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Re: No education (was purity)



Ioannis Tambouras:
> If you think that ethics is a subject that we "intuitively know", I
> dare say you are sadly mistaken.

I think that this is a _very_ dangerous line.  It is very important
for the continued and further well-being and civilisation of our
society that invididuals continue to make, and make more often,
personal decisions about ethics, morality, etc.

I've just been reading `Obedience to Authority', Milgram's book about
the results of the `electric shock' experiments in the 60's [1].  In
the light of that book I find this `you do not understand ethics and
are not qualified to judge' theory very worrying.

Ian.

[1] In Milgram's psychological experiments three people took part: a
`learner', a `teacher', and an `experimenter'.  The experiment was
claimed to be one on the effect of punishment on human memory.  The
`experimenter' and `learner' were really Milgram's stooges, and the
`teacher' was the real experimental subject, recruited through adverts
in newspapers, who was told by the `experimenter' to administer
electric shocks to the `learner' (who was sat in a kind of electric
chair).

In most variations on the experiment a majority of subjects continued
(on command from the `experimenter') to `shock' the `learner' to the
end of the scale on the `shock generator', even past the point where
the `learner' had cried out to be released, given agonised screams,
and stopped responding at all.


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