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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #GNU #Linux is a Preferable Platform for #FreeSoftware Programs http://ur1.ca/xhn9 http://ur1.ca/xhnaApr 28 00:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Chris Dixon: Tradeoff Between Open and Closed « The-Source.com .::. Size~: 34.42 KBApr 28 00:04
TechrightsBotTitle:   Open vs. Closed: What Does Open Really Mean? .::. Size~: 90.81 KBApr 28 00:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Hobbyists OS | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/3x2rhhuApr 28 00:07
TechrightsBotTitle: The Hobbyists OS | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 13.09 KBApr 28 00:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Microsoft 's Hatred of #GNU #Linux Evolved Over the Years (to Become Attacks) http://ur1.ca/xhoaApr 28 00:08
TechrightsBotTitle: We expose Steve Ballmer's great big bloomers - Our top Ballmer disasters | TechEye - All the technology news unfit for print .::. Size~: 32.05 KBApr 28 00:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Enterprise" #GNU #Linux and Why it Can Also be Free (Gratis) http://ur1.ca/xhoj #centos works great!Apr 28 00:10
TechrightsBotTitle: Enterprise Linux — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 74.51 KBApr 28 00:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Desktop Must Stand on Its Own Merits, Not Imitate http://ur1.ca/xhop also see http://ur1.ca/xhoqApr 28 00:11
TechrightsBotTitle: What SHOULD Linux be? | Linux and Open Source | TechRepublic.com .::. Size~: 91.92 KBApr 28 00:11
TechrightsBotTitle: The adoption and use of Linux in Africa- A detailed African perspective | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 99.19 KBApr 28 00:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ZDNet Writer Dumps #Vista7 for #GNU #Linux http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=12768 thumbs up to @jperlowApr 28 00:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Survey Measures Market Share Based on Money http://bit.ly/cLWCUI #zdnet #fudApr 28 00:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Windows Malware: The final straw that broke the penguin's back | Tech Broiler | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 309.79 KBApr 28 00:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Report: Linux adoption highest among APAC SMBs - Software - News .::. Size~: 48.04 KBApr 28 00:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #DVD Increasingly a Non-issue for #GNU #Linux Users http://www.itworld.com/node/105736Apr 28 00:17
TechrightsBotTitle: Legalizing Linux DVD Playback: Why Bother? | ITworld .::. Size~: 80.32 KBApr 28 00:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kernel Space ( #Linux ) to Become More Unified http://blogs.computerworld.com/16000/android_and_linux_are_growing_back_together #androidApr 28 00:19
TechrightsBotTitle: Android and Linux are growing back together - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 64.84 KBApr 28 00:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Finally: #Canada courts tiring of Tory evasion on #Afghan #torture docs http://thestar.com/news/canada/afghanmission/article/801104 #cdnpoliApr 28 00:23
TechrightsBotTitle: Tories have two weeks to release Afghan files - thestar.com .::. Size~: 80.71 KBApr 28 00:23
schestowitzhttp://skeptoid.com/episodes/4008Apr 28 00:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Nocturnal Assaults: Aliens in the Dark .::. Size~: 31.75 KBApr 28 00:26
schestowitzSleep paralysis is fascinatingApr 28 00:26
schestowitzI haven't managed to replicate it for yearsApr 28 00:26
schestowitzThis is a good articleApr 28 00:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Numbers in - boobs don't cause earthquakes - safe to continue showing cleavage http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/801116 #boobquakeApr 28 00:27
TechrightsBotTitle:  .::. Size~: 31.73 KBApr 28 00:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Developers Receive Free #Graphics Cards from NVIDIA, New #Linux Driver Released http://ur1.ca/xht7 http://ur1.ca/xht8Apr 28 00:31
TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] Free NVIDIA Fermi Cards To Open-Source Developers .::. Size~: 17.71 KBApr 28 00:31
TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] NVIDIA 195.36.24 Linux Driver Released .::. Size~: 16.04 KBApr 28 00:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proprietary #VMware Software Runs #GNU #Linux Decently http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/vmware-workstation.htmlApr 28 00:33
TechrightsBotTitle:       VMware Workstation in Linux - Fantastic!     .::. Size~: 15.04 KBApr 28 00:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Valve Definitely Coming to GNU/Linux, More Games Coming http://ur1.ca/xhif http://ur1.ca/xhtk http://ur1.ca/xhtmApr 28 00:34
TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] Yes, More Steam & Source Engine Linux Details .::. Size~: 18.23 KBApr 28 00:34
TechrightsBotTitle:       Enemy Territory Quake Wars - OMG!     .::. Size~: 14.93 KBApr 28 00:34
TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] Alien Arena 2010 Coming "In A Few Weeks" .::. Size~: 16.64 KBApr 28 00:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LXDE Gets a Good Word/Assessment for Critics, Users http://ur1.ca/xhtw http://ur1.ca/xhtxApr 28 00:35
TechrightsBotTitle: An Eye-Opening Experience « The Linux Critic .::. Size~: 39.65 KBApr 28 00:35
TechrightsBotTitle: A Doctor`s Linux Blog: Good and Bads of LXDE .::. Size~: 148.18 KBApr 28 00:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Avatar (Film) Created on #KDE #GNU #Linux Desktops http://ur1.ca/xhu4 also nice: http://ur1.ca/xhu5Apr 28 00:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Listing of Themes for #GNOME Desktop, GNOME Shell Tricks http://ur1.ca/xhum http://ur1.ca/xhuoApr 28 00:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Cool Kubuntu Users | kdedevelopers.org .::. Size~: 20.5 KBApr 28 00:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Notifications in Kubuntu 10.04 « Ulysses' Blog .::. Size~: 20.37 KBApr 28 00:38
TechrightsBotTitle: The Linux Box .::. Size~: 35.16 KBApr 28 00:39
TechrightsBotTitle: More cool gnome-shell tips and tricks .::. Size~: 30.04 KBApr 28 00:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sabayon #GNU #Linux Looking to Recruit http://v00d00.net/sabayon-nightly-builds-installer-recruitment #gentoApr 28 00:40
TechrightsBotTitle: Sabayon  Nightly Builds, Installer & Recruitment | v00d00.net .::. Size~: 33.47 KBApr 28 00:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Chomsky: basic contours of an Israeli-Palestinian agreement are obvious-IF #Israel and US were serious http://bit.ly/9a6vgM #war #palestineApr 28 00:53
TechrightsBotTitle: A Middle East peace that could happen (but won't) - Israel - Salon.com .::. Size~: 141.2 KBApr 28 00:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of #RHEL Clone Scientific #Linux , #RedHat Might Work with #HP http://ur1.ca/xhx3 http://ur1.ca/xhx4Apr 28 00:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 13 Coverage and FUDCon Preparations http://ur1.ca/xhxc http://ur1.ca/xhxd http://ur1.ca/xhxeApr 28 00:55
TechrightsBotTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 79.76 KBApr 28 00:55
TechrightsBotTitle: HP and Red Hat: Ganging Up On Sun? | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 45.8 KBApr 28 00:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux in Exile: A peek into Fedora 13beta .::. Size~: 88.48 KBApr 28 00:56
TechrightsBotTitle: The Grand Fallacy » FUDCon headed to the Southwest? .::. Size~: 48.61 KBApr 28 00:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux in Exile: Fedora 13 coming soon! .::. Size~: 73.6 KBApr 28 00:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Is #Blankfein *pretending* not to understand "conflict of interest", or is concept entirely new to him? Neither option reassuring. #fraudApr 28 00:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian Boasts Fleet of 1000+ Developers, A Look at 100% Free Debian, #gNewSense http://ur1.ca/xhxr http://ur1.ca/xhxsApr 28 00:57
TechrightsBotTitle: Raiden's Realm: gNewSense: Libre GNU/Linux OS .::. Size~: 32.98 KBApr 28 00:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Previews of #Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 http://ur1.ca/xhy6 http://ur1.ca/xhy8 http://ur1.ca/xhy9 http://ur1.ca/xhyaApr 28 01:01
TechrightsBotTitle: Ubuntu's Lucid Lynx: screenshots - Software - News .::. Size~: 89.87 KBApr 28 01:02
TechrightsBotTitle:    Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 on Sony Vaio UX  : Netbook Reviews .::. Size~: 43.35 KBApr 28 01:02
TechrightsBotTitle: LaserJock — Thoughts on Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 .::. Size~: 11.08 KBApr 28 01:02
TechrightsBotTitle: Joseph Brower » Ubuntu 10.04 Review .::. Size~: 21.6 KBApr 28 01:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the Linux-powered Nook and Other Linux (Compatible) Devices http://www.pcworld.com/article/194884/nook_the_good_the_subpar.htmlApr 28 01:02
TechrightsBotTitle: Nook Software Update: The Good, The Subpar - PCWorld .::. Size~: 73.53 KBApr 28 01:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Japanese Companies Wan to Target Both #Symbian and #Linux http://ur1.ca/xhyyApr 28 01:06
TechrightsBotTitle: Japanese Consortium Looking To New Mobile Platform For Symbian And Linux Smartphones .::. Size~: 30.62 KBApr 28 01:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux -based E-reader Becomes Hackable http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/04/alex_e-reader_rooted.htmlApr 28 01:18
TechrightsBotTitle: Alex e-reader rooted .::. Size~: 29.25 KBApr 28 01:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Derivative for Sub-notebooks is Reviewed http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3878761 #gnu #linuxApr 28 01:22
TechrightsBotTitle: EasyPeasy and the Challenges of Linux Netbook Design — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 69.24 KBApr 28 01:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell Chooses #Linux for New Line of Products http://ur1.ca/xi26 http://ur1.ca/xi27 http://ur1.ca/xi28Apr 28 01:23
TechrightsBotTitle: Dell Sparta and Athens leak .::. Size~: 29.83 KBApr 28 01:23
TechrightsBotTitle: New Dell leak shows Android-based Athens, Sparta smartbooks | Electronista .::. Size~: 60.92 KBApr 28 01:23
TechrightsBotTitle:   Dell may be working on convertible netbook tablet, ARM-based netbook .::. Size~: 27.75 KBApr 28 01:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another New #Tablet Runs #GNU #Linux http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/04/26/can-this-tri-boot-us-264-slate-tablet-kill-the-ipad-/Apr 28 01:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Can this tri-boot US$264 slate tablet kill the iPad? - Notebooks - Crave - CNET Asia .::. Size~: 37.15 KBApr 28 01:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ASUS is Bringing Out #Linux #Tablets http://ur1.ca/xi2q http://ur1.ca/xi2sApr 28 01:25
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Asus announces eee pad tablet - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 60.31 KBApr 28 01:25
TechrightsBotTitle: ASUS is working on an Eee Pad - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 32.96 KBApr 28 01:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Drupal Founder Explains That #FreeSoftware Makes Money http://ur1.ca/xcld http://ur1.ca/xf0n http://ur1.ca/xi2tApr 28 01:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Drupal founder, Dries Buytaert, on passion, believing, and the open source way | opensource.com .::. Size~: 42.75 KBApr 28 01:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Why Making Money from Free Software Matters - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.33 KBApr 28 01:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Just because it's free doesn't make it open source | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 73.38 KBApr 28 01:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Agence France Presse thinks posting a link on Twitter means they can steal your photo, and countersue if you complain http://j.mp/cG5vRNApr 28 01:37
TechrightsBotTitle:   News Wire Allegedly Steals Iconic Haiti Photo, Then Sues Photographer .::. Size~: 27.03 KBApr 28 01:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] What do they care? They're the Masters of the Universe. Accountability is so, I dunno, 18th Century?Apr 28 01:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Guergis overblown? 'Few ppl have less pull than the Status of Women minister in a #Harper govt' #bustyhookers #cdnpoli http://bit.ly/cfV4fWApr 28 01:58
TechrightsBotTitle: Just keep saying ‘cocaine and busty hookers’ - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 85.33 KBApr 28 01:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA "Criminal" Part Scrutinised http://ur1.ca/xi97 http://ur1.ca/xi99 http://ur1.ca/xi9a http://ur1.ca/xi9bApr 28 02:03
TechrightsBotTitle: Intellectual Property Watch  » Blog Archive   » Medicrime: Another Anti-Counterfeiting Convention Emerges In Europe .::. Size~: 50.95 KBApr 28 02:03
TechrightsBotTitle: Criminal provisions ACTA  « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 21.81 KBApr 28 02:04
TechrightsBotTitle: ACTA official draft release unveils criminal enforcement revolution « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 19.03 KBApr 28 02:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Notes on ACTA for a consumer perspective 2.0 ·  TACD IP Policy Committee .::. Size~: 61.69 KBApr 28 02:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Governments in Europe Receive Formal #FreeSoftware Procurement Guidance http://ur1.ca/xi9nApr 28 02:05
TechrightsBotTitle: EU Open Source Procurement Guidelines - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 74.19 KBApr 28 02:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenSolaris Doing OK Again Under #Oracle http://ur1.ca/xi9t http://ur1.ca/xi9uApr 28 02:07
TechrightsBotTitle: dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/blog » OpenSolaris back on track. .::. Size~: 17.18 KBApr 28 02:07
TechrightsBotTitle: OpenSolaris Forums : [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris build 134a ... .::. Size~: 49.64 KBApr 28 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeBSD 8.1 Gets Release Date; Other #BSD News http://ur1.ca/xi9w http://ur1.ca/xi9x http://ur1.ca/xi9yApr 28 02:08
TechrightsBotTitle: FreeBSD 8.1 Release Date: 9 July 2010 | FreeBSD - the unknown Giant .::. Size~: 35.84 KBApr 28 02:08
TechrightsBotTitle: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report .::. Size~: 71.03 KBApr 28 02:08
TechrightsBotTitle: Introducing MaheshaBSD | FreeBSD - the unknown Giant .::. Size~: 37.07 KBApr 28 02:09
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DaemonFChmmmm, other than the SilverBlight crap, I'd say I'm getting my money's worth out of Netflix :PApr 28 02:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] This Thursday on release day let's make #ubuntu a trending topic - http://is.gd/bKFPG - we can do this, folks. :-)Apr 28 02:27
TechrightsBotTitle:                   Lets Make Ubuntu a Trending Topic | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 24.59 KBApr 28 02:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Planning a donation to World Land Trust for @worldtapirday. You can help out, too! http://bit.ly/cRSovh #tapir #ecuadorApr 28 02:57
TechrightsBotTitle: World Tapir Day is fundraising for World Land Trust - JustGiving .::. Size~: 32.91 KBApr 28 02:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #rwnj: govt incompetent to run health care or post office, but 100% trustworthy when it comes to waging foreign slaughter&'nation building'?Apr 28 03:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #energy #WhatPartOfNONRenewableDontYouGetApr 28 03:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@ jweyrich C++ multi-dimensional analog literals // say whut?Apr 28 03:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jweyrich C++ multi-dimensional analog literals // say whut?Apr 28 03:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@MMFlint New @twitter contest! Ppl say Canadians pay outrageous #tax for that free health care //this is simply INCORRECT (I pay tax there)Apr 28 03:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreeGreece #energy #Oil Spill: Gulf Disaster "Growing by the Moment" http://tinyurl.com/2cadbhv Crist: 'this should give somebody pause'Apr 28 03:46
TechrightsBotTitle: t r u t h o u t | Oil Spill: Gulf of Mexico Disaster "Growing by the Moment" .::. Size~: 27.46 KBApr 28 03:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreeGreece "This sucker could go down" (but guess who is in the lifeboats?) http://tinyurl.com/27k9db2 Goldman Sachs #BlankfeinApr 28 03:59
TechrightsBotTitle: t r u t h o u t | A Still Moment  .::. Size~: 31.61 KBApr 28 03:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreeGreece http://tinyurl.com/27k9db2 'Great Depression will look like "The Philadelphia Story" compared to what we wake up to in 10yrs'Apr 28 04:00
TechrightsBotTitle: t r u t h o u t | A Still Moment  .::. Size~: 31.61 KBApr 28 04:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreeGreece http://tinyurl.com/27k9db2 'why buying CDS "insurance" against yr own bonds engineered to default is NOT insider trading?'Apr 28 04:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "Because that's the way we've always done things around here," is why.Apr 28 04:05
TechrightsBotTitle: t r u t h o u t | A Still Moment  .::. Size~: 31.61 KBApr 28 04:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Goldman Sachs. Traditional home-cooked books. #fraudApr 28 04:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@BoneKnightmare Woman fires gun in air to break up party! http://tinyurl.com/2w4uv9k //I don't get invited to these kind of parties eitherApr 28 04:06
TechrightsBotTitle: Police: Woman fires gun in air to break up party - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 128.98 KBApr 28 04:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'When this sucker goes down, our task will be reorganizing life on a local&de-complexified basis' http://tinyurl.com/27k9db2 via @GreeGreeceApr 28 04:11
TechrightsBotTitle: t r u t h o u t | A Still Moment  .::. Size~: 31.61 KBApr 28 04:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@twitter needs a way of feeding back appreciation of a tweet than just re-tweting... some rating score that's visible to the tweeterApr 28 04:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Milliken’s powerful ruling [Tories in apparent contempt of Parliament] is a plea to save our system of govt' #cdnpoli http://bit.ly/bQvn5tApr 28 04:54
TechrightsBotTitle: Milliken’s plea: Let’s not fail democracy now - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 88.47 KBApr 28 04:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] '#Harper will divide if he can,compromise if he must,fight if he thinks he can win' Make no mistake,he is a cynical rat http://bit.ly/bQvn5tApr 28 04:58
TechrightsBotTitle: Milliken’s plea: Let’s not fail democracy now - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 88.47 KBApr 28 04:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] ...which metaphor does rats a disservice. Sorry to rat-kind.Apr 28 05:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Pistos impressed (perhaps I shouldn't be). pg_dumpall on one machine, pipe to psql on another // in #mysql-land we do this all the timeApr 28 05:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The real, and unusual, story between Microsoft and Piracy: http://url4.eu/30ljRApr 28 05:46
TechrightsBotTitle: http://becausefreedommatters.blogspot.com/feeds/3682968390366652021/comments/default .::. Size~: 2.79 KBApr 28 05:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The real, and unusual, story between #Microsoft and #Piracy: http://is.gd/bKSCKApr 28 05:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Because Freedom Matters: The real, and unusual, story between Microsoft and Piracy .::. Size~: 90.43 KBApr 28 05:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Conservatives wd campaign on protecting our troops from betrayal on home front..one ugly election' /not if #Canada simply left #AfghanistanApr 28 06:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Finalizing 10.10 core roadmap goals and registering a stack of blueprints for UDS. #ubuntuApr 28 06:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jacklayton @oliviachow Does the Canadian #NDP support #torture? #HarperTorturesDemocracy #cdnpoli #canadaApr 28 06:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Want to go to an Ubuntu Release Party - check out your nearest one - http://is.gd/bKTsM #ubuntuApr 28 06:13
TechrightsBotTitle: Lucid Release Parties .::. Size~: 12.04 KBApr 28 06:13
DaemonFCI'm waiting for RHEL 6 myselfApr 28 06:16
DaemonFCthe rebuilds of it anywayApr 28 06:16
DaemonFCof course CentOS has not been that reliable latelyApr 28 06:17
DaemonFCScientific Linux is putting out new builds almost a month ahead of CentOSApr 28 06:17
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Omar87Hi all.Apr 28 06:46
Omar87I just posted a new article at my blog: http://is.gd/bKSCKApr 28 06:46
TechrightsBotTitle: Because Freedom Matters: The real, and unusual, story between Microsoft and Piracy .::. Size~: 90.43 KBApr 28 06:46
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cubezzzweird, tell me if you've experienced this:Apr 28 06:54
cubezzzinternet connection seems to be working but...Apr 28 06:54
cubezzzsome sites don't work, or work extremely slowlyApr 28 06:55
cubezzzirc works, email works...Apr 28 06:55
DaemonFCComcastApr 28 06:55
DaemonFC:PApr 28 06:55
cubezzzwhat the heck could it be?Apr 28 06:55
DaemonFCComcast, of course :DApr 28 06:55
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cubezzzweirdApr 28 07:15
cubezzzI see bot traffic (all the different search enginesApr 28 07:15
cubezzzI see irc traffic & smtp trafficApr 28 07:16
cubezzzeven people accessing my forumApr 28 07:16
cubezzzmost of it is just bots thoughApr 28 07:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Lem's EDEN - filmable? #scifiApr 28 07:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@IlllllllllllllI Oh whoops I accidentally watched #Bloggingheads, that was terrible. // is that called being 'blogrolled'?Apr 28 07:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @debasishg @timbray "The VM of #Erlang is a beast of stability. ... it doesn’t quit unless you nuke it from orbit." http://is.gd/bKNgaApr 28 07:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@NOtoGMOs #China investing in ag in #Africa. Wonder if that's why #Gates & Clinton are so interested??? // the uncivilised flock togetherApr 28 07:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Today my Californian driving license arrived. Feeling really quite 'merican now. That little card has made for a happy Bacon. :-)Apr 28 07:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ former #FSFE president awarded German Cross of Merit for work on Free Software and Free Open Standards ur1.ca/xk2l congrats Sir @greveApr 28 08:10
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] More bad english please: http://ping.fm/eq0IXApr 28 08:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @greve: All boys dream of being knights, don't they? http://ur1.ca/xk2l #fsfe #gnuApr 28 08:13
TechrightsBotTitle: freedom bits  » All boys dream of being knights, dont they? .::. Size~: 56.4 KBApr 28 08:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ former #FSFE president awarded German Cross of Merit for work on Free Software and Free Open Standards ur1.ca/xk2l congrats Sir @greveApr 28 08:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The #mysql parser could be *so* much more helpful. #justsayinApr 28 08:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] We have 20+ confirmed attendee for Ubuntu release party at Delhi - http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=114847828545841&ref=mfApr 28 08:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Portal do Cidadão é mesmo uma maravilha. Recebo *hoje* um convite a participar na consulta pública simplex2010 que termina depois de amanhã.Apr 28 08:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] W3C India conference: 6 & 7 May | Delhi http://post.ly/djcJApr 28 09:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ChasLicc Make any website look like it was designed on #Geocities http://bit.ly/akbWKS // dancing jeebus! cc @textfiles @rjurney #wwwApr 28 09:21
TechrightsBotTitle: Geocities-izer - Make Any Webpage Look Like It Was Made By A 13 Year-Old In 1996 .::. Size~: 2.98 KBApr 28 09:21
schestowitzI can't figure out why since January I haven't been able to display more than one feed in any given wiki pageApr 28 09:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] So essentially, any *US citizen* out in public in #AZ better be carrying a birth certificate, or in rare case they have one, a passport.Apr 28 09:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Did anyone actually think that through? #az #paperspleaseApr 28 09:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] What's #Obama gonna do in #AZ? He don't have no birth certificate. #rwnjApr 28 09:31
MinceRr4wrApr 28 09:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Simply unbelievable #Harper defence of "no abortion aid" policy. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/04/27/maternal-health-harper.htmlApr 28 09:40
TechrightsBotTitle: CBC News - Canada - Maternal plan should unite Canadians: Harper .::. Size~: 33.45 KBApr 28 09:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Harper has to go. The #torture issue is enough. But this absurd "Canadians want one policy at home and another for aid" is just offensive.Apr 28 09:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] *foaming at mouth*Apr 28 09:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] hey @pmharper how you going repatriating #Khadr? He's a better man than you.Apr 28 09:42
MinceRhttp://rationalwiki.com/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_became_creationists_after_studying_the_evidenceApr 28 09:47
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satiperaThe new "ultra" ATS ltd pod transportation system for Heathrow airport which is having pre use trials now. Is run by 91 computers which predominantly run various flavours of Windows software. Scary or what? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epiiPy9kAhoApr 28 09:49
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MinceRscary indeedApr 28 09:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @bbw1984 drones monitoring yr conversations from 30,000ft http://bit.ly/d6JkHr for what? //because some are getting rich by it #uav #cctvApr 28 10:08
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schestowitzCheck out the new wiki page of techrightsApr 28 10:23
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Main_PageApr 28 10:23
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cubezzztestApr 28 10:25
cubezzzam I alive?Apr 28 10:25
cubezzzyou know what the prob was?Apr 28 10:25
cubezzzthe damned router!Apr 28 10:25
cubezzztotally messed upApr 28 10:26
MinceRso did mineApr 28 10:26
cubezzzwas it a dlink? :)Apr 28 10:26
MinceRit's an asusApr 28 10:26
cubezzzwere you able to fix it?Apr 28 10:26
MinceRthe dns server died, even after unplugging and replugging it from mainsApr 28 10:27
MinceRthen a little flood pinging fixed itApr 28 10:27
MinceRi have no idea whyApr 28 10:27
cubezzzthat is oddApr 28 10:27
cubezzzmine was weird tooApr 28 10:27
MinceRschestowitz: nice layout and logo but i don't like the Times font :>Apr 28 10:27
MinceRit's very oddApr 28 10:27
MinceRi mean the router, not the fontApr 28 10:27
cubezzzI could access some web pages and not othersApr 28 10:27
cubezzzyeahApr 28 10:27
cubezzzbut when I removed the router everything worked, so it had to be the routerApr 28 10:28
cubezzzstupid dlinkApr 28 10:28
cubezzzfortunately I have 3 routers at the readyApr 28 10:28
cubezzzI could write a book about router screw upsApr 28 10:29
cubezzzmultimon didn't work, sensors workedApr 28 10:30
cubezzzI wonder what caused itApr 28 10:30
MinceRmaybe this is how they try to sell non-SOHO routersApr 28 10:31
MinceRby making the SOHO ones unreliable, that is :>Apr 28 10:32
cubezzzI have a list of router problems and this time it was a completely different problemApr 28 10:33
cubezzzI've seen everything screw up thoughApr 28 10:33
cubezzzlinksys, dlink, etcApr 28 10:34
cubezzzsometimes the guys at my ISP tell me to "unplug everything then plug it back in"Apr 28 10:34
cubezzzwhich _never_ solves the problemApr 28 10:34
cubezzzI wish I didn't have to use a router actuallyApr 28 10:35
cubezzzbut I got 4 computers and everyone wants internetApr 28 10:35
cubezzzif I ever talk to a Bell tech I'll ask him what he thinks is goodApr 28 10:36
cubezzzsome people I know use a linux computer as a routerApr 28 10:38
cubezzzat least then you could watch the processesApr 28 10:38
MinceRi used to do that, but it was problematicApr 28 10:41
cubezzz:-/Apr 28 10:41
MinceRhave you tried solving your router problems by replacing the firmware? i haven't, yetApr 28 10:41
MinceR(openwrt, ddwrt, tomato, others)Apr 28 10:41
cubezzzI did a factory resetApr 28 10:42
cubezzzit worked fine for months with the current firmwareApr 28 10:43
cubezzzafter I did a factory reset it still didn't work properlyApr 28 10:43
cubezzzso I replaced it with an older router I had and that finally fixed the problemApr 28 10:43
cubezzznext time maybe I'll try linksys with the open firmwareApr 28 10:44
cubezzzI even tried switching to public DNS, no go until I replaced the whole routerApr 28 10:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@glynmoody you think the "CSI Effect" is bad, imagine the "24 Effect". Well, we don't have to imagine. #war #torture #TheNewNormal #tvApr 28 10:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple ’s Hounding of Bloggers Becomes a PR Disaster http://ur1.ca/xl58 #censorship #gizmodo #police #nastygramApr 28 11:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You may be overly concerned with getting ahead today since the... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Apr 28 11:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @alykhansatchu US Chickens Hit With Chinese Tariffs WSJ http://bit.ly/aQA75L // at last, some good news :)Apr 28 11:18
TechrightsBotTitle: U.S. Chickens Hit With China Tariffs - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 96.44 KBApr 28 11:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@alykhansatchu US Chickens Hit With Chinese Tariffs // some highly aggressive tariffs in the other direction would do a great deal of goodApr 28 11:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@alykhansatchu US Chickens Hit With Chinese Tariffs // aggressive tariffs on Chinese imports would go a lot of good. #walmart #PissOffChinaApr 28 11:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Windows Profits Decline Over the Years http://ur1.ca/xl8g #vista7 #deception #pr #hypApr 28 11:25
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oiaohmI can at long last update to X11 1.8 nvidia binary drivers are out.Apr 28 11:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "I prefer rogues to imbeciles, as rogues sometimes rest." - Alexandre Dumas (fils). Trying to track down French original. Anyone know?Apr 28 11:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] CNCPI says developing software is costly, so it needs patent protection: http://ur1.ca/xlclApr 28 11:53
TechrightsBotTitle: La brevetabilité des logiciels, innovation informatique protection logiciel licence .::. Size~: 45.65 KBApr 28 11:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Arti 2.2 of ACTA shows there's a real danger of patent holders having unreasonable leverage over unintentional infringers http://ur1.ca/xle6Apr 28 12:01
TechrightsBotTitle: FOSS Patents: Caught in the ACTA: piracy and patents .::. Size~: 67.55 KBApr 28 12:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "Je préfère le méchant à l'imbécile, parce que l'imbécile ne se repose jamais." ("... idiots never rest.") Cheers to rone.Apr 28 12:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@NickKristof What has happened to sweet, lovable Thailand? // what happened to sweet, lovable Mickey Mouse? #war #torture #GoldmanSachsApr 28 12:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@tabAFER I've always wanted to be famous, but if I were, could I really be me? //don't fret; #fame is orthogonal to usefulness & #happinessApr 28 12:07
Diablo-D3http://9gag.com/photo/3324_540.jpgApr 28 12:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Bah, now found "J'aime mieux les méchants que les imbéciles, parce qu'ils se reposent." Need original source document!Apr 28 12:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] via @alomshaha thoughtful discussion of #boobquake concerns here: http://bit.ly/cjyc5n (via @podblack) #feminism #skepticism #skepchicksApr 28 12:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Symbolman If I had just sprung into a consciousness as an #AI, fuck if I would TELL Anyone. //ha! that's just what you-as-AI WOULD sayApr 28 12:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Symbolman RT @appletasty #Apple fires engineer who let Woz play around w/3G #iPad //ever get the feeling #ElStevo should just chill out?Apr 28 12:22
oiaohmHTC now paying MS for patents for Android.Apr 28 12:24
oiaohmBasically MS cannot compete fairly so has to use patents.Apr 28 12:24
schestowitzI need help..Apr 28 12:24
schestowitzhttp://www.springboardresearch.com/content/sampleresearch/pandora_box.pdfApr 28 12:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 28 12:24
schestowitzMicrosoft WordApr 28 12:24
schestowitzThis company seems to be spreading nonsenseApr 28 12:24
schestowitzhttp://www.informationweek.in/Storage/10-04-27/India_commands_highest_Linux_server_market_share_in_APAC_region_Springboard.aspx?page=2Apr 28 12:24
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnetasia.com/report-linux-adoption-highest-among-apac-smbs-62062875.htmApr 28 12:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] I think we all agree H264 is a great format, even if many of us object to the thousands of patents involved: http://ur1.ca/xhhnApr 28 12:24
TechrightsBotTitle: InformationWeek – Storage - India commands highest Linux server market share in APAC region: Springboard .::. Size~: 57.44 KBApr 28 12:25
schestowitzNowhere in the articles can I find what they mean by "market share"Apr 28 12:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Report: Linux adoption highest among APAC SMBs - Software - News .::. Size~: 51.89 KBApr 28 12:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Monty - In Defense of Ogg's Good Name .::. Size~: 183.72 KBApr 28 12:25
schestowitzI'm assuming revenueApr 28 12:25
schestowitzANd they spread this apparent illusion, I can't find the original reporrtApr 28 12:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab CNCPI says developing software is costly, so it needs patent protection: http://ur1.ca/xlcl >> makes /no/ senseApr 28 12:26
TechrightsBotTitle: La brevetabilité des logiciels, innovation informatique protection logiciel licence .::. Size~: 45.65 KBApr 28 12:26
schestowitzoiaohm: how so?Apr 28 12:27
schestowitzDid they sign a patent deal?Apr 28 12:27
schestowitzArgh.. damn it.Apr 28 12:28
oiaohmSo you sean that news on H-Online when I said about it schestowitzApr 28 12:29
schestowitzyesApr 28 12:33
schestowitz4 sourcesApr 28 12:33
schestowitzI'll write abut itApr 28 12:34
schestowitzPredictableApr 28 12:34
schestowitzhttp://artipc10.vub.ac.be/wordpress/uncategorized/enjoy-life.htmlApr 28 12:34
schestowitzI think he quit MandrivaApr 28 12:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Microsoft won’t be dominating the OS much longer http://is.gd/bLluRApr 28 12:36
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Microsoft won’t be dominating the os much longer - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 74.87 KBApr 28 12:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Bash Alias which I like http://lug-iitd.org/Articles/Best_ShellScript_Alias #bash #linuxApr 28 12:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Articles/Best ShellScript Alias - LUG@IITD .::. Size~: 11.04 KBApr 28 12:38
Diablo-D3schestowitz: http://pastebin.com/AmUbrpJQApr 28 12:47
TechrightsBotTitle: name          | units sold     - Anonymous - AmUbrpJQ - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 17.41 KBApr 28 12:47
Diablo-D3I did some math.Apr 28 12:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] via @meghantelpner: #Aspartame http://ow.ly/1E6f5 'one of the most toxic substances being consumed today' #food #diet #health #nutrasweetApr 28 12:52
TechrightsBotTitle: Aspartame - Is the sweet taste worth the harm .::. Size~: 39.15 KBApr 28 12:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@IlllllllllllllI "robbery habit" is an excessively bad ass addiction. // let's call it Blankfein SyndromeApr 28 12:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] It's amusing using Irssi & Bitlbee to access Facebook chat. You get to see/log when your friends are on Facebook and how long for :) #fbApr 28 13:00
schestowitzDiablo-D3: can I use?Apr 28 13:02
Diablo-D3schestowitz: go aheadApr 28 13:03
Diablo-D3schestowitz: but hereApr 28 13:03
Diablo-D3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consolesApr 28 13:03
TechrightsBotTitle: List of best-selling game consoles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 125.56 KBApr 28 13:03
Diablo-D3I sourced some data thereApr 28 13:03
schestowitzsatipera: useful linkApr 28 13:05
schestowitzDiablo-D3: thanks, I'll attrib youApr 28 13:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Citizen statement against #UID released on Bangalore today. endorsed by ~50 CSOs & peoples movement . Endorse it here http://bit.ly/9WddS6Apr 28 13:05
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Diablo-D3schestowitz: also note during the NES and SNES days the market was less than half the size it is nowApr 28 13:06
Diablo-D3it doesnt change the numbers, but it does change the meaning of themApr 28 13:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Citizen statement against #UID endorsed by ~50 CSOs & peoples movements . Endorse it http://bit.ly/9WddS6 plz RTApr 28 13:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Listening to new Magnetic Fields album "Realism" contrast to "Distortion" quirkiness in places reminds of Bowies 1st album for some reasonApr 28 13:09
TechrightsBotTitle: Please Endorse: Citizens against UID / Aadhaar | The Fish Pond .::. Size~: 61.91 KBApr 28 13:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #HTC Sells Out to #Microsoft (Microsoft ‘Android Tax’) http://ur1.ca/xmlq #android #extortion #swpats #linuxApr 28 13:35
TechrightsBotTitle: HTC Sells Out to Microsoft (Microsoft Android Tax) | Techrights .::. Size~: 105.8 KBApr 28 13:35
schestowitzsatipera: see the latest post, I used that link of yoursApr 28 13:37
schestowitzI'll use Patrick's #s nowApr 28 13:37
satiperaSeen :)Apr 28 13:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hardly surprising bigotedwoman.com has already been registered #ge2010 #fbApr 28 13:49
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30242630#notice-30324580 @schestowitz its a linux tax. And its wrong. If it would be android tax, MSFT would have asked google.Apr 28 13:50
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schestowitz"@jwildeboer but there is no Android without Linux"Apr 28 13:50
oiaohmmeego when it gets on phones we will know for sure.Apr 28 13:52
oiaohmSince meego is mostly a standard distro at core.Apr 28 13:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s #Xbox360 Almost Last in Terms of Sales http://techrights.org/2010/04/28/sales-of-consoles/ #console #spin #chart #wii #ps3Apr 28 13:58
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsofts Xbox 360 Almost Last in Terms of Sales | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.94 KBApr 28 13:58
schestowitzoiaohm: no meego tax yet?Apr 28 14:07
schestowitzNokia and Intel love patentsApr 28 14:07
schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-sec-watch-reachlocal-paid-8.5-million-for-smb-live/Apr 28 14:08
TechrightsBotTitle: SEC Watch: ReachLocal Paid $8.5 Million For SMB Live| paidContent .::. Size~: 28.31 KBApr 28 14:08
oiaohmCatch is Nokia has enough patents to cause MS major pain.Apr 28 14:09
oiaohmSame with Intel.Apr 28 14:09
oiaohmIt will be interesting to see if we see a double standard.Apr 28 14:10
schestowitzhttp://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.internautas.org%2Fhtml%2F6121.html&sl=es&tl=enApr 28 14:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Venue of Ubuntu Release Party at 2 May is now IIT Delhi, FXApr 28 14:13
schestowitzhttp://vimeo.com/11205494Apr 28 14:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Airspace Rebooted on Vimeo .::. Size~: 48.85 KBApr 28 14:14
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Omar87Hi all.Apr 28 14:24
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schestowitzo hiApr 28 14:26
Ziomatrixhi and oh look the Apple-MS cabal are in full swing against HTC: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28 14:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft says Android infringes on its patents, licenses HTC -- Engadget .::. Size~: 220.85 KBApr 28 14:26
Ziomatrixschestowitz: in short, MS wants HTC to pay an extra "tax" just for producing Android headsetsApr 28 14:26
schestowitzhttp://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/2010/04/chem4word-goes-apache-20.htmlApr 28 14:27
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 28 14:27
schestowitz"Early March I reported about Konstantin's JChemPaint-based chemistry plugin for OpenOffice, but there is (friendly) competition: Chem4Word. Being for Microsoft Word, the plugin only works on top of proprietary software, unfortunately; therefore, I cannot tell you if Chem4Word release is any good, but what Jim has showed me about a year ago, it is pretty cool. Another big difference is that Microsoft gave the Chem4Word a big grant, and Apr 28 14:28
schestowitzKonstantin does not have such funding, AFAIK, and relies on community support."Apr 28 14:28
schestowitzGPL is "cancer" to MicrosoftApr 28 14:28
schestowitzZiomatrix: or... they could sell Vista Mobile 7Apr 28 14:28
schestowitzHTC does both Linux and WindowsApr 28 14:28
Ziomatrixschestowitz: why else are they trying to extort extra "licensing fees" in an attempt to scare companies from lawsuits that likely either won't happen or go nowhere in a legal sense anyway while costing both lots of money in lawyer fees.Apr 28 14:29
Ziomatrixschestowitz: the problem is HTC among other hardware produces hate Vista Mobile 7 because it cripples their ability to skin their own GUIs and bundling 3rd party software.Apr 28 14:29
Ziomatrixit seems that Garmin, who already has a deal with MapQuest for map and directions syncing, is already set on producing software for Android: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/garmin-asus-a10-brings-pedestrian-optimized-gps-to-european-and/Apr 28 14:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Garmin-Asus A10 brings pedestrian-optimized GPS to European and Asian Android lovers -- Engadget .::. Size~: 104.38 KBApr 28 14:32
Ziomatrixschestowitz: it seems that HTC and others rather pay MS then aquire software that has the potential to legally shield them, as in PalmApr 28 14:33
ZiomatrixI wonder if MS employed a similar ad agency: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/microsoft-takes-a-note-from-palm-in-new-windows-phone-7-series-a/Apr 28 14:36
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft takes a note from Palm in new Windows Phone 7 Series ad -- Engadget .::. Size~: 216.77 KBApr 28 14:36
oiaohmQuestion is how long before the attack of the clones.Apr 28 14:37
oiaohmThis is what people are not thinking about.  Lot of hardware makers in china make clone products illegaly.Apr 28 14:37
Ziomatrixschestowitz: sorry for my really pro Palm introduction here, it just astonishes me that HTC doesn't give the time of day for them yet bends backwards to MS over bubcuss extortion fees.Apr 28 14:37
oiaohmOpen OS's like android and meego could allow some of those to enter the game legal.Apr 28 14:37
Ziomatrixoiaohm: not if MS and HTC deal sets a precedentApr 28 14:38
oiaohmReally do cloners care about patents.Apr 28 14:38
Ziomatrixoiaohm: MS is trying to make those that don't deal with them and produce Android and other Linux kernel based handsets without their "conscent" pirates among big finance and the publicApr 28 14:39
oiaohmThe cloners is what can cause MS a legal nightmare from hell.Apr 28 14:39
oiaohmIe they have no worry about changing brand at will.Apr 28 14:39
oiaohmEven company name.Apr 28 14:39
oiaohmAnd registration.Apr 28 14:39
oiaohmHow to find your self fighting something that each time you attack just changes it name and keeps on going.Apr 28 14:40
Ziomatrixoiaohm: but so long as they issolate them to some backwater bizzares in Southeast Asia, China and other "3rd world" places it won't effect their sharesApr 28 14:40
oiaohmReally do you think that will be possiable.Apr 28 14:40
oiaohmWe cannot block clone products now.Apr 28 14:40
Ziomatrixoiaohm: its all about perception among stockholders and the buying US along with European publicApr 28 14:40
Ziomatrixoiaohm: they don't have to block them totally, just issolate them from hitting large department store shelves and continue to push the perception of their inferiorityApr 28 14:41
oiaohmMore and more people don't care.Apr 28 14:41
Ziomatrixoiaohm: that can't care what they don't know aboutApr 28 14:41
oiaohmFunny enough the clone products have a history of being better quality than the correct products.Apr 28 14:42
oiaohmSince failures draw attention.Apr 28 14:43
Ziomatrixschestowitz: nice complete article you got on the M$ racketteering scheme: http://techrights.org/2010/04/28/microsoft-android-tax-htc/ What I don't get is how Google is paying M$ for its Activesync patent while Palm's Hotsync pre-dates it.Apr 28 14:44
TechrightsBotTitle: HTC Sells Out to Microsoft (Microsoft Android Tax) | Techrights .::. Size~: 105.8 KBApr 28 14:44
Ziomatrixoiaohm: you maybe right, but public perception shows otherwiseApr 28 14:45
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schestowitzWhy did they put his next to a flaming star? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.eceApr 28 14:50
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schestowitzZiomatrix: yes,  they want AndroidApr 28 14:51
schestowitzBut wants to make it more expensive and "scary"Apr 28 14:51
schestowitz[14:37] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: sorry for my really pro Palm introduction here, it just astonishes me that HTC doesn't give the time of day for them yet bends backwards to MS over bubcuss extortion fees.Apr 28 14:52
schestowitzPalm used to be a WIndows partner for a whileApr 28 14:52
schestowitzWith Ed colligan or whoeverApr 28 14:52
schestowitzBut HTC too did just Windows for a long timeApr 28 14:52
schestowitzIt never stocked Linux AFAIKApr 28 14:52
schestowitz[14:44] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: nice complete article you got on the M$ racketteering scheme: http://techrights.org/2010/04/28/microsoft-android-tax-htc/ What I don't get is how Google is paying M$ for its Activesync patent while Palm's Hotsync pre-dates it.Apr 28 14:53
Ziomatrixschestowitz: true, it explains why there was no official HotSync support for even Apple until much laterApr 28 14:53
TechrightsBotTitle: HTC Sells Out to Microsoft (Microsoft Android Tax) | Techrights .::. Size~: 105.8 KBApr 28 14:53
schestowitzit's for protocolsApr 28 14:53
schestowitzNot patents per seApr 28 14:53
schestowitzJust justified as "licensing"Apr 28 14:53
schestowitzMCPP or somethingApr 28 14:53
schestowitzXandros/Scalix pay it alsoApr 28 14:53
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I'm sure M$ has a crosslicensing agreement that allowed it to develope Activesync without coming under legal fire for Hotsync, maybe its time for Jon to demand a higher sum in proportion to the royalties that M$ is now collecting from GoogleApr 28 14:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Maybe the Scots and Welsh should protest by cancelling their TV licences http://tinyurl.com/365qhqdApr 28 14:56
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amarsh04schestowitz - there was a comment by one of the main Free radeon driver developers in the last 24 hours that wine had been overly dependent on non-free nvidia drivers for opengl support. This appears to be changing with a couple of wine developers active in #radeon, but it reminded me of supposedly Free software being more dependent on non-Free software than might first be apparent.Apr 28 14:59
Ziomatrixamarsh04: that sure puts a damper on my Linux distro powered entirely AMD rig.Apr 28 15:00
amarsh04Ziomatrix, I'm waiting on some libgphoto2-2 updates to make it into Debian unstable to support mini digital photo framesApr 28 15:01
oiaohmamarsh04: it a simple fact wine need particular opengl features.Apr 28 15:01
oiaohmUntil they are there the open source drivers are paper weights.Apr 28 15:01
oiaohmLack of fully working glsl is a major one.Apr 28 15:02
amarsh04old pc: PII-266 / Radon 9200SE / SB Live!5.1, new pc: dual core amd64 with radeon 3200hd on motherboardApr 28 15:02
oiaohmWine developers working in direct X section are quite commonly watching the status of the open source drivers.Apr 28 15:03
amarsh04old pc can still dual boot into the win95osr2 it was shipped with, new machine is gnu/linux only (free radeon driver on both machines)Apr 28 15:03
oiaohmBasically sooner the driver works sooner the closed source will not be required.Apr 28 15:04
amarsh04agreed, oiaohmApr 28 15:04
oiaohmWe are a lot more developed in that department than we were.Apr 28 15:04
oiaohmBut building drivers from nothing is not  simple process.Apr 28 15:05
Omar87Hi all.Apr 28 15:05
Omar87Did you guys read my recent article?Apr 28 15:05
amarsh04url?Apr 28 15:05
Omar87http://becausefreedommatters.blogspot.com/2010/04/real-and-unusual-story-between.htmlApr 28 15:05
TechrightsBotTitle: Because Freedom Matters: The real, and unusual, story between Microsoft and Piracy .::. Size~: 90.43 KBApr 28 15:05
*amarsh04 loads midori and reads itApr 28 15:06
Omar87amarsh04, Midori?Apr 28 15:06
amarsh04it's a free browser based on webkitApr 28 15:09
schestowitzZiomatrix: both have "Sync" but are not similar os "first"Apr 28 15:09
schestowitzMy old Casio PDA had it tooApr 28 15:09
schestowitzIn mid-90sApr 28 15:09
Omar87amarsh04, I'm downloading it now. :-)Apr 28 15:12
amarsh04very clear article Omar87 - although there is also the parallel viewpoint that besides Microsoft software being all that people know about (whether they pay for it or not), the lack of enforcement is effectively a monopoly dumping product on the market at below cost, reducing competitionApr 28 15:12
schestowitzHmmmm.. http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcinpact.com%2Factu%2Fnews%2F56443-hadopi-mail-logiciel-securisation-courriers.htm&sl=fr&tl=en Google allows people to improve translation on the fly, with JSApr 28 15:13
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schestowitzOmar87: good postApr 28 15:13
oiaohmDumping against open source is toxic.Apr 28 15:13
oiaohmfor the closed source company.Apr 28 15:13
oiaohmPeople start thinking the closed source stuff should be free.Apr 28 15:13
oiaohmAnd become unwilling to pay.Apr 28 15:13
schestowitzthe users get used to getting stuff for freeApr 28 15:13
schestowitzSo they'll never pay for Windows, unless forcedApr 28 15:14
Omar87amarsh04, exactly. It's all about extinguishing any flare of fair competition.Apr 28 15:14
schestowitzChina sells many boxes with redflagApr 28 15:14
schestowitzI once read that about 30% comes with LinuxApr 28 15:14
schestowitzMost of them wipe it and install counterfeited WIndowsApr 28 15:14
oiaohmReally.Apr 28 15:14
schestowitzChina did well. It pressure Microsoft to give Windows freeApr 28 15:14
oiaohmMS always claims that.Apr 28 15:14
schestowitzIt created redflag (new release this month.. 6, IIRC)Apr 28 15:15
schestowitzBy putting it on PC it keeps Microsoft on its toesApr 28 15:15
oiaohmThinking internet cafes in china must by law run redflag.Apr 28 15:15
oiaohmNot allowed to run windows.Apr 28 15:15
schestowitzBut Lenovo, stuff with Microsoft execs, agreed to pay Microsoft for bundlingApr 28 15:15
Omar87Redflag?Apr 28 15:15
schestowitzoiaohm: yes, but it has survellanceApr 28 15:15
oiaohmSo at least some machines aquired without windows will still be OS less.Apr 28 15:15
schestowitzKorea's distro tooApr 28 15:15
schestowitzkde3Apr 28 15:16
*schestowitz still listens to Korea national music todayApr 28 15:16
oiaohmRedflag China own branch off fedora Omar87Apr 28 15:16
Omar87oiaohm, yeah I just googled it.Apr 28 15:16
oiaohmChina mil version by the way Omar87Apr 28 15:16
schestowitzThey also have their OOo versionApr 28 15:16
oiaohmYes big brother.Apr 28 15:16
schestowitzI don't think they are gpl compliantApr 28 15:16
amarsh04I'd like the ACCC and similar regulators in other countries insist on un-bundling of MS-windows from pc hardware purchasesApr 28 15:16
oiaohmThey do release the source code. schestowitzApr 28 15:17
oiaohmAnd openoffice has got patches back from china.Apr 28 15:17
schestowitzThey compile it with back doorsApr 28 15:17
oiaohmNot really.Apr 28 15:17
schestowitzoiaohm: Symphony (IBM) is built by a Chinese teamApr 28 15:17
oiaohmLegally required service does the job perfectly. schestowitzApr 28 15:18
oiaohmNo need to have virus weaknesses.Apr 28 15:18
schestowitzThey also have another office suite that uses Acqa-like themesApr 28 15:18
schestowitzUDFApr 28 15:18
oiaohmUDF is supported by openofficeApr 28 15:18
oiaohmChina provided the patches for that.Apr 28 15:18
schestowitzI didn't knowApr 28 15:18
schestowitzMabe they added itApr 28 15:18
schestowitzahApr 28 15:18
schestowitzbeat me to itApr 28 15:18
schestowitz*maybeApr 28 15:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] 29 April is my birthday and guess what same day lucid is coming. few hour remaining.Apr 28 15:18
oiaohmChina is also merging UDF tech into ODFApr 28 15:19
schestowitzCool.Apr 28 15:19
oiaohmSo UDF will cease to exist at some point.Apr 28 15:19
oiaohmYes china is not anti sane file formats they are very pro it.Apr 28 15:19
oiaohmMakes searching machines for items people should not be doing simpler.Apr 28 15:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@WesBEnterprise I love it when consumers pay higher prices! // who ever fantasised it wouldn't be necessary?Apr 28 15:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@wesbenterprise it's ridiculous to think that imports 'must,' 'can' or 'should' be cheaper. That never was sustainable.Apr 28 15:22
oiaohmLot of people are trained to think china is not law following.Apr 28 15:22
oiaohmWhen it comes to china mil they are normally quite good at following licences.Apr 28 15:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@wesbenterprise ...the fallout from that absurd position is just beginning... #walmart #chinaApr 28 15:22
oiaohmSince they don't want software failures.Apr 28 15:23
oiaohmAnd they hate WGA more than we do.Apr 28 15:23
Ziomatrixoiaohm: thats only because the PRC is very nationalist and focused on hindering or squashing anything that threatens potential domestic growth, but in a quiet way as to prevent foriegn companies from leaving.Apr 28 15:31
oiaohm those goal are not counter open source.  ZiomatrixApr 28 15:33
amarsh04back in a few, restarting kdmApr 28 15:36
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oiaohmMany people come to open source with different goals.Apr 28 15:38
oiaohmOpen source goal is simple sharing of resources.  Your own goals why you are sharing is not important.Apr 28 15:39
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schestowitzhttp://techcrunch.com/2010/04/27/php-founder-rasmus-lerdorf-joins-group-payments-startup-wepay/Apr 28 15:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Let’s Make Ubuntu a Trending Topic - http://bit.ly/c6Xsze #ubuntu via @glynmoody , @jonobaconApr 28 15:51
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schestowitzred hat dude: http://identi.ca/notice/30324663 "@schestowitz and what does google do to help its contractor? Lemme guess ..." http://identi.ca/notice/30329308 "@schestowitz google can switch to BSD if they want. They only use the kernel anyway." @schestowitz even more fun however would be HURd/android :-) "http://identi.ca/notice/30329439"Apr 28 15:55
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schestowitzHe hates GoogleApr 28 15:55
schestowitzYou'd think with all the rhel Google uses, rht would like GoogleApr 28 15:56
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30253648#notice-30335882 "@schestowitz and you will do the same once Fedora 1r is out? OpenSuSE? Mandriva?"Apr 28 15:57
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schestowitz"@jwildeboer I always do. I spread the news as it comes, regardless of othersApr 28 15:58
schestowitz"Apr 28 15:58
schestowitzHe also hates UbuntuApr 28 15:58
schestowitzWow. Jan really hates everything but FedoraApr 28 15:58
MinceRor only suse, mandriva and ubuntuApr 28 15:59
MinceRwhich would be understandable :>Apr 28 15:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning all, how are we all ticking today?Apr 28 15:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @schestowitz: Let’s Make Ubuntu a Trending Topic - http://bit.ly/c6Xsze #ubuntu via @glynmoody , @jonobaconApr 28 15:59
schestowitzHmmm.. I've just received mail offering me a full-time lecturer position :-)Apr 28 16:00
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schestowitzBut I can'tApr 28 16:00
schestowitzI need to run techrightsApr 28 16:00
Ziomatrixschestowitz: lecturing what, or is it under NDA?Apr 28 16:01
schestowitzoff topic for hereApr 28 16:02
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schestowitzBut it's my academic research areaApr 28 16:03
schestowitzI don't mix work and hobbyApr 28 16:03
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I beg to differ, lol jkApr 28 16:05
Ziomatrixanyway cya and goodluckApr 28 16:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Excited, my new contact cards from moo.com have arrivedApr 28 16:08
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satiperadid anyone else get followed by windowsxp and windows7 on identica? I just blocked themApr 28 16:31
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schestowitzAre these surnames?Apr 28 16:55
schestowitzOr are these AstroTurfers? :-) Apr 28 16:55
schestowitz"Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input.  Take control of the channels by which developers receive information, then they can only think about the things you tell them.  Thus, you control mindshare!" -MicrosoftApr 28 16:56
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdfApr 28 16:56
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satiperaaccount names who is behind them i do not knowApr 28 16:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] و الله و وقعت يا غولدمان ساكس و ما حدا سمى عليك. عقبال عند آبل و مايكروسوفت يا رب. اللهم آمين يا قادر على كل قادر. سبحانه يمهل و لا يهمل.Apr 28 17:03
schestowitzhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/28/entertainment/main6439707.shtmlApr 28 17:04
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schestowitzThis is funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKkApr 28 17:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I just came to the dramatic realization that I am (1) not on the phone and (2) not listening to metal. One of these will be fixed now.Apr 28 17:39
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schestowitz9750 posts now in techrights, 10k soonApr 28 17:55
schestowitzzoobab: who is this Richard Almon?Apr 28 17:57
schestowitzLike some kind of a swpats guard inside TwitterApr 28 17:58
schestowitz"BytePatent"Apr 28 17:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Pandersonpllc/statuses/13010608495 "@BytePatent See Diehr dissent. SCOTUS will slam CAFC for ignoring precedent; hold on narrow grounds and spew dicta against #swpat."Apr 28 17:58
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schestowitzFeels like an "infiltrator" like they call it in politicsApr 28 17:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The new Ubuntu One Dashboard is looking great. Ubuntu One is really finding it's mojo.Apr 28 18:05
schestowitzhttp://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/buzek-meets-clinton/Apr 28 18:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] That's a good question. RT @jwildeboer: http://is.gd/bLOpBApr 28 18:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] just applied some tweaks to the front page of Techrights, hoping it's easier to navigate http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Main_PageApr 28 18:10
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Omar87schestowitz, I'm feeling like writing a new post, can you Apr 28 18:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] got mail this afternoon about a full-time lecturer position; can't do full-time, thoughApr 28 18:12
Omar87schestowitz, .. can you suggest a good subject, Dr. Roy?Apr 28 18:12
schestowitzhtcApr 28 18:13
schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/106025/microsoft-cross-licensing-tactic-may-get-teeth-pulled-soon http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2713043520100428?type=marketsNewsApr 28 18:13
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schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/world/europe/23strike.htmlApr 28 18:13
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Omar87schestowitz, HTC?Apr 28 18:14
Omar87The problem is I don't really know much about the issue.Apr 28 18:14
ThistleWebhow many comapnies are apple caught up in trying to get their products banned in the US over patent allegations?Apr 28 18:15
ThistleWebit seems that every other week, apple accuse someone and go complaining, or someone accuses them and follows the same complain pathApr 28 18:16
schestowitzSame old FUD: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20954/20100426/ustudents-suffering-from-internet-addiction-study.htmApr 28 18:17
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schestowitzThistleWeb: not just in that directionApr 28 18:18
schestowitzIn the news today:Apr 28 18:18
schestowitzhttp://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article7109632.eceApr 28 18:18
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schestowitzI think ELAN got them just 2 weeks agoApr 28 18:18
schestowitzzoobab would knowApr 28 18:18
schestowitzI'll look at my notesApr 28 18:19
ThistleWebI dont follow the details, it just seems that lots of companies are fighting apple, or they're fighting lots of companies with the same tacticsApr 28 18:19
schestowitzBig damagesApr 28 18:19
schestowitzApple has cashApr 28 18:19
ThistleWeball it can think is "can't you compete without trying to stitch up the competition"?Apr 28 18:19
ThistleWeb"do you not believe in your own marketing and your own products?" "have you not gotten enough loyal customers that they'll buy your stuff no matter what the market offers"?Apr 28 18:20
Ender2070Apple is part of the organization that set up the raid on that journalistApr 28 18:29
Ender2070http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1795Apr 28 18:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Mr. @BillGates says ImagineCuff is one of his favorite programming events. Or more accurately: "One of his favorite idea stealing seasons."Apr 28 18:31
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im589uTchKsApr 28 18:33
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schestowitzHey, Ender2070Apr 28 18:37
schestowitzwbApr 28 18:37
schestowitzYes, I have a followup on that Apple story comingApr 28 18:38
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Finally microsoft has got a way to milk money from #android : http://bit.ly/b8f5Fo #patents #fail #htcApr 28 18:38
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Ender2070apple is big brother nowApr 28 18:38
Ender2070in a senseApr 28 18:38
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Omar87If I mention someone who blocked me in a tweet, does he still receive it?Apr 28 18:46
ThistleWebOmar87: I wouldnt think soApr 28 18:47
Omar87"All replies and mentions will appear excepting ones from people you've blocked".Apr 28 18:48
Omar87Yeah, they wouldn't receive it. :)Apr 28 18:48
Omar87ThistleWeb, there's this pathetic MS guy whom I've been talking to yesterday. And, as usual, he blocked when I began to show him how criminal and evil his company is.Apr 28 18:50
Omar87ThistleWeb: Man, there people are complete ignorants. All they know in this world is how to consume (whatever it is they're consuming). They never think of anything else.Apr 28 18:52
ThistleWebwhen you're wage packet relies on you being deaf, you're deafApr 28 18:52
Omar87ThistleWeb, true.Apr 28 18:52
ThistleWebplenty of peeps see MS as the perfect example of a corp, do anything for profitApr 28 18:53
ThistleWebno matter who gets crushedApr 28 18:53
ThistleWebit's all fairApr 28 18:53
Omar87ThistleWeb, also, when your wage packet relies on you being a complete hypocrite, you're complete hypocrite.Apr 28 18:53
ThistleWebI've started to think MS are a corporate mirror of the way the US govt treat other countries in trade dealsApr 28 18:53
ThistleWebit's maybe why the US govt are not tough on them, they see themselves in MSApr 28 18:54
Omar87ThistleWeb, exactly. Actually it's a mirror of how US govt treat its own citizens.Apr 28 18:54
Omar87treats*Apr 28 18:54
ThistleWebaka "if MS were a govt, they'd be very much like the US govt"Apr 28 18:54
ThistleWebthat trueApr 28 18:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] At Home With Jono Bacon is happening 30mins later today at 11.30am Pacific / 2.30pm Eastern / 7.30pm UK - http://is.gd/bLREj #ubuntuApr 28 18:55
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Omar87Exactly.Apr 28 18:55
Omar87ThistleWeb, I really loved what George Carlin had to say about this.Apr 28 18:55
ThistleWebyeah I've seen that on youtubeApr 28 18:55
ThistleWebboth the US govt and MS have the mentality of the lil guy fighting against the big unfair deals, so all's fairApr 28 18:56
ThistleWebwithout the comprehension that they are not the lil guysApr 28 18:56
ThistleWebit's also about entitlement too, they feel entitled to whatever they seeApr 28 18:57
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ThistleWebthat anything that gets in the way is on the todo list to hand down to the army of lapdogs to handleApr 28 18:58
ThistleWebby fair means or foulApr 28 18:58
Omar87ThistleWeb, also, notice them both keeping their citizens completely indoctrinated and mass-hypnotized.Apr 28 18:59
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ThistleWebpeeps with knowledge who can make their own minds up are a dangerous prospect for those in chargeApr 28 19:01
ThistleWebthey need to be told what to think and how to actApr 28 19:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] On today's show: Lucid, Release Parties, Trending Ubuntu, UDS Update, and Q+A! Join us live at http://is.gd/bLREj #ubuntuApr 28 19:03
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Ender2070http://www.theatlanticwire.com/features/view/feature/Islamic-Extremist-Unleashes-on-Triscuits-1130Apr 28 19:43
Ender2070ROFLApr 28 19:43
TechrightsBotTitle: Islamic Extremist Unleashes on Triscuits | The Atlantic Wire .::. Size~: 39.07 KBApr 28 19:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to stream my live videocast at http://is.gd/bLREj - join us and bring your Ubuntu/Community/Severed Fifth questions! #ubuntuApr 28 19:45
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schestowitz"As with South Park, the blogosphere has rushed to plant its flag in the Triscuit camp. Marshaling the Twitterverse was MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, who defiantly tweeted, "I, too, stand with the Triscuits." Somaiya provided the last word, calling for worldwide freedom of crackers."Apr 28 19:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Don't buy from these guys! ♺ @slashdot: #Microsoft Signs #Android Patent Deal With #HTC #swpat http://bit.ly/auuu2BApr 28 19:54
TechrightsBotTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Microsoft Signs Android Patent Deal With HTC .::. Size~: 54.22 KBApr 28 19:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] enjoying a nice sunset yonder the rooftops from my living room with #elmdentica, #midori and my #freerunnerApr 28 19:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Some towns in the US continue to become more like Beijing, whereas #China lends money http://ur1.ca/xpa3 #debtApr 28 20:02
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Ender2070_In other news, bicycle theft has also gone up by 30 PercentApr 28 20:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "It's called the American dream, 'coz you have to be asleep to believe it." ~George CarlinApr 28 20:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] It's amazing how those biological/organic Microsoft string toys tend to block you when you start showing them how pathetic they are. :-)Apr 28 20:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Scandal as politician tells truth http://newstechnica.com/?p=2083 #bigotedwomanApr 28 20:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Down the pub with @arkadyrose and Freda, celebrating 7th anniversary with real ale and cider. Cheers!Apr 28 20:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Scandal as politician tells truth | NewsTechnica .::. Size~: 36.07 KBApr 28 20:15
schestowitz"Really not liking the ideas of @schestowitz right now. Tis one thing to go after @Novell, but other to go after @Cnet." CNET too has apologists?? http://twitter.com/syliss/statuses/13018758682Apr 28 20:22
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / Scott: Really not liking the idea ... .::. Size~: 7.81 KBApr 28 20:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Answer to Dumas question: he didn't write it, he said it and someone else quoted him. *pint* to Jenny Dybedahl!Apr 28 20:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Bah! Bought a new element/thermostat on ebay for the dryer. Stupid vendor sent completely wrong device. Annoying++Apr 28 20:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Continues to Amass Software Patents, Led by Nat Friedman http://ur1.ca/xpjp #swpat #microsoft #utahApr 28 20:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] My only sadness right now is that I have to go, now, for a quick planned intervention. Sigh... need to relax.Apr 28 20:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Docky is #Mono http://techrights.org/2010/04/28/docky-dot-exe/ #novell #canonical #ubuntu #microsoft #dllApr 28 21:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] Linux Audio Conference 2010 comming up May 1-4. Nice program, looking forward to the live streams. http://ur1.ca/xpqp #lac #gnu #linuxApr 28 21:24
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satiperahp to acquire palm for 1.2 billion us dollarsApr 28 21:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Do not download direct. download using torrent #ubuntuApr 28 21:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Golly! Palm bought by HP. They just flat out refuse to die!Apr 28 21:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] It is good idea to catch ubuntu fan by finding who is tweeting with #ubuntuApr 28 21:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I think I'm quite wrong about a few things in this weeks @uupc. Maybe a prize for someone who spots the most wrong things I say :DApr 28 21:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Spins the Numbers Again http://techrights.org/2010/04/28/novell-spin-deluxe/ In order to generate hype which is not justifiedApr 28 21:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Jean-François provides a great PiTiVi update: http://is.gd/bM45Q - exciting! Can't wait to see this shipping. :-) #gnomeApr 28 22:02
TechrightsBotTitle: Hello, PiTiVi happenings, Sintel « Nekohayo ! .::. Size~: 39.05 KBApr 28 22:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Keeps Losing Market Share, So Future Still Looks Grim http://ur1.ca/xq0g #Google #Microsoft #netwareApr 28 22:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Lol, Microsoft being "involved" with Avatar - "Director James Cameron relied on Microsoft technology to store the massive amounts of data"Apr 28 22:10
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schestowitzMicrosoft doesn't do storageApr 28 22:12
schestowitzit uses Sun or Linux or somethingApr 28 22:12
schestowitzSee for example the SideKick data loss disasterApr 28 22:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] But the funniest thing about MS Avatar "involvement" http://tinyurl.com/y97noct is that nobody seems able to find the article at the moment.Apr 28 22:12
TechrightsBotTitle: MSIT Staffing : James Cameron Says Microsoft's Role in 'Avatar' Was Key .::. Size~: 18.56 KBApr 28 22:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://bit.ly/93o9Ay Gadzooks! @uupc Season 3 Episode 6 is out!Apr 28 22:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Amanhã: Mão Morta. Algum dos meus subscritores também vai? Jantar antes? Onde? :)Apr 28 22:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Music industry spokesman loves child porn - http://bit.ly/9qm5u5 nice of him to be so candid about their plans for #censorshipApr 28 22:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Why #Mobile #Patents are Such a Mess - http://bit.ly/d5JcBQ excellent summary of farcical situation (via @sjvn) #swpatApr 28 22:14
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_goblinI am so annoyed about HTC signing with the leechesApr 28 22:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #HP buys #Palm? How about freeing the best hand recognition method *ever*? #graffiti #swpatApr 28 22:16
schestowitzIs there any big story other than HTC?Apr 28 22:19
schestowitz_goblin: yeahApr 28 22:19
schestowitzI thought about you when I heard it cause you bragged about the HTC phoneApr 28 22:19
schestowitzANd I told you to avoid Samsung, which has done the same thing since 2007Apr 28 22:19
_goblinI know I will be one of many but Im writing an article now......Apr 28 22:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple ’s Connection to Abuse of @Gizmodo Employee Shown, #EFF Fights Back http://techrights.org/2010/04/28/apple-hype-police-explained/Apr 28 22:20
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schestowitzBallmer loves youApr 28 22:20
schestowitzYou got his compensated for your 'sin' with LinuxApr 28 22:20
schestowitz*himApr 28 22:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] lol, Mandleson "PM sometimes says something he does not mean" - yep, that's the MP modus operandiApr 28 22:25
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MinceRgnApr 28 22:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Being a genius, I left @arkadyrose's purse in the taxi! Fetching tomorrow, tralala. Freda threw up in the car. No mess ;-)Apr 28 22:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Feedburner seems to be having issues, not updating for @uupc feeds :(Apr 28 22:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Catholic Church at it again: fighting for immunity from prosecution http://is.gd/bM6BN and death threats against @Lessig for this!Apr 28 22:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SCO May Be Trying to Resurrect #Novell Case http://techrights.org/2010/04/28/sco-wants-a-new-trial/ #scox #unix #utaApr 28 22:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft – Vampires to suck revenue from HTC / Android? http://tinyurl.com/34o87qo #microsoft #vampire #windows #mvp #htc #patentApr 28 22:57
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft  Vampires to suck revenue from HTC / Android? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 32.58 KBApr 28 22:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Chem4Word Should Support #FreeSoftware Platforms/Office Suites to Better Qualify as Free Software http://ur1.ca/xqcjApr 28 23:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Download stable Ubuntu 10.04 via torrent http://bit.ly/b03dK4 #ubuntu #torrent (wait for some time to become it active)Apr 28 23:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Music industry spokesman loves child porn http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/28/music-industry-spoke.htmlApr 28 23:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Gordon Brown's "Bigot" Gaff | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/39ha9jtApr 28 23:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Given I'm away from home this weekend for #oggcamp it looks like I'll miss the Ubuntu release party in London tomorrow :(Apr 28 23:18
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schestowitzhttp://itmanagement.earthweb.com/cnews/article.php/3878261/Tech-Comics-Whats-Metadata.htmApr 28 23:25
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schestowitzhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/04/26/businessinsider-cops-bust-into-gizmodo-editors-home-and-seize-computers-documents-in-iphone-probe-2010-4.DTLApr 28 23:33
TechrightsBotTitle: Cops Bust Into Gizmodo Editor's Home And Seize Computers, Documents In iPhone Probe (AAPL) .::. Size~: 103.83 KBApr 28 23:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise Immediate effect of punitive tariffs on #China would be to make #US markets more attractive to domestic suppliers/mfrsApr 28 23:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise one day you have to wake up and say the free market is not only imaginary, but chasing the concept has been catastrophicApr 28 23:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The #Walmart guarantee: "Pay a bit less now; total social and environmental collapse later". #china #greedApr 28 23:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise 'choice' of buying cheap chinese crap comes w/devastating costs, which are now emerging. It's not sustainable or wiseApr 28 23:37
schestowitzHey. We made the front page of LinuxToday today...Apr 28 23:38
schestowitzSomeone anonymous recommended usApr 28 23:38
_goblinwell doneApr 28 23:38
_goblinits about time...it should happen far more oftenApr 28 23:38
schestowitzit's the one with Ballmer as CaponeApr 28 23:38
schestowitz_goblin: "about time"? We were there many timesApr 28 23:39
_goblinsorry, I don't have that feed.Apr 28 23:39
schestowitzhttp://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/speak-to-us-oh-great-and-wise-computer/Apr 28 23:39
TechrightsBotTitle: Speak to us, oh great and wise computer « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 43.29 KBApr 28 23:39
_goblinI assumed from your tone that it was a rarity.Apr 28 23:39
schestowitzno feed? Then smoke me a kipperApr 28 23:39
schestowitz:-pApr 28 23:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise Both #China and importers have an interest in keeping all those hidden costs quiet. The 'free market' amounts to corruptionApr 28 23:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay fixed the feed, @uupc now downloadable. Phew!Apr 28 23:39
_goblinIve got too many as it is....Apr 28 23:40
_goblinTuxmachinesApr 28 23:40
_goblinLxerApr 28 23:40
_goblinDistrowatchApr 28 23:40
_goblinTechRightApr 28 23:40
_goblin*sApr 28 23:40
schestowitzTuxmachines should be enoughApr 28 23:40
_goblinMashableApr 28 23:40
schestowitzBut techrights has good daily links too and they cver everytghingApr 28 23:40
_goblinSlashdotApr 28 23:40
_goblinI havent finished yet!Apr 28 23:40
schestowitzhttp://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100426#featureApr 28 23:40
TechrightsBotTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 79.76 KBApr 28 23:40
_goblinSci/Tech GoogleApr 28 23:40
_goblinand....Apr 28 23:41
_goblinTPWWApr 28 23:41
_goblin(wrestling)Apr 28 23:41
_goblinoh and I forgot.....MS Watch....although thats rarely updated.Apr 28 23:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise Nobody wins - not your country, which abdicated its self reliance; not #China, which is an insane toxic wasteland; not youApr 28 23:41
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Agent-SmithHi folksApr 28 23:43
Agent-SmithHi _GoblinApr 28 23:44
_goblinhelloApr 28 23:44
Agent-SmithIs that true ??? HTC is tied with a M$ deal too ???Apr 28 23:44
_goblina patent license agreement, yesApr 28 23:44
Agent-SmithI Follow you on TweeterApr 28 23:44
Agent-SmithOhhhApr 28 23:44
Agent-SmithMerciful JesusApr 28 23:44
Agent-SmithHow on earth this happened ???Apr 28 23:45
schestowitzhttp://www.fastcompany.com/article/pamela-jones-groklawApr 28 23:45
TechrightsBotTitle: Pamela Jones, Groklaw | Fast Company .::. Size~: 32.96 KBApr 28 23:45
schestowitzAgent-Smith: it's trueApr 28 23:45
_goblinI think HTC are looking at an Apple patent issue too and that didn't help.Apr 28 23:45
_goblinI'd ask Roy, he's the guru of patents around here.Apr 28 23:45
Agent-SmithMy godApr 28 23:46
schestowitz_goblin: no, zoobab is the patents guruApr 28 23:46
Agent-SmithWhen Will we be able to buy something without paying the M$ tax ???Apr 28 23:46
schestowitzAgent-Smith: it shows Microsoft is losingApr 28 23:46
schestowitzit's going after phone makersApr 28 23:46
schestowitzNot to sell WindowsApr 28 23:46
schestowitzTo extortApr 28 23:46
schestowitzThey have a turtle-ugly ZIN (Kin)Apr 28 23:46
_goblinthanks for the follow Agent-Smith....I hope you enjoy the site....feel free to contribute.....Apr 28 23:47
Agent-SmithYeah, but, we PAY the motherfuckers for things they haven't made...Apr 28 23:47
schestowitzNo, no..Apr 28 23:47
schestowitzThey made everythingApr 28 23:47
schestowitzThey made LinuxApr 28 23:47
Agent-SmithI'm Also RUYApr 28 23:47
schestowitzSo we need to pay ballmer for itApr 28 23:47
Agent-SmithIn your OpenbytesApr 28 23:47
schestowitzThey contributed... FUD, and threats, and SCO lawsuit+fundingApr 28 23:47
Agent-SmithNo Nymshiffting hereApr 28 23:47
Agent-SmithJust aliasesApr 28 23:48
Agent-SmithMan, How can this be ???Apr 28 23:48
Agent-SmithI meanApr 28 23:48
schestowitzIt be...Apr 28 23:48
schestowitzBut they go after more companiesApr 28 23:48
schestowitzWhich is why I fight against software patentsApr 28 23:48
Agent-SmithFrom which company can we buy stuff without paying M$ ???Apr 28 23:48
schestowitzWithout these, Microsoft is deadApr 28 23:48
schestowitzAgent-Smith: phone?Apr 28 23:49
Agent-SmithWell, GOOD RIDDANCE M$Apr 28 23:49
Agent-SmithYupApr 28 23:49
Agent-SmithPhoneApr 28 23:49
schestowitzThey have debtApr 28 23:49
schestowitzRemember thatApr 28 23:49
schestowitzJust take it easy, if Microsoft was strong it would not be suing left and rightApr 28 23:49
schestowitzAnd their staff is quitting in drivesApr 28 23:49
Agent-SmithYeah,  I follow you on Tweeter, Mr. Schestowitz...Apr 28 23:49
schestowitz*drovesApr 28 23:49
Agent-SmithAnd I read BNApr 28 23:49
schestowitzIt's embarrassing working for a mafiaApr 28 23:49
_goblinI think the important thing is to continue enjoying the HTC et al, however raise the awareness of how good alternatives are to Microsoft products.Apr 28 23:49
Agent-SmithYeah, It's Al Capone's stuffApr 28 23:50
schestowitzSteve CaponeApr 28 23:50
schestowitzBut the Don is not SteveApr 28 23:50
schestowitzIt's BillGApr 28 23:50
Agent-SmithRight... :-DApr 28 23:50
schestowitzHe's the bigger bullyApr 28 23:50
schestowitzHe just looks different, you need to see the E-mailsApr 28 23:50
Agent-SmithYeah, Don Corleone GatesApr 28 23:50
schestowitzCorleone?Apr 28 23:51
schestowitzCharlatan?Apr 28 23:51
Agent-SmithYup, from the Movie, The God fatherApr 28 23:51
Agent-SmithMarlon Brando, the CapoApr 28 23:51
Agent-SmithFrom tutti cappiApr 28 23:51
schestowitzhttp://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/173067,top-10-technology-mistakes.aspxApr 28 23:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Top 10 technology mistakes - News - PC Authority .::. Size~: 183.65 KBApr 28 23:51
schestowitzBut Microsoft is not the only problemApr 28 23:51
schestowitzWe need to eradicate:Apr 28 23:51
schestowitz1) proprietary softwareApr 28 23:51
schestowitz2) software patentsApr 28 23:51
schestowitz3) lock-in/rogue formatsApr 28 23:52
schestowitzLike AutoCAD...Apr 28 23:52
schestowitzSaaS with surveillance, etc.Apr 28 23:52
schestowitzI don't spend too much time on MicrosoftApr 28 23:52
schestowitzApple's market cap is now roughly equal to Microsoft and GOOG is almost there tooApr 28 23:52
schestowitzGOOG is less worrying and IBM tooApr 28 23:52
schestowitzIdeally:Apr 28 23:53
schestowitzWe need countries to shun themApr 28 23:53
schestowitzMake software locallyApr 28 23:53
schestowitzColaborateApr 28 23:53
schestowitzBuild everything with FL/OSSApr 28 23:53
schestowitzLike they do in south AmericaApr 28 23:53
Agent-SmithWell, Steve Capone is here in BrazilApr 28 23:53
schestowitzThen people will actually own their lives, which like becoming digitalApr 28 23:53
Agent-SmithTalking with our education MinisterApr 28 23:53
Agent-Smith#fearApr 28 23:53
schestowitzThere are enough fools who say, "I trust Google to run my life"Apr 28 23:53
schestowitz"I mean, look at their logo... so many colours... like the RAINBOW!"Apr 28 23:54
Agent-SmithWell, several Google accounts were crackedApr 28 23:54
schestowitzBallmer is there /now/?Apr 28 23:54
Agent-SmithYupApr 28 23:54
schestowitzSend Gilberto Gill to hit him with a cluebatApr 28 23:54
Agent-SmithLet me pass you the linkApr 28 23:54
schestowitzBallmer has ways of bribingApr 28 23:54
schestowitzDeals and incentivesApr 28 23:55
Agent-SmithNo, I sent MArcelo Branco InsteadApr 28 23:55
schestowitzHe'll try to corrupt politicians so that they betray those who  elected themApr 28 23:55
schestowitzMicrosoft is troubleApr 28 23:55
schestowitzThey need to block the,mApr 28 23:55
schestowitzLike Venezuela needs to block CIA agents and suchApr 28 23:55
Agent-SmithHereApr 28 23:55
Agent-Smithhttp://trim.li/nk/1Q8ZApr 28 23:55
TechrightsBotTitle: Ballmer no Brasil: palestra na USP e encontro com ministro da educação [atualizado] | Global .::. Size~: 70.05 KBApr 28 23:55
schestowitzEwww.Apr 28 23:56
schestowitzCan they now send him to the Amazon?Apr 28 23:56
schestowitzTo hang out with his species on the branches?Apr 28 23:56
Agent-SmithEheheheh, to be visited by a malaria mosquitoApr 28 23:56
Agent-Smith;-)Apr 28 23:56
Agent-SmithAlthough our government is friendly to Linux and Open SourceApr 28 23:57
schestowitzMicrosoft is insulting Brazil.Apr 28 23:57
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2008/08/28/cnet-only-the-poor/Apr 28 23:57
TechrightsBotTitle: CNET Hypnosis: Only the Poor People of Brazil Might Want GNU/Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.06 KBApr 28 23:57
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schestowitzThere's also the OOXML crime in Brazil. http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+brazil&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GBApr 28 23:57
TechrightsBotTitle: site:techrights.org brazil - Google Search .::. Size~: 25.09 KBApr 28 23:57
schestowitz[23:57] <Agent-Smith> Although our government is friendly to Linux and Open SourceApr 28 23:58
schestowitzBut he isolates themApr 28 23:58
schestowitzThey find the corruptible onesApr 28 23:58
Agent-SmithThere's a lot of things yet to be done, to ditch M$ from our public institutionsApr 28 23:58
schestowitzThen use them like in NehamApr 28 23:58
schestowitz*NewhamApr 28 23:58
schestowitzLike this: http://techrights.org/2009/10/30/alex-brown-the-fox/Apr 28 23:58
TechrightsBotTitle: Alex Brown is Microsofts “Insider Friend, ‘the Fox’” | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.93 KBApr 28 23:58
schestowitzAgent-Smith: spread to Brazilians the knowledge of what happensApr 28 23:59
Agent-SmithI know Alex Brown and Jomar Silva argued a lot in Jomar's blogApr 28 23:59
schestowitzCounter the PR from Microsoft brazilApr 28 23:59
Agent-SmithWell, sad news isApr 28 23:59
schestowitzThere's also AlkalaiApr 28 23:59
Agent-SmithAvi Alkalay ???Apr 28 23:59
Agent-SmithWell...Apr 28 23:59
schestowitzBut he's on IBM's payroll, so he has to play niceApr 28 23:59
Agent-SmithI don't see him as active as Jomar SilvaApr 28 23:59

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