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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] From WSJ. A move toward #ODF adoption in South Korea? http://bit.ly/bfDTOY | Jul 03 00:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @sazzlerock Maurice Moss for Prime Minister! #ITcrowd | Jul 03 00:20 | |
| schestowitz | "i feel pretty sure this is a coincidence, it could happen on any day for the simplest of reasons (we'll see, though!)" http://identi.ca/conversation/39072546#notice-39355939 | Jul 03 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: I see what you mean now | Jul 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | Actually, that would ring truth to some | Jul 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | Cause Major is majorly obese these days | Jul 03 00:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell ’s #Microsoft Propaganda Now in the Press, Microsoft Seeks #Linux ‘Patent Tax’ With SLES http://ur1.ca/0izzo #swpats | Jul 03 00:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @edbott A Microsoft product with a three-letter name (Bob, Kin) is like a Star Trek character with a red shirt: doomed | Jul 03 00:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @rcweir: From WSJ. A move toward #ODF adoption in South Korea? http://bit.ly/bfDTOY | Jul 03 00:58 | |
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| cubezzz | Scotty had a red shirt too | Jul 03 01:01 |
| cubezzz | and he is killed by Nomad | Jul 03 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | erm, what? | Jul 03 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | Scotty survived until TNG | Jul 03 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | his ship found a dyson sphere and got trapped inside | Jul 03 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | and he rigged a transporter to continiously transport him in the same spot repeatedly | Jul 03 01:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | as sort of a half assed stasis pod | Jul 03 01:03 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, he's killed twice :) | Jul 03 01:04 |
| cubezzz | then brought back to life of course (before the end of the episode) | Jul 03 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | that doesnt count then | Jul 03 01:04 |
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| cubezzz | "The Changeling" | Jul 03 01:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Apologies to my readers and commenters, on my arrival home I find my blog has many comments marked as "spam" Ive just sorted it out now | Jul 03 01:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Sometimes Akismet can be too proactive.I don't have moderation on my site,so can I apologize now for those waiting to see their comments | Jul 03 01:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #FF @markeeeeeeeeee - The most unpredictable and sometimes totally irrelevant tweeter in cyberspace... | Jul 03 01:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] upcoming release needs very large US banner print&drop. experience? contact projectk@sunshinepress.org | Jul 03 01:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @sameerverma: ♺ @phayte: Irony: Installing #Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro because OS X just pisses me off. | Jul 03 03:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.newshounds.us/ | Jul 03 03:50 |
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| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 03 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | "Ineligible voters participate in GOP caucus" | Jul 03 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | Clearly they didn't show their photo ID. Does that mean we can deport them to Mexico? | Jul 03 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | Oh please, oh please, oh please!?!? :D | Jul 03 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | Posted by: Ryan | July 02, 2010 at 10:52 PM | Jul 03 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, A friend of mine, a US citizen who legitimately fought her way through the system to become one.... | Jul 03 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | from Mexico no less | Jul 03 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | said she wishes they'd pass that Arizona law here | Jul 03 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | cause of all the illegal immigrants getting the local jobs | Jul 03 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | that was funny | Jul 03 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | I was she was doing her laundry while I was over there and dumped a hamper out on the floor and about got her kitten with it | Jul 03 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | who went running for the other room | Jul 03 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | I was like "Run kitty, run to Arizona where you'll be safe!" | Jul 03 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/02/AR2010070205562.html | Jul 03 04:16 |
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| DaemonFC | There's no excuse for loss of sales at Walmart | Jul 03 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | someone has to take the blame and either quit or get fired | Jul 03 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | or be harassed until they quit :P | Jul 03 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen plenty of well qualified managers get pushed out and replaced over lack of sales increases | Jul 03 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | the company acts like you can hold a gun to people and make them buy stuff | Jul 03 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://athfblog.com/?p=378 | Jul 03 04:25 |
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| DaemonFC | good episode | Jul 03 04:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] I am surprised that I use my Droid so much. When I got it, I didn't think I wd use as much as I do | Jul 03 04:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] I find that having a Droid means that I am able to always have answers to questions, & am better able to stay in touch w friends | Jul 03 04:27 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Govt threatens RIM and SKYPE, asks google to reveal all our emails : #surveillancestate #india http://bit.ly/cQlJui | Jul 03 04:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] I find that I use the Droid to augment conversations w friends in the meatspace by referring to my Droid when Qs come up | Jul 03 04:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] A Droid also makes life more spontaneous bc Droid gives me info on where to go & how to get there | Jul 03 04:37 | |
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| neighborlee | tessier: who is we ;) | Jul 03 04:53 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.insiderpages.com/b/3714735362/coffee-d-vine-huntington | Jul 03 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | Nazi d'vine | Jul 03 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan F. | Jul 03 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | Ron Fusselman is the far right-wing extremist that owns this place. | Jul 03 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | Should call it Nazi d'vine. :P | Jul 03 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather drink day old gas station coffee brewed by Al-Qaeda than support this guy. | Jul 03 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 03 05:34 |
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| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_(drug) | Jul 03 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 03 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | the local police are complaining about this now | Jul 03 05:51 |
| oiaohm | Its not legal here DaemonFC | Jul 03 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 03 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | probably won't be here soon | Jul 03 05:55 |
| oiaohm | It never got approved here in the first place. | Jul 03 05:56 |
| oiaohm | Australian law on drugs is a lot stricter. Once something is artifically made it has to go threw a huge approval process. | Jul 03 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | \"Moore said the city's code enforcement officers will go around to Elkhart shops that sell the incense and ask them to stop selling it. As far as he knows, he has no legal power in order to order them to stop selling it" | Jul 03 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | they could pass a ban on selling it within the city | Jul 03 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 05:57 |
| oiaohm | We have had lot of bad things enter our market. | Jul 03 05:58 |
| oiaohm | The best was beados'. | Jul 03 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | people would just buy it online or out of town though | Jul 03 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, state level bans are a joke | Jul 03 05:58 |
| oiaohm | Chemical was harmless to humans until it met stommic acid. | Jul 03 05:58 |
| oiaohm | Then it turns into LSD. | Jul 03 05:58 |
| oiaohm | Since then regulators here have been a little picky on artifical stuff. | Jul 03 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, like I said, if it's legal in 1 state out of the 50.... | Jul 03 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | people will still buy it | Jul 03 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | in every state | Jul 03 06:00 |
| oiaohm | Here drug regulation is country wide. | Jul 03 06:01 |
| oiaohm | Yep its either approved everywhere or banned everywhere. | Jul 03 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | the states can't ban something? | Jul 03 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Say Indiana bans possession of K2 | Jul 03 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | I could order the stuff online | Jul 03 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | the state can't open the mail to look for it because the post office is federal | Jul 03 06:02 |
| oiaohm | States cannot really ban as such. They can can set sales hours. | Jul 03 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | so they have no power to intercept it | Jul 03 06:02 |
| oiaohm | Insanity of half a second a day is allowed ie only allowed to be sold for half a second a day. | Jul 03 06:02 |
| oiaohm | With no queing. | Jul 03 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, So couldn't they say it's legal to sell something from 12:00 AM to 12:00:01 AM? | Jul 03 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | and not outside of that period | Jul 03 06:03 |
| oiaohm | Yep | Jul 03 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh | Jul 03 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jul 03 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | first thing I thought when you said that | Jul 03 06:03 |
| oiaohm | Mind you the local council can place a ban. | Jul 03 06:04 |
| oiaohm | With a full vote of the population in the area. | Jul 03 06:04 |
| oiaohm | If over 60 percent are against it a ban can be enforced. | Jul 03 06:04 |
| oiaohm | in that local area. | Jul 03 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | well, especially now that the internet is widespread, politicians state level and lower don't really have power over anything | Jul 03 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | except to drive sales out of state :P | Jul 03 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Here post offices can be required to check mail for contraban. | Jul 03 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Same with transport companies. | Jul 03 06:05 |
| oiaohm | So they are not allowed to bring any of that stuff into areas where it is banned. | Jul 03 06:06 |
| oiaohm | There are insane things some areas near hear you are banned from bringing sugger in yes eating sugger. | Jul 03 06:07 |
| oiaohm | Mind you they grow suger cane in the area. And have a lot of suger products on sale. Yes you are allowed to take suger products out but not take any in. | Jul 03 06:08 |
| oiaohm | By the councils rules. | Jul 03 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | nanny state | Jul 03 06:08 |
| oiaohm | Note that is not state | Jul 03 06:09 |
| oiaohm | That is like you counties(ok what you call city/town controlled areas) | Jul 03 06:09 |
| oiaohm | Town/City having that control goes back to crop dease control. Ie to prevent crop deases spreeding. But over the years its been abused. | Jul 03 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Did I mention I had to file a lawsuit against the city last month? | Jul 03 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 06:11 |
| oiaohm | Yep | Jul 03 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | they refused to mow their own field across from my house and the weeds and grass were getting taller than I am | Jul 03 06:12 |
| oiaohm | Here if that happens you mow it then send them the bill. | Jul 03 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | right after I filed the thing in the small claims court and wrote the editor of the local paper, all this industrial mowing shit rolls up one day | Jul 03 06:13 |
| oiaohm | Or worse mow it for 15 years then claim land title. | Jul 03 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | and basically plows the field :P | Jul 03 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 03 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want to look at that, and it was luring pests within about 20 feet of my house | Jul 03 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 06:14 |
| oiaohm | It what you have to watch out for under australian law. | Jul 03 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | if a private property owner did that, the city would have fined them $500 | Jul 03 06:14 |
| oiaohm | If you don't take care of your land and someone else does they can take the title. | Jul 03 06:14 |
| oiaohm | And gets better | Jul 03 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | \the city took possession of that field years ago | Jul 03 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | under eminent domain | Jul 03 06:14 |
| oiaohm | Counsil also would have no right to claim rates against that land. | Jul 03 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | so they could bulldoze a row of condemned houses | Jul 03 06:15 |
| oiaohm | If you got it by maintaining it. | Jul 03 06:15 |
| oiaohm | All parks and concile owned land here get mowed | Jul 03 06:15 |
| oiaohm | Without issues to prevent nicking. | Jul 03 06:16 |
| oiaohm | I guess USA law does not have anything like that. | Jul 03 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | varies by state | Jul 03 06:16 |
| oiaohm | squatters rights? | Jul 03 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | the feds don't get into property disputes except for rare occasions | Jul 03 06:16 |
| oiaohm | Ie squatt on a land long enough its yours. | Jul 03 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Oregon has squatters rights | Jul 03 06:17 |
| oiaohm | to squatt you must take care of it. | Jul 03 06:17 |
| oiaohm | And defend it. | Jul 03 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | if you occupy a house for 6 months and can prove it in court, it's yours | Jul 03 06:17 |
| oiaohm | What about a block of land not being care for. | Jul 03 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, It's an old homesteading law from the 1800s that was never repealed | Jul 03 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | they forgot all about it until squatters used it to take repossessed houses from the banks | Jul 03 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 03 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | last year | Jul 03 06:18 |
| oiaohm | Basically if they will not do there job and you can take the land for a little bit of work why not. | Jul 03 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | I thought that was funnier than hell | Jul 03 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | all of a sudden, squatters seized hundreds of houses from the banks | Jul 03 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | without paying a cent | Jul 03 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Funny part is some of them would have been people kicked out of the houses. | Jul 03 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Jul 03 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Now they have a fair start. | Jul 03 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | some of them were thrown out by the banks for being a few months behind | Jul 03 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | then they snuck back in and occupied the house for 6 months | Jul 03 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | so now they own it outright for free | Jul 03 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | the law is the law | Jul 03 06:20 |
| oiaohm | Banks fault. | Jul 03 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | that's why states shouldn't pass laws to take care of temporary issues | Jul 03 06:20 |
| oiaohm | They should have been taken care of the prop better. | Jul 03 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | they stay on the books for years and get used in ways they weren't intended | Jul 03 06:20 |
| oiaohm | People in buildings prevent vandlism issues. | Jul 03 06:20 |
| oiaohm | And crime growth. | Jul 03 06:21 |
| oiaohm | Some of our banks here do a funny one. | Jul 03 06:21 |
| oiaohm | They take your house then they rent it to you. | Jul 03 06:21 |
| oiaohm | Yep then you cannot squat to take it back. | Jul 03 06:21 |
| oiaohm | Since you have a rental agreement. | Jul 03 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Indiana still has a Marijuana tax stamp law on the books | Jul 03 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | but it was struck down by our state supreme court | Jul 03 06:21 |
| oiaohm | Why? | Jul 03 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | it says you are guilty of tax evasion if you don't buy stamps for your marijuana, even though they never made the stamps | Jul 03 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | and the stamps wouldn't make marijuana legal | Jul 03 06:22 |
| oiaohm | We still as well have Marijuana tax. | Jul 03 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | it was struck down because asking to buy the stamps violated your right not to incriminate yourself | Jul 03 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 06:22 |
| oiaohm | Thinking some drugs used for pain control are marijuana based. | Jul 03 06:22 |
| oiaohm | So still require to pay the tax. | Jul 03 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | apparently someone went and tried to buy the stamps and got arrested | Jul 03 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 03 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | smart huh? | Jul 03 06:23 |
| oiaohm | Here you are double screwed. | Jul 03 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, They had to drop the charge of possession too | Jul 03 06:24 |
| oiaohm | To be correct you are allowed 1 plant for medical reasons DaemonFC | Jul 03 06:24 |
| oiaohm | You are not allowed to sell it. | Jul 03 06:24 |
| oiaohm | Or give it away. | Jul 03 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | since the probably cause they had for the search violated his constitutional rights | Jul 03 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | so in the end, he walked away with the charges cleared | Jul 03 06:24 |
| oiaohm | Any more you are in legal problems. | Jul 03 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | *probable | Jul 03 06:24 |
| oiaohm | Tax avoidance is a big one. | Jul 03 06:24 |
| oiaohm | All products sold that are not food must have GST tax on them. | Jul 03 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, the state supreme court tried to avoid using the US constitution to strike something down if possible | Jul 03 06:25 |
| oiaohm | marijuana is not classed as food. | Jul 03 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | they will if they have to | Jul 03 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | but they try to cite Indiana laws and the state constitution as their reasoning first | Jul 03 06:25 |
| oiaohm | Do you have a VAT or a GST over there? | Jul 03 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | *tried | Jul 03 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | errr | Jul 03 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | tries | Jul 03 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | there's a sales tax at state level | Jul 03 06:26 |
| oiaohm | Basically if you do all drug sellers would most likely be doing tax avoidance. | Jul 03 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | 7% of the sale price of most things besides food in the grocery store | Jul 03 06:26 |
| oiaohm | If not for the drug for the item the drug is in. | Jul 03 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | though they expanded the tax to soda | Jul 03 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | but they can't charge the tax on soda if you pay with food stamps | Jul 03 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | because the Federal law says that nothing that is bought with food stamps can be taxed by the state | Jul 03 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | and soda qualifies as food for purposes of the food stamps | Jul 03 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | so do tampons oddly enough | Jul 03 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 03 06:27 |
| oiaohm | We don't have food stamps as such. | Jul 03 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | they defined consumable items in such a way that tampons qualified as food | Jul 03 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | but not pads | Jul 03 06:28 |
| oiaohm | Yep goes inside body. | Jul 03 06:28 |
| oiaohm | Define. | Jul 03 06:28 |
| oiaohm | Wonder if but plug would pass. DaemonFC Yes wrong thought of course. | Jul 03 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm | Jul 03 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | butt plug is not disposable so maybe not | Jul 03 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/investigations/immigrationandlabor/1252/timed_out_on_welfare,_many_sell_food_stamps/ | Jul 03 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | there's a real concern | Jul 03 06:29 |
| oiaohm | Here the reason why you end up with like food stamps is a drug problem. | Jul 03 06:34 |
| oiaohm | But you can buy basically anything with them but you spending will be audited. | Jul 03 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that's why you should open a bank account if you get cash benefits | Jul 03 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | they can put them on a state issued debit card, but then they can audit you | Jul 03 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | and tell you if they think that going to Taco Bell once that month was excessive | Jul 03 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | if you get a bank account, you can censor the specifics before you mail a copy of the statements they demand | Jul 03 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | all the statement copy has to show is how much you spent or deposited into the account | Jul 03 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | you can use white out on the "Taco Bell" part and then copy the thing off and send them the copy | Jul 03 06:37 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @partimus Got a temp email list & a temp Google calendar set up today. It's a start! | Jul 03 06:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | bank account in the middle makes it a lot harder for them to pry around and see what you've bought | Jul 03 06:38 |
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| Techrights | Hello World! | Jul 03 06:39 |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, caseworkers at those government agencies like to be assholes and give people a hard time about what a "necessary expense" is | Jul 03 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | they'll even yell at you for using the state debit card to pay a doctor bill sometimes | Jul 03 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, people with major attitude problems who just want to be control freaks end up getting those jobs I think | Jul 03 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | makes them feel powerful if they get to hear someone begging them for food | Jul 03 06:44 |
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| DaemonFC | I've had to deal with a few of those types because of my aunt | Jul 03 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | there's no job my aunt can do | Jul 03 06:48 |
| ender2070 | really? | Jul 03 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | she's got macular degeneration, she needs a hip and a knee replacement | Jul 03 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | they're turning her down for that and hitting her with pain killers | Jul 03 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | because the operation is going to be expensive | Jul 03 06:49 |
| ender2070 | she can't telephone people all day asking if they need windows & doors? | Jul 03 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | and they're really hoping she dies before they have to pay for it | Jul 03 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | yes and no, I don't think you appreciate how our system treats people | Jul 03 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | why pay her to do it and add a liability to their group plan | Jul 03 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | when they can pay a teenager to do it three times as fast who won't make any claims on their health insurance | Jul 03 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | so even if you can do something and have a disability in the US, nobody wants to hire you | Jul 03 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | because they can pay someone else less and get more work done | Jul 03 06:52 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 03 06:52 |
| ender2070 | thats messed up | Jul 03 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | my step-mom got fired from the health insurance claims department | Jul 03 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | because she had health insurance claims :P | Jul 03 06:52 |
| ender2070 | lol? | Jul 03 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | true story | Jul 03 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | her job was being a claims adjuster | Jul 03 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | and she started developing her own health problems and so HER boss fired her' | Jul 03 06:53 |
| ender2070 | is her boss Rasputin? | Jul 03 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | there's a lot of Rasputin bosses out there | Jul 03 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know if you noticed | Jul 03 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, and if they aren't a total bastard, they get in trouble with their boss | Jul 03 06:55 |
| *DaemonFC has experience in middle management such as this | Jul 03 06:55 | |
| DaemonFC | Walmart's management program trains you to be Gordon Gekko's personal assistant's personal assistant | Jul 03 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, | Jul 03 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 06:56 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 03 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | if you're an assistant manager, your job is to implement policies of the people who don't want to be shot when the people you're in charge of screwing over come back to work one day with a gun | Jul 03 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | at least that's my opinion | Jul 03 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | your job is to be hated so that upper management can be the "good cop" | Jul 03 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | "I never TOLD him to do that" | Jul 03 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | (it was strongly implied) | Jul 03 06:58 |
| ender2070 | i had one boss who played both halves against the middle | Jul 03 06:58 |
| ender2070 | he pretended to be on our side but backstabbed us to his bosses | Jul 03 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I got tired of prefixing the bad news with "This really is not coming from me, and I am truly sorry I have to do this, but..." | Jul 03 06:59 |
| ender2070 | he would blame us for his mistakes, and then blame them so we wouldnt get mad at him | Jul 03 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, The one time I actually fired someone | Jul 03 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | being as to where I was the one to make the decision to fire him | Jul 03 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | the district manager hired him back, put him on 2nd shift | Jul 03 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | and wrote me up | Jul 03 07:00 |
| ender2070 | why? | Jul 03 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | so I gave up making decisions at that point | Jul 03 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | from then on the only decisions I made had been made before I made them | Jul 03 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Honest answer or his story? | Jul 03 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | Honest answer: Lazy effing retard, idiot idiot idiot, comes into work when he doesn't feel like skipping out and smoking pot | Jul 03 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | His story, medical condition, doctors notes (from the Redimed clinic, from a doctor with the same last name as him) | Jul 03 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | he said lawsuit and the district manager overruled me | Jul 03 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 07:03 |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070, Now when I was free to be a bastard was after they already hurt themselves and wanted to slap Walmart with the doctors bill | Jul 03 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | that's when I enjoyed being a bastard | Jul 03 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | cause I'd have them hop in my car and we'd go down to the emergency room | Jul 03 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | and I'd have them give a drug test right there | Jul 03 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | and there were a few times where they failed the drug test and found their own ride home from the ER | Jul 03 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | if you're stupid enough to come into work stoned and drop something heavy on yourself, that's what you deserve dammit | Jul 03 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Then if they passed the drug test but were already on my shitlist for other reasons, I'd twist the doctor's arm to get them on light duty | Jul 03 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | I had one person who ran over their foot with a pallet jack | Jul 03 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | and broke their foot | Jul 03 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | back into work the next night, in a wheel chair | Jul 03 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | rearranging merchandise for their entire shift | Jul 03 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I also have a lot of funny stories about shoplifters | Jul 03 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | some are just gross | Jul 03 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | one kid shit himself when he thought I saw him stealing a video game, so he went and stole a package of underwear too | Jul 03 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | and a pair of scissors | Jul 03 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | I was waiting outside the mens room with the kids mother when he came back out | Jul 03 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | she wasn't happy :P | Jul 03 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | he got a beating, she paid for all of the stuff, and I made her sign a paper agreeing not to ever come back to the store | Jul 03 07:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Problem here full bank statements can be demarded by centerlink( ie the one that pays out unemployment payments) | Jul 03 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | there's a policy not to prosecute if the person is under 14 or over 65 | Jul 03 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | they don't like to make that widely known obviously | Jul 03 07:12 |
| oiaohm | Only way to avoid is the way I do it. I pay for almost everything in cash. | Jul 03 07:12 |
| oiaohm | So all my bank account shows is cash withdrawal of X | Jul 03 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, right, just take everything out in cash | Jul 03 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | then they can't prove where it went | Jul 03 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | or how much | Jul 03 07:13 |
| oiaohm | If you are done for drugs that can be excluded. | Jul 03 07:13 |
| oiaohm | No atm or epos will give you cash in that case. | Jul 03 07:13 |
| oiaohm | Yes here they have it locked down quite tight on anyone done for drugs. | Jul 03 07:13 |
| oiaohm | Basically don't get a drug conviction here or centlink can make you life a living hell. DaemonFC | Jul 03 07:15 |
| oiaohm | Even worse they don't have to ask you for you bank statements DaemonFC | Jul 03 07:16 |
| oiaohm | They can ask the bank directly. DaemonFC | Jul 03 07:16 |
| oiaohm | Ie why cutting stuff out does not work here DaemonFC | Jul 03 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, You only lose food stamps, subsidized housing, or student grants if you get a felony | Jul 03 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | unless it's drug related | Jul 03 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | misdemeanor possession is the only misdemeanor that they can count against you for that | Jul 03 07:17 |
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| oiaohm | Note drunk driving fall under drug releated. You call be a allocolic. Until proven not centerlink can be a prick. DaemonFC | Jul 03 07:19 |
| oiaohm | Yes legal or illegal drugs can get you on the wrong side of centerlink. | Jul 03 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | alcoholics get more disability here | Jul 03 07:20 |
| DaemonFC | it goes along with their "mental illness" | Jul 03 07:20 |
| oiaohm | adiction is aditction here. | Jul 03 07:20 |
| DaemonFC | the only way alcoholism could count against you is that they might make you designate a payee | Jul 03 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | if they think you'd just blow it all on booze | Jul 03 07:21 |
| oiaohm | So far internet adiction does not exist in centerlinks eyes. | Jul 03 07:21 |
| oiaohm | If it ever does boy that could be a nightmare. | Jul 03 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, unless it's a crime, it doesn't impact your qualifying for welfare | Jul 03 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | at least not in the US | Jul 03 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | Social Security could make you come in for a drug test, but they can only use the results to say that you need a payee | Jul 03 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | they can't take away your disability or anything for coming back positive | Jul 03 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | because you were not convicted of a crime | Jul 03 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, The government also has a bad habit of paying out SSDI benefits to people in jail | Jul 03 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | their family often doesn't report that they're in jail because then the checks would stop coming | Jul 03 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | yes it's fraud | Jul 03 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | but criminals don't care about the law, that's why they're in jail | Jul 03 07:25 |
| oiaohm | Here is funny. | Jul 03 07:30 |
| oiaohm | go to jail get more free study than not being in jail. | Jul 03 07:30 |
| oiaohm | Basically cheapest way to do a UNI course is jail. | Jul 03 07:31 |
| oiaohm | If you think you can get a job after with a record. | Jul 03 07:31 |
| oiaohm | Benifits here don't get cut because of being a crim. | Jul 03 07:32 |
| oiaohm | But what you can do with the benifits get altered. | Jul 03 07:32 |
| oiaohm | There is a reason DaemonFC It was found here cutting of benifits causes more crime from people who have no option. | Jul 03 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, politicians here know that too | Jul 03 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | it's the voters who don't | Jul 03 07:35 |
| oiaohm | One of the recent one for drug crime is good. | Jul 03 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | politicians are out to turn the justice system into vindictive retribution to satisfy voters | Jul 03 07:35 |
| oiaohm | If you don't attend you rehab meeting after coming out of jail you can be put back in jail so you have to attented. | Jul 03 07:36 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the population is happy here. | Jul 03 07:37 |
| oiaohm | Because we see crims suffer. | Jul 03 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, They like to do pre-trial diversion here | Jul 03 07:37 |
| oiaohm | Biggest problem we have is what todo with pedofiles after they get out no where wants them. | Jul 03 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | "We'll drop the charges if you pay us $1,000 and go to anger management every week for 6 months" | Jul 03 07:38 |
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| DaemonFC | if you drop out of that, they put you back on the active docket | Jul 03 07:38 |
| neighborlee | oiaohm: they must be left in until they are proven safe to society imho | Jul 03 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | and your agreement to participate in the diversion serves as a guilty plea you cannot retract | Jul 03 07:38 |
| oiaohm | Our community here will never believe they are safe neighborlee | Jul 03 07:39 |
| neighborlee | oiaohm: its just not worthy the risk to innocent children...nor is the fault entirely with the acuser but somewhere along the chain responsibility must be accepted im afraid | Jul 03 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | however, if you complete the program, they take your case off the inactive docket and it's like it never happened | Jul 03 07:39 |
| oiaohm | No matter what they are told. | Jul 03 07:39 |
| neighborlee | oiaohm: and I dont blame them at all.. | Jul 03 07:39 |
| oiaohm | Maybe we need to set up a pedo town. | Jul 03 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, It gives rich people a way to buy their way out of trouble | Jul 03 07:39 |
| neighborlee | oiaohm: too often government doesn't work as intended < as if it ever was> and im sure cities are little better | Jul 03 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | and it leaves room for a high failure rate | Jul 03 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | equals a slam dunk conviction if you miss a requirement and end up back on the docket :) | Jul 03 07:40 |
| oiaohm | Here we have no convition recorded option by judge. | Jul 03 07:40 |
| oiaohm | So you do a crime you will go before judge. | Jul 03 07:40 |
| oiaohm | If diversion is on the table it upto the judge. | Jul 03 07:40 |
| neighborlee | well the aruba case proved very well what money does for you | Jul 03 07:41 |
| neighborlee | though now he is paying the price | Jul 03 07:41 |
| oiaohm | Money is not everything. | Jul 03 07:41 |
| neighborlee | actuallly its nothing | Jul 03 07:41 |
| oiaohm | Problem with winning by money is sooner or latter you get reckless to far. | Jul 03 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Yes, you sign the agreement for the diversion with the prosecutor | Jul 03 07:42 |
| neighborlee | or at least one day it wont be < in a resource based e conomny> | Jul 03 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | then the judge has to agree | Jul 03 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | typically they will | Jul 03 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | if the judge does not agree, you still have the right to enter a plea of not guilty | Jul 03 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 07:42 |
| oiaohm | Here not option. | Jul 03 07:42 |
| neighborlee | oiaohm: as jesus said,came through needle before rich man into heaven and god knows its usually quite true | Jul 03 07:42 |
| neighborlee | ......................camel | Jul 03 07:42 |
| oiaohm | You want diversion plea of guilty is required. | Jul 03 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, If you're broke and can't afford the diversion, they make it easier to just plead guilty and get it over with | Jul 03 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | if you plead not guilty and end up with a public defender, you' | Jul 03 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | you're screwed | Jul 03 07:43 |
| oiaohm | Here entering diversion does not take money. | Jul 03 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | of course that's not the official line | Jul 03 07:44 |
| oiaohm | Just showing judge that there is hope for you. | Jul 03 07:44 |
| oiaohm | Goverment pays for diversion. | Jul 03 07:44 |
| oiaohm | Since diversion is cheaper than having you in jail. | Jul 03 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | not here, here it can be anywhere from $500 to $1,000 | Jul 03 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | that's before you pay for your anger management meetings | Jul 03 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 07:44 |
| neighborlee | who are we talking about here :) | Jul 03 07:44 |
| neighborlee | hm | Jul 03 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | well, it happened to me a few years ago | Jul 03 07:45 |
| neighborlee | what made you so angry anyway | Jul 03 07:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes we are doing law compares neighborlee | Jul 03 07:45 |
| neighborlee | I get that | Jul 03 07:45 |
| oiaohm | Australia USA now where are you neighborlee | Jul 03 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | and I'm glad I broke his effing face because I'd hate to think I had to go to those idiotic meetings for no reason | Jul 03 07:45 |
| neighborlee | usa/seattle'ish | Jul 03 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | god what a bunch of douches | Jul 03 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 07:45 |
| neighborlee | i see you learned nothing | Jul 03 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | I pretended to be sorry | Jul 03 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | : | Jul 03 07:46 |
| neighborlee | I can tell | Jul 03 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 07:46 |
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| DaemonFC | neighborlee, http://www.centerfornv.org/ | Jul 03 07:47 |
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| DaemonFC | they have a website | Jul 03 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | Frontpage 2003 ftw! | Jul 03 07:47 |
| neighborlee | ugh | Jul 03 07:47 |
| neighborlee | so your in indiana I take it | Jul 03 07:47 |
| neighborlee | no wait I thought ny | Jul 03 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Jul 03 07:47 |
| neighborlee | ic | Jul 03 07:48 |
| neighborlee | almost my old backyard <iowa:cb> | Jul 03 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | Iowa? | Jul 03 07:48 |
| neighborlee | born/raised | Jul 03 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | no, gay marriage is legal there | Jul 03 07:48 |
| neighborlee | yes I know | Jul 03 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | so that means common law gay marriage is legal there | Jul 03 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | which means I would have been charged with a felony there | Jul 03 07:48 |
| neighborlee | I was shocked when I heard it | Jul 03 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | hooray I'm in the state of Republicans!!! | Jul 03 07:49 |
| neighborlee | yup | Jul 03 07:49 |
| neighborlee | well,,,in this century, its pure arrogance and idiocy for any state to declare war against gay people.. | Jul 03 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana got rid of common law marriages in 1958 | Jul 03 07:49 |
| neighborlee | there used to be a defense, but now its just pure idiocy | Jul 03 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | our legal system is totally codified | Jul 03 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | not every state is like that though | Jul 03 07:49 |
| neighborlee | I still am not sure why they did it.but it made me feel very proud to be from iowa whenI h eard ;) | Jul 03 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | 49 states have codified law based on English common law, or codified and common law side by side (total mess) | Jul 03 07:51 |
| neighborlee | and ashamed to say atm I live in wa state where its still not legal | Jul 03 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | Louisiana law is based on the Napoleonic system | Jul 03 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | Louisiana has a lot of legal terminology that you won't see in any other state | Jul 03 07:52 |
| neighborlee | afraid to ask | Jul 03 07:52 |
| DaemonFC | there's certain situations where private property can be borrowed without asking | Jul 03 07:52 |
| DaemonFC | by another private citizen | Jul 03 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not theft | Jul 03 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | if they can prove it was for the good of the community | Jul 03 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 07:53 |
| neighborlee | heh | Jul 03 07:53 |
| neighborlee | I guess it depends on how temporary it is and whats its used for | Jul 03 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | hide your lawnmower! | Jul 03 07:53 |
| neighborlee | but yeah thats very odd | Jul 03 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | Louisiana doesn't call their subdivisions counties | Jul 03 07:54 |
| neighborlee | well long as they sign out for it I guesss LOL | Jul 03 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | they are called a Parish, not a County | Jul 03 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | same legal standing though | Jul 03 07:54 |
| neighborlee | yup | Jul 03 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | they don't call sections of their laws "articles" | Jul 03 07:55 |
| neighborlee | been all over the news, so yup | Jul 03 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | they call them "chapters" | Jul 03 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | there is no official state language, but a lot of things are written in French | Jul 03 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | as well as English | Jul 03 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | as well as Spanish :D | Jul 03 07:56 |
| neighborlee | friend from there..french is in his family so ill go with that one ;) | Jul 03 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | English is the official state language of Indiana | Jul 03 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | no state agency is allowed to distribute literature in any other language | Jul 03 07:56 |
| neighborlee | last I checked yes ;)and iowa ;0-0 | Jul 03 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | but everything in the food stamp office is doubled in Spanish | Jul 03 07:57 |
| oiaohm | Here if it to save a life you can take what ever you need without asking. | Jul 03 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | cause that's part federal | Jul 03 07:57 |
| oiaohm | Of course after life is saved stuff has to be returned. | Jul 03 07:57 |
| oiaohm | Even if it was broken in the process. | Jul 03 07:57 |
| oiaohm | You are not liable. | Jul 03 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | unemployment office has Spanish literature as well | Jul 03 07:57 |
| neighborlee | same here im almost sure | Jul 03 07:57 |
| neighborlee | thats just logical | Jul 03 07:57 |
| neighborlee | I mean who is going to care, if its used to save a life :) | Jul 03 07:58 |
| oiaohm | One guy did here. | Jul 03 07:58 |
| neighborlee | nice guy | Jul 03 07:58 |
| oiaohm | And tried suing over his broken machine. | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | no state agency is allowed to distribute literature in any other language | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | last I checked yes ;)and iowa ;0-0 | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | but everything in the food stamp office is doubled in Spanish | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | Here if it to save a life you can take what ever you need without asking. | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | cause that's part federal | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | Of course after life is saved stuff has to be returned. | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | Even if it was broken in the process. | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | You are not liable. | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | unemployment office has Spanish literature as well | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | same here im almost sure | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | thats just logical | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | I mean who is going to care, if its used to save a life :) | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | One guy did here. | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | nice guy | Jul 03 07:58 |
| Techrights | And tried suing over his broken machine. | Jul 03 07:58 |
| oiaohm | Yes when a Million dollar plus mining machine is stuffed | Jul 03 07:58 |
| neighborlee | wth is that | Jul 03 07:58 |
| neighborlee | lol | Jul 03 07:58 |
| oiaohm | People have a habit of getting upset. | Jul 03 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana got into a pissing contest with the feds a few years ago because we have a low income health insurance plan | Jul 03 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | the state wasn't writing any of the apps in Spanish | Jul 03 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | but was trying to fund the system with Medicaid credits | Jul 03 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 07:59 |
| oiaohm | Hmm the bot still glitches | Jul 03 07:59 |
| neighborlee | :) | Jul 03 07:59 |
| oiaohm | I still remember seeing gas bombs being used to stop a mining truck that was stolen. | Jul 03 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | then we went back to court when the feds tried to say we had to pass out literature in the DMV in Spanish | Jul 03 08:00 |
| neighborlee | our government is horribly b roken, thats abundantly and sadly clear now with gulf oil disaster.. | Jul 03 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | because our drivers licenses comply with Real ID | Jul 03 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | we won that case though | Jul 03 08:00 |
| oiaohm | Tires on the mining truck are that think that rockets are point less. | Jul 03 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | because state law says that illegal aliens can't get a drivers license anyway | Jul 03 08:00 |
| oiaohm | Plat armor on the truck is that thick that most tank shells are going no where. | Jul 03 08:00 |
| oiaohm | But the thing needs a air intake for engine. | Jul 03 08:00 |
| oiaohm | And air. | Jul 03 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | neighborlee, Want to know something funny? | Jul 03 08:01 |
| oiaohm | So right form of gas kill engine. | Jul 03 08:01 |
| oiaohm | Now my question can tanks be stopped this way. | Jul 03 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana state ID is free now because it's required in order to vote | Jul 03 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | charging for an ID would be a poll tax | Jul 03 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 08:01 |
| neighborlee | yeah LOL voting is another tragic mess everywhere | Jul 03 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | the state supreme court ruled that it is constitutional for Indiana to require photo ID to vote, but that charging for the ID would amount to a poll tax | Jul 03 08:02 |
| neighborlee | districts and how they are illlegally divided is a tragic and ridiculous mess | Jul 03 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | so now the Republicans are costing our system millions of dollars to prevent "voter fraud" that wasn't happening anyway | Jul 03 08:02 |
| neighborlee | how much were they to begin with | Jul 03 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | neighborlee, the Democrats were orchestrating voter fraud that was so effective and sneaky that the Republicans won every presidential election from 1968 to 2004 | Jul 03 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | see how rampant the fraud was? :) | Jul 03 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | one Democrat won in 44 years | Jul 03 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | obviously they cheated | Jul 03 08:04 |
| oiaohm | Question who was doing the fraud | Jul 03 08:04 |
| neighborlee | yeah | Jul 03 08:04 |
| oiaohm | I alway look very closely at someone claming another person is doing fraud | Jul 03 08:04 |
| oiaohm | Lot of a cases they are both gulity. | Jul 03 08:04 |
| oiaohm | Ie takes a person who knows fraud to catch fraud | Jul 03 08:04 |
| neighborlee | like gulf mess...government 'let' BP get away with less safety precautions..both guilty < | Jul 03 08:05 |
| oiaohm | Ie I would personally suspect Republicans of frawed. | Jul 03 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, I don't think it's easy to call someone a liar and a crook and get away with it in Australia | Jul 03 08:05 |
| neighborlee | what a embarrasing situation ;09-0 | Jul 03 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | is it? | Jul 03 08:05 |
| oiaohm | Depends where. | Jul 03 08:05 |
| Techrights | Ie I would personally suspect Republicans of frawed. | Jul 03 08:06 |
| Techrights | oiaohm, I don't think it's easy to call someone a liar and a crook and get away with it in Australia | Jul 03 08:06 |
| Techrights | what a embarrasing situation ;09-0 | Jul 03 08:06 |
| Techrights | is it? | Jul 03 08:06 |
| Techrights | Depends where. | Jul 03 08:06 |
| DaemonFC | here the burden of proof if they sue you for calling them something is on them | Jul 03 08:06 |
| neighborlee | well..sadly both parties have the hands in tainted water | Jul 03 08:06 |
| oiaohm | Parlement floor you can get away with anything. | Jul 03 08:06 |
| neighborlee | and with that im heading downstairs for tv and rest its late here..thx all for chat ttyl ;0-0 | Jul 03 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, still, before I call someone a string of dirty names, I prefix it with "It is my opinion that John Doe is a filthy lying rotten cheating bastard" | Jul 03 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 03 08:07 |
| oiaohm | Note word suspect here has special meaning you did not acuse them of it. | Jul 03 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | that way they can't say I was trying to make a statement of fact | Jul 03 08:07 |
| oiaohm | Drunk down the pub you can call people almost anything and at worst get a drunk and disorderly. | Jul 03 08:08 |
| oiaohm | Yes where and what state you are in if you are guilty or not. | Jul 03 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | public intoxication | Jul 03 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 03 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | there's a common misdemeanor | Jul 03 08:09 |
| oiaohm | Particularly in Australia | Jul 03 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title12/ar23/ch15.html | Jul 03 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | if you're not causing trouble, the law says they have to take you to your home or to a friend or relative's house to sleep it off | Jul 03 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 03 08:11 |
| oiaohm | Here no. | Jul 03 08:11 |
| oiaohm | go to jail straight to jail and hope to be bailed. | Jul 03 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, It's not really a crime unless you're causing damage or threatening others | Jul 03 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | if you're not a threat to anyone, they'll take you somewhere to sleep it off | Jul 03 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | and then let you go | Jul 03 08:12 |
| oiaohm | Here you can be taken to jail if you are a risk of getting mugged. | Jul 03 08:12 |
| oiaohm | Yes does not pay to be extreamly drunk here. | Jul 03 08:12 |
| oiaohm | Or you can have a really bad what the hell did I do when you wake up. | Jul 03 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | if you're committing another crime while drunk in public, then the public intoxication is a Class B Misdemeanor | Jul 03 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | and can add up to 6 months in jail | Jul 03 08:13 |
| oiaohm | Better is that drunk and disorderly is a record free confivtion. | Jul 03 08:13 |
| oiaohm | Unless you do it a lot. | Jul 03 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | so nayone who actually gets charged with a PI was also doing something else | Jul 03 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's never the only thing they got charged with in Indiana | Jul 03 08:14 |
| oiaohm | Here you can be charged of the police of sick of seeing you. | Jul 03 08:14 |
| oiaohm | Yes 1 guy I know who got done has been in lock up 12 weekends in a row. | Jul 03 08:14 |
| oiaohm | On drunk and disorderly. | Jul 03 08:15 |
| oiaohm | Yes police kinda got sick of him and charged him with being drunk and disorderly and being a public nusince. | Jul 03 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana has a supremacy system mirroring federal law | Jul 03 08:15 |
| oiaohm | Yes public nusince is still on the books. | Jul 03 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | if the state law takes care of something, a locality can't make it a crime of their own with a different sentence | Jul 03 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | now, they CAN classify something that's already illegal as a civil infraction | Jul 03 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | but those can't carry more than a $500 fine | Jul 03 08:16 |
| oiaohm | And the ground of the public nusines was the cost in police and jail time | Jul 03 08:17 |
| oiaohm | Not that the person had done any damage. DaemonFC | Jul 03 08:17 |
| oiaohm | He had not even thrown up in the jail cell. | Jul 03 08:17 |
| oiaohm | For a smashed drunk is was quite clean. | Jul 03 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Public Nuisance laws are at the city's discretion here | Jul 03 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | but are a civil infraction with not more than a $500 fine | Jul 03 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | and it's easier to challenge a civil infraction, especially one that's not also a crime | Jul 03 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | playing the stereo too loud is a Public Nuisance issue | Jul 03 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | for example | Jul 03 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | a local government can't do anything other than issue civil infractions | Jul 03 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | unless they're enforcing a state law | Jul 03 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | so if the state says speeding in a school zone is a $1,000 fine, the local government can fine you $1,000 and/or charge you with reckless endangerment :P | Jul 03 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of at their discretion | Jul 03 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | you're going to wind up in their county jail more than likely | Jul 03 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | the county I live in charges you for your jail term | Jul 03 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | like $15 a day I think :P | Jul 03 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | so if you spend a month in jail, you're going to cough up some money | Jul 03 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | they don't like throwing people in jail here for long periods of time anyway | Jul 03 08:22 |
| DaemonFC | they try to use other things as an excuse to let you out early | Jul 03 08:22 |
| DaemonFC | probation is common | Jul 03 08:22 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Infractions and misdemeanors tend to extract money from you more than anything else | Jul 03 08:23 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 08:23 |
| DaemonFC | if you have lots of money you can usually make misdeameanors go away | Jul 03 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | that's why they love slapping people with citations | Jul 03 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | headlight out, pay the county $50 | Jul 03 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | not wearing your seat belt, pay the county $20 | Jul 03 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | didn't mow your lawn this month, $400 citation | Jul 03 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | they get really dicky about things that they can issue a fine over | Jul 03 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | even if a lot of them get overturned, many more people will just pay the fine | Jul 03 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_Missouri | Jul 03 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Jul 03 08:28 |
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| DaemonFC | "No prohibition on consumption by minors (though purchase, possession, and intoxication by minors are prohibited);" | Jul 03 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | curious on how that one works | Jul 03 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | how do you consume alcohol you don't have and can't buy, and avoid becoming intoxicated on it? | Jul 03 08:30 |
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| oiaohm | That works on the ground of coff medicene. | Jul 03 08:49 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: as well as partent provide drinks and so on DaemonFC | Jul 03 08:49 |
| oiaohm | Ie kid not allowed to have bottle but can have glass. | Jul 03 08:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Thanks so much Mr. Roger Waters from Pink Floyd for this amazing song. #GAZA #FreePalestine- "We Shall Overcome" http://youtu.be/vnMMHepfYVc | Jul 03 09:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Video Prison: Why Patents Might Threaten Free Online Video - http://bit.ly/8YmSWU nothing new, but a good summary #video #swpats | Jul 03 09:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Myth That Without Gov't Monopolies Or Subsidies, Discoveries Will Be Hidden By Secrets - http://bit.ly/ddiIf3 fascinating stuff #sharing | Jul 03 09:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Creative Commons Open Office Plugin gets a new UI and supports for Public Domain tools - http://bit.ly/9LJnw4 handy #cc #openoffice | Jul 03 09:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Kindle and iPad Books Take Longer to Read than Print - http://bit.ly/addUVZ small sample size, worth following up #reading #ebooks | Jul 03 09:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Microsoft Invention Lets You Insert Batteries in Any Direction - http://bit.ly/bRbHPJ obviously realised it's finished as a sw company... | Jul 03 09:33 | |
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| Murloc | Hello people | Jul 03 09:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Guardian Takes Next Step in Open Content Strategy With Blog Plugin - http://bit.ly/9UlMMB nice to see an opening up as The TImes locks down | Jul 03 09:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Bill Introduced To Pressure Countries That Seek To Break The Internet - http://bit.ly/ceE5AS seeks to enforce US-centric view of what Net is | Jul 03 09:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “… the general scientific world has been bamboozled into believing that evolution has been proved. Nothing (cont) http://tl.gd/29aopf | Jul 03 09:44 | |
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| robertzaccour | wow this chat has people in it | Jul 03 09:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] 3D TV images guzzle up to 50% more power than 2D - http://bit.ly/bpHcTq fab - just what the planet needs #energy #3d #tv | Jul 03 09:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] pic of the week: Watching for Mongols - http://bit.ly/8ZL00l #pic #china | Jul 03 09:53 | |
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| robertzaccour | i don't prefer MS for my OS, however ya gotta admit, they have lots of employees and provide a lot of jobs. In that sense I think the good outweighs the bad | Jul 03 09:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Hollow Men of Economics - http://bit.ly/9dP0WN "post-war economists don’t do energy, except as an ever-expanding resource" #energy | Jul 03 09:58 | |
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| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/APiVt/ | Jul 03 10:15 |
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| schestowitz | Haha | Jul 03 10:15 |
| robertzaccour | chat here is dead | Jul 03 10:16 |
| robertzaccour | i wouldn't imagine, with all these people | Jul 03 10:16 |
| robertzaccour | i think they're people | Jul 03 10:16 |
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| schestowitz | [09:33] [Notice] -BNtwitter to #boycottnovell- [glynmoody] Microsoft Invention Lets You Insert Batteries in Any Direction | Jul 03 10:30 |
| schestowitz | How is that of much use? | Jul 03 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Hi, Murloc | Jul 03 10:32 |
| Murloc | Hey Roy | Jul 03 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Been away for a while here..... | Jul 03 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Just posted some links | Jul 03 10:33 |
| Murloc | I see. | Jul 03 10:33 |
| Murloc | So anything new happening? | Jul 03 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Not really | Jul 03 10:35 |
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| oiaohm | There are more dependable methods to allow any direction batteries schestowitz | Jul 03 11:18 |
| oiaohm | A few diodes does the job better. Less complex contact system. | Jul 03 11:19 |
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| cubezzz | ok, I wonder if busybox 1.16 works on linux 2.2. kernel | Jul 03 11:44 |
| cubezzz | nope | Jul 03 11:45 |
| cubezzz | oh well let's try getdate | Jul 03 11:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Independence Day Perspective on #GNU #Linux , Liberal Value Not the Sole Advantage http://ur1.ca/0j5ra http://ur1.ca/0j5rb | Jul 03 11:50 | |
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| cubezzz | I need some source code that can set the date remotely | Jul 03 11:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Pogson Rescues PCs from Windows, Using #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/0j5ug http://ur1.ca/0j5uh | Jul 03 11:54 | |
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| oiaohm | http://sintelgame.org/ Its getting more interesting | Jul 03 11:55 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Scalability and Software Management Advantages in #GNU #Linux Highlighted http://ur1.ca/0j5w5 http://ur1.ca/0j5w6 http://ur1.ca/0j5w7 | Jul 03 11:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | An Open Letter To United Biscuits | The Digital Prism - I also let UB know about this post http://tinyurl.com/2wmb7qo | Jul 03 12:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Special Weekend Opportunity for Gamers on #GNU #Linux http://lgn.linux-hardcore.com/hon-free-2-play-weekend-a-patch-jobs-and-more-news/ | Jul 03 13:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Palm Creates More Incentive to Target Linux/WebOS, #Tablets Coming http://ur1.ca/0j85e http://ur1.ca/0j85f http://ur1.ca/0j85g | Jul 03 13:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Day 1" of #MeeGo #GNU #Linux is Announced http://ur1.ca/0j86l http://ur1.ca/0j86o http://ur1.ca/0j86p | Jul 03 13:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia / #MeeGo #Linux -based #Tablets Are Coming, UI Improved http://ur1.ca/0j87h http://ur1.ca/0j87i http://ur1.ca/0j87j | Jul 03 13:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android Winning the 'Apps War' http://ur1.ca/0j89a http://ur1.ca/0j89b http://ur1.ca/0j89c http://ur1.ca/0j89d http://ur1.ca/0j89f | Jul 03 13:57 | |
| Techrights | Title: Research: Androids Big Lead Over Apple In Free Apps| paidContent .::. Size~: 28.41 KB | Jul 03 13:57 |
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| Techrights | Title: Kindle for Android app ships, but Froyo roll-out hits snag - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.9 KB | Jul 03 13:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks smear campaign continues, now 8 wholly fabricated articles in Cryptome http://bit.ly/af1c6o | Jul 03 14:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Nice pun ♺ @gbraad: d*mn, @reality sucks! | Jul 03 14:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Interestingly, the Cryptome fabrications try to undermine cashflow and leadership. Don't let them http://bit.ly/dv6i0G | Jul 03 14:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #HP Has Sub-notebooks Running #GNU #Linux , #OLPC XOs Spread to Classrooms http://ur1.ca/0j8ml http://ur1.ca/0j8mn | Jul 03 14:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Tablets 2.1 With #Android / #Linux on Sale, Android 3.0 to Put More Focus on Tablets http://ur1.ca/0j8ns http://ur1.ca/0j8nv | Jul 03 14:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Cisco Takes on #Apple in Business, Using #Linux http://www.muktware.com/news/30/2010/217 http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/70322.html | Jul 03 14:23 | |
| Techrights | Title: Will Android Cius Kill iPad? | Muktware .::. Size~: 19.64 KB | Jul 03 14:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Cisco Goes Even Further With Desktop #Linux http://ur1.ca/0j8pf http://ur1.ca/0j8pg http://ur1.ca/0j8ph http://ur1.ca/0j8pi | Jul 03 14:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Thinking about better mousetraps and the Maker Generation - http://bit.ly/aMdr71 a lovely weekend read #makers | Jul 03 14:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] drats: one of my favourite contemporary works (Dove's "Flight") has disappeared from Spotify: what's going on, o people of #spotify? | Jul 03 14:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Hyperlocal Twitter Feeds For Every London Postcode - http://bit.ly/aqGTdi a little *too* local, perhaps? #twitter #london | Jul 03 14:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] DNA tests to reveal ancestral villages - http://bit.ly/c2IR0G talking of local... #dna #ancestry | Jul 03 14:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Technology and the Rights of the Child - http://bit.ly/cPGfbZ rights, yes, but not monopoly rights: help them to *share* unconditionally | Jul 03 14:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Omidyar Network is giving lots of dosh to mySociety - http://bit.ly/aII2YR hooray #mysociety #Omidyar | Jul 03 14:53 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] spent some good time alone in panagal park http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panagal_Park after shopping in T-Nagar http://bit.ly/cgZrvL | Jul 03 14:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] All of Beijing to be covered in security cameras - http://bit.ly/bMi3sK London leads the way...unfortunately #surveillance #beijing | Jul 03 15:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Peru to expel British 'Tarzan agitator' Paul McAuley - http://bit.ly/csHkJg shame on the peruvian government #peru #oil #amazon | Jul 03 15:07 | |
| Techrights | Title: Peru to expel British 'Tarzan agitator' Paul McAuley | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 83.45 KB | Jul 03 15:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2010/07/wikileaks-iphone-incidents-show-that-us-needs-shield-law182.html | Jul 03 15:20 | |
| Techrights | Title: MediaShift . WikiLeaks, iPhone Incidents Show that U.S. Needs Shield Law | PBS .::. Size~: 48.8 KB | Jul 03 15:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks incident shows US needs stronger shield laws | PBS http://to.pbs.org/avrvBB | Jul 03 15:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Pearce “Inquiry”- http://bit.ly/bAK4f7 "a direct subversion of the spirit of openness": not what's needed... #cimatechange | Jul 03 15:22 | |
| Techrights | Title: MediaShift . WikiLeaks, iPhone Incidents Show that U.S. Needs Shield Law | PBS .::. Size~: 48.8 KB | Jul 03 15:22 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open source software in Malaysia - http://bit.ly/aR9KT8 some good stuff happening #malaysia #opensource | Jul 03 15:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] BBC’s Panorama falls into ‘balance as baloney’ trap in climate show, “What’s up with the weather?” - http://bit.ly/9yIsoD BBC ever worse | Jul 03 15:28 | |
| Techrights | Title: BBCs Panorama falls into balance as baloney trap in half hour climate show, Whats up with the weather? « Climate Progress .::. Size~: 88.63 KB | Jul 03 15:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Nearly at work.... :( | Jul 03 15:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Lawyer Shows Example of Proprietary Licensing Gone Very Wrong http://brendanscott.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/backup-copy/ | Jul 03 15:44 | |
| Techrights | Title: Backup Copy (Bad Eula, Bad Eula! Down! Down!) « Brendan Scotts Weblog .::. Size~: 29.37 KB | Jul 03 15:44 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Call for Binning the Digital Economy Act http://ur1.ca/0j9fj http://ur1.ca/0j9fk #deact #debill | Jul 03 15:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA an Attempt to Change Patent Law, Suppress Developing Nations http://ur1.ca/0hrjm http://ur1.ca/0gllb | Jul 03 15:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] Berliner Dom vuvuzela angel smiling again on Germany #worldcup #GER http://flic.kr/p/8dK9Ch | Jul 03 15:50 | |
| Techrights | Title: A Sign from Heaven? (Angel with Vuvuzela) on Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 57.18 KB | Jul 03 15:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GIMP 2.7.1 is Released, First Look at It http://ur1.ca/0j9hd http://ur1.ca/0j9he | Jul 03 15:58 | |
| Techrights | Title: Meet the GIMP » Blog Archive » GIMP 2.7.1 released .::. Size~: 38.29 KB | Jul 03 15:58 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Multi-Million-Dollar Funding Goes to Company Which Claims to be "Open-Source" http://ur1.ca/0j9ht http://ur1.ca/0j9hu http://ur1.ca/0j9hv | Jul 03 15:59 | |
| Techrights | Title: Open-source content management firm Nuxeo lands $3.3M - Mass High Tech Business News .::. Size~: 33.25 KB | Jul 03 15:59 |
| Techrights | Title: Open Source ECM Nuxeo Gets US$ 3.3 Funding Influx .::. Size~: 59.13 KB | Jul 03 15:59 |
| Techrights | Title: Venture Capital Continues To Pour Dollars In To Commercial Open Source | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 81.07 KB | Jul 03 15:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Web Video at Risk From Patents, #Flash http://ur1.ca/0j9i8 http://ur1.ca/0j9i9 #adobetrash | Jul 03 16:01 | |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube Keeps The Web Locked To Adobe Flash | Muktware .::. Size~: 20.03 KB | Jul 03 16:01 |
| Techrights | Title: Open Video on the Web: Where Are We Now? | FOSSwire .::. Size~: 20.48 KB | Jul 03 16:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Simon Phipps' Attack on 'Open' Core Spurs Bgi Debate http://ur1.ca/0j9iq http://ur1.ca/0j9ir http://ur1.ca/0j9is | Jul 03 16:03 | |
| Techrights | Title: 451 CAOS Theory » What lies beyond the open core debate? .::. Size~: 45.4 KB | Jul 03 16:03 |
| Techrights | Title: Open Source Needs To Have An Unfair Advantage To Succeed - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 78.96 KB | Jul 03 16:03 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle #OpenOffice .org (OOOO) Gives Live to Linux/UNIX http://ur1.ca/0j9jc http://ur1.ca/0j9je http://ur1.ca/0j9jf http://ur1.ca/0j9jg | Jul 03 16:05 | |
| Techrights | Title: OpenOffice goes GStreamer on Linux and Unix - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.52 KB | Jul 03 16:05 |
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| Techrights | Title: New: OOo-DEV 3.x Developer Snapshot (build DEV300m84) available - GullFOSS .::. Size~: 54.46 KB | Jul 03 16:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ouch. Many typos today. s/live/love/ ; s/Bgi/Big/ | Jul 03 16:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle Too Slow With #OpenSolaris ; #VirtualBox 3.2.6 is Out http://ur1.ca/0j9k2 http://ur1.ca/0j9k3 http://ur1.ca/0j9k4 | Jul 03 16:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: [Phoronix] Well, It Looks Like Oracle Fails At OpenSolaris In 1H .::. Size~: 17.18 KB | Jul 03 16:08 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenAccess /Content Moves Lead to Boycotts http://ur1.ca/0j9n0 http://ur1.ca/0j9n1 http://ur1.ca/0j9n2 http://ur1.ca/0j9n3 | Jul 03 16:21 | |
| Techrights | Title: Peter Suber, SPARC Open Access Newsletter, 7/2/10 .::. Size~: 109.49 KB | Jul 03 16:21 |
| Techrights | Title: GNU social and Libre.fm to use OpenHatch - FooCorp's Internet Website .::. Size~: 8.32 KB | Jul 03 16:21 |
| Techrights | Title: The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics: Dramatic Growth of Open Access: June 30, 2010 (brief version) .::. Size~: 24.26 KB | Jul 03 16:21 |
| Techrights | Title: Unpacking Open Source Government | NewAmerica.net .::. Size~: 43.88 KB | Jul 03 16:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenData Defined, Inspires Many http://ur1.ca/0j9o6 http://ur1.ca/0j9o7 http://ur1.ca/0j9o8 http://ur1.ca/0j9o9 | Jul 03 16:25 | |
| Techrights | Title: Open Data Definition at OSCON | Open Source Initiative .::. Size~: 6.66 KB | Jul 03 16:25 |
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| Techrights | Title: European Officials Embrace Open Data Policy for GMES Satellites | SpaceNews.com .::. Size~: 31.54 KB | Jul 03 16:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 4 More Examples of "Open Data" in Action http://ur1.ca/0j9oc http://ur1.ca/0j9on http://ur1.ca/0hegc http://ur1.ca/0j9oo | Jul 03 16:26 | |
| Techrights | Title: Valley residents find conflict, obstacles in Gulf of Mexico | mydesert.com | The Desert Sun .::. Size~: 55.64 KB | Jul 03 16:26 |
| Techrights | Title: Businesses unwilling to share data, but keen on government doing it | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 86.46 KB | Jul 03 16:26 |
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| Techrights | Title: 'Google will be one node on a vast social web' | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 75.02 KB | Jul 03 16:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Hundreds of Thousands of #IBM Employees to Use #Firefox http://ur1.ca/0j9r2 http://ur1.ca/0j9r3 http://ur1.ca/0hsmc http://ur1.ca/0j9r4 | Jul 03 16:34 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Saying it out loud: IBM is moving to Firefox as its default browser | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 60.14 KB | Jul 03 16:34 |
| Techrights | Title: Mozilla submits browserless Firefox to Jobsian app police • The Register .::. Size~: 30.69 KB | Jul 03 16:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Firefox 4 Makes Early Appearance, Beta http://ur1.ca/0j9rw http://ur1.ca/0j9rx http://ur1.ca/0j9ry | Jul 03 16:36 | |
| Techrights | Title: Mozilla Labs » Test Pilot » Blog Archive » Meet Test Pilot in Firefox 4 Beta .::. Size~: 29.81 KB | Jul 03 16:36 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mozilla Addons Downloaded Over 2,000,000,000 Times http://ur1.ca/0j9sa http://ur1.ca/0j9sc http://ur1.ca/0j9sd http://ur1.ca/0j9se | Jul 03 16:38 | |
| Techrights | Title: Mozilla: 2 billion Firefox add-ons downloaded .::. Size~: 25.71 KB | Jul 03 16:38 |
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| Techrights | Title: zarro boogs found » Blog Archive » Sync 1.4 and the status bar .::. Size~: 11.68 KB | Jul 03 16:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Firefox Research Shows User Interaction Patterns http://ur1.ca/0j9sv http://ur1.ca/0j9sx http://ur1.ca/0j9sy http://ur1.ca/0j9sz | Jul 03 16:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] [NL] Leuk, Webwereld nu ook op twitter: https://twitter.com/Webwereld | Jul 03 16:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #FreeSoftware Supporter Newsletter, #GNU HURD Update, #FSF Site Design http://ur1.ca/0huuf http://ur1.ca/0j9xs | Jul 03 16:51 | |
| Techrights | Title: [FSF] Free Software Supporter -- Issue 27, June 2010 .::. Size~: 20.48 KB | Jul 03 16:51 |
| Techrights | Title: GNU HURD - Altered visions and lost promise - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.85 KB | Jul 03 16:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] [NL] Cool 8-) GNU Hackers Meeting 23-25 juli a.s. in den Haag http://tinyurl.com/3yu5337 | Jul 03 17:49 | |
| Techrights | Title: GNU Hackers Meeting in the Hague 2010 .::. Size~: 18.53 KB | Jul 03 17:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Question: can I use Google addsence or Ad Bard and donate the money directly to !fsf ? | Jul 03 17:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Question: can I use Google addsence or Ad Bard and donate the money directly to #fsf ? | Jul 03 17:59 | |
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| MadRobot | Hi all. | Jul 03 18:02 |
| MadRobot | Hey folks, did you hear about MS's so-claimed "New invention" that's called "InstaLoad"? | Jul 03 18:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Today Ben (Drums), Jim (Guitar) are jamming today. Can't wait to crank it. :-) #severedfifth | Jul 03 18:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @RobKielty: I am writing an #android fan app for the band Severed Fifth, who are fine purveyors of free metal #severedfifth | Jul 03 18:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] #listening to "Destination" by Crazy Z Projects http://tinyurl.com/386s6kl #electronica #club | Jul 03 18:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] !listening to "Destination" by Crazy Z Projects http://tinyurl.com/386s6kl !electronica !club | Jul 03 18:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Consulting Becomes Valued Area, Cost Savings When #UNIX Comes to Play http://ur1.ca/0jaw4 http://ur1.ca/0jaw7 | Jul 03 18:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell Says #GNU #Linux Offers Better #Security Than #Windows (Again) http://ur1.ca/0jaw5 http://ur1.ca/0jaw6 http://ur1.ca/0jaw8 | Jul 03 18:43 | |
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| schestowitz | "Dell is a pimp, recommending whichever whore for attention who is in at the moment. They'll change again." http://identi.ca/conversation/39236669#notice-39487475 | Jul 03 19:07 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux in Perspective: Why the Desktop Environment May Count More http://ur1.ca/0jb17 http://ur1.ca/0jb18 | Jul 03 19:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 'Appliances' With #GNU #Linux Courtesy of #HP http://ur1.ca/0jb16 http://ur1.ca/0jb19 | Jul 03 19:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks vs. Libel Law professor at EU Parliament http://bit.ly/93CKoS | Jul 03 19:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody ah, I see... so the BBC takes the News Corp. 'equal time' approach. Can't wait for restoring … http://identi.ca/notice/39491275 | Jul 03 19:19 | |
| Techrights | Title: Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 03-Jul-10 18:15:08 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.46 KB | Jul 03 19:19 |
| schestowitz | [18:02] <MadRobot> Hey folks, did you hear about MS's so-claimed "New invention" that's called "InstaLoad"? | Jul 03 19:20 |
| schestowitz | InstaLoadofBS | Jul 03 19:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Is calling torture 'torture' political correctness? - http://bit.ly/9TYVF2 NYT lost so much credibility on this one #torture #nyt | Jul 03 19:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody re "good point: let's start a campaign now..." > how would one approach this? They give the illusion of two sides (bogus debate) | Jul 03 19:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody what I'm trying to say is, by giving them both podium, they grant legitimacy to the idea of lack of consent amongst *experts* | Jul 03 19:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Call for Papers for 4th MyGOSSCON now open - http://bit.ly/dCvuRh if you're in the area (via @jacobt_jr) #malaysia | Jul 03 19:26 | |
| schestowitz | There is disagreement over cause and severity, but only the imposters (Monckton et al) lend hand to the idea of civil war among climatologists | Jul 03 19:27 |
| squarepeg | Climate change denial is asinine | Jul 03 19:27 |
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| squarepeg | I like to ask people to visualize all the emissions from every single combustion engine and smoke stack as if they were combined into a single volcano. | Jul 03 19:29 |
| squarepeg | It would look like Mordor. | Jul 03 19:29 |
| yuhong | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/07/masterpiece-robotron-2084.ars | Jul 03 19:29 |
| schestowitz | It's a new thing | Jul 03 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | Industrial revolution | Jul 03 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Leading to population growth and increased emission from each | Jul 03 19:29 |
| yuhong | An Ars Technica article about Robotron 2084, the name of one of our trolls. | Jul 03 19:29 |
| yuhong | Funny huh? | Jul 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: it's a name of a troll who was in techrights | Jul 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | He stopped posting | Jul 03 19:30 |
| yuhong | Yes, that is why I mention it. | Jul 03 19:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] From #MacOS / #Windows to #GNU #Linux : Migration Story http://ur1.ca/0goa1 http://ur1.ca/0jba9 | Jul 03 19:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Primer to #Google 's #GNU #Linux Distribution http://ur1.ca/0jbaa http://ur1.ca/0jbac | Jul 03 19:30 | |
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| schestowitz | He went by many names | Jul 03 19:30 |
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| yuhong | I though it would be funny. | Jul 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Including distro names, It hink | Jul 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | *I think | Jul 03 19:30 |
| yuhong | Yea. | Jul 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | He trolls some other Linux bloggers | Jul 03 19:31 |
| schestowitz | And other forums, always anti-Linux | Jul 03 19:31 |
| yuhong | Yes, I know. | Jul 03 19:31 |
| yuhong | I though it would be funny to mention what it actually is besides being a troll. | Jul 03 19:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody re "I'm agreeing with you: the very framing is biased" > but what to do to counter? It's not our field. Monckton et al win. | Jul 03 19:32 | |
| yuhong | The real news however: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/07/a-post-mortem-of-kins-tragic-demise.ars | Jul 03 19:33 |
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| yuhong | And found this on Slashdot: | Jul 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | by Peter Bright | Jul 03 19:34 |
| yuhong | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/07/03/1651208/Many-Popular-Windows-Apps-Ignore-Security-Options | Jul 03 19:34 |
| Techrights | Title: Slashdot Developers Story | Many Popular Windows Apps Ignore Security Options .::. Size~: 82.21 KB | Jul 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | He's a Microsoft booster | Jul 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | So I'm not too interested | Jul 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | His and Emil | Jul 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | *Him | Jul 03 19:35 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz: InstaLoadofBS | Jul 03 19:36 |
| MadRobot | Nice one. :) | Jul 03 19:36 |
| yuhong | Reading it, it sounds very interesting though. | Jul 03 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft joins the world of vibrators | Jul 03 19:36 |
| schestowitz | That's where it can still screw people | Jul 03 19:36 |
| yuhong | Even he admits the "Microsoft's mobile OS mess". | Jul 03 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | yuhong: I was in contact with a friend of J Allard | Jul 03 19:37 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't know why J left | Jul 03 19:37 |
| yuhong | Ok. | Jul 03 19:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Core Debate: Avoiding the Law of Unintended Consequences - http://bit.ly/ajNcLV more thoughts on a perennial favourite #opensource | Jul 03 19:38 | |
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| yuhong | And to make it clear, I was just asking the article about how Vista 7 is fundamentally insecure removed from the list. | Jul 03 19:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Richard Stallman Political Notes page has been down for about 3 days now. | Jul 03 19:39 | |
| yuhong | I know there was more articles you cited, and pending a rebuttal, I was not asking the list be completely removed. | Jul 03 19:39 |
| yuhong | I mean, the article that cited another article that used a boot-time rootkit. Remember? | Jul 03 19:40 |
| yuhong | XP to Vista is a major change, Vista to 7 is minor by comparison. | Jul 03 19:42 |
| yuhong | Not quite a service pack, but minor by comparison, just to make it clear. | Jul 03 19:42 |
| yuhong | I have posted this on Ars: | Jul 03 19:43 |
| yuhong | http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=20578122#p20578122 | Jul 03 19:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/KENzf/ | Jul 03 19:43 |
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| yuhong | 7 fixes a lot of problems of Vista. | Jul 03 19:44 |
| yuhong | But I am fine with Vista and not planning to upgrade. | Jul 03 19:45 |
| yuhong | Or downgrade. | Jul 03 19:45 |
| yuhong | On PR, I am reading Brian Solis. | Jul 03 19:46 |
| yuhong | On PR, I am reading Brian Solis's blog about PR 2.0. | Jul 03 19:46 |
| yuhong | I often participate in Ars's forums. | Jul 03 19:47 |
| yuhong | Just so you know. | Jul 03 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/ogePZ/ | Jul 03 19:48 |
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| cubezzz | wow, we're back to talking about Vista | Jul 03 19:54 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Jul 03 19:54 |
| yuhong | But not just about Vista. | Jul 03 19:54 |
| yuhong | I am switching over finally to #techrights. | Jul 03 19:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @pleia2: New blog post: "Android Froyo!" http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=3155 | Jul 03 19:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @mike_elgan: 5 ways iPhone users get ripped off http://bit.ly/bmQSFr | Jul 03 19:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @drewjensen: One of the first extensions available for #OpenOffice - it keeps getting better http://bit.ly/bINXnV | Jul 03 20:00 | |
| Techrights | Title: Creative Commons Open Office Plugin gets a new UI and supports for Public Domain tools - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 27.27 KB | Jul 03 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I just had a run in with the post office | Jul 03 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | they dropped more mail that doesn't go here in my mail box | Jul 03 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | the lady there told me to just leave it in the box and she'd have the courier come get it, but they just kept putting more in until the box was almost full | Jul 03 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | so I called to yell at them and she hung up on me | Jul 03 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | so I took the stack and drove over to the post office, and they had closed for the day and so I put it all in their outgoing mail slot | Jul 03 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | on my way out, the same woman that hung up on me chased me out into the parking lot and told me "that's not where it goes!!!!" blah blah blah | Jul 03 20:03 |
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| DaemonFC | I just said "Look lady, at least you're not paying me $15 an hour to do that, go fish!" | Jul 03 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 03 20:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #xorg -server 1.8.2 is Out, xorg-server 1.9 Out Soon http://ur1.ca/0jbna http://ur1.ca/0jbnb | Jul 03 20:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bliss With Free/Libre #Graphics Stack in #Linux is Approached ( #Nouveau ) http://ur1.ca/0jbn9 http://ur1.ca/0ils3 | Jul 03 20:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | the post office is hiring illiterates when 3 out of 10 people in this country are out of work | Jul 03 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | there should be some candidates in that pool who can read and write | Jul 03 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | maybe? | Jul 03 20:07 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, why don't you apply for the job then? | Jul 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | because I can tell the difference between 341 Whitestine St. and 421 Webster St. | Jul 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm overqualified | Jul 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | retards | Jul 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | gah! | Jul 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | hey cubezzz, I think the government is taking people out of the state hospitals and giving them jobs sorting the mail | Jul 03 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | I really do | Jul 03 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | oh, he's dyslexic too, wonderful, lets have him deliver the mail! | Jul 03 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | "It says here you were fired from standing on the street corner holding a sign for Little Caesars pizza, reason stated was gross incompetence" | Jul 03 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | let's make you the Postmaster General | Jul 03 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, The postal workers have a union, and they work for a company the government forbids other companies from competing with | Jul 03 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | they don't give a shit where your mail goes | Jul 03 20:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Users of #Microsoft Office 2010 Hate It, #OpenOffice .org is Loved, #Vista7 is a ‘Meh’ http://ur1.ca/0jbqv #odf #officesuite | Jul 03 20:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | why would they? | Jul 03 20:14 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/SZlyj/ | Jul 03 20:16 |
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| DaemonFC | The Department of Motor Vehicles has better customer service | Jul 03 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sorry, it's all my fault, clearly I didn't know I lived in Stalingrad | Jul 03 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be sure to fill out a change of address card notifying them of that | Jul 03 20:18 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Jul 03 20:18 |
| cubezzz | partition magic 5 works on ext2 partitions, good | Jul 03 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, I've done everything besides take out a billboard near my house saying "Hey jackass, put my mail in MY box!!!" | Jul 03 20:19 |
| cubezzz | why not rent one? | Jul 03 20:19 |
| cubezzz | if delivery is unreliable... | Jul 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | you mean a P.O. box? | Jul 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | let's pay them $150 a year to reward them for being morons who can't figure out their own address system | Jul 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 20:20 |
| cubezzz | yeah a P.O box | Jul 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, I can't think of any private sector business that would survive long if they acted like the post office does | Jul 03 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | not a single one | Jul 03 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | even Microsoft | Jul 03 20:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Opera (Proprietary) Released and Reviewed http://ur1.ca/0jbtx http://ur1.ca/0jbty http://ur1.ca/0jbu0 | Jul 03 20:23 | |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, The post office takes high school drop outs, pays them upwards of $15 an hour to walk around delivering mail, then starts a hiring freeze to save money, but then realizes that they can't deliver the mail with the hiring freeze in place | Jul 03 20:23 |
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| DaemonFC | so the obvious answer is to give the delivery people each 8 hours of overtime every week | Jul 03 20:23 |
| schestowitz | [20:03] <DaemonFC> I just said "Look lady, at least you're not paying me $15 an hour to do that, go fish!" | Jul 03 20:23 |
| schestowitz | What did you do *that* for? | Jul 03 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Cause I'm pissed and she's lucky I'm not Darth Vader | Jul 03 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 03 20:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Qualcomm Makes Free/Libre Drivers Available to #Linux http://ur1.ca/0jbtu http://ur1.ca/0jbtv | Jul 03 20:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4T7_XI7WM | Jul 03 20:25 |
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| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | "I find your lack of understanding ZIP+4, disturbing...." | Jul 03 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuK-aLSZtNo | Jul 03 20:28 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, Darth Vader is my hero | Jul 03 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | he doesn't take incompetence well | Jul 03 20:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] My Moto Droid went 36 hours on 1 charge recently. Much of that was in standby, but it did also get occasional heavy use. | Jul 03 20:32 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSm9DDxQv8E&NR=1 | Jul 03 20:32 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_AMRTVJ3nU&feature=related | Jul 03 20:37 |
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| DaemonFC | the lightsaber scene had me spit out my soda | Jul 03 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | "I'm gonna beat you with a crowbar until you go away" | Jul 03 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | "What the hell is that?" | Jul 03 20:37 |
| cubezzz | it's interesting that the Xerox Alto had a 606*808 tall monochrome bit-mapped video display in 1973 | Jul 03 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0901/management-lesson-management-lessons-toilet-paper-demotivational-poster-1232777538.jpg | Jul 03 20:44 |
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| cubezzz | they were so far ahead of everybody then | Jul 03 20:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ulteo Has New Release, 12 Lesser Known Distributions Introduced http://ur1.ca/0jc1o http://ur1.ca/0gpm7 | Jul 03 20:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the Future of #Mandriva Family http://ur1.ca/0jc1p http://ur1.ca/0e18e | Jul 03 20:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #oauth adds absolutely no security for an user of a non-web app but adds a lot of useless hassle for programmers. #twitter is run by idiots. | Jul 03 20:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] What U need in order to secure #oauth credentials is what U need to store login+password. Exactly the same. Access that and you're spoofable | Jul 03 20:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] And now that I have finally written an application that can use #oauth, I'm 100% sure of this. | Jul 03 20:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] A SIC foi comprada pela IURD para estar a passar o que parece uma lavagem cerebral? | Jul 03 20:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Next in line: write #oauth program called bestbrowser which launches firefox and silently deletes all your google data with googlecl creds. | Jul 03 21:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Feel secure now? #oauth | Jul 03 21:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Xandros is Virtually Dead, #SUSE is Very Quiet http://techrights.org/2010/07/03/xandros-post-msft-deal/ | Jul 03 21:03 | |
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| schestowitz | "Nobody talks about the fans though-lack of power management in free drivers makes machines noisy-boring feature but important" http://twitter.com/Codepope/status/17670837175 | Jul 03 21:05 |
| Techrights | Title: Twitter / Dj Walker-Morgan: @schestowitz Nobody talks ... .::. Size~: 11.45 KB | Jul 03 21:05 |
| schestowitz | interesting. I did not know that. | Jul 03 21:05 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/39493415 "we point out what's happening: we both have enough of a reach for that to be useful; word gets out, eventually the BBC stops" | Jul 03 21:06 |
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| schestowitz | I will do the little I can in Daily links | Jul 03 21:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody ok, will do the little I can | Jul 03 21:06 | |
| schestowitz | BBC is becoming more like FOX.... it's not just the MSBBC thing....... ("I'm agreeing with you: the very framing is biased" http://identi.ca/notice/39492212 ) | Jul 03 21:07 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Steve-Jobs-iPhone-4-Emails-Are-Fake-Says-Apple-680502/ | Jul 03 21:09 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Apple is now trying to call what Steve Jobs said a "fake" | Jul 03 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | WHich one? | Jul 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Oh, nm | Jul 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | I see you have a URL | Jul 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | fake Steve Jobs? Must be Dan the troll | Jul 03 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | If it's not the iphone screwing up, it's AT&T's network | Jul 03 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | both are equally likely | Jul 03 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's a bad phone tied to an even worse network | Jul 03 21:11 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Watched "Antitrust" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218817/ ~ Human knowledge belongs to the world #opensource #yahooooo :-) | Jul 03 21:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Hey, #oauth app writers: you better secure your creds with strong ciphers and ask user for password on startup. If you don't... hmms... | Jul 03 21:19 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The bank sent me checks and no debit card | Jul 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | Why do checks exist? | Jul 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | Who uses them? | Jul 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | Are they really just for old people who think debit cards are the mark of the beast, so they can hold up the line at Walmart so it can be instantly debited anyway? | Jul 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | "They're just like a debit card except half the places you go to won't take them, they have no built-in fraud protection, and they're really easy to lose!" | Jul 03 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | "Here, have 200 of them!" | Jul 03 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh, and they can take a week to post, so have fun trying not to overdraw your account!" | Jul 03 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Here, we'll send them out through the US post office so that they can wind up in anyone's mail box! Kthxbai! | Jul 03 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | I've had my original checkbook from 2001 for 9 years now and have written two checks | Jul 03 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | the things are useless and fraud waiting to happen | Jul 03 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, not having to go get a money order for 70 cents every 4.5 years is nice, but really, 200 checks? | Jul 03 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, you hear about people that are stupid getting ripped off by obvious card skimmers now and again, but Visa is still obligated to pay you back for that. | Jul 03 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, you'd think that two card scanners on the same gas pump is a little odd, right? | Jul 03 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | the duct tape holding the second one on apparently doesn't give the damned thing away | Jul 03 21:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] (bizarre) Russian agents and WIKILEAKS prefer the ASUS eee 1005HA-P netbook: http://bit.ly/dgbldv | Jul 03 21:31 | |
| DaemonFC | or sometimes they're a little more subtle, like a foreign object being drilled into the vending machine after the fact, that's not a dead giveaway | Jul 03 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard about hundreds of people getting ripped off by card skimmers and the only article specifying something that might have fooled me was a fake ATM machine on the Vegas strip | Jul 03 21:34 |
| schestowitz | Agghgh!!!!!!1 | Jul 03 21:35 |
| schestowitz | I hate lynx SO MCUH!!!!! | Jul 03 21:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Greenwald on NYT torture turnaround http://bit.ly/aRGePW | Jul 03 21:35 | |
| Techrights | Title: Bill Keller's self-defense on "torture" - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 74.42 KB | Jul 03 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Never gonna use this POS again | Jul 03 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've noticed that people are not generally terribly bright and that's the only reason why 99% or more of fraud even works | Jul 03 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | the best scam victim is a person who isn't very intelligent and looking to do something dishonest | Jul 03 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | there's a lot of those | Jul 03 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | "Didn't you ask HOW that guy could PROMISE a 500% return on investment!?" | Jul 03 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Victim: "Uh, duh.... No..." | Jul 03 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think a single Bernard Madoff victim deserves to get their money back | Jul 03 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | I really don't | Jul 03 21:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora #Linux 14 Timing and Engagement With the Community Debated http://ur1.ca/0jcga http://ur1.ca/0jcgb | Jul 03 21:43 | |
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| schestowitz | Well, they're all greedy | Jul 03 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Stupid Wall Street | Jul 03 21:46 |
| schestowitz | The problem occurs if the public is asked to bail them out | Jul 03 21:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Has #RHEL 6 Beta 2 http://ur1.ca/0jchb http://ur1.ca/0jchc http://ur1.ca/0jchd http://ur1.ca/0jche http://ur1.ca/0jchf | Jul 03 21:46 | |
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| schestowitz | Rather than let them sink | Jul 03 21:46 |
| Techrights | Title: Red Hat News | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta 2 Now Available .::. Size~: 34.17 KB | Jul 03 21:46 |
| Techrights | Title: Pace of IT industry is amazing: Jim Whitehurst - India Business - Business - The Times of India .::. Size~: 63.48 KB | Jul 03 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: is your granny in west Florida? | Jul 03 21:49 |
| schestowitz | They get BP oikl | Jul 03 21:49 |
| schestowitz | FOR FREE!! | Jul 03 21:50 |
| schestowitz | You pick a bucket and collect it toll free at the beach. Unlimited supplies. | Jul 03 21:50 |
| *sebsebseb (~3seb@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #boycottnovell | Jul 03 21:53 | |
| sebsebseb | Hi | Jul 03 21:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] For those who haven't followed this news, Florida is now getting BP oil for free. It's available at the beach... first come, first served | Jul 03 21:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] To help in these recessionary times, Big Polluter (BP) will pay for Independence Day fireworks and set the sea on fire for display. #bpcares | Jul 03 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | hi, sebsebseb | Jul 03 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Jul 03 22:00 |
| *MadRobot has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jul 03 22:06 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Sell oil on ebay for cheap | Jul 03 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | undercut the companies out there drilling for it | Jul 03 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 22:07 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: Ubuntu has been quite over the past week | Jul 03 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Low news volume | Jul 03 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is continuing to dumb things down | Jul 03 22:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: false branding? | Jul 03 22:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah well most changes for 10.10 should be there in alpha 3 | Jul 03 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | not surprising, but they manage to cut out at least 3-4 useful things every release | Jul 03 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: indeed | Jul 03 22:08 |
| schestowitz | But seriously, I bet someone could filter that out, then refine it at home | Jul 03 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | on the assumption that morons will hurt themselves | Jul 03 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: they are even planning on replacing the Gnome clock | Jul 03 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Then sell it in barrels of low-quality oil | Jul 03 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | they treat advanced utilities like they're IED's laying around | Jul 03 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | with their own clock indicator applet thingey, and then some guys been making a weather applet as well | Jul 03 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Clean seas one barrel at a tim | Jul 03 22:08 |
| schestowitz | sand in one's fuel tank | Jul 03 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | "Get rid of aptitude, it's confusing!" | Jul 03 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | gee, I hope if you ever get stuck on a terminal and need to grab a package, you know exactly what you're looking for | Jul 03 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | or that you need to apt-get install aptitude! | Jul 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Getting rid of vi | Jul 03 22:09 |
| MinceR | iirc aptitude is not confusing, merely broken | Jul 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Hardcore users put Ubuntu where it is | Jul 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | In the early days | Jul 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | And Canonical later walked away from them | Jul 03 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they're reducing their distro to satisfy the lowest common denominators | Jul 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | It was more technical when I used 4.10 at work | Jul 03 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | they make the things in Windows look advanced | Jul 03 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | like the Group Policy Editor | Jul 03 22:10 |
| schestowitz | From "Debian for human beings" to "Human beings for dumbness" :-) | Jul 03 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | in Ubuntu, they figure you're too stupid to even use a package manager | Jul 03 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | so they get rid of it | Jul 03 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | even though it's an integral part of a Debian system | Jul 03 22:10 |
| MinceR | human beings tend to be dumb | Jul 03 22:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian Opens up for Variants, A Look at #Kanotix 2010, and Debian Democracy http://ur1.ca/0jcng http://ur1.ca/0jcnh http://ur1.ca/0jcni | Jul 03 22:10 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: Not really | Jul 03 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, they really are | Jul 03 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Name the stupidest human and find a dumber animal | Jul 03 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | credit card skimmer victims vote Ubuntu #1 | Jul 03 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 03 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Except dolphins and whales | Jul 03 22:11 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: can't | Jul 03 22:11 |
| MinceR | animals that dumb don't survive | Jul 03 22:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Debian #GNU #Linux 5.0 Release, Call for Artwork http://ur1.ca/0e1jv http://ur1.ca/0jcnf | Jul 03 22:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm sure there's some kind of a crossover between Ubuntu users and people who write checks | Jul 03 22:11 |
| schestowitz | That Grigory who won $1m and rejected it looks like a caveman | Jul 03 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | people tell stories of getting their 90 year old grandmother using Ubuntu | Jul 03 22:12 |
| schestowitz | He said he doesn't want the prize to become like some animal in a zoo | Jul 03 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | that's saying something if she can't be taught to slide a card and punch in a PIN | Jul 03 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | they need to do a social experiment, put Ubuntu box sets in Walmart and see how many people pay for it, and out of that, how many used a paper check | Jul 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: 90 year old grandmothers tell stories of getting their people using Ubuntu | Jul 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | The grandmabuntu squad | Jul 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Don't mess wiff em | Jul 03 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | This page censored by Dansguardian, sponsored by PENIS PENIS PENIS | Jul 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | They kill the Internet trolls with broomsticks | Jul 03 22:14 |
| *DaemonFC can't wait until they do text ads | Jul 03 22:14 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: that would actually spread ubuntu due to the "if it's gratis it can't be good" crowd | Jul 03 22:14 |
| schestowitz | "lory ♥ U (lalaloryx) is now following your tweets on Twitter. " | Jul 03 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Definitely a real person | Jul 03 22:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody BBC’s Panorama falls into ‘balance as baloney’ trap in climate show, “What’s up with the weather?” - http://bit.ly/9yIsoD | Jul 03 22:15 | |
| Techrights | Title: BBCs Panorama falls into balance as baloney trap in half hour climate show, Whats up with the weather? « Climate Progress .::. Size~: 89.15 KB | Jul 03 22:15 |
| schestowitz | If it was a bot, it would not have a real middle name like ♥ | Jul 03 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Put Ubuntu CDs in the Netzero CD holder at the checkouts | Jul 03 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | hehe' | Jul 03 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | That's how I got internet service for free back when I was a teenager :P | Jul 03 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | set the free ISP ad box to crash after getting you connected | Jul 03 22:17 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 03 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Netzero was the easiest, there was a "security tool" called dial guard or something that would intercept DUN requests from Windows | Jul 03 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | supposed to protect you from dialers | Jul 03 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | but I just set it up to sniff out my real login credentials from free ISP software | Jul 03 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | then some of the free ISPs got smart and decided to ping their software 5 minutes after you got connected | Jul 03 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | but you could connect with DUN, open up the ad software, and let it run long enough to reply | Jul 03 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | then kill it | Jul 03 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | those were the days | Jul 03 22:19 |
| MinceR | i never used free ISPs | Jul 03 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | I used them | Jul 03 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | while they were there | Jul 03 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | I had free internet for a few years cause of them | Jul 03 22:19 |
| MinceR | well, except for the POP3-only access of freemail.hu | Jul 03 22:19 |
| MinceR | (freemail.c3.hu back then) | Jul 03 22:20 |
| MinceR | (actually POP3 and SMTP) | Jul 03 22:20 |
| schestowitz | hulu.hu | Jul 03 22:20 |
| schestowitz | hulu.hu/ops | Jul 03 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I figured out how to get free internet before there were free ISPs though | Jul 03 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | I figured out how to keep the Juno email software to not hang up | Jul 03 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | and hijack the HTML renderer in their email client to browse with | Jul 03 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | of course I had to use IE | Jul 03 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | but oh well | Jul 03 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | it was free | Jul 03 22:21 |
| schestowitz | http://iraq.us | Jul 03 22:21 |
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| DaemonFC | before that I used a credit card number generator to get free AOL accounts | Jul 03 22:21 |
| schestowitz | New state | Jul 03 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | because they didn't try to verify it until 30 days later | Jul 03 22:21 |
| schestowitz | They have a huge munici... embassy... good for Updike and chums | Jul 03 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Send him to iraq.us | Jul 03 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Give him 2 months and he'll drive it to the ground | Jul 03 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | send Updike to be the provisional governor of Iraq | Jul 03 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | that could be interesting | Jul 03 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Was he a Steve Updike? | Jul 03 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | you thought the Iraqis had it bad when they were occupied by the US military which doubled as their government | Jul 03 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | but with Updike in charge, there could be mounds of trash in the streets and power outages all the time! | Jul 03 22:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc | Jul 03 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | Ballmer for Huntington Mayor | Jul 03 22:23 |
| schestowitz | He'll chase the rapists | Jul 03 22:23 |
| MinceR | saddam made the trains run on time? :> | Jul 03 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Steve Updike is worse than Saddam Hussein | Jul 03 22:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Maybe for the gas convoys | Jul 03 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | luckily, Updike is overruled frequently by the state of Indiana and the federal government | Jul 03 22:24 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Jul 03 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | so he's just a court jester pretending to be a dictator | Jul 03 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 03 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Indiana has a scary neighbour | Jul 03 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Detroit, Michigan | Jul 03 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | Detroit is about 250 miles from here | Jul 03 22:25 |
| schestowitz | It's like being next door to Pakistan of N.Korea | Jul 03 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise known as minimum safe distance | Jul 03 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jul 03 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Did you see the new Eminem video? | Jul 03 22:25 |
| schestowitz | I could only recognise him by his voice | Jul 03 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Didn't he get arrested for possession of concealed dildo? | Jul 03 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Welfare cases move to Huntington, Indiana from Michigan long enough to find out that our welfare system isn't as easy to exploit | Jul 03 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | then they leave | Jul 03 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | and go back to Michigan | Jul 03 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Many empty apartment | Jul 03 22:26 |
| schestowitz | With needles on the ground | Jul 03 22:26 |
| schestowitz | *ments | Jul 03 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | "What? The food stamp office VERIFIES your income AND you're expected to own a car!?" | Jul 03 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | "What the hell is this shit!?" | Jul 03 22:26 |
| schestowitz | 'Free' drugs | Jul 03 22:27 |
| *DaemonFC moves back to Michigan | Jul 03 22:27 | |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 03 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Jul 03 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Well, rent is expensive here too | Jul 03 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | "What? You people pay rent? Back in Michigan we just found condemned houses to live in" | Jul 03 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | "Free basic cable too!" | Jul 03 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Where I live it's base 107 quid a week | Jul 03 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Exc. taxes | Jul 03 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Mine is $110 a week, but the utilities are included | Jul 03 22:28 |
| schestowitz | That's cheap | Jul 03 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | and the landlord knocks $15 a week off for me taking care of the lawn | Jul 03 22:28 |
| schestowitz | And tax? | Jul 03 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | what about tax? | Jul 03 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | I evade where possible and fudge when it's inescapable | Jul 03 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Ouch | Jul 03 22:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] been having great fun with Friend or Follow - http://bit.ly/96mXtW recommended if you want to prune the no. of people you follow #twitter | Jul 03 22:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Buy things off the Internet from neighboring states | Jul 03 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Move to those hotels in Manhattan where it's $30k a night | Jul 03 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | then INDOR can't see what you've avoided sales tax on | Jul 03 22:29 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/xiY8P/ | Jul 03 22:30 |
| Techrights | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Benjamin Wallace: Does happiness have a price tag? .::. Size~: 5.07 KB | Jul 03 22:30 |
| schestowitz | >OGG, watch it | Jul 03 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The sales tax I avoid each month probably offsets most of my internet fee | Jul 03 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | I try not to buy anything in an actual store if I can avoid it | Jul 03 22:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz too modest.... | Jul 03 22:31 | |
| DaemonFC | waiting a few days for it to arrive is better than paying 7% sales tax | Jul 03 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | plus you usually get a better price because internet sites have to compete with many other internet sites | Jul 03 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | here it's Walmart, Kmart, JC Penney, and Sears | Jul 03 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | the internet is basically this mythical "free market" that the local Politburo speaks highly of | Jul 03 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR should get a kick out of that | Jul 03 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | no, I'll rephrase that | Jul 03 22:34 |
| MinceR | o_O | Jul 03 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | the internet is basically this mythical "free market" that the local Politburo speaks highly of as they impose taxes, fees, fines, excises, levies, penalties, sanctions, and paperwork | Jul 03 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeehaw | Jul 03 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | they have the system so messed up with patchwork tax laws enacted by local wanna-be dictators that it's cheaper to get a television set picked from a warehouse 3,000 miles away and shipped to me, personally, through UPS than it is to just drive to Walmart and buy a TV set | Jul 03 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | if that's not some Soviet Union shit, I don't know what is | Jul 03 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's effectively turning the internet into a black market to evade the Indiana authoritahs | Jul 03 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | I tried explaining this concept, very slowly, to our elected state representative, who failed to understand the concept that he doesn't control inter-state commerce | Jul 03 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | and that his tax laws end at the borders of Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and Illinois | Jul 03 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | and 3 miles out into Lake Michigan if you count that | Jul 03 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Lake Michigan is considered an international border by the feds | Jul 03 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | because the states only control things up to 3 miles off their shore | Jul 03 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, This technically gives the US Border Patrol jurisdiction in the town I live in | Jul 03 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | which is actually almost 300 miles from Canada if you get to Ontario via land routes | Jul 03 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think I had it figured out once that nearly half of Indiana is within Border Patrol jurisdiction due solely to Lake Michigan | Jul 03 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | which means the Border Patrol could stop and search you in Marion, Indiana without violating any jurisdictional boundaries | Jul 03 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | and that also covers about 1/3rd of the land area of the United States | Jul 03 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | but Indiana is uniquely affected due to Lake Michigan | Jul 03 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | they could decide they have authority within 100 miles in any direction of where they determine the shore begins | Jul 03 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Practically, they don't though because the illegal Canadian immigration via swimming lake Michigan is actually rather low | Jul 03 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 03 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | You never watch an episode of Border Wars where a US border patrol helicopter spots hundreds of Canadians fleeing the merciless oppression and tyranny of Canada halfway into swimming the length of the frigid waters of Lake Michigan (or perhaps on an inflatable duck) | Jul 03 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | "The guide is abandoning them, he's paddling his duck back to Canada!" | Jul 03 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | "Ahh, let him go, the rest are HELPLESS now!" | Jul 03 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | muahahaha!!! | Jul 03 22:48 |
| *DaemonFC gets on the bullhorn "Vous êtes intrusion dans le territoire des États-Unis d'Amérique, se détourner maintenant ou nous serons contraints de vous donner la nourriture et des soins médicaux gratuits." | Jul 03 22:49 | |
| DaemonFC | that'll show them | Jul 03 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You think I'd have any luck running for office? | Jul 03 23:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Variants of #Ubuntu : Satanic Edition, #LinuxMint http://ur1.ca/0jd4n http://ur1.ca/0jd4o http://ur1.ca/0jd4p | Jul 03 23:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Graphics /Pictures in #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux , Wallpapers, Design Appeal http://ur1.ca/0jd4q http://ur1.ca/0g5os http://ur1.ca/0jd4r | Jul 03 23:01 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Daily 5: Five Wallpaper picks vying to make it into Ubuntu 10.10 | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 65.31 KB | Jul 03 23:01 |
| Techrights | Title: Help wanted: Testing programs that use the notification area « Canonical Design .::. Size~: 14.59 KB | Jul 03 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Ubuntu sent aq DMCA take down notice to Ubuntu Satanic Edition | Jul 03 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | the Christian Edition got a free pass because Canonical's lawyers didn't want to draw the fiery wrath of God | Jul 03 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 03 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Kevin Carmony is always good for a laugh | Jul 03 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | everything he's ever been affiliated with is dead or dying | Jul 03 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Who the hell pads their resume with dead products that nobody liked? | Jul 03 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | "Yeah, I was involved in that!" | Jul 03 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | "I can wreck your company too, just give me a chance!" | Jul 03 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | hell, even stuff he recommends dies | Jul 03 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | "ZOMG, Lala is awesome!" | Jul 03 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | if Kevin Carmony mentions something you're invested in on his blog, get out fast | Jul 03 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | though apparently the future of PC gaming is Farmville | Jul 03 23:08 |
| *DaemonFC frags MinceR with a turnip | Jul 03 23:08 | |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 03 23:08 |
| *MinceR is immune to turnips | Jul 03 23:08 | |
| *DaemonFC pulls out his radish chaingun | Jul 03 23:09 | |
| MinceR | i prefer to think that the future of pc gaming is nexuiz/xonotic | Jul 03 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Microsoft brags about having gaming "Partners" that release bad console ports onto Windows with the controls all messed up, DRM that malfunctions, and superfluous dependencies on things like Games for Windows Live, which serve no purpose other than to crash your game at random | Jul 03 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | there's no new or interesting gaming ideas coming from any of their Games for Windows partners | Jul 03 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | none | Jul 03 23:10 |
| MinceR | i don't really give two fucks about "games for winblows live" | Jul 03 23:11 |
| MinceR | or whatever it's called | Jul 03 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Basically, the first thing Fallout 3 GOTY does on Windows 7 is crash, due to Games For Windows Live not being compatible | Jul 03 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | so before you can even play the game, you have to find an updated GFWL redist, and install it | Jul 03 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | and the only thing it lets you do is chat with people playing other games on their XBOX 360 | Jul 03 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 03 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | but the game can't run without it | Jul 03 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's defective | Jul 03 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | and it adds nothing to the game | Jul 03 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's totally a gratuitous pile of crap, they were obviously paid to foist it on you, and it detracts from the value of the game you are trying to play | Jul 03 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | I think Microsoft pays them to throw it in with titles it doesn't even add anything to just to make a lot of games that are more of a pain in the ass to load under Wine | Jul 03 23:15 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/39217199#notice-39513399 "@schestowitz I'm interested that I'm only hearing replies from people with vested interests in open core." | Jul 03 23:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.3 KB | Jul 03 23:17 |
| schestowitz | [23:02] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Ubuntu sent aq DMCA take down notice to Ubuntu Satanic Edition | Jul 03 23:18 |
| schestowitz | Ah, finally | Jul 03 23:18 |
| schestowitz | I told jono about it some months ago | Jul 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | And he acted all cool | Jul 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | But... | Jul 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | They did this before | Jul 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | And held back | Jul 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Are they doing it again? | Jul 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Surely not to CE | Jul 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Religions have magic moral shield | Jul 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Don't know if ME- | Jul 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Don't know if ME->Sabily was due to Canonical pressure | Jul 03 23:19 |
| cubezzz | I don't think Ubuntu Satinic Edition counts :) | Jul 03 23:19 |
| cubezzz | Satanic even | Jul 03 23:20 |
| schestowitz | "@webmink it's good that FLOSS Weekly challenged Mark/Zenoss. "let's say it's a rough time and we need to move to 'community edition'...."" | Jul 03 23:25 |
| schestowitz | OSI is cleaning up | Jul 03 23:25 |
| schestowitz | That's good | Jul 03 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Maybe too little, too late | Jul 03 23:26 |
| MinceR | what was wrong with Satanic Edition? was it not brown enough? | Jul 03 23:26 |
| MinceR | or it offended someone's holier-than-thou christian sensibilities? :> | Jul 03 23:27 |
| schestowitz | http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/07/02/ubuntu-satanic-edition-10-04-lucifers-legion/ | Jul 03 23:28 |
| Techrights | Title: Ubuntu Satanic Edition 10.04 (Lucifer's Legion) | Desktop Linux Reviews .::. Size~: 107.67 KB | Jul 03 23:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "that's just Satan talking" | Jul 03 23:28 |
| schestowitz | [The defence from criticism] | Jul 03 23:28 |
| schestowitz | eq., "he's just a Microsoft hater" | Jul 03 23:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux -powered Bubba Two Receives Praise, Linux-powered #Kindle Evolves http://ur1.ca/0jdfi http://ur1.ca/0jdfj http://ur1.ca/0jdfm | Jul 03 23:36 | |
| Techrights | Title: Bubba Two WiFi review | Linux User .::. Size~: 32.29 KB | Jul 03 23:36 |
| Techrights | Title: Big-screen Kindle gains new screen technology - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 53.15 KB | Jul 03 23:36 |
| Techrights | Title: Freer Trade Agreement Between Taiwan and China at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.3 KB | Jul 03 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://christianubuntu.blogspot.com/ | Jul 03 23:41 |
| Techrights | Title: Ubuntu Christian Edition Facts .::. Size~: 144.3 KB | Jul 03 23:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Devices: LSI, Merimobiles, Sonos, #Pogoplug http://ur1.ca/0jdfh http://ur1.ca/0jdfk http://ur1.ca/0jdfl http://ur1.ca/0jdfo | Jul 03 23:43 | |
| Techrights | Title: Multicore PowerPC networking SoCs gain Linux support - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 54.97 KB | Jul 03 23:43 |
| Techrights | Title: Seven-inch Cortex-A8 tablet dual boots Android 2.1 and Windows CE - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.48 KB | Jul 03 23:43 |
| Techrights | Title: DeviceGuru » Review: Sonos streaming music players .::. Size~: 46.02 KB | Jul 03 23:43 |
| Techrights | Title: DeviceGuru » Pogoplug becomes printer server .::. Size~: 28.7 KB | Jul 03 23:43 |
| schestowitz | http://briancarper.net/blog/547/dell-sucks | Jul 03 23:52 |
| Techrights | Title: briancarper.net (λ) - Dell sucks .::. Size~: 12.78 KB | Jul 03 23:52 |
| MinceR | his troubles have only begun | Jul 03 23:56 |
| MinceR | he's getting a dell | Jul 03 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Heaven of Dell? | Jul 03 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2366056,00.asp | Jul 03 23:58 |
| Techrights | Title: Apple Dumps iPhone 4 Restocking Fee | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 70.7 KB | Jul 03 23:58 |
| schestowitz | /s/Restocking Fee/ / | Jul 03 23:59 |
| schestowitz | \0/ | Jul 03 23:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 03 23:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Symbian Guru Dumps Symbian for #Linux/Android, #Android 3.0 Rumours Float http://ur1.ca/0hu1n http://ur1.ca/0jdpk http://ur1.ca/0jdpm | Jul 03 23:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux is Gaining at Apple's Expense http://ur1.ca/0jdpn http://ur1.ca/0jdpo http://ur1.ca/0jdpp | Jul 03 23:59 | |
| Techrights | Title: Symbian-Guru.com Is Over | Symbian-Guru.com .::. Size~: 334.8 KB | Jul 03 23:59 |
| Techrights | Title: Gingerbread will split Android into two, rumors say - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.71 KB | Jul 03 23:59 |
| Techrights | Title: Android 3.0 Rumored for Q4 2010 - Linux Magazine Online .::. Size~: 29.33 KB | Jul 03 23:59 |
| Techrights | Title: AdMobs Final Mobile Metrics Report: Android Rising, But Apple Still Dominates Worldwide .::. Size~: 62.62 KB | Jul 03 23:59 |
| Techrights | Title: A Little Over A Year Later, Android Is Unstoppable .::. Size~: 25.37 KB | Jul 03 23:59 |
| Techrights | Title: The Educated New Village Boy » Why do I use an Android phone? .::. Size~: 42.09 KB | Jul 03 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | "Apple plans to release a software update in the coming weeks to address the formula it uses to actually determine signal strength." | Jul 03 23:59 |
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