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| schestowitz | "Due to abuse, please take everything you read about me on USENET with a barrel of salt. My profile had been rated 4/5 for years until Microsoft zealots gamed the system with 1500+ ratings (of 1 out of 5) in just 2 days. And their libelous smear campaign continues." | Apr 01 07:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=xFvp2hoAAAAb4mOWpyzVaW0aq-bp9NGnjj6y1UsWUZHxqbrtGgkPow | Apr 01 07:59 |
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| schestowitz | PR puppet: | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > First time contacting you, apologize for the short notice, but I | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > thought this might be something BN readers would be interested in. | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > News coming from GroundWork Open Source today: | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > - announcing a new GroundWork/Ubuntu virtual appliance for IT | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > monitoring, includes being able to purchase Canonical support | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > - we can't give specifics, but GroundWork will also be making | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > announcement around monitoring and private clouds next week with | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > Eucalyptus. Timing and details pending, we'll follow up with more | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > details when we have them. | Apr 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | RMS: | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > Based on my correspondence with you, I have just typed up an | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > introduction at: | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/EDGI | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > It does the job. I suggest two ways to improve it: | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > Tighten up the first few sentences of the text, | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > and add a couple of sentences giving a basic description | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > of the methods EDGI uses. | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > Then it needs to be easy to find. Perhaps add a menu | Apr 01 21:53 |
| schestowitz | > listing major patterns and phenomena. | Apr 01 21:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:54 |
| schestowitz | > It would be good to add a link on the words "internal name" to an | Apr 01 21:54 |
| schestowitz | > article that demonstrates this is Microsoft's internal name for it. | Apr 01 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the kind suggestion. I plan to redo/reorganise the Wiki soon. It's hard to organise about 100,000 references and about 10,000, but many people use Google search to find what they are looking for (which I know isn't the ideal route because of dependence on a third party). | Apr 01 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2010/04/01/steve-jobsapple-shareholders/ | Apr 02 09:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/user/Cristofer7#p/u/66/A6pZHALzezU | Apr 03 13:02 |
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| oiaohm | Question schestowitz are you going to register the techrights domain. | Apr 05 12:25 |
| MinceR | he seems to have .org, unsure about .com | Apr 05 12:27 |
| oiaohm | Ok I tried com first. | Apr 05 12:32 |
| oiaohm | org is cheeper to register | Apr 05 12:32 |
| schestowitz | I think it's the same with most regitrars | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, it's not a for-profit, so... | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > Keith Curtis is a former Microsoft employee who left Microsoft, and | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > has embraced Free and Open Source Software. He even as far as making | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > his book creative commons. So I am attaching a copy of it for you. | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > Sorry it is so large. | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > Important things to notice: | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > 1) Mono is promoted | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > 2) Says Ubuntu should not even exist. | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | > 3) Strong business-type language and logic is used throughout the book. | Apr 05 13:17 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmm.. I lost some USENET message :-( | Apr 05 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Apr 05 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > On the good news front, I've re-platformed, all drives up, RAID arrays sorted, most services running okay. I still have a networking problem that I've not got to the bottom of, but I'm hoping we'll be up and running by Weds latest, hopefully earlier. | Apr 05 13:18 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: here .org.au for a non for profit can be registered for a 1 off charge. | Apr 05 13:19 |
| oiaohm | But com.au has to pay yearly fees. | Apr 05 13:19 |
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| schestowitz | > Regarding takeovers, | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > http://boycottnovell.com/2010/04/03/swinging-novell-in-gnome/ | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > Novell (via Suse) is floating one of their employees as a candidate for | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > the OOo Community Council to head Product Development. | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=26778 | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > The nominator used a Suse address, suse being still centered around | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > Novell. Here's what Charles H. Schulz had to say in October 2008 on the | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > topic of the Novell fork of OOo | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071008124053220 | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > You have on your site what Simon Phipps wrote about Novell's hostile fork. | Apr 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | > It's not a position up for public voting, nor by the Native Language | Apr 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | > groups, who are up on Novell. | Apr 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Nice rant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1czXvHSjDac | Apr 05 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | [21:40] <davidgerard> techrights.org - nice name! | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:40] <schestowitz> Thanks | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:40] <davidgerard> you need to register techrights.com RIGHT NOW before the trolls get it | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:40] <schestowitz> I have.org | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:40] <davidgerard> i see .net is gone | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:40] <davidgerard> really, if you don't do it in the next 5 mins a troll will | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <davidgerard> it was the first thing i thought of | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <schestowitz> .com? | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <davidgerard> yep | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <schestowitz> can they? | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <davidgerard> i made sure i grabbed all three variants on newstechnica, for isntance | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <davidgerard> of course they can | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <davidgerard> any one can | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <davidgerard> i could | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <schestowitz> ok | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <davidgerard> it's cheap, it's easy :-) | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <schestowitz> 35 quid | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <davidgerard> newstechnica, i have .com (the one i actually use) | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:42] <davidgerard> http://www.123-reg.co.uk/order?domain=www.techrights.com&search=search&transfer=transfer&ajax_enabled=true | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:42] <davidgerard> £20 for 2 yrs from 123-reg.com (pipex) | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:42] <davidgerard> they're the registrar i tend to use | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:42] <davidgerard> i also have .org, .net and .co.uk | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:43] <schestowitz> ok,I'll get one now | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:43] <davidgerard> good idea :-) | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:43] <davidgerard> it's the sort of things the trolls would crow about, and it's cheap | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:44] <davidgerard> i'll join the channel now ;-) | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:44] <davidgerard> still same place? | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:45] <schestowitz> Just done that | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:45] <schestowitz> mailed the hoster | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:45] <schestowitz> We'll do 301 redirects soon | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz |  | Apr 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:46] <davidgerard> :-D | Apr 05 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | >> Can I pretend to have found that by accident? | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > I'd prefer not. But, the themes brought up by it can and should be | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > addressed. In particular, conflict of interest. There was a sun | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > staffer that blogged about it somewhere. | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > Simon Phpps will head OSI and was talking about changing the | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > organizational structure. Any proposed changes need to take into | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > account ways to prevent gaming the system. That is related IMHO as | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > Novell/MS is trying to game the OOo CC as it had ISO, NIST, Yahoo BOD, | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > etc. The baseline for OSI should be the existing evaluation of | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > licensing as it does now, then on top of that should be how well they | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > 'walk the walk' | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > The M$ seminar that I ended up at the other week is postponing putting | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > the video / audio online. That would have some nasty stuff you could | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > work with. They've promised the end of the monthg (after the EU patent | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > thing is finished) | Apr 06 14:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=monsanto+schestowitz&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Apr 06 17:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Hi Brian, | Apr 06 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for a wonderful show. I have listened to ~100 shows and enjoy them. | Apr 06 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Minor point as a medical biophysicist: do not confuse criticism of GMO for health reasons and reasons which are tied to use of the patent system to monopolise seed supplies. | Apr 06 17:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 06 17:28 |
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| scientes | possible to sed fewa to scientes on the web site? | Apr 07 00:42 |
| scientes | the articles | Apr 07 00:42 |
| scientes | i would like to have fewer identities | Apr 07 00:42 |
| schestowitz | I can't sed the DB, but static files might have issues | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz | URLs with "Fewa" | Apr 07 00:51 |
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| schestowitz | > One of the tactics used in the OOo attack is the use of a proxy, in this | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > case Novell. | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > On the interpersonal level, an old friend or acquaintance of many in the | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > pool which will make the decision is being used. That tactic is a | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > variant of one outline in several Comes v M$ documents: agree that M$ | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > boosters are bastards and that M$ sucks, but claim an exception for this | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > one particular individual. They do this everywhere. The chumps that | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > get fooled go along and let the Microsofter do as they please, because | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > that particular one is special. | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > The "This one is special" tactic can be brought up. Maybe someone will | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > then spot that it is being used in OOo. | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | This tactic is used a lot on Asay, who has "special" friends from Microsoft. | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, Asay is one of the examples. I recall when PJ wrote that she | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > 'likes' Asay. It kind of struck me as incongruous, for if one looks at | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > his actions, then he's not up to much good. | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > Anecdote: I was hired to set up a 'linux lab' and the Microsofters on | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > staff where doing everything to block it, including not opening the | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > network for outgoing access. They agreed to do it, but just | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > stonewalled. The dept head (first of three in three years, high turn | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > over) kept at them for a while. Finally, when there appeared to be no | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > more possible excuses for delay, the main Softer wanted to get together | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > over a beer for a 'friendly chat' The dept head really pressed this, so | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > I agreed on the condition that we set the date after they turn on the | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > network. We went round and round a bit but I never had to have beer | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > with that shit Softer. | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > That fellow was a smiling, soft spoken snake who only showed up when he | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > was fishing for information about what he could interfere with. He was | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > like mortally afraid to even look at non-MS applications and systems. I | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > once got him to offer to send two of his staff for a demo, but they | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > never showed. He absolutely refused to let them go alone. Once when I | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > had installed a lot of machines, as was required by the written job | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > description, a group of three came to reinfect the machines with windows | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > and looked absolutely frightened and huddled together at the back of the | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > room. | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, the "but this Microsofter is an exception" tactic needs some | Apr 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | > daylight since it is in use at Canonical and at OOo. | Apr 07 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | Someone is sensitive | Apr 07 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Someone is sensitive | Apr 07 20:50 |
| schestowitz | [20:41] <Omar87> Thanks for not doing anything to them, after all the times I've defended you against the trolls. | Apr 07 20:50 |
| schestowitz | [20:42] <Omar87> really, thanks a lot. | Apr 07 20:50 |
| schestowitz | [20:42] <schestowitz> no problem | Apr 07 20:50 |
| schestowitz | [20:42] <schestowitz> I can't censor | Apr 07 20:50 |
| schestowitz | [20:42] <schestowitz> It would b a threat to us | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:43] <Omar87> You can at least tell them to respect themselves. | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:43] <Omar87> You can at least tell them to stop their attitude. | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:43] <Omar87> You can at least tell them stop being impolite to me. | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:44] <Omar87> Thanks a lot for not doing any of that Roy. | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:44] <Omar87> Thank you very much. | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:45] <Omar87> That's all you could come up with? | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:46] <schestowitz> I don't want to ruffle many feathers. Just ignore those whom you dislike, it's easier | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz |  | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:46] <Omar87> schestowitz, that's correct. | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:46] <Omar87> schestowitz, arguing with them is a waste of time anyway. | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:46] <Omar87> Thanks. :) | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:47] <schestowitz> no problem | Apr 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Be easy on him... | Apr 07 20:51 |
| MinceR | wow, he expects his religious "truths" to be enforced? | Apr 07 20:51 |
| MinceR | what a zealot. | Apr 07 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I know | Apr 07 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Silencing daylight | Apr 07 21:11 |
| scientes | sometimes its fun to argue | Apr 07 21:13 |
| scientes | because they work off scripts | Apr 07 21:13 |
| scientes | I had a few good arguments with _Mutex | Apr 07 21:13 |
| MinceR | i don't find it fun for long when my opponent doesn't use rational arguments at all | Apr 07 21:14 |
| MinceR | no facts, no proof, nothing | Apr 07 21:14 |
| MinceR | just blind faith and insults | Apr 07 21:14 |
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| scientes | well yeah some are like that | Apr 07 21:17 |
| scientes | like DaemonFC :P | Apr 07 21:17 |
| schestowitz | They are surrounded by the same thoughts | Apr 07 21:33 |
| schestowitz | It's echo chamber | Apr 07 21:33 |
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| scientes | arggg | Apr 08 01:40 |
| scientes | lots of ruby gems arnt working on armel | Apr 08 01:40 |
| scientes | failing to build | Apr 08 01:40 |
| schestowitz | ruby?? | Apr 08 02:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro&feature=related | Apr 08 12:22 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know that story... | Apr 08 12:22 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Walt_Disney_and_Dr._Wernher_von_Braun_-_GPN-2000-000060.jpg | Apr 08 12:24 |
| schestowitz | "Von Braun was among those scientists for whom the U.S. Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency created false employment histories and expunged Nazi Party memberships and regime affiliations from from the public record. Once “bleached” of their Nazism, the US Government granted the scientists security clearance to work in the United States." | Apr 08 12:24 |
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| schestowitz | >> Are you Eric Weiner or Kenyon Zahner? | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you for your interest in my case. | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > I am Kenyon Zahner. I just created this email account with a pseudonym - | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > Eric Weiner. | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > I am somewhat concerned about legal retaliation from Apple. We will see. | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | Can I publish your case? | Apr 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | Matt Asay still defending iPad in a new blog post http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-20001943-16.html | Apr 08 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Time to start exposing Apple | Apr 08 18:58 |
| schestowitz | IMHO | Apr 08 18:58 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 08 19:01 |
| schestowitz | It also rids me from labels like "anti-Microsoft" | Apr 08 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Former Apple employees have a scoop for us... | Apr 08 19:06 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure of that :> | Apr 08 19:06 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll just stick "anti-Apple" beside "anti-Microsoft" | Apr 08 19:07 |
| MinceR | crApple cultists seem to be getting less secretive about their admiration toward m$ | Apr 08 19:07 |
| MinceR | perhaps in part to crApple's newfound rivalry with google | Apr 08 19:07 |
| MinceR | s/to/due &/ | Apr 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | My issue is non-Free s/w | Apr 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | and swpats | Apr 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | > Sure. Just keep me informed about where you post or publish just so I | Apr 08 19:52 |
| schestowitz | > have some idea what is going on (or not). | Apr 08 19:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 19:52 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks | Apr 08 19:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 19:52 |
| schestowitz | > Kenyon | Apr 08 19:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you like to mention it on your site, yet no need to make a big fuss for now, | Apr 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | as we want to start solid small for our current release and grow organically with n2. | Apr 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | If you do post a news item, please let me know! | Apr 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Best Greetings, Clemens. | Apr 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu without the mono and with kde, MinceR | Apr 08 22:12 |
| MinceR | hm? | Apr 08 22:25 |
| MinceR | kubuntu? :> | Apr 08 22:25 |
| schestowitz | nope | Apr 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | http://ur1.ca/u5s8 | Apr 08 22:58 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 08 22:59 |
| MinceR | based on mint, apparently | Apr 08 23:00 |
| MinceR | with or without package signature error messages? :> | Apr 08 23:01 |
| MinceR | (also, are you sure it has kde?) | Apr 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | See his explanation | Apr 09 00:03 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> hi | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> what software do you use to follow Twitter? | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> I want to get a copy of all my tweets | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> is it possible? | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> I have rumors that OIN recruited a guy from FSFE, Shane | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> can you confirm that? | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | * zoobab has quit (*.net *.split) | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> Read this one: | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-20001824-16.html?tag=newsBlogPromoArea.2 | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz_log> <zoobab> what software do you use to follow Twitter? | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz_log> I use RSS feeds | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz_log> <zoobab> I want to get a copy of all my tweets | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz_log> Bad luck | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz_log> <zoobab> I have rumors that OIN recruited a guy from FSFE, Shane | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz_log> <zoobab> can you confirm that? | Apr 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz_log> Interesting | Apr 09 01:07 |
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| schestowitz | > Hello Roy, | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > thanks for the new item! | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > If you like to do me a personal favor: | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > Please not directly mention my name, but make any announcement look more | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > general, | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > as I do have a non-related job to Netrunner and it might only get | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > unwanted attention here at work, | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > so I'd rather stay in the background personally. | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > Other than that thanks again for helping us out! | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | > Best Greetings, Clemens. | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | OOps. | Apr 09 15:48 |
| schestowitz | I was looking for GNU news, then this came up. http://www.swradioafrica.com/news080410/corrective-rape080410.htm | Apr 09 20:53 |
| schestowitz | wth? | Apr 09 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhD0MxacnIE&feature=related | Apr 09 23:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BpmeX6lwZc | Apr 09 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | >>From your web log: "I Am Not an Atheist" | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > May I offer that was a terrific article, but I have a little something to | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > add from life's experience. | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > What a man truly believes about the Unknown is below the surface of what | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > his every day brain can actualize. The truth surfaces only when a supreme | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > crisis arises, e.g. ...Your own death or that of a loved one is imminent. | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > In such situations do you ask the "Unknown" for a miracle or accept what | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > fate has dealt. | Apr 12 03:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 03:04 |
| schestowitz | > A true logician would probably endure without protest, but how we will react | Apr 12 03:04 |
| schestowitz | > is unknown except to the "Unknown." | Apr 12 03:04 |
| schestowitz | Yes, exactly. Sometimes it's nice to make "Unknowns" even if we only fool ourselves. | Apr 12 03:04 |
| MinceR | what an extremely verbose version of the "no atheists on a falling plane" bullshit. | Apr 12 06:39 |
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| schestowitz | > You touched a sensitive point: | Apr 12 16:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 16:37 |
| schestowitz | > http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/04/id-rather-discuss-patent-issues-than.html | Apr 12 16:37 |
| schestowitz | He posted this as an anonymous comment in Groklaw (damage control) and in my blog. I replied to him 2 hours ago: | Apr 12 16:37 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/04/11/florian-mueller-and-erika-mann/#comment-89494 | Apr 12 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Florian is considered a FOSS wunderkind | Apr 12 16:41 |
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| schestowitz | Florian Mueller April 12 at 1:25pm Report | Apr 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | I've been asked by someone why I don't answer your questions on Groklaw. So let me do it here. If I had an email address for the future, we could communicate directly. | Apr 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > Therein, you don't deny what I wrote < | Apr 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | I deny the causation you imply more or less clearly, beginning with the headline. | Apr 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > (instead you attack straw men, e.g. I didn't argue that you had not known Erika Mann beforehand). < | Apr 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | You didn't say so, but you took note of the mere fact that the LinkedIn contact was made the same week my blog started. As I explained, it was -- and that's really true -- just the IDG News article that quoted her which resulted in me contacting her on LinkedIn. | Apr 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > In fact, you dance around the issue just as TH danced around the question about its relationship with Microsoft (which was later made very obvious). < | Apr 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | All that I've seen as a statement from TH about that is that they work with a number of vendors. | Apr 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > Be sure to follow the links and see my explanation of why Microsoft funds CCIA and Black in a very special way; don't conveniently omit details, please. < | Apr 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | There was a settlement many years ago. After that settlement CCIA still supported the FFII in its efforts against software patents in Europe, such as by coorganizing a conference and through coordinated PR efforts. | Apr 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I believe my point about the likes of Google, Oracle, Red Hat, T-Mobile etc. is valid on its own. Even if Microsoft contributed purely theoretically 100% of CCIA's funding: those players won't lend their names for no reason. | Apr 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > So, Florian, are you in contact with TH < | Apr 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | We know each other. Actually that's clear from my LinkedIn contact list and what I said about it (the two contacts I added months before). | Apr 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > and CCIA? You sneakily fail to address this point. < | Apr 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Then you haven't read what I wrote in my blog. There's a clear and broad denial in it. If that one is any unclear, please let me know. | Apr 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | > Have you been in touch with Carina Oliveri? < | Apr 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I have recently added her on LinkedIn as well. Your source on my LinkedIn contact list mayb forgot to tell you ;-) | Apr 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | --- | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > Anatomy of a Microsoft Interference in Rival's Territory | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > One day I'll write a /hypothetical/ "Anatomy of a Microsoft Interference in Rival's Territory" scenario. IBM ain't happy about Microsoft's interference in ODF. The head of the ODF Allience mailed me some days ago also. They seem to know what Microsoft is up to, but they can't find the references in BN. Some of the recent writings from Weir also ought to remind people that IBM is not happy. | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > <private> | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > I've been active the last week on the Ubuntu forums and notice a little | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > guarding so far, both of mono and of other M$ services like Citrix. The | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > shill style is the same: attack and put words in the other's mouth. My | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > approach there is to try to avoid responding to off-topic posts. | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I get trolled by them every day. I ignore. Lund trolls me a lot too. | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > However, Shuttleworth will have to do something about the 'MS insiders' | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > as they are, as expected, using Ubuntu as a stepping board to get into | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > and destroy debian. I realize now that some of the trouble also comes | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > via FreeBSD, which IMHO their technical skills notwithstanding is | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > largely a bunch of clowns, asshats and MSFT wannabees. | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > </> | Apr 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Don't waste time on it. It means we're winning. | Apr 12 21:03 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Who is this Noack who is one of the Microsoft worshippers? I swear the | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > bastard is trolling the lists on purpose. | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > -------- Original Message -------- | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: [ux-discuss] MSO 2010 Approach (was: Re: [ux-discuss] Spec | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Review of "Search Toolbar") | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:29:56 +0200 | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > From: Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com> | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Reply-To: discuss@ux.openoffice.org | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > To: discuss@ux.openoffice.org | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > References: <1255216520.4470.72.camel@brummbrumm> | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > <OFC3D52DB7.DA1E7D82-ON4825764C.0029C3A3-4825764C.002A6EFC@cn.ibm.com> <527cdbcf0910121449r2a15092el6803086f434dd768@mail.gmail.com> | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > <OF2107C01D.DB203C9F-ON4825764E.000C4541-4825764E.000DEBDC@cn.ibm.com> | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > <4AD43F06.2020502@sun.com> | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Hi everyone, | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > I just want to add something which I find quite interesting... | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Am Dienstag, den 13.10.2009, 10:49 +0200 schrieb Christian Lippka - Sun | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Microsystems Gmbh - Hamburg: | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | >> I agree with others that they are used to the search bar at the bottom | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | >> from firefox. | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Today, I stumbled across an article of Microsoft Office 2010 and they | Apr 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > introduced something interesting. It is like they "mixed" the our | Apr 12 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > Navigator concept and the search pane of Adobe Acrobat. | Apr 12 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > As far as I could see, they placed a "Navigation Pane" at the left side | Apr 12 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > of the page - like our Navigator window when docked. They added a search | Apr 12 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > text field and two buttons below. The most interesting element is the | Apr 12 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > list of search results below, which are surrounded by document text to | Apr 12 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > give them some more context. | Apr 12 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > Here is how it looks: | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > +------------------------------------------+ | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | [ Search text ] [ ] | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | 15 matches | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | ______________ [ \/ ][ /\ ] | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | |Tab1|Tab2|Tab3|_______________________ | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | Bla bla bla *Search text* bla bla | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | bla bla | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | Bla bla bla *Search text* bla bla | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | bla bla | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | Bla bla bla *Search text* bla bla | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | bla bla | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | | | | | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > . . | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > . . | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > . . | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > +------------------------------------------+ | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > What I like: | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > * Unobtrusive position | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > * Search findings are given in context | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > * They elegantly solved the mapping problem (with the next / | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > previous buttons) | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > * They provide information on how many items have been found | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > What I don't like: | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > * It requires some space | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > * After identifying the search item, they add an additional | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > context change from the search result to the document | Apr 12 21:07 |
| schestowitz | > I thought it might be interesting for you, since this might be | Apr 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz | > additional input for the discussion. | Apr 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz | > Bye, | Apr 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz | > Christoph | Apr 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz | [not related to the above:] | Apr 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I am afraid the "We" is getting /them/. They try to own both camps. | Apr 12 21:08 |
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| MinceR | Holy Wall of Text, Batman! | Apr 12 21:19 |
| schestowitz | YEAH, BABY! | Apr 12 21:28 |
| schestowitz | /austin powers voice | Apr 12 21:28 |
| MinceR | :D | Apr 12 21:37 |
| MinceR | "Hail to the King, Baby!" | Apr 12 21:37 |
| MinceR | /Duke Nukem voice | Apr 12 21:37 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3i6eEgRlLY | Apr 13 10:21 |
| schestowitz | scientes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se12y9hSOM0 | Apr 13 11:06 |
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| schestowitz | Anonymised: | Apr 13 19:42 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, Roy, | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've unsuccessfully tried to reset my password for BoycottNovell. The | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> new password only works for part of the site and I cannot log in to post | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> comments. | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can reset if for you from my end. | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New PW: ...... | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>> >>>>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems that the different parts of Boycottnovell use different | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>> >>>>>> passwords. :( The Wiki is different from the commentary. | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>>> Yes, unifying those would require something more complicated like LDAP. | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>>> I don't even wanna go there... | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>>> We could use help around the Wiki, especially with post indices (lists). | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> I'm amenable to looking at it. | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> <no quote this week> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> I wonder if Jo Shields is covering his/her ass. See : | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> Biography: Key member in the Microsoft conspiracy | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> Occupation: Evil Shill | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=176650#stats | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/11/AR2006121101389.html | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>>> </> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>> >>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>> >>> See friends: | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>> >>> | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >>> >>> http://www.google.com/search?q=site:boycottnovell.com+alternatealias&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GB | Apr 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >> >> | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> <private> | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> I've been active the last week on the Ubuntu forums and notice a little | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> guarding so far, both of mono and of other M$ services like Citrix. The | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> shill style is the same: attack and put words in the other's mouth. My | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> approach there is to try to avoid responding to off-topic posts. | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > > | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > > Yes, I get trolled by them every day. I ignore. Lund trolls me a lot too. | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | He's been trolling the ODF forums. It looks like MS has pulled in most | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | of its resources and concentrating them on undermining established | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | projects by 'helping' them to death. | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | As far as I can tell, most of the talented people have been burned out | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | and these shits, quislings and saboteurs fuck the hell out of the | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | remainder of the projects by porting everything to C# with a smile. | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | <private>At my previous job a stupid fucker named ***** used to show | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | up uninvited and 'help', especially with purchasing. Basically it was a | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | denial of service attack. I remember he got two different department | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | heads to *each* fill out the same form *three times a piece* taking | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | several hours each time. | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | </> | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> However, Shuttleworth will have to do something about the 'MS insiders' | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> as they are, as expected, using Ubuntu as a stepping board to get into | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> and destroy debian. I realize now that some of the trouble also comes | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> via FreeBSD, which IMHO their technical skills notwithstanding is | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> largely a bunch of clowns, asshats and MSFT wannabees. | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> >> </> | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > > | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > > Don't waste time on it. It means we're winning. | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | I'm not, but I am also aware of the need to cut them out in a way they | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | cannot do more damage. For example, the presentations have complained | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | that college-educated people won't touch M$ shit. M$ solution? | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Shoehorn MS Exchange into institutions to DDOS the talented folks, and | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | at the same time shove their 'M$ friends on the inside' into key positions. | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | <private>e.g.. | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.si.umich.edu/2009/06/29/si-adds-three-stellar-faculty-to-roster/ | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Something went terribly wrong with the hiring process, and a mistake | Apr 13 19:47 |
| schestowitz | like that could not happen in a vacuum. There had to be at least one | Apr 13 19:47 |
| schestowitz | insider there already. | Apr 13 19:47 |
| schestowitz | </> | Apr 13 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Someone from Red Hat tells me: | Apr 13 20:35 |
| schestowitz | "FMueller plays a strange role. Comes out of the blue. I smell more." | Apr 13 20:35 |
| schestowitz | "I was once quite close to being a freind of FMueller during swpat war. That has changed." | Apr 13 20:35 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <narendra> there | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> Hey | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <narendra> hi | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <narendra> I have done with schoolOS website | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <schestowitz> Cool! | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [22:53] <narendra> have a look - | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [22:53] <narendra> http://schoolos.org/ | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [22:55] <narendra> have a look on package list when you got time - http://schoolos.org | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [23:04] <schestowitz> ok | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [23:04] * schestowitz looks | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [23:04] <schestowitz> http://www.elivecd.org/ | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [23:04] <schestowitz> :-D | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [23:05] <narendra> only backgrund images :),, i have to stick with Gnome | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [23:05] <schestowitz> Yeah | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz |  | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | [23:11] <-- narendra has left this server (Quit: Page closed). | Apr 13 23:12 |
| schestowitz | The Web site's migration is now complete. It presents itself as a place focusing on opponents of Free software. Apple, Microsoft, and Novell are listed in this specific order and lists of relevant posts are presented. The site's tag line is as RMS suggested (Free software Sentry). | Apr 14 01:42 |
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| phIRCe-local | Hello World! I'm phIRCe-local running phIRCe v0.3 | Apr 14 02:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54?recommended=1#p/f/4/jwywMP4Sxgo | Apr 14 09:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- potholer54's Channel .::. Size~: 98.3 KB | Apr 14 09:22 |
| schestowitz | Test: http://techrights.org/2010/04/12/turbohercules-based-in-seattle/ | Apr 14 11:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Patents Roundup: New Conferences, Oink of the Patent Lawyers in New Zealand, and TurboHercules Secret Home in 701 Fifth Avenue, Suite 4200 Seattle, WA 98104 | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.4 KB | Apr 14 11:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk | Apr 14 18:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- The video that should sink John McCain's presidential dreams .::. Size~: 81.02 KB | Apr 14 18:18 |
| schestowitz | > ot: this is of course BS. Who designs OSs to trask any alien Operating Systems | Apr 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | > "OS/2 promptly ate my partition table and destroyed all my DVX, | Apr 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | > windows and dos partitions" | Apr 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 14 21:17 |
| schestowitz | > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/04/14/1548238/Is-OS2-Coming-Back?art_pos=5 | Apr 14 21:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Linux Story | Is OS/2 Coming Back? .::. Size~: 148.5 KB | Apr 14 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2p9CAZ-8RU | Apr 15 12:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4065 | Apr 15 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | From "John Magneito": | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Hi, many misconceptions here. | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Apr 16 17:32 | |
| schestowitz | > I've been a reader of your site among others for an extended period of | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > time and something you've said recently stuck out. It had been bothering | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > me for a few weeks and I decided that I should just come out and ask you | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > and see what I get from your reply. | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you by the way for taking time to read this. The questions are | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > following. | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > I noticed on Boycott Novell you mentioned finishing school and obtaining | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > your PhD, which I want to congratulate you on. | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > 1) You mentioned the readership of Boycott Novell was strong enough that | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > it's generated ad revenue allowed you to pursue Boycott Novell as a full | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > time job. Being a long time reader and supporter of your site I wonder | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > if it is a disservice to the public to live off of the donates given to | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > you by your visitors? | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > 2) Generally GNU/Linux users tend to have some sort of ad blocking | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > software installed for browsing the web. Your regular visitors will | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > never see advertisements. This revenue seems to be entirely from new | Apr 16 17:32 |
| schestowitz | > visitors, and possibly from the interesting headlines generated. | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | > 3) Is Boycott Novell a tabloid? It certainly fits the style and | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | > substance of a mass print tabloid paper. | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks again Roy, | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | > John | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Lies, lies, lies | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | I think it's one of the trolls trying to bait me. I don't get a dime, it's a troll. | Apr 16 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Maybe a friend of the ACCESS trolls. They pretext... | Apr 16 17:33 |
| *MinceR_ is now known as MinceR | Apr 16 18:19 | |
| MinceR | John Magneto, Mutant :> | Apr 16 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Google it, nothing | Apr 16 19:09 |
| schestowitz | It's a gmail account | Apr 16 19:09 |
| schestowitz | One result: | Apr 16 19:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&q=%22John+Magneito%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= | Apr 16 19:10 |
| schestowitz | http://digg.com/users/magneito/history/favorites | Apr 16 19:10 |
| schestowitz | "A 66 year-old dude from Beverly Hills (US) who joined Digg on November 21st, 2009" | Apr 16 19:10 |
| schestowitz | http://digg.com/users/magneito/history/profile | Apr 16 19:11 |
| schestowitz | No activity | Apr 16 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Why create an account and do nothing with it for ages? | Apr 16 19:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=%22John+Magneito%22&hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&filter=0 | Apr 16 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I ignored his trolling attempt and lies | Apr 16 19:12 |
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| schestowitz | I decided to repond | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | It would be rude otherwise... | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Hi, John. Many misconceptions here, so I'll address them below. | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Apr 17 17:28 | |
| schestowitz | > I've been a reader of your site among others for an extended period of | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > time and something you've said recently stuck out. It had been bothering | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > me for a few weeks and I decided that I should just come out and ask you | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > and see what I get from your reply. | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you by the way for taking time to read this. The questions are | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > following. | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > I noticed on Boycott Novell you mentioned finishing school and obtaining | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > your PhD, which I want to congratulate you on. | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Thank you! | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Apr 17 17:28 | |
| schestowitz | > 1) You mentioned the readership of Boycott Novell was strong enough that | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > it's generated ad revenue allowed you to pursue Boycott Novell as a full | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > time job. | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | No, not at all. The ads pay $20-$30 per month, so I rely on a friend to give server space. I pass him all that amount (about a dollar a day or less). | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > Being a long time reader and supporter of your site I wonder | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > if it is a disservice to the public to live off of the donates given to | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > you by your visitors? | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I never received a single donation (one person offered a donating in 2007 and I declined). I doubt people would give any money, so I never asked. :-( Would you be willing to help? | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > 2) Generally GNU/Linux users tend to have some sort of ad blocking | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > software installed for browsing the web. Your regular visitors will | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > never see advertisements. This revenue seems to be entirely from new | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > visitors, and possibly from the interesting headlines generated. | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I try to contain the message in the headline, just like in TechDirt.com (long headlines). | Apr 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Apr 17 17:28 | |
| schestowitz | > 3) Is Boycott Novell a tabloid? It certainly fits the style and | Apr 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | > substance of a mass print tabloid paper. | Apr 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | No, I try to accurately cover what I see. I enjoy complete independence (no source of bias or fear that leads to self censorship). To me, it's like a journal and I am delighted that so many other people read it too. I have nearly run out of savings, so I don't know if I can keep this journal going. I haven't asked for help because sites like Phoronix and Groklaw suggest that few/no people would be willing to help. It's rather | Apr 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | saddening that people who intend to help others (PRWatch for example) struggle to receive support. | Apr 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-New-Wallpapers-of-Ubuntu-10-04-LTS-139925.shtml | Apr 17 17:37 |
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| phIRCe-local | Hello World! I'm phIRCe-local running phIRCe v0.3 | Apr 17 17:37 |
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| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 17 17:37 |
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| Omar87 | Hi | Apr 17 17:38 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I'm currently in the process of writing an article about how Free Software respects users' rights of privacy and anonymity, | Apr 17 17:40 |
| Omar87 | and I'm thinking of citing a statement by Jacob Appelbaum from the TOR project in his conference in Jordan last year, in which he says that he's willing to go to prison if he had to. | Apr 17 17:41 |
| Omar87 | Though, I'm just not sure this is a good idea. | Apr 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz | I see what he means | Apr 17 17:42 |
| Omar87 | What do you think? | Apr 17 17:42 |
| schestowitz | He basically says that if he died or was jailed for doing the right thing, he's fine with it | Apr 17 17:42 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, exactly. | Apr 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz | I more or less agree. Look what happens in China to critics of the regime. | Apr 17 17:43 |
| Omar87 | That's right. | Apr 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz | But I don't think it's something most people would relate to, they are sufficiently brainwahsed | Apr 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Being in jail != being a bad person | Apr 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Being in jail != behaving in ways the authorities don't approve | Apr 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Many people don't approve authorities in the first place because the only authority we have (temporarily) is our parents | Apr 17 17:44 |
| Omar87 | Or even in Egypt. Where someone was jailed over a newspaper article in which he predicted that the president might be sick. | Apr 17 17:44 |
| schestowitz | They need to guide us to show us how to survive, then we're on our own | Apr 17 17:44 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, yeah.. almost. :-) | Apr 17 17:44 |
| schestowitz | [17:43] <schestowitz> Being in jail != behaving in ways the authorities don't approve | Apr 17 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Oops. | Apr 17 17:45 |
| schestowitz | I meant "==" | Apr 17 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Don't say this to people that's a broad audience though. It took me a long time to get past the indoctrination and see it for myself. You can't get that across to people who are bombarded by conflicting messages on TV | Apr 17 17:46 |
| schestowitz | The FSF struggles to explain Freedom to people because people synonymity that with "choice" or "cheap" | Apr 17 17:46 |
| Omar87 | My argument is going to be like this: "Are Microsoft's Most Valuable Hypocrites ready to sacrifice everything they have if it was the only way to protect the rights of the people who use MS's products?" | Apr 17 17:47 |
| schestowitz | They need to go and live in Peru for a year, then come back | Apr 17 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Then you ask them, "do you know what's Freedom now?" | Apr 17 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Someone from India said some years ago (in FSDaily IIRC) that freedom can only be understood once you lose it | Apr 17 17:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that's correct. | Apr 17 17:48 |
| Omar87 | I totally agree. | Apr 17 17:48 |
| MinceR | it can be understood even if you don't lose it but that needs more care and brain. :> | Apr 17 17:49 |
| Omar87 | Once these huge money-hungry corporate demons tighten their grip around your neck to extremely unbearable level, that's where realize what "Freedom" really used to mean. | Apr 17 17:51 |
| Omar87 | to *an* extremely unbearable level.. | Apr 17 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Freedom is a broad concept | Apr 17 17:56 |
| schestowitz | I used to have no freedom even as a writer | Apr 17 17:57 |
| schestowitz | When I was writing for publications | Apr 17 17:57 |
| schestowitz | The editor would censor me | Apr 17 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Or lead to self-censorship | Apr 17 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Same in journalism | Apr 17 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Like in Egypt | Apr 17 17:57 |
| schestowitz | If you know something you writer /might/ lead to retaliation, you will not write it | Apr 17 17:57 |
| schestowitz | In the US, if you criticise Israel, then you'll be hounded | Apr 17 17:57 |
| schestowitz | In England, if you oppose the Iraq war in 2003, then you're considered a traitor | Apr 17 17:58 |
| schestowitz | And in Jordan, to accuse the king of misconduct is unthinkable | Apr 17 17:58 |
| schestowitz | The NYT had to compensate some king like half a million for just saying the truth | Apr 17 17:58 |
| schestowitz | About conflict of interests | Apr 17 17:58 |
| schestowitz | So basically, there is never political freedom | Apr 17 17:59 |
| schestowitz | That's just one way you could explain freedom | Apr 17 17:59 |
| schestowitz | In software it can be similar when someone else totally controls your machine or the apps you are allowed to run (see how hypePad censors apps) | Apr 17 17:59 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, exactly. | Apr 17 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Explain that it gets worse over time | Apr 17 18:04 |
| schestowitz | RMS had this version decades ago | Apr 17 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Amazon's remote deletion of books | Apr 17 18:04 |
| schestowitz | So that they can control what you read and can pass to a neighbour | Apr 17 18:05 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, exactly. | Apr 17 18:06 |
| schestowitz | RMS says you should talk about freedom | Apr 17 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Not source code, security, power, etc. | Apr 17 18:08 |
| schestowitz | I believe this to be right for many reasons, if we were ever to have concrete added value/proposition | Apr 17 18:09 |
| schestowitz | People won't move to Linux because "it's so much more beautiful and has great games" | Apr 17 18:09 |
| MinceR | if you read the winblows EULA, you can see that not even there do you get total control of your own machine | Apr 17 18:12 |
| MinceR | all in the name of DRM, of course | Apr 17 18:12 |
| schestowitz | MPAA | Apr 17 18:27 |
| MinceR | now i know whose mice get the m$ label >> http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/201685.asp | Apr 17 18:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Labor group: Chinese teens 'like prisoners' in Microsoft tech factory .::. Size~: 121.18 KB | Apr 17 18:29 |
| MinceR | (KYE Systems owns the Genius brand) | Apr 17 18:29 |
| MinceR | (afaik) | Apr 17 18:29 |
| MinceR | then again, they mention a lot of companies that outsource their work to that company | Apr 17 18:31 |
| schestowitz | The cost of capitalism | Apr 17 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Would rather not say it publicly | Apr 17 18:32 |
| schestowitz | But it just shows how today's capitalism works | Apr 17 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Something like, "hey, it's great for us top 1%, sure the Chinese are slaves, but HEY! There's a billion of them" | Apr 17 18:33 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 17 18:33 |
| schestowitz | ANd we're suposed to cherish capitalism and tell all our friends that it's wonderful | Apr 17 18:33 |
| schestowitz | This -prison- factory is why people turn to communism sometimes | Apr 17 18:33 |
| MinceR | it could be good, but not if some companies get away with this | Apr 17 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Localised vs Globalised scope | Apr 17 18:33 |
| MinceR | some sort of control is necessary, either by the people or by the governments | Apr 17 18:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: sure they get away with it | Apr 17 18:34 |
| schestowitz | It's the norm | Apr 17 18:34 |
| MinceR | (as it was already discovered -- that's why you don't see laissez-faire capitalism anywhere) | Apr 17 18:34 |
| schestowitz | They turn a blind eye, pretending it's a violation of the law | Apr 17 18:34 |
| MinceR | (it led to trusts which were counterproductive to the goals of capitalism) | Apr 17 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Like the curch pretends child abuse is just a "rotten apple" | Apr 17 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Any child who is taught about Hell is already abused | Apr 17 18:35 |
| MinceR | i know they get away with it | Apr 17 18:35 |
| MinceR | my point is that capitalism where they aren't allowed to get away with it is possible | Apr 17 18:35 |
| schestowitz | cross-borders? | Apr 17 18:36 |
| MinceR | even then | Apr 17 18:36 |
| MinceR | laws can (and do) apply to what a company does abroad | Apr 17 18:37 |
| MinceR | and if there are alternatives to get products/services from _and_ cases like this are well publicized _and_ the consumers care then it can lead to loss of profits | Apr 17 18:38 |
| MinceR | if people were allowed to keep and bear arms and fight for justice then they could also punish companies like these | Apr 17 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.katonda.com/blog/1050/how-google-can-free-world-flash-slavery | Apr 17 18:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google May Free The World From Flash Slavery! | Katonda .::. Size~: 31.41 KB | Apr 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Ironic since most people install Flash for youtube | Apr 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | And chrome comes with Flash | Apr 17 18:51 |
| MinceR | "Muktware"? | Apr 17 18:53 |
| MinceR | also, is there any indication of google also licensing the patents (and not just the code) of VP8? | Apr 17 18:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYlSmfT7iQ&feature=digest | Apr 17 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=magneito | Apr 17 20:52 |
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| MinceR | :) | Apr 17 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Maybe just an innocent one with a pseudonym though | Apr 17 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | I like this guy's satires: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P591Yt6dIHY | Apr 18 12:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-vhyqx_Duc | Apr 18 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQUR2tvuQhI | Apr 18 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | Apr 18 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4043 | Apr 18 19:17 |
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| schestowitz | Great one, re Novell employees too | Apr 18 19:17 |
| schestowitz | [22:00] <narendra> hi | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:01] <schestowitz> Hey | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:01] <narendra> just found out the origin of oss - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/tech-students-out-to-give-software-firms-run-for-money/603893/ :) stupid indian paper | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <schestowitz> I saw that one | Apr 18 22:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Tech students out to give software firms run for money .::. Size~: 55.16 KB | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <schestowitz> About Google SOC, IIRC | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <schestowitz> Q: what is OSS? | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <schestowitz> A: it's Google | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <schestowitz> I see a lot of this nonsense | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <schestowitz> Google=open source | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <schestowitz> No open source before Google etc. | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:03] <schestowitz> I wrote about this last week and showed how the Microsoft press says these lies | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz |  | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:03] <narendra> OSScube is a india company,,, they organise osscamp to promote them self | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | :-/ | Apr 18 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIhTONOxIo | Apr 19 01:47 |
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| schestowitz | > Re: techrights.org style and layout ... | Apr 19 14:23 |
| schestowitz | > You need to change the layout. The current one is too confusing. You | Apr 19 14:23 |
| schestowitz | > do include a lot of good stuff, but navigating around the site is | Apr 19 14:23 |
| schestowitz | > confusing ... | Apr 19 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Can you be more specific? | Apr 19 14:23 |
| schestowitz | > Take a look at Groklaw and then take a look at yours. Your's is hard | Apr 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > to navigate or go back later and find that interesting article you | Apr 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > linked to. That's the truth .. | Apr 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > --- | Apr 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > insert meaningful quote: | Apr 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > "I'm here about some monkeys" | Apr 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > "Microsoft is beta testing a new service called Fix It, which can | Apr 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > diagnose and fix many problems with Windows PCs, and it's free" | Apr 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > Except you have to download and run an executable as admin ... | Apr 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/askjack/2010/apr/19/microsoft-fixit-free-service | Apr 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Apr 19 18:02 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Can Microsoft fix it? Sometimes it can, with its new Fix It service |Technology |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 79.95 KB | Apr 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I ignored that story. | Apr 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Re: UK Linux mirrors | Apr 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz | > I notice a lack of UK mirrors for various Linux projects. Is this a | Apr 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz | > co-incidence. Why not check it out. | Apr 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.elivecd.org/Download/Stable#download | Apr 19 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | > did you ever consider to use another theme on your blog? the one you are using looks shabby imho. - your work is worth a better look! :) | Apr 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Is is THAT bad, MinceR? | Apr 19 18:04 |
| MinceR | schestowitz.com? yes, it's pretty ugly :> | Apr 19 18:40 |
| schestowitz | No | Apr 19 19:54 |
| schestowitz | techrights | Apr 19 19:54 |
| MinceR | it's nothing special | Apr 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | I know | Apr 19 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | This is a good channel on science: http://www.youtube.com/user/philhellenes#p/u/15/wbrQI0r1B7w | Apr 20 10:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8A9DEeglXI | Apr 20 10:53 |
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| schestowitz | I've just masked my hostnames | Apr 20 16:43 |
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| phIRCe-local | Hello World! I'm phIRCe-local running phIRCe v0.3 | Apr 20 16:44 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmmmmmm....... | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > Your moderating policy is your own business, of course, I just wanted to call | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > your attention to the first comment to | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2010/04/19/ina-fried-gets-billg-as-present/: | Apr 20 20:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KB | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > "I would never trust a dude that gets his bits inverted. It’s all FUD from a | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > freak who hates himself so much, he must leech on the success of others.." | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > etc. | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > Ina Fried is transgendered, so that is quite the cheap shot. | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > I hope you are well, the new site title is perty :) | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Hi, ****, | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the kind words. In the entire history of the site Shane and I never ever deleted a comment (seriously!). I tend to just ignore the rude people, whom people like Jo Shields love to quote as though they represent my views. I could reply to tell off the commenter, but that would just feed him. The last time I tried to do that, I got framed and attacked (quoted out of context after the "Fink" dude decided to avenge, after I | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | had told him off for trolling mailing lists repeatedly). | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > Hello: | Apr 20 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 20 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > Bill Gates to talk on global problems April 20, Rockefeller Chapel | Apr 20 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > http://news.uchicago.edu/news.php?asset_id=1937 | Apr 20 20:13 |
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| schestowitz | > | Apr 20 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > 'nuf said (as our IT infrastructure becomes more, not less, Microsoft-centric at the behest of the school's administration) ... | Apr 20 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Bill is taking the time to ensure he's controlling colleges, not just children's schools. | Apr 20 20:13 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/04/19/ina-fried-gets-billg-as-present/ | Apr 20 20:13 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ina Fried Receives Microsoft Payback as Gates Reputation Laundering Tour Kicks Off in US Colleges | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.38 KB | Apr 20 20:13 |
| schestowitz | I have just written a response to him. I was in too much of a hurry yesterday because I went for the record and posted 28 posts in just one day (my goal was 30, but I ran out of ideas). | Apr 20 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ8OQrgL6RQ | Apr 21 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/user/philhellenes#p/u/24/LFQwsP0xdz8 | Apr 22 12:55 |
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| schestowitz | > This is ridiculous, Firefox on Lubuntu runs better than the native XP, | Apr 22 18:31 |
| schestowitz | > on the same box ... | Apr 22 18:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 22 18:31 |
| schestowitz | > Lubuntu Lucid Beta 2, Ff 3.6.5pre, 4GB USB device | Apr 22 18:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 22 18:31 |
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| *MinceR has come up with a new term: proprietard | Apr 23 17:51 | |
| MinceR | maybe not new | Apr 23 17:51 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Apr 23 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Too offensive | Apr 23 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Retard is a real condition | Apr 23 17:56 |
| schestowitz | *rted | Apr 23 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Heh. http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/12693562623 | Apr 23 17:56 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / TT: #followfriday @schestowitz ... .::. Size~: 10.85 KB | Apr 23 17:56 |
| schestowitz | > They've remade "the Prisoner" .. and Americanized it .. the bastards :) | Apr 23 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 23 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.amctv.com/originals/the-prisoner/ | Apr 23 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Big budget, bigger boobs, bigger popcorn. | Apr 23 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz well, he who issues a lot of interesting comments, has to leave something for their picky, but less bright friends :)" http://identi.ca/conversation/29599248#notice-29726549 | Apr 24 00:46 |
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| schestowitz | re Costa | Apr 24 08:28 |
| schestowitz | "very interesting. one of the weirder things i've heard about microsoft, ever :)" http://identi.ca/conversation/29670245#notice-29746405 | Apr 24 08:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/29696134#notice-29768781 "@schestowitz chris "factoryjoe" messina's brilliant word for what microsoft does to the word "open." the links are worth it, really" | Apr 24 08:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.11 KB | Apr 24 08:37 |
| schestowitz | http://nat.org/blog/2010/04/future-past/ | Apr 24 08:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Future Past · Nat Friedman .::. Size~: 29.2 KB | Apr 24 08:51 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* Novell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erKtyZZdb2M | Apr 24 09:20 |
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| schestowitz | just told ender: "What got you so angry? I never understood that, others couldn't either." | Apr 24 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV_UleamHUc&feature=digest | Apr 25 01:18 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz hey a masters in homeopathy really isn't much. a few more years and she can work her way up to bachelors- that's like double the degree ;)" http://280.status.net/notice/56317 | Apr 25 08:45 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Sunday, 25-Apr-10 03:58:45 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 7.4 KB | Apr 25 08:45 |
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| schestowitz | "are you a robot? I mean how the heck can you post so many stories and stuff?!? Most are interesting but it's too much - disrupts my stream.." -Jos Poortvliet | Apr 25 12:54 |
| schestowitz | I need to apologise because people subscribe to me? | Apr 25 12:54 |
| schestowitz | "@jospoortvliet I post in series once in 1-2 days... that's how it works best for me" | Apr 25 12:55 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz And I would add MSFT have $40Bn in cash - http://bit.ly/dzKNw8" | Apr 25 15:56 |
| schestowitz | @CodepopeI have reasons not to believe their numbers, e.g. http://techrights.org/2010/02/16/msft-cfo-paid-to-shut-up/ | Apr 25 15:56 |
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| schestowitz | Under pressure there | Apr 25 15:56 |
| schestowitz | openuniverse140 | Apr 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz @lxoliva not too early to say: book-burning / macbook-burning, control is control img411.imageshack.us/img411/629/different.png | Apr 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/29858227#notice-29932663 | Apr 25 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | "HoustonLawy3r: It has been a while since we chatted. I hope all is going well with you. " | Apr 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | lawyer community | Apr 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | "" | Apr 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | @HoustonLawy3r you should come over to IRC maybe. It's nice over here..." | Apr 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz ok no biggy then, I was afraid you'd be posting news all day ;-)" | Apr 25 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz nevermind SV- #Google gets wifi MACs+GPS geoloc. data from all !Android users that accept it. See attached. http://ur1.ca/x20e " | Apr 26 01:48 |
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| schestowitz | @magicfab thanks a lot! very informative. | Apr 26 01:48 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/1df514cb67b03109/b8036054f7e0ebc3 | Apr 26 01:50 |
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| schestowitz | \" | Apr 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | > Ezekiel wrote: | Apr 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | >> Peter wrote: | Apr 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | >>> You cargo cultists seem to easily get used to be censored by your High | Apr 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | >>> Priest "The Steve" | Apr 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | >> So how is it that your high priest "The Schestowitz" decides your | Apr 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | >> cultist point of view? | Apr 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | > Simple: He doesn't. He never has, and never will. Because he can't. | Apr 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | > He "decides" *his* view. Not mine, or that of anyone else | Apr 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 26 01:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30112831#notice-30192273 "@schestowitz Just takes giving schools free software... my kid's high school "programming" classes are actually Microsoft program training" | Apr 27 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz While we're happy to have Microsoft as a client, this did not affect their standings in our Social Report. Happy to discuss!" | Apr 27 18:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/netprospex/statuses/12948894544 | Apr 27 18:34 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / NetProspex B2B: @schestowitz While we're h ... .::. Size~: 10.92 KB | Apr 27 18:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002899 | Apr 27 19:07 |
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| *schestowitz is now known as h | Apr 27 19:07 | |
| *h is now known as schestowitz | Apr 27 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | > A good book you might like | Apr 27 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 27 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 27 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 27 21:06 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Believe-Everything-You-Think/dp/1591024080 | Apr 27 21:06 |
| schestowitz | I've watched/listened to all episodes of Skeptoid except just 12 now.... will be done in 2 days. Good show. | Apr 27 21:07 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Amazon.com: Don't Believe Everything You Think: The 6 Basic Mistakes We Make in Thinking (9781591024088): Thomas E. Kida: Books .::. Size~: 369.44 KB | Apr 27 21:07 |
| MinceR | amazon is evil, though | Apr 27 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I know | Apr 27 21:10 |
| schestowitz | I wouldn't tell my family... | Apr 27 21:10 |
| schestowitz | That leads to followon questions | Apr 27 21:10 |
| schestowitz | I can't bear it, no patience | Apr 27 21:10 |
| schestowitz | I'm getting a trophy next month | Apr 27 21:11 |
| schestowitz | > Hey roy, you coming to the midland quiz night on the 20th may, its in aid of jordan I think and they will give out the comp prizes too. | Apr 27 21:11 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz important remark on !ubuntu : #canonical creates #foss __and__ is a #forprofit company" http://identi.ca/conversation/30181523#notice-30264309 | Apr 28 02:10 |
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| schestowitz | "@hgfernan yes, I know about #Canonical . I wish them well with !Ubuntu (I've used it since 2004/5)" | Apr 28 02:12 |
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| schestowitz | [20:10] <sebsebseb> hrm | Apr 28 20:11 |
| schestowitz | [20:10] <schestowitz> no PM please | Apr 28 20:11 |
| schestowitz |  | Apr 28 20:11 |
| schestowitz | [20:11] <sebsebseb> well you type loads of stuff etc. so maybe you can do me a little favour | Apr 28 20:11 |
| schestowitz | [20:11] <sebsebseb> oh no pm? | Apr 28 20:11 |
| schestowitz | I hate PMs...... | Apr 28 20:11 |
| schestowitz | That's very nice.... | Apr 28 20:26 |
| schestowitz | This afternoon I received some mail about a lecturer role down in London, but it's full time. A friend of mine from the gym (professor from MMU) signs up there, so he handed my CV over to them. | Apr 28 20:27 |
| schestowitz | "hi, pal ! congratulations for your many job offers. people do acknowledge the importance of your work." | Apr 28 20:34 |
| schestowitz | We're gonna publish an IEEE journal paper | Apr 28 20:46 |
| schestowitz | "Tea Party Voters Win (teapartyvoter) is now following your tweets on Twitter. " | Apr 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz | huh? | Apr 28 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: do you keep IRC logs? I might need to reboot later today, for the fist time since November. | Apr 29 10:22 |
| MinceR | i do | Apr 29 10:23 |
| schestowitz | A picture of steve balmer should have been used. | Apr 29 10:34 |
| schestowitz | about an hour ago from web | Apr 29 10:34 |
| schestowitz | ^^ http://identi.ca/conversation/30335517#notice-30420382 | Apr 29 10:34 |
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| schestowitz | Gates is the more aggressive among the two (see Comes vs MSFT) | Apr 29 10:34 |
| schestowitz | People think of BillG as some sort of saint | Apr 29 10:34 |
| schestowitz | "@sourcewatch thanks for all the good work and the inspiration" | Apr 29 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30342660#notice-30429382 " | Apr 29 14:23 |
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| schestowitz | sandersch | Apr 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz That is not the general consensus I believe. | Apr 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz whats your topic at wordcamp?i couldnt find in the website. (im up late with new fb/connect/like integration onto our WP sites)" http://identi.ca/conversation/30343486#notice-30432152 | Apr 29 14:24 |
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| schestowitz | She thinks I attend it... | Apr 29 14:26 |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell-social | Apr 29 18:23 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software [publicly logged] | Apr 29 18:23 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz at Mon Mar 16 02:04:07 2009 | Apr 29 18:23 | |
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| schestowitz | Tomorrow I'll make the move | Apr 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | KDE 4.4 look great and solid | Apr 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | I'll need you to mail me the logs afterwards, for which I'll be so ever grateful :-) | Apr 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Troll: http://twitter.com/Elland_Road/status/13081375435 | Apr 29 22:08 |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell-social | Apr 30 07:08 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software [publicly logged] | Apr 30 07:08 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz at Mon Mar 16 02:04:07 2009 | Apr 30 07:08 | |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell-social | Apr 30 09:48 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software [publicly logged] | Apr 30 09:48 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz at Mon Mar 16 02:04:07 2009 | Apr 30 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | Just got some nice mail: | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Friend, | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Hi there! | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > I am big Techrights reader and read this website lots of time every day, | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > but I am writing you to put some very interesting question for | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > discussion and maybe you can write some comments too in website: | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > How you see if Microsoft will open source their Office, Windows (Mobile, | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Desktop, Server) operating systems? | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | They would only ever do it with their own licences and software patents. | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Can we write global petition to | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft to open source these products? | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | It would only help Microsoft. We need to abolish Microsoft for bad behaviour, too. | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Is this real and how you think? | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | It would not happen. | Apr 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > Can we love Mono if this product is open source? Why not to discuss with | Apr 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > Adobe to open source Flash? Why not ask companies to go open source if | Apr 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > this business model is the best? | Apr 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Adobe is a tricky one; Adobe competes against Web standards. We are better off promoting JS/HTML5/Ogg. | Apr 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz | lightbringer, could you please email me the logs of #techrights, #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social for the past 2 days? | Apr 30 14:55 |
| MinceR | not right now, but eventually i could | Apr 30 15:18 |
| schestowitz | thanks so much | Apr 30 15:24 |
| MinceR | np | Apr 30 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Show this to omar :-D http://www.youtube.com/user/philhellenes#p/f/39/xYaZTEuaFWE | Apr 30 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Frauds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0vIYBG2S8U | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Muller: "(despite the experience with the discussion following the LinkedIn conspiracy theory, I wanted to share these thoughts)" | Apr 30 20:27 |
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