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Re: contrib/non-free policy

On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

> > > If anyone really wants official CD's with contrib/non-free on it,
> > > create a "Deb Hat" organisation, and sell Official "Deb Hat" CD's
> > > with contrib/non-free on it, but for Debian to distribute
> > > non-free stuff officially is hypocritical indeed.
> > > 
> > 
> > So let's take them off the ftp mirrors too.  That's as official as a CD.
> 
> Well, there is a big difference though: by removing them from the
> ftp site, we are actually making it difficult to produce "non-free"
> debian CD's.

But whose going to make their on CD now, once the work is done for them
by using our images.

> 
> So, let's just say that /pub/debian/{rex,bo,hamm,stable,unstable}
> are the official Debian archives (or snapshots), and the rest
> (/pub/debian/{non-free,ontrib}) just is outside the Debian archive[1].

I agree with that, I actually think I stated something to the effect that
"contrib and non-free are not part of Debian, and should stay that way,
but we should still provide our users with easy access to them, as a
service."

> 
> There's nothing wrong in saying that, is there?
> 
> And yes, we could say that of the official CD's too, but by marking
> it as "official"  we actually make a statement about the hole CD.
> By just merely having stuff on the ftp archives, we don't make
> any statement.
> 
So, why not create a companion CD image for the CD companies to use, but
not have the name "official" on it.  Let them charge a dollar or 2 extra
for it, and have it as a package deal.  "Get the 2 CD Official Debian set,
plus their contrib section on CD for $5-6 dollers."

Shaya


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