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Re: slowing down point releases



Bruce Perens wrote:

>One of the CD manufacturers called me this morning to ask about the
>expected frequency of point releases.

IMHO, we should make a point release whenever a fatal flaw is discovered
in Debian.

"Fatal flaw" is open to definition, of course.  I would suggest two reasons
why we would make something like that:

a) Fatal security flaws of the "make root fast" type, which are widely
   known (bugtraq, linux-security, ...).

b) Fatal installation errors which are likely to cause major headaches
   for many systems.

c) Errors which cause major problems in major applications (i.e. if
   TeX was unable to print, or if networking didn't work at all).

For anything else, I'd be wary to push an upgrade.  Security flaws are
likely to be the most frequent cause, anyway.

>He would like to have a product
>that is not obsoleted before it gets to store shelves.

He does have a point, which we can acommodate as far as possible by
restricting ourselves to making a point release only when it's necessary.

However, it might be wise to point out to him that his customers may
not actually need an upgrade if it's done because of a security flaw.
A typical multi-user system will probably have access to the latest
updates on the Internet, and somebody who runs the system with only
trusted users (e.g. a private machine) won't be affected by a typical
security hole.

I don't see a large conflict here.
-- 
Thomas Koenig, Thomas.Koenig@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig25@dkauni2.bitnet.
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double
logarithmic diagram.


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