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Re: not a first amendment question

At 07:37 PM 11/30/97 +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote:
>olly@lfix.co.uk (Oliver Elphick)  wrote on 30.11.97 in
<199711301605.QAA09460@linda.lfix.co.uk>:
>
>> Kai Henningsen wrote:
>>   >A very different matter, OTOH, is just talking about it. I'm pretty far
>>   >from convinced that we can safely draw the line before that.
>>   >
>>   >Incidentally, the bible is quite clearly on the wrong side of both my and
>>   >your ideas about that line - it does promote incest, for example.
>>
>> Are you crazy or what?
>
>Well, I think I got slightly confused there wrt which sex offenses - it  
>was offering one's own virginal daughters for rape, not incest, what I was  
>thinking about (Lot). Maybe I confused it with the idea that when you  
>sleep with your brother's widow, you shouldn't pull out before the climax  
>(Onan).

It's amazing how scenes can be misinterpreted!  I never remeber learning
that the scene with Lot was a good thing.  The main thing that I remember
learning from it, is that good things can happen out of even the worsts
situations.  i.e. the Davidic line, ended up decending from one of those
childs (Moab) that was born (through Ruth...)  Also by Onan, if you know
your bible, it's a commandment for a brother to marry his wife's widow if
she didn't have any children with her husband, or you can do another act
called Chalitza, but that was considered an insult.  Nowadays, Chalitza is
the prefered method to be done.

>>
>> I don't know if some of you are going out of your way to try to offend
>> Christians.  You are succeeding.
>
>Not at all. Maybe you should really _read_ the Bible sometime. If it was  
>any other book, Christians would probably be trying to burn stuff like  
>that.
>
>It's amazing how many Christians don't know what's in there. It gets  
>pretty explicit at times.

I have read it, and I don't find much wrong with it.  Then again, I'm not a
christian. I'd agree, however, that their are certain parts which aren't
appropriate to teach young children, but then again a lot of Shakespere
isn't appropriate for young children either.  

Shaya


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