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| schestowitz | The comments are interesting and the source if our IRC channel | Aug 27 01:00 |
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| MinceR | deadpool is awesome. | Aug 27 06:53 |
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| schestowitz | A pot proponent got upset over my last article | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | The picture of a bag of buds in the article is misleading: | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/08/26/mpeg-la-trick/ | Aug 27 09:13 |
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| schestowitz | Yes there are social and health concerns regarding buds but they are | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | not addictive and if one save the seeds it is possible to maintain | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | independence. (It is also self-limiting, because a side effect is | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | lack of motivation which eventually results in cessation of | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | cultivation of buds.) | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | The better choice would be a few rocks of crack or of kat. The crack | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | is given 2-for-1 because the first dose is some 80% - 90% to cause | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | permanent addiction, the second dose is so close to 100% that it may | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | as well be called so. I used to hang out with all kinds of social | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | workers and urban researchers. That level of addiction has *all* | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | kinds of far reaching economic effects. | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 09:13 |
| MinceR | what's the chance of permanent addiction with first and second doses of ethanol and nicotine? | Aug 27 09:59 |
| schestowitz | You tell /me/........ | Aug 27 10:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 27 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, he's right | Aug 27 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is not liking this: " Silverlight dying? http://bit.ly/an0Ljw " http://twitter.com/Morticah/statuses/22249234563 | Aug 27 11:04 |
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| schestowitz | People start talkingabbout Silver Lie as dying | Aug 27 11:04 |
| schestowitz | "Is Microsofts Silverlight dying ... http://is.gd/eGjfo?" http://twitter.com/Project_DoCUMA/statuses/22248869771 | Aug 27 11:04 |
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| schestowitz | And dozens more | Aug 27 11:04 |
| oiaohm | flash is also threating to die in a lot of markets | Aug 27 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 27 11:05 |
| schestowitz | But I'm also talking bout "Trash" in my post | Aug 27 11:06 |
| schestowitz | and HTML5 | Aug 27 11:06 |
| schestowitz | That's the real disruptor | Aug 27 11:06 |
| schestowitz | YouTube with html5+svg+webm | Aug 27 11:06 |
| schestowitz | I only use trash for youtube | Aug 27 11:06 |
| MinceR | apparently tinyogg lets you avoid even that | Aug 27 11:07 |
| MinceR | actually, even WebM | Aug 27 11:07 |
| MinceR | if youtube supports WebM already | Aug 27 11:07 |
| oiaohm | The disrupters are still coming. schestowitz | Aug 27 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Like webgl and other techs that will close in even more on the flash market. | Aug 27 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Oh yeah,that | Aug 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz | webgl | Aug 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft tries fighting it already | Aug 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz | svg->vml | Aug 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz | webgl->directx something | Aug 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz | msie bleeds share and apple has no directx I think, so it won't take off any better than silver lie | Aug 27 11:28 |
| cubevector | I think ie is kaput | Aug 27 13:10 |
| cubevector | no one I know uses it | Aug 27 13:10 |
| cubevector | got the whole family off IE and outlook express now | Aug 27 13:10 |
| cubevector | we use kmail and mutt | Aug 27 13:11 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 27 13:11 |
| cubevector | I could never go back to those programs | Aug 27 13:11 |
| cubevector | mut is a million times better than oe | Aug 27 13:12 |
| cubevector | even my sister's kids use Linux now | Aug 27 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, MadRobot | Aug 27 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Come to channel #techrights | Aug 27 13:20 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: no infections then | Aug 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz | _Goblins's wife uses Linux | Aug 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz | *lin's | Aug 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz | _Goblinus | Aug 27 13:21 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, infections? | Aug 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz | I met her last week | Aug 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz | MadRobot: virus (windows) | Aug 27 13:21 |
| MadRobot | Except that I don't use windblows.. obviously. | Aug 27 13:22 |
| schestowitz | Windows uses many people :-D | Aug 27 13:22 |
| MadRobot | I agree. :) | Aug 27 13:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | man | Aug 27 13:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wonder why people are spreading mild disinformation about usb3 | Aug 27 13:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | "its not compatible with 2, it uses more wireszes" | Aug 27 13:24 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: why not join #techrights as well? All the conversation is there. | Aug 27 13:25 |
| cubevector | hardly all :) | Aug 27 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Well, let's say >90% | Aug 27 13:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | well Im either going to be in one or the other | Aug 27 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | not both | Aug 27 13:36 |
| schestowitz | OK, fair enough, Diablo-D3 | Aug 27 13:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/47258339#notice-47670906 "@schestowitz That column is what prompted my comments about Mrs Blair doing her part for her husband's employers. Don't Mention The Bombing!" | Aug 27 16:16 |
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| FurnaceBoy | +1 | Aug 27 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Which bombing? | Aug 27 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Shock and Awe? | Aug 27 17:05 |
| schestowitz | I didn't read the article | Aug 27 17:05 |
| schestowitz | I knew it's the one you referred to, though | Aug 27 17:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | the planned bombing | Aug 27 17:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | the us/israel jihad against iran | Aug 27 17:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | agitated for by her husband's employers | Aug 27 17:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | she's covering the left flank by talking up 'human rights' and not mentioning the planned war | Aug 27 17:08 |
| schestowitz | I don't know about it | Aug 27 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Planned war? | Aug 27 17:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes, duh? | Aug 27 17:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | it was originally uncovered by Seymour Hersh during the Bush years, and has been in and out of headlines ever since. | Aug 27 17:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | its the objective of all the rhetoric about iran's nuclear programme. | Aug 27 17:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | ggreenwald has informatively covered it for years | Aug 27 17:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | most recently by pointing out the blatant propaganda in The Atlantic | Aug 27 17:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | his article about that would be a good refresher if you're not familiar with the 'war planning'. part of the planning is careful astroturfing like Blair's column | Aug 27 17:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: perfectly analogous to 'we're in Afghanistan to save all the women' | Aug 27 17:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: 'we're going to bomb iran flat to save Neda' | Aug 27 17:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i hope that answers your question about 'why Cherie Blair is in the Guardian'. | Aug 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | gtg | Aug 27 17:12 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/12/goldberg/index.html et seq | Aug 27 17:22 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I'm back | Aug 27 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, that's the impression I've been getting about Iran and China has its story too | Aug 27 19:15 |
| schestowitz | If {not Western} then {some 'instability' needs Western intervention} | Aug 27 19:15 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know about the role of Cherlatan [sic | Aug 27 19:16 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know about the role of Cherlatan [sic] B'liar | Aug 27 19:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: as in iraq so in iran. another front in blair's backers' perpetual war | Aug 27 19:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: he's been very helpful to them, hence his astronomical stipend | Aug 27 19:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: also his role in Quartet furthering war agenda | Aug 27 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Whose? | Aug 27 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Tony? | Aug 27 19:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right man in the right place. wife's enlisted, like Melinda, to provide a human face who will discuss soft issues like human rights, without mentioning the 'bomb them into stone age' part. | Aug 27 19:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. Tony. | Aug 27 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Or contraception | Aug 27 19:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and that's why she's inthe GUardian. | Aug 27 19:26 |
| schestowitz | They call it "family planning" or "parebthood" | Aug 27 19:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they'll co-opt the 'image' of Neda. brave women fighting oppression. | Aug 27 19:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | 'we're bombing them to save them' | Aug 27 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Euphemism for eugenics and the likes | Aug 27 19:27 |
| schestowitz | In Iran,more women than men go to college | Aug 27 19:27 |
| schestowitz | I had an argument about this in the afternoon | Aug 27 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Misconceptions about Iranian culture | Aug 27 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Explaining that as long as Israel has nukes, it cannot complain about others having some | Aug 27 19:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | exactly | Aug 27 19:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the other example is, in USA, 4% of films made by women. In Iran, 25%+ | Aug 27 19:28 |
| schestowitz | But also, I think the camel+tent stereotype needs to go | Aug 27 19:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the misinformation campaign against iran is as cynical as ever. | Aug 27 19:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: John Bolton | Aug 27 19:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and did u check that Greenwald column abuot the propagandising in the Atlantic? | Aug 27 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | I don't read him | Aug 27 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I distrust Salon | Aug 27 19:36 |
| schestowitz | They have Glimore now, though | Aug 27 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I like his ideas | Aug 27 19:36 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Greenwald is hard to fault. | Aug 27 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: calls a spade a spade | Aug 27 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 27 20:02 |
| schestowitz | That makes him "bad" | Aug 27 20:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Aug 27 20:02 |
| schestowitz | Many people consider me too a bad guy | Aug 27 20:02 |
| schestowitz | Or other names | Aug 27 20:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Aug 27 20:02 |
| schestowitz | like "abrasive" | Aug 27 20:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | LOL | Aug 27 20:02 |
| schestowitz | Cause I use words like "crorruption" when it is | Aug 27 20:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | a stone in their shoe | Aug 27 20:02 |
| schestowitz | Some people would be better off saying "shit" and "f8ck", just not accuse power | Aug 27 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Those that "give us job" | Aug 27 20:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | faux cred | Aug 27 20:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | Gruber | Aug 27 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Of governments whose attendants only want to 'protect us' | Aug 27 20:03 |
| schestowitz | I had an argument in dinner over it | Aug 27 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Trying to defeat me by raising voice over mine | Aug 27 20:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | the great crime is to speak a truth == wikileaks | Aug 27 20:03 |
| schestowitz | We had to change topic | Aug 27 20:03 |
| schestowitz | But it was actually over science | Aug 27 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Science versus well.... bollox | Aug 27 20:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Aug 27 20:04 |
| schestowitz | And they ask me, why do you have to bring it up | Aug 27 20:04 |
| schestowitz | So I gave an analogy | Aug 27 20:04 |
| schestowitz | If people say 9/11 was caused by white militias, would you let it pass? | Aug 27 20:04 |
| schestowitz | or would you correct it? | Aug 27 20:04 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, some people argue like cocodiles | Aug 27 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Using their throats capacity | Aug 27 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Not their brain | Aug 27 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Like O'Reilly's "no spin" zone | Aug 27 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I went off topic here | Aug 27 20:05 |
| schestowitz | The point is, I have some articles in Techrights about the "bad" stereotype/label | Aug 27 20:06 |
| schestowitz | About how people who touch taboo subject are "bad" | Aug 27 20:06 |
| schestowitz | RMS for example | Aug 27 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I put truth before manner sometimes and I don't think subjects should be avoided if they are divisive or sensitive. That's how apathy is created whilst atrocious things carry on, take place, killing creatures | Aug 27 20:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Aug 27 20:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | precisely. | Aug 27 20:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | comfort is the enabler. | Aug 27 20:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | which is why mainstream media never touches anything uncomfortable. | Aug 27 20:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | except in pre-packaged misdirective tropes, such as that TIME cover. | Aug 27 20:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | for example, the idea that Gates is actually a destructive force. | Aug 27 20:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | or that the US is killing innocents daily | Aug 27 20:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | or that the iraq war had no basis | Aug 27 20:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | or that 2 party 'democracy' is a sham | Aug 27 20:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | or the very idea of 'progress' itself | Aug 27 20:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | or poverty in the first world | Aug 27 20:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | viva wikileaks | Aug 27 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | [20:11] <FurnaceBoy> which is why mainstream media never touches anything uncomfortable. | Aug 27 20:16 |
| schestowitz | I respond periodically thusly: | Aug 27 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Mainstream media | Aug 27 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Mainstream media has a market | Aug 27 20:16 |
| schestowitz | The product is the audience | Aug 27 20:16 |
| schestowitz | It sells target audience to advertisers | Aug 27 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Anyone would agree the rapist is bad | Aug 27 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Anyone would agree the thief is bad | Aug 27 20:16 |
| schestowitz | That keeps all viewers consentual | Aug 27 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Divisive content is bad for the shareholders | Aug 27 20:17 |
| schestowitz | So there are some topic which are left to politically-correct zone (no dogma, more consensus) | Aug 27 20:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | right. it sells a consensual, false, world view. | Aug 27 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Then you have the ones like Russia Today which does beyond that | Aug 27 20:18 |
| schestowitz | They can bring in 'tainted' (by mainstream) guests | Aug 27 20:18 |
| schestowitz | And not have them adhere to pre-provided script | Aug 27 20:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | i guess like all things, orwell covered it. | Aug 27 20:18 |
| schestowitz | [20:11] <FurnaceBoy> for example, the idea that Gates is actually a destructive force. | Aug 27 20:19 |
| schestowitz | He chooses his questions | Aug 27 20:19 |
| schestowitz | He has Communications Managers | Aug 27 20:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | you would be labelled an extremist for even introducing the idea | Aug 27 20:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | "you're not with us? you're against us" | Aug 27 20:19 |
| schestowitz | They have dossiers on journalists and check the questions in advance, then write up talking points for Bill. It's staged | Aug 27 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Same for politicians at high levele | Aug 27 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Same for politicians at high levels | Aug 27 20:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Aug 27 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | [20:12] <FurnaceBoy> or poverty in the first world | Aug 27 20:20 |
| schestowitz | First? | Aug 27 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Urban poverty gets covered, I think | Aug 27 20:20 |
| schestowitz | The US house prices sank | Aug 27 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Also there are tent cities | Aug 27 20:20 |
| schestowitz | The latter doesn't get covered | Aug 27 20:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: no, the consensus is that poverty is a third world phenomenon | Aug 27 20:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the whole exercise is about denying reality | Aug 27 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Or the rise in gun culture that's bought about as a result | Aug 27 20:21 |
| schestowitz | They'd show it like it's a racial issue... crime | Aug 27 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: deep poverty has ALWAYS Been present in First World | Aug 27 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: just never discussed | Aug 27 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Aug 27 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Or "bad neighbourhoods" | Aug 27 20:21 |
| schestowitz | [20:19] <FurnaceBoy> "you're not with us? you're against us" | Aug 27 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Hollywood does its part to construct an entirely false image of USA | Aug 27 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and, hundreds of millions accept it as reality. | Aug 27 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Anti-Soviet/Anti-American/Traitor/Nazi/etc | Aug 27 20:21 |
| schestowitz | [20:12] <FurnaceBoy> viva wikileaks | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Viva leakers | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Bradley | Aug 27 20:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | People give Julian too muchj credit | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | He's just going around strutting his stuff | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | I saw a TED (gates) interview with him | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | he seemed vain | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | He's just the messenger | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Like Obama to his nation | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Or the waiter to the chef | Aug 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Or rather the one who goes to prison (Bradley) | Aug 27 20:23 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, Wikipedia is not associated with pedos and Wikileaks gets associated now with al Jazeera, child molestation, rape, etc. | Aug 27 20:23 |
| schestowitz | As in, it's the "site of all those crazy fringe people" | Aug 27 20:23 |
| schestowitz | "You don't wanna cite it" | Aug 27 20:24 |
| schestowitz | And it's effective, I know people who treat Wikileaks like "them", the enemy | Aug 27 20:24 |
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| schestowitz | People don't read Greenwald | Aug 27 20:24 |
| schestowitz | They read Time | Aug 27 20:24 |
| schestowitz | "It has glossy stuff and 'photoshopped' chicks" | Aug 27 20:25 |
| schestowitz | It gives them a break from thinking :-) | Aug 27 20:25 |
| cubevector | Gates was on the cover of time | Aug 27 20:26 |
| cubevector | multiple times too | Aug 27 20:27 |
| cubevector | http://www.do-not-sleep.com/BillGates/index.htm | Aug 27 20:29 |
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| cubevector | http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,992551,00.html | Aug 27 20:31 |
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| schestowitz | Anonymous Coward: "The guy who posted that is a complete troll. See here the Glenn Beck argument: http://techrights.org/2010/08/27/personal-attacks-vs-reports/. I want to postulate that Roy Schestowitz raped and killed a young girl in 1992." | Aug 27 20:31 |
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| schestowitz | Sounds like one of the Mono trolls: http://techdirt.com/articles/20100823/04030810730.shtml#comments | Aug 27 20:31 |
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| schestowitz | They use the same talking point | Aug 27 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. See #43 | Aug 27 20:32 |
| schestowitz | The Mono booster are really at it | Aug 27 20:32 |
| schestowitz | [20:20] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: no, the consensus is that poverty is a third world phenomenon | Aug 27 20:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | /. front page | Aug 27 20:34 |
| schestowitz | It's a relative thing, peers dependent | Aug 27 20:34 |
| schestowitz | [20:21] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: deep poverty has ALWAYS Been present in First World | Aug 27 20:34 |
| schestowitz | [20:21] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: just never discussed | Aug 27 20:34 |
| schestowitz | I think not | Aug 27 20:34 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: is it?? | Aug 27 20:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Aug 27 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Techrights or Techdirt? | Aug 27 20:34 |
| schestowitz | load average: 1.40, 1.43, 1.16 | Aug 27 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Slashdot likes TechDirt and so do I | Aug 27 20:35 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/08/27/1732219/Net-On-Android-Is-Safe-Says-Microsoft | Aug 27 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I'm not seeing it in /.. | Aug 27 20:37 |
| schestowitz | [20:21] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: Hollywood does its part to construct an entirely false image of USA | Aug 27 20:38 |
| schestowitz | It's the same in other countries | Aug 27 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the /. ref was to Mono | Aug 27 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: 'de icaza suggests google switch to .net from java' etc | Aug 27 20:38 |
| schestowitz | The UK is pictured as castles and beautiful/handsome people | Aug 27 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: story on front page now | Aug 27 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Aug 27 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: quaintness | Aug 27 20:38 |
| schestowitz | So unless you follow Ken Loach you'd think the UK is like in the firm Notting Hill | Aug 27 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ditto europe | Aug 27 20:38 |
| schestowitz | [20:21] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: and, hundreds of millions accept it as reality. | Aug 27 20:39 |
| schestowitz | It gives them something to aim for | Aug 27 20:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I know. | Aug 27 20:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I've seen the distortions that result | Aug 27 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Even if they die from obesity before retiring in vain | Aug 27 20:39 |
| schestowitz | "distortions economy" :-) | Aug 27 20:40 |
| schestowitz | "Buy a boat... here's another creditr card. Carl and his wife already have 6" | Aug 27 20:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: from eating and drinking the poisons, sugar water, aspartame, fat, salt, sold to them at exorbitant prices by the supposed promised land they admire, which is actually killing them either by commerce or bombs | Aug 27 20:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: even a modest amount of travel shows the depth of deceit and damage | Aug 27 20:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: unless you stick to the 'consensus' tours | Aug 27 20:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: "we're HELPING them" | Aug 27 20:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: "Coca Cola PROVIDES JOBS to these benighted people" | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | You need to travel | Aug 27 20:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Foxconn too | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | It drives up oil consumption | Aug 27 20:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I do :) | Aug 27 20:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and yes it does | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | The further away, the more people will appreciate you | Aug 27 20:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I try not to make elective trips | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | And you must take photos and share with CI....... FB | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Coca Cola is wage slaverer | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Like most of its kind | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Very targets-driven | Aug 27 20:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | of course. not to mention the damage to local water systems | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Workers are mere numbers.... 6 diigits | Aug 27 20:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | imagine that. worthless, poisonous, overpriced, profiteering product, destroying local agriculture and water | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Turns out some friends of mine already know they murder union organisers | Aug 27 20:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | crime of the century | Aug 27 20:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | and it has PRESTIGE! | Aug 27 20:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | there's CACHET if you can afford to drink that shite | Aug 27 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Caramel drinks | Aug 27 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Who needs water? | Aug 27 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Hold on... | Aug 27 20:44 |
| cubevector | don't drink Coca Cola | Aug 27 20:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's just mind-blowingly absurd | Aug 27 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I have a new video I wanna show you | Aug 27 20:44 |
| cubevector | yeah | Aug 27 20:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDCz2GUC9_E&feature=digest | Aug 27 20:45 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Wal-Mart: The Human Hive .::. Size~: 121.97 KB | Aug 27 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Skip 2 minutes | Aug 27 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Excellent! | Aug 27 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | wb, MinceR | Aug 27 20:50 |
| schestowitz | *mad | Aug 27 20:50 |
| schestowitz | *madbot rather | Aug 27 20:50 |
| cubevector | hmmm, Jean-Louis Gassée was an Apple Exec | Aug 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Started his own biz | Aug 27 20:52 |
| cubevector | Be was not successful in getting top-tier OEMs to bundle BeOS with their hardware - only Hitachi and AST | Aug 27 20:54 |
| schestowitz | He was betrayed | Aug 27 20:55 |
| schestowitz | but there's a good FLOSS Weekly episode about it | Aug 27 20:56 |
| cubevector | he was offered 200 million of his company and he turned it down | Aug 27 20:56 |
| cubevector | amazing | Aug 27 20:56 |
| cubevector | for his company | Aug 27 20:56 |
| schestowitz | I listened to it while cleaning up the bathroom: http://www.twit.tv/floss120 | Aug 27 20:56 |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: The TWiT Netcast Network with Leo Laporte .::. Size~: 27.42 KB | Aug 27 20:56 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: he has a blog now | Aug 27 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Where I saw him bashing the Vole | Aug 27 20:57 |
| cubevector | I tried BeOS in 1997 | Aug 27 20:57 |
| cubevector | it was pretty neat | Aug 27 20:57 |
| cubevector | funny how things turn out | Aug 27 20:58 |
| cubevector | at one time I thought Amiga would be big | Aug 27 20:58 |
| cubevector | at one time I thought BeOS would be big :) | Aug 27 20:58 |
| cubevector | at least Linux has stood the test of time | Aug 27 21:00 |
| cubevector | of course we have stuff like AROS and Haiku | Aug 27 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, neighborlee | Aug 27 21:41 |
| neighborlee | hello | Aug 27 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Long time since we last chatted. You used to be active around Mono | Aug 27 21:41 |
| schestowitz | You rascal you! | Aug 27 21:41 |
| neighborlee | priorities shift ya know..get b usy over here, there suffers ,yadda ;) | Aug 27 21:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J45MXgCI1TY | Aug 27 21:42 |
| neighborlee | well | Aug 27 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Clarence Williams - You Rascal You (1931) .::. Size~: 100.83 KB | Aug 27 21:42 |
| neighborlee | I feel like mono is quickly losing steam anyway..its almost moot now that ubuntu is having mental shift on it. | Aug 27 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it does | Aug 27 21:42 |
| neighborlee | unless something changes, I think our hard work has won the day :) | Aug 27 21:42 |
| schestowitz | But don't count on it | Aug 27 21:42 |
| neighborlee | not yet ;) | Aug 27 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Apathy leaves the newbies vulnerable to linsu*** and other predators | Aug 27 21:43 |
| neighborlee | yes it can | Aug 27 21:43 |
| schestowitz | They carry on promoting it | Aug 27 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Now there's .NET developer FLorian Mueller | Aug 27 21:43 |
| schestowitz | He aligned with them | Aug 27 21:43 |
| neighborlee | who is this new person | Aug 27 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Smearing me too sometimes... and Groklaw | Aug 27 21:43 |
| neighborlee | lol he can't smear either of you | Aug 27 21:43 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: some lobbyist | Aug 27 21:43 |
| neighborlee | ahh of course | Aug 27 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Snake in the grass | Aug 27 21:43 |
| neighborlee | facts speak for themselves.. | Aug 27 21:44 |
| neighborlee | anyway what have you been up to lately | Aug 27 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Not much | Aug 27 21:46 |
| schestowitz | We made some front pages of big sites though | Aug 27 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Visitors increase, which motivates me to write more | Aug 27 21:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: another sign HuffPo subscribes to 'consensus politics' -- it syndicates TIME in a sidebar stream | Aug 27 21:48 |
| neighborlee | yes if we dont stay invested in news and get involved its our own fault if things go sour , so yeah :) | Aug 27 21:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: trying to keep the circle closed. expect attacks on wikileaks to be launched from HuffPo | Aug 27 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 27 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Julian has infiltrat0rs | Aug 27 21:49 |
| schestowitz | He wrote about them" | Aug 27 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "Let me help you" | Aug 27 21:50 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what the deal with those Swedish girls are... | Aug 27 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Does he like girls, guys, children...? Don't ask the Pentagon :-) | Aug 27 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Let's make a new name for TIME and HuffPo | Aug 27 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Like "Faux News" | Aug 27 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Make memes | Aug 27 21:50 |
| schestowitz | SLIME Magazine?> | Aug 27 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Too far... MIME? | Aug 27 21:51 |
| schestowitz | HumpingtonPOS | Aug 27 21:51 |
| MinceR | KittenHuffington Post | Aug 27 21:52 |
| MinceR | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kitten_Huffing | Aug 27 21:52 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Kitten Huffing - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 117.46 KB | Aug 27 21:52 |
| schestowitz | ArriannaPay2Posy | Aug 27 21:52 |
| schestowitz | AriannaPay2Post | Aug 27 21:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | i don't know why, but the first time i ever heard about Arianna (long time ago), i smelled a rat | Aug 27 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Arianna's Place... sounds like a motel/brothel | Aug 27 21:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | something about that kind of social opportunism... | Aug 27 21:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | that a person never shakes off... | Aug 27 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Neither does the place :-) | Aug 27 21:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | Arianna's Restaurant | Aug 27 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Badaboom | Aug 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | big badaboom? | Aug 27 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Water Cooler? | Aug 27 21:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | You can read anything you want, at Arianna's Restaurant. | Aug 27 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Arianna's Water KoolAid | Aug 27 21:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | HUff'n'Puff | Aug 27 21:54 |
| MinceR | KoolAid Cooler? | Aug 27 21:54 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: bada bingo | Aug 27 21:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Aug 27 21:54 |
| MinceR | Bada Bìng? | Aug 27 21:54 |
| MinceR | Bad A | Aug 27 21:54 |
| MinceR | from samsung | Aug 27 21:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | she's to the left, what aspartame is to sugar | Aug 27 21:54 |
| schestowitz | HUff'n'Puff is great | Aug 27 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Puff pieces | Aug 27 21:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Aug 27 21:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | hot air | Aug 27 21:54 |
| schestowitz | It works well | Aug 27 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Comical enough | Aug 27 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Not suggestive | Aug 27 21:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | and that's what they're doing, huffing and puffing the bellows of misdirection | Aug 27 21:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | inflating some balloon | Aug 27 21:55 |
| schestowitz | As put by the HUff'n'Puff, Bill gates is the world's largest vasectomy donour | Aug 27 21:55 |
| schestowitz | It sounds comical and folksy | Aug 27 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Like hypePod and Vista 7 | Aug 27 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/gianmarcog/statuses/22285174734 "Hope it's right.. RT @simonech: I think this just wrong RT @kdarty: RT @Mariusdt: Is Silverlight Unofficially Dead Now? http://bit.ly/9LhNcu" | Aug 27 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Twitter / Gian Marco Gherardi: Hope it's right.. RT @simo ... .::. Size~: 9.08 KB | Aug 27 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Is Silverlight Unofficially Dead Now? | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.96 KB | Aug 27 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Wow. My posts about Silver Lie do a lot of damage, and they're true. | Aug 27 22:42 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 27 22:43 |
| cubevector | yeah I'm totally against sliver lie now :) | Aug 27 22:49 |
| cubevector | silver even | Aug 27 22:49 |
| MinceR | shiver lie? | Aug 27 22:49 |
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