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DaemonFChmmm, Bing in the speed dial is still annoyingJun 27 00:24
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DaemonFCit manages to catch you off guard when you're just fishing for a search boxJun 27 00:25
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DaemonFChmmm, seems JKDefrag ditched the GPLJun 27 00:54
DaemonFCand is now proprietary freewareJun 27 00:55
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgEMmiW42LQJun 27 00:55
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- George4title Stuck In Mexico City .::. Size~: 101.84 KBJun 27 00:55
schestowitzWowJun 27 00:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: the sheer level of government corruption in Mexico would give Satan a hard-onJun 27 00:56
DaemonFCyou just have no ideaJun 27 00:56
DaemonFChalf the government is at war with the drug lords, and the other half of their government is owned by the drug lordsJun 27 00:56
DaemonFCanything state and lower is questionableJun 27 00:56
DaemonFCtheir federal government is the least corrupt out of the entire stackJun 27 00:57
DaemonFCthe drug cartels like to bribe state officials of both the US and Mexican border statesJun 27 00:57
DaemonFCto help them get their drugs acrossJun 27 00:57
DaemonFCCalderon even went so far as to say that US state officials are being bribed to let the stuff flow across our bordersJun 27 00:58
DaemonFCMexico City is a federal district, schestowitzJun 27 00:59
DaemonFClike Washington D.C. isJun 27 00:59
DaemonFCit's not a part of any stateJun 27 00:59
DaemonFCyou're actually probably safer there than in the states that surround itJun 27 01:00
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 01:00
DaemonFCschestowitz: it's bad for tourism if the tourists regularly get kidnapped and have their head mailed back to their familyJun 27 01:01
DaemonFCso places like Cancun have US-style laws and lots of policeJun 27 01:01
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DaemonFCnothing at all like the Mexico that the actual Mexicans live inJun 27 01:02
DaemonFCit's just for rich foreign touristsJun 27 01:02
DaemonFC:DJun 27 01:02
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MexicaliJun 27 01:03
TechrightsTitle: Mexicali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 136.31 KBJun 27 01:03
DaemonFCschestowitz: That's where I've beenJun 27 01:03
DaemonFCjust for several monthsJun 27 01:04
DaemonFCMexicali isn't too ran downJun 27 01:04
DaemonFCit's one of the few places in Mexico that actually benefits a lot from NAFTAJun 27 01:05
DaemonFCschestowitz: The funny thing about NAFTA is that every day people in all three countries hate itJun 27 01:06
DaemonFCand they're all absolutely right to hate itJun 27 01:06
DaemonFCit was never meant to benefit anyone other than multinational companies and the upper management at those companiesJun 27 01:06
DaemonFCit hasn't made Mexico more like the USJun 27 01:07
DaemonFCit's made the US a lot more like MexicoJun 27 01:07
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4CFc_OynkJun 27 01:08
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Creationist Stupidity, Misconceptions and Outright Lies Part IX .::. Size~: 100.35 KBJun 27 01:08
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://erictric.com/2010/06/25/gmail-microsoft-word-documents-can-now-be-viewed-in-a-browser/  "Google announced today on the Official Gmail Blog that Microsoft Word documents can now be easily viewed in a browser when received as attachments in Gmail. Previously, users would had to download and open .doc and .docx files with the Microsoft Word desktop application in order to view them. Now, individuals will be able to sJun 27 01:27
TechrightsTitle: Gmail: Microsoft Word Documents Can Now Be Viewed in A Browser .::. Size~: 23.88 KBJun 27 01:27
Chips_B_MalroyLeave it to Google to do everything to make the lockin of M$ worthless.Jun 27 01:29
Chips_B_MalroyGreat move on their part.Jun 27 01:29
Chips_B_Malroyallows Gmail users to conveniently open PDF, TIFF, and Power Point files."Jun 27 01:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Supporters of #Techrights can now join the new identica group: http://identi.ca/group/techrightsJun 27 01:32
TechrightsTitle: techrights group - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.98 KBJun 27 01:32
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://news.spong.com/article/21678/Xbox-360-S-Exhibits-Overheating-Problems-Red-Dot-of-DeathJun 27 01:36
TechrightsTitle: Xbox 360 S Exhibits Overheating Problems, "Red Dot of Death" - News (Xbox 360) .::. Size~: 38.94 KBJun 27 01:36
Chips_B_MalroyNot much new in this oneJun 27 01:36
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Follow this account for your dents to be visible in techrights.orgJun 27 01:50
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schestowitzok, I've created a group as some people have suggested. http://identi.ca/group/techrightsJun 27 01:53
TechrightsTitle: techrights group - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 13.03 KBJun 27 01:53
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Chicago supports corporate terrorism http://ur1.ca/0e497 #walmartJun 27 01:55
TechrightsTitle: Walmart Defeats Chicago, Plans To Open Up To 21 Stores - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 56.39 KBJun 27 01:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: My coffee maker finally gave outJun 27 01:57
DaemonFCI had to boil water in my tea kettle and pour it into the filter basket of the dead coffee makerJun 27 01:58
DaemonFC:(Jun 27 01:58
*DaemonFC genetically engineers a Ballmer/Cheney hybrid and sets it lose on the world that has wronged him soJun 27 02:00
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schestowitzGM SteveBJun 27 02:04
schestowitzDoesn't he have Ford background though?Jun 27 02:04
schestowitzLike his dad, his car, and the SYNC nonsense?Jun 27 02:05
DaemonFChttp://blorp.com/?article=406Jun 27 02:05
TechrightsTitle: Justin's blog .::. Size~: 6.19 KBJun 27 02:05
DaemonFC@Chris Parkes Microsoft(r) Windows(tm) costs money to license while Linux is free and "[m]aking usable boxes from junk, to donate" and then massively invest in the OS would be unwise. Also there is lots of (free) software available for Linux.Jun 27 02:05
DaemonFCheheJun 27 02:05
DaemonFCWindows is very dangerous in the hands of clueless users, who it is most often sold toJun 27 02:06
DaemonFCUAC asks you to confirm everything except reloading and shooting yourself in the other footJun 27 02:07
DaemonFCB-)Jun 27 02:07
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I need to do a usability test on Windows vs. LinuxJun 27 02:08
DaemonFCsee how many times I shout "No, goddammit, that's not what I want!!! Fucking cancel!!!! Blaaaaghhh!!!!!"Jun 27 02:08
DaemonFCit'll be closeJun 27 02:08
DaemonFCsure Windows is easy-ish when everything is on by default and exposing security flaws whether you use it or notJun 27 02:09
DaemonFCthe fundamental attitude behind system services hasn't changed a lot in 10 yearsJun 27 02:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: Supposedly, according to Microsoft, Windows 7 is more intelligent about not blindly starting services you don't need and leaving them sitting there runningJun 27 02:11
DaemonFCbut I'd still come across a lot of them doing exactly thatJun 27 02:11
DaemonFC*I'veJun 27 02:12
DaemonFCthe best part is making services you do need depend on services that don't provide anything you needJun 27 02:12
schestowitzSomeone has done this assessmentJun 27 02:13
schestowitzI can find it for youyJun 27 02:13
schestowitz*youJun 27 02:13
schestowitzBut I'm busy w/ Bilski at the momentJun 27 02:13
schestowitzit look like Monday swpays might partly dieJun 27 02:13
schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/06/26/premonitions-of-bilski/Jun 27 02:13
TechrightsTitle:   Premonitions of Bilski at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 30.46 KBJun 27 02:13
schestowitzhttp://www.scotusblog.com/2010/06/the-final-four-decisions/Jun 27 02:13
TechrightsTitle: SCOTUSblog » The Final Four Decisions  .::. Size~: 42.82 KBJun 27 02:13
DaemonFCyepJun 27 02:13
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jun/24/rangzieb-ahmed-appeal-terrorism-convictionJun 27 02:14
schestowitzUS artJun 27 02:14
TechrightsTitle:  Rangzieb Ahmed to appeal terrorism conviction | Law | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 68.98 KBJun 27 02:14
DaemonFCRMS was right about software patents being like mosquitosJun 27 02:14
DaemonFCand never getting rid of the problem by invalidating them individuallyJun 27 02:14
DaemonFCwhen the USPTO can be forced to strike down one vague patent and three more that are substantially similar get approved tomorrowJun 27 02:15
DaemonFCand that's the cycleJun 27 02:15
DaemonFCMPEG Cartel is the biggest threat to an open internet that exists right now. Microsoft is a small part of it, but it's like competing organized crime families getting together to pool their resources to stage a hit on a common annoyance to them. (open source/patent-free codec specifications)Jun 27 02:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Good news. Justice Stevens is on #Bilski case. #swpats maybe void within 2 days. http://ur1.ca/0e4dd http://ur1.ca/0e4de fingers crossedJun 27 02:16
TechrightsTitle: SCOTUSblog » The Final Four Decisions  .::. Size~: 42.82 KBJun 27 02:16
TechrightsTitle:   Premonitions of Bilski at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 30.46 KBJun 27 02:16
DaemonFCit's like the evil power rangers or somethingJun 27 02:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/06/19Jun 27 02:17
TechrightsTitle: Unrest in Pakistan:  Moving Beyond U.S. National Interest | CommonDreams.org .::. Size~: 46.38 KBJun 27 02:17
DaemonFCyes, Pakistan's government is about to implodeJun 27 02:18
schestowitzIIRC, PK funded the NYT bomberJun 27 02:18
schestowitz*NYCJun 27 02:18
schestowitzHe failedJun 27 02:18
DaemonFCPakistan's people have finally gotten desperateJun 27 02:18
DaemonFC"They can't kill us all and it's better than what's going on now"Jun 27 02:18
DaemonFCdangerous when the civilians get that mindsetJun 27 02:18
DaemonFCto the government anywayJun 27 02:19
DaemonFCyeah, the radical hard core Islamists are throwing gasoline on that fireJun 27 02:19
DaemonFC"Look, they're the US puppets, just put us in charge when you're done trying to get rid of them"Jun 27 02:20
DaemonFCcowards get other people to die for themJun 27 02:20
DaemonFCfools die for the cowardsJun 27 02:20
DaemonFC:PJun 27 02:20
DaemonFCwatch what happens when there's a Taliban-like government ruling PakistanJun 27 02:21
DaemonFCthey thought they were abused and poverty stricken before, just waitJun 27 02:21
DaemonFCI really feel sorry for them if they're conned into installing the TalibanJun 27 02:22
DaemonFCeven the Iranian regime isn't that hardcoreJun 27 02:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Kids' lives are filled with drama; the 100th time you tell a consequential lie, it's banal - the first time, it's hi drama #YAlitchatJun 27 02:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Plus, kids take lit seriously -- read to find identity and meaning. They absorb and argue with literature as if it means something#YAlitchatJun 27 02:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: Common mistake, not thinking about what's going to take power in the vacuum you create when you get rid of the last guysJun 27 02:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: AT&T gets aggravated when you call them and ask them for the settings to punch into your router manually instead of running their crapware CDJun 27 02:26
DaemonFCI don't think I mentioned thatJun 27 02:26
DaemonFC*router/modemJun 27 02:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I've never found it hard to find interesting ideas; it's 2010! If you're not finding 10 cool sf ideas a day, you're not trying! #YAlitchatJun 27 02:26
DaemonFCthe last time I just popped in their disc, I regretted itJun 27 02:26
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/23/jamaican-gang-boss-arrestedJun 27 02:27
TechrightsTitle:  Jamaican gang boss arrested on way to American embassy | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 69.11 KBJun 27 02:27
DaemonFCbefore it was done I had a new "browser" that was a ad-laden IE frontend, the MS JAVA VM, a customized Yahoo Messenger, new startup items for "modem diagnostics"Jun 27 02:27
DaemonFCtrial versions of antivirus software that didn't ask me before installingJun 27 02:27
DaemonFCthey pack those ISP set up CDs with any kind of foistware and hijacker software that can make them a dimeJun 27 02:28
DaemonFCschestowitz: I easily spent 2-3 hours decrapifying my Uncle's Windows XP systemJun 27 02:29
DaemonFCso much crapware invaded from various sources that it could barely even startJun 27 02:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I suppose I'm largely at peace with myself! That said, I've got so many irons in fires that I often feel I'm neglecting something #YAlitchatJun 27 02:29
DaemonFCmostly from the OEM and the AT&T set up discJun 27 02:29
schestowitz"The Raw Story is an alternative news nexus. We draw upon a panoply of news sources and select those stories we think most intriguing to an audience seeking news underplayed by the mainstream media. "Jun 27 02:29
schestowitzhttp://www.rawstory.com/about.htmlJun 27 02:30
TechrightsTitle: The Raw Story | About Us & Masthead .::. Size~: 19.97 KBJun 27 02:30
schestowitzHmmm... doesn't mean it's accurate, just differentJun 27 02:30
DaemonFCschestowitz: I've been badgering our district's state representative to introduce anti-spyware lawsJun 27 02:30
DaemonFCfor several years nowJun 27 02:30
schestowitzDaemonFC: `http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/jun/23/mcchrystal-afghan-planJun 27 02:30
TechrightsTitle:  The failure of McChrystal's Afghan plan | Sahil Kapur | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 198.04 KBJun 27 02:30
DaemonFCit never gets doneJun 27 02:30
schestowitzDaemonFC: Australia may have these lawsJun 27 02:31
schestowitzFor malware tooJun 27 02:31
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'd like to see a law that says if a sponsored application is bundled with the primary application's installer, then it must not selected by defaultJun 27 02:32
schestowitzOh my Gawwd.Jun 27 02:32
schestowitzPalin is bats* insane.Jun 27 02:32
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/SarahPalinUSA/status/16622429904Jun 27 02:32
TechrightsTitle: Twitter / Sarah Palin: Gulf disaster needs divine ... .::. Size~: 11.37 KBJun 27 02:32
schestowitzRMS: "Sarah Palin asked for "divine intervention" to end the Big Pollution in the Gulf. " http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-mar-jun.html#26%20June%202010%20%28Divine%20intervention%29Jun 27 02:32
DaemonFCschestowitz: Set a fine at $5,000 per violationJun 27 02:32
DaemonFCsee how long that shit lasts, even if only one state had laws like thatJun 27 02:33
DaemonFCsay a million people in Indiana alone get that crapware disc from AT&TJun 27 02:33
DaemonFCimagine the finesJun 27 02:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I think I circle similar themes, but I always try to mash up different unlikely pairs of ideas to get at them @WedwayRadio #YAlitchatJun 27 02:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] For example, labor politics, macroeconomics and video games (For the Win) @WedwayRadio #YAlitchatJun 27 02:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I do 1K words/day on the novel, first thing in the ofc. Blogging and email in the AM b4 breakfast then after novel @beingbrad #YAlitchatJun 27 02:35
schestowitzPaula Hunter sucking up in comments: http://ostatic.com/blog/could-microsofts-codeplex-actually-go-independentJun 27 02:36
TechrightsTitle:  Could Microsoft's CodePlex Actually Go Independent?  .::. Size~: 27.5 KBJun 27 02:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Secret to writers block: write even when you're blocked, even when it feels forced. Inspiration sucks, working rules @beingbrad #YAlitchatJun 27 02:36
DaemonFCControlling Redundant and Automatically Provided Windows Applications by Restricting EntryJun 27 02:36
DaemonFCthe CRAPWARE ActJun 27 02:37
DaemonFCB-)Jun 27 02:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Many friends were loving writing YA - Westerfeld, Koja, etc - and it seemed like fun; it IS fun, so still at it! @editorialdept #YAlitchatJun 27 02:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Basically, that tech can be used to seize liberty or confiscate it, up to us to use it well @kcclyburn #YAlitchatJun 27 02:37
schestowitzThis weird: http://www.opensources.com/2010/06/23/where-is-red-hat-growing/Jun 27 02:38
TechrightsTitle: Open Sources » Where is Red Hat growing? .::. Size~: 31.8 KBJun 27 02:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I wrote less then - no columns, only 250 words/day, and didn't have a kid, but otherwise very similar @beingbrad #YAlitchatJun 27 02:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Working all those gigs forced me to learn to write whenever there was time. Best lesson of my life @beingbrad #YAlitchatJun 27 02:38
schestowitzMac Asay no longer blogs in CNETJun 27 02:38
schestowitzhe also doesn't use his Canonical blogJun 27 02:38
DaemonFChe's lurking dangerouslyJun 27 02:39
schestowitzHe got back to the abandoned domain he had set up with Dave ages agoJun 27 02:39
DaemonFCplotting to move the window controls to bottom center in Ubuntu 10.10Jun 27 02:39
DaemonFCcalling it a usability initiativeJun 27 02:39
schestowitzNot his fieldJun 27 02:39
schestowitzHe's not in desuignJun 27 02:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] My book DOWN AND OUT IN THE MAGIC KINGDOM is the most concise answer I have for that! @WedwayRadio #YAlitchatJun 27 02:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Really too numerous to enumerate! Cyberpunks, of course, and Dan'l Pinkwater, and so so many others @Susanne_Dunlap #YAlitchatJun 27 02:39
schestowitzIt's a 200+ people companyJun 27 02:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: They've managed to mess Ubuntu up so bad that even Windows makes more sense in many casesJun 27 02:40
DaemonFCI can get control freakery, spam, and shit I don't use with WindowsJun 27 02:40
DaemonFC:PJun 27 02:40
DaemonFCmaking things the user might not want to use a mandatory part of the installation and pegging them to this insane meta package so they can't blast it after the system is installed is exactly the kind of shit you get in WindowsJun 27 02:42
DaemonFCGNOME and KDE even make the help system guilt of the same bad behavior as you get in WindowsJun 27 02:43
DaemonFCin Windows, help only opens with IEJun 27 02:43
DaemonFCin GNOME, it opens in XulrunnerJun 27 02:43
DaemonFCin KDE, it opens with KHTMLJun 27 02:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Reading board-books and picture books has convinced me it's a LOT harder than it looks! @emikatj #YAlitchatJun 27 02:44
DaemonFCwhy does standard HTML need to open with an HTML engine that you can't uninstall?Jun 27 02:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Not sure about kids' books yet, haven't gotten to them with Poesy (she's only 2.5!) @emikatj #YAlitchatJun 27 02:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Haven't seen it, but looks cool! @PaulWHankins #YAlitchatJun 27 02:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: .hlp files are dead, iircJun 27 02:45
schestowitzI read about it last yearJun 27 02:45
DaemonFCnot reallyJun 27 02:46
DaemonFCthere's a new help engine that's the same thingJun 27 02:46
DaemonFChlp files were actually betterJun 27 02:46
DaemonFCWinhlp has a simple HTML subset that only has the essential features needed to render the hlp fileJun 27 02:47
DaemonFCit had nothing to do with IEJun 27 02:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I usually take a couple months between books and work on other stuff; it was 4 months between FTW and my new one @editorialdept #YAlitchatJun 27 02:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] But there's SO MANY books I want to write, hate taking a break, feel like I'll never get em done! @editorialdept #YAlitchatJun 27 02:48
DaemonFCbinding a help file to a full blown browser engine makes it a lot easier to craft a malicious help fileJun 27 02:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I used to get a lot of feedback from my writing group, lately it's all from my editors (one in UK, one in USA) @beingbrad #YAlitchatJun 27 02:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] If it's not turning into a novel, you probably need More Stuff. @SBRepublic #YAlitchatJun 27 02:49
DaemonFCIn the case of Linux, it might also mean you have to have Xulrunner installed even if you don't need or want FirefoxJun 27 02:49
DaemonFCso it creates two problemsJun 27 02:50
DaemonFCremove Xulrunner and you get rid of the help system and you yank out the meta package that helps system upgrades go correctlyJun 27 02:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I do about 6 regular columns; on 4 activist org boards, 3 companies' advisories, Boing Boing, paid lectures, etc @aimeebartis #YAlitchatJun 27 02:50
DaemonFCUbuntu likes to make hard dependencies on things that actually have NOTHING to do with the system just to force the user into keeping all the bloatJun 27 02:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] You just write. If a doctor doesn't feel motivated to remove your gallbladder, she still removes your gallbladder @danthefan #YAlitchatJun 27 02:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Assuming it needs removing, of course @danthefan #YAlitchatJun 27 02:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] It's called PIRATE CINEMA: YA set in London about youth gang who make their own movies, do underground screenings @editorialdept #YAlitchatJun 27 02:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] A good writing group is great, a bad writing group is worse than useless @beingbrad #YAlitchatJun 27 02:52
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DaemonFCschestowitz: One thing I like about Mandriva is how it groups things to be installedJun 27 02:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Yes. (Which is better for a kid: independent play or supervised play? Depends on kid, supervisor, play!) @ianmrountree #YAlitchatJun 27 02:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Haven't found any @emikatj #YAlitchatJun 27 02:53
DaemonFCif you just slap next, you end up with a bloated system, but you can customize the installationJun 27 02:53
DaemonFCUbuntu's LiveCD just doesn't let you control how you want your system to end upJun 27 02:53
DaemonFCand the metapackages make it difficult to fine tune once it is installedJun 27 02:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I write a "treatment" with the kind of stuff that'll appear in book, a little outline, write, a little more outline @kcclyburn #YAlitchatJun 27 02:54
DaemonFCFirefox is not exactly a model citizen for FOSSJun 27 02:55
DaemonFCyou think, well it's free software, open source developmentJun 27 02:55
DaemonFCshould be improving rapidlyJun 27 02:56
DaemonFCand it's just notJun 27 02:56
DaemonFCOpera beats them to everything, by months evenJun 27 02:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I guess Star Wars. Both suffer from too much expansion by their franchise owners @kcclyburn #YAlitchatJun 27 02:57
DaemonFCbecause the franchise makes moneyJun 27 02:58
DaemonFCthat's how franchises workJun 27 02:58
DaemonFCfranchises expand until the amount of money they are taking in dries upJun 27 02:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Most of the writing groups I've been in have been physical, virtual ones never seem as successful for me @editorialdept #YAlitchatJun 27 02:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Mostly a way to be artistically satisfied! @WBDass #YAlitchatJun 27 02:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I think the risk to Creative Commons would come from mandatory DRM from distributors, eg. iTunes videos @ruthymeg #YAlitchatJun 27 03:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I could live off just novels, but no blogging/speaking/columns would feel like getting a lobotomy @GinaRitter #YAlitchatJun 27 03:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Some feedback; friends' kids mostly, Problem with trusted 17yo readers is they're 19 by the time the next 1's done@pam_rosengren #YAlitchatJun 27 03:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Doing YA book tours -- 4 schools/day! -- is a major source of teen hangoutage! @marjorielight #YAlitchatJun 27 03:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Have a look at YouTube for examples of the stuff I speak on; no day job, but I co-own/edit Boing Boing @GinaRitter #YAlitchatJun 27 03:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I think DRM's probably "good" for vendors like Apple b/c it locks in readers at publishers/creators expense @kcclyburn #YAlitchatJun 27 03:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] But it's bad for creators and publishers - no one buys a book because they want the DRM @kcclyburn #YAlitchatJun 27 03:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Meet weekly or 2ce monthly, manuscripts distributed well in advance, marked up, returned to writer @Kate_Sheehy #YAlitchatJun 27 03:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] SF is inherently activist - making predictions about how tech will change society is an ideological exercise @AveryOslo #YAlitchatJun 27 03:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Less so outside of US/UK because I don't have much direct contact; all through foreign rights agent, language barrier @WBDass #YAlitchatJun 27 03:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] As few as 3 or 4, probably not more than 15 @Kate_Sheehy #YAlitchatJun 27 03:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I was one of those book-a-day kids, with a million "favorites" - but I heartily recommend Daniel M Pinkwater! @AudryT #YAlitchatJun 27 03:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Everyone should be at "about the same level" (whatever that means, not nec. publishing credits, tho) @Kate_Sheehy #YAlitchatJun 27 03:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I've had voluntary CC programs in Germany from two different publishers @WBDass #YAlitchatJun 27 03:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I live on a different continent from my hometown, so I'd probably call my parents first! @marjorielight #YAlitchatJun 27 03:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Funnily enough, the G20 landed in my hometown this weekend and pretty much trashed the place @marjorielight #YAlitchatJun 27 03:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] It's true! Or a spleen. @mitaliperkins #YAlitchatJun 27 03:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I don't think DRM does anything to stop piracy. It doesn't stop copying and it doesn't encourage honesty. Total fail @kcclyburn #yalitchatJun 27 03:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I don't think they're phobic; I think big institutions have a hard time responding coordinately and well to change @AudryT #yalitchatJun 27 03:21
DaemonFCschestowitz: crapflood?Jun 27 03:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I usually mull a book for months before I write a 2-3 page treatment to sell the book, then I write @marjorielight #yalitchatJun 27 03:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @doctorow You are crapflooding TechrightsJun 27 03:23
DaemonFC:PJun 27 03:23
Chips_B_Malroythank youJun 27 03:25
DaemonFCschestowitz: http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/50375-microsofts-molyneux-says-playstation-move-just-like-wiiJun 27 03:25
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft's Molyneux says Playstation Move just like Wii | TG Daily .::. Size~: 45.36 KBJun 27 03:25
DaemonFCIs it just me or does the PS3 Move controller look like a vibrator?Jun 27 03:25
DaemonFC;)Jun 27 03:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Some writing, a fair bit of bouncing it off friends/editor/agent @marjorielight #yalitchatJun 27 03:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] No. It's about believing in the promise of tech, worrying it will render some much loved people obsolete, being torn @achitnis #yalitchatJun 27 03:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Keep writing. What you write and how you feel when you write are are largely unrelated @beingbrad #yalitchatJun 27 03:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Yeah - the treatment is more like "this is the kind of stuff that will happen in this book" though @KyleD03 #yalitchatJun 27 03:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Thanks for the awesome moderation, @Georgia_McBride! #yalitchatJun 27 03:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] No, I'm in DC for #ala10 @beingbrad #yalitchatJun 27 03:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] G'night folks! #yalitchatJun 27 03:34
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20008924-503544.htmlJun 27 03:47
TechrightsTitle: Biden: We Can't Recover All the Jobs Lost - Political Hotsheet - CBS News .::. Size~: 71.41 KBJun 27 03:47
DaemonFCBiden seems to have been afflicted with the inability to lie all of a suddenJun 27 03:48
DaemonFCquick, ask him what he really thinks of file sharing before he goes back to MPAA drone modeJun 27 03:48
Chips_B_MalroyStill,it won't make him popular to say those thingsJun 27 03:49
DaemonFCof course notJun 27 03:49
DaemonFCpeople want to hear that the federal corporate welfare laws are getting people back to workJun 27 03:50
DaemonFCand the MPAA passes out sunshine and kitty kats with every legally sold DVDJun 27 03:50
Chips_B_MalroyWhen they make statement like that, maybe its time to start calling it a Depression?Jun 27 03:50
DaemonFCnahJun 27 03:51
Chips_B_MalroyCause he basically said not every one is going get their job back at the end of thisJun 27 03:51
DaemonFCObama will correct him tomorrowJun 27 03:51
DaemonFCdidn't you know 8 million and 1 jobs were saved or created with the corporate welfare laws?Jun 27 03:51
DaemonFCtrue storyJun 27 03:51
Chips_B_MalroysureJun 27 03:52
Chips_B_Malroyjust like every new windows version is the most secure OS everJun 27 03:52
DaemonFCThe air force advertised that Microsoft secured Windows XP, just for themJun 27 03:53
Chips_B_MalroyI see congress in all its humanity does not want to extend unemployment bennies any moreJun 27 03:53
DaemonFCmade it so that "85%" of exploits don't workJun 27 03:53
DaemonFCleaving only a million or two that do I guessJun 27 03:53
DaemonFC:PJun 27 03:53
DaemonFCand a security gulag for any poor bastard that tries to use that system no doubtJun 27 03:54
Chips_B_Malroyof courseJun 27 03:54
DaemonFCand it saved them "100 million dollars" vs having to "secure" and "support" their own rolloutsJun 27 03:55
DaemonFCyay!Jun 27 03:55
cubezzzuh, can't recall how swap works on linux 2.2Jun 27 03:55
DaemonFCmakes me wonder if that XP image really ever did existJun 27 03:55
DaemonFCMicrosoft never made it publicJun 27 03:55
DaemonFCin any shapeJun 27 03:55
DaemonFCMicrosoft probably removed all the obvious fluff you can get rid of with nliteJun 27 03:56
DaemonFCand made it expire passwords every 60 daysJun 27 03:56
Chips_B_Malroyyou mean "Secure XP" for the military?Jun 27 03:56
DaemonFCthat's probably about itJun 27 03:57
Chips_B_Malroyget rid of IE, Outlook, WMP, Messenger, set up Normal user account, those just for startersJun 27 03:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] #Texas #GOP rebrands itself as the "No #Blowjob Party" -- that'll be popular. http://tinyurl.com/258bcsaJun 27 03:59
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Chips_B_Malroyeven if you make it somewhat secure, its never going be very good for a home user, as they want to install software from time to timeJun 27 04:00
Chips_B_Malroywindows software if full of trojans, and average users do not know how to get around thatJun 27 04:01
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cubezzzah, now I rememberJun 27 04:02
cubezzzmkswap -c -c1 /root/swapfileJun 27 04:02
cubezzzmkswap -c -v1 /root/swapfileJun 27 04:02
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cubezzzdoes icewm have any form of clipboard?Jun 27 04:06
cubezzzor even if there was some kind of text only clipboardJun 27 04:07
DaemonFChttp://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5009/201006262246041280x768s.pngJun 27 04:08
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.informationweek.com/news/government/security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=225701456&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_NewsJun 27 04:08
TechrightsTitle: White House Preparing National Online ID Plan -- Cybersecurity -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 78.88 KBJun 27 04:08
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch-plan-approved-by-us-senate/?olo=rssJun 27 04:10
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cubezzzChips_B_Malroy, figured out how to get the old X going on the 486Jun 27 04:11
Chips_B_MalroyI don't know If Roy has this next one:Jun 27 04:11
cubezzzthe video card was an ATI VGA Wonder+ with 512k dramJun 27 04:11
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://news.techworld.com/sme/3214418/microsoft-to-kill-business-server-package/Jun 27 04:12
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Chips_B_Malroy"Microsoft is to discontinue development of Windows Essential Business Server (EBS) according to a company blog.  The blog calls the elimination of this package of integrated Microsoft back-office programs a move to "streamline [Microsoft's] server product portfolio.""Jun 27 04:13
Chips_B_MalroyCubezzz>were you able to get the mouse working in X?Jun 27 04:14
cubezzzyeahJun 27 04:14
cubezzzit's undocumented stuff though, had to look at my other linux computersJun 27 04:14
cubezzzProtocol "IMPS/2"Jun 27 04:15
cubezzzwell it's probably documented somewhere but I couldn't find itJun 27 04:15
cubezzzpretty sure I'm limited to 640x480 256 colourJun 27 04:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] EXCELLENT use of the word "commingle" here - kind of thing we want to encourage! http://flic.kr/p/8dzf6TJun 27 04:18
TechrightsTitle: First prize for use of "commingle" on a recycling bin, ALA, Washington, DC, USA 1.JPG on Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 51.19 KBJun 27 04:18
Chips_B_Malroywho is Doctorow?Jun 27 04:19
Chips_B_Malroyas in kill the botJun 27 04:20
cubezzzreally wish I stuck with Linux since 1994 nowJun 27 04:23
Diablo-D3doctorow is a cool dudeJun 27 04:25
Diablo-D3well known authorJun 27 04:25
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cubezzzDoctorow lives in a hot air balloon "up in" the blogosphere ("above the tag clouds") and wears a red cape and gogglesJun 27 04:28
cubezzz;-)Jun 27 04:28
Diablo-D3:DJun 27 04:28
DaemonFCnstead, the bill puts limits on the powers the president already has to cause "the closing of any facility or stations for wire communication" in a time of war, as described in the Communications Act of 1934Jun 27 04:29
DaemonFCbullshitJun 27 04:29
DaemonFCthe government never takes power away from itselfJun 27 04:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] iPhone 4 has a few problems. Four, to be precise http://bit.ly/ctSKrwJun 27 04:30
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DaemonFCThe president would need congressional approval to extend a national cyber-emergency beyond 120 days under an amendment to the legislation approved by the committee.Jun 27 04:30
DaemonFCso, without congressional oversight, the president can "only" shut down the internet for four monthsJun 27 04:31
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cubezzzno way I'm running netscape on this thingJun 27 04:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Apple blames users for the bugs in the new iPhone http://bit.ly/ctSKrw (bad reception? You're not holding it correctly! :-)Jun 27 04:35
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Chips_B_MalroyBing-Zune integration still not workinghttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13526_3-20008931-27.html  Jun 27 04:39
TechrightsTitle: Bing-Zune integration still not working | Digital Noise: Music and Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 109.45 KBJun 27 04:39
Chips_B_Malroy"I'm sure Microsoft will get around to implementing a working version of this feature eventually. But I can't help but compare the event with Google's launch of its similar embedded music playback feature last October. Immediately, when the feature was announced, you could sample a functional version of itJun 27 04:41
Chips_B_MalroyI wouldn't make a mountain out of a minor bug, but these kinds of glitches happen with Microsoft online services all the time. "Jun 27 04:41
Chips_B_MalroyLOL, even CNET knows MS cannot get it rightJun 27 04:41
Chips_B_Malroyyou want good you use Google, not Bing Jun 27 04:42
Chips_B_MalroyBing + Zune = FAILJun 27 04:43
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DaemonFCthe 2% of the MP3 player market and 5-6% of the search market?Jun 27 04:45
DaemonFCniche products that nobody even really has?Jun 27 04:45
DaemonFCyayJun 27 04:45
DaemonFCI think that's probably 10 Sandisk MP3 players per ZuneJun 27 04:46
DaemonFCas well as about 50-60 ipodsJun 27 04:46
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/2010/04/junk-cyber-crim.htmlJun 27 04:46
TechrightsTitle:     Security FUD In Action: Not Windows' Fault, Nope, Not at All - Linux Today Blog     .::. Size~: 87.04 KBJun 27 04:46
DaemonFCthen theres all the other various playersJun 27 04:46
DaemonFCZune is like, the bottom of the also-ran listJun 27 04:47
DaemonFCor pretty damned closeJun 27 04:47
DaemonFCit's not really saying much considering they have like a billion times the ad budget of the rest of the non-Crapple competition put togetherJun 27 04:47
DaemonFCif you can't make something look cool despite like half a billion dollars to market it with, you have failedJun 27 04:48
DaemonFCApple's products aren't that great, but even they can muster up a marketing campaignJun 27 04:48
DaemonFCso Zune is double failJun 27 04:49
Chips_B_MalroyI have no idea why Ballmer keeps the Zune, do you?  its a disasterJun 27 04:49
DaemonFCone for the product and one for the ad campaignJun 27 04:49
DaemonFCZune is dyingJun 27 04:49
DaemonFCMicrosoft has like, two Zune models leftJun 27 04:49
DaemonFCWalmart only carries one of themJun 27 04:49
DaemonFCif you see anything other than a Zune HD, it's either old stock and/or a refurbJun 27 04:50
DaemonFCthe division is basically a hollow shellJun 27 04:50
Chips_B_MalroyMS like to pretend that they are the competition to the Ipad with the Zune.  But truth is Zune is not number 2 in sales.  Jun 27 04:50
Chips_B_MalroyNo, Zune is not dieing.  Its already deadJun 27 04:50
DaemonFCThe Zune is a mediocre PMP, the price is way too damned high thoughJun 27 04:50
DaemonFCand the communication protocol is proprietary and everything known to make it work in Linux is reverse engineeredJun 27 04:51
DaemonFCthere's no reason to buy it vs. another player with similar or greater features costing 1/3rd the priceJun 27 04:51
DaemonFCwhich have MSC modeJun 27 04:51
DaemonFCanyone who is willing to pay $200 for a PMP with only 16 GB of storage should be shotJun 27 04:52
DaemonFCI'm seriousJun 27 04:52
DaemonFCespecially one with no expansion slotJun 27 04:52
Chips_B_MalroyI have a sansa clip, the 4gb modelJun 27 04:53
DaemonFCThe Sansa Fuze 8 GB model can be had for $50 refurb or $70 new, and has a MicroSD expansion slotJun 27 04:53
DaemonFCand supports Vorbis and FLAC in addition to MPEG and Windows MediaJun 27 04:53
Chips_B_MalroyI think Sansa is in 2nd place behind Ipad, not ZuneJun 27 04:53
DaemonFCso you could easily just buy another 16 or 32 GB MicroSDJun 27 04:53
DaemonFCand still not be too far over $100Jun 27 04:53
Chips_B_MalroyMy Sansa Clip will play ogg filesJun 27 04:54
DaemonFCyes, all they did was tweak the Tremor decoder a little bit probablyJun 27 04:54
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DaemonFC(Tremor = integer-based Vorbis decoder for embedded hardware)Jun 27 04:54
DaemonFCso most of the work was already done for themJun 27 04:55
DaemonFCthere's really no reason not to play Vorbis if you're a hardware maker, other than trying to corral your users into buying MPEG or Windows Media filesJun 27 04:55
DaemonFCnot supporting Vorbis is really kind of a form of user betrayal reallyJun 27 04:56
DaemonFCyou're essentially forcing them to stockpile a library of patent-encumbered music in a technically inferior formatJun 27 04:57
DaemonFCVorbis is a much more flexible codec than MP3, and edges out AAC as wellJun 27 04:57
DaemonFCthat's before you even want to talk about patentsJun 27 04:57
DaemonFCFlash storage space is not free you knowJun 27 04:58
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=225701524&cid=RSSfeed_eetimes_newsRSS "Also at FTF, Freescale announced its move to a 64-bit architecture for the QorIQ family with its e5500 Power core, which analysts claimed is faster than competitive cores from Cavium and NetLogic but still slightly behind Intel's Xeon in raw performance. "Jun 27 04:58
DaemonFCif you can get the same quality and use half the space of MP3, go for itJun 27 04:58
DaemonFCtrue that there's no point bickering about space on a modern hard drive, but portables don't have that kind of storageJun 27 04:58
DaemonFCand making two copies of your media library is unwieldyJun 27 04:59
DaemonFCI've gotten to where I just rip to Ogg q6 and forget about itJun 27 04:59
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy: The thing that stunned me about Zune HD is the HD radio receiverJun 27 05:00
DaemonFCwhat a crock of shit that thing itJun 27 05:00
DaemonFC*isJun 27 05:00
DaemonFCthere's like, six HD radio stations in IndianaJun 27 05:00
DaemonFCSIXJun 27 05:01
DaemonFCand most of them are talk radioJun 27 05:01
DaemonFCtwo are in range of me I believeJun 27 05:01
DaemonFCone is talk radio and the other is jazzJun 27 05:01
DaemonFCWho wants a Zune HD? Teenagers and young adults don't listen to Rush Limbaugh or jazz musicJun 27 05:01
DaemonFCare they marketing it to those trendy 60+ year olds with gobs of Social Security cash?Jun 27 05:02
DaemonFC:DJun 27 05:02
Chips_B_Malroyfrom sales figures it seems hardly anyone would want a zuneJun 27 05:02
DaemonFCthe HD radio support is a scamJun 27 05:02
DaemonFCthe feature sounds impressive but there's nothing to listen toJun 27 05:02
Chips_B_MalroyRush?Jun 27 05:03
DaemonFCIndiana is bigger than a lot of sovereign nations and has SIX HD radio stations that nobody in their right mind would listen toJun 27 05:03
Chips_B_MalroyLOLJun 27 05:03
DaemonFClandwise, Indiana is bigger than HungaryJun 27 05:04
DaemonFCpopulation higher than IrelandJun 27 05:05
DaemonFCand we have 6 radio stations across the state that sound better on the Zune HDJun 27 05:05
DaemonFCand you'll never be in range of more than 1-2 of themJun 27 05:06
DaemonFCthat's $300 well spentJun 27 05:06
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy: HD Radio failed a long time before the Zune HD even came outJun 27 05:07
Chips_B_Malroywell as a former MVP DaemonFC, we know you had an Xbox360, did you also have an Zune?Jun 27 05:07
DaemonFCI don't even know who wanted to support thatJun 27 05:07
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy: I have never owned a ZuneJun 27 05:07
DaemonFCI have used one brieflyJun 27 05:07
DaemonFCa Microsoft representative went over the old hard-drive based models with meJun 27 05:07
DaemonFCback when they were newJun 27 05:08
DaemonFCI was more impressed with them, honestlyJun 27 05:08
DaemonFCthan the Zune HDJun 27 05:08
Chips_B_MalroySo their it is, even MS MVP's (well former ones that is) will not get or use ZunesJun 27 05:08
DaemonFCif you want to waste your money, go right aheadJun 27 05:08
DaemonFCI'm not touching one of those thingsJun 27 05:08
Chips_B_Malroyme eitherJun 27 05:08
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy: Oddly enough, there might be one case where the Zune does something that's not common in other hardwareJun 27 05:09
DaemonFCit will play back WMA Pro v10 and WMA Lossless filesJun 27 05:09
DaemonFCif anyone considers that a featureJun 27 05:09
DaemonFCalmost no other portable supports either codecJun 27 05:10
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy: They support WMA "Standard" which, the format for that was frozen in late 1997, and any improvements on it have been encoder-sideJun 27 05:10
DaemonFCso they have to live with the design flaws they made in the mid 1990s foreverJun 27 05:11
Chips_B_MalroyDaemonFC> I bought a used laptop recently, mostly for the parts, it was a good deal..Except Vi$ta was on the HD.  Just had to play with it a bit.  Looked like the seller had tried a clean install, I thought first.Jun 27 05:11
DaemonFCit will never even rival MP3Jun 27 05:11
DaemonFCthere was a time when it came close, but that was when MP3 encoders were a lot worseJun 27 05:11
Chips_B_MalroySo I plopped in an antivirus disk, and guess what, it was rootkitted among other malware.  And yes, UAC was still working.Jun 27 05:12
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy: Zune Store dumbfounds meJun 27 05:12
Chips_B_MalroyOf couse I DBANNED it and put LinuxJun 27 05:12
DaemonFCit doesn't use WMA Pro even though their DRM makes it incompatible with every other player anywayJun 27 05:12
DaemonFCso they may as wellJun 27 05:12
Chips_B_MalroyZune has a store?Jun 27 05:12
DaemonFCyesJun 27 05:12
DaemonFCDRM'd WMA "Standard"Jun 27 05:13
DaemonFCand not even PlayReady or PlaysForSureJun 27 05:13
DaemonFCDRM that's exclusive to the ZuneJun 27 05:13
Chips_B_Malroyoh, okJun 27 05:13
DaemonFCthe files will never work outside of thatJun 27 05:13
Chips_B_MalroyDRM=gates/control/wareJun 27 05:13
DaemonFCthey have passable hardware, it's priced way too high, their store is a joke and a walled gardenJun 27 05:14
DaemonFCand all support for them in Linux is a reverse engineered library that probably violates patentsJun 27 05:14
DaemonFCand that only gets you so far as file transferJun 27 05:14
DaemonFCnot playing anything you boughtJun 27 05:14
Chips_B_MalroyBallmer should rename the Zune, to the BRICKJun 27 05:15
DaemonFCPaul Thurrott is the only person I heard of that recommends ZuneJun 27 05:15
DaemonFCbut he also defends Internet ExplorerJun 27 05:15
DaemonFCand defended VistaJun 27 05:15
DaemonFCand MeJun 27 05:16
Chips_B_MalroyMS has renamed about ever other failed product multiple times, except for the ZuneJun 27 05:16
DaemonFCand spread lies about iPod being about to support WMAJun 27 05:16
DaemonFChe said that, you can google itJun 27 05:16
DaemonFCcirca 2004Jun 27 05:16
DaemonFChe said WMA was going to take over the worldJun 27 05:16
DaemonFCand Apple would fear and respect itJun 27 05:16
DaemonFC:PJun 27 05:16
Chips_B_Malroybut, in some ways wma came closestJun 27 05:16
DaemonFChe's a paid shillJun 27 05:17
DaemonFCnothing moreJun 27 05:17
DaemonFChe's the worst one I've seen thoughJun 27 05:17
Chips_B_Malroywhich is a scary thought if wma had won outJun 27 05:17
DaemonFCeven MS MVPs usually can't recommend IE with a straight faceJun 27 05:17
Chips_B_Malroyseen a lot of wma on computers I had to clean the windows malware on for peopleJun 27 05:18
Chips_B_Malroywma=porn  mostlyJun 27 05:18
Chips_B_Malroy=malwareJun 27 05:18
DaemonFCMicrosoft doesn't even want the Zune at this pointJun 27 05:19
DaemonFCthe only reason they're still making them is so they don't have to admit they lostJun 27 05:19
Chips_B_MalroyBaller doesJun 27 05:19
DaemonFClose money or admit defeatJun 27 05:19
DaemonFCbad choicesJun 27 05:19
cubezzzwma very often means DRM tooJun 27 05:19
Chips_B_MalroyIts part of Ballmer and Gate's 3 screens and cloud visionJun 27 05:20
DaemonFCsooner or later the shareholders will make Microsoft get rid of the ZuneJun 27 05:20
Chips_B_Malroyand they know that their vision is never wrongJun 27 05:20
cubezzzbah their hayday is overJun 27 05:20
DaemonFCeven the XBOX comes close to breaking even, close enough to string the investors alongJun 27 05:20
DaemonFCZune doesn't even give them thatJun 27 05:20
Chips_B_Malroythey will waste many more billions on their vision.  this is a good thing, as it weakens MS more.Jun 27 05:21
DaemonFCI'd like to know how much they paid OperaJun 27 05:21
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 05:21
Chips_B_MalroyRoy this is a link you might have, its a link for links:  http://www.internetnews.com/newslinx/Jun 27 05:22
TechrightsTitle: Newslinx: Information Technology Headlines From Around The Web .::. Size~: 149.24 KBJun 27 05:22
Chips_B_Malroyhave lots of linksJun 27 05:23
DaemonFCBing is lurking about in the Linux version of Opera tooJun 27 05:23
DaemonFC:PJun 27 05:23
Chips_B_MalroyI should add Bing to my host fileJun 27 05:24
Chips_B_Malroy127.0.0.1Jun 27 05:24
DaemonFChttp://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.bing.comJun 27 05:25
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.techweb.com/article/showArticle?articleID=225701518&section=newsJun 27 05:28
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Chips_B_MalroyWindows Phone 7 An 'Ad Machine'? No Thanks Jun 27 05:28
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eskTA5fURW8Jun 27 05:28
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- FUTURAMA - WINDOWS VISTA .::. Size~: 86.9 KBJun 27 05:28
DaemonFCthey changed the line to "Windows 7" on the episode on DVD and in syndicationJun 27 05:29
Chips_B_Malroy"Even though advertising pays my bills, I can't stand ads. Ads on mobile devices are even worse. They are intrusive and get in the way of content. The end effect is a ticked off user. That's why I am concerned about remarks recently made by Microsoft about its nascent smartphone platform."Jun 27 05:29
DaemonFCyes, who doesn't like a phone full of ads when they're only paying hundreds of dollars a month for it tooJun 27 05:30
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 05:30
DaemonFCand you know they'll count the ads towards your bandwidth quotaJun 27 05:31
Chips_B_MalroyLeave it to MS to put adsJun 27 05:31
Chips_B_Malroywell yesJun 27 05:31
Chips_B_Malroyyou going pay the bandwidth for adsJun 27 05:31
DaemonFCwatch it cause like $20 in overages just to show you the adsJun 27 05:32
DaemonFCyou call and complain and all they offer to do is upsell you to a more expensive plan with more bandwidthJun 27 05:33
DaemonFCI could see that happeningJun 27 05:33
Chips_B_Malroyjust one more reason for WinMo to dieJun 27 05:33
Chips_B_MalroyI should just call it CEJun 27 05:33
cubezzzI don't think about Microsoft much anymoreJun 27 05:34
DaemonFCjust watch, most people won't even know it's the ads causing the overagesJun 27 05:34
Chips_B_MalroyCrapEmbeddedJun 27 05:34
DaemonFCthey'll just go along with itJun 27 05:34
cubezzzwhen win95 came out, I knew they were badJun 27 05:34
DaemonFCI liked Windows 95Jun 27 05:34
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 05:35
DaemonFCjust not 98/Me, or VistaJun 27 05:35
DaemonFCXP was passableJun 27 05:35
DaemonFCI ended up using Windows 2000 though for a long timeJun 27 05:35
DaemonFCXP RTM was the devilJun 27 05:35
cubezzzof course now I know they were always bad, right from the altair daysJun 27 05:35
Chips_B_Malroyone more master link, a link page to many other sites:  http://www.hotsheet.com/Jun 27 05:35
TechrightsTitle: Hot Sheet web directory - news, travel, shopping mall, finance, super search and more .::. Size~: 78.67 KBJun 27 05:35
cubezzzno one betterJun 27 05:35
cubezzzno one knows better I mean :)Jun 27 05:36
DaemonFCXP didn't really start to settle down until 3 years after it went up for sale (SP2)Jun 27 05:36
DaemonFCI only moved to XP after SP2 was outJun 27 05:36
DaemonFCbefore SP1, you were getting program compatibility errors left and rightJun 27 05:37
DaemonFCon stuff that ran fine on 2000 and 98Jun 27 05:37
Chips_B_MalroyI hated 95.  NT4 was ok, 2000 and XP.  But with XP Gates really started to throw in way too much DRM and WGA Jun 27 05:37
cubezzzlol I hated all windows, every version I tried I _hated_Jun 27 05:38
DaemonFChttp://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=apple.comJun 27 05:39
TechrightsTitle: Site report for apple.com .::. Size~: 9.93 KBJun 27 05:39
DaemonFCApple hides what they useJun 27 05:39
Chips_B_MalroyWill they ever fix Windows?  By that I mean make it somewhat secure, with a true limited user account.Jun 27 05:39
DaemonFC(probably not Apple software)Jun 27 05:39
Chips_B_MalroyWhat I am thinking is that MS has to do this.  Or users will leave as the malware problem gets worse.Jun 27 05:41
Chips_B_Malroyin windows 8 or 9Jun 27 05:41
DaemonFCUAC ftwJun 27 05:41
DaemonFCblip blip blipJun 27 05:41
DaemonFC:PJun 27 05:41
cubezzzmy advice to everyone is get off the Microsoft crackJun 27 05:41
Chips_B_MalroyBut then, if Ballmer is still at the helm?Jun 27 05:41
cubezzzit's no goodJun 27 05:41
Chips_B_MalroyUAC is not a true limited user accountJun 27 05:42
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cubezzzthe Unix design has triumphedJun 27 05:42
cubezzzit's just taking everyone donkey's ages to realize itJun 27 05:43
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.electronista.com/articles/10/06/26/leak.confirms.kin.one.and.two.price.changes/Jun 27 05:45
cubezzzjust a shame we didn't have real FOSS in the 80'sJun 27 05:45
TechrightsTitle: Verizon already cutting Kin prices in half | Electronista .::. Size~: 71.59 KBJun 27 05:45
DaemonFCa Windows 7 on every computer, 2 UAC blips in every installerJun 27 05:45
DaemonFCthat's Ballmer's dreamJun 27 05:45
cubezzzyou kept complaining about windows, and yet you still kept using itJun 27 05:46
Chips_B_Malroy"The slipped out information is the first sign, if still unconfirmed, of problems with Kin sales. Neither Microsoft nor Verizon has reported sales since it went on sale in mid-May, but suspicions have been raised of low sales virtually since launch."Jun 27 05:46
DaemonFCcubezzz: It's like marriage or the armyJun 27 05:53
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.techspot.com/news/39433-download-of-the-week-smplayer.htmlJun 27 05:53
TechrightsTitle: Download of the Week: SMPlayer - TechSpot News .::. Size~: 36.83 KBJun 27 05:53
DaemonFCMicrosoft managed to tweak something around to break uxstyle patching in memoryJun 27 05:55
DaemonFCniceJun 27 05:55
Chips_B_MalroyMS has always spent more time trying to break the competitons products with windows, than improving windows.  Take DRDOS as an example, running it  with Win3xJun 27 06:00
Chips_B_MalroyMS is more about control, and unethical business practices than improving its softwareJun 27 06:01
cubezzzChips_B_Malroy, fortunately now we can do the same to MicrosoftJun 27 06:03
cubezzzthere is FreeDosJun 27 06:03
cubezzzeverything I've tried with it has worked fineJun 27 06:04
cubezzzeven if you compare old Linux to win95 on the same hardware, old Linux winsJun 27 06:05
cubezzzthe only thing was you had to be a 'tinkerer'Jun 27 06:05
cubezzzif you weren't willing to learn and to tinker, you would simply stick with windows or worse, just have windows shoved down your throatJun 27 06:06
Chips_B_Malroyyes, Freedos is good.  And so is Dosbox in LinuxJun 27 06:07
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://vista.blorge.com/2010/06/09/researchers-claim-fundamental-flaw-in-windows-7/Jun 27 06:12
TechrightsTitle: Researchers claim fundamental flaw in Windows 7 - WINDOWS.BLORGE .::. Size~: 49.66 KBJun 27 06:12
tessierDiscovering a fundamental flaw in Windows is not really news.Jun 27 06:36
Chips_B_Malroyyes, its probably old Jun 27 06:38
cubezzzthe tessier relay computer will be flawless though :)Jun 27 06:39
cubezzzbut noisyJun 27 06:39
tessierDefinitelyJun 27 06:39
cubezzzI feel like checking out YggdrasilJun 27 06:42
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cubezzzI was told Linux 1.0 didn't have X but Yggdrasil was pre version 1 and it did have XJun 27 06:44
cubezzzand it ran in 8 megs of ramJun 27 06:45
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_QuimbyJun 27 06:55
TechrightsTitle: Harriet Quimby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 49.16 KBJun 27 06:55
DaemonFCcubezzz: I don't know why ATI did a whole new 2d acceleration systemJun 27 06:56
DaemonFCit works fine, certainly  better than the old acceleration systemJun 27 06:56
DaemonFCbut it just kind of seems to me like worrying about how the lawn looks in a trailer parkJun 27 06:57
DaemonFCif your desktop is faster and crashes less great, but you still have problems when you go to use a 3d applicationJun 27 06:57
DaemonFCso yayJun 27 06:57
DaemonFCthey did manage to get rid of one of my all time biggest ATI shit list bugs thoughJun 27 06:58
DaemonFCwindow resizing and compizJun 27 06:58
DaemonFCUbuntu actually doesn't show the window contents when you drag to resizeJun 27 06:59
cubezzzthis is funny:Jun 27 06:59
DaemonFCand I think that's ONLY due to ATI's old 2d systemJun 27 06:59
cubezzz"Even reading the screen over the user's shoulder is very hard when Tinfoil Hat is switched to paranoid mode, which sets the screen to a very low contrast."Jun 27 06:59
DaemonFCcubezzz: You can put one of those screen guard things on there like the bank usesJun 27 06:59
DaemonFCso you can't peek around and look at all the horrible things they've said about you in the "Big File"Jun 27 07:00
DaemonFC:DJun 27 07:00
DaemonFCcubezzz: I'd really love to see what a federal government office can pull up about meJun 27 07:01
DaemonFClike, in other words, I'd like to have 5 minutes to look over what comes up if you punch my SSN into a Social Security terminalJun 27 07:01
DaemonFCthey're really really vague, and they don't want you to see the info they have on youJun 27 07:02
cubezzzbah, I need an old old cdromJun 27 07:02
DaemonFCit's like psychiatrists don't want the patient to see the chartJun 27 07:02
*DaemonFC hates the energy saver mode on his air conditionerJun 27 07:03
*DaemonFC finally got sick of it coming on for 3 seconds and going off for 10 seconds or so over and over again and just set in on F2/70 degreesJun 27 07:04
DaemonFCGAH!!!!Jun 27 07:04
*DaemonFC rips his hair out and jumps around the room naked screaming HOO HOO!!!!!Jun 27 07:04
DaemonFCShoot me, I'm an elk!!!Jun 27 07:04
DaemonFCduck season!Jun 27 07:04
DaemonFCwabbit season!!Jun 27 07:04
DaemonFCI say it's duck season, FIRE!!!!Jun 27 07:04
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 07:04
DaemonFCdid I mention the energy saver setting is annoying?Jun 27 07:05
DaemonFCjust slightlyJun 27 07:05
DaemonFCand it makes the room smell like a cryptJun 27 07:06
cubezzzcoolJun 27 07:06
DaemonFCwhat is the point of an energy saver setting that drives anyone that wants to save some energy so crazy that they turn it off?Jun 27 07:06
DaemonFCit's like Windows defaulting to sending the system to Sleep Mode every 30 minutes of inactivityJun 27 07:07
DaemonFCeven Ubuntu can figure out if it's on a laptop or notJun 27 07:07
DaemonFCwhy can't Windows?Jun 27 07:07
cubezzzthe price of old computer parts is going upJun 27 07:08
cubezzzbahJun 27 07:08
cubezzzif only I had a SCSI controller, I have a whole stack of SCSI 50 pin drivesJun 27 07:08
cubezzzI wonder...Jun 27 07:09
DaemonFCthe landlord bit my head off over power usage, then I told him to look at the meter numberJun 27 07:09
DaemonFCand go visit my neighbor that keeps hers so low you can see your breathJun 27 07:09
cubezzzthere was the CT18170 cardJun 27 07:12
cubezzzer, CT1870Jun 27 07:13
*DaemonFC throws cubezzz into his neighbors apartment so he can freeze to death while being sexually abused by a 50 something year old alcoholic chain smokerJun 27 07:13
DaemonFCbahahahaJun 27 07:13
DaemonFCdie damn you!!!!Jun 27 07:13
DaemonFC:DJun 27 07:13
cubezzzthat sounds very grimJun 27 07:14
DaemonFCyepJun 27 07:15
DaemonFCdon't worry, she's probably preoccupied with the child molester felon that the Indiana correctional system let out after 8 years in his 20 year sentenceJun 27 07:16
DaemonFCshe hardly ever cheats on himJun 27 07:16
DaemonFConly twice in the last month to my knowledgeJun 27 07:16
DaemonFCsometimes I think about moving to a trailer parkJun 27 07:17
DaemonFCsame neighborsJun 27 07:17
DaemonFClower rentJun 27 07:17
*DaemonFC hates his landlordJun 27 07:17
*DaemonFC liked this place better before the economy collapsedJun 27 07:18
Chips_B_Malroygn, hang in thereJun 27 07:19
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*DaemonFC hooks cubezzz up with this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j60-nsS8ZA&feature=relatedJun 27 07:20
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Vista is WAY Faster Than Linux .::. Size~: 88.58 KBJun 27 07:20
DaemonFCtrailer park LinkJun 27 07:20
DaemonFC:DJun 27 07:20
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DaemonFCdammit, now I'm whistling the Zelda themeJun 27 07:21
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgbR_GWzWWsJun 27 07:22
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Phil Côté's "NES Zelda in 25:29" .::. Size~: 92.59 KBJun 27 07:22
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkPSDBlLO_oJun 27 07:23
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DaemonFCheheJun 27 07:23
DaemonFCone of my favoritesJun 27 07:23
DaemonFCcubezzz: NES hooked up to a 32" LCD ftwJun 27 07:25
DaemonFC:DJun 27 07:25
cubezzzdamn it, no I have no ISA controllerJun 27 07:25
cubezzzI guess it's the CT1870 thenJun 27 07:25
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ff4FjDQ70I&feature=relatedJun 27 07:28
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Mario Paint In Da Club (50 Cent) .::. Size~: 93.99 KBJun 27 07:28
DaemonFCoh god noJun 27 07:28
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TZo-HAx540&feature=relatedJun 27 07:30
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Mario Paint - Feel Good Inc ( Gorillaz ) .::. Size~: 88.9 KBJun 27 07:30
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk-_zJr2Bxo&feature=relatedJun 27 07:32
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv1ouNH2fbk&feature=relatedJun 27 07:32
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Star Wars - Cantina Band v2 in mario paint composer .::. Size~: 94.5 KBJun 27 07:32
*DaemonFC just killed an earwigJun 27 07:35
*DaemonFC mails it to that company that makes candy hears so they can extract its earwig honeyJun 27 07:35
DaemonFC*heartsJun 27 07:35
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EeYXOxyw3sJun 27 07:41
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Doom 64 - Level 17 - Watch your Step .::. Size~: 93.14 KBJun 27 07:41
DaemonFCwhy was Doom 64 hates so?Jun 27 07:41
DaemonFC*hatedJun 27 07:41
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0tT-ItCtbU&feature=PlayList&p=52230FC402EC3EEB&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1Jun 27 07:43
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Doom 3 - Boss Fight 1 .::. Size~: 93.24 KBJun 27 07:43
DaemonFCcubezzz: The Linux version of Doom 3 is terribleJun 27 07:44
DaemonFCI ended up running the Windows version in Wine because it had a better framerate :)Jun 27 07:44
DaemonFCthe Guardian of Hell was actually tougher than the CyberdemonJun 27 07:45
DaemonFCbut I didn't have many BFG rounds when I got to the GuardianJun 27 07:45
DaemonFChttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365723,00.aspJun 27 07:51
TechrightsTitle:         Rumor: Firmware Update to Alleviate iPhone "Death Grip" | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com     .::. Size~: 76.21 KBJun 27 07:51
DaemonFCcubezzz: I'm no expert, but it seems to me that a firmware upgrade can't alter the fact that your hand can short out the actual antenna in the deviceJun 27 07:52
DaemonFCperhaps the update delivers a shock and yells "Don't touch me there man!"?Jun 27 07:52
DaemonFC:DJun 27 07:52
DaemonFChttp://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2010/06/27/is-it-just-me-or-does-the-playstation-move-controller-look-like-a-battery-operated-sex-toy/Jun 27 07:59
TechrightsTitle: Is it just me or does the Playstation Move controller look like a battery operated sex toy? « Ryans Blog .::. Size~: 40.02 KBJun 27 07:59
DaemonFCheheJun 27 07:59
schestowitz"Seems very speculative to me. In order to write a majority opinion, one must first be part of the majority on a case." http://identi.ca/conversation/38060686#notice-38312603Jun 27 08:32
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schestowitz1 day before BilskiJun 27 08:33
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Opera development has picked up a lotJun 27 08:36
DaemonFCI'm wondering just how much money they got from MicrosoftJun 27 08:36
DaemonFCschestowitz: I found out what was pissing my modem offJun 27 08:39
DaemonFCWindows "auto-tuning" the receive windowJun 27 08:39
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schestowitz"[PJ: The above is the entire AP news alert article. Yet, it's marked:"Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved." Are they kidding? All rights to what? A fact? See anything creative in the sentence? It's beyond ridiculous.] "Jun 27 08:47
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ijDA5bgxiHlTvS_r-SSjskS1Tq1wD9GGP3C00Jun 27 08:47
TechrightsTitle: The Associated Press: APNewsAlert .::. Size~: 5.71 KBJun 27 08:47
schestowitz:-)Jun 27 08:47
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't even start up on this systemJun 27 08:54
schestowitzBas system thenJun 27 08:54
schestowitz*badJun 27 08:54
DaemonFCno, it's a bug in UbuntuJun 27 08:54
schestowitzTell jono, not meJun 27 08:54
DaemonFCit fails to recognize the video adapter and bailsJun 27 08:54
schestowitzuse twitter-jonobaconJun 27 08:55
schestowitzI've been thinking...Jun 27 08:55
schestowitzWhat if I stopped syndicating Microsoft news?Jun 27 08:55
schestowitzI mean, they hardly matter nowJun 27 08:55
schestowitzIn the past I was at least keeping track of a company which was relevantJun 27 08:55
schestowitzNow they are allegedly selling just 500 kin phonesJun 27 08:56
schestowitzthe competition changedJun 27 08:56
DaemonFCI think it would be more than thatJun 27 08:56
schestowitzI guess what I'm trying to say is, would less focus on Microsoft at Techrights be OK?Jun 27 08:56
DaemonFCmehJun 27 08:56
schestowitzSince 2008 I focused on itJun 27 08:56
schestowitzC'mon, say what you think...Jun 27 08:57
DaemonFCwell, it's not like it's possible to ignore themJun 27 08:57
DaemonFCwhen the things they do corrupt the PC right down to how hardware gets designedJun 27 08:58
DaemonFC(designed around limitations in Windows)Jun 27 08:58
DaemonFCthose new large sector hard drives that have to emulate obsolete behavior to keep from crashing XP for exampleJun 27 08:58
DaemonFCthey don't even sell XP anymoreJun 27 08:59
DaemonFCwhy is hardware being designed around limitations in 10 year old OS software?Jun 27 08:59
schestowitzI told you, ask UbuntuJun 27 09:00
schestowitzYou're veering off topic in a wayJun 27 09:00
DaemonFCask them why a hard disk maker is compensating for Windows XP?Jun 27 09:00
schestowitzThis is a technical issueJun 27 09:00
DaemonFCthey have to design BIOS ROMs around glitches in WindowsJun 27 09:01
DaemonFCnobody worries about if Linux kernel panicsJun 27 09:01
DaemonFCGPUs are largely designed around the way Windows interacts with themJun 27 09:02
DaemonFCleading to worse performance in LinuxJun 27 09:02
DaemonFCx86 pc is a pretty hostile environment for FOSS operating systemsJun 27 09:02
DaemonFCwhen you think about itJun 27 09:03
DaemonFCthe fact they work as often as they do is in spite of the various problems you run into with the PC itself from the moment you hit the power buttonJun 27 09:03
DaemonFCI think that in order for Linux to work as well as possible, non-x86 PC devices are going to have to become more mainstreamJun 27 09:04
DaemonFCthe x86 PC is pretty welded to Windows and OS XJun 27 09:05
schestowitzPropaganda minister: http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/26/microsoft-numbers/Jun 27 09:05
cubezzznot reallyJun 27 09:05
TechrightsTitle:   Decoding Microsofts Fantastic Passive-Agressive Numbers Post  .::. Size~: 119.66 KBJun 27 09:05
cubezzzintel basically made the first cpu by customer requestJun 27 09:05
DaemonFCIntel makes some pretty horrible thingsJun 27 09:06
cubezzz"hey, we want a cpu on one chip, make one"Jun 27 09:06
DaemonFCI've never had an Intel system I enjoyed usingJun 27 09:06
DaemonFCeven with WindowsJun 27 09:06
cubezzzwow, I guess you need to try Sun thenJun 27 09:06
DaemonFCthe last Intel system that even worked right most of the time has a 233 Mhz Pentium IIJun 27 09:06
DaemonFCfor me anywayJun 27 09:07
DaemonFCsome people like Intel and some people like LSDJun 27 09:07
DaemonFCsome people get off by choking themselvesJun 27 09:07
DaemonFCI think they use IntelJun 27 09:07
schestowitzhttp://jon.oberheide.org/blog/2010/06/25/remote-kill-and-install-on-google-android/Jun 27 09:07
TechrightsTitle: jon.oberheide.org - blog - remote kill and install on google android .::. Size~: 10.92 KBJun 27 09:07
schestowitzAndroid is a bit evil tooJun 27 09:07
DaemonFCintel = overheating, bad performance, system crashes for no apparent explainable reasonsJun 27 09:08
DaemonFCexpensive hardware (price/performance)Jun 27 09:08
cubezzzummm, I think I mentioned my 17 year old still working Intel cpu machine?Jun 27 09:08
DaemonFCand you can't even say that they actually support linux totallyJun 27 09:08
cubezzznot to mention my intel 8085 cpu which still worksJun 27 09:08
cubezzzfrom 1983Jun 27 09:08
DaemonFCbecause a lot of the drivers they churn out are only FOSS to a pointJun 27 09:08
cubezzzyou must be in an alternate universe or somethingJun 27 09:09
DaemonFCAMD hardware just works a lot betterJun 27 09:09
cubezzzI guess you just like complaining all the timeJun 27 09:09
DaemonFCIntel only has one range of products that work wellJun 27 09:09
DaemonFCand that's their most expensive thingsJun 27 09:09
DaemonFClike if you want to go buy an i9, you'll probably love itJun 27 09:10
cubezzzolder intel chips were fineJun 27 09:10
DaemonFCactually, the only people I hear say they're happy with Intel are using a $500 Intel CPUJun 27 09:11
DaemonFCand at that range, you better keep the customer happyJun 27 09:11
cubezzzguess what, no computer is perfectJun 27 09:11
cubezzzreally I can't complain about intel cpusJun 27 09:11
DaemonFCthe stuff Intel makes that's actually affordable really blowsJun 27 09:12
DaemonFCthey cripple it to deathJun 27 09:12
DaemonFCin subtle waysJun 27 09:12
cubezzzso you get what you pay for, big surpriseJun 27 09:12
DaemonFCand it's too expensive for what it doesJun 27 09:12
cubezzzI've ran this p3 since at least 2000Jun 27 09:12
DaemonFCyou should be able to buy an entire PC for the cost of just the board and CPU if you want decent Intel stuffJun 27 09:12
cubezzzthat's 10 yearsJun 27 09:12
cubezzzit's _never_ overheatedJun 27 09:13
DaemonFCWalmart has gotten rid of Intel in everything in stock, because it drives up the total cost of the system too muchJun 27 09:13
DaemonFCand Intel's budget CPUs were leading to massive return ratesJun 27 09:13
DaemonFChigh failure rates are a good way to get on Wal-Mart's bad side if you have a competitor with more reliable productsJun 27 09:14
DaemonFCWal-Mart doesn't *like* having to pile tons of defective merchandise in the back room waiting to get credited by the supplierJun 27 09:15
DaemonFCPCs are the worst, because those have to be shipped backJun 27 09:15
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] !techrights identi.ca group started. !floss !foss !fs !linux !gnu !freeJun 27 09:15
DaemonFCyou can't just toss it in the garbage compactor and tell the OEM to send you a check for itJun 27 09:15
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 09:16
DaemonFCThe only reason Wal-Mart is tolerating the XBOX 360 is because Microsoft pays them plenty to put up with itJun 27 09:17
DaemonFCand their rep comes and collects the returns every weekJun 27 09:17
DaemonFCPC returns have to go back to the distribution center and from there, to the OEM's return centerJun 27 09:18
DaemonFCit makes for a logistics nightmareJun 27 09:18
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schestowitzDaemonFC: http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/211638.aspJun 27 09:22
TechrightsTitle: Bing to be search option in Opera browser .::. Size~: 68.52 KBJun 27 09:22
schestowitzBut....Jun 27 09:22
schestowitzTheir downloads also doubledJun 27 09:23
schestowitzSo I guess they do OK after the CEO leftJun 27 09:23
schestowitzAnd they can do more on development, for the European crowd and maybe phonesJun 27 09:23
DaemonFCthis guy is an idiotJun 27 09:23
DaemonFCChrome offers BingJun 27 09:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: The Bing speed dial box was irritating meJun 27 09:24
DaemonFCbecause I would open a new tab and type a search in it , not thinking about itJun 27 09:25
DaemonFCand get Bing and not GoogleJun 27 09:25
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm not buying that story about their downloads doublingJun 27 09:25
DaemonFCno browser stats actually show Opera budging from where it was at before the browser ballotJun 27 09:26
DaemonFCit's still hovering at about 2%Jun 27 09:26
DaemonFCoddly enough, the one showing that Opera has maybe grown a little over the past year is Net ApplicationsJun 27 09:27
DaemonFCdo I think they make a great browser? yeahJun 27 09:28
DaemonFCdo I believe they're growing (at least on the desktop), maybe a littleJun 27 09:28
DaemonFCI think they're exaggerating Jun 27 09:28
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Creative Commons responds to ASCAP lies http://ur1.ca/0e0s3Jun 27 09:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #techrights Readers' Input Wanted, Regarding #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/0e5yd Poll time - deciding on the site's focusJun 27 09:46
TechrightsTitle: Readers Input Wanted, Regarding Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.13 KBJun 27 09:46
schestowitzCould you guys please vote right now? ^^ it takes a few seconds to just tap "yes" or "no"Jun 27 09:46
tessiervite where?Jun 27 09:47
tessieroh, I seeJun 27 09:47
tessieruhJun 27 09:48
tessierI just voted. And I think my vote was registered opposite what I clicked on.Jun 27 09:48
tessierHad I not been the first to vote it would not have been obvious.Jun 27 09:48
schestowitzOh wait..Jun 27 09:48
schestowitzWe have varnishJun 27 09:48
schestowitzI'll need to change settings..Jun 27 09:48
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techrights Readers' Input Wanted, Regarding #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/0e5yd Poll time - deciding on the site's focusJun 27 09:50
TechrightsTitle: Readers Input Wanted, Regarding Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.13 KBJun 27 09:50
schestowitzHmmm...Jun 27 09:51
schestowitzI made it registered users onlyJun 27 09:51
schestowitzIt's the only way to get around the Varnish issueJun 27 09:51
tessierI can tell varnish not to cache the poll url if there is one.Jun 27 09:51
tessierLike we did for some other part of the site IIRCJun 27 09:51
schestowitzOhJun 27 09:55
schestowitzWell, I was going to update the post anywayJun 27 09:55
schestowitzI guess it's not neededJun 27 09:55
schestowitzIt's also good to ask registered users (~2000 listed) so that trolls can't abuse the pollJun 27 09:55
tessierThat is trueJun 27 09:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] We have a little problem with the poll because caching makes all visitors’ requests be funneled through the same IP address. #techrightsJun 27 09:57
tessierAh, so that is the issue.Jun 27 09:57
schestowitztessier: yeah :-)Jun 27 09:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] To comment and vote in the poll at http://ur1.ca/0e5yd , please create a user account at #techrightsJun 27 09:58
TechrightsTitle: Readers Input Wanted, Regarding Microsoft (Updated) | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.25 KBJun 27 09:58
schestowitzI was worried about trolls votingJun 27 09:58
schestowitzI guess it's better to have fewer eligible voters who at least care about the site. Some lurkers are hostileJun 27 09:59
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We have a little problem with the poll because caching makes all visitors’ requests be funneled through the same IP address. !techrightsJun 27 10:00
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To comment and vote in the poll at http://ur1.ca/0e5yd , please create a user account at !techrightsJun 27 10:00
TechrightsTitle: Readers Input Wanted, Regarding Microsoft (Updated) | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.25 KBJun 27 10:00
schestowitzOdd... it picks up the items from identica too..Jun 27 10:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Musing about learning by doing - http://bit.ly/bAa8qP good summary of key trends #sharing #makers #collaborationJun 27 10:14
TechrightsTitle: Musing about learning by doing  confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 45.82 KBJun 27 10:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Creative Commons Responds to ASCAP - http://bit.ly/cvlvhP not that FUD like that deserves one #ascap #fud #ccJun 27 10:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Toward a new Alexandria - http://bit.ly/a6rN27 excellent piece: the barrier is outdated copyright law #libraries #copyrightJun 27 10:27
TechrightsTitle: Toward a new Alexandria | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 80.6 KBJun 27 10:27
schestowitzhttp://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lausd-20100623,0,1358741.storyJun 27 10:29
TechrightsTitle: Education: L.A. Unified hires Gates Foundation official as deputy superintendent - latimes.com .::. Size~: 125.71 KBJun 27 10:29
schestowitzOh, look... Gates now owns CA schoolsJun 27 10:30
schestowitzWhy does a charity need PR agencies? http://ur1.ca/0e655Jun 27 10:31
TechrightsTitle: Gates Foundation picks Weber Shandwick to handle global comms «  Arun Sudhaman .::. Size~: 34.79 KBJun 27 10:31
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cubezzzman, 2.2 is all differentJun 27 10:48
cubezzzlinux is really fluidJun 27 10:48
cubezzzfinally got sound working thoughJun 27 10:49
schestowitzhttp://www.naturalnews.com/029071_Bill_Gates_GM_seeds.htmlJun 27 10:50
TechrightsTitle: Bill Gates now pushing genetically modified seeds in Africa .::. Size~: 45.81 KBJun 27 10:50
cubezzzthe docs kind of suck in 2.2 Jun 27 10:50
cubezzzI thought they weren't great in 2.4, but 2.2 is worseJun 27 10:51
cubezzzno history in the shell eitherJun 27 10:51
cubezzzthis is a bit like when I first tried minixJun 27 10:52
cubezzzbut not quite as difficultJun 27 10:52
cubezzzand there's a million different howto's but you need to find the right howto for your eraJun 27 10:53
schestowitzDid I make it sound like the poll is at identica?/?Jun 27 11:03
schestowitzJust got this baffling messag:Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> Can you put a poll up on your site instead?  A lot of CMS software doesJun 27 11:03
schestowitz> have polling modules.Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> I, like many others, have no interest in ever using Identica and wouldJun 27 11:03
schestowitz> actually prefer to start a campaign to abandon the walled garden.  EvenJun 27 11:03
schestowitz> ignoring the problem of walled gardens (identified in the 1990's)Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> registration to a *second* site is quite a barrier.Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> Alternately, you could post the questions as an article and have peopleJun 27 11:03
schestowitz> answer in the comments.Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2010/06/27/techrights-focus-poll/Jun 27 11:03
TechrightsTitle: Readers Input Wanted, Regarding Microsoft (Updated) | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.25 KBJun 27 11:03
schestowitz> Jun 27 11:03
schestowitz> Great work.Jun 27 11:03
schestowitzThe poll *is* on my site. Just scroll down and you'll see. The identi.ca thing is totally unrelated.Jun 27 11:03
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schestowitzhttp://www.crn.com/software/225701107Jun 27 12:07
TechrightsTitle: Google's Chrome OS Ventures Into Windows' Turf - Software - IT Channel News by CRN .::. Size~: 68.95 KBJun 27 12:07
schestowitzWhy just Dell?Jun 27 12:07
schestowitzhttp://www.crn.com/security/225701100Jun 27 12:08
TechrightsTitle: Apple iOS 4 Patches Might Not Cover iPad Users - Security - IT Channel News by CRN .::. Size~: 71.29 KBJun 27 12:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] So far the #techrights poll (only open to registered users) shows that people overwhelmingly want Microsoft to be monitoredJun 27 12:12
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So far the !techrights poll (only open to registered users) shows that people overwhelmingly want Microsoft to be monitoredJun 27 12:13
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oiaohmdell does work in the Linux kernel.  Pays to be on good terms with dell.  schestowitzJun 27 12:16
cubezzzwow plip really kills the cpuJun 27 12:16
cubezzzgood thing this is a dualJun 27 12:17
cubezzzcome on, dell sucksJun 27 12:17
cubezzzseriouslyJun 27 12:17
cubezzz"Dell recommends Windows 7"Jun 27 12:17
cubezzzDell isn't a great Linux advocateJun 27 12:18
cubezzzI'd like to see just one OEM really do the Linux thingJun 27 12:18
cubezzzah, better get a couple hours of zzz's before it's too lateJun 27 12:19
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cubezzzSharp > DellJun 27 12:20
cubezzzstill, Sharp isn't idealJun 27 12:21
cubezzzbetter than Dell thoughJun 27 12:21
cubezzzor maybe Japanese companies in generalJun 27 12:23
cubezzzEpson's pretty decentJun 27 12:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I'm a trading card! http://craphound.com/?p=2990 (plus appearing in #Baltimore today, #DC tomorrow!)Jun 27 12:25
Diablo-D3epson sucksJun 27 12:25
TechrightsTitle: Cory Doctorows craphound.com  >> Blog Archive   » Geek Trading Card, appearing Baltimore today, DC tomorrow .::. Size~: 19.85 KBJun 27 12:25
schestowitzFor Linux tooJun 27 12:39
schestowitzcubezzz: Dell is paid to recommend Vista and Vista 7Jun 27 12:39
schestowitzRemember: Dell 'recommended' Vista even while it publicly complained about it ad offered XP :-Jun 27 12:40
schestowitzMicrosoft pays for these bogus recommendationsJun 27 12:40
schestowitzMichael Jackson recommends ReebokJun 27 12:40
schestowitzOr PepsiJun 27 12:40
schestowitzTIger Woods 'recommends' NikeJun 27 12:40
schestowitz"Yes, yes, I recommend you buy from this brand cause I get kickbacks for it, which I highly recommend :-) "Jun 27 12:41
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The "Microsoft Watch" Web site has been pretty dead for months, right after Joe Wilcox and Mary Jo Foley left itJun 27 12:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] RT @schestowitz Supporters of #Techrights can now join the new identica group: http://identi.ca/group/techrightsJun 27 12:59
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schestowitz"@schestowitz i think you should just do coverage based on the most important threats- if that means less microsoft or more microsoft, i don't know, so voting that way won't help (sorry if this complicates it a little)"Jun 27 13:01
schestowitzHmm... but I would like to know what people think.Jun 27 13:01
*MinceR_ is now known as MinceRJun 27 13:03
schestowitzDiablo-D3: rehttp://identi.ca/conversation/38115506#notice-38350131 "Monitored? I think people confued monitored with destroyed"Jun 27 13:05
TechrightsTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.92 KBJun 27 13:05
schestowitzBut how can you destroy without simply showing people why they should embargo?Jun 27 13:05
schestowitzThere are 3324 /registered/ subscribers at Techrights, but many spammers from .ru addressesJun 27 13:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] This modsecurity workshop *was* being fun until the moment we get to AdminConsole, which is proprietary and not even usable commercially.Jun 27 13:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I mean, the license even says it *will* be possible, which by definition isn't *right*now* .Jun 27 13:29
cubezzzschestowitz, yes :)Jun 27 14:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Looking at a rather good #!cbl lightweight and quick....feature will be taking longer since I'm testing how viable it is to post with my HTCJun 27 14:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Beautiful steamboat stationery for SailorTwain.com http://twitpic.com/20g2yoJun 27 15:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] A sign from Heaven (Angel with Vuvuzela on top of Berlin Cathedral) #worldcup #GER http://flic.kr/p/8dK9ChJun 27 15:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] That Stieglitz piece I just tweeted is dynamite. Hard nosed, expert economic tonic against hack and slash neocon budgetsJun 27 15:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @jay_lake: blog: [help|photos] Identifying Euro... http://bit.ly/dA7baq /help Jay identify this EU bldg his grandad photographedJun 27 15:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] Weekly Links #12 http://goo.gl/fb/NdnYrJun 27 16:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Me & Obama impersonator in fake Oval Office #ala10 http://twitpic.com/20gs89Jun 27 16:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] A Sign from Heaven? (Angel with Vuvuzela) [Flickr] http://goo.gl/fb/7OkwnJun 27 16:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Auto-enbookinator #ala10 http://twitpic.com/******Jun 27 16:39
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Tamil Internet conference photos : http://picasaweb.google.com/116692289208726033982/SemmozhiMaanadu#Jun 27 16:48
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] ♻ @eebrah: @lefty I don't have anything against #gay people. I just wanted you to go eat a bag of dicks. +1Jun 27 17:03
DeadSuperHeroAh, Ender.Jun 27 17:04
schestowitzhttp://office2010.microsoft.com/en-gb/word-help/support-for-the-opendocument-format-in-microsoft-office-2010-HA101878944.aspx "For more information on the level of support in ODF 1.1 for commonly used features of Office, see the links below. This shows which Office features are fully, partially, or not supported in the ODF 1.1 format."Jun 27 17:22
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schestowitzhttp://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=102353Jun 27 17:22
TechrightsTitle: OpenOffice.org Forum :: Email-based ODF-to-MSoffice converter? .::. Size~: 20.22 KBJun 27 17:22
schestowitz"Appears to offer TeX to ODF conversion support. Would be interesting to see how well this works." http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/Jun 27 17:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] FIFA uses traditionalism as pretext to refuse technology and more refs. Easy ways to manipulate games give power to those who pick the refs.Jun 27 17:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] The awesome power of suction + bookscanner = true love #ala10 http://yfrog.us/esizazJun 27 17:34
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sebsebsebHiJun 27 17:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Auto-enbookinator (take 2) http://twitpic.com/20hcoi #ala10Jun 27 17:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] What's a suitable "or best offer", y'think? http://is.gd/d6tny-Jun 27 17:46
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schestowitzRyan was right, it *does* look like a sex toy: http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/50375-microsofts-molyneux-says-playstation-move-just-like-wiiJun 27 17:54
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft's Molyneux says Playstation Move just like Wii | TG Daily .::. Size~: 45.76 KBJun 27 17:55
schestowitzsebsebseb: wbJun 27 17:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @fosspatents true, it was 2-2Jun 27 17:56
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DeadSuperHeroSigh, FS Daily is still down.Jun 27 17:58
DeadSuperHero=[Jun 27 17:58
DeadSuperHeroAnyone know why?Jun 27 17:58
schestowitzI wondered the same thingJun 27 18:02
schestowitzDeadSuperHero: are you done going against me and the site?Jun 27 18:02
DeadSuperHeroschestowitz: I gave up on that aaaages ago.Jun 27 18:02
schestowitzI just don't understand, why would people attack the same thing that defends them voluntarily?Jun 27 18:03
DeadSuperHeroIt is a contradiction.Jun 27 18:03
schestowitzI can see why Novell and Microsoft would antagonise meJun 27 18:03
schestowitzDeadSuperHero: many Americans lobby against single payerJun 27 18:03
schestowitzThe Rushes and Glens got people lobby against their own livesJun 27 18:03
schestowitzIt's funny if not sadJun 27 18:03
schestowitz"it's socialism... Obama is the anti-xri3st!!"Jun 27 18:04
DeadSuperHeroIt is sad, and there are things going on in this country that make me sick to my stomach.Jun 27 18:04
schestowitzIt can be worseJun 27 18:04
DeadSuperHeroIt's getting worse.Jun 27 18:05
schestowitzI spent 2 hours talking to a friend from Nigeria this afternoonJun 27 18:05
schestowitzThe people there are so miserable that they turn to religionJun 27 18:05
DeadSuperHeroBetween the insane amounts of corporate racketeering, lobbying, and sheer alteration of fact for corporate gain, I'll say that things are getting worse.Jun 27 18:05
schestowitzIn Nigeria some people go on for days without foodJun 27 18:05
DeadSuperHeroTrue.Jun 27 18:05
schestowitzOne of the world's most populated nationsJun 27 18:05
DeadSuperHeroBut in America, so many people eat themselves into obesity and diabetes.Jun 27 18:06
schestowitzExploited heavily by Europe and the USJun 27 18:06
DeadSuperHeroAnd then they blame everyone except for themselves.Jun 27 18:06
DeadSuperHeroAnd yes, this is very true.Jun 27 18:06
schestowitzSue RonaldJun 27 18:06
DeadSuperHeroReagan's dead.Jun 27 18:06
schestowitzHe tempted the kids to eat complex carbonsJun 27 18:06
schestowitzDeadSuperHero: McDonaldsJun 27 18:06
DeadSuperHeroOh, Ronald McDonalds.Jun 27 18:06
DeadSuperHero:PJun 27 18:06
schestowitzRonald McDonalds molests childrenJun 27 18:07
schestowitzIt's all over his face.. the way he smilesJun 27 18:07
DeadSuperHeroThe educational system molests children as well.Jun 27 18:07
DeadSuperHeroConsidering all the propaganda Texas is putting into the schoolbooks nowadays.Jun 27 18:07
DeadSuperHeroAnd the fact that many schools are shutting down their art programs, one of the ways kids can express themselves.Jun 27 18:08
DeadSuperHeroWorse things could be happeningJun 27 18:08
DeadSuperHerobut, it's not all that great either.Jun 27 18:09
schestowitzTeachers are the new PR agentsJun 27 18:09
schestowitzIf they don't do it, they get sacked and replaced by one of the hungry contingentsJun 27 18:09
DeadSuperHeroResearchers are, too.Jun 27 18:09
schestowitzGates uses the schools for PR nowJun 27 18:09
DeadSuperHeroThe manipulation done to these "independent study" groups is appalling.Jun 27 18:09
schestowitzDr. NuttJun 27 18:09
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=nutt+sacked&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8Jun 27 18:10
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DeadSuperHeroA company can just straight up alter facts, which then bloggers and journalists will pass on.Jun 27 18:10
DeadSuperHeroTruly Orwellian.Jun 27 18:10
DeadSuperHeroBut to answer your original question, no, I'm not against Techrights.Jun 27 18:11
schestowitzThere were some people who misrepresented usJun 27 18:18
schestowitzLuckily not been actively in a long timeJun 27 18:18
schestowitzYouTube has that issue too, where anonymous rude comments deface the videoJun 27 18:18
schestowitzThen the person making the video needs to denounce the threats/racism/insults/etcJun 27 18:19
DeadSuperHeroIt's happening more and more on YouTube.Jun 27 18:20
DeadSuperHeroAnd while it can be very fun for trolling, especially if one has a thick skin...Jun 27 18:20
DeadSuperHeroit does take away from intelligent conversation.Jun 27 18:20
schestowitzhttp://www.geekwithlaptop.com/americans-trust-technology-companies-more-than-social-networking-sitesJun 27 18:26
TechrightsTitle:  Americans trust technology companies more than social networking sites | Geek with Laptop .::. Size~: 28.79 KBJun 27 18:26
schestowitzOh, the ironyJun 27 18:26
schestowitzHow sadJun 27 18:26
schestowitzPeople trust corporations more than newsJun 27 18:26
DeadSuperHeroIt is strange.Jun 27 18:26
DeadSuperHeroI'm really hoping Diaspora, GNU Social, and some of the other FOSS social networking projects really start taking off soon though.Jun 27 18:27
DeadSuperHeroQuite exciting to see them all collaborating together.Jun 27 18:27
DeadSuperHeroAnd if it works with identi.ca, I'll finally have a compelling enough reason to leave Facebook.Jun 27 18:27
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/plastic-logic-que-e-reader-turns-into-vaporware/Jun 27 18:40
TechrightsTitle: Plastic Logic Que E-Reader Turns Into Vaporware | Gadget Lab | Wired.com .::. Size~: 66.28 KBJun 27 18:40
schestowitzhttp://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2010/06/26/plastic_logic_que_e_reader_delayed_for_second_timeJun 27 18:40
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schestowitzInteresting, I've never heard of itJun 27 18:40
schestowitz[18:27] <DeadSuperHero> I'm really hoping Diaspora, GNU Social, and some of the other FOSS social networking projects really start taking off soon though.Jun 27 18:41
schestowitzStatusNet do OKJun 27 18:41
DeadSuperHeroThem too.Jun 27 18:41
schestowitzAlthough he site is mostly a FOSS nicheJun 27 18:41
schestowitzNothing there group-wise except the FOSS peopleJun 27 18:41
DeadSuperHeroI like seeing all the little FOSS social network projects work together, though.Jun 27 18:41
schestowitzSame peopleJun 27 18:42
DeadSuperHeroAnd I don't mind identi.ca being mostly FOSS people. It works just fine for me.Jun 27 18:42
schestowitzSame goalsJun 27 18:42
schestowitzIt's where code comes fromJun 27 18:42
schestowitzNot consumerismJun 27 18:42
schestowitzGoogle 'brings it to market' with Android and 'stuff'Jun 27 18:42
schestowitzPeople using 'app shops' or whatever... that's not where technology is madeJun 27 18:42
DeadSuperHeroNot at all.Jun 27 18:42
schestowitzThe masses can be made to believe Microsoft has change, developers still resent the companyJun 27 18:43
schestowitzSo nobody develops for Vista Phone 7Jun 27 18:43
schestowitzMobile matter going forwardJun 27 18:43
DeadSuperHeroSomeone will.Jun 27 18:43
schestowitzFor payJun 27 18:43
schestowitzBribesJun 27 18:43
DeadSuperHeroYes.Jun 27 18:43
schestowitzhttp://www.ipadweek.ly/2010/06/microsoft-bribing-iphone-developers-to-build-windows-7-games/Jun 27 18:43
schestowitzhttp://www.iphonefootprint.com/2010/06/microsoft-iphone-game-developers/Jun 27 18:43
TechrightsTitle:   Microsoft Bribing iPhone Developers to Build Windows 7 Games | iPad Weekly .::. Size~: 28.77 KBJun 27 18:43
DeadSuperHeroJust like people develop for Apple phones.Jun 27 18:43
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft baits iPhone Game Developers with lucrative freebies | iPhone applications | iPhone Games | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Tips |iPhone News updated daily. | iPhone Footprint .::. Size~: 35.91 KBJun 27 18:43
schestowitzhttp://www.gamingunion.net/news/rumor-hulu-coming-to-playstation-network--2012.htmlJun 27 18:44
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DeadSuperHeroick.Jun 27 18:44
schestowitzhttp://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/705830/Rumor-of-the-Day-Hulu-Coming-To-PS3.htmlJun 27 18:44
schestowitzhttp://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/705830/Rumor-of-the-Day-Hulu-Coming-To-PS3.htmlJun 27 18:44
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DeadSuperHeroThis is why Creative Commons stuff goes so well hand-in-hand with the FOSS community.Jun 27 18:45
DeadSuperHeroI'm off, I need to go get a haircut.Jun 27 18:50
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schestowitzhttp://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/just-another-fish/blog/12552Jun 27 19:02
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dedoimedo has just turned 4. It is one of the best yet lesser-known Linux sites. http://www.dedoimedo.com/index.htmlJun 27 19:08
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schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0622/law-banning-sale-light-cigarettes-effect/Jun 27 19:11
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schestowitzNice shot of Palin. http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0622/writer-palins-home-town-job-deadly-force-quip/Jun 27 19:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Dedoimedo has just turned 4. It is one of the best yet lesser-known Linux sites. http://www.dedoimedo.com/index.htmlJun 27 19:11
TechrightsTitle:       A place to learn about computer software, security and games, popular physics, life, 3d art, models, and more     .::. Size~: 73 KBJun 27 19:11
schestowitzPalin for Pres. /lolJun 27 19:11
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schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0624/bloomberg-murdoch-team-immigration-battle/Jun 27 19:17
TechrightsTitle: Bloomberg, Murdoch team up on immigration battle |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 24.06 KBJun 27 19:17
schestowitzDiablo-D3: ^^Jun 27 19:17
schestowitzDaemonFC I meanJun 27 19:17
DaemonFCyeahJun 27 19:18
schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0625/taliban-behead-11-afghan-civilians-police/Jun 27 19:19
TechrightsTitle: Taliban behead 11 Afghan civilians: police |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 18.81 KBJun 27 19:19
DaemonFCnot surprisingJun 27 19:19
DaemonFCif they can flood the labor market with millions more people, it depresses wagesJun 27 19:19
DaemonFCif those people stay illegal, it depresses wagesJun 27 19:19
DaemonFCthey win either wayJun 27 19:19
schestowitzBut...Jun 27 19:20
schestowitzI had this conversation at the gym todayJun 27 19:20
schestowitzLabour did something similarJun 27 19:20
schestowitzAnd it also incentivised welfare lifeJun 27 19:21
DaemonFCschestowitz: Part of illegally hiring them usually involves paying taxes on them and "assuming" they're legal anywayJun 27 19:21
schestowitzThey'll just say the locals are not smart enough :-)Jun 27 19:21
DaemonFCit makes ignorance of their legal status more beliavableJun 27 19:21
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schestowitz"It's not every day that a US politician cites a political philosopher, and since I follow both of these worlds, when it happens, I take notice (with help from Ben Smith)." http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2010/jun/25/mikehuckabee-gay-rights-nussbaumJun 27 19:23
TechrightsTitle:  Michael Tomasky: Philosopher Huckabee | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 199.03 KBJun 27 19:23
DaemonFChttp://topnews.com.sg/content/22512-shares-oil-giant-bp-its-14-year-low-concerns-fundingJun 27 19:23
TechrightsTitle: Shares of the oil giant BP at its 14-year low on concerns of funding | TopNews Singapore .::. Size~: 35.34 KBJun 27 19:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: It's stormingJun 27 19:24
DaemonFCwonder if Duke can keep my power onJun 27 19:24
neighborleeschestowitz: yes , we've known for ages that mr huckabee is a wannabe human,,,he continues to delight in that realm ;)Jun 27 19:25
schestowitzhttp://drasticdata.nl/DDHome.php?m=3Jun 27 19:25
TechrightsTitle: DrasticData - Open Source DrasticTools - DrasticGrid DrasticCloud DrasticMap Download .::. Size~: 12.3 KBJun 27 19:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: what about the hurricane?Jun 27 19:25
schestowitzI forgot its nameJun 27 19:25
schestowitz4 letters...Jun 27 19:25
schestowitzSOmething like "bab"Jun 27 19:26
schestowitzDaemonFC: oil will be brough ashore, or some other chemicals and gasJun 27 19:26
schestowitz*broughtJun 27 19:26
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/06/ff_sergeys_search/Jun 27 19:28
TechrightsTitle: Sergey Brins Search for a Parkinsons Cure | Magazine .::. Size~: 68.52 KBJun 27 19:28
DaemonFChttp://www.jg.net/article/20100627/LOCAL/306279917/1002/LOCALJun 27 19:31
TechrightsTitle: Lawmaker defends roles on call center | The Journal Gazette | Fort Wayne, IN .::. Size~: 21.52 KBJun 27 19:31
DaemonFCschestowitz: Indiana politicians took bribe money from IBMJun 27 19:31
DaemonFCto award them the contract to privatize the state's welfare systemJun 27 19:31
DaemonFCsince IBM took over, the cases of "lost paperwork" have tripledJun 27 19:31
DaemonFCit takes twice as long to process claimsJun 27 19:31
DaemonFCand it costs taxpayers more of courseJun 27 19:32
schestowitzhttp://asay.blogspot.com/2010/06/always-someone-faster.htmJun 27 19:33
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schestowitzMac Asay injuredJun 27 19:33
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schestowitzDaemonFC: "By May 2008, 59 of Indiana’s counties had been brought into IBM’s system. Concerns about clients not being served well by the call center had caused state officials to halt the transition of Indiana’s remaining 33 counties."Jun 27 19:34
schestowitz2008Jun 27 19:34
schestowitzIBM  is corrupt tooJun 27 19:34
schestowitzBribes and embezzlementJun 27 19:34
schestowitzSo Indiana is just normal hereJun 27 19:34
schestowitzTell me when they do something really evil... like making a jabba in a blender....... hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm... delicious!Jun 27 19:35
schestowitzhttp://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000276.jpgJun 27 19:37
TechrightsTitle:     Doomed to Obscurity   .::. Size~: 66.02 KBJun 27 19:37
DaemonFCschestowitz: So now we have the cost of paying a private company to administer the system in 2/3rds of the stateJun 27 19:39
DaemonFCand we also have to run the old program in the other 1/3rdJun 27 19:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: I had to mail in some stuff to them for my aunt and they kept "losing the paperwork"Jun 27 19:40
DaemonFCso finally I sent 10 copies of it by mail all at once and faxed the documents 20 timesJun 27 19:41
DaemonFCheheJun 27 19:41
DaemonFCthey didn't lose them that timeJun 27 19:41
schestowitzI'm finally listed: http://www.wcl.american.edu/pijip/go/acta-communique#endorsementsJun 27 19:41
TechrightsTitle: PIJIP:  - American University Washington College of Law .::. Size~: 70.79 KBJun 27 19:41
DaemonFCschestowitz: I went to the library and faxed like 40 papers, one by one, and repeated it for several hoursJun 27 19:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] In the light of such critics, all humour should be banned, starting with Monty Python's Life of Brian's stoning sketch.Jun 27 19:42
DaemonFCI put my contact number on the cover letter "in case they had any questions"Jun 27 19:42
DaemonFCeventually they called my cell and asked me to please stop sending them faxesJun 27 19:43
DaemonFCI told them I would if they promised not to lose the paperwork this time cause I could always send more copies if they didJun 27 19:43
DaemonFCI thought about sending a massive black fax, but they're probably charging the state like $1 for each 5 cent piece of paper and 2 cents of inkJun 27 19:44
DaemonFC:PJun 27 19:44
*DaemonFC hates IBMJun 27 19:44
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DaemonFCschestowitz: What's wrong with Linux in regards to the RadeonHD 5670?Jun 27 19:51
DaemonFCI can't get Fedora to boot up eitherJun 27 19:51
DaemonFCit it the card itself or just something about the ASUS model?Jun 27 19:52
DaemonFCsame as Ubuntu, the boot image is garbled then the display just goes blackJun 27 19:53
*DaemonFC gives upJun 27 19:53
DaemonFC"Funny, I've not seen a single case of Tea Party protesters turning violent."Jun 27 20:00
DaemonFCThat's probably because it's too hard to attack them with malicious intent to wound/kill while you're doubling over in laughter at their absurdity.Jun 27 20:00
DaemonFCPosted by: Ryan | June 27, 2010 at 02:43 PMJun 27 20:00
DaemonFCheheJun 27 20:00
DaemonFC Jun 27 20:04
DaemonFCI can see that having a logical discussion with you is not going to happen.Jun 27 20:04
DaemonFCPosted by: AWB | June 27, 2010 at 02:45 PMJun 27 20:04
DaemonFCOh, go protest, throw your teabags at the cops, smash some windows with your canes and walkers, drive 20 miles an hour in a 40 zone.Jun 27 20:04
DaemonFCYou know, cause some hell, shake it up like only the >60 crowd can.Jun 27 20:04
DaemonFCI salute you!Jun 27 20:04
DaemonFCPosted by: Ryan | June 27, 2010 at 02:47 PMJun 27 20:04
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schestowitzhttp://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/gems-from-around-the-web-a-few-little-treasures-discovered-whilst-surfing/#comment-385Jun 27 20:05
TechrightsTitle: Gems from around the web!  A few little treasures discovered whilst surfing. « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 61.12 KBJun 27 20:05
schestowitzSee commentsJun 27 20:05
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/199482/Google_Apps.html?tk=rss_newsJun 27 20:05
TechrightsTitle: Meet the Father of Google Apps (Who Used to Work at Microsoft) - PCWorld .::. Size~: 78.97 KBJun 27 20:05
DaemonFCschestowitz: You ever wonder if you'll be like that when you're old?Jun 27 20:05
DaemonFCdrive too slow, etc?Jun 27 20:05
schestowitzDaemonFC: you're a tea bagger in the closetJun 27 20:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: be like what?Jun 27 20:06
schestowitzTea Parteeey?Jun 27 20:06
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schestowitzhttp://www.reghardware.com/2010/06/23/brand_taliban_brand_evangelist/Jun 27 20:07
TechrightsTitle: Apple, Google, Microsoft – are you a Brand Taliban or Brand Evangelist? • reghardware .::. Size~: 18.61 KBJun 27 20:07
MurlocHello people!Jun 27 20:07
schestowitzheyJun 27 20:07
schestowitzMurloc: have you voted on the poll yet?Jun 27 20:07
MurlocWriting the post: Linux-The battle for open source :pJun 27 20:07
schestowitzFree softare?Jun 27 20:07
schestowitz*WareJun 27 20:07
MurlocYep.Jun 27 20:08
MurlocVoted.Jun 27 20:09
Murloc*going to register and actually choose the preffered option :)Jun 27 20:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: No, just annoying in general.Jun 27 20:10
DaemonFCDo you think they drive bad just to fuck with people?Jun 27 20:10
schestowitzMurloc: I was discouraged by the results in a way :-)Jun 27 20:10
DaemonFCI just don't get this graphics cardJun 27 20:10
schestowitzI was hoping to let Microsoft rot without too much research on it :-)Jun 27 20:10
DaemonFCWorks fine with WindowsJun 27 20:10
DaemonFCthere's no reason Linux shouldn't see itJun 27 20:11
DaemonFCLinux supposedly recognizes other 5670sJun 27 20:11
schestowitznvidia binary works OKJun 27 20:11
schestowitzbut ATI is better to supportJun 27 20:11
schestowitzAnd I don't do much 3dJun 27 20:11
DaemonFCschestowitz: It should give me somethingJun 27 20:11
schestowitzYou use WIne with DXJun 27 20:11
DaemonFCeven if it does fallback to vesaJun 27 20:11
schestowitzOr use the 'other' OSJun 27 20:11
DaemonFCLinux won't even boot to a terminalJun 27 20:11
DaemonFCmuch less start XJun 27 20:12
schestowitzYou do it wrongJun 27 20:12
schestowitzYou buy junk hardwareJun 27 20:12
MurlocThe funny thing is that Microsoft could actually dJun 27 20:12
DaemonFCit's not junkJun 27 20:12
DaemonFCLinux has bugsJun 27 20:12
Murlocbe better if it opened it source code.Jun 27 20:12
DaemonFCthere's no reason why it should see this GPUJun 27 20:12
schestowitzDaemonFC: all sofwtare had bugsJun 27 20:12
Murlocit's*Jun 27 20:12
schestowitzLinux has fewerJun 27 20:12
schestowitzwon't help itJun 27 20:13
schestowitzWould not matterJun 27 20:13
schestowitzSymbian did itJun 27 20:13
DaemonFCLinux is the only OS that actually works worse with new hardwareJun 27 20:13
schestowitzSo did UNIX/SolarisJun 27 20:13
DaemonFCI swaer it isJun 27 20:13
schestowitzToo little, too lateJun 27 20:13
DaemonFCit's the only OS that fails to boot on new GPUsJun 27 20:13
DaemonFCor anything new-ish for that matterJun 27 20:13
schestowitzWrongJun 27 20:13
MurlocAs a Bizspark member the only non flawed Windows is Win 3.1 :)Jun 27 20:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: check hardware before yu buyJun 27 20:14
schestowitzJust search the web for "<hardware name> linux"Jun 27 20:14
DaemonFCno hardware specifies that it works with LinuxJun 27 20:14
schestowitzIt's not hardJun 27 20:14
DaemonFCthe stuff that does, doesn'tJun 27 20:14
DaemonFCyou tear open the box and find out that it has a binary blob that worked with Ubuntu, three versions ago or somethingJun 27 20:14
schestowitzMurloc: small codebaseJun 27 20:14
schestowitzbrbJun 27 20:14
DaemonFCand that it's a brick nowJun 27 20:14
MurlocThe only thing i hate about Linux is that it's becoming bloated.Jun 27 20:15
DaemonFCwhat I don't get is how the RadeonHD 5000 series is ~1 year old and Linux still has trouble booting with some modelsJun 27 20:16
DaemonFCWindows 7 goes so far as 3d support even with the basic driver that's there before you update anythingJun 27 20:16
DaemonFCand the 5600 series didn't even exist when ATI gave them that driverJun 27 20:17
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neighborleeDaemonFC: I think you just answered your own question ;)Jun 27 20:18
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1719296/a-security-hole-leaves-ipads-vulnerableJun 27 20:19
TechrightsTitle:                     A year old security hole leaves ipads vulnerable - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 61.37 KBJun 27 20:19
schestowitzI spent about 6 hour today researching MicrosofJun 27 20:19
schestowitzThat's a lot more than usual....Jun 27 20:19
DaemonFCfor the last time, schestowitz.....Jun 27 20:19
DaemonFCIt's not a security hole when that's how the device is intended to workJun 27 20:19
schestowitz"do you smell methane?"Jun 27 20:19
neighborleeschestowitz: Maybe you're silently convertingJun 27 20:19
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schestowitzNoJun 27 20:20
schestowitzJust reading news about it for post ideasJun 27 20:20
DaemonFCthe term security hole implies that a patch is comingJun 27 20:20
schestowitzTomorrow I'll resume and start wriringJun 27 20:20
MurlocStill....Jun 27 20:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: noJun 27 20:20
MurlocLinux should become less bloated.Jun 27 20:20
DaemonFCthat should read "The ipad is insecure by design, won't be fixed, and oh look there's another worm"Jun 27 20:20
schestowitzIt implies there's point of penetrationJun 27 20:20
DaemonFCschestowitz: People who buy ipads are like people that move to FloridaJun 27 20:21
schestowitzMurloc: Linux or DEs?Jun 27 20:21
DaemonFC"Oh look honey, there's an alligator on the car and here comes another hurricane, let's stay!"Jun 27 20:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: to die :-|Jun 27 20:21
schestowitzFlorida is where rich people from Manhattan come to spend their last daysJun 27 20:21
schestowitzEsp. Miami BeachJun 27 20:22
MurlocLinux.Jun 27 20:22
schestowitzThe housing market in Miami collapsedJun 27 20:22
schestowitzMy uncle depends on it thereJun 27 20:22
DaemonFCAlso, in Florida, the mosquitos are terrible, and if you leave your car windows rolled down even a little bit, you wake up the next morning and find.....Jun 27 20:22
DaemonFCCubans living in it!!!Jun 27 20:22
DaemonFCit's terrible, they've reset all the controls and everything :DJun 27 20:22
MurlocI mean Linux has everything to become hit. However the unneeded things are just making it worse.Jun 27 20:22
MurlocBrb, need to restar browser.Jun 27 20:23
schestowitzFor me it got fasterJun 27 20:23
schestowitzBetter memory managementJun 27 20:23
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schestowitzE?Jun 27 20:23
schestowitzIE?Jun 27 20:23
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schestowitzWelcome to Internet ExplorerJun 27 20:23
DaemonFCIE 9 is not looking too awful bad reallyJun 27 20:23
schestowitzThank you for restaringJun 27 20:23
schestowitzWindows is like underwearJun 27 20:24
schestowitzYou need to replace it every dayJun 27 20:24
DaemonFCit's like someone suddenly realized that they're not going to grab the web by the balls forever just by refusing to support finalized standardsJun 27 20:24
schestowitzWindows is like underwearJun 27 20:24
schestowitzIt has holes in itJun 27 20:24
MurlocTrue.Jun 27 20:24
schestowitzWindows is like underwearJun 27 20:25
schestowitzWhen someone else uses it, you take it offJun 27 20:25
MurlocMac however is basically BSD.Jun 27 20:25
schestowitz...ANd install LinuxJun 27 20:25
DaemonFCI've tried out the 3rd preview, and it's getting really really close to the speed of Opera/ChromeJun 27 20:25
DaemonFCthe standards support isn't too bad eitherJun 27 20:25
DaemonFCit's around Firefox 3.5-ish if you want to compare that to somethingJun 27 20:25
schestowitzYou needn't advertise it hereJun 27 20:26
schestowitzGo to MSDNJun 27 20:26
schestowitzTake yuhoung with you :-)Jun 27 20:26
MurlocMeh MSDN is a place that's full of noobs.Jun 27 20:26
DaemonFCWhat's going to be interesting is if they get rid of the current add-on architectureJun 27 20:26
MurlocTechnet is even worse.Jun 27 20:26
DaemonFCI'd like to see that die more than anythingJun 27 20:26
MurlocChannel9 do I need to comment?Jun 27 20:26
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/199546/more_than_25_percent_of_iphones_break_in_just_two_years.html?tk=rss_newsJun 27 20:27
TechrightsTitle: More Than 25 Percent of iPhones Break in Just Two Years - PCWorld .::. Size~: 71.37 KBJun 27 20:27
MurlocEven though im Bizspark and MSDN member thanks to ZeuAPP, I don't think that MS is doing right at all.Jun 27 20:27
DaemonFCThat Adblock Plus guy cracked me up in summarizing IE add-ons. "New toolbar? OK, new context menu, doable. Filter everything the browser tries to grab before it attempts to load it.... Why would you want to do that, go build a local proxy server!"Jun 27 20:28
DaemonFCor something like thatJun 27 20:28
DaemonFCit's the same problem Chrome hasJun 27 20:28
DaemonFCGoogle isn't building in true support for that because people would immediately block their ads and tracking cookies and other assorted crap with itJun 27 20:28
schestowitzReg takes on fankids: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/22/iphone_4_early/Jun 27 20:29
TechrightsTitle: Premature ejaculation means fanbois get iPhones early • The Register .::. Size~: 31.93 KBJun 27 20:29
DaemonFCIt's why I don't use Chrome day to day, you have to run it through Privoxy to sanitize the pagesJun 27 20:29
DaemonFCand Opera already has built in content blocking Jun 27 20:29
schestowitzit used to scramble msnJun 27 20:29
schestowitzsveeedish chevJun 27 20:29
DaemonFCschestowitz: MSN fed tehm a defective style sheetJun 27 20:29
schestowitzI knowJun 27 20:29
DaemonFC*feed themJun 27 20:30
DaemonFCit sniffed out Opera and fed it a corrupt CSS sheet meant for IE 4/5Jun 27 20:30
DaemonFCand then Opera rendered the page wrong because that's what it was told to doJun 27 20:30
schestowitzWhaoJun 27 20:30
DaemonFCyes, big scandal, they even demonstrated that if you changed the user agent to not say Opera, it got the correct style sheetJun 27 20:31
schestowitzThe Reg is now showing b00bs. How desperate for what used to be a respected publication: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/25/iphone_girls/Jun 27 20:31
TechrightsTitle: Suicide Girls whip out iPhone 4 • The Register .::. Size~: 31.68 KBJun 27 20:31
DaemonFCso it was MSN fishing for Opera by nameJun 27 20:31
schestowitzDaemonFC won't careJun 27 20:31
schestowitzHe cares not about nipples and stuff :-(Jun 27 20:31
DaemonFCThe Nipples of the Future maybeJun 27 20:31
DaemonFC:PJun 27 20:31
schestowitzPointy shirtsJun 27 20:32
schestowitzLike those wannabe mode/designer typesJun 27 20:32
schestowitzHow does Google Images detect NSFW images?Jun 27 20:33
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm still laughing about scamming that Gevalia outfitJun 27 20:34
schestowitzAnyway...Jun 27 20:34
schestowitzThere's all those weird 'futuristic' stuffJun 27 20:34
schestowitzHeh.Jun 27 20:34
schestowitzNo wonder Murdoch wants Wikipedia off people's ref listJun 27 20:34
schestowitzhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Female_nipple_profile.jpgJun 27 20:34
TechrightsTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBJun 27 20:34
DaemonFCput that expensive coffee pot + lots of gourmet coffee intro thing on the debit card I was canceling anywayJun 27 20:35
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Female_nipple_profile.jpgJun 27 20:35
schestowitzGNUJun 27 20:35
TechrightsTitle: File:Female nipple profile.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 45.25 KBJun 27 20:35
schestowitz:-)Jun 27 20:35
DaemonFCprobably pays them back for some other people they rip offJun 27 20:35
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1687842/the-iphone-shoddy-antennaeJun 27 20:35
TechrightsTitle:                     The iphone 4 has a shoddy antenna - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 81.54 KBJun 27 20:35
DaemonFChttp://www.dealcatcher.com/forums/m_184914/tm.htmJun 27 20:36
TechrightsTitle:  Free Programmable Coffee Maker w/Purchase at Gevalia.com  .::. Size~: 93.74 KBJun 27 20:36
DaemonFCschestowitz: comments are funnyJun 27 20:36
DaemonFCpeople posting their names and addresses in the replies trying to get a coffee makerJun 27 20:36
DaemonFC:DJun 27 20:36
schestowitzhttp://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/social.media/06/25/facebook.10.million.fans/index.html?eref=rss_tech&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_tech+%28RSS%3A+Technology%29Jun 27 20:37
TechrightsTitle: Obama, Lady Gaga compete for Facebook fan record - CNN.com .::. Size~: 36.85 KBJun 27 20:37
schestowitz"Both of them were more than 4 million fans behind the No. 1 individual, Michael Jackson, who had 13,285,811. The singer died a year ago."Jun 27 20:37
schestowitzWowJun 27 20:37
schestowitzSo many 'friends'Jun 27 20:37
schestowitzI bet he know them allJun 27 20:37
DaemonFCFriends of the estate of Michael JacksonJun 27 20:37
schestowitzNot just people clicking and stuff to add a binary connection in a databade of some US company called Facek00kJun 27 20:37
schestowitzThis whole 'friends' frenzy is sillyJun 27 20:38
schestowitzPopularity contents with binary db relationsJun 27 20:38
schestowitzMy cousins in Miami are obssessed with itJun 27 20:38
schestowitzTrying to 'collect' FB 'friends'Jun 27 20:38
schestowitzStrangersJun 27 20:38
schestowitz[20:37] <DaemonFC> Friends of the estate of Michael JacksonJun 27 20:38
schestowitzMaybe he's like Wilt ChamberlainJun 27 20:39
schestowitzBut instead of sleeping with women he molests 13 million kids :-/Jun 27 20:39
DaemonFCdon't forget the Jesus JuiceJun 27 20:39
DaemonFCno, not Jesus JewsJun 27 20:39
DaemonFCor Jews for JesusJun 27 20:40
schestowitzIt must be about the anniversary of his deathJun 27 20:40
schestowitzDrug ovrdoseJun 27 20:40
DaemonFCor SWEET JEWS FOR JESUS!!!!!Jun 27 20:40
schestowitzoverdoseJun 27 20:40
DaemonFCwhich is fun to shoutJun 27 20:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: heheJun 27 20:40
schestowitzIs that the wine that becomes his blood?Jun 27 20:41
schestowitzImposters...?Jun 27 20:41
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVRmXc8PPqkJun 27 20:42
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Bad Santa - Drunk at work .::. Size~: 88.44 KBJun 27 20:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-1epQms9YJun 27 20:42
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- E.Tarte--ex-priest--atheist--Catholic Sacraments .::. Size~: 97.24 KBJun 27 20:42
schestowitzWatch itJun 27 20:42
schestowitzhttp://edwardtarte.blogspot.com/Jun 27 20:42
TechrightsTitle: Edward Tarte .::. Size~: 160.84 KBJun 27 20:42
schestowitzNice guyJun 27 20:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: "This video contains content from Channel 5, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds. "Jun 27 20:43
schestowitzUK TV you gave meJun 27 20:43
DaemonFCugghJun 27 20:43
schestowitzIt's bizarre when US content is accessible here but not in the UK and vice versaJun 27 20:43
schestowitz /UK/US/Jun 27 20:43
schestowitzToday I debated someone about evolutionJun 27 20:44
schestowitzIt's funny that...Jun 27 20:44
schestowitzHe thought Darwin was FreudJun 27 20:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: Good movieJun 27 20:44
DaemonFCBad Santa that isJun 27 20:44
schestowitzAnd he found it so demeaning that we are like animalsJun 27 20:44
schestowitzHe can't refuteJun 27 20:44
schestowitzHe just says "no"Jun 27 20:44
schestowitzDaemonFC: "bed santa"Jun 27 20:45
schestowitzBlue versionJun 27 20:45
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlkzrmQdUkI&feature=relatedJun 27 20:45
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Bad Santa- Best Scene .::. Size~: 89.01 KBJun 27 20:45
schestowitz"Boy detained for Facebook insult murder in London" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10372678.stmJun 27 20:45
schestowitzIdiotsJun 27 20:45
TechrightsTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 90.07 KBJun 27 20:45
schestowitzMSBBCJun 27 20:45
schestowitzRead the articleJun 27 20:45
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17VrLTWxw2A&feature=relatedJun 27 20:45
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Bad Santa - Santa having lunch .::. Size~: 88.93 KBJun 27 20:45
schestowitzThey blame FB for a feudJun 27 20:45
schestowitzBecause it was a medium usedJun 27 20:46
schestowitzBBC=trash journalismJun 27 20:46
DaemonFCschestowitz: I tell you to go fuck yourself, tomorrow you're found hanging in the closet from one of your beltsJun 27 20:46
DaemonFCsuddenly I get sued for hurting your feelingsJun 27 20:47
DaemonFCit makes sense to them, why not you?Jun 27 20:47
DaemonFC:DJun 27 20:47
Murlochttp://blog.zeusoft.net/2010/06/linux-the-father-of-open-source/Jun 27 20:47
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schestowitzDaemonFC: many slursJun 27 20:47
schestowitzBut not funnyJun 27 20:47
schestowitzMurloc: the father of Free software is probably RMSJun 27 20:47
schestowitzLinux came much laterJun 27 20:48
schestowitzand open source is renamed RMS campaignJun 27 20:48
MurlocYeah I know but it's the Linux that helped it's promotion :PJun 27 20:48
schestowitzNice site designJun 27 20:48
schestowitzMurloc: trueJun 27 20:48
schestowitzI'll link to it tonight (your post)Jun 27 20:49
schestowitzhttp://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/06/24/apple.forgotten.founder/index.htmlJun 27 20:49
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schestowitzhttp://www.techworld.com.au/article/350853/multitasking_ios_4_horrible_apple_blew_it?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1Jun 27 20:50
MurlocToo bad.Jun 27 20:50
TechrightsTitle: Multitasking With iOS 4 is Horrible: Apple Blew It - Apple, apple iphone, applications, consumer electronics - Techworld .::. Size~: 52.26 KBJun 27 20:50
MurlocI read about him.Jun 27 20:50
DaemonFCbut if he saved that $800 he could afford their cheapest Mac Mini, a tiny monitor, a keyboard, and a mouseJun 27 20:50
DaemonFC:DJun 27 20:50
schestowitz"iOS4's multitasking is a mess of a feature. Yes, it lets you listen to Pandora while using other apps. Yes, it lets you freeze games that support multitasking, such as Plants vs. Zombies, while you take care of more important tasks. But in exchange for those perks, some of the iPhone's elegance is lost, and the advantages you'd gain from true multitasking aren't there either."Jun 27 20:50
DaemonFCand if he invested it in Microsoft, he could afford a copy of Windows 7Jun 27 20:50
schestowitzYuckJun 27 20:51
DaemonFCor a Zune perhaps?Jun 27 20:51
schestowitzHe might as well just jump down a awellJun 27 20:51
DaemonFCThey should give Ballmer a Zune as one of his Thanks For Playing giftsJun 27 20:51
DaemonFCon the way outJun 27 20:51
schestowitzThey still sell em?Jun 27 20:52
schestowitzWhere?Jun 27 20:52
DaemonFCyepJun 27 20:52
schestowitzWal-mart's dust binJun 27 20:52
schestowitzAmnesty BinJun 27 20:52
DaemonFCWalmart has a 16 GB Zune HDJun 27 20:52
schestowitz*LOL*Jun 27 20:52
schestowitzWal-mart... patheticJun 27 20:52
DaemonFCyeah, I look at them every time I go thereJun 27 20:52
DaemonFCthey haven't sold any in the last 4 months at leastJun 27 20:52
schestowitzYou feed the beastJun 27 20:52
DaemonFCI can tell because they haven't movedJun 27 20:52
schestowitzWait...Jun 27 20:53
DaemonFCand the dust kind of gives them awayJun 27 20:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Walmart has a 16 GB Zune HD. They haven't sold any in the last 4 months at least. I can tell because they haven't moved" -- @daemonfcJun 27 20:54
DaemonFCIt's off in the corner like the little Christmas tree that nobody loves.Jun 27 20:55
DaemonFCthey tore down the extravagant display case quite a while ago and filled it with other playersJun 27 20:56
DaemonFClike Sony, RCA, Sandisk, Samsung, Philips, etc.Jun 27 20:56
DaemonFCyeah, RCA still makes Lyras apparentlyJun 27 20:56
DaemonFCand they have the same amount of display space as the ZuneJun 27 20:57
DaemonFCschestowitz: I had a couple Lyras back in the late 90sJun 27 20:57
DaemonFCcause my dad got free prototypes at work and gave them to meJun 27 20:57
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/06/25/google-books-releases-scans-of-ancient-textsJun 27 20:58
TechrightsTitle: Google Books Releases Scans of Ancient Texts | WebProNews .::. Size~: 46.66 KBJun 27 20:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Still finding an online presence very easy on am HTC Desire. I will be publishing an article shortly.Jun 27 20:58
DaemonFCI put on the survey that I felt they needed a hard disk if they were going to become anything more than an expensive novelty that only held a dozen or so songsJun 27 20:59
DaemonFC:PJun 27 20:59
DaemonFCflash memory was real expensive and the things only had like 64-128 MBJun 27 20:59
DaemonFCbut the first micro hard drives were coming out around that point and had 1-2 GBJun 27 20:59
schestowitzDaemonFC: did you watch the -football- socceR?Jun 27 21:00
DaemonFCnopeJun 27 21:00
DaemonFCschestowitz: My favorite part of the software bundle with the first models of Lyra was the CD ripperJun 27 21:01
DaemonFCit was crippledJun 27 21:01
schestowitzGoogle's YouTube wins Viacom copyright case http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10399610.stmJun 27 21:01
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DaemonFCit was literally just push a button and it rips the CDJun 27 21:01
DaemonFC64k CBR MP3Jun 27 21:01
DaemonFCand then you had to tag them all yourselfJun 27 21:01
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/199603/Google.html?tk=rss_newsJun 27 21:02
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schestowitzDaemonFC: with music and youtube google can crush manyJun 27 21:02
schestowitzAlso ubuntu1Jun 27 21:02
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/25/mozilla_on_npapi_pepper/Jun 27 21:02
TechrightsTitle: Mozilla: We're not 'on board' with Google's plugin spice • The Register .::. Size~: 32.14 KBJun 27 21:02
schestowitzGoogle is scaryJun 27 21:03
schestowitzIt helps Linux but Freedom...... not so muchJun 27 21:03
DaemonFCschestowitz: I got reamed for telling someone on a newsgroup to use Winamp to rip CDs with because Windows Media Player suckedJun 27 21:03
DaemonFC:PJun 27 21:03
schestowitz"Linux tyranny"Jun 27 21:03
schestowitzProprietary servers with your personal dataJun 27 21:03
schestowitzNothing liberal about itJun 27 21:03
DaemonFCI didn't say that actually, I said Winamp was more capableJun 27 21:03
DaemonFC(it was)Jun 27 21:03
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Murlochttp://blog.zeusoft.net/2010/06/linux-the-father-of-open-source/ Added the image that is worth more than thousand words :DJun 27 21:04
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schestowitzNiceJun 27 21:05
MurlocAnyway we're saving money so we can start the development of the portable Linux distro.Jun 27 21:05
MurlocSomething like Jolicloud in the pocket.Jun 27 21:06
schestowitzIt can actually be done tooJun 27 21:06
schestowitzNeed a good GPUJun 27 21:06
schestowitzSompizJun 27 21:06
schestowitzCompizJun 27 21:06
schestowitzWall PluginJun 27 21:06
schestowitzThen many VMsJun 27 21:06
schestowitzVirtualBoxJun 27 21:06
schestowitzNeeds lots of RAMJun 27 21:06
schestowitzAt least 5 GPUsJun 27 21:06
schestowitzBIllG uses triple-headJun 27 21:07
schestowitzThere's this article in Murdoch's press or CNN with a photoJun 27 21:07
schestowitzGoogle under investigation by Met police  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10391096.stmJun 27 21:08
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schestowitzManchester is scanned into Google StreetView nowJun 27 21:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: I've tweaked the hell out of WMP just for the hell of itJun 27 21:10
MurlocLolJun 27 21:10
DaemonFChttp://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8425/31752019.pngJun 27 21:10
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schestowitzhttp://www.reghardware.com/2010/06/24/android_activations_accelerate/Jun 27 21:10
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schestowitzDaemonFC: it's an ugly playerJun 27 21:11
schestowitzMaybe a resource pig tooJun 27 21:11
schestowitzTry minirokJun 27 21:11
schestowitzhttp://chistera.yi.org/~dato/code/minirok/Jun 27 21:11
schestowitzBest. Ever,Jun 27 21:11
schestowitz"Minirok is written by Adeodato Simó (dato@net.com.org.es), and licensed under the terms of the MIT license."Jun 27 21:11
schestowitzMIT?Jun 27 21:11
schestowitzIsn't amarok lgpl?Jun 27 21:11
DaemonFCI've tweaked the tag editor tooJun 27 21:12
DaemonFCyou can tag Ogg Vorbis files with MSN Music tag infoJun 27 21:12
DaemonFChttp://img571.imageshack.us/img571/425/86090364.pngJun 27 21:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Meant to say Doctor Who was fantastic. Great end to the series.Jun 27 21:12
TechrightsTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KBJun 27 21:12
schestowitzAndroid FUD has begun: http://www.techworld.com.au/article/350966/20_percent_android_apps_can_threaten_privacy_says_vendor?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1Jun 27 21:12
TechrightsTitle: 20 percent of Android apps can threaten privacy, says vendor - applications, consumer electronics, Google, Google Android - Techworld .::. Size~: 52.29 KBJun 27 21:12
schestowitzOr resumed ratgerJun 27 21:12
schestowitz*therJun 27 21:12
DaemonFCand I had to take ownership of a lot of the registry to make 64-bit Windows Media Player the defaultJun 27 21:13
schestowitzJun 27 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <DaemonFC> I've tweaked the tag editor tooJun 27 21:13
schestowitzWaste of timeJun 27 21:13
schestowitzUnless you searchJun 27 21:13
MurlocMaking Windows to look like Linux is actually fun :DJun 27 21:13
schestowitzUse the real thingJun 27 21:13
schestowitzIt's expensive, I know :-)Jun 27 21:13
DaemonFCripping to Vorbis with Windows Media Player and tagging them with MSN Music metadata is funnyJun 27 21:14
schestowitzBeranger wrote some manuals for skinning XP to look like KDEJun 27 21:14
schestowitzNow he's silentJun 27 21:14
schestowitzDaemonFC: WMP is the pastJun 27 21:16
schestowitzMany people use hypeToons even on WindowsJun 27 21:16
schestowitzToday I decided to go through some mail from 2003. It was fun. It's rather amusing looking back at one's language and topic of discussions a long time later.Jun 27 21:16
schestowitzI used some winamp at the timeJun 27 21:16
schestowitzOn win98Jun 27 21:16
schestowitzwinamp ~v1.6Jun 27 21:16
schestowitzIt was good on a 32MB of RAM laptop!Jun 27 21:16
schestowitzoldversion.comJun 27 21:16
DaemonFCWinamp 2.95Jun 27 21:17
DaemonFCthe unreleased version before it got bloatedJun 27 21:17
*schestowitz listens to Paul AnkaJun 27 21:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: I remember trying a new versionJun 27 21:18
schestowitzIt took up all my RAM+SwapJun 27 21:18
schestowitzJust for a music playerJun 27 21:18
schestowitzI did a lot of my development on that laptop, with 32 MB of RAM!Jun 27 21:18
schestowitzAlso where I read scientific papers without issuesJun 27 21:18
schestowitzAdobe Reader must be a resource pig nowJun 27 21:19
schestowitzBBC Trust approves Project CanvasJun 27 21:19
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10414215.stmJun 27 21:19
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schestowitzBlack Eyed Peas set downloads record http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10340000/newsid_10340800/10340829.stmJun 27 21:20
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schestowitzNo, Firefox hold a recordJun 27 21:20
schestowitzAnd Windows Update :-0)Jun 27 21:21
schestowitzEvery month..Jun 27 21:21
schestowitzhttp://www.techworld.com.au/article/350635/bp_fails_exploit_web_2_0_potential?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1Jun 27 21:21
TechrightsTitle: BP Fails to Exploit Web 2.0's Potential - BP oil spill, social networking, web 2.0 - Techworld .::. Size~: 50.72 KBJun 27 21:21
schestowitzWhy offer them advice?Jun 27 21:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: the "yellow man" is coming /sarcasmJun 27 21:22
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/25/alibab_ecommerce/Jun 27 21:22
TechrightsTitle: Chinese ecommerce comes to US • The Register .::. Size~: 30.29 KBJun 27 21:22
schestowitzBe nice to them, they are your next overloadsJun 27 21:23
schestowitz*lordsJun 27 21:23
schestowitzYou'll b queuing for a job in KYW IndianaJun 27 21:23
*DaemonFC remembers to piss in their coffeeJun 27 21:23
schestowitzBig banner on door, "now offering great jobs with under 100 hours/week"Jun 27 21:24
DaemonFChttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10429296.stmJun 27 21:24
DaemonFClolJun 27 21:24
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schestowitzBenefits: lunch, BunkJun 27 21:24
DaemonFC"Vatican taken by surprise over Belgium police raids"Jun 27 21:24
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schestowitzDaemonFC: not above the law after allJun 27 21:24
schestowitz"The police raid in Belgium last week which broke up a meeting of the country's Catholic Bishops - who were discussing how to deal with the paedophile priest crisis - took the Vatican by complete surprise. "Jun 27 21:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: now they need to rebrandJun 27 21:25
schestowitzCathotology?Jun 27 21:25
DaemonFCEpiscopalsJun 27 21:25
DaemonFC"Relax kids, we're not the Catholics"Jun 27 21:26
schestowitzScientosropyJun 27 21:26
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1686828/coppers-admit-cockJun 27 21:26
TechrightsTitle:                     Coppers admit data cock-up  - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 59.09 KBJun 27 21:26
DaemonFCschestowitz: I was ordained by a churchJun 27 21:27
DaemonFCtrue storyJun 27 21:27
DaemonFCone of those church by mail outfits, but the Supreme Court ruled that I have just as much authoritah as any other clergyJun 27 21:27
DaemonFCwoohooJun 27 21:27
schestowitzYesJun 27 21:27
schestowitzYou can make up your ownJun 27 21:28
*DaemonFC issues schestowitz a full and complete pardon for all his sinsJun 27 21:28
DaemonFCGod told me toJun 27 21:28
schestowitzIf you're tiny, they won't careJun 27 21:28
DaemonFChe said you'd understandJun 27 21:28
schestowitzIf you're mid-sized, they'll call you sect/cult and haunt youJun 27 21:28
schestowitzIf you get bigger you can make a money machine from itJun 27 21:28
schestowitzThen they call you a fraudJun 27 21:28
schestowitzWhen you have a billion members then it's politically-incorrect to call you a fraud for doing the same thing (and more)Jun 27 21:29
DaemonFCschestowitz: I was passing out flyers about the Universal Life Church and how they'll ordain anyoneJun 27 21:29
DaemonFCout in front of the sheriff's officeJun 27 21:29
schestowitzThe lines is crossed when you put things in kids' rectumsJun 27 21:29
schestowitzThen even a billion-people establishment gets some scrutiny... someJun 27 21:29
DaemonFCcause the policy at that time was that clergy had special visitation privileges Jun 27 21:29
DaemonFCso after they were flooded with all the new clergy, they had to change their policyJun 27 21:30
DaemonFCnow visitation hours are the same for everyone :DJun 27 21:30
DaemonFCthe sheriff got sick of all the people showing up as "clergy" that he had to let in during non-visiting hoursJun 27 21:30
DaemonFCI thought it was funny as hellJun 27 21:30
DaemonFCnow anyone that shows up to visit has to come at the defined visitation period Jun 27 21:31
DaemonFChis former policy was probably unconstitutional, but I figured it would be quicker to annoy him to where he voluntarily changed itJun 27 21:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Anarchist hand washing sign #baltimore #redemmas http://twitpic.com/20j6l9Jun 27 21:34
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schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10419271.stmJun 27 21:35
schestowitz"If you happened to visit my Wikipedia entry last weekend then you might be somewhat surprised to see this article, because you probably think I'm dead."Jun 27 21:35
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schestowitzWikipedia smeared again?Jun 27 21:35
schestowitzerrors happenJun 27 21:35
schestowitzVandalism in this caseJun 27 21:36
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schestowitzhttp://twitpic.com/20gs89Jun 27 21:37
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DaemonFCViacom uploading it's own videos to YoutubeJun 27 21:37
DaemonFCFox News smearing WikipediaJun 27 21:37
schestowitz"IBM's Systems and Technology Group finds itself at the center of controversy again, this time as it is being sued by one of its Big Blue's partners, Devon IT, for allegedly running what the thin client maker calls "a wide-spread Ponzi scheme" over a period of five years."Jun 27 21:38
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/23/devon_it_sues_ibm/Jun 27 21:39
TechrightsTitle: IBM sued over failed virtual PC server projects • The Register .::. Size~: 40.55 KBJun 27 21:39
schestowitzDaemonFC: even ad hominemJun 27 21:39
schestowitzAccusing people of child molestation-flavoured thingsJun 27 21:39
schestowitzFox 'news'Jun 27 21:39
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/25/real_ale/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10393668.stmJun 27 21:41
TechrightsTitle: England versus Germany: Quaff real ale • The Register .::. Size~: 29.96 KBJun 27 21:41
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/27/england_germany_odds/Jun 27 21:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] +1! RT @jimmy_wales: my phone has a bash promptJun 27 21:51
schestowitzhttp://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/40000-mandriva-saved-by-investors-againJun 27 21:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Where is @adoxtater? Anyone heard from him lately?Jun 27 21:56
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DaemonFCschestowitz: People trying to make closed source software in .Net amuse meJun 27 22:19
DaemonFCit's very easy to view the actual source code (without comments though)Jun 27 22:19
schestowitzhttp://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/06/18/mexico.drug.war/index.html?hpt=P1&iref=NS1&eref=rss_tech&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_tech+%28RSS%3A+Technology%29 "Brave few break Mexico drug war's code of silence"Jun 27 22:24
TechrightsTitle: Brave few break Mexico drug war's code of silence - CNN.com .::. Size~: 44.58 KBJun 27 22:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: someone responds to you.Jun 27 22:27
schestowitz"That, sir, is what I call comedy!" http://identi.ca/conversation/38176500#notice-38411773Jun 27 22:27
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E73RM9gS7bUJun 27 22:50
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Falling Down (passing through golf course) .::. Size~: 97.36 KBJun 27 22:50
schestowitz*LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odsuv8x67dkJun 27 23:00
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Dana Carvey is "DARWIN" .::. Size~: 89.88 KBJun 27 23:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: I watched this film ages agoJun 27 23:02
schestowitzHe gets a heart attack, right?Jun 27 23:02
DaemonFCyeahJun 27 23:05
DaemonFC"Now you're going to die wearing that stupid little hat!!!"Jun 27 23:05
DaemonFC:DJun 27 23:05
DaemonFCI sealed that window unit in with some caulkJun 27 23:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhE1rDuOQwE&NR=1Jun 27 23:06
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Falling Down: "Drive-By" .::. Size~: 90.21 KBJun 27 23:06
DaemonFCheheJun 27 23:06
schestowitziirc, i watched it at the theatreJun 27 23:06
schestowitzWhy did you bring it up?Jun 27 23:07
schestowitzAre you having some shooting fantasy?Jun 27 23:07
DaemonFCjust amuses meJun 27 23:07
DaemonFCmy gums are swollen, ugghJun 27 23:07
DaemonFCI hate it when this happensJun 27 23:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKHlzp-bf3U&NR=1&feature=fvwpJun 27 23:09
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- L.A. Gang Wars .::. Size~: 101.33 KBJun 27 23:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: I can't recall the plot of the filmJun 27 23:09
schestowitzBut.........Jun 27 23:09
schestowitzIf there was one scene that stayed with me all these years it's the gold sceneJun 27 23:10
schestowitzThe old arrogant manJun 27 23:10
schestowitzI sometimes think of it when I see people golfinghJun 27 23:10
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eREiQhBDIk&feature=relatedJun 27 23:11
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Falling Down - I want breakfast .::. Size~: 89.97 KBJun 27 23:11
DaemonFCbest scene in the movieJun 27 23:11
schestowitzDaemonFC: did you see Darwin?Jun 27 23:11
schestowitzDaemonFC: oh, I remember@!Jun 27 23:12
schestowitzNo police in yet...Jun 27 23:15
DaemonFCschestowitz: You steal a 25 cent pack of gum, they can put you in jail for a yearJun 27 23:16
DaemonFCyou steal millions of dollars with a computer, and you go to Club Fed for a few monthsJun 27 23:17
DaemonFCmaybeJun 27 23:17
DaemonFChttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/02/25/national/main330499.shtmlJun 27 23:18
TechrightsTitle: Drug-Diluting Pharmacist Gets 30 Years - CBS News .::. Size~: 70.85 KBJun 27 23:18
DaemonFCremember that guy?Jun 27 23:18
DaemonFCkilled hundreds of people by diluting their cancer medication so he could make more money off itJun 27 23:18
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DaemonFChe'll be out of prison in 17 yearsJun 27 23:19
DaemonFCwell, 9 years nowJun 27 23:19
DaemonFC:)Jun 27 23:19
DaemonFCwould be nice if they could have given him the death penaltyJun 27 23:19
DaemonFCbut since he didn't kill one person with a knife, and instead condemned hundreds to die of cancer that was uncontrolled due to fake meds, he get s 17 yearsJun 27 23:20
tessierWow. That is cold. Never heard about that guy.Jun 27 23:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TKrMbM0K6E&feature=relatedJun 27 23:23
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Nazi surplus store scene from Falling Down! .::. Size~: 87.76 KBJun 27 23:23
tessierThat was an awesome movieJun 27 23:24
schestowitzI can remember parts of it... was too violent when it was airedJun 27 23:24
tessierI don't remember it being too violent compared to other stuff.Jun 27 23:25
tessierI remember the part when he launched the RPG or bazooka or something.Jun 27 23:25
tessierWas funny.Jun 27 23:25
tessierOf course, I thought Pulp Fiction was hilarious too. :)Jun 27 23:25
tessier"I just shot Marvin!"Jun 27 23:25
tessier"in the face"Jun 27 23:26
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1wyQWUSBbM&feature=channelJun 27 23:26
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- 'Jackass' Star Steve-O Arrested .::. Size~: 92.14 KBJun 27 23:26
schestowitz:-)Jun 27 23:26
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbqbPfKWLd8&feature=channelJun 27 23:28
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Man Arrested for 1,000th Time .::. Size~: 98.5 KBJun 27 23:28
schestowitzDaemonFC: your tax money at workJun 27 23:28
DaemonFCschestowitz: Is there a way, without Pulseaudio, to blacklist the analog soundcard input and force everything on the system to use my webcam microphone?Jun 27 23:29
DaemonFCI've been googling this one forever and it's literally two clicks with PulseaudioJun 27 23:29
DaemonFCbut I can't find anything that describes what I want to doJun 27 23:29
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWULf7MH-4wJun 27 23:33
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Roger Ailes (Fox "News" CEO)  Is A Moron .::. Size~: 101.14 KBJun 27 23:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] +1! RT @jimmy_wales: my phone runs perlJun 27 23:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @ThisCJ: Microsoft panellist falls off stage. #opengovt2010Jun 27 23:48
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNm97DDvXFYJun 27 23:50
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Poll: High % Of Republicans Are Nuts, Misinformed .::. Size~: 112.81 KBJun 27 23:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @einfeldt video?Jun 27 23:51
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