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sebsebsebschestowitz: Been keeping up to date on Ubuntu news or?May 11 00:00
sebsebsebWhat you think of Unity?May 11 00:00
sebsebsebDaemonFC: What do you think of it even?May 11 00:01
sebsebsebhttp://njpatel.blogspot.com/2010/05/unity.htmlMay 11 00:01
TechrightsTitle: the dude abides: Unity .::. Size~: 82.96 KBMay 11 00:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #GNU #Linux Comparisons/Benchmark Published http://ur1.ca/00516 http://ur1.ca/00518 http://ur1.ca/00519 http://ur1.ca/0051aMay 11 00:03
TechrightsTitle: Boot race video: Ubuntu 10.04 Vs Windows 7 | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 84.04 KBMay 11 00:03
TechrightsTitle: [Phoronix] Mac OS X 10.6.3 vs. Windows 7 vs. Ubuntu 10.04 Benchmarks .::. Size~: 19.71 KBMay 11 00:03
TechrightsTitle: My experiments with Linux: Benchmark of Windows 7 vs Ubuntu comparision may be flawed under uneven environments .::. Size~: 131.8 KBMay 11 00:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: Already been on that OMG Ubuntu linkMay 11 00:03
sebsebsebblog entry I meanMay 11 00:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sony Pressured to Compensate for or Return #GNU #Linux Support http://ur1.ca/0051q http://ur1.ca/0051rMay 11 00:05
TechrightsTitle: Blogomatic3000  » Blog Archive   » Two more lawsuits levelled at Sony over the PS3 Linux debacle .::. Size~: 49.73 KBMay 11 00:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Geekbox Boots #GNU #Linux from USB, Sony Vaio Comes with GNU/Linux Desktop http://ur1.ca/00523 http://ur1.ca/00524May 11 00:09
TechrightsTitle: Geekbox | popey.com blog .::. Size~: 45.2 KBMay 11 00:09
TechrightsTitle: Sony VAIO VPCEC1M1E/WI review from TechRadar UK's expert reviews of Laptops and netbooks .::. Size~: 66.51 KBMay 11 00:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux on Big #Servers : Already Mission Accomplished http://ur1.ca/0052d http://ur1.ca/0052eMay 11 00:10
TechrightsTitle: London Stock Exchange creates virtual Turquoise access ahead of Linux big-bang .::. Size~: 94.51 KBMay 11 00:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Adoption of #GNU #Linux in Businesses in #India http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20100510/feature01.shtmlMay 11 00:11
TechrightsTitle: State of Linux in the Indian enterprise - Express Computer .::. Size~: 27.02 KBMay 11 00:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ARM Could Help Build Energy-efficient #GNU #Linux Servers http://ur1.ca/0052lMay 11 00:14
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TechrightsTitle: ARM dips toe into server chip design | Servers | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 36.71 KBMay 11 00:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Linux Kernel Space 2.6.34 and Datalight Flash File System http://ur1.ca/00535 http://ur1.ca/00536May 11 00:15
TechrightsTitle: Latest Datalight Flash File System Brings 20 Millisecond Mount Times to Linux Through Kernel Versions 2.6.33 - PR.com .::. Size~: 17.53 KBMay 11 00:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Command Line in #Linux Sometimes Beats Everything Else (on Any Platform) http://ur1.ca/0055h http://ur1.ca/0055iMay 11 00:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Proprietary Software is Bad: Examples from #Hulu and #Adobe http://ur1.ca/0055uMay 11 00:27
TechrightsTitle: 5 Things Easier To Do In The Command Line [Linux] .::. Size~: 38.6 KBMay 11 00:27
TechrightsTitle: You secretly love the command line, dont you? « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 59.29 KBMay 11 00:27
TechrightsTitle: Hulu and Adobe Not Friendly to 64 Bit Linux? | Nocturnal Slacker .::. Size~: 65.81 KBMay 11 00:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proprietary Games Coming to GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/00562 http://ur1.ca/00563 http://ur1.ca/00565 http://ur1.ca/00566May 11 00:29
TechrightsTitle: Penguin Pete's Blog .::. Size~: 29.33 KBMay 11 00:29
TechrightsTitle: Linux Gaming News  » Blog Archive   » The State Of Mac And GNU/Linux Gaming  By Wolfire Games .::. Size~: 38.85 KBMay 11 00:29
TechrightsTitle: [Phoronix] At This Rate, Don't Be Surprised If You See Steam Soon .::. Size~: 16.17 KBMay 11 00:29
TechrightsTitle: [Phoronix] Those Digging Into Steam On Linux Make More Progress .::. Size~: 16.3 KBMay 11 00:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why It Pays Off to Port #Games to GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/0056d http://ur1.ca/0056e http://ur1.ca/0056f http://ur1.ca/0056gMay 11 00:31
TechrightsTitle: Pay What You Like, Say Indie Game Makers - PCWorld .::. Size~: 67.93 KBMay 11 00:31
TechrightsTitle: 8 Best Massively Multiplayer Online Role-playing Games (MMORPG) for Linux | TechSource .::. Size~: 126.36 KBMay 11 00:31
TechrightsTitle: Thoughts on Technology: Why there is a Market for Linux Games .::. Size~: 98.87 KBMay 11 00:31
TechrightsTitle: Linux users the most generous?  liberal in giving or sharing; unselfish « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 33.17 KBMay 11 00:31
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Blacksburg, VA wants to know when it will be getting $5,579.27 from the Westboro Baptist Church for bodygaurd services http://ur1.ca/0056cMay 11 00:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Boy, there's LOTS of news today about Linux gaming!May 11 00:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New List of #MMORPG #Games for #GNU #Linux http://www.junauza.com/2010/05/8-best-mmorpg-games-for-linux.htmlMay 11 00:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Formula Retro and #LinuX Gamers Live http://ur1.ca/znn7 http://ur1.ca/0056tMay 11 00:35
TechrightsTitle: 8 Best Massively Multiplayer Online Role-playing Games (MMORPG) for Linux | TechSource .::. Size~: 126.36 KBMay 11 00:35
TechrightsTitle: Free Gamer - Open Source Games: Formula Retro .::. Size~: 105.57 KBMay 11 00:35
TechrightsTitle: LinuX Gamers Live - A Revolution in Linux Gaming | Layman Linux .::. Size~: 23.13 KBMay 11 00:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 3 Free/Libre Games for GNU/Linux, DRM-Free Free Downloads http://ur1.ca/0057h http://ur1.ca/0057iMay 11 00:37
TechrightsTitle: Saving a penny -- pirating the Humble Indie Bundle - Wolfire Games Blog .::. Size~: 22.72 KBMay 11 00:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Development Updates from #KDE SC Hackers http://ur1.ca/0057o http://ur1.ca/0057p http://ur1.ca/0057q http://ur1.ca/0057rMay 11 00:39
TechrightsTitle: KDEPIM on Mobile  Whats going on? « Steveires Blog .::. Size~: 23.05 KBMay 11 00:39
TechrightsTitle: SourceForge.net: Kraft helps small businesses manage their work .::. Size~: 23.12 KBMay 11 00:39
TechrightsTitle: Konsoles user interface changes « Sascha's Hideout .::. Size~: 34.68 KBMay 11 00:39
TechrightsTitle: Plasma Media Center Status report and introduction .::. Size~: 85.35 KBMay 11 00:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Desktop 3.0 in the South African News http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/12293-Sprucing-the-Linux-desktop.htmlMay 11 00:40
TechrightsTitle: Sprucing up the Linux desktop .::. Size~: 37.79 KBMay 11 00:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Review of CDlinux 0.9.6; Distro-Hopping Notes http://ur1.ca/005a4 http://ur1.ca/005a5May 11 00:54
TechrightsTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 83.1 KBMay 11 00:54
TechrightsTitle: Distro-hopping notes « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 55.42 KBMay 11 00:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2010.1 #KDE Edition is Out, Remastered PCLinuxOS Introduced http://ur1.ca/005a7 http://ur1.ca/005a8May 11 00:56
TechrightsTitle: PCLinuxOS 2010.1 KDE Edition addresses bugs - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.2 KBMay 11 00:56
TechrightsTitle: A Doctor`s Linux Blog: My successful PCLinuxOS 2010 Remaster .::. Size~: 145.6 KBMay 11 00:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Former #JBoss / #Red Hat Man Named an Entrepreneur-in-Residence http://ur1.ca/005ahMay 11 00:57
TechrightsTitle: Open source software exec Bearden named an Entrepreneur-in-Residence | The Red and Black .::. Size~: 36.6 KBMay 11 00:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Ubuntu 10.04 Reviews http://ur1.ca/005aq http://ur1.ca/005ar http://ur1.ca/005asMay 11 01:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #KDE Makes #Ubuntu Even Better; A Look Variant #PeppermintOS http://ur1.ca/005aw http://ur1.ca/005axMay 11 01:03
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) on My Optiplex GX260 | Cogito, ergo sum .::. Size~: 19.78 KBMay 11 01:03
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx Review « Splurgebook .::. Size~: 38.07 KBMay 11 01:03
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu 10.04: Ten Days In | WorksWithU .::. Size~: 42.69 KBMay 11 01:03
TechrightsTitle:   Ubuntu with a K | TechHaze.com .::. Size~: 140.22 KBMay 11 01:03
TechrightsTitle: Linux-Based Peppermint OS One Ships - Linux and Open Source from eWeek .::. Size~: 120.31 KBMay 11 01:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Quick Look at ( #Ubuntu ) Ultimate Edition 2.6; Easy Peasy 1.6 http://ur1.ca/005b9 http://ur1.ca/005baMay 11 01:04
TechrightsTitle: Ultimate Edition 2.6 Is Based on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - Comes with everything you can think of out-of-the-box - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.85 KBMay 11 01:04
TechrightsTitle: Easy Peasy 1.6 | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 38.39 KBMay 11 01:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Devices, Boards Run #Linux http://ur1.ca/005be http://ur1.ca/005bf http://ur1.ca/005bgMay 11 01:05
TechrightsTitle: QNAP Security's new Network Video Recorder models to take the forefront at IFSEC 2010 | Security News - SourceSecurity.com .::. Size~: 53.49 KBMay 11 01:05
TechrightsTitle: Broadband users urged to protect Wi-Fi connections - Broadband Finder .::. Size~: 19.88 KBMay 11 01:05
TechrightsTitle: Linux-ready, open-platform ARM9/DSP SBC costs $89 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.43 KBMay 11 01:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia Finds New Ways to Make Money Around #Linux and Software http://ur1.ca/005bjMay 11 01:06
TechrightsTitle: Nokia`s shift to services from hardware - Reuters -  .::. Size~: 80.2 KBMay 11 01:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android #Linux Getting Better for Phones, Runs Even on HypePhones http://ur1.ca/005bl http://ur1.ca/005bn http://ur1.ca/005boMay 11 01:07
TechrightsTitle:    Goggles turns Android into pocket translator - Google 24/7 - Fortune Tech .::. Size~: 55.23 KBMay 11 01:07
TechrightsTitle: Google: Android 2.1 is catching up - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.98 KBMay 11 01:07
TechrightsTitle: Android running on iPhone 3G | telecoms.com - telecoms industry news, analysis and opinion .::. Size~: 48.7 KBMay 11 01:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebook Runs Best With #GNU #Linux , #ARM Still on Route http://ur1.ca/005dd http://ur1.ca/005deMay 11 01:20
TechrightsTitle: Frankensteins Netbook « Limulus .::. Size~: 13.91 KBMay 11 01:20
TechrightsTitle: Where is the Linux 'smartbook'? | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News .::. Size~: 149.19 KBMay 11 01:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Could Teach Sprint a Lesson http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1533May 11 01:23
TechrightsTitle: TechRepublic Blogs: For IT professionals, by IT professionals .::. Size~: 79.43 KBMay 11 01:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Thunderbird 3.1 Now in Beta 2, #Mozilla 's Mitchell Baker Now in MSBBC http://ur1.ca/005e6 http://ur1.ca/005e7May 11 01:26
TechrightsTitle: Mozilla releases Thunderbird 3.1 Beta 2 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.52 KBMay 11 01:26
TechrightsTitle: BBC News - Mitchell Baker on handing control to Firefox users .::. Size~: 33.99 KBMay 11 01:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle and #OpenOffice .org in Debate About Proprietary Extensions http://ur1.ca/zolj http://ur1.ca/005ee http://ur1.ca/zvknMay 11 01:28
TechrightsTitle: Beware of Proprietary Drift - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) .::. Size~: 18.9 KBMay 11 01:28
TechrightsTitle: FSF launches site for free OpenOffice extensions - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.65 KBMay 11 01:28
TechrightsTitle: Moved by Freedom  Powered by Standards » Much ado about nothing .::. Size~: 44.8 KBMay 11 01:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Simon Phipps on Why Software #Freedom Matters http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2949&blogid=41May 11 01:37
TechrightsTitle: Software freedom matters, and I intend to prove it - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 74.66 KBMay 11 01:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #GNU Releases: Emacs, Smalltalk, glibc http://ur1.ca/005g0 http://ur1.ca/005g1 http://ur1.ca/005g3May 11 01:40
TechrightsTitle: Emacs 23.2 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.86 KBMay 11 01:40
TechrightsTitle: GNU Smalltalk 3.2 released .::. Size~: 10.75 KBMay 11 01:40
schestowitzsebsebseb: yeahMay 11 01:42
schestowitzSorry, was away from IRC May 11 01:42
schestowitz!ARM into energy-efficient server chip design? Cache-coherent and ECC I hope May 11 01:46
schestowitzhttp://ur1.ca/0052l /via @schestowitzMay 11 01:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/31753257May 11 01:46
TechrightsTitle: ARM dips toe into server chip design | Servers | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 36.7 KBMay 11 01:46
TechrightsTitle: Gerard Braad (吉拉德) (gbraad) 's status on Monday, 10-May-10 23:07:13 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.21 KBMay 11 01:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/31642283#notice-31753937 "v"May 11 01:47
TechrightsTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.85 KBMay 11 01:47
schestowitz"To be fair, I think it's about on par with FreeBSD. Depends on the distribution, and what you're using it for really."May 11 01:47
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ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/fc13.pngMay 11 02:04
TechrightsTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KBMay 11 02:04
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ender2070kdevelop 4, kde 4.4.2, chromium 5.xMay 11 02:05
ender2070f13 should be out soonMay 11 02:08
ender2070there is a meeting at some point to decide if the current rc will go goldMay 11 02:08
ender2070laterMay 11 02:09
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bruce89oopsMay 11 02:14
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WireWulfmmm lag is badMay 11 04:19
DaemonFCno, it's goodMay 11 04:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ BoneKnightmare Caught on tape: #Seattle #cops kick the wrong man in the head // is there a right man to kick in the head?May 11 04:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@BoneKnightmare Caught on tape: #Seattle #cops kick the wrong man in the head // is there a right man to kick in the head?May 11 04:41
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DaemonFCI don't know why companies are really pushing 1080P support for 32" TV setsMay 11 05:08
DaemonFCit's really overkill for that screen sizeMay 11 05:08
DaemonFC720P looks greatMay 11 05:08
DaemonFCprobably trying to get you to spend another $300 on the TV setMay 11 05:09
DaemonFCI don't think it's worth worrying about the difference until you get above 32"May 11 05:09
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neighborleeDaemonFC: prob. not at far distance viewing...close'ish up yesMay 11 05:23
neighborleeDaemonFC: like if  its used for a monitor or closeup viewing in livingroom etc. :)May 11 05:24
neighborleeno matter...3d will be defaut soon enough lolMay 11 05:24
DaemonFCnahMay 11 05:24
DaemonFCthose 3d tvs are a gimmickMay 11 05:24
neighborleecan't say I've never seen one May 11 05:25
neighborleesulu seems to think otherwise LOLMay 11 05:25
DaemonFCDirecTV will just be giving you glasses to wear and you can use your own TVMay 11 05:25
DaemonFCwithout buying a $3,000 oneMay 11 05:25
DaemonFCSulu is gayMay 11 05:25
DaemonFC(no, he is)May 11 05:25
DaemonFC:PMay 11 05:25
DaemonFCheheMay 11 05:25
neighborleeoh really  ? ;)May 11 05:25
neighborleeyou'd have to live under a rock not to know that ;)hehMay 11 05:25
DaemonFCyeah, it's creey how he says "Oh my!"May 11 05:26
DaemonFCreal creepyMay 11 05:26
neighborleeOVER acting at bestMay 11 05:26
neighborleestick to scifi for him :)May 11 05:26
DaemonFC"Our TV has separate yellow something or others"May 11 05:26
DaemonFCIs it also $5,000?May 11 05:27
DaemonFC:DMay 11 05:27
DaemonFCand sold with Monster Cables? :DMay 11 05:27
neighborleespecial yellow monster fish!May 11 05:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Canada detainee document impasse boils down to #Harper's craving for a #Bush-style government free to ignore any and all law. #cdnpoliMay 11 05:39
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DaemonFChttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/10/AR2010051004904.htmlMay 11 05:46
DaemonFCGattaca part 1May 11 05:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] who else misses #Catweazle? #tvMay 11 07:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Up and about for day two of #uds - ready to rock and roll! :-)May 11 07:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA and Drug #Patents Under Attack for Their Human-hostile Nature http://ur1.ca/zmik http://ur1.ca/006znMay 11 07:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How can we steam only audio from HTML5 video tag ? #html5 #ogg #video #firefoxMay 11 07:40
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schestowitzHeyMay 11 08:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya use <audio>May 11 08:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] It's not very well known that people who become Canonical employees don't automatically become members or get upload rights.May 11 08:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] If the secret #police ran the #jewish state: http://bit.ly/bXdaxx #israelMay 11 08:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] If the secret #police ran the #jewish state: http://bit.ly/bXdaxx #israel (h/t @eikonos)May 11 08:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @BoneKnightmare Columbia Mo #SWAT Raid. #Cops Shoot Pets, Children Present http://bit.ly/9Xkl1p // that won't "radicalise" anyone, no sirMay 11 08:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @glynmoody #Apple CENSORS Fashion Spreads http://bit.ly/dc263h "magazine forced to publish '#iran edition'" #censorship #apple #ipad #WOWMay 11 09:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nigeria has had enough of #Microsoft ’s “piracy” #propaganda and it is fighting back against it http://ur1.ca/007hw #africa #liesMay 11 09:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] @schestowitz actually video file is already uploaded by someone. I just want to stream audio from it.May 11 09:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Hoarders are caught out by a counter-intuitive fact: it's a lot easier to acquire #stuff than get rid of it (responsibly)May 11 09:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] I'm arguably a bit of a hoarder, you seeMay 11 09:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Tries to Purge Software Freedom in #America ( #Panama and #Argentina ) http://ur1.ca/007nd #propaganda #cronyismMay 11 09:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft wants to conquer the world and it tries to embed itself in federal elements of the system http://ur1.ca/007rxMay 11 10:11
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MinceRhttp://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l20aefkpmj1qb25dg.jpgMay 11 10:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Simplest C++ editor for Linux http://post.ly/fYlnMay 11 10:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] /6May 11 10:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Wow, If you use <audio/> tag and put scr="" as video file, then firefox only play audio and not video. #ogg #firefoxMay 11 11:13
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schestowitzMinceR: who collects the dead seafood from the bottom of the ocean :-)May 11 11:22
MinceRwhat makes you think it's collected? :>May 11 11:23
oiaohmVery large roachs collect some..May 11 11:23
oiaohmI do mean very large roachs ie about 1 foot in size.May 11 11:23
schestowitzDeep seas drift netsMay 11 11:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] In /7May 11 11:24
schestowitzThe dead fish would make good fuelMay 11 11:24
schestowitzIt's the oil that makes fish such a good source of energyMay 11 11:25
MinceRis that commercially viable?May 11 11:25
oiaohmDead fish don't normally natuarlly stack up.May 11 11:26
oiaohmThere is a lot of fuel in the sea floating junk piles we have made as well.May 11 11:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] In a session "Ubuntu One File Sync Clients for non-ubuntu platforms" :DMay 11 11:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Listen in to the session about non-ubuntu Ubuntu One clients http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/delfino.ogg.m3uMay 11 11:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] My favourite part of the whole election, for those not from UK this man is in charge of London, really it's the truth. http://is.gd/c40UAMay 11 11:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] More video taped sessions being uploaded to http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/ - processing as fast as we can.May 11 11:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] It seems the decisions about how #Ubuntu One file sync early on are making it hard to make a Windows version.May 11 11:54
MinceR(animated) http://i39.tinypic.com/mmzegy.gifMay 11 11:57
MinceRwhat is this i don't evenMay 11 11:57
cubezzzwe just need to go back to using glass as a container instead of plasticMay 11 11:58
cubezzzplastic shouldn't be used to contain food eitherMay 11 11:58
cubezzzglass and be sterilizedMay 11 11:58
cubezzzand=canMay 11 11:58
MinceRplastic could be recycled tooMay 11 11:59
cubezzzplus you can see the food you're gettingMay 11 11:59
MinceRbut i'd prefer something cleaner for use as a permanent drink containerMay 11 11:59
MinceRmy plastic bottles acquired a worse smell graduallyMay 11 12:00
MinceRi had to throw them outMay 11 12:00
cubezzzstainless steel -> Kleen KanteenMay 11 12:00
cubezzzI use them when hikingMay 11 12:01
cubezzzplastic is not easily recycableMay 11 12:01
cubezzzwe don't even have a local way to recycle _any_ plastic hereMay 11 12:01
cubezzznot even plastic #1May 11 12:01
cubezzzplastic is more chemically reactive than glass by farMay 11 12:02
MinceRi guess steel could work tooMay 11 12:02
MinceRbut i'm unsureMay 11 12:02
cubezzzwell you can clean stainless steel easilyMay 11 12:03
MinceRdoesn't it release something? i know i can smell metal most of the time...May 11 12:03
cubezzzReactive: copper, zinc, cast iron, brass, aluminum,May 11 12:04
cubezzzcarbon steelMay 11 12:04
cubezzznon-reactive: ceramic, glass, stoneware, food-grade plasticMay 11 12:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Guy in this session says 'I couldn't find midgard online', 5 mins later a dude walks in wearing a midgard t-shirt - found it!May 11 12:05
cubezzzyou could use glass, and cover the glass with a rubber linerMay 11 12:05
oiaohmstoneware is not always not reactive.May 11 12:06
cubezzzI guess some plastics are OK for food containmentMay 11 12:06
oiaohmThere are thousands fo plasticesMay 11 12:07
oiaohmSome are truely eatable by humans.May 11 12:07
cubezzzlike what?May 11 12:07
cubezzzI've studied plastic :)May 11 12:07
oiaohmSome of the starch based plastics.May 11 12:07
cubezzzthere's a reason we are going away from plastic thoughMay 11 12:08
oiaohmNote they are also plastics that biodegrade as well.May 11 12:08
cubezzzit's tough to recycle itMay 11 12:08
oiaohmIe don't last as long.May 11 12:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bill Gates and #Microsoft Guard Their Interest in Schoolchildren and Colleges http://ur1.ca/008st #phlanthrocapitalismMay 11 12:08
cubezzzyeah there's supposedly a bacteria that can eat plasticMay 11 12:08
oiaohmDepends on the kind of plastic.May 11 12:08
cubezzzoiaohm, yeah we use bio-degradble plastic bags for the green binMay 11 12:09
oiaohmOil based can be microwaved back into oil.May 11 12:09
cubezzzdid you know originally people used to bring their own containers to get their milk?May 11 12:09
cubezzznot sure if that was a good idea though :)May 11 12:10
cubezzzfast food places stopped using stryofoamMay 11 12:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Opinions: What #Microsoft Does to #Netbooks and #Smartbooks http://techrights.org/2010/05/11/netbooks-and-smartbooks/May 11 12:11
MinceRschestowitz: according to mono.wikia.com, the unity that uses mono is a game engineMay 11 12:13
cubezzzre recycle most of our stuff nowMay 11 12:13
cubezzzre=weMay 11 12:13
oiaohmThere is a potato based material that can be used instead of stryofoamMay 11 12:13
oiaohmAlmost 100 percent the same material properitiesMay 11 12:14
oiaohmOther than the fact the potato based product will break down.May 11 12:14
oiaohmAnd the potato based product does not taste that bad to eat.May 11 12:15
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TechrightsHello World!May 11 12:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Symantec exploits journalists’ ignorance, but there is at least one news site (PC World) that claims Symantec is lying http://ur1.ca/008vqMay 11 12:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Richard Stallman recommends reduced exposure to Hollywood's so-called 'premium content', which increasingly excludes FS http://ur1.ca/00913May 11 12:44
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cubezzzok, re: Hollywood...May 11 12:58
cubezzzthe DRM is defeatableMay 11 12:58
cubezzzeven on blu-rayMay 11 12:58
cubezzzI download tennis videos, which I pay forMay 11 12:59
cubezzzthey have 1 year time limit, rather annoyingMay 11 12:59
cubezzzit is wmv... which I usually avoid but tennis videos have them and I want to see tennisMay 11 12:59
cubezzzget the KID, then the drm is removableMay 11 13:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Against Net Neutrality http://ur1.ca/00947 Another new sign that Microsoft is a threat to the InternetMay 11 13:00
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cubezzzbad hardware on the other hand, needs to be avoided like the plagueMay 11 13:01
cubezzztivos and similar thingsMay 11 13:02
cubezzzhttp://freedomincluded.com/doc/tip/www/index.wikiMay 11 13:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Cost to redevelop Fedora 9 is 50,000 Crore INR. Govt may decide to use FOSS or waste Indian Rupees to redevelop a new OS. #india #vaporwareMay 11 13:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New Article - Digital Right Management and/or Technical Protection Measures Cause Climate Change http://bit.ly/94pRZSMay 11 13:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Why FOSS is important for Indian Govt and Education System http://post.ly/fZiOMay 11 13:37
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cubezzz-laptopchecking out the open source driver for atiMay 11 13:42
cubezzz-laptopshould be interesting, I haven't looked at driver code in a whileMay 11 13:42
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cubezzz-laptopso I actually am pretty close to having a FOSS computerMay 11 13:45
cubezzz-laptopthe last barrier is the biosMay 11 13:45
amarsh04cubezzz-laptop, #radeon is pretty helpful on the free driverMay 11 13:50
cubezzz-laptopah thanksMay 11 13:52
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cubezzzamarsh04, just out of curiousity which video card are you using?May 11 14:20
amarsh04on my old pc, radeon 9200se (RV280) and on my new pc radeon 3200hd (RV780) May 11 14:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The EU remains a collection of sovereign states, the EU patent is a test for the real desire of an internal market http://ur1.ca/009jgMay 11 14:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mrpower RT @bbctech 43% of software is pirated, costing software firms more than $50bn. << Bullshit //worse, some ppl still use #microsoftMay 11 14:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Relation between patents and standards, and what are the implications of not allowing standards to be protected by IPRs http://ur1.ca/007l0May 11 14:36
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cubezzzit says here that "ATI produced integrated graphics cards for PC manufacturers such as IBM and Commodore"May 11 14:37
cubezzzI guess they mean Commodore PC compatiblesMay 11 14:37
cubezzzI think I even remember ATI's first graphics card :)May 11 14:41
cubezzzit was a combo Hercules/CGA cardMay 11 14:41
cubezzzI always liked ATI cards thoughMay 11 14:45
MinceRmy first encounter with ati cards was the readme files of a dozen dos programs saying there are known issues with the ati mach64 :>May 11 14:45
MinceRapparently things didn't get much better since then :>May 11 14:46
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cubezzzwhat was the problem(s)?May 11 14:46
cubezzzactually I did have some trouble with ATI all-in-wonder cards, mostly with the softwareMay 11 14:47
MinceRi don't rememberMay 11 14:47
MinceRit was ages ago and it didn't apply to meMay 11 14:47
MinceR(i think i had trident cards back then)May 11 14:47
cubezzzprogramming dos games must have been a bit of a painMay 11 14:49
MinceRno, not a bitMay 11 14:49
MinceRa lot ;)May 11 14:49
cubezzzhehMay 11 14:49
MinceRand many have failed hardMay 11 14:49
cubezzzat least on Amiga you _knew_ what chips you had to work withMay 11 14:49
MinceRthe amiga wasn't flexible and it couldn't be upgraded much, afaikMay 11 14:50
MinceRand you didn't have a choice of components :>May 11 14:50
cubezzzyou know that we can use PCI cards on Amigas now?May 11 14:51
cubezzzeven buy tower cases for Amiga 1200'sMay 11 14:51
MinceR_now_May 11 14:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Orissa police is in the steps of attacking peaceful anti posco villeges. 25 platoons of police is camping @ kujam police station. Act nowMay 11 14:51
MinceRand consequently now you don't know what chips you have to work with :>May 11 14:51
cubezzzeven on my Amiga 500 I had SCSI hard drive, expanded memory, batteryMay 11 14:51
cubezzzmostly the expansion was external thoughMay 11 14:52
cubezzzdifferent situation now thoughMay 11 14:53
cubezzzmostly I am programming my own stuff, so I _do_ know what chips I have to work withMay 11 14:53
cubezzzso for programmer, it's still good, just don't buy undocumented hardwareMay 11 14:54
cubezzzI guess I don't really need to buy an amiga to have a FOSS computer May 11 14:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Despite #Security Lies and Security Failures, #Microsoft Instructs Worldwide Cybersecurity Summit http://ur1.ca/009qnMay 11 14:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Orissa Govt is in the process of attacking peaceful anti posco villages. 25 platoons of police is camping @ Kujang police stationMay 11 15:11
cubezzzwell it's people's own fault if they are too lazy to look at alternative OSesMay 11 15:12
amarsh04don't computer science departments teach comparitive operating systems any more?May 11 15:14
cubezzzwaterloo doesMay 11 15:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] "No Power for the Parliament" warns EPO examiners association, EU Patent System left in the hands of patent dictats http://ur1.ca/009u0May 11 15:15
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cubezzzthey used a lot of Sun equipment, not sure if they still doMay 11 15:16
cubezzzhttp://freiheit.syntheticdimension.net/os_comparison.phpMay 11 15:16
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cubezzzHaiku live cd worked pretty well btwMay 11 15:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Slashdot submission: EU-India treaty leaks with 3strikes provisions, please vote for it if you have a login: http://ur1.ca/009uiMay 11 15:17
cubezzzbetter than AROSMay 11 15:17
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cubezzzbasically I have to keep computers working as part of my jobMay 11 15:21
cubezzzfor maintainance, win95 was very very badMay 11 15:21
cubezzzbut no windows was very good, windows 2000 was the "least bad"May 11 15:22
cubezzzLinux is the swiss army knife of operating systemsMay 11 15:22
cubezzzI still can't believe how slow XP was with 512 megs of ramMay 11 15:23
cubezzzso to me, windows is not even in the running for considerationMay 11 15:23
cubezzzok, so what else?May 11 15:24
cubezzzAmigaOS... no....May 11 15:25
cubezzzonly for the specialistMay 11 15:25
cubezzzreally there's Linux, AROS and Haiku if you want open sourceMay 11 15:26
cubezzzAROS is interesting, you can port amiga programs to it easilyMay 11 15:27
cubezzzok, Linux, AROS, BSD and HaikuMay 11 15:28
cubezzzwin95 is the clunk of the clunksMay 11 15:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s Biggest Cash Cow Meets Vegan Society http://ur1.ca/009wy Why Microsoft Office is having an ongoing crisisMay 11 15:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Slashdot submission: EU-India treaty leaks with 3strikes provisions, please vote for it if you have a login: http://ur1.ca/009uiMay 11 15:32
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cubezzzbtw waterloo uses OS/161May 11 15:33
cubezzzhttp://www.eecs.harvard.edu/%7Esyrah/os161/May 11 15:33
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cubezzzfor teaching purposesMay 11 15:33
schestowitzWhy not Linux?May 11 15:33
schestowitzcubezzz: better to give skills that can lead them to careersMay 11 15:34
MinceRstuck in the past, i presumeMay 11 15:35
schestowitzIt's easierMay 11 15:35
schestowitzFor the teacherMay 11 15:35
schestowitzNot to rewrite course material/lab exercisesMay 11 15:35
cubezzzwell the course is on operating systems, not a specific operating systemMay 11 15:35
MinceRyes, teachers like to slack off their work and provide subpar educationMay 11 15:35
cubezzzI assume they try to be abstractMay 11 15:36
MinceRos/161 is not abstract, it's specificMay 11 15:36
cubezzzI think in 4th year you even write an OSMay 11 15:36
cubezzzhmmmMay 11 15:37
cubezzzI have an old operating systems book from the 80's :)May 11 15:40
cubezzzlet's see....May 11 15:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Slashdot submission: "No Power for the Parliament" warns EPO examiners association, vote for it: http://ur1.ca/009zjMay 11 15:44
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cubezzzthis operating systems book predates windows :)May 11 15:44
cubezzz1981May 11 15:45
cubezzztype of operating systems:May 11 15:45
cubezzzreal-time, batch, single-stream, multiprogramming, and time sharingMay 11 15:45
cubezzzit's so old, C language isn't even listed as a languageMay 11 15:47
MinceRC was quite existing in 1981May 11 15:48
MinceR7May 11 15:48
MinceRdisregard that number :>May 11 15:48
cubezzzok :)May 11 15:48
cubezzzthey talk about APL on the IBM 5100May 11 15:50
cubezzz they also talked about OEMs in the old daysMay 11 15:53
cubezzzthere are "personal problem solvers" and "professional programmers" ;-)May 11 15:56
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cubezzzthis is quite an abstract book, not a single line of code May 11 15:58
cubezzzMinceR, you could be quite right, they may be stuck in the pastMay 11 15:58
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cubezzzI think a lot of people learned Java in their first yearMay 11 16:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just had a massively productive session at #uds offloading about Ubuntu One with the developers.They took notes.Very satisfying!May 11 16:01
cubezzzprobably better to learn assembly first, then C then C++May 11 16:02
cubezzznot sure if any place teaches things that wayMay 11 16:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I would prefer it if @bromptonbicycle didn't spam me with mail given my brompton was stolen a year ago, AND THEY KNOW THIS!May 11 16:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Sat in Martin's Ground Control planning talk at UDS. He is demoing it, it absolutely rocks. :-) #uds #ubuntuMay 11 16:05
cubezzzthe idea of using APL sure didn't stickMay 11 16:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wearing this Tshirt http://bit.ly/cCp1Oo at the #Ubuntu developer summit. Surprising how many Canonical people asked where I got it! :) #fbMay 11 16:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Presentations of the CEIPI conference on a EU central patent court: http://ur1.ca/00aebMay 11 16:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] http://fossjobs.in now contains Facebook "Like/Unlike" PageMay 11 16:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Well it seems more or less over until the next election, business as usual in the British undemocracy.May 11 17:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] #lol - ask not what your country can code for you - ask what you can code for your country http://codeforamerica.org Anyone for #india ?May 11 17:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Scrapping FPTP will not cause a happy rainbow unicorn political wonderland. It will, however, give the system the periodic shake it needs.May 11 17:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @dougclow Ten tips for coping with lots of rough nights: http://bit.ly/9JqWMV <-- should be printed & handed to all new parentsMay 11 18:13
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zoobabSeems the Microtrolls do not like my submissionMay 11 18:17
zoobabhttp://slashdot.org/firehose.plMay 11 18:17
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zoobabthe EPO letter was hot some minutes ago, some Microtrolls were probably voting againstMay 11 18:18
zoobabhttp://slashdot.org/submission/1234894/No-Power-for-the-Parliament-warns-EPO-examinersMay 11 18:18
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Packaged cricscore applet for Fedora: http://arunsag.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/cricketscore-applet-available-in-fedora/May 11 18:22
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schestowitzzoobab: I think the trolls would latch onto other stuffMay 11 18:29
zoobabI am gonna leak another document tomorrowMay 11 18:29
zoobabhttp://www.ceipi.edu/fr/travaux/Renc.htmlMay 11 18:30
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Ziomatrixwatch out: http://tinyurl.com/yst997May 11 18:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Seven-Washing : Along the lines of “greenwashing”, #Microsoft resorts to rebranding products with the number “7″ http://ur1.ca/00b71May 11 18:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Reality Log passed 10k pageviews about an hour ago. http://ur1.ca/00b7e Bad PR? Wash it with a "7"May 11 18:44
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Omar87Hi allMay 11 18:44
schestowitzo/May 11 18:44
schestowitzZiomatrix: "This video contains content from Fremantle International, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds. "May 11 18:45
schestowitzzoobab: great!May 11 18:45
DaemonFCThey'll rape us to death, then eat our flesh, then sew our skins into their clothes, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order...May 11 18:45
DaemonFC:DMay 11 18:45
schestowitzWHo?May 11 18:46
schestowitzYellowMan{Tm}?May 11 18:46
DaemonFCThe Reavers of courseMay 11 18:46
DaemonFC:)May 11 18:46
schestowitzAhh..May 11 18:46
schestowitz[18:45] <DaemonFC> They'll rape us to death, then eat our flesh, then sew our skins into their clothes, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order...May 11 18:46
schestowitzSounded like a bad hair dayMay 11 18:46
schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/107324/confirmed-mandriva-acquisition-talksMay 11 18:47
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schestowitzhttp://trueslant.com/juliaioffe/2010/05/04/nuke-that-slick/May 11 18:47
TechrightsTitle:   Nuke that slick - Julia Ioffe - The Moscow Diaries - True/Slant .::. Size~: 136.17 KBMay 11 18:47
Omar87schestowitz, acquisition? By whom?May 11 18:48
schestowitzOmar87: read onMay 11 18:48
DaemonFCOmar87, I'm taking it over for five American dollarsMay 11 18:49
DaemonFC:DMay 11 18:49
schestowitzheh. http://www.jfplayhouse.com/2010/05/why-google-needs-to-pull-plug-on-chrome.htmlMay 11 18:49
TechrightsTitle: jerkface playhouse: Why Google needs to pull the plug on Chrome OS .::. Size~: 119.83 KBMay 11 18:49
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schestowitzWell, it's a dumbed down UbuntuMay 11 18:49
schestowitzChrome OS = Google-branded distroMay 11 18:49
DaemonFCChrome OS is pretty much a single purpose thingMay 11 18:50
DaemonFCit browses the web with Chrome and runs Google web apps with ChromeMay 11 18:50
DaemonFC:PMay 11 18:50
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schestowitzProprietary softwareMay 11 18:50
schestowitzSupport Mandriva, not GoogleMay 11 18:51
schestowitzThey have enough cake alreadyMay 11 18:51
DaemonFCwell, the web browser has become an operating system within an operating systemMay 11 18:51
DaemonFCor if it hasn't, it's damned closeMay 11 18:51
DaemonFCit's exactly what Microsoft tried to avoid by forcing IE on everyoneMay 11 18:52
DaemonFCsame functionality, only hidden behind an extrapolation layer and only useful on WindowsMay 11 18:52
DaemonFCcross platform support is bad for them because it makes Windows less uniquely usefulMay 11 18:53
DaemonFCtherefore, I kind of fail to see how anything that supports open standards is bad, even if the software itself is proprietaryMay 11 18:54
Omar87schestowitz, what's wrong with Jan Wildeboer? :)May 11 18:54
DaemonFCschestowitz: Why do you care how Opera itself works when it can render the same pages the same way that Firefox would, or ChromeMay 11 18:55
DaemonFC:PMay 11 18:55
schestowitzOmar87: you tell me.May 11 18:55
DaemonFCproprietary software is only bad insofar as they are using that status to get away with doing bad thingsMay 11 18:55
Omar87I sent him an invitation to join us in Jordan next month, but I have this intense feeling that he won't ever respond. :PMay 11 18:55
schestowitzDepends on his bossMay 11 18:56
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schestowitzArgh... Slashdot is kissing Billg's patents arse againMay 11 18:57
schestowitzThey promote his patent businessMay 11 18:57
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schestowitz /. fail:http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/05/10/195251/Android-Sales-Surpass-iPhone-SalesMay 11 18:59
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schestowitzIt doesn't say US-onlyMay 11 18:59
schestowitzUS=world??May 11 18:59
schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/mobile-amp-wireless/107160/hps-slate-be-replaced-webos-tabletMay 11 19:00
TechrightsTitle: HP's Slate to be replaced by WebOS tablet? | ITworld .::. Size~: 80.88 KBMay 11 19:00
schestowitzMore Linux tablets comingMay 11 19:01
MinceRbut will they spy on their users?May 11 19:01
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5353Z320090406May 11 19:02
TechrightsTitle: U.S. defense plan kills programs, trims missile shield| Reuters .::. Size~: 50.28 KBMay 11 19:02
schestowitzYour days of imperialism are endingMay 11 19:02
MinceRhardlyMay 11 19:02
MinceRthe megacorps are taking the mantleMay 11 19:02
schestowitzMinceR: HP? Spying? :-)May 11 19:02
MinceRschestowitz: palm did itMay 11 19:02
MinceRwith webosMay 11 19:02
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=florina+hp+spying&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8May 11 19:02
TechrightsTitle: florina hp spying - Google Search .::. Size~: 39.98 KBMay 11 19:02
schestowitzMinceR: I knowMay 11 19:02
MinceRdid you mean "fiorina"?May 11 19:02
schestowitzPerfect couplingMay 11 19:03
schestowitzMinceR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_spying_scandalMay 11 19:03
TechrightsTitle: HP spying scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 39.15 KBMay 11 19:03
schestowitzThey spied on journalists and their familiesMay 11 19:03
schestowitzHoundsMay 11 19:03
MinceRicMay 11 19:03
MinceRso that's why they wanted palmMay 11 19:03
schestowitzNo, not anymoreMay 11 19:03
schestowitzNow they have HURDMay 11 19:03
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schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_HurdMay 11 19:04
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MinceRlolMay 11 19:04
schestowitz"On September 22, 2006, Hurd succeeded Patricia C. Dunn as chairman after she resigned as a result of the pretexting controversy.[5]"May 11 19:04
schestowitzThat crook is still aroundMay 11 19:04
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MinceRthat doesn't mean that HP's spying days are over, thoughMay 11 19:05
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hcoyG-Ck3-VwZB7fqpUFXbffoObgMay 11 19:05
TechrightsTitle: AFP: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era .::. Size~: 9.98 KBMay 11 19:05
schestowitzBama thinks Apple and Microsoft are all there is in techMay 11 19:05
schestowitzHe always says "Xbox", not "wii"May 11 19:05
schestowitzIt makes his seem like AverageJoeMay 11 19:06
cubezzzwhitehouse uses drupal :)May 11 19:06
MinceRwell, crApple and m$ are paying/controlling him, Nintendo isn'tMay 11 19:06
cubezzzjust thought I'd remind everyoneMay 11 19:06
schestowitzcubezzz: but it's not ObamaMay 11 19:06
schestowitzMinceR: I can see thatMay 11 19:06
schestowitzA joint here and there, some Coke, then xboxMay 11 19:06
MinceRs/C/c/May 11 19:06
MinceR;)May 11 19:06
schestowitzBut Bush also smoked drugsMay 11 19:06
schestowitzIIRC, Obama did harder drugsMay 11 19:07
MinceRthere's a song about thatMay 11 19:07
cubezzzreally?May 11 19:07
amarsh04see also http://knowledge.wpcarey.asu.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1315May 11 19:07
TechrightsTitle: Home - Knowledge@W.P. Carey .::. Size~: 24.28 KBMay 11 19:07
amarsh04Marianne Jennings and the ethics of HPMay 11 19:07
schestowitzamarsh04: maybe Microsoft should hire FlorinaMay 11 19:07
schestowitzMinceR: can you find it?May 11 19:08
cubezzzMicrosoft can't really winMay 11 19:08
MinceRi'm trying toMay 11 19:08
cubezzzwe're in a transitional phase againMay 11 19:08
MinceRcubezzz: but they can cause a lot of damage and steal a lot of money stillMay 11 19:08
schestowitzhttp://www.cypherspace.org/coalition/May 11 19:08
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amarsh04maybe Mark Hurd should change his behaviour to be more like GNU Hurd (-:May 11 19:08
schestowitzNoMay 11 19:09
schestowitzMessage passing is not goodMay 11 19:09
cubezzzFOSS is replacing the old shrinkwrap method of softwre distributionMay 11 19:09
schestowitzIt's what got Florina bustedMay 11 19:09
cubezzzno one can stop itMay 11 19:09
amarsh04true, schestowitzMay 11 19:09
cubezzzyou think India and China want to pay microsoft money? May 11 19:09
MinceRschestowitz: (flash) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs01Ce2qtpkMay 11 19:09
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cubezzzof course not :)May 11 19:10
cubezzzthere will be pay for FOSS mods tooMay 11 19:10
schestowitzMinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx9yypsIW_QMay 11 19:10
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Tha Dogg Pound - Let's Play House 1995 .::. Size~: 101.88 KBMay 11 19:10
schestowitzOne of my favsMay 11 19:10
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amarsh04I recommend the linked article, even though I disagree with Ms Jennings on lots of things including her husband working for Sherriff JoeMay 11 19:10
schestowitzhttp://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3441/carbon-rich-comet-fragments-found-antarctic-snowMay 11 19:12
TechrightsTitle: Carbon-rich comet fragments found in Antarctic snow  | COSMOS magazine .::. Size~: 15.07 KBMay 11 19:12
cubezzzsometimes I have to pinch myself, I get paid for installing Fedora on other people's computersMay 11 19:12
cubezzzyou got to believe that is a major changeMay 11 19:12
amarsh04hehehe cubezzzMay 11 19:12
MinceRi used to get paid for developing code that runs on GNU/LinuxMay 11 19:12
MinceR(though what i'm coding for work now will also run on GNU/Linux)May 11 19:12
MinceR(will be able to, that is)May 11 19:13
cubezzzthis guy wanted a chess computer handheldMay 11 19:13
cubezzzso I put phalanx on a zaurus, and he's quite happyMay 11 19:13
DaemonFCyeah, Obama was shamed into killing off the Presidential helicopter programMay 11 19:14
DaemonFCafter the total cost was made into an election year issueMay 11 19:14
schestowitzMinceR: that video has no ObamaMay 11 19:15
schestowitzJust BushMay 11 19:15
MinceRindeedMay 11 19:15
cubezzzObama didn't turn out as good as I hoped he wouldMay 11 19:15
schestowitzUS presidents do drugs.... smoking cigars... Clinton too... had his cigar suckedMay 11 19:15
DaemonFCcubezzz, He's not Bush at leastMay 11 19:15
MinceRthere's a pointMay 11 19:15
schestowitz /cigar/cigarette/May 11 19:15
cubezzzyeah, anyone's better than Bush, but still...May 11 19:15
MinceRnot anyoneMay 11 19:16
MinceRimagine ballmer in his placeMay 11 19:16
schestowitzJobs for president 2012May 11 19:16
cubezzzugh!May 11 19:16
*cubezzz is imagining itMay 11 19:16
schestowitzPresenting junk toysMay 11 19:16
schestowitzBillG might try one dayMay 11 19:16
schestowitzHe buys public support at the momentMay 11 19:16
DaemonFCWe need a genetic hybrid created from Steve Ballmer, George W. Bush, and Sarah PalinMay 11 19:17
schestowitzA lot of the public is gullible enoughMay 11 19:17
DaemonFCthen you have business sense, experience, and that campy down home goodnessMay 11 19:17
schestowitzUS of [a]dvertisingMay 11 19:17
DaemonFCjust think of it :DMay 11 19:17
amarsh04maybe they should use the employment conditions for the prime minister of Ruritania from Parkinson's Law for the .us president?May 11 19:17
schestowitzDaemonFC is a fan og SteveBMay 11 19:17
schestowitzUses his image as avatarMay 11 19:17
DaemonFCapple pie, just like Ballmer used to makeMay 11 19:18
DaemonFC:PMay 11 19:18
schestowitzDaemonFC: you're joking, I hopeMay 11 19:18
cubezzzpeople are curious when they come over and see all this "new" stuff like Linux, AROS, and HaikuMay 11 19:18
schestowitzYou're a closet RepublicanMay 11 19:18
cubezzzit gets them asking a lot of questionsMay 11 19:18
MinceRi wonder how much time would it take for SweatyB to get the planet into an all-out nuclear warMay 11 19:18
MinceRfrom being elected presidentMay 11 19:18
schestowitzNo need for warsMay 11 19:19
schestowitzHe'll just take leader to the backMay 11 19:19
schestowitzThen say, "pay up or be nuked"May 11 19:19
schestowitzLeader says, "why?"May 11 19:19
schestowitzBallmer replies, "I can't tell you"May 11 19:19
cubezzzthat's M.A.D.May 11 19:19
schestowitzBut we have 234 nuclear warheads, somewhereMay 11 19:19
cubezzzno, no nuclear weapons...May 11 19:20
cubezzzyou need to watch "War Games" again :)May 11 19:20
schestowitzThey'll call him Evil IvanBMay 11 19:20
schestowitzBillG is behind the racket tooMay 11 19:20
DaemonFCmy movie should be hereMay 11 19:20
DaemonFCbrbMay 11 19:20
schestowitzHe went to Sun to extort themMay 11 19:20
*DaemonFC goes to check the mailMay 11 19:21
schestowitzhttp://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/30/1091080437270.htmlMay 11 19:21
TechrightsTitle: Software's game of mutually assured damage - Ross Gittins - www.smh.com.au .::. Size~: 31.28 KBMay 11 19:21
MinceRschestowitz: SweatyB doesn't seem to be the subtle typeMay 11 19:21
schestowitzhttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176426/House_panel_to_hold_stock_market_inquiryMay 11 19:22
TechrightsTitle: House panel to hold stock market inquiry - Computerworld .::. Size~: 79.88 KBMay 11 19:22
schestowitzIt runs Red HatMay 11 19:22
schestowitzMinceR: I don't mind himMay 11 19:22
schestowitzHis party is useless.... spinelessMay 11 19:22
schestowitzBiden the neo-fascistMay 11 19:23
schestowitzFighting his 'own' peopleMay 11 19:23
schestowitzis he a lawyer?May 11 19:23
schestowitzLet's checkMay 11 19:23
MinceRschestowitz: leaders of other countries might be less tolerant of having a chair thrown at them or hearing of a rant about "fucking killing" themMay 11 19:23
cubezzzquite so :)May 11 19:24
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BidenMay 11 19:24
schestowitz"During his first year there, he was accused of having plagiarized 5 of 15 pages of a law review article. "May 11 19:24
TechrightsTitle: Joe Biden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 566.28 KBMay 11 19:24
cubezzzBiden's a bit of a tosserMay 11 19:25
DaemonFCI don't know why I like Ballmer, maybe it's because he's so good at being a total bastard that I can almost respect himMay 11 19:25
DaemonFC:)May 11 19:25
cubezzzit politics the bad guys usually winMay 11 19:25
cubezzzit=inMay 11 19:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: cause you like evilMay 11 19:25
schestowitzSome people get fascinated by murderersMay 11 19:26
DaemonFCschestowitz: I respect the evil he sweats outMay 11 19:26
schestowitzEwwwMay 11 19:26
DaemonFCIf one could bottle Ballmer sweat and drink it......May 11 19:26
DaemonFCthey could be almost as evilMay 11 19:26
schestowitzhttp://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/moving-acta-to-wipo/May 11 19:26
TechrightsTitle: Moving ACTA to WIPO « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 16.53 KBMay 11 19:26
DaemonFCI wonder how much SweatyB's bottled essence costs :PMay 11 19:27
cubezzzthat is truly grossMay 11 19:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: the Ballmer fan clue is over there ---------->May 11 19:27
schestowitz*clubMay 11 19:27
cubezzz"I GOT 4 WORDS FOR YOU"May 11 19:27
schestowitzcubezzz: uhttp://www.itworldcanada.com/news/canada-3-0-speaker-suggests-re-branding-canada/140621May 11 19:28
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DaemonFCI LOVE THIS COMPANY!!!!May 11 19:28
DaemonFC:DMay 11 19:28
cubezzz"I... LOVE.... THIS.... COMPANY.... Yeaahhahhhhhhhhhh"May 11 19:28
cubezzzlolMay 11 19:28
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MinceRsadly, many people believe today that Evil is the same as CoolMay 11 19:28
schestowitzI knowMay 11 19:28
DaemonFCcubezzz, I liked the fake Ballmer Zune commercialMay 11 19:28
schestowitzThat's what worries meMay 11 19:28
MinceRthat's part of the rottenness of our societyMay 11 19:28
DaemonFCthat was truly awesomeMay 11 19:28
schestowitzThere are still some Stalin and Hitler nostalgists out thereMay 11 19:29
schestowitzBuying memorabilia from times when bombs fell from the sky in EuropeMay 11 19:29
schestowitzLook a hop hop and metal cultureMay 11 19:29
schestowitzThe more evil, the betterMay 11 19:29
cubezzzhip hop :)May 11 19:29
schestowitzHard metal not enough?May 11 19:29
cubezzzlolMay 11 19:29
schestowitzStart death metalMay 11 19:29
schestowitzCause death is absolutelyMay 11 19:29
schestowitz*absoluteMay 11 19:30
*DaemonFC hands cubezzz some bottled SweatyB essence straight from the armpitsMay 11 19:30
cubezzzI don't know anyone who buys "Death Metal"May 11 19:30
schestowitzThen the member blows up their heads with a shotgun and wear skull pieces on necklacesMay 11 19:30
cubezzzfortunatelyMay 11 19:30
DaemonFCcubezzz, That'll make your hair fall out and you'll gain 100 pounds, but you'll be a billionaireMay 11 19:30
MinceRand there are people who don't care if they lose all their freedom and perhaps get killed, as long as there's a particular symbol on their oppressor's red flag and not anotherMay 11 19:30
schestowitzNow, *That's* a seller to gothsMay 11 19:30
MinceR(yellow hammer and sickle vs. black swastika on white circle)May 11 19:30
cubezzzSweatyB will be lucky if he doesn't have a massive heart attackMay 11 19:31
schestowitzcubezzz: try ScandinaviaMay 11 19:31
schestowitz[19:30] <MinceR> and there are people who don't care if they lose all their freedom and perhaps get killed, as long as there's a particular symbol on their oppressor's red flag and not anotherMay 11 19:31
DaemonFCcubezzz, With $12 billion, you could probably get them to make you a cyborg bodyMay 11 19:31
schestowitzMinceR: like the 9/11 terroristsMay 11 19:31
schestowitzThey thought they did goodMay 11 19:31
cubezzzpeople question things now thoughMay 11 19:31
MinceRi meant regular sheeple, not terrorists, though :>May 11 19:31
cubezzzthey don't really "go with the flow" (as much)May 11 19:31
cubezzzthey know fast food is bad for themMay 11 19:32
schestowitzThe US spent moneyMay 11 19:32
DaemonFCMaybe the Ballmer you see is one of his cyborg bodies, the one he had made to look like his human body which is already deadMay 11 19:32
cubezzzthey know cable tv is crapMay 11 19:32
schestowitzTrying to harass cuitizensMay 11 19:32
DaemonFCso he can keep running MicrosoftMay 11 19:32
schestowitzStudying preventionMay 11 19:32
schestowitzInstead of studying extrimismMay 11 19:32
DaemonFCit's not sweat, it's synthisweatMay 11 19:32
schestowitzAnd realising how to end the sick phenomenaMay 11 19:32
DaemonFC:PMay 11 19:32
DaemonFCin his other cyborg body, Ballmer is really a male modelMay 11 19:33
DaemonFCthat's my theory anywayMay 11 19:33
DaemonFCthen he switches to his third cyborg body and he's President ObamaMay 11 19:33
MinceRsweatyb.md3?May 11 19:33
DaemonFChmmm, there's a commercial on for one of those old people scooter things where the guy is walking his dog, and he hits the throttle and yanks the dog a few inches forward before the thing can get traction and start walkingMay 11 19:35
amarsh04http://3.ly/8Bz5May 11 19:35
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DaemonFCI captioned that "Come on Sparky or I'll crank it!"May 11 19:35
DaemonFC:DMay 11 19:35
DaemonFCtoo funnyMay 11 19:35
DaemonFC"And Medicare bought this fucking thing for me out of your tax money"May 11 19:37
DaemonFC"All $5,000 worth, it IS a medical device after all"May 11 19:37
DaemonFCmaybe that's my problem, I need to figure out how to classify a newer car as a medical deviceMay 11 19:38
schestowitzhttp://www.pwnage.ca/?p=22May 11 19:39
TechrightsTitle: Pwnage.ca » Stop watching Television .::. Size~: 14.41 KBMay 11 19:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: Have you ever considered that any input, regardless of its valuation by society, might increase your overall sphere of understandingMay 11 19:40
DaemonFCand that perhaps many things are deemed to be without value or merit because that articular group of people doesn't want you to have a frame of reference to draw your own opinions fromMay 11 19:41
DaemonFC:)May 11 19:41
DaemonFCif you live in a society where book burnings don't go over well, they next best thing is to shame people who are interested in that category of thingsMay 11 19:42
DaemonFC*theMay 11 19:42
DaemonFCender is the one behind that stupid blog, right?May 11 19:43
DaemonFClazy/selfish="Don't want to bust your balls to meet the expectations and do the work of other people that doesn't benefit yourself in the slightest"May 11 19:44
DaemonFCtherefore it is entirely appropriate to be lazy and selfish wherever you can get away with it and whenever the benefit is not limited to yourself or at least mutualMay 11 19:45
DaemonFCam I right? :)May 11 19:45
DaemonFCmost employment happens to fall in the lopsided category that makes a person not wanting to perform the tasks for the benefit indicated a "lazy/selfish" personMay 11 19:47
DaemonFCtherefore I also define this lazy/selfish as "adverse reaction to the prospect of being victimized for the total or preponderance of gains of another"May 11 19:48
DaemonFCHow am I doing now? :)May 11 19:48
schestowitzhttp://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/05/i-am-going-to-blow-up-robin-hood-airport.htmlMay 11 19:48
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Stories of piracy appeal to us because deep down, we'd all like to be a pirateMay 11 19:49
DaemonFCnobody likes to admit itMay 11 19:49
MinceR"You are a pirate!"May 11 19:49
MinceR(flash) (video) (audio) http://openvideo.dailymotion.com/video/x3z2vz_lazy-town-you-are-a-pirate_shortfilmsMay 11 19:50
TechrightsTitle: Dailymotion - LAZY TOWN - you are a pirate - a Film & TV video .::. Size~: 54.07 KBMay 11 19:50
DaemonFCMinceR, The idea of a democracy actually has roots in piracyMay 11 19:51
DaemonFCtheir system of governmentMay 11 19:51
DaemonFCand the Captain of the ship only had authority in battle, usuallyMay 11 19:51
DaemonFCand could be voted out by the crewMay 11 19:51
MinceRinterestingMay 11 19:52
MinceRis there an essay on that?May 11 19:52
DaemonFCquartermasters had authority over the ship when not engaged in battleMay 11 19:53
DaemonFCand they too were electedMay 11 19:53
DaemonFCMinceR, yes, manyMay 11 19:53
schestowitzhttp://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/8158925.Mum_felt__violated__after_spotting_CCTV_in_WC/May 11 19:54
TechrightsTitle: Mum felt 'violated' after spotting CCTV in Pembrokeshire County Council toilets, Saundersfoot (From Western Telegraph) .::. Size~: 38.11 KBMay 11 19:54
DaemonFCMinceR, A lot of pirates were actually ex-military, because the British Navy didn't pay them 1/3rd as well as the lowest ranking members of a pirate crewMay 11 19:54
DaemonFCYou could have a much more rewarding career as a pirateMay 11 19:54
Ziomatrixschestowitz: "This video contains content from Fremantle International, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." wtf, its a British Sitcom. I usually thought with British programming it tended to be the other way around, oh the irony, use a proxy. :-PMay 11 19:55
MinceRhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate#Pirate_democracyMay 11 19:55
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MinceRfound this :)May 11 19:55
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schestowitzTypical for British shows to block BritsMay 11 19:55
DaemonFCMinceR, the British actually had one achievement in those days that I respectMay 11 19:55
DaemonFCwell, which stands out anywayMay 11 19:56
DaemonFCthe Blunderbuss models they introducedMay 11 19:56
DaemonFCjust pack anything that happens to be availale in with the black powder, and open fireMay 11 19:56
DaemonFCout goes nails, broken glass, anythingMay 11 19:56
DaemonFCdidn't need any particular ammunitionMay 11 19:57
DaemonFCand it would just spray out everywhereMay 11 19:57
MinceRspray-and-pray :>May 11 19:57
DaemonFCvery useful if you were being boardedMay 11 19:57
MinceRor just bored? :>May 11 19:57
DaemonFCMinceR, It was perfect for repelling boardersMay 11 19:58
Omar87schestowitz, MS instructing people about cybersecurity is like a rat teaching a bird how to fly.May 11 19:58
DaemonFCone shot and you could take out at least half a dozen menMay 11 19:58
DaemonFCit was like the shotgun of the 1600sMay 11 19:58
DaemonFCflintlock pistols were useless if there was a wall of men running towards you with swordsMay 11 19:59
DaemonFCyou shoot once and then you run or die, right?May 11 19:59
MinceR:>May 11 19:59
DaemonFCthe blunderbuss could take out the entire front column with one shotMay 11 19:59
DaemonFCthe men following them then have a barricade of dead and wounded flying all over the place in front of themMay 11 20:00
DaemonFCthis is what we call, a head start for you :DMay 11 20:00
DaemonFCMinceR, I'd like to have a 12 gauge pump-action shotgun with magazine drum myselfMay 11 20:02
DaemonFCbut those didn't exist then B-)May 11 20:02
DaemonFCor full tactical body armor for that matterMay 11 20:03
MinceRi'd like a man-portable coilgun :>May 11 20:03
MinceRor an energy gun :>May 11 20:03
DaemonFCupgrade a pirate ship with railgunsMay 11 20:04
DaemonFChmmmMay 11 20:04
DaemonFCthe British would definitely get a surpriseMay 11 20:04
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schestowitzhttp://cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/30/video_reveals_teacher_stealing_from_lockers.html?refresh=1May 11 20:09
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schestowitzClassy!May 11 20:09
schestowitzhttp://reason.com/archives/2010/05/07/we-are-out-of-moneyMay 11 20:09
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schestowitzhttp://reason.com/archives/2010/05/10/meeting-stupidity-with-stupidiMay 11 20:12
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schestowitz'Really? Hitting a delinquent with a potentially fatal 50,000-volt burst of electricity even though he poses no physical danger to anyone and has zero chance of escaping? Maybe the commissioner should read the directions from the Taser manufacturer, which say the devices are meant to "incapacitate dangerous, combative or high-risk subjects."May 11 20:12
schestowitzhttp://elevenislouder.blogspot.com/2010/05/is-linux-religion.htmlMay 11 20:16
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schestowitzHow come he doesn't say it about Micropple?May 11 20:17
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MinceRhe's a proprietardMay 11 20:18
schestowitzhttp://reason.com/archives/2010/05/11/the-bogus-constitutional-argumMay 11 20:30
TechrightsTitle: The Bogus Constitutional Arguments of Arizona's Ultra-Restrictionists - Reason Magazine .::. Size~: 212.83 KBMay 11 20:30
schestowitzMinceR: I'm not sure he usMay 11 20:31
schestowitz*isMay 11 20:31
MinceRthat article reeks of proprietardationMay 11 20:31
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/04/ff_radioshackMay 11 20:31
TechrightsTitle: The Lost Tribes of RadioShack: Tinkerers Search for New Spiritual Home | Magazine .::. Size~: 67.27 KBMay 11 20:31
schestowitzhttp://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/may/10/agilent-will-complete-exit-liberty-lake-fall/May 11 20:34
TechrightsTitle: Agilent will complete exit from Liberty Lake this fall - Spokesman.com - May 10, 2010 .::. Size~: 76.94 KBMay 11 20:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Canonical, Ltd. keeps the server side of UbuntuOne as proprietary software http://ur1.ca/xdhkMay 11 20:40
TechrightsTitle: Episode 0x26: How Evil is Evil? - Software Freedom Law Show - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 13.41 KBMay 11 20:40
MinceRwhy am i not surprised?May 11 20:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @greve #FSFE received Theodor Heuss Medal last Saturday: http://ur1.ca/007lp > It was a truly special and momentous occasion.May 11 20:49
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schestowitzhttp://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2010/05/10/718-why-i-left-facebookMay 11 20:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Canonical, Ltd. keeps the server side of UbuntuOne as proprietary software http://ur1.ca/xdhkMay 11 20:59
TechrightsTitle: Episode 0x26: How Evil is Evil? - Software Freedom Law Show - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 13.41 KBMay 11 20:59
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/05/uh-oh-telcos-93-of-australia-getting-govt-run-fiber.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssMay 11 20:59
TechrightsTitle: Uh-oh, telcos: 93% of Australia getting gov't-run fiber .::. Size~: 32.24 KBMay 11 20:59
amarsh04all the gory details and discussion linked from http://www.whirlpool.net.auMay 11 21:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] SUEPO: The EPO should be integrated into the Community Institutions http://ur1.ca/009u0May 11 21:03
TechrightsTitle: Submit your news: "No Power for the Parliament" warns EPO examiners association .::. Size~: 30.08 KBMay 11 21:03
schestowitzRe: Fwd: Windows 7 faster on Mac hardware :)May 11 21:08
schestowitz> What's the legaility of Benchmarking W2K07, don't they need permissionMay 11 21:08
schestowitz> from MICROS~1. Who did the test?May 11 21:08
schestowitz> May 11 21:08
schestowitz> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part3&num=1May 11 21:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Laptop HD died. Running on Ubuntu liveCD. Toshiba Portege R600 is unspeakable shit and not fit for purpose. Do not buy for any reason, ever.May 11 21:12
schestowitzEyjafjoell, let me go home. http://www.sutor.com/c/2010/05/my-least-favorite-volcano/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BobSutor+%28Bob+Sutor%29May 11 21:15
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schestowitz@davidgerard give PCLOS a goMay 11 21:16
schestowitzWrong window.....May 11 21:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard give PCLOS a goMay 11 21:17
schestowitzCringe got a free hypePad from the cult and now he's boosting them http://www.cringely.com/2010/05/book-em-steve-o/May 11 21:18
TechrightsTitle: I, Cringely  » Blog Archive   » Book em, Steve-O - Cringely on technology  .::. Size~: 99.06 KBMay 11 21:18
schestowitzTHey know why they bribe such bloggersMay 11 21:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz i'm giving the CD I had to hand a go, tomorrow I get a new laptop, and Ubuntu is Work-Approved(tm) :-) ps: TOSHIBA ARE SHIT.May 11 21:19
schestowitzhttp://www.dedoimedo.com/physics/lift-fart.htmlMay 11 21:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard they are indeed. It starts with "tosh" for a reasonMay 11 21:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The blog of @DaHammerstein seems to have been cracked for about a week now. Did he not notice?May 11 21:22
schestowitzhttp://www.trustedreviews.com/laptops/news/2010/04/15/MeeGo-Unveiled--Intel-Brings-Android-Atom-Support/p1May 11 21:26
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schestowitzNokia is weirdMay 11 21:26
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schestowitzBi-polarMay 11 21:26
ender2070hehMay 11 21:27
schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/05/09/fools-and-their-money-are-soon-parted/May 11 21:28
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schestowitzDaniel Eran Dilger is a shill nowMay 11 21:30
schestowitzhttp://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/05/10/reality-check-npds-android-vs-iphone-sales-headlines/May 11 21:30
TechrightsTitle:   Reality Check: NPDs Android vs. iPhone sales headlines  RoughlyDrafted Magazine .::. Size~: 98.89 KBMay 11 21:30
schestowitzDefending Apple no matter what cause Apple does feed himMay 11 21:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New blog post: National Hockey League Playoffs - Who Should You Cheer For If You Are A Leafs Fan? http://bit.ly/av2nOiMay 11 21:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] National Hockey League Playoffs - Who Should You Cheer For If You Are A Leafs Fan? http://bit.ly/bAnGmBMay 11 21:40
TechrightsTitle: National Hockey League Playoffs  Who Should You Cheer For If You Are A Leafs Fan? «  Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 84.61 KBMay 11 21:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The alt+shift+f12 shortcut in! KDE 4.4 is a real treat. X apparently restarted without session hangoff.May 11 21:42
schestowitzender2070: http://ostatic.com/blog/fedora-dropping-official-powerpc-supportMay 11 21:42
TechrightsTitle:  Fedora Dropping Official PowerPC Support  .::. Size~: 28.48 KBMay 11 21:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Unfortunately for software producers, legislative competence in patent area is exclusively owned by the patent producers http://ur1.ca/00c8nMay 11 21:43
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schestowitzMac Asay: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-20004567-16.htmlMay 11 21:44
TechrightsTitle: Fragmenting Linux is not the way to beat Apple | The Open Road - CNET News .::. Size~: 178.68 KBMay 11 21:44
schestowitzalong the lines of, 'Hey, let's not have choice'May 11 21:44
MinceRi wonder where he learned that principle... :>May 11 21:44
schestowitzChurch of Mormon?May 11 21:44
schestowitzWell, actually, even them used to have multiple wives, so...May 11 21:45
schestowitzBut seriously, here is how I see itMay 11 21:45
schestowitzPeople develop for inididualityMay 11 21:45
schestowitzThey won't volunteer to code for UnitedLinux(TM)May 11 21:45
schestowitzTo make IBM et al. richerMay 11 21:45
schestowitzPeople who think that Linux devs can be treated like peons are not programmersMay 11 21:46
schestowitzMac A. is a lawyerMay 11 21:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The @451group Web site produced blank page on http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2010/05/10/do-not-sell-anything-to-your-community/May 11 21:48
MinceRno, church of crAppleMay 11 21:48
MinceRand forcing The One Distro wouldn't merely take motivation awayMay 11 21:49
MinceRit would also remove multiple paths for innovationMay 11 21:49
schestowitzRPM/DEB wars...May 11 21:49
schestowitzImagine just thatMay 11 21:49
schestowitzThen DE....May 11 21:49
MinceRno exploring multiple paths to see what turns out better on the long termMay 11 21:49
ender2070schestowitz - not newsMay 11 21:49
MinceRyes, package managers are a good example of thisMay 11 21:49
schestowitzender2070: not the old M4cs can't run anything too usefulMay 11 21:50
ender2070.deb's dont support deltasMay 11 21:50
schestowitzUbuntu also dumped ppcMay 11 21:50
schestowitzANd Yellow Dog was soldMay 11 21:50
ender2070i thought fedora dropped ppc a while agoMay 11 21:50
schestowitzask zonkerMay 11 21:50
schestowitzI didn't know Fedora supported itMay 11 21:51
schestowitzIt did support bladesMay 11 21:51
schestowitzCellMay 11 21:51
schestowitzhttp://www.doknowevil.net/2010/05/09/solved-konversation-has-no-window-decorations-in-gnome-and-forces-fullscreen/May 11 21:55
TechrightsTitle: [SOLVED] konversation has no window decorations in GNOME and forces fullscreen | Do Know Evil - Tyler Mulligan's Tips and Tricks .::. Size~: 47.91 KBMay 11 21:55
schestowitzIt's a good programMay 11 21:55
schestowitzsebsebseb told me to use it and he was rightMay 11 21:56
schestowitzZonker writes for Ziff now. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Ubuntu-1004-LTS-Server-Is-Getting-There-226199/May 11 21:59
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I did my good deed for the dayMay 11 22:02
DaemonFCI fired off a letter asking Samsung for a disc with the source code to all GPL, LGPL, and other similarly licensed programs they ship on the BD-C5500May 11 22:03
schestowitzThis anti-nux again........ http://robinzrants.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/no-dice/May 11 22:04
TechrightsTitle: No Dice « Robin's Rants & Raves .::. Size~: 18.04 KBMay 11 22:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: goodMay 11 22:04
schestowitzPost about how it goesMay 11 22:04
DaemonFCI willMay 11 22:04
DaemonFCI don't really want it, but I'll publish itMay 11 22:05
schestowitzSamsung is a bedfellow of MicosoftMay 11 22:05
DaemonFCon legal torrents or somethingMay 11 22:05
DaemonFCsomeone may find it handyMay 11 22:05
schestowitzIt pays Microsoft for LinuxMay 11 22:05
cubezzzuh, why?May 11 22:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: http://pastebin.com/rDu061FNMay 11 22:06
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DaemonFCcubezzz, may like that tooMay 11 22:06
cubezzzDaemonFC, you need coreboot for bluray :)May 11 22:07
cubezzzanyways, can't you find the source online?May 11 22:07
DaemonFCnopeMay 11 22:08
DaemonFCnobody has posted itMay 11 22:08
DaemonFCthey have to give it to me, legallyMay 11 22:08
DaemonFCbecause I received the programs in my blu ray playerMay 11 22:08
cubezzzhow can you be sure it's not on the net somewhere?May 11 22:08
DaemonFCafter I get the source code disc, I'll post itMay 11 22:08
Aondodid you see the indie bundle open sourceing some of their games now? :DMay 11 22:09
DaemonFCcubezzz, I'm pretty sure it's notMay 11 22:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: I figure they used so much FOSS, they must have made some changes somewhereMay 11 22:12
schestowitzhttp://www.tannerhelland.com/commentary/ubuntu-linux/linux-toyota-lessons/May 11 22:12
TechrightsTitle: What can Linux learn from Toyota?  (hint: it involves Ubuntu)     .::. Size~: 51.81 KBMay 11 22:12
DaemonFCmaybe those will be useful to othersMay 11 22:12
DaemonFCif one good patch they would otherwise hoard comes of this, it was worth itMay 11 22:12
schestowitzAondo: I posted links to itMay 11 22:12
Aondook :DMay 11 22:13
schestowitzSamsung is one of those Asian companies they think Linux is just "free [to take] code"May 11 22:13
schestowitzIt's a hardware companyMay 11 22:13
ender2070apparently ppc will still be around for fedoraMay 11 22:14
DaemonFCschestowitz: They must make mods here and thereMay 11 22:14
DaemonFCjust to get it working with their stuffMay 11 22:14
ender2070its just a secondary archMay 11 22:14
schestowitzThe latest amarok has new bugsMay 11 22:15
schestowitzThis is annoyingMay 11 22:15
schestowitzIt got prettier but still not 1.4May 11 22:16
ender2070thank god its not 1.4May 11 22:16
schestowitzMore stable than 1.4, but too simple, bugs tooMay 11 22:16
ender2070i dont want any kde3 libsMay 11 22:16
schestowitzI guess it doesn't sip much RAM thoughMay 11 22:16
schestowitzI can live with thatMay 11 22:16
DaemonFCon a modern PC, why worry about it?May 11 22:16
DaemonFCif a KDE 3 app is useful, use itMay 11 22:16
ender2070global warmingMay 11 22:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah it's a good program, altough I have an interesting issue with this Mandriva version.  well not an issue as such, but yes something's happening that shoudn't be reallyMay 11 22:17
ender2070more resources == more electricity == more co2May 11 22:17
ender2070bamMay 11 22:17
ender2070and kde3 sucks daemonfc, and nothing you say makes any senseMay 11 22:17
ender2070why dont we all go back to xmms while we're at it, it 'works'May 11 22:17
schestowitzxmms doesn't work wellMay 11 22:18
DaemonFCI use thatMay 11 22:18
schestowitzI tried it in kde3May 11 22:18
ender2070lolMay 11 22:18
schestowitzit needed tweaksMay 11 22:18
ender2070xmms hasn't seen a new line of code in yearsMay 11 22:18
schestowitzHM..... you got me thinkingMay 11 22:18
*schestowitz checks out xmmsMay 11 22:18
ender2070audacity replaced it with gtk2 techMay 11 22:18
ender2070xmms uses 1.xMay 11 22:18
ender2070anyways gtgMay 11 22:19
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schestowitzroy@roy:~$ sudo apt-get install xmmsMay 11 22:19
schestowitzReading package lists... DoneMay 11 22:19
schestowitzBuilding dependency tree       May 11 22:19
schestowitzReading state information... DoneMay 11 22:19
schestowitzPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.May 11 22:19
schestowitzThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, orMay 11 22:19
schestowitzis only available from another sourceMay 11 22:19
schestowitzE: Package xmms has no installation candidateMay 11 22:19
schestowitzxmms2 is thereMay 11 22:19
DaemonFCschestowitz: xmms2 is not the same thingMay 11 22:20
schestowitzI knowMay 11 22:20
DaemonFCAudacious is what you want if you want a GTK 2 xmmsMay 11 22:20
DaemonFCnot fully plugin compatible thoughMay 11 22:20
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schestowitzI used it beforeMay 11 22:20
schestowitzBut I want lightweightMay 11 22:20
schestowitzwhat was that minimal amarok?May 11 22:21
schestowitzminirokMay 11 22:22
DaemonFCI had a double caffeinated coffee earlierMay 11 22:24
DaemonFCthink it finally wore off :PMay 11 22:24
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Large-scale-attack-on-WordPress-996628.htmlMay 11 22:27
TechrightsTitle: Large-scale attack on WordPress - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.4 KBMay 11 22:27
schestowitzKeep it patched, ryan, brandonMay 11 22:27
DaemonFCI need to figure out what GPL'd stuff Samsung used on my phoneMay 11 22:28
DaemonFCthere should be a copy of the GPL on the phone somewhere, there was on the blu ray playerMay 11 22:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I'm trying minirok, liking it so farMay 11 22:32
schestowitzjust 20mb of ram for minirokMay 11 22:35
schestowitzIt uses pythonMay 11 22:36
schestowitzhttp://www.junauza.com/2010/05/linux-under-spotlight-as-we-prepare-for.htmlMay 11 22:36
TechrightsTitle: Linux Under The Spotlight As We Prepare For A Chaos Bound National Elections | TechSource .::. Size~: 124.24 KBMay 11 22:36
schestowitzminirok looks neatMay 11 22:36
DaemonFCI must be boredMay 11 22:50
DaemonFCHD version of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan passes for entertainmentMay 11 22:50
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/fedora-dropping-official-powerpc-supportMay 11 22:53
schestowitz"May 11 22:53
TechrightsTitle:  Fedora Dropping Official PowerPC Support  .::. Size~: 28.44 KBMay 11 22:53
schestowitz"Say, isn't PowerPC support the very reason that Linus Torvalds himself is using Fedora?"May 11 22:53
schestowitzThat was the original reason but Linus has moved off PPC a while back although he continues to use FedoraMay 11 22:53
schestowitz"May 11 22:54
DaemonFCschestowitz: What about the Kobiyashi Maru?May 11 22:54
DaemonFCwhat would you do? :PMay 11 22:54
schestowitzWhat's that about?May 11 22:57
DaemonFCthe unwinnable situationMay 11 22:57
DaemonFCyou can either let the survivors die or go in after them and get three Klingon battle cruisers attacking you :)May 11 22:57
schestowitzSamsung's CEO...?May 11 22:57
MinceRlolMay 11 22:57
schestowitzHe was sentenced to jail for fruadMay 11 22:57
schestowitzGot back.....May 11 22:57
schestowitzThen put back as chiefMay 11 22:58
schestowitzFraudsterMay 11 22:58
MinceRsamsung is korean, not japanese :>May 11 22:58
DaemonFCschestowitz: You figure anything interesting will come from the source code I get back?May 11 22:58
DaemonFCor at least amusingMay 11 22:58
MinceRgnMay 11 22:58
schestowitzMinceR: did he say Japanese?May 11 22:58
MinceRi thought you thought Kobayashi Maru was samsung's CEOMay 11 22:59
MinceRbut never mindMay 11 22:59
schestowitzMaybe Samsung adds comment to its source code    // I luvs u ballmerMMay 11 22:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: World ends with Torygeddon Lite http://newstechnica.com/?p=2185May 11 23:04
TechrightsTitle: World ends with Torygeddon Lite | NewsTechnica .::. Size~: 35.82 KBMay 11 23:04
schestowitz"May 11 23:07
schestowitzUbuntu 10.04 Update: NetworkingMay 11 23:07
schestowitzI'm aware that there's a wireless networking problem associated with the Lynx, but I'm using a strictly wired LAN with a DSL connection to hit the Internet. I can "refresh" the connection by rebooting the Ubuntu VM, but as of today, the connection only lasts a few minutes before it starts acting dodgy again.May 11 23:07
schestowitzhttp://millionchimpanzees.blogspot.com/2010/05/ubuntu-1004-update-networking.htmlMay 11 23:07
DaemonFCschestowitz: I went back in that grocery store today and ran into that same managerMay 11 23:07
TechrightsTitle: A Million Chimpanzees: Ubuntu 10.04 Update: Networking .::. Size~: 85.16 KBMay 11 23:07
schestowitz"May 11 23:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: bike man?May 11 23:07
DaemonFChe approached me and I told him that next time I'll tie the bike to his big fat ass and that way I know nobody will make off with it if I lose sight of itMay 11 23:07
DaemonFC:DMay 11 23:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I'm in the pub with user @markeeeeeeeeee picture to follow........May 11 23:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitgoo.com/vdq1hMay 11 23:09
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrqNy81jx10&feature=digestMay 11 23:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] After a rushed round I'm on the train home its amazing a quick drink and the train is actually pleasant.May 11 23:24
schestowitzMy cousin is making bizarre video again... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_l8DwsHITU&feature=digestMay 11 23:29
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