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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] So what did they knock down around #London to make room for useless Olympic stadia? Nothing anybody wanted? OK then. #uk #olympics #waste | May 22 00:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@emergentculture +seems to involve a great deal of wishful thinking. "I'd prefer if things were thus, so I'll simply pretend they are thus" | May 22 00:00 | |
| cubezzz | don't think there was any microcomputer Unix in 1983 | May 22 00:01 |
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| cubezzz | so probably University or workplace only | May 22 00:02 |
| tessier | No SCO or Xenix in 1983? | May 22 00:02 |
| cubezzz | ummm | May 22 00:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] I bet #BP CEO's sleep last night wasn't disturbed as much as mine was by thoughts of what is happening in the Gulf. #oil #death #ecocide | May 22 00:02 | |
| tessier | Microsoft purchased a license for Version 7 Unix from AT&T in 1979, and announced on August 25, 1980 that it would make it available for the 16-bit microcomputer market. The initial port of Xenix to the Intel 8086/8088 architecture was performed by The Santa Cruz Operation.[2][3][4][5][6] | May 22 00:02 |
| tessier | Looks like Xenix was available | May 22 00:02 |
| cubezzz | actually yes, there was Xenix starting in 1979 | May 22 00:02 |
| cubezzz | but I really meant open source Unix :) | May 22 00:03 |
| tessier | Oh. BSD was the first official FOSS "Unix". | May 22 00:03 |
| cubezzz | I'll have to recheck my Xenix notes | May 22 00:03 |
| tessier | With Linux being the first official FOSS Un*x. | May 22 00:03 |
| tessier | afail | May 22 00:03 |
| tessier | afaik | May 22 00:03 |
| cubezzz | tessier, but was there a FOSS Unix in 1983? That is the question | May 22 00:03 |
| tessier | No, I don't think so. Only AT&T and BSD. When did BSD go FOSS? Also check out the unix family tree. | May 22 00:04 |
| tessier | http://www.levenez.com/unix/http://www.levenez.com/unix/ | May 22 00:04 |
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| tessier | oops | May 22 00:04 |
| tessier | http://www.levenez.com/unix/ | May 22 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | tessier: Caldera? | May 22 00:05 |
| cubezzz | that is rather unclear to me still | May 22 00:05 |
| tessier | Caldera didn't come along until UNIX had been around for many years | May 22 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw has a UNIX timeline too | May 22 00:06 |
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| cubezzz | I think some Universities had some kind of license and they could see the source code | May 22 00:07 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, Noorda set it up? | May 22 00:07 |
| tessier | Right. AT&T and was generous about licensing to universities. That is what made it popular. | May 22 00:07 |
| tessier | Aside from being technically sound. | May 22 00:07 |
| cubezzz | so does AT&T have anything to do with Unix now? | May 22 00:07 |
| cubezzz | probably not? | May 22 00:08 |
| tessier | Nope. | May 22 00:08 |
| tessier | http://linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2002/02/28/caldera.html seems relevant | May 22 00:09 |
| Techrights | Title: Why Caldera Released Unix: A Brief History - O'Reilly Media .::. Size~: 32.24 KB | May 22 00:09 |
| Ziodotmatrix | tessler: not since it no longer was Mom Bell | May 22 00:09 |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't mind knowing the exact license | May 22 00:09 |
| Ziodotmatrix | cubezzz: I'm sure it's similar to the MIT one, but more limited. | May 22 00:10 |
| cubezzz | could one find the AT&T source from that era? | May 22 00:12 |
| Ziodotmatrix | cubezzz: it's certainly not completely closed since it was essentially made under a defense contract and the last thing the military or research teams would want to use is something completely proprietary. At least back in the day when we knew the implecations of being in a state of war. | May 22 00:13 |
| Ziodotmatrix | nvm, according to the wiki it was closed source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix?wasRedirected=true | May 22 00:15 |
| Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 22 00:15 |
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| DaemonFC | AT&T isn't the same AT&T that did UNIX | May 22 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T sold Bell Labs years ago, and then AT&T's telecom business was bought out by SBC | May 22 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | so the AT&T behind UNIX no longer exists | May 22 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 22 00:20 |
| Ziodotmatrix | DaemonFC: that's what I have been trying to explain. | May 22 00:21 |
| Ziodotmatrix | DaemonFC: when did Unix cross the threshold of being a mostly open source project? | May 22 00:22 |
| cubezzz | ok, what I'm really asking here is what was the FIRST open source operating system? | May 22 00:22 |
| cubezzz | that's what it really boils down to | May 22 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | well, AT&T's UNIX was always open source-ish | May 22 00:22 |
| tessier | HURD? | May 22 00:22 |
| tessier | HURD was before Linux which was before BSD. | May 22 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't really open source because there were severe restrictions on who could use it | May 22 00:23 |
| tessier | MINIX even? What license was on MINIX? | May 22 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | but it wasn't "shared source" (MS term) because those with the source license could modify it | May 22 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T UNIX was something in between | May 22 00:23 |
| tessier | Meanwhile, other events transpired in the realm of Unix. AT&T management backed away from Unix and eventually sold the rights of the system itself to Novell. Novell split what it had bought: It donated the Unix trademark to X/Open and eventually sold the rights for the code to SCO. Mike Tilson of SCO arranged to release the ban on publication of "The Lions Book," John Lions' A Commentary on the Unix System, V6. | May 22 00:24 |
| tessier | Hmm....did that turn out not to be the case in SCO vs Novell? | May 22 00:24 |
| cubezzz | "Operating Systems Design and Implementation (1987). An abridged 12,000 lines of the C source code of the kernel, memory manager, and file system of MINIX 1.0 are printed in the book." | May 22 00:24 |
| cubezzz | yes, Minix predates them all | May 22 00:24 |
| cubezzz | unless there was some pseudo-open source AT&T Unix | May 22 00:25 |
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| cubezzz | it's rather murky | May 22 00:27 |
| cubezzz | Minix was originally "COSS" = Commercial open source software | May 22 00:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Nearly home from work. | May 22 00:28 | |
| cubezzz | "Bell Labs was required to license its nontelephone technology to anyone who asked" | May 22 00:31 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions%27_Commentary_on_UNIX_6th_Edition,_with_Source_Code | May 22 00:32 |
| Techrights | Title: Lions' Commentary on UNIX 6th Edition, with Source Code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 35.06 KB | May 22 00:32 |
| cubezzz | 1976 | May 22 00:32 |
| tessier | cubezzz: Coincidentally, I just added that book to my Amazon wishlist | May 22 00:33 |
| cubezzz | shouldn't be too hard to get | May 22 00:34 |
| cubezzz | it was republished in 1996 | May 22 00:34 |
| tessier | An original is VERY hard to get. | May 22 00:34 |
| tessier | But the reprint is available for sale right now. | May 22 00:34 |
| cubezzz | cool | May 22 00:34 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @_Goblin: I worry about Mrs. Goblin. You are such a buzzy bee. | May 22 00:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @ml2mst Mrs Goblin gets fed up with me being at work at such silly times......long hours too.....hate em.... | May 22 00:51 | |
| cubezzz | I can't believe how many chunks rtorrent has | May 22 00:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] NDA - I appreciate... although these big name companies will be interesting to see...and despite assurances to the contrary, look at MS | May 22 00:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Comment of the day: "good news for ya - Mono is coming to Android! :-)" - If thats good news, I'd hate to see the bad. | May 22 00:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @_Goblin: That's exactly what I was afraid of. Mama needs and deserves the attention of her husband. | May 22 01:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] I subscribed to UnikaKitty's channel on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/user/UnikaKitty?feature=autoshare | May 22 01:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @ml2mst Marty, as always you are as correct as you are insightful, she said as much the other day! | May 22 01:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] How about the NDS? Are you saying games for that have a Mono dependency? Please tell me what you are trying to say. | May 22 01:17 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/22/world/asia/22detain.html | May 22 01:20 |
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| DaemonFC | victory for Bushbama | May 22 01:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @_Goblin: What is NDS? | May 22 01:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @ml2mst Nintendo DS. | May 22 01:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @_Goblin: odd, there are a bunch Nintendo DS emulators which are void of "the Gift to the World". Just checked out "Synaptic" lots of "hits" | May 22 01:36 | |
| _goblin_ | Found out a Mono advocate on Twitter is actually a Novell employee. | May 22 01:43 |
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| yuhong | http://venturebeat.com/2010/05/20/vic-gundotra-google/ | May 22 01:44 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm going to need to figure out a way to survive 12 days on $186 without getting a check advance | May 22 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | this should be interesting | May 22 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | I've never gotten a loan no matter how bad I was hurting | May 22 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | those are a good way to turn being broke for a few days into a months long ordeal :) | May 22 01:47 |
| tessier | Firefox market share is approaching that of IE. Have exploits for firefox increased? | May 22 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | as compared to what? | May 22 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | you'd expect them to go up as more code is added to support more features | May 22 01:53 |
| cubezzz | finally, got rtorrent working | May 22 02:01 |
| _goblin_ | had a cracking conversation with a Mono advocate........ | May 22 02:04 |
| _goblin_ | after asking him this: | May 22 02:04 |
| cubezzz | the things I have to do to keep fc1 up to date :) | May 22 02:04 |
| _goblin_ | "For disclosure purposes, are you a Novell employee?" | May 22 02:04 |
| _goblin_ | what do you reckon he said? | May 22 02:05 |
| _goblin_ | "Yes - I'm a Mono/Moonlight developer" | May 22 02:05 |
| cubezzz | hmm? | May 22 02:05 |
| _goblin_ | but then here is where is gets strange.... | May 22 02:05 |
| _goblin_ | I said "By saying that I haven't seen an unconnected Mono advocate? Why do you think I asked you the question in the first place?" | May 22 02:06 |
| _goblin_ | to which he replied.... | May 22 02:06 |
| _goblin_ | " huh? No, I said I worked for Novell (that's what the "Yes" part was)" | May 22 02:06 |
| _goblin_ | so there you are.... | May 22 02:07 |
| _goblin_ | clear as mud..... | May 22 02:07 |
| cubezzz | I'm not up on Mono stuff | May 22 02:07 |
| _goblin_ | I must have been hit with a stupid stick.........he's a Novell employee but isn't. | May 22 02:07 |
| _goblin_ | its all clear now. | May 22 02:07 |
| _goblin_ | ? | May 22 02:07 |
| cubezzz | yeah, I just avoid stuff like that | May 22 02:08 |
| cubezzz | I like source code :) | May 22 02:08 |
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| cubezzz | usually if I have all the source code for something i feel safe about it | May 22 02:16 |
| cubezzz | I use the Stallman approach, don't use Mono and I don't use C# | May 22 02:16 |
| cubezzz | straight ol' C for me, and sometimes C++ | May 22 02:17 |
| cubezzz | I'm good enough to make fc1 do what I want it to do | May 22 02:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Off to bed. Sweet dreams ;-) | May 22 02:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Second(attempt) today at cheapening me - "I can see now that you are just a troll." Second time to post this link http://tinyurl.com/dz3c2v | May 22 03:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I just signed up for a "protection plan" for all my satellite related stuff | May 22 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | good choice? | May 22 03:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] It has to be the theme for Openbytes! http://tinyurl.com/dz3c2v #openbytes #linux #foss #gnu #mono #novell #microsoft #windows #xp #vista | May 22 03:14 | |
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| cubezzz | ummm | May 22 03:14 |
| cubezzz | well I own my dish so... | May 22 03:15 |
| cubezzz | no reason for protection plan | May 22 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | apparently it covers any accidental damage to receivers, remotes, wiring, the dish itself, etc. | May 22 03:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On a serious note though, why when someone can't argue do they merely insult with "troll" or anarchist or similar? | May 22 03:15 | |
| DaemonFC | like if my idiot neighbor downstairs decided to bash the dish to bits | May 22 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | they would replace it free | May 22 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | they'll replace leased receivers that stop working with or without the plan | May 22 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | but you start the 2 year agreement over from scratch if you don't have the plan | May 22 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | and the damage can't be your fault | May 22 03:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] And If I'm a troll, what is the name for a Nymshifting (and gendershifting) #Microsoft #MVP on my blog? http://tinyurl.com/29frcbk #windows | May 22 03:17 | |
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| cubezzz | well people don't usually climb up and wreck satellite dishes | May 22 03:18 |
| cubezzz | usually they are mounted high enough to make them difficult to reach | May 22 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's on an eight foot tall pike anchored in cement | May 22 03:18 |
| cubezzz | right, sounds pretty safe | May 22 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | not really, all he has to do is climb the stairs to the deck | May 22 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | and it's reight within baseball bat range | May 22 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 22 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | or he could just slash the wiring and be real quiet about it | May 22 03:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] A quick blast of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U990QFyvN3M before bed.....A classic!!! #yourockon #falco | May 22 03:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | *right | May 22 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | he's about as sharp as a bowling ball, cubezzz | May 22 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | high school dropout | May 22 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | started smoking at 12 probably | May 22 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | got a minor pregnant and now he's a registered sex offender that lives with her and the baby | May 22 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | and his mom | May 22 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | you have three generations under one roof and it's not Mexicans, go figure | May 22 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 22 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | he knows how to commit petty acts of theft and vandalism, how to smoke cigarettes and drink beer, and how to get girls pregnant | May 22 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | this makes him dangerous | May 22 03:22 |
| cubezzz | just tell him that microwave energy will make him sterile :) | May 22 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, why? | May 22 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have to explain what microwave energy is | May 22 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | and the benefits of sterility over being a deadbeat parent | May 22 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 22 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | he's shot himself in the feet too many times to ever recover | May 22 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | he's up to knee caps | May 22 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 22 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | once you're a registered sex offender with lifetime notification, you're fucked | May 22 03:28 |
| cubezzz | satellite dishes receive microwave energy, if you tell him that microwaves make one sterile he might stay away from the dish | May 22 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | granted you can get there by taking a leak in the forest | May 22 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | but once you're there, you're finished | May 22 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | nobody wants to hire you | May 22 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | you have no future | May 22 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | that's why he's living with his mom and selling drugs | May 22 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | they're keeping him off the lease because then the sheriff's department would arrest him for living too close to the YMCA after-school daycare | May 22 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 22 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | the law is just a suggestion that has no meaning to anyone but me apparently | May 22 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | everyone else seems to get around it whenever it suits them | May 22 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | but if I park in a Handy Crapped spot | May 22 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | they lay the smack down on me :P | May 22 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | speaking of political correctness, you notice how so many people have paid their doctor to sign off for a handicapped placard that the handicapped spots now run off clear into the boonies? | May 22 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | the person who gets there who needs one of those spots will be out in the handicapped spot out in the middle of the lot | May 22 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 22 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | therefore, "Handy Craped spot" is what I call them | May 22 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | *Crapped | May 22 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | anybody who tells their doctor some handy crap and hands him a $100 can get a placard | May 22 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | disabled or not :) | May 22 03:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Yes, giving me the option to opt-out of predatory overdraft charges by telling the bank to decline a transaction if there are insufficient funds is all part of the Democratic plan for world domination. | May 22 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans wanted to force me to retain my "freedom" to unwittingly incur a $35 overdraft fee when I purchase my 86 cent cup of coffee in the morning. Those Republicans sure love Freedom don't they? | May 22 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | -me | May 22 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | I say sarcasm is the best medicine | May 22 05:39 |
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| unixpropaganda | can someone point me to an article written here covering the the suits nokia filed against apple? Don't get me wrong I'm not a big fan of Apple but I think it ruins our credibility when we ignore equally bullshit cases brought against them | May 22 06:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/10/23/nokia-litigation-strategy/ | May 22 06:36 |
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| tessier | Afraid the commies are stealing your purity of essence? | May 22 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | "One of the reporters was beamed into a cafeteria on level 21, and at the same time half the food reserves disappeared" | May 22 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | Me: "Stargate Command was invaded by Sally Struthers?" | May 22 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 22 07:14 |
| tessier | She stole it for the starving kids. | May 22 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | heh, Teal'c eating Phish Food | May 22 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | Ben & Jerry's | May 22 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | that is a good flavor | May 22 07:17 |
| tessier | Vanilla Caramel Fudge...mmmm | May 22 07:17 |
| tessier | My favorite B&J's | May 22 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | Pistachio Pistachio is good | May 22 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | a spider just bit me | May 22 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | apparently he thought he'd trade his life for my minor aggravation | May 22 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 22 07:19 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux "Saved" a Large Business http://therealedwin.com/2010/05/17/how-linux-saved-a-fast-food-giant/ | May 22 07:24 | |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | May 22 07:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Desktop" Became an Elusive Target for Market to Chase (or How #Linux Grows Where it Matters) http://ur1.ca/02nvn | May 22 07:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] LinuxCertified Starts Selling Powerful #GNU #Linux Laptops http://linuxcertified.com/lc2130_pr.html | May 22 07:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | "Last month McAfee posted a virus definition update that flagged SVCHOST.EXE as a virus" | May 22 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | McAfee is the antivirus suite my ISP gives out for free | May 22 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't use it | May 22 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | Avast has never had an issue like this | May 22 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | Norton and McAfee spread through ISP agreements and pre-installed on new PCs | May 22 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | on new PCs they work for 30 days then badger the user that their computer is at risk and they need to pay money for "protection" | May 22 07:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Benchmarks of #Compiz Use Disputed http://ur1.ca/02nww http://ur1.ca/02nwx | May 22 07:34 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Avert a Comcast disaster. Tell the FCC to stop the Comcast-NBC takeover: http://freepr.es/a5Aa4H | May 22 07:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 13 Gives Many Reasons for Adoption, Fedora Elections Arrive http://ur1.ca/02c9b http://ur1.ca/02jqt | May 22 07:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, then Comcast could tell the satellite companies that they couldn't carry NBC channels | May 22 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 22 07:53 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Westboro Baptist Church, the ultimate IRL trolls, are going to picket Dio's funeral http://ur1.ca/02nz6 | May 22 07:56 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Vast asteroid crater found in Timor Sea http://ur1.ca/02nzb !science | May 22 07:56 | |
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| tessier | Was Dio gay or something? | May 22 07:56 |
| tessier | WTF do they have against him? | May 22 07:57 |
| tessier | Hope some crazy metal head busts their asses. | May 22 07:57 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scientology raid uncovers dossiers on local "enemies": sexual habits, health info, political opinions http://ur1.ca/02nze | May 22 08:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://consumerist.com/2010/05/comcast-says-youll-need-an-antenna-if-you-want-network-tv-in-high-def.html | May 22 08:03 |
| Techrights | Title: Comcast Says You'll Need An Antenna If You Want Network TV In High Def - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 48.2 KB | May 22 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | hahaha | May 22 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://consumerist.com/2010/05/comcast-would-like-you-to-return-the-cable-boxes-destroyed-when-your-home-burned-down.html | May 22 08:04 |
| Techrights | Title: Comcast Would Like You To Return The Cable Boxes Destroyed When Your Home Burned Down - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 49.99 KB | May 22 08:04 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] RapidShare didn't infringe on copyrights, says US court http://ur1.ca/02o0r | May 22 08:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LWN Analyses Nokia's Move to #Btrfs https://lwn.net/Articles/387196/ | May 22 08:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows Applications Run on #Nokia 's #Linux Phones With #Wine http://ur1.ca/02o23 #maemo | May 22 08:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ASUS Sells Sub-notebooks Without an Operating System http://techreport.com/articles.x/18883 | May 22 08:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla #Firefox Continues to Show Strong Growth http://ur1.ca/02o2i http://ur1.ca/02o2j | May 22 08:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/21/not-just-for-drug-dealers-and-15-year-olds-kickin-it-old-school-with-a-prepaid-phone/ | May 22 08:42 |
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| DaemonFC | lol | May 22 08:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Alone Activates Over 100,000 New #Linux Machines Per Day http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/20/android-numbers/ | May 22 09:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Televisions to Run #Linux With Free Code http://ur1.ca/02oba http://ur1.ca/02obb http://ur1.ca/02obc | May 22 09:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Dumping #hypePhone for #Linux : Yet Another Example http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2010/05/open-android-vs-closed-iphone.html #android | May 22 09:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Obama is Still Attacking Civil Rights With #ACTA Promotion http://ur1.ca/02ocg act now http://ur1.ca/rdtf http://ur1.ca/02och | May 22 09:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free/Open #Hardware : Still Gaining Traction http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/05/make-offs-diy-indie-innovation.html | May 22 09:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Usenet Death Watch: Hollywood's Copyright Cartel Mostly to Blame http://ur1.ca/02ocz http://ur1.ca/02od0 http://ur1.ca/02od1 | May 22 09:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Wow. Chromium on GNU/Linux is very fast. Still, I'd rather support Mozilla, not Google. It also has more plugins. | May 22 09:36 | |
| bentkus | schestowitz: have you read the newest news on monodroid? | May 22 09:50 |
| schestowitz | yes | May 22 09:58 |
| schestowitz | But maybe I missed some | May 22 09:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@ishtarmuz presumably they think Gawd left #oil here as a kind of "fuel dump" to get Xtians as far as the Rapture&no further. awesomely dim | May 22 09:58 | |
| schestowitz | What I did notice though, is that camp Mono started attacking me again... | May 22 09:58 |
| schestowitz | I saw the Novell PR blog item about it | May 22 09:59 |
| schestowitz | I haven't yet checked to see what other blogs say about it. Paste here if you have something, please | May 22 09:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@ishtarmuz note how this fits into the no-holds-barred exploitation mindset. "Gawd left it here 4 US! We are OBLIGED to use it ALL,ASAP!" | May 22 10:00 | |
| bentkus | on miguels blog | May 22 10:02 |
| bentkus | the want to release monodroid and they want to support vs2008/10 instead of monodevelop | May 22 10:02 |
| schestowitz | thangk | May 22 10:03 |
| schestowitz | g2g | May 22 10:03 |
| tessier | http://therealedwin.com/2010/05/17/how-linux-saved-a-fast-food-giant/ | May 22 10:04 |
| Techrights | Title: How Linux Saved A Fast Food Giant. | Holy Crap My Hair Is On Fire .::. Size~: 119.54 KB | May 22 10:04 |
| tessier | I'm pretty sure that is Burger King. The location of corporate HQ (Miami, Florida) and number of directly managed (non-franchised) locations lines up. | May 22 10:05 |
| tessier | Awesome story of Linu cleaning up WIndows' mess. | May 22 10:05 |
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| oiaohm | Boy the fun of sorting out a mailing box. | May 22 10:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'What has happened in #Greece is theft on an epic, though not unfamiliar, scale' #PILGER http://bit.ly/bNkqEc via @alykhansatchu | May 22 10:07 | |
| Techrights | Title: New Statesman - The heresy of the Greeks offers hope .::. Size~: 28.47 KB | May 22 10:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'right-wing govt of Karamanlis..described as "a machine for systematically pillaging [#Greece's] resources" Pilger: http://bit.ly/bNkqEc | May 22 10:09 | |
| Techrights | Title: New Statesman - The heresy of the Greeks offers hope .::. Size~: 28.47 KB | May 22 10:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@alykhansatchu “Whites only” signs from 1931. http://nyti.ms/be7lsv // for the 2010 model, look to #AZ #SB1070 | May 22 10:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ugh, emergency dental appointment. | May 22 10:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Santander. You still suck. Refusing my card then refusing to unblock because I happened to use my card when in belgium. | May 22 12:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hah! The trigger for having my card blocked was because I bought a song in the UK Ubuntu One music store, whilst I was outside the UK! | May 22 12:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] The sqlninja toolkit targets SQL Server (the weakest) not MySQL (most popular on the net). Yet another counter-example... | May 22 12:31 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/IBM-hands-out-infected-USB-drives-at-security-conference-1005580.html Opps | May 22 12:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Geschokt: Piratenpartij haalt slecht 10.36% in de poll op http://tweakers.net | May 22 12:40 | |
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| *schestowitz back from a wonderful run down the canal | May 22 12:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Newsbytes 22/05/10 – Microsoft/Google/BT/P2P - http://tinyurl.com/3xxjgs6 #p2p #tpb #ie #microsoft #vista #xp #linux #gnu | May 22 12:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Find out how #Microsoft couldn't even bring down a Lithuanian Torrent Tracker site: http://tinyurl.com/3xxjgs6 #mvp #p2p #fail #piracy | May 22 12:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Currently listening to Linux Outlaws Ep 149: http://linuxoutlaws.com/ #linux #foss #outlaws #microsoft #windows #xp #vista #mvp | May 22 12:48 | |
| Techrights | Title: Linux Outlaws | We aim to misbehave. .::. Size~: 13.31 KB | May 22 12:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2010/05/17/yay-for-barriers/ | May 22 13:00 |
| Techrights | Title: yay for barriers « codeblog .::. Size~: 56.3 KB | May 22 13:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] High Performance Servers Run #GNU #Linux , Apple and Microsoft Out of the Game http://ur1.ca/02paz http://ur1.ca/02pb0 | May 22 13:03 | |
| Techrights | Title: Sgi advances linux on the hpc front - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 72.55 KB | May 22 13:03 |
| Techrights | Title: An HPC Field Trip | Linux Magazine .::. Size~: 43.68 KB | May 22 13:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kernel Foundation Adds Automation Development Lab; #Linux Includes Bleeding-edge Features http://ur1.ca/02pd0 http://ur1.ca/02pd2 | May 22 13:12 | |
| Techrights | Title: Open source industrial group joins the Linux Foundation - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 54.32 KB | May 22 13:12 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Esperando ser atendido para pedir o almoco n'O Barril, em Aveiro. Sentado ha 20 minutos... comeca bem... | May 22 13:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the Latest X.Org Server ( #Linux Graphics Stack) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODI3MA | May 22 13:39 | |
| Techrights | Title: [Phoronix] The State Of The X.Org Server 1.9 Release .::. Size~: 16.44 KB | May 22 13:39 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gallium3D is Improving for #Linux , #AmigaOS Wants Gallium3D Support Too http://ur1.ca/02pkh http://ur1.ca/02pki | May 22 13:49 | |
| Techrights | Title: [Phoronix] Gallium3D Anti-Aliasing (MSAA) Is Going In .::. Size~: 16.04 KB | May 22 13:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Loyalty to the Firefox brand must be one of the highest out there in technology. I first used Firefox in 2003. When did others start? | May 22 13:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Good Game is Coming to #GNU #Linux http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/danger-deep | May 22 14:01 | |
| Techrights | Title: Danger from the Deep | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 37.78 KB | May 22 14:01 |
| schestowitz | heh. http://theoatmeal.com/comics/printers | May 22 14:02 |
| Techrights | Title: Why I Believe Printers Were Sent From Hell To Make Us Miserable - The Oatmeal .::. Size~: 16.63 KB | May 22 14:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: French Chamber of Commerce selects #opensource for craftsmen - http://bit.ly/b3dc9H amazing #freesoftware #france | May 22 14:07 | |
| Techrights | Title: FR: Chamber of Commerce selects open source for craftsmen — .::. Size~: 28.71 KB | May 22 14:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Finalmente a papinha veio, e ja se foi. Estava boa. Segue-se a sobremesa, cafe e conta. Depois, mais uns kms ate Lx. | May 22 14:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Free/Libre Extensions to Browsers http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7781/1.html | May 22 14:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: Kick Out the Jams: Firefox and Chrome Extensions for Music Lovers | Linux Magazine .::. Size~: 44.38 KB | May 22 14:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz not convinced.ff is losing mindshare to Chrome & chromium everywhere I look | May 22 14:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jmcesteves: #ACTA How-to for national parliaments - http://bit.ly/9laG4W shows influence national parliaments still can have | May 22 14:22 | |
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| oiaohm | Darn I might buy that poster schestowitz | May 22 14:25 |
| schestowitz | which one, oiaohm? | May 22 14:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE SC Appears at Ökumenischer Kirchentag; #GNOME Desktop Gets Better #Nautilus Sidebar http://ur1.ca/02pr2 http://ur1.ca/02pr3 | May 22 14:26 | |
| oiaohm | The printers from hell. | May 22 14:26 |
| Techrights | Title: KDE at Ökumenischer Kirchentag | KDE.news .::. Size~: 49.29 KB | May 22 14:26 |
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| oiaohm | So I can point those poor people who make the mistake of complaining about printer to me. | May 22 14:27 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: oh, *that* | May 22 14:27 |
| oiaohm | I do have a good samsung printer that never jams. | May 22 14:27 |
| oiaohm | Works like a dream. | May 22 14:27 |
| oiaohm | Only one catch the bugger cost 800 dollars. | May 22 14:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra ♺ @jmcesteves: #ACTA How-to for national parliaments - http://bit.ly/9laG4W shows influence national parliaments still can have | May 22 14:27 | |
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| oiaohm | Yes you get what you pay for. schestowitz | May 22 14:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another #GNU #Linux Distribution to Act as a Media Centre http://ur1.ca/02ps7 | May 22 14:34 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/14/blog-libya-plane-crash-survivor | May 22 14:39 |
| Techrights | Title: Blog details Libya plane crash survivor's safari with family | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 60.02 KB | May 22 14:39 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I didn't know they made printers too | May 22 14:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.examiner.com/x-27487-International-Travel-Examiner~y2010m5d14-Travel-blog-reveals-insight-to-the-Libya-crash-survivors-family-safari | May 22 14:39 |
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| oiaohm | They don't do cheep. schestowitz | May 22 14:41 |
| oiaohm | Biggest thing that wears on there lasers is cartridge detection. | May 22 14:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I don't fight Microsoft as a company, I fight Microsoft as a concept. The MS concept is the basic image of imperialism by war, or consensus. | May 22 14:44 | |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | May 22 14:46 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Hi | May 22 14:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, did you check out my latest tweet? | May 22 14:48 |
| schestowitz | it's a good one | May 22 14:51 |
| schestowitz | But for me it's behaviour that's the problem | May 22 14:51 |
| schestowitz | I stated all along, I don't care for brand, not even Linux brands. | May 22 14:51 |
| schestowitz | I've criticised Red Hat, IBM, Google, etc. when their behaviour was bad in some areas. | May 22 14:52 |
| oiaohm | Omar87: I pick on MS because I know the end of time has to come for them. | May 22 14:53 |
| oiaohm | History is full of failures of companies who failed to make standard products. | May 22 14:54 |
| Omar87 | oiaohm, exactly. | May 22 14:54 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Exactly. | May 22 14:54 |
| schestowitz | We could use your help | May 22 14:54 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Yes. That's exactly what I believe too. | May 22 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Basically, to get credibility you must stay objective and not hypocritical | May 22 14:54 |
| schestowitz | I don't give companies a free pass for promoting swpats and I sometimes eat insults for this... but people do trust me too | May 22 14:55 |
| schestowitz | What we need to do is, we ought to create more tabled | May 22 14:55 |
| schestowitz | *tables | May 22 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the issue with Linux distributions is the failure to form standards. | May 22 14:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Manhandled two 5MB drives into storage today. #retrocomputing | May 22 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | I recently started a list of good/bad in companies | May 22 14:55 |
| schestowitz | For softare freedom | May 22 14:55 |
| Omar87 | True. And that's why I've stated that it's not the company that I care about, it's their nefarious unethical attitudes that I care to expose. | May 22 14:56 |
| oiaohm | I know more computer history than most people I know. | May 22 14:56 |
| schestowitz | The FSF's Kuhn says correctly that rather than dismiss entire companies we need to address the part of them that's wrong or the products that violate freedoms | May 22 14:56 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people miss the message and they think like, Google=good, Apple=bad, Novell-bad | May 22 14:56 |
| schestowitz | But it's a lot more complicated | May 22 14:56 |
| oiaohm | We are seeing more and more companys create standards to take their fate in there own hands. | May 22 14:56 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I agree. | May 22 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Really I see software patents as a double sided sword. | May 22 14:57 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: probably, you do know history | May 22 14:57 |
| schestowitz | I can't say much about the 80s | May 22 14:57 |
| oiaohm | We need more open source patent agreements requiring give up of patents to be used for defence. | May 22 14:58 |
| schestowitz | [14:56] <oiaohm> We are seeing more and more companys create standards to take their fate in there own hands. | May 22 14:58 |
| schestowitz | Adobe, Apple... | May 22 14:58 |
| oiaohm | So infect making it really bad news to be closed source. | May 22 14:58 |
| oiaohm | To be correct offence would be even better. | May 22 14:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @omar_s_hafez there's a cluster of bad ideas around #microsoft. e.g. homogeneity/totalitarianism. But what can we expect from a sociopath? | May 22 14:58 | |
| oiaohm | Yes you agree to attack anyone with a closed source product doign the same. | May 22 14:58 |
| oiaohm | I am not talking about Adobe and Apple. I am talking deeper down the line. | May 22 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Like google making its own video standard. In the past google would have taken what ever came thier way. | May 22 15:01 |
| oiaohm | There is a www.bpmi.org as well. schestowitz | May 22 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Basically the game is changing. | May 22 15:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] I just unlocked the "Newbie" badge on @foursquare! http://4sq.com/ccouXW | May 22 15:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SystemRescueCd , Arch Linux, #Mandriva Linux Step up in Versions http://ur1.ca/02px9 http://ur1.ca/01o4f http://ur1.ca/02pxa | May 22 15:05 | |
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| oiaohm | Basically what would have been clients in the past are ganging up slowly. schestowitz | May 22 15:09 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/8687963.stm "Scientists have identified a reason why lithium batteries in laptops and mobile phones may overheat and catch fire." | May 22 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: which ones? Patent holders? | May 22 15:09 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: simpler resolution is, just destroy patentability of non-physical things | May 22 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Really only way to remove the patentablity is cause a MAD event. schestowitz | May 22 15:11 |
| oiaohm | That the people pushing patents find them self stuck good and proper. | May 22 15:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise happy birthday! | May 22 15:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Packed away distribution tapes/cds for DRS/NX, DG/UX (Aviion), RISCos, among others #retrocomputing | May 22 15:13 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: that happens in mobile right now | May 22 15:21 |
| *schestowitz tempted to go outside to the sun | May 22 15:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] One more day at work then two days off...... | May 22 15:23 | |
| oiaohm | Its still might happen schestowitz | May 22 15:27 |
| oiaohm | Not happened. | May 22 15:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @qu1j0t3 Sociopath? | May 22 15:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 well, @omar_s_hafez put it gentle. He could also said "criminal" (with 3+ convictions) | May 22 15:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Wi-Fi #Router Runs #Linux , Multi-core #Embedded Systems Run Linux Too http://ur1.ca/02q2i http://ur1.ca/02q2j | May 22 15:34 | |
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| schestowitz | http://disruptive.org.uk/2010/05/21/london_bombs_45.html | May 22 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | We've managed to keep safe since then | May 22 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | But the civil liberties eroded quite badly | May 22 15:36 |
| schestowitz | http://news.dzone.com/dose/dzone-daily-dose-514 | May 22 15:47 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Fixe era o Sapo Videos ter isso :) ♺ @celso: Video JS | HTML5 Video Player http://345d.sl.pt | May 22 16:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] chuif q nao podia ir... ♺ @ndantas: hei..este encontro tá bem encaminhado ..acho eu ;) #portolinux | May 22 16:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Free/Open Source Robot Runs #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/02qcp http://ur1.ca/02qcq | May 22 16:33 | |
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| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/05/20/cnet.google.fonts/ | May 22 16:41 |
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| schestowitz | What about Red Hat's liberation fonts? | May 22 16:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] I'm at Mojo's. http://4sq.com/d4rKHH | May 22 16:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Future is Bright for Software Freedom http://www.linuxforu.com/interviews/future-is-bright-for-open-source-enthusiasts/ | May 22 16:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] I just unlocked the "Crunked" badge on @foursquare! http://4sq.com/9o4ka3 | May 22 17:02 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/347370/study_60_per_cent_facebook_users_mulling_quit/ | May 22 17:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenBSD 4.7 and #VirtualBox 3.2 Are Released http://ur1.ca/02qle http://ur1.ca/02qlf http://ur1.ca/02qlg | May 22 17:09 | |
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| Alessandro__ | Microsoft employee recommends Firefox: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/Vsexpressinstall/thread/577b59b6-195d-4517-acc3-0338bb5a13da | May 22 17:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/21/mozilla_apps_store/ | May 22 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | " | May 22 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Firefox co-founder Blake Ross, who now works at Facebook, reportedly wrote on Quora that Mozilla had returned to its sheepish ways. | May 22 17:11 |
| schestowitz | "I think the Mozilla Organisation has gradually reverted back to its old ways of being too timid, passive and consensus-driven to release breakthrough products quickly," he argued. | May 22 17:11 |
| schestowitz | " | May 22 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/102546 "the best faif version of chrome is still iron browser, imo. both browsers are still getting faster, and i agree with you on mozilla" | May 22 17:25 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] List of Seven Top #CMS Software That is Free/Libre http://www.junauza.com/2010/05/7-more-best-free-and-open-source.html | May 22 17:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] UK Government to Help Software Freedom, Potentially Give Education Another Chance http://ur1.ca/02qom http://ur1.ca/02qon | May 22 17:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Tomorrow I'm going to write an article (with photos) completely with my HTC/android....let's see how easy it really is. | May 22 17:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] It's going to document Harpenden Carnival as I am there. | May 22 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Hackers-penetrate-Carder-forum-1003655.html "They point out that their hack was made easier by the laxness of the access rights to the Linux system assigned by the administrator. Reportedly, all users had read access to the entire system including /root, and the web server account was set up as owner of all files." | May 22 17:38 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Danish Government Explanation of Why Truly Open #Standards Are Important http://ur1.ca/02qqg | May 22 17:39 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.hardocp.com/news/2010/05/20/9000_pcs_in_swiss_schools_going_linux_only/ | May 22 17:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @stewiex: Oscar winning Lightworks video editor is coming to Linux: http://is.gd/ckEnC #linux | May 22 18:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey That's anecdotal; see http://ur1.ca/02o2i http://ur1.ca/02o2j #Mozilla #Firefox continues to gain | May 22 18:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2010/jun/10/failure-american-jewish-establishment/ | May 22 18:21 |
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| DaemonFC | Omar87 should like that | May 22 18:21 |
| cubezzz | I still use links/lynx more and more | May 22 18:33 |
| cubezzz | stocks, google, weather... | May 22 18:34 |
| cubezzz | same thing I said back in the 80's really | May 22 18:34 |
| cubezzz | when windows 2.0 came out, I complained it was turtle slow | May 22 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Opera | May 22 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 22 18:35 |
| cubezzz | Xenix and later SCO Unix System V was so much better | May 22 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | I keep up with the daily builds | May 22 18:35 |
| cubezzz | closed source DaemonFC | May 22 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | so? | May 22 18:35 |
| cubezzz | hardly ideal | May 22 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | why? | May 22 18:35 |
| cubezzz | I can't port opera | May 22 18:35 |
| cubezzz | or anything which is closed | May 22 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | so? | May 22 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | it works on pretty much everything anyway | May 22 18:36 |
| cubezzz | no zaurus update in ages | May 22 18:36 |
| cubezzz | correct me if I'm wrong | May 22 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | why do I care? | May 22 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | it works on my phone :) | May 22 18:36 |
| cubezzz | you don't care now | May 22 18:37 |
| cubezzz | you might in the future though | May 22 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | doubt it | May 22 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's worked fine for me for years | May 22 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | no sign of that changing | May 22 18:37 |
| cubezzz | a big point about Unix, and most people don't think about this, is it is mainly a textual system | May 22 18:39 |
| cubezzz | and you can always do things faster that way | May 22 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, if you remember thousands of commands that don't take anything close to standard arguments | May 22 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | and have weird accelerator keys to do stuf that no sane person would have implemented :D | May 22 18:41 |
| cubezzz | accelerator keys? | May 22 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | DOS ended up being more consistent than UNIX | May 22 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | of course whenever I have to use a command prompt of any kind, I hum the dungeon tune from Mario Bros. | May 22 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 22 18:42 |
| cubezzz | you don't what to go there :) | May 22 18:42 |
| cubezzz | you just talked about how crap the memory model was in MS DOS yesterday | May 22 18:42 |
| cubezzz | DOS wasn't really that good | May 22 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | oh my god | May 22 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | an old friend of mine was shot to death | May 22 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | apparently some drug dealers were shooting at each other and he got hit by some stray bullets | May 22 18:44 |
| cubezzz | how did you find out about it? | May 22 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | a crime stoppers thing on WANE-TV | May 22 18:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Freda can blow bubbles herself! | May 22 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did you watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKncDLnqYh8 ? | May 22 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | It's over 9,000 !! | May 22 18:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: sorry to hear the news about your friend, I had missed that | May 22 19:03 |
| schestowitz | That article you posted about self-censorship and censorship... anything to do with a religion cannot be criticised | May 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | The whole notion of "blasphemy" or "Racism" becomes just a blanket or censorship card | May 22 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | Fort Wayne is getting pretty bad | May 22 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | crime going up along with the unemployment | May 22 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | probably to be expected | May 22 19:05 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz Sure, but FF has a massive head start on Chrome. FF was young once. T | May 22 19:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz Sure, but FF has a massive head start on Chrome. FF was young once. | May 22 19:30 | |
| schestowitz | This guy is right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgWRaJLbLWU&feature=related | May 22 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah, expected | May 22 19:36 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | May 22 19:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey I hope both gain at MSIE's expense | May 22 19:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aashiks: ♻ @gcala: sharing snapshots- install pastebin plasmoid; press F12 and drag preview on pastebin; wait upload; share #ktips #kde | May 22 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMz0aIM2_sM&NR=1 | May 22 19:44 |
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| DaemonFC | now the post office is throwing my mail in other peoples box | May 22 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | and their mail in mine | May 22 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | and the mail for today isn't even here yet | May 22 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | this is after I clearly labeled my box | May 22 19:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @wikileaks Next big Iceland press haven vote is scheduled for June. Support it and keep #Iceland strong! http://immi.is/ | May 22 19:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz Well, of course :) I worry that mozilla vs chrome has the same arrogance as IE via mozilla of the past. | May 22 19:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUQsRPJ1dYw Scary little dog. All it needs is lasers and we're doomed! Although that handle looks useful :) | May 22 19:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra ♺ @wikileaks Next big Iceland press haven vote is scheduled for June. Support it and keep #Iceland strong! http://immi.is/ | May 22 19:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey they have too little bundling power | May 22 19:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Na Costa da Caparica, Tasca do Leandro. | May 22 20:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @ndantas: grande, grande grande encontro técnico do #portolinux o de hoje! | May 22 20:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think I got my mail delivery sorted out | May 22 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | turns out they've had 6 different carriers this week | May 22 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | this guy will be on my route for a while, so I just took him to the side and explained how I wanted my mail delivered :P | May 22 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | and I have two Blu Ray movies to watch tonight B-) | May 22 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | According to Texas, Jesus was now the first president of the United States | May 22 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 22 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Apple is making accusations that VP8 is simply a verbatim pirate copy of h.264's baseline profile with more bugs | May 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is also FUDding VP8 but said they won't stop it from working if you install a DirectShow filter for it in Windows | May 22 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The industry thrives on free and open source implementations of their patented codecs | May 22 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | even when they're not licensed | May 22 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | if everyone has an MP3 or an AAC encoder for example, that gives them the chance to make unlimited files in those formats | May 22 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | the industry likes to turn a blind eye to unlicensed encoders and a few small media players here and there, because they make the format popular | May 22 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | then the industry can make hardware manufacturers pay up and integrate the licensing into the cost of your MP3 player | May 22 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | (or other device) | May 22 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's no coincidence that open source projects implementing patented codecs aren't sued | May 22 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | but then there's the flip side where lots of big corporations with lots of money to keep it in courts for eternity and can't simply be bullied or stalled in court until they're out of money get behind a codec project | May 22 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | this is what WebM is | May 22 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that even if the patent violations are valid, the MPEG Cartel will be reluctant to sue the companies behind WebM | May 22 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | if Google had taken something like this on when they were a start-up, the lawsuits would already be filed | May 22 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably use webm to rip to when there's some software that can support it | May 22 20:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] oh my poor muenchen friends, suffering from Mourinho's team ;) | May 22 20:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] By Pushing Mono Into #Android , #Novell Puts #Microsoft Before Freedom http://ur1.ca/02rlo #java #linux #gnu | May 22 21:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] My review on Kites - "Total bogus movie" do not waste your money #kites | May 22 21:07 | |
| schestowitz |  | May 22 21:14 |
| schestowitz | [20:27] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: I think I got my mail delivery sorted out | May 22 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Why would I mind though? | May 22 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | because it's comical | May 22 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | To you. | May 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | brb shower | May 22 21:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell is Promoting #Vista7 — Again http://ur1.ca/02roj Three new examples of Novell’s marketing staff praising and helping to sell MSFT | May 22 21:24 | |
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| Fattie | http://www.cioupdate.com/features/article.php/3883691/Red-Hat-Commercializes-deltaCloud-Eyes-a-More-Open-Cloud.htm http://www.cioupdate.com/features/article.php/3883691/Red-Hat-Commercializes-deltaCloud-Eyes-a-More-Open-Cloud.htm | May 22 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | The Empire Strikes Back in HD | May 22 21:29 |
| Fattie | oops, sorry for double link | May 22 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 22 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | they need to make another Rogue Squadron game | May 22 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 22 21:29 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] No, Mourinho happens ;) ♺ @stephwho: shit happens!!! | May 22 21:43 | |
| _goblin | Hi all.... | May 22 21:44 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: whats an access troll? | May 22 21:44 |
| schestowitz | desu: Too humid here these days, no A/C... | May 22 21:45 |
| schestowitz | oops. I meant daemonfc | May 22 21:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] wasted my valuable 100 minute on two moronic website , @Naukri & Monser.com to delete my account. unable to find a delete account #fail | May 22 21:45 | |
| schestowitz | _goblin: a troll that works for ACCESS | May 22 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Trolls are a waste of time | May 22 21:46 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: seen the latest issue with MonoDroid? | May 22 21:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Olha a pose a la Horacio Caine do Mourinho... aprendeu com o CSI Miami, foi? :) | May 22 21:46 | |
| schestowitz | I think there's this miserable last attempt from them to make Mono relevant | May 22 21:46 |
| _goblin | ...A Novell employee mentioned MonoDroid....nothing about issues though | May 22 21:48 |
| _goblin | A user (who never made it clear) tried promoting Mono at me.... | May 22 21:48 |
| _goblin | I asked him for disclosure and he admitted he was a novell employee | May 22 21:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gartner Hypnosis: Pretending #Android and #Linux Are Totally Separate http://ur1.ca/02rtd #fud #analyst | May 22 22:04 | |
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| schestowitz | Expectedly, it upsets people when the deception is so shallow that anyone can see it. Gartner has done that again. | May 22 22:06 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: in your blog? | May 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: I feel a little bad for them | May 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | They work for a living | May 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Coding this stuff | May 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Some make proprietary software | May 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Which harms users | May 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Others make Moni | May 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | *mono | May 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | When also harms freedom on other ways | May 22 22:07 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: It was on Twitter....he mooched in on a Mono conversation and started his advocacy...of course he turned nasty in the end by calling me a troll (yet he engaged me in conversation) | May 22 22:09 |
| _goblin | I wouldn't care, if he hadn't spoken to me first, I never would have even known he was there. | May 22 22:10 |
| _goblin | Yet apparently I can troll someone who interupts my conversation with their advocacy.... | May 22 22:11 |
| _goblin | Lefty has had a try aswell. He seems to think that me using 6 twitter posts to respond to him (I find the 140 char restrictive) is a sign of an obsessive. I would say its a sign of not liking one-liners that he seems to favour.... | May 22 22:12 |
| _goblin | but my main concern with him is what on earth is a grown man doing behaving in this way..? | May 22 22:13 |
| cubezzz | you can make money without mono | May 22 22:24 |
| cubezzz | definitely | May 22 22:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @slashdot: Quantum Teleportation Achieved Over 16 km In China http://bit.ly/cxpS9E | May 22 22:29 | |
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| cubezzz | links is faster than firefox... way faster | May 22 22:30 |
| cubezzz | I think I could even do paypal and internet banking on it | May 22 22:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft , Freedom, Choice, and Other Terminology Games http://ur1.ca/02ry4 #spin #orwell #pr #choice | May 22 22:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] No, #ASUS Did Not Abandon Netbook #Linux http://techrights.org/2010/05/22/asus-reality/ Response to @sjvn | May 22 23:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Try to work this out: http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=18 Is Astralknight having a conversation with himself? Is it even Astralknight at all? | May 22 23:17 | |
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| cubezzz | this is a great Stallman quote: | May 22 23:18 |
| cubezzz | "“Thanks to Mr. Gates, we now know that an open Internet with protocols anyone can implement is communism; it was set up by that famous communist agent, the US Department of Defense.” | May 22 23:18 |
| cubezzz | –Richard Stallman" | May 22 23:18 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | May 22 23:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 10 Linux Alternatives to Songbird - http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/information/10-linux-alternatives-songbird/ | May 22 23:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Quantum Teleportation Achieved Over 16 km In China http://tinyurl.com/3ywudbe | May 22 23:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Why don't goth clubs play "Death of the European" more? Much more? This needs remedied. | May 22 23:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin ogg123 is all you need! | May 22 23:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I never even spoke to him/her, so it's probably fake | May 22 23:35 | |
| schestowitz | _goblin: don't feed the trolls. | May 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | I look for simplicity in life and leave complexity to work. | May 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | Stop feeding the trolls, who are possibly linking to their own forgeries as some of them occasionally do | May 22 23:36 |
| cubezzz | are they trolls or just clueless? | May 22 23:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz You mean Astralknight?I would expect due to the fact that they havent corroborated on their twitter account,it probably is fake | May 22 23:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I no longer comment in blogs because people fake my identity and the identity of others. Any idiot can plant 'evidence' | May 22 23:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Roy, I was more interested why Lefty would link a message such as that on his Twitter... | May 22 23:59 | |
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