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Re: Can I interest anyone in RPM?

dark@xs4all.nl (Richard Braakman) writes:

> I can only speak for myself:
> 
> I am a Debian developer because I fell in love with the packaging system
> as soon as I saw it.  Not the implementation, not the presentation, but
> the vision behind it.  To design a complete distribution that can be
> upgraded piece-by-piece across several releases, where every package
> knows its place, where every component does the right thing without
> being told -- that is a tremendously ambitious project, and perhaps
> you no longer see that when you have been part of it for so long.
> Here, I saw, was a group of people who aimed as high as they could.

This is  a very good point, and I kick myself for missing it.

To upgrade a RedHat system, generally you reformat the disk and
reinstall from scratch.  The "upgrade" options almost never work.
And, they always require rebooting from a floppy.

By contrast, it is possible to even upgrade Debian 1.2 to 1.3 without
a reboot.  Downtime is minimized, and there is no costly reformat.
Upgrades work *very*, *very* nicely with Debian.  Better than ANY
other OS I have ever used.  I a firmly believe that the package
manager is what is behind that.  For instance, without *any* extra
effort, most packages I maintain are able to upgrade themselves --
automatically.  This is a *tremendous* benefit.


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