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Re: There are _TWO_ discussions here

> Alex Yukhimets <aqy6633@acf5.nyu.edu> writes:
> 
> > Namely, will the DFSG-compliant contrib be included into the
> > Official CD?
> 
> Bruce has not explicitly said that, but I expect he will.  The whole
> basis for the contrib removal was because that software was not
> DFSG-free.

Well, unfortunately this is only your opinion, Guy. I'd really like to
hear that from Bruce himself.

> 
> > Will it be considered as part of the Debian? 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > I bet that someone will soon figure out that this would mean having
> > Motif applications as a part of a Debian
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > (absolutely impossible thing,
> > having dependence on  standard _proprietary_ software- no way!!!
> 
> That's the point.  contrib is DFSG-free but not self-contained.  It
> depends for use or build on non-free, contrib, non-US, other
> proprietary software.
> 

Again, unfortunately, this is only your opinion. My impression is that
"talking" minority (as opposed to the silent majority) of the maintainers 
would not support it. (Joost?)

Alex Y. 



P.S.
> > And a side note for the free software activists. What was the reason for
> > XFree86-3.3 to have fonts gzipped instead of compressed? Accordind to
> > Mark Eichin - promotion of free software.
> 
> Yes, otherwise XFree86 would itself have to go into contrib because it
> requires compress in order to build.
> 
> > Those users who already payed for commercial servers will
> > have to pay more for an upgrade (or ungzip the fonts, but for someone that
> > migh not be an option).
> 
> They can gunzip and compress the fonts.
> 

Yes, for you and me that would mean spending < 5 minutes to write a script
and 30(?) minutes to run it. Inexperienced user have the only option -
upgrade. Why we couldn't do that ourselves (XFree86 people, whoever) and
place compressed fonts packages into contrib? That would mean real support
for the users using non-free software (as stated in our Social Contract).

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