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| schestowitz | Peter Westwood, | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | I am extremely grateful. That exactly was the problem. For anyone encountering the same issue (I tried to make the headline/title of this thread the description to which Google returns nothing), here is the solution. | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | DB Cache (see http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/db-cache/faq/ ) not only gets registered among the plugins but it also has files in one's /wp-content directory -- files that are not being updated when WordPress 3.0.x is installed, for obvious reasons. So disabling the plugin is not enough (I did try to find solutions around caching before, but didn't imagine that going beyond disabling and clearing of cache would be | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | required). | Aug 01 08:07 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: WordPress : DB Cache « WordPress Plugins .::. Size~: 20.11 KB | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Notice that in order to reinstall DB Cache fully, one needs to do the following: | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote>How do I uninstall DB Cache? | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | 1. Disable it at Settings->DB Cache page. The plugin will automatically delete all cache files. If something went wrong - delete /wp-content/db.php, /wp-content/db-config.php and /wp-content/tmp folder. While db.php file exists WordPress will use our optimized DB class instead of own. | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | 2. Deactivate it at plugins page. | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | </blockquote> | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Basically, that's the source of the problem I had. In my searching for a solution I have read in some other sites that other caching plguins caused similar issues, but the solutions to these issues were different. | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Thanks again Peter for an excellent piece of advice! | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | http://wordpress.org/support/topic/upgade-php-fatal-error-call-to-undefined-method-wpdbtables-in-upgradephp?replies=4#post-1624679 | Aug 01 08:07 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: WordPress : Support » Upgade: PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method wpdb::tables() in upgrade.php .::. Size~: 13.69 KB | Aug 01 08:07 |
| schestowitz | So relieved now............... | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:37] <tessier_> I can't find my note of the db root pass. | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:38] <tessier_> Presuming you want me to restore the and you aren't doing it right now. | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:38] <schestowitz> Is it one I might have? | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:38] <schestowitz> I have something written down | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:38] <tessier_> Probably | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:39] <schestowitz> I probably have it... | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:39] <tessier_> found it! | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:39] <tessier_> I am dropping the boycottn_wrdp1 db and reloading from that to-restore file now.... | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:40] <schestowitz> Ah :-) | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:40] <schestowitz> yeah, that would be good | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:40] <schestowitz> Seems like the guy found a possible solution | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:40] <tessier_> It is loading | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:40] <schestowitz> That db file the guy mentioned wasn't updated | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:41] <schestowitz> -rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 30153 Sep 9 2009 db.php | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:41] <tessier_> done | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:41] <schestowitz> THanks! | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:41] <tessier_> ah | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:42] <schestowitz> I think the cache plugins might have put it there | Aug 01 08:12 |
| schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> I'll rename it | Aug 01 08:13 |
| schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/db-cache/faq/ | Aug 01 08:13 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: WordPress : DB Cache « WordPress Plugins .::. Size~: 20.11 KB | Aug 01 08:13 |
| schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> " | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> How do I uninstall DB Cache? | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> 1. Disable it at Settings->DB Cache page. The plugin will automatically delete all cache files. If something went wrong - delete /wp-content/db.php, /wp-content/db-config.php and /wp-content/tmp folder. While db.php file exists WordPress will use our optimized DB class instead of own. | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> 2. Deactivate it at plugins page. | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> " | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:44] <schestowitz> I will disable that, eliminate the files too and reattempt | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:44] <schestowitz> Seems like a plugin that needs deletion by force (not sure yet, let's seeee...) | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:48] <schestowitz> Woohoo!!!!!!!1 | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:48] <tessier_> working? | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:48] <schestowitz> That was it, it seems | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:48] <schestowitz> LEt me test it | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:48] <tessier_> Excellent | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:48] <schestowitz> Hmmm... hold on | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:48] <schestowitz> "Your WordPress database has been successfully upgraded!" | Aug 01 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [07:49] <schestowitz> Maybe I need to clear cookies now... | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:49] <schestowitz> YEah :-) | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:49] <schestowitz> Lt me try re-enabling plugins | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:53] <schestowitz> Yeah, all seems to be working perfectly so far | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:53] <schestowitz> Plugins too | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:53] <schestowitz> Thanks so much for all the help. I'll also thank "Westi" (I know him from ages ago) for the advice | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:54] <tessier_> You're welcome, sorry it was such a hassle. But now we know something new about wp. | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:54] <tessier_> Glad to see it upgraded. Last thing we need is a security problem or embarrassing defacement. | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:55] <tessier_> Speaking of upgrades, there are a fair number of OS patches available to bring it from CentOS 5.4 to 5.5. We should probably apply those at some point. | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:55] <schestowitz> tessier: thank _you_. I should be the sorry one | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:56] <schestowitz> I never had any hard time with upgrades | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:56] <schestowitz> It's the DB-cache plugins that does something nasty by requiring deletion of files to uninstall | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:56] <schestowitz> tessier: CentOS got good publicity recently. Most used Web server. | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:57] <schestowitz> People just download the ISO, deploy on hosting farms | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [07:57] <schestowitz> Jim from C.O.L.A. did this | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz |  | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [08:06] <tessier_> Yep. I have been using it on my servers for years. I have installed it for 5 different companies now. The fact that it is compatible and an easy switch to commercially supported RHEL makes it an easy sell. | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [08:06] <tessier_> Just in case they ever lose their mind and want to run Oracle or something. | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [08:06] <schestowitz> There are many other clones waiting to take their place | Aug 01 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [08:07] <schestowitz> xos, scientific, and at least 2 more I know of (and whose name I can't remember) | Aug 01 08:18 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmmmm.. "well the first time (on the blog) it never let it submit because i'm not on wp, google, or plus/minus 4 things i haven't heard of- then your site won't let it submit because i'm not on wordpress. i do have an account on wp somewhere, but i don't know user/pw/or email" | Aug 01 16:02 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/311194 | Aug 01 16:02 |
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| schestowitz | Techirghts doesn't require an account with any other network. It only requires that you create an account with the Techirghts site. | Aug 01 16:02 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/20076396352 "@schestowitz The commissioners pro Microsoft?! Neelie Kroes fought against Microsoft; Joaquín Almunia is from a very pro-FOSS party." | Aug 01 19:52 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / FOSS Patents: @schestowitz The commissio ... .::. Size~: 8.63 KB | Aug 01 19:52 |
| schestowitz | "mmasnick: Wanted to ping you again, asking you about your assertion that Coles is bullying us. Where did you hear that? Thanks." | Aug 02 00:18 |
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| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 06:17 |
| schestowitz | if I have problems with AdSense, do you know someone I can contact? | Aug 02 06:17 |
| schestowitz | > The public forum support is not something I like to use (I removed | Aug 02 06:17 |
| schestowitz | > AdSense from my site for that reason). The problem is, in short: checks | Aug 02 06:17 |
| schestowitz | > stopped arriving after I moved to a nearby town. I am now back in the | Aug 02 06:17 |
| schestowitz | > city, and would like to get all checks that I never got. | Aug 02 06:17 |
| schestowitz | Google works in mysterious ways. I think they have some Python-based inquiry thing and they are responsive on it. | Aug 02 06:17 |
| oiaohm | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_76\ | Aug 02 06:27 |
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| oiaohm | Ok cartoon is a bit lacking this month. | Aug 02 06:28 |
| schestowitz | Seen hat | Aug 02 06:28 |
| schestowitz | *that | Aug 02 06:28 |
| schestowitz | FSM/FSD are somewhat neglected | Aug 02 06:28 |
| oiaohm | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/10_years_free_software_wins_you_have_nowhere_install_it But still writes good articals. schestowitz | Aug 02 06:31 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 02 06:32 |
| oiaohm | Software market is ending. | Aug 02 06:32 |
| oiaohm | The start of the hardware overlords is on the way. | Aug 02 06:32 |
| schestowitz | That's the scarcity in this system | Aug 02 06:47 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmmmmm... | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | Trouble in Reviews Land.......... | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > I saw you mentioned on Twitter that Olin Coles was trying to bully me | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > into changing my post about Benchmark Reviews. I'm curious if you could | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > explain where that information came from? I tried to ask you via | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > Twitter, but I haven't heard back, and not sure if you saw the messages. | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks so much, | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | > Mike | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | Hi Mike, | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | The part which I perceived as a deadline/ultimatum was the following: | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | "I request that you reword your article to reflect only facts you can prove, | Aug 02 08:01 |
| schestowitz | and remove claims you have made and assert as truth but do not hold proof | Aug 02 08:02 |
| schestowitz | of. These changes should be made within the next 48 hours." | Aug 02 08:02 |
| schestowitz | Was I wrong to assume he pessured you too hard? Bear in mind that I disliked Benchmark Reviews for other reasons (even before this incident). It scrapes content from sites like Phoronix (benchmarks) which are not included in Google News. This way he gets traffic with other people's stories. It's not illegal, but it just says something about Benchmark Reviews having poor policies and hypocrisy too (recall the reasons/basis for | Aug 02 08:02 |
| schestowitz | Coles' DMCA takedown). | Aug 02 08:02 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | This gets interesting. | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | > No, my question is where you saw that text? He did send that to us via | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | > an email, but I was unaware it was stated publicly anywhere. I was | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | > trying to see if he had said something publicly as that may be useful in | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | > my reply. | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | He sent me your full exchange and demanded that I share it nowhere... as though he can just 'NDA' an E-mail, so to speak. :-D | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Bear in mind that I | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | >> disliked Benchmark Reviews for other reasons (even before this | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | >> incident). It scrapes content from sites like Phoronix (benchmarks) | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | >> which are not included in Google News. This way he gets traffic with | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | >> other people's stories. It's not illegal, but it just says something | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | >> about Benchmark Reviews having poor policies and hypocrisy too (recall | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | >> the reasons/basis for Coles' DMCA takedown). | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | > Do you have evidence of that? Including specific screenshots? | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | Let me look... | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:benchmarkreviews.com+phoronix&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl= | Aug 02 08:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: site:benchmarkreviews.com phoronix - Google Search .::. Size~: 41.59 KB | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | So much for fair use. He puts a tiny link at the end and he grabs a lot of words, which is not illegal, but I just find that hypocritical (given the unnecessary DMCA abuse). He also 'hoards' comments this way. | Aug 02 08:11 |
| schestowitz | >> He sent me your full exchange and demanded that I share it nowhere... as | Aug 02 08:34 |
| schestowitz | >> though he can just 'NDA' an E-mail, so to speak. :-D | Aug 02 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > Fascinating. Is there a reason he shared it with you? | Aug 02 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Of course. He tried to censor my post too. It was phrased somewhat rudely. | Aug 02 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Masnick...: | Aug 02 10:10 |
| schestowitz | >> Of course. He tried to censor my post too. It was phrased somewhat | Aug 02 10:10 |
| schestowitz | >> rudely. | Aug 02 10:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 10:10 |
| schestowitz | > What post did you write? Still confused why he'd share his email to me | Aug 02 10:11 |
| schestowitz | > with you. Seems odd. | Aug 02 10:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 10:11 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway. We've been consulting lawyers here (what a waste of our time) | Aug 02 10:11 |
| schestowitz | > and will be replying to Coles shortly. | Aug 02 10:11 |
| schestowitz | Here is my post about the site. http://techrights.org/2010/07/27/benchmarkreviews-busted-corrupt/ | Aug 02 10:11 |
| schestowitz | It was motivated by the Phoronix thing in part (I am friends with Phoronix's founder). I've long ago perceived Coles' site as some sort of splog which I lumped along with other Google News-exploiting scams that either scrape or auto-generate (!!) 'content'. | Aug 02 10:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Benchmark Reviews is Plagiarism, Exposed, Resorts to DMCA Abuse (to Censor Critics) | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.14 KB | Aug 02 10:11 |
| schestowitz | To clarify, it wasn't my post which was strongly worded, it was the mail from Coles, which took me by surpise. I can't stand "reputation bullies" because they take up a lot of time, they never respond in public, and they try to act as though they are editors or someone else's content, sometimes by SLAPPing. I had a nasty experience with one such bully last year -- one who has a long history of a decade doing so and last month | Aug 02 10:11 |
| schestowitz | got someone fired this way (phoned his boss). | Aug 02 10:11 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I reckon you know who it's about | Aug 02 10:11 |
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| MinceR | i think i do | Aug 02 10:14 |
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| schestowitz | Some Web stalkkking in USENET.... | Aug 02 12:14 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/48be9676e8c67ffd# | Aug 02 12:15 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: see what they write about you | Aug 02 12:15 |
| schestowitz | And they attack me too: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/d4ee3d9c78e0e656# | Aug 02 12:16 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 28.03 KB | Aug 02 12:16 |
| schestowitz | More trolling: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/ea11a822c2bd3e58# | Aug 02 12:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/aed313b64c8790b1# | Aug 02 12:19 |
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| schestowitz | "Tim" is an old stalkker | Aug 02 12:19 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/1wIJB/ | Aug 02 12:22 |
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| schestowitz |  | Aug 02 12:47 |
| schestowitz | [12:44] <oiaohm> Really why I screw up wifi is I am a natural born jammer due to DNA fault. schestowitz | Aug 02 12:47 |
| schestowitz | [12:44] <oiaohm> Those guys are insanely narrow minded. | Aug 02 12:47 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: they are anti-Linux trolls | Aug 02 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Those who spread libel about me since 5 years ago | Aug 02 12:48 |
| oiaohm | Mind you I find my DNA handy. | Aug 02 12:51 |
| oiaohm | To demo to a business how much damage a wifi attack could cause. | Aug 02 12:51 |
| oiaohm | All I have to do is walk up to router and get annoyed. | Aug 02 12:52 |
| oiaohm | And wait for the screams. | Aug 02 12:52 |
| oiaohm | I do hate shops that have wireless scanners I have a bad habit of jamming them. | Aug 02 12:54 |
| oiaohm | DNA fault is part of the reason why I got into network secuirty assessing. | Aug 02 13:01 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: some computers will crash if they are exposed to a radio freq of exactly 283 mhz | Aug 02 13:02 |
| oiaohm | What my body can generate. | Aug 02 13:02 |
| MinceR | how did you find that out? | Aug 02 13:03 |
| oiaohm | Because I was crashing my high school computers when I walked into the computer lab. | Aug 02 13:03 |
| oiaohm | So we went investaging. | Aug 02 13:03 |
| MinceR | how many of them out of how many per entering the room? | Aug 02 13:03 |
| oiaohm | About 2 machines near the door. | Aug 02 13:04 |
| oiaohm | What is about a 3 meter radius of effect. | Aug 02 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Ie got worse as I walked down the row of computers to my seat. | Aug 02 13:04 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 02 13:05 |
| oiaohm | The built device could take out complete room. | Aug 02 13:06 |
| oiaohm | They were all the same model machines. | Aug 02 13:06 |
| oiaohm | Ie mono cultures are not good. | Aug 02 13:06 |
| MinceR | indeed, the Mono culture is evil ;) | Aug 02 13:06 |
| oiaohm | days when I was happy none of the computer locked up. | Aug 02 13:06 |
| oiaohm | Days when I was extreamlly annoyed computers were crashing like mad. | Aug 02 13:07 |
| MinceR | happens to me too | Aug 02 13:07 |
| MinceR | but not to that extent | Aug 02 13:07 |
| oiaohm | Days when I was being prick I would tense up waking pass a computer of a person I hated to the point there computer locked up. | Aug 02 13:07 |
| oiaohm | I never had a problem getting a computer in the computer room. | Aug 02 13:08 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 02 13:08 |
| oiaohm | I would just ask and anyone would move. | Aug 02 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Because if they did not they would loss there work. | Aug 02 13:08 |
| oiaohm | I got forbin from the computer room for that for a while then I locked up the school office computers instead. | Aug 02 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Yes natural ablity of that style is highly tempting todo evil. | Aug 02 13:09 |
| oiaohm | Most of my releations have the jamming skill at differing ammounts. MinceR | Aug 02 13:10 |
| oiaohm | I am not the strongest. The strongest can do about 15 meters. | Aug 02 13:11 |
| oiaohm | The weakess can do about 40 cms. | Aug 02 13:11 |
| oiaohm | Ie 15 meters radus. | Aug 02 13:12 |
| oiaohm | 40 cms we suspect is normal human limit. MinceR | Aug 02 13:13 |
| MinceR | what equipment can you measure it with? | Aug 02 13:14 |
| oiaohm | Only thing we found was crystals made to resinate when exposed to the correct radio freq. | Aug 02 13:16 |
| oiaohm | Basically the wattage is insane low even that it manages to screw everything up. | Aug 02 13:16 |
| oiaohm | Basically we found the freq by running a freq generator in the room until we crashed the machines. | Aug 02 13:17 |
| oiaohm | Then made the test to find if I was generating it. | Aug 02 13:17 |
| oiaohm | Yes along the way we found quite a few freqs that would work but I was not generating as well. | Aug 02 13:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 02 13:19 |
| oiaohm | I am stronger in the 2.4 ghz and the 800 mhz ranges. | Aug 02 13:20 |
| oiaohm | But that is due to reflection | Aug 02 13:20 |
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| schestowitz | > Good afternoon. I saw your article on Techrights entitled “Apple’s and | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft’s Robbery of Knowledge Using Patents, i4i Case Might Reach | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > SCOTUS <http://techrights.org/2010/08/02/i4i-patent-case-and-scotus/>” | Aug 02 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | > and found it extremely interesting. As you know, Sony Corporation, | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > McAfee, Activision, Quark and two other companies have been sued by | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > Uniloc USA for patent infringement. The suits stem from a massive case | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > against Microsoft (in which Uniloc initially won $388 million in damages | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > – the 5^th largest award for Software infringement ever) and the suit | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > is remarkable because of its potential reach: the technology in question | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > became so popular as to be virtually ubiquitous today. The case against | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft is currently on appeal. | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > The lawsuit mentioned below follows closely on the heels of a wave of | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > other suits by small businesses against goliaths (including two filed | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > last month - Ebay was sued for $3.8 billion by XPRT and Apple, Google, | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft and others were sued by NTP, as you know, over patented | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > smartphone technology), indicating small businesses are becoming more | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > aggressive in fighting for their intellectual property rights. | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > By way of background, in 1992 software companies were losing billions to | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > casual software copying. Uniloc was the first to combine the concept of | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > product key and Hardware ID, and using both they created an airtight | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > registration system (before this invention, most software relied on just | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > a product key that Tom, Dick and Harry could take to college, give to | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > their girlfriends and before you know it – millions of dollars in lost | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > sales). For the first time, Uniloc’s invention locked software to a | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > specific computer, making this casual copying next to impossible. | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > After patenting the invention in the early 90s, Uniloc commercialized | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > the product through a licensing deal with IBM, and then began talks with | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft. Microsoft signed a non-disclosure agreement to not reverse | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > engineer the product. But, as Microsoft’s own internal documents show – | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > that’s exactly what they did, then used the software in Windows XP. | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft is a bellwether for significant trends in the software | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > publishing industry, many other companies – including the ones named in | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > the lawsuit - observed their success and took the information that | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft had made public to pursue or develop their own software | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > activation systems. | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > Please let me know if you would like to speak with Brad Davis, CEO of | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > Uniloc USA; I’d be happy to coordinate a conversation. | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you for your consideration. | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Hi Kelsey, | Aug 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Will it be possible to do a short interview with Mr. Davis via E-mail. I would love to hear his side of the story. | Aug 02 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | Funnt.. | Aug 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Funny | Aug 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | I was just typing a post about Google | Aug 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | And now they mail me this: | Aug 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > I'm currently consulting my colleagues who are more acquainted with your | Aug 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > skills in order to best utilize our time. | Aug 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > I will be in contact as soon as I know what our next step might be. | Aug 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | They basically want to maybe hire maybe as a technical writer | Aug 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | /maybe/me/ | Aug 02 19:41 |
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| schestowitz | > Roy, | Aug 02 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you for your interest in hearing Brad's side of the story. I will check with Brad to see what his availability for today or tomorrow looks like for a short interview via email. When is best for you? Also, would you first email Brad directly? | Aug 02 20:00 |
| schestowitz | If that's possible, then yes, please. In particular, I am interested in his side of the story about the Microsoft case because Microsoft has a tendency to accuse others of patent infringement. When Microsoft itself wilfully (as proven in court) infringes someone else's patents as in the i4i case, then it vigorously claims innocence. I hope that Brad can provide our readers with some more information. | Aug 02 20:00 |
| schestowitz | I might get to post an interview with the company that got a third of a billion out of the Vole | Aug 02 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > I give these details so you can know you are not meeting a "nutter" | Aug 02 20:32 |
| schestowitz | > prior to coming to Luton. | Aug 02 20:32 |
| schestowitz | The trolls call anyone whom they disagree with a "nutter", then they try to sweep up some stuff to fit the stereotype. :-) | Aug 02 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Stupid religious nutters now contact me on skype. Total strangers... | Aug 02 20:34 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/44506460#notice-44823769 "@schestowitz Wow, and where's the respect for the constitution ? Americans, who bragg about their civil rights, R no better than China." | Aug 02 20:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.02 KB | Aug 02 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Religious spammers | Aug 02 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Some Jewish crap.. | Aug 02 20:36 |
| schestowitz | I'm blocking this spam | Aug 02 20:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 02 20:36 |
| schestowitz | [20:28:40] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Hi | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:33:38] Yakov Levin: How are you? | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:33:51] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: WHat is it about? | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:35:33] Yakov Levin: The Help and Education Center of Kiryat Gat has been an A Not-For-Profit Organization devoted to achieving true and lasting help for children and needy people, we needs your Immediate help to continue teaching Jewish values to the Children of Israel. | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | It our hope that you will visit our Web-site for | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Possible assistance. http://www.israelhelp.org | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | If you have any questions please e-mail | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Rabbi Levin At rabbilevin@israelhelp.org | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Thank you in advance if you decide to help. | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Shalom from Israel. | Aug 02 20:37 |
| MinceR | ew | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:35:47] Yakov Levin: Thanks | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | They seem to be targetting people on skype asking for cash, buggers | Aug 02 20:37 |
| MinceR | i prefer Yakov Smirnoff | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | I usually get viagra spam | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | This one is not a bot | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Just a very stupid sult | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | *cult | Aug 02 20:37 |
| schestowitz | I remember when TurboHercules tried to do that | Aug 02 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I'll just dump skype | Aug 02 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Too much spam | Aug 02 20:38 |
| MinceR | and too much malware | Aug 02 20:44 |
| MinceR | skype is a botnet | Aug 02 20:44 |
| schestowitz | It is | Aug 02 20:44 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Aug 02 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Some people I speak to use it and not skiga | Aug 02 20:45 |
| schestowitz | I tried to have them use ekiga/SIP | Aug 02 20:45 |
| MinceR | can they type? | Aug 02 20:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: skype might go free one day, but it'll still be a mess | Aug 02 20:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they can | Aug 02 20:46 |
| MinceR | it won't go free, ever | Aug 02 20:46 |
| MinceR | if they can type then they can use IRC or Jabber | Aug 02 20:46 |
| schestowitz | But I want to do this while I read something else or watch a movie | Aug 02 20:46 |
| schestowitz | I can talk while doing other work | Aug 02 20:46 |
| MinceR | they don't have to get off their asses to fix their router for those | Aug 02 20:46 |
| MinceR | though if their router is infected with upnp, chances are SIP and H.323 can Just Work too | Aug 02 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Same reason I use audiocasts BTW | Aug 02 20:47 |
| schestowitz | I can listen to them while in shower or doing 'mechanical' routines on the PC | Aug 02 20:47 |
| MinceR | you can understand 2 voice streams at once? | Aug 02 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Nope | Aug 02 20:48 |
| schestowitz | I don't mix similar signals | Aug 02 20:48 |
| schestowitz | You could delete files from your HDD while talking | Aug 02 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Or format a document | Aug 02 20:48 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 02 20:57 |
| MinceR | but you can pay attention to both text you're reading and a movie you're watching and listening to? | Aug 02 20:57 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz | Not reading | Aug 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz | There's that whole vocal/visual/motoric separation | Aug 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz | So you can watch something while talking and listening | Aug 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz | You can't talk and listen at the same time | Aug 02 21:07 |
| MinceR | right | Aug 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz | It's like using the same processor core of something | Aug 02 21:07 |
| MinceR | well, talking and listening can be parallelized to some extent | Aug 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz | If you do something 'mechanical' that too is something the brain doesn't need 'thinking' about, like playing ping-pong | Aug 02 21:08 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: depends | Aug 02 21:08 |
| schestowitz | If you sing it's OK | Aug 02 21:08 |
| MinceR | you can also walk and type on a thumbboard at the same time :> | Aug 02 21:08 |
| schestowitz | He lyrics flow | Aug 02 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Not if you process and prepare sequence of words or analyse | Aug 02 21:08 |
| MinceR | well, i can catch some speech i hear while talking | Aug 02 21:08 |
| schestowitz | You can talk well while listening to music | Aug 02 21:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yuhoung can too | Aug 02 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Cause he's like a parrot | Aug 02 21:09 |
| MinceR | yuhong is a muppet | Aug 02 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/qaCls/ " | Aug 03 07:03 |
| schestowitz | 1. | Aug 03 07:03 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't mean for this to go into the queue. Sorry, that happened by accident. Don't watch if you have kids in the room, as the video has some valugar language. | Aug 03 07:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 03 07:03 |
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| schestowitz | > Re: why is this BS .. | Aug 03 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > "Yes, IE was industry-leading back in late 90s. Maybe you've forgotten | Aug 03 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > the travesty that was Netscape 4, but some of us haven't." | Aug 03 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 03 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1739744&cid=33109026 | Aug 03 10:20 |
| schestowitz | This is exactly the talking point I've been hearing from just about every Microsoft apologist I've come across. They say that Netscape killed itself and maybe they just repeat something they read somewhere, potentially from Rob Enderle and other propagandists/revisionists. | Aug 03 10:20 |
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| schestowitz | "We hear little of our still struggling economy. Some talk of some kind of recovery and an end to the Recession but to the millions of un and underemployed there is no recovery To the millions who still face foreclosure, there is no recovery and to the millions still hungry there is absolutely no recovery." | Aug 03 11:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.goldmansachs666.com/2010/08/goldman-sachs-links-and-news-august-2.html | Aug 03 11:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHjH66gPhM4&feature=digest | Aug 03 12:51 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 03 12:51 |
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| schestowitz | "That Mr. David is monitoring the IRC logs and going after any mention of his person. Dented me 2x about chats from long time ago." | Aug 03 22:50 |
| MinceR | who said that? | Aug 03 22:57 |
| schestowitz | SOmeone from Identica | Aug 03 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | "i always assume you know about these things already :) (yes, all of them) still it's nice to contribute one. i love python of course, and i think it's extremely scummy to get people to switch to something designed for entryi- well, that's obvious of course. cheers." | Aug 04 10:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jamies-mostly-linux-stuff-10006480/windows-7-loses-on-tablets-10018177/ | Aug 04 11:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Windows 7 Loses on Tablets | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 34.69 KB | Aug 04 11:19 |
| schestowitz | ZDNET: "Here's an interesting article in Tech Republic about Microsoft's lack of a tablet strategy, and complete loss in the tablet market. So in spite of Bozo the Clown jumping up and down doing his monkey-dance and claiming that "Microsoft" had several Windows 7 tablets coming out in 2010 that would beat Apple to the market, what they ended up with, predictably, was a big fat ZERO." | Aug 04 11:19 |
| schestowitz | image | Aug 04 11:47 |
| oiaohm | MS did have many for 2010 | Aug 04 13:44 |
| oiaohm | That was before android struck. | Aug 04 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Pushing OS price on tablets to basically zero | Aug 04 13:45 |
| MinceR | how? GNU/Linux was already available for years | Aug 04 13:51 |
| oiaohm | GNU/Linux lacked the marketing Google put in. | Aug 04 13:53 |
| MinceR | the OS price was 0, though | Aug 04 13:53 |
| oiaohm | And the google kick backs from the google app store. | Aug 04 13:53 |
| oiaohm | I should have said negitive. MinceR | Aug 04 13:53 |
| MinceR | that's called "android market" :> | Aug 04 13:54 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 04 13:54 |
| oiaohm | Basically when you buy apps from the android store the device maker can get kick backs from google for the apps you aquired. | Aug 04 13:54 |
| oiaohm | Reason why the next version of windows has to have a appstore without it MS cannot compete. | Aug 04 13:55 |
| MinceR | ew. | Aug 04 13:57 |
| oiaohm | I said this long ago one of Linux big issues is that crap ware anti-viruses and the like dont' instlal on it well | Aug 04 13:59 |
| oiaohm | So allowing kickbacks to under cut MS. | Aug 04 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Major oems charge for every bit of crapware that is on the machine you get MinceR | Aug 04 14:00 |
| MinceR | i know | Aug 04 14:00 |
| MinceR | but it's disgusting | Aug 04 14:01 |
| oiaohm | I know it disgusting but it the way it is. | Aug 04 14:01 |
| MinceR | and even more so if a Linux-based, supposedly Free platform gets it too | Aug 04 14:01 |
| MinceR | (even if it's a retarded android) | Aug 04 14:01 |
| oiaohm | Its the only way to win the war effectively. | Aug 04 14:01 |
| oiaohm | Once we win then we can get rid of the crap. | Aug 04 14:02 |
| MinceR | can we? | Aug 04 14:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes we can. | Aug 04 14:02 |
| MinceR | will the oems and the crapware authors and google let us? | Aug 04 14:02 |
| oiaohm | Have you noticed oem don't include crapware video editors since windows all ready includes one. | Aug 04 14:03 |
| MinceR | nope | Aug 04 14:03 |
| MinceR | didn't check | Aug 04 14:03 |
| oiaohm | Most likely crapware to be added to Linux is anti-virus | Aug 04 14:04 |
| oiaohm | and that will be about it. | Aug 04 14:04 |
| MinceR | it already has ClamAV :> | Aug 04 14:04 |
| oiaohm | Reason there is enough duplicate applications. | Aug 04 14:04 |
| MinceR | that makes AV duplicates as well | Aug 04 14:04 |
| oiaohm | There is no such thing as an Anti-virus that catches everything. | Aug 04 14:04 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 04 14:04 |
| MinceR | and apps that have all the features of every competitor are extremely rare | Aug 04 14:05 |
| oiaohm | So OEM can make a execuse of trying to pretect end user. | Aug 04 14:05 |
| oiaohm | By providing duplication. | Aug 04 14:05 |
| MinceR | we'll see | Aug 04 14:05 |
| oiaohm | Where in most other cases the OEM on Linux will just look like a idiot. | Aug 04 14:05 |
| oiaohm | Ie shipping with nero on Linux basically does not happen. | Aug 04 14:05 |
| oiaohm | Because native burning programs is better. | Aug 04 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Really it would do the open source world good to have to compete. | Aug 04 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Notice the android store is having the issue that its getting insanely hard to find apps. MinceR | Aug 04 14:09 |
| oiaohm | Too many duplicates | Aug 04 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Does anyone here speak Spanish? http://identi.ca/conversation/44706309#notice-45028255 image | Aug 04 15:06 |
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| schestowitz | I don't know what it's about | Aug 04 15:06 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/44707310#notice-45028475 "*computing* ... o'reilly is a major/primary sponsor of oscon?" | Aug 04 15:07 |
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| schestowitz | OSCON is O'Reilly's events which has outside sponsors, AFAIK | Aug 04 15:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/321035 "@markshuttlecock actually steve ballmer keeps them in a shoebox over his toilet, then his butler leaks them to julian assange, who puts them on wikileaks, and then @schestowitz tells me about them. long live assange!" | Aug 04 15:46 |
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| MinceR | rotfl | Aug 04 15:47 |
| MinceR | why don't you link this on the main channel? :> | Aug 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | "markshuttlecock" | Aug 04 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Troll | Aug 04 15:52 |
| MinceR | i know | Aug 04 15:52 |
| MinceR | but it's a funny troll | Aug 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Florian and anti-FSF guys say IBM paid Groklaw http://techrights.org/2010/08/04/rms-on-oscon/#comment-96603 | Aug 04 17:31 |
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| MinceR | why does ibm pay a crApple fansite? | Aug 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I've just alerted her | Aug 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | One is a nym/minion of the ACCESS troll | Aug 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | I've just caught up with the Apple thread I stated in Groklaw | Aug 04 17:46 |
| schestowitz | It's huge: http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20100727160332817&title=Defending%20Apple&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=0#c864998 | Aug 04 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Codepope/statuses/20309061743 "Can you convince @openuniverse to retweet his dents? From over here it's like listening to someone on the phone :) | Aug 04 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | "education is what o'reilly is selling. not fud. esr is a fud master." http://twitter.com/stevejberry/statuses/20308199656 | Aug 04 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/321437 "he couldn't be suggesting that i use the horrible t-word, could he? i obviously misunderstand, maybe you could explain. (p.s. i was @openuniverse on t-word looong before joining status.net- but i left for friendfeed and then left friendfeed when bookface bought them)" | Aug 04 19:52 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Wednesday, 04-Aug-10 18:02:10 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 8.17 KB | Aug 04 19:52 |
| schestowitz | ORLY gets some spanking today | Aug 04 19:52 |
| schestowitz | In identica | Aug 04 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Cause RMS named OSCON | Aug 04 19:52 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jstedfast/statuses/20326022056 "@FOSSpatents once #boycottboy decides you are guilty, he just smears you. Not worth your time arguing with him. He has almost no readership." | Aug 04 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | Novell employee | Aug 04 20:30 |
| schestowitz | "This person has protected their tweets." | Aug 04 20:56 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* he blocked me | Aug 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Novell employee: "@schestowitz doesn't change that fact that no one in the FOSS community respects you. Don't believe me? Go to any FOSS conf." | Aug 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Mono | Aug 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | "might also try applying for a job at any FOSS company. You won't get hired. Guaranteed. Meanwhile, any Mono dev would be." | Aug 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Mono Mono :-) | Aug 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | "... as has been proven time and time again." | Aug 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | ?? | Aug 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Really? | Aug 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | I responded to the FUD from Florian http://techrights.org/2010/08/04/fud-and-dirt-about-groklaw/ | Aug 04 21:49 |
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| MinceR | 230113 < ambossarm> I hope we get ubuntu to do what is right ;) | Aug 04 22:10 |
| MinceR | 230133 <@egns|> disappearing? | Aug 04 22:10 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/321986 "if there won't (as i mis/understand you) be a wave, and i haven't heard about knoll in a long, long time, what are these google profiles i see on identi.ca?" | Aug 04 23:09 |
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| MinceR | grassy gnoll? | Aug 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | :-| | Aug 04 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 05 15:12 |
| schestowitz | I am RMS (imrms) is now listening to your notices on Identi.ca. | Aug 05 15:12 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/imrms | Aug 05 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Location: Boston, MA | Aug 05 15:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: I am RMS (imrms) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 19.51 KB | Aug 05 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Homepage: http://www.gnu.org | Aug 05 15:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The GNU Operating System .::. Size~: 22.64 KB | Aug 05 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Bio: I would be the God of Free Software, if I wasn't an atheist. But I have a beard and long hair. | Aug 05 15:12 |
| schestowitz | If you believe this account is being used abusively, you can block them from your subscribers list and report as spam to site administrators at http://identi.ca/main/block/227721 | Aug 05 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Faithfully yours, | Aug 05 15:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 303 See Other .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 05 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Identi.ca. | Aug 05 15:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 05 15:13 |
| MinceR | you know what to do | Aug 05 15:13 |
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| MinceR | http://img.waffleimages.com/e3290c392e6b860c66a3cc9cd9caa5b0757a9fb6/p10.jpg | Aug 05 16:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/Advocacy-archive--forum-92.html | Aug 05 16:18 |
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| schestowitz | Right... I'm off. Clouds disperse outside | Aug 05 16:43 |
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| MinceR | there are after all many hungry pigs on this planet | Aug 05 22:21 |
| MinceR | and many power stations that would work just well with dried out human corpses | Aug 05 22:22 |
| schestowitz | What's the ideal human population size, in your eyes? | Aug 05 22:23 |
| schestowitz | I say 60 million, within a century maybe | Aug 05 22:23 |
| MinceR | not sure | Aug 05 22:24 |
| MinceR | i think we could start with 6 million | Aug 05 22:24 |
| schestowitz | You could have enough people to preserve existing knowledge and farming is easy peasy with so much land and technology, so it can be automated | Aug 05 22:24 |
| MinceR | well, 60 million could work too | Aug 05 22:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 6 million to handle many items of literature | Aug 05 22:24 |
| MinceR | yes, once we get rid of the idiots we can automate everything | Aug 05 22:24 |
| schestowitz | You must keep all existing knowledge and practice it to sustain intelligent life and advance it | Aug 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | I don't think I want to have kids, but I might change my mind one dau | Aug 05 22:25 |
| MinceR | not if you can document it well enough | Aug 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Everyone is polluting the planet anyway | Aug 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Depends. | Aug 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | You need to also back it up in places | Aug 05 22:25 |
| MinceR | intelligent people deciding not to have kids isn't going to do the job | Aug 05 22:25 |
| MinceR | it will only lead to idiocracy | Aug 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Asteroid collisions | Aug 05 22:26 |
| MinceR | idiots must be actively kept from reproducing | Aug 05 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Underwater cables etc. | Aug 05 22:26 |
| MinceR | or this biosphere is doomed | Aug 05 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Japan is already ahead of the curve | Aug 05 22:26 |
| schestowitz | [22:26] <MinceR> idiots must be actively kept from reproducing | Aug 05 22:26 |
| schestowitz | It's idiots who make most people | Aug 05 22:26 |
| schestowitz | That's becuase they're idiots | Aug 05 22:26 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 05 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the Great Depression will force them to stop | Aug 05 22:27 |
| MinceR | and that's why the passive approach won't work | Aug 05 22:27 |
| schestowitz | But bread is cheap | Aug 05 22:27 |
| MinceR | we shouldn't pay people to reproduce, for one thing | Aug 05 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Relligious families here just pray and toss bread at the baby machines/kids | Aug 05 22:27 |
| schestowitz | We're heading towards bad situations | Aug 05 22:28 |
| schestowitz | http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/6809 | Aug 05 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Our lifetime too | Aug 05 22:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Oil Drum: Europe | Peak Capital - Our Ultimate Limit? .::. Size~: 231.83 KB | Aug 05 22:28 |
| schestowitz | The troll turned the other IRC channel into Windows-discuss | Aug 05 22:29 |
| handheldcar | lots of free time today, wish I could start on autumn homework | Aug 05 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Nicer weather here too | Aug 05 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Went out with a friend | Aug 05 22:33 |
| schestowitz | We're so lucky it's too cold here | Aug 05 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Since June | Aug 05 22:34 |
| schestowitz | The rest of the world melts | Aug 05 22:34 |
| ender2070 | why dont you guys sterilize yourselves if you're worried about over population | Aug 06 02:24 |
| ender2070 | a few less liberals will do this planet some good | Aug 06 02:24 |
| ender2070 | :P | Aug 06 02:24 |
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| schestowitz | me tempted to send an E-mail to Google about Verizon | Aug 06 09:09 |
| MinceR | ender2070: watch Idiocracy | Aug 06 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | Re: our business model will succeed says Murdoch | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > "We can deliver our content to our readers when, where and how they | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > want it. It's cheap, convenient and constantly up-to-date,'' | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > But we don't want to read any content by a TIT merchant .. | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > "The argument that information wants to be free is only said by those | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > who want it for free,'' | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > Free, as in free from control, by people like you, a TIT merchant | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 11:24 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/new-online-business-model-will-succeed-says-rupert-murdoch/story-e6frg996-1225900511922 | Aug 06 11:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: New online business model will succeed, says Rupert Murdoch | The Australian .::. Size~: 56.73 KB | Aug 06 11:24 |
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| ender2070 | [04:38] <MinceR> ender2070: watch Idiocracy | Aug 06 12:02 |
| ender2070 | seen it | Aug 06 12:02 |
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| schestowitz | Ra FTW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSffJCplfGM&feature=digest | Aug 06 12:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://tweetmeme.com/story/1901287856/big-polluter-bp-and-gnu-linux-migration-techrights | Aug 06 12:32 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Big Polluter (BP) and GNU/Linux Migration | Techrights .::. Size~: 36.08 KB | Aug 06 12:32 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp3OKIU8My8&feature=digest | Aug 06 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 06 19:00 |
| schestowitz | roy? | Aug 06 19:00 |
| schestowitz | [08:17:26] Asaf Schestowitz: did you heard about Bil Gates? | Aug 06 19:00 |
| schestowitz | [08:17:44] Asaf Schestowitz: he said he will contribute half of his fortune? | Aug 06 19:00 |
| schestowitz | [08:17:54] Asaf Schestowitz: what is the catch? | Aug 06 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Friday 06 August 2010 | Aug 06 19:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 06 19:00 |
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| schestowitz | I've just realised that best president appointment would be old black muslin lesbian | Aug 07 09:38 |
| schestowitz | This way, anyone criticising the president is racist, age-discriminating, lslamophobic, misogynist homophob. | Aug 07 09:40 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45006422#notice-45351529 "@schestowitz entering the public domain? (not that we'd WANT any of that shite)" | Aug 07 12:49 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.1 KB | Aug 07 12:49 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I find it strange that MS paid for air time here to advertise their online products. schestowitz | Aug 07 13:17 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: where is "here"? | Aug 07 13:24 |
| schestowitz | IRC? | Aug 07 13:24 |
| oiaohm | Australia on Australian Public Tv | Aug 07 13:25 |
| schestowitz | Ah, probably Bong | Aug 07 13:25 |
| schestowitz | We have those ads too | Aug 07 13:25 |
| oiaohm | No MSN messager and Hotmail | Aug 07 13:25 |
| oiaohm | Yes really strange. | Aug 07 13:26 |
| oiaohm | Also in prime time. | Aug 07 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Money down the drain | Aug 07 13:27 |
| oiaohm | I find it strange. | Aug 07 13:29 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2010/08/google-wave-is-destined-to-be-dodo-says.html | Aug 07 13:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google Wave is destined to be a Dodo - Says Google | All about Linux .::. Size~: 35.99 KB | Aug 07 13:30 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/04/varied-flights-of-ubuntu-dapper-drake.html | Aug 07 13:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The varied flights of Ubuntu Dapper Drake | All about Linux .::. Size~: 49.58 KB | Aug 07 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Remember it? | Aug 07 13:31 |
| oiaohm | Google has very few failures. | Aug 07 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Most google projects pay fruit. | Aug 07 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Heck the funny thing is most google project that pay fruit they not try to make the pay fruit. | Aug 07 13:33 |
| oiaohm | chrome was a classic example of it. | Aug 07 13:33 |
| oiaohm | What was wave mistake Google tried to force it into existance. | Aug 07 13:37 |
| oiaohm | Its just not google way that leads to valueable products | Aug 07 13:37 |
| schestowitz | I have a post coming about Google.. | Aug 07 13:45 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45021111#notice-45355519 "but now there is MeeGo/Maemo :D" | Aug 07 13:48 |
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| schestowitz | yes, but I doubt it'll ever catch up w/ Android | Aug 07 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Too soon to say. schestowitz | Aug 07 13:50 |
| oiaohm | Android could clear out all the pure closed source OS's out of phones. | Aug 07 13:51 |
| oiaohm | So leaving ground for meego | Aug 07 13:51 |
| oiaohm | paritucally allowing for google play to merge android kernel alterations back into main kernel schestowitz | Aug 07 13:52 |
| oiaohm | Ie Meego and Android will basically in time be blood brothers able to share the same hardware. | Aug 07 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Good point | Aug 07 13:55 |
| oiaohm | Everyone keeps on thinking that meego and android will be vs each other. | Aug 07 13:56 |
| oiaohm | Not like google cares what OS people run as long as they can make profit from advertising. | Aug 07 13:57 |
| schestowitz | profiling | Aug 07 13:57 |
| oiaohm | OS X locks google out. | Aug 07 13:58 |
| oiaohm | MS dirty tricks to keep there search engine in with a chance. | Aug 07 13:58 |
| oiaohm | Now if google want to screw up most news sites they could join meego | Aug 07 13:59 |
| oiaohm | Really I should suggest that to them. | Aug 07 13:59 |
| oiaohm | Since intel works on useful kernel alterations for google in the meego project. | Aug 07 14:00 |
| oiaohm | my connection is a bit slow at the moment. Only Over my monthly quota by double. Ie downloaded tripple the ammount I should have. | Aug 07 14:08 |
| schestowitz | WHat did you d/l? | Aug 07 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Lots of different stuff schestowitz | Aug 07 14:13 |
| oiaohm | My monthly quote resets in 2 days. | Aug 07 14:14 |
| oiaohm | I recently had a distrobution testing runing clearos ebox and releated. | Aug 07 14:14 |
| oiaohm | Also been testing out quite a few different web platforms. | Aug 07 14:14 |
| oiaohm | Deleted my master iso directory by mistake. | Aug 07 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Twice | Aug 07 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Ie off main harddrive and backup. | Aug 07 14:15 |
| schestowitz | I haven't had caps since 2001 | Aug 07 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Not a good month. | Aug 07 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Replacing my master iso directory is over 30 GB. | Aug 07 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Luckly I did not damage my template directory for all my customs. | Aug 07 14:16 |
| oiaohm | For future stupidly prevention I have created a seperate user for all my critical files. | Aug 07 14:17 |
| oiaohm | I did get a phone call from my ISP wanting to know what the hell was going on schestowitz | Aug 07 14:21 |
| oiaohm | I had not broken quota in 12 months. schestowitz | Aug 07 14:21 |
| oiaohm | Then all out blue I am halfway threw the month and I have busted it and my download rate is double to treble normal. | Aug 07 14:22 |
| oiaohm | With no signs of slowing down. | Aug 07 14:22 |
| oiaohm | N | Aug 07 14:33 |
| oiaohm | Scary part is that I have downloaded 3 times my open internet quota and 4 times my normal free usage in 1 month. | Aug 07 14:34 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/new?replyto=ruiseabra&inreplyto=45359257 "@schestowitz: I find !android security to suck a lot with huge clear examples of false sense of security!" | Aug 07 14:34 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: does your boss pay? | Aug 07 14:35 |
| oiaohm | This is my home account. | Aug 07 14:35 |
| oiaohm | My work account is unlimited. | Aug 07 14:35 |
| schestowitz | OK.. | Aug 07 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Yes I truly mean unlimited. | Aug 07 14:35 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/45359461 "Hmmm, no idea. Both have advantages and disadvantages, the future will tell. But Nokia DOES ship huge nr of devices on its own" | Aug 07 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Fiber line 40 Gb per sec | Aug 07 14:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet)'s status on Saturday, 07-Aug-10 13:24:02 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.48 KB | Aug 07 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Symbian ones | Aug 07 14:36 |
| oiaohm | And that is for the It work room alone. | Aug 07 14:36 |
| oiaohm | I only have standard adsl 1 connection at home. | Aug 07 14:37 |
| oiaohm | Nokia also makes devices for some other makers as well schestowitz | Aug 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Oh, i see... | Aug 07 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Any Androids? | Aug 07 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Not at this stage. schestowitz | Aug 07 15:03 |
| schestowitz | They might have to | Aug 07 15:22 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/45351533 "Absolutely agree! Choice is important. Its pretty evident with whats happening with android base phones outselling the iPhone" | Aug 07 15:23 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Anoj Perera (pyrus)'s status on Saturday, 07-Aug-10 11:29:07 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.96 KB | Aug 07 15:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 15:29 |
| schestowitz | I hardly use E-mail anymore. People whom I know and speak to use | Aug 07 15:29 |
| schestowitz | platforms like identi.ca to communicate out in the open and have debates | Aug 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | that expose them to no discomforting leak (a la Wikileaks). Moreover, | Aug 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | there is a sense of better privacy because the platform has IPs | Aug 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | displayed only to the administrator. Yours for example shows the IP | Aug 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | address as "mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53])". I am trying to | Aug 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | quit E-mail altogether. Knuth has good tips on that. | Aug 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | I hardly use E-mail anymore. People whom I know and speak to use platforms like identi.ca to communicate out in the open and have debates that expose them to no discomforting leak (a la Wikileaks). Moreover, there is a sense of better privacy because the platform has IPs displayed only to the administrator. I am trying to quit E-mail altogether. Knuth has good tips on that. | Aug 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | Oops. Dupe | Aug 07 15:30 |
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| schestowitz | I need to figure out how to channel my E-mail. I remember when someone routed via someone else's machine, but it's reliant on another party. Can Google handle non @gmail.com accounts? | Aug 07 20:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/20576999917 "@jonobacon Get ready for the slog from #BoycottBoy and attack poodles, coming to a screen near you really soon. Heathen! :)" | Aug 07 23:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / verofakto: @jonobacon Get ready for t ... .::. Size~: 11.77 KB | Aug 07 23:21 |
| schestowitz | The stalkking troll | Aug 07 23:21 |
| MinceR | interesting | Aug 07 23:22 |
| schestowitz | I lose track of who's whohttp://identi.ca/notice/45394814 "it used to contain interesting stuff but it's harder nowadays" | Aug 07 23:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Rui Seabra (ruiseabra)'s status on Saturday, 07-Aug-10 22:11:50 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.06 KB | Aug 07 23:22 |
| MinceR | anti-floss troll cuddling up to the canonical guy? | Aug 07 23:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that guy does deep probing into my personal life | Aug 07 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Like it's his job | Aug 07 23:22 |
| schestowitz | the dude from Redmond is retarded | Aug 07 23:25 |
| schestowitz | [23:24] <yuhong> ThistleWeb: I know that Windows is closed. | Aug 07 23:25 |
| schestowitz | [23:24] <schestowitz> Awwwwwwwghhhhhh | Aug 07 23:25 |
| schestowitz | [23:24] <yuhong> MinceR: I know that Windows is closed. | Aug 07 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Now he gain sympathy | Aug 07 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Next he promotes Windows Vista or something | Aug 07 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Mingle and stab, repeat | Aug 07 23:25 |
| MinceR | he isn't doing the "gain sympathy" part right | Aug 07 23:26 |
| MinceR | i doubt he's fooling anyonne | Aug 07 23:26 |
| MinceR | s/nn/n/ | Aug 07 23:26 |
| schestowitz | It's weird | Aug 07 23:26 |
| schestowitz | And it wastes people's time | Aug 07 23:27 |
| schestowitz | An old admin kicked him the first day he showed up 2 years ago | Aug 07 23:27 |
| schestowitz | I'm too merciful | Aug 07 23:27 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 07 23:31 |
| schestowitz | It works in my favour sometimes | Aug 07 23:31 |
| schestowitz | People know i don't hide opposition | Aug 07 23:31 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45057982#notice-45396063 "@schestowitz i dunno- have you seen the film "quills?"" | Aug 07 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | Have you? | Aug 07 23:43 |
| schestowitz | I have no idea what this film is | Aug 07 23:43 |
| MinceR | nope | Aug 07 23:46 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45067095#notice-45398479 " nevermind, it was a throwaway reference in response to a rhetorical question" | Aug 08 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/20590948026 "BTW, Ryan is an ex-MSMVP, a breed of 'vile' people according to #BoycottBoy... lulz" | Aug 08 06:53 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / verofakto: @jonobacon BTW, Ryan is an ... .::. Size~: 11.8 KB | Aug 08 06:54 |
| schestowitz | KKKops | Aug 08 06:54 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/20604304040 " http://j.mp/bkQvon If this is what #BoycottBoy staff think of @DaemonFC, why should anyone pay attn to what he has to say about @jonobacon?" | Aug 08 09:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / verofakto: http://j.mp/bkQvon If this ... .::. Size~: 11.95 KB | Aug 08 09:48 |
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| schestowitz | Now we have staff? | Aug 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz | Notice how the netkkkops try to incite against us | Aug 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/20604370776 "By the way, that's what #BoycottBoy calls the five guys logged into his chat room, they're the 'staff' http://j.mp/8NUqt1" | Aug 08 09:49 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / verofakto: By the way, that's what #B ... .::. Size~: 11.79 KB | Aug 08 09:49 |
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| schestowitz | that nym never talks | Aug 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Not even in other IRC channels http://kwzs.be/~bot/warzone.php?time=86400:172800 | Aug 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20100730 | Aug 08 11:54 |
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| schestowitz | Ah. | Aug 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | He does talk sometimes: http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/04/ubuntu-is-a-poor-standard-bear.html | Aug 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | See comments | Aug 08 12:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/202681/microsoft_windows_vista.html Vista???? | Aug 08 18:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Windows Vista - PCWorld .::. Size~: 48.91 KB | Aug 08 18:31 |
| schestowitz | "The Great Operating System Games" | Aug 08 18:31 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Aug 08 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I still see the same lie about it passing Vista7 | Aug 08 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about this already | Aug 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Stupid 'journalists' | Aug 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Tony Bradley hypnosis http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/202375/five_secrets_to_windows_7_success.html?tk=hp_blg | Aug 08 18:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Five Secrets to Windows 7 Success - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 66.44 KB | Aug 08 18:36 |
| schestowitz | They push the 'norm' that it was a "success" this way | Aug 08 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Without being critical thinkers at allll | Aug 08 18:36 |
| schestowitz | But Bradley is a know fan of Microsoft... | Aug 08 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Preston Gralla with the same trick: http://blogs.computerworld.com/16656/five_reasons_windows_xp_still_rules_the_desktop?source=rss_blogs | Aug 08 18:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Five reasons Windows XP still rules the desktop - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 67.16 KB | Aug 08 18:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9180181/Acer_debuts_new_dual_Android_Windows_XP_netbook | Aug 08 18:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Acer debuts new dual Android, Windows XP netbook - Computerworld .::. Size~: 76.73 KB | Aug 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | [19:37] <jono> which employee was it? | Aug 08 19:39 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 08 19:39 |
| MinceR | 192249 < schestowitz> "The Great Operating System Games" | Aug 08 21:44 |
| MinceR | so that's what winblows is! | Aug 08 21:44 |
| schestowitz | I know! | Aug 08 21:44 |
| MinceR | an Operating System Game. | Aug 08 21:44 |
| MinceR | also, apparently Canonical is the new Novell. | Aug 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Aug 08 22:06 |
| MinceR | and ubuntu is the new suse | Aug 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | No smoking gun yet | Aug 08 22:06 |
| MinceR | just knives everywhere | Aug 08 22:06 |
| MinceR | also, if you're consideromgbanning DaemonFC, why isn't yuhong banned yet? :> | Aug 08 22:09 |
| MinceR | s/omg/ing / | Aug 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | He's a kid | Aug 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | I can't bad kids | Aug 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | *ban | Aug 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | I hate making people miserable, unless they make others miserable (like Microsoft/Apple) | Aug 08 22:09 |
| MinceR | yuhong helps m$ make people miserable | Aug 08 22:10 |
| MinceR | like all m$ apologists | Aug 08 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Let's write a policy. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IRC_Policy | Aug 08 22:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: IRC Policy - Techrights .::. Size~: 10.48 KB | Aug 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | One that doesn't tolerate time wasters who lie | Aug 08 22:13 |
| schestowitz | "Judas" has his full name now | Aug 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | It's not a troll, doesn't seem like it at all | Aug 08 22:18 |
| MinceR | well, i don't remember seeing him talking, so he probably didn't do any trolling | Aug 08 22:21 |
| MinceR | he could be a spy though :> | Aug 08 22:21 |
| MinceR | like benJIman | Aug 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | I can't ban Ben | Aug 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | It would look very bad | Aug 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Banning based on prejudice/intent | Aug 08 22:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 08 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/20673787483 "#BoycottBoy has the bestest friends http://j.mp/9I4kZX These are the people who 'defend freedom'.. #scared yet?" | Aug 09 07:02 |
| schestowitz | The troll | Aug 09 07:02 |
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| oiaohm | Really the sad part is that they don't get it yet. | Aug 09 07:04 |
| oiaohm | All of us have been attacked over the years. | Aug 09 07:04 |
| oiaohm | And paid the price for not following the ways of freedom. | Aug 09 07:04 |
| schestowitz | Now I'm worried about ryan | Aug 09 07:05 |
| schestowitz | He deleted his blog and twitter account | Aug 09 07:05 |
| schestowitz | He could endanger someone | Aug 09 07:05 |
| oiaohm | I am more worried about himself than others. | Aug 09 07:07 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 09 07:07 |
| oiaohm | any clue what started the daemonfc disappearing act? | Aug 09 07:54 |
| oiaohm | Boy synaptic package manger is trying to screw with me. Showing files as 100 percent even before it starts downloading them. | Aug 09 07:55 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: we pushed him out after he insulted jono | Aug 09 08:04 |
| schestowitz | He was having psychological treatment he was referred to | Aug 09 08:06 |
| schestowitz | So I tried hard not to push him over the edge | Aug 09 08:06 |
| schestowitz | That's why I'm worried | Aug 09 08:06 |
| schestowitz | He lost a lot of what he had | Aug 09 08:06 |
| schestowitz | Broke | Aug 09 08:06 |
| schestowitz | It reminds me of when I break out with a girl | Aug 09 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Then I worry about what she might do | Aug 09 08:07 |
| oiaohm | Boy is must be mental break month. | Aug 09 08:08 |
| oiaohm | I was bit badly broken last month due to being stuck inbetween a rock and a hard place. | Aug 09 08:09 |
| oiaohm | A few people I knew though they could write some magical contract that would allow them to have my tech skill and do copyright infringement at the same time. | Aug 09 08:09 |
| oiaohm | They cannot understand why I will not even talk to them. The hard part was friends with them for over 8 years. | Aug 09 08:10 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: can you give me a link to the "podcast" where jono attacked TR? | Aug 09 10:38 |
| schestowitz | Sure.. | Aug 09 10:38 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2009/10/18/me-on-twit-tv/ | Aug 09 10:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45210544#notice-45546581 "@schestowitz any idea of whom would be the new CEO, after Ballmer? Image what would happen if they'd started doing MS/Linux :S ;-)" | Aug 09 10:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.21 KB | Aug 09 10:42 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Mundie. | Aug 09 10:43 |
| MinceR | thx | Aug 09 10:44 |
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| schestowitz | > Terry Childs the sysadmin who didn't locked the city out its own network | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/09/san_francisco_childs/ | Aug 09 11:27 |
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| schestowitz | > ------- | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > Sorting out fact from fiction in the Terry Childs case | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > http://ca.tech.yahoo.com/news/infoworld/article/453 | Aug 09 11:27 |
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| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > .. the city had claimed it could not access the FiberWAN network's | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > devices. But four days before that bail hearing, the city claimed it | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > had scheduled a power outage at the 1 Market Street datacenter. That | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > power outage would have affected routers and switches running the | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > FiberWAN network. | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > In the court filing four days later, the city contended that Childs | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > had "booby-trapped" the network to collapse during this power outage | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > by not writing the device configurations to flash on some number of | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > routers. A local news report stated that "experts caught the problem | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > in time and transferred data to permanent files, [Assistant DA Conrad] | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > del Rosario said." | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > This statement contradicts the city's stance that it had no access to | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > these routers, as there is no way it could have written those | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > configurations to flash, or save them anywhere, on July 19 if it could | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > not access the devices .. | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > ------- | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > The confrontation that started the standoff | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/255165/sorting_facts_terry_childs_case/?fp=2&pf=1&fpid=1 | Aug 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > "On Friday, June 20, there was an altercation between Childs and Jeana | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > Pieralde, the new DTIS security manager at the 1 Market Street | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > datacenter in San Francisco. Until her promotion, she had been a city | Aug 09 11:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Sorting out the facts in the Terry Childs case - Computerworld .::. Size~: 79.3 KB | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > network engineer who worked with Childs" | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > "Childs disputed this interpretation of events, claiming in court | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > documents that Pieralde was conducting clandestine searches of DTIS | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > employee workspaces and had removed a hard drive from an office when | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > he confronted her. He also denied taking photos of Pieralde" | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > "the city stated that Childs was placed under surveillance | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > [infoworld.com] and was arrested on the evening of July 12 as he was | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > parking his vehicle near his home in the suburb of Pittsburg. At the | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > time of his arrest, he was found to have $10,000 cash on his person | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > and receipts showing that he had traveled to Sparks, Nevada, where he | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > had looked at renting storage units. Following his arrest, police | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > searched his house and workspaces. Police turned up 9mm and .45 | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > caliber bullets, but apparently no weapons" | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > "Considering that normal bail for a murder case is $1 million -- one | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > fifth of what Childs' bail was set at -- this filing was unexpected" | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > ------- | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > "it is a mystery what exactly Jeana Pieralde was doing performing an | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > unannounced, after-hours "security audit" in a City office other than | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > that in which she herself worked. It was during that secret "security | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > audit" on the evening of Friday, June 20th, 2008, in which Jeana | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > Pieralde took a hard drive from another City employee's office and was | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > photographed by Terry Childs as she did so" | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > "The office from which Pieralde removed the hard drive belonged to | Aug 09 11:28 |
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| schestowitz | > DTIS Security Officer Nancy Hastings (who naturally was not present in | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > the office because the "security audit" was being conducted after | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > hours.)" "Terry Childs had returned late to the offices (which do | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > include his office and do not include Jeana Pieralde's office) at | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > about 5:15 P.M. to find Jeana Pieralde (who does not work in those | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > offices) taking a hard drive [wordpress.com] from one of Terry's | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > co-workers offices. Terry photographed this act with the camera in his | Aug 09 11:28 |
| schestowitz | > cellphone" | Aug 09 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9180378/Apple_s_head_of_iPhone_engineering_out_after_Antennagate_?taxonomyId=12v | Aug 09 12:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Apple's head of iPhone engineering out after 'Antennagate' - Computerworld .::. Size~: 82.24 KB | Aug 09 12:37 |
| schestowitz | I think Google will go big in IBM (server) and Google (the rest) | Aug 09 12:38 |
| schestowitz | Not quite a hacker's win | Aug 09 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Google has a habit of building there own server hardware. | Aug 09 12:44 |
| schestowitz | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2010-08-07-n43.html | Aug 09 12:45 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Micro Drones for Google? .::. Size~: 6.02 KB | Aug 09 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Did you see it? | Aug 09 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Some of the custom boards google has got from gigabyte I would love to get hands on. | Aug 09 12:45 |
| oiaohm | On motherboard UPS's would so nice. | Aug 09 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Question how long until clear glass windows are no more. schestowitz | Aug 09 12:48 |
| oiaohm | And Mirror glass normal to give electronic eyes out. | Aug 09 12:48 |
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| schestowitz | Just spoken to jono on the phone for half an hour about Ryan | Aug 09 17:32 |
| schestowitz | We're not sure whether to report something to the police | Aug 09 17:33 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/irc-log-08082010.html#tAug%2008%2020:14:55 | Aug 09 17:33 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "Having a plan can be considered fantasizing I guess" | Aug 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/45582193 | Aug 09 17:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Laurel Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 09-Aug-10 16:25:35 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.89 KB | Aug 09 17:35 |
| schestowitz | "Thanks @schestowitz helped me see politics of fsf/opensource "People that care about freedom are not “normal” ~!q http://www.ur1.ca/11fhl" | Aug 09 17:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OMG! Ignorant! « The-Source.com .::. Size~: 57.13 KB | Aug 09 17:35 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/45582379 "@schestowitz It seems some don't care about ideas like freedom or the value of open source movement as much as "being the boss of it"" | Aug 09 18:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Laurel Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 09-Aug-10 16:28:21 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.54 KB | Aug 09 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <someone> DaemonFC is simply being a troll | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> I know | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> Bastard troll | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> I spoke to jono on the phone today | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:54] <schestowitz> He's a threat to people | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:54] <someone> just ignore or lightly go along joking at his remarks and he'll go into hiding again | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:54] <schestowitz> I don't want my channel to be associated with a to-be criminakl | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:54] <someone> trolls are an accepted part of the netscape, they're everywhere | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:54] <someone> just don't feed them | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:55] <schestowitz> I'll ignore him | Aug 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz |  | Aug 09 18:19 |
| schestowitz | [17:55] <someone> good, let us users take care of the rest. If you don't want to be tangled up in this trolls convo just don't bother responding or reciting them in the future | Aug 09 18:19 |
| schestowitz | [18:05] <jono> I just want to say thanks | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:05] <jono> I think we can really help Ryan | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:05] <jono> :) | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:06] <schestowitz> He needs people | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:06] <jono> I agree | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:06] <schestowitz> That's why he came back | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:06] <jono> now is a time for us to be friends for him | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:06] <jono> I am going to really try and reach out with him | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:06] <jono> be a friend and help him to be more productive | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:06] <jono> anyway, I just wanted to say thanks, and that I admired your humanity | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:08] <schestowitz> You tio. | Aug 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | [18:08] <schestowitz> Humanity for others | Aug 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | [18:08] <jono> :) | Aug 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | [18:08] * jono hi-fives schestowitz | Aug 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | [18:08] <jono> :-) | Aug 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | [18:09] <jono> right, now I need to try and clear up this mess that Benjamin has caused on omg!ubuntu | Aug 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | [18:09] <jono> *sigh* | Aug 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | [18:15] <schestowitz> It's because of ryan's recommendation that I moved from Mandriva to Kubuntu last year | Aug 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | [18:16] <jono> cool :) | Aug 09 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To1rQNk08jo | Aug 10 00:34 |
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| schestowitz | Loads of people link to the post about TED | Aug 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | Only one negative comment: | Aug 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | "|when you're pledging and giving billions, we can talk about how awful gates is. Till then? Stuff it." http://twitter.com/grobertson/statuses/20735882270 | Aug 10 06:50 |
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| MinceR | ah, a typical manifestation of belief in the Almighty Money | Aug 10 06:58 |
| MinceR | if you don't have billions, you can't speak | Aug 10 06:58 |
| schestowitz | I kniw... | Aug 10 07:02 |
| schestowitz | There will always be some brainwashed masses defending a criminal | Aug 10 07:02 |
| schestowitz | A few do listen and are open to new explanations | Aug 10 07:02 |
| schestowitz | ANyway, I got many positive comments about it, that's just the only one which was negative/not receptive | Aug 10 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Ew... http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2010/08/09/patenting-software-business-responsible/id=11509/ | Aug 10 07:14 |
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| schestowitz | It ended up in the Red Hat feed | Aug 10 07:14 |
| schestowitz | WatchTroll | Aug 10 07:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10888993 | Aug 10 07:15 |
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| schestowitz | Gotta love the irony | Aug 10 07:15 |
| schestowitz | I urgently need some high-resolution (full sized) photos for publication in a magazine. The ones from London would do. | Aug 10 07:39 |
| schestowitz | High Resolution Pictures.... I always downsize them | Aug 10 07:39 |
| schestowitz | Seems like we'll have an article...... | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:34] <jono_> the only requirement is that I will need three really hi-res images of you for the piece | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:34] <schestowitz> What piece? | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:35] <schestowitz> And how hi-res? | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:36] <jono_> I was thinking something about techrights | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:36] <schestowitz> Cool! | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:36] <jono_> the usual what is it, what is the mission, why did you rename it from BN | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:36] <schestowitz> BN was not my name | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:36] <jono_> the res would be at least 1800x1200 | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:36] <jono_> would that be doable? | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:37] <jono_> and about 1500 words of answers | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:37] <schestowitz> Of me? Let me look.. | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:37] <schestowitz> Sure. Sounds good. | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:37] <jono_> yeah, it would need to be of you | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:37] * schestowitz checks photos | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:37] <jono_> cool :) | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:37] <schestowitz> I have some from July (London) | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:38] <jono_> any time is fine, just the size is sometimes a blocker for some interviews | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:38] <jono_> do you think you could get the content to me this weeek? | Aug 10 08:15 |
| schestowitz | [07:40] <schestowitz> Sure! | Aug 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | [07:40] <jono_> legend :) | Aug 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | [07:40] <jono_> cool, I will send you some questions in a few mins | Aug 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | [07:41] <jono_> as with any interview, I can't promise it will get printed - LXF make the decision, but they rarely pull something | Aug 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | [07:41] <schestowitz> Thanks so muc | Aug 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | [07:41] <jono_> but if so, I will try and publish in another mag | Aug 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | [07:41] <schestowitz> *much | Aug 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | [07:41] <jono_> no worries, pal :) | Aug 10 08:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45348870#notice-45684975 "@schestowitz you too? Personally I'm willing to put up with a little spam (i have a great spam filter) for the ease of communication." | Aug 10 15:28 |
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| schestowitz | It'll still be usable, but only as fallback | Aug 10 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45349731#notice-45687349 "@schestowitz if you want 2 quietly tell someone they have an embarrassing typo or something email is always nicer (no you don't have a typo)" | Aug 10 16:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://time.org | Aug 10 16:19 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm... just testing something.... http://TechRights.org | Aug 10 16:20 |
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| schestowitz | last test | Aug 10 16:30 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Aug 10 16:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45317366#notice-45690015 "@schestowitz BestBuy, those Microsoft slaves, selling Linux OEM? no way! this is awesome! :) http://ur1.ca/11sgc" | Aug 10 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tomsguide.com/us/ps3-fire-burnt-melted-playstation,news-7691.html | Aug 10 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1518106,00.html | Aug 10 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | Oracle messes it up | Aug 10 19:08 |
| schestowitz | At least there's new VBox | Aug 10 19:08 |
| schestowitz | :-) http://hothardware.com/News/AMD%2DPokes%2DFun%2DOf%2DNVIDIAs%2DFermi%2DGPU%2DHeat%2DOutput%2DIn%2DThe%2DMisunderstanding%2DVideo/ | Aug 10 19:26 |
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| MinceR | perhaps amd should put the energy that goes into making fun of nvidia into writing drivers that don't suck instead | Aug 10 19:39 |
| schestowitz | They can't | Aug 10 19:42 |
| schestowitz | broke | Aug 10 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I still use nvidia binary | Aug 10 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I reckon when I next install a distro I'll use a free driver | Aug 10 19:42 |
| MinceR | i'm considering maintaining one laptop with an intel (non-powervr) GPU for general computing and one computer with an nvidia GPU for gaming and fullhd movies :> | Aug 10 19:45 |
| schestowitz | I thought you said mainframe laptop | Aug 10 19:46 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Florian would rip his hair off in anger | Aug 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45371075#notice-45707800 "@schestowitz Making policies on TR IRC ?" | Aug 10 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | See? People don't like that | Aug 10 20:27 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45371727#notice-45708239 "IMO, it should stay private to whom frequents it, not opened to outside scrutiny." | Aug 10 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | Ryan is taking the channel off topic again | Aug 10 21:32 |
| schestowitz | Watch what he's doing | Aug 10 21:32 |
| MinceR | oh noes, now he will be here as well :> | Aug 10 21:33 |
| schestowitz | In know, I don't expect him to | Aug 10 21:34 |
| schestowitz | Just telling his its off counds | Aug 10 21:34 |
| schestowitz | Cause we need to keep the channels clean of his rants | Aug 10 21:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/tsa-agents-accused-of-stealing-cash-from-elderly-woman-in-wheelchair-94179834.html | Aug 10 21:49 |
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| schestowitz | Ted Stevens was worthy of this | Aug 11 02:20 |
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| schestowitz | The stalkkker again.. "Doesn't netcraft only count users of its toolbar? I highly doubt your hate site is more popular than Time & Home Depot." http://identi.ca/conversation/45397180#notice-45758575 | Aug 11 07:38 |
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| MinceR | if the truth hurts, it must be false :> | Aug 11 07:43 |
| schestowitz | It it causes pain, then it's wrong | Aug 11 09:53 |
| schestowitz | Remember who called himself TruithHurts? I think it was MUTEX | Aug 11 09:53 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe some troll from c.o.l.a. | Aug 11 09:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/group/microwatch "Linux Outlaws' Microwatch and Crapple Reports" | Aug 11 10:27 |
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| schestowitz | "Crapple" | Aug 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 11 10:27 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz | That's Fab | Aug 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz | They just added an item from me | Aug 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Didn't know about this identica group | Aug 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Novell is messed up | Aug 11 11:02 |
| schestowitz | We need to focus on some other companies more | Aug 11 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat does well | Aug 11 11:03 |
| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703309704575413553851854026.html | Aug 11 12:42 |
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| schestowitz | I'm deleting cookies, but Google is like spyware you can never get rid of | Aug 11 12:42 |
| schestowitz | I also need a search bar | Aug 11 12:43 |
| schestowitz | http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/issues-in-the-proof-that-p%E2%89%A0np/ | Aug 11 12:48 |
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| schestowitz | Did anyone see this? | Aug 11 12:48 |
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| schestowitz | I'm gonna ignore ryan | Aug 11 16:27 |
| schestowitz | He floods the channel with dross | Aug 11 16:28 |
| schestowitz | http://saigkill.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/opensuse-11-3-is-da/ | Aug 11 16:30 |
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| schestowitz | Da da da! | Aug 11 16:30 |
| schestowitz | The trolls in COLA have gone mad. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/560776119d55fc94# | Aug 11 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/c1cb6d51d408f1ab# "Apparently, Roy is gone but not forgotten. :-D " | Aug 11 17:33 |
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| schestowitz | They are still trolling me there | Aug 11 17:33 |
| schestowitz | This week: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/455670daed6880bf# http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/854771d95c9d4ed4# http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/056f2fb6aba810ac# | Aug 11 17:34 |
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| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/ba6de0693dc4adcb# "Looks like you are still stalking Linux advocate Roy. " | Aug 11 17:34 |
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| schestowitz | This is sick | Aug 11 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Even a month after I stepped aside for a while | Aug 11 17:35 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/a234d4f685eb44e6# 106 messages | Aug 11 17:37 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Marti van Lin wrote: | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > I think, Roy simply has had it with COLA. His site http://techrights.org | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > is growing beyond expectation. It even outnumbered http://growklaw.net | Aug 11 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | > last week. | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > It is crystal clear that Roy is very successful in what he's doing. The | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > man works his ass off. So why on Earth should he any longer put up with | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > the Wintroll scum in here? | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 11 17:40 |
| schestowitz | They also started trolling me re Gates... and not linking to my posts, then lying about what I said | Aug 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Saying I accused him of causing lung cancer?!?! http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/d3507d31b61f0d75# | Aug 11 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Stalkking again: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/c4b682f3a8e3ccfb# | Aug 11 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/d3507d31b61f0d75# | Aug 11 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm far more impressed by poor man giving away his last penny, than a | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | rich many giving away a token amount of his riches. | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | But then, please don't confuse what Bill Gates does with philanthropy. | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | He has a well documented agenda, and it has far more to do with helping | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | corporations than people. | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Too funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijk75NqPmXw&feature=digest | Aug 11 19:34 |
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| MinceR | sounds kinky | Aug 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | It's not | Aug 11 19:40 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymeLkZ7GqM | Aug 11 19:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jasphua/statuses/20905403181 "FTW; don't underest risks of revealing 2much" | Aug 11 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | Is loco loco? | Aug 11 23:05 |
| schestowitz | As in troll? | Aug 11 23:05 |
| MinceR | not sure yet | Aug 11 23:05 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like the "curious troll" pattern | Aug 11 23:05 |
| schestowitz | You know the type, right? | Aug 11 23:05 |
| MinceR | the typical "curious troll" starts the "what's wrong with novell?" pattern much earlier :> | Aug 11 23:06 |
| MinceR | though the "small child" attempt is indeed suspicious | Aug 11 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I have a whole post about this troll type | Aug 11 23:06 |
| schestowitz | In relation to Linux | Aug 11 23:06 |
| MinceR | link plx | Aug 11 23:07 |
| schestowitz | The curious ones experiment with Linux to break it and when whine | Aug 11 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Usually Microsoft MVPs | Aug 11 23:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: link? Hold on.. | Aug 11 23:07 |
| schestowitz | I mention it here: http://techrights.org/2010/02/22/randall-kennedy-on-the-vista-pig/ | Aug 11 23:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Randall C. Kennedy is a Scam, But Vista 7 is Still Bloated | Techrights .::. Size~: 111.17 KB | Aug 11 23:08 |
| schestowitz | But in other posts too | Aug 11 23:08 |
| schestowitz | "It’s natural to think that if the claim comes from a fictitious source, then that also means that there is no memory problem in Vista 7 (well, Gralla is also attacking UNIX/Linux and Macs over security this week while pretending to be “just curious”, which is a common tactic of Microsoft boosters). Windows is demonstrably less secure." | Aug 11 23:08 |
| schestowitz | I have a dedicated posts with examples | Aug 11 23:09 |
| schestowitz | *post | Aug 11 23:09 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 11 23:11 |
| MinceR | thx | Aug 11 23:11 |
| schestowitz | the "Flatfish" troll does this sometimes | Aug 11 23:12 |
| schestowitz | They use bad PCs to make Linux choke on them | Aug 11 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Ed Bought did this too | Aug 11 23:12 |
| schestowitz | With RAID and stuff | Aug 11 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Cheated essentially | Aug 11 23:12 |
| schestowitz | I read on.. | Aug 11 23:13 |
| schestowitz | I don't think loco is a troll based on the latter parts | Aug 11 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Mind you, if you search freenode on Novell almost half the channels are techrights' | Aug 11 23:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 11 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Loco is UK based | Aug 11 23:16 |
| schestowitz | But it sounds outlandish | Aug 11 23:16 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45506011#notice-45860004 "I'm reminded of that scene in `When Harry Met Sally': "But you said she has a good personality!"...." | Aug 12 06:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/45884983 "<- why don't they just use pygowave.net?" | Aug 12 08:17 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1727626/kde-desktop-integrates-webkit | Aug 12 08:49 |
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| schestowitz | Defeatist: http://mmcgrath.livejournal.com/35659.html | Aug 12 09:01 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.montanalinux.org/response-death-of-year-of-linux-desktop.html | Aug 12 09:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrX__ILDd3w&feature=digest | Aug 12 09:27 |
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| schestowitz | This guy is funny yoo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z63U_eqii-o&feature=digest | Aug 12 09:33 |
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| schestowitz | This one says Wikipedia is doing badly: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/09/take-this-blog-and-shove-it.html | Aug 12 11:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Crowd Sourcing Loses Steam - Newsweek .::. Size~: 43.25 KB | Aug 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | From NewsWeek | Aug 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Big Media hates Wikipedia | Aug 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.teletruth.org//History/history.html | Aug 12 11:35 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/vD3UV/ | Aug 12 11:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Lady Gaga's Poker Face read by Christopher Walken - Friday Night with Jonathan Ross - BBC One .::. Size~: 5.36 KB | Aug 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* quacks... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCLAA3JV66g&feature=digest | Aug 12 11:51 |
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| tessier | Christopher Walken is hilarious | Aug 12 12:01 |
| tessier | Did you see Balls of Fury? | Aug 12 12:01 |
| schestowitz | I haven't, no... | Aug 12 12:03 |
| tessier | It was funny | Aug 12 12:05 |
| MinceR | well, not only the gnome do packages are broken in debian stable | Aug 12 12:19 |
| MinceR | tried to install java6 on vm, now it's broken | Aug 12 12:20 |
| schestowitz | "invest in Freedom" http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/KDE-SC-4-5-final-arrives-1053469.html | Aug 12 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: KDE SC 4.5 final arrives - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.27 KB | Aug 12 12:21 |
| schestowitz | The new KDE motto? | Aug 12 12:21 |
| tessier | http://www.paulgraham.com/yahoo.html | Aug 12 12:24 |
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| tessier | Another excellent essay by Paul Graham. | Aug 12 12:24 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll install fedora on ext4 and cp -a it to a real fs | Aug 12 12:24 |
| MinceR | why can't anyone develop an OS that doesn't suck? | Aug 12 12:24 |
| schestowitz | For desktops? | Aug 12 12:26 |
| MinceR | yes | Aug 12 12:26 |
| MinceR | or in general | Aug 12 12:26 |
| schestowitz | RTOS is easier | Aug 12 12:27 |
| schestowitz | Less LOCs | Aug 12 12:27 |
| schestowitz | And less function | Aug 12 12:27 |
| schestowitz | Windows = GUI+basic useless apps | Aug 12 12:27 |
| schestowitz | GNU/Linux comes with far more lines of code, I reckon | Aug 12 12:27 |
| oiaohm | Depends on the RTOS schestowitz | Aug 12 12:27 |
| oiaohm | does it include a Linux application emulator or not. | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Mac OS X is artwork with BSD stuff | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: those small embedded chips that run a washing machine | Aug 12 12:28 |
| MinceR | shitty "artwork" | Aug 12 12:28 |
| oiaohm | Ok freertos class | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/kde-45-released-1723-new-features-16022-bug-fixes/9276 | Aug 12 12:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: KDE 4.5 released - 1,723 new features, 16,022 bug fixes | ZDNet .::. Size~: 127.83 KB | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Even a Microsoft booster covers it | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | KDE is smart enough to make SC | Aug 12 12:29 |
| oiaohm | Notice the number of new features | Aug 12 12:29 |
| schestowitz | And to target devices | Aug 12 12:29 |
| oiaohm | How many did MS add in Windows 7 | Aug 12 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Windows might be pushed aside to 'desktops' | Aug 12 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Which fewer people will use | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Many devices now run Android | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Android competes with KDE | Aug 12 12:30 |
| oiaohm | I think 6 months KDE development added more than 7 did. | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | But it's not appreciated | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Not by the press | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | It's too busy with "PC and Mac" | Aug 12 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Linux is trying to create the one ring of OS's. | Aug 12 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Ie 1 OS to rule them all. | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/kde-45-released-1723-new-features-16022-bug-fixes/9276 | Aug 12 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: KDE 4.5 released - 1,723 new features, 16,022 bug fixes | ZDNet .::. Size~: 127.66 KB | Aug 12 12:31 |
| oiaohm | http://www.freertos.org/ << seen this before schestowitz | Aug 12 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: FreeRTOS-A Free RTOS for ARM7, ARM9, Cortex-M3, MSP430, MicroBlaze, AVR, x86, PIC32, PIC24, dsPIC, H8S, HCS12 and 8051 .::. Size~: 6.74 KB | Aug 12 12:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/AWN-Ekes-Out-a-Win-in-the-Battle-of-the-Dock-Apps-70591.html | Aug 12 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Welcome to LinuxInsider .::. Size~: 2.92 KB | Aug 12 12:32 |
| schestowitz | I no longer use stupid docks | Aug 12 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Mac OS X wannabes | Aug 12 12:32 |
| schestowitz | With their pink (purpose) wallpaper and purse at the bottom... | Aug 12 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Dockdockdockdockdockdock | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to waste screen space on a trash can | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | So I stopped using awn | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | Kwin has better effects than OS X | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | I saw some demos and pasted here yesterday | Aug 12 12:33 |
| oiaohm | I do like the look of KDE 4.5 tasked based desktop widget configs. | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | Mac OS X and Vista{}* cannot catch up | Aug 12 12:33 |
| oiaohm | And are looking forward to trying it. | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: what's that? | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | I never got the hand oif activities | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | I just use virtual desktops | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Activities intimidate me, seems complex and desktop zoom drives me nuts | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | The new widget manager for plasma is really nice | Aug 12 12:35 |
| oiaohm | Activities have changed design completely 4.5 | Aug 12 12:35 |
| oiaohm | desktop zoom bit is gone. | Aug 12 12:35 |
| oiaohm | Its now you group them into tasks and change between them depending on what you are doing. | Aug 12 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Now what I want to check is if it turns the widgets off or just hides them. | Aug 12 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully it turns them off when they are not displayed. | Aug 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz | I'm seeing new options now | Aug 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz | Didn't explore 4.4 much | Aug 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz | WIndows decors also got nicer | Aug 12 12:36 |
| oiaohm | There was not many new options in 4.4 | Aug 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz | I still can't make a wallpaper stretch across screens | Aug 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz | Each is treated like separate part of plasma session | Aug 12 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Yep that area is still buggy. | Aug 12 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully 4.6 has multi screen sorted out. | Aug 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: Firefox took activities-like approach | Aug 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz | They call it Tab Candy IIRC | Aug 12 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Reverse | Aug 12 12:38 |
| oiaohm | KDE had activities first | Aug 12 12:38 |
| oiaohm | But 4.5 they saw tab candy and went hey that sane. | Aug 12 12:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1727465/adobe-mac-os-x-h264-gpu-decoding | Aug 12 12:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Adobe gives mac os x h.264 gpu decoding - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 67.17 KB | Aug 12 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Lets change. | Aug 12 12:38 |
| schestowitz | Adobe is screwing Linux, still | Aug 12 12:38 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: no Vista 8 vapourware in over a month | Aug 12 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Weird | Aug 12 12:39 |
| schestowitz | They have recesses between vapour-shows | Aug 12 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Maybe weeks before the next fake 'leak' | Aug 12 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft leaks=coredump | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Money/5604762-147/here_comes_nokias_n900__.csp | Aug 12 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Here comes Nokia's N900 .::. Size~: 62.91 KB | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Why does Nokia still promote Maemo | Aug 12 12:40 |
| oiaohm | MS is still having problems controlling the OEMs to get them off XP | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Businesses | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | They wipe Vista 7 off | Aug 12 12:40 |
| oiaohm | N900 can run Meego as well. schestowitz | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | And they prefer the OEMs to do it, i bet... | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | XP alive till 2014 now... | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Not 2007 | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is being pushed by the only cash cow that has the rest cling 0nto it | Aug 12 12:41 |
| oiaohm | Yep every time XP is dead it gets a extra life. | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: can it? | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | I thought Nokia said no ~2 months ago | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Except the hack | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Some unofficial port | Aug 12 12:41 |
| oiaohm | there is unofficial | Aug 12 12:41 |
| oiaohm | N900 allows you to load anything infact. | Aug 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yeah, XP is like the Mickey Mouse copyright extension | Aug 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Always extending once the end if approached | Aug 12 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Some people insanely loaded almost a pure standard debian into a N900 | Aug 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Yeha | Aug 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 12 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Meego is not really fully production ready yet. | Aug 12 12:43 |
| oiaohm | I can understand Nokia holding back for now. | Aug 12 12:43 |
| schestowitz | 1.0 though | Aug 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz | not beta | Aug 12 12:47 |
| oiaohm | I would still call it beta | Aug 12 12:47 |
| oiaohm | It don't have a stocked app store yet. schestowitz | Aug 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz | They need some basic apps | Aug 12 12:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.macnn.com/articles/10/08/10/html5.seen.as.future.of.most.apps/ | Aug 12 12:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Linux director blasts App Store model as "unsustainable" | MacNN .::. Size~: 124.27 KB | Aug 12 12:49 |
| schestowitz | 'Linux Foundation executive director Jim Zemlin has criticized Apple's business model for the App Store, which he views as unsustainable as the mobile industry continues to evolve. Despite Apple's dominance with over 200,000 titles, Zemlin suggests the "top ten pages are the only ones that matter," according to an interview with Wired.' | Aug 12 12:49 |
| oiaohm | The common warehouse already exists schestowitz | Aug 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | its called the opensuse build system. schestowitz | Aug 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes its the one thing that might save Novell | Aug 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | The author is thinking the Linux director is talking theory. He is not. | Aug 12 12:53 |
| schestowitz | OBS is not adopted by many | Aug 12 12:53 |
| schestowitz | And it's not for mobiles, AFAIK | Aug 12 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Look again. | Aug 12 12:54 |
| oiaohm | OBS is in meego by the way schestowitz | Aug 12 12:54 |
| oiaohm | And can spit out native android apps. | Aug 12 12:55 |
| oiaohm | The warehouse system already applies to meego and android. Only thing missing is the central billing and uploading. | Aug 12 12:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/wikinews030/statuses/20966748320 "this. is. not. officially. verified. theres no conf of this. australia: dementi. germany: holidays. big ben land: unknown" | Aug 12 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / wikinews030: @schestowitz this. is. not ... .::. Size~: 11.82 KB | Aug 12 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Ryan is trolling | Aug 12 17:29 |
| schestowitz | I'm wasting time giving him openings to spout our lies | Aug 12 17:29 |
| schestowitz | *out | Aug 12 17:29 |
| MinceR | argh | Aug 12 18:13 |
| MinceR | fucking stupid synaptic didn't let debconf or something display a license agreement | Aug 12 18:13 |
| MinceR | that's why it broke | Aug 12 18:14 |
| MinceR | can someone come up with a "only use these frontends to not fuck up your apt/dpkg system" list? | Aug 12 18:14 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 12 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I never use synaptic | Aug 12 18:40 |
| schestowitz | In ubuntu 4.10 it was called something else | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | I installed openssh with it | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | -servr | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | and it was quite primitive | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Just package names, no user-friendly names | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | But it works, then it shows you a terminal window Debian-style where it gets installed | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Those were the days... 2004 Ubuntu | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Now I get use -apt-get | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Althogh... | Aug 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Kubuntu's package manager is quite nice | Aug 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | So I use apt-get less over time | Aug 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | I found all sorts of ways of making Qt look wicked | Aug 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | MotorMouthFC... | Aug 12 18:43 |
| MinceR | KPackageKit is retarded in its feature set | Aug 12 18:45 |
| MinceR | probably the entire PackageKit is | Aug 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Well, either way... compare that to Windows | Aug 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz | I don't need to waste time with firefox, browser, d/ling, installing, rebooting, etc | Aug 12 18:45 |
| MinceR | well yeah, but i'm way over the 'it only needs to be better than winblows | Aug 12 18:46 |
| MinceR | ' phase | Aug 12 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Apple? | Aug 12 18:46 |
| MinceR | that's the one thing that isn't | Aug 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz | It keeps the doctor away but makes your pecker shrink or fall off | Aug 12 18:47 |
| MinceR | crApple is so limited it kind of makes the point of having a general purpose computer moot | Aug 12 18:47 |
| MinceR | plus their hw quality sucks too | Aug 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz | It's the same | Aug 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Components | Aug 12 18:47 |
| MinceR | and you're pretty much locked into it | Aug 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Apple is a marketing house\ | Aug 12 18:47 |
| MinceR | no, it's about the same as dell | Aug 12 18:48 |
| MinceR | which is the bottom of the barrel | Aug 12 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Putting an arrogant face on Foxconn | Aug 12 18:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the bottom of the barrel is British Petroleum | Aug 12 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Even the barrel of the bottom :-) | Aug 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/08/20-useful-ubuntugnome-keyboard.html | Aug 12 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 20 Useful Ubuntu/Gnome Keyboard Shortcuts | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 37.98 KB | Aug 12 18:52 |
| schestowitz | [18:16] <MinceR> the more realistic outcome is that we'll kill everything on earth before we can come up with something | Aug 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | [18:16] <MinceR> because of people like you | Aug 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | True | Aug 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Biosynthesis a possibility | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Modifying DNA to survive other planet's conditions | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe even to elongate lifetime | Aug 12 18:56 |
| MinceR | i didn't mention that though :> | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | But making it replicable on other planets | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I'm still reading, let me see... | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | I run away from ryan's crapfl00ds | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | [18:19] <MinceR> and that we' | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | [18:19] <MinceR> and that we'll alter the DNA of organisms to make them different | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | We thought of the same solution | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | We need to study ryan's DNA | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Then, *delete* that | Aug 12 18:58 |
| schestowitz | *delete* that | Aug 12 18:58 |
| schestowitz | *delete* that | Aug 12 18:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 12 18:58 |
| schestowitz | something funny going on in Vista.......... | Aug 12 18:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 12 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Ryan made me feel all cozy | Aug 12 18:59 |
| schestowitz | We should burn MOAR fuel | Aug 12 18:59 |
| schestowitz | To prepare for the coming ice age | Aug 12 18:59 |
| schestowitz | In fact, I'm going back to freon sprays | Aug 12 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Gerbil brain ryan | Aug 12 19:19 |
| schestowitz | He's provoking on purpose | Aug 12 19:19 |
| schestowitz | agentsmith: "Is it safe to return to TR chat ? I mean, that gentleman scared me away from there." | Aug 12 19:22 |
| MinceR | why not invite him here and to #techrights? | Aug 12 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | yeah...... | Aug 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | wb, scientes | Aug 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: #boycottnovell-social and http://TechRights.org | Aug 12 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45606409#notice-45948715 "@schestowitz Nice, I was scared away from tr chat, You know. I'll be back shortly ;-)" | Aug 12 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | scared?!?! | Aug 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | By whom? | Aug 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Weird... | Aug 12 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | :-( http://www.google.com/search?q=site:linsux.org+schestowitz&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl= | Aug 12 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR_: | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | [23:49] <jweyrich> hey | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | [23:49] <jweyrich> the guy talks more than everyone together. | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | [23:50] <jweyrich> I regret I started that discussion LOL. | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | [23:50] <schestowitz> He's a cr3pfl00der | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | daemon | Aug 12 23:51 |
| tessier | Indeed | Aug 13 00:42 |
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| schestowitz | Lobbyist Florian is at it again.. | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > Don't know if you have a LWN subscription, so I'm sending you my comment | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > there. It's behind a paywall but since I wrote it, I can authorize you | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > to quote. Again, no mass mailer in use ;-) | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:58 |
| schestowitz | > Florian | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > http://lwn.net/Articles/399850/ | Aug 13 06:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: So what do the proponents of Oracle's acquisition of Sun think now? [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.62 KB | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > So what do the proponents of Oracle's acquisition of Sun think now? | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > Posted Aug 13, 2010 5:00 UTC (Fri) by *FlorianMueller* (subscriber, #32048) | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > Parent article: Oracle sues Google over use of Java in Android (ars | Aug 13 06:59 |
| schestowitz | > technica) <http://lwn.net/Articles/399840/> | Aug 13 06:59 |
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| schestowitz | "In earnings news, MBIA surged 4.5% after it registered a 45% jump in earnings in the second quarter. Software manufacturer Novell plunged 3.2% after it cut its third- quarter revenue outlook. Best Buy, the electricals retailer, fell 2.8% after Goldman Sachs cut its rating from “buy” to “neutral”." | Aug 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | BTW,I quit fast cause I pasted too much (Firefox thing) | Aug 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Hm...... | Aug 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Od plasma bug | Aug 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Never happened before | Aug 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Plane on autohide would not come up | Aug 13 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Restarting plasma-desktop sorted it out | Aug 13 07:52 |
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