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| schestowitz | This looks like a nice computer, but this thing which holds it scares me. http://www.i4u.com/article36678.html | Aug 03 00:00 |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: $35 Linux Tablet unveiled in India .::. Size~: 25.9 KB | Aug 03 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Look at the face he makes | Aug 03 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Add the caption | Aug 03 00:01 |
| _Goblin | Right..im off "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast" | Aug 03 00:01 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, a $35 tablet computer. Will be hard for MS to make any money on that. | Aug 03 00:02 |
| MinceR | suddenly it becomes a $135 tablet computer | Aug 03 00:03 |
| MinceR | comes with vista7 Useless Edition | Aug 03 00:03 |
| cubezzz3 | what about the $10 laptop? | Aug 03 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | all ms editions contain the uselss feature | Aug 03 00:03 |
| cubezzz3 | just disappeared I guess | Aug 03 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *useless | Aug 03 00:03 |
| MinceR | and just now, at the extra special low low price of $1000 you can upgrade it to vista7 Slightly Less Useless Edition | Aug 03 00:03 |
| MinceR | cubezzz3: perhaps someone paid for it to not be produced, ever | Aug 03 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | is it any wonder that MS stock is starting to tank? | Aug 03 00:05 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah a lot of companies would be effected if they could really pull it off | Aug 03 00:05 |
| cubezzz3 | msft is actually up a bit | Aug 03 00:05 |
| cubezzz3 | but flat over the last 10 years | Aug 03 00:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | give then time | Aug 03 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | them | Aug 03 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer will save them.......................lol | Aug 03 00:06 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 03 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The glory and greed days of MS, are over | Aug 03 00:07 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Freedom Haters Back 'On Board' http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=831 | Aug 03 00:07 | |
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| MinceR | the greed days of m$ are never over | Aug 03 00:09 |
| MinceR | but at least they're going down already | Aug 03 00:09 |
| *WireWulf is now known as Wulf-is-not-here | Aug 03 00:11 | |
| cubezzz3 | well, maybe once the OEMs show some guts | Aug 03 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS has been on a gradual decline now for several years. I put the start of the decline when the blaster worm hit. Some say it was the advent of Vista, which certainly accelerated it. Others say it was when the DOJ went after them, or when Ballmer took over. | Aug 03 00:13 |
| cubezzz3 | Stallman -> GNU with GCC -> Internet -> Linux | Aug 03 00:14 |
| cubezzz3 | not just Microsoft's mistakes | Aug 03 00:14 |
| cubezzz3 | and we had 386BSD since July 1992 | Aug 03 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Internet? | Aug 03 00:14 |
| schestowitz | You mean GNU software on the WWW/FTP? | Aug 03 00:14 |
| cubezzz3 | yes, since then programmers could collaborate | Aug 03 00:15 |
| cubezzz3 | easily | Aug 03 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 03 00:15 |
| schestowitz | T'so was #3, no? | Aug 03 00:15 |
| schestowitz | This year there is no IDG opensourceworld or linuxworld | Aug 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Do they have that "cloud" crap instead? | Aug 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Usually in August | Aug 03 00:18 |
| MinceR | or just IDG isn't even pretending to care about FLOSS any more | Aug 03 00:19 |
| MinceR | they did start to mess with Phoronix after all | Aug 03 00:19 |
| MinceR | gn | Aug 03 00:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @sil: This is how life oughta be. Up late, beer and crisps, head fizzing with ideas, code and rock music. Love it. | Aug 03 00:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just installed an update of Unity and it is really feeling slick - Neil and co. are doing a rocking job! #ubuntu | Aug 03 00:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Milkman's Son by Ugly Kid Joe just came on in Rhythmbox, reminds me of being 15, zits, growing my hair long, and lusting after guitars. | Aug 03 00:53 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.fragland.net/news/Over-10-million-360s-in-2010/23817/ "Microsoft sent about 10,3 million units of the Xbox360 to stores in their fiscal year 2010, compared to 11,2 million the year before. This brings the total amount up to 41,7 million since launch." | Aug 03 01:12 |
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| DaemonFC | Pinta works on Mandriva now :) | Aug 03 01:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Severed Fifth Android App release and code available - developers wanted! Can you help? http://soc.li/QoW8CRK #severedfifth | Aug 03 02:19 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Read the comments on this link, where have all the MS Shills gone? http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/07/29/ballmer_awake_at_night/ | Aug 03 02:26 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | comments were from this link http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/29/ballmer_awake_at_night/ | Aug 03 02:27 |
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| cubezzz3 | I think Microsoft got KO-ed on the pads | Aug 03 02:31 |
| cubezzz3 | it's a bit surprising how many young people bought a luxury item like the iphone though | Aug 03 02:31 |
| cubezzz3 | but then again, perhaps it's not that surprising | Aug 03 02:32 |
| cubezzz3 | younger people are more easily influenced by marketing | Aug 03 02:32 |
| cubezzz3 | I saw a 2.4 phone the other day | Aug 03 02:33 |
| cubezzz3 | some Motorola phone | Aug 03 02:33 |
| ThistleWeb | on a bizarre note, did ya see the story about who was downloading the facebook user data from TPB? and one large corp missing from the list was Microsoft, which made me think "well, they missed that boat too lol" rather than any ethical reason to say "we're not doing that" | Aug 03 02:36 |
| cubezzz3 | in the 80's and 90's Microsoft was good for stockholders | Aug 03 02:37 |
| cubezzz3 | I guess if you owned stock during that time, you could feel OK about Microsoft | Aug 03 02:39 |
| cubezzz3 | say you made $30K off it or more | Aug 03 02:39 |
| cubezzz3 | in the 80's the FOSS movement was almost invisible | Aug 03 02:40 |
| cubezzz3 | but really the software wasn't very good | Aug 03 02:40 |
| cubezzz3 | but in retrospect, I'm glad I never owned any Microsoft stock | Aug 03 02:42 |
| cubezzz3 | I remember people looking at Xenix and saying they didn't like it | Aug 03 02:45 |
| cubezzz3 | then Unix System V, same | Aug 03 02:45 |
| cubezzz3 | they liked Amiga, they liked Atari | Aug 03 02:45 |
| cubezzz3 | none of it was FOSS though | Aug 03 02:45 |
| cubezzz3 | compilers? $200 or more | Aug 03 02:45 |
| cubezzz3 | often, no comptuer store would even stock a compiler! | Aug 03 02:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] "All governments are in a continuum of tyranny" | Indy http://bit.ly/aDe9ie | Aug 03 02:46 | |
| cubezzz3 | and the idea of getting the source code of the compiler itself? NO way | Aug 03 02:46 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Wikileaks in an obedience culture | PowerOfNarrative http://bit.ly/cF0JcH | Aug 03 02:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Hundreds protest bombing in Kabul | VOA http://bit.ly/bP9rOc | Aug 03 03:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Found a cool #drupal tutorial screencast mustardseedmedia.com/podcast | Aug 03 03:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Do confession booths have glory holes? It'd be more honest, and maybe get some more converts ;) | Aug 03 03:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Just finished primary drums for the 11th and last song on the new album. Album is about 53mins long. :-) #severedfifth | Aug 03 05:18 | |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/315851 "you gotta wonder why, RIGHT AFTER that very issue was addressed, why pcpro thinks the most important thing about rms is that he was RUDE to someone ELEVEN YEARS AGO. morons at work- wankers at least. i'll take integrity over politeness on most days" | Aug 03 06:10 |
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| cubezzz3 | interesting quote: | Aug 03 06:17 |
| cubezzz3 | "I don't believe that the desktop Linux market share is barely 1%. I think it is a lot higher. I have no good data to share; I base my assessment on experience and knowing the industry. There is something else that is even more persuasive, and that is how Microsoft behaves. If Linux is so insignificant, why do they pay so much attention to it? | Aug 03 06:17 |
| cubezzz3 | —Carla Schroder, Linux Today" | Aug 03 06:17 |
| schestowitz | True | Aug 03 06:25 |
| MinceR | 032831 < ThistleWeb> on a bizarre note, did ya see the story about who was downloading the facebook user data from TPB? and one large corp missing from the list was Microsoft, which made | Aug 03 06:32 |
| MinceR | me think "well, they missed that boat too lol" rather than any ethical reason to say "we're not doing that" | Aug 03 06:32 |
| MinceR | it's "we already have it all, duh" | Aug 03 06:32 |
| cubezzz3 | I'm looking at pizzabox Sun boxes | Aug 03 06:36 |
| cubezzz3 | trying to get at least one proper desktop that is non-x86 | Aug 03 06:36 |
| cubezzz3 | I haven't looked at a pc magazine in ages | Aug 03 06:37 |
| cubezzz3 | in the old days there was compute! magazine | Aug 03 06:39 |
| cubezzz3 | it was more interesting than current magazines | Aug 03 06:39 |
| cubezzz3 | more programmer oriented | Aug 03 06:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | "RUDE to someone ELEVEN YEARS AGO" | Aug 03 06:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | shit dude | Aug 03 06:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | I was rude to someone eleven minutes ago | Aug 03 06:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @yoonkit Indonesia has done it! Mandatory use of #ODF for vendor independence http://bit.ly/cwGuSf by end 2011 all govt depts to use OSS | Aug 03 06:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 3/8/2010: MeeGo 1.0 IVI for Cars, OLPC Partners in Sri Lanka http://techrights.org/2010/08/03/olpc-partners-in-sri-lanka/ | Aug 03 07:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @yoonkit Indonesia has done it! Mandatory use of #ODF for vendor independence http://bit.ly/cwGuSf by end 2011 all govt depts to use OSS | Aug 03 07:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] Big tech problem as still-indispensable mainframes outlast workforce http://bit.ly/cwmkyM via @bw "aging corps of baby boomers" | Aug 03 08:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Will Wired Proclaim 'The Web is Dead?' - http://bit.ly/dczZPA ah, yes, that prescient "Push" article... #wired #tired | Aug 03 08:07 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Carbon Glazed - http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=854 | Aug 03 08:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Windows 7 overtakes Windows Vista in market share - http://bit.ly/dxj2qe but WinXP still miles ahead #windows #winxp | Aug 03 08:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] How Sinar Mas is expanding its empires of destruction - http://bit.ly/bTo2ta clearly aiming to become one of the most evil companies... | Aug 03 08:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] pic of the week: Balcony test - http://bit.ly/c8AAX8 Paris in London #pix #london | Aug 03 08:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Live in London? Use Android to find a Cycle Hire. - http://bit.ly/as9OMq rather cool idea #android #london #bikes | Aug 03 08:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Amid Fraud Allegations, Gates Foundation Ownership in Wells Fargo Surfaces http://techrights.org/2010/08/03/gates-investments-are-named/ | Aug 03 08:55 | |
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| tessier_ | Funny mainframes came up in the links a while ago... | Aug 03 08:56 |
| tessier_ | I just put three mainframe books on my amazon wishlist. | Aug 03 08:56 |
| tessier_ | No wonder I'm confused...that short url links to page 2 of the article. | Aug 03 09:05 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Going to HyD for conference. Now searching classmates who is living in HyD. | Aug 03 09:12 | |
| cubezzz3 | I worked on IBM 4831 | Aug 03 09:19 |
| tessier_ | cool | Aug 03 09:20 |
| cubezzz3 | but compared to modern mainframes that's nothing :) | Aug 03 09:20 |
| cubezzz3 | it was kind of cool | Aug 03 09:20 |
| cubezzz3 | xedit, cms, rexx were all interesting | Aug 03 09:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates Foundation Staff and Affiliates Enter School Boards in the United States http://ur1.ca/0zm1o #education | Aug 03 09:20 | |
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| cubezzz3 | I don't see any editors on PC with a prefix window | Aug 03 09:21 |
| cubezzz3 | the monitors were rather boring | Aug 03 09:22 |
| cubezzz3 | just monochrome terminals | Aug 03 09:22 |
| tessier_ | Google really doesn't have anything on the IBM 4831. Weird. | Aug 03 09:24 |
| cubezzz3 | IBM has some pages | Aug 03 09:26 |
| cubezzz3 | http://a1.vox.com/6a00c2251e13128e1d00fa9687c3710003-500pi | Aug 03 09:26 |
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| cubezzz3 | not very interesting pic :) | Aug 03 09:27 |
| cubezzz3 | http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP4381.html | Aug 03 09:27 |
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| cubezzz3 | it was around 1986 | Aug 03 09:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @aseigo @jonobacon and you know what? greg apologizes, shares the source of his pain .. Mark says "cool, thanks. and here's the cool ... | Aug 03 09:29 | |
| cubezzz3 | not as cool looking as an IBM 701 :) | Aug 03 09:29 |
| cubezzz3 | no C language, just Cobol | Aug 03 09:31 |
| cubezzz3 | JCL | Aug 03 09:32 |
| cubezzz3 | a weird thing about the 80's, a lot of places used APL | Aug 03 09:33 |
| tessier_ | A Programming Language | Aug 03 09:34 |
| tessier_ | Go Iverson! | Aug 03 09:34 |
| cubezzz3 | now, if you've ever used APL you will know it's the funkiest language out there | Aug 03 09:34 |
| tessier_ | I'd like to have an APL keyboard. | Aug 03 09:34 |
| cubezzz3 | you can :) | Aug 03 09:34 |
| cubezzz3 | their expensive, but you can get them on ebay | Aug 03 09:35 |
| cubezzz3 | they're | Aug 03 09:35 |
| cubezzz3 | I wonder if anyone still uses 4381 | Aug 03 09:36 |
| cubezzz3 | there's a nice IBM 9370 on ebay :) | Aug 03 09:46 |
| cubezzz3 | for some crazy person | Aug 03 09:46 |
| tessier_ | That's odd looking. Must be missing some parts of the enclosure or something. | Aug 03 09:48 |
| cubezzz3 | yes | Aug 03 09:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Role of the Gates Foundation Comes Under Pressure Due to Shareholder Conflicts http://ur1.ca/0zmg0 | Aug 03 09:50 | |
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| DiabloD3 | [04:26:52] <cubezzz3> now, if you've ever used APL you will know it's the funkiest language out there | Aug 03 10:10 |
| DiabloD3 | brainfuck. | Aug 03 10:10 |
| cubezzz3 | you would have trouble even showing a program listing on the web | Aug 03 10:15 |
| cubezzz3 | ;-) | Aug 03 10:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Intel Congressman calls for Bradley Manning to be executed http://bit.ly/dblrPn stop him: http://bit.ly/bemkO7 | Aug 03 10:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bill Gates’ Forced Parenthood of Africa Receives Press Backlash http://ur1.ca/0zmxw last post on this subject, had to catch up | Aug 03 10:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] US Congressman calls for Wikileaks whistleblower to be executed http://ur1.ca/0znag Truth is treason? | Aug 03 11:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Zxware is also distributing SchoolOS DVD. Thanks for joining the gang. Buy SchoolOS at cheap price. #schoolOS | Aug 03 11:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Total Value Of The UK? £6.7 Trillion http://ur1.ca/0zndt says Rupert Murdoch's press | Aug 03 11:14 | |
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| schestowitz | "If you’re running Linux, you will need to install Mono instead of .Net. Some Mono information is here, though if you’re smart enough to be running Linux, you probably already know about Mono." http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/07/how-to-set-up-a-mini-grid/ | Aug 03 11:15 |
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| DiabloD3 | bwhahahaha | Aug 03 11:18 |
| DiabloD3 | that statement is right | Aug 03 11:19 |
| DiabloD3 | if you know about linux, you already know about mono ... being a total pile of shit. | Aug 03 11:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1012792/miguel-icaza-talks-inq | Aug 03 11:34 |
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| schestowitz | Charlie DemerjianFTW | Aug 03 11:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 03 11:34 |
| schestowitz | Inq: Why did you name your biggest project after an infectious disease? | Aug 03 11:34 |
| schestowitz | Miguel: Because I am Mexican and in Spanish, Mono means monkey. | Aug 03 11:34 |
| schestowitz | Inq: Thank you for your time. | Aug 03 11:34 |
| schestowitz | In the end, I am not sure I buy that explanation, but due to the extreme length of the interview and our tight schedules, I could not probe this any farther. It will no doubt be a topic for much discussion and debate among the epidemiology groups I hang out in for years to come. | Aug 03 11:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 03 11:34 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Aug 03 11:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Firefox To Make History, About To Surpass IE in Europe - http://bit.ly/9Zw55v yet more browser stats #firefox #ie | Aug 03 11:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Best Miguel de Icaza interview ever http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1012792/miguel-icaza-talks-inq | Aug 03 11:35 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tradingmarkets.com/news/press-release/ept_ewtgf_empower-technologies-corporation-empower-technologies-announces-debt-financing-1080938.html | Aug 03 11:36 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Bad guys could read RFID passports at 217 feet, maybe a lot more - http://bit.ly/9te2n0 oh, great #rfid #security | Aug 03 11:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Firefox To Make History, About To Surpass IE in Europe - http://bit.ly/9Zw55v yet more browser stats #firefox #ie | Aug 03 11:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Copyright and Open Access for Academic Works - http://bit.ly/99HUqe more thoughts on eliminating copyright from academic works #copyright | Aug 03 11:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Inside the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation - http://bit.ly/c85HZE good, detailed piece not too dazzled by Bill (via @schestowitz) | Aug 03 11:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Yeah! DNS resolution works! Now setting up the demolab phase II :-) | Aug 03 11:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How easy is it to track you? http://panopticlick.eff.org/ For me: "Your browser fingerprint.. unique among the 1,117,303 tested so far." | Aug 03 11:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @schestowitz: Best Miguel de Icaza interview ever http://is.gd/e08ae | #insightful ;-) | Aug 03 12:08 | |
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| *DiabloD3 snickers | Aug 03 12:25 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Miguel de Icaza named his large pro-Microsoft project after an infectious disease, and denies it during interview http://ur1.ca/0zo82 | Aug 03 12:27 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Miguel de icaza talks to the inq - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 56.07 KB | Aug 03 12:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] hardware thats Ubuntu certified http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/ http://post.ly/q0py | Aug 03 12:34 | |
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| schestowitz | "well I had a unique result but expected that in a relatively small sample, are computers the end of privacy?" http://identi.ca/conversation/44574151#notice-44892337 | Aug 03 12:40 |
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| schestowitz | I guess we're now at the point where some users can be tracked regardless of their IP address. | Aug 03 12:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Buy SchoolOS DVD's in Meerut and Ghaziabad http://iftytech.posterous.com/buy-schoolos-dvds-in-meerut-and-ghaziabad #schoolos | Aug 03 12:40 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Buy SchoolOS DVD's in Meerut and Ghaziabad - iftytech labs .::. Size~: 24.4 KB | Aug 03 12:40 |
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| jimmi | you guys might be interested in this little gem: | Aug 03 12:58 |
| jimmi | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625728 | Aug 03 12:58 |
| jimmi | shuttleworth is requesting planet-gnome syndication | Aug 03 12:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UK.gov smiles and nods at commentards - http://bit.ly/9Z5RE1 "not one policy will be changed as a result of the exercise": no, really? #uk | Aug 03 12:59 | |
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| jimmi | interestingly, miguel and another mono guy support him even tho other gnome people reject him | Aug 03 12:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 3/8/2010: KRunner Gets Dictionary Plugin, #Android Deployments Up 886% http://techrights.org/2010/08/03/android-deployments-up/ | Aug 03 13:00 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Links 3/8/2010: KRunner Gets Dictionary Plugin, Android Deployments Up 886% | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.68 KB | Aug 03 13:00 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/44577215#notice-44895227 "@schestowitz All a government needs do is trawl through anyones digital history and a trumped up crime can be found if they really want" | Aug 03 13:00 |
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| schestowitz | jimmi: hi | Aug 03 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Let's see... | Aug 03 13:01 |
| jimmi | hi | Aug 03 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Interesting! | Aug 03 13:03 |
| schestowitz | I'll do a quick post about it, thanks | Aug 03 13:03 |
| jimmi | np | Aug 03 13:03 |
| jimmi | so what do you make of it? | Aug 03 13:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Hadopi's secret 3-strikes security spec leaked - http://bit.ly/93Sug7 "a proposal for surveillance on Internet users' own computers"; insane | Aug 03 13:04 | |
| jimmi | do you think there's some behind-the-scenes deal that canonical and mono have going? | Aug 03 13:07 |
| jimmi | and hence the support? | Aug 03 13:07 |
| jimmi | eek, gotta run to class in a second here | Aug 03 13:08 |
| jimmi | just curious what you think of it before I go | Aug 03 13:08 |
| schestowitz | [13:04] <jimmi> so what do you make of it? | Aug 03 13:09 |
| schestowitz | Many Novell employees there | Aug 03 13:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Carphone Warehouse launches a Spotify rival - http://bit.ly/dyGRz5 seems to be identical to what My.MP3.com offered #music | Aug 03 13:09 | |
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| jimmi | who else is a novell employee? | Aug 03 13:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] socrata.com - http://bit.ly/aJczhc "Opening Government. One Dataset at a Time". interesting (via @emrosenb) #opendata #ogov | Aug 03 13:13 | |
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| jimmi | ok, gotta run | Aug 03 13:14 |
| jimmi | or I'll be late | Aug 03 13:14 |
| jimmi | later | Aug 03 13:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] OpenStudy - http://bit.ly/dARZTQ "a social study network for students"; nice idea #education #students | Aug 03 13:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bug #625728 http://ur1.ca/0zooh GNOME is divided on the question whether or not Mark Shuttleworth's blog should be added to #GNOME Planet | Aug 03 13:19 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Bug #625728 | Techrights .::. Size~: 77.32 KB | Aug 03 13:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Expiry of #Windows XP SP2 to Spur Adoption of #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/0zorv #Vista7 still struggles to gain a following | Aug 03 13:34 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Expiry of Windows XP SP2 to Spur Adoption of GNU/Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 77.89 KB | Aug 03 13:34 |
| *DiabloD3 is now known as Diablo-D3 | Aug 03 13:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Fires still spreading in parched Russia - http://bit.ly/cP24Bh a headline from the future #climatechange #russia | Aug 03 13:40 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: BBC News - Fires still spreading in parched Russia .::. Size~: 51.71 KB | Aug 03 13:40 |
| oiaohm | Ok I know netcraft is not the most trustable source but this one is worth a read. schestowitz | Aug 03 13:55 |
| oiaohm | Windows Live Spaces requires less domain space. | Aug 03 13:55 |
| oiaohm | Is it dieing? | Aug 03 13:55 |
| schestowitz | I think | Aug 03 14:00 |
| schestowitz | They had spam issues | Aug 03 14:00 |
| schestowitz | And they cracked down on it ~2 months ago | Aug 03 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Meaning they deleted many spaces | Aug 03 14:01 |
| oiaohm | But that is a large number of sites to disappear. | Aug 03 14:02 |
| oiaohm | Opps I mess pasting the link http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2010/07/16/july-2010-web-server-survey-16.html schestowitz | Aug 03 14:03 |
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| oiaohm | 388k sites gone in one clean up of One microsoft site | Aug 03 14:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | what does that even mean? | Aug 03 14:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] http://techrights.org/2010/08/03/distorting-facts-in-new-zealand/ | Aug 03 14:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Software Patents Booster Says the United Kingdom and the European Union Allow Software Patents http://ur1.ca/0zp0o #eu #nz #swpats | Aug 03 14:06 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, that's possible | Aug 03 14:10 |
| oiaohm | In 1 month schestowitz | Aug 03 14:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft suffers decline in Web server share http://ur1.ca/0zp2r I don't trust how Netcraft measures absolute numbers, but still... | Aug 03 14:12 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Aug 03 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is now focused on trying to put apache on Windows with sqlserver stuck to it | Aug 03 14:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Change is good. But show your work! - http://bit.ly/cuoKDI course: obvious. doubt whether the newspaper will see it that way, though... | Aug 03 14:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] BCS Linux-baiting sparks flame war - http://bit.ly/d50NIo BCS displaying its usual sensitivity, I see #bcs #security | Aug 03 14:16 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: BCS Linux-baiting sparks flame war • The Register .::. Size~: 29.73 KB | Aug 03 14:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] "Microsoft is essentially bolting Office to SharePoint to prevent customers from moving to other office products" http://bit.ly/9InPPg | Aug 03 14:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] FBI claims no-one may publish its seal - http://bit.ly/bGsEcm sulking much? #fbi #wikileaks #footstamping | Aug 03 14:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] New online business model will succeed, says Rupert Murdoch - http://bit.ly/9WitC0 'cos he can't grok the old one (via @jeffjarvis) | Aug 03 14:56 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: New online business model will succeed, says Rupert Murdoch | The Australian .::. Size~: 56.83 KB | Aug 03 14:56 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Desperately Seeking LAMP 2.0 - http://bit.ly/9SI5TY where's the clunk-click open source cloud stack? #lamp #cloudcomputing #opensource | Aug 03 16:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning, friends! How are we all doing today? | Aug 03 16:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] #WordPress 3.0.1. Do I dare? http://is.gd/e0rWi Any noteworthy hiccups going 2.9.2 to 3.0.1? | Aug 03 16:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Wikibon - http://bit.ly/9BNHUU "solving technology and business problems through an open source sharing of free advisory knowledge": GNU FDL | Aug 03 16:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Crack it open for Bradley Manning http://bit.ly/d7Q4Rt http://bit.ly/b01tFP http://bit.ly/dpuj8t | Aug 03 16:15 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Bradley Manning Support Network » Blog Archive » Press release: Legal Fund Established to Fight Imprisonment of Accused WikiLeaks Whistleblower .::. Size~: 53.2 KB | Aug 03 16:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Practical Guide to using Free Software in the Public Sector - http://bit.ly/98LRF2 based on French law, and rather limited, but a start #eu | Aug 03 16:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Status.net Gets $1.4M to Take Open-Source Twitter Into the Enterprise - http://bit.ly/ayRRUn but will they accept it? #identica | Aug 03 16:26 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Status.net Gets $1.4M to Take Open-Source Twitter Into the Enterprise .::. Size~: 62.89 KB | Aug 03 16:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The recovery disc rip-off - http://bit.ly/c5M1iu another reason to stick with free software #ripoffs | Aug 03 16:28 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The recovery disc rip-off | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 53.4 KB | Aug 03 16:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Politics of Email: Son of Reagan liberally attacks Apple, Google and Microsoft - http://bit.ly/9Msdyn you can't make this stuff up | Aug 03 16:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] http://micurl.com/kslkvb | Aug 03 16:37 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: BBC News - iPad trial at Leicester City Council sparks union anger .::. Size~: 49.8 KB | Aug 03 16:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Sorry, missed the text, last link is about counsellors announcing cuts to services, yet wanting to buy iPads | Aug 03 16:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Mine safety regulations aren’t needed since “no one will apply” for jobs at dangerous mines - http://bit.ly/cTg2cF oh, that's OK, then | Aug 03 16:41 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Rand Paul: Mine safety regulations arent needed since no one will apply for jobs at dangerous mines « Climate Progress .::. Size~: 41.81 KB | Aug 03 16:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] RT @bbh Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason. #Politics #Quotes #q | Aug 03 16:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Julian Assange on whitehouse spin, spying | Democracy Now http://bit.ly/b5NQiW | Aug 03 16:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Xinjiang moves to preserve its artistic heritage | Aug 03 16:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Xinjiang moves to preserve its artistic heritage - http://bit.ly/bI7nzK well, the intangible bits (via @farwestchina @henrykszad) #uighurs | Aug 03 16:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Twitter spam should be called #TWAM. Which leads to #twamming and #twammers. MeLikes. | Aug 03 17:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @linuxfoundation: Four #Linux-friendly alternatives to Exchange: http://bit.ly/bT5GM9 | Aug 03 17:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Today, though, people are so lost in the fog of cloud computing..." -- @glynmoody #fogcomputing #lockin #hype | Aug 03 17:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard go for it. Only took me 5 minutes on two sites, more than 5 hours on the third :-) | Aug 03 17:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Status.net Gets $1.4M to Take Open-Source Twitter Into the Enterprise http://ur1.ca/0zqld who said no money in free/libre software? | Aug 03 17:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @thistleweb bad idea. Lock-in and price gouging | Aug 03 17:40 | |
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| schestowitz | Hi, _Goblin | Aug 03 17:51 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/317439 "yeah i was dumbfounded until i clicked the link- very silly, actually. you'd think he and i would get along with his primate obsession, but he's more of a monkey's ass than a monkey" | Aug 03 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Aug 03 17:52 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, back from work....set up and ready to go! | Aug 03 18:07 | |
| _Goblin | Hi....sorry Roy, just warming the system up, loading my packages....getting a coffee...ready for an evenings blog... | Aug 03 18:07 |
| MinceR | geekings | Aug 03 18:31 |
| _Goblin | geekings | Aug 03 18:38 |
| _Goblin | albeit 7 minutes late | Aug 03 18:38 |
| MinceR | np | Aug 03 18:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] How Lawyers Can Help Us to Share - http://bit.ly/bO7FQz no really #sharing #lawyers | Aug 03 18:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Pirate Bay Founder Appeals “Political Gagging” Court Order - http://bit.ly/cSAGPN as well he might #piratebay | Aug 03 18:45 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Pirate Bay Founder Appeals Political Gagging Court Order | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 32.63 KB | Aug 03 18:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Will Illumos Bring OpenSolaris Back To Life? - http://bit.ly/cXVtkC "a fully open-source-licensed version of the Solaris OS": not a fork... | Aug 03 18:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Madball, why do I love you so much? | Aug 03 19:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The Ubuntu LoCo Council are doing such an *awesome* job. If you one of them, buy them a drink and pat them on the back. #locoteams | Aug 03 19:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] No Wonder it Sold for a Dollar - http://bit.ly/dkwnZu great slapdown of shoddy #journalism | Aug 03 20:26 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: No Wonder it Sold for a Dollar - A Healthy Information Diet - InfoVegan.com .::. Size~: 8.01 KB | Aug 03 20:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I am in Hyderabad now. will be here for 4-6 aug. You can collect SchoolOS DVD if you want. | Aug 03 20:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] BusyBox and the GPL Prevail Again - http://bit.ly/bpk90c "the GPL has teeth, it is enforceable in a court of law" #gpl #busybox | Aug 03 20:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Even with Big Data, It’s Hard to Ask the Right Question - http://bit.ly/ctUp1i interesting analysis #bigdata | Aug 03 20:36 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Even with Big Data, Its Hard to Ask the Right Question tecosystems .::. Size~: 63.1 KB | Aug 03 20:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] HTML5 - Mario - http://www.effectgames.com/effect/games/mariodemo/ #html5 | Aug 03 20:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Copyleft licenses: they're pretty open, but if you take the piss you'll lose big time. http://bit.ly/bpk90c Holy crap, pwned. | Aug 03 20:51 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Groklaw - BusyBox and the GPL Prevail Again .::. Size~: 35.72 KB | Aug 03 20:51 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Apple officially a religion! http://www.techeye.net/business/apple-is-now-officially-a-religion | Aug 03 21:02 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Comment: Apple is now officially a religion - Boffins prove that it has all the right stuff | TechEye .::. Size~: 34.09 KB | Aug 03 21:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wow. Is *anyone* still using Internet Explorer without a gun to their head? http://is.gd/e0RMH | Aug 03 21:02 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsoft Quashed Effort to Boost Online Privacy - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 171.89 KB | Aug 03 21:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @davidgerard Wow. Is *anyone* still using Internet Explorer without a gun to their head? http://is.gd/e0RMH #microsoft #mvp #mvpbuzz #ie | Aug 03 21:08 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsoft Quashed Effort to Boost Online Privacy - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 171.89 KB | Aug 03 21:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Patents Getting In The Way Of Saving Lives; Fabry Disease Sufferers Petition US Gov't To Step In - http://bit.ly/cZYUS6 indefensible | Aug 03 21:21 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Patents Getting In The Way Of Saving Lives; Fabry Disease Sufferers Petition US Gov't To Step In | Techdirt .::. Size~: 30.75 KB | Aug 03 21:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] 13 days to the new Iron Maiden album. Bring it! | Aug 03 21:32 | |
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| FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: boa toarde | Aug 03 21:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: boa tarde* | Aug 03 21:59 |
| jweyrich | FurnaceBoy: boa tarde!! tudo bem? | Aug 03 21:59 |
| jweyrich | damn, I'm freezing. today's really cold. | Aug 03 22:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | tudo | Aug 03 22:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | affff aqui esta humido | Aug 03 22:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | :| | Aug 03 22:03 |
| jweyrich | here walls are completely wet. | Aug 03 22:06 |
| jweyrich | disgusting. | Aug 03 22:06 |
| jweyrich | FurnaceBoy: @ work? | Aug 03 22:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: ewwk | Aug 03 22:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: procrastinating. that's almost harder than actual work. | Aug 03 22:12 |
| jweyrich | FurnaceBoy: same here. | Aug 03 22:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: here's how I've been procrastinating. http://telegraphics.com.au/svn/puzzles/trunk/beust/ | Aug 03 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: puzzles - Revision 79: /trunk/beust .::. Size~: 0.41 KB | Aug 03 22:12 |
| jweyrich | I was fighting against a stack overflow on CentOS. but I pwned. | Aug 03 22:13 |
| jweyrich | isn't it a divisibility problem? | Aug 03 22:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | try it and see. | Aug 03 22:14 |
| jweyrich | was just reading the beust.com's description. | Aug 03 22:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | right. | Aug 03 22:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | solve it any way you like :) | Aug 03 22:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wikimedia 1, FBI 0. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/us/20100803-wiki-LetterToLarson.pdf Godwinated. | Aug 03 22:14 | |
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| jweyrich | ah, okay, it can't repeat at all, it's not just a sequential repeat. got it | Aug 03 22:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | right | Aug 03 22:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] If MS's lesson from the OOXML debacle is the need to communicate better then they haven't really learned. http://bit.ly/bD6tFg | Aug 03 22:18 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: OOXML and open clouds: Microsoft's lessons learned • The Register .::. Size~: 32.58 KB | Aug 03 22:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20010046-64.html "Sales of the iPad and similar tablets will jump next year, with some of that heady growth coming at the expense of Netbooks and low-end notebooks, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday, citing a series of research notes sent out by Barclays Capital." | Aug 03 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Report: iPad, tablets to cannibalize 'Wintel' laptops | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News .::. Size~: 160.04 KB | Aug 03 22:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS will take another hit, is what that means | Aug 03 22:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Not to mention the OEM's that MS intimidates | Aug 03 22:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Maybe if Android and WebOS are successful, we may see the start of the end of the MS Tax | Aug 03 22:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Tablet sales are forecast to reach at least 15 million units this year, jumping to 28 million in 2011, Barclays said." | Aug 03 22:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | Chips_B_Malroy: MS tax will end, just a question of when :) | Aug 03 22:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The sooner the better | Aug 03 22:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but we don't want it replaced with an Apple Tax | Aug 03 22:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Android so far seems acceptable, open source. | Aug 03 22:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so Android is really not a Tax | Aug 03 22:26 |
| MinceR | it's just Java/Linux | Aug 03 22:27 |
| MinceR | with a killswitch | Aug 03 22:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Made the point awhile back that the Ipad would cannabalize the low end MS laptop market more than it would the Mac computer market. The $500 ro $600 price and using ARM was key to doing this. | Aug 03 22:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | But it seems to be doing it in a bigger way than most anyone thought it would | Aug 03 22:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Now if Google's Android can surpass Ipad like it has Iphone in short order, MS is in deeper trouble. It means fewer windows licences to sell, and supporting software like Office for them. | Aug 03 22:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ipad seems to be overpriced to me. Thinking that Android willl run on cheaper Chinese Arm Tablets, maybe for as low as $100. | Aug 03 22:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The end for Microsoft's huge profits could come a lot faster than most of us believed possible. | Aug 03 22:34 |
| MinceR | the hypePad is a chinese ARM tablet too, afaik :> | Aug 03 22:34 |
| MinceR | hm, might be a chinese MIPS tablet | Aug 03 22:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Aug 03 22:34 |
| MinceR | ARM it is | Aug 03 22:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but Apple's profit margins are very high on the Ipad | Aug 03 22:35 |
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| MinceR | crApple's profit margins are very high on everything | Aug 03 22:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | agreed, which is why they will never dominate the market | Aug 03 22:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They will become a niche once again. Its only the Ipod that they have continued to dominate | Aug 03 22:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Apple will always be a niche, until Jobs leaves, and someone replaces him that goes after the market and MS | Aug 03 22:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | Chips_B_Malroy: isn't india planning a $35 pad? | Aug 03 22:38 |
| MinceR | and after jobs leaves, it will be dead | Aug 03 22:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | But that time that Apple could do this is almost over | Aug 03 22:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | the best thing about post-Apple is that there will be another jobs. | Aug 03 22:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Jobs is like a lot of leaders at the top, he take credit for what others underneath him have done | Aug 03 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | what we don't need is another Gates or Dell, but that type sprouts everywhere... | Aug 03 22:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Jobs gets far too much credit | Aug 03 22:40 |
| MinceR | jobs takes credit for what others outside the company who got nothing but patent FUD in exchange have done | Aug 03 22:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | both ms and Jobs want to take credit for touchscreen. Jobs sues for touchscreen patents. Touchscreen technology has been around at least since the 80's in casino video poker and slot machines, which were just basically computers back in those days. | Aug 03 22:44 |
| MinceR | they also want to take credit for the GUI that the guys at Xerox PARC developed | Aug 03 22:46 |
| MinceR | jobs also wants to take credit for KHTML | Aug 03 22:46 |
| MinceR | the industry doesn't need these thieves | Aug 03 22:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I hate to say it, but in some ways, we need a Corp like Google to take on the other like MS and Apple. Android and Chrome OS might actually get on computers and break the MS stranglehold on OEM's. once and foreall. | Aug 03 22:48 |
| MinceR | google will be the next Big Evil once they take down m$ and crApple | Aug 03 22:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Maybe not | Aug 03 22:49 |
| MinceR | we'll have to break our dependency on such megacorps to kill the others, because it will never end | Aug 03 22:49 |
| cubezzz3 | google contributes to Linux though | Aug 03 22:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Google might also make it easier for community Linux to get installed on OEM computers once MS is broken out. | Aug 03 22:50 |
| MinceR | they also erode web standards and hoard private data on us that's none of their business | Aug 03 22:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Google is not perfect, but of the MegaCorps out there, can you name a better one? | Aug 03 22:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I know I can't. | Aug 03 22:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | While that dosen't excuse the bad they do, still | Aug 03 22:52 |
| MinceR | i can't | Aug 03 22:54 |
| MinceR | but that doesn't mean we don't have to be extremely careful in the case that they gain dominance. | Aug 03 22:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | see, we think alike mostly | Aug 03 22:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, of course | Aug 03 22:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I believe Google will gain dominace | Aug 03 22:56 |
| MinceR | and of course every player that gains dominance has learned from the previous ones | Aug 03 22:56 |
| MinceR | so the danger builds up | Aug 03 22:56 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: What time do you suggest I come on the 18th? Would around midnight be OK? Earlier? Later? | Aug 03 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Looking forward to it... just need to book a train ticket to Luton. | Aug 03 22:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ah, but one thing is happening, is companies like HP buying Palm for WebOS (linux). The market is fracturing for operating systems on ARM, just like on phones now. | Aug 03 22:58 |
| MinceR | after android, it could use some fracturing | Aug 03 22:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The OEM's know that MS cannot compete on ARM. They also know that Apple will kill them with Ipad if the OEM's do not have a good OS to sell on ARM devices. And that only leaves Linux. | Aug 03 22:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which brings us back to the link I posted, Ipad sales canabalizing low end laptop sales of MS | Aug 03 23:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which is why HP had to buy Palm, and Dell looks at Android, etc. | Aug 03 23:01 |
| cubezzz3 | what OS does Iphone use? | Aug 03 23:01 |
| cubezzz3 | Ipad, etc | Aug 03 23:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | iOS | Aug 03 23:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its basically a stripped down ARM version of Mac OS X | Aug 03 23:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | cause BSD already had ARM kernels and software | Aug 03 23:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which Mac uses some of | Aug 03 23:02 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I think MS killed Netbooks by putting XP on them, to the point that you could no longer find a linux netbook sold in the USA. | Aug 03 23:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They (MS) might have more trouble putting the cork back in the Genie bottle with ARM Tablets | Aug 03 23:04 |
| cubezzz3 | thats only x86 netbooks thogh | Aug 03 23:05 |
| cubezzz3 | non-x86 should do OK | Aug 03 23:05 |
| jweyrich | FurnaceBoy: do you know if gcc's -O0 does unreachable code removal/elimination? | Aug 03 23:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They fosted CE on cheap ARM netbooks as well | Aug 03 23:05 |
| jweyrich | I thought it didn't, but looks like it does.. contradiction Item 1 from http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Speedup_areas#Code_generation_improvements_which_would_help_performance | Aug 03 23:05 |
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| jweyrich | contradicting* | Aug 03 23:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | very few you can find with Android on them | Aug 03 23:05 |
| cubezzz3 | sparcbook :) | Aug 03 23:08 |
| MinceR | PC-Z1 :) | Aug 03 23:09 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah you can always find alternatives | Aug 03 23:09 |
| cubezzz3 | a used sparcbook you can get cheap | Aug 03 23:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fsmag] If you want to finance free works then Flattr may be the software de jour for micropayments. http://fsmsh.com/3369 #freesoftware #fsmag | Aug 03 23:11 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Flattr: A Social Micropayment Platform for Financing Free Works .::. Size~: 42.17 KB | Aug 03 23:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sparc laptop? | Aug 03 23:11 |
| cubezzz3 | yes | Aug 03 23:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not that cheap | Aug 03 23:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ebay? | Aug 03 23:11 |
| cubezzz3 | you see them on ebay used sometimes, yes | Aug 03 23:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | must be slow | Aug 03 23:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | old | Aug 03 23:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: i am surprised if it does | Aug 03 23:11 |
| jweyrich | FurnaceBoy: me too, but it's doing. it shouldn't. looks like a bug. | Aug 03 23:12 |
| cubezzz3 | old doesn't bother me | Aug 03 23:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | cubezzz3> QNX v4 demo will run on 8 or 16 mb of ram on a 486 floppy drive | Aug 03 23:13 |
| cubezzz3 | worth a look I suppose | Aug 03 23:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but I think its not really open source | Aug 03 23:14 |
| cubezzz3 | tried menuetOS the other day and 16 megs wasn't enough ram | Aug 03 23:14 |
| cubezzz3 | AmigaOS 1.3 ran in 512K :) | Aug 03 23:15 |
| cubezzz3 | compared to that my 486 has tons of ram | Aug 03 23:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Warp 3 OS/2 would probably run | Aug 03 23:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you can get a floppy version of that. Of course its not free | Aug 03 23:16 |
| cubezzz3 | and it's yet another closed source OS | Aug 03 23:16 |
| cubezzz3 | and MenuetOS is assembler anyways | Aug 03 23:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that usually makes it fast | Aug 03 23:20 |
| MinceR | and unmaintainable :> | Aug 03 23:20 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah | Aug 03 23:21 |
| MinceR | and unportable | Aug 03 23:21 |
| cubezzz3 | that leaves BL3 (so far) | Aug 03 23:21 |
| cubezzz3 | only thing that would work on that box | Aug 03 23:21 |
| cubezzz3 | and yes, I ported my X programs to it | Aug 03 23:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Freedos? | Aug 03 23:23 |
| cubezzz3 | oh right, it's on there too | Aug 03 23:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ReactOS probably uses too much ram | Aug 03 23:23 |
| cubezzz3 | Minix maybe, but I'm not really interested | Aug 03 23:23 |
| cubezzz3 | I'm sure one of the BSDs would probably work | Aug 03 23:26 |
| MinceR | gn | Aug 03 23:30 |
| cubezzz3 | nite | Aug 03 23:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | gn | Aug 03 23:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think GEM, at least some of the early version have been open sourced. Might be wrong and only freewared | Aug 03 23:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its only more of a graphical system to be used on Dos | Aug 03 23:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Should run on your Freedos | Aug 03 23:32 |
| cubezzz3 | there's also desqview/X | Aug 03 23:33 |
| cubezzz3 | but I got X already on BL3 | Aug 03 23:33 |
| cubezzz3 | the next project(s) are learning xlib better and making a Linux video | Aug 03 23:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.examiner.com/x-37543-Columbus-Technology-Examiner~y2010m7d16-InfoWorld-rips-Microsoft-Windows-Phone-7-Dont-bother-with-this-disaster | Aug 03 23:38 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "Microsoft's in-depth technology demo of their soon-come Windows Phone 7 mobile operating system received poor grades from venerable technology magazine, InfoWorld." | Aug 03 23:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "The magazine essentially blasted Windows Phone 7 for its clumsy interface and a feature set straight out of 2007, while noting a palpable lack of buzz coming from the developer community at the Mobile Beat conference where the demo took place." | Aug 03 23:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "InfoWorld shredded WP7's awkward user interface implementation, "Now that I've seen it more in action, all I can say is how clunky it is. " | Aug 03 23:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Even more surprising is Windows Phone 7's feature set, which sounds like it came from an Apple R&D meeting from the mid 2000s. Windows Phone 7 doesn't have multitasking, copy and paste, nor HTML5 support (the installed browser is IE7, not IE9" | Aug 03 23:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and no Firefox either. | Aug 03 23:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | This Dog ain't going hunt. | Aug 03 23:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | ;) | Aug 03 23:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer needs to scrape it like he did that Tablet, Courier. Its never going hunt. | Aug 03 23:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://minimsft.blogspot.com | Aug 03 23:44 |
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| cubezzz3 | he'll just dance around like an idiot yeahing "I love this company Yearrrrghhhhhh!" | Aug 03 23:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I sure hope Internet Exploder works better on Cellphones with CE based, than on desktop NT. | Aug 03 23:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | CE? | Aug 03 23:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | surely that's long dead and buried... | Aug 03 23:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe, or it might be: "where have all the chairs gone" | Aug 03 23:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | WP7 is based on CE. Remember, MS renames all products that are not doing well | Aug 03 23:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which is almost all of them | Aug 03 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: musical chairs with revenue :-) | Aug 03 23:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh, i had no idea. | Aug 03 23:47 |
| schestowitz | wb, FurnaceBoy | Aug 03 23:47 |
| schestowitz | we missed you | Aug 03 23:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | CE was PocketPC first | Aug 03 23:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: hehe thx | Aug 03 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: PC in a pocket | Aug 03 23:48 |
| schestowitz | That's what it was... grotesque and oversized | Aug 03 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft JUmbo pack... Ballmer thinks it's like the car industry | Aug 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer loves things fat | Aug 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Jobs like them thin, like himself | Aug 03 23:49 |
| cubezzz3 | Ballmer is Phatness | Aug 03 23:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and see what good it got the american car industry in | Aug 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | HUMMER - will /PAY/ to get rid of | Aug 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Steve HUMMER | Aug 03 23:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | GM is still lieing about paying back the money | Aug 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Federal Motors would receive support for lying | Aug 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Just like GS lies about the AIG bailout | Aug 03 23:51 |
| schestowitz | They owe, on average, $42 to each American soul for that one /alone/ | Aug 03 23:51 |
| cubezzz3 | Generous Motors was too generous | Aug 03 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Obama would have people off his back for the fairy tale of the banks paying back the bailout money | Aug 03 23:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | inept | Aug 03 23:51 |
| cubezzz3 | no way they could sustain it | Aug 03 23:51 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz3: it was TooBigTooFail | Aug 03 23:51 |
| cubezzz3 | yes | Aug 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | (TooBigTooFailtoGetBailout | Aug 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: thanks for supporting GS (Goldman Sachs) | Aug 03 23:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 2big2fail--translation--handouts for the rich | Aug 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Your collective payments to them last year helped make a bonus of an averge ~$500,000 last year | Aug 03 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Per employee... around $25bn in total IIRC | Aug 03 23:53 |
| cubezzz3 | some bankers went to luxury hotels to celebrate :-/ | Aug 03 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Imagine being the secretary to receive $500,000 in bonuses for ONE year during a depression | Aug 03 23:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I supposed they needed that money more than I do. After all, my 22 year old vehicle is good for a few more years. | Aug 03 23:54 |
| cubezzz3 | wow, Chips_B_Malroy, your car is even older than my 486 :) | Aug 03 23:54 |
| schestowitz | http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/02/news/economy/Warren_BCFP_COP_FCIC.fortune/index.htm?dbk | Aug 03 23:54 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Why not Elizabeth Warren for BCFP? - Aug. 2, 2010 .::. Size~: 70.35 KB | Aug 03 23:54 |
| cubezzz3 | it's "only" 17 years old | Aug 03 23:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | worse, my vehicle is not FREE | Aug 03 23:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/why-we-really-shouldnt-ke_b_667816.html?ir=Business | Aug 03 23:55 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Robert Reich: Why We Really Shouldn't Keep the Bush Tax Cut for the Wealthy .::. Size~: 345.38 KB | Aug 03 23:55 |
| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GEITHNER_ECONOMY?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | Aug 03 23:56 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Oakland Tribune (AP) Online .::. Size~: 80.56 KB | Aug 03 23:56 |
| cubezzz3 | I see the odd 50's car in the summer time | Aug 03 23:56 |
| cubezzz3 | probably going to some car show | Aug 03 23:57 |
| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_COUNTRYWIDE_SETTLEMENT?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | Aug 03 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Oakland Tribune (AP) Online .::. Size~: 53.32 KB | Aug 03 23:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/03/us/03unemployed.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss | Aug 03 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.11 KB | Aug 03 23:58 |
| schestowitz | From the RecessionIsOver (R) crowd | Aug 03 23:59 |
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