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schestowitzDaemonFC: heheJun 05 00:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Just watched Kidulthood, not that good, microwaved pizza.Jun 05 00:02
DaemonFCschestowitz, I didn't leave him anywhere to go to get away from themJun 05 00:02
DaemonFCvictory by overwhelming forceJun 05 00:03
DaemonFCftwJun 05 00:03
DaemonFCit's just like nuclear warfare, you have to have enough to take out your enemy's strike capability, and to ensure that enough of your own survive any first strike of theirsJun 05 00:04
DaemonFCarms race!!!Jun 05 00:04
schestowitzYou're just blowing air at each otherJun 05 00:07
schestowitzMaybe you'll find a way to cancel it outJun 05 00:07
DaemonFChttp://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6337/picture8eo.jpgJun 05 00:08
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I am the ultimate badassJun 05 00:08
DaemonFCand I have back upJun 05 00:08
DaemonFC:)Jun 05 00:08
DaemonFCLieutenant Commander JabbaJun 05 00:09
DaemonFChonorary commissionJun 05 00:10
schestowitzYou smoke?Jun 05 00:13
DaemonFCpipe tobacco cigars sometimesJun 05 00:13
schestowitzblechJun 05 00:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat ’s CEO Dismisses Software Patents and #Microsoft Uses #Tuxera to Spread Them to #Linux / #Android http://ur1.ca/05jnb #swpatsJun 05 00:19
TechrightsTitle: Red Hats CEO Dismisses Software Patents and Microsoft Uses Tuxera to Spread Them to Linux/Android | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.41 KBJun 05 00:19
DaemonFCschestowitz, when I called to cancel Starz and Shotime before the trial ran out, the guy on the phone triecd to get me to keep them and add HBO and Cinemax tooJun 05 00:23
DaemonFC:PJun 05 00:23
DaemonFCbut wasn't too persistent when I told him that I wanted all "free trials" canceled immediately with no ifs, ands, or butsJun 05 00:23
DaemonFC:PJun 05 00:23
DaemonFCI was all psyched up for an argument too :(Jun 05 00:23
DaemonFCComcast would have given me oneJun 05 00:23
*schestowitz hibernatesJun 05 00:24
DaemonFCschestowitz, Comcast isn't particularly malicious, more inept than anythingJun 05 00:24
DaemonFCI canceled my TV service entirely when I lived in Muncie and they not only forgot to shut it off, it started descrambling everything elseJun 05 00:25
DaemonFCincluding PPV porn channelsJun 05 00:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] RE: Ah, but did the United States GDP pas Britain's at the same time? http://disq.us/dov7mJun 05 00:25
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DaemonFCand I never got billed for any of itJun 05 00:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] RE: If it's so well known, why are you repeating it? http://disq.us/dov7uJun 05 00:26
TechrightsTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 FOUND .::. Size~: 0 KBJun 05 00:26
DaemonFCschestowitz, Is there a Firefox extension that kills those stupid CSS tricks?Jun 05 00:32
DaemonFClike you click a news story and something pops up nagging you to pay for a subscriptionJun 05 00:32
DaemonFC"Unfortunately, the diversion of hundreds of millions of dollars in USPTO fees over the years and inadequate funding levels have left the patent office with an unprecedented backlog of 1.2 million patent applications waiting to be examined."Jun 05 00:34
DaemonFCApprove them all and let the court system sort it out.Jun 05 00:34
DaemonFC:DJun 05 00:34
DaemonFCsend the 10 million lawsuits that come about to East TexasJun 05 00:35
DaemonFCa massive denial of service attack on the most patent-troll friendly state in the United StatesJun 05 00:35
DaemonFChttp://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/151320Jun 05 00:41
TechrightsTitle: Case Dismissed - Clips - South Park Studios .::. Size~: 111.15 KBJun 05 00:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] #ebz users - we KNOW you're spamming us for game points. Switch off the Twitter feed. Thanks ever so much. And stop fucking spamming.Jun 05 00:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Come on, anyone...who thinks #Microsoft #Kin will be a success? Anyone fancy standing up to be counted? #zune #failJun 05 00:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin I don't think anyone except us has even noticedJun 05 00:54
cubezzzRedhat 8.0 + source = 3.2 gigsJun 05 00:55
cubezzzI wonder if fc1 + source could fit on a DVDJun 05 00:56
cubezzzhuh, interestingJun 05 00:57
cubezzzbaudline comes with GPL source but you have to pay for itJun 05 00:58
cubezzzbut the binary is freely downloadableJun 05 00:58
DaemonFCcubezzz, I'm writing a postJun 05 01:00
DaemonFCabout why open standards, open source, and free software are not the same thingJun 05 01:01
DaemonFCcubezzz, "The term "open standard" is quite often a smoke screen that companies like Microsoft and Apple use to make you feel more comfortable using their products. It's much like a food label that says "Fat Free" but jacks up the sugar and carbohydrates. It might sound like health food if you just look at the claim on the surface, but inside it could actually be worse for you than the regular version, complete with fat."Jun 05 01:01
DaemonFCHow's this sound? :)Jun 05 01:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard you are probably right... I don't fancy a soap shaped phone, what a f'Kin stupid idea. #microsoft #kin #failJun 05 01:01
cubezzzwell, I always look at sugar contentJun 05 01:04
cubezzzfood has greatly improved over timeJun 05 01:04
cubezzzlook at a box of cookies from the 1930'sJun 05 01:05
cubezzzthere's no picture of the actual cookies, merely a cartoon drawing of a cookieJun 05 01:05
cubezzzI prefer to use the term FOSSJun 05 01:05
cubezzzFree Open Source SoftwareJun 05 01:06
cubezzzMicrosoft subverts open standards, I'd sayJun 05 01:06
cubezzztry compiling your bios? oops no you can'tJun 05 01:07
cubezzztry flashing your flashrom with a FOSS utility, oops can't do that eitherJun 05 01:08
cubezzzmost people don't care of course, but it's something to think aboutJun 05 01:08
cubezzzeven Linux programmers sometimes let that slideJun 05 01:10
cubezzzDaemonFC, I'll go with Perens definition for now:Jun 05 01:12
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard#Bruce_Perens.27_definitionJun 05 01:12
TechrightsTitle: Open standard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 88.26 KBJun 05 01:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Thibault Saunier rocking the PiTiVi with his work on effects support - http://bit.ly/cY6twk - keep up the great work, Thibault! #gnomeJun 05 01:19
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DaemonFCcubezzz, "Using data formats that are not Free, Open Source, and Open Standards is like begging to be the last guy in the room when the lights go out"Jun 05 01:34
DaemonFC:DJun 05 01:34
cubezzzhttp://mshiltonj.com/software_wars/current/Jun 05 01:40
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cubezzzthe skull and crossbones is a nice touch :)Jun 05 01:42
DaemonFCcubezzz, http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2010/06/05/why-open-standards-open-source-and-free-software-are-not-the-same-thing-and-never-will-be/Jun 05 01:43
TechrightsTitle: Why open standards, open source, and free software are not the same thing. (And never will be) « Ryans Blog .::. Size~: 50.32 KBJun 05 01:43
cubezzzTorvalds and I agree on a few thingsJun 05 01:47
cubezzzwe with like Fedora and don't like KDE 4+Jun 05 01:47
cubezzzwith -> bothJun 05 01:47
cubezzzit's not just me who liked KDE 3 betterJun 05 01:48
cubezzzit's a good idea to steer clear of wma, wmv files Jun 05 01:49
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DaemonFCMPEG Cartel is probably going to pull a MicrosoftJun 05 02:06
DaemonFCnever actually sue over VP8, but go around offering "protection"Jun 05 02:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Just finishing playing EDuke32...dug out my Duke Nukem disk from yesteryear and gave it a run. Great stuff! http://www.eduke32.com/ #linuxJun 05 02:21
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Toxics on strawberries? Tell the EPA to ban methyl iodide. http://bit.ly/b3r0NRJun 05 02:23
TechrightsTitle: No methyl iodide on our food .::. Size~: 16.28 KBJun 05 02:23
cubezzzthey're using Linux in Tajikistan :)Jun 05 02:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] .@secretlondon yeah. the #ebz users who *aren't* being spammers use a *second account* for the game.Jun 05 02:29
cubezzzno translation available from Microsoft or AppleJun 05 02:29
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DaemonFChttp://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af10Jun 05 04:04
DaemonFClolJun 05 04:04
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DaemonFChttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/chart-microsofts-performance-under-gates-vs-ballmer/35415Jun 05 04:31
TechrightsTitle: Chart: Microsoft's performance under Gates vs. Ballmer | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 120.81 KBJun 05 04:31
DaemonFChttp://www.timesnewsline.com/news/Ballmer-Unimpressed-with-Google-OS--compares-Macs-to-trucks-1275692620/Jun 05 04:32
TechrightsTitle: Ballmer Unimpressed with Google OS, compares Macs to trucks .::. Size~: 22.19 KBJun 05 04:32
DaemonFCBallmer is "impressed" by AndroidJun 05 04:32
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Mono is taking over.... even Towns! http://bit.ly/9BCFFYJun 05 05:23
TechrightsTitle: Mono is taking over& Even towns! .::. Size~: 23.31 KBJun 05 05:23
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ender2070hey did you guys see that town of mono?Jun 05 05:34
ender2070LOLJun 05 05:38
ender2070http://osnews.com/comments/23406Jun 05 05:39
TechrightsTitle: MeeGo: Meaningful or Mediocre? > Comments .::. Size~: 132.56 KBJun 05 05:39
ender2070Bnashee for Meego upsets the King of CanadaJun 05 05:39
ender2070ROFLMAOJun 05 05:39
ender2070well team mono is probably going to refer to me as such from now onJun 05 05:47
ender2070too bad its not that bad a titleJun 05 05:47
ender2070hahahhaJun 05 05:47
ender2070oh yeahJun 05 05:48
ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=704Jun 05 05:48
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schestowitz"Companies like #Novell or #Tuxera do more care about money than the freedom of their users who buying the products. It's sad." http://identi.ca/conversation/34690101#notice-34867790Jun 05 06:19
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oiaohmschestowitz: meego might be the only thing that can save Novell bottom line.Jun 05 06:26
ender2070nahJun 05 06:37
ender2070meego sucksJun 05 06:37
ender2070nobody even wanted moblin thats why they all mergedJun 05 06:38
ender2070plasma-netbook is where its all atJun 05 06:39
ender2070http://www.kde.org/workspaces/plasmanetbook/Jun 05 06:39
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oiaohmender2070: kde is not targeting phones and really small screens yetJun 05 06:40
ender2070runs on fedora, should on kubuntu tooJun 05 06:40
oiaohmThat is a huge market Larger than deskop.Jun 05 06:40
ender2070small screens I'd go androidJun 05 06:40
oiaohmPlasma Netbook I have on debian.Jun 05 06:40
schestowitzmeego is  intel's attempt to drag Nokia's off armJun 05 06:42
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schestowitzDaemonFC promoted RMS's "Free software" nowJun 05 06:43
schestowitz*motesJun 05 06:43
DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft is making life a little harder yet for XP users this summerJun 05 06:43
DaemonFCno more Windows Live suiteJun 05 06:43
DaemonFCMessenger includedJun 05 06:43
ender2070oh noesJun 05 06:43
ender2070let me keep my spywareJun 05 06:44
DaemonFC127.0.0.1 rad.msn.comJun 05 06:44
ender2070dont take my subliminal ads away!Jun 05 06:44
DaemonFCB-)Jun 05 06:44
DaemonFCWindows Live 2010 is apparently using WPF and a few other things that are only on Vista or 7Jun 05 06:45
ender2070coolJun 05 06:45
ender2070XP users need to stop using 9 year old obsolete softwareJun 05 06:46
DaemonFCyeah, 4 years after Microsoft introduces it, something uses itJun 05 06:46
DaemonFCand it's their own softwareJun 05 06:46
DaemonFC:)Jun 05 06:46
ender2070http://www.pidgin.imJun 05 06:46
TechrightsTitle: Pidgin, the universal chat client .::. Size~: 5.47 KBJun 05 06:46
ender2070fixed the msn file transfer bugJun 05 06:46
oiaohmNice fun to bring nightmaresJun 05 06:47
oiaohmI am happy Windows Live suite will be no more on windows xpJun 05 06:47
ender2070canadians are brainwashed into msn liveJun 05 06:47
ender2070i hate msnJun 05 06:47
DaemonFCyes, I saw this on NatGeoJun 05 06:47
DaemonFCthe MSN butterfly is actually one of those waspsJun 05 06:48
DaemonFConly instead of ants, it goes after CanadiansJun 05 06:48
DaemonFCstabs them in the head and leads them towards Windows LiveJun 05 06:48
DaemonFCwhere it lays eggs in their brainsJun 05 06:48
DaemonFCand makes more multi-colored butterfliesJun 05 06:49
DaemonFCthey live on maple syrup as larvae Jun 05 06:49
DaemonFCthat's why they go to CanadaJun 05 06:49
DaemonFCI was on acid while watching NatGeo thoughJun 05 06:49
DaemonFCso maybe that's not how it actually worksJun 05 06:49
DaemonFC:PJun 05 06:49
ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/images/town_of_mono.jpgJun 05 06:50
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oiaohmI am going to have fun with the windows live 2010 not working on XP.Jun 05 07:10
ender2070yeahJun 05 07:11
oiaohmI know quite a few who when outlook express end of life refused my advice and migrated to windows liveJun 05 07:13
oiaohmInstead of thurderbird as I advised.Jun 05 07:14
oiaohmBoy am I going to have fun.Jun 05 07:14
DaemonFCOutlook Express is not unsupportedJun 05 07:21
DaemonFCit's part of Windows XPJun 05 07:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Lies and #Apple Lies http://ur1.ca/05l9n How seniors from Microsoft and from Apple lie shamelessly and repeat the liesJun 05 07:28
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft Lies and Apple Lies | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.76 KBJun 05 07:28
oiaohmDaemonFC: Outlook Express by MS is techically a independant product.Jun 05 07:34
oiaohmJust happened to ship with XP DaemonFCJun 05 07:34
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oiaohmhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/WebM-project-changes-to-standard-open-source-licence-1016035.html  Nice its done schestowitz all the people upset about it not being GPL friendly can now be happy.Jun 05 07:48
TechrightsTitle: WebM project changes to standard open source licence - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.8 KBJun 05 07:48
schestowitzhttp://in.reuters.com/article/idINN0414883620100604Jun 05 08:02
TechrightsTitle: UPDATE 2-Oracle plans more firings after Sun acquisition| Reuters .::. Size~: 49.15 KBJun 05 08:02
schestowitz> They had told the Commission how the deal was going to save jobs. ThisJun 05 08:02
schestowitz> kind of story -- most layoffs in Europe and Asia -- isn't going toJun 05 08:02
schestowitz> enhance Oracle's credibility in Brussels. Just off the record - I don'tJun 05 08:02
schestowitz> comment on Oracle/Sun in public at this stage.Jun 05 08:02
schestowitz> Jun 05 08:02
schestowitz>  Jun 05 08:02
schestowitz> Jun 05 08:02
schestowitz> http://in.reuters.com/article/idINN0414883620100604Jun 05 08:02
schestowitz> Jun 05 08:02
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schestowitz>  Jun 05 08:02
schestowitz> Jun 05 08:02
schestowitz> UPDATE 2-Oracle plans more firings after Sun acquisitionJun 05 08:02
schestowitz> Jun 05 08:02
schestowitz> * Most layoffs will be in Europe, AsiaJun 05 08:02
schestowitz[07:48] <oiaohm> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/WebM-project-changes-to-standard-open-source-licence-1016035.html  Nice its done schestowitz all the people upset about it not being GPL friendly can now be happy.Jun 05 08:03
TechrightsTitle: WebM project changes to standard open source licence - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.8 KBJun 05 08:03
schestowitzyeah, I saw thatJun 05 08:03
oiaohmHeck its even freebsd friendly.Jun 05 08:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] It's 8AM and sunny here in the UK, and I can already smell barbeques! All nighters perhaps?Jun 05 08:20
MinceRgeekingsJun 05 08:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to SLAYradio.....saturday mornings...demoscene...breakfast soon.....whats better?Jun 05 08:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Woken at 7:30 by the bin lorry. Tapped wifey on the shoulder and said those sexy words she likes to hear."Shit! We didn't put the bins out!"Jun 05 08:40
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/business/inside-the-cloud/2010/06/cloud-tradeoffs-freedom-of-choice-vs-freedom-from-choice.arsJun 05 08:45
TechrightsTitle: Cloud tradeoffs: freedom of choice vs. freedom from choice .::. Size~: 35.93 KBJun 05 08:45
schestowitzSums up Apple vs Linux tooJun 05 08:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] @schestowitz Thanks for Follow Friday :)Jun 05 08:48
schestowitzhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/19/steve-jobs-emails-photos_n_539517.htmlJun 05 08:53
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oiaohmhttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/06/microsoft-kills-bing-cashback.arsJun 05 09:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @grifferz "I see 22 millionaires ruining a lawn" http://bit.ly/aqptc9Jun 05 09:06
TechrightsTitle:  Charlie Brooker's Screen burn: World Cup | Television & radio | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 119.05 KBJun 05 09:06
schestowitzhttp://techdirt.com/articles/20100603/0859019675.shtmlJun 05 09:12
TechrightsTitle: Police And Courts Regularly Abusing Wiretapping Laws To Arrest People For Filming Cops Misbehaving In Public Places | Techdirt .::. Size~: 45.21 KBJun 05 09:12
schestowitzoiaohm: yes, seen that tooJun 05 09:12
oiaohmCost cutting?  schestowitzJun 05 09:14
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schestowitzgood point, oiaohmJun 05 09:21
schestowitzI wasn't thinking og thatJun 05 09:22
schestowitzMicrosoft has been suffering a loss of almost $3 billion per year in this are of operationJun 05 09:22
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schestowitzI noticed that Microsoft is sevenwashing againJun 05 09:49
schestowitzNow with a Windows for ARMJun 05 09:49
schestowitzThey think that adding "7" to platform name will save MicrosoftJun 05 09:49
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4KSV8LoPc0Jun 05 10:04
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Twilight of Academic Freedom .::. Size~: 83.87 KBJun 05 10:04
schestowitzSerious issueJun 05 10:04
oiaohmschestowitz:  MS is scared.Jun 05 10:21
oiaohmThey want to hide the fact Windows 7 does not run on ARM as long as they can.Jun 05 10:22
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oiaohmTell me when else in history as the CE and the NT versions of the MS OS's had close to the same name.  schestowitzJun 05 10:32
oiaohmThen you notice a problem. schestowitzJun 05 10:32
schestowitz<oiaohm> They want to hide the fact Windows 7 does not run on ARM as long as they can.Jun 05 11:08
schestowitzThey could try to compile thatJun 05 11:09
schestowitzBut no 3rd party app compatJun 05 11:09
schestowitzThus the whole value is goneJun 05 11:09
schestowitzNo Office, nothing... not even FirefoxJun 05 11:09
schestowitzThey now work on getting 64-bit FirefoxJun 05 11:09
schestowitzoiaohm: http://techrights.org/2010/05/11/greenwashing-and-sevenwashing/Jun 05 11:10
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oiaohmEven if they rebuilt they would not have the required driver support.Jun 05 11:10
oiaohmArm is not like PC.Jun 05 11:11
Diablo-D3hehJun 05 11:16
Diablo-D3why would you run to run win7 on armJun 05 11:16
Diablo-D3it'd be easier to just, well, you know, apple the problemJun 05 11:16
Diablo-D3make a core OS that isnt a total pile of shit out of bsd'd code, and then throw platform specific shit on topJun 05 11:17
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Watched "Prince of persia - The sands of time" in #sathyam Princess tamina was hot ;)Jun 05 11:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Waitrose bottles of perry really aren't very nice at all. Lacking taste and bite. Disappointed.Jun 05 11:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Estou na #ESECSAL, assistindo a uma workshop de introducao ao #wordpress dada pelo @ricardojrsousaJun 05 11:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @DaHammerstein: EU will meet on Tue to decide probable opposition to Treaty for Blind. Send messages to EU member states!Jun 05 11:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: @cdibona thx for putting webm/vp8 under a better license. You guys rock!Jun 05 11:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @joaop: The latest Ubuntu with Wine is made in Portugal! http://38v1.sl.ptJun 05 11:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Just sent my first DMCA notification, re: notnews.blogdog.com. IMO this is not evil when someone is *blatantly ripping your shit off*.Jun 05 11:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] The website for my dentist mentions that they use digital x-rays which can be "sent to other clinicians via e-mail or diskette" How quaint.Jun 05 12:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] And second DMCA notification, to Google because they're making money from the use of AdSense on the ripped off pages. Fun fun fun!Jun 05 12:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Trying out the #free Doctor Who game from the BBC. I wonder if it will be Wine compliant? Lets hope so. A Doctor Who game to play on Linux!Jun 05 12:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] If the Doctor Who game does work on Linux, the feature will be on Openbytes today!....fingers crossed... #bbc #doctorwho #gameJun 05 12:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @ddevine: @borncrusader http://openinkpot.org/ Open Inkpot is a linux based eBook reader distro.Jun 05 12:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] How brave is the #IDF? Shooting unarmed peace activists in the back can earn an #IDF soldier a medal. #israel #freedomflotillaJun 05 13:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Anytime, Dr. Roy.Jun 05 13:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Geetas75 Remember 3700+ #Indians gassed by Union Carbide, when u vent fury over #BP //nearly 8500 deaths, 100K permanently injured #bhopalJun 05 13:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@BarackObama RT @Ach_Tortoise #US peace activist shot 5 times by #IDF: face, back of head, 2x leg & in back. http://bit.ly/bqiruf #flotillaJun 05 13:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] The BBC Doctor Who game, working on Linux (albeit via Wine) a great #free title and a great idea by the #bbc http://twitpic.com/1u4v61Jun 05 13:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @charlesschulz: OpenOffice.org has now 154 Million downloads ever since the release of the 3.0 ! http://ur1.ca/ev0s #OpenOffice #ooo #ODFJun 05 14:34
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oiaohmInteresting that on openoffice Linux is 3.3 percent.Jun 05 14:43
oiaohmNext question why.   Most distrobutions ship with openoffice and Linux file mirrors have it as well so not many would show up normally.Jun 05 14:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Olha olha... nao me digam que o prof. @arselio e' o pai do @joaopsmartins que fez a musica do Pi, tocada no meu casamento... #educarhoje :)Jun 05 14:46
schestowitzoiaohm: yeah :-)Jun 05 14:48
schestowitzWait for the spin vs market share of LinuxJun 05 14:48
schestowitzSame with FirefoxJun 05 14:48
schestowitzMost 'major' distros come with itJun 05 14:49
schestowitzSome have the weasel or other alternationsJun 05 14:49
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oiaohmI use iceweaselJun 05 14:56
oiaohmJust because I am too lazy todo the complex firefox install.Jun 05 14:56
oiaohmYes people underestimate how Lazy Linux people are.Jun 05 14:56
Diablo-D3I build firefox from trunkJun 05 14:58
oiaohmSo you still wound not turn up in download numbers.Jun 05 14:58
Diablo-D3I do not give a fuck about the download numbers gameJun 05 14:59
Diablo-D3they only make sense for windows/osx downloadsJun 05 14:59
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schestowitzeven repos may have cache, which messes up the numbersJun 05 15:20
schestowitzMirrors, intranet, deployment in clusters by copying (download numbers of Linux as poor indication of installations)Jun 05 15:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ECT: Financial Constraints "golden for #Linux since it is free. Not so golden for Microsoft." http://www.technewsworld.com/story/70139.htmlJun 05 15:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Frank Zappa- #GNU #Linux Connection Explained http://blog.devx.com/2010/06/frank-zappas-influence-on-linu-1.htmlJun 05 15:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Proprietary Software Has Liability Advantage Over GNU/Linux/Free Software http://ur1.ca/05n48Jun 05 15:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Hollywood a Threat to #GNU #Linux Users in #Canada http://ur1.ca/05n43Jun 05 15:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Linux has become increasingly popular in recent years", Becomes "Culture" http://ur1.ca/05n4k http://ur1.ca/05n4mJun 05 15:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Gains on Desktops, Proprietary O/S Share Eroding http://ur1.ca/05n4u http://ur1.ca/05n4vJun 05 15:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FogComputing -- Not Just Proprietary Software - a Barrier to #GNU #Linux Freedom http://ur1.ca/05n5bJun 05 15:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Audiocasts With #GNU #Linux : Linux Outlaws, Linux Link Tech Show http://ur1.ca/05n60 http://ur1.ca/05n62Jun 05 15:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google 's #GNU #Linux Distribution Free to Developers http://ur1.ca/05n6b http://ur1.ca/05cvzJun 05 15:43
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Yeeeeeeeee... I can't resist clicking that send button;Jun 05 15:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux 2.6.35 Gets Major Improvement/Fix http://ur1.ca/05n8u Linux.com Changes http://ur1.ca/05n8vJun 05 15:58
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Eruaranhi guysJun 05 15:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Graphics Stack Gets Improved Multi-Touch Support http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODMxMwJun 05 15:59
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Eruaranschestowitz: I had some logos and images and stuff ready but something wierd happened to my PC and I didn't have a backup... it wont boot at the moment...Jun 05 16:01
schestowitzCan you mount the home dir from a live CD?Jun 05 16:02
EruaranI will check in the morning... I've set up and installed everything on another PC so I can plug the hard drive in and see but I cant be stuffed right now... gonna hit the hey soonJun 05 16:04
Eruaranor hit the hayJun 05 16:04
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Eruaranit should still be there... no idea what is wrong with that PC.. ram and hdd test ok... hopefully data is not corruptedJun 05 16:09
Eruaranit all happened when i plugged in another hdd that was faulty... dunno how that screwed up my system but meh I'll look some more tomorrowJun 05 16:09
EruaranIm in vegetative modeJun 05 16:10
schestowitzEruaran: which distro?Jun 05 16:10
EruarankubuntuJun 05 16:10
Eruaranmy live kubuntu cd wont work on it either... no mouse or keyboard... strangeJun 05 16:11
schestowitzI always have backup scripts as shell Jun 05 16:11
schestowitzSo I can make a copy as long as I can get the CLIJun 05 16:11
schestowitzBut I never had my machine rendered unbootableJun 05 16:11
Eruaranits wierdJun 05 16:12
schestowitzExcept once, years ago when my hard-drive went dead (physical error)Jun 05 16:12
schestowitzI managed to scrape some stuff off non-dead sectors, then had to buy a new HDDJun 05 16:12
schestowitzEven in WIndows I never had unbootable PCJun 05 16:12
schestowitzWin95 and Win98Jun 05 16:12
schestowitzAlthough a few times I needed to do "Safe mode"Jun 05 16:13
Eruaranit posts, can test ram and hdd from a hirens cd and its all fine... can boot a mini-windows but it cant see the drive (ext4)... I'll plug it into this PC in the morningJun 05 16:13
schestowitzdo a fsckJun 05 16:13
schestowitzkubuntu does that forcibly periodicallyJun 05 16:13
EruaranyesJun 05 16:14
schestowitzunless you meant "tests" by thatJun 05 16:14
cubezzza hard drive can fail mechanically then it is impossible to bootJun 05 16:16
Eruaranits mechanically fineJun 05 16:17
Eruaranits physically okJun 05 16:17
schestowitzhow do you know?Jun 05 16:19
ender2070what do you guys think of google analyticsJun 05 16:19
schestowitzIt's like people who say, "I have no viruses"Jun 05 16:19
schestowitzYou ask, "how do you know"Jun 05 16:19
schestowitzS/he says, "cause Norton says I don't have any."Jun 05 16:19
cubezzzI've seen drives last 17 years and they still workJun 05 16:19
schestowitzender2070: it's a wormJun 05 16:19
ender2070norton isnt a virus scannerJun 05 16:19
ender2070it doesnt find anythingJun 05 16:19
schestowitzI call it spynalyticsJun 05 16:20
cubezzzI may start buying double everythingJun 05 16:20
ender2070http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report25.pdfJun 05 16:20
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cubezzzextra motherboard, extra cpu, extra memory, etc, etcJun 05 16:20
EruaranI tested it with Seatools and did a scan and repair with HDD RegeneratorJun 05 16:20
Eruaranno errorsJun 05 16:21
ender2070the best av for windows is also freewareJun 05 16:21
ender2070http://www.free-av.comJun 05 16:21
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cubezzzdoes seatools know about ext4 though?Jun 05 16:21
cubezzzthe partition could be borkedJun 05 16:21
Eruaranits not testing the filesystemJun 05 16:21
EruarantrueJun 05 16:21
ender2070eruaran - is there bad sectors?Jun 05 16:21
EruarannoneJun 05 16:21
ender2070oh okJun 05 16:21
Eruaranclean as a whistleJun 05 16:22
ender2070if there were I'd suggest remapping them with MHDDJun 05 16:22
EruaranMHDD is quite goodJun 05 16:22
ender2070its the bestJun 05 16:23
EruaranBut right now I have something much more important to doJun 05 16:23
EruaranI'm reading the War Of The Worlds comic on my comic strip widget ;)Jun 05 16:24
Eruaranthen going to bedJun 05 16:24
ender2070:)Jun 05 16:24
ender2070schestowitz - what would you use vs analytics?Jun 05 16:24
schestowitznothingJun 05 16:25
schestowitznot third party, for sureJun 05 16:25
ender2070apache doesnt track that stuffJun 05 16:25
schestowitzEruaran: let us know how it goesJun 05 16:26
Eruaranno problemJun 05 16:26
schestowitzYou should also back up your home dir, just in case you set up root againJun 05 16:26
ender2070I installed google analytics on my own site alreadyJun 05 16:26
schestowitzinclude ~/.[a-z]Jun 05 16:26
ender2070over the past few days its tracked over a thousand visitsJun 05 16:26
Eruaranyes I know... my bad for not backing upJun 05 16:26
schestowitzender2070: that's OK, I block itJun 05 16:26
ender2070thats what i figuredJun 05 16:26
schestowitzSo you won't see AdBlockers/NoScripters on your siteJun 05 16:27
ender2070people who have a problem with it will block itJun 05 16:27
schestowitzThe EU sites use itJun 05 16:27
schestowitzGovt.Jun 05 16:27
schestowitzIdiots.Jun 05 16:27
ender2070hey :PJun 05 16:27
schestowitzSending from govt. sites to the US data about citizensJun 05 16:27
schestowitzJS probesJun 05 16:27
schestowitzThey shouldn't even use it for studyingJun 05 16:28
schestowitzThey are a service, not a businessJun 05 16:28
ender2070yeahJun 05 16:28
ender2070i dont see why a government wouldnt be able to hire teams to do it internally eitherJun 05 16:28
ender2070they probably just use it to find out browser capabilities for future additionsJun 05 16:29
ender2070butJun 05 16:29
ender2070governments often use a bazooka to kill a flyJun 05 16:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Salix 13.1 is here!" http://www.salixos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=876&start=0Jun 05 16:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Release of #Pardus #GNU #Linux: 2009.2 (With #KDE SC 4.4.4) http://ur1.ca/05ne9 http://ur1.ca/05neaJun 05 16:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Fluffy #GNU #Linux Shows #KDE SC 4.5 With Advanced Themes http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/Jun 05 16:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Similarities in #GNU #Linux Distributions Show Signs of Convergence http://ur1.ca/05nek http://ur1.ca/05nelJun 05 16:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #RedHat Enterprise #GNU #Linux 6 http://gcn.com/articles/2010/06/04/preview-of-red-hat-6.aspxJun 05 16:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Foresees Big Profits http://ur1.ca/05nfq http://ur1.ca/05nfr http://ur1.ca/05nftJun 05 16:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora Scholarship, #Security Merits, and Derivative #Linpus http://ur1.ca/05ng1 http://ur1.ca/05ng2 http://ur1.ca/05ng4Jun 05 16:42
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] http://bit.ly/dacZiS How money can demotivate creative and intellectual works #Linux #FOSS (via .@branchplan)Jun 05 16:43
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DaemonFCI got a newsletter in the mail from the hospital I owe in the ballpark of $8,000 to. "Tee off to help Parkview". Apparently they're having a golf tournament to fund their slush fund for patients that can't pay. What they don't tell anyone of course is that first they use every brass knuckle bill collection method there is, including destorying your credit and harassing you at home and work for months before paying themseJun 05 16:45
DaemonFClves back out of the slush fund. Hardly charitable.Jun 05 16:45
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZ4Z6Zo3FkJun 05 16:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Pre-review of #Debian #GNU #Linux "Squeeze" http://cannonblast.net/christofoo/debian-squeeze-pre-reviewJun 05 16:52
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DaemonFCender2070, I noticed after disabling the stupid OEM boot logo, that my BIOS says it is activating the hyperdrive.Jun 05 16:54
DaemonFCDoes this mean that if it ever fails to get past the POST screen that the not having hyperdrive is not my fault?Jun 05 16:54
DaemonFCB-)Jun 05 16:54
DaemonFCschestowitz, I noticed that Microsoft is downplaying the importance of Service Pack 1 for Windows 7Jun 05 17:06
DaemonFCobviously a bid to get companies to not wait to pay MicrosoftJun 05 17:06
DaemonFCwhile Microsoft quietly fixes serious issues in the SP without making an issue of itJun 05 17:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.10 Alpha 1 is Out http://ur1.ca/05nlq http://ur1.ca/05nlr http://ur1.ca/05ejz http://ur1.ca/05nlsJun 05 17:10
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft will flag your copy of Windows as pirated if you install support for another languageJun 05 17:11
DaemonFC:)Jun 05 17:11
DaemonFChttp://www.mydigitallife.info/2010/05/29/windows-7-validated-as-non-genuine-on-unsupported-editions-with-mui-language-pack-installed/Jun 05 17:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Happy About ARM Support http://ur1.ca/05nm8 http://ur1.ca/05nm9 http://ur1.ca/0596eJun 05 17:12
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DaemonFCthat's really low, even for themJun 05 17:12
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I noticed while poking in the BIOS that my motherboard has a TPMJun 05 17:14
DaemonFCI could use Bitlocker if I had Windows 7 Ultimate :PJun 05 17:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.04 Rave, Ubuntu Advantage Service Introduced http://ur1.ca/05nmg http://ur1.ca/05nmh http://ur1.ca/05nmiJun 05 17:14
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DaemonFCof course Microsoft sells the police devices that instantly decrypt Bitlocker drivesJun 05 17:14
DaemonFCthat much is well knownJun 05 17:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #PeppermintOS ( #GNU / #Linux ) http://ur1.ca/05nmo http://ur1.ca/05nmrJun 05 17:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Parliament's JURI committee calls for EU patent court, EU software patents via central caselaw: http://ur1.ca/059ltJun 05 17:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Huge Growth Expected for Mobile #Linux , #Android Included http://ur1.ca/05now http://ur1.ca/05nox http://ur1.ca/05noyJun 05 17:29
TechrightsTitle: Growth of Linux-Based Smartphone Shipments Will Outstrip Growth of the Entire Smartphone Market in 2010, Says ABI Research | Business Wire .::. Size~: 64.54 KBJun 05 17:29
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TechrightsTitle: Linux Proving Disruptive In Smartphone Market -- Mobile Operating Systems -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 84.71 KBJun 05 17:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia Brings Latest #Linux Phones to #India http://ur1.ca/05nph http://ur1.ca/05npiJun 05 17:33
TechrightsTitle: Nokia launches Linux-based N900 in India - Gadget Special - Personal Tech - Tech - The Times of India .::. Size~: 58.63 KBJun 05 17:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Coverage of #Nokia 's #GNU #Linux Entrances Into Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/05npv http://ur1.ca/05npw http://ur1.ca/05npyJun 05 17:36
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DaemonFCWe're sorry, we noticed by checking a registry key that you can afford to pay up, so get to it sucka! Support Reference # PhUx0r j00Jun 05 17:49
DaemonFC:PJun 05 17:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] BBC Radio Uses #FreeSoftware http://www.computerworlduk.com/toolbox/open-source/applications/news/index.cfm?newsId=20538Jun 05 17:51
TechrightsTitle: BBC Radio uses open source to push out  live text service  - Applications - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 80.95 KBJun 05 17:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenOffice .org 3.2.1 is Released http://ur1.ca/05nt3 http://ur1.ca/05nt4 #odfJun 05 17:54
TechrightsTitle:  OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 was released today - GullFOSS .::. Size~: 56.67 KBJun 05 17:54
TechrightsTitle: OpenOffice 3.2.1 fixes bugs, updates logo - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.88 KBJun 05 17:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Software Freedom is More Important Than Open Source, 100% "Open Source" PC Arrives http://ur1.ca/05ntq http://ur1.ca/05ntrJun 05 17:57
TechrightsTitle: Why open standards, open source, and free software are not the same thing. (And never will be) « Ryans Blog .::. Size~: 50.17 KBJun 05 17:57
TechrightsTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | New Handheld Computer Is 100% Open Source .::. Size~: 149.16 KBJun 05 17:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: European Parliament's JURI committee calls for EU patent court, EU software patents via central caselaw: http://ur1.ca/059ltJun 05 18:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Government Can Cut Cost With #GNU #Linux as an Example http://ur1.ca/05nxxJun 05 18:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Web Programming Made Easier With Smokescreen, Deconstructing# Flash http://ur1.ca/05nyf http://ur1.ca/05nyi for flashheadsJun 05 18:19
TechrightsTitle: Smokescreen Project Promises Flash Without the Plug-in | Webmonkey | Wired.com .::. Size~: 48.68 KBJun 05 18:19
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cubezzzanyone remember where xmtr is from?Jun 05 18:21
cubezzzmtr-0.49-7.src.rpmJun 05 18:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Never noticed how #Apple Mac OS X could be so #confusing! ♺ @lopo: @ruiseabra: Do you see the diference of concept? http://is.gd/cDNnIJun 05 18:36
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cubezzztraceroute doesn't seem to do anything Jun 05 18:36
cubezzzah, I can ctrl-S curses programsJun 05 18:49
cubezzzthen clipboardJun 05 18:49
schestowitz[17:11] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Microsoft will flag your copy of Windows as pirated if you install support for another languageJun 05 18:51
schestowitzANd...?Jun 05 18:51
DaemonFCI just found that amusingJun 05 18:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab: European Parliament's JURI committee calls for EU patent court, EU software patents via central caselaw: http://ur1.ca/059ltJun 05 18:52
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/34772463#notice-34949850 "Ironically, this came out a few days after I thought similarly while listening to Penguin In Bondage. :-)"Jun 05 18:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @suniyo Now in India Dell offer low end laptops with Ubuntu pre installed instead of Windows7 home basic. >very encouraging!Jun 05 18:54
ender2070I noticed they stopped offering linux in canadaJun 05 18:55
cubezzzschestowitz, Linux supports TajikistanJun 05 18:55
ender2070dell sucksJun 05 18:55
cubezzzMicrosoft and Apple do not :)Jun 05 18:55
cubezzzeh?Jun 05 18:55
cubezzzreally?Jun 05 18:55
cubezzzthen they suckJun 05 18:55
cubezzz;-)Jun 05 18:55
ender2070yeah I was checking out what they had for netbooksJun 05 18:55
ender2070windows bsJun 05 18:55
cubezzzseriously why even look at dellJun 05 18:55
ender2070'we recommend winblows 7'Jun 05 18:55
schestowitzlowblows 7?Jun 05 18:56
cubezzzok, now tell me what is good about windowsJun 05 18:56
ender2070dell does financing thats whyJun 05 18:56
cubezzzone thingJun 05 18:56
cubezzzanythingJun 05 18:56
ender2070i get the best laptop specs wise they have and pay a small monthly payment for a few yearsJun 05 18:56
ender2070building my credit at the same timeJun 05 18:56
cubezzz2 words:Jun 05 18:57
cubezzzNanoNote  $99.00Jun 05 18:57
ender2070oh yeah?Jun 05 18:57
ender2070does it have a keyboard?Jun 05 18:57
cubezzzyes :)Jun 05 18:57
ender2070usd or cnd?Jun 05 18:57
cubezzzummmJun 05 18:58
cubezzzI assume it's USDJun 05 18:58
cubezzzstill that's not a big differenceJun 05 18:59
cubezzzbetter than Dell, that's for sureJun 05 18:59
cubezzzhttp://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/netbooks/296251:a-review-ben-nanonote-gets-small-with-embedded-linuxJun 05 19:02
cubezzzhttp://sharism.cc/products/ben-nanonote/Jun 05 19:03
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ender2070that thing is kind of slowJun 05 19:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Oggcasts Speak About #Novell ’s Imminent Sale http://ur1.ca/05o8n #LinuxOutlaws #TLLTSJun 05 19:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Back from city farm. Three little girls in pickly concert. Took three adults to herd them. Pint in front of me. Kkkiiillllll mmmeee.Jun 05 19:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Claims Patches for 34 Vulnerabilities Coming Tuesday, But There Are More http://ur1.ca/05obl #prJun 05 19:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @suniyo Desktop market share of #ubuntu may rise upto 5% in economies like India, it is free, easy to operate and not resource hungryJun 05 20:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I wonder how long it'll be before Google's server farm effectively turns into Deep ThoughtJun 05 20:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Finds Out That Bribing Doesn’t Work in the Long Term, Neither Against #Google Nor #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/05offJun 05 20:24
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MurlocHello people!Jun 05 20:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Inspired by #peppermint I'm using Prism/Mibbit to integrate a cloud IRC app on my desktop..Freenode no longer supports Mibbit :( #irc #prismJun 05 20:52
schestowitzHi, MurlocJun 05 20:57
schestowitzMurloc: I think you once offered to do a translation for us?Jun 05 20:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @shadeslayer im in india and i see #ubuntu entering the desktop market segment fast! the other day i saw ubuntu on HP desktops [..]Jun 05 20:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @rysiek according to w3c Linux marketshare is at ~4.5% already; so I would say 5% too low an estimate.Jun 05 20:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is renaming yet another product, adding the magic number “7″ as though brands alone will bring about success http://ur1.ca/05ol7Jun 05 21:10
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DaemonFChttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Download-Free-Windows-7-RTM-Bing-Theme-Trilogy-143866.shtmlJun 05 21:14
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DaemonFCyayJun 05 21:14
DaemonFCI'll wait for the movieJun 05 21:14
DaemonFCLord of the Bings: The Fellowship of the ThievesJun 05 21:15
DaemonFC"In a hole in the ground, there lived a fat sweaty Ballmer"Jun 05 21:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz Zune 7!Jun 05 21:16
DaemonFCwith hairy feet and a bald headJun 05 21:17
MurlocYeah Roy.Jun 05 21:17
MurlocI did.Jun 05 21:17
MurlocI can translate anything that you need to Serbian. :PJun 05 21:17
DaemonFChttp://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20006882-245.html?tag=mncol;postsJun 05 21:18
TechrightsTitle: Malware found lurking in apps for Windows Mobile | InSecurity Complex - CNET News .::. Size~: 144.85 KBJun 05 21:19
MurlocI was busy last two months. School,tests,company,life.Jun 05 21:19
MurlocBut from today, im officially on the holiday.Jun 05 21:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, You may find that amusingJun 05 21:20
MurlocMeh HTC without Android doesn't feel right.Jun 05 21:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TrendMicro Still a #Patent Bully, John Desmarais is Becoming a Massive Patent Troll http://ur1.ca/05omg #swpatsJun 05 21:22
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DaemonFCschestowitz, The scry thing about Windows isn't only what they fix or don't fixJun 05 21:23
DaemonFCit's that it's so expensive to upgrade an in-place set of Windows PCs, that companies use that version of Windows far past the point where MS is even releasing any fixes at allJun 05 21:23
DaemonFCa place I was working at in 2008 was still using Windows NT 4.0Jun 05 21:23
DaemonFCThe Dayton, OH public library was using Windows NT 4.0 when I was living there in 2002Jun 05 21:25
DaemonFCthe library here in town was using Windows 95 up until 2005Jun 05 21:25
MurlocI regret using the Windows 7. And even the Bizspark program.Jun 05 21:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard Surface 7? Does anyone remember Surface at all?Jun 05 21:25
DaemonFCthe upgrade pricing for Windows leaves a bunch of old versions sitting around that aren't getting any security patchesJun 05 21:26
DaemonFCoften hooked up to the internet on connections with lots of bandwidthJun 05 21:26
schestowitzMurloc: can you do this one for us? http://pastebin.com/SgEjfFFjJun 05 21:27
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schestowitzIt's for the front page :-)Jun 05 21:27
DaemonFCschestowitz, AMD has a dual core 3 Ghz CPU now at $58Jun 05 21:29
DaemonFCdamnJun 05 21:29
DaemonFC:PJun 05 21:29
schestowitzhttp://www.fsdaily.com/EndUser/Mandriva_Removes_More_of_Mono "Exaile replaced Banshee (which has gotten worse IMHO), Gnotes replaced Tomboy, and there were no other significant Mono apps for me. [...] I haven't yet done that on my Ubuntu 10.04 installation, but now that you reminded me, I'll get to it soon."Jun 05 21:30
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schestowitzDaemonFC: niceJun 05 21:30
schestowitzMine is dual 2.2Jun 05 21:30
DaemonFCquad core 3 Ghz hereJun 05 21:30
schestowitzVista 7 needs thatJun 05 21:32
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DaemonFCnahJun 05 21:33
DaemonFCI've ran it on much lessJun 05 21:33
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yuhongAnyway I have a new blog article, as I promised: http://yuhongbao.blogspot.com/2010/06/spamming-comments-with-automated.htmlJun 05 21:35
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yuhongWhy is getting rid of software patents the only choice, BTW?Jun 05 21:37
ender2070oh yayJun 05 21:37
ender2070lxer covered me againJun 05 21:37
ender2070http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/136765/index.htmlJun 05 21:38
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WireWulf:OJun 05 21:40
WireWulfbut i am he empirer of canunklandJun 05 21:40
WireWulf:PJun 05 21:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Here is a nice new cheat sheet for UNIX/Linux hackers: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/linux_commands.htmlJun 05 21:42
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schestowitzhttp://lgn.linux-hardcore.com/gish-goes-free-source/Jun 05 21:45
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schestowitzender2070: God shave the QueenJun 05 21:46
schestowitzhttp://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.phpJun 05 21:49
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] ♻ @schestowitz: Here is a nice new cheat sheet for UNIX/Linux hackers: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/linux_commands.htmlJun 05 21:53
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sebsebsebschestowitz: http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/06/firefox-ditches-the-dialog-box/Jun 05 21:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Helen Thomas: THANKYOU. #freedomflotillaJun 05 21:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Looks like Sydney airport is basically servicing Chinese. Australia the client state...Jun 05 21:58
schestowitzhttp://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.3.1Jun 05 21:59
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schestowitzI'm hooked on minirok thoughJun 05 21:59
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, I posted that link in the monringJun 05 22:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: ohJun 05 22:00
ender2070lolJun 05 22:00
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/06/04/alpha-1-ubuntu-10-10/Jun 05 22:00
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ender2070oooJun 05 22:02
schestowitzkno is the first non-deskop that's tempting to me: http://www.handlewithlinux.com/linux-dual-screen-e-reader-tabletJun 05 22:02
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ender2070Hans left a comment and so did GreyGeekJun 05 22:02
ender2070:)Jun 05 22:02
schestowitzdual screen, mobileJun 05 22:02
schestowitzBut what about mouse/keyboard?Jun 05 22:03
ender2070lolJun 05 22:05
ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=683&cpage=1#comment-601Jun 05 22:05
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schestowitzhttps://launchpad.net/quicklyJun 05 22:05
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schestowitzYou got mooned by mono assesJun 05 22:06
ender2070hans is funnyJun 05 22:06
schestowitzMono: “It’s like being the smartest kid with down-syndrome”Jun 05 22:07
schestowitzGood slogan for the projctJun 05 22:07
ender2070"Consequently, whatever you say against Mono is false unless you’re promoting it."Jun 05 22:07
ender2070lolJun 05 22:07
ender2070I had a chuckle at that one tooJun 05 22:07
schestowitzOh.Jun 05 22:08
schestowitzThere's  a kid with down-syndrome in thereJun 05 22:08
schestowitzComment #26Jun 05 22:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz Bob 7Jun 05 22:09
WireWulfwho has dwn-syndrome?Jun 05 22:09
ender2070I thought you were laughing at that oneJun 05 22:10
schestowitz"Since I simply don’t have anything sensible to say against the arguments you’ve posed here, there is nothing left for me to say that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Mono is so advanced that a mere human cannot understand what it is, why it was build and what use it could possibly have. Consequently, whatever you say against Mono is false unless you’re promoting it. You’re part of the Faux Community, in short Jun 05 22:10
schestowitzeverything that is wrong with people who call themselves FOSS proponents, because real FOSS proponents support Mono. BTW, I think you’re sexist too. Watch your words, pal. My father is a lawyer and this is slander!"Jun 05 22:10
ender2070hahahaJun 05 22:10
ender2070Hans +1Jun 05 22:10
schestowitzHow many people did he abuse with empty threat last year?Jun 05 22:11
schestowitzLike 4?Jun 05 22:11
ender2070at least 4Jun 05 22:11
schestowitzThis should bstreated like fal;se DMCAJun 05 22:11
schestowitzAnd someone put him in prison for itJun 05 22:11
ender2070the us court system lolJun 05 22:11
ender2070you can sue anyone for anythingJun 05 22:11
cubezzzthe first sentence doesn't make much senseJun 05 22:12
cubezzz"there is nothing left for me to say that you don’t know what you’re talking about"Jun 05 22:12
ender2070I knowJun 05 22:12
schestowitzcubezzz: see the originalJun 05 22:12
ender2070I know what he meant thoughJun 05 22:12
WireWulfmono is an inffecion Jun 05 22:13
cubezzz"you have no chance to survive make your time"Jun 05 22:13
cubezzzyeah, I just can't get excited either wayJun 05 22:14
WireWulfwhy is it when i see mono i think of the sickness?Jun 05 22:14
cubezzzmononucleosis?Jun 05 22:15
schestowitzhttp://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2010/06/02/goldman-was-a-predatory-cat-and-moodys-a-goat/Jun 05 22:15
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cubezzzok, and "FOSS proponents support Mono" seems like an odd thing to say alsoJun 05 22:15
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ender2070yeahJun 05 22:16
ender2070wirewulfJun 05 22:16
schestowitzender2070: did you see "Draw Mo Day"?Jun 05 22:16
ender2070did u see the town of monoJun 05 22:16
schestowitzIt's basically a response to threats of beheading as means of censorshipJun 05 22:16
ender2070schestowitz - yesJun 05 22:16
schestowitzSelf censorshipJun 05 22:16
ender2070you showed me the 6000Jun 05 22:16
schestowitzLet's do "an expose a Lefty day"Jun 05 22:16
ender2070ooooooooJun 05 22:16
schestowitzToo many places exposing him at the same timeJun 05 22:16
schestowitzFactuallyJun 05 22:16
ender2070theres plenty of factsJun 05 22:17
cubezzzit used to be KDE was bad, now GNOME seems to be becoming badJun 05 22:17
ender2070did you know he killed yellowtab/magnussoft zeta?Jun 05 22:17
schestowitzcubezzz: not badJun 05 22:18
schestowitzJust stagnantJun 05 22:18
schestowitzKind of like XPJun 05 22:18
ender2070zeta was a beos cloneJun 05 22:18
schestowitzNot just haiku?Jun 05 22:18
cubezzzwas it open source?Jun 05 22:18
ender2070based mostly on original beos source codeJun 05 22:18
cubezzzre: zetaJun 05 22:18
ender2070lefty supports haikuJun 05 22:19
ender2070i've seen a pic of him and the devsJun 05 22:19
ender2070he gave them permission to use some of the beos manuals iircJun 05 22:19
ender2070right now hes the person to talk to about BeOS source codeJun 05 22:19
ender2070ACCESS should open source it, considering they cant really do much with itJun 05 22:20
ender2070they dont offer any emulation or the OS itselfJun 05 22:20
cubezzzwhat would you say the top 3 closed source OSes are?Jun 05 22:20
ender2070like the palmos emulator in limoJun 05 22:20
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cubezzzWindows, Mac and...?Jun 05 22:21
ender2070proprietary unixJun 05 22:22
ender2070one of the server distrosJun 05 22:22
DaemonFCBeOS!!!!Jun 05 22:22
DaemonFCyay!!!Jun 05 22:22
ender2070nahJun 05 22:22
cubezzzdoes anyone use BeOS? :)Jun 05 22:22
ender2070OS/2 would have bigger numbers than BeOSJun 05 22:22
ender2070probably OS/2Jun 05 22:23
ender2070if hes talking desktopJun 05 22:23
cubezzzAIX maybeJun 05 22:23
WireWulfAIX is still widely used :PJun 05 22:23
DaemonFChttp://www.haiku-os.org/Jun 05 22:23
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WireWulfOS/2 is up to be opensorcedJun 05 22:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Excellent video - a must watch for everyone - "Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates usJun 05 22:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Excellent video - a must watch for everyone - "Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us http://bit.ly/bc2T3H #fossJun 05 22:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Here is ogg version - http://tinyvid.tv/show/15vqa8mpsogk7 RT: @nsisodiya: Excellent video - a must watch for everyone - "Drive: The #fossJun 05 22:27
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schestowitz[22:22] <ender2070> OS/2 would have bigger numbers than BeOSJun 05 22:39
schestowitzTechrights gets some hits from bothJun 05 22:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Aquaria (Game) Becomes #FreeSoftware , Maxi Mini Golf Released http://ur1.ca/05owa http://ur1.ca/05owbJun 05 22:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Opera (Proprietary) Makes #Linux and #BSD Refinements http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2010/06/03/unix-like-bugfixesJun 05 22:42
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Agent-SmithGood evening foloksJun 05 22:47
Agent-SmithFolks I meanJun 05 22:47
Agent-SmithHey peopleJun 05 22:48
Agent-SmithGot an interesting articleJun 05 22:48
Agent-Smithhttp://www.pwnage.ca/?p=683Jun 05 22:48
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Agent-SmithEheheheheh... ;-)Jun 05 22:48
schestowitzAgent-Smith: that's ender2070Jun 05 22:49
schestowitzHe's hereJun 05 22:49
Agent-SmithRead thisJun 05 22:50
Agent-SmithThe only thing historic about President Obama’s historic inauguration on Silverlight is that it’s the first time the public caught his lies about open technologies.Jun 05 22:50
schestowitzI haveJun 05 22:50
Agent-SmithAnd now, pres. Obama ??? Can we still ???Jun 05 22:51
Agent-Smith;-)Jun 05 22:51
WireWulfheh Obama is a jokeJun 05 22:53
Agent-SmithVery humourous articleJun 05 22:53
WireWulfthe black american mao Jun 05 22:53
Agent-SmithYou seeJun 05 22:53
Agent-SmithObama was awarded with a peace nobel prizeJun 05 22:54
Agent-SmithWhat did he do the next day ???Jun 05 22:54
WireWulfso what that just proves he is a socialistJun 05 22:54
Agent-SmithSent 300 k soldiers to AfganhistahnJun 05 22:54
Agent-SmithAhahahahahahahah...Jun 05 22:54
Agent-SmithWhat a peace lover...Jun 05 22:54
WireWulfgive the money to only NLACK school funds toJun 05 22:55
WireWulfso he is the most racist person i have seenJun 05 22:55
Agent-SmithHe should notJun 05 22:55
Agent-SmithAfter allJun 05 22:55
Agent-SmithHe's 50% white and 50% blackJun 05 22:55
Agent-SmithSo, he should look for the blending of the etchinicitiesJun 05 22:56
WireWulfhe doesntJun 05 22:56
Agent-SmithNot for their constant fights Jun 05 22:56
WireWulfhe profers muslims to jewsJun 05 22:57
Agent-SmithI guess notJun 05 22:57
Agent-SmithIn the recent boat imbroglio in GazaJun 05 22:57
Agent-SmithHe did not say a word against IsraelJun 05 22:57
DaemonFCwhoa, did I just tune into AM 530?Jun 05 22:57
DaemonFCthe Rush Limbaugh showJun 05 22:57
WireWulfi think the jewish ppl was right in the broading of the boat they took overJun 05 22:58
Agent-SmithWhile the rest of the world condemned the attackJun 05 22:58
Agent-SmithWell, both sides were wrongJun 05 22:58
WireWulfand yeah obama is being negtive to the jews on the matter toJun 05 22:58
DaemonFCshortwave radio has gotten boringJun 05 22:59
WireWulfthe jews would never had got the chance to be wrong if the "humanitrens" never broke the blockaidJun 05 22:59
Agent-SmithThe peace sailors should have not tossed marbles in the israeli commandos. And the israeli commandos should not have responded with uzi'sJun 05 22:59
Agent-Smith;-)Jun 05 23:00
WireWulfboth sodes should learn to get alongJun 05 23:00
Agent-SmithIndeedJun 05 23:00
WireWulfmuslim need to stop bombing jewsJun 05 23:00
DaemonFCit's pretty stupid to threaten armed soldiers with PVC pipeJun 05 23:00
DaemonFCI say the world is better offJun 05 23:00
ender2070I still think http://www.open-pandora.org/ will goodJun 05 23:01
WireWulfjews need to let muslim have some rightsJun 05 23:01
ender2070compared to the nanonoteJun 05 23:01
WireWulfbtw obama doesnt have to say it was wrong the media does that for himJun 05 23:02
DaemonFCWireWulf, The only stable-ish countries have officially secular governmentsJun 05 23:02
Agent-SmithYup, muslims should stop tossing marbles on jews, and jews should stop firing missiles on muslims...Jun 05 23:02
WireWulfAgent-Smith: sadly most deaths are on the muslim hands thereJun 05 23:02
WireWulfthey go into cities of innocent ppl and blow them upJun 05 23:03
DaemonFCUS law forbids any company from refusing to do business with IsraelJun 05 23:03
DaemonFCdon't know if anyone was aware of thatJun 05 23:03
WireWulfiran has told the jewish and american they dont car what we sayJun 05 23:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, You should tell Stallman thatJun 05 23:03
DaemonFCnext time he goes on a tear about CaterpillarJun 05 23:04
ender2070they dont like the fact that these people wont sell themselves out to the world bankJun 05 23:04
DaemonFCthey couldn't refuse an order from Israel if they wanted toJun 05 23:04
ender2070iraq didnt acknowledge the world bankJun 05 23:04
WireWulfmiddle east is as much owned by the world bank as the rest of the worldJun 05 23:04
DaemonFCWireWulf, creditJun 05 23:05
DaemonFCworld runs on creditJun 05 23:05
WireWulfiran is basicly nazi (i think they call it bath or sumthing)Jun 05 23:05
DaemonFCstuff that doesn't existJun 05 23:05
DaemonFCimaginary conceptsJun 05 23:05
ender2070yesJun 05 23:05
ender2070and you are collateral on itJun 05 23:05
DaemonFCender2070, speaking of creditJun 05 23:06
Agent-SmithThe thing is, if muslims and jews don't get along and learn to live in peaceJun 05 23:06
DaemonFCyou notice those 12 month deferred interest scams?Jun 05 23:06
DaemonFCApple likes to use themJun 05 23:06
WireWulfwe are nothing more then mindless slaves on a path to total painJun 05 23:06
DaemonFCto make their stuff seem affordableJun 05 23:06
Agent-SmithThe whole world will suffer, as it suffers todayJun 05 23:06
ender2070you should look into leap years and how the banks profit off itJun 05 23:06
ender2070same with fractional mathJun 05 23:06
ender2070some people say pi is 3.14Jun 05 23:06
DaemonFC"Just $39 a month gets you this Mac MiniJun 05 23:07
DaemonFC(*$39 a month for the next 10 years)Jun 05 23:07
WireWulfi use the 22/7 version of pi myselfJun 05 23:07
ender2070yeah I had a mathmetician show me the 22/7 versionJun 05 23:07
Agent-SmithNo, thanks, I prefer a Hackintosh (in fact, I prefer Linux... ;-) )Jun 05 23:07
DaemonFC3.14159Jun 05 23:07
WireWulfbut then i am a stickler for closenessJun 05 23:07
ender2070if you round it its closer to 3.13Jun 05 23:07
ender2070right?Jun 05 23:08
DaemonFCender2070, There used to be Pi as defined by Indiana law.Jun 05 23:08
DaemonFC3.14Jun 05 23:08
DaemonFCit was repealedJun 05 23:08
WireWulfender2070: no if you round it it is 3.24Jun 05 23:08
WireWulf*3.14Jun 05 23:08
WireWulfthe one would drop to zero and the 4 remainsJun 05 23:09
ender2070oh I think its the calculator that does 22/7 wrong right?Jun 05 23:09
ender2070it goes on foreverJun 05 23:09
WireWulfyeah you have to do 22/7 by handJun 05 23:09
WireWulfyupJun 05 23:09
DaemonFCender2070, First it was the law that it was 3.2 in IndianaJun 05 23:09
DaemonFChttp://blog.silive.com/sinotebook/2009/03/march_14_is_pi_day.htmlJun 05 23:09
TechrightsTitle: March 14 is Pi Day (3.14 ... get it?) But Indiana once begged to differ | SILive.com .::. Size~: 46.82 KBJun 05 23:10
DaemonFCIndiana lawmakers try to change a universal cosntant, fail, and then try to change it again and still get it wrongJun 05 23:10
DaemonFC:DJun 05 23:10
WireWulflolJun 05 23:10
WireWulfuniveraal law gives use what pi isJun 05 23:10
WireWulfnot a govermentJun 05 23:10
WireWulfmath is full of laws Jun 05 23:11
DaemonFC3.1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510Jun 05 23:11
DaemonFC5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679 8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128 4811174502 8410270193 8521105559 6446229489 5493038196 4428810975 6659334461 2847564823 3786783165 2712019091 4564856692 3460348610 4543266482 1339360726 0249141273 7245870066 0631558817 4881520920 9628292540 9171536436 7892590360 0113305305 4882046652 1384146951 9415116094 3305727036 5759591953 0921861173 819326Jun 05 23:11
DaemonFC1179 3105118548 0744623799 6274956735 1885752724 8912279381 8301194912 9833673362 4406566430 8602139494 6395224737 1907021798 6094370277 0539217176 2931767523 8467481846 7669405132 0005681271 4526356082 7785771342 7577896091 7363717872 1468440901 2249534301 4654958537 1050792279 6892589235 4201995611 2129021960 8640344181 5981362977 4771309960 5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859 5024459455 3469083026 4Jun 05 23:11
WireWulfnone of which man made upJun 05 23:11
ender2070I love mathJun 05 23:11
DaemonFC252230825 3344685035 2619311881 7101000313 7838752886 5875332083 8142061717 7669147303 5982534904 2875546873 1159562863 8823537875 9375195778 1857780532 1712268066 1300192787 6611195909 2164201989 3809525720 1065485863 2788659361 5338182796 8230301952 0353018529 6899577362 2599413891 2497217752 8347913151 5574857242 4541506959Jun 05 23:11
DaemonFCB-)Jun 05 23:11
ender2070I just suck at itJun 05 23:11
DaemonFCto 1120 digitsJun 05 23:11
ender2070I hated it as a kidJun 05 23:11
WireWulfDaemonFC: 22/7 is easierJun 05 23:11
ender2070the same math guy who showed me 22/7 also explained the banks rip people off fractions of cents all the timeJun 05 23:13
WireWulfmmhmmJun 05 23:13
WireWulfbanks yes the 3.14 systemJun 05 23:13
WireWulfwitch 9 time outta 10 can give a different number then the real numberJun 05 23:13
DaemonFCdon't look at me, I barely passed high school level mathJun 05 23:14
ender2070ill tell you though, my grandma pays the real amountsJun 05 23:14
WireWulfgas stations use a 1/x tax at the end of there numbers to trick you into thinking it is cheapperJun 05 23:14
ender2070shes a real stickler with math and shes cheapJun 05 23:14
WireWulfsameJun 05 23:14
WireWulfi do alot of culations in my head a minJun 05 23:15
WireWulfatm working on the lowest amount of money to upgrade my computer hardwareJun 05 23:15
WireWulfto a highen standeredJun 05 23:15
DaemonFChttp://www.subidiom.com/pi/pi_10k.txtJun 05 23:15
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WireWulfso far comes up to 2,000-4,000 range Jun 05 23:16
WireWulfmulipal computers also :PJun 05 23:17
ender2070I have a system I like regarding upgradesJun 05 23:17
ender2070ill have my main beast of a system that I try to keep up to date with  the latestJun 05 23:17
ender2070when i replace parts they go into my serverJun 05 23:18
WireWulfwail this system is abit old and in bad shapeJun 05 23:18
WireWulfso am thinkin abou a new system its selfJun 05 23:18
ender2070it helps if you work at computer store that sells the best stuff at the lowest pricesJun 05 23:18
ender2070(they buy from the states)Jun 05 23:19
WireWulfwho you work for?Jun 05 23:19
ender2070i used to work for one that didJun 05 23:19
ender2070canada computersJun 05 23:19
WireWulfbestbuy isnt new anuff for me, tigerdirect is getting to costly, newegg doesnt have what i want,and the others are a jokeJun 05 23:20
ender2070newegg is niceJun 05 23:20
WireWulfnewegg does have what i want/needJun 05 23:20
ender2070prices are similarJun 05 23:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] LOL RT: @skbohra: http://उदाहरण.परीक्षा via @lifeethJun 05 23:20
ender2070bestbuy is a jokeJun 05 23:20
ender2070tigerdirect is shittyJun 05 23:20
ender2070they still sell ecs board combosJun 05 23:21
WireWulftiigerdirect use tah be pretty goodJun 05 23:21
ender2070not imoJun 05 23:21
ender2070compared to what I can getJun 05 23:21
ender2070at least in CanadaJun 05 23:21
WireWulfwell i dont take i am going to get a new caseJun 05 23:21
ender2070working at cc got me an intel q6600, mobo and os for $200Jun 05 23:22
WireWulfjust a mobo and cpu with some pci/pcie cardsJun 05 23:22
ender2070i sold the os and profittedJun 05 23:22
WireWulfnot badJun 05 23:22
ender2070thenJun 05 23:22
WireWulfi got my intel t3000 for $100Jun 05 23:23
ender2070i got an i7 920 last summer with vista, (they shipping me a seperate win7 license after release too) $160 plus shippingJun 05 23:23
WireWulf^laptopJun 05 23:23
ender2070shipped*Jun 05 23:23
WireWulfi am thinking of going to amdJun 05 23:23
ender2070I profitted off the vista licenseJun 05 23:23
ender2070amd is nice if you're on a budgetJun 05 23:24
ender2070not as fast as intel but 3x cheaperJun 05 23:24
WireWulfamd is rated by gamers as better then intelJun 05 23:24
ender2070they both one up each other in speed all the timeJun 05 23:24
ender2070you'll spend less money with the amdJun 05 23:24
WireWulfand the clockspeed really has no direct effect on profromaceJun 05 23:25
ender2070if you do have the money to burn I'd say intelJun 05 23:25
WireWulfhowever flopspeed and range doJun 05 23:25
ender2070intel has tripple channel ddr3Jun 05 23:25
ender2070right nwoJun 05 23:25
ender2070i think that makes a huge differenceJun 05 23:25
Agent-SmithHey folksJun 05 23:26
Agent-SmithI'm goingJun 05 23:26
WireWulfsee ya Agent-Smith Jun 05 23:26
Agent-SmithA good night for you allJun 05 23:26
Agent-SmithByeJun 05 23:26
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WireWulfender2070: k11 cpus will be drr3 complent and have 8 coresJun 05 23:26
ender20708 cores?Jun 05 23:26
ender2070are u sureJun 05 23:26
ender2070i thought it was 12Jun 05 23:26
WireWulfruffly the same price for a good 4 core inel cpuJun 05 23:26
ender2070or 6Jun 05 23:27
ender2070they released 6 core opertonsJun 05 23:27
WireWulfamd has been saying its next processer will be 8Jun 05 23:27
MinceRand your apps will use 2 of them :>Jun 05 23:27
WireWulfMinceR: i run my own custom linuxs :PJun 05 23:27
ender2070mincer - and your threaded os will distrubute the apps among the coresJun 05 23:27
ender2070:)Jun 05 23:28
ender2070even windows does thisJun 05 23:28
WireWulftho it is wrong of intel to say they made the frist 6 core cpuJun 05 23:28
ender2070amd and intel are also both working on technology that will fake a single core and use them all for apps not awareJun 05 23:28
ender2070essentiallyJun 05 23:29
WireWulfPCIe shars off the CPU like PCI doesJun 05 23:29
ender2070by the time its out I think people will be writing multi core anywaysJun 05 23:29
DaemonFC"Another factor at play when it comes to the Windows XP’s Terminator-like survival ability"Jun 05 23:29
ender2070lolJun 05 23:29
DaemonFCit's on PCP and wearing body armorJun 05 23:29
WireWulfso one or two core can crove the shares on aa heavy video cardJun 05 23:29
DaemonFCand I'll be dead in 5 minutesJun 05 23:29
ender2070google go has concurrency built inJun 05 23:29
DaemonFC:PJun 05 23:29
ender2070great languageJun 05 23:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @craigmoliver I want to go see #RobinHood but #RottenTomatoes gave it 44% http://goo.gl/q6J7 // very low expectations seem in orderJun 05 23:30
TechrightsTitle: Robin Hood Movie Reviews, Pictures - Rotten Tomatoes .::. Size~: 165.97 KBJun 05 23:30
WireWulfgoogle will wtight its own programing language based on C on dayJun 05 23:31
WireWulfit will be called too fucking eayJun 05 23:31
ender2070dudeJun 05 23:31
WireWulf*easyJun 05 23:31
ender2070they DIDJun 05 23:31
ender2070http://www.golang.orgJun 05 23:31
TechrightsTitle: The Go Programming Language .::. Size~: 8.28 KBJun 05 23:31
ender2070its C with garbage collection and some easier syntaxJun 05 23:32
WireWulfnice never i have to have Go compiler xDJun 05 23:32
ender2070the go compiler makes native codeJun 05 23:32
ender2070you dont need it installed to run the appsJun 05 23:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop Environments a Changed Game, Examples of #GNOME Desktop Themes http://ur1.ca/05b1s http://ur1.ca/05p1tJun 05 23:32
TechrightsTitle: The Death of the Desktop (a video panel discussion) / Marcel Gagné: Orbiting Planet *buntu / Blogs / Online / Home - Ubuntu User .::. Size~: 58.91 KBJun 05 23:32
TechrightsTitle: Equinox Ubuntu Themes  Awesome! .::. Size~: 50.56 KBJun 05 23:32
*WireWulf adds Go with colorFiSH gcc and that java compiler taht never worksJun 05 23:32
ender2070gcc has go support coming tooJun 05 23:33
ender2070gcc-goJun 05 23:33
*WireWulf needs a working java compiler :PJun 05 23:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE SC Has Spanish Event and PIM Sprint http://ur1.ca/05p1u http://ur1.ca/05p1wJun 05 23:33
TechrightsTitle: Akademy-es 2010 Big Success | KDE.news .::. Size~: 14.51 KBJun 05 23:33
TechrightsTitle: KDE PIM Stabilization Sprint | KDE.news .::. Size~: 12.08 KBJun 05 23:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #US refusal to acknowledge #Israel crimes invalidates its foreign policy. #Israel's delegitimisation spreads to #Obama, #Harper. #cdnpoliJun 05 23:34
ender2070gcj is coming nicelyJun 05 23:35
ender2070openjdk is helping indirectlyJun 05 23:35
DaemonFChttp://www.mydigitallife.info/2010/05/05/unlimited-rearm-windows-7-for-forever-usage-without-crack-with-infiniterearm4-or-windows7-rearmtask4/Jun 05 23:37
TechrightsTitle: Unlimited Rearm Windows 7 for Forever Usage without Crack with InfiniteRearm4 or Windows7 RearmTask4  »  My Digital Life .::. Size~: 63.29 KBJun 05 23:37
*DaemonFC head desksJun 05 23:37
ender2070just fucking switch off windowsJun 05 23:38
ender2070lolJun 05 23:38
DaemonFCwhy do they spill this stuff right before a Service Pack?Jun 05 23:38
DaemonFCso Microsoft can be sure to kill it in the SP?Jun 05 23:38
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ender2070likelyJun 05 23:40
schestowitzender2070 will like this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/04/swine-flu-experts-big-pharmaceuticaleJun 05 23:41
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schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/04/swine-flu-experts-big-pharmaceuticalJun 05 23:42
TechrightsTitle:  Report condemns swine flu experts' ties to big pharma | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 185.53 KBJun 05 23:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Interview with Paid #KDE SC Developer, #Qt Improves Openness in Governance http://ur1.ca/05p3k http://ur1.ca/05946Jun 05 23:43
TechrightsTitle: Interview with Stephen Kelly | KDE.news .::. Size~: 16.43 KBJun 05 23:43
TechrightsTitle: Qt Labs Blogs » Qt and Open Governance .::. Size~: 59.87 KBJun 05 23:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at New #GNU #Linux Distro (Qubes) and Review of #YlmF GNU/Linux OS http://ur1.ca/05p3l http://ur1.ca/05p3oJun 05 23:45
TechrightsTitle: Dark Reading | Non-Working URL .::. Size~: 31.91 KBJun 05 23:45
TechrightsTitle:       YlmF OS - Ni Hao!     .::. Size~: 16.62 KBJun 05 23:45
ender2070yeah lolJun 05 23:46
ender2070I knew it already thoughJun 05 23:46
schestowitzI had a chat about it for TVJun 05 23:51
*WireWulf is now known as notherewulfJun 05 23:51
*notherewulf is now known as not-here-wulfJun 05 23:51
schestowitzanyway, I'm feeling drowsy. back in the morning..Jun 05 23:51
*not-here-wulf is now known as Wulf-is-not-hereJun 05 23:51

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