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Re: [Fwd: is kde enough free?]

James A. Treacy wrote:
> > It should be noted that the KDE developers I spoke with regarded this
> > as a deliberate slight by Debian, despite the fact that NOT having
> > the licenses in place is quite clearly a breach of Troll's
> > licensing conditions (they have to be GPL, and no license != GPL).
> > 
> Even if KDE's dependence on qt requires it to be GPLed, does not mean that
> the authors released it using the GPL. The FSF, with all the care
> it takes, has had at least one case where they had to yank code out
> because they didn't have the legal right to use it. Debian has gotten
> to the size that we need to be careful to dot our i's and cross our
> t's or we could find ourselves on the wrong side of a lawsuit.
> You may not agree with this policy, but it is the right way to do
> things.

Sorry, I must not have been clear. This was the point I was trying to
make - qt mean you must be *explicit* in your GPL or else. For most packages,
if the author forgets, only the author would prosecute anyway. 

(The more I think about qt's license, the more I think 'trapware' is an
appropriate name).

> 
> > There appears to be a lot of conspiracy theories from some KDE folks
> > about both Debian and Redhat.
> > 
> I haven't decided whether conspiracy theorists are ignorant or just plain
> stupid. (You know things are out of control when you almost don't include
> a line like the previous because you are afraid someone will interpret it
> as a slight against themselves and add fuel to the fire. We'll see.)

Actually, I think they are chronically disappointed. For many KDE
developers, it must be frustrating to work on something you are proud
of, and have people say "nice, but I can't use it - I don't like the
license problems". For many people, licenses just aren't an issue --
the only problems are technical problems. So when others tell you that
the license is a problem, you don't believe them and start looking
for OTHER reasons. Like CONSPIRACIES.

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       Tyson Dowd           # 
                            #         Linux versus Windows is a 
     trd@cs.mu.oz.au        #            Win lose situation.
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