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Re: Meaning of `source code'



csmall@scooter.o.i.net wrote:
> 
> > Commercial companies that wants to _stole_ developers devoted to
> > Free Software are our enemy.
> 
> I know this is an easy trap, because a few weeks ago I was looking
> for a X library to write some programs.  I was initially going to
> use Qt as it seemed "free enough".  It was only some "free software
> evangilism" by a friend and some of the mails here that made me
> change my mind.

Just in time, then.
But if you had spent months in writing for QT, you'll be far less
receptive on your friend's mails and more hurted by "evangilism".
That's what's happening.


> 
> > Thus we should seriously start working on a free-qt project.
> Why not just port any GPL'ed programs that use Qt over to use
> lesstif or gtk? 

But this would raise a worse reaction from the developers (that are
still thinking that their work is free and qt is "free enough").
Their reaction would be against us. Again, Trolltech would have the
effect of putting free sw developers against each other.

I don't like QT, but I think we must stop this by building a free clone
of QT. Maybe simply starting a serious work on this, just to let
Trolltech scare of the possibility of the result (we could lie and tell
that the main effort is a free "windows" version :-).
As someone suggested, they could remove windows code from the sources,
or put a "free" license stronger in freedom than LGPL (like GPL, whose
use on libraries obliges programs linked to be GPL: this would be even
better for their commerce, because authors that wants to wipe GPL from
their products should get a commercial license from them).


fabrizio
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