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Re: Withdrawing (temporarily) from the debian project

On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, David Welton wrote:

> > I think a paring down of the distribution in some form might be
> > beneficial.  Maybe something along the lines of really putting
> > tightening down on the essential distribution, and opening up the less
> > important packages to more frequent upgrades. Even though this is a
> > particularly difficult transition to libc6, Debian certainly isn't
> > going to be getting smaller or less unwieldy in the near future.  The
> > long waits between releases also bother me - as I think it takes us
> > away from the bazaar model of development, which is one of our core
> > strengths.  I think something needs to be done so that the 'stable'
> > releases can be more easily managed - making it easier to update.
> 
> i dont agree that the distribution needs to be pared down (we do need
> better UI on our package management tools - dselecting through 1600+
> packages when installing a new system is very tedious), but there is truth
> in what you and others have said about the release schedules. 

I meant something more along the lines of paring down the 'core'
distribution, to something more manageable, along the lines of what redhat
has.  Packages like the ones I currently maintain aren't really taht
important, and a more bazaar style of frequent updates would probably
beneficial in some ways.

> anyway, the point of all this is that debian has become temporarily more
> 'cathedral'-like due to the nature of the current work in progress. once
> that's out of the way, we'll be back to the bazaar again...bigger and
> better than ever. 

You make a prety convincing argument..  Given your experience with the
project, I'll believe you - let's get on with coding!  Specifically our
bo-unstable/updates/current distribution - except for some renaming and
policy details I have several packages ready to upload.  All of mine plus
patch, lftp, and some of the gkt and gimp stuff (altough there are some
problems with this...).

Bye:-)

David Welton   
davidw@efn.org  davidw@freenet.hut.fi  http://www.efn.org/~davidw
Se quest'email e` in Italiano, mi dispiace per gli errori:-) FORZA PANTANI!
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