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| schestowitz | mand? | Jul 28 00:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @rsandu Vulnerability in Windows Shell Could Allow Remote Code Execution http://is.gd/dMCd8 #microsoft #windows #security | Jul 28 00:00 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsoft Security Advisory (2286198): Vulnerability in Windows Shell Could Allow Remote Code Execution .::. Size~: 50.64 KB | Jul 28 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: KDE has that bouncy busy icon deal | Jul 28 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | very distracting and not always appropriate | Jul 28 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | I turned it off :P | Jul 28 00:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Dell 'returns' to #gnu #linux in a major way http://ur1.ca/0uwtq http://ur1.ca/0uwtr http://ur1.ca/0uwts | Jul 28 00:04 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Dell expands Ubuntu Linux desktop offerings - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 58.87 KB | Jul 28 00:04 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Dell Preparing Ubuntu 10.04 Linux Systems | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 56.48 KB | Jul 28 00:04 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Calm down! Dell is not throwing Ubuntu Linux out! | ITworld .::. Size~: 81.62 KB | Jul 28 00:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Chakra Phoix 0722 has just been made available. I love their themes so much. http://chakra-project.org/ | Jul 28 00:05 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Chakra Project - Welcome .::. Size~: 8.07 KB | Jul 28 00:05 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: where do I go if I need help with OpenOffice? | Jul 28 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: busy icon is goof | Jul 28 00:12 |
| schestowitz | not without Composite on | Jul 28 00:12 |
| schestowitz | /goof/good/ | Jul 28 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: personal help or business? | Jul 28 00:12 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: personal, relatively speaking | Jul 28 00:12 |
| schestowitz | How about the mailing lists for -users | Jul 28 00:13 |
| *schestowitz is not an OOOo user | Jul 28 00:13 | |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I suppose, I was thinking about other channels on Freenode | Jul 28 00:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @bdesmet ♺ @schestowitz: Dell 'returns' to #gnu #linux in a major way http://ur1.ca/0uwtq http://ur1.ca/0uwtr http://ur1.ca/0uwts | Jul 28 00:21 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Dell expands Ubuntu Linux desktop offerings - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 58.81 KB | Jul 28 00:21 |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: Calm down! Dell is not throwing Ubuntu Linux out! | ITworld .::. Size~: 81.62 KB | Jul 28 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | OK, I'm declaring that FGLRX has been fixed | Jul 28 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 28 00:23 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: anyway thankyou, I'm just wondering how I can import an XML file straight into Base | Jul 28 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | my CPU fan had managed to come a bit loose and was rattling | Jul 28 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 28 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | gah | Jul 28 00:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "Microsoft calls Google-Yahoo search pact in Japan anticompetitive" - Lol Microsoft calls another anticompetitive? Oh the irony. #microsoft | Jul 28 00:26 | |
| schestowitz | [00:11] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: where do I go if I need help with OpenOffice? | Jul 28 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Where do I go if I need help with Office? | Jul 28 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Where do I go if I need help with a corrupt official who needs reporting? :-) | Jul 28 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://interopvendoralliance.org/blogs/redhat.aspx | Jul 28 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | yay! | Jul 28 00:40 |
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| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 28 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | they still list Linspire | Jul 28 00:41 |
| cubevector | redhat.aspx? | Jul 28 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | which no longer exists | Jul 28 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jul 28 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | redhat.aspx | Jul 28 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 28 00:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 27/7/2010: #Dell Restores and Expands #Ubuntu Offerings (US), #Linux Quality Assurance http://ur1.ca/0ux57 | Jul 28 00:41 | |
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| cubevector | that confuses my brain | Jul 28 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder when Canonical will join | Jul 28 00:42 |
| cubevector | anyways openoffice is pretty bloated | Jul 28 00:42 |
| cubevector | I rarely use it | Jul 28 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://interopvendoralliance.org/blogs/linspire.aspx | Jul 28 00:42 |
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| schestowitz | [00:42] <DaemonFC> I wonder when Canonical will join | Jul 28 00:43 |
| schestowitz | What for? | Jul 28 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | cause they can | Jul 28 00:43 |
| schestowitz | It's an office somewhere or just a Web site | Jul 28 00:43 |
| schestowitz | They get staff or a person with some hours per week | Jul 28 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Those who join this body with a big name and nothing else pay a tax to fund the lackey who runs it | Jul 28 00:44 |
| schestowitz | The Linuc Foundation and OIN are like that, but they have decent size | Jul 28 00:44 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: O[racel]OOo is this thing that opens up and takes up RAM when people toss JUNK into my inbox | Jul 28 00:45 |
| cubevector | heh | Jul 28 00:45 |
| schestowitz | PDF is bad, but not as bad | Jul 28 00:46 |
| cubevector | ppt2text ftw? | Jul 28 00:46 |
| cubevector | or microsoft_crap2text ftw | Jul 28 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | KOffice can import OOXML | Jul 28 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | but it will only save to ODF | Jul 28 00:47 |
| cubevector | yeah but what about us 486 dudes? | Jul 28 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://kmandla.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/2010-07-18-mn-340-001-debian-win2k.jpg | Jul 28 00:47 |
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| cubevector | we need text mode | Jul 28 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Debian dressed up as Windows 2000 | Jul 28 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | yay! | Jul 28 00:47 |
| cubevector | you can imagine what happens when I actually go to a computer store | Jul 28 00:48 |
| cubevector | "do you have vic-20 games?" | Jul 28 00:48 |
| cubevector | yeah things have improved so much :) | Jul 28 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | cubevector dresses up his 486 to look like he has Windows 2000 | Jul 28 00:49 |
| cubevector | except computer stores | Jul 28 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | but it's really Debian | Jul 28 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | and that's 1337 | Jul 28 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 28 00:49 |
| cubevector | DaemonFC, Microsoft had a lot of influence on Motif | Jul 28 00:50 |
| cubevector | look at icewm even | Jul 28 00:50 |
| cubevector | _ [] X | Jul 28 00:50 |
| cubevector | probably SunOS was the first real commerical GUI | Jul 28 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://a.imageshack.us/img62/3374/snapshot1jp.png | Jul 28 00:53 |
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| cubevector | and early Apple looked a _lot_ like SunOS | Jul 28 00:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: nice. FF4 | Jul 28 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I removed Mandriva's Firefox and Xulrunner | Jul 28 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | and stuffed the Firefox 4 Beta 2 candidate in /opt | Jul 28 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | and danced around making things use it as the default browser :) | Jul 28 00:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you use mandriva's kde3 win decorators | Jul 28 00:54 |
| cubevector | I like the weather applet | Jul 28 00:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/images?hl=&q=kde4+windows+decorator&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&biw=1596&bih=852 | Jul 28 00:55 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: kde4 windows decorator - Google Search .::. Size~: 837.54 KB | Jul 28 00:55 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: mine is also a world map | Jul 28 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Interactive time | Jul 28 00:55 |
| schestowitz | And it shows the sun's movement over the globe | Jul 28 00:55 |
| schestowitz | in real-time | Jul 28 00:55 |
| schestowitz | It's called the World Clock plasmoid | Jul 28 00:56 |
| cubevector | I'm writing my own clock :) | Jul 28 00:56 |
| cubevector | just to see now little memory I can get it to work in | Jul 28 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 28 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm gonna try Rainbow Six Vegas 2 | Jul 28 00:58 |
| cubevector | oh that reminds me, I was going to try to get EUS to work on vector | Jul 28 00:58 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Techrights viewed in #Firefox 4 under #Mandriva 2010.1 http://a.imageshack.us/img62/3374/snapshot1jp.png screenshot from @daemonfc | Jul 28 00:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Augen-Gentouch78-and-TheBook-eReader-and-Motorola-tablet-rumors/ | Jul 28 01:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Infibeamcom-Phi/?kc=rss | Jul 28 01:02 |
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| schestowitz | Who wants a Seven-inch Android? | Jul 28 01:02 |
| cubevector | how much? | Jul 28 01:03 |
| cubevector | here's something I'd probably buy | Jul 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://a.imageshack.us/img594/2434/snapshot3t.png | Jul 28 01:04 |
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| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 28 01:04 |
| cubevector | >$100, supports X, 640x480 (at least), ARM, keyboard, handheld | Jul 28 01:04 |
| cubevector | >=$100 | Jul 28 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | wonder if it'll work | Jul 28 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | I'm gonna dig up a no-DVD | Jul 28 01:05 |
| cubevector | zaurus sl-5500 had Qtopia | Jul 28 01:06 |
| cubevector | if all goes well, I should login as cubeAROS later | Jul 28 01:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Symphony of Science is a musical project headed by John Boswell http://symphonyofscience.com/ | Jul 28 01:09 | |
| cubevector | found an RTL8029 card | Jul 28 01:09 |
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| schestowitz | tessier: good night. I hope the server won't lose apache like it did for three hours earlier today. It's worth monitoring and rerunning apache if something goes wrong | Jul 28 01:17 |
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| DaemonFC | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3895091/Forking-KDE-3-Trinity-KDEs-Timothy-Pearson.htm | Jul 28 01:38 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Forking KDE 3: Trinity KDE's Timothy Pearson — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 68.88 KB | Jul 28 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | "I seriously considered going back to Windows. The only thing that kept me from doing that was the sheer expense of deploying Windows Server across multiple environments." | Jul 28 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 28 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing stopping him from going back to Windows is that it costs money | Jul 28 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | he acts like there aren't a dozen other desktop environments out there if he hates KDE 4 | Jul 28 01:39 |
| cubevector | *ahem* | Jul 28 01:39 |
| cubevector | yes | Jul 28 01:39 |
| cubevector | there's tons of wm's | Jul 28 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME is kind of meh, Compiz makes it fairly lulzy, but you don't use COmpiz on a server | Jul 28 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | so that should not be an issue | Jul 28 01:41 |
| cubevector | I think I can even install qt4 on vector | Jul 28 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | for that matter, why is he using a heavy desktop environment at all on a server | Jul 28 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | most servers don't even have X at all | Jul 28 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | or if they do need a GUI, it's something like Windowmaker | Jul 28 01:41 |
| cubevector | ummm, actually I'd rather have X on there | Jul 28 01:42 |
| cubevector | ssh -X user@server etc | Jul 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | the goal of a server isn't to look pretty, it's to get work done | Jul 28 01:42 |
| cubevector | true | Jul 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | IRIX looked like ass but it was a very powerful workstation | Jul 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | it was "efficient" | Jul 28 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | if not all that pretty | Jul 28 01:43 |
| cubevector | also, non x86 is a great server for not playing games :) | Jul 28 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | Quake III Arena works on IRIX | Jul 28 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 28 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | the GPL'd engine compiles and runs, go find a Windows disc with the game data | Jul 28 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 28 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | runs pretty well I might add :D | Jul 28 01:44 |
| cubevector | Loki sold Quake III arena I think | Jul 28 01:44 |
| cubevector | so that's all you need | Jul 28 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | for IRIX? | Jul 28 01:44 |
| cubevector | uh no, not IRIX :) | Jul 28 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Visual_Workstation | Jul 28 01:45 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: SGI Visual Workstation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 29.51 KB | Jul 28 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | that right there was what hurt SGI | Jul 28 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | more than any other stupid decision they made | Jul 28 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | switch over from MIPS to Pentium IIIs | Jul 28 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | ewww | Jul 28 01:46 |
| cubevector | SGI... well | Jul 28 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | their MIPS workstations were excellent | Jul 28 01:46 |
| cubevector | Sun experimented with 386's | Jul 28 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | they have some X86-64 workstations with RHEL on them now | Jul 28 01:46 |
| cubevector | but I don't think that worked out too well | Jul 28 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | and those are good | Jul 28 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | but Pentium III's? wtf were they thinking | Jul 28 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Pentium IIIs with Windows 2000 no less | Jul 28 01:47 |
| cubevector | when did SGI die? | Jul 28 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | I might take another look at CentOS or Scientific Linux on my other system | Jul 28 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | they're not dead dead | Jul 28 01:48 |
| cubevector | oh? | Jul 28 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | they went bankrupt and got bought by Rackable Systems | Jul 28 01:48 |
| cubevector | oh right, I remember that | Jul 28 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | which changed its name to Silicon Graphics | Jul 28 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 28 01:48 |
| cubevector | you have to admit the wikipedia picture is rather dated: | Jul 28 01:48 |
| cubevector | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IRIX_desktop.png | Jul 28 01:48 |
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| DaemonFC | I think the GPL release of the DOOM and Quake engines were a ploy | Jul 28 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | to kill productivity on non-x86 POSIX systems | Jul 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a_lto6tMds | Jul 28 01:49 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Quake 3 Arena on SGI Indigo2 Irix .::. Size~: 89.96 KB | Jul 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | listen to the fans on that thing :) | Jul 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | cubevector: Mandriva's MSEC is nice | Jul 28 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | I was looking over it in some detail earlier | Jul 28 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | it has different security profiles depending on what you want to use your computer for | Jul 28 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | and it disables things that typically shouldn't be allowed in that role | Jul 28 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | I think that feature has been seriously overlooked by reviewers | Jul 28 01:52 |
| cubevector | 1992 computer impressive | Jul 28 01:53 |
| cubevector | for the time | Jul 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox 4 has really cut down on the memory bloat issues | Jul 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | by quite a lot | Jul 28 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | [08:31:27] <TechrightsBot> Title: Forking KDE 3: Trinity KDE's Timothy Pearson — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 68.88 KB | Jul 28 01:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | url for this? | Jul 28 01:54 |
| cubevector | I think this one: | Jul 28 01:54 |
| cubevector | http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/ | Jul 28 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, Foobar 2000 works great in Wine 1.2 :) | Jul 28 02:30 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 28 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | I like the fact they finally thought to make it obvious how much free space your devices have in Dolphin | Jul 28 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | before 4.3 I don't think it told you | Jul 28 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | could be worse, Linux could be like VMS and tell you how many "blocks" are free | Jul 28 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | so oh well | Jul 28 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | the official Firefox 4 beta 2 is up | Jul 28 02:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @chrisblizzard: "There’s no question that there is an income shift going on in the economy" - http://nyti.ms/d8RYEx | Jul 28 03:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @sjvn: 'n Search Of... Android Tablets http://is.gd/dMRN2 They're coming, but quickly. | Jul 28 03:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @glynmoody: Android Will be Dominant Mobile OS According to Motorola’s Sanjay Jha - http://bit.ly/98L3Zh | Jul 28 03:06 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Android Will be Dominant Mobile OS According to Motorolas Sanjay Jha | Android Phone Fans .::. Size~: 37.09 KB | Jul 28 03:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @sjvn: Dell expands Ubuntu Linux desktop offerings http://is.gd/dMECQ Far from pulling back from #Ubuntu #Linux #Dell is offering more. | Jul 28 03:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @darrellhudson: Ten Reasons to Dump Windows and Use Linux http://cli.gs/Q1mu8 | Jul 28 03:08 | |
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| cubezzz3 | ah, yandex is a Russian bot | Jul 28 03:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @sjvn: Apple's Droid X antenna accusation just doesn't fly by @pgralla http://bit.ly/bs6Wl6 | Jul 28 03:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @glynmoody: Android phone sales triple this year - http://bit.ly/9F88r9 key: more consumers "now asking for Android handsets by name" | Jul 28 03:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | is that a problem of MS Office formats or Office itself? | Jul 28 03:40 |
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| DaemonFC | rheet | Jul 28 05:05 |
| cubezzz3 | kind of funny: | Jul 28 05:13 |
| cubezzz3 | http://www.imsai.net/movies/wargames.htm | Jul 28 05:13 |
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| *DaemonFC grabbed the 32-bit Seamonkey and was stumped when VLC didn't work in it :) | Jul 28 05:45 | |
| DaemonFC | lets try this again | Jul 28 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | rheet | Jul 28 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | dammit | Jul 28 05:46 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] The holiday begins -- see you in September, tweeps! http://craphound.com/?p=3052 | Jul 28 05:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/4.0b2/linux-x86_64/en-US/ | Jul 28 05:53 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 28 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | they didn't go to great pains to make this easy to find | Jul 28 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | all they make a link to is the i686 build | Jul 28 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | it looks like the official build is the same as candidate build 1 | Jul 28 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | the tarball is about 500K bigger though | Jul 28 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | which is odd | Jul 28 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | but the Firefox build is exactly the same | Jul 28 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | oh well | Jul 28 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure I'm missing something here | Jul 28 05:59 |
| cubezzz3 | tar.bz can be smaller than tar.gz | Jul 28 06:08 |
| cubezzz3 | or I should say tar.bz2 | Jul 28 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'm uploading some RPMs I built for Catalyst 10.7 | Jul 28 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 28 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz3: It could also be because of localization or something | Jul 28 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | there are different localizations, but the build is the same as the first candidate | Jul 28 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | I hate how the Rapidshare link expires after a couple minutes and you have to do the countdown again | Jul 28 06:19 |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz3: I wonder when the Firefox 4 skins will be arriving | Jul 28 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 28 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | shameless pun | Jul 28 06:32 |
| cubezzz3 | ugh | Jul 28 06:39 |
| cubezzz3 | I should be too tired to get it | Jul 28 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | son of a bitch | Jul 28 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | dammit | Jul 28 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | effing volume controls | Jul 28 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | 20 of them | Jul 28 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | all competing | Jul 28 06:40 |
| cubezzz3 | alsamixer command line ftw | Jul 28 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | well, at least now I won't need an earwax removal kit | Jul 28 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | I'm DEAF! | Jul 28 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 28 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.rheet.com/ | Jul 28 06:41 |
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| DaemonFC | I have yet to see anything funnier than a 20 pound cat thinking he's sneaking around | Jul 28 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 28 06:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Do anybody has any experience with 'DIY creating IR pass filter'. #ir #photography #howto | Jul 28 06:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | nice | Jul 28 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | it's like it never ends | Jul 28 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTzwJsHpU8 | Jul 28 06:51 |
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| tessier_ | 20lb cat? That's bigger than both of my dogs put together! | Jul 28 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | RMS needs to hire this guy to do the singing | Jul 28 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 28 06:54 |
| MinceR | some 20 lb. cats can sneak around | Jul 28 06:55 |
| MinceR | depends on what those 20 lbs. are made of :> | Jul 28 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | not on a coffee table | Jul 28 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | he was trying to sneak over to eat some food I left on the table | Jul 28 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | and keeping his head down and crawling so I wouldn't notice him | Jul 28 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 28 06:56 |
| MinceR | strange | Jul 28 06:56 |
| MinceR | apparently m$ thinks that the "Transitional" versions of standards aren' | Jul 28 06:57 |
| MinceR | apparently m$ thinks that the "Transitional" versions of standards aren't standard | Jul 28 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | well thanks to their web editing tools abusing that doctype declaration, they're usually right | Jul 28 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 28 06:57 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 28 06:58 |
| MinceR | because everybody uses AffrontPage? | Jul 28 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | Frontpage Distress 98 | Jul 28 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 28 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | My town's government got it for free in a box of cracker jacks | Jul 28 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | been using it ever since | Jul 28 06:59 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: HTML 4.01 Transitional could be HTML 4.01 Transitional or an HTML 4.01 Transitional doctype followed by a page full of nonstandard MS HTML spew | Jul 28 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | you can't trust the doctype or else they would never need a compatibility list | Jul 28 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 28 07:01 |
| MinceR | even if it's Strict it could be full of nonstandard m$html spew | Jul 28 07:04 |
| MinceR | i think m$html deserves to break | Jul 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, but at least Expression Web doesn't suck as hard as Frontpage | Jul 28 07:04 |
| MinceR | if you were stupid enough to output m$html, your pages deserve to break | Jul 28 07:04 |
| MinceR | and you deserve to redo it all, this time correctly | Jul 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | under the supervision of a monkey armed with a taser that's been trained to spot MSHTML B-) | Jul 28 07:04 |
| MinceR | but if i write Transitional it's only because i use one or two elements or attributes that's not in Strict (because i'm being lazy at the time) | Jul 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Their own products use the Transitional variant of the "standards" they submitted and still manage to add undocumented crap (Office 2007 and 2010 for example) | Jul 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | Office 2010 can READ strict OOXML, but it can't WRITE it | Jul 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | How messed up is that? | Jul 28 07:04 |
| MinceR | it's a m$-grade messup | Jul 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | so lets say you use some mythical office suite that outputs valid strict OOXML, Office 2010 will import it, and then when the user edits and hits save, it's suddenly OOXML transitional + crap, that might not even format right in the office suite that it originated in | Jul 28 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | hooray! | Jul 28 07:05 |
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| DaemonFC | you can't tell me they don't do this shit on purpose | Jul 28 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | "Strict" OOXML is a decoy | Jul 28 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft will never support writing to the documented "standard" form of OOXML they've published | Jul 28 07:07 |
| MinceR | for example, a bobcat can be 20 lbs. and if it can't sneak, it most likely starves :> | Jul 28 07:07 |
| MinceR | (or will have to do with insects) | Jul 28 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | a bobcat is usually larger than 20 pounds | Jul 28 07:08 |
| MinceR | "Adult males usually range from 16 to 30 pounds (7.3 to 14 kg); females average about 20 pounds (9.1 kg)." | Jul 28 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 28 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | I thought they were bigger | Jul 28 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Calero_Creek_Trail_Bobcat.jpg | Jul 28 07:10 |
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| DaemonFC | here kitty kitty | Jul 28 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 28 07:10 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, they're tall, long, and muscular | Jul 28 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | Jabba is just a fat housecat | Jul 28 07:12 |
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| MinceR | that's why i said it depends on what those 20 pounds are made of :> | Jul 28 07:13 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: I can't believe ecomstation (OS/2) is still profitable enough to maintain | Jul 28 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | why would people still want to use that? | Jul 28 07:17 |
| oiaohm | OS/2 is quite a secuire desgin. DaemonFC | Jul 28 07:18 |
| oiaohm | Lot of OS/2 uses still include items like ATMs and the like. | Jul 28 07:19 |
| cubezzz3 | do any ATM's use Linux? | Jul 28 07:20 |
| oiaohm | Also its also very resources lite for how secure it is. | Jul 28 07:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it isn't windows | Jul 28 07:20 |
| MinceR | that's the reason :> | Jul 28 07:20 |
| oiaohm | Not that I directly know of yet cubezzz3 | Jul 28 07:20 |
| oiaohm | But that does not mean there are not some out there. | Jul 28 07:20 |
| MinceR | well, it's easy to tell if an ATM uses winblows because of the crash screens/dialogs | Jul 28 07:21 |
| MinceR | but that doesn't make GNU/Linux ATMs easy to spot :> | Jul 28 07:21 |
| MinceR | dunno about OS/2 | Jul 28 07:21 |
| cubezzz3 | I can't believe they really used windows for an ATM | Jul 28 07:21 |
| cubezzz3 | but I've seen pictures | Jul 28 07:21 |
| oiaohm | http://www.linux.org/people/banrisul_english.html Get worse. | Jul 28 07:22 |
| oiaohm | Yes somewhere might be using Linux based atms. | Jul 28 07:22 |
| oiaohm | Scary that they were replacing dos. | Jul 28 07:22 |
| cubezzz3 | I wonder what Canadian banks use | Jul 28 07:23 |
| cubezzz3 | I know Chapters was using doze | Jul 28 07:23 |
| oiaohm | If you see diabloical like name on the atm its windows. | Jul 28 07:23 |
| cubezzz3 | windows server 2003 | Jul 28 07:23 |
| MinceR | diebold? | Jul 28 07:24 |
| oiaohm | Yep them MinceR | Jul 28 07:24 |
| oiaohm | Same guys would could not make a vote counting machine to save their life. | Jul 28 07:24 |
| MinceR | what do NCR and IBM use? | Jul 28 07:24 |
| oiaohm | And they are one of the biggest makers of windows based atms. | Jul 28 07:24 |
| oiaohm | NCR and IBM ATM's are up to the client. | Jul 28 07:25 |
| cubezzz3 | NCR used to use Unix System V, but that was a long time ago | Jul 28 07:25 |
| MinceR | well, diebold could make a vote counting machine, it just wasn | Jul 28 07:25 |
| MinceR | well, diebold could make a vote counting machine, it just wasn't impartial. :> | Jul 28 07:25 |
| MinceR | or secure. | Jul 28 07:25 |
| cubezzz3 | I recall an NCR 68020 tower | Jul 28 07:25 |
| MinceR | i still don't get why i keep pressing enter instead of ' on this compact keyboard | Jul 28 07:25 |
| MinceR | ' is in the same position as always :> | Jul 28 07:25 |
| cubezzz3 | smaller return key? | Jul 28 07:26 |
| MinceR | it's wider | Jul 28 07:26 |
| cubezzz3 | oh, well that could do it :) | Jul 28 07:26 |
| MinceR | but i never hit \ instead of ' when that was next to it | Jul 28 07:26 |
| cubezzz3 | is it a Microsoft keyboard? :-) | Jul 28 07:27 |
| MinceR | (couldn't get a mechanical keyboard with the enter key shape i like...) | Jul 28 07:27 |
| MinceR | it's a Cherry G84-4100PTMDE | Jul 28 07:27 |
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| MinceR | perhaps i'm still not used to the smaller keys | Jul 28 07:29 |
| oiaohm | I am very picky with my keyboard | Jul 28 07:31 |
| cubezzz3 | I have a labtec, it's not that great | Jul 28 07:31 |
| oiaohm | Thinking the last one that did not work I ending up using as boss scaring device. | Jul 28 07:31 |
| oiaohm | The fun effect keyboard with disconnected keys and a black air hose instead of cable. | Jul 28 07:32 |
| oiaohm | Me after 4 impossible requests is not good. | Jul 28 07:33 |
| MinceR | i got tired of keyboards that quickly become hard to use | Jul 28 07:34 |
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| MinceR | hopefully this one will last and retain its characteristics :) | Jul 28 07:34 |
| MinceR | not having to press keys all the way down is neat | Jul 28 07:34 |
| cubezzz3 | keytronic isn't bad | Jul 28 07:35 |
| cubezzz3 | no one sells them in Canada though | Jul 28 07:35 |
| oiaohm | I am trying to remember the name of the keyboard in front of me. I went for the pure black unbranded version. Yes is not a cheep keyboard. And I do mean pure black it has not key letterings. | Jul 28 07:37 |
| oiaohm | Ie it don't walk from my locations most people need to look at the keyboard for keys. | Jul 28 07:37 |
| cubezzz3 | hmmm | Jul 28 07:40 |
| cubezzz3 | that would be a bit tricky for programming though | Jul 28 07:41 |
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| MinceR | not really | Jul 28 07:44 |
| MinceR | this one has different symbols printed than my layout :) | Jul 28 07:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: Das Keyboard or Filco Majestouch Otaku? :) | Jul 28 07:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] FOSS jobs in India - Wednesday, July 28 2010 http://post.ly/p6rt | Jul 28 07:46 | |
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| cubezzz3 | I saw one that was all LCD display | Jul 28 07:48 |
| MinceR | not OLED? | Jul 28 07:48 |
| cubezzz3 | you could make the keys anything you wanted | Jul 28 07:48 |
| MinceR | iirc the Optimus keyboards use OLED | Jul 28 07:48 |
| MinceR | (and Cherry ML switches like mine) | Jul 28 07:48 |
| cubezzz3 | oh ok | Jul 28 07:48 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah it was Optimus Maximus | Jul 28 07:49 |
| oiaohm | I was forbin from having a Das Keyboard. I only type a 70+ words per min. And they were worried about the noise. Filco Majestouch Otaku sound about right. | Jul 28 07:51 |
| oiaohm | Yes it was a few years ago I got the keyboard. Das at the time did not have a silent version. | Jul 28 07:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 28 07:51 |
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| oiaohm | Really my mother with a Das would be a worry. | Jul 28 07:52 |
| cubezzz3 | there's Model S Professional Silent Keyboard | Jul 28 07:52 |
| oiaohm | 120 to 150 words per Min. | Jul 28 07:52 |
| cubezzz3 | sounds perfect for oiaohm :) | Jul 28 07:52 |
| oiaohm | I am slow. | Jul 28 07:52 |
| oiaohm | Every year I get about 2 to 3 word per min faster. | Jul 28 07:52 |
| oiaohm | Same does my mother. | Jul 28 07:53 |
| oiaohm | Before retirement she might make the magical 200 words per min on a standard keyboard. | Jul 28 07:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] What's the Latest in the Psystar Appeal? - http://bit.ly/dahzQK not sure I follow PJ's logic here... #apple #ibm | Jul 28 07:53 | |
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| oiaohm | Little fun fact about Windows 98 you could fail to login by typing too fast. | Jul 28 07:54 |
| oiaohm | Ie enter user name and password and press enter. | Jul 28 07:54 |
| oiaohm | Windows 98 could try to process the username and password before they are transfered to the internal memory. | Jul 28 07:54 |
| oiaohm | So login as Null Null is funny. | Jul 28 07:55 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 28 07:55 |
| cubezzz3 | interesting how ps/2 keyboard is better than USB | Jul 28 07:55 |
| MinceR | doesn't make much difference to win98 | Jul 28 07:55 |
| MinceR | cubezzz3: not in all ways | Jul 28 07:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Presente y futuras amenazas a la libertad del software http://ur1.ca/0v116 Translation of last week’s talk about threats to software freedom | Jul 28 07:55 | |
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| MinceR | USB is hotplug, PS/2 is not | Jul 28 07:55 |
| MinceR | this is more important for me than key rollover :) | Jul 28 07:55 |
| cubezzz3 | oh? You unplug your keyboard a lot? :) | Jul 28 07:56 |
| MinceR | (also, i can use hubs) | Jul 28 07:56 |
| MinceR | yes | Jul 28 07:56 |
| MinceR | my computer goes to suspend mode and i carry both machines and keyboards | Jul 28 07:56 |
| cubezzz3 | I just connect a keyboard to each machine :) | Jul 28 07:56 |
| MinceR | that isn't always feasible | Jul 28 07:57 |
| MinceR | also if i take the company laptop to a meeting, i don't take the keyboard :> | Jul 28 07:57 |
| oiaohm | I find PS/2 keyboards more stable in most cases. | Jul 28 07:57 |
| MinceR | another point: there are no PS/2 ports on most modern laptops | Jul 28 07:57 |
| cubezzz3 | hmmm | Jul 28 07:57 |
| cubezzz3 | let me check mine, it's kind of old | Jul 28 07:57 |
| oiaohm | evne using usb to ps2 converters with them. | Jul 28 07:57 |
| cubezzz3 | it's there | Jul 28 07:58 |
| oiaohm | Ie I don't know what pure USB keyboards have wrong but its something. | Jul 28 07:58 |
| MinceR | it's a pity that USB uses polling, but in practice it makes no difference | Jul 28 07:58 |
| cubezzz3 | slower maybe? | Jul 28 07:58 |
| MinceR | especially when debouncing already introduces a 5 ms delay anyway | Jul 28 07:58 |
| oiaohm | Maybe usb issues is too small of processor in keyboard. | Jul 28 07:59 |
| oiaohm | Todo everything. | Jul 28 07:59 |
| MinceR | also, this keyboard wasn't exactly cheap :> | Jul 28 07:59 |
| oiaohm | I don't have much trouble with ps2 keyboards. | Jul 28 07:59 |
| oiaohm | or usb | Jul 28 07:59 |
| cubezzz3 | usb not mean for keyboards I don't think | Jul 28 07:59 |
| oiaohm | but people I deal with that type 100+ have hell. | Jul 28 07:59 |
| cubezzz3 | very small asyncronous packets | Jul 28 07:59 |
| MinceR | afaik USB was originally designed for keyboards and mice | Jul 28 08:00 |
| MinceR | other stuff came later :) | Jul 28 08:00 |
| cubezzz3 | hmmm | Jul 28 08:00 |
| cubezzz3 | well the idea was it standardized connectors | Jul 28 08:00 |
| oiaohm | Notice I said usb computer to ps2 keyboard then a ps2 keyboard works fine. | Jul 28 08:00 |
| MinceR | oh, also serial and parallel ports | Jul 28 08:00 |
| oiaohm | But a keyboard with just a USB seams to have problems. | Jul 28 08:01 |
| cubezzz3 | I stay away from adapters if possible | Jul 28 08:01 |
| oiaohm | Normally I do. | Jul 28 08:01 |
| oiaohm | But this is one of these odd cases. | Jul 28 08:01 |
| oiaohm | Where ith adapter seams to work better. | Jul 28 08:01 |
| oiaohm | Note usb keboard to ps2 computer is worse again. | Jul 28 08:01 |
| cubezzz3 | that is odd | Jul 28 08:01 |
| oiaohm | In lots of cases. | Jul 28 08:02 |
| cubezzz3 | I had some trouble with usb mice | Jul 28 08:02 |
| cubezzz3 | true ps/2 mice worked better on very old computers | Jul 28 08:02 |
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| oiaohm | Note I am a tech so I need to carry keyboard at times. | Jul 28 08:03 |
| cubezzz3 | Sun really liked to do things their way | Jul 28 08:03 |
| oiaohm | So ps/2 keyboard and mouse plus ps2 usb convertor is perfect. | Jul 28 08:04 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah, those mini-keyboards are handy | Jul 28 08:04 |
| oiaohm | No way I would go the other way. | Jul 28 08:04 |
| oiaohm | ps/2 is quite a light protocal. | Jul 28 08:04 |
| MinceR | the converter makes it heavier though :> | Jul 28 08:05 |
| cubezzz3 | I don't really like disconnecting and reconnecting peripherals all the time | Jul 28 08:05 |
| MinceR | it's strange anyway, those adapters are only physical adapters, afaik -- most of the work is still done by the controller in the keyboard | Jul 28 08:05 |
| MinceR | which can do both USB and PS/2 | Jul 28 08:05 |
| MinceR | this keyboard is USB by default but it came with a converter to PS/2 | Jul 28 08:06 |
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| oiaohm | ps2 on keyboard and usb on computer converters don't push the processing back on to keyboard controller | Jul 28 08:07 |
| cubezzz3 | btw: | Jul 28 08:07 |
| cubezzz3 | n general, most users having trouble connecting their keyboard to newer computers are | Jul 28 08:07 |
| cubezzz3 | looking for a ps/2 to USB signal CONVERTER. These devices use an integrated circuit | Jul 28 08:07 |
| cubezzz3 | (pre-programmed chip) to actively translate the ps/2 keyboard signal and convert it into a | Jul 28 08:07 |
| cubezzz3 | USB keyboard signal. | Jul 28 08:07 |
| oiaohm | They have there own chip. | Jul 28 08:07 |
| oiaohm | I think the problem comes from the USB keyboards trying to be duel role. | Jul 28 08:08 |
| cubezzz3 | I'm told it's better to use a signal converter rather than a mere adapter | Jul 28 08:08 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 28 08:09 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen those, i think | Jul 28 08:09 |
| MinceR | they're significantly bulkier, aren't they? | Jul 28 08:09 |
| cubezzz3 | do new motherboards even have ps/2 connectors now? | Jul 28 08:09 |
| cubezzz3 | yes | Jul 28 08:09 |
| MinceR | they probably do | Jul 28 08:09 |
| MinceR | except for the "no legacy" types, which are rare | Jul 28 08:09 |
| oiaohm | Not really the chip is small enough to fit in the plugs. MinceR | Jul 28 08:09 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 28 08:09 |
| MinceR | are there any markings to tell the difference? | Jul 28 08:10 |
| cubezzz3 | oiaohm, do you know any LCD that can sync at lower frequencies? | Jul 28 08:10 |
| cubezzz3 | for old video modes like 320x200 | Jul 28 08:10 |
| oiaohm | usb port on computer to ps2 ports for keyboard and mouse. Have to have chip. | Jul 28 08:10 |
| oiaohm | The other way chip is optional MinceR | Jul 28 08:10 |
| MinceR | why? | Jul 28 08:11 |
| oiaohm | And no there is no out casing way to tell. | Jul 28 08:11 |
| cubezzz3 | ah, better just to use the correct part :) | Jul 28 08:11 |
| MinceR | i thought in both cases whether the chip is needed only depends on whether the controller in the peripheral can handle both protocols or not | Jul 28 08:12 |
| oiaohm | PS2 keyboards don't know both protocals. | Jul 28 08:12 |
| cubezzz3 | also there is the issue of fit | Jul 28 08:12 |
| oiaohm | They only know 1. | Jul 28 08:12 |
| oiaohm | And are only allowed to know one. | Jul 28 08:12 |
| cubezzz3 | the adapter could droop down | Jul 28 08:12 |
| oiaohm | usb keyboards without chips are depending on the ps/2 start up poll or the usb start up poll to work out what mode that it should be running in. | Jul 28 08:13 |
| oiaohm | That can screw up a few bioses by the way. | Jul 28 08:13 |
| oiaohm | That send the ps/2 poll wrong. | Jul 28 08:13 |
| MinceR | the industry rarely care about rare screwups :> | Jul 28 08:13 |
| MinceR | s/re/res/ | Jul 28 08:13 |
| MinceR | undo | Jul 28 08:13 |
| oiaohm | So the usb keyboard attempts talking to the ps/2 port in usb. | Jul 28 08:13 |
| MinceR | s/care/cares/ | Jul 28 08:13 |
| oiaohm | About 25 percent of the motherboards out there. | Jul 28 08:14 |
| oiaohm | With about 15 percent of the usb keyboards. | Jul 28 08:14 |
| oiaohm | Not good. | Jul 28 08:14 |
| cubezzz3 | the coreboot guys know hardware pretty good | Jul 28 08:15 |
| oiaohm | Offically by the way straight wire threw ps2 to usb convertors breach ps/2 licencing. | Jul 28 08:15 |
| MinceR | can't a wrong ps/2 poll be detected? | Jul 28 08:16 |
| MinceR | i doubt anyone cares about ps/2 licensing | Jul 28 08:16 |
| oiaohm | By the time you detect it. | Jul 28 08:16 |
| MinceR | after all, it's IBM and relates to personal computing, so not even IBM cares | Jul 28 08:16 |
| oiaohm | Things can be a very big mess. | Jul 28 08:16 |
| cubezzz3 | bah, some people were making noise about glibc | Jul 28 08:17 |
| oiaohm | Like cleared bios kind of mess or worse. | Jul 28 08:17 |
| cubezzz3 | it gets silly after a while | Jul 28 08:17 |
| oiaohm | glibc does have issues. | Jul 28 08:17 |
| cubezzz3 | what is the problem? | Jul 28 08:17 |
| oiaohm | They do need to be addressed. | Jul 28 08:17 |
| cubezzz3 | it's BSD license and not GPL? | Jul 28 08:17 |
| oiaohm | Mostly the huge stack of legacy stuff it caries around. | Jul 28 08:18 |
| cubezzz3 | I bet most people don't even know what's in there :) | Jul 28 08:18 |
| oiaohm | glibc is lgpl | Jul 28 08:18 |
| oiaohm | Really the fastest way to clean glibc up would be to split it. | Jul 28 08:19 |
| oiaohm | ie glibc legacy and glibc new | Jul 28 08:19 |
| cubezzz3 | it was forked before | Jul 28 08:20 |
| oiaohm | So allowing over time all the legacy stuff to be killed off. | Jul 28 08:20 |
| cubezzz3 | "In the early 1990s, the developers of the Linux kernel forked glibc. Their fork, called "Linux libc", was maintained separately for years and released versions 2 through 5." | Jul 28 08:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Primary Sources on Copyright (1450-1900) - http://bit.ly/bcobWB fab resource for connoisseurs of intellectual monopolies #copyright | Jul 28 08:20 | |
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| oiaohm | Problem is the forks mostly contain the legacy to run old applications. | Jul 28 08:20 |
| oiaohm | Ie you cannot just kill of the legacy completely. | Jul 28 08:20 |
| oiaohm | We wish we could. | Jul 28 08:21 |
| cubezzz3 | what legacy stuff? | Jul 28 08:21 |
| cubezzz3 | just curious, as I used Lattice C a long time ago | Jul 28 08:21 |
| oiaohm | Emulations for old bugs glibc had. | Jul 28 08:21 |
| cubezzz3 | ah | Jul 28 08:22 |
| MinceR | it would be bad to keep legacy apps from running just because we're lazy | Jul 28 08:22 |
| MinceR | even UT1 uses an old glibc, iirc | Jul 28 08:22 |
| oiaohm | Support of bugs in the old posix libc standard. | Jul 28 08:22 |
| cubezzz3 | I wonder how old these bugs are | Jul 28 08:22 |
| oiaohm | Some are 20 to 30 years old | Jul 28 08:22 |
| oiaohm | some are even pre glibc existing. cubezzz3 | Jul 28 08:23 |
| oiaohm | There comes a point you should draw a line in the sand. | Jul 28 08:23 |
| cubezzz3 | 30 years is hard to believe | Jul 28 08:23 |
| cubezzz3 | that's 1980 era | Jul 28 08:23 |
| cubezzz3 | probably before Lattice C even existed :) | Jul 28 08:24 |
| MinceR | funny, i remember reading a book that refers to Lattice C | Jul 28 08:24 |
| MinceR | i've seen no mention of it until now | Jul 28 08:24 |
| cubezzz3 | I used it on Amiga | Jul 28 08:24 |
| cubezzz3 | and so did Microsoft :) | Jul 28 08:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] there was a spell mistake in my blog - Read it as - 'we are not going to take single ...' instead of 'we are now going to take single ....' | Jul 28 08:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Android Takes New Approach To Fighting Piracy With Licensing Service - http://tcrn.ch/bO6GUX retrogressive: imagine this applied to content | Jul 28 08:24 | |
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| cubezzz3 | Manx and Lattice were early C compilers | Jul 28 08:24 |
| cubezzz3 | Microsoft used Lattice before they made their own compiler | Jul 28 08:25 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz3: think about it 30 years of emulations for bugs that did exist. | Jul 28 08:25 |
| cubezzz3 | typical eh? :) | Jul 28 08:25 |
| oiaohm | That have been fixed. | Jul 28 08:25 |
| cubezzz3 | that's like early Xenix era | Jul 28 08:25 |
| oiaohm | Does that now explan why glibc is as huge as it is. | Jul 28 08:25 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah | Jul 28 08:25 |
| oiaohm | The new clean version would most likely take less than 5 megs of disk space. | Jul 28 08:26 |
| oiaohm | Very very good reason to draw line in sand. | Jul 28 08:26 |
| cubezzz3 | I wonder if SunOS was better | Jul 28 08:27 |
| cubezzz3 | 30 years ago it's like Fortran and Cobol and Basic | Jul 28 08:28 |
| oiaohm | Sun quite regularly drew lines in the sand. | Jul 28 08:28 |
| cubezzz3 | I don't think I saw any C compilers back then, maybe Unix cc only | Jul 28 08:28 |
| oiaohm | So there libc is no where near the nightmare. | Jul 28 08:28 |
| cubezzz3 | but not for microcomputer | Jul 28 08:28 |
| cubezzz3 | well posix is different | Jul 28 08:28 |
| cubezzz3 | I guess | Jul 28 08:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Repositories for Scientific Data - http://bit.ly/a0Sv3P "Scientific Data should be stored in domain-specific repositories" #opendata | Jul 28 08:31 | |
| cubezzz3 | PDP-11's back then | Jul 28 08:31 |
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| cubezzz3 | before my time :) | Jul 28 08:31 |
| MinceR | if you "draw a line in the sand", how do you make sure that recompiling old stuff still works? | Jul 28 08:32 |
| cubezzz3 | a lot of the time it doesn't | Jul 28 08:35 |
| MinceR | which means breaking compatibility on recompilation | Jul 28 08:36 |
| cubezzz3 | the more complex the old program, the less likely it would compile I'd say | Jul 28 08:36 |
| MinceR | (without recompilation you'll just have to link to an older major version, which still works) | Jul 28 08:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The issue of license proliferation - http://bit.ly/dnm9Lv not in software, but in content #cc #licensing | Jul 28 08:36 | |
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| cubezzz3 | well, I suppose you could tweak it | Jul 28 08:36 |
| cubezzz3 | just make sure it works by adjusting it until it worked | Jul 28 08:37 |
| cubezzz3 | eus doesn't work on modern Linux | Jul 28 08:37 |
| cubezzz3 | the libraries are quite different | Jul 28 08:37 |
| cubezzz3 | you probably could make it work though | Jul 28 08:37 |
| MinceR | eus? | Jul 28 08:38 |
| cubezzz3 | Eric's Ultimate Solitaire | Jul 28 08:38 |
| cubezzz3 | old Loki game | Jul 28 08:38 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 28 08:38 |
| cubezzz3 | but I have tons of old machines that run old Linux | Jul 28 08:38 |
| cubezzz3 | so it's not a big deal really | Jul 28 08:39 |
| cubezzz3 | no source code for Loki games naturally | Jul 28 08:39 |
| cubezzz3 | stuff I wrote myself, no problem | Jul 28 08:40 |
| cubezzz3 | unless it's totally different OS and I'm porting to it | Jul 28 08:40 |
| cubezzz3 | zaurus is different, AROS is different, Haiku is _really_ different | Jul 28 08:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Are Investment Ticker Symbols Covered By Trademark Law? - http://bit.ly/9WZeM2 we need to get beyond this obsession with owning stuff | Jul 28 08:41 | |
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| cubezzz3 | some Haiku or even AROS guys will say to me... | Jul 28 08:42 |
| cubezzz3 | "Why you running bloated OS like Linux?" | Jul 28 08:42 |
| cubezzz3 | but then I say "no, I'm running ancient Linux" ;) | Jul 28 08:42 |
| cubezzz3 | I mean I wouldn't run AROS for server but for just hacking around... it's not bad | Jul 28 08:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Worldreader.org - http://bit.ly/bQ6CVx ebooks for all. right idea, but can't believe Kindle is right technology; ebooks should be free ones | Jul 28 08:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | Linux isn't bloated | Jul 28 08:49 |
| oiaohm | Areas are DaemonFC | Jul 28 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | thousands of modules sitting around taking up a little bit of disk space don't matter much | Jul 28 08:50 |
| cubezzz3 | well they mean the distros are bloated I think | Jul 28 08:50 |
| oiaohm | Lot of work is going on to clean up the bloat. | Jul 28 08:50 |
| oiaohm | In kernel space there is bloat. | Jul 28 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | well, what's bad about distros is ones that include 5 programs to do everything with | Jul 28 08:51 |
| cubezzz3 | that's why I still run 2.2 | Jul 28 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | KDE isn't helping by keeping Konqueror around | Jul 28 08:51 |
| oiaohm | Even 2.2 has some bloat. | Jul 28 08:51 |
| cubezzz3 | oh? Like what? | Jul 28 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | everyone uses Firefox, or Chrome | Jul 28 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | KSCD has not point in life | Jul 28 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | Amarok plays CDs | Jul 28 08:51 |
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| cubezzz3 | yeah that's a different kind of bloat, redundancy bloat | Jul 28 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | Dragon Player is a waste, VLC is what people use | Jul 28 08:52 |
| cubezzz3 | everyone wants their program included | Jul 28 08:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] For An Industry Being Destroyed By 'File Sharing,' Film Industry Keeps Reporting Record Numbers - http://bit.ly/d2f7Mg again #cinema | Jul 28 08:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, it turns it into Linux: Vista Edition | Jul 28 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 28 08:52 |
| cubezzz3 | well you can install 2.2 in less than 60 megs | Jul 28 08:53 |
| cubezzz3 | still, it's not the smallest OS | Jul 28 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | every "special interest group: manages to pile in their little project until the overall thing becomes gigabytes of crap no real person would ever use | Jul 28 08:53 |
| cubezzz3 | you want X (usually) you want gcc, you want browser(s) | Jul 28 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | I was impressed by how much software OpenSuse packed onto their live CDs | Jul 28 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora never gets anywhere near that much | Jul 28 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | and still comes close to overrunning the CD | Jul 28 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | is compression just getting better or is Fedora bloating the hell out of the distro behind the scenes? | Jul 28 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | what are they using that space for? :P | Jul 28 08:55 |
| oiaohm | Trades of trades. | Jul 28 08:57 |
| oiaohm | Fedora default config is more server targeted than OpenSuse | Jul 28 08:58 |
| oiaohm | Both get about the same ammount of software per disk. | Jul 28 08:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] When I see the words "piracy" and "Android" in the same sentence < http://ur1.ca/0v1no > I know we need Free/OpenMoko, maybe MeeGo. #freedom | Jul 28 09:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody applications _are_ content | Jul 28 09:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @storming: RT @gmchar We did it! #guadec 2010 is the first conference to stream live in WebM! | Wow! Congrats! | Jul 28 09:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz I meant supposing this idea were applied more generally - music, films etc. - all calling back (been done, of course); bad idea | Jul 28 09:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] #openformats FTW! http://is.gd/dO5Wi #webm streaming of GUADEC. Very cool! | Jul 28 09:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody re "we need to get beyond this obsession with owning stuff" > owning stuff is OK, pretending words/ideas are "stuff" is not | Jul 28 09:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: For An Industry Being Destroyed By File Sharing, Industry Keeps Reporting Record Numbers http://bit.ly/d2f7Mg again #cinema | Jul 28 09:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody yes, but many of us groomed Android, which now cannibalises other Linux platforms and takes away freedoms (e.g. Motorola) | Jul 28 09:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz I think owning *lots* of physical stuff is problematic in a world with finite energy and resources: today, "more is more" | Jul 28 09:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] So What DMCA Exemption Requests Got Rejected? - http://bit.ly/bZDrCC GNU/Linux not the only one slighted in rulings #dmca | Jul 28 09:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz yes, it's something we need to resist | Jul 28 09:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody but another parameter is here population size | Jul 28 09:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz sure, but we're not doing too well there, either... | Jul 28 09:15 | |
| cubezzz3 | heh, well... | Jul 28 09:27 |
| cubezzz3 | circumvention isn't that hard | Jul 28 09:27 |
| cubezzz3 | it's not permitted but so what? | Jul 28 09:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody "we" the human species do quite OK actually. Nature+animals -- not so much... | Jul 28 09:28 | |
| cubezzz3 | oh btw our city council voted to not kill the beavers in the urban area | Jul 28 09:35 |
| cubezzz3 | 5-4 vote | Jul 28 09:35 |
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| schestowitz | Savio Rodrigues' stance on FOSS is terrible. http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source/openstack-will-not-kill-open-core-291 | Jul 28 09:49 |
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| schestowitz | He works for IBM and promotes proprietary disguised as "open" | Jul 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz | Since well......... years ago | Jul 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz | IDG employs him to write | Jul 28 09:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz true, although many humans are suffering from environmental degradation too... | Jul 28 10:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Court secrecy - http://bit.ly/aygLR5 "The courts are open but justice is a closed book" @newsbrooke battles for #openness again #uk | Jul 28 10:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've heard that MeeGo's plan may be just as restrictive as Android's http://ur1.ca/0v2dl | Jul 28 10:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Panasonic launches 3D camcorder for budding James Camerons - http://bit.ly/9u7bZI already? wow. wonder if it's any good... #3d #tv | Jul 28 10:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Immigration pushes EU population above 500 million - http://bit.ly/9WqneP Italy and UK top for influx #eu #immigration | Jul 28 10:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Will Adobe See the Light (of Day)? - http://bit.ly/ddKJHu what does Adobe's acquisition of Day mean for #Apache and #opensource? #adobe | Jul 28 10:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody combine that with negative growth rates in local EU population (most nations). #contraception | Jul 28 10:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz indeed; could be worse though...look at Russia and Japan... | Jul 28 10:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Software: What Exactly Can be Copyrighted? - http://bit.ly/ai050I a crucial issue for free software #copyright #freesw | Jul 28 10:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody good film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1OyIJtjdpo (Death of a Nation) | Jul 28 10:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz | Jul 28 10:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Brazilian Anti-Corruption Law in Effect This Year - http://bit.ly/9Gyx0S amazing, we need this everywhere #brazil #corruption | Jul 28 11:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Pirate Party Offers Servers and Hosting To Wikileaks - http://bit.ly/9T5Gcr marriage of minds #wikileaks #pirateparty | Jul 28 11:04 | |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: any press summary of it yet? | Jul 28 11:05 |
| amarsh04 | just a moment, schestowitz | Jul 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: it's hard excerpting meaningfully the court filing | Jul 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Telstra has some Microsoft on board | Jul 28 11:10 |
| amarsh04 | http://www.theage.com.au/business/telstra-cops-18m-fine-for-exchange-block-20100728-10uwx.html | Jul 28 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, they got fined? | Jul 28 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Interesting | Jul 28 11:12 |
| schestowitz | They also seem to block some FOSS as of late | Jul 28 11:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] pic of the week: Lord protect my child - http://bit.ly/9JAVHj brooding... #pix #london #b&w | Jul 28 11:12 | |
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| amarsh04 | they had a policy of obstructing legally obligated third-party access to space in their telephone exchanges | Jul 28 11:12 |
| *schestowitz files it under "Internet/Net Neutrality" | Jul 28 11:13 | |
| amarsh04 | back in a few, restarting session | Jul 28 11:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 28/7/2010: eBox Platform 1.5, $150 Linux-powered Tablet http://ur1.ca/0v33z I hope people accept the format of these summaries | Jul 28 11:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @PoliceStateUK Met considering whether to hold Harwood disciplinary hearing in public: http://bit.ly/aHmnyC #Tomlinson >>good precedent | Jul 28 11:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Are Not Copyrights, #Copyrights Are Not Patents http://ur1.ca/0v3da why the term "IP" is poisonous #ip #swpats | Jul 28 11:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open-source, software-based GSM cellphone network - http://bit.ly/cDN7Gi OpenBTS, of course #gsm #opensource #openbts | Jul 28 11:41 | |
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| schestowitz | tessier_: ping | Jul 28 11:52 |
| schestowitz | server issue | Jul 28 11:52 |
| tessier_ | Fixed it. | Jul 28 11:52 |
| schestowitz | THanks | Jul 28 11:52 |
| schestowitz | How would I fix it if it recurred? | Jul 28 11:52 |
| tessier_ | The proxy seemed to have an problem. It hasn't done that in ages. Need to figure out how to debug that. | Jul 28 11:52 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Jul 28 11:52 |
| tessier_ | I've got more of that stuff in nagios now so I get paged when it has an issue. | Jul 28 11:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What to Make of Apple... http://ur1.ca/0v3lm Should Free software supporters just let #Apple be? Should Apple be defended? | Jul 28 12:02 | |
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| schestowitz | >> Im having trouble searching for just odf formats, Did google remove the | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | >> ability. | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | >> In general im loosing it for Google, they support OS only when it suits | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | >> them. they really not our friends... | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > I spoke with someone from Google about 5 years ago, and commented to | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > them about the problems they were bringing in by hiring Microsofters. I | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > know it's bad to rag on a group all the time, but they do bring in a | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > foolish and foul way of thinking, on top of the low bar they set for | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > quality. | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > Also, the supply of skilled people is drying up. Not just in IT, but | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > the drought is especially hard in IT. | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > But as far as 'friends' go, they did become a publicly traded company a | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > few years ago. Now the two founders are divesting. Between the two, | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > there is a probability that Google will become stupider, worse, and more | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > ossified/corporate (non-functional). | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > But you're right, there are problems with it not indexing ODF and doing | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > a terribly poor job of it. For example, my documents are not indexed | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > despite being on the web a year, even though nearby HTML documents are | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > indexed. | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | It's true... | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Even some managers at Google came from Microsoft | Jul 28 12:04 |
| schestowitz | And Don Dodge | Jul 28 12:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] USPTO Seeks Comments On Post-Bilski Guidelines - http://bit.ly/cJWOdz sharpen your quills #uspto #bilski | Jul 28 12:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Interest in #SUSE is Decreasing http://ur1.ca/0v3z2 good news for #Ubuntu though #gnu #linux #server | Jul 28 12:34 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Interest in SUSE is Decreasing | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.39 KB | Jul 28 12:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Not All Lawsuits Are Direct and Not All Payments Are Direct, Either http://ur1.ca/0v44w #sco #Psystar #BayStar #t3 #microsoft #ibm | Jul 28 12:37 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Not All Lawsuits Are Direct and Not All Payments Are Direct, Either | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.4 KB | Jul 28 12:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] a tendor document of Delhi University says, - 'Installing OpenSource (freeware) Linux Application' #fail | Jul 28 12:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Music Publishers Demanding Musicians Hand Over More Rights - http://bit.ly/cd6Nv0 this was utterly predictable #recording #rights | Jul 28 12:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] European Court Issues Gene Patent Ruling Against Monsanto—A Myriad Connection? - http://bit.ly/9JHgHv clear & detailed #genepatents | Jul 28 12:48 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: European Court Issues Gene Patent Ruling Against Monsanto—A Myriad Connection? .::. Size~: 55.02 KB | Jul 28 12:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya depending on the context it could be right | Jul 28 12:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] News from Jakarta. Mandatory State use of ODF coming in 2011. http://bit.ly/9hWibY | Jul 28 12:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] ModelForge - Web 2.0 for sharing software objects - http://bit.ly/aqYnMK "You can have competing models, everything’s open"; from #SAP, too | Jul 28 12:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @rcweir News from Jakarta. Mandatory State use of #ODF coming in 2011. http://bit.ly/9hWibY > oh noes! they "restrict choice" /sarcasm | Jul 28 13:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @rcweir News from Jakarta. Mandatory State use of ODF coming in 2011. http://bit.ly/9hWibY > oh noes! they "restrict choice" /sarcasm | Jul 28 13:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] China's Three Gorges dam close to limit as heavy rains persist - http://bit.ly/cJBR6f "And finally, monsieur, a wafer-thin mint." #china | Jul 28 13:04 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: detikInet : Dokumen Negara Wajib Gunakan Format ODF .::. Size~: 74.52 KB | Jul 28 13:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] text to pdf - cat filename.txt | a2ps --no-header -1 --borders=0 -o filename.ps ; ps2pdf filename.ps filename.pdf #bash | Jul 28 13:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Rocknerd: My Album Cover Lifestyle. http://rocknerd.co.uk/2010/07/27/my-album-cover-lifestyle/ | Jul 28 13:10 | |
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| schestowitz | "Now, the Tata Steel takeover of Corus, or Hindalco's acquisition of Novell, or Tata Motors buying the Jaguar and Land Rover companies is no longer fraught ..." Huh? http://sphauth.asiaone.com/amserver/cdcservlet?goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businesstimes.com.sg%3A80%2Fmnt%2Fhtml%2Fbtpre%2Fregistration%2Fredirect.jsp%3Fdlink%3D%2Fsub%2Fviews%2Fstory%2F0%2C4574%2C396264%2C00.html%26sunwMethod%3DGET&RequestID=16294&MajorVersion=1& | Jul 28 13:12 |
| schestowitz | MinorVersion=0&ProviderID=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businesstimes.com.sg%3A80%2Famagent&IssueInstant=2010-07-28T20%3A05%3A08Z | Jul 28 13:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UK.gov's phone and net snooping hits record high - http://bit.ly/8ZaDXw "I cannot give a precise reason for this" #surveillance | Jul 28 13:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Watch the front cover of China Computerworld http://www.geekosystem.com/chinese-magazine-f-bomb/ #idg | Jul 28 13:48 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: "F***ing Tencent" - China Computerworld Cover | Geekosystem .::. Size~: 34.23 KB | Jul 28 13:48 |
| schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/397531/ | Jul 28 14:05 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The President and Vice-Chancellor of our university has just died. This is very sad. | Jul 28 14:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] TuxMachines is down again for several hours (rare thing). Second time this month. I wonder what the cause is. | Jul 28 14:31 | |
| schestowitz | http://cgoncalves.blogspot.com/2010/07/ended-up-to-buy-apple.html "For those concerned about my devotion to the FOSS world and specially my openSUSE and KDE eccentricity, than there is nothing to you worry about! I'm still the very same guy you used to know. I just needed a laptop with the features I have stated above and that ended up to be an Apple Macbook." | Jul 28 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Carlos Gonçalves: Ended up buying an Apple... .::. Size~: 56.4 KB | Jul 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz | OpenSUSE->Apple | Jul 28 14:44 |
| MinceR | from the "couldn't be bothered to try a distro that doesn't suck" crowd | Jul 28 14:52 |
| MinceR | geekings | Jul 28 14:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Now installing VLC 1.1.1 on karmic 9.10 because it has support for webm playback #vlc #karmic | Jul 28 15:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Now installing VLC 1.1.1 on karmic 9.10 because it has support for webm playback #vlc #karmic http://bit.ly/d0h8nJ | Jul 28 15:05 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Install VLC 1.1.1 in Ubuntu 10.04/9.10 using PPA | Ubuntu Geek .::. Size~: 38.21 KB | Jul 28 15:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] #mustread for #swpat peeps: http://is.gd/dOJ6f "These entrepreneurs rate patents as the least important mechanism" | Jul 28 15:29 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Why software startups decide to patent ... or not - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 49.45 KB | Jul 28 15:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: Installing Lotus Notes on 64-bit Ubuntu, for people who really hate themselves. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/540816.html | Jul 28 15:31 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: reddragdiva | Installing Lotus Notes on 64-bit Ubuntu, for people who really hate themselves. .::. Size~: 29.77 KB | Jul 28 15:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] For next time some foolish person tells you homeopathy or other alt.med works on animals: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=263 | Jul 28 15:33 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Science-Based Medicine » Is There a Placebo Effect for Animals? .::. Size~: 82.56 KB | Jul 28 15:33 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/43873048#notice-44208638 "we'll fix that, besides, the big goal for us all should be windows users shouldn't it ;-)" | Jul 28 15:34 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.79 KB | Jul 28 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Oh, the marketing KDE guy is from SUSE/Novell?? | Jul 28 15:34 |
| schestowitz | we'll fix that, besides, the big goal for us all should be windows users shouldn't it ;-) | Jul 28 15:34 |
| zoobab | pong | Jul 28 15:34 |
| schestowitz | hey | Jul 28 15:37 |
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| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/jQZhf/ | Jul 28 15:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Best. Corporate. Description. Ever. http://is.gd/dONLD #newkind | Jul 28 16:13 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Our Work .::. Size~: 5.81 KB | Jul 28 16:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Know Features of VLC http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.php?cat=input | Jul 28 16:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] Interesting review of N900 - http://is.gd/dOOe3 | Jul 28 16:19 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Nokia N900, the ultimate smartphone? - Circlestorm Blog .::. Size~: 38.84 KB | Jul 28 16:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] British Computer Society (BCS) Still Serves Agenda of Large Multinationals http://ur1.ca/0v7ht #bcs #EGM #fud #opensource | Jul 28 16:26 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: British Computer Society (BCS) Still Serves Agenda of Large Multinationals | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.13 KB | Jul 28 16:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Motorola sez Droid X better than iPhone4, bc Droid gets good reception, case or nno case, unlike iPhone http://bit.ly/9MEPch | Jul 28 16:34 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: New Droid X ad hits Apple where it hurts --- on iPhone 4 antenna woes - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 58.91 KB | Jul 28 16:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #USPTO Wants Feedback About Post- #Bilski Guidelines, #EPO Might Let Monsanto Patent Life http://ur1.ca/0v7u1 #swpats #gmo #monsanto | Jul 28 16:42 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: USPTO Wants Feedback About Post-Bilski Guidelines, EPO Might Let Monsanto Patent Life | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.87 KB | Jul 28 16:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Indonesia is Moving to OpenDocument Format (ODF) http://techrights.org/2010/07/28/government-indonesia-odf/ | Jul 28 16:58 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Indonesia is Moving to OpenDocument Format (ODF) | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.19 KB | Jul 28 16:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Novell 's #Mono Mob Operates http://techrights.org/2010/07/28/novell-feedback-about-mono/ | Jul 28 17:23 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: How Novells Mono Mob Operates | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.36 KB | Jul 28 17:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Why software startups decide to patent or not: Berkeley Patent Survey finds first-mover advantage trumps patents http://ur1.ca/0v92y | Jul 28 17:51 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Why software startups decide to patent ... or not - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 49.45 KB | Jul 28 17:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Study on the Interplay between Standards and Intellectual Property Rights (IPRs) http://ur1.ca/0v967 | Jul 28 18:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Migration Disinformation Claimed in Los Angeles, California http://techrights.org/2010/07/28/google-in-la/ | Jul 28 18:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Genome Nobelist: The hard numbers of population growth - http://bit.ly/9sjoCN that's Sir John Sulston, still waiting for his second Nobel... | Jul 28 18:11 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Genome Nobelist: The hard numbers of population growth - opinion - 28 July 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 57.98 KB | Jul 28 18:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How can I load firefox the only application at system startup. Sometimes I do not want to load whole gnome-desktop | Jul 28 18:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] A sustainable future for open textbooks? The Flat World Knowledge story - http://bit.ly/aM0g6Q interesting #ebooks #education | Jul 28 18:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO still grant software patents: EP0961184 - System for use in a field device management http://ur1.ca/0v9cp | Jul 28 18:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] IPWatch: USPTO Seeks Comments On Post-Bilski Guidelines http://ur1.ca/0v9bu | Jul 28 18:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] USPTO asking input on Bilski: "Any member of the public may submit written comments on the Interim Bilski Guidance" http://ur1.ca/0v9eb | Jul 28 18:22 | |
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| sebsebseb | Cuana: hi | Jul 28 18:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] In the #IBM #antitrust case, #Microsoft matters only as a precedent http://bit.ly/9l8gjm #EU #mainframe | Jul 28 18:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Promotes — Then Disses — #FogComputing http://techrights.org/2010/07/28/cloud-and-novell-pr/ #saas #google #server | Jul 28 18:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I am now swimming with gst-launch #code | Jul 28 19:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I oppose mediaelementsjs.com - Its a trap to stick us(web) on H264. Do not use it as we have webm and Ogg http://mediaelementjs.com/ #fail | Jul 28 19:05 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: MediaElement.js - HTML5 video player in CSS with Flash and Silverlight fallbacks .::. Size~: 5.59 KB | Jul 28 19:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I propose if you make "Email a word per day" for translation then we can complete GNU/Linux localization very fast #gnu/linux #localisation | Jul 28 19:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Amazed to see Arduino projects http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Projects/ArduinoUsers #arduino #project #hobbyist | Jul 28 19:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] for those who love Python & Arduino http://www.pyaler.org/ http://www.pyaler.org | Jul 28 19:20 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Pyaler: Control your Arduino through RESTful API .::. Size~: 2.59 KB | Jul 28 19:20 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] :. It is a great day to dine :. | Jul 28 19:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] ASCAP Boss Refuses To Debate Lessig; Claims That It's An Attempt To 'Silence' ASCAP - http://bit.ly/d0SDE9 usual thorough debunking #ascap | Jul 28 19:23 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ASCAP Boss Refuses To Debate Lessig; Claims That It's An Attempt To 'Silence' ASCAP | Techdirt .::. Size~: 29.98 KB | Jul 28 19:23 |
| MinceR | No Mr. Bond, I expect you to dine. | Jul 28 19:24 |
| Cuana | Mr.Bond never dies | Jul 28 19:26 |
| Cuana | Never say never and Never say Never Again | Jul 28 19:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] DE Act: could the UK Parliament revisit it? - http://bit.ly/cbYcy7 useful review of All Party Parliamentary Group on Digital Economy #deact | Jul 28 19:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SUSE Gallery an Increasingly Rare Case of Novell’s SUSE Promotion http://ur1.ca/0v9yy #opensuse #gnu #linux | Jul 28 19:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SUSE Gallery an Increasingly Rare Case of Novell’s SUSE Promotion http://ur1.ca/0v9yy #opensuse #gnu #linux | Jul 28 19:32 | |
| MinceR | Never Again Say Never Again | Jul 28 19:32 |
| MinceR | Never Say "Never Say Never" | Jul 28 19:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @fiete_stegers Downloadbare Videos bei tagesschau.de nun in unterschiedlichen Formaten - inklusive OGG. Beispiel: http://bit.ly/d2OhWC | Jul 28 19:33 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Aldi-Mitgründer Theo Albrecht ist tot | tagesschau.de .::. Size~: 47.46 KB | Jul 28 19:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @BarackObama In ways big and small, we are ushering in a new era of open and accountable government. http://j.mp/btrjdz | Jul 28 19:34 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: President Obama and Vice President Biden’s Daily Public Schedules Now Online | The White House .::. Size~: 34.37 KB | Jul 28 19:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @afromusing Feeling almost weepy. Ushahidi community & partners coming together for #Uchaguzi FOSS is magic, collaboration - global. | Jul 28 19:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab EPO still grant software patents: EP0961184 - System for use in a field device management http://ur1.ca/0v9cp #swpats | Jul 28 19:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Billionaire polluter David Koch: Global warming is good for you - http://bit.ly/94TKTP Mr K's a strong argument against excessive wealth | Jul 28 19:44 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Billionaire polluter David Koch: Global warming is good for you « Climate Progress .::. Size~: 58.81 KB | Jul 28 19:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Leaked report on Land grabs - http://bit.ly/aK4yoV a growing scandal that is going to kill a lot of people #landgrabs #neocolonialism | Jul 28 19:46 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Leaked report on Land grabs | Raj Patel .::. Size~: 28.94 KB | Jul 28 19:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Why a Uyghur Journalist Was Sentenced 15 Years - http://bit.ly/cDZZow because Chinese gov. wants to make their flesh creep... #uighurs | Jul 28 19:52 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: » Why a Uyghur Journalist Was Sentenced 15 Years | Xinjiang: Far West China .::. Size~: 39.79 KB | Jul 28 19:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @techdirt: British Library Worries That Copyright May Be Hindering Research http://dlvr.it/36rGF | Jul 28 19:55 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: British Library Worries That Copyright May Be Hindering Research | Techdirt .::. Size~: 47.25 KB | Jul 28 19:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10465915 | Jul 28 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://searchengineland.com/google-sewage-factory-the-chocomize-story-47403 | Jul 28 20:08 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Google Sewage Factory, In Action: The Chocomize Story .::. Size~: 48.37 KB | Jul 28 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Why do they accuse Google? | Jul 28 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/7/28/100-million-facebook-pages-leaked-torrent-site/ | Jul 28 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: 100 million Facebook pages leaked on torrent site | THINQ.co.uk .::. Size~: 32.07 KB | Jul 28 20:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 'God mode' Facebook for all who have a torrent client http://ur1.ca/0vabs Basically, Microsoft too already gets access to all FB data | Jul 28 20:16 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: 100 million Facebook pages leaked on torrent site | THINQ.co.uk .::. Size~: 32.07 KB | Jul 28 20:16 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: "No company has more software patents than we do, so we are the most prolific company in the world in terms of software invention." --IBM | Jul 28 20:24 |
| schestowitz | http://enterpriseapplications.cbronline.com/features/qa-with-ibms-steve-mills-280710 | Jul 28 20:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Swpats in Australia: Grant went on to say that a change in the state or memory of a computer may be a “physical effect” http://ur1.ca/0vadz | Jul 28 20:24 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Patent Baristas » Australian Patent Office Refines Test for Patentability of Business Methods .::. Size~: 48.74 KB | Jul 28 20:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: #Swpat in Australia: Grant went on to say that change in state or memory of computer may be 'physical effect' http://ur1.ca/0vadz | Jul 28 20:35 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Patent Baristas » Australian Patent Office Refines Test for Patentability of Business Methods .::. Size~: 48.75 KB | Jul 28 20:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @dpic: Reject UltraViolet: a new #DRM scheme from Sony, Toshiba, Microsoft and Intel www.reddit.com/tb/cuqe7 #dbd | Jul 28 20:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @lessig: ASCAP's Williams has declined my offer to debate. Claims I'm trying to "silence" him. http://huff.to/a6CX7g | Jul 28 20:39 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Lawrence Lessig: ASCAP's attack on Creative Commons .::. Size~: 188.81 KB | Jul 28 20:39 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Foxconn tries to kill 250 people with pesticide http://u.nu/5y52e | Jul 28 20:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab: #Swpat in Australia: Grant went on to say that change in state or memory of computer may be 'physical effect' http://ur1.ca/0vadz | Jul 28 20:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra ♺ @lessig: ASCAP's Williams has declined my offer to debate. Claims I'm trying to "silence" him. http://huff.to/a6CX7g | Jul 28 20:53 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Patent Baristas » Australian Patent Office Refines Test for Patentability of Business Methods .::. Size~: 48.81 KB | Jul 28 20:53 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Lawrence Lessig: ASCAP's attack on Creative Commons .::. Size~: 189.54 KB | Jul 28 20:53 |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/07/gnome-3-not-ready-yet-release-pushed-back-to-2011.ars | Jul 28 21:02 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cops pay $7 million settlement because they shot (50 times) an unarmed groom coming out of his bachelor party http://u.nu/7472e #policestate | Jul 28 21:11 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Plaintiffs: NYC settlement of 50-shot case is fair - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 122.62 KB | Jul 28 21:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 28/7/2010: #Linux Mint 9 #KDE is Out, #GNOME 3 Delayed http://techrights.org/2010/07/28/linux-mint-9-kde/ | Jul 28 21:22 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Links 28/7/2010: Linux Mint 9 KDE is Out, GNOME 3 Delayed | Techrights .::. Size~: 117.85 KB | Jul 28 21:22 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Appoints Leading Member of the #KDE Marketing Team as #OpenSUSE Community Manager http://ur1.ca/0vb7l congrats, Jos #suse | Jul 28 22:01 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Novell Appoints Leading Member of the KDE Marketing Team as OpenSUSE Community Manager | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.79 KB | Jul 28 22:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] After AstroTurfing, #Microsoft Complains About Monopoly http://ur1.ca/0vbck #google #yahoo #hypocrisy | Jul 28 22:15 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: After AstroTurfing, Microsoft Complains About Monopoly | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.64 KB | Jul 28 22:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM Brags About Software Patents, Just Like #Novell http://ur1.ca/0vbix #swpats #bigblue #patents #monopoly | Jul 28 22:39 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: IBM Brags About Software Patents, Just Like Novell | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.05 KB | Jul 28 22:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @doctorow your take? http://is.gd/dPqoa accuses #boingboing of ignoring CC-NC clause. | Jul 28 22:48 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Slashdot Ask Slashdot Story | What To Do About CC License Violations? .::. Size~: 165.86 KB | Jul 28 22:48 |
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| neighborlee | Nice to hear < regardless of reason atm> ubuntu coming to their senses on mono ;0-0 < I hope they follow through with tomboy>gnotes, and 'gbrainy' ;0 | Jul 28 22:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 'Harmonisation' Tricks in NZ; TechInsights Explains How to 'Cheat' and Patent Software http://ur1.ca/0vbre #techinsights #swpats #patents | Jul 28 23:07 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Harmonisation Tricks Down Under; TechInsights Explains How to Cheat and Patent Software | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.36 KB | Jul 28 23:07 |
| cubevector | trying gnash again | Jul 28 23:12 |
| cubevector | needs qt4 though | Jul 28 23:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] To #Microsoft , #Silverlight is Not #Moonlight and the World is Binary http://ur1.ca/0vbv0 #mono #novell #meego | Jul 28 23:22 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: To Microsoft, Silverlight is Not Moonlight and the World is x86 Binary | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.44 KB | Jul 28 23:22 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jul 28 23:31 |
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| cubevector | Swfdec is not small | Jul 28 23:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @webmink: Oracle shuts down its three PostgreSQL build farm servers without warning: http://icio.us/xwxdwo | Jul 28 23:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft’s insecure-by-design products allow the camera to be remotely activated for spying http://ur1.ca/0vbyc #windows | Jul 28 23:36 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Oracle shuts down open source test servers - Software - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au .::. Size~: 71.69 KB | Jul 28 23:36 |
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| MinceR | what's postgresql doing at oracle? | Jul 28 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | same thing Solaris is doing | Jul 28 23:42 |
| cubevector | MinceR, you sure don't sleep very long :) | Jul 28 23:42 |
| *Cuana is now known as Wulf-is-not-here | Jul 28 23:42 | |
| DaemonFC | microsleep | Jul 28 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsleep | Jul 28 23:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsleep - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 48.01 KB | Jul 28 23:42 |
| MinceR | hur hur | Jul 28 23:43 |
| cubevector | Oracle may be trying to become the Microsoft 2.0 | Jul 28 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | I can't understand why they don't just GPL ZFS | Jul 28 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | and call it good | Jul 28 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | why reinvent the file system again? :P | Jul 28 23:49 |
| tessier_ | DaemonFC: Because Sun wanted to hurt Linux | Jul 28 23:51 |
| cubevector | well you can run it, just not in kernelspace | Jul 28 23:52 |
| tessier_ | Which is pretty useless... | Jul 28 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle owns ZFS now | Jul 28 23:52 |
| cubevector | if you want Sun, buy a Sun :) | Jul 28 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | if they're going to kill Solaris, why trash ZFS? | Jul 28 23:52 |
| tessier_ | Who says they are killing Solaris? | Jul 28 23:53 |
| tessier_ | They are killing OpenSolaris apparently. | Jul 28 23:53 |
| tessier_ | I haven't heard anything about killing commercial solaris though. | Jul 28 23:53 |
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| tessier_ | They won't GPL ZFS until they figure out how to make maximum money from doing so. | Jul 28 23:54 |
| cubevector | we are seeing software convergence | Jul 28 23:55 |
| cubevector | in the end it will probably be: Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris, and whatever IBM uses | Jul 28 23:55 |
| cubevector | oh and I guess BSD, and all the fringe ones :) | Jul 28 23:56 |
| cubevector | AROS, Haiku are interesting | Jul 28 23:56 |
| tessier_ | CoyotOS is interesting also | Jul 28 23:56 |
| tessier_ | AROS or EROS? | Jul 28 23:56 |
| cubevector | AROS | Jul 28 23:56 |
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| tessier_ | http://www.coyotos.org/ | Jul 28 23:57 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Coyotos Secure Operating System .::. Size~: 3.9 KB | Jul 28 23:57 |
| *DaemonFC kills AT&T | Jul 28 23:57 | |
| cubevector | maybe there is EROS as well, don't know | Jul 28 23:57 |
| tessier_ | CoyotOS descended from EROS | Jul 28 23:57 |
| cubevector | oh well AROS is from AmigaOS 3.1 | Jul 28 23:57 |
| tessier_ | Ok, different then | Jul 28 23:57 |
| cubevector | http://aros.sourceforge.net/ | Jul 28 23:58 |
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| tessier_ | Nice recursive acronym | Jul 28 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | Adobe is the biggest pain in the ass | Jul 28 23:59 |
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