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Re: "purity" package

At 08:00 PM 11/29/97 +0100, you wrote:
>I'm concerned about a certain hypocritical tinge (so typical for the
>US American culture BTW) in regard to this discussion.  Why is
>everybody becoming so worried when there is some sex involved when on
>the other hand nobody even bothers about explicitly cruel and violent
>'games' like "doom" or "quake" distributed with (besides all other
>distributions) Debian ?

The reason is, because even though violence is worse, we have been
desensitized to it.  It's basically part of everyday accepted life, which if
taking a step back and viewing society, is sick.  However, this is they way
life is now, so we accept it.  Also, when 99.9% of the people who play
quake, they realize it's all fake and fantasy.  However, when it comes to
sexual related materials, I am sure the number drops dramatically.  Just
look at the internet.  How many people have had affairs because of someone
they have met "chatting" to how many peopl who have conspired to kill
someone or the like.  

>
>Sex is the most healthiest and recreational thing in the world happily
>loved by every single being on this earth and brutal violence is the
>most feared/hated thing on this very same planet.  So why is nobody
>speaking up against the inclusion of "doom" and "quake"?  

Because while real sex is loved and real violence hated, the opposite can be
said for the "fake" things.  why? because of the desensitivity issue I
talked about above.

Because even though it is important, it's not appropriate for certain
segmants of society, mostly children (and I would include myself in that
group at this point.)  Up to this point in my life, I haven't gone on a
date, not because I don't like girls, or never met one I liked a lot, but
because I feel at this point in my life, it's not appropriate.  When I start
to date, it will be to look for a wife.  These are my values, I really have
no wish to place my value system on others, but people should realize that
even though we have a "hypocritical" set of values, their's a reason for them.  

>
>If it isn't about perversities i really don't mind having a package
>dealing with sex within Debian.  IMHO it is no good idea to make this
>distribution conform to US centric hypocritical values if on the other
>hand cruel 'games' like "quake" and "doom" are accepted for inclusion.
>

In my view, 2 wrongs don't make a right.  So we include violence, is that a
reason to include sex.  No.  Why do we include violence? because this fake
form of violence is accepted in society.  Is that a good reason, probably
not.  Do I enjoy playing quake.  yes.  Do I feel it's wrong to feel that
way? good question. :).

Shaya


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