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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/c8r7x/new_bp_logo_pic/ | May 28 00:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Web forms and Linux [IMG]: http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1204_signs.jpg | May 28 00:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | why am I humming music from the first Final Fantasy video game? | May 28 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 28 00:09 |
| MinceR | Daft Punk - Veridis Quo is playing in my head | May 28 00:10 |
| scientes | arggg, how do i build modpost | May 28 00:12 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13639_3-20006101-42.html | May 28 00:16 |
| Techrights | Title: X-51A races to hypersonic record | Military Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 101.02 KB | May 28 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR violates MPEG-LA's Adaptive Multi-Rate Encoding IP with impunity and no remorse | May 28 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | (so do I, it's all good) | May 28 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 28 00:19 |
| MinceR | i violate more than that :> | May 28 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | MPEG-LA....What's the LA part for? Larcenous Assholes? | May 28 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 28 00:20 |
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| MinceR | gn | May 28 00:49 |
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| DaemonFC | I just explained to my mom why they don't make her makeup anymore :P | May 28 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | "Because they make whatever costs the least to produce and sells the most at Walmart. The 14 year old girls wearing jeans three sizes too small with tongue rings and purple hair are deciding what kind of makeup is produced." | May 28 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 28 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Just like 900 pound woman with an alimony check decides what kind of computers they carry | May 28 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | and her ex-husband is the reason they carry deep fried breaded bacon wrapped bacon cheese byproduct burgers in the meat department | May 28 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 28 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | mass market crap aimed at the bargain basement uneducated unwashed well-fed masses | May 28 01:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Deaf 8mo baby gets cochlear implant - reaction when it's turned on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDD7Ohs5tAk | May 28 01:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The biggest gripe I have about Walmart is that while they carry enough products to get the job done most of the time, they run the specialty stores out of business | May 28 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | those specialty stores carry that thing Walmart doesn't have that you need after the specialty store is gone | May 28 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | and nobody working there knows a damned thing about any item they do sell | May 28 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | "I dunno man, they pay me minimum wage to open the box and put it on the shelf....duh" | May 28 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I am serious when "dusting the Zune parking spot" was an assignment I doled out | May 28 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 28 01:23 |
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| wwwuse | hi | May 28 01:23 |
| cubezzz | then mediocrity wins | May 28 01:23 |
| cubezzz | which happens a lot | May 28 01:23 |
| cubezzz | would you buy a computer from Walmart? | May 28 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: They don't have any good players, they have the hundred of dollars tier that don't do what I want | May 28 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | and the cheap no-names that don't do what I want | May 28 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 01:24 |
| cubezzz | you have black box devices | May 28 01:24 |
| cubezzz | that's what you got | May 28 01:24 |
| wwwuse | the walmart computers used a knockoff cyrix processor. that's why I didn't buy | May 28 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose if I was content with disappointment, I'd get the RCA Lyra and at least not have an ultra expensive piece of crap to wash down with forehead slapping | May 28 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | (Zune/iPod) | May 28 01:25 |
| cubezzz | no service manuals, no programming specifications.... | May 28 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 28 01:25 |
| cubezzz | and certainly no device driver source code | May 28 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | wwwuse: Next time I might just get a no name $200 PC that someone slapped together with no point in life but to be cheap and suck hard | May 28 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | that seems to be the hardware Linux is geared for anyway | May 28 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 28 01:26 |
| cubezzz | look at the coreboot list | May 28 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | notice how it's always the dirt cheap no-name crap that works? | May 28 01:26 |
| cubezzz | that's what is probably "good" | May 28 01:26 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, no :) | May 28 01:27 |
| cubezzz | I haven't | May 28 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | You get a expensive brand name PC with a nice CPU and a fast GPU and Linux pisses on your grave while you wait for it to work | May 28 01:27 |
| cubezzz | good = Tyan, Intel (mostly), ASUS, Sharp... | May 28 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | no driver support until the damned thing is on par with the $200 Walmart PC of 3 years later | May 28 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | I exaggerate, I know | May 28 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's mainly the GPU that Linux is giving you grief with now | May 28 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | it seems to be the new Winmodem | May 28 01:28 |
| cubezzz | if money is no object: Getac P470 notebook | May 28 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | on one hand, it's not their fault, on the other hand I don't care whose fault it is if it doesn't work | May 28 01:28 |
| cubezzz | who is using winmodem? | May 28 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I was making a reference | May 28 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | there's always some damned thing, broad category of devices that won't work right on Linux | May 28 01:29 |
| cubezzz | you have this strange mindset that anything over a certain age is bad | May 28 01:29 |
| cubezzz | and that's just not true | May 28 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | by the time the drivers mature and support is universal, it's another device that's not working | May 28 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | I'm ready to waive the white flag, save some money, and make it be a policy that all new computer acquisitions will be from the flea market | May 28 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | and they can't be less than three years old | May 28 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 01:31 |
| cubezzz | OK, an acceptable compromise: Intel D945GCLF with video, sound | May 28 01:31 |
| cubezzz | newish enough | May 28 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | if I bought a computer half as expensive, I could get the same level of performance from the open source drivers out of it | May 28 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | because they suck so bad that they cripple the GPU | May 28 01:32 |
| cubezzz | it takes time for knowledge to filter down | May 28 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's not vesa, but it's not any way to run an expensive piece of machinery | May 28 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | you don't disconnect three spark plug wires from your car then tell someone that whatever else you get beats walking | May 28 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | so I don't take that "It's better than vesa" argument well either | May 28 01:33 |
| cubezzz | radeon driver is decent | May 28 01:33 |
| cubezzz | why don't you try it | May 28 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | I have | May 28 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | the driver itself is near perfect | May 28 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | Gallium3d is really slow and missing many features | May 28 01:34 |
| wwwuse | so let me get this straight | May 28 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | the 3d OpenGL driver is the driver I'm talking about | May 28 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | the good news is that by Fedora 14, my card should work well enough for me to do most of what I do | May 28 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa 7.9 will support OpenGL 2.1 on ATI hardware | May 28 01:35 |
| wwwuse | you want a hardware that performs like a supercomputer at the cost of $200 and you want only free drivers? | May 28 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | there's a lot of stuff out there that fails bad with jsut OpenGL 2.0 that works fine if you have 2.1 | May 28 01:35 |
| wwwuse | may I suggest the Nexus? | May 28 01:35 |
| cubezzz | wwwuse, I'm happy doing my own 3d :) | May 28 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | wwwuse: No, I want a computer that performs like the computer I paid for | May 28 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | or reasonably close | May 28 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | if it was "Gallium3d has all OpenGL 3.2 features and it's 10% slower than the binary blob from ATI" | May 28 01:36 |
| wwwuse | sorry to sound old foggie on you, but do know how much computers used to cost 20 years ago? | May 28 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | I'd use it, no question | May 28 01:36 |
| cubezzz | I know how much the first PET cost :) | May 28 01:37 |
| wwwuse | $3500 would start the conversation | May 28 01:37 |
| cubezzz | 20 years is still modern | May 28 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | wwwuse: They came in a box, you hooked them up to your television, and they were sold at KMart | May 28 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | the Commodore was the only computer of the 80s worth having | May 28 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 01:37 |
| cubezzz | now 30 years, you're getting into old stuff | May 28 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | being 20-ish years ago | May 28 01:38 |
| cubezzz | 40 years, and no PCs at all | May 28 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: In many ways, I liked the Amiga better than anything out there now | May 28 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | Apple had nothing like it | May 28 01:38 |
| wwwuse | My mom paid that for a 486 SX... no math coprocessing.... what video ram? forget about watching a movie on this thing as it lacked an optical drive | May 28 01:38 |
| cubezzz | the problem with old Amiga is no MMU | May 28 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | it was 10 years ahead of the time or more | May 28 01:39 |
| cubezzz | and they were pretty slow out of the box DaemonFC | May 28 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | dedicate video acceleration | May 28 01:39 |
| wwwuse | never mind there was no sound card | May 28 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | dedicated sound chipset | May 28 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | you never saw this on the PC market until the mid-90s | May 28 01:39 |
| cubezzz | oh I have an eduquest sitting right beside me :) | May 28 01:39 |
| cubezzz | it's a clunkosaurus | May 28 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's my car? | May 28 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | strange, it's parked out back | May 28 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 28 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | you didn't steal my clunkasaur did you? | May 28 01:40 |
| wwwuse | and SGI in the 90's was king of 3d rendering | May 28 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | wwwuse: Yes, they invented OpenGL | May 28 01:41 |
| cubezzz | yeah I steal gas guzzling V8's for fun :) | May 28 01:41 |
| wwwuse | it was doing then what Microsoft is just now claiming it is inventing with Natala | May 28 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | the problem was that the OpenGL API was too heavy for consumer-level hardware | May 28 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | until around 2000 | May 28 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | by which time, DirectX had already killed its future on Windows | May 28 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | who buys most of the expensive GPUs? Gamers. Who buys 1-2% that many, people who use CAD. | May 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | Guess which one DirectX was optimized for | May 28 01:42 |
| cubezzz | yeah, the market is game driven/HDTV driven | May 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | of course they're both pretty bloated now | May 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL moved towards games, and DirectX is moving towards CAD | May 28 01:43 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, a lot of people just don't care about 3d stuff | May 28 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | but hardware now is fast and affordable | May 28 01:43 |
| cubezzz | most of my customers for example | May 28 01:43 |
| cubezzz | going out and buying latest and greatest all the time will make you poor | May 28 01:43 |
| cubezzz | and it's not necessary at all | May 28 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | people who buy even the cheapest GPUs on the market now have something that CAD users would have sold their own mother to have in 1998 | May 28 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm talking $29.99 manufacturer you never heard of card | May 28 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 01:44 |
| cubezzz | you realize with open drivers people can port stuff to Amiga? | May 28 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | right, open source drivers are nice when the manufacturers are not shitheads | May 28 01:45 |
| cubezzz | not to mention the PCI cards, maybe not the newest ones but still | May 28 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | or the device doesn't really do much | May 28 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | GPUs are massively complex, and everyone making them (ATI/Nvidia) are shitheads | May 28 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | that's what's slowing down the open source driver scene there | May 28 01:46 |
| cubezzz | can't agree, ATI is at least decent | May 28 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | ok, Nvidia = Total shitheads | May 28 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | ATI = Shitheads in some respects | May 28 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 01:46 |
| cubezzz | if I didn't care about firmware, I would say Panasonic Toughbook = 100% good | May 28 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | that reflects in the maturity of the open drivers | May 28 01:47 |
| cubezzz | but the EC stuff is a secret :-/ | May 28 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Nouveau isn't even close to useful beyond the use cases that were using NV anyway | May 28 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | and ATI open source driver is mostly complete | May 28 01:47 |
| cubezzz | give Nouveau a couple more years | May 28 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | if you're happy with 17% of the blosed source driver's performance and most OpenGL functions rendered in software or not at all... | May 28 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | you were happy with NV | May 28 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | *closed | May 28 01:48 |
| cubezzz | no, I want open video drivers | May 28 01:48 |
| cubezzz | that I can actually read | May 28 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | NV was obfuscated and no commenting, right? | May 28 01:49 |
| cubezzz | not sure | May 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | they're actively seeking to impede open drivers | May 28 01:49 |
| cubezzz | I only have so much time to check stuff like that | May 28 01:49 |
| cubezzz | but yeah, that's what I heard | May 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | ATI goes from OK with it, to even tossing in some documentations | May 28 01:49 |
| cubezzz | ATI was always pretty good actually | May 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | about the only thing Nvidia has done that doesn't suck is that they agreed not to sue Nouveau | May 28 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | they probably could, but it gains them nothing but bad PR | May 28 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | so they don't want to touch it | May 28 01:50 |
| cubezzz | in Soviet Russia, Nouveau sues Nvidia :) | May 28 01:50 |
| cubezzz | anyways, you want source, you got source | May 28 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | ideally they'd have a case to sue based on the fact that many people are being denied useful access to hardware they bought | May 28 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | but who said anything about "fair"? :) | May 28 01:51 |
| cubezzz | the old NV driver didn't do 3d I don't think | May 28 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | no, just accelerated 2d | May 28 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | and even at that, many times slower than the binary driver | May 28 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | 5 times slower I believe was the number | May 28 01:52 |
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| DaemonFC | so it was obvious that they were deliberately crippling their own driver | May 28 01:53 |
| cubezzz | I have all open drivers, except for the Nvidia driver on this box | May 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | just to make sure it wasn't useful to an open source project | May 28 01:53 |
| cubezzz | but I'm collecting all the hardware necessary to build my 100% coreboot masterpiece | May 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | Nouveau does have that practical advantage | May 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | the 2s support is fast | May 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | *2d | May 28 01:53 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm almost counting on ATI to throw support for RadeonHDs older than the 4000 series overboard | May 28 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | any month now | May 28 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | then my card is next (4000 series) | May 28 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | whenever they judge that the open source stack is "good enough" | May 28 01:55 |
| cubezzz | after I build my 100% foss-box I'll start thinking about building a faster one | May 28 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | but that may differ from a user's definition | May 28 01:55 |
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| DaemonFC | Apple is a bubble | May 28 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | but people treat it as if it's worth that much for real | May 28 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | it can down 10% over a day if Steve Jobs farts wrong | May 28 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's just a catastrophe waiting to happen | May 28 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | that's why Microsoft stock doesn't fluctuate, nobody cares what happens to Ballmer | May 28 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | and anyone else could run them as badly as he does | May 28 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I could run Ubuntu and xorg-edgers | May 28 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | get the OpenGL 2.1 support that way :P | May 28 02:16 |
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| wwwuse | I have a chart for you daeomonfc | May 28 02:17 |
| wwwuse | ballmer's effect on ms stock | May 28 02:18 |
| wwwuse | http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/27/technology/20100527-apple.html < chart there | May 28 02:18 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Off front page: Worst-ever & worsening oil spill. On front page: Gary Coleman ill. #Toronto Star #ftw | May 28 02:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@alykhansatchu #Russia & #China are likely able to trade their positions on #Iran for considerable returns. #FreeMarket good for something! | May 28 02:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ergeekgoddess RT @theonlinemom its hard to keep up with their #privacy changes #Facebook // it's designed to be hard: http://bit.ly/aYSFX3 | May 28 02:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Guy at MS tasked with 'killing #IE6'. Fine, go do that, & we'll get on with killing IE7 thru 9! http://bit.ly/aYSFX3 #microsoft #justgoaway | May 28 02:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jgrindal Wow, just got a scathing call from mgmt, requesting I tone down my twitter info.. //you sound surprised. I am not. #bpleak #oil | May 28 02:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New blog post: Patents – Why They Exist, And Why They Possibly Shouldn’t Exist - Part Two http://bit.ly/atYXf1 | May 28 03:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Shoq .@NotRappaport siphoning ideas are nuts. We're talking about 1000s sq miles of ocean //many cubic miles. stuff underwater, 'member? | May 28 05:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ishtarmuz #Murdoch Confesses 2 #Iraq Propaganda http://tinyurl.com/ydje9r7 #fox #war #crime //was obvious, but WOW, a confession at last | May 28 05:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@iCanOnlyBeBree Ew elephant took dump in river they get their water from //There are far worse things in #water system than vegetarian poo. | May 28 05:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ishtarmuz #Murdoch outfit allegedly used to publish forged nuke doc http://tinyurl.com/yeaatag #fox //who else? it's what he's THERE FOR | May 28 05:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Kellbo0 RT @OakFoSho RT @parsifal @OakFoSho stick a steak knife in your dick hole. #p21 // looks like typical #rwnj violent threat. nice. | May 28 05:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@iCanOnlyBeBree Would you rather drink semen or shit??? //semen's the worst you can think of? Try poisons, pesticides, industrial waste,etc | May 28 05:39 | |
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| cubezzz | ok, I think my calculations show that my computer uses 95 watts typically | May 28 06:06 |
| *amarsh04 giggles that a company has tried to send him an ms-outlook "recall" message | May 28 06:28 | |
| schestowitz | Mac Asay: "Microsoft is a strong company that makes great technology. But its branding is somewhat stale. " | May 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-20006036-16.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=TheOpenRoad | May 28 06:44 |
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| schestowitz | Why is he so cocky? | May 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz | He also repeated the Microsoft FUD: | May 28 06:45 |
| schestowitz | "Google is going to have to figure out how to manage Android fragmentation, how to merge its maturing Android vision with a still confused message on ChromeOS, and more." | May 28 06:45 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-20005790-16.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=TheOpenRoad | May 28 06:45 |
| schestowitz | Hahaha | May 28 06:45 |
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| schestowitz | You can say from his statements he hasn't been keeping up with the news | May 28 06:45 |
| schestowitz | Too busy as COO of Canonical | May 28 06:46 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's Bong [sic] loses, he claims it gained | May 28 06:46 |
| schestowitz | Blankenhorn is also talking trash this week... http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/dell-streak-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for/6565 | May 28 06:49 |
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| schestowitz | He reads one article, then links to it, and makes false assertions. Typical ZDnet | May 28 06:49 |
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| cubezzz | the atom is pretty good for low power CPU | May 28 06:55 |
| cubezzz | way lower than intel p3 for example | May 28 06:56 |
| schestowitz | http://timothyblee.com/2010/05/22/rand-paul-a-man-of-principle/ | May 28 07:00 |
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| schestowitz | Who's this guy anyway? | May 28 07:00 |
| scientes | FUD | May 28 07:01 |
| scientes | although i have no like for Google's action | May 28 07:01 |
| scientes | cause they do alot of things very microsoft-esque | May 28 07:01 |
| scientes | its like Apple vs. Adobe, its all a distraction | May 28 07:02 |
| scientes | they would love for that to be the real war | May 28 07:02 |
| scientes | but that is hardly the case | May 28 07:02 |
| scientes | its just a charade put on by the media | May 28 07:02 |
| scientes | and the the agenda-setting media: nytimes of tech: arstechnica holds the guiest post by the FSF on the issue | May 28 07:03 |
| scientes | so that arstechnica is suddenly the "liberal" news source | May 28 07:03 |
| scientes | but they are still only covering a bunch of propritary matters, and only discussing within their own framework | May 28 07:04 |
| scientes | anyways, schestowitz, what sources would be good for a general approachable by non-technical's write up on free software | May 28 07:05 |
| schestowitz | Which one? | May 28 07:06 |
| schestowitz | And yes, the press names big brands | May 28 07:06 |
| schestowitz | Audience won't read unless the headline is about some big company that arouses feelings of love or hate | May 28 07:07 |
| schestowitz | http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-05-24/via-says-100-android-powered-tablets-will-challenge-the-ipad-this-year.html | May 28 07:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2010/05/27/palms-matias-duarte-googles-user-experience-director/ | May 28 07:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2011938870_kindle24.html | May 28 07:22 |
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| schestowitz | BP PR: http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html | May 28 07:38 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @greve Catastrophe TV, courtesy of BP: http://ur1.ca/03jy1 >> more PR, they make it look less than it is | May 28 07:39 | |
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| schestowitz | "2) YouTube is almost showing a profit for Google, its owner. Think about the glorious inefficiency embodied in that latter statement: two billion downloads per day just to break even. And this is supposed to be the future of television?" | May 28 07:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cringely.com/2010/05/tv-after-youtube/ | May 28 07:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://eu.techcrunch.com/2010/05/25/30m-funding-up-for-grabs-for-tech-projects-by-uk-digital-entrepreneurs/ | May 28 07:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] You can submit information about me on my wikipedia page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Narendra_Sisodiya #narendra #sisodiya | May 28 08:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] How antivaxxers and climate change denialists consider themselves different to creationists. http://is.gd/csHQ6 | May 28 08:43 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.thinq.co.uk/news/2010/5/27/blizzard-boss-says-drm-is-a-waste-of-time/ At long last come of them are starting to get it. | May 28 09:36 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] In a perfect world, we would have no software patents, everyone would be capable of using the best technology available http://ur1.ca/040cb | May 28 10:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Stallman interview: Reddit runs on Amazon servers, Reddit makes business with these patent trolls http://ur1.ca/040gj | May 28 10:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Peter Gerwinski on software patents at SIGINT09 (23 May 2010) [1/9] http://ur1.ca/040gt | May 28 10:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Peter Gerwinski on software patents at SIGINT09 (23 May 2010) [2/9] http://ur1.ca/040gu | May 28 10:52 | |
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| lyle | bah, waiting for my manager to open shop | May 28 11:07 |
| lyle | he's late | May 28 11:07 |
| lyle | nothing beats being to work at 6am only to find out your manager hasn't arrived yet | May 28 11:08 |
| lyle | schestowitz: did you see about MeeGo? | May 28 11:08 |
| lyle | it's contaminated by MONO :( | May 28 11:08 |
| oiaohm | How lyle | May 28 11:09 |
| lyle | it comes with banshee by default | May 28 11:09 |
| lyle | and comes with mono compiler | May 28 11:09 |
| lyle | but no gcc | May 28 11:09 |
| oiaohm | meego 1.0 has gcc in it. | May 28 11:10 |
| lyle | my copy doesn't | May 28 11:10 |
| lyle | I'm using LiveCD | May 28 11:10 |
| lyle | is that what you are using? | May 28 11:10 |
| lyle | meego-netbook-ia32-1.0.0.20100524.1.img | May 28 11:11 |
| lyle | there's no gcc | May 28 11:12 |
| oiaohm | That is a 800 meg image ? | May 28 11:13 |
| lyle | yea | May 28 11:13 |
| lyle | is there a different one with gcc? | May 28 11:13 |
| oiaohm | I have development straith out git | May 28 11:14 |
| lyle | I'm sure I can install it after the fact, but the LiveCD doesn't have it | May 28 11:14 |
| oiaohm | What gets me is straight out git does not have mono. | May 28 11:15 |
| lyle | weird | May 28 11:15 |
| oiaohm | At all | May 28 11:15 |
| lyle | seriously, try the LiveCD - you will see MONO | May 28 11:16 |
| lyle | what media player does meego have in git? | May 28 11:16 |
| lyle | rhythmbox? | May 28 11:16 |
| lyle | I think I see my boss | May 28 11:17 |
| lyle | finally | May 28 11:17 |
| lyle | yep, that's him | May 28 11:17 |
| lyle | what media player does your mego git have oiaohm? | May 28 11:18 |
| oiaohm | QT based one. | May 28 11:18 |
| lyle | I wonder what player got pushed aside | May 28 11:18 |
| oiaohm | As I say wiered. | May 28 11:18 |
| lyle | did MONO boosters hijack the project at the last minute and force their MONO into meego? | May 28 11:20 |
| lyle | maybe that explains it | May 28 11:20 |
| MinceR | are the image and the git repo from the same site? | May 28 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes | May 28 11:21 |
| lyle | I got it from meego.com | May 28 11:21 |
| oiaohm | And he is right. | May 28 11:21 |
| oiaohm | Question now is why. | May 28 11:21 |
| lyle | btw, just saw this: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/May-27.html | May 28 11:22 |
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| lyle | this is worrying | May 28 11:22 |
| oiaohm | Wound not been pulled in by evolution would it not. | May 28 11:22 |
| lyle | banshee is MONO too | May 28 11:22 |
| lyle | btw gotta go, shop opened up - gotta get to work | May 28 11:23 |
| lyle | would love to find out wtf happened tho | May 28 11:23 |
| lyle | good luck guys | May 28 11:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Not an Open Source Company, It’s a Software Patents Company With Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/040wz #swpats | May 28 11:48 | |
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| oiaohm | Posted question to meego developers over mono. schestowitz | May 28 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Hey | May 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm working on a post about it | May 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Remember Moblin | May 28 12:14 |
| oiaohm | banshee included as a sample app cased the include. | May 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz | OpenSUSE+mono has their grubby hands on it. | May 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Banchee is a big patent trap | May 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz | More so then others | May 28 12:15 |
| oiaohm | Mono might magically disappear. | May 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz | It contains libs that Microsoft /EXPLICITLY/ excluded | May 28 12:15 |
| oiaohm | Or there might be an agreement with Intel that covers mono. | May 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz | So we already know that Microsoft uses Banshee as a Trojan | May 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, that's what I reckoned | May 28 12:16 |
| oiaohm | I want to find out what is there. | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Intel must be x-licensing w/ Microsoft already | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Same with H-P | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | But... | May 28 12:16 |
| oiaohm | Depends on how its licenced. | May 28 12:16 |
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| schestowitz | Nokia's Ari said Nokia would defend against Microsoft swpats attack | May 28 12:16 |
| oiaohm | Novell one suxs for downstream. | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | So I'm mildly baffled | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Mixed msgs | May 28 12:16 |
| oiaohm | If Intel one is good for downstream. | May 28 12:17 |
| oiaohm | We might have a mono solution that makes everyone bar Novell happy. | May 28 12:17 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how? | May 28 12:19 |
| oiaohm | If intel has a downstream protection agreement it can be exploited. | May 28 12:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Two Questions: Will Steve Ballmer Leave and Did He Make Bach/Allard Leave? http://ur1.ca/04164 #microsoft | May 28 12:22 | |
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| oiaohm | Its like the old SCO case and companies having and AT&T agreement. MinceR | May 28 12:25 |
| oiaohm | Ie everyone with AT&T agreements told SCO to go screw themselves. | May 28 12:30 |
| MinceR | ic | May 28 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Once you have a covering agreement the attack is dead in the water. | May 28 12:31 |
| oiaohm | The power of open source we can restruct to take advantage of any covering agreement that spreeds down stream. | May 28 12:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MeeGo is Hijacked by the #Mono Team http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/meego-dot-net/ #novell | May 28 12:33 | |
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| schestowitz | "Reddit runs on Amazon servers. When I asked how a site so deeply rooted in nerd and free software culture could do business with these patent trolls, I was essentially told: It was convenient and we didn't care. Do you have a message for the reddit staff?" | May 28 12:54 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/five-tips-for-desktop-malware-first-responders/35157 Suggesting using Linux again. | May 28 12:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Amazon is also being patent-trolled by Microsoft for using Linux." http://www.reddit.com/r/gnu/comments/c8rrk/rms_ama/c0qwd7o | May 28 12:55 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: nice catch | May 28 12:55 |
| schestowitz | Should we make a new wiki page with introduction to people who escape SLES? | May 28 13:04 |
| schestowitz | For customers who are uncertain? | May 28 13:04 |
| schestowitz | I reckon Red Hat has some papers on it | May 28 13:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell for Sale: Impact on #OpenSUSE , #Mono , and #SCO http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/novell-acting-as-a-lap-dog/ | May 28 13:04 | |
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| schestowitz | But we might need something of a factsheet | May 28 13:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Eye on Apple: Monopolisation and #GPL Violation http://ur1.ca/041di Some Apple news, the picture I made is too lame | May 28 13:05 | |
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| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/05/kde-45-beta-brings-window-tiling-new-notifications.ars | May 28 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Nice | May 28 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://blog.nixternal.com/2010.05.27/impressions-of-the-latest-meego-release/ | May 28 13:14 |
| schestowitz | kubuntu deb | May 28 13:14 |
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| schestowitz | *dev | May 28 13:14 |
| oiaohm | Main interface of meego is still pure QT | May 28 13:16 |
| oiaohm | So mono is application level only. | May 28 13:17 |
| oiaohm | Now of course I don't think mono should be application level. | May 28 13:17 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah | May 28 13:28 |
| schestowitz | I don't think MeeGo will succeed though | May 28 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Android+ARM do better | May 28 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Intel's and Nokia's project is a response to both (h/w and s/w side) | May 28 13:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ha! @SJVN said something negative about Linux and surprise, surprise. The ECT folks bite. http://ur1.ca/041ju Rinse, repeat | May 28 13:29 | |
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| oiaohm | Too soon to call schestowitz | May 28 13:30 |
| oiaohm | First form android suxed. schestowitz | May 28 13:30 |
| oiaohm | Meego is way ahead of first form android | May 28 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Ask programmers who target Windows what Microsoft did for/to them | May 28 13:30 |
| MinceR | android still needs to become more open. | May 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | May 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Android is now open | May 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | They have a front group so to speak | May 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | "Open Handset Alliance" | May 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Open Hand Tossers | May 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | It's just Google | May 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | And people start to talk out about this illusion of a group effort | May 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Like LiMo | May 28 13:32 |
| oiaohm | Native code support on Android opens up Qt and the like on it. | May 28 13:32 |
| schestowitz | http://ubuntulandforever.blogspot.com/2010/05/view3ds-simple-viewer-for-3d-studio.html | May 28 13:32 |
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| schestowitz | I'm starting to year kde 3 GUI | May 28 13:32 |
| schestowitz | I already have Keramik in kde | May 28 13:33 |
| schestowitz | *kde4 | May 28 13:33 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: are there any apps that demonstrate that? i have my doubts about it. | May 28 13:33 |
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| MinceR | native code support is aimed at embedding native code in java apps, not at supporting fully native apps or calling the android APIs from native code, afaik | May 28 13:34 |
| MinceR | the D-Bus-based scripting API might help a bit, but it's ugly and probably weak | May 28 13:34 |
| schestowitz | oooh.. nice... I can center the title alignment... | May 28 13:35 |
| MinceR | what i miss of kde3 is the reliability | May 28 13:35 |
| *schestowitz messes up with GUI options | May 28 13:35 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: kde is more stable for me | May 28 13:35 |
| schestowitz | I haven't booted since I installed this OS | May 28 13:35 |
| schestowitz | I don't think I'll need to reboot until powerdown | May 28 13:35 |
| MinceR | i'm not talking about reboots | May 28 13:35 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about restarting plasma-desktop and casting spells on it to make it behave | May 28 13:35 |
| oiaohm | Each of the KDE 4 release is getting more stable. | May 28 13:36 |
| MinceR | and about having to refresh dolphin to make it show the folders it keeps forgetting to show the first time | May 28 13:36 |
| oiaohm | Major interface changes bring a time of unstable. | May 28 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Button size=small | May 28 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Wow. So much customisability I missed... | May 28 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Radial gradient in bg seems like 4.4 feature | May 28 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Wow | May 28 13:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: try "outline active window title" | May 28 13:38 |
| schestowitz | Looks like Chrome GUI | May 28 13:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The theme options in KDE 4.4 are amazing. It's a shame I haven't bothered changing them until now. | May 28 13:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20006129-264.html | May 28 13:43 |
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| MinceR | time to call it KHTML once again | May 28 13:47 |
| schestowitz | Quoting Microsoft LIES and then BRAGGING about them: http://www.ideosun.com/index.php/2010/05/27/the-quiet-ubuntu-netbook-revolution/ | May 28 13:47 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: Apple should also trademark "KKK" | May 28 13:48 |
| schestowitz | In case it turns more evil ;-) | May 28 13:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/24/us/24moratorium.html?hp | May 28 13:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.ainfos.ca/en/ainfos23996.html | May 28 13:49 |
| schestowitz | ""32 people were arrested during riots following the police murder of a 36-year-old Nigerian man, Max, in Warsaw on Saturday. 25 of these people are being charged with assaulting a police officer. " | May 28 13:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/26/ethiopia-election-result-meles-zenawi | May 28 13:51 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RMS: "BP will be fined in proportion to the amount of oil spilled. No wonder BP is trying to prevent independent estimation of the amount." | May 28 13:53 | |
| bentkus | schestowitz: you might like this one http://goo.gl/rq9y | May 28 13:54 |
| Techrights | Title: Children as young as 4 'to be fingerprinted to borrow school books' - Telegraph .::. Size~: 56.8 KB | May 28 13:54 |
| bentkus | (developed by microsoft) | May 28 13:55 |
| schestowitz | bentkus: added | May 28 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Yes, Microsoft does ID projects in India too | May 28 13:57 |
| schestowitz | The totalitarian's best friend | May 28 13:57 |
| bentkus | ^^ | May 28 13:57 |
| bentkus | sometimes i wonder if apple and microsoft has pr management at all | May 28 13:57 |
| oiaohm | They do. bentkus | May 28 13:58 |
| oiaohm | Recent years its working less and less. | May 28 13:58 |
| oiaohm | In the 1990~ it worked extreamly well. | May 28 13:58 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/gaining-private-access/ | May 28 13:59 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft to Spy on Indians, Bank Accounts, Health Records (and Conduct Profiling of Customers) | Techrights .::. Size~: 118.79 KB | May 28 13:59 |
| bentkus | oiaohm: the problem is they are getting away with everything | May 28 14:01 |
| oiaohm | did you hear about anything in the 1990~ of what they were upto bentkus | May 28 14:02 |
| oiaohm | These days the stuff leaks. | May 28 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/27/twitter-director-of-search-out/ | May 28 14:05 |
| Techrights | Title: Exclusive: Twitters Director Of Search Is Out As Product Is Restructured .::. Size~: 53.36 KB | May 28 14:05 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, now we have blogs | May 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Some companies think they can spike stories by contacting editors | May 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz | It worked in the past | May 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz | You can count all the papers and editors | May 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Now you have wikileaks, bloggers, blog comments, forums, oggcasts, etc | May 28 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Also more main stream news is picking up what they are upto as well. | May 28 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/05/27/limits-to-growth/ | May 28 14:07 |
| Techrights | Title: Limits to Growth at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 26.98 KB | May 28 14:07 |
| oiaohm | Ok not as much as what we like but MS PR is kinda starting to fail. | May 28 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/04/25/microsoft-censorship-on-the-surface/ | May 28 14:08 |
| Techrights | Title: Negative Review of MS Surface Published, Microsoft Contacts Blogger and Has It Removed | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.61 KB | May 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz | http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/05/27/merry-christmas-m/ | May 28 14:09 |
| Techrights | Title: Merry Christmas, M$ at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 24.44 KB | May 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz | " | May 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz | TFA does not give much technical information but this is the kind of product that Acer has been selling to banks, ISPs, cellular networks and so on as bonus or inducements for customers. | May 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz | * 2007 - netbooks | May 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz | * 2008 - smartphones | May 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz | * 2009 - recession | May 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz | * 2010 - tablets + ARM | May 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz | " | May 28 14:09 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] I hate the fact that I was so immersed into my work that I missed "Towel Day" on the 25th! | May 28 14:12 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-05-26-011-35-RV-RH-RL-0000 | May 28 14:15 |
| schestowitz | " | May 28 14:15 |
| Techrights | Title: Linux Today - Fedora 13 – Linux for Applephobes; Polish without the Ubuntu .::. Size~: 77.7 KB | May 28 14:15 |
| schestowitz | > He's told me in the past that Fedora is intended "first and foremost for users interested in and capable of contributing to open source." | May 28 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Now that is some truly awesome spin. | May 28 14:15 |
| schestowitz | " | May 28 14:15 |
| Ziodotmatrix | schestowitz: And Red Hat is only for enterprise users. I guess that means most folks should stay away from Vista 7 Pro and Ultimate. | May 28 14:16 |
| schestowitz | It's customised especiailly for business | May 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz | They like.... disable some artificial limitations and stuff | May 28 14:20 |
| schestowitz | http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ | May 28 14:24 |
| Techrights | Title: Fedora Documentation .::. Size~: 1.73 KB | May 28 14:24 |
| Ziodotmatrix | schestowitz: not really disable, more outright remove and try their best to make sure you can't install it since it uses the MS. Updater that always checks for the corresponding handler. | May 28 14:25 |
| Ziodotmatrix | thanks for a nice morning read. | May 28 14:37 |
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| Froombed | My 2 cents re: IDC/BSA .. i worked with IDC for many years ,.. and what they say about GUT FEEL is jujst that ... guess work .. | May 28 14:49 |
| Froombed | kids jacking out spreadsheets with *imaginative* numbers ... | May 28 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | > "Windows NT and its successors are designed for security (including on a network) and multi-user PCs, but were not initially designed with Internet security in mind as much, since, when it was first developed in the early 1990s, Internet use was less prevalent.[24]" | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows#Security | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 15:02 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Windows - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 210.49 KB | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > See these retrospective weasel words and compare them to what was actually said at the time. | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > "The IETF has organized a 17 member board to provide guidance in this area to which I was appointed", Jallard | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > "The hottest content server on the Internet? Microsoft Marvel. It’s already integrated with all of these services and has a huge content base and commercial vendor support. Perhaps most importantly, Marvel solves the difficult electronic commerce problem well ahead of the Internet: the ability to securely purchase goods in a networked environment" | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > "The Internet infostructure can deliver an enormous blow to our Systems competitors, provided that we are successful in getting this influential and growing community to first accept Windows. By embracing current technologies available on the Internet, we position Windows as the choice system for interactive Internet services and prepare for the shift to the native IAYF technologies offered by Cairo and other Microsoft products. | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | At the same time, we enhance our customer service, expand the Marvel user base, increase our research potential and reduce our support costs by leveraging the infostructure ourselves." | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 15:03 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.microsoft.com/about/companyinformation/timeline/timeline/docs/di_killerapp_InternetMemo.rtf | May 28 15:03 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting application/rtf type .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 28 15:03 |
| schestowitz | The URL works again! | May 28 15:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Just received: "My 2 cents re: IDC/BSA. I worked with IDC for many years ,.. and what they say about GUT FEEL is just that ... guess work.." | May 28 15:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I liked your "Linux (still) sucks" presentation. can you give me link to video | May 28 15:04 | |
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| schestowitz | http://linuxcrunch.com/content/sneak-preview-coming-kde-sc-45 | May 28 15:13 |
| Techrights | Title: Sneak preview for coming KDE SC 4.5 | We love Linux ! .::. Size~: 85.66 KB | May 28 15:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Thinking for some sort of Embedded Linux cum Open source Hardware workshop kind at Delhi. Do we have speakers in Delhi ? | May 28 15:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] google is a best catalyst in open source reactions ;) #google | May 28 15:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya also in fog computing | May 28 15:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Stolen bosses Dyson "fan" thingy. Ahhh, cool air. | May 28 15:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Do not buy Kingston USB drive for Live USB purpose. Always a bad experience. Use Transcend USB drives. | May 28 15:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-beat-procrastination-2010-5 looks interesting. Will read that tomorrow. | May 28 15:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Early reports suggest Novell is looking to sell after poor results | May 28 15:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good morning, all! How is your life on the Internet today? | May 28 16:03 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] "The oil would heat the water faster and accelerate formation of hurricanes" http://ur1.ca/042dp | May 28 16:07 | |
| Techrights | Title: Hurricane plus oil equals more problems - CNN.com .::. Size~: 52.73 KB | May 28 16:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] FI am announcing one of the #ubuntu World Play Day winners live at 11am Pac/2pm Eas/1800 UTC - more details at http://akgraner.com/?p=538 | May 28 16:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: akgraner » Blog Archive » Jono Bacon to announce UW World Play Day Competition Results on May 28, 2010 .::. Size~: 15.97 KB | May 28 16:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Today we have a new Shot Of Jaq - Free The 3G - http://is.gd/ct9uc - is the free desktop ready for mobile Internet? #shotofjaq | May 28 16:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] And now...onto a call with a member of my team. :-) | May 28 16:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @fcassia what I´d like to see: RHAT (market cap 5.5B) buying NOVL (market cap 2.2 billion) | May 28 16:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] .@deathboyuk http://enwp.org/Cochlear_implant was taken over by gibbering anti-implant activists; some effort at cleanup is in progress | May 28 16:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Writing up my Ubuntu 10.10 team strategy into a blog post... | May 28 16:57 | |
| schestowitz | It's so quite today :-) | May 28 16:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] There is never a time when Airbourne are not absolutely appropriate as the soundtrack of my life. | May 28 16:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Curious what my team at Canonical is working on in this cycle? See our plans: http://is.gd/cteqR #ubuntu | May 28 17:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Companies arguably see what's coming and they stop buying Novell, leaving the company at Microsoft's mercy http://ur1.ca/042se | May 28 17:31 | |
| Techrights | Title: Novells Results Not Enough to Prevent Takeover | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.17 KB | May 28 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/112294 "re: gnu image- i'm sure you were in a hurry, you could have probably fixed it up nicely either using a 1 or 2 pt gauss blur on the silhouette layer, or select by color and stroke selection with 1 or 2 pt brush, then play with "curves" on the apple layer" | May 28 17:34 |
| Techrights | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Friday, 28-May-10 16:29:56 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 7.67 KB | May 28 17:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How to Kill a Software Company (Picture) http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/killing-ones-software-company/ | May 28 17:35 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I'll just make a nicer stack of Apple-themed images in the future (remember Apple is still suing Linux) | May 28 17:35 |
| schestowitz | I can't find unencumbered graphics | May 28 17:36 |
| schestowitz | I went to Wikipedia | May 28 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Everything Apple is non-Free | May 28 17:36 |
| MinceR | :) | May 28 17:36 |
| schestowitz | EVERYTHING | May 28 17:36 |
| schestowitz | It's like censorship with copyright law | May 28 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Find me a pub-domain/GDL image of cult leader J0bs | May 28 17:36 |
| schestowitz | I couldn't | May 28 17:36 |
| schestowitz | So I'm left to CC/fair use | May 28 17:37 |
| MinceR | what's the problem with CC? | May 28 17:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] After 25 yrs, I finally listen to The Top by the Cure ... it's mediocre. Neither awful nor great. So much for that. | May 28 17:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @apiphile http://nyti.ms/b7zkRq A good straightforwards answer to "what about the children". #transgender | May 28 17:55 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Me and my roomie having 2 bottles of chilled pepsi and watching the movie 500 days of summer, and cheering it for bad old GF's :P | May 28 17:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Brings George Orwell’s 1984 to Great Britain in 2010 http://ur1.ca/0434f fingerprinting of toddlers now... | May 28 18:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] We need your help to test Application Indicator Menu Support! All the details at http://is.gd/ctj5t #ubuntu #gnome #kde #gtk #qt | May 28 18:39 | |
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| schestowitz | Now we have a better version: " http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6372/gnuh.png getting there anyway. maybe importing the apple into inkscape would be better" | May 28 18:40 |
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| schestowitz | I made a new one: http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/webkit-trademark/ | May 28 18:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Apple Grabbed #KHTML , Overrode It, Then Trademarked the Work http://ur1.ca/0439d #kde #webkit #gnu #linux | May 28 18:42 | |
| Techrights | Title: How Apple Grabbed KHTML, Overrode It, Then Trademarked the Work | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.18 KB | May 28 18:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @virgiliocorrado: @jonobacon hello sir Dog dancing merengue http://bit.ly/a1pEAr -- don't see cats doing this...noooo... :-) | May 28 18:44 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/ozK9b | May 28 18:47 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In ten mins I stream live the winners of the Ubuntu World Play Day at http://is.gd/ctjOT - join us there! :-) | May 28 18:51 | |
| Techrights | Title: At Home With Jono Bacon on USTREAM: Ramblings on community, Linux and technology from Jono Bacon.. Computers .::. Size~: 85.25 KB | May 28 18:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] openSUSE number 4 on Distrowatch stats? oh dear. Its nice to see Arch creeping up there, a great distro, as is Wolvix. | May 28 18:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Another great Ubuntu based distro = Peppermint OS with Openbox as it's DE...Great stuff, worth checking out. | May 28 18:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Live on ustream - http://is.gd/ctjOT #ubuntu | May 28 19:05 | |
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| cubezzz | anyone know of a linux compatible eprom programmer? | May 28 19:16 |
| _goblin | pass...if I may ask...what are you intending? | May 28 19:17 |
| cubezzz | well I want 100% FOSS computer so... | May 28 19:18 |
| cubezzz | that means I need to be able to flash eprom externally | May 28 19:18 |
| cubezzz | some bioses are cryptographically signed and can't be flashed locally | May 28 19:19 |
| cubezzz | and all the eprom programmers appear to be windows based | May 28 19:19 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] So we have a confirmation from an "IT expert" informing someone that you are recording what they say is a "threat". | May 28 19:21 | |
| cubezzz | example: Intel D945GCLF | May 28 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | news is full of that "Don't Ask Don't Tell" crap | May 28 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | filler story | May 28 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | like there's nothing more pressing going on right now | May 28 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with Bill Hicks | May 28 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | anyone stupid enough to want to join the military should be allowed in | May 28 19:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] So threats aside, lets move forward and ask the question (soon for an article) Peppermint or #!CBL ? | May 28 19:23 | |
| DaemonFC | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704596504575272430790508048.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird | May 28 19:24 |
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| DaemonFC | "The bill now heads to the Senate, which will begin work on it when it returns from a Memorial Day recess June 7. That won't be soon enough to avert the June 2 expiration of the jobless benefits." | May 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | That seems to happen every time they want to dump millions of people off unemployment but make it still look like they're extending it | May 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 19:24 |
| _goblin | "anyone stupid enough to want to join the military should be allowed in" | May 28 19:25 |
| _goblin | ? | May 28 19:25 |
| _goblin | really? | May 28 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | sure | May 28 19:25 |
| _goblin | I presume though you are only referring to the US Military? | May 28 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | any military | May 28 19:26 |
| _goblin | ah.... | May 28 19:26 |
| _goblin | is it stupid or merely different beliefs to yourself? | May 28 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's not something that typically rewards you | May 28 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | therefore it's stupid | May 28 19:26 |
| _goblin | thats most jobs though...... | May 28 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | you make a mediocre salary and can be ordered to your death any minute | May 28 19:26 |
| _goblin | I personally think drainage guys should be very well compensated.... | May 28 19:27 |
| _goblin | but they are not. | May 28 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | just go into middle management at Walmart | May 28 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | you get mediocre pay and no ordering to your death at any minute part :P | May 28 19:27 |
| _goblin | so can a security guard or a police officer. | May 28 19:27 |
| _goblin | and you are not being ordered to your death, if deaths comes its as a result of another not an intentional order to die. | May 28 19:28 |
| _goblin | even on trench runs during WW1+2, it was not an order to die. | May 28 19:29 |
| _goblin | it was an order to take a position. | May 28 19:29 |
| _goblin | of which death was a risk. | May 28 19:29 |
| _goblin | or a possibility | May 28 19:29 |
| _goblin | and sometimes in theatre, death may come as a result of another even when no order has been given (sniper) | May 28 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/05/rumor-new-100-apple-tv-takes-aim-at-the-cloud/ | May 28 19:30 |
| Techrights | Title: Rumor: New $100 Apple TV Takes Aim at the Cloud | Gadget Lab | Wired.com .::. Size~: 66.2 KB | May 28 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | I thought the onyl Apple gadget that cost $100 was the power adapter for an ipod | May 28 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 28 19:31 |
| _goblin | talking of cost....natal is apparently priced at $150 | May 28 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, which is the entire price of a Wii pretty much | May 28 19:31 |
| _goblin | which makes me wonder how many will invest when the hardware running it is now getting quite old... | May 28 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | and that's just the add-on bits for the console with the 360 | May 28 19:31 |
| _goblin | and its not as if 360 is future proofed as MS never backed bluray | May 28 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | add-ons launched late in a product lifecycle don't typically sell well | May 28 19:32 |
| _goblin | at least with a PS3 you've got a complete entertainment package | May 28 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Sega 32X anyone? | May 28 19:32 |
| _goblin | lol | May 28 19:32 |
| _goblin | I remember that! | May 28 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Natal is the Sega 32X for the XBOX 360 | May 28 19:32 |
| _goblin | I wonder how much MS has spent developing it? | May 28 19:33 |
| _goblin | (Natal) | May 28 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | you remember that 32X and CD were not integrated | May 28 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | so the games that needed the most space were stuck on cartridges :) | May 28 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | you had 32-bit games on cartridge, or 16-bit games on CD | May 28 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | but never 32-bit games on CD | May 28 19:34 |
| _goblin | still I'd like to buy a 32x now for my retro collection of machines. | May 28 19:34 |
| _goblin | bought a jaguar recently..... | May 28 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | there were only about a dozen games for the 32X | May 28 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | and none of them were that great | May 28 19:34 |
| _goblin | even less for the jaguar.....i think. | May 28 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | the only one worth mentioning was DOOM | May 28 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | and the DOS version of DOOM is better | May 28 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 28 19:34 |
| cubezzz | AROS Doom! | May 28 19:35 |
| cubezzz | ftw | May 28 19:35 |
| _goblin | yeah! | May 28 19:36 |
| cubezzz | at least use a real OS DaemonFC | May 28 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZaCXs_MT6o | May 28 19:37 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Talking about retro computing over at #Boycottnovell on freenode.net. Anyone still got a Sega 32x or Atari Jaguar? | May 28 19:37 | |
| DaemonFC | This kind of works in Wine | May 28 19:37 |
| _goblin | I was playing Wolf3d with Dosbox the other day..... | May 28 19:37 |
| _goblin | very good. | May 28 19:38 |
| cubezzz | it's open source now isn't it? | May 28 19:38 |
| cubezzz | re: Wolfenstein? | May 28 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | the engine | May 28 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | the content isn't | May 28 19:39 |
| _goblin | yeah, like he said. | May 28 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20006259-266.html | May 28 19:39 |
| _goblin | now that for me was a computing life changing moment....my first ever 1st person texture mapped game...... I was blown away. | May 28 19:39 |
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| DaemonFC | side with the devil you know doesn't wear Prada | May 28 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 28 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | what really kills me is that they make designer underwear for hundreds of dollars a pair | May 28 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2635_fail&num=1 | May 28 19:43 |
| Techrights | Title: [Phoronix] The Huge Disaster Within The Linux 2.6.35 Kernel .::. Size~: 19.79 KB | May 28 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | looks like 2.6.35 should be avoided | May 28 19:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Parabens! 2^5? ♺ @zach: Happy birthday @rejon! | May 28 19:45 | |
| MinceR | if you can trust IDG on that | May 28 19:46 |
| cubezzz | well, definitely check before you upgrade | May 28 19:51 |
| cubezzz | anyways, 2.4 ftw :) | May 28 19:52 |
| cubezzz | I even use 2.2 sometimes :) | May 28 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | no Stargate Universe tonight | May 28 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | just crappy B movies | May 28 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | boooo!!!! | May 28 19:52 |
| Aondo | :// | May 28 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Did I ever tell you that B movie girls are my favorite I scream clones? | May 28 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | nah, my dad got that on a button at Inconjunction one year | May 28 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | Mine was "He's dead Jim! You get his tricorder and I'll grab his wallet" | May 28 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 28 19:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux Described as Possible Solution to Windows Malware, "Freeware" http://ur1.ca/043sc http://ur1.ca/043se | May 28 20:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Versus Windows: Myths Debunked http://ur1.ca/043sz http://ur1.ca/043t1 | May 28 20:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How to Build a _Private_ Servers Cluster With #CentOS http://ur1.ca/043tv also see http://ur1.ca/043tx | May 28 20:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] List of Top #GNU #Linux Server Options, Led by #Debian http://ur1.ca/043tf | May 28 20:05 | |
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| cubezzz | it's silly not using the command line | May 28 20:07 |
| cubezzz | oooo command line is too hard | May 28 20:08 |
| MinceR | of course it's hard, it requires literacy | May 28 20:08 |
| cubezzz | is using a typewriter hard? | May 28 20:08 |
| cubezzz | of course not :) | May 28 20:08 |
| MinceR | no, they just press the keys randomly | May 28 20:08 |
| cubezzz | the world could very well be getting dumber | May 28 20:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Anyone who uses the word "luncheon" instead of "lunch" cannot be trusted. That is all. | May 28 20:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Audiocasts About GNU/Linux: The #Linux Link Tech, TuxRadar http://ur1.ca/043uk http://ur1.ca/043ul good casts! | May 28 20:09 | |
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| cubezzz | did you know that when the very first home computers came out you have to program them with switches? | May 28 20:09 |
| cubezzz | so you could program the boot-strap loader | May 28 20:10 |
| MinceR | i did | May 28 20:10 |
| MinceR | but my first (and only) home computer was a Sinclair ZX Spectrum | May 28 20:10 |
| cubezzz | I remember Timex Sinclair with 1K memory | May 28 20:11 |
| cubezzz | Kim-1 had serial video :) | May 28 20:11 |
| cubezzz | anyways, computers shouldn't just be point and grunt devices | May 28 20:12 |
| cubezzz | with locked down bioses | May 28 20:12 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 28 20:13 |
| cubezzz | hmm, z80 based | May 28 20:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Graphics Stack: #NVIDIA 256.25 , Catalyst 10.5, #Radeon http://ur1.ca/043vn http://ur1.ca/043vo http://ur1.ca/043vp | May 28 20:13 | |
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| cubezzz | I never had one of those | May 28 20:13 |
| cubezzz | those old computers are getting more and more expensive | May 28 20:16 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_1000 | May 28 20:16 |
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| DaemonFC | Chrome 5: Still without real content blocking | May 28 20:17 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Have you noticed that Novell runs spam blogs jsut to get hits in Google News when you search "Linux" or "Red Hat"? | May 28 20:18 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - lol wrong | May 28 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | http://techfreqnews.com/sample-post/73 | May 28 20:19 |
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| DaemonFC | The exploit being by design, how it works, and that it requires no knowledge from the user | May 28 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | typical Apple non-security | May 28 20:20 |
| ender2070 | i did a google search and news search and novell only appeared in the news one | May 28 20:20 |
| ender2070 | and it was a cnet article | May 28 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | they run splogs though | May 28 20:20 |
| ender2070 | seems google already filtered them | May 28 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | so you search Red Hat and get "switch to Suse now and we'll support your RHEL for free" | May 28 20:20 |
| ender2070 | #1 is novell revenue drops | May 28 20:21 |
| ender2070 | Novell revenues drop as board seeks sale | May 28 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | May 28 20:21 |
| ender2070 | the rest are red hat and fedora | May 28 20:21 |
| ender2070 | at least for me | May 28 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | they must have fired their spammer team | May 28 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen them doing that lately though | May 28 20:21 |
| cubezzz | novell is toast? | May 28 20:22 |
| ender2070 | novell seems to be toast | May 28 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | another company ruined | May 28 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | another several thousand soon to be laid-off employees | May 28 20:22 |
| ender2070 | i have no sympathy | May 28 20:22 |
| MinceR | neither do i | May 28 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | and a few very very obscenely rich managers | May 28 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | that get out with all the money | May 28 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 28 20:23 |
| MinceR | novell deserves to die | May 28 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Ron Hovsepian or whatever his name was | May 28 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | the Gordon Gecko running Novell | May 28 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | err, Gekko | May 28 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Gekko | May 28 20:24 |
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| ender2070 | anyone who wants to integrate with ms technology has mental illness | May 28 20:24 |
| ender2070 | i had to deal with some active directory bullshit the other day | May 28 20:24 |
| ender2070 | anyone who WANTS shit like that is insane | May 28 20:24 |
| cubezzz | you know me | May 28 20:24 |
| cubezzz | I hate Microsoft with the power of 10,000 suns | May 28 20:25 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | May 28 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | A new species of gekko discovered in 1993 in Lombok, Indonesia by M. Chandi was named after him: the gordongekkoi.[10] | May 28 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | hahahaha!!!! | May 28 20:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Games for GNU/Linux, New Listings, #Starcraft 2 http://ur1.ca/043y4 http://ur1.ca/043y5 http://ur1.ca/043y6 http://ur1.ca/043y7 | May 28 20:25 | |
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| cubezzz | my job is awesome | May 28 20:26 |
| cubezzz | I almost never look at a doze box | May 28 20:26 |
| ender2070 | what do you do? | May 28 20:26 |
| ender2070 | sounds like heaven | May 28 20:26 |
| cubezzz | I'm a computer consultant | May 28 20:26 |
| ender2070 | i had to migrate user profiles from one active directory server to another | May 28 20:27 |
| ender2070 | brutal | May 28 20:27 |
| cubezzz | setting up Linux boxes for customers :) | May 28 20:27 |
| ender2070 | rsync and /home directorys work so much better | May 28 20:27 |
| cubezzz | ender2070, why don't you try nudging folks over to Linux? | May 28 20:27 |
| ender2070 | I was working at GM and had to do what their head office wanted | May 28 20:27 |
| cubezzz | ah | May 28 20:28 |
| cubezzz | ender2070, I got a customer who wants to buy a 100% Fossbox | May 28 20:28 |
| cubezzz | he wants to see mine first of course | May 28 20:28 |
| ender2070 | nice | May 28 20:28 |
| cubezzz | kind of a prototype | May 28 20:28 |
| ender2070 | i have a hard time convincing regular users to go FOSS | May 28 20:29 |
| ender2070 | devs and super users are easy | May 28 20:29 |
| cubezzz | all the laptops I sold this year were dual-box at least | May 28 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | do they have ATI cards? :) | May 28 20:29 |
| cubezzz | not all | May 28 20:29 |
| cubezzz | a lot of them do though | May 28 20:30 |
| MinceR | i have to use a windows laptop for my current job :/ | May 28 20:30 |
| cubezzz | radeon mobility is quite common | May 28 20:30 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - ati might see some love soon | May 28 20:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Search-based Distro Popularity, #Sabayon 5.3 Imminent http://ur1.ca/043zf http://wgo.wolf911.us/?p=382 | May 28 20:30 | |
| ender2070 | once fedora has the nvidia ones working | May 28 20:30 |
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| ender2070 | i didnt know fedora was helping | May 28 20:30 |
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| ender2070 | they got intel working first, then started on nvidia | May 28 20:30 |
| ender2070 | ati is next | May 28 20:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Supreme Court Gets RIAA Copyright Case - http://bit.ly/bk8qwu not sure if this is big or not; any views? #copyright #scotus | May 28 20:31 | |
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| ender2070 | they talk about it in this video | May 28 20:32 |
| ender2070 | http://www.redhat.com/Fedora/ | May 28 20:32 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @fontana: @glynmoody it is just a petition for #scotus to review the case - chances are won't be taken up | May 28 20:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora Remix Brings in #Ubuntu Derivative's Software http://www.linuxmint.com/blog/?p=1418 | May 28 20:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 13 Gets Pretty Good Reviews http://ur1.ca/0440c http://ur1.ca/0440d http://ur1.ca/0440e | May 28 20:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | I think Ubuntu's printer solution is to just ship all the drivers | May 28 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 20:43 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 28 20:46 |
| ender2070 | fedora has the solution | May 28 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | well, I think Mesa is getting there, it just won't be right for me until about 6 months from now | May 28 20:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu / #Canonical Talks About New Designs http://ur1.ca/0442b http://ur1.ca/0442d http://ur1.ca/0442e | May 28 20:48 | |
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| ender2070 | you know what will happen | May 28 20:48 |
| ender2070 | fedora will get the ati shit all solved and ubuntu will just take it | May 28 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Are you on Fedora 13? | May 28 20:48 |
| ender2070 | yes | May 28 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | query yum for me would you | May 28 20:49 |
| ender2070 | sure | May 28 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | ask it what version of Mesa is in Rawhide | May 28 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | if it has a development snapshot of Mesa 7.9, I might jump in | May 28 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | the difference being, 7.9 development branch supports OpenGL 2.1 in Gallium for ATI | May 28 20:50 |
| ender2070 | whats the package name | May 28 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | 7.8 only does 2.0 | May 28 20:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Marathi Primary school ebooks available for XO laptop http://post.ly/hjOn | May 28 20:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Control Center Introduced http://ur1.ca/0442z http://ur1.ca/04430 http://ur1.ca/04431 | May 28 20:50 | |
| DaemonFC | package name is mesa | May 28 20:50 |
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| DaemonFC | I need at least OpenGL 2.1 or no dice | May 28 20:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Any MathML editor in JavaScript ? #mathml #javascript | May 28 20:53 | |
| cubezzz | do I need a CRT to do 320x200? | May 28 20:54 |
| cubezzz | seems like it | May 28 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | no | May 28 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | the mode has to be supported by the video driver though | May 28 20:55 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - they haven't built a rawhide package yet | May 28 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | nice | May 28 20:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #MeeGo 1.0 is Out, Reviewed http://ur1.ca/0444w http://ur1.ca/03wwk http://ur1.ca/0404g | May 28 20:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux / #Android Gains More Key Staff and Makes Big Progress http://ur1.ca/0445a http://ur1.ca/0445c http://ur1.ca/0445e | May 28 20:56 | |
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| ender2070 | DaemonFC- 7.9 is out right? | May 28 21:00 |
| ender2070 | stable? | May 28 21:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OLPC XO-3 Runs #Linux http://ur1.ca/0446j http://ur1.ca/0446k http://ur1.ca/0446l http://ur1.ca/03x1y | May 28 21:00 | |
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| ender2070 | 7.8.1 is the latest | May 28 21:01 |
| ender2070 | thats whats in f13 | May 28 21:01 |
| ender2070 | I don't see why they wouldn't use 7.9 once it hits stable for f14 | May 28 21:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Playing with a phone that retails at £12K. Mental. | May 28 21:02 | |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: No | May 28 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, you can pull it from GIT and use it now :) | May 28 21:04 |
| ender2070 | http://www.mesa3d.org/ | May 28 21:04 |
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| DaemonFC | on one hand, it may have bugs, on the other hand it probably performs better and supports more OpenGL | May 28 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 21:04 |
| ender2070 | its not released, its beta | May 28 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | not beta | May 28 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | not alpha either :) | May 28 21:04 |
| ender2070 | its not 'out' | May 28 21:05 |
| ender2070 | 7.8.1 was released april 10th | May 28 21:05 |
| ender2070 | they haven't finalized 7.9 | May 28 21:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz #Microsoft patent portfolio on standby...."If we can't make the products people want to use, we will threaten those that do"??? | May 28 21:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] REVIEW: DeVeDe 3.16.8 – DVD made easy! http://tinyurl.com/33zqhwl #linux #foss #dvd | May 28 21:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Next up, the tiny 446mb Peppermint... | May 28 21:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Most expensive phone I have ever held. Symbian S40 based! Retro. http://twitpic.com/1rwk35 | May 28 21:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Skulls on a phone. http://twitpic.com/1rwktz | May 28 21:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linux, Linux, #Linux at #Acer (Phones and Tablets) http://ur1.ca/0449m http://ur1.ca/0449n http://ur1.ca/0449o | May 28 21:15 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=46 | May 28 21:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://twitpic.com/1rwk35 - Yeah. | May 28 21:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid | May 28 21:19 |
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| DaemonFC | only good thing I have to say for Ubuntu | May 28 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | daily builds of Mesa in that repository | May 28 21:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I thought gizmodo couldn't get any more base. http://gizmodo.com/5550246/lets-help-ruin-bps-image-even-more Gizmodo is off my rss reader. | May 28 21:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | the git versions of the driver stack still often work better than Catalyst | May 28 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | "64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage" | May 28 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | jono: Is Ubuntu now Microsoft? | May 28 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 21:21 |
| MinceR | canonical is getting closer to m$ | May 28 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | 4 GB should be enough for anyone | May 28 21:21 |
| MinceR | getting ready to step into novell's place when it falls? :> | May 28 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him? | May 28 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 28 21:22 |
| MinceR | how many fools could a fool fool, if a fool could fool fools? | May 28 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | 42 + an orange | May 28 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 28 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Do you think they have the expertise to keep backstabbing Linux if Novell should fall? | May 28 21:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Hires Celik, Adds VP8 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-20005987-36.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20006147-264.html | May 28 21:24 | |
| DaemonFC | all they do with Mono is package it, like most other things | May 28 21:24 |
| Techrights | Title: Mozilla hires open-standards guru Celik | The Social - CNET News .::. Size~: 91.42 KB | May 28 21:24 |
| Techrights | Title: Mozilla trying to build VP8 into HTML5 video | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 107.89 KB | May 28 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | they're a bunch of rubberneckers | May 28 21:24 |
| ender2070 | ugg i hate people who tell users to use 32-bit instead | May 28 21:24 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they could consult m$ managers | May 28 21:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] VP8 Supported by #VLC and Intel http://ur1.ca/044c3 http://ur1.ca/044c4 http://ur1.ca/044c5 | May 28 21:25 | |
| Techrights | Title: VLC 1.1.0 Release Candidate supports WebM / VP8 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.58 KB | May 28 21:25 |
| Techrights | Title: Intel eyes hardware acceleration for Google's WebM - Computerworld .::. Size~: 78.61 KB | May 28 21:25 |
| Techrights | Title: WebM - The New Open Source Codec on the Block - Stream #0 .::. Size~: 23.15 KB | May 28 21:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Richard Stallman Takes Questions http://www.reddit.com/r/gnu/comments/c8rrk/rms_ama/ | May 28 21:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: RMS: AMA : gnu .::. Size~: 516.68 KB | May 28 21:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Government of #Turkey Paves Way to #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/044cp | May 28 21:29 | |
| Techrights | Title: TR: Ministry of Justice and law courts consider open source desktop — .::. Size~: 29.14 KB | May 28 21:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] This week's Linux Tech Show slams Canonical for UbuntuOne only supporting Apple and not Linux (and releasing buggy product) | May 28 21:35 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR.... | May 28 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | July 16, 2057 | May 28 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | is when Windows is telling me these folders were made | May 28 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | they appear to have been written in some alien language | May 28 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | so I believe we were on the losing side of the alien invasion | May 28 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | :( | May 28 21:37 |
| MinceR | that's my conclusion too | May 28 21:37 |
| MinceR | but i guess this species had it coming | May 28 21:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Hedge funds in need of generating quick returns in this challenging market are seeking investments in patent trolls http://ur1.ca/044ea | May 28 21:38 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The question being "Why do aliens use FAT32?" | May 28 21:38 |
| MinceR | perhaps they don't | May 28 21:39 |
| MinceR | or perhaps it's a form of punishment | May 28 21:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digital Economy Bill: Call for Action Against Such Disgrace http://ur1.ca/044et #debill | May 28 21:39 | |
| Techrights | Title: Open Rights Group | The future of the Digital Economy Act is in your hands .::. Size~: 12.63 KB | May 28 21:39 |
| MinceR | sentenced to 1 month of windows use | May 28 21:39 |
| MinceR | finally i've found out how to search for addresses in Ovi Maps and how to make it use the compass :> | May 28 21:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Renewed Calls for #ACTA Backlash http://ur1.ca/044f2 http://ur1.ca/044f4 | May 28 21:41 | |
| Techrights | Title: US Copyright Official Discounts ACTA Concerns - PCWorld .::. Size~: 69.99 KB | May 28 21:41 |
| Techrights | Title: US Copyright Official Pretends That Concerns About ACTA Are Unfounded; Mocks Legitimate Concerns | Techdirt .::. Size~: 93.83 KB | May 28 21:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #ACTA news: http://ur1.ca/044fa http://ur1.ca/044fb http://ur1.ca/044fc Let's not be idle | May 28 21:42 | |
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| ender2070 | maybe the aliens had to install it to listen to our drm music | May 28 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | they have time travel too, ender2070 | May 28 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | some of these folders go back to August of 1989 | May 28 21:46 |
| ender2070 | hmm | May 28 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | they're altering the timeline | May 28 21:46 |
| ender2070 | reptilians! | May 28 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | wait, I know what's going on | May 28 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | they crash landed here on August 17, 1989 | May 28 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | the Reptilian scouting party that is | May 28 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | and they've been keeping detailed notes on us using their PCs | May 28 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | until finally, in the year 2057, when portable media drives still use FAT32, the Reptilian War Fleet arrives | May 28 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | rescues them (hence the notes ending there) | May 28 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | we have to assume the Reptilians have either enslaved humans | May 28 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | or destroyed Earth entirely | May 28 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | but how did their notes and invasion plan get onto my MP3 player? | May 28 21:50 |
| MinceR | how do you know they're reptilians? | May 28 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | cause who else would it be? | May 28 21:50 |
| MinceR | they could be energy beings, robots, arthropods or parasites | May 28 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | anyhow, I further believe that my future self, aged 73, used the Reptilian time displacement technology | May 28 21:51 |
| MinceR | or fungi | May 28 21:51 |
| MinceR | etc. | May 28 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | to bring back their plans on an MP3 player near identical to my own | May 28 21:51 |
| MinceR | they might even be humanoid | May 28 21:52 |
| MinceR | mammalian humanoid, that is | May 28 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | and then left before I noticed him here, creating some kind of temporal paradox | May 28 21:52 |
| _goblin | or they might not even be carbon based at all. | May 28 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: You mean the Xindi? | May 28 21:52 |
| _goblin | what about the creator of the cylons? Were they not reptillian? | May 28 21:53 |
| _goblin | and Im not talking about the naffing new version. | May 28 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't follow Battlestar Galactica | May 28 21:53 |
| _goblin | not the original? | May 28 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | but I believe it was humans that created the cylons | May 28 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | wasn't it? | May 28 21:53 |
| _goblin | thats the new series.... | May 28 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | a munitions contractor | May 28 21:54 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: the aliens could be something that isn't exactly or even remotely like aliens seen in tv shows | May 28 21:54 |
| _goblin | in the original, it was a lizard type race that created the cylons and then the cylons turned on them | May 28 21:54 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: at the very least they might have different names | May 28 21:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin openSUSE number 4 on Distrowatch stats? oh dear. Its nice to see Arch creeping up there, a great distro, as is Wolvix. | May 28 21:55 | |
| DaemonFC | it's unlikely, based on what has been observed, that there are other higher lifeforms in this area of our galaxy | May 28 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | but that's still not saying much | May 28 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | other than we know that Jupiter-like planets tend to form on the inside of a solar system | May 28 21:56 |
| schestowitz | [19:31] <_goblin> talking of cost....natal is apparently priced at $150 | May 28 21:56 |
| schestowitz | DoA | May 28 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | or a planet that might otherwise be Earth-like has an orbit that rules out life as we understand it | May 28 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's heads there left | May 28 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Bach, Allard | May 28 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Sony will have something like Natal, Wii had it for years (free even) | May 28 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: You do know that Earth would be uninhabitable without the moon | May 28 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | take it away and leave everything else the way it is, all life on Earth would die | May 28 21:57 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: it does seem a little desperate......isn't the 360 now too old to be looking at new investments? Surely to recover the dev costs of Natal, they are going to keep the 360 alive for a while longer..... | May 28 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: Yes and no | May 28 21:58 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: and the whole cycle of MS being left behind starts again. | May 28 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | Playstations tend to have a life expectancy of about 10 years to some extent or another | May 28 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | they're still making new games for PS2 | May 28 21:58 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: remember that Xbox doesn't even have bluray, so its not even future proofed as a home movie player. | May 28 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's also possible that software upgrades could breathe some life into an existing console | May 28 21:59 |
| ender2070 | external drives | May 28 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | but at any rate, no I don't think it's a great idea to make add-ons for a 5 year old console | May 28 21:59 |
| ender2070 | hdtv wont be mainstream for a while anyways | May 28 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: It already is mainstream | May 28 21:59 |
| ender2070 | no its not | May 28 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, if Huntington, Indiana has it.... | May 28 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | it was probably mainstream 3-5 years ago | May 28 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 28 22:00 |
| ender2070 | they exist yes | May 28 22:00 |
| ender2070 | most people dont own them | May 28 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | I have one, it wasn't that expensive | May 28 22:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Damn Peppermint, is a speedy distro...... This is very good...... #peppermint #linux #foss | May 28 22:00 | |
| ender2070 | standard def still outnumbers it | May 28 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | even the cheap LCD HDTVs are a hell of an upgrade from any CRT or reverse projection set | May 28 22:01 |
| ender2070 | yeah but dude, until joe average owns one its not mainstream | May 28 22:01 |
| ender2070 | right now its a toy for the richer people or people with no financial burdens | May 28 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | actually, I have two HDTVs | May 28 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to be technical about it | May 28 22:01 |
| ender2070 | you got yours under $200 | May 28 22:01 |
| *jono has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) | May 28 22:01 | |
| DaemonFC | the old one is a 27" CRT with 1080i resolution and no ATSC tuner :P | May 28 22:02 |
| schestowitz | [20:18] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Have you noticed that Novell runs spam blogs jsut to get hits in Google News when you search "Linux" or "Red Hat"? | May 28 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I wrote about it | May 28 22:02 |
| ender2070 | less than 10% of people with tv own hdtvs | May 28 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | my grandmother owns an HDTV | May 28 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 28 22:02 |
| ender2070 | by the next gen consoles, blueray might be useful | May 28 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | she watches Benny Hinn perform all of his cheap parlor tricks in HD | May 28 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 28 22:03 |
| ender2070 | old people love tv | May 28 22:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @DaemonFC Have you noticed that Novell runs spam blogs jsut to get hits in Google News when you search "Linux" or "Red Hat"? | May 28 22:03 | |
| DaemonFC | Blu Ray is already useful | May 28 22:03 |
| *_goblin_ (~goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | May 28 22:03 | |
| ender2070 | not for me | May 28 22:03 |
| ender2070 | i dont own any hdtvs | May 28 22:03 |
| ender2070 | cheapest one i've seen runs around $700 | May 28 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | even at 720p, Blu Ray blows away any of my DVDs | May 28 22:04 |
| schestowitz | [20:24] <DaemonFC> err, Gekko | May 28 22:04 |
| *jono (~jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #boycottnovell | May 28 22:04 | |
| schestowitz | No, Geeko | May 28 22:04 |
| ender2070 | im not buying 720p | May 28 22:04 |
| ender2070 | it was obsolete when it came out | May 28 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | of course the player can upconvert them, but it's not the same | May 28 22:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Wikipedia entry on SVG-Edit - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svg-edit #svg #svg-edit Please improve it | May 28 22:04 | |
| DaemonFC | just stretching a 640 x480 image to 1280 x 720 | May 28 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 22:04 |
| Techrights | Title: Svg-edit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 23.9 KB | May 28 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Gordon Geeko | May 28 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | the CEO of Novell | May 28 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 28 22:04 |
| ender2070 | hdtv's are supposed to be cheaper to make than crt's | May 28 22:05 |
| ender2070 | why are they more expensive | May 28 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | they are | May 28 22:05 |
| ender2070 | because its ALL a rip off | May 28 22:05 |
| ender2070 | my lcd monitor has higher resolution | May 28 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | CRT involves more materials, toxic compounds, higher shipping costs | May 28 22:05 |
| *_goblin has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | May 28 22:06 | |
| DaemonFC | and they cost the customer more electricity to operate | May 28 22:06 |
| ender2070 | it might be useful to have blueray on my pc | May 28 22:06 |
| ender2070 | but i never plan to own blueray | May 28 22:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra ♺ @fontana: @glynmoody it is just a petition for #scotus to review the case - chances are won't be taken up | May 28 22:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Novell revenues drop as board seeks sale: http://tinyurl.com/3x6jf2b #novell #microsoft #linux #foss #windows #vista #xp #mono | May 28 22:06 | |
| Techrights | Title: Novell revenues drop as board seeks sale • The Register .::. Size~: 36.02 KB | May 28 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Cream floats and so does shit | May 28 22:07 |
| ender2070 | if i even buy a burner, money still goes to sony | May 28 22:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin #Microsoft patent portfolio on standby...."If we can't make the products people want to use, we will threaten those that do"??? | May 28 22:07 | |
| ender2070 | no matter what brand | May 28 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | might explain Fedora and Ubuntu's position on Distrowatch | May 28 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu being the latter | May 28 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: For their patents on the drive itself? | May 28 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 28 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | but as far as codec patent fees go, no | May 28 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | those depend entirely on the playback software | May 28 22:08 |
| schestowitz | [21:21] <MinceR> canonical is getting closer to m$ | May 28 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Not really, not more than before | May 28 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | oddly enough, Samsung makes the best Blu Ray players from what I've seen | May 28 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Actually, Mac Asay hasn't done anything too bad yet. Let's assume good faiyth | May 28 22:09 |
| schestowitz | *faith | May 28 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | if he hasn't been naughty, why do you call him that? | May 28 22:10 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: so the recent osx-ification of the gui is not asay's doing? | May 28 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 22:10 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: also, recently i've seen you(?) quote him advertising m$ | May 28 22:10 |
| MinceR | hiring asay was already a bad thing | May 28 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | has anyone used Mandriva's boot.iso? | May 28 22:11 |
| MinceR | it took public backlash to make canonical back out of the bing-o deal | May 28 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | they did? | May 28 22:11 |
| MinceR | same with the google docs deal | May 28 22:11 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i think they did, i'm not sure | May 28 22:11 |
| MinceR | i still haven't got around to installing 10.04 in a VM | May 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | [21:57] <_goblin> schestowitz: it does seem a little desperate......isn't the 360 now too old to be looking at new investments? Surely to recover the dev costs of Natal, they are going to keep the 360 alive for a while longer..... | May 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | They sell it for too cheap | May 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | It's the only way to stay in the game | May 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Then it breaks 6 times | May 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | And they need to repair/replace | May 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | And they need to make new peripherals to keep up (costing more $$) | May 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Bach is out | May 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Peter is out to Activision or something since ~2008 | May 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | The whole Xbox team has left the building | May 28 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: 6+ times | May 28 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 28 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Fresh bl00d is in, along with Zune and Zin (KIN) | May 28 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: the Wii is still working fine | May 28 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | not a problem since the day I bought it | May 28 22:13 |
| MinceR | reddit is slow, it should move off amazon | May 28 22:14 |
| schestowitz | [22:04] <DaemonFC> the CEO of Novell | May 28 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Ahhh... I knew he was an illuminati freemasonic REPTILIAN! :-) :-) | May 28 22:14 |
| schestowitz | [22:07] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Cream floats and so does shit | May 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz | And BP spew | May 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz | [22:10] <MinceR> schestowitz: so the recent osx-ification of the gui is not asay's doing? | May 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz | OSX is copycat | May 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Metallic ain't their | May 28 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | why the hell did they change the window controls? | May 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Also, I wonder if UbuntooooooOne support just hypePhones with Mac Asay's endorsement | May 28 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | that makes no sense | May 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz | [22:13] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: the Wii is still working fine | May 28 22:16 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i'm referring to moving the titlebar buttons to the left and adopting the new color scheme | May 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz | A show I just listened to for 2 hours says one broke too.... bad memory something | May 28 22:16 |
| ender2070 | my wii works fine too | May 28 22:16 |
| MinceR | ...in bed! | May 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz | $85 for sending to repair | May 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz | [22:14] <MinceR> reddit is slow, it should move off amazon | May 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Amazon=Red Hat with SUSE-style Microsoft tax | May 28 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: projectile Wiimote knocking it off the stand onto the floor while playing a fishing game doesn't count as defective product | May 28 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Just got more mail from Latvia: | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | " | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > Recent I asked you to remove some parts, but let they stay. But, why I | May 28 22:18 |
| MinceR | unless the wrist strap breaks too easily | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > asked, because I wonder if one day I will be sued from Microsoft. Maybe | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > I am paranoid too much. Is there risk? | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > Can you put this info in website too? | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.likumi.lv/doc.php%3Fid%3D100665&sl=auto&tl=en | May 28 22:18 |
| Techrights | Title: Google Translate .::. Size~: 0.94 KB | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > <http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.likumi.lv/doc.php%3Fid%3D100665&sl=auto&tl=en> | May 28 22:18 |
| Techrights | Title: Google Translate .::. Size~: 0.9 KB | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > What you can say? | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > | May 28 22:18 |
| MinceR | but the wrist strap isn't nearly as serious as suXboxes frying themselves | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | > The best, | May 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz | " | May 28 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's because of stupid assholes takin out their TV set with a ballistic Wiimote that I have to click through a "Wear your wrist strap" screen every time a game loads | May 28 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's one of those "Hey dumbass, your coffee is hot!" lids | May 28 22:19 |
| _goblin_ | DaemonFC, or dogs apparently too.....there was a story that a dog was injured by one. | May 28 22:19 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/33774735#notice-33933464 "I am very curios about the Control Center... Will it be introduced in july with the 10.04.1?" | May 28 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | poor dog | May 28 22:20 |
| Techrights | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.42 KB | May 28 22:20 |
| schestowitz | When it is out? | May 28 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu 10.10? | May 28 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | they need to take him to a new home with intelligent owners | May 28 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | October | May 28 22:20 |
| _goblin_ | yeah 6months | May 28 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The Hunt for Purple October | May 28 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 28 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | Create an MS-DOS startup disk lives on | May 28 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's still in Windows 7 :P | May 28 22:22 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: http://everything2.com/title/Watch+out+now%252C+that+rain+is+wet | May 28 22:23 |
| Techrights | Title: Watch out now, that rain is wet@Everything2.com .::. Size~: 26.66 KB | May 28 22:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Promising New Features in K Desktop Environment ( #KDE SC) 4.5 http://ur1.ca/044nz | May 28 22:26 | |
| Techrights | Title: KDE 4.5 beta brings window tiling, new notifications .::. Size~: 27.88 KB | May 28 22:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Old Computers Have Many #GNU #Linux Options http://ur1.ca/044o0 | May 28 22:27 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks | May 28 22:28 |
| schestowitz | load average: 8.05, 3.17, 1.39 | May 28 22:29 |
| schestowitz | We get a lot of attention right now, I think it's the posts about KDE and Apple | May 28 22:29 |
| _goblin_ | It seems Tuxmachines liked my DeVeDe article, I only finished it an hour ago and its already linked! | May 28 22:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Excited to see Penelope, Jonathan, and Chris volunteering to merge The Art Of Community into http://is.gd/ctxKX (bprint: http://is.gd/ctxLD) | May 28 22:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and one of the best idea's is Puppy Arcade 8 (IMO) http://tinyurl.com/3y6fnyn #linux #foss #gaming | May 28 22:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | heh | May 28 22:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva Shows Many New Wallpapers and #PCLinuxOS Works Well http://ur1.ca/044rj http://ur1.ca/044rk | May 28 22:42 | |
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| Techrights | Title: PCLinuxOS « JohanSJA .::. Size~: 22.25 KB | May 28 22:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin yeah, TuxMachines is very very FAST | May 28 22:43 | |
| DaemonFC | "Huntington resident Ryan Farmer was not amused by Mr. Updike's decision, commenting "You might expect people to be angry if it was just a tax increase or just a decrease in services, but Mayor Updike has now given us both at the same time. Thanks!'" | May 28 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | hahaha!!!! | May 28 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | nice | May 28 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Heh | May 28 22:44 |
| schestowitz | BTW, you removes his modified image | May 28 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 28 22:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/images?hl=&q=Updike&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | May 28 22:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Updike - Google Search .::. Size~: 64.35 KB | May 28 22:45 |
| schestowitz | There's a big Dike than him | May 28 22:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Thanks :( ....not Im very very good? ;) | May 28 22:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] !Ubuntu !GNU !Linux Owns the HypePhone, More Ubuntu News http://ur1.ca/03wd5 http://ur1.ca/044rl http://akgraner.com/?p=471 | May 28 22:46 | |
| Techrights | Title: Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 can read your iPhone's secrets | ZDNet .::. Size~: 125.81 KB | May 28 22:46 |
| Techrights | Title: Canonical, Ubuntu: We're More Than Mark Shuttleworth | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 56.89 KB | May 28 22:46 |
| Techrights | Title: akgraner » Blog Archive » Guitars to Goat Festivals Ubuntu For All! .::. Size~: 23.73 KB | May 28 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu evokes both anger and popularity | May 28 22:46 |
| schestowitz | It's fascinating. | May 28 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://bit.ly/dt0Ng0 | May 28 22:46 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz no more publicity of ubuntu, plz. Mandrake 9.2 was enough for my very old machine." http://identi.ca/conversation/33783297#notice-33943580 | May 28 22:46 |
| Techrights | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.32 KB | May 28 22:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: poor sod | May 28 22:47 |
| schestowitz | He's carrying cargo for people | May 28 22:47 |
| _goblin_ | schestowitz: From what ive seen of 10.04, Ive been very impressed. It (IMO) is exactly the type of distro to show people they don't need to consider PC=Windows | May 28 22:48 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm so disgusted by Ubuntu at this point, that's part of the reason I'm using Windows at all | May 28 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | the quality of the distribution is going down | May 28 22:48 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: there are other distros | May 28 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | the attitude of the community is awful | May 28 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | snobs | May 28 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | not Apple snobs, Ubuntu snobs | May 28 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | and the snobbery is jsut as bad | May 28 22:49 |
| cubezzz | can I be an AROS snob? :) | May 28 22:49 |
| MinceR | check out the bsd community and you won't see snobs in the ubuntu community anymore | May 28 22:49 |
| cubezzz | no, wait, I'm a FOSS snob! | May 28 22:49 |
| cubezzz | even more snobbish | May 28 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's their time to waste | May 28 22:50 |
| _goblin_ | cubezzz, I don't see any probs with being an AROS snob | May 28 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 22:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <DaemonFC> the quality of the distribution is going down | May 28 22:50 |
| schestowitz | No | May 28 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | I mean quality as in many things | May 28 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | the GUI is devolving | May 28 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | the software stack is buggier | May 28 22:50 |
| schestowitz | No | May 28 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | etc. | May 28 22:50 |
| schestowitz | It's improving | May 28 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Kubuntu and Ubuntu too | May 28 22:50 |
| schestowitz | How long have you even tried it for? | May 28 22:51 |
| schestowitz | I bet YOU NEVER TRIED IT~! | May 28 22:51 |
| ender2070 | i just use fedora and good hardware | May 28 22:51 |
| cubezzz | bah | May 28 22:51 |
| cubezzz | you don't even use coreboot :) | May 28 22:52 |
| MinceR | they're actually devolving the gui in ubuntu now | May 28 22:52 |
| MinceR | with stupid ideas like killing the notification area and client-side decorations | May 28 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Maaaaaaakos.. | May 28 22:52 |
| schestowitz | KISS Makos | May 28 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Keep is Simple, Sucker | May 28 22:53 |
| ender2070 | yeah ubuntu is turning into another lindows/xandros incompatible debian clone | May 28 22:53 |
| schestowitz | No tax :-) | May 28 22:53 |
| schestowitz | No codecs | May 28 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Unless it's from OEMs | May 28 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Then it's licensed with Larry Horn and MarkS | May 28 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | May 28 22:54 |
| schestowitz | MarkS | May 28 22:54 |
| ender2070 | :) | May 28 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Pronounced like Marx | May 28 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Never thought of that | May 28 22:54 |
| cubezzz | what OS would Tesla use? :) | May 28 22:54 |
| ender2070 | I like being able to use youtube without rpmfusion or flash | May 28 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu MarkS Edition | May 28 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Linux for each human... according to his/her ability | May 28 22:54 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: HAARPOS | May 28 22:55 |
| cubezzz | ? | May 28 22:55 |
| ender2070 | Ubuntu - Linux for human beings (if you don't like our changes, you're inhuman trash) | May 28 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Maybe fermi/Cern's scientificlinux | May 28 22:55 |
| cubezzz | ah | May 28 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Is Fermilab still involved in it? | May 28 22:56 |
| MinceR | maybe i'm inhuman, but it's the humans that are trash | May 28 22:56 |
| MinceR | afaik cern has their own variant of scientificlinux | May 28 22:56 |
| cubezzz | we're not humanists, were are rationalists | May 28 22:56 |
| cubezzz | we are | May 28 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntrillian - Linux for Reptilians | May 28 22:56 |
| ender2070 | cern made scientific linux | May 28 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Comes in Blue-blooded edition :-) | May 28 22:57 |
| ender2070 | http://www.scientificlinux.org/ | May 28 22:57 |
| Techrights | Title: Scientific Linux - Welcome to Scientific Linux (SL) .::. Size~: 24.47 KB | May 28 22:57 |
| schestowitz | WHat ever happened to blubuntu | May 28 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Around 2006/7 | May 28 22:57 |
| ender2070 | SL is a Linux release put together by Fermilab, CERN, and various other labs and universities around the world. Its primary purpose is to reduce duplicated effort of the labs, and to have a common install base for the various experimenters. | May 28 22:57 |
| schestowitz | It was themed differently | May 28 22:57 |
| schestowitz | I reckon he couldn't be arsed to redress a distro every 6 months | May 28 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu has gone dark now | May 28 22:57 |
| schestowitz | It's better to make it pitch black than douche-esque | May 28 22:58 |
| schestowitz | I like dark colours | May 28 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yeah, CERN and Fermilab for Scientific Linux | May 28 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | SL is a better choice lately than CentOS | May 28 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | just cause SL releases updates faster | May 28 22:58 |
| schestowitz | How so? | May 28 22:58 |
| MinceR | ender2070: http://linux.web.cern.ch/linux/scientific.shtml | May 28 22:58 |
| Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 Moved .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 28 22:58 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | May 28 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | much less turnaround for new versions too | May 28 22:58 |
| MinceR | And Scientific Linux CERN (SLC) ? | May 28 22:58 |
| schestowitz | What does LHC use? | May 28 22:58 |
| MinceR | SLC is an SL variant that is built on top of the genuine SL and it is tailored to integrate within the CERN computing environment. | May 28 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes a month or so | May 28 22:59 |
| MinceR | dunno | May 28 22:59 |
| schestowitz | Some KDE s/t | May 28 22:59 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 28 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | CentOS is perfectly fine if you're content with lagging two months behind RHEL | May 28 22:59 |
| ender2070 | so SLC, is a copy of SL which is a copy of RHEL | May 28 22:59 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 28 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Scientific Linux is only a month or so behind RHEL for new releases | May 28 22:59 |
| ender2070 | maybe CentOS should base itself on SLC | May 28 22:59 |
| schestowitz | http://enterprisemobiletoday.com/news/article.php/3884891/Meego-10-Arrives-for-Linux-Netbooks.htm | May 28 22:59 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 28 22:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: techrights runs centos | May 28 23:00 |
| schestowitz | and Techrights Bot, BNi, BNtwitter... | May 28 23:00 |
| ender2070 | pwnage.ca is moving over to fedora | May 28 23:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] The Libre Graphics Meeting talks at http://is.gd/ctz3L - Going through one by one, quite interesting. Want more... :) #LGM | May 28 23:00 | |
| Techrights | Title: LGM 2010 | River Valley TV .::. Size~: 52.39 KB | May 28 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | if you're not real concerned about getting new versions real fast, CentOS is fine | May 28 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | like I said | May 28 23:00 |
| schestowitz | You don't even use Linux | May 28 23:00 |
| schestowitz | You cowardly ran to you beloved Ballmer | May 28 23:01 |
| ender2070 | having deltas for updates will reduce my bandwidth costs for it | May 28 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Slackware comes in 6 CDs | May 28 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | SweatyB protects me from the horrible brown thing | May 28 23:01 |
| ender2070 | RHEL doesnt use deltas yet, not till RHEL6 I think | May 28 23:01 |
| schestowitz | 13.1 | May 28 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | errr purple thing | May 28 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 28 23:01 |
| schestowitz | No | May 28 23:01 |
| schestowitz | You're thinking about Ballmer's tongue | May 28 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | RHEL 6 pretty much looks like Fedora 13 at this point | May 28 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | basically the same | May 28 23:02 |
| ender2070 | Slackware 13.1 is the closest distro to Fedora in terms of key software revisions | May 28 23:02 |
| ender2070 | nah | May 28 23:02 |
| ender2070 | RHEL6 is fedora 12 + a few extras | May 28 23:02 |
| ender2070 | no kde 4.4 | May 28 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's based off Fedora 13 | May 28 23:02 |
| ender2070 | no its not | May 28 23:03 |
| ender2070 | its based on f12 | May 28 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | 13 | May 28 23:03 |
| ender2070 | plus some extras from f13 | May 28 23:03 |
| ender2070 | dude, most of the packages were built in the fall | May 28 23:03 |
| ender2070 | sept/oct | May 28 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://qimo4kids.com/post/Qimo-20-is-now-available!.aspx | May 28 23:04 |
| ender2070 | you dont even use linux | May 28 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | aspp | May 28 23:04 |
| ender2070 | you have no idea | May 28 23:04 |
| schestowitz | he dabbled in it | May 28 23:05 |
| schestowitz | "don't get me wrong, I tried linux, but" troll | May 28 23:05 |
| schestowitz | He's the buttroll | May 28 23:05 |
| schestowitz | "[statement], but" | May 28 23:05 |
| schestowitz | but-troll | May 28 23:06 |
| cubezzz | it should have been Unix but the MMU was expensive in the early days | May 28 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Maybe also butt-troll | May 28 23:06 |
| Aondo | i think you meant ass troll :D | May 28 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | "I have to be an atheist, but..." | May 28 23:06 |
| schestowitz | "I used to be a Muslin, but..." | May 28 23:06 |
| *DaemonFC smacks cubezzz with an 80387 | May 28 23:06 | |
| DaemonFC | you're welcome :) | May 28 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | "Darwin is a very smart man, but..." | May 28 23:06 |
| cubezzz | that's the FPU :) | May 28 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | it was free | May 28 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 28 23:06 |
| ender2070 | Evolution, discovery by someone who boned both his aunts | May 28 23:07 |
| schestowitz | "<bizarre statement>, but quantum physics... <excuse>" | May 28 23:07 |
| schestowitz | That's the "appeal to quantum physics" for quackery and pseudo-science | May 28 23:07 |
| ender2070 | quantum physics is real | May 28 23:08 |
| cubezzz | look up Ludwig Plutonium :) | May 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: speaking of evolution: http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/evolution-express-for-meego.html | May 28 23:08 |
| Techrights | Title: GNOME Project Listing .::. Size~: 1.99 KB | May 28 23:08 |
| cubezzz | I remember him from Usenet | May 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Novell makes evolution for meego | May 28 23:08 |
| ender2070 | meego has a mono runtime built in | May 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | May 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Novell+Moblin | May 28 23:08 |
| ender2070 | so much for that being good | May 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz | They called it Goblin | May 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Not _Goblin | May 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Moblin+Novell=Goblin | May 28 23:09 |
| ender2070 | too bad evolution is the worst piece of trash ever invented | May 28 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Fedora has Zafara | May 28 23:09 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, it means Giraffe in Arabic | May 28 23:09 |
| schestowitz | GPLv3 for the community version | May 28 23:09 |
| ender2070 | yeah but Zafara isn't an abortion | May 28 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Seems like Feodra helps them upsell proprietary | May 28 23:10 |
| ender2070 | evolution is | May 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Which I found weird | May 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Thunderbird is good too | May 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz | With lightning/sunbird | May 28 23:10 |
| ender2070 | thunderbird is pretty good | May 28 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | Nobody extend Chandler after Kaper withdrew | May 28 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | *Kapor | May 28 23:10 |
| *schestowitz a thunderbird user since 2003 | May 28 23:10 | |
| schestowitz | [maybe 04] | May 28 23:11 |
| ender2070 | i used it when it came out | May 28 23:11 |
| ender2070 | whenever that was | May 28 23:11 |
| ender2070 | i used to love netscape mail | May 28 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Kmail was OK, not enough plugins/function | May 28 23:11 |
| schestowitz | I used NEtscape mail | May 28 23:11 |
| ender2070 | kmail needs to be finished | May 28 23:11 |
| ender2070 | then it will kill stuff | May 28 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Almost first mail client I used, I had other lighter ones | May 28 23:12 |
| schestowitz | For WIndows 95 | May 28 23:12 |
| ender2070 | yeah same here | May 28 23:12 |
| schestowitz | I don't think I used E-mail in WIn 3.11 | May 28 23:12 |
| schestowitz | That was before Netscape even | May 28 23:12 |
| ender2070 | i used it with a free pop3 account I got with netaddress | May 28 23:12 |
| ender2070 | my high school ran windows 3.11 for workgroups with novell netware | May 28 23:12 |
| schestowitz | I had to manually set up the whole Dinamode modem mess | May 28 23:12 |
| ender2070 | we had a special drive mapping for our own files and ran netscape off of it with our own bookmarks | May 28 23:13 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2005/01/03/how-it-all-began/ | May 28 23:13 |
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| ender2070 | makes me think even more bad things about active directory, the registry, and windows user profiles | May 28 23:13 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 28 23:13 |
| ender2070 | any 3.11 client machine i logged into had my netscape, netscape mail and bookmarks | May 28 23:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] can't believe this - Typesetting music in LaTeX http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2009/03/15/typesetting-music-in-latex-and-lilypond/ #latex | May 28 23:14 | |
| Techrights | Title: Typesetting music in LaTeX and LilyPond The Endeavour .::. Size~: 50.07 KB | May 28 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Firefox Sync Coming 'Home' to iPhone http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3884726/Firefox-Sync-Coming-Home-to-iPhone.htm | May 28 23:15 |
| Techrights | Title: Firefox Sync Coming 'Home' to iPhone — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 71.18 KB | May 28 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Why was this in LinuxToday? | May 28 23:15 |
| ender2070 | netscape 3.04 gold | May 28 23:15 |
| ender2070 | bam | May 28 23:15 |
| schestowitz | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/cnews/article.php/3884856/Tech-Comics-Quick-Start-Guide-to-the-NCC-1701-D.htm | May 28 23:16 |
| Techrights | Title: Tech Comics: "Quick Start Guide to the NCC-1701-D" — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 85.27 KB | May 28 23:16 |
| schestowitz | A lot of the time LinuxTOday just links to partner sites of jupitermedia | May 28 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Rather than news that's relevant to Linux | May 28 23:16 |
| schestowitz | That's a shame | May 28 23:16 |
| schestowitz | It also advertises Microsoft a lot | May 28 23:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Pandora 's #Linux -based Console Now Shipping http://www.junauza.com/2010/05/pandora-open-source-linux-based.html | May 28 23:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Variant #Qimo 2.0 is Released, #MintLinux 9 is Reviewed http://ur1.ca/044wy http://ur1.ca/044x0 | May 28 23:17 | |
| Techrights | Title: Pandora Open Source, Linux-based Handheld Game Console Now Shipping | TechSource .::. Size~: 93.05 KB | May 28 23:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Qimo 4 Kids | Qimo 2.0 is now available! .::. Size~: 51.77 KB | May 28 23:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Linux Mint 9: A Fresh Spin on Ubuntu | ZDNet .::. Size~: 145.27 KB | May 28 23:17 |
| schestowitz | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3884966/Novell-Revenues-Linux-Business-Slide.htm | May 28 23:18 |
| Techrights | Title: Novell Revenues, Linux Business Slide — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 72.81 KB | May 28 23:18 |
| ender2070 | later kids | May 28 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | later grandpa | May 28 23:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/05/download-youtube-videos-in-ubuntu.html | May 28 23:21 |
| Techrights | Title: Download YouTube Videos in Ubuntu Without Any Dedicated Application | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 40.49 KB | May 28 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.ohcanadamovie.com/ | May 28 23:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://twitpic.com/1rwk35 - They're hand made which is one reason why they're ridiculously priced. | May 28 23:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #followfriday @johnnewton @gvanrossum @petermurrayrust @OpenSociety @bankster_USA | May 28 23:27 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MORTGAGE_RATES?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | May 28 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | You're saved :-) | May 28 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Now you just need to get a mortgage... | May 28 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Mortgage a liver | May 28 23:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #FreeSoftware Makes a Difference for the Better http://ur1.ca/044zs http://ur1.ca/044zw | May 28 23:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell, #enTourage , #Via Tablets Use #Linux to Beat HypePad http://ur1.ca/044zr http://ur1.ca/044zt http://ur1.ca/044zv | May 28 23:33 | |
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| schestowitz | MEP David Hammerstein ... I think his blog was cracked again (wall of spammy links in all pages) | May 28 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Like this : http://www.tacd-ip.org/blog/2010/05/28/us-and-eu-turn-their-backs-on-right-to-read-for-blind-and-print-disabled/ | May 28 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | JavaScript seems to be hiding those links | May 28 23:36 |
| schestowitz | Heh | May 28 23:36 |
| _Goblin | right...think Im off for the night... | May 28 23:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Just delivered my tax report, and just in time too. Stressed out that *now* Portugal forces me to use proprietary software for eGov #fail | May 28 23:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Community Thrives in #Europe http://ur1.ca/04519 http://ur1.ca/0451b | May 28 23:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sharing Makes More Sense Than Not Sharing: Explanation http://ur1.ca/04518 http://ur1.ca/0451a | May 28 23:37 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: FYI Peppermint is absolutely fantastic.... | May 28 23:38 |
| _Goblin | gn all. | May 28 23:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] In previous years I could do that with a huge HTML form in a web page if I didn't want to use their proprietary application. Now gone. #fail | May 28 23:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin Ubuntu->Mint->Pepper | May 28 23:39 | |
| schestowitz | http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/05/28/annoyance/ "I stumbled upon an article giving solutions to problems that mostly were made by M$. A better solution the writer missed is to use GNU/Linux and be done with most of those things. No pesky EULA. No malware. No slowing down and few re-re-reboots." | May 28 23:40 |
| Techrights | Title: Annoyance at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 24.73 KB | May 28 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Windows- rebooting's one's TV on patch Tuesdays! | May 28 23:40 |
| *DaemonFC (~none@ppp-69-215-14-185.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) has joined #boycottnovell | May 28 23:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Eclipse Calls for Participation http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2010/submissions/?page=submissions | May 28 23:45 | |
| Techrights | Title: Propose an Eclipse Summit Europe 2010 Talk .::. Size~: 10.56 KB | May 28 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-20006248-16.html | May 28 23:46 |
| Techrights | Title: Novell auction could be patent troll bonanza | The Open Road - CNET News .::. Size~: 105.03 KB | May 28 23:46 |
| schestowitz | I know | May 28 23:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New blog post: The Enemy Of My Enemy Is My Enemy Or Why VP8 Is Important Even If It Came From Google http://bit.ly/doXBQn | May 28 23:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Fry, a torch carrier for #GNU and #FSF at one point, is spending too much time promoting Apple these days. http://ur1.ca/03zlg | May 28 23:47 | |
| Techrights | Title: The Enemy Of My Enemy Is My Enemy Or Why VP8 Is Important Even If It Came From Google « Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 90.68 KB | May 28 23:47 |
| Techrights | Title: No Comment& « The New Adventures of Stephen Fry .::. Size~: 37.1 KB | May 28 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | a troll buying them to sue Microsoft with? | May 28 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | that part would actually be funny | May 28 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's what they do after they win that lawsuit that's the troubling part | May 28 23:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see the comments | May 28 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | so schestowitz, what do you think Ubuntu is up to? | May 28 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | they're sending mixed signals | May 28 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | "We won't enter into patent deals" | May 28 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | then they embrace Mono | May 28 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | "We're not trying to be cheap Windows/Mac" | May 28 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | They proceed to become cheap Windows/Mac | May 28 23:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Yep + Openbox | May 28 23:53 | |
| DaemonFC | and where's your proof that they switched from Binghoo and stopped taking search bribes? | May 28 23:53 |
| cubezzz | some early 386's were "16 BIT S/W ONLY" | May 28 23:54 |
| cubezzz | they crashed on 32-bit software | May 28 23:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no | May 28 23:56 |
| schestowitz | They exit mono | May 28 23:56 |
| schestowitz | More vala | May 28 23:56 |
| schestowitz | In case you hadn't notice | May 28 23:57 |
| schestowitz | *ticed | May 28 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Their CTO know the Mono problems | May 28 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Don't troll Ubuntu, I like their role | May 28 23:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TimeTrex Benefits From #FreeSoftware http://sourceforge.net/blog/open-source-pays-off-for-timetrex/ | May 28 23:57 | |
| Techrights | Title: SourceForge.net: Open source pays off for TimeTrex .::. Size~: 24.89 KB | May 28 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: The SX is 16-bit | May 28 23:57 |
| schestowitz | They bring us some more Windowsheads | May 28 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | and has no co-processor | May 28 23:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.streetinsider.com/New+Coverage/Lazard+Capital+Initiates+Coverage+on+Red+Hat+(RHT)+with+a+Buy/5683356.html | May 28 23:58 |
| Techrights | Title: StreetInsider.com - Lazard Capital Initiates Coverage on Red Hat (RHT) with a Buy .::. Size~: 22.32 KB | May 28 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Novell's death is good for Red Hat | May 28 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Consolidation | May 28 23:59 |
| schestowitz | When Novell is sold we'll have an eparty | May 28 23:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free as in Speech Supported by #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/0453z http://ur1.ca/04540 | May 28 23:59 | |
| Techrights | Title: Openness, transparency, and community: The future of commenting on the web | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.57 KB | May 28 23:59 |
| Techrights | Title: What is "open source"? (And why should you care?) | Social Enterprise .::. Size~: 50.7 KB | May 28 23:59 |
| schestowitz | After 3.5 years of boycotting Novell daily | May 28 23:59 |
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