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| schestowitz | "With the Wired app weighing in at a whopping 500 megabytes – just 100 shy of a full CD-ROM – how do they intend to maintain new editions of the magazine? 500 MB is too large for a 3G download (no help from AT&T’s less than spectacular network performance) and for those with iPad’s with the smaller storage, each issue will take a significant chunk of space on the device. " http://interfacelab.com/is-this-really-the-future-of- | Jun 02 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | magazines-or-why-didnt-they-just-use-html-5/ | Jun 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | That's huge | Jun 02 10:33 |
| techrights-local | Title: Is This Really The Future of Magazines or Why Didnt They Just Use HTML 5? .::. Size~: 166.61 KB | Jun 02 10:33 |
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| |circlederp| | Big | Jun 02 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Hi | Jun 02 18:25 |
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| schestowitz | The biggest and best run Linux | Jun 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/12773-The-biggest-and-best-run-Linux.html | Jun 03 13:20 |
| techrights-local | Title: The biggest and best run Linux .::. Size~: 36.91 KB | Jun 03 13:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20006648-71.html | Jun 04 19:21 |
| techrights-local | Title: Study: Developers would rather do taxes than test software | Technically Incorrect - CNET News .::. Size~: 123.52 KB | Jun 04 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | More of that same old FUD: http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-source-insider/2010/06/will-enterprise-open-source-adoption-trigger-malware-migration.html | Jun 05 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.reghardware.com/2010/06/02/aston_martin_db5_james_bond_auction/ | Jun 06 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/04/miss_ellie_cute_ugly_pooch_dies/ | Jun 07 06:42 |
| techrights-local | Title: The world's ugliest dog is dead • The Register .::. Size~: 26.25 KB | Jun 07 06:42 |
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| jookia | Hi, I have a small but important issue to talk about. :( | Jun 07 09:12 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: have you heard yet? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/world/europe/05hungrary.html?partner=rss&emc=rss | Jun 07 12:36 |
| techrights-local | Title: Hungary Warns of Greek-Style Crisis - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 38.77 KB | Jun 07 12:36 |
| schestowitz | Tim has started his PhD. http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~tblee/ | Jun 07 12:54 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: i have | Jun 07 13:50 |
| MinceR | they're bullshitting so they can ignore their promises | Jun 07 13:50 |
| MinceR | but it's a dangerous game to play | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | :-) to second sentence | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | Not third | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | Randi is coming to Europe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmQRUZMxGDE&feature=digest | Jun 07 13:54 |
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| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | Jun 07 20:28 | |
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| techrights-local | Hello World! I'm techrights-local running phIRCe v0.3 | Jun 07 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/35083208#notice-35274341 "@schestowitz "My 14 yrs of IT experience & printers have told me printers are evil and sadly progress have only made them cleverer." #q #LOL" | Jun 08 00:39 |
| techrights-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.42 KB | Jun 08 00:39 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/dgrt1/statuses/15656696448 "@schestowitz do you know anything abt getting MySql to work on fedora 13?" | Jun 08 00:47 |
| techrights-local | Title: Twitter / The Great One ™: @schestowitz do you know a ... .::. Size~: 10.72 KB | Jun 08 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Maybe ender2070 knows? | Jun 08 00:47 |
| schestowitz | I don't know Fedora well enough | Jun 08 00:48 |
| ender2070 | ?? | Jun 08 00:48 |
| ender2070 | easy sauce | Jun 08 00:48 |
| schestowitz | On 6/1/10 9:18 AM, "Xavier Bestel" <xavier bestel free fr> wrote: | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.24.0.100205 | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:41:19 -0700 | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: FW: Candidacy: Seif Lotfy | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > From: "Lefty (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQFA2QBsoQg==?= )" <lefty shugendo org> | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > I find it quite amusing that you're using a Microsoft client on an Apple | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > pc to defend your GNOME candidacy. | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > Kudos for your sense of humor (or is it just plain provocation ?). | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > Xav | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-June/msg00004.html | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.the-source.com/2010/06/knowing-what-you-like/ | Jun 08 00:50 |
| techrights-local | Title: Knowing what you like « The-Source.com .::. Size~: 28.46 KB | Jun 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | That troll wants GNOME chair/s | Jun 08 00:50 |
| ender2070 | the mysql package is just mysql | Jun 08 00:51 |
| ender2070 | yum install mysql | Jun 08 00:51 |
| ender2070 | you can search 'mysql' in kpackagekit too for the modules | Jun 08 00:51 |
| ender2070 | there are a lot | Jun 08 00:51 |
| ender2070 | also | Jun 08 00:52 |
| ender2070 | yum install mysql-server | Jun 08 00:52 |
| ender2070 | theres also the generic mysql command you use to setup every mysql server with its root password and shit | Jun 08 00:52 |
| schestowitz | I replied to him | Jun 08 00:55 |
| schestowitz | "@dgrt1 mate says; " the mysql package is just mysql; yum install mysql; you can search 'mysql' in kpackagekit too for the modules"" | Jun 08 00:55 |
| schestowitz | "@dgrt1 [ctd]"yum install mysql-server; theres also the generic mysql command you use to setup every mysql server with its root password and"" | Jun 08 00:55 |
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| trmanco | wow | Jun 08 17:38 |
| trmanco | hey guys | Jun 08 17:38 |
| trmanco | this sure has changed a lot | Jun 08 17:38 |
| trmanco | ping schestowitz | Jun 08 17:39 |
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| dyfet | Looks like another gnu/linux distro has got a fatal case of microsoft partnership | Jun 08 20:19 |
| dyfet | http://www.ulteo.com/home/news/2010/06/08 | Jun 08 20:19 |
| techrights-local | Title: Microsoft is helping Ulteo to deliver an enterprise class tightly integrated Windows + Linux based Ulteo virtual desktop and applications delivery solution - Ulteo - Enterprise Open Source VDI and Application Delivery solutions (SBC), Enterprise Open Source Virtual Desktop solutions .::. Size~: 14.9 KB | Jun 08 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Oh no | Jun 08 20:44 |
| dyfet | yep :( | Jun 08 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I don't care much | Jun 08 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I don't know, I just don't think Ulteo ever mattered | Jun 08 20:44 |
| schestowitz | And this is not a patent deal | Jun 08 20:44 |
| schestowitz | More like that move from Joomla! | Jun 08 20:45 |
| schestowitz | But... | Jun 08 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Joomla! has far more users | Jun 08 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Maybe we should just ignore this? | Jun 08 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Besides, Ulteo was all along Windows-centric | Jun 08 20:46 |
| schestowitz | It started as a flavour of Kubuntu IIRC | Jun 08 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Didn't get anywhere, so Gael tried something else altogether | Jun 08 20:46 |
| dyfet | And of course was started by the Mandrake guy... | Jun 08 20:46 |
| dyfet | Yes, Gael... | Jun 08 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know. I spoke to him. | Jun 08 20:46 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, this isn't a big deal | Jun 08 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Ulteo had already turned into a Windows thing a while back | Jun 08 20:47 |
| schestowitz | And it's a tiny project | Jun 08 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Netcraft rank 100k for that site | Jun 08 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Techrights is around 1600 | Jun 08 20:47 |
| dyfet | I had not paid attention to it before this announcement so I did not notice it had already | Jun 08 20:47 |
| schestowitz | I hope the press doesn't cover this | Jun 08 20:47 |
| schestowitz | The baboons at Microsoft will pump their chest with it | Jun 08 20:48 |
| schestowitz | And try to smear it in people's faces | Jun 08 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | Does this run Linux? http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-05/humanoid-robots-are-new-therapists | Jun 08 21:37 |
| techrights-local | Title: The New Face of Autism Therapy | Popular Science .::. Size~: 110.39 KB | Jun 08 21:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-06-05-002-35-OS-BZ-0000 " | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | I'm not against companies acquiring FOSS projects -- not in principle, at least. | Jun 08 21:45 |
| techrights-local | Title: Linux Today - Being acquired is the best thing for a FOSS project .::. Size~: 78.8 KB | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | But there's acquisitions and there's acquisitions. | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Many moons ago, there was a project to use thin clients in a big organization (think thousands of PCs). | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | The basic idea was a mixed environment with PCs for dedicated uses and TCs for general use with common applications. | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | It all went well until someone less competent assumed (actually it's one of those situations where one cannot exactly tell true incompetence from feigned). | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Thin clients, an idea touted as good worldwide, suddenly were blamed for all kinds of problems (much like the computer is blamed for Windows blunders). | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | It seemed to me the classic case of the benevolent dictator. Though it's a great idea, things turn really sour when the benevolent guy is replaced by a tyrant. | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Now, returning to the present topic, it's the same with acquisitions: a great tool which can do great things can be turned 180° and become an instrument of evil. | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | At the same time, I'm very worried about Mandriva being unable to perform in Marketing (in spite of being such an excellent distro); maybe being acquired could make it work, who knows? | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | But if things go wrong, history might repeat itself and I could become orphan again, just like when Red Hat got out of the desktop market (with an M$ eulogy, no less!). | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I wonder what certain people got inside their heads... | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | For a great discussion about ownership, see the end of this video (though applied to the cloud data ownership issue): | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | http://ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Marcel-Gagne-O rbiting-Planet-buntu/The-Death-of-the-Desktop-a-vi deo-panel-discussion | Jun 08 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | They fired Duval | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | And they also fired alanw | Jun 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | He was their main marketing dude | Jun 08 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojydNb3Lrrs&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Jun 08 23:16 |
| techrights-local | Title: YouTube- So Long and Thanks for all the Fish .::. Size~: 107.19 KB | Jun 08 23:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIIMEdp0apo&feature=related | Jun 08 23:25 |
| techrights-local | Title: YouTube- ONE EYED FISH!!! .::. Size~: 105.37 KB | Jun 08 23:25 |
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| Aondo | just cannot belive i havent seen this photo software before, called darktable | Jun 10 16:38 |
| Aondo | just saw it in a presentation at LGM | Jun 10 16:38 |
| Aondo | even gplv3 :D | Jun 10 16:39 |
| Aondo | http://river-valley.tv/digital-photography-workflow-on-linux-with-darktable/ | Jun 10 16:40 |
| techrights-local | Title: Digital photography workflow on Linux with darktable | River Valley TV .::. Size~: 38.88 KB | Jun 10 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Aondo: any news article about it, or blog post at least? | Jun 10 18:47 |
| Aondo | http://blog.pcode.nl/2010/03/13/darktable/ is one | Jun 10 22:34 |
| techrights-local | Title: The p-Code Machine » Darktable .::. Size~: 10.31 KB | Jun 10 22:35 |
| schestowitz | It's from March. I wish we had one from June. | Jun 10 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Now they use Vala for photos in Ubuntu | Jun 10 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Like Unity | Jun 10 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Seems like they swap some mono for vala | Jun 10 22:39 |
| schestowitz | David who made gnome-do is now coding in vala | Jun 10 22:39 |
| MinceR | any chance of gnome-do reimplemented in vala? :> | Jun 10 22:39 |
| Aondo | is vala any good? must say i dont know much about it | Jun 10 22:40 |
| Aondo | reading on the site, but that's just one side of it i guess | Jun 10 22:41 |
| MinceR | i prefer c++ | Jun 10 22:42 |
| MinceR | but if someone absolutely must program OOP native code and hates c++... | Jun 10 22:43 |
| Aondo | hmm i dont think there is an recent article or anything about darktable. nothing other than that lgm2010 video. top priority was to make it work he said :D | Jun 10 22:48 |
| Aondo | nice amount of info on their site tho | Jun 10 22:48 |
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| schestowitz | Aondo: there are many other apps like that | Jun 11 01:10 |
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| schestowitz | "Not as many people know the rest of the story: Ghyslain Raza – or to the internet,Star Wars Kid – didn’t feel famous, or funny. He felt harassed, the victim of the most visible bullying in history. Ghyslain dropped out of his Quebec high school, was diagnosed with depression, and checked into a psychiatric ward for children." | Jun 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/gaming.gadgets/06/08/video.game.movies/ | Jun 11 10:32 |
| techrights-local | Title: Why do video games make such bad movies? - CNN.com .::. Size~: 40.29 KB | Jun 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.motherboard.tv/2010/6/1/after-lawsuits-and-therapy-star-wars-kid-is-back | Jun 11 10:32 |
| techrights-local | Title: After Lawsuits and Therapy, Star Wars Kid is Back | Motherboard .::. Size~: 37.72 KB | Jun 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Same thijng happens to other child actors... they get bullied | Jun 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | The guy from American Psycho film, for example (Welsh) | Jun 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | http://web.orange.co.uk/article/quirkies/Steak_scented_billboard_entices_drivers | Jun 11 10:34 |
| techrights-local | Title: Mobile Phones | Broadband & Mobile Broadband UK Deals | Free Web Email | Orange.co.uk .::. Size~: 90.55 KB | Jun 11 10:34 |
| schestowitz | IBM's shameless PR: http://technologizer.com/2010/05/31/ibm-muppets/ (kid association) | Jun 11 10:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jNpQOKLA1U | Jun 11 13:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0612/pat-robertson-tells-woman-attractive-stop/ | Jun 14 11:45 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 16 08:20 | |
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| *[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | Jun 16 08:20 | |
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| schestowitz | http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/06/23/151227/Woman-Jailed-For-Starting-Office-Fire-To-Leave-Work-Early? | Jun 23 20:35 |
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| Aondo | hehe, there is a guy that works at ms that wants to port ardour to windows (currently only for linux and osx) | Jun 24 14:41 |
| schestowitz | re Microsoft collapsing: "He has some good points, but the cloud as argument is a little bit frightening: I don't want to have all my data in the cloud" http://identi.ca/conversation/37623967#notice-37851755 | Jun 24 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Google will be the next big threat, not just Apple | Jun 24 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Aondo: works on the payroll on it (or weekend)? | Jun 24 17:09 |
| schestowitz | FLOSS Weekly had a show where Ardour explained reasons for avoiding Windws | Jun 24 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Same as Inkscape IIRC | Jun 24 17:09 |
| MinceR | maybe us geeks will get to have their own clouds :> | Jun 24 17:10 |
| MinceR | s/their/our/ | Jun 24 17:10 |
| schestowitz | GNU works towards that | Jun 24 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Some projects | Jun 24 17:10 |
| schestowitz | identica is agpl, I think | Jun 24 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Moglen gave that talk on the cloud... | Jun 24 17:10 |
| schestowitz | ... he called for arms... to make Facebook clone | Jun 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Decentralised, as appliance | Jun 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | I live identica | Jun 24 17:12 |
| schestowitz | People there love FOSS | Jun 24 17:12 |
| schestowitz | "great explanation of caching. glad the change is working for you" http://identi.ca/conversation/37592931#notice-37857084 | Jun 24 17:12 |
| schestowitz | There are some good FOSS discussion there too | Jun 24 17:12 |
| schestowitz | dDave Rosenberg writes in the Reg now and it's pro-Apple cult http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/23/android_marketplace_challenge/ | Jun 24 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Dave used to be in MuleSource | Jun 24 18:16 |
| schestowitz | A friend of mine from the gym waited for 4.5 hours for an hypePhone 4 | Jun 24 18:16 |
| schestowitz | He didn't get one | Jun 24 18:16 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 24 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I was shocked he had been made cult member | Jun 24 18:17 |
| schestowitz | He's a muscle type like myself | Jun 24 18:17 |
| schestowitz | And we used to laugh at Apple | Jun 24 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Then a common friend told me that he was waiting outside like a friggin loser | Jun 24 18:17 |
| schestowitz | And today he (Fabio) confirmed it to me | Jun 24 18:17 |
| MinceR | pathetic | Jun 24 18:17 |
| schestowitz | He already has an hypePhone | Jun 24 18:17 |
| schestowitz | He wants another | Jun 24 18:17 |
| MinceR | and he did it for the worst hypePhone ever | Jun 24 18:18 |
| schestowitz | And he shows me junk on it | Jun 24 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Like unlocking with genture is "innovative" | Jun 24 18:18 |
| schestowitz | I was like, :"are you insane??" | Jun 24 18:18 |
| MinceR | (fails even as a phone due to the idiotic antenna) | Jun 24 18:18 |
| schestowitz | They sued HTC again | Jun 24 18:18 |
| schestowitz | This gesture thing was one patent | Jun 24 18:18 |
| schestowitz | He says you draw between 9 keypads | Jun 24 18:18 |
| MinceR | i prefer unlocking with a real hardware slider button :> | Jun 24 18:18 |
| MinceR | the n97 has one | Jun 24 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Not just tap them | Jun 24 18:18 |
| schestowitz | WOW! Innovation | Jun 24 18:18 |
| schestowitz | One patent, please, Sir | Jun 24 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Bad touchscreen/digitizer=locked out | Jun 24 18:19 |
| schestowitz | My Palm has this issue sometimes | Jun 24 18:19 |
| schestowitz | I just whack it a bit and it's sorted out | Jun 24 18:19 |
| schestowitz | "Google's Android market needs Jobsian strongman" | Jun 24 18:20 |
| schestowitz | -Reg | Jun 24 18:20 |
| schestowitz | gimma a break | Jun 24 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Like he's a "strongman" | Jun 24 18:20 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strongbow_Cider | Jun 24 18:20 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 24 18:20 |
| schestowitz | My fav | Jun 24 18:20 |
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| techrights-local | Hello World! I'm techrights-local running phIRCe v0.3 | Jun 24 18:21 |
| techrights-local | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.21 KB | Jun 24 18:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.daniweb.com/news/story292280.html | Jun 24 18:26 |
| techrights-local | Title: Nokia Dumps Symbian and Creates Symbiosis with Linux .::. Size~: 38.08 KB | Jun 24 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Another blow to hypePhone | Jun 24 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Nokia is far bigger than Apple | Jun 24 18:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE65N14720100624 | Jun 24 18:28 |
| techrights-local | Title: UPDATE 1-Nokia to use Linux for flagship N-series phones| Reuters .::. Size~: 53.28 KB | Jun 24 18:28 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/37592931#notice-37883854 "no, it's true- and it's one of my favorite websites, so keep it up" :-) | Jun 24 18:46 |
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| pupnik | so the mono developers are really excited about it. | Jun 25 00:04 |
| schestowitz | What about? | Jun 25 00:22 |
| pupnik | mono in general | Jun 25 00:24 |
| pupnik | "we can do eval!" etc | Jun 25 00:25 |
| pupnik | i'm wondering about this conversation http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/meego-dot-net/ | Jun 25 00:25 |
| techrights-local | Title: MeeGo is Hijacked by the Mono Team | Techrights .::. Size~: 117.94 KB | Jun 25 00:25 |
| schestowitz | They know about it | Jun 25 00:34 |
| schestowitz | They brought it up in the meego mailing list (Novell employees against me) | Jun 25 00:34 |
| Aondo | schestowitz, doesnt really say. http://www.linkedin.com/in/barba3 is the guy | Jun 25 01:29 |
| techrights-local | Title: Bruno Barba Venturi - LinkedIn .::. Size~: 19.04 KB | Jun 25 01:29 |
| schestowitz | Maybe works on it as a hobby? | Jun 25 01:32 |
| schestowitz | Basides, it's not huge 'sin' to port it | Jun 25 01:32 |
| Aondo | probably | Jun 25 01:32 |
| schestowitz | Ardour doesn't; port cause of support | Jun 25 01:32 |
| schestowitz | They would get Windows users nagging them in forums | Jun 25 01:32 |
| schestowitz | And with Windows mentality | Jun 25 01:32 |
| schestowitz | =you OWE me support! | Jun 25 01:34 |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | Jun 25 01:43 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:34 2010 | Jun 25 01:43 | |
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| pupnik | sometimes it's not so much a question of which way to do things, but of people doing something vs people who whine about things | Jun 25 07:31 |
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| schestowitz | > See Google get beat up for removing fake malware from the Android app | Jun 25 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > store. Damned if you don't damned if you do. It would be interesting | Jun 25 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > to find out if that journo is affiliated with a rival company. The | Jun 25 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > above is not ment for publication but a suggestion as to your next | Jun 25 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > article on BN/TR ... | Jun 25 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 25 17:54 |
| schestowitz | > http://blogs.forbes.com/firewall/2010/06/25/google-flips-kill-switch-deletes-and-downplays-botnet-demo-android-apps/ | Jun 25 17:54 |
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| techrights-local | Title: Google Flips Kill Switch, Deletes And Downplays Botnet Demo Android Apps « The Firewall - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 34.63 KB | Jun 25 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.ipjur.com/blog2/index.php?/archives/166-Will-The-EU-Patent-And-The-European-and-Community-Patents-Court-PC-Get-A-Final-Chance.html | Jun 25 18:21 |
| techrights-local | Title: Will The EU Patent And The European and Community Patents Court (PC) Get A Final Chance? - BLOG@IPJUR.COM .::. Size~: 48.45 KB | Jun 25 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Florian Müller: "I won't comment on this officially for now but I sent it to Benjamin Henrion and also wanted to make you aware of it because this theory of heads of state deprived of sleep rubberstamping patent reform is a nightmare. Again, off the record. I mentioned that EU patent reform and lots of reasons to criticize it as part of my LinuxTag presentation. I'll blog about it again at some point, depending on how the process | Jun 25 18:21 |
| schestowitz | evolves. Still off the record." | Jun 25 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-06-24-016-35-NW-BZ-0000 | Jun 25 19:46 |
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| techrights-local | Title: Linux Today - Google Beats Viacom! .::. Size~: 75.04 KB | Jun 25 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Forbidden | Jun 25 19:47 |
| schestowitz | You don't have permission to access /article.php on this server. | Jun 25 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Apache/2 Server at www.groklaw.net Port 80 | Jun 25 19:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 25 19:47 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 26 13:02:03 2010 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 26 13:02 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | Jun 26 13:02 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:18:45 2010 | Jun 26 13:02 | |
| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | Jun 26 13:02 | |
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| techrights-local | Hello World! I'm techrights-local running phIRCe v0.3 | Jun 26 13:03 |
| techrights-local | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.53 KB | Jun 26 13:03 |
| pupnik | mofnin | Jun 26 13:07 |
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| schestowitz | My computer power went out for second... never happened ever before | Jun 26 14:45 |
| schestowitz | I lost some work | Jun 26 14:45 |
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| pupnik | kick Aondo | Jun 26 22:29 |
| pupnik | :P | Jun 26 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | why?? | Jun 26 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | who is "pupnik"? | Jun 26 22:52 |
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| schestowitz | > "...geeks see products like the iPhone and iPad as signifying an end | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > to the era in which consumer tech products are suitable for geeks. No | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > wonder, then, that the geeks are clinging to their Android dream so | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > tightly, despite it being such a thoroughly underwhelming product: | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > it’s the only hope they have left. | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > Well, that and Linux, the desktop operating system that’s built around | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > the same kind of total anarchist geekery, an operating system which | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > has seen literally zero adoption outside the geekdom despite the fact | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > that the geek headline writers have been touting Linux as “the future” | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > for more than a decade. Rather than admit that Linux is a complete | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > mainstream failure, the geeks have instead merely transferred their | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > enthusiasm to the Android, a platform which hasn’t yet officially | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > failed, giving them license to attach as much irrational hope to the | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > future of geek products as they wish. | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > But even as these insulated geeks manage to libel the iPhone on a | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > daily basis with their geek-agenda headlines, and have seemingly | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > stepped it up a notch with the phony iPhone 4 antenna controversy, | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > mainstream sales haven’t been hurt. It’s almost as if the mainstream | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > public have spent so many years (decades really) reading technology | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > headlines that invariably turned out to be wrong-headed and worthless | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > that they’ve instinctively learned not to trust those headlines. The | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > proof? Geek tech pundits have openly attacked every product that Apple | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > has brought to market over the past decade, and yet nearly every one | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > of those products has proven to be a mainstream success. In contrast, | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > the only two Apple products that the geeks supported from day one, the | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > Mac Mini, and the Apple TV, have been Apple’s only two notable flops | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > during that same time. " | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.beatweek.com/news/6636-iphone-4-is-latest-apple-product-to-overcome-phony-controversy/ | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 27 08:25 |
| techrights-local | Title: iPhone 4 is latest Apple product to overcome phony controversy : Beatweek Magazine .::. Size~: 41 KB | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > I never head of "Beat Week" magazine before today but it seems like an | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > irrelevant paper publication for stupid people obsessed with TV | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > personalities and musicians. | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > Their "About page" is hillarious: "We’ve been called “popular” by | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > Businessweek, our Editor in Chief Bill Palmer has been labeled an | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > “entrepreneur” by the New York Times" | Jun 27 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz | > Whoah! | Jun 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz | > ;-) | Jun 27 08:26 |
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| schestowitz | Goblin responds... | Jun 28 00:54 |
| schestowitz | "Firstly David nor anyone else is fooling me, you yourself were burned by allegations of others so i hope you see my point of two sides to every tale and that I am only interested in take as I find. David has made his comments public and encourages people to judge him on them. I share that ethos and whilst I agree no more with David now than I did before, at least I can now debate that difference without it defending into an argument | Jun 28 00:54 |
| schestowitz | All I'm interested in is debate and that's why I encourage ms employees to comment on my blog. None of my opinions have changed and neither have the people I hold in high regard changed either. I publicly support you because I agree with much of your work, as I say I am not part of a group which supports something merely because its foss or linux. Just for a minute let's consider this recent incident with David and atlas, read | Jun 28 00:54 |
| schestowitz | how atlas comes across to the casual reader, a child who is quite willing to contradict and insult at a moments notice who has a following of only one. That says much regardless of who is right.... It is up to David to justify the allegations against him, but just like the allegations against you, I would always say to people there is often two sides to every story and people should conduct their own research.....what's so bad about | Jun 28 00:54 |
| schestowitz | that?" | Jun 28 00:54 |
| schestowitz | BTW, there's this long response from him: | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Firstly if Chips has disappointment, i. expect get it directly not through proxy. Secondly I would like to see where I have defended anyone to the detriment of chips...or anyone with the exception of atlas. | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | I think maybe it best if we merely agree to differ and move on, you've commented on none of the points I made to you in a previous email and now gone from one net user to another, all the while ignoring my point that I'm not infact agreeing with anyone, merely entering into polite debate with another. | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | The allegations about David might be right it they might be wrong, but whatever they are, they don't involve me and I have endorsed nothing. By your reckoning I should be ignoring you (as I've had many allegations about you backed up with witnesses, I should be ignoring chips as I have the same, I should be ignoring most of the people that enter your chatroom and I should also ignore many mainstream reporters and coders....I've | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | received allegations on them all... | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Better solution is to take as I find and if people cannot handle me treating everyone in the way they treat me then as I say, sorry, but I'm not changing. | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | As for the disruption or civil war you mentioned in regards to David, I've had very few conversations with him and the biggest use of my time is responding to members of your chat room who seem unable to handle my view that I take responsibility for my own actions not others. The majority of my readership i suggest like me don't care, this is not about my it or tech opinion, it is about my ethos of being polite to everyone who offers | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | me the same. | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Please feel free to paste that in your chat room. | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | I have wasted far too much time in this already and I did intend to post a few more articles on my site. | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | As for Atlas, can I now challenge you over your association with him? He seems to think that the variations of the goblin nick (the extra __goblin) etc is shifting, when intact is is when multiple machines are on the same net connection and in anycase its not exactly hard to see they are all the same person. Nevertheless atlas wrote an article on it claiming,shifting and zealotry, yet you still associate with him.....can I ask you | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | to stop? - of course not and I wouldn't ask you to. What I do want to be distanced from is his childish antics which pour scorn onto the channel (and that is not coming from David) atlas may well be right about David with his allegations I don't know, but that wasn't the issue I took with atlas. | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Can we now please lay this to rest. | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | ======= | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | end quote== | Jun 28 01:06 |
| schestowitz | ender: | Jun 28 01:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 28 01:07 |
| schestowitz | What does goblin have to do with anything? | Jun 28 01:07 |
| schestowitz | He just talks to Lefty a bit on twitter, he has nothing to do with Lefty. He's not even on Lefty's 'side'. | Jun 28 01:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 28 01:07 |
| schestowitz | What a mess | Jun 28 01:07 |
| schestowitz | STUPID ACCESS TROLL IS RUINING EVERYTHING | Jun 28 01:07 |
| schestowitz | Causing arguments and stuff | Jun 28 01:07 |
| schestowitz | I hope Apple just burns and dies like Microsoft | Jun 28 01:08 |
| schestowitz | They produce ubertrolls like ACCESStroll | Jun 28 01:08 |
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| Aondo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1zySeNpW20 | Jun 28 14:53 |
| techrights-local | Title: YouTube- Java 4-Ever Trailer .::. Size~: 97.58 KB | Jun 28 14:53 |
| Aondo | quite funny :D | Jun 28 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | Aondo: it's already on techrights as ogg | Jun 28 17:07 |
| Aondo | ok hehe | Jun 28 17:08 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/06/25/javazone-trailer/ | Jun 28 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Our server is borderline dead | Jun 28 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Traffic | Jun 28 17:08 |
| schestowitz | many people watch Bilski | Jun 28 17:09 |
| NZheretic | http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1700908&cid=32717542 | Jun 28 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.womensenews.org/story/women-in-science/100623/it-jobs-offer-growth-women-are-bailing-out | Jun 29 20:50 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 30 16:12:26 2010 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 30 16:12 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | Jun 30 16:12 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:18:45 2010 | Jun 30 16:12 | |
| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | Jun 30 16:12 | |
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