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Re: next approach: new non-free/contrib policy



dwarf@polaris.net (Dale Scheetz)  wrote on 29.07.97 in <Pine.LNX.3.96.970729112232.738K-100000@dwarf.polaris.net>:

> On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Mark Baker wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> >
> > > Nothing in what I said either explicitly or implicitly declared the
> > > above statement to have any relevance. Gene splicers don't make up the
> > > "whole world" either, but software that can't be used by Gene splicers
> > > is not considered to be Free Software
> >
> > Yes it would. If the national gene splicers association ruled that it's
> > members weren't allowed to use some program, it doesn't stop the program
> > being free software. Only if the author of the software doesn't allow gene
> > splicers to use it is it non-free.
> >
> > Similarly, if the US government ruled that it's citizens weren't allowed
> > to use some program, how does that stop the program being free? The author
> > is very happy for Americans to use it.
> >
> I see your point. However, the "National Gene Splicers Association" is not
> the empowering body for copyright law, while the US Government is. (Also

That's very irrelevant. Those bodies can presumably both make binding  
rules for their respective members/population; OTOH, the whole concept of  
the author granting licenses is not based on any national idea, but on the  
international Berne Convention (and that one's fairly specific, you may  
want to read it sometime).

> please don't confuse the US population with the US Government, as some in
> this discussion have been tempted to do. We, the people of the United
> States, are currently living under the yoke of an oppressive government.
> The fact that we live in a police state governed by the rich and powerful
> should not be held against me or others who are unwitting/unwilling
> participants.) {sorry for the soap box}

Just a friendly tip: if you want to avoid non-US-citizens going ROTFL (or  
getting mad at you), don't claim that the US has an oppressive government.  
Look around the world what oppressive governments really are like. (If you  
want to discuss that, I'd suggest switching to private mail.) You're  
insulting people who really live in police states. (And that's not me,  
either.)


MfG Kai


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