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schestowitz | What did she have to see in Paris? | May 09 00:00 |
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DaemonFC | usually it's in 1,000 pieces, overpriced, breaks after a few uses, requires replacement parts you can't get soon after, etc. | May 09 00:00 |
schestowitz | Could she not find photos of Eiffel Tower? | May 09 00:00 |
schestowitz | People feel compelled by fly to places | May 09 00:00 |
DaemonFC | I don't | May 09 00:00 |
schestowitz | The oil industry likes it | May 09 00:00 |
DaemonFC | Fly to Europe | May 09 00:00 |
DaemonFC | Get ripped off at every stop | May 09 00:00 |
schestowitz | Pushing the fantasy... the further you fly, the more people will envy you | May 09 00:00 |
DaemonFC | Then get mugged too | May 09 00:00 |
schestowitz | "Air miles" | May 09 00:00 |
DaemonFC | Creepy foreigners that point and stare and insult you in alanguage you don't understand | May 09 00:01 |
schestowitz | "Air miles"=how much of your life was wasted being glued to a chair without access to a fridge/phone | May 09 00:01 |
DaemonFC | come home and tell everyone how much you liked it there | May 09 00:01 |
schestowitz | "Look, honey, I got tan:" | May 09 00:02 |
DaemonFC | France is lucky they get so much tourism | May 09 00:02 |
schestowitz | That's what Brits bring home from vacations usually" | May 09 00:02 |
DaemonFC | they don't actually have much economy outside that | May 09 00:02 |
schestowitz | Some bring gists | May 09 00:02 |
schestowitz | *gifts | May 09 00:02 |
schestowitz | Europeans bring chocolates | May 09 00:02 |
schestowitz | The continental, I mean | May 09 00:02 |
DaemonFC | European chocolate, no thanks | May 09 00:02 |
DaemonFC | tastes like shit | May 09 00:02 |
schestowitz | Greece lost tourism | May 09 00:03 |
DaemonFC | the only chocolate I've had that's worse is Russian | May 09 00:03 |
schestowitz | The deaths in protests won't help | May 09 00:03 |
schestowitz | They 'took over' some archaeological sites too | May 09 00:03 |
DaemonFC | now, those rasperry or orange chocolate eggs you guys have aren't bad | May 09 00:03 |
schestowitz | RedChocolate(TM), the national brand | May 09 00:04 |
DaemonFC | the ones you whack and open | May 09 00:04 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: I don't eat chocolate | May 09 00:04 |
DaemonFC | or whatever those were, been a few years | May 09 00:04 |
schestowitz | Unless it's handed to me | May 09 00:04 |
DaemonFC | frozen chocolate cherries are still my favorite | May 09 00:05 |
schestowitz | Sugar bomb | May 09 00:05 |
DaemonFC | absolutely | May 09 00:05 |
schestowitz | Obsession with chocolate is almost as bad as addiction to stinky cheese | May 09 00:05 |
_goblin | Im obsessed with chocolate | May 09 00:06 |
_goblin | and proud | May 09 00:06 |
_goblin | not too keen on stinky cheese.... | May 09 00:06 |
schestowitz | That's the fat fetish | May 09 00:06 |
_goblin | probably | May 09 00:06 |
schestowitz | You know the myth about different parts of the mouth for different tastes? | May 09 00:06 |
schestowitz | Turns out to be utter lie... | May 09 00:06 |
_goblin | ah, I never heard it anyway... | May 09 00:07 |
_goblin | at the moment Im having a nice relationship with a Chocolate Orange | May 09 00:07 |
DaemonFC | my bathroom smells like fried chicken | May 09 00:07 |
_goblin | I wont ask. | May 09 00:07 |
DaemonFC | must be what the neighbor is eating | May 09 00:07 |
schestowitz | Today I heard a 'cast about the myth about the brain being under-utilised | May 09 00:07 |
_goblin | I think I have many examples of that from users who comment on my blog | May 09 00:08 |
schestowitz | "The 10% Brain Myth " http://theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcast.aspx?mid=2 | May 09 00:08 |
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DaemonFC | you mean the "We only use 10% of our brains" thing? | May 09 00:08 |
_goblin | Richard springs to mind...his brain certainly seems under utilised....judging by his comments. | May 09 00:08 |
schestowitz | Maybe it holds water | May 09 00:09 |
DaemonFC | typical of "professionals" who have no idea what that part of the brain is used for | May 09 00:09 |
schestowitz | But it's interesting the point about birth and head size | May 09 00:09 |
DaemonFC | It's just unused, there for shits and giggles | May 09 00:09 |
schestowitz | We can't grow our brain too much | May 09 00:09 |
schestowitz | As that would make delivery harder | May 09 00:09 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Evidence says that as humanoids evolved, our brains have gotten smalled each time | May 09 00:10 |
schestowitz | Thus higher risk of child mortality or patent's death, so DNA won't propagate after birth | May 09 00:10 |
DaemonFC | suggesting that they are becoming more efficient for the size | May 09 00:10 |
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DaemonFC | *smaller | May 09 00:10 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: we're 45mm now :-) | May 09 00:10 |
DaemonFC | I don't know that there will be a next major evolution of humans | May 09 00:11 |
DaemonFC | at least not a natural one | May 09 00:11 |
DaemonFC | we'll engineer ourselves | May 09 00:11 |
schestowitz | WTH? http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/Kramer_6.8_3.jpg | May 09 00:11 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: THe future will be much like Gattaca | May 09 00:12 |
DaemonFC | that's my opinion | May 09 00:12 |
DaemonFC | humans tailored towards their parents specifications, natural born humans being second class citizens... | May 09 00:13 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Not at Reptile. Ill. @arkadyrose is too. Freda is of course full of energy. Killlll meeeeeeee. | May 09 00:13 | |
schestowitz | http://tycheent.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/notice-of-resignation/ | May 09 00:13 |
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schestowitz | ender2070: http://blog.binarylooks.com/2010/05/plasma-media-center-status-report-and-introduction/ | May 09 00:23 |
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schestowitz | http://gizmodo.com/5530625/nvidias-fermi-graphics-card-roadmap-when-you-can-melt-your-eyeballs-for-cheaper | May 09 00:33 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @rejon: Facebook Joins Microsoft’s War on ODF http://ping.fm/ADdt7 | May 09 00:40 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @rejon: Why build on StatusNet http://ping.fm/MJ9A7 | May 09 00:41 | |
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schestowitz | http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/04/29/the-end-of-microsoft-a-door-opens-to-a-new-cloud/ | May 09 00:44 |
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schestowitz | Ouch | May 09 00:44 |
schestowitz | http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-games-dont-get-ported-to-linuxa.html | May 09 00:47 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Iron Man 2 wasn't that great but I loved the Black Widow and the Thor and Captain America teasers ! | May 09 00:47 | |
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schestowitz | Google fanboy: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-can-i-do-to-get-interview-at.html | May 09 01:01 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] David Hammerstein's (former MEP) Web site appears to have just been cracked. see for example http://ur1.ca/zqlu | May 09 01:07 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/06/michigan-school-blacks-class-trip-principal-investigated/ | May 09 01:14 |
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DaemonFC | heh | May 09 01:14 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Windows zombies are hammering on the server, again making it unavailable for real visitors #botnets #malware | May 09 01:16 | |
schestowitz | Google fanboy: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-can-i-do-to-get-interview-at.html "I'd say Linux is a great alternative to paying for a Windows upgrade on an older computer. On a new one, not so much. " | May 09 01:18 |
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schestowitz | tessier: ping | May 09 01:25 |
_goblin | don't you mean "Bing" ;) | May 09 01:26 |
schestowitz | http://www.stanforddaily.com/2010/05/04/man-struck-by-caltrain-in-fifth-death-this-year/ | May 09 01:27 |
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DaemonFC | I may go hack the top off one of the trees in my yard | May 09 01:32 |
DaemonFC | se if that stops the bit of ghosting I see when the wind is blowing | May 09 01:32 |
DaemonFC | :P | May 09 01:32 |
schestowitz | It's a bt | May 09 01:33 |
schestowitz | *bot | May 09 01:33 |
schestowitz | "(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0/1.0 (bot; http://)"" | May 09 01:33 |
schestowitz | Piece of junk | May 09 01:33 |
schestowitz | tessier: are you around? | May 09 01:34 |
tessier | Yes | May 09 01:37 |
tessier | What's up? | May 09 01:37 |
schestowitz | tessier: there's some bot on the logs | May 09 01:45 |
schestowitz | I can't block it by IP | May 09 01:45 |
schestowitz | Unless there are some tricks | May 09 01:45 |
schestowitz | It seems to have gone by now (minutes ago), maybe you drove it away | May 09 01:46 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "To save baby rhino Bunty having an identity crisis, Hamilton DJ Mark Bunting is backing the name Ubuntu." http://ur1.ca/zqri | May 09 01:47 | |
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DaemonFC | I got some RCA to 3.5mm cables | May 09 01:50 |
DaemonFC | hooked up my TV to my really expensive PC speakers *grin* | May 09 01:50 |
DaemonFC | what's weird is that Walmart doesn't carry those cables | May 09 01:52 |
DaemonFC | :P | May 09 01:52 |
schestowitz | http://www.neowin.net/profile/benjamin_rubenstein "He currently holds a few Microsoft Certifications" | May 09 01:53 |
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schestowitz | By Benjamin Rubenstein http://www.neowin.net/news/ubuntu-1004-bug-causing-firefox-crashes | May 09 01:53 |
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schestowitz | As you'd expec | May 09 01:53 |
schestowitz | _goblin: check out newWIN | May 09 01:53 |
schestowitz | *neoWIN | May 09 01:53 |
schestowitz | "Unbiased" reporting, as expected | May 09 01:53 |
DaemonFC | like Paul Thurrot? | May 09 01:54 |
DaemonFC | he's about asfair and balanced as Bill O'Reilly | May 09 01:54 |
_goblin | Its not surprise then that Andre Da Costa is tweeting about "claimed" issued with Ubuntu. | May 09 01:54 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: "we report the news, you decide" | May 09 01:54 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/extreme-fear/201005/top-10-secrets-effective-liars | May 09 01:54 |
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DaemonFC | we distort, you think you decide | May 09 01:54 |
DaemonFC | fairly unbalanced | May 09 01:54 |
DaemonFC | :) | May 09 01:54 |
schestowitz | _goblin: they try it just to break it | May 09 01:55 |
schestowitz | But they make it seem like they try it because they are unbiased | May 09 01:55 |
_goblin | Andre hasn't said what his problem is.....just that he's using terminal at the moment to sort it out. | May 09 01:56 |
_goblin | of course it was obvious Andre would have issues with anything other than Microsoft products.... | May 09 01:56 |
schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jamies-random-musings-10006480/removing-mono-from-ubuntu-1004-10015668/ *LOL* "It's best to keep it installed. Mono is an excellent runtime client; especially when compared to that Java mess. If only Open Office was built on Mono instead of Java." | May 09 01:56 |
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_goblin | thats a thought.... | May 09 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: erm | May 09 01:57 |
_goblin | OO built on Mono..... | May 09 01:57 |
tessier | Some bot on the logs? I don't understand what you mean. | May 09 01:57 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: DirecTV goes Fox News, Fox Business, Jesus channels, Hardcore porn in that order | May 09 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | I... I..... I don't even know where to go with that | May 09 01:57 |
DaemonFC | lmao | May 09 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | its just | May 09 01:57 |
DaemonFC | :D | May 09 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | its just mind blowing | May 09 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | how the hell do you even _arrive_ there | May 09 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | its just | May 09 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | wow | May 09 01:57 |
schestowitz | by "chessnuts " | May 09 01:57 |
DaemonFC | is that order a coincidence? | May 09 01:57 |
schestowitz | chestnuts? | May 09 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | very rarely does something that fucking ignorant can make me stand in awe | May 09 01:58 |
Diablo-D3 | a java troll and a OOo troll in the same line | May 09 01:58 |
schestowitz | Fidelinux : "chessnuts " | May 09 01:58 |
Diablo-D3 | while wrapped in a pro-mono troll | May 09 01:58 |
schestowitz | " | May 09 01:58 |
schestowitz | Would you like sharing with us what is the alternative you like better than F-Spot? | May 09 01:58 |
schestowitz | Thanks | May 09 01:58 |
schestowitz | " | May 09 01:58 |
Diablo-D3 | how the fuck do you even use f-spot | May 09 01:58 |
Diablo-D3 | I tried using it once, and it kept trying to make me add an "album" | May 09 01:58 |
Diablo-D3 | I just want to fucking view images | May 09 01:58 |
schestowitz | use gwenview then | May 09 01:59 |
Diablo-D3 | no, geeqie | May 09 01:59 |
schestowitz | what's dat? | May 09 01:59 |
MinceR | a fork of gqview | May 09 01:59 |
MinceR | iirc | May 09 01:59 |
Diablo-D3 | remember kde3's gwenview? | May 09 01:59 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not quite a fork | May 09 01:59 |
Diablo-D3 | the original author abandoned gqview | May 09 01:59 |
schestowitz | so that's where he views his anime.. | May 09 01:59 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: remember how kde3's gwenview was so much better than kde4's? | May 09 02:00 |
Diablo-D3 | thats what geeqie is, but in gtk instead | May 09 02:00 |
MinceR | does geeqie play animated gifs already? | May 09 02:01 |
Diablo-D3 | no | May 09 02:01 |
Diablo-D3 | btw | May 09 02:01 |
Diablo-D3 | as much as I hate kde | May 09 02:01 |
MinceR | i still open those in gwenview :/ | May 09 02:01 |
Diablo-D3 | as much as I really fucking hate kde | May 09 02:01 |
Diablo-D3 | I may end up just switching to it. | May 09 02:01 |
MinceR | lol, pwnt | May 09 02:01 |
Diablo-D3 | I'm just tired of ... just... | May 09 02:02 |
Diablo-D3 | I don't know | May 09 02:02 |
Diablo-D3 | I mean, I use xfce | May 09 02:02 |
schestowitz | KDE 4.4 does nice GUI rendering | May 09 02:03 |
Diablo-D3 | debian's kde4 settings suck badly, btw | May 09 02:03 |
Diablo-D3 | I think thats partly why I hated it | May 09 02:03 |
schestowitz | gradients in metallic colours everywhere | May 09 02:03 |
Diablo-D3 | I tried fedora 12 kde and its actually quite nice | May 09 02:03 |
Diablo-D3 | so I should just copy their settings and be done with it | May 09 02:03 |
schestowitz | 4.3 had mostly uniform gray | May 09 02:03 |
schestowitz | http://www.neowin.net/profile/julio_franco | May 09 02:05 |
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schestowitz | http://www.thedailytechnews.com/spirit-jailbreak-for-ipad-iphone-and-ipod-touch-to-jb-or-not-to-jb-0281.html | May 09 02:06 |
schestowitz | "When you jailbreaked your iDevices you can do lots of things like in Ubuntu just click the thing you want and it will arrive." | May 09 02:06 |
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MinceR | gn | May 09 02:13 |
DaemonFC | shouldn't need to jailbreak anything | May 09 02:19 |
DaemonFC | jailbreaking something means it was already broken | May 09 02:19 |
MinceR | it also means you lose the warranty | May 09 02:23 |
MinceR | and that it might be bricked by the next software update | May 09 02:24 |
DaemonFC | they go out of the way to brick modded devices | May 09 02:24 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @migueldeicaza: Impressed by the depth and volume of work in the sampled chicken noises industry. | May 09 02:50 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 | May 09 02:50 |
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DaemonFC | :) | May 09 02:50 |
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Diablo-D3 | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/inside_the_mind_of_the_enemy_the_business_analyst | May 09 04:15 |
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Diablo-D3 | wow | May 09 04:15 |
Diablo-D3 | I forgot I wrote this | May 09 04:15 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] How to behave at a software company : #interesting http://ask.slashdot.org/story/10/05/09/021237/How-To-Behave-At-a-Software-Company | May 09 04:52 | |
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ender2070 | how come nobody takes about digikam | May 09 05:35 |
ender2070 | LOL | May 09 05:35 |
ender2070 | waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than fspot | May 09 05:36 |
tessier | Bill Gates is on Fox Business with Warren Buffet right now | May 09 05:38 |
ender2070 | http://www.the-source.com/2010/04/my-theory-what-you-dont-say-says-a-lot/#comment-781 | May 09 05:55 |
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ender2070 | hopefully i linked directly to the comment properly | May 09 05:55 |
ender2070 | looks like someone is FUDing techrights already | May 09 05:55 |
ender2070 | "I realized this after reading your blog entry, which is well written and doesn’t sound like an open source jighad. Before this every time i red techrights.org, it sounded to me just like someone really upset with open-source wrote crazy stuff. Now i can see the real danger of all this." | May 09 05:56 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2010-05-06-editorial06_ST_N.htm | May 09 07:42 |
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schestowitz | ender2070: yeah, Miguel's supporters | May 09 07:50 |
schestowitz | tessier: : Buffet became very unpopular last week when he stubbornly defended corrupt bankers because it's good for his hedge fund | May 09 07:52 |
tessier | I agree with him. A lot of the people criticizing him don't understand the idea behind buying insurance. | May 09 07:54 |
tessier | Just because I have life insurance for my wife doesn't mean I want her to die or that I am betting for it. | May 09 07:54 |
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schestowitz | tessier: this seems to be about a different topic | May 09 08:05 |
schestowitz | I wouldn't argue against insurance | May 09 08:05 |
tessier | But that is what hedging is. | May 09 08:06 |
schestowitz | Frankly, I know too little about his professional life, but all I'm saying is that many blogs said nasty things about him after he defended Goldman Sachs (amid the fraud lawsuit) | May 09 08:06 |
tessier | The real problem here is that there were no laws against buying CDO's and insuring against them by investing in hedges. | May 09 08:06 |
tessier | I know. And I suspect those blogs don't really understand what they were really doing. | May 09 08:07 |
schestowitz | The real problematic rich people are folks like Slim | May 09 08:07 |
schestowitz | tessier: this one I found minutes ago: http://greatschoolsforamerica.org/wordpress/?p=97 | May 09 08:08 |
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schestowitz | There's a new book on the subject | May 09 08:08 |
schestowitz | Ravicher criticises Gates for taking over the system | May 09 08:08 |
schestowitz | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011818874_profiling09m.html "A former corporate vice president at Microsoft and now a chief technology officer at a Bellevue software company, Khaki said he was harassed and stopped every time he returned to the U.S. between 2007 and 2009." | May 09 08:13 |
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schestowitz | tessier: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63R4BF20100428 | May 09 08:32 |
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schestowitz | http://www.omaha.com/article/20100501/MONEY/705019973 | May 09 08:53 |
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schestowitz | tessier: this must be the interview you watched: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Bill-Gates-Suggests-Microsoft-Tablet-Projects-in-Works-647891/ | May 09 09:13 |
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schestowitz | http://www.themarknews.com/articles/1449-warren-buffett-private-profit-and-social-good | May 09 09:25 |
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schestowitz | "Nowhere was that more evident than at this weekend’s Berkshire Hathaway annual general meeting, otherwise known as the “Woodstock for Capitalists.”" | May 09 09:25 |
schestowitz | "Chips" knows his business better | May 09 09:25 |
schestowitz | Why does this say "correct" rather than "correction"? http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-29/microsoft-says-google-s-android-may-infringe-patents-correct-.html | May 09 09:41 |
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schestowitz | Maureen O'Gara celebrates http://dotnet.sys-con.com/node/1379231 | May 09 09:42 |
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schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63R11V20100428 | May 09 09:43 |
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schestowitz | Around the same time as the deal | May 09 09:43 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Arunuik: http://tinyurl.com/couo5w so #fb blocks msgs, & reads mails, nt new. frinds accnt got banned 4 sending "blocked content" #drm | May 09 09:46 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] 2nd time on Ubuntu, text became garbled system wide out of the blue, again reboot solved the problem, never had this trouble before Lucid | May 09 09:56 | |
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cubezzz | I still like KDE 3.4.2 better than anything else | May 09 10:00 |
cubezzz | runs good on old hardware | May 09 10:00 |
cubezzz | it just does the job | May 09 10:01 |
amarsh04 | I found an interesting bug with kdm 3.5.9/10 - it was un-mounting /boot on logout | May 09 10:01 |
amarsh04 | not any other filesystems though | May 09 10:03 |
cubezzz | I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen on mine | May 09 10:04 |
amarsh04 | you have a separate /boot partition, cubezzz? | May 09 10:04 |
cubezzz | ah, no :) | May 09 10:05 |
cubezzz | I don't | May 09 10:05 |
cubezzz | I'd like to find the 3.4.2 source though | May 09 10:09 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Typical Sunday: Went to Church, Blurp! Had a Good lunch , Zipped some pepsi , Now it is time for siesta :) | May 09 10:17 | |
amarsh04 | just a moment, debian may have it archived | May 09 10:20 |
amarsh04 | try http://snapshot.debian.org/ | May 09 10:21 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] If we do not get PR for the next general election, all these negotiations will not matter a bit in the long run #dontdoitnick | May 09 10:31 | |
cubezzz | everybody has 3.5.10 | May 09 10:37 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've just started a page on Microsoft and counterfeiting http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_counterfeiting | May 09 10:37 | |
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MinceR | geekings | May 09 10:39 |
cubezzz | no one has older kde source? | May 09 10:41 |
cubezzz | maybe I have it somewhere | May 09 10:41 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Fascinating application of an an intuitively ludicrous phenomenon http://is.gd/c15Gr | May 09 10:57 | |
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cubezzz | does anyone keep old linux source? | May 09 11:03 |
cubezzz | e.g. fc1 all the source on one DVD? | May 09 11:03 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] There is little evidence software patents are stimulating any kind of innovation whatsoever: http://ur1.ca/zt2y | May 09 11:03 | |
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cubezzz | or would it be bigger than just one disc? | May 09 11:03 |
oiaohm | fc1 is 1 disc. But I cleared out my collection. cubezzz | May 09 11:09 |
oiaohm | Ie the source is 1 disk cubezzz | May 09 11:09 |
schestowitz | http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/technology/100284706-1-us-stocks-wall-st-buoyed-home.html | May 09 11:11 |
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schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/are-ubuntu-users-covered-by-h264-license-it-depends/8228 | May 09 11:13 |
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schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/04/29/microsoft-to-get-20-to-40-from-every-htc-android-phone-sold/ | May 09 11:13 |
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cubezzz | well at least I have the yarrow srpms | May 09 11:19 |
cubezzz | looks like about 1.5 gigs | May 09 11:20 |
cubezzz | I'll stick yggdrasil on there while I'm at it | May 09 11:22 |
oiaohm | If its 20 to 40 is more than what MS would get for CE on the phone schestowitz | May 09 11:33 |
zoobab | MPEGLA should ask for a royalty on each Ubuntu download | May 09 11:34 |
zoobab | at some point maximising the harm is the only way to go | May 09 11:34 |
oiaohm | I want to see Nokia and Intel to go talk to MPEGLA Very bluntly. | May 09 11:36 |
oiaohm | Ie Licence open source or don't exist kind of talk. | May 09 11:36 |
cubezzz | putting "Basic Linux" on my 486 | May 09 11:44 |
cubezzz | linux 2.2 kernel :) | May 09 11:45 |
cubezzz | this is really just an experiment | May 09 11:46 |
schestowitz | zoobab: Nokia is still Microsoft's buddy | May 09 11:46 |
schestowitz | http://ub-news.com/news/microsoft-introduced-communicator-mobile-for-nokia-devices/11533.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10098930.stm | May 09 11:46 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] If a user downloads Ubuntu and installs it themselves, then no MPEG-LA license is included: http://ur1.ca/ztaj | May 09 11:54 | |
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cubezzz | anyone remember how to format a 1.44 dos disk? :) | May 09 11:55 |
cubezzz | ah, it's just mformat a: | May 09 11:56 |
cubezzz | it's been a while :) | May 09 11:56 |
cubezzz | time to finally get rid of win95 on this clunker | May 09 11:57 |
cubezzz | assuming the floppy drive still works | May 09 11:58 |
oiaohm | Notice schestowitz Symbian only. Its still war of war. | May 09 12:05 |
schestowitz | I see... | May 09 12:16 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] "Patent Law for Computer Scientists", a book written by EPO examiners Closa, Gardiner, Giesma and Machek http://ur1.ca/ztfl | May 09 12:25 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.rbr.com/media-news/advertising/23859.html | May 09 12:29 |
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schestowitz | Good for those who speak to dumb people who click ads | May 09 12:29 |
schestowitz | zoobab: computer science is also hardware | May 09 12:29 |
schestowitz | See if the book covers software......? | May 09 12:30 |
schestowitz | "Using the EPO-style interpretation of the word 'for', it seems to be also very suitable for European patent attorneys with an interest in the field of computer-implemented inventions, and particularly well suited for US attorneys who might like to think beyond the requirements of the US system when preparing their applications for being filed internationally." | May 09 12:30 |
schestowitz | http://247wallst.com/2010/04/27/will-rims-new-operating-system-save-it-market-share/ | May 09 12:34 |
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oiaohm | Do you remember the lesson of RTF | May 09 12:37 |
cubezzz | ok this is weird | May 09 12:38 |
cubezzz | the 486 is formatting some disks much faster than others | May 09 12:38 |
cubezzz | these other disks must be all bad :-/ | May 09 12:39 |
cubezzz | its like they are really DD disks instead of HD | May 09 12:39 |
oiaohm | Is the light lock blocked? | May 09 12:39 |
cubezzz | nope | May 09 12:40 |
oiaohm | Also make sure you are formating as 144 on all. | May 09 12:41 |
cubezzz | well the drive could be dirty | May 09 12:41 |
oiaohm | I have had drives with suspect led as well. | May 09 12:41 |
oiaohm | Ie sometimes on sometime off. | May 09 12:41 |
oiaohm | Meaning disk gets randomally treated as either 1.44 or 720 | May 09 12:41 |
cubezzz | well I'm doing dd if=disk1.img of=/dev/fd0 | May 09 12:42 |
oiaohm | http://durian.blender.org/news/f12s/#comments | May 09 12:45 |
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cubezzz | I can't believe all my disks are bad | May 09 12:46 |
amarsh04 | floppy drives die easily also | May 09 12:48 |
oiaohm | How old are they. | May 09 12:48 |
cubezzz | win2000 era I think | May 09 12:49 |
cubezzz | so 10 years old | May 09 12:49 |
oiaohm | Ok stuffed | May 09 12:49 |
oiaohm | The surface material fails at about 7 years old on most brands. cubezzz | May 09 12:50 |
cubezzz | ah | May 09 12:50 |
cubezzz | that would explain it | May 09 12:50 |
cubezzz | odd, I have some VHS tapes that are much older and they still work | May 09 12:51 |
oiaohm | Different matterial. | May 09 12:51 |
cubezzz | even some reel-to-reel stuff from the 60's | May 09 12:51 |
cubezzz | even CDR's last longer than 7 years | May 09 12:51 |
oiaohm | Some brands last longer as well. | May 09 12:51 |
oiaohm | CDR not exposed to light and stored right should be fine for about 50 to 100 years. | May 09 12:52 |
oiaohm | Lot of the materials used in floppys contain everything to destroy self. | May 09 12:52 |
oiaohm | Problem is the cleaning pad inside the disk when the surface becomes solventless basically fragments the surface off. cubezzz | May 09 12:53 |
cubezzz | ok so old amiga disks are probably toast too then | May 09 12:54 |
oiaohm | Now depends on the material of amiga disks. | May 09 12:54 |
cubezzz | they were DD though | May 09 12:54 |
oiaohm | Lot of DD were proper. | May 09 12:55 |
cubezzz | well now i either give up or get the cdrom working | May 09 12:55 |
oiaohm | HD were done to make volume. | May 09 12:55 |
oiaohm | Why are you needing a floppy. | May 09 12:56 |
cubezzz | well I was trying to put linux on this 486 | May 09 12:57 |
cubezzz | all I need is just one of these disks to work | May 09 12:58 |
oiaohm | Got either a boot from lan network card or a spare harddrive that works in the 486 to put smart boot manager or equal on. | May 09 12:59 |
oiaohm | Yes I have a boot from lan network card laying around for messing with those things. cubezzz | May 09 12:59 |
cubezzz | this computer has the oldest working hard drive I've ever seen | May 09 13:00 |
cubezzz | it's got to be at least 17 years old | May 09 13:01 |
oiaohm | Ok that is no where near the oldest I have ever seen and still works. | May 09 13:02 |
cubezzz | oh? :) | May 09 13:02 |
oiaohm | Clue 1 is only 20 megs. | May 09 13:02 |
oiaohm | Clue 2 is blue | May 09 13:02 |
oiaohm | Clue 3 its huge | May 09 13:03 |
cubezzz | ummm | May 09 13:03 |
cubezzz | let's say 28 years? | May 09 13:03 |
cubezzz | maybe not quite that old | May 09 13:03 |
oiaohm | And I do mean huge it is about 35 cm accross. | May 09 13:03 |
cubezzz | 25 years? | May 09 13:03 |
oiaohm | And it has 4 platters that size. | May 09 13:03 |
cubezzz | ok, maybe it's not PC :) | May 09 13:04 |
oiaohm | Yep 2.5 megs a side. | May 09 13:04 |
oiaohm | It is connectable to a PC these days. | May 09 13:04 |
oiaohm | And is used to run PC Dos for fun. | May 09 13:04 |
cubezzz | the oldest drives I can remember are winchester 5 meg drives | May 09 13:04 |
cubezzz | Radio Shack sold them | May 09 13:04 |
oiaohm | The one I am refering to dates from world war II | May 09 13:05 |
cubezzz | oh wow | May 09 13:05 |
cubezzz | that's way before my time | May 09 13:05 |
oiaohm | It has had a 3 replacement moters in that time. | May 09 13:05 |
oiaohm | But is on the same set of heads. | May 09 13:05 |
cubezzz | wait a sec though | May 09 13:05 |
cubezzz | wikipedia said that hard drives were invented in the 1950's | May 09 13:06 |
oiaohm | Hmm | May 09 13:06 |
oiaohm | School I was at had a lot of really old hardware. | May 09 13:07 |
oiaohm | Its a ibm harddrive basically really old by the 1970 they had 200 meg version. So somewhere in the 1950 to 1960~ | May 09 13:09 |
oiaohm | I was thinking for the output display our school had from a old crypt breaker that was world war 2. | May 09 13:10 |
cubezzz | invented December 14, 1954[ | May 09 13:10 |
cubezzz | IBM team led by Rey Johnson | May 09 13:11 |
cubezzz | how was it connected to the PC? | May 09 13:11 |
oiaohm | IBM conversion card for data recovery to ISA | May 09 13:12 |
oiaohm | By the way the system it is hooked to is a IBM XT computer. | May 09 13:12 |
cubezzz | I'm trying another 3.5" microfloppy drive | May 09 13:13 |
cubezzz | yeah I remember those | May 09 13:13 |
oiaohm | The distance the head flys above drive in that old one is funny. | May 09 13:14 |
oiaohm | You can almost pass a standard pen between drive plater and head. | May 09 13:14 |
cubezzz | ah, newer dd tells me more about errors | May 09 13:15 |
cubezzz | I can't believe it, every single disk was bad in some way | May 09 13:16 |
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Frodo | hey guys | May 09 13:16 |
Frodo | have you seen this? | May 09 13:16 |
Frodo | http://mhr3.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-about-c-applets-in-awn.html | May 09 13:17 |
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Frodo | MONO guys still spreading their poison in GNOME | May 09 13:17 |
Frodo | guess you guys aren't awake yet | May 09 13:18 |
*MinceR doesn't use gnome and recommends kde instead | May 09 13:19 | |
cubezzz | what are you talking about? I've been up since 3 am | May 09 13:19 |
Frodo | oh, heh | May 09 13:19 |
Frodo | sorry, it seemed so quiet in here | May 09 13:20 |
MinceR | :) | May 09 13:20 |
cubezzz | wow, I might finally have a working disk here | May 09 13:20 |
oiaohm | Mono poison in gnome kinda not supprising any more Frodo | May 09 13:20 |
Frodo | I prefer GNOME over KDE | May 09 13:20 |
cubezzz | w00t! | May 09 13:20 |
cubezzz | oiaohm, one of the disks worked :) | May 09 13:20 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Roughly a third of all applications (and granted patents) relate, in one way or another, to a computer or software: http://ur1.ca/ztnu | May 09 13:20 | |
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oiaohm | What brand cubezzz? | May 09 13:20 |
cubezzz | no idea :) | May 09 13:21 |
Frodo | what distro do you guys use? | May 09 13:21 |
cubezzz | dude I use the best distro ever | May 09 13:21 |
MinceR | kubuntu, but planning to switch to fedora | May 09 13:21 |
cubezzz | right now I'm using basic linux :) | May 09 13:22 |
oiaohm | I could be warped and say mind asking a simpler question. Currently the system I am on has a debian core made up of stable testing and sid debain. With Ubuntu gentoo fedora quite a other forms in chroots. | May 09 13:23 |
cubezzz | ok, really I use FC1 | May 09 13:23 |
cubezzz | and I'm probably the only one who does | May 09 13:23 |
oiaohm | Basically my system is kinda a beast. Frodo | May 09 13:23 |
Frodo | oiaohm :) | May 09 13:24 |
cubezzz | oiaohm using World War II technology | May 09 13:24 |
cubezzz | it's the most reliable | May 09 13:24 |
oiaohm | If you don't mind the power bill yes. cubezzz | May 09 13:24 |
Frodo | anyone else here a student? | May 09 13:25 |
cubezzz | not since several decades Frodo | May 09 13:25 |
oiaohm | Depends of what. | May 09 13:26 |
oiaohm | I currently have to do some exams again. | May 09 13:26 |
oiaohm | To keep certifications. | May 09 13:26 |
Frodo | cubezzz ah, what do you do now? | May 09 13:26 |
Frodo | which certifications, oiaohm? | May 09 13:26 |
cubezzz | I'm a computer consultant mainly | May 09 13:26 |
Frodo | ah cool | May 09 13:27 |
oiaohm | Working in school and uni systems. | May 09 13:27 |
oiaohm | And I have to redo my cablers and my trainer quals as well. | May 09 13:27 |
Frodo | ic | May 09 13:28 |
oiaohm | I am the BOFH in those networks Frodo | May 09 13:29 |
Frodo | heh | May 09 13:30 |
oiaohm | Some students hate me. For good reason. Playing games when they should not. I just walk up behind them let them change screen then have screen shot of what they were doing jam on screen. | May 09 13:30 |
oiaohm | With suspend accout over the top. | May 09 13:30 |
cubezzz | heh | May 09 13:31 |
Frodo | not allowed to play video games? | May 09 13:31 |
oiaohm | Not on systems intending for searching for books and the like. | May 09 13:31 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] #poll: how long have you been using !linux? :) me 10.5 years | May 09 13:31 | |
Frodo | ah, so this isn't a computer lab? | May 09 13:32 |
oiaohm | Some computer labs video game playing is forbin. | May 09 13:32 |
Frodo | ok | May 09 13:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] #poll: how long have you been using #linux? :) me 10.5 years | May 09 13:32 | |
oiaohm | The one used for movie rendering particularly. | May 09 13:32 |
oiaohm | yes transpartent cluster. | May 09 13:33 |
Frodo | makes sense | May 09 13:33 |
MinceR | when i played in the lab while it was forbidden, we could hide it pretty well :> | May 09 13:33 |
MinceR | i replaced the icon and the window caption in winquake.exe so it wouldn't be noticed on the taskbar when the game was minimized :> | May 09 13:33 |
oiaohm | Not against some of this stuff. | May 09 13:34 |
Frodo | wouldn't you guys run linux on the movie rendering lab? | May 09 13:34 |
MinceR | i was at school when that happened | May 09 13:34 |
MinceR | i'm not sure if they're aware of gnu/linux now | May 09 13:34 |
oiaohm | Depends on the school Frodo | May 09 13:34 |
Frodo | I meant your school | May 09 13:35 |
oiaohm | I don't just look after 1 school Frodo | May 09 13:35 |
MinceR | http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l25h78F26Z1qztwn4o1_500.jpg | May 09 13:35 |
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Frodo | oh | May 09 13:35 |
Frodo | how many? | May 09 13:35 |
oiaohm | Currently 4. | May 09 13:35 |
oiaohm | Then I have business on top of that I take care of. | May 09 13:36 |
Frodo | oh, what kind of business? | May 09 13:36 |
oiaohm | businesses | May 09 13:36 |
cubezzz | well, I got basic linux installed | May 09 13:36 |
Frodo | you seem to have a lot going on :) | May 09 13:36 |
oiaohm | Mixture of stuff. | May 09 13:36 |
cubezzz | wow, it's smaller than DLS | May 09 13:36 |
oiaohm | Most looks after itself Frodo | May 09 13:37 |
Frodo | ah | May 09 13:37 |
cubezzz | oiaohm is making his own portable comupter in his spare time :) | May 09 13:37 |
Frodo | wow | May 09 13:37 |
MinceR | if you can call a computer with a 19" screen "portable", that is :> | May 09 13:38 |
Frodo | haha | May 09 13:38 |
MinceR | i have enough trouble with my 17" thinkpad :> | May 09 13:38 |
oiaohm | I am looking at a transport case design. | May 09 13:38 |
Frodo | I have a 14" thinkpad I got when I was in high school | May 09 13:38 |
oiaohm | Basically labtop that most of you young people don't know what it is. | May 09 13:39 |
*MinceR is young and doesn't know | May 09 13:39 | |
Frodo | it's almost dead tho | May 09 13:39 |
MinceR | though i have seen the transport case | May 09 13:39 |
oiaohm | That make great test machines. | May 09 13:40 |
oiaohm | And lot stronger than a normal laptop. | May 09 13:40 |
cubezzz | installing old linux isn't too simple | May 09 13:40 |
oiaohm | labtop computer precursors to laptops. | May 09 13:41 |
oiaohm | The ones that need to be put on tables because they were too heavy for lap. MinceR | May 09 13:41 |
Frodo | sorry for change of topic, but wondering why GNOME and Ubuntu for example don't listen to you guys about MONO and stuff | May 09 13:41 |
cubezzz | no one listens to anyone :) | May 09 13:41 |
Frodo | heh | May 09 13:41 |
Frodo | well, *I* listen :) | May 09 13:41 |
oiaohm | Ubuntu mainatiners listern to no one about anything. | May 09 13:41 |
oiaohm | I do support for people using winehq. | May 09 13:42 |
cubezzz | what I do it's revert to older versions than do not have the problem | May 09 13:42 |
MinceR | Frodo: they might have a novellish agenda | May 09 13:42 |
MinceR | there were a lot of suspicious steps recently | May 09 13:42 |
oiaohm | Try telling ubuntu maintainers not to back port parituclar patches because it will break stuff. | May 09 13:42 |
Frodo | what do you mean novellish agenda? | May 09 13:42 |
oiaohm | Its like talking to a brick wall. Frodo | May 09 13:42 |
Frodo | you mean like getting a patent deal with M$? | May 09 13:42 |
MinceR | snuggling up to m$ and living off their money | May 09 13:42 |
MinceR | and helping their schemes | May 09 13:42 |
oiaohm | I just hope Meego takes off. | May 09 13:43 |
oiaohm | Then we can watch MS scream in pain. | May 09 13:43 |
Frodo | isn't meego based on suse? | May 09 13:43 |
Frodo | someone told me it was | May 09 13:43 |
oiaohm | Nop Frodo | May 09 13:43 |
Frodo | ok | May 09 13:43 |
oiaohm | Meego is based on nothing. | May 09 13:43 |
oiaohm | Its a new distribution. | May 09 13:43 |
Frodo | oh I didn't know | May 09 13:43 |
Frodo | cool | May 09 13:44 |
oiaohm | Its a merge of two distributions one by nokia one by intel. | May 09 13:44 |
oiaohm | Nokia one used to be based on debian. | May 09 13:44 |
oiaohm | Intels used to be based on Fedora's. | May 09 13:44 |
oiaohm | New one is a rebuild without either branch. Frodo | May 09 13:45 |
Frodo | interesting | May 09 13:45 |
Frodo | thanks for the info | May 09 13:45 |
Frodo | when are they going to release meego? | May 09 13:45 |
oiaohm | meego is targeting all markets | May 09 13:45 |
oiaohm | And board is part of the Linux foundation. | May 09 13:45 |
oiaohm | Yes Linux Foundation is going to have its own distribution. | May 09 13:46 |
Frodo | awesome | May 09 13:46 |
Frodo | they have their own ui too right? | May 09 13:46 |
Frodo | like they don't use gnome or anything | May 09 13:46 |
oiaohm | UI QT | May 09 13:46 |
MinceR | have they moved fully to Qt already? | May 09 13:46 |
Frodo | heh, I bet that means no MONO :) | May 09 13:46 |
MinceR | or a mix of Qt and Hildonized GTK+ apps? | May 09 13:46 |
oiaohm | GTK is only for old applications. | May 09 13:47 |
MinceR | then again, Moblin came with Clutter or something. | May 09 13:47 |
MinceR | ic | May 09 13:47 |
oiaohm | GTK is tagged as deprecated under meego | May 09 13:47 |
Frodo | do you think meego will become more popular than ubuntu? | May 09 13:48 |
oiaohm | Also both intel and nokia promise to protect anyone using meego with there full patent list. | May 09 13:48 |
Frodo | wow nice | May 09 13:48 |
oiaohm | Basically try to make a patent claim against meego be read for a MAD attack. | May 09 13:48 |
Frodo | can't wait till it is released | May 09 13:49 |
oiaohm | Meego takes off the computer open source game against patents change. | May 09 13:49 |
oiaohm | Also meego is also going to end up intergated in other distributions as well. | May 09 13:49 |
oiaohm | Linux world is changing fast. Frodo | May 09 13:49 |
MinceR | what qualifies as "using meego" for purposes of patent protection? | May 09 13:49 |
Frodo | thanks for the info guys | May 09 13:50 |
oiaohm | Using any part the same as what as in meego and someone trys to patent attack it. qualifies MinceR | May 09 13:50 |
Frodo | I gotta get going, meeting some friends for breakfast | May 09 13:50 |
Frodo | take care | May 09 13:51 |
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MinceR | oiaohm: so can all distros copy code from meego (that they likely already use, i.e. glibc) and gain this protection? | May 09 13:52 |
oiaohm | Yep MinceR | May 09 13:53 |
oiaohm | Reason why the Nokia Intel protection deal is scary for patent holders. | May 09 13:54 |
MinceR | nice. | May 09 13:54 |
MinceR | i wonder when will all distros take advantage of this. | May 09 13:54 |
MinceR | time to shut m$ and novell up. | May 09 13:54 |
MinceR | and crApple. | May 09 13:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/fairuse-economy/? | May 09 13:55 |
TechrightsBot | Title: Study: Fair Use Contributes Trillions to U.S. Economy | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 76.62 KB | May 09 13:55 |
oiaohm | Basicaly its formed a single point of patent control for all of open source. | May 09 13:56 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst 10 years | May 09 14:01 | |
oiaohm | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/07/argument_switch_av_bypass/ Seen this schestowitz | May 09 14:02 |
TechrightsBot | Title: New attack bypasses virtually all AV protection • The Register .::. Size~: 34.71 KB | May 09 14:02 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Thieves are dumb. http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l25h78F26Z1qztwn4o1_500.jpg | May 09 14:02 | |
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schestowitz | I wrote abut it | May 09 14:02 |
schestowitz | I think | May 09 14:02 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: http://techrights.org/2010/05/08/win32-cannot-be-secured/ | May 09 14:03 |
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schestowitz | I have over 20 posts stacked up to post | May 09 14:03 |
oiaohm | It the classic once a unfriendly program runs all bets are off. | May 09 14:04 |
schestowitz | Who's Frodo? | May 09 14:05 |
schestowitz | ANyway, I missed that SWN/Mono attempt | May 09 14:05 |
oiaohm | Don't know schestowitz | May 09 14:06 |
oiaohm | Really the issue with Mono is one way wrappering. | May 09 14:07 |
oiaohm | As well as patents. | May 09 14:07 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz Not all thieves or other sorts of criminal are stupid, some are even pillars of national life. | May 09 14:11 | |
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cubezzz | well I did it | May 09 14:19 |
cubezzz | I got linux on the 486 | May 09 14:19 |
schestowitz | http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/05/sony_plans_to_take_on_the_microsoft_surface_with_its_atractable.html | May 09 14:20 |
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schestowitz | Linux based? | May 09 14:20 |
schestowitz | can anyone find out? | May 09 14:20 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera the Big Thieves manage to even portray themselves as national heroes | May 09 14:21 | |
cubezzz | well it looks a bit like a modified HD TV | May 09 14:27 |
cubezzz | and we know that Sony uses Linux on their HD TVs | May 09 14:27 |
schestowitz | http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Microsoft-Surface-AtracSys-atracTable,10337.html | May 09 14:28 |
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schestowitz | This too | May 09 14:28 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: but can we confirm? | May 09 14:29 |
schestowitz | Bear in mind that Surface ripped off Linux-based predecessors | May 09 14:29 |
schestowitz | Several researchers had it running on Linux | May 09 14:29 |
cubezzz | probably it's Linux, it would be easier for them | May 09 14:29 |
cubezzz | I'm not 100% certain of course | May 09 14:29 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Finishing off some UDS preparation ready for the big event which kicks off tomorrow! :-) #ubuntu | May 09 14:30 | |
cubezzz | Atracsys developed it, Sony bought it | May 09 14:31 |
cubezzz | a European company | May 09 14:31 |
cubezzz | look at their job offers :) | May 09 14:33 |
cubezzz | keep in mind that SOny doesn't trumpet it's Linux TVs, they are just called TVs | May 09 14:35 |
schestowitz | Yeah, I know... | May 09 14:44 |
schestowitz | But either way, none of it is free | May 09 14:44 |
schestowitz | Sony even axed Linux from PS3.... they just exploit Linux | May 09 14:44 |
MinceR | atracsys's job offers don't provide clues on the platform | May 09 14:48 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] You still on facebook? read this! http://alturl.com/b95m | May 09 14:57 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Laws for every occasion. Downing Street remains a public highway. Public access is instead denied by the use of common law. | May 09 14:57 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Looking at some native Linux titles for a feature on Openbytes! Theres so much great stuff about! www.openbytes.wordpress.com #linux #foss | May 09 15:00 | |
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cubezzz | schestowitz, I bet we see TV hacks eventually | May 09 15:19 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | In The Public Interest | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/3xton2v | May 09 15:36 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Starting my journey to the #ubuntu developer summit in Belgium. Car, train, taxi, eurostar, train, walk. | May 09 15:39 | |
cubezzz | are their laptops were you can change the video card? | May 09 15:41 |
cubezzz | I see these ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 on ebay | May 09 15:42 |
cubezzz | must be | May 09 15:47 |
MinceR | afaik they use standard pci-e -- but that's no guarantee for enough space for the new card (i don't know if that's standardized) nor for cooling (once again, i don't know about standardization and laptops tend to have built-in cooling systems) | May 09 15:49 |
cubezzz | looks quite different to me | May 09 15:52 |
cubezzz | let me see the back of one then I'll know what's up | May 09 15:53 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] 38degrees are after donations partly to pay for proportional representation campaign in UK press, please retweet this. http://is.gd/c1l26 | May 09 15:53 | |
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cubezzz | hmmm | May 09 15:55 |
cubezzz | MinceR, it looks like a pin-in-hole female connector on the card side | May 09 15:55 |
MinceR | ic | May 09 15:57 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Gurry (WIPO): "software and the worldwide disagreement on whether software should be patentable": http://ur1.ca/zulu | May 09 15:57 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Gurry (WIPO): "software, IT area is where I personally do my work and with the length of time it takes to get a patent" http://ur1.ca/zulu | May 09 15:58 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Gury: EU swpats blocking global harmonisation "I don’t think internationally yet because you can’t get it in Europe" http://ur1.ca/zulu | May 09 16:00 | |
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cubezzz | it's called the "Advanced eXpress I/O Module" | May 09 16:09 |
MinceR | ic. never heard of it... but i can see they've made that name up for the acronym. :> | May 09 16:10 |
cubezzz | yeah :) | May 09 16:11 |
cubezzz | my panasonic toughbook has a Radeon Mobility 7500 | May 09 16:13 |
cubezzz | maybe I can find a picture of it | May 09 16:14 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] On the train with @alanbelltolc comparing new toys. :) | May 09 16:19 | |
amarsh04 | I haven't actually seen a toughbook, but our electricity utility uses them | May 09 16:19 |
cubezzz | they are pretty good | May 09 16:20 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Szanowni Państwo! Przyszłość naszego regionu zależy od dobrego wyboru każdego z nas: http://www.bilski.pl/ | May 09 16:23 | |
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oiaohm | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100506/0206589317.shtml Define IP gone nuts this kinda does schestowitz | May 09 16:34 |
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Omar87 | Hi all. | May 09 16:39 |
amarsh04 | hi Omar87 | May 09 16:39 |
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_goblin | hello all | May 09 17:14 |
ender2070 | hi | May 09 17:14 |
_goblin | anything interesting happening? | May 09 17:15 |
_goblin | I'm currently running data on android. I never thought irc chat would work on a mobile phone | May 09 17:18 |
_goblin | *darairc not data | May 09 17:18 |
ender2070 | oh thats pretty cool | May 09 17:21 |
_goblin | DaraIRC is not a bad client either..... | May 09 17:26 |
MinceR | i have an ssh client on my phone :> | May 09 17:26 |
_goblin | its a shame HTC "Hadnt The Courage" when it came to refusing Microsoft | May 09 17:29 |
_goblin | I think the HTC hero is one of the best phones I've used | May 09 17:29 |
ender2070 | i have an ssh client on my phone too | May 09 17:30 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Sitting at St Pancras enjoying beer, nachos and free wifi. What more could a man need!? #fb | May 09 17:43 | |
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yuhong | http://www.pagetable.com/?p=333 | May 09 17:59 |
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cubezzz | the more you think about it, the more you realize that proprietary outnumbers standards | May 09 18:03 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: An article from @devangshudatta on UID and the lack of a legal framework around it. Worth reading: http://is.gd/c1r1r | May 09 18:03 | |
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cubezzz | think about laptops for example | May 09 18:03 |
cubezzz | heck, motherboards in general | May 09 18:08 |
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cubezzz | I'm leaning towards getting a Gigabyte M57SLI-S4 (with Radeon 9700 for video) | May 09 18:11 |
ender2070 | proprietary video | May 09 18:11 |
cubezzz | the video driver is open | May 09 18:12 |
cubezzz | don't think it would cost much to put a system together around it | May 09 18:13 |
cubezzz | or I could wait until one of the supported tyan's shows up on ebay | May 09 18:14 |
ender2070 | tyan amd boards? | May 09 18:14 |
cubezzz | or intel | May 09 18:15 |
cubezzz | something with dual cpu would be nice | May 09 18:16 |
amarsh04 | or just dual-core? | May 09 18:19 |
amarsh04 | or quad-core for that matter... | May 09 18:19 |
cubezzz | dual core sure | May 09 18:20 |
ender2070 | dont tell me ati is open because they let volunteers do all their work | May 09 18:24 |
schestowitz | http://www.zive.cz/clanky/majitele-playstationu-se-bouri-neberte-nam-linux/sc-3-a-152157/default.aspx "Otázkou zůstává, jestli bude nějakým způsobem dostupné i pro koncové zákazníky. Podporovanými distribucemi jsou Fedora, Linpus, Red Flag, Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop11, Ubuntu a Xandros." | May 09 18:28 |
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cubezzz | the specs must be open at least | May 09 18:28 |
schestowitz | All the news I can find re xandros in the past weeks (~13 days) is not in English | May 09 18:28 |
schestowitz | They are doomed for Linux | May 09 18:28 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] On this page I provide some of the content that has brought me to the conclusion that software patents are problematic: http://ur1.ca/zvd2 | May 09 18:28 | |
ender2070 | xandros was always doomed | May 09 18:28 |
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schestowitz | [15:19] <cubezzz> schestowitz, I bet we see TV hacks eventually | May 09 18:29 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin re "Looking at some native Linux titles for a feature on Openbytes!" How about Ryzom? | May 09 18:29 | |
schestowitz | That's why WIndows was avoided in Japan for TVS | May 09 18:29 |
schestowitz | *TVs (malware and viruses) | May 09 18:30 |
cubezzz | that would be funny | May 09 18:30 |
cubezzz | well not really :) | May 09 18:30 |
cubezzz | you really have to wonder about doze on ATM's though | May 09 18:31 |
cubezzz | ok, don't put Linux on 486SLC | May 09 18:32 |
cubezzz | the only thing good about it is low power consumption | May 09 18:33 |
ender2070 | schestowitz - i loves chromium | May 09 18:34 |
ender2070 | schestowitz - it asked me if i wanted to read that link in english | May 09 18:34 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] In 9 days I'm going to report that Rand Paul won his Kentucky Senate seat, remember to donate to his cause http://ur1.ca/i0mx | May 09 18:37 | |
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schestowitz | [16:34] <oiaohm> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100506/0206589317.shtml Define IP gone nuts this kinda does schestowitz | May 09 18:38 |
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schestowitz | I know he's gone, but anyway, we covered this article before | May 09 18:38 |
schestowitz | [17:29] <_goblin> its a shame HTC "Hadnt The Courage" when it came to refusing Microsoft | May 09 18:39 |
schestowitz | _goblin: Microsot tseems to have thratened to sue them | May 09 18:40 |
schestowitz | http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/04/29/microsoft-to-get-20-to-40-from-every-htc-android-phone-sold/ | May 09 18:40 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Eurostar leaving London. @daviey got on with 2 mins to spare. No exaggeration! He looks hot, and not in a good way :) | May 09 18:42 | |
schestowitz | [18:31] <cubezzz> you really have to wonder about doze on ATM's though | May 09 18:43 |
schestowitz | They get owned | May 09 18:43 |
schestowitz | See http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+atm&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GB | May 09 18:44 |
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schestowitz | [18:34] <ender2070> schestowitz - it asked me if i wanted to read that link in english | May 09 18:44 |
schestowitz | Google toolbar in Firefox does the same now | May 09 18:44 |
ender2070 | nice | May 09 18:44 |
schestowitz | Actually, it has this annoying thing now... | May 09 18:44 |
ender2070 | except chrome IS the google toolbar | May 09 18:44 |
schestowitz | If you open a new tab... | May 09 18:44 |
ender2070 | lol | May 09 18:44 |
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schestowitz | Then it uses a Chrome-like recently-visited pages thumbnail layout | May 09 18:45 |
schestowitz | It's annoying when you just want new tabs fast | May 09 18:45 |
schestowitz | it's like Google takes over the Firefox Web browser | May 09 18:45 |
schestowitz | Chromifiying it | May 09 18:45 |
schestowitz | All via the Google toolbat extension | May 09 18:45 |
schestowitz | *bar | May 09 18:45 |
ender2070 | LOL | May 09 18:45 |
schestowitz | The search bar phones Google as you type too | May 09 18:45 |
ender2070 | i never use their toolbar in firefox | May 09 18:46 |
schestowitz | So all the privacy violations of chrom[ium] pass to FF | May 09 18:46 |
ender2070 | the google tab is good enough for me | May 09 18:46 |
ender2070 | i dont know what people are worried about | May 09 18:47 |
ender2070 | anything you do unencrypted is readable by someone, somewhere | May 09 18:47 |
schestowitz | Heh. | May 09 18:48 |
schestowitz | My brother is giving a talk on FS | May 09 18:48 |
ender2070 | FS? | May 09 18:48 |
schestowitz | He though Reiser is pronounced ray-ser | May 09 18:48 |
schestowitz | ANd he didn't know about http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/04/reiser-guilty-o/ | May 09 18:48 |
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schestowitz | ender2070: yeah, EnvyFS | May 09 18:48 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay! @daviey brought us some #ubuntu CDs to look at on the train. The journey is sure to fly by now! | May 09 18:51 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO examiners: "Roughly a third of all applications (and granted patents) relate, in one way or another, to computers" http://ur1.ca/zvip | May 09 18:57 | |
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sebsebseb | Hi | May 09 19:03 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Gah! There is exactly one WiFi access point on this eurostar train. The essid os "daviey" :) | May 09 19:04 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @rrh "#poll: how long have you been using #linux? :)" I've been using !Debian for over a decade. | May 09 19:17 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ EPOexaminers 'Roughly a third of all applications and granted patents relate in one way or another to computers' http://ur1.ca/zvip | May 09 19:19 | |
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Omar87 | schestowitz, we'll be inviting Jan Wildeboer to attend the upcoming Tech Tuesday in Amman. | May 09 19:53 |
schestowitz | II have news from Jordan | May 09 19:54 |
schestowitz | Coming tomorrow | May 09 19:54 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: wb | May 09 19:54 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz It looks good but its only a 21 day free trial. Im looking more at the games where no payment is required. | May 09 19:58 | |
sebsebseb | hi schestowitz | May 09 19:59 |
sebsebseb | Jordan ? | May 09 19:59 |
schestowitz | it was @ Omar87 | May 09 20:01 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, great. | May 09 20:03 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, let's hope it's good news! :) | May 09 20:03 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] #WTF - W3C India website use image to display hindi text. http://www.w3cindia.in/Images/leading.gif -> http://www.w3cindia.in #w3c | May 09 20:06 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Theres another user ive introduced to Linux....everyone give @sawyerish a pat on the back and offer him any help....all the best sawyerish.. | May 09 20:09 | |
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schestowitz | Omar87: it's not | May 09 20:10 |
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schestowitz | _goblin: conn. issues? | May 09 20:11 |
_goblin | conn issues? | May 09 20:12 |
_goblin | If you mean connection issues, no.....I was over at my parents and was using my HTC to keep in touch on IRC....Im back home now so Ive reverted back to the desktop.....the marvels of modern Linux! | May 09 20:14 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Press here to start typing your message... | May 09 20:15 | |
_goblin | "Press any key" | May 09 20:16 |
_goblin | "Wheres the ANY key?" - Homer J Simpson | May 09 20:16 |
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schestowitz | China to rule the world...\? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJpYz9E26w&feature=digest | May 09 20:17 |
TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- We Need A Vision! (Howard Bloom Interview - Part 1) .::. Size~: 96.12 KB | May 09 20:17 |
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_goblin | " China to rule the world" - I thought the USA alleged they did. | May 09 20:19 |
schestowitz | I've just realised that Eric Lai vanished | May 09 20:19 |
schestowitz | Microsoft booster | May 09 20:19 |
MinceR | the megacorps do | May 09 20:19 |
schestowitz | WHose? | May 09 20:20 |
schestowitz | China? | May 09 20:20 |
schestowitz | Or US? | May 09 20:20 |
MinceR | they don't really belong to any country, do they? | May 09 20:20 |
MinceR | but megacorps in both places extend their influence abroad (at least certainly those in the us) | May 09 20:20 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Using Linear Algebra To Analyze "Liberal style" on #Wikipedia http://is.gd/c1AbC o_0 #wtf | May 09 20:20 | |
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Jason^Home | guys, what to choose for a netbook, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook or http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php ? | May 09 20:21 |
TechrightsBot | Title: Download Ubuntu Netbook Edition | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 29.73 KB | May 09 20:21 |
TechrightsBot | Title: Download - Linux Mint .::. Size~: 10.61 KB | May 09 20:21 |
_goblin | Jason^Home, I'd go with Mint | May 09 20:22 |
_goblin | if its between Mint/Ubuntu | May 09 20:22 |
Jason^Home | What's main difference between them? I've heard a lot of good things about Ubuntu but most of my friends use (and recommend me) Mint. :S | May 09 20:22 |
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_goblin | theres more out of the box support for Mint in terms of proprietary | May 09 20:22 |
Jason^Home | Like Flash, mp3 etc? | May 09 20:22 |
_goblin | yep | May 09 20:22 |
_goblin | you can get it in Ubuntu, just have to select the restricted repositories | May 09 20:23 |
_goblin | for speed I'd just go Mint | May 09 20:23 |
_goblin | and it has a lively community too. | May 09 20:23 |
ender2070 | mint isnt ubuntu based anymore iirc | May 09 20:23 |
_goblin | which ver? | May 09 20:23 |
ender2070 | i think the latest version 9 | May 09 20:24 |
_goblin | ah...didn't know that. | May 09 20:24 |
_goblin | I should have known that too. | May 09 20:24 |
_goblin | thanks ender! | May 09 20:24 |
ender2070 | mint is kind of useless anyways tho | May 09 20:24 |
ender2070 | even kubuntu asks me to install flash and proprietary codecs simply by opening konquerer | May 09 20:24 |
Jason^Home | I also looked at OpenSUSE lately, it looks very well polished | May 09 20:24 |
_goblin | Ive only used it a few times, but my experience was one similar to Ubuntu, out of the box and quick to get going. | May 09 20:25 |
_goblin | Jason^Home, how much Linux experience do you have? | May 09 20:25 |
ender2070 | i recommend fedora + rpmfusion for the codecs | May 09 20:25 |
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schestowitz | Whoa. TJ compared Palin to Hitler... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY7YlvObNko&feature=digest | May 09 20:25 |
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Jason^Home | None in Linux desktops, enough in Linux servers | May 09 20:25 |
ender2070 | mint based on debian will be better than ubuntu too | May 09 20:25 |
_goblin | go Wolvix (slackware) ....it plays very nicely with a netbook. | May 09 20:25 |
ender2070 | debian is way faster | May 09 20:26 |
Jason^Home | does it supports wifi, camera and everything on MSI Wind U100? | May 09 20:26 |
schestowitz | Jason^Home: Mint | May 09 20:26 |
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TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
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schestowitz | Keep Canonical on its toe | May 09 20:26 |
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TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
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ender2070 | ... | May 09 20:26 |
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TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
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TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:26 |
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TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
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*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | May 09 20:27 | |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
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TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
enthymeme | oh, /ignore, how I love thee | May 09 20:27 |
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ender2070 | perhaps your bot should limit the # of links per msg | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
_goblin | I won't know about specific netbooks, although your camera et al should have no issue.....give the liveCD a go.....Ive been a long time advocate of Wolvix. | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
TechrightsBot | Title: LONG TITLE IS LONG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 09 20:27 |
*schestowitz has kicked TechrightsBot from #boycottnovell (User term) | May 09 20:27 | |
Jason^Home | anyone said something about distos for netbooks during spam? :s | May 09 20:28 |
schestowitz | The children from linsu*** | May 09 20:28 |
schestowitz | Vandals | May 09 20:28 |
_goblin | not sure there roy.... | May 09 20:28 |
_goblin | Linsux has been hit by a troll too. | May 09 20:28 |
schestowitz | THey did it some months ago | May 09 20:28 |
_goblin | I saw it myself. | May 09 20:28 |
MinceR | there should certainly be a per-line limit to urls parsed | May 09 20:29 |
MinceR | and a time-based flood limit | May 09 20:29 |
_goblin | Ive been trying to extend an olive branch to the more sensible users and whilst talking I saw a troller doing something similar in their channel. | May 09 20:29 |
schestowitz | I see... | May 09 20:29 |
MinceR | what are sensible users doing there? | May 09 20:29 |
_goblin | thats what I wanted to know. | May 09 20:30 |
schestowitz | Well, they usually bring 'spectators' | May 09 20:30 |
schestowitz | Anyway, I'll leave it invite-only for a while | May 09 20:30 |
schestowitz | The kid will find something else to do | May 09 20:30 |
_goblin | and I get the impression that they are there from being victims of badly behaved users..... | May 09 20:31 |
*schestowitz gives channel operator status to MinceR | May 09 20:31 | |
*schestowitz gives channel operator status to _goblin | May 09 20:31 | |
_goblin | timestandstill for example is actually a very nice chap who does not promote Windows in any way and is quite balanced. | May 09 20:32 |
_goblin | VinceD whilst a Windows user is not blind enough to dismiss issues with Windows and has no problems discussing them. | May 09 20:32 |
Hababa | what issues with Windows plz? | May 09 20:32 |
_goblin | lol | May 09 20:33 |
MinceR | that would be quite a long list | May 09 20:33 |
_goblin | don't know, I think Windows (and Vista in particular) is a gift to the world. | May 09 20:33 |
_goblin | greatest thing ever. | May 09 20:33 |
Hababa | dunno have you ever used Vista? | May 09 20:33 |
MinceR | i have | May 09 20:33 |
_goblin | lol | May 09 20:33 |
_goblin | yes. | May 09 20:33 |
MinceR | once was enough for a lifetime | May 09 20:33 |
Hababa | so what's the issue with it? | May 09 20:33 |
_goblin | lol | May 09 20:33 |
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_goblin | is this a joke? | May 09 20:33 |
Hababa | no | May 09 20:33 |
MinceR | to sum it up, the issue is that it's a horrible piece of crap | May 09 20:34 |
Hababa | beside initial problems | May 09 20:34 |
MinceR | it's even worse than xp | May 09 20:34 |
Hababa | I don't know | May 09 20:34 |
Jason^Home | what a awesome argument. | May 09 20:34 |
cubezzz | every windows version was crap | May 09 20:34 |
Hababa | wow | May 09 20:34 |
_goblin | lol | May 09 20:34 |
Hababa | cool points you have | May 09 20:34 |
Hababa | it's crap coz it's crap | May 09 20:34 |
MinceR | at least xp could unmount usb mass storage devices | May 09 20:34 |
Jason^Home | it does. | May 09 20:34 |
Hababa | ah and you can't on Vista? | May 09 20:34 |
MinceR | and was somewhat less bloated | May 09 20:34 |
MinceR | i had to shut down the machine to do it | May 09 20:34 |
Hababa | bloated A+ point | May 09 20:34 |
Hababa | then u did it wrong | May 09 20:34 |
MinceR | because it kept claiming something is using it even when no apps were running | May 09 20:34 |
Hababa | because you do can unmount them | May 09 20:35 |
Jason^Home | no apps running != no processes running | May 09 20:35 |
MinceR | sure, there's an interface to do so | May 09 20:35 |
MinceR | which sometimes doesn't work | May 09 20:35 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: it did talk about apps | May 09 20:35 |
_goblin | hababa....ok since you asked......its account management sytem....its bloat, its high spec requirements, its poor backward compat, its driver issues, its security holes....want me to go on? | May 09 20:35 |
Hababa | account management system? | May 09 20:35 |
MinceR | its filesystems are subpar as well | May 09 20:35 |
Hababa | what please | May 09 20:35 |
MinceR | the scheduler performs badly | May 09 20:35 |
Hababa | ok let's have a look | May 09 20:35 |
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MinceR | it wastes memory | May 09 20:35 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, some background apps like iTunes Media Indexer could be using it | May 09 20:35 |
MinceR | no such apps were running | May 09 20:36 |
_goblin | hang on hababa, I havent finished.... | May 09 20:36 |
_goblin | and more Windows generic now.... | May 09 20:36 |
Hababa | account management -> Vista provides Local and AD users plus MLGPO and GPO to manage them | May 09 20:36 |
Hababa | in addition you can get AGPM | May 09 20:36 |
_goblin | Registry..... | May 09 20:36 |
Hababa | spec requirements -> Aero | May 09 20:36 |
Hababa | Registry ? | May 09 20:36 |
Hababa | LOL | May 09 20:36 |
Hababa | sorry but what is bad about that | May 09 20:36 |
Hababa | tell me | May 09 20:36 |
MinceR | the entire idea | May 09 20:36 |
_goblin | lol. | May 09 20:36 |
cubezzz | can you compile the kernel? | May 09 20:36 |
Hababa | I mean you don't need to edit the registry or something | May 09 20:36 |
Jason^Home | yes, if you work at Microsoft. | May 09 20:36 |
Hababa | there's GPO for that | May 09 20:36 |
Jason^Home | cubezzz, you don't need to. | May 09 20:36 |
MinceR | it's extremely fragile and keeps normal filesystem access controls from being applied to settings | May 09 20:37 |
Hababa | sure | May 09 20:37 |
Hababa | and security holes | May 09 20:37 |
Hababa | made me laught | May 09 20:37 |
Hababa | because last time I checked | May 09 20:37 |
MinceR | the only point to the registry is that their filesystems at the time wasted lots of space with small files | May 09 20:37 |
_goblin | hababa, if you have to ask, you don't understand....do a google there are a thousand sites that will explain about why the registry is a bad thing....even mainstream journals write about it. | May 09 20:37 |
Hababa | there was no way to apply policies | May 09 20:37 |
Hababa | on Linux | May 09 20:37 |
Hababa | which NT 4 could already do | May 09 20:37 |
Hababa | I don't understand it? | May 09 20:37 |
Hababa | sure | May 09 20:37 |
MinceR | what does "applying policies" do besides windows terminology? | May 09 20:38 |
cubezzz | have fun giving money to rich billionaries | May 09 20:38 |
Hababa | money is a great point | May 09 20:38 |
_goblin | Ive got a question....What on earth is a person who can't understand that Vista was a stinker doing in BN? | May 09 20:38 |
cubezzz | trolling | May 09 20:38 |
Hababa | Windows 7 home was like $50 bucks at one point | May 09 20:38 |
Hababa | so expensive | May 09 20:38 |
_goblin | 50 bucks too much | May 09 20:38 |
Hababa | sure | May 09 20:38 |
MinceR | vista also included a lot more DRM support than xp -- which resulted in more bloat and less functionality for the user. | May 09 20:38 |
cubezzz | great, go use it | May 09 20:38 |
Jason^Home | still is, for students | May 09 20:38 |
MinceR | it also introduced driver incompatibilities. | May 09 20:38 |
Hababa | sorry but if I get 8€ per hour for some job | May 09 20:38 |
Hababa | that's like 6h work | May 09 20:38 |
ender2070 | schestowitz - Fedora might be changing to a policy that wont keep them up to date with upstream anymore | May 09 20:38 |
Hababa | for something I use like 3 years | May 09 20:38 |
ender2070 | for kde | May 09 20:39 |
ender2070 | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Stability_Proposal | May 09 20:39 |
MinceR | Hababa: so, 6h more work than it's worth, then? | May 09 20:39 |
cubezzz | it's closed source, I don't use closed source | May 09 20:39 |
cubezzz | simple | May 09 20:39 |
Hababa | wow closed source | May 09 20:39 |
Hababa | yo what did you contribute then? | May 09 20:39 |
cubezzz | you can't trust it | May 09 20:39 |
Hababa | hm? | May 09 20:39 |
cubezzz | I write code, sure | May 09 20:39 |
Hababa | yo what did you contribute? | May 09 20:39 |
_goblin | Mincer, the true worth of Windows was shown when the "winners" of the Ballmer signed WIndows got put on ebay as soon as they recieved them. | May 09 20:40 |
*schestowitz sets mode -i #boycottnovell | May 09 20:40 | |
Hababa | DRM lol | May 09 20:40 |
MinceR | :) | May 09 20:40 |
Aondo | why would you have to be a contributer to preffer free software? | May 09 20:40 |
Hababa | what's the point of foss if you don't use the source? | May 09 20:40 |
cubezzz | they're just trolling, who cares | May 09 20:40 |
_goblin | lol. | May 09 20:40 |
cubezzz | porting? | May 09 20:40 |
Hababa | porting to what? | May 09 20:40 |
cubezzz | i port to zaurus | May 09 20:40 |
_goblin | hababa drinks port. | May 09 20:41 |
_goblin | thats maybe why they post as they do. | May 09 20:41 |
MinceR | being able to start using the source at any time; recompiling for new architectures; hiring a programmer to improve it for you; having the right to use it regardless of who you are and what you use it for | May 09 20:41 |
Hababa | ok when was the last time you looked at the source of smth then? | May 09 20:42 |
Hababa | and new architectures | May 09 20:42 |
MinceR | and of course a higher level of assurance that it's secure and the manufacturer hasn't built backdoors into it | May 09 20:42 |
Hababa | wow I don't think you ever ran smth beside x86 | May 09 20:42 |
cubezzz | sorry wrong | May 09 20:42 |
MinceR | i look at source often; i've also contributed code | May 09 20:42 |
cubezzz | you're not even listening | May 09 20:42 |
MinceR | Hababa: so you don't have a mobile phone? | May 09 20:42 |
cubezzz | zaurus is ARM based | May 09 20:42 |
MinceR | Hababa: or a router? | May 09 20:42 |
Hababa | phone ok that's right | May 09 20:42 |
Hababa | but router? | May 09 20:42 |
Hababa | do you write software for your router? | May 09 20:43 |
MinceR | routers tend to be non-x86 | May 09 20:43 |
_goblin | have a day off hababa, of course the src will not be an issue to many end users, but having it available in the first place leads to forks or entirely new projects which benefit the end user/ | May 09 20:43 |
Aondo | Hababa, just because it's free software don't mean you have to look to the source for it to be useful. if you find something you want to improve in a program, you are free to get someone to do it for you, or do it your self, just like when you buy a house... :) | May 09 20:43 |
MinceR | i could, once i put a free firmware on it | May 09 20:43 |
cubezzz | a router is just a computer | May 09 20:43 |
MinceR | (didn't start with it since i didn't want to risk my warranty, but it has expired since) | May 09 20:43 |
cubezzz | i/o, memory, cpu | May 09 20:43 |
cubezzz | you could program it to do anything | May 09 20:43 |
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MinceR | i selected my router making sure that it could run the most powerful free firmware of the time :> | May 09 20:44 |
Rolf^Home | Hi guys! | May 09 20:45 |
enthymeme | _goblin: lack of backward compatibility in Vista would have been forgiveable if they had come out with a cleaner, more stable, less bloated OS. | May 09 20:45 |
enthymeme | gah, brb, have to go walk dogs >.> | May 09 20:45 |
*enthymeme zoom | May 09 20:45 | |
schestowitz | "America needs to go off the oil tit" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bfgEwblM&feature=digest | May 09 20:47 |
Hababa | where did the TechrightsBot go btw? | May 09 20:48 |
MinceR | it was kicked so your troll friends can't use it to flood | May 09 20:48 |
Hababa | is it open source btw? | May 09 20:48 |
Hababa | because I think it spies on me | May 09 20:48 |
MinceR | dunno, it isn't mine | May 09 20:48 |
schestowitz | Hababa: it prevents that 'friend' from flooding | May 09 20:49 |
MinceR | we could give our regulars autovoice and if the trolls start making noise (or flood) we can silence them with a +m | May 09 20:51 |
MinceR | while the discussion can continue | May 09 20:51 |
MinceR | it would be useful to know who can use /chanserv invite -- maybe that could work too, while we're +i because of a bot attack | May 09 20:52 |
_goblin | hababa, Im sure if you ask you can get the src, but since you are free to leave at any time, I'd suggest you go if you feel nervous...tell you what, if you want I'll write you a script to have your own techrights bots for your channel... | May 09 20:52 |
Hababa | why don't you just fix the bot | May 09 20:53 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 20:53 |
_goblin | its not mine | May 09 20:53 |
_goblin | and thats the first time there has been any issue with it. | May 09 20:53 |
MinceR | actually it isn't | May 09 20:53 |
_goblin | I stand corrected. | May 09 20:53 |
MinceR | it has been used for flooding just like that a couple times already | May 09 20:53 |
_goblin | ah | May 09 20:53 |
_goblin | wasn't here when that happened. | May 09 20:53 |
Hababa | ...well I was | May 09 20:53 |
MinceR | (in general, bots and other automatically responding agents on IRC should be written a lot more paranoidly than that bot) | May 09 20:54 |
MinceR | Hababa: maybe you were doing it | May 09 20:54 |
Hababa | nope not that | May 09 20:54 |
_goblin | hababa, thats nice, so you moved from discounting issues with Vista to paranoia about the bot? | May 09 20:54 |
_goblin | sort of makes sense now. | May 09 20:54 |
Hababa | also protip: mibbit shows IP in gecos | May 09 20:54 |
MinceR | protip: proxies exist | May 09 20:54 |
MinceR | protip: mibbit also shows IP in username | May 09 20:55 |
Hababa | you didn't whois him tho, right? | May 09 20:55 |
_goblin | hababa: you a pro? lol, that must make 90% of this room deities then. | May 09 20:55 |
Hababa | wow | May 09 20:55 |
MinceR | why would i have to whois him if i can just hex2ip his username? | May 09 20:55 |
Hababa | how come you so witty? | May 09 20:55 |
_goblin | how come you so silly? | May 09 20:55 |
_goblin | (bad English intentional) | May 09 20:55 |
MinceR | why so serious? | May 09 20:56 |
_goblin | pro-tip: Hababa, try elsewhere, whatever it is you are trying to achieve is isn't working. | May 09 20:56 |
cubezzz | wow, lots of pro-tips today | May 09 20:56 |
_goblin | thanks to hababa, he's a pro you know! | May 09 20:57 |
_goblin | and he loves Vista..... | May 09 20:57 |
MinceR | pro-micro$oft? | May 09 20:57 |
cubezzz | pro-top: read the Halloween documents | May 09 20:57 |
_goblin | pro-Vista certainly. | May 09 20:57 |
cubezzz | I'll join in :) | May 09 20:57 |
_goblin | thats a real pro there..... | May 09 20:57 |
Hababa | the halloween docs | May 09 20:57 |
MinceR | also read the Comes documents and the letters to the DoJ in the antitrust case | May 09 20:57 |
Hababa | wow esr did good job leakin them | May 09 20:57 |
MinceR | they tell a lot about how m$ operates | May 09 20:57 |
Hababa | protip: writing m$ does not make you look smart | May 09 20:58 |
Hababa | etc | May 09 20:58 |
MinceR | protip: m$ doesn't deserve respect | May 09 20:58 |
_goblin | protip: rising to a simple bait doesnt either. | May 09 20:58 |
MinceR | protip: complaining about people writing "m$" only makes you look like a douche | May 09 20:58 |
Hababa | you're making yourself look pretty stupid that way | May 09 20:58 |
Hababa | but ok | May 09 20:58 |
_goblin | pro-tip, hababa make sure that if you are attempting to troll its not you who is being played. | May 09 20:58 |
Hababa | Vista 7 and crApple are actually even more retarded | May 09 20:58 |
cubezzz | you can kick him any time now | May 09 20:59 |
MinceR | yes, all versions of windows are pretty retarded | May 09 20:59 |
MinceR | and so is crApple | May 09 20:59 |
MinceR | thankfully we aren't forced to rely on them so much | May 09 20:59 |
_goblin | cubezzz: why? he's a pro, we should be pleased he's here. | May 09 20:59 |
cubezzz | anyway, use whatever OS you want... I don't care | May 09 20:59 |
Hababa | you shud | May 09 21:00 |
Hababa | etc | May 09 21:00 |
cubezzz | sorry | May 09 21:00 |
Rolf^Home | I hate Apple. They are spying on me | May 09 21:01 |
Jason^Home | I hate Canoncial. They are enforcing me to use what THEY like. | May 09 21:01 |
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Jason^Home | canonical * | May 09 21:01 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: how? | May 09 21:01 |
Rolf^Home | Ey, you are at home too? AWESUM | May 09 21:01 |
MinceR | you could just switch to a non-ubuntu distro | May 09 21:01 |
Jason^Home | I mean, in their distros. | May 09 21:02 |
Jason^Home | also well | May 09 21:02 |
Jason^Home | all distros are influenced by ubuntu | May 09 21:02 |
MinceR | that's one of the things distros are about | May 09 21:02 |
Jason^Home | most developers nowadays target their apps for ubuntu | May 09 21:02 |
Jason^Home | which is fecking lame | May 09 21:02 |
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cubezzz | FOSS coders just program what they want | May 09 21:04 |
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ender2070 | jason thats kind of wrong | May 09 21:12 |
ender2070 | people target fedora,ubuntu,debian,opensuse | May 09 21:13 |
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Jason^Home | ender2070, Skype isn't THE WHOLE Linux software, you know. | May 09 21:14 |
MinceR | skype is crap | May 09 21:14 |
ender2070 | i never said anything about skype | May 09 21:14 |
Jason^Home | Skype indeed is most awesome VoIP software available nowadays. | May 09 21:14 |
ender2070 | in fact FUCK PROPRIETARY | May 09 21:14 |
cubezzz | of course, we do, we do | May 09 21:15 |
MinceR | or the most awesome botnet. | May 09 21:15 |
cubezzz | as much as possible | May 09 21:15 |
MinceR | can you tell which? :> | May 09 21:15 |
ender2070 | skype will be replaced by a FOSS alternative soon enough | May 09 21:15 |
Jason^Home | In your dreams, it will be. | May 09 21:15 |
ender2070 | sure it will | May 09 21:15 |
MinceR | (with encrypted, obfuscated, proprietary code and encrypted, obfuscated, proprietary protocols) | May 09 21:15 |
cubezzz | I don't even use VoIP ;-) | May 09 21:15 |
ender2070 | skype doesnt have anything nobody else can implement | May 09 21:16 |
MinceR | there already are open standards for VoIP and FLOSS implementations thereof | May 09 21:16 |
Jason^Home | Of course it's p2p, because even THE WHOLE Amazon S3 server park couldn't handle serving SO MUCH data. | May 09 21:16 |
Jason^Home | also, in theory blah blah everything is so much better than Skype, but in reality, NOBODY except lifeless nerds know about those alternative VoIP programs. | May 09 21:16 |
MinceR | it isn't p2p for serving data, it's p2p for proxying for users who can't be bothered to set up their routers properly. | May 09 21:16 |
Jason^Home | it IS for serving data aswell. | May 09 21:16 |
ender2070 | no its not | May 09 21:17 |
MinceR | VoIP is for lifeless nerds like you | May 09 21:17 |
MinceR | :> | May 09 21:17 |
ender2070 | i dont need the amazon s3 server park to place a single call | May 09 21:17 |
Jason^Home | sorry but all sexy girls use Skype | May 09 21:17 |
ender2070 | idiot | May 09 21:17 |
MinceR | lol | May 09 21:17 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, Skype handles billions of calls | May 09 21:17 |
Jason^Home | not A SINGLE one | May 09 21:17 |
ender2070 | i dont make billions of calls | May 09 21:17 |
MinceR | now he's scraping the bottom of the argument barrel | May 09 21:17 |
ender2070 | yeah | May 09 21:17 |
ender2070 | lol | May 09 21:17 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, yes, but nobody will make ANOTHER skype just for you ;) | May 09 21:18 |
MinceR | nobody needs to | May 09 21:18 |
ender2070 | voip is a standard | May 09 21:18 |
MinceR | many apps and even hw devices already speak SIP | May 09 21:18 |
MinceR | and H.323 | May 09 21:18 |
Jason^Home | Skype is a standard actually | May 09 21:18 |
MinceR | no it's not | May 09 21:18 |
ender2070 | all that skype has is deals with phone companies | May 09 21:18 |
Jason^Home | in corporate enviroments it is. | May 09 21:18 |
MinceR | skype doesn't even have open specifications | May 09 21:18 |
Jason^Home | Yes, so trojans cannot spy Skype history and record Skype calls. | May 09 21:18 |
ender2070 | why not | May 09 21:19 |
MinceR | actually properly done encryption via open standards can prevent that | May 09 21:19 |
MinceR | no need to obfuscate | May 09 21:19 |
ender2070 | is there some 256-bit encryption going from the software to the sound driver? | May 09 21:19 |
ender2070 | :P | May 09 21:19 |
Jason^Home | yes cause current opensource encryption protocols are SO faster than commercial | May 09 21:20 |
Jason^Home | not? | May 09 21:20 |
MinceR | in fact, an open encrypted protocol can be expected to see more peer review and improvement and hence be more secure | May 09 21:20 |
Hababa | many eyes theory | May 09 21:20 |
Jason^Home | s/in fact/in theory/ | May 09 21:20 |
Hababa | wow | May 09 21:20 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: it's not about the encryption algorithms, skype probably doesn't have their own | May 09 21:20 |
Jason^Home | I bet they do. | May 09 21:20 |
MinceR | it's about the _protocols_ | May 09 21:20 |
ender2070 | skype uses AES 256-bit | May 09 21:20 |
MinceR | if they do, it's all the worse for them | May 09 21:20 |
MinceR | homegrown encryption tends to be weak | May 09 21:20 |
Jason^Home | Somehow all the sexy girls don't care and use Skype instead of ZOMG OPENSOURCE VoIP? | May 09 21:20 |
MinceR | as it was proven many times, including in the case of WEP | May 09 21:20 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: is skype your last hope for finding "sexy girls"? | May 09 21:21 |
Hababa | sorry but WEP uses arcfour | May 09 21:21 |
MinceR | is that because they can't stand you face to face? | May 09 21:21 |
Hababa | a streamline cipher | May 09 21:21 |
Hababa | and until sosemanuk | May 09 21:21 |
ender2070 | Jason^Home - some of us dont live promiscuous lifestyles, and have gf's already | May 09 21:21 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, yeah, you're right as always etc | May 09 21:21 |
Hababa | there was no real secure streamline cipher | May 09 21:21 |
MinceR | Hababa: it uses CRC for integrity, though | May 09 21:21 |
Hababa | NIST certified like none | May 09 21:21 |
MinceR | and even [A]RC4 can be used more securely than the way WEP does | May 09 21:22 |
MinceR | (iirc discard the first 256 bytes of the key stream before use) | May 09 21:22 |
Hababa | well yes | May 09 21:22 |
Hababa | that was done with WPA | May 09 21:22 |
Hababa | so | May 09 21:22 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:22 |
MinceR | GSM is another example of a system being broken by not properly reviewed protocols | May 09 21:22 |
MinceR | Hababa: which is not WEP | May 09 21:22 |
Jason^Home | dunno | May 09 21:22 |
Hababa | it's not like crypto on linux is any safer | May 09 21:22 |
Jason^Home | how the fact that Skype is p2p bothers you? | May 09 21:22 |
Hababa | just to mention the debian openssl disaster | May 09 21:22 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: it's not the part that bothers me | May 09 21:23 |
ender2070 | Jason^Home - its hardly p2p anyways | May 09 21:23 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, it's mostly p2p. | May 09 21:23 |
ender2070 | no its not | May 09 21:23 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: the part that bothers me is that the protocol is closed and there are no other apps for it | May 09 21:23 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: and that their binaries are closed like bits of malware | May 09 21:23 |
ender2070 | give me a wireshark dump to prove it | May 09 21:23 |
ender2070 | noob | May 09 21:23 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: you have an app that is expected to communicate random, opaque data with random hosts | May 09 21:23 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, how come sometimes, when I become a node, my CPU usage by Steam.exe rises to around 20% and it uses around 50mbit/s upload and 20mbit/s download? | May 09 21:24 |
Jason^Home | also obv | May 09 21:24 |
MinceR | if that doesn't strike you as a security issue then you need to learn some lessons about security. :> | May 09 21:24 |
Jason^Home | GIME WIRESHARK DUMP | May 09 21:24 |
Jason^Home | obv I have it because I totally did all dumps when I was node last time | May 09 21:24 |
Jason^Home | ?> | May 09 21:24 |
MinceR | since when is Steam.exe a part of Skype? | May 09 21:24 |
ender2070 | i dont run winblows | May 09 21:24 |
ender2070 | yeah that too | May 09 21:24 |
Jason^Home | Since around 2003 | May 09 21:24 |
ender2070 | LOL | May 09 21:24 |
MinceR | interesting. | May 09 21:24 |
Jason^Home | obviously if you use a OS that's binary format doesn't supports digital signatures then it's not .exe | May 09 21:25 |
ender2070 | why are you even here Jason, you're just a windows user | May 09 21:25 |
MinceR | so what else is part of Skype then? | May 09 21:25 |
Jason^Home | Skype.app, obviously. | May 09 21:25 |
Jason^Home | ;D | May 09 21:25 |
MinceR | ender2070: probably an irresistible urge to demonstrate his lack of knowledge. | May 09 21:25 |
cubezzz | you can run skpe on Linux though right? | May 09 21:25 |
Jason^Home | yes very | May 09 21:25 |
Jason^Home | never noticed Steam becoming a p2p node when I ran it on linux, tho | May 09 21:26 |
Jason^Home | cause Skype developers probably know that Linux users are on shitty computers and shitty internets, so they shouldn't be supernodes. | May 09 21:26 |
ender2070 | cubezzz - ctcp version him, hes a windows noob | May 09 21:27 |
cubezzz | whatever, I don't even use VoIP at all | May 09 21:28 |
ender2070 | hes here to troll | May 09 21:28 |
ender2070 | probably linsuxx | May 09 21:28 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, oh yeah, Windows = Troll | May 09 21:28 |
Jason^Home | so obvious argument | May 09 21:28 |
cubezzz | no point in arguing | May 09 21:28 |
MinceR | btw both SIP and H.323 existed before skype | May 09 21:28 |
Hababa | linsux | May 09 21:28 |
Hababa | plz | May 09 21:28 |
Jason^Home | also you guys arguing about security? | May 09 21:28 |
Jason^Home | then tell me | May 09 21:28 |
ender2070 | you already made trash talk about linux | May 09 21:28 |
Hababa | you do think people need to organize to troll you? | May 09 21:28 |
Jason^Home | since when ELF supports | May 09 21:28 |
Jason^Home | embedded digital signatures | May 09 21:28 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 21:28 |
cubezzz | you're trolling Jason^Home | May 09 21:28 |
ender2070 | write off Jason and Hababa | May 09 21:28 |
ender2070 | linsuxx trolls | May 09 21:28 |
Jason^Home | what's that | May 09 21:28 |
Hababa | sorry I'm not on linsux | May 09 21:28 |
Hababa | omg mIRC | May 09 21:28 |
Jason^Home | neither am I | May 09 21:28 |
cubezzz | I couldn't careless about VoIP | May 09 21:29 |
Hababa | shock ender2070 | May 09 21:29 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:29 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: if you're relying on embedded digital signatures for security, you're doing it wrong. see symbian. | May 09 21:29 |
Jason^Home | no I am not etc | May 09 21:29 |
ender2070 | linsuxx or not, ur trolls | May 09 21:29 |
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ender2070 | you should go hang out with them | May 09 21:29 |
Hababa | dunno ELF got no sigs tho | May 09 21:29 |
Hababa | so | May 09 21:29 |
Jason^Home | -cubezzz- VERSION xchat 2.0.7 Linux 2.4.22-1.2199.nptlsmp [i686/551.76MHz/SMP] | May 09 21:29 |
Hababa | and on windows | May 09 21:29 |
Jason^Home | typical linux user, 551 mhz CPU. | May 09 21:29 |
Hababa | there is like sfc /scannow | May 09 21:29 |
ender2070 | you guys can share your Folie a Deux together | May 09 21:30 |
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cubezzz | I own 5 different computers | May 09 21:30 |
cubezzz | this one does IRC fine | May 09 21:30 |
Hababa | 5x 550Mhz? | May 09 21:30 |
Hababa | wow that's already 2750Mhz | May 09 21:30 |
cubezzz | I could probably IRC on a commodore 128 | May 09 21:30 |
ender2070 | now they are ripping on someones cpu speed :) | May 09 21:30 |
ender2070 | they aren't trolls though | May 09 21:31 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, yes cause CPU speed totally doesn't matters | May 09 21:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Does Linsux have any purpose but to trash other operating systems to spread the filth of M$ FUD? | May 09 21:31 |
cubezzz | I guess you need a fast CPU to make up for your slow OS | May 09 21:31 |
MinceR | perhaps their vpenis size is a function of cpu clock rate | May 09 21:31 |
Jason^Home | cubezzz, somehow when I tried to run rtorrent on arch on my netbook it couldn't get over 10MB/s | May 09 21:31 |
ender2070 | only windows needs the latest cpu to function properly | May 09 21:31 |
Jason^Home | while uTorrent on winxp on same netbook easily gets 50+ MB/s | May 09 21:31 |
Hababa | right dats why google etc run on like C64 | May 09 21:32 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:32 |
Hababa | right | May 09 21:32 |
Jason^Home | explain plz | May 09 21:32 |
MinceR | Hababa: no, they run windows... oh, wait | May 09 21:32 |
Hababa | yes my point | May 09 21:32 |
ender2070 | if they ran windows they would need 4x more state sized datacenters | May 09 21:32 |
Jason^Home | Akamai servers run on IIS 7 | May 09 21:32 |
cubezzz | Jason^Home, try BSD then | May 09 21:32 |
Jason^Home | that's why they are superior to any other CDN's | May 09 21:32 |
ender2070 | Akamai used to run bsd | May 09 21:33 |
Jason^Home | cubezzz, tried too, was A BIT better - around 20MB/s | May 09 21:33 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: they run linux and m$ hides their "servers" behind them | May 09 21:33 |
Jason^Home | used | May 09 21:33 |
ender2070 | its their bandwidth thats superior | May 09 21:33 |
ender2070 | not their OS | May 09 21:33 |
ender2070 | idiot | May 09 21:33 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, explain why rtorrent on linux WITHOUT GUI is slower than uTorrent on windows WITH gui | May 09 21:33 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 21:33 |
MinceR | 221250 [freenode] Jason^Home [shad0www@80.232.252.103] requested unknown CTCP CUBEZZZ from MinceR: version | May 09 21:33 |
ender2070 | rottent sucks | May 09 21:33 |
MinceR | lol fail | May 09 21:33 |
ender2070 | rtorrent* | May 09 21:33 |
ender2070 | what about ktorrent | May 09 21:33 |
ender2070 | why does it use less ram | May 09 21:33 |
Jason^Home | yes I didnt did enough ctrl+backspace's? | May 09 21:33 |
Jason^Home | I tried transmission, deluge, rtorrent, and some other thing that I dont remember how it was called | May 09 21:34 |
ender2070 | why does ktorrent use less ram WITH gui than utorrent on windows | May 09 21:34 |
Jason^Home | all of them were crappy 10-15MB/s | May 09 21:34 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, cause it's way shittier probably | May 09 21:34 |
ender2070 | bam, schooled | May 09 21:34 |
ender2070 | lol | May 09 21:34 |
ender2070 | cant win an arguement against you | May 09 21:34 |
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Hababa | what RAM sry? | May 09 21:34 |
Jason^Home | yes because FACT is that ktorrent = 10-15 MB/s while uTorrent = 50MB/s on same torrent | May 09 21:34 |
ender2070 | perhaps utorrent is way shittier than rtorrent w/o gui? | May 09 21:34 |
ender2070 | "probably" | May 09 21:35 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, so in what way it is shittier? | May 09 21:35 |
cubezzz | so don't use ktorrent | May 09 21:35 |
Jason^Home | I told you about speeds already | May 09 21:35 |
Jason^Home | sry | May 09 21:35 |
Jason^Home | cubezzz, told u, i tried rtorrent, ktorrent, transmission, deluge | May 09 21:35 |
Jason^Home | wat else? | May 09 21:35 |
ender2070 | i saturate my connection on ktorrent | May 09 21:35 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Linxsux trolls? | May 09 21:35 |
Hababa | lol | May 09 21:35 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, you are on 1 bit/year american DSL | May 09 21:35 |
ender2070 | i get whatever i set as my max | May 09 21:35 |
Jason^Home | so no wonders | May 09 21:35 |
Hababa | guys 3rd tiem | May 09 21:35 |
Hababa | were not form linsux | May 09 21:36 |
Jason^Home | oh you're from Canada, still I think you have around 16mbit/s | May 09 21:36 |
ender2070 | you guys belong there, not here | May 09 21:36 |
Jason^Home | max. | May 09 21:36 |
MinceR | i saturated my connection on rtorrent | May 09 21:36 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, speedtest.net pic | May 09 21:36 |
MinceR | but i guess Jason^Home fails at using rtorrent as much as at using mirc | May 09 21:36 |
ender2070 | lol | May 09 21:36 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, sorry but I am not using mIRC | May 09 21:36 |
Jason^Home | sorry. :( | May 09 21:36 |
Hababa | lol | May 09 21:37 |
Jason^Home | I am using FOSS zomghax | May 09 21:37 |
MinceR | then you fail at using xchat, too | May 09 21:37 |
ender2070 | jason and hababa are just trolls, linsuxx or not | May 09 21:37 |
Jason^Home | yes very | May 09 21:37 |
Hababa | [22:20:41] [Jason^Home VERSION reply]: xchat 2.8.7f Windows 6.1 [i1586/3,00GHz] | May 09 21:37 |
Hababa | xchat on windows | May 09 21:37 |
Hababa | is like | May 09 21:37 |
Hababa | wors den mirc | May 09 21:37 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:37 |
Jason^Home | yes but ZOMG ITS FOSS | May 09 21:37 |
MinceR | Hababa: for m$ fanboys like you, yes | May 09 21:37 |
ender2070 | mirc is the worst | May 09 21:37 |
MinceR | but you should be using Comic Chat anyway | May 09 21:37 |
ender2070 | xchat isnt foss imo | May 09 21:37 |
Jason^Home | it is | May 09 21:37 |
Jason^Home | GPL | May 09 21:37 |
Jason^Home | etc | May 09 21:37 |
MinceR | (it's from m$!) | May 09 21:37 |
Jason^Home | also it doesn't crashes on colorspam unlike mIRC | May 09 21:37 |
Hababa | sry I am running Exchange 2000 w/ IRCX | May 09 21:38 |
Hababa | for serv | May 09 21:38 |
Hababa | I admit | May 09 21:38 |
MinceR | lol ircx | May 09 21:38 |
ender2070 | they sell and support a windows version before they make updates for linux | May 09 21:38 |
Jason^Home | Hababa big bullshittr cuz he uses inspircd | May 09 21:38 |
ender2070 | linux is always a point release behind | May 09 21:38 |
Jason^Home | and atheme for services | May 09 21:38 |
MinceR | the shittiest corruption of irc i've ever seen is ircx | May 09 21:38 |
ender2070 | so fuck xchat | May 09 21:38 |
Jason^Home | ender2070 ragd | May 09 21:38 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, okay you max your connection | May 09 21:38 |
ender2070 | you cant get the full source code before they release an older linux client | May 09 21:38 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Jason^Home> are you any relation to Lucy Buntu? | May 09 21:38 |
Jason^Home | that's because your internet speed is slow, it doesn't hits clients limitations | May 09 21:38 |
Jason^Home | Chips_B_Malroy, erm, what's that, a site, blog, forum, person, program, linux distro? :S | May 09 21:39 |
Jason^Home | sounds like some random ubuntu repack | May 09 21:39 |
Chips_B_Malroy | person | May 09 21:39 |
Jason^Home | no idea | May 09 21:39 |
Chips_B_Malroy | a know M$ shill | May 09 21:40 |
Chips_B_Malroy | *known | May 09 21:40 |
Jason^Home | k | May 09 21:40 |
Jason^Home | I care | May 09 21:40 |
Chips_B_Malroy | How about your friend? | May 09 21:40 |
Hababa | who the heck is lucy buntu | May 09 21:40 |
Jason^Home | also what's best browser for linux? | May 09 21:40 |
Hababa | w3m ofc | May 09 21:40 |
Jason^Home | :D | May 09 21:40 |
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Jason^Home | so, what it is? | May 09 21:41 |
Jason^Home | firefox? chromium? | May 09 21:41 |
MinceR | what meets your requirements best | May 09 21:41 |
Jason^Home | what is best in terms of technology support? | May 09 21:42 |
ender2070 | i prefer chromium | May 09 21:42 |
ender2070 | selinux support and sandboxing | May 09 21:42 |
MinceR | i prefer firefox | May 09 21:42 |
MinceR | (with NoScript, RefControl and AdBlock Plus) | May 09 21:42 |
Jason^Home | is firefox any better than Internet Explorer 8? | May 09 21:42 |
MinceR | certainly | May 09 21:42 |
Jason^Home | I mean, does it supports protected mode | May 09 21:42 |
Jason^Home | TLS 1.2 | May 09 21:42 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 21:42 |
ender2070 | arachne for dos is better than IE8 | May 09 21:42 |
MinceR | firefox is a web browser; IE is a m$-web browser | May 09 21:42 |
Chips_B_Malroy | don't tell us you guys love Internet Exploder? | May 09 21:42 |
MinceR | firefox supports w3c standards like html and css; ie supports whatever m$ has in-house instead of standards | May 09 21:43 |
Jason^Home | of course we do, because it perfectly supports all modern standards | May 09 21:43 |
Jason^Home | like ActiveX, TLS 1.2 | May 09 21:43 |
ender2070 | no theora or ogg in IE | May 09 21:43 |
MinceR | lol | May 09 21:43 |
Jason^Home | and has advanced security features | May 09 21:43 |
ender2070 | activex isnt a standard | May 09 21:43 |
Jason^Home | HTML 5 is draft :| | May 09 21:43 |
Hababa | sorry MinceR, but checked IE9 | May 09 21:43 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:43 |
MinceR | "all modern standards" "like ActiveX" | May 09 21:43 |
MinceR | that's your best joke today | May 09 21:43 |
ender2070 | lol | May 09 21:43 |
Chips_B_Malroy | barf | May 09 21:43 |
ender2070 | activex is for idiots too | May 09 21:43 |
Hababa | oh right | May 09 21:43 |
Hababa | coz linux got instead of COM.... ? | May 09 21:44 |
Jason^Home | also not a single Linux browser supports CPU rendering | May 09 21:44 |
MinceR | ender2070: so it's perfect fit for these m$ fanboys | May 09 21:44 |
Chips_B_Malroy | it supports (IE) malware | May 09 21:44 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: actually all of them do | May 09 21:44 |
Jason^Home | while on Windows, Firefox has Direct2D, and IE has Direct2D too | May 09 21:44 |
ender2070 | the ONLY thing I love about activex - $100 spyware removal bills :) | May 09 21:44 |
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Hababa | Jason^Home meant GPU rendering | May 09 21:44 |
ender2070 | i love charging people up the ass for running insecure OS's | May 09 21:44 |
Hababa | obv | May 09 21:44 |
Jason^Home | oh dude, IE 8 in Protected Mode can't get out of his sandbox | May 09 21:44 |
Jason^Home | yes I mean GPU rendering | May 09 21:44 |
MinceR | sure it can't | May 09 21:44 |
Jason^Home | so basically it's totally safe | May 09 21:44 |
MinceR | ie was, is and always will be perfectly secure | May 09 21:45 |
Jason^Home | no working exploit | May 09 21:45 |
MinceR | like all m$ products | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | sec | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | oh wait | May 09 21:45 |
ender2070 | ms products are never exploited | May 09 21:45 |
MinceR | time to check the latest pwn2own contest :> | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | is | May 09 21:45 |
ender2070 | even though I earn $100 on each spyware/virus infested pc | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | becoz sql serv 2008 had exactly 0 security vulns | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | and like | May 09 21:45 |
Jason^Home | that pwn2own is working like on winxp only | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | mysql | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | had like | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | over 40 in 5 already | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | so | May 09 21:45 |
Jason^Home | and there's no protected mode in XP so doesnt counts | May 09 21:45 |
ender2070 | i still make $100 on vista and win7 boxes | May 09 21:45 |
MinceR | sql server is by itself a DoS attack on the machine it's "running" on :> | May 09 21:45 |
Hababa | sorry but how come | May 09 21:46 |
Chips_B_Malroy | all the time I fixed computers, only windows computers came in with malware | May 09 21:46 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, well if you run 550 MHz CPU | May 09 21:46 |
Hababa | mysql not #2 on db market | May 09 21:46 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:46 |
Jason^Home | then obviously it is | May 09 21:46 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: actually even win3.1 relies on protected mode, but thanks for playing. | May 09 21:46 |
Hababa | and oracle isnt foss either | May 09 21:46 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, I am not talking about CPU protected mode.. | May 09 21:46 |
Hababa | oracle enterprise edition costs per CPU | May 09 21:46 |
ender2070 | ms sql server requires a seperate box | May 09 21:46 |
Jason^Home | IE 8 is running in sandbox | May 09 21:46 |
Chips_B_Malroy | windows is a malware target | May 09 21:46 |
MinceR | Hababa: it sure sucks less than m$ sql though | May 09 21:46 |
Hababa | as much as mysql on an abitrary amount of servers | May 09 21:46 |
Hababa | so | May 09 21:46 |
ender2070 | ms sql server costs per cpu too, since it uses up the entire cpu | May 09 21:46 |
Hababa | MinceR, mssql costs like 50,000 bucks | May 09 21:46 |
Hababa | how come | May 09 21:46 |
Hababa | mysql not #2 then | May 09 21:47 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Have you scanned your windows lately for malware? | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | yes I did but it couldnt run becoz I used applocker | May 09 21:47 |
Jason^Home | Chips_B_Malroy, obviously I did | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | but linux got no TPE | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | so | May 09 21:47 |
ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - they have the linsuxx-troll virus | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | besides in grsecurity | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | LOL | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | and that one | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | is very basic | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | supports no excepts etc | May 09 21:47 |
Jason^Home | grsecurity doesnt comes by default | May 09 21:47 |
Jason^Home | so basically usls | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | yo | May 09 21:47 |
MinceR | but but but linux got no <random winblows "feature">! | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | besides for servs | May 09 21:47 |
Chips_B_Malroy | you guys work for MS? | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | MinceR, trusted path execution | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:47 |
Hababa | so wer is it | May 09 21:48 |
MinceR | grammar, where is it? | May 09 21:48 |
Jason^Home | we forgot it at /b/ | May 09 21:48 |
Jason^Home | is this bad | May 09 21:48 |
Hababa | dun care | May 09 21:48 |
MinceR | Chips_B_Malroy: i'd expect astroturfers to be at least capable of human communication | May 09 21:48 |
Jason^Home | also MinceR that's not random feature | May 09 21:48 |
Hababa | oh right | May 09 21:48 |
Jason^Home | that's VERY useful feature | May 09 21:48 |
Hababa | there is one thing I always wanted to ask | May 09 21:48 |
Jason^Home | especially in corporate enviroments | May 09 21:48 |
Hababa | what does astroturfing mean? | May 09 21:48 |
ender2070 | does Windows pass a single DOD test? | May 09 21:48 |
MinceR | yes, very useful when you're using the world's first or second least secure OS (the other contender being osx) | May 09 21:49 |
Hababa | DOD test? | May 09 21:49 |
Hababa | you mean EAL? | May 09 21:49 |
Hababa | if so it's EAL4+ | May 09 21:49 |
ender2070 | department of defense | May 09 21:49 |
Hababa | yes | May 09 21:49 |
Hababa | but what test? | May 09 21:49 |
Chips_B_Malroy | MinceR> Chips_B_Malroy: i'd expect astroturfers to be at least capable of human communication" when they lose the debate they just move on to something else, it why they cannot communicate | May 09 21:49 |
MinceR | sure it passes EAL4+, if it has no connection to the outside world, is unplugged and thrown into the sea encased in concrete | May 09 21:49 |
ender2070 | redhat is EAL4+ | May 09 21:49 |
Hababa | yes | May 09 21:49 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, yes it is very useful when you're running Linux or second least secure OS | May 09 21:49 |
Hababa | but EAL | May 09 21:49 |
Hababa | is assurance | May 09 21:49 |
MinceR | otherwise winnt is just a home for spam-relaying malware | May 09 21:50 |
Hababa | not like giving any info bout quality | May 09 21:50 |
Hababa | etc | May 09 21:50 |
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Hababa | coz if a soft is not higher EAL certed | May 09 21:50 |
Jason^Home | Chips_B_Malroy, that's exactly why ender2070 STFU'd when I told him that obviously all linux torrent clients saturate his slow american DSL | May 09 21:50 |
MinceR | Hababa: check the Target of Evaluation. | May 09 21:50 |
Hababa | then i can be either not checked | May 09 21:50 |
Hababa | or have failed the check | May 09 21:50 |
Hababa | so | May 09 21:50 |
ender2070 | Jason^Home - im not american sirs | May 09 21:50 |
Chips_B_Malroy | only person who I know that has ever said the windows is the most secure OS ever, is Andre. | May 09 21:50 |
Hababa | EAL not good point | May 09 21:50 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, you're North American | May 09 21:50 |
Hababa | question | May 09 21:50 |
Hababa | why is linux more secure? | May 09 21:51 |
ender2070 | im not american sirs | May 09 21:51 |
_goblin | chips....and don't forget what Michael Jackson should have lived to see! | May 09 21:51 |
Hababa | coz like | May 09 21:51 |
MinceR | Chips_B_Malroy: i think many m$ apologists would claim the same | May 09 21:51 |
Hababa | secunia shows moar vulns | May 09 21:51 |
Hababa | etc | May 09 21:51 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, why your Country flag is set to Canada then? ;( | May 09 21:51 |
Chips_B_Malroy | even any windows users know it is not secure | May 09 21:51 |
Hababa | and just becoz virus cant run | May 09 21:51 |
Jason^Home | and stop moving to another argument sirs | May 09 21:51 |
MinceR | Hababa: because it was designed and implemented by people who had a clue, and cared. | May 09 21:51 |
ender2070 | its Canada, not USA or America | May 09 21:51 |
Hababa | bad point | May 09 21:51 |
ender2070 | im a Canadian | May 09 21:51 |
Jason^Home | yes | May 09 21:51 |
Jason^Home | Canada is in North America | May 09 21:51 |
ender2070 | yes but my people are called Canadians | May 09 21:51 |
Jason^Home | ok.. | May 09 21:51 |
ender2070 | im not buying your UN agenda bullshit, stfu | May 09 21:51 |
Jason^Home | still... of course linux torrent clients saturate your slow internet | May 09 21:51 |
ender2070 | LOL | May 09 21:52 |
Jason^Home | very funny :) | May 09 21:52 |
ender2070 | you are funny | May 09 21:52 |
Jason^Home | oh you are canadian | May 09 21:52 |
Jason^Home | you consider 16mbit fast | May 09 21:53 |
Jason^Home | no wonders | May 09 21:53 |
ender2070 | thats a mid level connection | May 09 21:53 |
Jason^Home | here minimal what you can get is 20mbit/s | May 09 21:53 |
Jason^Home | ISP's just don't offer slower packages :< | May 09 21:53 |
Chips_B_Malroy | "Jason^Home> still... of course linux torrent clients saturate your slow internet" that is because Linux users unlike windows users do not need to infringe programs because ours are free anyway. | May 09 21:53 |
Jason^Home | Chips_B_Malroy, sorry but there are OVER 9000 legal torrents | May 09 21:54 |
Jason^Home | e.g. debian ISO's | May 09 21:54 |
Jason^Home | would be pain in the ass to download via HTTP | May 09 21:54 |
Jason^Home | cause most browsers (at least linux ones) can't preallocate files | May 09 21:54 |
Jason^Home | so basically huge fragmentation | May 09 21:54 |
Chips_B_Malroy | most windows users torrent illegal programs | May 09 21:54 |
Jason^Home | most | May 09 21:54 |
Jason^Home | what a awesome argument. | May 09 21:55 |
ender2070 | Latvia is such a small country its easy to provide fast access to everyone | May 09 21:55 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, sorry but huge Sweden got gbit/s aswell | May 09 21:55 |
ender2070 | you're in Latvia | May 09 21:55 |
Jason^Home | and huuuuge France got 2.4 gbit/s for home users for 70 EUR/month | May 09 21:55 |
Jason^Home | yes, so? | May 09 21:55 |
Chips_B_Malroy | its why so many otherwise protected windows computers come in for repair, trojans installed from torrented apps | May 09 21:55 |
Hababa | Chips_B_Malroy | May 09 21:55 |
Hababa | sorry my windows all legit | May 09 21:55 |
Hababa | so my office | May 09 21:55 |
Jason^Home | somehow I torrented >9000 apps and my PC it totally clean | May 09 21:55 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 21:55 |
Hababa | etc | May 09 21:55 |
Chips_B_Malroy | I did not say you Jason, I said average window user | May 09 21:56 |
Jason^Home | erm okay? | May 09 21:56 |
Jason^Home | average windows user is dumb because average computer user is dumb | May 09 21:56 |
Jason^Home | and computer manufacturers preinstall windows | May 09 21:56 |
ender2070 | Jason^Home - actually you dont know that at all for sure unless you reinstall after every download | May 09 21:56 |
Jason^Home | if they would preinstall linux then average linux users would be dumb | May 09 21:56 |
Jason^Home | sry | May 09 21:56 |
Jason^Home | also yes I do know for sure | May 09 21:57 |
ender2070 | no you dont | May 09 21:57 |
Jason^Home | I know everything about every single running process, every single service etc | May 09 21:57 |
ender2070 | your a/v only knows about malware the company has been able to find out about | May 09 21:57 |
Jason^Home | I don't use AV> | May 09 21:57 |
ender2070 | then you're even more in the dark | May 09 21:57 |
Jason^Home | they are useless with Windows 7 advanced security technologies. | May 09 21:57 |
ender2070 | what about rootkits | May 09 21:57 |
Jason^Home | what about sfc /scannow? | May 09 21:57 |
Chips_B_Malroy | then you are in trouble | May 09 21:57 |
ender2070 | rootkits | May 09 21:57 |
ender2070 | dumbass | May 09 21:57 |
Jason^Home | also ofc rootkits are popular in Linux | May 09 21:58 |
Jason^Home | cause no digital signatures | May 09 21:58 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 21:58 |
ender2070 | its only a matter of time before win7 is a haven for malware | May 09 21:58 |
Hababa | ender2070, I insert MS DaRT cd | May 09 21:58 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:58 |
Hababa | and do liek scan | May 09 21:58 |
Jason^Home | same | May 09 21:58 |
ender2070 | every security technique ms comes up with is targetted immediately | May 09 21:58 |
Hababa | non backed up claim | May 09 21:58 |
Jason^Home | http://speedtest.net/result/784439283.png <- Linux clients can barely saturate 10% of this | May 09 21:58 |
Hababa | good point | May 09 21:58 |
Jason^Home | :( | May 09 21:58 |
ender2070 | show me a security technology from ms that isn't broken | May 09 21:58 |
Jason^Home | UAC | May 09 21:58 |
ender2070 | UAC can be faked/broken | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | no | May 09 21:59 |
Jason^Home | no it can't | May 09 21:59 |
ender2070 | most users click yes anyways too | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | wow good point | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 21:59 |
ender2070 | it comes up so much | May 09 21:59 |
Jason^Home | also so what if most users click yes? | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | and UAC cannot be broken | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | fyi | May 09 21:59 |
ender2070 | yes it can | May 09 21:59 |
Jason^Home | most linux users type "sudo" when asked too | May 09 21:59 |
Jason^Home | so sry | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | only thing that happened | May 09 21:59 |
ender2070 | anything can be broken | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | is that on lowered security level | May 09 21:59 |
ender2070 | ms is the biggest target | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | it was possible to bypass using rundll32 | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | but | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | on lowered as I said | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | beside that not | May 09 21:59 |
Hababa | and before you name KPP | May 09 22:00 |
Hababa | coz I know you would | May 09 22:00 |
Chips_B_Malroy | "ender2070> its only a matter of time before win7 is a haven for malware" What do you mean, it already IS! | May 09 22:00 |
Hababa | KPP is operating on the same ring and can always be broken in theory | May 09 22:00 |
Hababa | but theory is the big point | May 09 22:00 |
Hababa | actually breaking it is hard | May 09 22:00 |
Jason^Home | Chips_B_Malroy, show me any virus that runs under non-administrative user please? | May 09 22:00 |
Jason^Home | oh right there are none/ | May 09 22:00 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:00 |
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Hababa | uhm show me why virus says here program blocked by gpo | May 09 22:01 |
ender2070 | we're linux users, not walking virus-db encyclopedias | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | how do I reproduce that in linux? | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | oh right | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | forgot | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | linux got no tpe | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | sry | May 09 22:01 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, oh right when you are asked to show you can't | May 09 22:01 |
Jason^Home | because there are none | May 09 22:01 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:01 |
ender2070 | windows doesnt have selinux | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | ender2070, a virus is simple damaging code | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | LOL! | May 09 22:01 |
Jason^Home | linux doesnt has applocker | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | ender2070, group policy | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | plz | May 09 22:01 |
Hababa | that allows you to LOCK anything | May 09 22:01 |
ender2070 | windows doesnt have a package manager with a key database preventing unauthorized software install | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | sorry but rong | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | windows got add and remove programs | May 09 22:02 |
Jason^Home | oh right package manager argument | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | and you can distribute | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | MSI | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | packages | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | so people can do one click | May 09 22:02 |
Jason^Home | also where linux got unified package format? | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | and windows uses signature on it | May 09 22:02 |
Jason^Home | windows got .msi | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | so | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | linux got RPM | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | which lsb defs as std | May 09 22:02 |
ender2070 | windows doesnt have anything centralized | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | but DEB is more used | May 09 22:02 |
Hababa | aka fail | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | ender2070, no? | May 09 22:03 |
ender2070 | you trust every .exe and .msi file you download and install | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | group policy plz | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | yes | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | coz they're signed | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 22:03 |
ender2070 | group policy has a database of keys from every software vendor? | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | group policy got templates :3 | May 09 22:03 |
ender2070 | it will prevent an app from installing if its .exe file in the db is modified? | May 09 22:03 |
Jason^Home | plz what CA's linux got | May 09 22:03 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | every nub can create them | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | ender2070, hm? | May 09 22:03 |
Chips_B_Malroy | The limited (normal) user account in Windows is better, not to be confused with UAC, which is not a limited or normal account. But it still has more problems than the same type of setup in other OS. | May 09 22:03 |
MinceR | 224245 < Hababa> and UAC cannot be broken | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | then the signature mismatches? | May 09 22:03 |
MinceR | it comes broken | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | sorry | May 09 22:03 |
Hababa | MinceR, better than setuid | May 09 22:04 |
MinceR | especially in vista7 | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | lol | May 09 22:04 |
ender2070 | theres no forced signature system | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | you can enable that | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | :3 | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | group policy as I said | May 09 22:04 |
ender2070 | but its not forced | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | if you want to | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | it is | May 09 22:04 |
ender2070 | if it was forced you wouldnt have to enable it | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | oh | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | not by default | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | ofc | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | but you can do that | May 09 22:04 |
ender2070 | microsoft should have that setup | May 09 22:04 |
Hababa | no? | May 09 22:04 |
Jason^Home | linux browsers should have TLS 1.2 | May 09 22:05 |
Jason^Home | sry | May 09 22:05 |
Hababa | that would like confuse everyone | May 09 22:05 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 22:05 |
Hababa | or do you run grsecurity | May 09 22:05 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 22:05 |
ender2070 | Jason^Home - chromium | May 09 22:05 |
Hababa | with tpe? | May 09 22:05 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Normal accounts in Windows was a bolt on, or add on feature, while I recommend it, it is not as easy to use as the limited accounts in Nix. Also, it does not remove the 4 main malware targets in windows, IE, Outllook, WMP, and Messinger. | May 09 22:05 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, chromium is so shitty that nobody uses it | May 09 22:05 |
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MinceR | shittiness doesn't prevent people from using something | May 09 22:05 |
Jason^Home | also those "malware targets" are running from limited user so sry | May 09 22:05 |
ender2070 | but it means you're wrong | May 09 22:05 |
MinceR | case in point: ie | May 09 22:05 |
Jason^Home | IE is awesome browser actually | May 09 22:06 |
ender2070 | there are linux browsers that support TLS 1.2 | May 09 22:06 |
Hababa | IE got 1/3 of security holes compared to ff | May 09 22:06 |
Jason^Home | and yes | May 09 22:06 |
Jason^Home | ^ | May 09 22:06 |
Hababa | according to secunia | May 09 22:06 |
Hababa | so | May 09 22:06 |
ender2070 | you're just a FUDing bastard | May 09 22:06 |
Hababa | dunno | May 09 22:06 |
MinceR | sure, it's awesome on every Opposite Day | May 09 22:06 |
Hababa | need secunia stats? | May 09 22:06 |
ender2070 | nobody uses IE | May 09 22:06 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Plus since MS just gives out its disks that set up the accounts as administrator by default and OEMs install it that way, how can you expect the public to run it any other way? | May 09 22:06 |
Jason^Home | and IE 8 with protected mode got 1/10 of holes compared to ff | May 09 22:06 |
Hababa | IE8 got ASLR and DEP | May 09 22:06 |
Hababa | oh right | May 09 22:06 |
Hababa | wer ASLR on linux? | May 09 22:06 |
ender2070 | Jason^Home - thats becuase most IE users are still runnning 6 on XP | May 09 22:06 |
Hababa | coz VDSO random not liek usabl | May 09 22:07 |
Hababa | ender2070, MU updates to v8 | May 09 22:07 |
Hababa | so bad point what most users do | May 09 22:07 |
ender2070 | LOL | May 09 22:07 |
MinceR | "our servers were cracked? impossible! they were protected by over 9000 acronyms!" | May 09 22:07 |
ender2070 | you think average joe uses MU? | May 09 22:07 |
Chips_B_Malroy | which leads to making it very easy to infect. and if its easy to infect, more will write the infections for it. So even if you have a somewhat secured windows as a normal users, trojans abound. | May 09 22:07 |
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Hababa | ender2070, does the average joe run linux | May 09 22:07 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 22:07 |
Jason^Home | <ender2070> you think average joe uses MU? | May 09 22:07 |
ender2070 | ill bet you $100 average windows users dont keep up to date | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | average non-pirate does | May 09 22:08 |
ender2070 | no average joe doesnt touch linux | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | cause WU is updated by default | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:08 |
Chips_B_Malroy | MS servers are hacked, defaced often | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | enabled * | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | YES | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | SURE | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | LOL | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | proof where? | May 09 22:08 |
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Jason^Home | and linux totally got professional design tool | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | like Photoshop | May 09 22:08 |
ender2070 | i still receive xp machines which dont even have SP2 installed, let alone SP3 | May 09 22:08 |
Jason^Home | and professional video editing tools | May 09 22:09 |
Jason^Home | like premiere pro or after effects or sony vegas | May 09 22:09 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:09 |
ender2070 | lots of vista machines with no service packs | May 09 22:09 |
Jason^Home | that's casue you receive machines of pirates | May 09 22:09 |
Jason^Home | not of legit users | May 09 22:09 |
ender2070 | they arent pirates | May 09 22:09 |
Jason^Home | cause legit windows is like bulletproof | May 09 22:09 |
ender2070 | we dont accept them | May 09 22:09 |
Jason^Home | erm legit users have WU enabled by default | May 09 22:09 |
Jason^Home | so dont bs? | May 09 22:09 |
Jason^Home | also few mins ago you told me a bunch of machines are infected from torrented apps | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:10 |
Chips_B_Malroy | vast majority of windows users have some app/game on them non-legit | May 09 22:10 |
ender2070 | WU enabled usually means, by default it asks them to install an update | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | thats called "pirates" FYI | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | no, by default it installs all stuff automatically.. | May 09 22:10 |
ender2070 | no | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | yes | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | I installed winxp, winvista and win7 and all do | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | sry | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:10 |
ender2070 | when you install vista or win7 itgives you 3 options | May 09 22:10 |
ender2070 | auto, ask or off | May 09 22:10 |
ender2070 | default is in the middle, on ask | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | yes and default one with (Recommended) badge is auto | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | no | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | recommended is on auto | May 09 22:10 |
Jason^Home | and its in bold | May 09 22:11 |
Chips_B_Malroy | "Jason^Home> thats called "pirates" FYI" are they taking over ships? | May 09 22:11 |
Jason^Home | sry | May 09 22:11 |
Jason^Home | yes | May 09 22:11 |
Jason^Home | so funny | May 09 22:11 |
Jason^Home | ur funy gui | May 09 22:11 |
ender2070 | pretty sure its not | May 09 22:11 |
Jason^Home | /mode +funyguy Chips_B_Malroy | May 09 22:11 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, if you never have seen windows install, why do you even open your mouth? | May 09 22:11 |
ender2070 | regardless, most of my customers dont have it on | May 09 22:11 |
ender2070 | they choose ask | May 09 22:11 |
Jason^Home | cause only dumfuks would use your services | May 09 22:11 |
Jason^Home | obviously | May 09 22:11 |
ender2070 | i would never let ms blindly install updates on my pc | May 09 22:12 |
ender2070 | they have updates that break stuff ocassionally | May 09 22:12 |
Jason^Home | yes cause ur totally smartest security expert and know everything | May 09 22:12 |
Jason^Home | name me a single one? | May 09 22:12 |
ender2070 | Jason^Home - ask any business IT professional why they are not using auto updates | May 09 22:12 |
ender2070 | please | May 09 22:12 |
Jason^Home | all IT professionals I know are using auto updates | May 09 22:13 |
ender2070 | im tired of arguing with your dumbass | May 09 22:13 |
Jason^Home | :< | May 09 22:13 |
Hababa | no they use WSUS | May 09 22:13 |
Hababa | right | May 09 22:13 |
Jason^Home | im tired of arguing with you, mr. smart who knows everything | May 09 22:13 |
Jason^Home | etc | May 09 22:13 |
ender2070 | you guys are the trolls here harassing us with stupid windows related questions | May 09 22:13 |
Jason^Home | yes cause u totally know everything | May 09 22:13 |
Hababa | I dont tink I posd any questions | May 09 22:13 |
kevin0091 | i would be afraid to leave auto updates on because they can slip in stuff like WGA notifications that waste resources | May 09 22:13 |
Jason^Home | and windows is so totally shit | May 09 22:13 |
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Hababa | beside retorikal ones | May 09 22:13 |
Hababa | ? | May 09 22:13 |
ender2070 | l2spell ? | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | WGA notifications don't run if first validation successes | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | sry | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:14 |
cubezzz | ender2070, just put them on ignore | May 09 22:14 |
ender2070 | i know mirc is lacking spellcheck | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | obv is | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | cause all linux irc clients totally have spellcheck | May 09 22:14 |
cubezzz | MinceR should have just kicked them earlier | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:14 |
MinceR | i was told not to | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | u guys act like you ran out of arguments | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | :< | May 09 22:14 |
cubezzz | oh ok :) | May 09 22:14 |
Chips_B_Malroy | "Jason^Home> all IT professionals I know are using auto updates" must know a lot, spoken by the guy that does not use antivirus | May 09 22:14 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: no, we just got bored of wasting them on you | May 09 22:14 |
Jason^Home | of course I don't use antivirus, because Windows 7 is secure enough not to use resource waster | May 09 22:15 |
Hababa | I use AppLocker | May 09 22:15 |
Jason^Home | I use it too | May 09 22:15 |
Hababa | a virus could not even execute | May 09 22:15 |
Hababa | so | May 09 22:15 |
ender2070 | blind faith | May 09 22:15 |
Jason^Home | sorry but we know about our systems | May 09 22:15 |
ender2070 | it was designed by humans | May 09 22:15 |
Jason^Home | while you cant know anything about yours | May 09 22:15 |
ender2070 | its breakable | May 09 22:15 |
Jason^Home | cause linux is total mess | May 09 22:15 |
cubezzz | closed source guys are too bright | May 09 22:16 |
Jason^Home | yes unlike you | May 09 22:16 |
cubezzz | they enjoy enriching Billionaires | May 09 22:16 |
ender2070 | security through obscurity theory | May 09 22:16 |
ender2070 | lol | May 09 22:16 |
Chips_B_Malroy | they work for Bill | May 09 22:17 |
Jason^Home | yes | May 09 22:18 |
Jason^Home | obv | May 09 22:18 |
Chips_B_Malroy | its their paycheck to troll (Linsux) | May 09 22:18 |
Jason^Home | oh wait | May 09 22:18 |
Jason^Home | its Balmer nowadays | May 09 22:18 |
Jason^Home | Ballmer * | May 09 22:18 |
Jason^Home | w/e | May 09 22:18 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Bill is still the Chairman of the Board, and ownes 8% of the stock | May 09 22:18 |
Chips_B_Malroy | you mean Monkey Boy? | May 09 22:19 |
cubezzz | Sweaty B is their hero | May 09 22:19 |
ender2070 | server2003 and 2008 dont have MU or WU enabled by default | May 09 22:19 |
ender2070 | why is that | May 09 22:19 |
ender2070 | make another excuse | May 09 22:20 |
Chips_B_Malroy | the guy with the sweaty armpits? | May 09 22:20 |
Chips_B_Malroy | the eBallmer? | May 09 22:20 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | he will bury M$ | May 09 22:20 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | looks like we insulted their god and hero, the B guy | May 09 22:22 |
Hababa | sweaty b LOL | May 09 22:22 |
Hababa | I didn't know that one yet | May 09 22:22 |
Chips_B_Malroy | sorry guys, come back and troll some more for M$ | May 09 22:22 |
Hababa | ender2070, also not true | May 09 22:23 |
Hababa | WU is enabled by default | May 09 22:23 |
Hababa | it's on the tasks screen | May 09 22:23 |
Hababa | it's not run instantly ofc | May 09 22:23 |
Hababa | because if you already got WSUS | May 09 22:23 |
Chips_B_Malroy | maybe you can all convince us to go out and buy Vi$ta | May 09 22:23 |
Hababa | you wouldn't want it to sync to ms's update page | May 09 22:23 |
Chips_B_Malroy | lol | May 09 22:23 |
Hababa | and MU would call the EU to v& them | May 09 22:24 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Windows Update is another way of crashing a windows system, I would prefer myself when I used to run windows, to download the updates and install manually | May 09 22:25 |
Hababa | I sure believe you speak of experience there | May 09 22:26 |
Hababa | as windows admin | May 09 22:26 |
Chips_B_Malroy | no, I ran as normal (limited) user on XP when I did run it | May 09 22:27 |
MinceR | the best part of WU is where there are patches hidden in updates that their description doesn't mention | May 09 22:27 |
MinceR | so you either pick and choose and miss something critical because you weren't told | May 09 22:27 |
MinceR | or you trust them blindly and let them install whatever they want | May 09 22:27 |
Jason^Home | maybe cause you dont browse internets on server OSes | May 09 22:28 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:28 |
Jason^Home | <ender2070> server2003 and 2008 dont have MU or WU enabled by default | May 09 22:28 |
Jason^Home | <ender2070> why is that | May 09 22:28 |
ThistleWeb | they may need to patch their dictionary to find a proper definition of "critical" | May 09 22:28 |
ThistleWeb | WGA = critical | May 09 22:28 |
MinceR | it's funny how they insist on emphasising that winblows is a _server_ OS :D | May 09 22:28 |
Chips_B_Malroy | also, because home windows users mostly all run as administrators, the folks that write software for windows, made a lot of apps that need administrator to run | May 09 22:28 |
MinceR | maybe if they say it enough times, it will become true? | May 09 22:29 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, obviously Windows Server 2003 and 2008 and 2008 R2 are server OSes | May 09 22:29 |
Chips_B_Malroy | so a lot of stuff even if you are running as normal/limited user in windows still have to use the run as comand and be administrator to run | May 09 22:29 |
Jason^Home | if that's not obvious to you then you're dumb, sorry | May 09 22:29 |
ThistleWeb | it's stuff like abusing the trust of users with the critical label that makes me think that trusting windows to auto update is insane | May 09 22:29 |
MinceR | yes, obviously | May 09 22:29 |
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MinceR | obviously everything the official m$ marketing material says must be true | May 09 22:30 |
Jason^Home | name says | May 09 22:30 |
Jason^Home | sorry | May 09 22:30 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:30 |
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ThistleWeb | newspapers often have the word "news" in their title, yet only bear a passing resembelance to a news source | May 09 22:30 |
ThistleWeb | even fox news call themselves news | May 09 22:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Windows is the Thypoid Mary of Operating Systems, I made money cleaning out the malware on windows computers. Its 80 to 90% of the problems of computers brought into repair shops. | May 09 22:31 |
ThistleWeb | product titles mean nothing | May 09 22:31 |
Jason^Home | yes obviously | May 09 22:31 |
Jason^Home | oh also | May 09 22:31 |
Jason^Home | guys | May 09 22:31 |
Jason^Home | I am looking for a codec to compress videos from my camera with | May 09 22:31 |
Jason^Home | any suggestions?? | May 09 22:32 |
Chips_B_Malroy | average user is not going set up normal accounts in windows, and know how to use run as | May 09 22:32 |
Jason^Home | run as? | May 09 22:32 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: you've already decided, why bother us? | May 09 22:32 |
Jason^Home | are you 10 years behind? | May 09 22:32 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, nope :/ | May 09 22:32 |
Jason^Home | I have to choose between H264 and Xvid | May 09 22:32 |
MinceR | bad for you | May 09 22:32 |
Jason^Home | no, it's good for me | May 09 22:32 |
Jason^Home | :) | May 09 22:32 |
MinceR | is it for personal, non-commercial use? :> | May 09 22:32 |
Jason^Home | .. obviously | May 09 22:33 |
ender2070 | its for piracy | May 09 22:33 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, FROM MY CAMERA | May 09 22:33 |
Jason^Home | sry | May 09 22:33 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:33 |
ender2070 | yeah camrips @ theatres | May 09 22:33 |
MinceR | CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL | May 09 22:33 |
Jason^Home | yes obv | May 09 22:33 |
Jason^Home | I am ELEKTRI4KA camripper | May 09 22:33 |
Jason^Home | sure | May 09 22:33 |
Jason^Home | etc | May 09 22:33 |
Jason^Home | so, H.264 then | May 09 22:34 |
ender2070 | windows users are generally criminals | May 09 22:34 |
Jason^Home | cause hardware acceleration and best quality to bitrate | May 09 22:34 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, yes, sure | May 09 22:34 |
ender2070 | balmer said his biggest competitor was pirated xp | May 09 22:34 |
Jason^Home | that's why all banking systems use windows | May 09 22:34 |
MinceR | i'm not sure if that was a good argument there, Jason^Home :> | May 09 22:34 |
ender2070 | pirated xp exceeds even the mac userbase | May 09 22:35 |
ThistleWeb | lol | May 09 22:35 |
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Jason^Home | obviously it's more better argument than "zomg h264 is not legal for commercial use zomg" | May 09 22:35 |
Chips_B_Malroy | "Jason^Home> run as?" since you don't know what "run as" is, I conclude you most likely were fibbing about running Windows as a normal user. My guess is you confuse UAC with a true normal user account. | May 09 22:35 |
Jason^Home | while it is until 2016 | May 09 22:35 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: i'm not sure if even xvid is legal for commercial use :> | May 09 22:35 |
Jason^Home | Chips_B_Malroy, I remember that from good old 10 years old XP times | May 09 22:35 |
ThistleWeb | thats the first time I've heard banking as an endorsement for windows | May 09 22:35 |
ThistleWeb | my sides are splitting | May 09 22:35 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, obviously videos I am doing for my friends are commercial use | May 09 22:35 |
MinceR | though it's interesting that your home videos come without an audio track :> | May 09 22:35 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @achitnis: I wonder whether we should declare June 1st as worldwide "Delete-your-Facebook-account Day" to send FB a message | May 09 22:35 | |
MinceR | nobody forbids you from doing business with your friends. | May 09 22:36 |
Jason^Home | they come with audio track, but obviously it will be uncompressed | May 09 22:36 |
Jason^Home | cause audio takes nothing | May 09 22:36 |
Jason^Home | or aac | May 09 22:36 |
Jason^Home | but GOD NO to vorbis | May 09 22:36 |
MinceR | of course | May 09 22:36 |
ThistleWeb | why not wmv? | May 09 22:36 |
Chips_B_Malroy | "Jason^Home> that's why all banking systems use windows" No thats why Banking systems that use windows are getting exploited! | May 09 22:36 |
MinceR | wmv is a container | May 09 22:36 |
ThistleWeb | you're clearly never gonna see any other OS than windows | May 09 22:36 |
MinceR | it goes without saying that he's going to put it in wmv | May 09 22:36 |
Jason^Home | it's vc-1 | May 09 22:36 |
ThistleWeb | so why not go fully MS | May 09 22:36 |
Jason^Home | FYI | May 09 22:36 |
MinceR | anything else would be blasphemy | May 09 22:36 |
Jason^Home | also my netbook runs arch, and my server runs debian | May 09 22:36 |
Jason^Home | so invalid argument | May 09 22:36 |
Jason^Home | also I currently have 2 running Linux VM's | May 09 22:37 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Jason^Home> doesn't know what "run as" is | May 09 22:37 |
Jason^Home | arch and SLED | May 09 22:37 |
MinceR | ah, the old "i really like linux, but" argument | May 09 22:37 |
MinceR | it's been worn away to nothing ages ago. | May 09 22:37 |
Jason^Home | I use, not like | May 09 22:37 |
Jason^Home | -.- | May 09 22:37 |
ender2070 | banks in canada are mostly still running os/2 and aix | May 09 22:37 |
MinceR | same thing | May 09 22:37 |
ender2070 | even the clients | May 09 22:37 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, they are SO outdated? | May 09 22:37 |
Jason^Home | awesome. | May 09 22:37 |
MinceR | it's better to be outdated than insecure and slow :> | May 09 22:37 |
ender2070 | os/2 is so much better than windows that they dont need to be replaced as often | May 09 22:37 |
Jason^Home | but well, what else can you expect from country where you have DSL's? | May 09 22:37 |
MinceR | and unreliable | May 09 22:37 |
Jason^Home | also using :> makes you so totally cool, just like using :3 | May 09 22:38 |
MinceR | oh noes, they dare use DSL in a country! | May 09 22:38 |
ender2070 | if the os/2 machines were unreliable they would've been replaced | May 09 22:38 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: i don't need help to be cool, i'm cool by default | May 09 22:38 |
Chips_B_Malroy | OS/2 MinceR was/is more stable than windose | May 09 22:38 |
Jason^Home | btw theora is vp3 ripoff | May 09 22:38 |
Jason^Home | and vp3 is like 2000 | May 09 22:38 |
Jason^Home | so useless | May 09 22:38 |
ender2070 | matroska is open source | May 09 22:38 |
MinceR | Chips_B_Malroy: don't tell me, tell the m$ fanboy here | May 09 22:38 |
Jason^Home | also theora is not really patent free | May 09 22:38 |
Jason^Home | matroska is container | May 09 22:38 |
Jason^Home | oh but obviously | May 09 22:38 |
ender2070 | ogg is a container | May 09 22:38 |
Jason^Home | I said theora | May 09 22:38 |
Jason^Home | not ogg | May 09 22:38 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: mpeg la hasn't dared attack theora for years | May 09 22:38 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Last.fm is a good way to drown out the sound of your roomie taking a dump in the open plan hotel room. Just sayin' | May 09 22:38 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @rahulsundaram: Unlike #Ubuntu which creates artwork using Apple Mac http://is.gd/c1Gj0 #Fedora artwork is created exclusively by itself | May 09 22:38 | |
Jason^Home | sorry? | May 09 22:38 |
MinceR | there's only FUD | May 09 22:38 |
Jason^Home | cause nobody uses theora | May 09 22:39 |
Jason^Home | sorry? | May 09 22:39 |
ender2070 | nobody uses wmv | May 09 22:39 |
Jason^Home | all porn sites use wmv | May 09 22:39 |
MinceR | nobody uses anything, ever | May 09 22:39 |
Jason^Home | and porn is like 90% of internets | May 09 22:39 |
Jason^Home | so, sorry. | May 09 22:39 |
MinceR | this discussion is a figment of our imagination | May 09 22:39 |
ThistleWeb | Jason^Home: of course you dont vists any sites that use ogg | May 09 22:39 |
ender2070 | porn? | May 09 22:39 |
ender2070 | lol | May 09 22:39 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Jason agrues against free theora so we can all pay for the wheel to be reinvented again | May 09 22:39 |
Jason^Home | ender2070, yes, the thing that is 90% of internet | May 09 22:39 |
Jason^Home | :) | May 09 22:39 |
ender2070 | i guess you need to jerk yourself off not having a gf | May 09 22:39 |
MinceR | dailymotion's beta html5 player uses theora and vorbis | May 09 22:39 |
Jason^Home | Chips_B_Malroy, H.264 is totally free, sorry | May 09 22:39 |
Jason^Home | :( | May 09 22:39 |
ThistleWeb | 264 is not free | May 09 22:40 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, dailymotion is that site with 1 visitor/day? | May 09 22:40 |
ender2070 | i dont care about porn | May 09 22:40 |
Jason^Home | it is | May 09 22:40 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: if you're so sure, use it for commercial purposes | May 09 22:40 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: and get a clue when mpeg la sues you | May 09 22:40 |
Jason^Home | sure will | May 09 22:40 |
ThistleWeb | like any addictive drug they let uit be used free of charge for now | May 09 22:40 |
ender2070 | porn is a scourge to society as well | May 09 22:40 |
ThistleWeb | to get many peeps using it | May 09 22:40 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: no, that's bing | May 09 22:40 |
Jason^Home | sorry but until 2016 another superior codec will be made | May 09 22:40 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:40 |
ThistleWeb | at that point they send the lawyers in to get the licence fees | May 09 22:40 |
Jason^Home | seriously | May 09 22:40 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I didn't know that. I'm sad #Ubuntu doesn't promote free software by requesting #artwork to be done with free software... | May 09 22:40 | |
kevin0091 | i for one am glad I don't have a gf... all my time belongs to me | May 09 22:40 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: yes, and all video recorded and stored until then will magically re-encode itself to the new code | May 09 22:41 |
MinceR | c | May 09 22:41 |
Jason^Home | also they obviously will extend grace period | May 09 22:41 |
MinceR | obviously | May 09 22:41 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, of course it will | May 09 22:41 |
Jason^Home | etc | May 09 22:41 |
ender2070 | or obviously not | May 09 22:41 |
MinceR | because they're so benevolent | May 09 22:41 |
MinceR | and charitable | May 09 22:41 |
ThistleWeb | Jason^Home: "extend grace period"? which means you are at the mercy of a crorp | May 09 22:41 |
Jason^Home | yes | May 09 22:41 |
Jason^Home | ver | May 09 22:41 |
Jason^Home | y | May 09 22:41 |
Jason^Home | https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/1938/ | May 09 22:41 |
ThistleWeb | so why? | May 09 22:41 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Instead, the result is clearly exhibited in the article «Linux is not yet ready to be a practical platform for designers» (bullshit). | May 09 22:41 | |
Jason^Home | firefox got so useful addons | May 09 22:41 |
MinceR | ThistleWeb: to him, being at the mercy of a megacorp is the best state to be in | May 09 22:41 |
ThistleWeb | true | May 09 22:41 |
ThistleWeb | seems it | May 09 22:42 |
ender2070 | yeah | May 09 22:42 |
ender2070 | we all need to rely on apple and ms for formats | May 09 22:42 |
ThistleWeb | well, have fun with the troll, I'm outa here | May 09 22:42 |
Jason^Home | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4327/ yay another awesome addon | May 09 22:42 |
Jason^Home | bai2u | May 09 22:42 |
ender2070 | that way they always plan on linux | May 09 22:42 |
ender2070 | play | May 09 22:42 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: stop randomly linking addons, it's boring and pointless | May 09 22:42 |
Jason^Home | plz | May 09 22:42 |
Jason^Home | those are 2 most functional firefox addons | May 09 22:42 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: somehow come to terms that ie has no useful addons, silently | May 09 22:42 |
Jason^Home | so basically | May 09 22:42 |
Jason^Home | useful for u | May 09 22:43 |
Jason^Home | IE has a lot of useful addons | May 09 22:43 |
MinceR | because nobody cares | May 09 22:43 |
Jason^Home | and it's Accelerators feature is unique | May 09 22:43 |
Jason^Home | and awesome | May 09 22:43 |
Jason^Home | sorry | May 09 22:43 |
ender2070 | does IE sandbox each tab seperately yet? | May 09 22:43 |
MinceR | so when it is going to get the "supports standard html and css" feature? | May 09 22:43 |
ender2070 | does IE pass acid3 yet too? | May 09 22:43 |
Jason^Home | acid3 is like draft | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | so sorry | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | O GUIS | May 09 22:44 |
ender2070 | chrome passes it | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | WE HAVE A DRAFT | May 09 22:44 |
ender2070 | so sorry | May 09 22:44 |
schestowitz | Lame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Mkd-4_c5c&feature=digest | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | sorry but doesnt changes the fact HTML 5 and CSS 3 are drafts | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | and not approved standards | May 09 22:44 |
MinceR | pretty much any mainstream browser always scores higher on all acid tests than ie | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | so ACID3 basically shitbork | May 09 22:44 |
MinceR | so sorry | May 09 22:44 |
ender2070 | IE wont support them till a year after they are finalized | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | sorry but | May 09 22:44 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Just added myself to the #amwriting, #writer, #weblit, and #webfiction Twitter lists on http://twibes.com | May 09 22:44 | |
Hababa | MinceR, IE9 preview does already score 70/100 | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | IE supports ALL approved standards | May 09 22:44 |
MinceR | ie won't support them ever | May 09 22:44 |
Hababa | the current preview I mean | May 09 22:44 |
Jason^Home | also e.g. opera fakes acid3 | May 09 22:45 |
Jason^Home | so we cant be sure about chrome too | May 09 22:45 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: if you define it as approved by ballmer | May 09 22:45 |
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Jason^Home | approved by w3c | May 09 22:45 |
Jason^Home | -.- | May 09 22:45 |
ender2070 | FUD | May 09 22:45 |
Chips_B_Malroy | I am convertiing another windows user to Linux next week | May 09 22:45 |
MinceR | then again, m$ is taking over w3c too | May 09 22:45 |
ender2070 | yeah | May 09 22:45 |
Jason^Home | Chips_B_Malroy, happy for u rly | May 09 22:45 |
ender2070 | ms is taking over w3c, they got Jeff the pro-ms troll from novell in there | May 09 22:45 |
Chips_B_Malroy | no more windows malware and crashes for that one | May 09 22:45 |
MinceR | maybe official html5 and css3 will be "do exactly as ie6 would" | May 09 22:45 |
Jason^Home | yes | May 09 22:46 |
Jason^Home | totall | May 09 22:46 |
Jason^Home | y? | May 09 22:46 |
ender2070 | all GOOD browsers already support the draft standards | May 09 22:46 |
Jason^Home | yes cause draft is totally useful | May 09 22:47 |
ender2070 | yes it is | May 09 22:47 |
Jason^Home | and websites wont break if drafts will be changed | May 09 22:47 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:47 |
ender2070 | there may be some slight modifications needed | May 09 22:47 |
MinceR | it's kind of difficult to develop such a standard without working implementations, you know | May 09 22:47 |
ender2070 | better than waiting 2 years before they can even write a line of code | May 09 22:47 |
Jason^Home | yes seriously | May 09 22:48 |
ender2070 | why do you find DRAFT N wifi products out 3 years before Wifi N is finalized | May 09 22:48 |
Jason^Home | cause draft and final N are SO TOTALLY compatible | May 09 22:48 |
Jason^Home | wait not | May 09 22:48 |
ender2070 | because people serious about the technology or specifications will USE the draft | May 09 22:48 |
Jason^Home | implementing things that wont work in mainstream browser (IE 8) is retarded | May 09 22:48 |
MinceR | claiming that ie8 is the mainstream browser is retarded | May 09 22:48 |
ender2070 | IE wont stay there long | May 09 22:48 |
ender2070 | IE6 is mainstream | May 09 22:48 |
ender2070 | IE7 and 8 arent | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | sorry but | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | ppl say that since like | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | 1998 | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | when some ver of netscape was released | May 09 22:49 |
ender2070 | IE6 came out in 2001 | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | still there | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:49 |
MinceR | ie6 is not a browser, it's a backdoor with a gui | May 09 22:49 |
ender2070 | dumbass fuck | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | OH COOL | May 09 22:49 |
Hababa | IE7 and 8 have equivalent market share | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | WHEN YOU RUN OUT OF ARGUMENTS | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | U MOVE TO INSULTS | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | MAKES U SMART | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | etc | May 09 22:49 |
Hababa | IE6 is going constantly down | May 09 22:49 |
ender2070 | and you move to caps | May 09 22:49 |
Hababa | and IE6 is almost 10 years old | May 09 22:49 |
Hababa | so | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | IE 8 is going constantly up | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:49 |
MinceR | note: | May 09 22:49 |
MinceR | EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | yes | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | very | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | so | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:49 |
ender2070 | with the browser ballot, ie will fall even more | May 09 22:49 |
Jason^Home | I use Logitech MOMO with force feedback | May 09 22:50 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: please press enter after every letter | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | wat about u | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | o | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | h | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | s | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | u | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | r | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | e | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | i | May 09 22:50 |
MinceR | and put a '?' line after every such letter | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | w | May 09 22:50 |
MinceR | (don't) | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | i | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | l | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | l | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | k | May 09 22:50 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:50 |
MinceR | now try to type like a creature that has more than 2 neurons | May 09 22:50 |
ender2070 | impossible for him | May 09 22:51 |
MinceR | i know it's challenging for you, but you could at least try | May 09 22:51 |
Jason^Home | also why linux doesn't even has working drivers for ATI cards | May 09 22:51 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:51 |
MinceR | because ati never cares | May 09 22:51 |
ender2070 | fud | May 09 22:51 |
ender2070 | ati does have working drivers | May 09 22:51 |
Jason^Home | sure | May 09 22:51 |
Jason^Home | ? | May 09 22:51 |
ender2070 | or well, the volunteers do | May 09 22:51 |
MinceR | ultimately, it's the hw developer's responsibility to provide drivers | May 09 22:51 |
MinceR | if the volunteers do, that's a bonus | May 09 22:51 |
ender2070 | ati couldnt be bothered to do it themselves, lazy and cheap | May 09 22:51 |
ender2070 | and going out of business | May 09 22:51 |
MinceR | afaik ati couldn't even code good drivers for windows | May 09 22:52 |
ender2070 | they had to sue and settle with intel to gain enough funds for another couple years | May 09 22:52 |
cubezzz | there's some truth to that | May 09 22:52 |
cubezzz | but what are you going to use? | May 09 22:52 |
ender2070 | intel gfx | May 09 22:52 |
cubezzz | can you be more specific? | May 09 22:53 |
ender2070 | intel graphics | May 09 22:53 |
MinceR | intel gma, except gma 500 and gma 600 | May 09 22:53 |
cubezzz | OK | May 09 22:53 |
ender2070 | they make, provide and support open source drivers | May 09 22:53 |
Jason^Home | but those cards can't do even 1 fps in nexuiz | May 09 22:53 |
MinceR | (though i've heard there were troubles with x3### and x4### too, but i'm not sure if that source can be trusted) | May 09 22:53 |
cubezzz | when I suggested the intel board you didn't seem to think it was very good | May 09 22:53 |
ender2070 | cubezzz - it was old | May 09 22:54 |
MinceR | actually, gma 950 worked pretty well with ut1 :) | May 09 22:54 |
Jason^Home | it woekd pretty well with asteroids too! | May 09 22:54 |
ender2070 | the intel cards do very well | May 09 22:54 |
ender2070 | just ignore this FUDer | May 09 22:54 |
cubezzz | I ignored both of them a while ago | May 09 22:54 |
ender2070 | if he cant steal games and play them on linux hes not happy | May 09 22:55 |
MinceR | he doesn't want to play them on linux | May 09 22:55 |
MinceR | his idol ballmer wouldn't approve | May 09 22:55 |
Jason^Home | <ender2070> if he cant steal games and play them on linux hes not happy | May 09 22:55 |
Jason^Home | steal? | May 09 22:55 |
Jason^Home | u srs? | May 09 22:55 |
ender2070 | he really shouldnt be here at all | May 09 22:55 |
MinceR | agreed | May 09 22:55 |
Jason^Home | http://steamcommunity.com/id/shad0www1/games?tab=all | May 09 22:55 |
Jason^Home | sorry but I don't steal games | May 09 22:55 |
MinceR | my hands are tied though :> | May 09 22:56 |
Jason^Home | etc | May 09 22:56 |
cubezzz | be your own man :) | May 09 22:56 |
MinceR | wow, he can link to a random steam profile | May 09 22:56 |
ender2070 | yeah lol | May 09 22:56 |
*MinceR wonders how much time did he take to learn this awesome skill | May 09 22:56 | |
Jason^Home | MinceR, totally random | May 09 22:56 |
Jason^Home | oh wait it's mine :( | May 09 22:56 |
kevin0091 | why does everybody want steam so badly? now the companies can remotely take away your games after you purchase them! | May 09 22:56 |
Jason^Home | I can change name to Jason if you wish | May 09 22:56 |
MinceR | Jason^Home: i think the current name reflects you better, actually | May 09 22:56 |
Jason^Home | yes it does | May 09 22:57 |
Jason^Home | etc | May 09 22:57 |
cubezzz | fortunately we don't see those types on #coreboot or ##amiga | May 09 22:57 |
kevin0091 | i only buy games from gog.com or from the used market now | May 09 22:57 |
ender2070 | Counter-Strike: Source - 216.9 hrs on record | May 09 22:57 |
ender2070 | why dont you get a life? ur too 1337 for us | May 09 22:57 |
Hababa | lol | May 09 22:57 |
MinceR | CS is for losers :> | May 09 22:57 |
Jason^Home | MinceR, no, it's not for you | May 09 22:57 |
Jason^Home | sorry :( | May 09 22:57 |
MinceR | agreed, it's not for me, it's for losers | May 09 22:57 |
MinceR | like i said above | May 09 22:57 |
Jason^Home | erm | May 09 22:58 |
Jason^Home | first you say it's for you | May 09 22:58 |
Jason^Home | then you say it's not for you, but for you. | May 09 22:58 |
Jason^Home | I miss the logic. | May 09 22:58 |
Jason^Home | k, going to sleep now, bye guys-who-never-have-valid arguments :* will be back tomorrow ofc | May 09 22:58 |
MinceR | no, i said it's for losers. i didn't say it's for me | May 09 22:58 |
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ender2070 | by communist | May 09 22:58 |
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*schestowitz removes ban on FreedomOrDeath!*@* | May 09 23:06 | |
*schestowitz removes ban on JENKINS!*@* | May 09 23:06 | |
*schestowitz removes ban on Lefty_!*@* | May 09 23:06 | |
cubezzz | why so many bans? :) | May 09 23:06 |
Hababa | oh lol Jason^Home is already on the b& list | May 09 23:07 |
MinceR | which one is he? | May 09 23:07 |
Hababa | the one who is 6 times on it | May 09 23:08 |
Hababa | :D | May 09 23:08 |
Hababa | oh and | May 09 23:08 |
Hababa | Leroy = cXhristian | May 09 23:08 |
Hababa | that is double as well | May 09 23:08 |
Hababa | dunno the rest | May 09 23:08 |
cubezzz | I saw 80.232.252.103 | May 09 23:08 |
schestowitz | Nymshifters | May 09 23:08 |
schestowitz | <ThistleWeb> newspapers often have the word "news" in their title, yet only bear a passing resembelance to a news source >> well, some call USENET groups "newsgroups" | May 09 23:09 |
*schestowitz removes ban on Leroy!*@* | May 09 23:09 | |
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*schestowitz removes ban on cXhristian!*@* | May 09 23:09 | |
*schestowitz removes ban on claymore!*@* | May 09 23:09 | |
*schestowitz removes ban on fredieC!*@* | May 09 23:09 | |
*schestowitz removes ban on trenaught!*@* | May 09 23:09 | |
Hababa | no clue who the others were tho | May 09 23:09 |
cubezzz | IP from Latvia | May 09 23:09 |
schestowitz | Same people, different nyms | May 09 23:09 |
MinceR | there was a couple of Mutexes | May 09 23:09 |
schestowitz | Abusive trolls who attack people and flood the channel with bot attacks | May 09 23:10 |
cubezzz | haven't seen mutex in quite a while | May 09 23:10 |
MinceR | i don't miss him | May 09 23:10 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: many of the bans above are his | May 09 23:10 |
Hababa | only the Shd ones | May 09 23:10 |
schestowitz | He also used proxies | May 09 23:10 |
Hababa | ( afaik ) | May 09 23:10 |
schestowitz | Then called me names... vulgar ones too | May 09 23:10 |
cubezzz | hmmm, we are publicly logged | May 09 23:11 |
cubezzz | you would think that would make people a bit more careful | May 09 23:11 |
MinceR | people in general, yes | May 09 23:11 |
MinceR | kids that go around trolling with m$-apologist bullshit wouldn't | May 09 23:11 |
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Techrights | Hello World! | May 09 23:12 |
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Hababa | did you fix the spam bug btw? | May 09 23:12 |
*schestowitz has kicked Hababa from #boycottnovell (User term) | May 09 23:12 | |
MinceR | :D | May 09 23:12 |
cubezzz | finally | May 09 23:12 |
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*schestowitz has kicked Hababa from #boycottnovell (User term) | May 09 23:12 | |
schestowitz | The banlist doesn't feel empty anymore | May 09 23:13 |
cubezzz | doesn't he have anything better to do? | May 09 23:13 |
schestowitz | Starting afresh | May 09 23:13 |
schestowitz | These are the same old trolls with new nyms | May 09 23:13 |
schestowitz | I expect them to send a flooder now | May 09 23:13 |
MinceR | then we should kickban them right off the bat | May 09 23:13 |
MinceR | instead of entertaining them half the day | May 09 23:13 |
schestowitz | Yeah | May 09 23:13 |
schestowitz | Notice how he came together with the flooder | May 09 23:14 |
schestowitz | He was here before | May 09 23:14 |
MinceR | gn | May 09 23:15 |
schestowitz | Or maybe that was him (using the freenode gateway) | May 09 23:15 |
cubezzz | later | May 09 23:15 |
*schestowitz gives channel operator status to cubezzz | May 09 23:15 | |
*schestowitz gives channel operator status to cubezzz | May 09 23:15 | |
schestowitz | I'm gonna do some posts now | May 09 23:15 |
*MinceR blesses cubezzz's banhammer | May 09 23:15 | |
schestowitz | Microsoft exodus first... | May 09 23:15 |
cubezzz | lol | May 09 23:15 |
schestowitz | I've used up all the pictures of sinking ships | May 09 23:16 |
schestowitz | The free ones anyway | May 09 23:16 |
schestowitz | I'll try MediaWiki | May 09 23:16 |
schestowitz | The ships are like the chorus | May 09 23:17 |
schestowitz | Recognisable sign... we've had like 30 ship photos in BN | May 09 23:17 |
schestowitz | Oh wait... | May 09 23:17 |
schestowitz | BP | May 09 23:17 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=ship+sink&go=Go | May 09 23:18 |
Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 09 23:18 |
MinceR | :D | May 09 23:18 |
cubezzz | imagine people insulting me for having a long lasting computer :) | May 09 23:18 |
cubezzz | I mean that's just lame | May 09 23:18 |
cubezzz | I paid a lot of $$$ for this Tyan board | May 09 23:19 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Mutex was Linsux | May 09 23:20 |
cubezzz | that guy is just a sociopath | May 09 23:20 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_050628-N-8772M-005_The_stern_of_the_amphibious_assault_ship_USS_Peleliu_%28LHA_5%29_sinks_into_the_waters_of_the_Pacific_Ocean_as_the_well_deck_opens.jpg | May 09 23:20 |
Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 09 23:20 |
schestowitz | United States Navy has many public domain photos for me | May 09 23:21 |
schestowitz | I'm creeating a new directory called "Ships" | May 09 23:21 |
ender2070 | perhaps you should use that famous downed communist blimp | May 09 23:22 |
ender2070 | not just ships | May 09 23:22 |
cubezzz | use the Hindenburg :) | May 09 23:22 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I wonder if Karl Marx was predicting Vista/7 when he said "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." #microsoft #mvp ;) | May 09 23:22 | |
ender2070 | the hindenburg | May 09 23:22 |
ender2070 | yeah | May 09 23:23 |
ender2070 | :) | May 09 23:23 |
ender2070 | perfect with the karl marx quote | May 09 23:23 |
ender2070 | LOL | May 09 23:23 |
cubezzz | ender2070, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Intel made any video cards | May 09 23:23 |
ender2070 | not physical 'cards' | May 09 23:23 |
cubezzz | they seem to be integrated with the motherboard | May 09 23:23 |
ender2070 | integrated graphics chipsets | May 09 23:24 |
cubezzz | ok, so what would be a good integrated graphic chipset or mobo? | May 09 23:24 |
Chips_B_Malroy | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20004509-37.html Report: Apple developing a Flash alternative | May 09 23:24 |
Techrights | Title: Report: Apple developing a Flash alternative | Apple - CNET News .::. Size~: 232.61 KB | May 09 23:24 |
cubezzz | since the DG45FC isn't good... | May 09 23:25 |
ender2070 | what are you looking for | May 09 23:25 |
ender2070 | the DG945FC is fucking OLD | May 09 23:25 |
cubezzz | something with an open video driver and coreboot support | May 09 23:26 |
ender2070 | it came out like 5 years ago | May 09 23:26 |
cubezzz | or even just open video driver on it's own | May 09 23:26 |
cubezzz | FSF seem to like ATI | May 09 23:26 |
ender2070 | odd that they do | May 09 23:26 |
ender2070 | Intel funds more open source than AMD/ATI | May 09 23:27 |
cubezzz | ok, the nouveau guys pointed me here: | May 09 23:27 |
cubezzz | http://intellinuxgraphics.org/documentation.html | May 09 23:27 |
Techrights | Title: Intel Linux Graphics: Documentation .::. Size~: 11.75 KB | May 09 23:27 |
cubezzz | is there anything on that list you like? | May 09 23:27 |
ender2070 | quite a few | May 09 23:28 |
ender2070 | anything above the G35 | May 09 23:28 |
cubezzz | ok | May 09 23:29 |
ender2070 | thats the oldest good intel chipset | May 09 23:29 |
ender2070 | im running a p35 board myself | May 09 23:29 |
ender2070 | which is the same thing minus the integrated graphics | May 09 23:29 |
cubezzz | ok, so a laptop with GM45 would be decent then | May 09 23:29 |
ender2070 | i use nvidia | May 09 23:29 |
ender2070 | yeah | May 09 23:29 |
cubezzz | I've been reading the coreboot tutorials, they all recommend a bios saver first | May 09 23:33 |
cubezzz | seems like no one in Canada sells them | May 09 23:33 |
ender2070 | just get your board brand new from canada computers | May 09 23:33 |
ender2070 | their techs are noobs they wont know what you did | May 09 23:33 |
Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2010-05-06-editorial06_ST_N.htm | May 09 23:34 |
Techrights | Title: Our view on the world economy: Greek debt crisis offers preview of what awaits U.S. - USATODAY.com .::. Size~: 54.36 KB | May 09 23:34 |
ender2070 | Chips_B_Malroy - interesting but i've already heard about the US economy's inevitable crash | May 09 23:34 |
cubezzz | didn't it crash already? | May 09 23:34 |
Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.wcbs880.com/Mixed-Bag/6993316 | May 09 23:34 |
Techrights | Title: April Unemployment Report Is A Mixed Bag - WCBS NEWSRADIO 880 .::. Size~: 46.11 KB | May 09 23:35 |
cubezzz | I thought things were getting better | May 09 23:35 |
ender2070 | it didnt crash hard enough | May 09 23:35 |
ender2070 | they'll try harder next time | May 09 23:35 |
cubezzz | ender2070, do you know about these axiom video cards for laptops? | May 09 23:36 |
Chips_B_Malroy | not sure how it can be a mixed bag, when the official unemployment rate went from 9.7 to 9.9%. and 66,000 of those new jobs were census takers who will be out of work soon | May 09 23:36 |
ender2070 | axiom? no | May 09 23:36 |
cubezzz | I think it's an ATI thing | May 09 23:36 |
cubezzz | some folks are able to upgrade the video cards in their laptops | May 09 23:36 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Sorry to be all doom and gloom | May 09 23:36 |
ender2070 | its okay Chips | May 09 23:37 |
cubezzz | we need some good news too :) | May 09 23:37 |
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schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Slava1917Moonsund.jpg | May 09 23:37 |
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schestowitz | So many ships.... from WW2 and beforehand | May 09 23:37 |
ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - i know alot of scarier things | May 09 23:38 |
Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/can-us-avoid-european-contagion | May 09 23:38 |
Techrights | Title: Can the U.S. Avoid European Contagion? | The Weekly Standard .::. Size~: 56.92 KB | May 09 23:38 |
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cubezzz | ok, WW1 was pretty scary | May 09 23:39 |
ender2070 | people should be worried about the IMF | May 09 23:39 |
cubezzz | mustard gas? trench warfare? | May 09 23:39 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ARA_Belgrano_sinking.jpg | May 09 23:39 |
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ender2070 | cubezzz - mustard gas isnt scary anymore, i got a childrens chemistry book which has a solution for it | May 09 23:39 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HIJMS_Tomozuru-1945.jpg | May 09 23:39 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | http://hothardware.com/News/ExoPC-Brings-Windows-7-To-116-Tablet/ someone made a 5 hour windows7 tablet? | May 09 23:40 |
Techrights | Title: ExoPC Brings Windows 7 To 11.6" Tablet - HotHardware .::. Size~: 37.12 KB | May 09 23:40 |
cubezzz | plus all the diseases the soldiers got in the trenches, nasty stuff | May 09 23:40 |
ender2070 | high tech: pour amonia into a rag and breathe, low tech: piss in a rag and breathe | May 09 23:40 |
schestowitz | "During the Allied invasion of Sicily the SS Robert Rowan (Liberty ship K-40) explodes after being hit by a Ju 88 German bomber off of Gela, Sicily (Italy), on (11 July 1943)." http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SC180476.jpg | May 09 23:41 |
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schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Panay_sinking_after_Japanese_air_attack.jpg | May 09 23:41 |
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cubezzz | Toshiba Satellite looks good, it has intel GM45 | May 09 23:41 |
schestowitz | Perfect for Microsoft | May 09 23:42 |
schestowitz | It's Red. | May 09 23:42 |
schestowitz | It's Explorer | May 09 23:42 |
cubezzz | after oiahm (sp?) told me 3.5" disks only last 7 years it's got me worried | May 09 23:42 |
schestowitz | Oops. THis one: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Explorer-sinking-2.jpg | May 09 23:42 |
Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 09 23:42 |
schestowitz | November 1915(1915-11) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Endurance_Final_Sinking.jpg | May 09 23:43 |
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cubezzz | the silly thing is... Stallman doesn't even really like his Lemote | May 09 23:43 |
cubezzz | you know why? | May 09 23:43 |
cubezzz | the keyboard is small and the screen is tiny :) | May 09 23:43 |
cubezzz | I think I could find a better alternative | May 09 23:44 |
ender2070 | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704370704575228164133105390.html?mod=WSJ_business_EconomyNewsBucket | May 09 23:44 |
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schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Battle_of_Chemulpo.jpg | May 09 23:45 |
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ender2070 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1269587/Crisis-crisis-EU-demands-7bn-Britain-member-states.html | May 09 23:45 |
Techrights | Title: Crisis, what crisis? EU demands £7bn more from Britain and other member states | Mail Online .::. Size~: 65.81 KB | May 09 23:45 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Saratoga_versinkt_im_Pazifik.jpg | May 09 23:46 |
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schestowitz | ender2070: yeah... | May 09 23:46 |
ender2070 | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/may/05/uk-budget-deficit-worse-than-greece | May 09 23:46 |
Techrights | Title: UK budget deficit 'to surpass Greece's as worst in EU' | Business | The Guardian .::. Size~: 180.77 KB | May 09 23:46 |
schestowitz | UK might need a loan | May 09 23:46 |
schestowitz | Instead it is being charged | May 09 23:46 |
schestowitz | ender2070: beat me to it | May 09 23:46 |
ender2070 | and chila will earn 7 billion | May 09 23:46 |
ender2070 | china* | May 09 23:47 |
schestowitz | These pictures are depressing... http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HMS_POPE_propag_pic.jpg | May 09 23:47 |
Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 09 23:47 |
schestowitz | Think of all the people who drowned in these boats | May 09 23:47 |
cubezzz | sometimes I wonder does any country have a surplus? | May 09 23:47 |
schestowitz | Or blown to pieces by the explosions | May 09 23:47 |
cubezzz | maybe China and Germany | May 09 23:48 |
ender2070 | cubezzz - I think they all owe the world bank/IMF something | May 09 23:48 |
schestowitz | Watch the size of this thing: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USS_West_Virginia_sunk-Pearl_Harbor-7Dec41.jpg | May 09 23:49 |
Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 09 23:49 |
schestowitz | it's mostly submerged | May 09 23:49 |
ender2070 | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/7662840/Rioting-Greeks-throw-petrol-bombs-at-police.html | May 09 23:49 |
Techrights | Title: Rioting Greeks throw petrol bombs at police - Telegraph .::. Size~: 59.47 KB | May 09 23:49 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Burmah_Agate.jpg | May 09 23:50 |
Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 09 23:50 |
schestowitz | "On November 1, 1979, the Burmah Agate collided with the freighter Mimosa southeast of Galveston Entrance in the Gulf of Mexico. An estimated 2.6 million gallons of oil was released into the environment; another 7.8 million gallons was consumed by the fire onboard." | May 09 23:50 |
schestowitz | The BP disaster just did about 200k gallons. maybe per day | May 09 23:50 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Explosion_of_the_battleship_Yamato.jpg "April 1945 Smoke rises to the clouds shortly after the Japanese battleship Yamato capsized, exploded and sank after receiving many bomb and torpedo hits from U.S. Navy carrier planes north of Okinawa, 7 April 1945. Escorting destroyers are visible to the left of the smoke." | May 09 23:51 |
Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 09 23:51 |
ender2070 | people should be watching greece | May 09 23:51 |
ender2070 | stuff like that is going to happen everywhere | May 09 23:51 |
cubezzz | yikes | May 09 23:52 |
ender2070 | "Union leaders are hopeful that the May Day protests will highlight Greek resistance to the wage cuts, tax rises and pension reductions expected to be implemented." | May 09 23:52 |
ender2070 | lol | May 09 23:52 |
kevin0091 | just edited my first PKGBUILD and am now compiling on arch linux | May 09 23:52 |
ender2070 | "greek resistance" = "petrol bombs" | May 09 23:52 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Oscar_Austin_%28DDG_79%29_fires_at_the_ex-USS_Conolly_%28DD-979%29.jpg | May 09 23:53 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] 5* ♺ @celso: Mark Cuban on Wall Street. "The best analogy for traders ? They are (black hat) hackers." http://30hq.sl.pt | May 09 23:53 | |
Techrights | Title: What Business is Wall Street In ? « blog maverick .::. Size~: 41.91 KB | May 09 23:53 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Oriskany_submerged.jpg | May 09 23:54 |
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ender2070 | In economics, austerity is when a national government reduces its spending in order to pay back creditors. Austerity is usually required when a government's fiscal deficit spending is felt to be unsustainable. | May 09 23:55 |
ender2070 | Development projects, welfare programs and other social spending are common areas of spending for cuts. In many countries, austerity measures have been associated with short-term standard of living declines until economic conditions improved once fiscal balance was achieved (such as in the United Kingdom under Margaret Thatcher, Canada under Jean Chrétien, and Spain under González). | May 09 23:55 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra 5* ♺ @celso: Mark Cuban on Wall Street. "The best analogy for traders ? They are (black hat) hackers." http://30hq.sl.pt | May 09 23:55 | |
Techrights | Title: What Business is Wall Street In ? « blog maverick .::. Size~: 41.91 KB | May 09 23:55 |
ender2070 | http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/04/is-plan-to-replace-dollar-with-sdrs-and.html | May 09 23:56 |
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schestowitz | photo the submarine USS Grunion http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Grunion_%28SS_216%29.jpg | May 09 23:57 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | they are projecting Greece economy to decline 3.5% next year. When you consider how bad things already are there | May 09 23:57 |
schestowitz | These are probably costing about $300,000,000 to make these dau | May 09 23:57 |
schestowitz | *days | May 09 23:57 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USS_William_D._Porter_%28DD-579%29_sinking.jpg " | May 09 23:58 |
Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 09 23:58 |
schestowitz | USS William D. Porter (DD-579) sinking.jpg | May 09 23:58 |
schestowitz | USS William D. Porter (DD-579) sinking after she was near-missed by a "Kamikaze" suicide aircraft off Okinawa, 10 June 1945. USS LCS-86 and another LCS are alongside, taking off her crew. Though not actually hit by the enemy plane, William D. Porter received fatal underwater damage from the near-by explosion. | May 09 23:58 |
Chips_B_Malroy | one of the links was talking about the US getting its credit rating reduces if it keeps borrowing | May 09 23:58 |
schestowitz | [Support ships are USS LCS(L)(3)-86 and USS LCS(L)(3)-122 behind] | May 09 23:58 |
schestowitz | A friend of mine was born 3 days after ww2 ended | May 09 23:59 |
schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: give it to Moody's | May 09 23:59 |
schestowitz | It puts AAA on everything if you bribe them enough | May 09 23:59 |
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