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schestowitz | http://jimmac.musichall.cz/log/?p=1069 "My Palm Pre pretty much disintegrated. What a shame that such an awesome mobile OS runs on such a lousy piece of hardware. " | Aug 29 07:08 |
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schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/25/kyrgyzstan-implosion-central-asia-threat | Aug 29 07:47 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Kyrgyzstan: the void in Asia's heart | Louise Arbour | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 161.39 KB | Aug 29 07:47 |
schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/aug/27/chilcot-inquiry-iraq-civilian-deaths | Aug 29 07:54 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Chilcot inquiry accused of fixating on west and ignoring real victims | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 80.07 KB | Aug 29 07:54 |
schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/FrDLx/ | Aug 29 09:03 |
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schestowitz | [12:43] <zoobab> pong | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:43] <schestowitz> Hey | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:43] <zoobab> the Euractive article is gone | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:43] <zoobab> do you still have a cache of it? | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:43] <schestowitz> UPLS? | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:43] <schestowitz> let me see... | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:43] <zoobab> http:// techrights.org/2010/08/26/microsoft-lobbyists-for-rand/ | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:43] <zoobab> http://www.euractiv.com/en/innovation/leaked-court-opinion-deals-hammer-blow-eu-patent-news-497119 | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:43] <schestowitz> works OK here | Aug 29 12:51 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Leaked court opinion deals hammer blow to EU patent | EurActiv .::. Size~: 42.62 KB | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:43] <schestowitz> opens ok | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:44] <schestowitz> I also have a script to back up everything I link toi | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz |  | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:51] <zoobab> ah works | Aug 29 12:51 |
schestowitz | [12:51] <schestowitz> :-) | Aug 29 12:52 |
schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20100823205223288&title=Software+patents+-+EU%3F&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=871362#c872097 | Aug 29 12:58 |
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MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/I6zFR.jpg | Aug 29 13:16 |
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MinceR | ...and there goes the crApple spam from /. | Aug 29 15:56 |
schestowitz | Maybe Malda 'converted' | Aug 29 16:12 |
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schestowitz | "Octopenis!" http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/08/friday_cephalopod_jewel_of_the_1.php | Aug 29 18:13 |
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schestowitz | http://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000304.jpg | Aug 29 18:22 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Doomed to Obscurity .::. Size~: 73.22 KB | Aug 29 18:22 |
schestowitz | wth? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2226888/?page=1 | Aug 29 19:11 |
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schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/25/cat-tosser-speaks.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29 | Aug 29 19:22 |
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schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/203302/oracles_borg_strategy_continues.html?tk=rss_news | Aug 29 20:56 |
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schestowitz | http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0816/general-mcchrystal-teach-yale/ | Aug 29 21:09 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Former commander of Afghan war to teach at Yale | Raw Story .::. Size~: 30.4 KB | Aug 29 21:09 |
schestowitz | v | Aug 29 21:22 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/16/wikileaks_double_dare/ | Aug 29 21:22 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Wikileaks double dares Pentagon hawks • The Register .::. Size~: 28.33 KB | Aug 29 21:22 |
schestowitz | http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0817/bush-ducks-media-requests-comment-mosque-furor/ | Aug 29 21:33 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Bush ducks media requests to comment on mosque furor | Raw Story .::. Size~: 62.16 KB | Aug 29 21:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yeah it;s a bit embarrassing after commissioning 9/11 and all | Aug 29 21:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: maybe they should ask Kissinger | Aug 29 21:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: or ask Bush what his Saudi buddies think | Aug 29 21:34 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/203510/pink_floyd_albums_leaving_itunes_for_great_gig_in_the_sky.html?tk=rss_news | Aug 29 21:37 |
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schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: he drinks too much perhaps | Aug 29 21:38 |
schestowitz | Info lockdown | Aug 29 21:38 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: presumably it was calculated that a statement from him would not further the Cause | Aug 29 21:39 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's logical. Bush carves out a different patch of loyalty than Palinesque fruitloops | Aug 29 21:39 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the American monarchy | Aug 29 21:39 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Jeb has eye on future Presidency and if they're stupid enough to elect 2 Bushes they'll elect 3 | Aug 29 21:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Versailles | Aug 29 21:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Bush XIV | Aug 29 21:40 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/203514/facebook_dislike_button_is_a_fake_and_i_dislike_that.html?tk=rss_news | Aug 29 21:40 |
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FurnaceBoy | haha, yeah, schadenfreude drips from that story | Aug 29 21:41 |
schestowitz | Heh. Can do that to Bush on WIkipedia? | Aug 29 21:41 |
schestowitz | Bush I don't know well enough | Aug 29 21:41 |
schestowitz | I was pro-Gore at the time | Aug 29 21:41 |
schestowitz | Gore stayed my wallpaper for 3 years | Aug 29 21:41 |
schestowitz | But he too was a puppet | Aug 29 21:41 |
FurnaceBoy | i'm not sure. | Aug 29 21:42 |
schestowitz | I was too young to know how US politics *really* worked | Aug 29 21:42 |
FurnaceBoy | they spent too much rigging that post-election deal | Aug 29 21:42 |
FurnaceBoy | if Gore was controlled they woulnd't have bothered | Aug 29 21:42 |
FurnaceBoy | it would have been painless like Obama | Aug 29 21:42 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: less combative | Aug 29 21:42 |
schestowitz | Still, conformist | Aug 29 21:42 |
FurnaceBoy | "our guy won. stand down." | Aug 29 21:42 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sure, but i suspect not controlled. | Aug 29 21:42 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the last not controlled | Aug 29 21:42 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: which was why they couldn't let him win under any circumstances | Aug 29 21:42 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they must have been blindsided by the result, luckily the backup plan worked | Aug 29 21:43 |
schestowitz | BTW, you avoid channel #techirghts? | Aug 29 21:43 |
FurnaceBoy | just not autojoining | Aug 29 21:43 |
FurnaceBoy | no reason | Aug 29 21:43 |
schestowitz | #techrights I mean | Aug 29 21:43 |
schestowitz | I only understood the full extent of the election scam some years ago | Aug 29 21:43 |
schestowitz | Saw testimonies on YouTUbe | Aug 29 21:43 |
schestowitz | You missed my remarks there | Aug 29 21:45 |
schestowitz | About N. Korea | Aug 29 21:45 |
schestowitz | How the US daemonises it | Aug 29 21:45 |
FurnaceBoy | well yes, you read the Pilger column | Aug 29 21:45 |
schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/357400/us_pushes_north_korea_twitter_freedom?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | Aug 29 21:45 |
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schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/203539/us_pushes_north_korea_on_twitter_freedom.html?tk=rss_news | Aug 29 21:46 |
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schestowitz | Hitchen has opposite opinion | Aug 29 21:46 |
schestowitz | But for me, I haven't quite seen what makes them 'evil' now | Aug 29 21:46 |
schestowitz | One sunken ship in many decades. | Aug 29 21:46 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they didn't even do that | Aug 29 21:47 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: see Pilger | Aug 29 21:47 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's another Gulf of Tonkin fabrication | Aug 29 21:47 |
schestowitz | Why? | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | Communism? | Aug 29 21:48 |
FurnaceBoy | just agitprop by the US. S.O.P. | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | Sunni Shiites games? | Aug 29 21:48 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the USA needs enemies | Aug 29 21:48 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it'll manufacture them as needed | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | KNocking them off against each other for 'instability' as pretext for rentering after 60 years? | Aug 29 21:48 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you didn't learn anything from 20thC ? :) | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | *re-entering | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | Korea is an IT powerhouse now, Seoul esp. | Aug 29 21:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's a shadow play for the boys back home. | Aug 29 21:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and UN | Aug 29 21:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: pretty soon they'll get the UN to endorse their 'version' | Aug 29 21:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if not already | Aug 29 21:49 |
schestowitz | Dr. Hans? | Aug 29 21:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: look how they stitched up Iran | Aug 29 21:49 |
schestowitz | What about Iran? | Aug 29 21:49 |
schestowitz | Women | Aug 29 21:49 |
schestowitz | They have the 'nuke' line | Aug 29 21:50 |
schestowitz | What else? | Aug 29 21:50 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they got the UN to certify the narrative about nuclear programme | Aug 29 21:50 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that's enough to underwrite a bombing | Aug 29 21:50 |
schestowitz | Stoning same as "women" umbrella, even though the punishment is very rare | Aug 29 21:50 |
FurnaceBoy | right. | Aug 29 21:50 |
schestowitz | The US used toi gas women | Aug 29 21:50 |
FurnaceBoy | Cherie 's working up that line for the European/UK 'liberals' | Aug 29 21:50 |
FurnaceBoy | left flank | Aug 29 21:50 |
schestowitz | It was no longer seen as "humane", I guess in the 70s | Aug 29 21:50 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but airstrikes are humane | Aug 29 21:50 |
schestowitz | Yes | Aug 29 21:51 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: phosphorus | Aug 29 21:51 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: DU | Aug 29 21:51 |
schestowitz | Cause you can't hear the souting | Aug 29 21:51 |
schestowitz | Or see the bl00d | Aug 29 21:51 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: flechette | Aug 29 21:51 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: cluster bombs | Aug 29 21:51 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: anti-personnel mines in your farms | Aug 29 21:51 |
schestowitz | Made in Germany IIRC | Aug 29 21:51 |
FurnaceBoy | all humane | Aug 29 21:51 |
schestowitz | still.. | Aug 29 21:51 |
schestowitz | I have a friend who worked at this bank... | Aug 29 21:51 |
schestowitz | Refused to give them funding | Aug 29 21:51 |
schestowitz | Those who fund them get promoted | Aug 29 21:52 |
schestowitz | Ethical people get ejected | Aug 29 21:52 |
FurnaceBoy | right | Aug 29 21:52 |
FurnaceBoy | bad for business | Aug 29 21:52 |
schestowitz | The banks need to just fund wars to 'win; | Aug 29 21:52 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: see also, banks in US laundering drug money for cartels | Aug 29 21:52 |
schestowitz | WHo put the Cambodia mines? | Aug 29 21:52 |
schestowitz | IIRC, Diana's troppers picked many of them | Aug 29 21:53 |
schestowitz | So easy to plant | Aug 29 21:53 |
schestowitz | So hard to remove | Aug 29 21:53 |
schestowitz | [remove remove... not remove a led] | Aug 29 21:53 |
schestowitz | *leg | Aug 29 21:53 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Aug 29 21:53 |
FurnaceBoy | but, this is the West, it's what they do | Aug 29 21:53 |
FurnaceBoy | industrial scale murder | Aug 29 21:54 |
FurnaceBoy | and a thousand year legacy of poison and 'area denial' | Aug 29 21:54 |
FurnaceBoy | thousand? I'm sure those fuckers will be killing whatever kids are left in 3000 years | Aug 29 21:54 |
schestowitz | “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” | Aug 29 21:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.wagingpeace.org/menu/action/urgent-actions/einstein/ | Aug 29 21:55 |
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schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/18/pirates_wikileaks/ | Aug 29 21:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Wikileaks clambers aboard Pirate Party network • The Register .::. Size~: 25.63 KB | Aug 29 21:58 |
schestowitz | The man with the documents | Aug 29 21:58 |
schestowitz | Remember: messenger, not hero | Aug 29 21:58 |
schestowitz | He did nothing heroic so far | Aug 29 21:58 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: inventor's remorse? (Einstein) | Aug 29 21:59 |
schestowitz | No | Aug 29 21:59 |
schestowitz | He did write in favour of the bomb | Aug 29 22:00 |
schestowitz | Until after it was dropped | Aug 29 22:00 |
schestowitz | Bad PR for him :-) | Aug 29 22:00 |
schestowitz | I could find the documentary about it, I think | Aug 29 22:00 |
schestowitz | Then there's Vonn Braun | Aug 29 22:00 |
schestowitz | Another snake glorified | Aug 29 22:00 |
schestowitz | THe list goes on.. now they have BillyG | Aug 29 22:00 |
schestowitz | Public Enemy #1 becomes (in)famous, made a leader | Aug 29 22:01 |
schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/it-people-news/people/41263-dell-brings-in-30-year-veteran- | Aug 29 22:04 |
schestowitz | PR | Aug 29 22:04 |
schestowitz | Who needs products? | Aug 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/357515/netapp_revenue_grows_36_q1?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | Aug 29 22:06 |
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schestowitz | Lawsuits vs Sun/zfs pay off? | Aug 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/357558/hp_hires_firm_lead_ceo_search_replace_hurd?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | Aug 29 22:07 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: HP hires firm to lead CEO search to replace Hurd - business issues, hewlett-packard, personnel - Techworld .::. Size~: 46.8 KB | Aug 29 22:07 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/19/iran_defacers_hit_genetics_website/ | Aug 29 22:07 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Iranian activists deface UK genetics website • The Register .::. Size~: 26.5 KB | Aug 29 22:07 |
schestowitz | "The UK's Human Genetics Commission website was hit by politically-motivated hackers on Tuesday, who defaced the site with a protest marking a Western plot to overthrow a post-WWII democratically elected leader in Iran." | Aug 29 22:08 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/19/hp_headhunter_new_flack/ | Aug 29 22:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: HP hires headhunter to replace Hurd • The Register .::. Size~: 28.54 KB | Aug 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0819/excia-assassination-afghanistan-ma-work/ | Aug 29 22:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Ex-CIA officer: Assassination strategy in Afghanistan may just work | Raw Story .::. Size~: 48.6 KB | Aug 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | "Wyclef Jean not on list of Haiti’s presidential candidates" | Aug 29 22:28 |
schestowitz | -AP | Aug 29 22:28 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Dell is another microsoft. A company made of puffery | Aug 29 22:32 |
schestowitz | brownshirt | Aug 29 22:32 |
schestowitz | ? | Aug 29 22:32 |
schestowitz | Tea bag? | Aug 29 22:32 |
FurnaceBoy | particularly the leaders. | Aug 29 22:32 |
schestowitz | Dell has huge debt, so does Microsoft | Aug 29 22:32 |
FurnaceBoy | community disorganisers | Aug 29 22:32 |
schestowitz | Biggest running debts in tech | Aug 29 22:32 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right. which means they're vehicles for enriching a few | Aug 29 22:33 |
schestowitz | Yes | Aug 29 22:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: when they implode the 'few' are far away and untouchable | Aug 29 22:33 |
schestowitz | Leaving an empty bag behind | Aug 29 22:33 |
schestowitz | Maybe | Aug 29 22:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: who would go after Gates for the cash he stole? | Aug 29 22:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: reputation white as snow | Aug 29 22:33 |
schestowitz | Parish wrote about it | Aug 29 22:33 |
schestowitz | A pyramid scheme | Aug 29 22:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: how can the law pierce the Foundation veil? You'd have to hate starving Africans | Aug 29 22:33 |
FurnaceBoy | yes. | Aug 29 22:34 |
FurnaceBoy | and Dell is a nice piece of work. | Aug 29 22:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they bribed their way into remote factories, becoming the default supplier in places who otherwise tried to rationally protect their systems from globalisation with tariffs | Aug 29 22:35 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: a crime | Aug 29 22:35 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yet nobody notices, least of all the populations they are attacking and undermining | Aug 29 22:35 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: perfect crime | Aug 29 22:35 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: see also Wal-Mart | Aug 29 22:35 |
schestowitz | And then they do a trick | Aug 29 22:36 |
schestowitz | PR | Aug 29 22:36 |
FurnaceBoy | yes. | Aug 29 22:36 |
FurnaceBoy | 'we provide jobs' | Aug 29 22:36 |
schestowitz | "If we made no factories, they would strave" | Aug 29 22:36 |
FurnaceBoy | 'we provide AMerican technology' | Aug 29 22:36 |
schestowitz | Yes, you beat me to it | Aug 29 22:36 |
schestowitz | I was typing | Aug 29 22:36 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Exactly. Nobody bought rice (or grew it) until Wal-Mart opened? | Aug 29 22:36 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: "we give access to patents. Give us your minerals" | Aug 29 22:37 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the crime in black and white: Before Wal-Mart, farmed rice. After Wal-Mart, bought overpriced rice. Profit -> foreigners | Aug 29 22:37 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Get between people and their food. | Aug 29 22:37 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: MonsantaClaus | Aug 29 22:37 |
schestowitz | Claus :) | Aug 29 22:37 |
FurnaceBoy | right. | Aug 29 22:37 |
FurnaceBoy | steal the patrimony | Aug 29 22:37 |
schestowitz | Too benign-sounding | Aug 29 22:37 |
FurnaceBoy | steal the oil | Aug 29 22:37 |
FurnaceBoy | Peru. Ecuador. Brazil. | Aug 29 22:37 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: long secret history of American theft of Brazil's natural resources. | Aug 29 22:37 |
schestowitz | Rivers=sewers | Aug 29 22:38 |
FurnaceBoy | yes. | Aug 29 22:38 |
schestowitz | forest=raw material | Aug 29 22:38 |
FurnaceBoy | steal the oil. return the waste. | Aug 29 22:38 |
schestowitz | Chavez=enemy face | Aug 29 22:38 |
schestowitz | People=wage slaves | Aug 29 22:38 |
schestowitz | ... | Aug 29 22:38 |
schestowitz | Kissinger=peace God! | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | Kill Kissinger's feet | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | For he brought peace upon your generation | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | "peace for our time.." | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | Now there's "blowback" | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time | Aug 29 22:39 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: kissinger, the ultimate manhattanite. | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | 'The phrase "peace for our time" was spoken on 30 September 1938 by British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain in his speech concerning the Munich Agreement and the Anglo-German Declaration.' | Aug 29 22:40 |
schestowitz | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/MunichAgreement_.jpg | Aug 29 22:40 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: what we got? War For Our Time. | Aug 29 22:40 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: he came from Bavaria IIRC | Aug 29 22:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: hm, yes | Aug 29 22:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it adds up | Aug 29 22:40 |
schestowitz | But portrays himself as a vbictim | Aug 29 22:40 |
schestowitz | But portrays himself as a victim | Aug 29 22:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: israel | Aug 29 22:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: personified | Aug 29 22:41 |
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schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0821/grayson-slams-mosque-debate-talk-bush-letting-911-happen/ | Aug 29 22:57 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Grayson slams mosque distraction: Talk about admin that let 9/11 happen instead | Raw Story .::. Size~: 430.53 KB | Aug 29 22:57 |
FurnaceBoy | 'letting' it happen? it was an answer to prayers. | Aug 29 23:00 |
FurnaceBoy | what would be interesting is to find a parallel in history | Aug 29 23:00 |
FurnaceBoy | has anyone tried? | Aug 29 23:00 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: taken of context? | Aug 29 23:01 |
FurnaceBoy | there must be hundreds | Aug 29 23:01 |
schestowitz | I quickly read it | Aug 29 23:01 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: taken of headline | Aug 29 23:01 |
schestowitz | They make it sound like the govt was in cahoots, acc. to him | Aug 29 23:01 |
schestowitz | He didn't mean to say this | Aug 29 23:01 |
*FurnaceBoy goes reading | Aug 29 23:01 | |
schestowitz | They made his sound like a "truther" | Aug 29 23:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right, truth slips out accidentally. | Aug 29 23:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: cue the rape allegations | Aug 29 23:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: discredit discredit | Aug 29 23:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: obama will discredit, disown this remark | Aug 29 23:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's outside the consensus set of allowed views | Aug 29 23:03 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/203870/facebook_deletes_north_korean_account_but_it_resurfaces.html?tk=rss_news | Aug 29 23:05 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Facebook Deletes North Korean Account, but It Resurfaces - PCWorld .::. Size~: 69.33 KB | Aug 29 23:05 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: we can rely on a president to define consensus view | Aug 29 23:06 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: keep watching... | Aug 29 23:06 |
FurnaceBoy | Axis of Evil | Aug 29 23:06 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: what are you getting at? | Aug 29 23:06 |
FurnaceBoy | are you going to challenge a president? | Aug 29 23:06 |
schestowitz | You don't think the govt. coordinated 9/11, do you? | Aug 29 23:06 |
schestowitz | Whether they sat back is another theory | Aug 29 23:07 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: such a view is outside allowed consensus | Aug 29 23:07 |
schestowitz | That would be the more resnable one | Aug 29 23:07 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that they sat back is not disputed | Aug 29 23:07 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that they wanted this opportunity is not disputed | Aug 29 23:07 |
schestowitz | Well, you saw many hijackeds, none stopped | Aug 29 23:07 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's a tenet of neocon | Aug 29 23:07 |
schestowitz | So sloppiness | Aug 29 23:07 |
schestowitz | Of bad intelligence | Aug 29 23:07 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: just watch what obama says about this slip | Aug 29 23:08 |
schestowitz | No slip | Aug 29 23:08 |
schestowitz | Grayson? | Aug 29 23:08 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Aug 29 23:08 |
FurnaceBoy | he'll be punished for stepping outside the bounds | Aug 29 23:08 |
FurnaceBoy | Obama is a Bush, now. the club of presidents. challenge one, you challenge them all. | Aug 29 23:09 |
FurnaceBoy | it's like an imprecation against the King (Thailand, e.g.) | Aug 29 23:09 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it didn't have to be the government orchestrating. | Aug 29 23:10 |
schestowitz | I know | Aug 29 23:10 |
schestowitz | Like I said, nonchalant | Aug 29 23:10 |
schestowitz | Today too it's hard to catch them though | Aug 29 23:10 |
FurnaceBoy | very very difficult | Aug 29 23:11 |
schestowitz | But these guys were many and learned how to fly | Aug 29 23:11 |
schestowitz | On the radar for agents | Aug 29 23:11 |
FurnaceBoy | oh, you mean those guys. | Aug 29 23:11 |
schestowitz | But that's not the story that's suppressed | Aug 29 23:11 |
FurnaceBoy | i thought you meant the conductor of the orchestra ;-) | Aug 29 23:11 |
schestowitz | This is where I don't agree with you | Aug 29 23:11 |
FurnaceBoy | FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that they sat back is not disputed | Aug 29 23:11 |
schestowitz | Grayson seems to subscribe to the theory the US was sloppy | Aug 29 23:11 |
schestowitz | not complicit | Aug 29 23:12 |
FurnaceBoy | FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that they wanted this opportunity is not disputed; it's a tenet of neocon | Aug 29 23:12 |
FurnaceBoy | Grayson's slip is STILL outside the consensus version. that's why there will be a reaction | Aug 29 23:12 |
FurnaceBoy | Beck has been trying to weave a web to conceal the rift between the consensus version and, e.g., the families of 9/11 victims | Aug 29 23:13 |
FurnaceBoy | it's part of FOx's job | Aug 29 23:13 |
schestowitz | Eww... Beck | Aug 29 23:13 |
FurnaceBoy | the victims' families are also outside the consensus view | Aug 29 23:13 |
schestowitz | FUnny thing is, trolls who stalk me try to compare me to him | Aug 29 23:13 |
FurnaceBoy | which is awkward, because you can't just go around and lock them up in Gitmo | Aug 29 23:13 |
FurnaceBoy | as they do in Russia | Aug 29 23:13 |
FurnaceBoy | when this happens (Kursk, school, theatre) | Aug 29 23:14 |
FurnaceBoy | or shoot anyone inconvenient (Politkovskaya) | Aug 29 23:14 |
FurnaceBoy | the brownshirts are working up to this | Aug 29 23:14 |
FurnaceBoy | first abortionists, then journalists | Aug 29 23:15 |
FurnaceBoy | it's a natural segue | Aug 29 23:15 |
FurnaceBoy | then authors | Aug 29 23:15 |
schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/08/22/sweden.wikileaks.assange/index.html | Aug 29 23:15 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: WikiLeaks founder says he's been targeted by smear campaign - CNN.com .::. Size~: 39.63 KB | Aug 29 23:15 |
schestowitz | Now he's accused of being pedo | Aug 29 23:16 |
FurnaceBoy | He got rotated on to the Five Minute Hate | Aug 29 23:16 |
schestowitz | I haven't seen the retraction yet | Aug 29 23:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/23/welsh_roswell/ | Aug 29 23:18 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Black helicopters circle 'Welsh Roswell' • The Register .::. Size~: 26.51 KB | Aug 29 23:18 |
schestowitz | Heh | Aug 29 23:18 |
schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/08/23/man-spreads-homelessness-awareness-on-youtube | Aug 29 23:20 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Man Spreads Homelessness Awareness on YouTube | WebProNews .::. Size~: 39.14 KB | Aug 29 23:20 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/23/australian_politics/ | Aug 29 23:24 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Australian Sex Party stands proud • The Register .::. Size~: 27.36 KB | Aug 29 23:24 |
oiaohm | We have some strange parties. | Aug 29 23:25 |
schestowitz | I became aware of this one when they wanted to make footage of female ejaculation (squirting) legal | Aug 29 23:26 |
schestowitz | It seems like they are really very much built around sex in this party | Aug 29 23:26 |
schestowitz | I wonder if the sex party has sex parties... would not shock me | Aug 29 23:26 |
FurnaceBoy | how European of you | Aug 29 23:27 |
FurnaceBoy | 'Techrights founder "not shocked" by sex party sex parties' | Aug 29 23:27 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: this was in the front page of CNN's Tech section: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/08/23/justin.bieber.song/index.html | Aug 29 23:27 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Whether he sang it or not, Justin Bieber sure can sell it - CNN.com .::. Size~: 37.52 KB | Aug 29 23:27 |
FurnaceBoy | ouch | Aug 29 23:27 |
schestowitz | I laugh at their 'news' | Aug 29 23:28 |
schestowitz | Worse than MSBBC eben | Aug 29 23:28 |
schestowitz | *even | Aug 29 23:28 |
schestowitz | http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0823/wikileaks-australia-intelligence-warned-dirty-tricks/ | Aug 29 23:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: WikiLeaks: Australia intelligence warned of dirty tricks | Raw Story .::. Size~: 91.85 KB | Aug 29 23:29 |
*oiaohm has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Aug 29 23:33 | |
schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/357932/facebook_deletes_north_korean_account_it_resurfaces?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | Aug 29 23:38 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Facebook deletes North Korean account, but it resurfaces - censorship, Facebook, internet, Internet-based applications and services - Techworld .::. Size~: 52.54 KB | Aug 29 23:38 |
schestowitz | "Rogue" state | Aug 29 23:38 |
schestowitz | Hypocrisy | Aug 29 23:38 |
schestowitz | http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0824/jimmy-carter-visit-north-korea-free-man/ | Aug 29 23:46 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Jimmy Carter to visit North Korea to free US man | Raw Story .::. Size~: 22.74 KB | Aug 29 23:46 |
schestowitz | "Northern California man sentenced to 20 years in prison for threatening Obama in anthrax hoax" http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0824/california-man-20year-sentence-anthrax-hoax/ | Aug 29 23:47 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: California man gets 20-year sentence in anthrax hoax | Raw Story .::. Size~: 24.62 KB | Aug 29 23:47 |
schestowitz | The Associated Press: "Number of US troops in Iraq falls below 50,000" | Aug 29 23:48 |
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