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Re: Withdrawing (temporarily) from the debian project

On Tue, Dec 02, 1997 at 02:11:04PM +0200, Shaya Potter wrote:
> >Well, the reasons are:
> >	o Continuous flaming on the lists.
> >	o Recent things wrt the leadership role.
> >	o Not having fun anymore.


I think, this is the result of bad management (blame it on the bazaar model?).
Though Bruce is obviously a charismatic leader and in all cases I 
observed him moving fast to steer us out of trouble, I am afraid to admit 
that he probably did not bring all the right skills for the job. The 
maintainers did not help him either.

  Why I say all this? Because I have worked with managers (in a company
that I co-founded with 8 others, www.greece.org) who produced good results.
Of course, they were not programmers. The were retired generals! 
These people are capable to have everything working like the clock, in three 
weeks they can organize (and supervise) everything down to the last detail 
and all 1,000 unpaid volunteers will stay happy. It is matter of skills. 
Bruce was the best we got, now probably we lost him, and until we
find someone with similar skills then I would suspect nothing will 
change. Ian Jackson has his turn and will make a lot of changes, lets us 
wait for the results. 



>>I think some the reasons for all the problems we're having is that:
>>	o We have too many packages, most of them unmaintained.
>>	o We are too many developpers.


 Again, this speaks of bad management (blame it on the bazaar model?)
I mean, why is it so important that our system stay democratic if most
of us are not very happy. Last year, I proposed the creation of departments
were the department leader has absolute powers over his little section. Of 
course, the leader will be listening (and respond) to everyones opinion; 
it is in his interest to keep everyone in his department happy and working.



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