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Re: Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen



> >> > As for the "one year, some say it was two", why did you waste the time for
> >> > a poll, if you go and decide yourself?
> >> Obviously, I was hoping that the process would produce a good logo.
> >> I gave it lots of time. It didn't. I acted.
> >Still, why didn't you state which logos would be OBJECTIVELY bad months
> >ago, so that the logo designers would've had time to improve their logos
> >to fit your rules...?
> They did, I believe sometime around last winter, if my memory serves me
> correctly.

Still, noone saw reason to remove unacceptable logos in close to a year?

That sounds rather strange, doesn't it?


> >Also - why didn't the site taking the vote ever put up a copy of the exact
> >list of requirements for a logo. If there isn't any document linked from
> >there, I'd also assume that this is a "free for all" issue.
> probably a mistake.  mistakes happen.

And a mistake is enough justification to ignore a vote, that went for over
a year?


> >> If it's not on the www list of mailing lists, it should be.
> >Nice to state that now, that it's too late. Well, I couldn't find it on
> >the web, and also the verisim search engine on debian.org couldn't find
> >it.
> I've always been able to find out what lists their are by asking pete for a
> list of them, and then subscribing to the ones I wanted to be subscribed too.

Nice idea, which Pete are you talking about? I am not in the habit of
bugging people for more info, if there is info available on the web. And
the web had info about Debian mailing-lists. So what should even have
given me the idea of asking for the existence a publicity mailing list?
Don't get me wrong, I do not want to say your approaching Pete was wrong,
I just want to point out, that this approach is not neccessarily the
normal approach that anyone would take.
For me, it would've been asking Bruce, as I don't know any other package
maintainers personally, and I don't think that Bruce in his role of
Project Leader wouldn't have liked questions like "Are there any further
mailing lists I should know of?".
I don't think that he or anyone else in the same position would've liked
it if every now and then a maintainer comes up with such a question.
  Especially bearing in mind the workload, that Bruce already had as
project leader, that is now going to be Ian's workload.
  Even though I heavily criticised Bruce, and as much as I might
criticise Ian, I really DO respect all the work, that Bruce did, and that
Ian is going to do. But - having a project leader, shouldn't mean,
electing somebody to move him out of criticism for his decisions.



  Benedikt


Windows 95: n.
    32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
    operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor,  written
         by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.


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