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| Chips_B_Malroy | and if the wrong folks aquire Novell, where does the ATI radion driver come from? maybe it doesn't? | Apr 23 00:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Whoever came up with folderview for #kde made a smart move. It's extremely valuable to have it. | Apr 23 00:00 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, I am not against KDE4.0 at all | Apr 23 00:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cioupdate.com/features/article.php/3877516/Top-10-Outsourced-IT-Destinations-You-Havent-Thought-Of.htm | Apr 23 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: I know about IBM | Apr 23 00:02 |
| schestowitz | I don't love them, either | Apr 23 00:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | just the ATI driver situation is going hold adoption back for some of us for awhile | Apr 23 00:02 |
| schestowitz | I pretty much eliminated employability with them by slamming them in many posts, as they deserve it | Apr 23 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: 4.0 was bad | Apr 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | I tried 4.1 | Apr 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Linus tried 4.0 | Apr 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Fled KDE | Apr 23 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I had inlaws that used to work for IBM | Apr 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | IBM is close to the govt. | Apr 23 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sorry I meant 4.x kde | Apr 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | It could be called Federal Computing | Apr 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Or General Computing | Apr 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Standard computing (like Standard Oil) | Apr 23 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | IBM made many mistakes | Apr 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | More of a franchise than a company | Apr 23 00:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GMWatch RT @OrganicConsumer: US Senate, Bill Gates going wrong way on #food 'security' http://bit.ly/bGHQui #Monsanto #gmo #greed | Apr 23 00:04 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: US Senate, Bill Gates Give the Planet a Middle Finger for Earth Day .::. Size~: 33.93 KB | Apr 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | It's still 3.5 times bigger than MSFT's core | Apr 23 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its the thinking at IBM that is basically different | Apr 23 00:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | IBM has never seen itself as a company that wants to sell to the public, its a "business" company | Apr 23 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even with OS/2, IBM wanted only the business custermers | Apr 23 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which was a small part of the reason that failed | Apr 23 00:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | looking at Linux and IBM, you see the same mindset | Apr 23 00:08 |
| _goblin | Right, me done for the night..... | Apr 23 00:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | IBM installs maintains Red Hat systems for Fortune 500 companies | Apr 23 00:08 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 @GMWatch it's worse than that. Clinton and Gates are lobbying for patents of big pharma which Gates invests billion of dollars in | Apr 23 00:09 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they will get them too | Apr 23 00:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you are witness to the country being sold off to the rich | Apr 23 00:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 @GMWatch info and many links inhttp://techrights.org/2010/03/17/rich-uncle-bill-explored/ | Apr 23 00:11 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Gates Roundup: Monsanto, Colonisation, Clinton Ties, and Control of Education | Techrights .::. Size~: 138.74 KB | Apr 23 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: and SLES | Apr 23 00:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The rich sometimes hide behind corporations as stockholders, or "Private hedge funds" where nobody knows who is behind the money, when they do things. | Apr 23 00:12 |
| schestowitz | it's all for fun and business | Apr 23 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Philanthrocapitalism | Apr 23 00:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | no, its for greed as you already know | Apr 23 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Or similar made-up terms I learned about recently | Apr 23 00:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | greed, power, control | Apr 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | I made 6 about the Gates Foundation on Monday | Apr 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | I made 28 posts that day | Apr 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Broke my record :-) | Apr 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | I could do 30 if only I had good ideas to carry on with | Apr 23 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Philanthrocapitalism, just another Robber Baron term | Apr 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | The other term is "pet charity" | Apr 23 00:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | how about those links on those cheap ebay ARM laptops? | Apr 23 00:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sub $100 | Apr 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | netwalker uses arm iirc | Apr 23 00:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | what is that going do to MS bottom line? | Apr 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | it's a tablet form factor now | Apr 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: going to? | Apr 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | It already does | Apr 23 00:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they have tablets coming | Apr 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Ouch. Zonker: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/2010/04/19/two-weeks-with-ipad/ | Apr 23 00:15 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | the big fact is it here now on ebay, where it wasn't before | Apr 23 00:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] This is lovely http://is.gd/bE7pK (via @pidg) I could go to bed listening to that. | Apr 23 00:15 | |
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| schestowitz | kaHELL: http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/reviews/kahelos-review | Apr 23 00:16 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, the ARM problem for MS, is just beginning | Apr 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | http://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/2010/04/wil-wheaton-prime-uses-linux-to-bring-you-evil-wil-wheaton-sitting-in-sheldons-spot.html | Apr 23 00:16 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Wil Wheaton Prime uses Linux to bring you Evil Wil Wheaton sitting in Sheldon's spot. - WWdN: In Exile .::. Size~: 36.4 KB | Apr 23 00:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | up to now, it really has not been available to US custermers | Apr 23 00:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/spice-up-your-unix-linux-shell-scripts.html | Apr 23 00:18 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: 10 Tools To Add Some Spice To Your UNIX Shell Scripts .::. Size~: 101.02 KB | Apr 23 00:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right Im done. Managed to get a bit done on Openbytes. Thanks to everyone for emails RE: the new links list, should be done by the weekend | Apr 23 00:18 | |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: read the SEC thing yet? | Apr 23 00:18 |
| schestowitz | vs Microsoft | Apr 23 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you missed it cause I posted too much that day | Apr 23 00:19 |
| schestowitz | SEC vs Ballmer | Apr 23 00:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | SEC and Goldman? | Apr 23 00:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think i did | Apr 23 00:19 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials | Apr 23 00:19 |
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| schestowitz | No | Apr 23 00:19 |
| schestowitz | SEC versus SteveB | Apr 23 00:20 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/04/19/the-sec-vs-steve-ballmer/ | Apr 23 00:20 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The SEC is Going After Microsoft (Again), Not Just Goldman Sachs | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.11 KB | Apr 23 00:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hey Goblin, sorry if I ran off Andre, just couldn't help it | Apr 23 00:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=201004182125462 | Apr 23 00:20 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Groklaw - What the Judge Still Has to Decide in SCO v. Novell - Updated .::. Size~: 157.43 KB | Apr 23 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Goblin went to bed | Apr 23 00:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_Goblin Chips_B_Malroy says "Hey Goblin, sorry if I ran off Andre, just couldn't help it" | Apr 23 00:21 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Adobe-blog-postings-hail-open-operating-systems/ | Apr 23 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Apple driving Adobe into Android's arms? - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 63.89 KB | Apr 23 00:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | wish I had the link, its old now, but I believe that MS is actually giving away or paying for Windows CE to be preinstalled on ARM laptops | Apr 23 00:22 |
| schestowitz | I also asked Matt if Mark Shuttleworth was "gunning" for Microsoft to compete with them directly on the desktop. To get the answer for that one, go to the Frugal Tech Show website and listen for yourself. Note: If the entry isn't up when you visit, please return later to listen.|http://www.daniweb.com/news/story277583.html " | Apr 23 00:23 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: likely | Apr 23 00:23 |
| schestowitz | wince is a dud | Apr 23 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I saw how some arm netbooks we have here in maplins changed from linux to wince | Apr 23 00:24 |
| schestowitz | For no apparent reason | Apr 23 00:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well its a dud on a phone, which means its probably even worse on a netbook | Apr 23 00:24 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfoundation.org/programs/linux-credit-card lame | Apr 23 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: no | Apr 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz | it's DEAD on the phone | Apr 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz | They use "ZUNOS" | Apr 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz | ^not real name | Apr 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz | All the success of the Zune.... now on your PHONE !! | Apr 23 00:27 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Dell is coming out with phones now with windows7phone, or whatever they call CE now | Apr 23 00:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they must have bribed Dell to do it | Apr 23 00:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | HP is seemingly moving closer to MS these days | Apr 23 00:29 |
| schestowitz | http://thelinuxexperiment.com/guinea-pigs/tyler-b/vorbis-is-not-theora/ | Apr 23 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Vorbis is not Theora | The Linux Experiment .::. Size~: 52.76 KB | Apr 23 00:31 |
| schestowitz | scientes: how's lyx coming along? | Apr 23 00:32 |
| schestowitz | I saw your questions later, simple answers I could give there | Apr 23 00:32 |
| schestowitz | You need references/bib section before you can cite by double-clicking | Apr 23 00:32 |
| schestowitz | And you can edit tex by making /tex sections or import/export | Apr 23 00:32 |
| schestowitz | You can edit preamble in the document settings | Apr 23 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: "WIndows 7" something | Apr 23 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Branding move | Apr 23 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Bing was almost Bang they say... | Apr 23 00:33 |
| schestowitz | But not Bong | Apr 23 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Bing means pile as goblin says | Apr 23 00:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itworld.com/hardware/105063/multitouch-trackpad-gestures-coming-linux | Apr 23 00:35 |
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| schestowitz | Did you guys hear about valve/steam? | Apr 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz | It's coming to gnu | Apr 23 00:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS should rename MSN>Windows Live>Kumo>Bing one more time, to what it really is. Since Ballmer is so much in love and compliance with the Communists Red Chinese government, and so helpful in it efforts to censor the truth. Just rename Bing to "BIGBROTHERSEARCH." | Apr 23 00:36 |
| schestowitz | Oh cool. | Apr 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Just realise we made the front page of Linux Today | Apr 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | *realised | Apr 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: yes, I have a post about the naming thing | Apr 23 00:38 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.worldlabel.com/2010/your-mail-merging-options-with-thunderbird.html | Apr 23 00:38 |
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| schestowitz | Chronological | Apr 23 00:38 |
| schestowitz | oops | Apr 23 00:38 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bing_Reality_Log | Apr 23 00:38 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@scottEweinberg RT @SmartBitches: How can a flight be "very full?" isn't full absolute? // politeness & precision aren't always compatible | Apr 23 00:39 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | only failed ms products get renamed. windows is always windows, as office is always office, they make money | Apr 23 00:39 |
| schestowitz | See the first post in this index | Apr 23 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: no | Apr 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | WIndows became WIndows Vista | Apr 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | They tried to make it look like new | Apr 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | As in, "I paid $400 to move from Windows XP to 'the' Vista'" | Apr 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Needless to say, that backfired | Apr 23 00:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | still the first word was "windows" | Apr 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | They ran back to Windows | Apr 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Just WIndows with a digit | Apr 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: it wasn't emphasised | Apr 23 00:41 |
| schestowitz | They stressed the "Vista" part | Apr 23 00:41 |
| schestowitz | See articles | Apr 23 00:41 |
| schestowitz | It's a good thing for them in retrospect | Apr 23 00:41 |
| schestowitz | They compartmentalised the damage | Apr 23 00:41 |
| schestowitz | Contained within the word they associated with "train wreck" | Apr 23 00:41 |
| scientes_ | vista 7 | Apr 23 00:42 |
| schestowitz | "Vista user" became associated/synonimised with "conned person" | Apr 23 00:42 |
| schestowitz | scientes_: yes, the "7" is the desktop | Apr 23 00:42 |
| schestowitz | deskbar even | Apr 23 00:43 |
| scientes_ | vista "7" | Apr 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Cumulative update | Apr 23 00:43 |
| scientes_ | its such a lie | Apr 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | That's what it is | Apr 23 00:43 |
| scientes_ | as it calls itsself 6.1 | Apr 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | For compatibility | Apr 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | That's what someone told me | Apr 23 00:43 |
| scientes_ | bullllll | Apr 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Apps check these numbers (first digit | Apr 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Vista is 6 | Apr 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 is 6.1 | Apr 23 00:43 |
| scientes_ | BULLSHIT | Apr 23 00:43 |
| scientes_ | xp=5.1 | Apr 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | I.e. same underlying system | Apr 23 00:43 |
| scientes_ | exactly | Apr 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | "If it works with 6, it'll work with 6.1" | Apr 23 00:44 |
| scientes_ | but they dont say it that way | Apr 23 00:44 |
| scientes_ | as that sounds bad | Apr 23 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu 8.04.1 | Apr 23 00:44 |
| scientes_ | if you say its just vista 7 | Apr 23 00:44 |
| scientes_ | its all in the newspeak | Apr 23 00:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | SEVEN maybe less secure than Vista, I am hearing from those who still repair malware infested machines that | Apr 23 00:44 |
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| schestowitz | It is | Apr 23 00:44 |
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| scientes_ | Chips_B_Malroy, http://www.pretentiousname.com/misc/win7_uac_whitelist2.html | Apr 23 00:44 |
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| schestowitz | Two security firms said so | Apr 23 00:44 |
| scientes_ | schestowitz, and that page | Apr 23 00:44 |
| scientes_ | makes it abundantly clear, with source code | Apr 23 00:45 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: http://www.daniweb.com/news/story277583.html | Apr 23 00:45 |
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| schestowitz | We mentioned this earlier | Apr 23 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Alas, Microsoft NEVER marketed Vista 7 as "more secure" | Apr 23 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes that seems to be what I was on about (without going on the link) | Apr 23 00:45 |
| schestowitz | It only marketed Vista that way | Apr 23 00:45 |
| schestowitz | XP too, back in the days | Apr 23 00:45 |
| schestowitz | 4000 updates later, XP is still Swiss Cheese | Apr 23 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I notice goblin has left ah well | Apr 23 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | still got problems with old monitor, so swapped over to the new, but it's not connected properly | Apr 23 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | to the computer | Apr 23 00:47 |
| scientes_ | calc.exe is blessed with the ability to silently be administrator | Apr 23 00:47 |
| scientes_ | CALC.EXE! | Apr 23 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | at the moment | Apr 23 00:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ususally when you install during and windows installation, it says "most secure OS ever." | Apr 23 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | so woudn't take that much and I lose the picture | Apr 23 00:47 |
| scientes_ | "most baseless statement ever" | Apr 23 00:47 |
| schestowitz | http://humphreybc.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/announcing-getting-started-with-ubuntu-10-10-quickshot-v1-0-and-the-ubuntu-quickstart-booklet/ | Apr 23 00:49 |
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| scientes_ | sqeeze needs to freeze | Apr 23 00:50 |
| scientes_ | anyone using it? | Apr 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | scientes_: maybe it needs to install modules for quotients | Apr 23 00:50 |
| scientes_ | schestowitz, lol | Apr 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | I read a review of Squeeze today | Apr 23 00:51 |
| schestowitz | It's still in the latest Links post | Apr 23 00:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS doesn't seem to understand that XP is going to be around a lot longer than they think it will be. If 22% of windows users in the USA are using bogus XP, those people are not going switch to newer versions unless they buy a new computer. Strangely enough, old Pentiums 3's do enough for most users, who are not gamers, do not rip disks, or need that horsepower to run Vista/7 | Apr 23 00:51 |
| scientes_ | <Chips_B_Malroy> MS doesn't seem to understand that XP is going to be around a lot longer than they think it will be. | Apr 23 00:51 |
| scientes_ | Chips_B_Malroy, false, thats the image they present | Apr 23 00:52 |
| scientes_ | they know full well, that it will be around for along time | Apr 23 00:52 |
| scientes_ | they just want to pretend otherwise | Apr 23 00:52 |
| scientes_ | because that is a way of changing people | Apr 23 00:52 |
| scientes_ | sheep mentality | Apr 23 00:52 |
| scientes_ | alot of people still use 2000 | Apr 23 00:52 |
| scientes_ | MS just pretends they dont exist | Apr 23 00:52 |
| scientes_ | also IE 6 | Apr 23 00:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, you most likely correct, but MS does not think like poor people do | Apr 23 00:53 |
| scientes_ | If I used windows, i would use XP | Apr 23 00:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | a lot of these people use bogus installations because that is what they can afford. And if you get outside of the US the bogus rate goes way up | Apr 23 00:53 |
| scientes_ | cause I can actually trust it to some degree | Apr 23 00:54 |
| scientes_ | with auto-updates off, and no WGA | Apr 23 00:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | IE6 will last forever as well. simply because so many XP disks will have to be reinstalled when malware or bugs crash them. And most of these older xp disks have IE6 on them | Apr 23 00:55 |
| scientes_ | I wont run any OS that has a built-in trogan horse | Apr 23 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: April 2014 | Apr 23 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | and Windows XP is no longer supported | Apr 23 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | that's the end then | Apr 23 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | unless Microsoft extend again | Apr 23 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | it was going to be April this year | Apr 23 00:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Right now Windows Seven gains market share faster against Vista than XP. Why, because the ones that own Vista are more affluient, and because XP users think (rightly so) that XP is better than Seven. | Apr 23 00:57 |
| scientes_ | Chips_B_Malroy, vista 7 | Apr 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Mackenzie on TV: http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/layout/set/print/content/view/full/42668 | Apr 23 00:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Motivation and Open Source - Linux Magazine Online .::. Size~: 13 KB | Apr 23 00:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.danpink.com/archives/2010/04/pbs-looks-at-motivation-and-candles | Apr 23 00:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: PBS looks at motivation (and candles) | Daniel Pink .::. Size~: 31.55 KB | Apr 23 00:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "sebsebseb> Chips_B_Malroy: April 2014" The end of support hardly matters to anyone except for maybe businesses. Most of these folks with bogus XP have autoupdates turned off, the smarters ones of those have free antivirus and free antimalware installed | Apr 23 00:59 |
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| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: They want business to leave it in 2012 by the latest | Apr 23 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | and yes | Apr 23 01:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | What has it been like 5 years now since Vista and Vista2 (seven) started selling? In that time XP still has 65% of the market. | Apr 23 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | even when XP goes end of life | Apr 23 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | quite a lot of computers will still be using it for quite a while after woulds I guess | Apr 23 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | with no security updates | Apr 23 01:01 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | there will be 3rd party updates beyond the cut off date | Apr 23 01:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which is why MS will extend it once more | Apr 23 01:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | for control | Apr 23 01:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | this has happened before when MS was slow to issue a patch, so other company did issue one | Apr 23 01:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *some | Apr 23 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | Chips_B_Malroy: if they extended it again | Apr 23 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | it's been supported longer than DOS | Apr 23 01:04 |
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| scientes_ | linux is awesome | Apr 23 01:06 |
| *scientes_ ♥ Linux | Apr 23 01:06 | |
| scientes_ | and its always getting better | Apr 23 01:07 |
| scientes_ | and still supports all the old hardware | Apr 23 01:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Everything thats M$ says should be questioned. M$ is all about money=greed. When they say you should not run XP past the end of support, its not because it going be a worse malware target than it already is, its because M$ wants you to spend money and buy a new windows. | Apr 23 01:07 |
| scientes_ | <Chips_B_Malroy> Everything thats M$ says should be questioned. | Apr 23 01:08 |
| scientes_ | you don't have to provide a motive, you can just look at history | Apr 23 01:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey @jonobacon your faces are in PBS: http://www.danpink.com/archives/2010/04/pbs-looks-at-motivation-and-candles check it out! | Apr 23 01:08 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: PBS looks at motivation (and candles) | Daniel Pink .::. Size~: 31.55 KB | Apr 23 01:08 |
| scientes_ | http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf | Apr 23 01:08 |
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| schestowitz | good paper | Apr 23 01:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Most likely some will change before the end of 2014, so the focus of malware writters will change some as well | Apr 23 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Based a great deal on Comes petition | Apr 23 01:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Dear $MAJORBANK, I am sure there are phishers with fewer typos than your online banking portal. | Apr 23 01:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Dear $MAJORBANK, I *know* there are phishers with better *UPTIME* than your online banking portal. | Apr 23 01:09 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, its seems quiet on the Novell/Elliot deal these days? | Apr 23 01:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] If you find yourself reinventing a scroll bar or text entry in #JavaScript or #Flash... STOP now. | Apr 23 01:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @avivao For $10 billion in promises, #Haiti surrenders its sovereignty: #p2 http://3.ly/Zzhf // neocolonial checkmate. #shockdoctrine | Apr 23 01:16 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/29587228 "@schestowitz Folderview pwns. I wonder when Microsoft is going to steal that idea - it would work great in their crappy Desktop Environment." | Apr 23 01:22 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'amazing how much 1 can get done in this field w/o having thorough grasp of core concepts' #oo #clojure http://bit.ly/bYZiRi via @debasishg | Apr 23 01:29 | |
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| schestowitz | Watch how SUperman used to he US propaganda. http://www.archive.org/details/StampDayForSUPERMAN | Apr 23 01:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @daemonfc check out http://www.archive.org/download/StampDayForSUPERMAN/StampDayForSUPERMAN.ogv | Apr 23 01:38 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy here is the best article on the MS quarter, its by AP but it basically says that businesses are buying computers to replace the old ones, and this is the biggest increase for MS http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gCpOwA74hreMqCmqCK-4SWbeJPtAD9F8DFLG0 | Apr 23 01:39 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "An improvement in corporate spending on computers helped Microsoft increase its net income 35 percent in the most recent quarter, but investors wanted even stronger signals of a recovery and sent Microsoft shares down sharply in after-hours trading Thursday." | Apr 23 01:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Revenue in the business software group, which makes Office and other programs, fell 6 percent to $4.2 billion. Microsoft is waiting to report $305 million in Office revenue until after the upcoming Office 2010 launches in the current quarter." | Apr 23 01:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | read: fudging the books again | Apr 23 01:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Standard and Poor's said Apple Inc. surpassed Microsoft in market value Thursday to become the second-largest company listed on the S&P 500 index, after Exxon Mobil Corp." | Apr 23 01:43 |
| cubezzz | wow | Apr 23 01:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Apr 23 01:43 |
| cubezzz | guess those expensive ipads really make them money | Apr 23 01:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Macbooks | Apr 23 01:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | cubezzz>you know you need boot floppies for OS to make that CDROM drive work on that old 486? | Apr 23 01:47 |
| cubezzz | well the cdrom is dead :) | Apr 23 01:48 |
| cubezzz | so I can't use it anyway | Apr 23 01:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | dead how? | Apr 23 01:48 |
| cubezzz | I need an old style mitsumi or panasonic or sony cdrom | Apr 23 01:48 |
| cubezzz | it can't read any discs | Apr 23 01:48 |
| cubezzz | or if I had a scsi controller... | Apr 23 01:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it can't read the disks until the drivers are installed | Apr 23 01:49 |
| cubezzz | dude, it's got win95 on there now | Apr 23 01:49 |
| cubezzz | so it has the driver | Apr 23 01:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | by old style you mean the ones that ran off the soundcards? | Apr 23 01:49 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 23 01:49 |
| cubezzz | I actually have a bunch of 50-pin cdroms | Apr 23 01:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | windows including 95 can be hosed | Apr 23 01:50 |
| cubezzz | I also tried a boot disk though | Apr 23 01:50 |
| cubezzz | pretty sure the drive is toast | Apr 23 01:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | there was a program called the 'cdrom god' do a search for that, it installs to a floppy, and will install the dos cdrom drives | Apr 23 01:51 |
| cubezzz | I wanted to put DSL on there | Apr 23 01:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it will even make 95 use the 8 bit driver for cdroms | Apr 23 01:51 |
| cubezzz | oh I'll get it working :) | Apr 23 01:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not the right way, but at least you can tell if it works or not | Apr 23 01:52 |
| cubezzz | well the cdrom has got to be about 16 years old | Apr 23 01:52 |
| cubezzz | they usually don't last that long | Apr 23 01:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that is true | Apr 23 01:53 |
| cubezzz | I wonder how well X will run on the 486 :) | Apr 23 01:53 |
| cubezzz | I assume DSL uses X | Apr 23 01:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if the plastic is all yellowed usually from cigarette smoke, that usually kills them | Apr 23 01:54 |
| cubezzz | I think I have an adaptec controller somewhere, then I'll put the 50-pin cdrom in it | Apr 23 01:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bruce Lee: The Lost Interview (filmed in 1971 --> first aired 1994) http://ur1.ca/wjxg he seems like a really nice guy | Apr 23 01:54 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you going have to use an old linux most likely on that. Red Hat 5.2? | Apr 23 01:55 |
| cubezzz | no, DSL I said :) | Apr 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: thanks | Apr 23 01:55 |
| cubezzz | Damn Small Linux | Apr 23 01:55 |
| cubezzz | got quite a collection of Linux iso's now | Apr 23 01:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Yes, I like DSL too, too bad the guys behind it split | Apr 23 01:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, my pleasure | Apr 23 01:56 |
| cubezzz | yeah I don't think it's been updated in a while | Apr 23 01:56 |
| *schestowitz will post in the morn' | Apr 23 01:57 | |
| cubezzz | I need an ISA ethernet card too | Apr 23 01:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I preferred it over Puppy, as I think Puppy runs as root | Apr 23 01:57 |
| cubezzz | I know I must have one somewhere | Apr 23 01:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | antiX is a lightweight Mepis one you might want to check out as well. | Apr 23 01:58 |
| cubezzz | are there ISA USB cards? | Apr 23 01:58 |
| cubezzz | that would be nice to have | Apr 23 01:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its not really Warrens, it made by anticapitalista | Apr 23 01:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but he releases thru Warrens Mepis site, with some help from Warren, and the Mepis assistants in it | Apr 23 01:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ISA USB, never seen any, could be, but 95 did not have any usb support until the C (last) version. | Apr 23 02:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | mostly usb was part of the motherboard | Apr 23 02:01 |
| cubezzz | I know there are PCI USB cards | Apr 23 02:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | antiX is close to DSL | Apr 23 02:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but Debian based | Apr 23 02:01 |
| cubezzz | someone must have made one :) | Apr 23 02:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *both | Apr 23 02:02 |
| cubezzz | I can get USB for Amiga, I should be able to get USB on 486 | Apr 23 02:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | possible | Apr 23 02:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you have checked the motherboard and looked for the pinouts? also check the bios rom setup for usb. Its unlikely an 486sx board has that | Apr 23 02:03 |
| cubezzz | this is 486SLC | Apr 23 02:03 |
| cubezzz | I've had it apart | Apr 23 02:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | however, you can get scsi for it | Apr 23 02:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | cheap now too on ebay | Apr 23 02:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | scsi2 | Apr 23 02:04 |
| cubezzz | ah... look at this | Apr 23 02:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or 1 | Apr 23 02:04 |
| cubezzz | "The USB specifications only cover PCI bus interfaces. Nobody has a standard | Apr 23 02:04 |
| cubezzz | for a non PCI USB controller" | Apr 23 02:04 |
| cubezzz | so it's either old cdrom or SCSI 50-pin controller | Apr 23 02:05 |
| cubezzz | or IDE ISA controller | Apr 23 02:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | better than mfm | Apr 23 02:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I still remember the park command in dos | Apr 23 02:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or rll | Apr 23 02:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | set that 486 by the curb and do yourself a favor | Apr 23 02:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you could try to put OS/2 Warp 3 on it | Apr 23 02:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if you into pain | Apr 23 02:07 |
| cubezzz | dude, I'm about to buy an AMiga 1200 :) | Apr 23 02:07 |
| cubezzz | old computers don't scare me | Apr 23 02:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you would need the correct video, sound, and lan cards for it | Apr 23 02:08 |
| cubezzz | yeah I got a house full of old ISA cards | Apr 23 02:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but that would be your best system outside of early linux | Apr 23 02:08 |
| cubezzz | it's an eduquest :) | Apr 23 02:08 |
| cubezzz | monitor is built-in | Apr 23 02:08 |
| cubezzz | weighs a ton too | Apr 23 02:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it might even be the best option as 95 is too unstable | Apr 23 02:09 |
| cubezzz | I could put ms dos on it :) | Apr 23 02:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | at least the 95A version was | Apr 23 02:09 |
| cubezzz | actually I enjoy getting old computers working again | Apr 23 02:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I preferred dos to 95A | Apr 23 02:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | there is a way to run dos on the internet | Apr 23 02:10 |
| cubezzz | I'd play old dos games on it | Apr 23 02:10 |
| cubezzz | uh yeah I've done it before | Apr 23 02:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | win3.11 | Apr 23 02:10 |
| cubezzz | it's not pretty :) | Apr 23 02:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | too | Apr 23 02:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it would fly with dos and w3.x | Apr 23 02:11 |
| cubezzz | Amiga is more fun than clunker 486's though | Apr 23 02:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I missed Amiga when it was going | Apr 23 02:12 |
| cubezzz | it's the best for hacking | Apr 23 02:12 |
| cubezzz | all the roms and everything are completely documented | Apr 23 02:13 |
| cubezzz | all the chips too | Apr 23 02:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | OS/2 was good, if you knew your dos commands well | Apr 23 02:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I had early version of system commander, which is like grub, but not free | Apr 23 02:14 |
| cubezzz | there didn't seem to be much software for it | Apr 23 02:14 |
| cubezzz | were there OS/2 games? | Apr 23 02:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so I played with a lot of the older stuff even back then | Apr 23 02:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, there are some OS/2 games | Apr 23 02:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | hobbes is still around a big source of OS/2 software you can download | Apr 23 02:15 |
| cubezzz | closed source OS though | Apr 23 02:16 |
| cubezzz | mainly I'm a Linux person these days | Apr 23 02:16 |
| cubezzz | once I get the Amiga 1200 I'll have a completely open computer :) | Apr 23 02:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, of course its not free. That we understand. But back in its day on some hardware, it was good. There was only about 200 viruses for OS/2, mostly floppy based at the time | Apr 23 02:19 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure it was better than windows | Apr 23 02:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | still OS/2 and eComstation are dated now. Ripping disks etc, not sure you can do that on those systems | Apr 23 02:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Will a #coffee jumpstart me into action? | Apr 23 02:20 | |
| cubezzz | there's nothing as open as old school amiga | Apr 23 02:20 |
| cubezzz | if you look on ebay for Amiga 4000 there are _still_ pricey | Apr 23 02:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but you need an amiga for that | Apr 23 02:21 |
| cubezzz | it will be my fun computer | Apr 23 02:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | a 486sx with windows 95a on it is junk, but with linux, dos/win3.1, or OS/2 it might be somewhat useful | Apr 23 02:22 |
| cubezzz | sure | Apr 23 02:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | still, a waste of time | Apr 23 02:23 |
| cubezzz | well I'm running dosbox | Apr 23 02:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but a nice trip back into time | Apr 23 02:23 |
| cubezzz | why not run the real thing? | Apr 23 02:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have a vdi of OS/2 4.0 | Apr 23 02:23 |
| cubezzz | it's not a waste of time if I'm having fun | Apr 23 02:24 |
| cubezzz | I got my other computers for "real work" :) | Apr 23 02:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but I am having trouble getting the Guest Additions installed correctly in OS/2 | Apr 23 02:25 |
| cubezzz | one of my friends still uses a mechanical lawn mower :) | Apr 23 02:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | cubezzz> you are correct, if you are having fun or learning something | Apr 23 02:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sometimes too its the challage of the thing | Apr 23 02:26 |
| cubezzz | fixing stuff is fun too | Apr 23 02:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Apr 23 02:27 |
| cubezzz | I wish I could fix cdroms | Apr 23 02:28 |
| cubezzz | I got a whole stack of bad ones | Apr 23 02:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | only dvd burners are worth the time to fix | Apr 23 02:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Imprisoned blogger Hossein Derakhshan off #google #news radar entirely.. Didn't know he was denied entry to #US: http://bit.ly/9GIVrg #hoder | Apr 23 02:30 | |
| cubezzz | I don't even know anyone who can fix those | Apr 23 02:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and those you can buy for $20 on newegg | Apr 23 02:30 |
| cubezzz | well, the manufacturer probably could | Apr 23 02:30 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Apr 23 02:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | some have belts in them that can be replaced, other than that and a cleaning disk, throw them away | Apr 23 02:31 |
| cubezzz | Chips_B_Malroy, this old dos game I really like only needs 386SX/33MHz or better to run | Apr 23 02:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ergeekgoddess help earth, remember how mom used to wash dishes in a container filled with water? // oh come on, how is that even possible! | Apr 23 02:32 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | what is it? | Apr 23 02:32 |
| cubezzz | Lands of Lore | Apr 23 02:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, heard of it, but not played it | Apr 23 02:33 |
| cubezzz | it's good | Apr 23 02:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | remember the Commander Keene games? | Apr 23 02:33 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 23 02:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Wolfenstein 3D? | Apr 23 02:34 |
| cubezzz | yeah :) | Apr 23 02:34 |
| cubezzz | I've played a lot of games in my day | Apr 23 02:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Civilization? | Apr 23 02:34 |
| cubezzz | didn't like it | Apr 23 02:35 |
| cubezzz | never got into it | Apr 23 02:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The first Tomb Raider on CD was dos | Apr 23 02:35 |
| cubezzz | Tomb Raider was OK | Apr 23 02:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | game of the year too | Apr 23 02:35 |
| cubezzz | I've been playing games on computer since the Commodore PET came out | Apr 23 02:35 |
| cubezzz | so since the late 70's :) | Apr 23 02:35 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | it ran slow in dosbox last time I tried Tomb Raider, but i have a quad now and should try it again | Apr 23 02:36 |
| cubezzz | when arcades had b&w games and electro-mechanical pinball machines | Apr 23 02:36 |
| cubezzz | before cpus even :) | Apr 23 02:36 |
| cubezzz | what are the hardware requirements for Tomb Raider? | Apr 23 02:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you can get almost all the Tomb Raider games to work in Linux by using a Playstation emulator | Apr 23 02:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | your 486 should play the orginal Tomb Raider I would think | Apr 23 02:37 |
| cubezzz | real thing > emulator :) | Apr 23 02:37 |
| cubezzz | emulators are good though | Apr 23 02:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not always, dosbox is very impressive | Apr 23 02:39 |
| cubezzz | it is | Apr 23 02:39 |
| cubezzz | definitely, I used it a lot | Apr 23 02:39 |
| cubezzz | I wrote a fair number of dos programs | Apr 23 02:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | tomb raider worked better in psxe than dosbox, if you have the playstation 1 disk | Apr 23 02:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "If #Microsoft knows anything, it knows how to do underdog" Uh.... come again? What nonsense. #minimsft http://bit.ly/dClnRr cc @schestowitz | Apr 23 02:40 | |
| cubezzz | I think the playstation had better video capabilities than most msdos PCs | Apr 23 02:40 |
| cubezzz | but playstation was a closed box... | Apr 23 02:41 |
| cubezzz | except for those guys who really know how to hack | Apr 23 02:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | could be, it was playable maybe in dosbox with faster computers than what I had at the time | Apr 23 02:41 |
| cubezzz | definitely, playstation could do full screen video playback | Apr 23 02:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I had money to waste on games back then | Apr 23 02:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | most of the games, you just looked at, they really were not that good. Few had replayablity too. | Apr 23 02:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which is one reason, there is fewer true diehard gamers around | Apr 23 02:44 |
| cubezzz | Chips_B_Malroy, you'd be surprised what jobs come my way sometimes | Apr 23 02:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS also helped kill off gamers with Vi$ta | Apr 23 02:45 |
| cubezzz | one guy asked me to fix his sega mater system :) | Apr 23 02:45 |
| cubezzz | well they also killed off the hobbyist programmer | Apr 23 02:45 |
| cubezzz | to a large degree | Apr 23 02:45 |
| cubezzz | er, sega master system | Apr 23 02:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Gates did that a long time ago | Apr 23 02:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | his letter to hobbyists | Apr 23 02:46 |
| cubezzz | right | Apr 23 02:46 |
| cubezzz | except we still have hackers on Linux of course | Apr 23 02:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Losses Online Increase, Business Software Group Down http://ur1.ca/wk4g The truth about Microsoft's financial results | Apr 23 02:46 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that had to inspire RMS, the Gates lettter to hobbyists. | Apr 23 02:46 |
| cubezzz | that was in the altair days | Apr 23 02:47 |
| cubezzz | before GNU even so yeah, it probably had an effect | Apr 23 02:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 delusional Microsoft employee. See http://techrights.org/2010/04/22/spin-free-financial-results/ | Apr 23 02:47 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | RMS I think had already started the GNU project under another name even before the hobbyists letter by Gates, if memory serves me right | Apr 23 02:47 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | ok, maybe I did forget there | Apr 23 02:48 |
| cubezzz | yeah the idea of a portable OS | Apr 23 02:48 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | a free os | Apr 23 02:48 |
| cubezzz | because the PDP-10 hardware had unportable programs | Apr 23 02:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | one that people would not have to pay to reinvent the wheel every time | Apr 23 02:49 |
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| cubezzz | but now we have a new problem... the x86 problem | Apr 23 02:49 |
| cubezzz | SGI died, and Sun... who knows what will happen to Sparc? | Apr 23 02:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | one that coders could share the knowledge (programs) and build upon others works for the good of all | Apr 23 02:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or AMD for that matter | Apr 23 02:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | there is a reason why the MS shills refer to GNU/Linux as a hobbyists OS sometimes. Its goes back to that letter by Gates. | Apr 23 02:51 |
| cubezzz | except for Google, IBM, Dlink, Sony, etc, etc :) | Apr 23 02:52 |
| cubezzz | leapfrog | Apr 23 02:52 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure there's a thousand others | Apr 23 02:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The insult and greed by Gates in that letter, helped caused his biggest nightmare, GNU system. | Apr 23 02:52 |
| cubezzz | well the AT&T breakup helped too | Apr 23 02:53 |
| cubezzz | and Stallman uses BSD in the beginning | Apr 23 02:53 |
| cubezzz | so actually things are looking not too bad now | Apr 23 02:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I doubt if you can put anything newer than kernel 2.4 on that old 486, at least of older AMD 586's you can't | Apr 23 02:55 |
| cubezzz | in a lot of ways, Linux has won | Apr 23 02:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe even the old K6's | Apr 23 02:55 |
| cubezzz | yeah I think DSL is 2.4 | Apr 23 02:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Linux has won here, and I continue to help others escape the vile money grubbing ways of the viral magnet know as Windows | Apr 23 02:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | latest DSL's used 2.6 kernels | Apr 23 02:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | last, maybe last two versions | Apr 23 02:57 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Apr 23 02:57 |
| cubezzz | well I got to get the cdrom working first | Apr 23 02:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you can check it out on the distrowatch site, its tells you which you need | Apr 23 02:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | antiX is all 2.6 | Apr 23 02:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Puppy went to 2.6 long before DSL too | Apr 23 02:58 |
| cubezzz | I'm running 2.4 on this box actually | Apr 23 03:00 |
| cubezzz | and the zaurus is 2.4 as well | Apr 23 03:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | some older versions of Kate and Feather that used 2.4 woud be ok. Slax would be questionable, but might be ok. You video will be the real problem, framebuffer most likely | Apr 23 03:00 |
| cubezzz | I can run lower bpp | Apr 23 03:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They dropped some hardware support for old stuff in 2.6 | Apr 23 03:01 |
| cubezzz | well that's why I keep all the source for everything I have | Apr 23 03:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz [#minimsft =] delusional #Microsoft employee. See http://bit.ly/9NTGsR //our dear friend Joseph Tart-it-up again | Apr 23 03:01 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | 2.4 was still under development last I looked | Apr 23 03:01 |
| cubezzz | heh | Apr 23 03:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its nice to get the Debian disks as you get the repo's too | Apr 23 03:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | good for older hardware that way | Apr 23 03:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or if repo's go offline | Apr 23 03:03 |
| cubezzz | yeah I have the fc1 source iso's | Apr 23 03:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | think I have Red Hat back to 4.2 | Apr 23 03:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | install disks | Apr 23 03:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Debian and Slackware too | Apr 23 03:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | don't have every version but most | Apr 23 03:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | with the floppy to boot them | Apr 23 03:05 |
| cubezzz | you probably have more stuff than I do | Apr 23 03:05 |
| cubezzz | how long have you been using Linux? | Apr 23 03:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its hard for me to part with the past somehow | Apr 23 03:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I tried Linux back then | Apr 23 03:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | before I even had the internet | Apr 23 03:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe 4 or 5 years now fulltime mostly | Apr 23 03:07 |
| cubezzz | I dabbled in 1994 with Darkstar 0.94 | Apr 23 03:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | back then, there was only the man pages | Apr 23 03:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I had no internet or anyone to ask | Apr 23 03:07 |
| cubezzz | we had CRS in those days | Apr 23 03:08 |
| cubezzz | with Fidonet :) | Apr 23 03:08 |
| cubezzz | thats when Commodore died actually, 1994 | Apr 23 03:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I knew Linux was something special, but it never quite did everything (or at least more likely I did not know how) I needed | Apr 23 03:09 |
| cubezzz | the whole Amiga line only lasted 9 years | Apr 23 03:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | internet back then for me was all long distance phone calls | Apr 23 03:09 |
| cubezzz | well the whole GNU thing took me a while to fully appreciate | Apr 23 03:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I probably could have moved to Mandrake, Red hat, if I only had internet back in 99 | Apr 23 03:11 |
| cubezzz | uh huh, using doze then were you? :) | Apr 23 03:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | still, I got some use out it | Apr 23 03:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 98se | Apr 23 03:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ugh | Apr 23 03:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | then NT4 | Apr 23 03:12 |
| cubezzz | well at least you're fully on Linux now | Apr 23 03:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Apr 23 03:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I only boot up xp in virtualbox to show newbies or windows users | Apr 23 03:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it impresses them to try linux | Apr 23 03:13 |
| cubezzz | I do laptop installs quite frequently for people | Apr 23 03:13 |
| cubezzz | and they pay me :) | Apr 23 03:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | see, copy this snapshot vdi file over your old virtualbox xp vdi with the new malware in it, and wal-la, malware gone, instantly! | Apr 23 03:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | good sales pitch for linux | Apr 23 03:14 |
| cubezzz | but... wouldn't it be even better to not use doze at all? | Apr 23 03:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | A huge windows install in just a few seconds | Apr 23 03:15 |
| cubezzz | heck, you could use live cd's for online banking | Apr 23 03:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, its better not to use winders at all, but almost impossible to get most to do that | Apr 23 03:15 |
| cubezzz | my customers are about 50/50 now | Apr 23 03:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they have to fall back some on winders, its what they sort of know | Apr 23 03:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | gradually get them off it | Apr 23 03:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | VB is the best way to do that | Apr 23 03:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RE: @TPCblog @ Lynne What are we a third world country? // yes. you just got there a bit later than the rest of us. http://disq.us/dldgh | Apr 23 03:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz love the re-branding, congratulations http://techrights.org #techrights #microsoft #gpl | Apr 23 03:20 | |
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| cubezzz | I could always dual boot msdos and Linux on this thing | Apr 23 03:24 |
| cubezzz | older cdroms were even better in some ways | Apr 23 03:25 |
| cubezzz | you could play an audio cd without any OS at all | Apr 23 03:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if you have the audio cable installed. most of the newer machines do not install the cable, but you still can | Apr 23 03:36 |
| cubezzz | no you don't even need that | Apr 23 03:36 |
| cubezzz | it outputs out the mini-stereo jack in the front :) | Apr 23 03:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | oh, you mean the play button and the headphone jack | Apr 23 03:36 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 23 03:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, the dvd burners of today got rid of those | Apr 23 03:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have a dvd rom player that has that yet | Apr 23 03:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | most of the new motherboard do not have parallel or midi ports anymore too | Apr 23 03:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | some are even getting rid of legacy ide | Apr 23 03:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the older operating systems were analog sound, meaning you needed the audio cable hooked up between the soundcard and the cdrom. While newer OS'es like XP and linux do not need that as they use the digial sound thru the ide/stata cables | Apr 23 03:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *sata | Apr 23 03:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Microsoft Windows - Disaster Movie At Eleven! or How to spend IT Money Wisely http://bit.ly/9WBEN4 | Apr 23 03:59 | |
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| cubezzz | a motherboard shouldn't have sound card built-in | Apr 23 04:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | many newer ones do | Apr 23 04:03 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure almost all of new boards do | Apr 23 04:05 |
| cubezzz | but it's not a good design | Apr 23 04:05 |
| cubezzz | now there's form factors like BTX and WTX | Apr 23 04:08 |
| cubezzz | things are getting more proprietary in hardware | Apr 23 04:09 |
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| cubezzz | hello | Apr 23 04:18 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] I agree with Jon Stewart's take on Revolution Muslim. Well said! *claps* They can, go fuck themselves, as many times as hey like. :) | Apr 23 04:26 | |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: so how the Amiga hunt going? | Apr 23 04:40 |
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| Ziomatrix | greetings | Apr 23 04:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It would seem that Microsoft did not make as much as they did before this recession started. But even less, when you consider that MS reduced the workforce by about 5800 people. And probably another group that large of contractors as well. There were other cost cutting measures employed as well. So saying they came close to the same level as before, is not really true. | Apr 23 04:50 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] India's #copyright bill doesn't suck http://ur1.ca/wko2 | Apr 23 05:03 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Even Native Americans are religious extremists http://ur1.ca/wkp1 | Apr 23 05:13 | |
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| Ziomatrix | I disagree with Diablod3 assesment of those Native Americans being angry only because the Arizona University research students are studying the origin of their people that contradicts with their teaching, but the fact that they are doing it while not conveying that they would while going on a promise that they would look into why diabetes was so prevalent in their tribe. | Apr 23 05:22 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] So why aren't these cops in prison for the next 20 years? http://ur1.ca/wkq3 #douchebags | Apr 23 05:23 | |
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| cubezzz | Ziomatrix, I'm going to get it from amigakit.com, next pay | Apr 23 06:11 |
| cubezzz | I don't think they like the term "native American" | Apr 23 06:12 |
| cubezzz | oh yeah, I was going to fix that 486 | Apr 23 06:13 |
| cubezzz | http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=40_85&products_id=668 | Apr 23 06:14 |
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| cubezzz | wonder what RTB means | Apr 23 06:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz tell chips that I don't think he did, Andre will be back, he always comes back. Sorry I'm not in irc, on train. | Apr 23 07:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] So the talk today on the net seems to mention Ubuntu Rc...of course the MS advocates will be on standby..it will be a busy day for them | Apr 23 07:25 | |
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| cubezzz | power supply pooped out :-/ | Apr 23 07:28 |
| cubezzz | I got like a dozen bad power supplies now | Apr 23 07:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] the last.fm Shot Of Jaq page needs some love - anyone want to help fill http://www.last.fm/music/Shot+of+Jaq with more info? #shotofjaq | Apr 23 07:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Ground Control 1.6 and new website! http://divajutta.com/doctormo/gcweb #ubuntu #launchpad #opportunisticdevelopers | Apr 23 07:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input. Take control of the channels by (cont) http://tl.gd/1001ab | Apr 23 07:52 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Twitlonger: “Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input. Take control of the chan .::. Size~: 7.44 KB | Apr 23 07:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Sam Harris: "How to bake a delicious cheesecake out of horse manure." #AntiAtheism #AntiDawkins | Apr 23 07:59 | |
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| cubezzz | number one cause of death: heart disease | Apr 23 08:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Sam Harris.. http://twitpic.com/1hp3p6 | Apr 23 08:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez Sam Harris is relatively polite, you ought to go after Hitchens | Apr 23 08:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_Goblin ok, mate | Apr 23 08:32 | |
| MinceR | j0 | Apr 23 09:03 |
| schestowitz | yo | Apr 23 09:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #SoftwarePatents in Codecs, Web Font #DRM , and Likewise-HP http://techrights.org/2010/04/23/microsoft-walking-among-patents/ | Apr 23 09:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I know. But Harris is an ignorant with a PHD. For example, in his recent presentation at TED (the factory of (cont) http://tl.gd/100mqg | Apr 23 09:19 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Twitlonger: I know. But Harris is an ignorant with a PHD. For example, in his recent presentation at TED (the fa .::. Size~: 7.83 KB | Apr 23 09:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz I know, but Sam Harris is an ignorant with a PHD. (Here's why: http://tl.gd/100mqg) | Apr 23 09:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez I didn't know he had finished it | Apr 23 09:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Finished what exactly? | Apr 23 09:38 | |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, do you have any stories about Meguel de Icaza? Can you link me their index on the Techrights wiki? | Apr 23 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Apr 23 09:56 |
| schestowitz | See the wiki pages on "Mono" and "Moonlight" | Apr 23 09:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Asturian Language Academy migration to #Ubuntu , #GNU #Linux Mindshare Increases http://ur1.ca/wlqx http://ur1.ca/wlr0 | Apr 23 09:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez his PhD | Apr 23 09:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Oh, yeah, well I guess he did. | Apr 23 09:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows Unable to Catch up with #GNU #Linux in CLI Value http://ur1.ca/wlrm | Apr 23 10:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Computer Systems in Law Enforcement, GNU/Linux No Longer "Indie" http://ur1.ca/wlrv http://ur1.ca/wh8d | Apr 23 10:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez his talks were never exciting. Repetitive too | Apr 23 10:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #China Releases #RedFlag #Linux Desktop 6.0 SP3 http://ur1.ca/w0sc apropos: http://ur1.ca/wlsm | Apr 23 10:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @glynmoody #NHS computers hit by voracious, data-stealing worm - http://bit.ly/aLeLBy this is #Microsoft #Windows-only - never mentioned | Apr 23 10:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] An "Extreme Desktop Makeover" in #GNU #Linux; Rig Gallery http://ur1.ca/wlt2 http://ur1.ca/wlt3 | Apr 23 10:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] NHS computers hit by voracious, data-stealing worm http://bit.ly/aLeLBy No mention that it only affects Windows computers. via @glynmoody | Apr 23 10:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] HPC With #GNU #Linux on #Cray Servers http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/19/cray_third_gen_linux/ http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7756/ | Apr 23 10:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Computers with #GNU #Linux #ChromeOS to Cost Around $300 http://ur1.ca/wltj http://ur1.ca/wltl http://ur1.ca/wltn | Apr 23 10:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Which adds up to the fact that the four men Harris, Dawikins, Hitchens and Dennett are merely four string dolls, nothing more. | Apr 23 10:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New 10 Gig E Switches Unveiled at High Performance Computing #Linux Financial Markets http://ur1.ca/wluj http://ur1.ca/wluk | Apr 23 10:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez the "four horsemen" I think they're called | Apr 23 10:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz I know. They should instead be called "The four string dolls". | Apr 23 10:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Speaks About #FogComputing http://business.asiaone.com/Business/Tech%2BSense/Story/A1Story20100419-211207.html | Apr 23 10:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux 2.6.34 is in Fifth RC, SiTouch Wireless Keyboard Now Linux Compatible http://ur1.ca/wlwk http://ur1.ca/wlwl | Apr 23 10:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenGL 4.0 More Fully Exploited by #Unigine http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE2MQ big X on DirectX? Not yet. | Apr 23 10:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Da Vinci Prioritises #GNU #Linux for Heavy Work, Mac OS X Just for Play http://ur1.ca/wlx6 http://ur1.ca/wlx8 | Apr 23 10:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Steam is Coming to GNU/Linux! http://ur1.ca/wlxk http://ur1.ca/wbq2 http://ur1.ca/wgso http://ur1.ca/wj8p | Apr 23 10:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sabayon CoreCD 5.2 is Out and Short Review Made Available http://wgo.wolf911.us/?p=357 http://ur1.ca/wlxw #gnu #linux | Apr 23 10:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Release of #KahelOS (050110) and Already a Review http://ur1.ca/wlyb http://www.kahelos.org/ #gnu #linux | Apr 23 10:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rayvelline #MSG is a toxic #Food Additive http://bit.ly/aCp4EU //+often unlabelled, thx to loopholes. more at http://holisticmed.com/msg/ | Apr 23 10:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2010 Reviewed, Has 6 Variants http://ur1.ca/wm14 http://ur1.ca/wm15 http://ur1.ca/wm16 http://ur1.ca/wm17 | Apr 23 10:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva #KDE Gets Mailing Lists http://neoclust.free.fr/blog/?p=62 | Apr 23 10:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez Heh. That's a funny one. | Apr 23 10:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Enterprise #Linux 6 Surfaces http://ur1.ca/wm23 http://ur1.ca/wm26 http://ur1.ca/wm28 http://ur1.ca/wm2a | Apr 23 10:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 14 Codenames Start Coming, NetworkManager Improved by #RedHat http://ur1.ca/wm2k http://ur1.ca/wgax | Apr 23 10:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Reaches RC, a Lot More News Arriving http://ur1.ca/wm4c http://ur1.ca/wm4e http://ur1.ca/wm4f | Apr 23 11:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #OCR #SDK for #Linux http://ur1.ca/wm6e http://ur1.ca/wm6f | Apr 23 11:05 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Man added to no-fly list during flight http://ur1.ca/wm5l #TSA still a bunch of douchebags | Apr 23 11:08 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Man put on ‘no-fly list’ while in air to NYC - Security- msnbc.com .::. Size~: 48.64 KB | Apr 23 11:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] '#Knuth points out that while the first binary search was published in 1946, the first without bugs did not appear until 1962' Jon Bentley | Apr 23 11:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @rayvelline is always coming up with relevant messages | Apr 23 11:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @schestowitz is a superhero going forth every day fighting evil at http://techrights.org/ | Apr 23 11:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday ninja nutritionist @meghantelpner is living proof that good #nutrition can keep you healthy and very energetic. #health #food | Apr 23 11:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Cuckoo Clock With Microblogging Runs #Linux http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/cuckoo-clock-shows-tweets-and-chirps/ | Apr 23 11:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @debasishg is an erudite #functional programming tweeter I recently found who keeps up with smarties like @ulfwiger. #erlang | Apr 23 11:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Pandora, the #Linux -based Console, Comes to the United Kingdom http://ur1.ca/wm8y | Apr 23 11:17 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Pandora gaming console finally shipping to UK | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 58.06 KB | Apr 23 11:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Lexicon Alpha Works with #Linux http://soundsoflinux.blogspot.com/2010/04/lexicon-alpha-works-with-linux.html | Apr 23 11:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Wall-mounted Touch Screen Powered by #Linux http://www.handlewithlinux.com/wall-mounted-green-linux-pc | Apr 23 11:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @avivao @mrpower @tehranweekly @careabthealth @GreeGreece @GMWatch @AmazonWatch <— These ppl will keep you VERY informed. :) | Apr 23 11:18 | |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: wall mounted touch screen linux computer features "green" technology | Handle With Linux .::. Size~: 28.41 KB | Apr 23 11:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @codepinkalert Because Karl Rove needs to answer to the courts. cc @GWBProsecution | Apr 23 11:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux Takes Over Apple hypePhones http://ur1.ca/wm9t http://ur1.ca/wm9u http://ur1.ca/wm9v | Apr 23 11:20 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Video shows Android OS running on an iPhone | Electronista .::. Size~: 86.91 KB | Apr 23 11:20 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Hacker runs Google's Android on Apple's iPhone | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 169.59 KB | Apr 23 11:20 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @hooty_owl @spymaami These girls will play you like a fiddle. | Apr 23 11:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia to Use #GNU #Linux in Small Computers http://ur1.ca/wma6 http://ur1.ca/wma7 http://ur1.ca/wma8 | Apr 23 11:21 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Intel's Meego OS to Reach Mainstream Laptops - PCWorld .::. Size~: 67 KB | Apr 23 11:21 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: MeeGo mobile Linux will also do laptops and desktops .::. Size~: 28.42 KB | Apr 23 11:21 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ASUS Sub-notebooks Sold With #GNU #Linux for $170 http://www.i4u.com/article32925.html (Refurbished) | Apr 23 11:23 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Refurbished ASUS Atom 1.6GHz 9" Netbook for $170 + free shipping .::. Size~: 17.85 KB | Apr 23 11:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #NetWalker With #GNU #Linux Turns to Tablets Form Factor http://ur1.ca/wmae http://ur1.ca/wmaf http://ur1.ca/w0t4 | Apr 23 11:25 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Sharp new Linux NetWalker tablet to hit Japan next month. « Akihabara News .::. Size~: 64.85 KB | Apr 23 11:25 |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: Sharp updates NetWalker to be Linux tablet – Computer Chips & Hardware Technology | Geek.com .::. Size~: 54.68 KB | Apr 23 11:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Advice to People Seeking to Help Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/wmav http://ur1.ca/wmaw | Apr 23 11:27 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Questions to Ask if Youre Thinking of Getting Involved in Open Source .::. Size~: 33.33 KB | Apr 23 11:27 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Moral obligations of Free Software authors? | The Changelog .::. Size~: 73.93 KB | Apr 23 11:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Discussion about software patents on Linux Weekly News: http://ur1.ca/wmb2 | Apr 23 11:28 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Film: "Patent absurdity" [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 74 KB | Apr 23 11:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] eZ Components Enters #Apache http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/PHP-library-eZ-Components-to-be-an-Apache-Project-982082.html #php | Apr 23 11:41 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: PHP library eZ Components to be an Apache Project - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.79 KB | Apr 23 11:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] NZ Labour party on software patents: "software patents create a lottery around control of your own efforts" http://ur1.ca/wmd2 | Apr 23 11:42 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Labour party on software patents | The New Zealand Open Source Society .::. Size~: 13.96 KB | Apr 23 11:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla #Firefox 3.6.4 Becomes More Stable http://ur1.ca/wmdm http://ur1.ca/wmdq | Apr 23 11:44 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Mozilla to cordon off plugin crashes with Firefox 3.6.4 beta • The Register .::. Size~: 31.08 KB | Apr 23 11:44 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenOffice .org Presenter in Review; New Interface Coming http://ur1.ca/wmeg http://ur1.ca/w7bm http://ur1.ca/wmeh | Apr 23 11:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IHRNA (Australia) Web Site Goes Live With Free #CMS Software http://ur1.ca/wmep http://ur1.ca/wmeq | Apr 23 11:47 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: IHRNA uses open source platform for new website - Torres Straight Islanders, open source, joomla, Indigenous Australians, Human Rights - Computerworld .::. Size~: 68.47 KB | Apr 23 11:47 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] White House Becomes a #PHP Hacker, Gives Code to #Drupal http://ur1.ca/wmey http://ur1.ca/wmf1 http://ur1.ca/whvr | Apr 23 11:48 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: White House delivers Drupal a stimulus | Open Source | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 80.51 KB | Apr 23 11:48 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Education With Free Software Has Greater Appeal, http://ur1.ca/wmf7 #Moodle Introduced http://ur1.ca/vrv3 | Apr 23 11:50 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Open source training more attractive to workers - Open Source - Special Reports - Insight .::. Size~: 54.46 KB | Apr 23 11:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Panasonic TVs - Powered by #BSD http://www.freebsdnews.net/2010/04/21/panasonic-tvs-running-freebsd/ | Apr 23 12:02 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Some Panasonic TVs running FreeBSD | FreeBSD - the unknown Giant .::. Size~: 32.92 KB | Apr 23 12:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GPL Compliance Made Easier Without #SFLC Pressure http://ur1.ca/vf30 | Apr 23 12:05 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Free tools will prevent firms burning fingers on open source | TechEye - All the technology news unfit for print .::. Size~: 15.82 KB | Apr 23 12:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU-Darwin is Alive http://www.advogato.org/article/1039.html #gnu #fsf | Apr 23 12:06 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Advogato: Hacking computers, hacking life .::. Size~: 10.37 KB | Apr 23 12:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GLib 2.25.0 is Released http://www.compatdb.org/forums/topic/62278-glib-2250-released/ | Apr 23 12:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Italy and #Nigeria Promote National Interests With #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/wmjz http://ur1.ca/wmk0 | Apr 23 12:09 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Italy to begin an open source competence centre — .::. Size~: 30.08 KB | Apr 23 12:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Cuba Attains More Technological Independence With #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/wmkc http://ur1.ca/wmkd | Apr 23 12:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Am I the only one who finds Google Listen (podcast downloader) impenetrably hard to use!? | Apr 23 12:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Open Access /Content from SETI, #OpenStreetMap Reaches Mazing Milestone http://ur1.ca/wmku http://ur1.ca/wmkv | Apr 23 12:14 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: SETI Releases Its Collected Data to the Public, Wants Open-Source Search for Whatever's Out There | Popular Science .::. Size~: 79.46 KB | Apr 23 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: OpenStreetMap to reach 250,000 contributors today - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.87 KB | Apr 23 12:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Openness/Freedom Comes to School Literature in the US http://ur1.ca/wml7 http://ur1.ca/wml9 http://ur1.ca/wmla | Apr 23 12:16 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: LBJ School Student Research Calls for Open-Source Data, Better Transparency in Texas State Finance | The University of Texas at Austin .::. Size~: 20.58 KB | Apr 23 12:16 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The open source textbook is an open-source experiment | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 83.61 KB | Apr 23 12:16 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: More Texas school districts look at whether to switch to online textbooks | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Breaking News for Dallas-Fort Worth | Dallas Morning News .::. Size~: 137.32 KB | Apr 23 12:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LLVM & #Clang Compared to #GCC 4.5 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=gcc_llvm_clang&num=1 | Apr 23 12:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] [ commercial/social ] Qualified lead in Deharadun any takers ?? http://post.ly/cZo2 | Apr 23 12:17 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: [Phoronix] Benchmarking LLVM & Clang Against GCC 4.5 .::. Size~: 20.41 KB | Apr 23 12:17 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] WOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot! It's friday which means.. Fish, Chips & Mushy Peas! | Apr 23 12:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You may reexamine family issues today, especially if a current... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11 | Apr 23 12:22 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Two new chapters of The Legend of Koizumi are up http://ur1.ca/m3n9 | Apr 23 12:53 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Manga Fox: Mudazumo Naki Kaikaku Manga Series .::. Size~: 38.39 KB | Apr 23 12:53 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @trmanco what's w/ the pseudo-science horoscopes? | Apr 23 12:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@BFarp Sue Lowden was misunderstood; meant you could pay doctors with pigs&beets too,not just chickens //quite clear: http://bit.ly/bprXNn | Apr 23 12:59 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Political Carnival: GOP state rep.: "I know someone in the medical field who has been paid with vegetables" .::. Size~: 167.13 KB | Apr 23 12:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@indiaknight but he'll be *mortified*, Mindy. Your obligation is clear: Have revised cards printed. | Apr 23 13:00 | |
| oiaohm | Boy I hate playing router fun. 8 routers and 8 power packs just for fun people mixed up what one owns to what one. | Apr 23 13:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: this is why they make colored tape of all different colors | Apr 23 13:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Wiki page about the #NHS and its relationship with #Microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/NHS | Apr 23 13:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "Asustek Eee Pad to hit channel in July" http://bit.ly/aGpZ1r http://bit.ly/bZs4aM Wonder what OS it has.. | Apr 23 13:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oooh, Android tablet.. http://bit.ly/d3f8Ic interesting.. | Apr 23 13:26 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Confirmed: Asus Eee Pad debuts at Computex 2010 .::. Size~: 17.11 KB | Apr 23 13:26 |
| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: Problem here that was not done in the first place. I normally use white insulation tape and write the power type required on the router. But this was some lazy so and so who did not color tag or write power requirements on the devices. | Apr 23 13:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, time to look at the devices then | Apr 23 13:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | somewhere on it it must say what it uses | Apr 23 13:36 |
| oiaohm | And australian device regs sux. All the power ports on these devices have is. PWR no volts no amps no nothing | Apr 23 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | erm | Apr 23 13:36 |
| oiaohm | So its download and search the manuals. | Apr 23 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wonder how you got the devices then | Apr 23 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | because almost EVERY OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET REQUIRES THAT | Apr 23 13:36 |
| oiaohm | If not in those find spec sheets. | Apr 23 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | its more expensive to admit it | Apr 23 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | er | Apr 23 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | omit it | Apr 23 13:36 |
| oiaohm | If no in those find adverstising documents. | Apr 23 13:36 |
| oiaohm | Yes complete stupid here. | Apr 23 13:37 |
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| oiaohm | They have to publish in some form to be legal. Diablo-D3 | Apr 23 13:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | what Im saying is | Apr 23 13:37 |
| oiaohm | But nothing says it has to be on the spec sheet or the manual. | Apr 23 13:37 |
| oiaohm | Or device. | Apr 23 13:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | its more expensive to do something other than what EVERYONE ELSE DOES | Apr 23 13:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, why do you think they dont make PSUs that have voltage select switches anymore | Apr 23 13:38 |
| oiaohm | Most are china made crud. | Apr 23 13:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Resurrected http://osgeex.blogspot.com after a complaint by a reader... Was thinking nobody cares. Writing a WInXP vs Ubuntu article. | Apr 23 13:38 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | its easier to make a PSU that works everywhere in the world and meet all worldwide requirements | Apr 23 13:38 |
| oiaohm | There is a reason for it. Diablo-D3 | Apr 23 13:39 |
| oiaohm | It called greed. | Apr 23 13:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: except its _more_ greedy to do it right | Apr 23 13:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | seriously. | Apr 23 13:39 |
| oiaohm | By hiding what the power port lot of people just throw away and buy another device. | Apr 23 13:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | make 100k of one thing, or two 50k batches of one thing with minorly different shit | Apr 23 13:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | its more expensive to make the two batches | Apr 23 13:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | its cheaper just to have one batch that does both | Apr 23 13:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: also, why the fuck are you even in .au | Apr 23 13:40 |
| oiaohm | Nice place to be. Diablo-D3 | Apr 23 13:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | the worst day in the Bush administration is about as good as the best day in any .au administration over the past 30 years | Apr 23 13:41 |
| oiaohm | Threw china and lot of assian countries there is no requirement to put voltage information on devices. | Apr 23 13:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, but theres a requirement in former british colonies | Apr 23 13:42 |
| oiaohm | Not very many any more Diablo-D3 | Apr 23 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | and all of you 220v countries are all alike, its easier to just go universal | Apr 23 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | and why the hell does anyone even use 220v anymore | Apr 23 13:43 |
| oiaohm | About 10 years ago it was a requirment in Australia to have the voltage information on devices using power packs. | Apr 23 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | the two most technologically advanced countries in the world use 120 | Apr 23 13:43 |
| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_power_around_the_world Look at the map. Diablo-D3 | Apr 23 13:44 |
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| oiaohm | Everything major production location in close supply to australia is around our voltage. | Apr 23 13:46 |
| oiaohm | Including china Diablo-D3 | Apr 23 13:46 |
| cubezzz | which country electrified first? | Apr 23 13:48 |
| cubezzz | ok, which president got electricity first? :) | Apr 23 13:51 |
| cubezzz | easier question | Apr 23 13:51 |
| cubezzz | Benjamin Harrison | Apr 23 13:51 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: electified first is a lot harder question. Is that the first one with power stations everywhere or first one with a full country wide power grid. | Apr 23 13:54 |
| oiaohm | Basic the 120 voltage is another case of USA being the odd one out. Diablo-D3 | Apr 23 13:57 |
| MinceR | which president got electrocuted first? | Apr 23 13:59 |
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| TheMadHatter | Morning Roy. | Apr 23 14:01 |
| TheMadHatter | Looks like someone on HuffPost has caught onto Billie Boy | Apr 23 14:02 |
| TheMadHatter | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jill-richardson/us-senate-bill-gates-give_b_548798.html | Apr 23 14:02 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Jill Richardson: US Senate, Bill Gates Give Planet a Middle Finger for Earth Day .::. Size~: 178.41 KB | Apr 23 14:02 |
| TheMadHatter | Wonder why it took them so long? | Apr 23 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | 'My' KDE bug has just been fixed. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172266 | Apr 23 14:08 |
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| oiaohm | Nice schestowitz | Apr 23 14:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IDG and The Register Don’t Call Out #Windows ; #McAfee Whitewash http://ur1.ca/wn8r #security #microsoft #nhs | Apr 23 14:17 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: IDG and The Register Dont Call Out Windows; McAfee Whitewash | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.39 KB | Apr 23 14:17 |
| *amarsh04 is going to restart soon | Apr 23 14:22 | |
| *amarsh04 may have the late loading of radeon fixed by a udev upgrade: "Start udev in the initramfs in the init-top instead of the premount hook" | Apr 23 14:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Entryism Watch: #Novell Employee Not Confirmed in #OpenOffice .org Role http://techrights.org/2010/04/23/thorsten-behrens-not-approved/ | Apr 23 14:36 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Entryism Watch: Novell Employee Not Confirmed in OpenOffice.org Role | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.42 KB | Apr 23 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Yikes http://identi.ca/notice/29657236 "@schestowitz friend, it is important to note that 2.2.5 is an unstable, development only version of #glib" | Apr 23 14:36 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Hilton Garcia Fernandes (hgfernan) 's status on Friday, 23-Apr-10 11:23:58 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.21 KB | Apr 23 14:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE3Mw Another big pillar of FUD falls over ( | Apr 23 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: [Phoronix] There Is No Doubt, Steam Is Coming To Linux! .::. Size~: 17.03 KB | Apr 23 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Linux gaming less of an issue | Apr 23 14:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Software patents and design patents are not about to be "invalidated" ....whatever that means: http://ur1.ca/wnhc | Apr 23 14:41 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Patent Absurdity: The Movie - Patent Law Blog (Patently-O) .::. Size~: 158.11 KB | Apr 23 14:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Dropped the WinXP vs Ubuntu article :-( | Apr 23 14:52 | |
| schestowitz | is docky mono based like gnome-do? | Apr 23 14:58 |
| schestowitz | They got separated | Apr 23 14:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] What about requesting the European Commission a translation of the ACTA treaty in the 23 official languages of the EU http://ur1.ca/wnn9 ? | Apr 23 15:00 | |
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| amarsh04 | yes, udev 153-1 appears to fix my radeon problem | Apr 23 15:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst how come? | Apr 23 15:05 | |
| schestowitz | I'll just assume docky is mono intrusion too | Apr 23 15:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Brother has a virus on his WinXP box, called another brother for help. Realizes that I will "impose" GNU/Linux again. | Apr 23 15:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Sonic Youth yesterday night was very good, but it was *very* hard to understand a single word due to the bass distortion. | Apr 23 15:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Why the heck do they keep up with this overpriced crap? | Apr 23 15:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] What bad did Sonic Youth's opening? They were very cool, although they were rudely and drastically cut short. Really! | Apr 23 15:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab What about requesting the European Commission a translation of the ACTA treaty in the 23 official languages of the EU? | Apr 23 15:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: Afraid Windows users will feel insulted. Don't under stand why they put up. GNU/Linux will solve their problems. | Apr 23 15:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst that's good news about your brother | Apr 23 15:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] USPTO starts rejecting software patents? http://ur1.ca/wnq1 | Apr 23 15:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: Unfortunately not. He still sticks to Microsoft :-( | Apr 23 15:20 | |
| schestowitz | Looks sweet: http://cristalinux.blogspot.com/2010/04/pclinuxos-2010-review.html | Apr 23 15:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: He has exactly the same configuration on his desktop machine as me. Ubuntu Lucid runs like a charm on it. WinXP like a snail | Apr 23 15:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst they put their foot on his table | Apr 23 15:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst what command to upgrade from 9.10? | Apr 23 15:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] hAl abuses the problems with McAffee to promote Vista7 on http://webwereld.nl What a surprise, what a disgusting Astroturfer :-( | Apr 23 15:30 | |
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| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: http://robinzrants.wordpress.com/2010/04/22/debian-doesnt-love-me/ | Apr 23 15:32 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: sudo update-manager -d (from x-terminal) | Apr 23 15:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst hAlbert da Costa? | Apr 23 15:33 | |
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| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_GREECE_FINANCIAL_CRISIS?SITE=NVLAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | Apr 23 15:39 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: No, hAl (Albert, TechRIGHTS exposed the Astroturfer). A Dutch MS AstroTurf, he edited Wikipedia articles on OOXML. | Apr 23 15:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst thanks, I'll try that from kubuntu | Apr 23 15:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst I was joking about hAl here | Apr 23 15:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: LOL, I didn't get it, hAlbert, da Costa-de Icaza. The great contributors to Free Software (also according to "Hadron" da Q00k) | Apr 23 15:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] We'll see how serious Adobe are when they abandon Photoshop & Dreamweaver for OSX http://tinyurl.com/2ex8v9w | Apr 23 15:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Da Costa frequently makes a total jackass out of him self on http://openbytes.wordpress.com. What a lunatic :-p | Apr 23 15:52 | |
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| Ziomatrix | sad news, at least for me :( : http://www.precentral.net/docstogo-webos-standstill | Apr 23 15:53 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mparent77772 Gingrich stuns: Tea Party will become 'militant wing' of GOP http://bit.ly/9d3uNv //are there 'militant' progressives?? | Apr 23 15:53 | |
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| Ziomatrix | I hope QuickOffice or maybe even some open source office application can step up to the plate, if not that then increased GoogleDocs compatibilty considering Pre users are already talking about using MS's Docs.com/ | Apr 23 15:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Should Free Software enthusiast take a MVP serious? I'm sorry I dont :-p | Apr 23 15:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Please put Lancelot back in KDE4!!! | Apr 23 16:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst no more of a lunatic than his stage-leaping CEO | Apr 23 16:02 | |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: Facek00k? | Apr 23 16:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst re "Please put Lancelot back in #KDE4 !!!" I prefer it as an addon only | Apr 23 16:03 | |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/04/when-patents-kill-innovation.html | Apr 23 16:06 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/04/when-patents-kill-innovation.html | Apr 23 16:06 |
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| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: wow, what a retard | Apr 23 16:07 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: who are you reffering those Palm users that would consider Facebook and MS's colab? Well, considering DataVitz sudden annoucement that they have done jack is probably the signal to the end of major app dev from the Pre unless someone steps up fast | Apr 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: no | Apr 23 16:14 |
| schestowitz | He was referring to some article I showed him (about Debian) | Apr 23 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: I used DocsToGo on my Palm since I was a teenager | Apr 23 16:14 |
| schestowitz | for context: "[15:32] <schestowitz> Diablo-D3: http://robinzrants.wordpress.com/2010/04/22/debian-doesnt-love-me/" | Apr 23 16:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-goldman-next-20100420,0,4289664.story | Apr 23 16:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://congress.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/04/21/senate-majority-leader-wont-return-money-to-goldman-sachs/ | Apr 23 16:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/04/obama-no-issues-with-goldman-sachs-case/1 | Apr 23 16:19 |
| schestowitz | "President Obama said today he's not embarrassed by the political contributions he received from Goldman Sachs employees, nor the fact his former White House counsel is now defending the firm against fraud allegations by the Securities and Exchange Commission." | Apr 23 16:19 |
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| schestowitz | Ob-ma!! | Apr 23 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Brought from God to save American and "do God's work" | Apr 23 16:19 |
| schestowitz | IKB considers suing Goldman Sachs for fraud | Apr 23 16:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thelocal.de/money/20100421-26705.html | Apr 23 16:20 |
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| schestowitz | I can't understand why citizens donated to the Democrats | Apr 23 16:21 |
| schestowitz | That's real donation | Apr 23 16:21 |
| schestowitz | But they get actual investments (reciprocal) from corps | Apr 23 16:21 |
| schestowitz | While playing the public for fools | Apr 23 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Berlin State Officials May Boycott Goldman, Handelsblatt Says http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aqyXaq1HKlm8 | Apr 23 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Berlin State Officials May Boycott Goldman, Handelsblatt Says - Bloomberg.com .::. Size~: 32.33 KB | Apr 23 16:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-21/bayernlb-says-it-ends-business-relationship-with-goldman-sachs.html | Apr 23 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: BayernLB Ends Its Relationship With Goldman Sachs (Update1) - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 47.64 KB | Apr 23 16:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-21/merkel-said-to-want-to-shun-goldman-sachs-amid-u-s-fraud-suit.html | Apr 23 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Merkel Said to Want to Shun Goldman Amid Fraud Suit (Update1) - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 48.35 KB | Apr 23 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/21/democrats.wall.street/?hpt=Sbin | Apr 23 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | How long can Obama defend his paymaster? | Apr 23 16:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=12356340 | Apr 23 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Welch calls for criminal investigation into Goldman Sachs - WCAX.COM Local Vermont News, Weather and Sports- .::. Size~: 32.96 KB | Apr 23 16:29 |
| schestowitz | The Republicans also play this against the Democrats in Faux. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,591375,00.html | Apr 23 16:30 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: all he had to do was act the fool or do the GW Bush thing when talk gets tough as in find a ranch or another country to travel to and stay there until the news quiets down. | Apr 23 16:31 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: one thing you can give GW credit for is he knew how to dodge issues really well | Apr 23 16:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | the republicans are fucking asholes | Apr 23 16:32 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: "opinions are like asswholes, everyone has one" | Apr 23 16:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ziomatrix: except what I stated was a scientifically proven fact | Apr 23 16:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On train coming home. I wonder how many times Microsoft advocates have qouted alleged market share in order to dismiss Ubuntu RC? | Apr 23 16:33 | |
| Diablo-D3 | the earth isnt the center of the universe, the earth is round, the earth orbits the sun, republicans are assholes | Apr 23 16:34 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: I didn't know human nature and emotions were studied so thoroughly. I disagree as I think there are plenty of jerk politicians to go around for all parties | Apr 23 16:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ziomatrix: that may not be true | Apr 23 16:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | a lot of people say there are jerk democrats | Apr 23 16:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | there arent | Apr 23 16:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're actually republicans | Apr 23 16:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | they may not even know they're republicans | Apr 23 16:35 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: the only ones that maybe not are ones which have very few constituents | Apr 23 16:35 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: conservative doesn't always = right wing | Apr 23 16:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, but it always = asshole | Apr 23 16:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | and since asshole = republican | Apr 23 16:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | all asshole politicians are republicans | Apr 23 16:35 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: thats like saying liberals = deutschbags | Apr 23 16:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | but liberals ARE douchebags. | Apr 23 16:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | The only place to be is in the fucking middle. | Apr 23 16:36 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: pragmatism | Apr 23 16:36 |
| Ziomatrix | or pragmatic I mean | Apr 23 16:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'm not against the federal government, nor am I for expanding it | Apr 23 16:36 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: thats why the US government is so cumbersome, its kind of designed that way to prevent a supermajority of a single opinion from pushing it too far | Apr 23 16:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'm merely for smarter government, not more or less. | Apr 23 16:37 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: well thats not going to happen until smarter people run for office and voters actually vote depending on that merit | Apr 23 16:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | Like, if a bill came up in Congress that would double the budget for, say, the FDA, or the Department of Agriculture, or the federal DOT shit, I'd be for it. | Apr 23 16:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know, SHIT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO KEEP THE COUNTRY FUNCTIONING | Apr 23 16:38 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wall Stret threatens to "abandon" Obama because he dares to punish them http://ur1.ca/wo9d | Apr 23 16:38 | |
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| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: I thought we need FannyMac | Apr 23 16:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | we dont. | Apr 23 16:38 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: we need Homeland Security | Apr 23 16:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | we dont. | Apr 23 16:38 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: fair enough, anyway I'm off | Apr 23 16:39 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Cartoon: "The recession is over, pass it on" http://ur1.ca/woap | Apr 23 16:39 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wall Street threatens to "abandon" Obama because he dares to punish them http://ur1.ca/wo9d | Apr 23 16:43 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/12693838460 WTH? "RT @alexanderhanff preparing a criminal complaint against Canonical over privacy concerns raised by logging/publishing of online chatrooms" | Apr 23 16:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/12694210669 "RT @alexanderhanff all Ubuntu IRC Chatrooms are logged and those logs are published online. It is my belief this is in breach of RIPA >>thx" | Apr 23 16:55 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: German appeal court upholds #Microsoft #FAT patent - http://bit.ly/dqFJjN what are they *thinking*? #swpats #germany | Apr 23 16:58 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: German appeal court upholds Microsoft FAT patent - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 36.44 KB | Apr 23 16:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] It seems an "intellectual property" court has been created in Portugal. Looking for real information, cautionary tale about UPLS... | Apr 23 16:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Bleedin' nora, I nearly forgot to say morning to you lovely people. Morning! | Apr 23 17:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] New #shotofjaq - Opening Up Hollywood - http://is.gd/bF35S - we took on the big guns with software, so surely we can with movies, right? | Apr 23 17:08 | |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: http://gawker.com/5520933/wikileaks-claims-facebook-deleted-their-fan-page-because-they-promote-illegal-acts | Apr 23 17:09 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Wikileaks Claims Facebook Deleted Their Fan Page Because They "Promote Illegal Acts" - Facebook - Gawker .::. Size~: 72.44 KB | Apr 23 17:09 |
| schestowitz | another reason to hate faceK00K | Apr 23 17:09 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Yeah. I really do hate facebook. But it's just that sometimes I need to send some messages to a few friends, and I can't find anywhere other than facebook, unfortunately. | Apr 23 17:11 |
| Omar87 | But yeah, I really hate facebook, it even opposes ODF! | Apr 23 17:12 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Apr 23 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | Hi jono | Apr 23 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: that's why they exist... peer pressure | Apr 23 17:18 |
| schestowitz | The whole thing is a multi-player peer pressure game.. one pressures another in a chain until they catalogue people's conversations, entire life, friends, etc | Apr 23 17:19 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, yeah. Peer pressure is a really bad dilemma. | Apr 23 17:19 |
| schestowitz | And they do a lot to help the patent trolls of Microsoft (and Microsodt) | Apr 23 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Mark is a friend of Ozzie | Apr 23 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: reject the friend or reject Facebook | Apr 23 17:20 |
| Omar87 | Ozzie? Ozzie Osbourn? :D | Apr 23 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Reject the file from a colleague to reject office | Apr 23 17:20 |
| schestowitz | and on it goes | Apr 23 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Proprietary Software comes between people in society | Apr 23 17:20 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that's correct. | Apr 23 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: Ray Ozzie (MSFT) | Apr 23 17:21 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, lol. I know. Just kidding. :P | Apr 23 17:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/04/0422mosaic-web-browser | Apr 23 17:21 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, by the way, another decent mono-free Ubuntu-based distro is Crunchbang. It's awesome. | Apr 23 17:22 |
| Omar87 | Openbox looks pretty cool! | Apr 23 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Hehe; http://broadstuff.com/archives/2179-nickcleggsfault.html | Apr 23 17:27 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez , @_goblin likes Crunchbang too | Apr 23 17:28 | |
| schestowitz | gr.. | Apr 23 17:43 |
| schestowitz | "@glynmoody it's not a US trend for billionaires to give big fortunes; philanthrocapitalism a la Rockefeller is not charity" | Apr 23 17:43 |
| schestowitz | I'm tired of the old illusion | Apr 23 17:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/marketforceslive/2010/apr/22/armholdings-marketforces | Apr 23 17:45 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ARM boss pours cold water on Apple bid rumours after shares soar |Business |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 95.49 KB | Apr 23 17:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am ready for the weekend....been a loooong week... | Apr 23 17:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Watching Simon Schama progamme "What is an American" Usonian attitudes to immigration over the last couple of centuries, interesting. | Apr 23 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://slashdot.org/submission/1222248/Microsoft-gets-its-FAT-Patent-back-in-Germany | Apr 23 18:00 |
| schestowitz | /. down? | Apr 23 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Yeah, !Crunchbang is excellent! You should try it! :-) "http://identi.ca/conversation/29617611#notice-29688729 | Apr 23 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: set up identica such that it sends a copy t be picked up | Apr 23 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Some people won't come to GNU without some games, yet there are those who don't want steam....... .. "@schestowitz isn't this just one more drm-ridden media platform? would you be this excited about silverlight?" http://identi.ca/conversation/29573991#notice-29689782 | Apr 23 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | Mixed feelings about this, what do you Think Omar87? | Apr 23 18:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Lotfi Raissi, who was wrongly accused of training the 9/11 hijackers, is to get compensation. | Apr 23 18:11 | |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, which one exactly? | Apr 23 18:13 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, how do I do that? (set up identica such that it sends a copy t be picked up) | Apr 23 18:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Want to know what your election candidates think? Be part of the movement that's finding out. http://is.gd/bF7y7 #opensource | Apr 23 18:20 | |
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| scientes_ | how do i edit the source directly in lyx | Apr 23 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/29621363#notice-29694752 "@schestowitz i see your point. it really sucks though, that we have one more drm platform. drm is even worse than simply non-free." | Apr 23 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | Linux with DRM | Apr 23 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: how do you post to both places? | Apr 23 18:44 |
| schestowitz | I mean, it didn't pick up your response to me. Oh, wait, I know why...... | Apr 23 18:44 |
| schestowitz | There's no workaround for it | Apr 23 18:44 |
| schestowitz | scientes_: close lyx | Apr 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | open the file in a text editor | Apr 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Apr 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | I did this before.... but if you want to type in tex (not same as .lyx), then insert /ERT | Apr 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | CTRL+L | Apr 23 18:46 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I usually have my identi.ca pointing my twitter, so that whatever I post on identi,ca goes directly to twitter too. The weird thing is, not even that is happening for some reason. | Apr 23 18:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Have we got a cracking post coming....Someone who doesn't seem to know that Wordpress records your IP when you comment. #mvp #microsoft | Apr 23 18:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] All I will say for now........"Oops he did it again" #mvp #microsoft www.openbytes.wordpress.com | Apr 23 18:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Testing, testing! 1,2,3.. | Apr 23 18:51 | |
| Omar87 | Okay! Now it works. :) | Apr 23 18:51 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and leave you with food for thought (in a cryptic way) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d7-2wooB9g keep an eye on Openbytes! | Apr 23 18:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] http://reddragdiva.co.uk was broken (file permissions problem) but is now fixed. Cheers to @redcountess for alert. | Apr 23 18:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] eLive is Linux ransomware: pay money, or *shill for them*, or your system won't work. http://is.gd/bFaqa What a great idea. | Apr 23 19:03 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: When must you shill for Linux? A rather disturbing idea. « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 117.41 KB | Apr 23 19:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @skkeeper: Doing some PyGTK coding... I think I'm closer to understand how it works, all thanks to Acire. Kudos to @jonobacon | Apr 23 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/29625148#notice-29696800 "@schestowitz their page about their drm is very interesting http://keyserver.linuxgamepublishing.com/about.php" | Apr 23 19:08 |
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| schestowitz | @schestowitz their page about their drm is very interesting http://keyserver.linuxgamepublishing.com/about.php | Apr 23 19:08 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Linux Game Publishing .::. Size~: 14.37 KB | Apr 23 19:08 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz their page about their drm is very interesting http://keyserver.linuxgamepublishing.com/about.php | Apr 23 19:08 |
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| schestowitz | Oops, sorry........ | Apr 23 19:08 |
| schestowitz | at least LGP says "copying" and not "theft" or "piracy" | Apr 23 19:09 |
| _goblin | roy...just wait until this evening. | Apr 23 19:09 |
| _goblin | have I got a cracking expose to reveal | Apr 23 19:09 |
| schestowitz | What happens thuis event? | Apr 23 19:09 |
| schestowitz | *this evening? | Apr 23 19:09 |
| schestowitz | da costa? | Apr 23 19:09 |
| _goblin | no comment | Apr 23 19:09 |
| schestowitz | We mentioned him earlier | Apr 23 19:09 |
| _goblin | Ive a feeling you will be mentioning him again later. | Apr 23 19:09 |
| _goblin | Ive finally caught him in the act. | Apr 23 19:10 |
| schestowitz | acta? | Apr 23 19:10 |
| _goblin | Concrete evidence.....to rights and all that. | Apr 23 19:10 |
| _goblin | "Oops he did it again" | Apr 23 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Did he paste the MS PR spin on the results in 20 site's comments? | Apr 23 19:10 |
| _goblin | lol.... | Apr 23 19:11 |
| schestowitz | With 20 nyms? | Apr 23 19:11 |
| _goblin | not even close..... | Apr 23 19:11 |
| _goblin | (see what Im doing....building up the hype) | Apr 23 19:11 |
| _goblin | its good. | Apr 23 19:11 |
| _goblin | its that good. | Apr 23 19:11 |
| *WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulf | Apr 23 19:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100420/1042189110.shtml | Apr 23 19:17 |
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| scientes_ | schestowitz, yes, that worked | Apr 23 19:32 |
| scientes_ | although the preview source is differnt from the file | Apr 23 19:32 |
| scientes_ | the latex source is much nicer and cleaner, would be nice if you could edit that directly | Apr 23 19:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @gabe "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me dozens of times, I'm an Apple customer." #q | Apr 23 19:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @jperlow: @jonobacon Frugal Tech: Matt Zimmerman, CTO, Canonical (Ubuntu) http://bit.ly/bHvYWE | Apr 23 19:37 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Frugal Tech Show: Matt Zimmerman, CTO of Canonical (Ubuntu Linux) | Tech Broiler | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 90.4 KB | Apr 23 19:37 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: schestowitz http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/ubuntu-ditching-notification-area.html | Apr 23 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ubuntu ditching notification area, awesome things to come | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 82.9 KB | Apr 23 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | and jono probably already knows | Apr 23 19:41 |
| schestowitz | http://reason.com/archives/2010/04/21/getting-away-with-poker | Apr 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | scientes_: what for? | Apr 23 19:43 |
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| schestowitz | You have preamble parts in LyX GUI | Apr 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: oldish | Apr 23 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep | Apr 23 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | read it this morning or last night | Apr 23 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | well started to | Apr 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | jono is moving to Xandros | Apr 23 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | still not finnished the comments, then actsual Ubuntu link later | Apr 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | He needed a KDE desktop with Microsoft licence :o) | Apr 23 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | ah ha | Apr 23 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I thought you were joking | Apr 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/2010/04/junk-cyber-crim.html | Apr 23 19:46 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Security FUD In Action: Not Windows' Fault, Nope, Not at All - Linux Today Blog .::. Size~: 81.83 KB | Apr 23 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes already been on that | Apr 23 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | and read it and yes good read | Apr 23 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | ,but again | Apr 23 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | she is preaching to the choir as the saying goes | Apr 23 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | someone else was like to me before, I don't like Tuxchick, I was like why? | Apr 23 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | he was like, she always goes on about stuff, that we already know about | Apr 23 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I think that link could be used with non technical people though, but may have to explain a little bit about some of the geek stuff as well. at the same time, or it's likely to be a failure | Apr 23 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh yeah and people can make Ubuntu look very much like Windows 7 if they want to, there's a blog entry about that on that Ubuntu fan boy and girls, site that I just linked to | Apr 23 19:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] By the way, same thing applies for Microsoft customers. RT @gabe ["Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, I'm an Apple customer."] | Apr 23 19:53 | |
| scientes_ | "Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by Free software" | Apr 23 19:56 |
| scientes_ | I like it | Apr 23 19:56 |
| scientes_ | best yet | Apr 23 19:56 |
| scientes_ | ofensive | Apr 23 19:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] US Treasury unveils new $100 note http://ur1.ca/wpbw to show everyone how good the economy is !!1 | Apr 23 19:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Mum had her cable modem delivered today. So off to set that up for her. Number one priority is making sure I can remotely get into her pc! | Apr 23 19:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Mum also got a wifi access point in the deal, which means I can use her wifi when I'm over there too. #mumbuntu | Apr 23 19:57 | |
| schestowitz | scientes_: offensive? | Apr 23 19:59 |
| scientes_ | not bad | Apr 23 19:59 |
| scientes_ | just on the offensive | Apr 23 19:59 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Apr 23 20:00 |
| scientes_ | those threatened, instead of "our enemies" | Apr 23 20:00 |
| scientes_ | as it was | Apr 23 20:00 |
| scientes_ | shows that they are on defensive | Apr 23 20:00 |
| scientes_ | as they are | Apr 23 20:00 |
| schestowitz | it said adversaries | Apr 23 20:01 |
| satipera | schestowitz, I did give serious thought to writing that piece about assessing how the USA blockade against Cuba has affected their ICT infrastructure, but came to the decision that I lacked technical knowledge and it would end up as an essentially political piece so decided not to go ahead with it. It did however get me to thinking that perhaps you should ask for articles from readers written specifically for TR rather than linking to other site | Apr 23 20:01 |
| satipera | s and obviously your own output | Apr 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | _goblin didn't like it | Apr 23 20:01 |
| _goblin | nope | Apr 23 20:02 |
| schestowitz | satipera: thanks, you can almost post in the site though | Apr 23 20:02 |
| _goblin | I don;t like the new title either! | Apr 23 20:02 |
| _goblin | Freedom-Hostile suggests paranoia | Apr 23 20:02 |
| _goblin | tin hats | Apr 23 20:02 |
| _goblin | shaking fist at the invisible aliens in the sky | Apr 23 20:03 |
| _goblin | IMHO | Apr 23 20:03 |
| scientes_ | change it to "Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by Free software" here too | Apr 23 20:03 |
| _goblin | how about "Watching and reporting of dubious practices by companies who see free software as a threat to their future" | Apr 23 20:03 |
| scientes_ | "Watching and reporting of dubious practices by companies with obsolete business models" | Apr 23 20:04 |
| satipera | Yes I know that, just thought there might be the demand for longer one off articles that readers could contribute for consideration | Apr 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/29627793#notice-29699888 "@schestowitz I'm okay with someone calling it "theft" from their point of view. Not "piracy" unless it involves raping and pilaging." | Apr 23 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | _goblin might have an opinion | Apr 23 20:06 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: you call that "theft"? | Apr 23 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Digital copies? | Apr 23 20:06 |
| schestowitz | [20:03] <_goblin> shaking fist at the invisible aliens in the sky | Apr 23 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I take offence in that | Apr 23 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I'm among the skeptics who are rather intolerant of BS 'science' and frauds | Apr 23 20:06 |
| schestowitz | In fact, I have some arguments over it with people who are close, because of my insistence that truth should be taught, not myths that "make you feel good" | Apr 23 20:07 |
| schestowitz | scientes_: that last one was good | Apr 23 20:07 |
| schestowitz | But it's not about business | Apr 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | I can forsee RMS frowning at the suggestion that software is about business, not society | Apr 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | It implies that society of run by business (which it isn't in many countries around the world) | Apr 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | satipera: yes, I posted 2 Cuba links last night | Apr 23 20:09 |
| _goblin | "Shaking fist at invisible aliens" You take offence? How....it goes with the tin-hat idea.....people who are paranoid. | Apr 23 20:09 |
| _goblin | seeing conspiracy where there is none..... | Apr 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | It's not paranoia | Apr 23 20:09 |
| _goblin | its not? | Apr 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | I know about the alien enthusiasts | Apr 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | It's not paranoia | Apr 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | it's more like enthusiasm to them | Apr 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | They believe in it cause they want to | Apr 23 20:09 |
| satipera | schestowitz, yes that prompted me to talk to you about it now | Apr 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | They are rarely actually afraid of being attacked | Apr 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Some fancy the whole Armagedon idea | Apr 23 20:09 |
| _goblin | Alien enthusiasts? | Apr 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Apr 23 20:10 |
| _goblin | that doesn't suggest paranoia that suggests fantasy | Apr 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Or "proponents" | Apr 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Not "belivers" | Apr 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | I try not to use words like "believers"a nd "debniers" | Apr 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | I learned that it's wrong to use them | Apr 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Weasel words | Apr 23 20:10 |
| _goblin | but come on.....alien enthusiasts? good god......is this a proponent or merely wishful thinking? | Apr 23 20:11 |
| _goblin | aliens that always seem to crash in the USA | Apr 23 20:11 |
| _goblin | aliens that don't want to make global contact yet fly around lit up like an xmas tree | Apr 23 20:12 |
| _goblin | aliens that draw pictures in the corn | Apr 23 20:12 |
| _goblin | but worse of all | Apr 23 20:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | aliens that anal probe | Apr 23 20:12 |
| satipera | goblin ha ha corn circles that is my neck of the woods | Apr 23 20:12 |
| _goblin | aliens with the tech of interstella travel that come far across the universe with tech far in advance of our own, only to crash when they get to earth | Apr 23 20:12 |
| _goblin | that will ruin your insurances no claims bonus | Apr 23 20:13 |
| satipera | my mates sister runs some sort of crop circles group :) | Apr 23 20:13 |
| _goblin | UFO Insurance policy "Where did the accident happen?" Alien: "5 light years away" | Apr 23 20:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | are those imperial or metric light years? | Apr 23 20:14 |
| _goblin | try getting a tow truck to take you back to Alpha centauri | Apr 23 20:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | dohohohoho | Apr 23 20:14 |
| _goblin | diablo-d3: I think they would be metric | Apr 23 20:14 |
| _goblin | diablo-d3: RE: Anal probe.....I believe Ballmers patented that idea. | Apr 23 20:16 |
| _goblin | diablo-d3: its a new peripheral of the 360 | Apr 23 20:16 |
| _goblin | they've shafted you with the 360 over the red rings of death....now they shaft you again for a different sort of red ring | Apr 23 20:17 |
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| Diablo-D3 | oy. | Apr 23 20:17 |
| Ziomatrix | this probably will make your press if it hasn't already: | Apr 23 20:17 |
| Ziomatrix | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/German-appeal-court-upholds-Microsoft-FAT-patent-985550.html | Apr 23 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: German appeal court upholds Microsoft FAT patent - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 36.41 KB | Apr 23 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | that story doesnt sound legit | Apr 23 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | the EU doesnt support software patents | Apr 23 20:18 |
| Ziomatrix | Diablo-D3: what about this? http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&Art=pm&Datum=2010&Sort=3&nr=51702&anz=84&pos=0&Blank=1 | Apr 23 20:19 |
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| Ziomatrix | translation, Paragraph 1: "The X. Civil Division, the validity of the benefit of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA, granted European patent 618 540 confirmed. This property right concerns the apparently still relevant problem when programs that are able to work for reasons less storage capacity or limited processing power with relatively short file names to be used in computer systems that allow almost any length name to identi | Apr 23 20:20 |
| Ziomatrix | translation, Paragraph 2: The Federal Patent Court (2 Ni 2 / 2005 of 26 October 2006) had the doctrine in view of not regarded as inventive, that the ROCK RIDGE INTERCHANGE PROTOCOL had for the then overcome with CD-ROM relevant ISO 9660 - Standard, 8.3-limit. The Federal Court was unable to join because he - provide expert advice - the granted patent claims taken a different meaning than the Federal Patent Court. Accordingly, the pate | Apr 23 20:20 |
| Ziomatrix | If that doesn't sound like a concurred appeal in favor of MS, then I don't know what is. | Apr 23 20:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Asshole British tourists cause hotel to be sued for race discrimination by employee- http://bit.ly/aXXjx2 | Apr 23 20:22 | |
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| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | Apr 23 20:30 | |
| Ziomatrix | good, if the heads of Ritz Carlton want to stand up to obvious and outward racism then I applaud them. This should not be confused with being PC because even though the complaint was originally filed by a waiter it was up to the folks behind the policies of the hotel chain itself to make the choice and as a private business they have every right to mandate who is allowed so long as it doesn't discriminate against anyone on a broad basi | Apr 23 20:33 |
| Ziomatrix | There use to be a time when a hotel of that stature in that very same geographic location would not allow coloured clients | Apr 23 20:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Now that the Digital Economy act is law ... DO NOT secure your wifi. http://is.gd/bFg12 | Apr 23 20:36 | |
| Ziomatrix | In other words the hotel sent a clear message that they do not tolerate clients outrightly descriminating against any of their employees based on race, skin color, ethnicity nor religion. | Apr 23 20:36 |
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| _goblin | Right, its almost ready... | Apr 23 20:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Evolution's new foe: Spineless school administrators. http://is.gd/bFhr4 | Apr 23 21:01 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Evolutions New Foe: Timid School Administrators | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 103.36 KB | Apr 23 21:01 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Intel can't crank out chips fast enough due to artifical scarcity to drive up prices... #AMD wins again http://ur1.ca/wplx | Apr 23 21:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft MVP Andre Da Costa - "Oops he/she's done it again" ? http://tinyurl.com/29frcbk #microsoft #mvp #nymshifting #fail | Apr 23 21:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Today is a momentus day! My mum just sent her first email from her first computer! (to brother, sister and my wife) #mumbuntu | Apr 23 21:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Classic stuff.....one of my favorite tracks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXsh-OBQddc #metal #cof | Apr 23 21:55 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Cradle of Filth - From The Cradle To Enslave Live ( DVD ) .::. Size~: 92.79 KB | Apr 23 21:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just showed my mum Wikipedia. First thing she looked up was 'Kangaroo'! That's it, wont see her again for a while :) #mumbuntu | Apr 23 21:57 | |
| schestowitz | Would you believe that peopl falgged this for hate speech and YouTube complied by censorsing? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbrQI0r1B7w&annotation_id=annotation_569060&feature=iv | Apr 23 22:13 |
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| schestowitz | [20:12] <satipera> goblin ha ha corn circles that is my neck of the woods | Apr 23 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Hoaxers made them and admitted it | Apr 23 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Then, the alien fans said that they had lied | Apr 23 22:20 |
| schestowitz | That those 'admitting' to have faked it are "just part of the conspiracy" to hide it | Apr 23 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | But of course, aliens travel 100k light years to anally probe some species that can hardly reach its one moon that orbits one light second away | Apr 23 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The new clove little cigars are the exact same size and taste of the banned clove cigarettes | Apr 23 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | muahahahahahaaaaa!!!! | Apr 23 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | but you get 12 instead of 10 | Apr 23 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | and the price is the same | Apr 23 22:23 |
| schestowitz | You smoke again? | Apr 23 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | not much | Apr 23 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | couldn't find these for a while after the feds banned them | Apr 23 22:27 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Now they're trying to ban Menthol. | Apr 23 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | "Here, let's ban the only thing in your cigarette that DOESN'T kill you!" | Apr 23 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 23 22:30 |
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| MinceR | water? | Apr 23 22:31 |
| _goblin | apparently menthol cigarettes can make you sterile. | Apr 23 22:35 |
| _goblin | just thought I'd throw that one in. | Apr 23 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: Menthol is safe | Apr 23 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | safe as purified water | Apr 23 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | no health hazards in Menthol at all | Apr 23 22:36 |
| _goblin | Ive never liked menthol cigs anyway. | Apr 23 22:36 |
| _goblin | just something someone told me....maybe its an urban myth | Apr 23 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: Tobacco can lead to sterility among a legion of other things | Apr 23 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | all of which they are NOT looking to ban | Apr 23 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | (due to copious taxation) | Apr 23 22:37 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: _goblin http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/ubuntu-ditching-notification-area.html | Apr 23 22:37 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] It is a quarter-past-Iron-Maiden somewhere... | Apr 23 22:37 | |
| _goblin | tell me about it....pack of 20 cigs....£6.50 over here. | Apr 23 22:37 |
| tessier_ | Still too cheap. | Apr 23 22:37 |
| _goblin | whats that $12? | Apr 23 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: well you shoudn't smoke really anyway | Apr 23 22:38 |
| _goblin | youre probably right | Apr 23 22:38 |
| tessier_ | sebsebseb: I'm sure you are the first person to ever mention that to him. | Apr 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | UK£ 6.50 = 9.98465 U.S. dollars | Apr 23 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: and the goverment are unlikely to ban it for various reasons, including, the amount of addicts, but also how they make tax money on it | Apr 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | $9.98 could get you three packs of 20 here | Apr 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | even with the tax | Apr 23 22:38 |
| tessier_ | sebsebseb: That is why I am in favor of legalizing and taxing marijuana and potentially other drugs also. | Apr 23 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | four if you get the nasty ones made of floor sweepings | Apr 23 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | (my allegation) | Apr 23 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | tessier_: heh heh in a way | Apr 23 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Medicare will pay for smoking cessation classes. | Apr 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Medicare will not pay for dental work | Apr 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Medicare will pay 45% of mental health counseling | Apr 23 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Bowen Center can repossess the other 55% of my brain | Apr 23 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | muahahahahaa!!! | Apr 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | [22:35] <_goblin> apparently menthol cigarettes can make you sterile. | Apr 23 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Ster? Lie! | Apr 23 22:52 |
| schestowitz | ANyway, making many people sterile could save the planet's ecosystem | Apr 23 22:52 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 23 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Potassium Nitrate is what can make you unable to have an erection and they only put that in American cigarettes | Apr 23 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not working well enough because every smoker on welfare has 12 kids | Apr 23 22:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 23 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Why do they put it in? Keeps it burning even if you aren't smoking it. | Apr 23 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | They sell you more cigarettes. | Apr 23 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | They burn down the occasional house and don't get sued. | Apr 23 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 23 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Why isn't it working? Welfare covers Viagra! | Apr 23 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 23 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | they should add more potassium nitrate and stop covering Viagra | Apr 23 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | "I can't get my **** up and have more welfare babies" | Apr 23 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Tough shit Cleetus, welfare rolls are full. | Apr 23 22:56 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Have you seen andre's response to my post? | Apr 23 22:56 |
| *DaemonFC stops daydreaming about world that makes sense | Apr 23 22:57 | |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 23 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | "20 Cleetus Jr.'s per family" policy expired just before you got here. Tough break pal... | Apr 23 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | "While we're at it, you need to shave off that mullet or declare it for taxation purposes!" | Apr 23 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 23 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | That's how they should fund healthcare reform | Apr 23 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | mullet tax | Apr 23 22:59 |
| MinceR | :D | Apr 23 22:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] A MVP nymshifter on my blog gets caught out and its my fault for not exposing another on the grounds of an allegation with no evidence? #mvp | Apr 23 23:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Have I just been hit with a stupid stick or does that make no sense? So its ok to nymshift because you allege others do it? #mvp #microsoft | Apr 23 23:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #McAfee and #Microsoft Cause Immeasurable Financial Damage http://ur1.ca/wq6k #windows #security #bug #ie8 | Apr 23 23:07 | |
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| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | Apr 23 23:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] A review of my team's progress in Lucid and how I managed the cycle's various projects - http://is.gd/bFoAY #ubuntu #community | Apr 23 23:14 | |
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| MinceR | lack of clue alert >> http://design.canonical.com/2010/04/notification-area/ | Apr 23 23:24 |
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| oiaohm | http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2010/04/adobe_air_on_the_android_platf.html Its offical adobe now working on android. | Apr 23 23:25 |
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| MinceR | adobe should be working on dying instead | Apr 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | preferably taking crApple with themselves | Apr 23 23:25 |
| oiaohm | Remember winning a war sometimes means doing temp deals with the devil. | Apr 23 23:26 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of developers out there who use Adobe stuff so we cannot disreguard them at this time. | Apr 23 23:27 |
| MinceR | only if you choose to do so | Apr 23 23:27 |
| MinceR | there are a lot of people with no clue, and that needs to change eventually | Apr 23 23:27 |
| oiaohm | Its like steam being ported to linux and the presure for it. | Apr 23 23:28 |
| oiaohm | I really would prefer more open source games. But hey I cannot always have what I want. | Apr 23 23:28 |
| MinceR | i think porting proprietary games to gnu/linux is a good thing | Apr 23 23:29 |
| MinceR | if only they could also get rid of the DRM | Apr 23 23:29 |
| oiaohm | Adobe is in the same class. Lot of people use flash and other items at this stage. | Apr 23 23:29 |
| oiaohm | Time is not exactly right to kill Adobe quickly. | Apr 23 23:30 |
| oiaohm | but Adobe can assist us to get on top of Apple. | Apr 23 23:30 |
| oiaohm | Temp deal with devil. MinceR | Apr 23 23:30 |
| oiaohm | You would argree Apple being hardware is a more hostile devil than adobe. | Apr 23 23:31 |
| MinceR | i don't know adobe's significance. | Apr 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | i know some poor people are held hostage by photoshop | Apr 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | but i don't know how many people waste their time with Trash and related stuff | Apr 23 23:32 |
| oiaohm | Software like photoshop we can attempt to use other software to run ie wine. | Apr 23 23:33 |
| schestowitz | "Read about this in the Dutch media. Several hospitals got into more or less trouble because of it." http://identi.ca/conversation/29650501#notice-29722452 Many major UK hospitals are being hit by Conficker et al, since 2008 | Apr 23 23:34 |
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| oiaohm | Apple starts doing hardware drm that works we have true trouble. MinceR | Apr 23 23:34 |
| oiaohm | Basically scale of devils MinceR. Apple way ahead. | Apr 23 23:35 |
| MinceR | http://verydemotivational.com/2010/03/15/demotivational-posters-smoking/ | Apr 23 23:37 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] OMG Andre da Costa is making a total jackass out of himself again on http://openbytes.wordpress.com/ | Apr 23 23:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] MVP: a labile puppet of the criminal organisation known as Microsoft and The Vole! | Apr 23 23:41 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-somali-pirates-20100424,0,1310857.story | Apr 23 23:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Don't download music, they'll find you! | Apr 23 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 23 23:42 |
| tessier_ | DaemonFC: What is funny to me is that I bet those Somali's never imagined they would somehow wind up in the US. | Apr 23 23:45 |
| tessier_ | Down the road to the next village over is a long way for those guys. | Apr 23 23:45 |
| tessier_ | Going out to sea was quite an adventure for them. And now this. It's like you or me somehow ending up on Mars. | Apr 23 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | tessier_: One of our prisons is probably better than they would have it anywhere in Somalia | Apr 23 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | that's my guess | Apr 23 23:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Mono is Technically Inferior for Development and Why #Microsoft Keeps Promoting It http://ur1.ca/wqee | Apr 23 23:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | tessier_: It's like Mexicans coming here to commit crimes because a US prison is better than where they were at | Apr 23 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | only Somalia is way worse than Mexico | Apr 23 23:48 |
| tessier_ | Although it looks like those guys are fairly bad off. One got a leg amputated even. Not sure they would consider that worth it, who knows. | Apr 23 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | you can't really threaten to punish someone when your punishment is like hitting the jackpot to them | Apr 23 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | right? | Apr 23 23:48 |
| tessier_ | Not sure. | Apr 23 23:48 |
| tessier_ | I don't have experience of either prison or starving and living in squalor to compare with. | Apr 23 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | well, if they didn't want to come here, they wouldn't have opened up on a US frigate | Apr 23 23:49 |
| tessier_ | I seriously doubt they thought that far ahead. | Apr 23 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | there's no way they were equipped for that fight | Apr 23 23:49 |
| tessier_ | They were probably ignorant peasants who don't know the difference. | Apr 23 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | I think they just wanted to give us grounds to take them back to the US | Apr 23 23:49 |
| tessier_ | Having never seen a US Navy ship before do you think they would recognize this as military and not cargo when there are no obvious guns sticking out of it? http://www.armybase.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/guided-missile-frigate-uss-simpson-ffg-56.jpghttp://www.armybase.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/guided-missile-frigate-uss-simpson-ffg-56.jpg | Apr 23 23:50 |
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| DaemonFC | tessier_: What logical reason would you have to pick a fight with a ship that's 100 times larger and armed to the teeth? | Apr 23 23:50 |
| tessier_ | oops, double pasted. | Apr 23 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 23 23:50 |
| tessier_ | DaemonFC: How would they know it was armed? | Apr 23 23:50 |
| tessier_ | These guys have zero education. | Apr 23 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | well, the term "warship" kind of suggests that they are armed | Apr 23 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | so I would assume | Apr 23 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 23 23:51 |
| tessier_ | It doesn't have "WARSHIP" painted across the side in their language. | Apr 23 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | they must be crazy or stupid to pick a fight with that | Apr 23 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | that's all I'm saying | Apr 23 23:51 |
| tessier_ | Ignorant | Apr 23 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | maybe both | Apr 23 23:51 |
| tessier_ | They are nothing like us. | Apr 23 23:52 |
| tessier_ | Those guys have never touched a keyboard their whole life. | Apr 23 23:52 |
| tessier_ | Inconceivable to you and I. | Apr 23 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | tessier_: I'm all for bringing back the "merchant marine" system | Apr 23 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | arm the US-flagged cargo ships going through that area | Apr 23 23:53 |
| tessier_ | I agree with that. | Apr 23 23:53 |
| MinceR | why only the us-flagged ones? | Apr 23 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Because we have the authority to do that :) | Apr 23 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | other nations could as well obviously | Apr 23 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's just a decision each nation would have to make themselves | Apr 23 23:54 |
| MinceR | or rather, each country :> | Apr 23 23:54 |
| MinceR | or each sovereign state | Apr 23 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say arming them is cheaper than having the ship hijacked and ransomed | Apr 23 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | hell, give them some deck guns | Apr 23 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | that would wake the pirates up | Apr 23 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 23 23:55 |
| oiaohm | Lot of cases it does not have to be deck guns. | Apr 23 23:55 |
| oiaohm | One of the video of counters was dead simple old cassle wall protection method. | Apr 23 23:56 |
| MinceR | railguns! | Apr 23 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Ie pirate pulled up besided cargo ship and finds self with a few live hand grandes and a fire bomb. | Apr 23 23:57 |
| tessier_ | There are problems with armed ships entering foreign ports. | Apr 23 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Not practical | Apr 23 23:57 |
| tessier_ | It is also easier to sue commercial companies operating armed ships which might end up killing someone. | Apr 23 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | high cost to maintain | Apr 23 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Fire bomb destracted the pirates long enough for hand grandes todo there job. | Apr 23 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | the pirates aren't sophisticated | Apr 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | war is expensive. :> | Apr 23 23:57 |
| tessier_ | The insurance companies, so far, prefer to deal with the losses than recommend their clients be armed. | Apr 23 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Most pirates are in small boats. | Apr 23 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Perfect size for a anti personal device to sink. | Apr 23 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | World War II era deck guns would fend them off easily | Apr 23 23:58 |
| tessier_ | Firehoses (water) seem to be the best weapon IF you know they are there. But that is the trick. | Apr 23 23:58 |
| tessier_ | How do you detect a tiny outboard motor powered rubber raft approaching the side of your huge ship in the middle of the night? | Apr 23 23:58 |
| oiaohm | Firehoses armered would be enough as well. | Apr 23 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | tessier_: Arming the crew themselves would also be a good idea | Apr 23 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | in case the pirates did manage to sneak onboard | Apr 23 23:58 |
| oiaohm | Problem with deck guns if the ship gets taken how are you going to get it back. | Apr 23 23:59 |
| tessier_ | DaemonFC: These guys are ship crew not soldiers. They don't know squat about weapons. | Apr 23 23:59 |
| tessier_ | Deck guns on a container ship would have to be many and spread all around the sides of the ship. | Apr 23 23:59 |
| tessier_ | You would need at least 4 if not more. These ships are huge. | Apr 23 23:59 |
| oiaohm | And if a pirate gets a ship with deck guns they can use it to take others. | Apr 23 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | tessier_: It takes all of an hour to know everything you need to know with most any standard issue pistol | Apr 23 23:59 |
| oiaohm | Water guns are harmless against other big ships. | Apr 23 23:59 |
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