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schestowitzWhoa. http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Samsung-20nmclass-NAND-flash/?kc=rssApr 21 00:06
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schestowitzIt's getting cold here againApr 21 00:07
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/69764.htmlApr 21 00:08
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_goblinright off to bed.Apr 21 00:12
_goblinsmoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.Apr 21 00:12
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schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-yahoo-buys-the-me.me-domain-for-its-twitter-like-microblogging-site/Apr 21 00:13
TechrightsBotTitle: Yahoo Buys The Me.me Domain For Its Twitter-Like Microblogging Site| paidContent .::. Size~: 29.57 KBApr 21 00:14
schestowitzMe.meApr 21 00:14
schestowitzMicrosoft.MicrosoftApr 21 00:14
schestowitzCause Microsoft's clones failedApr 21 00:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I'm smoking some bread for sardines..... no kipperApr 21 00:14
schestowitzhttp://www.criticalcold.com/?p=1Apr 21 00:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Criticalcold the edge of Cool  » Blog Archive   » Most expensive laptop ever, 24k gold and diamond macbook .::. Size~: 20.83 KBApr 21 00:26
schestowitzWhat a waste of metalApr 21 00:26
Omar87Anyone using Wimax here?Apr 21 00:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Another EU browser ballot bug: now it's not random at all - Did anyone not see this coming from Microsoft? http://tinyurl.com/y6hw34xApr 21 00:41
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCkADmNdNoApr 21 00:51
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- The Evidence For The Big Bang In 10 Little Minutes .::. Size~: 87.75 KBApr 21 00:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @drgrist wish @LisaPJackson wdn't say regulation kills #innovation. Regulation often prompts innovation //precisely! a.k.a. #creativityApr 21 00:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @edgargoncalves Early Reg closes soon for European #Lisp Symposium 6-7 May,Lisbon Portugal http://bit.ly/aOeDal //wish i could be there:)Apr 21 00:54
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cubezzzseems like all the ISPs want rid of ftpApr 21 01:36
cubezzzI can't ftp into my server from rogersApr 21 01:36
tessier_FTP is evil.Apr 21 01:36
tessier_I don't support it either.Apr 21 01:36
tessier_I moved us off of ftp onto sftp.Apr 21 01:37
tessier_Which is basically scp.Apr 21 01:37
cubezzzwhy is ftp evil?Apr 21 01:37
cubezzznot secure enough?Apr 21 01:37
tessier_The primary reason is that it sends passwords in the clear.Apr 21 01:37
cubezzzahApr 21 01:37
tessier_The secondary reason is that it is not friendly to NAT. Although NAT is the real evil in that case.Apr 21 01:37
tessier_It not only sends passwords in the clear but the data as well.Apr 21 01:37
cubezzzwell it is oldApr 21 01:39
cubezzzi guess it's OK for anonymous ftp stillApr 21 01:40
cubezzzsome of the mailing list archives still use ftpApr 21 01:43
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cubezzzthe PBS special "Earth Days" is definitely worth a watchApr 21 02:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Kellbo0 .@MusiCalleri i theorise most cat avatars are actually people but cd u say smth only a human wd know? //OR, smth only a cat wouldApr 21 02:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@H_FJ guess it really was an #iphone4g prototype. http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/04/20/1346208Apr 21 02:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #CS5 pricing clearly milking #monopoly: AUD $4344, really, #Adobe? REALLY? godsend for competition that WILL eventually kill you #photoshopApr 21 02:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] (And I say that as a professional #Adobe user since 1987...the party won't last forever) #photoshop #illustrator #indesign #postscriptApr 21 02:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] A Call For Disclosure - Who Do The Professionals Represent And Why Are They Hiding The Connection? http://bit.ly/b108vtApr 21 02:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Stars. check. Stripes. check. Racist. check. Dumbass. check. Blocked. check.Apr 21 03:21
cubezzzbest computer evar!Apr 21 03:23
cubezzzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vjb_LqYOMwApr 21 03:24
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Best Portable Computer EVAR! .::. Size~: 83.29 KBApr 21 03:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Commercial #whaling again? NO! Sign #avaaz petition against this outrage. http://www.avaaz.org/en/whales_under_threatApr 21 03:52
TechrightsBotTitle: WHALES UNDER THREAT! .::. Size~: 52.53 KBApr 21 03:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @wikileaks: WikiLeaks facebook page deleted together with 30,000 fans... boiler plate response includes "..promotes illegal acts..."Apr 21 04:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @wikileaks Centralized control of social nets & communications inherently dangerous //never too late to boycott #facebook cc @schestowitzApr 21 04:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreeGreece #US #Navy to launch 'Green' Fleet (weapons of oxymoronic power) http://tinyurl.com/y2r3l36 // will inflate #biofuel menaceApr 21 04:43
TechrightsBotTitle: US Navy to launch Great Green Fleet |World news |The Guardian .::. Size~: 70.69 KBApr 21 04:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Thankyou! RT @edwardvirtually #climategate itself is bullshit RT @clevrone760 <— not-so-clever-one @ishtarmuzApr 21 04:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreeGreece Goldman Says SEC Case Hinges on Actions of One Employee // LOLOLOLL #ROFLMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAAHLOLOLOLO #LOL HEHEHEHEHEHEHAAAApr 21 04:47
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DaemonFCI got the first section of my new wall in placeApr 21 04:59
DaemonFCmade from remnants salvaged from the "flower box"Apr 21 04:59
DaemonFCthey're advertising hair clippers nowApr 21 05:24
DaemonFCmore people unemployed and back to the old fashioned bowl cut?Apr 21 05:24
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DaemonFCFedora is moving up on DistrowatchApr 21 05:46
DaemonFC#2 distributionApr 21 05:47
DaemonFCgetting closer to UbuntuApr 21 05:47
WireWulfniceApr 21 05:48
WireWulfyum install sammich Apr 21 05:48
WireWulf:PApr 21 05:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Back from dinner with a pal. Was fun. :-)Apr 21 05:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Echinacea: An ancient African word meaning "tastes like crap".Apr 21 06:02
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Omar87LOL! The e-mail that I never received . :-PApr 21 06:22
WireWulfyum fuck my emailZApr 21 06:23
Omar87WireWulf, one of them MS toys told me on twitter that he'll send me an e-mail. But, so far, I haven't received anything other spam. :PApr 21 06:25
Omar87WireWulf, I think he wants to invite me to become a MVP! :DApr 21 06:26
WireWulfsigh xsaddly i am on my win7 lappyApr 21 06:26
WireWulf:PApr 21 06:26
WireWulflol sounds like is is a idiotApr 21 06:26
WireWulfbut then i don't exspect M$ users to coded to the weird and creepy sounds of tools songs eitherApr 21 06:27
Omar87WireWulf, I've been pester a bunch of MS kool-aiders a lot lately, and he's one of them.Apr 21 06:28
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WireWulfawe i scared him offApr 21 06:29
DaemonFC"There's a way to win at cat and mouse, don't be the mouse!" -Cat on Red Dwarf :)Apr 21 06:39
WireWulf"Life is but insanity, so why not be insane?" - some random guyApr 21 06:41
DaemonFC"Crazy white man" -Navajo Code Talker phrase for Adolf HitlerApr 21 06:42
DaemonFC:DApr 21 06:42
WireWulf"Insanity is but a reflection of ones true nature combined with brilliance" - psy101 profApr 21 06:46
MinceRnot everyone who's insane is brilliantApr 21 06:49
WireWulfMinceR there are a good fewApr 21 06:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #YouTube pulls #Downfall (Bruno Ganz as Hit1er) scene dub parodies. What a relief. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/04/21/0134205Apr 21 06:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] While clearly #fairuse, disagree w/ #eff that the dubs were "consistently entertaining". About as funny as a #rickroll http://bit.ly/9hlpcbApr 21 07:01
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MinceRthere's no accounting for tasteApr 21 07:12
WireWulftaste is relativeApr 21 07:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 thanks for the headsupApr 21 07:51
WireWulfsudo xtop making me a smmichApr 21 07:57
MinceRhttp://url.is/3ecApr 21 07:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Btw, jonobacon.org shotofjaq.org and kryogenix.org are all down - some kind of networking problems. We hope to be back soon!Apr 21 08:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jmcesteves: Any bets on black rectangles? RT @jerezim Official #ACTA release expected anytime soon on http://is.gd/bBEqPApr 21 08:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Here is a screen shot of my current Ubuntu Lucid Lynx desktop! http://twitpic.com/1h89fjApr 21 08:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Apple and #Microsoft Operating Systems Are Unethical: New Examples http://ur1.ca/w73x #freespeech #censorshipApr 21 08:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Goldman Sachs attempting the 'bad apples' defence. Next, the Nuremberg defence? And so the game plods on...Apr 21 08:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jerezim: ⬛ ACTA: Partial transparency isn't legitimacy http://ur1.ca/w74l #ACTA #PolicyLaundering @laquadratureApr 21 08:57
TechrightsBotTitle: ACTA: Partial transparency isn't legitimacy | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 23.72 KBApr 21 08:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @DanRebellato @ArmyofDave: Just downloaded the #Tesco #iPhone app. It appears to have broken the smaller shopping apps near it. // #snortApr 21 08:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 Goldman Sachs attempting the 'bad apples' defence. Next, the Nuremberg defence? And so the game plods on...Apr 21 09:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ml2mst Here is a screen shot of my current Ubuntu Lucid Lynx desktop! http://twitpic.com/1h89fjApr 21 09:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft 's Browser Ballot is Broken Again and #InternetExplorer 8 is Critically Flawed http://ur1.ca/w77t #securityApr 21 09:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @talkoss We are sending a professional film crew to record Ogg Camp so that we can have the highest Quality videos possibleApr 21 09:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] OpenDocument Format (ODF) Shows That It Would Have Been Better If #IBM Bought #Sun http://ur1.ca/w7fdApr 21 10:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @ml2mst Here is a screen shot of my current Ubuntu Lucid Lynx desktop! http://twitpic.com/1h89fjApr 21 10:08
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sebsebsebHi who's here?Apr 21 10:12
*amarsh04 is hereApr 21 10:13
sebsebsebok good someoneApr 21 10:15
sebsebsebright I have a screen/monitor story hrmApr 21 10:15
amarsh04yes?Apr 21 10:16
sebsebsebmy screen/monitor had a weird issue before, where it didn't show stuff on screen properly,  turning off the monitor sorted it, but then later onApr 21 10:16
sebsebsebit was like turning on not showing stuff on the screen properly,  but sometimes showing stuffApr 21 10:16
sebsebseband then soon after thatApr 21 10:16
sebsebsebit was just basically flashing, and woudn't show anything at all on it,  I checked the connection and such seemed okApr 21 10:16
sebsebsebI thought the monitor was broken, so got a new one  ordered which has comeApr 21 10:17
sebsebsebso there I am opening the box, thinking well i'll  turn the computer on with the old screen one last timeApr 21 10:17
amarsh04EDID information not being supplied ok to the video card, or do things go wrong after initially displaying ok?Apr 21 10:18
sebsebseband I do, and things show on it like before hrm,  (altough maybe it's showing some graphics not quite properly not sure about that, top of the Mandriva flower on the log in screen looks a bit odd though)Apr 21 10:18
amarsh04many people like running multiple monitors anywayApr 21 10:18
sebsebsebamarsh04: yeahApr 21 10:18
sebsebsebthat's what I was thinking as wellApr 21 10:18
sebsebsebmaybe I can have both connected and do dual monitorsApr 21 10:19
sebsebseblike proper geeksApr 21 10:19
sebsebsebor just keep this one as a spare or somethingApr 21 10:19
sebsebsebamarsh04: By the way any idea why the topic has changed for this channel?Apr 21 10:19
sebsebsebamarsh04: I think this is 22inch wide screen, plus the one I ordered isApr 21 10:20
amarsh04also, one can save the EDID data and use it statically in the xorg.conf so the monitor does not need to be switched on when booting in order for x.org to be correctly configuredApr 21 10:20
amarsh04no idea about the topic sebsebsebApr 21 10:20
sebsebsebamarsh04: also I was thinking maybe when I do virtual machinesApr 21 10:20
sebsebsebI could show the  vm in full screen on the other screen or somethingApr 21 10:21
sebsebsebamarsh04: thing is last time the computer was all weirdApr 21 10:21
sebsebsebI mean the monitorApr 21 10:21
sebsebsebthe computer was turned offApr 21 10:21
sebsebsebmonitor had power, and it was likeApr 21 10:22
sebsebsebflashing the power buttonApr 21 10:22
sebsebseband showing like grey things on the screenApr 21 10:22
amarsh04what video card do you have btw?Apr 21 10:22
sebsebsebhence thinking it had finally broke, plus I know I haven't been looking after this screen properlyApr 21 10:22
sebsebsebamarsh04: how to find that out lspci ?Apr 21 10:23
sebsebsebwell or something like thatApr 21 10:23
*amarsh04 spent AUD$30 on a used crt monitor to keep me runningApr 21 10:23
amarsh04yes, you can use lspci to find out the video cardApr 21 10:23
sebsebsebamarsh04: well the one I ordered was quite a bit reallyApr 21 10:23
sebsebsebjust liike this one, when this one got boughtApr 21 10:23
sebsebsebamarsh04: or maybe I should buy a lap top soon and then can use a real screen with it, or notApr 21 10:24
sebsebseb,butApr 21 10:24
sebsebseba part of me wants a lap topApr 21 10:24
sebsebsebsince I only have an old one that can't just use right now anywayApr 21 10:24
*amarsh04 hasn't ever had a laptopApr 21 10:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Xandros Shows Death by #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2010/04/21/richard-hillesley-on-xandros/Apr 21 10:24
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sebsebsebamarsh04: I guess this is itApr 21 10:25
sebsebseb02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)Apr 21 10:25
amarsh04ok, is it built in to the motherboard?Apr 21 10:25
sebsebsebamarsh04: don't know, this computer has never been opendedApr 21 10:25
sebsebsebamarsh04: however I guess it can be replaced quite easilly reallyApr 21 10:26
sebsebsebamarsh04: anyway to do dual monitors uhmmApr 21 10:27
sebsebsebwell I think this computer can only connect one monitor at the momentApr 21 10:27
amarsh04interesting, even my old radeon 9200se supports dual monitorsApr 21 10:27
sebsebsebamarsh04: oh I don't mean the cardApr 21 10:28
sebsebsebI meant the hardware on the back of the computerApr 21 10:28
sebsebsebamarsh04: altough I don't know much about hardwareApr 21 10:28
sebsebseb,but got someone in the family that  knows stuff here and there so :DApr 21 10:28
amarsh04ah, I'm not sure what's the best site for information on dual monitor setups. What os/distribution are you running on the machine?Apr 21 10:29
sebsebsebMandriva One 2010Apr 21 10:29
amarsh04ah, ok... I thought that Mandriva had good online supportApr 21 10:29
sebsebsebthere IRC is okApr 21 10:29
sebsebsebwhen I been thereApr 21 10:29
sebsebsebamarsh04: yeah dual  monitors I guessApr 21 10:30
sebsebsebuse this one as the second oneApr 21 10:30
sebsebseband the new one as the firstApr 21 10:30
sebsebsebor be a bit lame, and put this one away, and use it as a spare in the futureApr 21 10:30
amarsh04I use mailing lists for Debian, and also use irc with radeon, grub and the likeApr 21 10:30
sebsebsebamarsh04: however the card rightApr 21 10:31
sebsebseb,butApr 21 10:31
sebsebsebwhen the computer was offApr 21 10:31
sebsebseband that issue I mentionedApr 21 10:31
sebsebsebsurely that means something is wrong with this monitor?Apr 21 10:31
sebsebsebamarsh04: also how to connect two monitors into the computer?  I think this one can only connect one monitor at the moment,  but I don't knowApr 21 10:32
amarsh04yes, it could be. I know a few local places good for lcd monitor repair. If there are any reputable places around where you live that do tv/video repair they may be able to look at it for a fixed price and take that price off the cost of repair if you choose to go ahead with repairApr 21 10:33
sebsebsebamarsh04: oh repair nah I guess notApr 21 10:33
sebsebsebI mean this monitor will fail when it failsApr 21 10:33
sebsebsebI think it's on the verge nowApr 21 10:33
sebsebsebI thought it had before, but I guess notApr 21 10:33
sebsebsebamarsh04: what I am wondering about is how to connect two monitors into the computerApr 21 10:34
sebsebsebsince it seems that at the moment, this computer can only connect one monitorApr 21 10:34
amarsh04usually there will be two connectors on the video card, even if they are not identical (mix of vga/dvi/hdmi)Apr 21 10:35
sebsebsebon the video card itself?Apr 21 10:35
sebsebsebso not the back of the computer?Apr 21 10:35
amarsh04it would be either on the card itself or on the back of the computer caseApr 21 10:36
amarsh04with my onboard video, the vga and hdmi outputs are separate from where the cards sitApr 21 10:37
sebsebsebamarsh04: the screen connectorApr 21 10:38
sebsebsebconnects into something else that goes into the computerApr 21 10:38
sebsebsebat the back of the computerApr 21 10:38
sebsebsebamarsh04: not sure if you know what I meanApr 21 10:38
sebsebsebamarsh04: so I was thinking maybe some device is plugged in to the back,  that two screens can be connected to,  but I don't knowApr 21 10:40
amarsh04ok, I have vga and hdmi sockets on the back of my computer case - you may need to look up in google or wikipedia about vga, dvi and hdmi connectorsApr 21 10:40
sebsebsebamarsh04: well my Dad can help with this kind of thing even, when he get's back, butApr 21 10:40
amarsh04sometimes a dvi socket on the pc can supply two monitors. Apr 21 10:41
amarsh04you should find out more about your pc and its videoApr 21 10:41
sebsebsebyeah exactly hence the butApr 21 10:41
sebsebsebamarsh04: and I guess I should continue opening up the new screen, all that packaging, only got  box open so far,  then there's packing around the screen itself as wellApr 21 10:42
sebsebsebwhy return a new screen, when it seems the old one still works?  ,but probably still is on the verge of faiilngApr 21 10:42
amarsh04if you have the storage space it's probably worth keeping the new screenApr 21 10:43
amarsh04and old one, as long as they both workApr 21 10:43
sebsebsebamarsh04: yeah it's a desk,  that normalley gets filled up with stuff on it, but yes there's spaceApr 21 10:43
amarsh04hehehe, back later, watching evening newsApr 21 10:43
sebsebsebamarsh04: ok well thanksApr 21 10:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] "Couterfeiting" clearly just a "fool ya" term. Drop the #ACTA NOW! ♺ @hugoroy: Seen in #ACTA : "anti-hacking" (p. 27) #fsfe #gnu #fsfApr 21 10:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] SMEs who oppose software patents don't want to spend any significant amount of time and money on it: http://ur1.ca/w7xdApr 21 11:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Since "drop the act" means "stop pretending, I think "Drop the #ACTA now! is a nice pun for an anti-ACTA demoApr 21 11:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: SMEs who oppose software patents don't want to spend any significant amount of time and money on it: http://ur1.ca/w7xdApr 21 11:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Support for #softwarepatents in New Zealand mostly comes from outsiders of the software industry http://ur1.ca/w80v #swpatApr 21 11:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Listening to S01E01 of @uupc whilst working. Man we had (and still have to some degree) shocking mic technique!Apr 21 11:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: #Nintendo Sued, #Apple Sues, Patents as Weapon for Sale http://techrights.org/2010/04/21/top-stories-about-sw-patents/Apr 21 11:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @hyperlocavore #Monbiot .com » An Eruption of Reality http://ow.ly/1B7Ia #peakoil #EyjafjallajökullApr 21 11:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You may need to temper your feelings of independence now or yo... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Apr 21 11:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Easyjet have stated they will be looking for compensation for volcano ash, are the public yet again to provide free insurance for companiesApr 21 11:27
sebsebsebschestowitz: Why the topic change?Apr 21 11:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Now download SchoolOS beta1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/schoolos/ #schoolos #monofree #linux #newdistroApr 21 11:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Philips: "frivolous lawsuits and high damages have triggered a public debate about the functioning of the entire system" http://ur1.ca/w8akApr 21 11:46
TechrightsBotTitle:  'Patent warming' threatens global innovation system .::. Size~: 18.51 KBApr 21 11:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA text released today, shows split over the scope, give me arguments to exclude patents out of the scope, cheap shot: http://ur1.ca/w8b1Apr 21 11:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: Philips: "frivolous lawsuits & high damages have triggered public debate about functioning of entire system" http://ur1.ca/w8akApr 21 11:54
TechrightsBotTitle:  'Patent warming' threatens global innovation system .::. Size~: 18.51 KBApr 21 11:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] SchoolOS beta1 - Available for Download http://post.ly/c3fAApr 21 11:56
TechrightsBotTitle:         SchoolOS beta1 - Available for Download - LUG@IITD Community Blog     .::. Size~: 26.99 KBApr 21 11:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@glynmoody $1.7 bln lost but not burning any fuel? // i'm no economist but that's capitalism; lose by not turning it over as fast as possblApr 21 12:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@glynmoody that's what's so awesome about building everything on non-renewable #energy sources ;-) #Monbiot: http://ow.ly/1B7IaApr 21 12:01
TechrightsBotTitle: http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010/04/20/an-eruption-of-reality/ .::. Size~: 3.97 KBApr 21 12:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Computers should make explosion sound effects when you do 'DROP DATABASE' and 'rm -rf' type commands.Apr 21 12:15
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cubezzz2hey folksApr 21 12:22
cubezzz2I can't get any video out of that ogv file from the techrights webpageApr 21 12:22
cubezzz2it's around 167 megs, is it just sound?Apr 21 12:23
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #ACTA supports corporate terrorism and the violation of your Constitutional rights. Remember this next time you vote. http://ur1.ca/w8i6Apr 21 12:23
TechrightsBotTitle: ACTA arrives (and it's gotten a tiny bit better) .::. Size~: 34.92 KBApr 21 12:23
cubezzz2the file is Patent_Absurdity_HQ_768kbit.ogvApr 21 12:25
amarsh04cubezzz2, I played it fine on my amd64 using vlc Apr 21 12:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Trident program typical of something being sold as the opposite of what it is. It doesn't make anyone safer. It puts us all in more danger.Apr 21 12:32
amarsh04onboard radeon 3200hd video btwApr 21 12:32
cubezzz2hmmm mplayer can't do itApr 21 12:32
cubezzz2I'll try vlcApr 21 12:33
amarsh04correction, some lag in motion video after still framesApr 21 12:33
cubezzz2I can't see video at all :)Apr 21 12:33
amarsh04I've had to keep both vlc and mplayer around for videos that one could handle but the other couldn't Apr 21 12:33
amarsh04what distro/kernel/video?Apr 21 12:33
cubezzz2it's fedora 12, using mplayer 4.4.3Apr 21 12:34
cubezzz2so pretty modernApr 21 12:34
amarsh04let me check versions I have on the amd64 machineApr 21 12:35
amarsh04mplayer 1.0~rc2git20100407-0.0Apr 21 12:36
amarsh04vlc 1.0.5-2Apr 21 12:36
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cubezzzit works in vlc on fedora 10Apr 21 13:00
cubezzzI can't seem to install vlc in fedora 12 Apr 21 13:00
cubezzzbut at least I can see it :)Apr 21 13:00
amarsh04ah ok, was just rebooting into kernel 2.6.33Apr 21 13:01
schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-will-google-fly-into-travel-search-with-a-1-billion-acquisition/Apr 21 13:05
TechrightsBotTitle: Will Google Fly Into Travel Search With A $1 Billion Acquisition?| paidContent .::. Size~: 29.49 KBApr 21 13:05
oiaohmNow wonder if they will combin that with there illness warning system.  schestowitzApr 21 13:08
*sebsebseb Thought Novell had maybe died when first seeing the topic changeApr 21 13:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @nsisodiya Now download SchoolOS beta1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/schoolos/ #schoolos #monofree #linux #newdistroApr 21 13:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Anyone know of a flash-based podcast streamer that could be fed an rss feed and play back episodes?Apr 21 13:08
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schestowitzsebsebseb: cause _goblin askedApr 21 13:10
sebsebsebschestowitz: What?Apr 21 13:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab: Philips: "frivolous lawsuits & high damages have triggered public debate about functioning of entire system" http://ur1.ca/w8akApr 21 13:11
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sebsebsebschestowitz: goblin asked?Apr 21 13:11
schestowitzcubezzz: which ogv file?Apr 21 13:12
schestowitz[12:25] <cubezzz2> the file is Patent_Absurdity_HQ_768kbit.ogvApr 21 13:12
schestowitzOh, that's not on our serverApr 21 13:13
schestowitzMaybe they changed the URL or mime-type or somethingApr 21 13:13
schestowitzApr 21 13:14
schestowitz[13:08] * sebsebseb Thought Novell had maybe died when first seeing the topic changeApr 21 13:14
schestowitzIt's for sale now (Novell)Apr 21 13:14
sebsebsebohApr 21 13:14
sebsebsebwell it was beforeApr 21 13:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] The idea of a flash based podcast player was for the joggler. The initial default firmware is mostly flash based UI.Apr 21 13:14
sebsebseb,but they refused the buy outApr 21 13:14
sebsebsebschestowitz: What so now you don't want to boycott them anymore, because they will be sold out or die soon?Apr 21 13:14
schestowitz_Goblin didn't like the adversary workApr 21 13:15
schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/21/education/21teachers.html NYT: Up to 300,000 public school jobs could be cutApr 21 13:15
TechrightsBotTitle: School Districts Warn of Even Deeper Teacher Cuts - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 69.29 KBApr 21 13:15
schestowitzsebsebseb: see older postsApr 21 13:15
schestowitzThey explain the reorganisation of the siteApr 21 13:15
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/category/site-news/Apr 21 13:15
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sebsebseboh okApr 21 13:16
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT @sankarshan: @RedHatNews: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download http://bit.ly/clv6qoApr 21 13:23
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oiaohmIntresting the school OS fork of ubuntu without mono.Apr 21 13:24
schestowitzFor schoolsApr 21 13:24
oiaohmRemember schools set the future of OS's.Apr 21 13:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody @DaHammerstein #ACTA text: includes copyright and patents of Sections 1 through 7 of Part II TRIPS. not "counterfeit" treatyApr 21 13:38
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sebsebsebamarsh04: HiApr 21 13:40
amarsh04hi sebsebsebApr 21 13:41
sebsebsebamarsh04: I  was just thinkingApr 21 13:41
sebsebsebI can have two computers :DApr 21 13:41
sebsebsebwellApr 21 13:41
sebsebsebI got old computer next to me, with broken graphics card or somethingApr 21 13:41
amarsh04I have two pc's but one monitor (-:Apr 21 13:41
sebsebseband now I got two monitors :DApr 21 13:41
sebsebsebthis old one seems to be working fine again hrmApr 21 13:42
sebsebseband yes it's annoying having to unplug monitorsApr 21 13:42
sebsebsebinto a computer to useApr 21 13:42
sebsebsebamarsh04: even got an old PS/2 (or whatever it's called)  mouse  near meApr 21 13:42
sebsebsebwhich will go in the old computerApr 21 13:42
sebsebsebsince it's got one of those ports, this one doesn'tApr 21 13:42
sebsebsebold computer even has a floppy disc drive again something this one doesn't have, and I do have some old floppy discs  around that I would like to use reallyApr 21 13:43
sebsebseband can get a keyboard from down stairs,  plus it has data from years ago, that I want to get hold of at some stage, on one of the hard diskApr 21 13:43
sebsebsebI am quite likeing the idea, of getting the old computer working again, and then having two computersApr 21 13:44
sebsebsebamarsh04: rather old though, 128MB RAM,  not sure if can upgrade the RAM or not to a decant amount yetApr 21 13:44
oiaohmI currently have 3 in this room.Apr 21 13:44
oiaohmAll 3 work.Apr 21 13:45
sebsebseband my Dad will have to help me set up this stuff, since I suck at hardwareApr 21 13:45
oiaohmOne does really sux.Apr 21 13:45
schestowitzhttp://www.thinkovation.com/blog/2010/04/constantin-film-blocks-hitler-parody-videos/Apr 21 13:45
oiaohmPent 233 with 128 megs of ram kind really suxs.Apr 21 13:45
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sebsebseboiaohm: I have an old lap top here some where as well 6GB hard disk, XP Pro, but can't just use that at the momentApr 21 13:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @vinaysreenivasa: yaardo duddu yelammana jaatre RT @sunil_abraham: #UID work is at least millions of dollars of o... http://bit.ly/9E8rmRApr 21 13:45
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sebsebsebplus I think some where here there might still be that old Windows 3.1 lap top, that was bought really cheap.  from one of my Dad's old companiesApr 21 13:45
sebsebseboiaohm: yeah the hardware in this old computer, is quite sucky really whatever it isApr 21 13:46
sebsebseb,butApr 21 13:46
sebsebsebas far as I am concerned it has two advantages over this newer computerApr 21 13:46
sebsebseb1. it has a floppy disc driveApr 21 13:46
sebsebseb2. it can use a PS/2 mouseApr 21 13:47
amarsh04even my new pc can use a ps/2 mouseApr 21 13:47
sebsebsebas for a keyboard I think there's one down stairs I can use,  and then I would give this rather used keyboard, to the old computerApr 21 13:47
sebsebsebamarsh04: only USB ports on here and suchApr 21 13:47
sebsebsebnot the old portApr 21 13:47
amarsh04ah okApr 21 13:48
sebsebsebhardly any pre built computers get sold with PS/2 these last few years, if anyApr 21 13:48
sebsebsebthey wanted to force USB on usApr 21 13:48
sebsebsebthe hardware manufacturesApr 21 13:48
sebsebseband so bye bye PS/2Apr 21 13:49
sebsebsebwhich OS for old computer hrm, well it's got  Ubuntu Edgy Eft on one of the hard disks at the momentApr 21 13:49
sebsebsebat least it died with a Linux distro on it :)Apr 21 13:49
sebsebsebwell if I remember correctly it's that version.  well modern distros can be run with 128MB RAM, it's justApr 21 13:51
sebsebsebtake Ubuntu for example,  before the desktop Live CD would boot up,   would need a 512MB  or so SWAP partition on thereApr 21 13:51
sebsebsebmore modern versions of distros above evenApr 21 13:51
sebsebsebold computer can run XP, but of course I don't really want to do that, but might  if/when it's working againApr 21 13:52
sebsebseboiaohm: yeah 128MB RAM PCApr 21 13:53
sebsebseboiaohm: uhmmm probably can't   give it much more RAM, if any?Apr 21 13:53
sebsebsebmaybe it can be upgraded to 512MB ,but probably can't handle 1GB or more?Apr 21 13:53
schestowitz"@glynmoody identica has other nicer features that Twitter lacks"Apr 21 13:56
schestowitzhttp://www.thinq.co.uk/news/2010/4/14/sony-refuses-to-sanction-ps3-refunds/Apr 21 13:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Sony refuses to sanction PS3 refunds | THINQ.co.uk .::. Size~: 31.05 KBApr 21 13:56
oiaohmIt did have 3 times that in it at one point.  sebsebsebApr 21 13:59
oiaohmIts down to its last ram stick that works. sebsebsebApr 21 13:59
sebsebseboiaohm: oh RAM failed in it?Apr 21 13:59
sebsebsebor wasn't compatible?Apr 21 13:59
oiaohmFailed over time.Apr 21 14:01
oiaohmThe machine is over 10 years old. sebsebsebApr 21 14:01
oiaohmAnd it still on it first motherboard cpu and powersupply.Apr 21 14:01
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oiaohmMy other machines are amd 939.  They seam to have lasted quite well.Apr 21 14:02
oiaohmHave to update at some point.Apr 21 14:02
sebsebseboiaohm: maybe if I do the two computers, i'll buy a new pair of speakers as well or notApr 21 14:04
sebsebsebwell maybeApr 21 14:04
sebsebseb,but I mainly play musicApr 21 14:04
sebsebsebin a way maybe I should have got that computer working again a while ago, on the other hand, I was ok with just this oneApr 21 14:05
sebsebseboiaohm: however it's a bit silly to have a computer next to me, that could work agian,  and not do anything about it, espesailly now with two monitorsApr 21 14:05
sebsebsebLinux breahts a lot of life into old hardwareApr 21 14:05
sebsebsebas I used to say to people every now and again on IRC or whatever online, and will again in the futureApr 21 14:06
sebsebseboh  didn't put in the second bitApr 21 14:06
sebsebsebdepending on the distroApr 21 14:06
oiaohmOne of my next computers is going to be build from a power effectiveness point of view.Apr 21 14:06
sebsebseboh?Apr 21 14:06
oiaohmJust for a project.Apr 21 14:07
oiaohmSee how long I can run on a car battery.Apr 21 14:07
sebsebsebrun the computerApr 21 14:08
sebsebsebfrom a car battery?Apr 21 14:08
sebsebsebinstead of plugged in?Apr 21 14:08
oiaohmYep.Apr 21 14:09
oiaohmhttp://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1696  Nice video. Apr 21 14:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/2166348,bloody-12-hours-chicago-shootings-041610.articleApr 21 14:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@daveweigel #GEICO voice actor leaves voicemail mocking #FreedomWorks...gets fired. http://bit.ly/a9Wq4k // Meet The New Dixie Chicks!Apr 21 14:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Now listening to S02E02 of @uupc to see how we moved on after 20 episodes..Apr 21 14:25
schestowitzoiaohm: I've just posted this videoApr 21 14:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ogg Version for @linuxfoundation Video: Promoting GNU/Linux for Recycling Reasons (Video) http://ur1.ca/w93jApr 21 14:26
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schestowitzhttp://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.taz.de%2F1%2Fnetz%2Fnetzpolitik%2Fartikel%2F1%2Fdie-rache-der-nerds%2F&sl=auto&tl=enApr 21 14:30
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schestowitzhttp://www.buzzmachine.com/2010/04/18/from-a-cloud-to-the-cloud-how-ash-kills-airmail/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+buzzmachine+(BuzzMachine)&utm_content=Google+ReaderApr 21 14:35
schestowitz"Right now, it is impossible to get a document to or around Europe with speed. People can’t fly. Mail can’t fly. Even when the air clears, there’ll be diminished faith in the ability of the post office — not to mention FedEx, DHL, and UPS — to make speedy delivery of documents. Any company or agency with an ounce of strategic sense is creating a plan now to convert to digital. It is speedier (instant!) and more certain (Apr 21 14:35
TechrightsBotTitle: From a cloud to the cloud: How ash kills airmail «  BuzzMachine .::. Size~: 47.88 KBApr 21 14:35
schestowitzguaranteed) and cheaper (free) and even earns green points (no dead trees, no fuel, no fumes). What’s not to love? "Apr 21 14:35
schestowitzI hadn't thought of that!Apr 21 14:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] There is two things which need to changes (1) FSH (2) Packages Management - Linux for common publicApr 21 14:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody YouGov/Murdoch Distort Poll To Stop Lib Dem Momentum - http://bit.ly/dsYZPk dirty tricks department?Apr 21 14:44
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schestowitzhttp://earth2tech.com/2010/04/19/how-much-energy-per-tweet/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+OmMalik+(GigaOM)&utm_content=Google+Reader "Perhaps if you just turned off your compute for a week, I could use mine to actually get work done. And turn off some of these blog ads. I’m sure lots of energy can be saved that way. Imagine how much could be save if this blog had no commenting system."Apr 21 14:50
TechrightsBotTitle:   How Much Energy Per Tweet? .::. Size~: 77.66 KBApr 21 14:50
schestowitzAh. I believe the word is pwned... they run out of analogiesApr 21 14:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Tomorrow, Sonic Youth. A week after, Mão Morta. Yummy!Apr 21 15:09
schestowitz"I wouldn't have believed you if you'd told me 20 years ago that America would someday be routinely firing missiles into countries it’s not at war with. For that matter, I wouldn't have believed you if you'd told me a few months ago that America would soon be plotting the assassination of an American citizen who lives abroad."Apr 21 15:14
schestowitzhttp://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/13/title-2/Apr 21 15:14
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schestowitzhttp://mashable.com/2010/04/21/d-shape-sand-printer/Apr 21 15:15
TechrightsBotTitle: Huge 3D Printer Makes Buildings Out of Sand [VIDEO] .::. Size~: 73.19 KBApr 21 15:15
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/governmentrequests/Apr 21 15:17
TechrightsBotTitle: Government requests directed to Google and YouTube .::. Size~: 2.02 KBApr 21 15:17
schestowitzEven govt. sites now give Google visitors' IPsApr 21 15:18
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schestowitzGr...... http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/04/microsoft-throws-its-weight-behind-web-open-font-format.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssApr 21 15:23
schestowitz"@glynmoody that's the same co. that promotes font DRM; Peter Bright , whom you cite, is a Microsoft booster"Apr 21 15:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @hugoroy: #ACTA : threats to Free Software http://blogs.fsfe.org/hugo/2010/04/acta-threats-to-free-software/ #fsfe #gnu #fsf #aprilApr 21 15:38
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Omar87Hi all.Apr 21 15:39
Omar87Hi, Roy.Apr 21 15:39
schestowitzHey, what's new?Apr 21 15:42
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Omar87schestowitz, someone on twitter criticized me for emphasizing the issue of the recent sexting ads by M$.Apr 21 15:47
Omar87schestowitz, He said: [@Omar_S_Hafez if sexting made u feel this way I suggest u see a doctor or few doctors. One might not be able to cure u :/]Apr 21 15:47
Omar87schestowitz, by using this tone of hypocritical idiocy with me, he managed to press the critical button, so I decided to make him feel like a filthy little germ, so that's how I replied:Apr 21 15:51
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Omar87schestowitz, [@mishab No. It's not about sexting. But thanks for proving that you MS worshipers are the most hypocrite human creatures ever].Apr 21 15:52
Omar87[@mishab And yes. I'm not sorry to tell you that you sir, are big fat and chubby lump of human-shaped hypocrisy. :-)]Apr 21 15:52
Omar87[@mishab I'm NOT sorry, because u just proved it yourself. Ur tone is the typical hypocritical tone of a pathetic MS sheep. :-) (No, offense)]Apr 21 15:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Estão mesmo a pedir por Software Livre ♺ @JNegocios: PSD propõe corte de 15% na aquisição de bens e serviços do Estado http://xl.pt/r/c46apxApr 21 15:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Jornal de Negócios Online .::. Size~: 34.6 KBApr 21 15:56
Omar87schestowitz, These people do not deserve to be respected, imho. These people are mentally ill, and the only way to cure them is to sneer them.Apr 21 15:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning all! How are we all doing? Unfortunately the Bacon illness continues to linger...no one likes a Bacon illness...Apr 21 16:07
schestowitzHeh. I'm watching this decent video..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RkbDUc9HBAApr 21 16:10
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schestowitzOmar87: yeah, maybe the "Microsoft faithful"Apr 21 16:10
schestowitzThey defend it all all costsApr 21 16:10
schestowitzGralla, Bishop...Apr 21 16:11
schestowitzNext time Microsoft should broadcast pr0n for "KIN" and we'll see what defence Microsoft boosters come up withApr 21 16:11
Omar87schestowitz, pr0n? or p0rn?Apr 21 16:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jerezim The "Vivendi amendment" of French DADVSI (EUCD transp. equiv DMCA) in #ACTA! Censorship of anti-DRM tools: http://ur1.ca/w9l0Apr 21 16:18
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*WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulfApr 21 16:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Yet another "PC malware" story with no mention of Windows or Microsoft - DANGER High School Journalists at work http://tinyurl.com/y68vegjApr 21 16:27
TechrightsBotTitle: BBC News - Zeus banking virus is back warns security firm .::. Size~: 48.8 KBApr 21 16:27
WireWulfyum instsll KINApr 21 16:29
schestowitzfsck /kinApr 21 16:29
WireWulfrm -frv /dev/KINApr 21 16:30
WireWulfschestowitz hate to out do you thereApr 21 16:31
WireWulfwished i could rm -frv Windows7 atmApr 21 16:31
schestowitzVIsta7?Apr 21 16:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Mark talks about Ayatana Indicators - http://is.gd/bCbiJ #ayatana #ubuntu #designApr 21 16:35
WireWulf:P more like vista2Apr 21 16:35
TechrightsBotTitle: Mark Shuttleworth  » Blog Archive   » Ubuntus Indicator Menus  Ayatana bearing fruit .::. Size~: 30.93 KBApr 21 16:35
Omar87schestowitz, it seems the ACTA threat is not going away anytime soon.Apr 21 16:35
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/12577581182 "@schestowitz indeed; but unfortunately lacks the huge following Twitter has..."Apr 21 16:35
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / Glyn Moody: @schestowitz indeed; but u ... .::. Size~: 10.71 KBApr 21 16:35
schestowitzWe need to help grow identicaApr 21 16:35
Omar87agreed.Apr 21 16:37
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/12578513415 "@glynmoody the Microsoft open fonts thing... he and Emil spin a lot of Microsoft at Ars"Apr 21 16:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / Glyn Moody: @schestowitz sorry, where  ... .::. Size~: 10.63 KBApr 21 16:38
schestowitzHe cited some Microsoft fithfulApr 21 16:38
schestowitzThen commended MicrosoftApr 21 16:38
schestowitzI showed him what he did..Apr 21 16:38
schestowitz*faithfulApr 21 16:38
schestowitzHeh.Apr 21 16:38
schestowitz*filthfulApr 21 16:38
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/MS_RT_BOT/statuses/12579889787Apr 21 16:38
Omar87:-)Apr 21 16:38
schestowitzMicrosoft SPAM botApr 21 16:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / Retweet MS: RT @schestowitz @glynmoody ... .::. Size~: 10.83 KBApr 21 16:38
schestowitzBallmer's amplifierApr 21 16:39
Omar87schestowitz, lol. A MS puppet told me yesterday that he was going to send me an e-mail at night, but it seems that either the email was abducted by aliens on its way to my inbox, or that it was never sent at all. :-PApr 21 16:42
WireWulfALIENSApr 21 16:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Today at 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern / 7pm GMT / 8pm CET - my live vidcast - see the topics for today's show at http://is.gd/bCcJF #ubuntuApr 21 16:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Gwibber in 'quite stable' shocker for me right now! Clocking up literally minutes of uptime!Apr 21 16:56
schestowitz"Apr 21 16:58
schestowitz@schestowitz I don't think I cited him, I pointed to the article; if that's misleading I'm sure it will be pointed outApr 21 16:58
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/29338717#notice-29405046Apr 21 16:58
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schestowitz"Apr 21 16:58
schestowitz"The software company's involvement emerged Monday with sponsorship of a newer effort at the World Wide Web Consortium to standardize Web-based fonts with technology called the Web Open Font Format (WOFF). "Apr 21 16:58
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20002919-264.htmlApr 21 16:58
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft sponsors new Web font standard | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 123.24 KBApr 21 16:58
schestowitzW3C... DRM...?Apr 21 16:58
schestowitzThere's HD and JPEG thingApr 21 16:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On train coming home, its unusually empty.....Apr 21 17:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and there's signalling problems.....annoying think is I've only got one stop to go.Apr 21 17:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin trekking with our Android?Apr 21 17:14
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse140/@openuniverse140] "fire love" mozilla fx yaoi art http://othaku.deviantart.com/art/FIRE-LOVE-yaoi-pic-63848124Apr 21 17:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] obrigação de utilizar open software em todos os serviços do Estado, poupando (...) 40.000.000€ (...) estima o PSD http://is.gd/bCfmFApr 21 17:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Não sei o que é "open software" mas presumo que se estejam a referir a "software aberto" vulgo "opensource" vulgo "Software Livre"Apr 21 17:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Biggest portuguese opposition party proposes to mandate usasge of "open software" for saving about 40 million € http://bit.ly/czv935Apr 21 17:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] mandatory use of open software in all State services, saving (...) 40.000.000€ (...) estimates PSD http://is.gd/bCfmF (in portuguese)Apr 21 17:35
TechrightsBotTitle: Sol .::. Size~: 75.7 KBApr 21 17:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] «the proposed savings are bigger than the return of the tax raise proposed in the Growth and Stability Plan the Government proposed»Apr 21 17:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] awful rail service as usual....been on this damn train an hour for a 25 minute journeyApr 21 17:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ok @htc now you're just taking the piss. http://bit.ly/bTE3xH "HTC confirms another delay to Hero upgrade"Apr 21 17:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Adobe Turns to #Linux After #Apple Snub http://techrights.org/2010/04/21/linux-android-win-after-apple-block/Apr 21 18:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Calls complete, and it is just about to turn "Death Metal o'Clock" here in the bay area. Grabbing headphones...Apr 21 18:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just to confirm, just because my last name is Bacon and I am sick, doesn't mean I have Swine Flu...At least I hope not... :-)Apr 21 18:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Autocomplete Failure or Human Failure Leaks Confidential UK #Database http://ur1.ca/wacp #privacyApr 21 18:19
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MinceRhow are you gentlemen !!Apr 21 18:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Yep.....and how great it is! It is the only thing that keeps me sane on the train home.....Apr 21 18:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft continues to receive a free ticket when its long-neglected flaws lead to chaos http://ur1.ca/waieApr 21 18:37
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schestowitzIt's funny how the anti-RMS folks say today that he has a GOd complexApr 21 18:46
schestowitzGiven that he believes in no deitiesApr 21 18:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin ah, well, a few dozens of us enjoy your posts from the train in real time (IRC)Apr 21 18:48
WireWulfi R is not GOdApr 21 18:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Richard Stallman’s Life Dedication to Software Freedom http://techrights.org/2010/04/21/wired-on-rms/Apr 21 19:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Meh, I'm also 97% more nerdy than the rest: http://tinyurl.com/29ou9nv http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_nt2.php?nt1 but I must say, I cheated!Apr 21 19:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] I haven't code in ASM for at least a decade and I use Firefox in stead of lynx. Shame on me :-DApr 21 19:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to kick off At Home With Jono Bacon - my live videocast - in the next few mins - join us at http://is.gd/bCnak :-)Apr 21 19:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “Our products just aren’t engineered for security.” ~Brian Valentine, Microsoft executiveApr 21 19:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Kin advert – Microsoft gets it wrong and then wrong again? http://tinyurl.com/29ca95h #microsoft #kin #failApr 21 19:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Smearing #FreeSoftware is a Terrible Business/Marketing Strategy http://ur1.ca/ward #jive #fud #drupalApr 21 19:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Glad I can entertain....I'll start twitpic'ing next....the power of Android! I wish i'd discovered it sooner.Apr 21 19:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez The big question is....what exactly are its products engineered for? ;) #microsoft #failApr 21 19:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Support a new blogger and read about his Microsoft free life: http://becausefreedommatters.blogspot.com/ #linux #foss #gnuApr 21 19:25
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Omar87_Goblin, what's the "It's Party time video" got to do with the article, I didn't get it.Apr 21 19:29
Omar87?Apr 21 19:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @pvilela: RT @OSOReu: Italy to begin an open source competence centre http://tinyurl.com/y56nd87Apr 21 19:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] eBay founder launches paid-for online news service http://is.gd/bCoehApr 21 19:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Italy to begin an open source competence centre &mdash;  .::. Size~: 29.62 KBApr 21 19:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin obviously, it's products are designed to give u the illusion that you're enjoying the merits of latest technology. #micrsoft #failApr 21 19:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin or "engineered" #microsoft #failApr 21 19:34
MinceR(javascript) http://craftymind.com/factory/html5video/CanvasVideo.htmlApr 21 19:34
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_Goblinomar87: Its another failed advert that was scorned by the consumerApr 21 19:36
_Goblinomar87: its to demostrate not only how out of touch MS is, but also that the mainstream user is picking up on that too.Apr 21 19:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez ah...its the illusion. A little bit like the Windows party ads where people pretended to be enjoying themselves..I see now ;)Apr 21 19:39
Omar87_Goblin, I see. :PApr 21 19:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin It's always been about illusion to those huge corporate demons, not just in technology, even in food and clothing. #consumerism.Apr 21 19:43
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_GoblinRight...Im off to watch a bit of wrestling I think....Apr 21 19:51
schestowitzThe Bible is such a wonderful book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:David-goliath28.jpgApr 21 19:54
TechrightsBotTitle: File:David-goliath28.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 27.95 KBApr 21 19:54
schestowitzI was looking for a pic for ACTAApr 21 19:54
Omar87schestowitz, by the way, the David-Goliath story is also mentioned in the Quran. :-)Apr 21 20:03
schestowitz"@schestowitz: I just wish that they would release their code and give us a chance to make flash not run like crap under linux." http://identi.ca/conversation/29347035#notice-29419149Apr 21 20:06
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schestowitzOmar87: I was being sarcastic thoughApr 21 20:06
schestowitzBiblical stories are violent and racistApr 21 20:06
Omar87schestowitz, I know you were.Apr 21 20:07
schestowitzWe have better books todayApr 21 20:07
schestowitzWe also have a society that doesn't live in danger from disease and predatorsApr 21 20:07
Omar87schestowitz, Like those vulgar and racist books of Richard Dawkins?Apr 21 20:07
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcrJ2HFKogsApr 21 20:08
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- God: The Love Born of Terror. .::. Size~: 92.19 KBApr 21 20:08
MinceRstrange, i somehow missed the vulgar and racist parts of The God DelusionApr 21 20:08
schestowitzOmar87: it's a humourous bookApr 21 20:08
schestowitzHe says so anywayApr 21 20:08
schestowitzHitchens is the vulgar oneApr 21 20:08
MinceRbut i guess they have to put all the smears they can think of to keep people from reading Dawkins' books :>Apr 21 20:09
Omar87schestowitz, Hitchens and Dawkins are both champions when to comes to bashing religions without a tiny little logical evidence to back their accusations.Apr 21 20:11
Omar87when *it*Apr 21 20:11
MinceR"without a tiny little logical evidence"? someone apparently didn't read those books...Apr 21 20:11
schestowitz> I wanted to go see it last night, but I was unable since I had a class to attend.  However, if you look at the following links:Apr 21 20:12
schestowitz> Apr 21 20:12
schestowitz> http://www.uchicago.edu/gatesvisit/Apr 21 20:12
TechrightsBotTitle: Bill Gates College Tour | The University of Chicago .::. Size~: 10.55 KBApr 21 20:12
schestowitz> http://www.uchicago.edu/gatesvisit/social.shtmlApr 21 20:12
TechrightsBotTitle: Bill Gates College Tour Join the Conversation | The University of Chicago .::. Size~: 7.91 KBApr 21 20:12
schestowitz> Apr 21 20:12
schestowitz> you probably won't have a lot of trouble to convince yourself that I didn't miss much.  Overall, this seems to be a charm propaganda offensive.Apr 21 20:12
schestowitz> Apr 21 20:12
schestowitz> I read that he is at Harvard today giving his spiel.  You can watch it live, if you care to:Apr 21 20:12
schestowitz> Apr 21 20:12
schestowitz> http://www.harvard.edu/gatesvisit/Apr 21 20:13
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schestowitzIt's just a PR tour. Techrights covers the real meaning of it.Apr 21 20:13
schestowitzCharm offensiveApr 21 20:13
MinceRhttp://thereifixedit.com/2010/04/20/epic-kludge-photonot-what-i-meant-by-itouch/Apr 21 20:13
TechrightsBotTitle:   Not What I Meant By iTouch - There, I Fixed It - Epic Kludge Photos .::. Size~: 167.49 KBApr 21 20:13
Omar87schestowitz, I wish someone could pop him a pie in the face just like ten years ago.Apr 21 20:14
schestowitzAnother FUD company: "@schestowitz nice. OpenText (also owns Vignette CMS/ECM) is also in that camp." http://identi.ca/conversation/29355666#notice-29423432Apr 21 20:14
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schestowitzVignette is the Old GuardApr 21 20:14
schestowitzUsed to be something, now going to be nothingApr 21 20:15
schestowitzOmar87: that would be pointlessApr 21 20:15
schestowitzIt's better to expose his real motivesApr 21 20:15
Omar87schestowitz, I know. It would just make me feel better.Apr 21 20:15
schestowitzMinceR: it's all wrongApr 21 20:15
schestowitzThe paper goes in the bowl, the doodoo goes in the mac miniApr 21 20:16
schestowitzFernando Cacia put it nicelyApr 21 20:16
schestowitzIn his blog in Argentina he said that the pie in the face incident was the only time ever that he watched Bill Gates and smiledApr 21 20:17
schestowitzThat sentence made me smile, tooApr 21 20:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA Affects Patents, Philips Upset With the #Patent System, NZOSS Responds... http://techrights.org/2010/04/21/acta-trips-patents/Apr 21 20:35
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schestowitz>> It's just a PR tour. Techrights covers the real meaning of it.Apr 21 20:44
schestowitz> Apr 21 20:44
schestowitz> Absolutely.  I watched the video from his 2008 talk at Chicago and the content of the talk was largely commercial.  He talked directly about some things that Microsoft is promoting, such as cloud computing and Silverlie.  I was also struck by the fact that there seemed to be 0 media coverage of yesterday's Chicago talk -- not even the student newspaper had an article or blog post about it.Apr 21 20:44
schestowitz> Apr 21 20:44
schestowitz> I am now tuned into the Harvard talk.  I'm curious to see what is his spin this time 'round.Apr 21 20:44
schestowitzPreparatory articles told me what he talks about in all these presentations. It's just reputation laundering about "public good". I'd skip it if I were you.Apr 21 20:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Nick Clegg dossier reveals his Martian roots http://newstechnica.com/?p=2019Apr 21 20:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard NewsTechnica: Nick Clegg dossier reveals his Martian roots http://newstechnica.com/?p=2019Apr 21 20:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Hmmmm... this is weird (I don't know the poster) http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8756acfd49e96b7f#Apr 21 20:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Thanks to everyone who came along to my vidcast - and thanks for ignoring the snifles. :-)Apr 21 21:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wikileaks Facebook pulls WikiLeaks fan page for being "inauthentic", but we never complained about it. http://bit.ly/aywGHUApr 21 21:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux and the Bank: Symbiotic Relationship Only With Forging http://ur1.ca/wben only accepting zombies?Apr 21 21:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Get the Facts on London Stock Exchange (Not Microsoft's Version) http://ur1.ca/wbf9 #lde #gnu #linuxApr 21 21:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Discovered that the USB port on my HP Officejet 6310 is powered when printer in standby. Handy for charging phone :)Apr 21 21:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Linux Event (LinuxFest) and 2 New Audiocasts http://ur1.ca/wbfh http://twit.tv/floss117 http://ur1.ca/wbfiApr 21 21:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Existing a New #KDE Applications http://ur1.ca/wbh4 http://ur1.ca/wbh5 http://ur1.ca/wbh6 http://ur1.ca/wbh8Apr 21 21:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Slitaz Declared the Winner of Lightweight #GNU #Linux Distributions http://ur1.ca/wbjtApr 21 21:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2010 Edition in Review: "The top of anybody’s desktop distro list" http://bit.ly/cuVAS8Apr 21 21:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sabayon #Linux x86/x86-64 5.2 CoreCD and Peppermint Linux Are Released http://wgo.wolf911.us/?p=355 http://ur1.ca/wbk0Apr 21 21:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Explains Why #FogComputing Requires Exit Route http://www.federalnewsradio.com/index.php?nid=249&sid=1937445Apr 21 21:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of #Debian #GNU #Linux (Squeeze) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/44625Apr 21 21:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Tor Comes to #Android , More Linux/Android Phones http://ur1.ca/wbll http://ur1.ca/wblm http://ur1.ca/wblnApr 21 22:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Nice New Sub-notebooks With #GNU #Linux Only #System76 http://ur1.ca/wbnjApr 21 22:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Lessons from Socrates About Free(dom) Software http://www.mygnulinux.com/?p=556Apr 21 22:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] DrupalCon Has Live Streams, #Drupal Has Free New Upgrade http://ur1.ca/wbo9 http://ur1.ca/wboaApr 21 22:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Bugzilla 3.6 is Released http://ostatic.com/blog/cant-make-drupalcon-catch-free-live-video-streamsApr 21 22:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @sil: RT @mikeal: My new favorite website! http://IsBarackObamaMuslin.com/ (via @gf3) (via @dandean)Apr 21 22:30
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ThistleWeblol, the interlect of the religious right in full effect, they can;t even spell Muslim on their FUD sitesApr 21 22:33
ThistleWebroflApr 21 22:33
ThistleWeblol, that'll teach me to click the link before throwing  out a smartass replyApr 21 22:36
MinceRlolApr 21 22:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Socrates explains free software to Antiphon http://www.mygnulinux.com/?p=556 (Xenophon, "Memorabilia")Apr 21 22:37
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schestowitzThistleWeb: how do they spell it?Apr 21 22:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @jonobacon: Ubuntu/Launchpad Single Sign On Now Open Source - http://is.gd/bCyya #ubuntu #opensourceApr 21 22:39
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ThistleWebI just thought it was an attack site where the jackass registering the URL was too worked up to check the spellingApr 21 22:40
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MinceRseems to be a pretty funny way to cover a misspellingApr 21 22:41
MinceRalso, it's apparently just an ad for a company that makes websites :)Apr 21 22:41
ThistleWebyeah I spotted thatApr 21 22:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] (1/1) For power users who want to tweak Ubuntu beyond it's default installation setup, we should have an Ubuntu Tweakers community!Apr 21 22:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Fury as Ryanair refuses to pay stranded passengers' costs AKA Ryanair cares about you, NOT http://tinyurl.com/2g9qnyjApr 21 22:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] (2/2) Would anyone be interested in building this kind of community? Happy to help provide support and advise....Apr 21 22:44
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ThistleWeb"tweak Ubuntu beyond it's default setup" could also be read as "put back in all the config options we've taken out"Apr 21 22:49
ZiomatrixI didn't know Ubuntu was that dumbed downApr 21 22:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Ivanka on what makes a good design critic - http://is.gd/bCAu5 - she should know, she is a legend at this. :-)Apr 21 22:52
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ThistleWebnot dumbed down, but decisions taken by canonical where the users are told to just accept itApr 21 22:53
ThistleWeband you have to look for crazy hacks to reverse itApr 21 22:53
schestowitzcommand line...Apr 21 22:55
schestowitzJust use KDEApr 21 22:55
ThistleWeblike a different login picture? how about the ability to hide the user list t login? ya gotta hack itApr 21 22:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Seems like Project Renaissance is rocking the house - http://is.gd/bCAQr - anyone have any screenshots of the Impress changes?Apr 21 22:56
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ThistleWeblike the buttons on the right where they've always been? ya gotta hack itApr 21 22:56
schestowitzhttp://www.goldmansachs666.com/2010/04/goldman-sachs-owns-whitewashington.htmlApr 21 22:57
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Ziomatrixgreat so through ditching Georgia Israel gains better deals: http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100421/158685876.htmlApr 21 22:58
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Ziomatrixthis is exactly like how the US dumped South Vietnam in order to garner closer relations with the PRCApr 21 22:59
ZiomatrixoopsApr 21 22:59
Ziomatrixwrong channelApr 21 22:59
Ziomatrixbtw interesting link schestowitzApr 21 22:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Oh great, crashes due to #evas borking my development of #elmdentica and I'm still not zbr enough to tackle them on efficiently :(Apr 21 22:59
Ziomatrixschestowitz: btw, what do you expect the former and current Secretary of Treasury worked for the SachsApr 21 23:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] At least that's what gdb tells to me :|Apr 21 23:01
schestowitzOmar87: a friend of mine watched the BillG talkApr 21 23:01
schestowitzhe said:Apr 21 23:01
schestowitz> I respectfully disagree because, in order to properly refute someone, you have to listen to what they say.  I listened to the talk, which was about his Gates Foundation, and he took some questions at the end.  The last question from an African was an excellent one; he asked "Do you think Western aid creates a cycle of poverty in Africa?"  Gates got very defensive and naturally didn't agree with that at all.  I think the questioner was Apr 21 23:01
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schestowitzdefinitely on the right track.Apr 21 23:01
schestowitzGates rarely takes question he does not prepare for. Microsoft's Communications manager (used to be some Cohen guy, who quit last year) prepared the executives with talking points.Apr 21 23:01
schestowitzOpen questions are a door to bad PR.Apr 21 23:01
schestowitzHi, ZiomatrixApr 21 23:01
schestowitzZiomatrix: it's the right channelApr 21 23:02
schestowitzWe don't abstain from politicsApr 21 23:02
schestowitzThese are in some sense inseparable from many subjectApr 21 23:02
schestowitzWe also bring up crime and religion sometimesApr 21 23:02
Ziomatrixtrue since politics and commerce go hand in hand these days more then ever beforeApr 21 23:03
schestowitz[23:00] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: btw, what do you expect the former and current Secretary of Treasury worked for the SachsApr 21 23:03
schestowitzPaulson might get suedApr 21 23:03
schestowitzI posted a link in Techrights about it last nightApr 21 23:03
schestowitzThe UK and Germany might sue like the SEC didApr 21 23:03
schestowitzI hope Greece will, tooApr 21 23:03
Ziomatrixschestowitz: good, I hope to see that sleezeball of a company go downhillApr 21 23:03
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schestowitzGS deserves to go bankrupt, but only after its legion of 20k people are looted first for their lootApr 21 23:04
ender2070opensuse 11.3 m5 is FASTApr 21 23:04
schestowitzAnd have their wealth redistributedApr 21 23:04
ender2070i think gcc 4.5 is making a differenceApr 21 23:04
schestowitzmaybe hundreds of billionsApr 21 23:04
Ziomatrixschestowitz: to think that they selectively bailed out companies leaving certian ones that posed as direct competition such as Lehman Bros to collapseApr 21 23:04
Ziomatrixbut thats not the worst of it, I knowApr 21 23:04
schestowitzI want to see Paulson getting the Madoff treatmentApr 21 23:04
schestowitzThe difference bhwteen them is, Madoff was 'small', Paulson was bigApr 21 23:05
schestowitzThey committed similar crimes, my dad arguesApr 21 23:05
schestowitzMadoff doesn't have many govt tiesApr 21 23:05
schestowitzLike GeithnerApr 21 23:05
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Paulson only was in a big position, he actually seem to talk and have the appearance of a small guy which made me think he took orders from other peopleApr 21 23:05
schestowitzAnd he is small, so it's easy to go after him and do the paper trailApr 21 23:05
schestowitzIn GS there's this Fabrice dudeApr 21 23:05
schestowitz[23:04] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: to think that they selectively bailed out companies leaving certian ones that posed as direct competition such as Lehman Bros to collapseApr 21 23:06
schestowitzThat's GeithnerApr 21 23:06
schestowitzAIGApr 21 23:06
schestowitzThey didn't like LehmanApr 21 23:06
schestowitzBearApr 21 23:06
Ziomatrixschestowitz: ahh okApr 21 23:06
schestowitzI was just going through some GS newsApr 21 23:06
schestowitz25 articlesApr 21 23:06
schestowitzTechrights has written about GS for over a yearApr 21 23:07
schestowitzDaily.Apr 21 23:07
schestowitzRight on the money, it turned out they are indeed the fraud and cause of the "collapse"Apr 21 23:07
schestowitzEditors of the British papers allege this, not meApr 21 23:07
Ziomatrixschestowitz: hopefully you don't end up under a government scope like WikileaksApr 21 23:07
schestowitzWho cares..Apr 21 23:07
schestowitzI'd feel privileged :-)Apr 21 23:07
schestowitzWikileaks do the Big WorkApr 21 23:07
schestowitzLeaks from BarclaysApr 21 23:08
schestowitzAlmost got suedApr 21 23:08
schestowitzDisgruntled employees showing fraudApr 21 23:08
Ziomatrixschestowitz: lol, but yea I wonder what made Sachs BoDs so stupid as to think they can start selling morgage backed derivatives againApr 21 23:08
schestowitzBaer Bank (.ch)Apr 21 23:08
schestowitzZiomatrix: well, it's God's work to sell bad mortgagesApr 21 23:08
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Calvanism ftwApr 21 23:08
schestowitzGod is bad at real estateApr 21 23:09
schestowitzThat's why he's letting occupation beApr 21 23:09
schestowitz"It's in the bible!"Apr 21 23:09
schestowitzThe bible is God's will and real estate schematicApr 21 23:09
Ziomatrixschestowitz: It must flaberghast people to find out the root of capitalism is in religion because many worship the dollar so muchApr 21 23:09
Ziomatrixschestowitz: hey, its the British who founded capitalismApr 21 23:10
schestowitzDid they?Apr 21 23:10
Ziomatrixus Americans are just taking to a whole other levelApr 21 23:10
schestowitzWhat is it defined to be precisely?Apr 21 23:10
schestowitzCapitalism = coinage?Apr 21 23:10
schestowitzFeudalism?Apr 21 23:10
schestowitzOr 'free markets'?Apr 21 23:10
schestowitzAll societies mix and matchApr 21 23:11
schestowitzNHS is like socialismApr 21 23:11
schestowitzWe feed the homeless, tooApr 21 23:11
Ziomatrixschestowitz: no Capitalism is the result of Calvanist beliefs that God has a plan when it comes to everyone seeking wealth. God awards good men with money and bad ones to squalorApr 21 23:11
schestowitzBut there is no "God"Apr 21 23:11
schestowitzWhatever that isApr 21 23:11
schestowitzThere's biologyApr 21 23:11
schestowitzWe gather atoms, we have some time here before decay, and "Life" moves onApr 21 23:12
Ziomatrixschestowitz: however, originally once millionares died they were supposed to give all their money away to charity since you can't pass what God granted you to your kids.Apr 21 23:12
schestowitzThe notion of currency is not naturalApr 21 23:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Folks, following up on my idea of an Ubuntu Power Users community - see http://is.gd/bCBFa - let's make this happen! #ubuntuApr 21 23:12
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schestowitzCan you imagine currency for plants?Apr 21 23:12
Ziomatrixschestowitz: but somehow they rationalized the alotment of wealth is devine providenceApr 21 23:12
schestowitz"wealthy plant"Apr 21 23:12
schestowitzThat's LloydApr 21 23:13
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schestowitzProbably a religious nutterApr 21 23:13
Ziomatrixschestowitz: well plants can't become rich because they aren't endowed to be in the image of God. Only man is and man has control over nature and the elementsApr 21 23:13
schestowitzNoApr 21 23:13
schestowitzIt's reversedApr 21 23:13
schestowitzGod is made in our imageApr 21 23:13
schestowitzNot ours in hisApr 21 23:13
Ziomatrixschestowitz: the point of capitalism is the belief that growth benefits humanity and ultimately that pleases GodApr 21 23:14
schestowitzInflationApr 21 23:14
schestowitzLike the universeApr 21 23:14
schestowitzBefore atomsApr 21 23:14
schestowitzWell, it still expandsApr 21 23:14
MinceRi don't think that capitalism has anything to do with any gods :>Apr 21 23:14
Ziomatrixschestowitz: well I'm not arguing with your opinion, I'm just pointing out the roots of the rationale of capitalismApr 21 23:14
schestowitzI'm sure this "God" dude is pleasedApr 21 23:14
schestowitzWe're not so important to himApr 21 23:14
schestowitzNot even the centre or along the axis in the universeApr 21 23:15
schestowitzDepending on where we set the axesApr 21 23:15
Ziomatrixschestowitz: however if one becomes wealthy and uses it to build more production and makes humanity's industrial strength grow, wouldn't that make God notice?Apr 21 23:15
schestowitzLike UK claims to be in the middle of the worldApr 21 23:15
schestowitzGreenwichApr 21 23:15
schestowitzWe are also at the topApr 21 23:15
schestowitzNot the bottom of the mapApr 21 23:15
Ziomatrixschestowitz: certainly, its that self-centered thinking that spawned it among other accomplish we take for granted, praise or hate to be under todayApr 21 23:16
schestowitzayeApr 21 23:16
schestowitzBritain sent its prisoners to 'the bottom'Apr 21 23:16
schestowitzAustraliaApr 21 23:16
ZiomatrixI meant accomplishmentsApr 21 23:16
Ziomatrixschestowitz: lol, interesting rationalization.Apr 21 23:17
schestowitzTo climb 'up' the globeApr 21 23:17
Ziomatrixschestowitz: but I do trust your judgement in British anthropological observations, since you live there afterallApr 21 23:17
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5igE11AqOmkanVv1pT8eSHqmI12agD9F72SC80Apr 21 23:18
TechrightsBotTitle: The Associated Press: Goldman case shows power of SEC's bully pulpit .::. Size~: 11.51 KBApr 21 23:18
schestowitz"Yet as it aims to become a tougher cop, the SEC faces a new obstacle: Banks have grown faster than the penalties the agency typically imposes. The sheer size of Goldman — whose quarterly profits just hit $3.3 billion — means court-approved penalties are likely to be too small to hurt it financially."Apr 21 23:18
schestowitzI can't help thinking of MicrosoftApr 21 23:19
schestowitzIt's pays off to commit crimesApr 21 23:19
schestowitzThe fines are too smallApr 21 23:19
Diablo-D3lolApr 21 23:19
schestowitzhttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-20/goldman-sachs-cdo-lawsuit-split-sec-commissioners-in-3-2-vote.htmlApr 21 23:19
TechrightsBotTitle: Goldman Sachs CDO Lawsuit Split SEC Commissioners in 3-2 Vote - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 48.97 KBApr 21 23:19
schestowitzhttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-20/aig-said-to-insure-goldman-sachs-s-board-against-investor-suits.htmlApr 21 23:20
TechrightsBotTitle: AIG Said to Insure Goldman Sachs’s Board Against Investor Suits - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 46.45 KBApr 21 23:20
schestowitzhttp://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/04/scrutiny-of-goldman-sachs-increases.htmlApr 21 23:20
TechrightsBotTitle: OpenSecrets |     Scrutiny of Goldman Sachs Increases After Fraud Charges - Capital Eye     .::. Size~: 41.07 KBApr 21 23:20
schestowitzUK probe too: http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/20/u-k-launches-formal-probe-into-goldman-sachs/Apr 21 23:22
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Ziomatrixthis is just getting so halariously obsurd that AIG is coming to the aid of its accomplice in crime so openly, or it would be if it wasn't for the fact they wreaked havoc on the global economyApr 21 23:23
schestowitzhttp://www.csmonitor.com/Money/The-Reformed-Broker/2010/0420/Goldman-Sachs-legal-problems-may-slam-oil-pricesApr 21 23:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Goldman Sachs' legal problems may slam oil prices  / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com .::. Size~: 58.65 KBApr 21 23:24
schestowitz"Goldman's (GS) fraud charges are sure to affect oil prices too -- and I think crude will be a terrific short for the medium term. Of all the things surely affecting oil prices, it has been my theory that the financial player's perceptions of the market are the most important and telling."Apr 21 23:24
schestowitzZiomatrix: there's moreApr 21 23:24
schestowitzhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704671904575195010771947900.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStoriesApr 21 23:25
TechrightsBotTitle: AIG Considering Potential Claims Against Goldman Sachs - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 90.45 KBApr 21 23:25
Ziomatrixschestowitz: so in the same way they are aiding them they also hope to plunder, how quaintApr 21 23:25
schestowitzIt gets curious.Apr 21 23:26
schestowitzhttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-19/goldman-sachs-said-it-had-duty-to-keep-paulson-s-bets-secret.htmlApr 21 23:26
schestowitzRather strikingApr 21 23:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Goldman Sachs ‘Had Duty’ to Keep Paulson Bets Secret (Update1) - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 48.55 KBApr 21 23:26
schestowitzAt least regulators across the world start probing, not just newspapersApr 21 23:27
Diablo-D3does paulson even have a first name?Apr 21 23:27
schestowitzYeahApr 21 23:27
Diablo-D3everyones likeApr 21 23:27
schestowitzHank?Apr 21 23:27
Diablo-D3paulson thisApr 21 23:27
schestowitzIIRCApr 21 23:27
Diablo-D3paulson thatApr 21 23:27
satiperaRoy interesting point about currency, what would you say it is? Apr 21 23:27
Diablo-D3he has a first name you know!Apr 21 23:27
MinceRno, i don't know! ;)Apr 21 23:28
schestowitzYeah... Hank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_paulsonApr 21 23:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Henry Paulson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 145.96 KBApr 21 23:28
Diablo-D3and for the lovely wtfery for the day... schestowitz, tell us what wikipedia says his current job isApr 21 23:28
schestowitzsatipera: system for keeping track of stuffApr 21 23:28
schestowitzBut it's controlled by peopleApr 21 23:28
schestowitzIt's not a natural thing, and currencies swingApr 21 23:28
schestowitzDiablo-D3: Obama's TomApr 21 23:29
satiperaThere has to be a difference between paper money and money based on rare resourcesApr 21 23:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Don't you just love it when you don't agree with someone and they can't argue....thats when the "Your a XXXX hater" comes out.Apr 21 23:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Oh no! Shock, horror...There are some people who don't like/want Mono....they must be haters! - Get a grip Mono advocates and grow up.Apr 21 23:29
schestowitz /sarcasmApr 21 23:29
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_GeithnerApr 21 23:30
TechrightsBotTitle: Timothy Geithner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 167.37 KBApr 21 23:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin I thought you liked XXX?Apr 21 23:30
schestowitz"In March 2008, he arranged the rescue and sale of Bear Stearns.;[11][20] In the same year, he played a supporting role to Henry Paulson, former CEO of Goldman Sachs, in the decision to bail out AIG just two days after deciding not to rescue Lehman Brothers from bankruptcy. "Apr 21 23:30
MinceRgnApr 21 23:30
satiperaPaper money seems to be a promise that is sometimes never or half delivered by the time it has been worked on by the alchemist bankers and politiciansApr 21 23:31
schestowitzyoutube shows how paulson stuttersApr 21 23:31
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUZyxbO4kAIApr 21 23:32
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Henry  Paulson Stutters when asked ecomomy question .::. Size~: 75.65 KBApr 21 23:32
satiperaPaper money is too easy to manipulate which is why we are no longer on the gold standardApr 21 23:33
satiperaThe discipline of the gold standard was too much for the capitalist systemApr 21 23:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter nah....Ive got a wife who censors that type of thing....Apr 21 23:34
Ziomatrixafter speaking he meets up with Sith Lorder Dick Cheney: http://tinyurl.com/5ynfwdApr 21 23:34
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schestowitzhttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/City-Watchdog-FSA-Launches-Formal-Investigation-Into-Goldman-Sachs-Fraud-Allegations-By-SEC/Article/201004315609749?lpos=Business_Top_Stories_Header_4&lid=ARTICLE_15609749_City_Watchdog_FSA_Launches_Formal_Investigation_Into_Goldman_Sachs_Fraud_Allegations_By_SECApr 21 23:34
schestowitz"Goldman Sachs has set aside a quarterly pay-and-bonus pot of £3.6bn - just hours after learning it faces a formal fraud investigation by the City watchdog."Apr 21 23:34
TechrightsBotTitle: Goldman Sachs Unveils Huge Profit And Bonuses Hours After Leaning It Faces FSA Fraud Probe | Business | Sky News .::. Size~: 88.76 KBApr 21 23:34
schestowitz[Murdoch warning]Apr 21 23:34
satiperaEven USA 25 years after being the last economy standing in 1945 could not stick to itApr 21 23:35
satiperabankers and politicians two wings of the same conApr 21 23:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] For #GNU #Linux as well... ♺ @glynmoody: 'Gossips' say #Apple will acquire #ARM - http://bit.ly/aErlc0 would be v. tricky for #AndroidApr 21 23:36
TechrightsBotTitle: 'Gossips' say Apple will acquire ARM • The Register .::. Size~: 39.98 KBApr 21 23:36
MinceRwould be a disaster for most embedded systemsApr 21 23:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @johnleach: McAfee anti-virus detects Windows as a virus and b0rks hundreds of thousands of installations: http://is.gd/bCCU1 Superb!Apr 21 23:38
TechrightsBotTitle: _meta - Info roundup: McAfee kills computers worldwide .::. Size~: 8.38 KBApr 21 23:38
ZiomatrixMinceR: I thought ARM was an foundation, not a businessApr 21 23:39
MinceRthe distinction between the two is seriously blurred in jesuslandApr 21 23:40
schestowitzhttp://www.eetimes.com/224400808Apr 21 23:40
ZiomatrixMinceR: so Apple can purchase ARM's finances and IP thus rendering the foundation null in void?Apr 21 23:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ruiseabra @glynmoody does not compute http://www.eetimes.com/224400808Apr 21 23:42
schestowitzFox's anti-Muslin Jihad. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/20/website-warns-south-park-creators-face-retribution-depicting-muhammad/Apr 21 23:44
TechrightsBotTitle:  FOXNews.com - 'South Park' Creators Could Face Retribution for Depicting Muhammad, Website Warns .::. Size~: 103.81 KBApr 21 23:44
schestowitzAs long as Fox doesn't curse other religius nuts from other religiousApr 21 23:45
schestowitzLike McVeighApr 21 23:45
schestowitz"Good religious value for the family..."Apr 21 23:45
schestowitzHypocritesApr 21 23:45
ender2070religions are for crazy peopleApr 21 23:45
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I still haven't seen that clip and want toApr 21 23:45
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/steve-jobs-pornApr 21 23:45
TechrightsBotTitle: Want Porn? Buy an Android Phone, Steve Jobs Says | Gadget Lab | Wired.com .::. Size~: 106.95 KBApr 21 23:45
Ziomatrixschestowitz: it seems to be missing from Comedy CentralApr 21 23:46
schestowitzJobs doesn't like pornApr 21 23:46
schestowitzMrs. Jobs does his jobsApr 21 23:46
schestowitz:-pApr 21 23:46
MinceRZiomatrix: i don't knowApr 21 23:46
schestowitzhttp://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/04/19/delusions-the-legislature-and-an-implanted-microchip/Apr 21 23:48
TechrightsBotTitle: Delusions, the Legislature and an implanted microchip | Political Insider .::. Size~: 128.01 KBApr 21 23:48
schestowitzMagic pillApr 21 23:48
schestowitzhttp://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002877Apr 21 23:50
TechrightsBotTitle: Against Monopoly  .::. Size~: 21.41 KBApr 21 23:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] About to watch my first Argentinian film, sci fi too (La Antena).Apr 21 23:51
schestowitzhttp://jan.wildeboer.net/2010/04/ashmob-bbq-ash-back-to-iceland-just-for-fun/Apr 21 23:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Jan Wildeboer · #ashmob  BBQ ash back to iceland! (Just for fun) .::. Size~: 25.76 KBApr 21 23:51
schestowitzIt would be nice to have no outgoing flights for a year or soApr 21 23:51
schestowitzLet the airlines rethinkApr 21 23:51
*Animeking (~Animeking@adsl-64-175-13.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #boycottnovellApr 21 23:52
*WireWulf (~depressed@unaffiliated/wirewulf) has joined #boycottnovellApr 21 23:52
schestowitzhttp://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/4037888Apr 21 23:53
TechrightsBotTitle: Jobless rate ticks down .::. Size~: 71.94 KBApr 21 23:53
schestowitzRed HatApr 21 23:53
schestowitz"Mark Schurtman of Raleigh finished a contract job at software maker Red Hat about three months ago. Since then, he has been networking, taking classes on improving his job search and doing numerous interviews."Apr 21 23:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] All is tickety boo thanks. Just madly busy.Apr 21 23:56
ZiomatrixI wuv Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lnETHlzu48Apr 21 23:57
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Obama vs. Obama .::. Size~: 91.54 KBApr 21 23:57
Ziomatrixshould I try to find a non-Youtube link?Apr 21 23:59
Diablo-D3schestowitz: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/tDSQlCjT1Is/Photos-of-Chinese-Sweatshop-Used-By-MicrosoftApr 21 23:59
TechrightsBotTitle: Google FeedBurner .::. Size~: 11.58 KBApr 21 23:59
schestowitzPoson is being AstroTurfed by amicus_curious http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/04/18/inertia-in-it/Apr 21 23:59
TechrightsBotTitle:   Inertia in IT at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 33.38 KBApr 21 23:59
schestowitzThe shills smash Linux blogs now, tooApr 21 23:59

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