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Re: Debian needs you

aqy6633@acf5.nyu.edu (Alex Yukhimets)  wrote on 02.11.97 in <m0xS0xz-00045lC@localhost>:

> > aqy6633@acf5.nyu.edu (Alex Yukhimets)  wrote on 01.11.97 in
> > <m0xRohP-00045lC@localhost>:
> >
> > > Surely we must have the criteria for the software being eligible to be
> > > included into the main distribution. And let's call those criteria DFSG.
> > > But let's understand that DFSG is not a bible. DFSG serves some goals,
> > > and the means of attaining these goals may and should change as time
> > > goes by.
> >
> > Here's a fundamental difference, I think. A large part of the DFSG, IMO,
> > doesn't _serve_ goals, it _describes_ those goals.
>
> Yes, this is fundamental diffrence. If a document states both goals and
> methods to attain, they must be clearly separated. DFSG, IMHO only defines
> *mehods* for Debian being technically superior, highly available,
> maintainable, portable, open distribution. These are goals.

You have a very strange interpretation of the DFSG then. I'm reading it  
completely different. The only valid points here are maintainability and  
openness; of course, those are parts of being free, and freeness is what  
the DFSG is all about. To me, that seems very obvious.

The DFSG is _not_ a means to get a high-quality distribution. It so  
happens that I believe this will be a side-effect of following the DFSG,  
but it's not the reason for the DFSG - that reason is that the goals in  
the DFSG are themselves valuable.

> Criterium to put into main distribution only software
> with non-discriminating licenses *serves* the goal to be highly available.

For some definition of "highly available" that is obviously different from  
mine.

> P.S. In your anaother post you mentioned that this list is in AOL mode.

Huh?! I most certainly did not.

> Would you dare to explain that? I never used AOL and don't know what that
> means.

Nor have I. It's usually used as a description for "me too", a Usenet  
phenomenon that really exploded after aol got on the net.


MfG Kai


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