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Re: Debian + KDE disk

Manoj,

I am having some difficulty understanding the real problem here:

Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@datasync.com> writes:

> Christoph> Life is not that black and white as you paint it to
> Christoph> be. Often you have to go along with something that is not
> Christoph> so desirable in order to attain a higher goal.
> 
> 	Yes, but one never sacrifices that higher goal. Our compromise
>  is the non-free section. We have it there because we have to; we do
>  not have to approve of it or promote it, we merely condone the
>  section. 

So what's the problem with putting KDE into contrib and Qt into
non-free?  This means that we are not encouraging its use but our
users still get a nice desktop environment if we want it.  After all,
we want Debian to be functional.

> 	Fine. Red Hat and Caldera take care of that for us. There is
>  no need for Debian to go that route. There *is* a difference between
>  Debian and our commercial siblings. This is one.

What is the reason that we cannot stick this stuff into non-free and
still provide it to the users that way?

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