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Re: Meaning of `source code'



> Commercial companies that wants to _stole_ developers devoted to Free
> Software are our enemy.
They (the developers) are obviously not *that* devoted to Free Software
then.  But I can also see from their point of view.  Qt seems a pretty
good library, but if you don't fully understand the GPL (and it is easy
not to fully understand, ie I didn't know about this free compiler 
requirement) you could say, well, my program I wrote using Qt is free.

I know this is an easy trap, because a few weeks ago I was looking for a
X library to write some programs.  I was initially going to use Qt as it
seemed "free enough".  It was only some "free software evangilism" by
a friend and some of the mails here that made me change my mind.

> Thus, instead of starting endless (and unusefull) discussion about QT
> linked programs, we should seriously start working on a free-qt project.
> Even if we don't like it, just because we need all those developers that
> they are stoling.
Why not just port any GPL'ed programs that use Qt over to use lesstif or 
gtk? Gtk is pretty good though it is still early days, especially with their
documentation. I have a feeling that Debian may, in the future, adopt GNOME
(Gtk=Qt, GNOME=KDE roughly) as the main window-manager/enviroment/whatever
so having programs using the same library would be a good idea.

  - Craig


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