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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Just reported this GNOME Bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627900Aug 25 00:02
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gnufreexAdobe's dave McAlister like de Icaza. He said "see also this great post from Miguel De Icaza"Aug 25 00:08
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] East Texas Jury Actually Invalidates One Of EFF's 10 Worst Patents, Held By Infamous Patent Hoarder http://dlvr.it/4CSXQAug 25 00:08
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-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Paoli says so, and that's fine. The fight against cancer would be pursued by the colleagues at the Foundation, with a medical focus.Aug 25 00:09
schestowitzgnufreex: hehAug 25 00:16
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 24/8/2010: #Ubuntu Clusters at Google, New #GNU #Linux Releases http://techrights.org/2010/08/24/ubuntu-clusters/ #techrightsAug 25 00:19
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-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] For instance, last year software legend Paul Allen was diagnosed with actual cancer http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10399143-56.htmlAug 25 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 24/8/2010: !Ubuntu Clusters at Google, New !GNU !Linux Releases http://techrights.org/2010/08/24/ubuntu-clusters/ !techrightsAug 25 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @dpic !EFF: Apple patenting spyware to take pictures of you, record your voice through their products, and more www.reddit.com/tb/d4o ...Aug 25 00:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] What Google’s Data Center Can Teach You http://is.gd/eBIVs !ubuntu !gnu !linux !freesoftwareAug 25 01:22
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Why Hasn't The Authors Guild Freaked Out About iPad Ebook Text-to-Speech? http://dlvr.it/4Cbn5Aug 25 01:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] xTuple PostBooks is a full-featured, fully-integrated !Accounting, !ERP, and !CRM system (on GNU/Linux, !Windows, !Mac) http://is.gd/eBJfjAug 25 01:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @openbytes: Fedora-14-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso uploaded : http://bit.ly/bjxhtD !linux !fedora !fossAug 25 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxfoundation: Linuxable: Intro to Nano Text Editor: http://bit.ly/aWj0RO #linuxAug 25 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Oracle forms new 'axis of evil' against open source, claims Adobe http://ur1.ca/18d83 Wait, Adobe speaks for FOSS now?!Aug 25 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fontana maybe the patents of #Red_Hat can be sold to some outside foundation immune to takeover? Pieter's warnings made sense, Sun's tooAug 25 01:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora-14-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso at LinuxTracker .::. Size~: 75.86 KBAug 25 01:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle forms new 'axis of evil' against open source, claims Adobe • The Register .::. Size~: 24.64 KBAug 25 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @lostson: RT @amberdms: We have now made our CentOS/RHEL 4, Fedora 11 and !Fedora 12 repositories public. http://bit.ly/9lV3Cl !CentOSAug 25 01:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] GNU/Linux Day 2010 Tour http://is.gd/eBLPW !gnu !linuxAug 25 01:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Dell Introducing the Dell Aero, one of the lightest !Android smartphones http://is.gd/eBMUoAug 25 02:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: RT @WebDevOnLinux: Pinguy OS 10.04.1 http://nxy.in/z4ym7Aug 25 02:12
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-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @JustMeAmber: Microsoft Market Share Squashers @ Ohio LinuxFest’s Ubucon-check out this post by @wwwuse- http://is.gd/eAMCSAug 25 02:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Market Share Squashers to present at Ohio LinuxFest’s Ubucon | What Will We Use on June 30, 2011? .::. Size~: 55.17 KBAug 25 02:20
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] The OSS Roadmap To a Minefield of Patents http://www.talkstandards.com/the-oss-roadmap-to-a-minefield-of-patents/Aug 25 02:57
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] NY Times Comes Out In Favor Of Fixing Small Parts Of Copyright Law http://dlvr.it/4Cq3SAug 25 03:23
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-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @EFF: Jury Invalidates One of EFF's 'Most Wanted' Patents http://eff.org/r.4qdAug 25 03:39
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-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @lessig: Mark McKinnon and I are chairing a mock constitutional convention at the Coffee Party Convention. http://bit.ly/bjwZPVAug 25 03:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final score: Los Angeles #Dodgers 5, Milwaukee Brewers 3. #LABaseball #DontLoseHopeAug 25 04:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] About backups, RAID and filesystems: Btrfs - an interview with Josef Bacik http://is.gd/eC63B !fedora !freesoftware !gnu !linuxAug 25 04:57
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amarsh04http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/25/2992690.htmAug 25 05:30
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @rsandu] Dell Introducing the Dell Aero, one of the lightest #Android smartphones http://is.gd/eBMUo #dell #linuxAug 25 05:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DELL AERO – Wireless from AT&T .::. Size~: 43.39 KBAug 25 05:30
-TRT/#techrights-[ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer #disturbing http://is.gd/eALTq - Assange story gets weirder every minute.Aug 25 05:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @fontana Slides from my #linuxcon talk "Contribution Policies for Open Source Projects" are at http://ref.fedorapeople.org/fontana-li ...Aug 25 05:42
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-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Absolutely digging Oceano's album Depths.Aug 25 05:44
schestowitz"looks like the Android Aero uses Android cupcake (1.5) - That's awkward..." http://identi.ca/notice/47354557 http://identi.ca/conversation/46984104#notice-47354069Aug 25 06:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pieter Colpaert (pietercolpaert)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Aug-10 04:39:36 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.18 KBAug 25 06:03
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-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Firefox 4: Drawing arbitrary elements as backgrounds with -moz-element http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/08/mozelement/ #wow #css #greatAug 25 06:08
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is ‘Openwashing’ Azure http://ur1.ca/18q30 “openwashing” is the practice of trying to portray as “open” something which is notAug 25 06:10
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Good day all! New blog post: Introducing Ekiga http://ur1.ca/18q2zAug 25 06:10
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: OSGEEX: Itroducing Ekiga, Free your speech! .::. Size~: 48.92 KBAug 25 06:10
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Lexmark Sues 24 Companies Over Toner-Cartridge Patents http://bit.ly/afepADAug 25 06:13
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Rustock Botnet Responsible For 40% of Spam http://bit.ly/bhdu1SAug 25 06:13
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] EA Says Game Development Budgets Have Peaked http://bit.ly/9b6KHFAug 25 06:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Lexmark Sues 24 Companies Over Toner-Cartridge Patents .::. Size~: 142.18 KBAug 25 06:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot IT Story | Rustock Botnet Responsible For 40% of Spam .::. Size~: 125.12 KBAug 25 06:13
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amarsh04http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/08/users-are-still-idiots-cough-up-personal-data-despite-warnings.arsAug 25 06:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Users are still idiots, cough up personal data despite warnings .::. Size~: 30.19 KBAug 25 06:16
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] ACS:Law To Face Disciplinary Tribunal http://dlvr.it/4D89PAug 25 06:23
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-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] Excellent article about who benefits from #Oracle vs. #Google #patent suit http://bit.ly/8XQ1B5 via @sjvn #java #androidAug 25 06:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: When Oracle Sues Google, Who Really Wins? - PCWorld .::. Size~: 72.61 KBAug 25 06:24
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Relying on #Windows Sometimes Results in Death, Microsoft’s #FogComputing Breaks Down Again http://ur1.ca/18qlf #bp #spanairAug 25 06:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Relying on Windows Sometimes Results in Death, Microsofts Fog Computing Breaks Down Again | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.34 KBAug 25 06:37
schestowitzamarsh04: thanks for the urlsAug 25 06:40
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @ml2mst I'm on SIP:schestowitz@ekiga.netAug 25 06:40
amarsh04no problem, I get some via the Electronic Frontiers Australia privacy listAug 25 06:45
amarsh04some of the ABC news stuff is topical, and others like the bike ride across Africa just illustrate some points normally ignored in the course of mainstream mediaAug 25 06:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final score: Tampa Bay Rays 10, Los Angeles #Angels 3. #LABaseball #DontLoseHopeAug 25 06:47
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Any SIP client and service or hardware which is totally open (source & standard) & work on both Android & Desktop ?Aug 25 07:00
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Video Adverts On the Printed Page http://bit.ly/az7jsTAug 25 07:01
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oiaohmIt getting insane.Aug 25 07:02
oiaohmAdobe trying to make out that Oracle is evil.Aug 25 07:02
schestowitzI knowAug 25 07:03
schestowitzBy linking to de IcazaAug 25 07:03
oiaohmAdobe holds the right to throw the book at anyone what makes a PDF protection breaching software.Aug 25 07:03
oiaohmSo Adobe should be supporting OracleAug 25 07:03
oiaohmOr there means to control PDF could be lost as well.Aug 25 07:03
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] which is best ? Sipdroid Linphone IMSDroid ?Aug 25 07:06
oiaohmhttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/08/new-windows-dll-security-flaw-everything-old-is-new-again.ars  Hello lets kill lots of game mods dead.Aug 25 07:08
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oiaohmhttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/08/yahoo-transition-to-bing-finalized-in-us-canada.ars  Here comes the bingAug 25 07:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yahoo now officially powered by Bing in US, Canada .::. Size~: 27.34 KBAug 25 07:09
MinceRpdf sucks alreadyAug 25 07:09
schestowitzCanada TOO?Aug 25 07:11
schestowitzMinceR: point distribution model?Aug 25 07:11
MinceR"portable" document formatAug 25 07:13
oiaohmPDF are truely portable.Aug 25 07:13
oiaohmThey never included the useful word editable.Aug 25 07:14
MinceRas long as "portable" means that it can be read correctly on platforms where adobe ports their craptastic reader.Aug 25 07:14
MinceR(i thought it didn't mean that)Aug 25 07:14
oiaohmLinux PDF readers don't have many issues with PDF.Aug 25 07:15
oiaohmOnly issue really is when they are version out.Aug 25 07:15
oiaohmAnd that happens with adobe reader to adobe reader as well.Aug 25 07:16
oiaohmPDF specs are full open on the conditions you don't intentionally make a tool to interfer with the Adobe DRM system in PDF.Aug 25 07:17
MinceRthey don't have to have many issues to cause problems with portabilityAug 25 07:19
MinceRi have some PDFs where a particular letter in a particular font only shows up in adobe readerAug 25 07:20
oiaohmWhat program produced the PDF.Aug 25 07:20
amarsh04I've had some font issues with some pdf's - one from the Japanese space agency was almost unreadable even though it was in EnglishAug 25 07:21
oiaohmI have had font issues with some PDF inside adobe reader as well.Aug 25 07:21
oiaohmIe older versions of adobe reader.Aug 25 07:22
MinceRi have no idea.Aug 25 07:22
oiaohmBasically there is a bug.Aug 25 07:22
amarsh04I finally had success with getting access to a digital photo frame under Debian GNU/Linux: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/08/msg01278.htmlAug 25 07:22
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MinceRif adobe can't write unambiguous specs, then they should provide a free/libre reference implementationAug 25 07:22
oiaohmReally they do release test cases.  MinceRAug 25 07:23
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] New Evidence Suggests #HP CEO Was Ousted Not for Sexual Harassment http://ur1.ca/18r5m #slate #linux #webos #androidAug 25 07:23
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oiaohmJust sometimes you miss testing something.  MinceRAug 25 07:23
oiaohmA few cases with opensource pdf readers installing adobe reader on Linux has fixed it.  Ie missing font on system being issue.   All default fonts in pdf are released.Aug 25 07:24
oiaohmCase of distribition not having its fonts upto date.Aug 25 07:26
MinceRnot for me.Aug 25 07:28
oiaohmhttp://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/pdfmapping/Mapping+Resources+for+PDF   Also release this to help with the font issue MinceRAug 25 07:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mapping Resources for PDF - Mapping Resources for PDF - Adobe Open Source .::. Size~: 16.15 KBAug 25 07:31
MinceRi'm pretty sure that font was not default :>Aug 25 07:32
oiaohmNote mapping  resources for PDFAug 25 07:32
oiaohmis pdf font processing.Aug 25 07:32
oiaohmSo adobe has done all they can.  MinceRAug 25 07:33
oiaohmOther than release adobe reader fully open sourceAug 25 07:33
MinceRnot really.Aug 25 07:33
MinceRthey could have released the important parts as a free/libre library.Aug 25 07:34
oiaohmThe part that is causing the font render issues is the part I just pointed to and yes its a free/libre libraryAug 25 07:35
oiaohmIe the font mapping was a little grey in the specs and different pdf implementations were getting it wrong.Aug 25 07:36
oiaohmSo leading to problems.Aug 25 07:36
MinceRsee, bad specs.Aug 25 07:37
oiaohmRest of the specs were solid.Aug 25 07:37
MinceRor so you think. :>Aug 25 07:37
oiaohmThe font mapping one is stupid enough a language problem.Aug 25 07:37
oiaohmOnly one found in the complete spec document.Aug 25 07:38
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oiaohmInfact to be worse that section is defunct and the newer documents should straight up use unicode.  MinceRAug 25 07:39
oiaohmThat is why I asked what tool had created the document.  MinceRAug 25 07:40
MinceRand i said i don't know.Aug 25 07:41
oiaohmBecause if it was a new created document someone needs there ass kicked.Aug 25 07:41
oiaohmKnowing our luck it will turn out to be like MS PDF or something equally evil.Aug 25 07:42
oiaohmThe ISO standard form of PDF does not even include the section due to its issues.Aug 25 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @johnkoetsier: RT @rww: Android DRM Cracked! Pirating Apps is "Easy" http://rww.tw/dtW2giAug 25 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @johnkoetsier: RT @arstechnica: New, inexpensive color e-readers have Android under the hood: http://arst.ch/m5u by @segphaultAug 25 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: Mobile 3D planned for MeeGo Linux http://bit.ly/c0dnDN #linux #gnu #meegoAug 25 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @nicubunu: first evening of the nude photography camp, fellow photographers take portraits of me. clothed. how twisted is that?Aug 25 07:42
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MinceRthey never told us android shipped with DRMAug 25 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @stav: Top native !Ubuntu !Linux games http://www.helium.com/items/1931619-top-native-ubuntu-linux-gamesAug 25 07:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Top native Ubuntu (Linux) games - by Matt Remley - Helium .::. Size~: 70.17 KBAug 25 07:47
MinceR(so much for "do no evil")Aug 25 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @elmaroufy: ♺ @pscoffoni: Chez Philippe : #ORACLE et #Google : l’affaire !Java, qui a peur de qui ? http://bypsc.fr/0cr !AndroidAug 25 07:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Using !Microsoft !Windows can be lethal http://is.gd/eCmhB !securityAug 25 07:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Trojan-ridden warning system implicated in Spanair crash • The Register .::. Size~: 25.69 KBAug 25 07:57
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Can’t Do Hardware http://ur1.ca/18rdf The hardware business is proving too hard for Microsoft #kinectAug 25 07:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Cant Do Hardware | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.09 KBAug 25 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ccculp2: Are you a #Gnu/Linux user? You should register and be counted at http://counter.li.org/ !Linux !Gnu/linuxAug 25 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Microsoft is ‘Openwashing’ Azure http://ur1.ca/18q30 “openwashing”: trying to portray as “open” something which is notAug 25 08:02
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amarsh04I knew I had left out something needed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/08/msg01282.htmlAug 25 08:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: updated Re: 1908:1320 digital photo frame success with 2.6.10.1 gphoto / libgphoto2 .::. Size~: 8.09 KBAug 25 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @dpic: !EFF: Apple patenting spyware to take pictures of you, record your voice through their products, and more www.reddit.com/tb/d4oj3Aug 25 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Relying on #Windows Sometimes Results in Death, Microsoft’s #FogComputing Breaks Down Again http://ur1.ca/18qlf #bp #spanairAug 25 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft Windows glider crashes http://is.gd/eCoeD !microsoft !windowsAug 25 08:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Windows glider crashes • The Register .::. Size~: 24.81 KBAug 25 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @graziano: Considerations For #FLOSS #Hackers About #Oracle vs. #Google: http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/08/16/oracle-google.html !fsf !gnuAug 25 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Considerations For FLOSS Hackers About Oracle vs. Google - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) .::. Size~: 29.66 KBAug 25 08:27
schestowitz[07:46] <MinceR> they never told us android shipped with DRMAug 25 08:28
schestowitzI told LinusAug 25 08:28
schestowitzHe didn't careAug 25 08:28
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] More Devs Going Indie, To Gamers' Benefit http://bit.ly/ahwPG5Aug 25 08:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Games Story | More Devs Going Indie, To Gamers' Benefit .::. Size~: 47.04 KBAug 25 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @apeignier: Guitarix, simple mono amplifier for jack : http://is.gd/eCodE !linux !gnuAug 25 08:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.thevarguy.com/2010/08/24/red-hat-will-sap-acquire-linux-leader/Aug 25 08:50
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-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] The possible prosecution of WikiLeaks | Antiwar http://bit.ly/dx2nc3Aug 25 08:54
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Response to Judith Wilcox and Axel H. Horns Regarding Patents to Software Developers http://ur1.ca/18rpf #swpats #europe #effAug 25 08:59
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz IANAL, but @fontana already stepped in. I am on your side here. /me == No Software Patents, always been.Aug 25 08:59
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-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Trying to exclude WikiLeaks from shield law stinks | First Amendment Center http://bit.ly/9kQ3kgAug 25 09:00
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-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] US Drone Strike Destroys House Full of Children in Pakistan | Antiwar http://bit.ly/aIooqsAug 25 09:03
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-TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] 10 Productivity-boosting Tools for Your PHP Development: PHP Builder: "In this article I'll introduce you to ten P... http://bit.ly/cW47UaAug 25 09:11
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Digitizing Your Own Books Becoming Popular In Japan http://dlvr.it/4DSx8Aug 25 09:26
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Adobe Joins #Novell in Daemonising #Oracle and Whitewashing #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/18s08 #swpats #obstacle #scoracle #sco #hypocrisyAug 25 09:42
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @bkuhn @osamak, #Microsoft took many positions against #swpats in the early 1990s. Every #swpats holder becomes a patent troll eventuallyAug 25 09:53
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @bkuhn @jwildeboer, Does #Red_Hat believe #swpats are wrong, or is that just your personal opinion?Aug 25 09:54
schestowitzfhttp://wallstreetpit.com/41722-increased-demand-for-near-term-call-options-on-red-hatAug 25 09:57
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schestowitzSpeculationsAug 25 09:57
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz As I said already: http://is.gd/eCxJO - Red Hat thinks #swpat are not compatible with F/OSS. Guss why I work at Red Hat? ;-)Aug 25 10:02
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] LucasFilm Sues Jedi Mind Over 'Jedi' http://bit.ly/9CZZ54Aug 25 10:04
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-TRT/#techrights-[ruiseabra] RT @olpc Nepal estimates its overall #OLPC costs http://ht.ly/18I5CLAug 25 10:13
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oiaohmhttp://press.redhat.com/   I guess you have this in your set of links schestowitzAug 25 10:18
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oiaohmIe redhat press release page.Aug 25 10:18
schestowitzCaC (Catch And Convert) - Easily download and convert Videos from Videosites like YouTube, Google Video etcAug 25 10:18
oiaohmNot something I use.   I have found firefox plugins dependable enough for me.  schestowitzAug 25 10:22
schestowitzwhat time is the red hat announcement?Aug 25 10:23
oiaohmI don't know.Aug 25 10:24
oiaohmBut it should turn up on press.redhat.com if it valid.Aug 25 10:24
schestowitzor in identicaAug 25 10:26
schestowitzhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-23/stevens-says-evolution-of-cloud-computing-decades-away-video.htmlAug 25 10:27
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schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/2010/08/23/dell-3par-redhat-markets-options-isilon-hewlett-packard.htmlAug 25 10:27
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oiaohmThe release at press.redhat.com sometimes can contain extra information as well if something is slightly grey.Aug 25 10:28
schestowitzhttp://nmap.org/favicon/Aug 25 10:32
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oiaohmI would not say cloud computering is decades away.Aug 25 10:34
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/46995279#notice-47376239 "oh they will try again... they always do... until they succeed in one or other way"Aug 25 10:37
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schestowitzoiaohm: it's already herweAug 25 10:37
schestowitzFog Computing is everythingAug 25 10:37
schestowitzEven search enginesAug 25 10:37
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #insightful - Nepal calculates OLPC costs http://blog.laptop.org/2010/08/24/nepals-tco/Aug 25 10:49
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer do they all run Fedora now? #olpcAug 25 10:50
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Red Hat’s Matthew Szulik to be Honored at NCTA “0021” Awards http://ur1.ca/18soc hopefully the board will help #RedHat expand, not sellAug 25 10:51
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oiaohmReally we know cloud is fully here when we have personal cloud servers.  schestowitzAug 25 10:57
schestowitzWhat does that mean?Aug 25 10:58
schestowitzElaborate.Aug 25 10:58
schestowitzMy Seagate external hard-drive, for example, is a 'cloud' to my boxAug 25 10:59
schestowitz[I actually have 2 external Seagates here... 2 private clouds?]Aug 25 10:59
oiaohmCurrent cloud examples are mostly remote storage.Aug 25 11:00
schestowitzYesAug 25 11:00
schestowitzLike hard drivesAug 25 11:00
oiaohmTrue day of cloud would be when you PVR/DVR would also be a local cloud storage.Aug 25 11:00
schestowitzI could also move the storage like it was a VMAug 25 11:00
schestowitzLet's not say "cloud"Aug 25 11:01
oiaohmIe a form of cloud server you don't even notice as such.Aug 25 11:01
schestowitzIt's a stupid marketing termAug 25 11:01
schestowitzCall it VM or somethingAug 25 11:01
schestowitzSaaS maybeAug 25 11:01
oiaohmLocal cloud storage would be a replication of what is provide by a remote server as well.Aug 25 11:01
oiaohmcloud is the network picture for a underminate area.Aug 25 11:02
oiaohmTrue cloud is more than just SaaSAug 25 11:02
oiaohmWhile it has a single point of storage the location of data can be 100 percent determined.  So not a full cloud.Aug 25 11:03
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] First pre-release version of Fedora 14 http://ur1.ca/18ss0 #fedora #redhatAug 25 11:05
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] cloud! Cloud!! CLOUD! FOR CRYING OUT CLOUD!!! Why can't people just use the correct technical term? "Cloud" is marketing. #fogcomputingAug 25 11:07
schestowitzhttp://www.prosulum.com/2010/08/24/why-ill-never-offer-ubuntu-desktop-to-clients/Aug 25 11:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux distro focuses on audio recording http://bit.ly/9yrOrh #linux /by @WebUpd8Aug 25 11:07
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schestowitzCan one use Windows? Safely? Happily?Aug 25 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] akgraner » Blog Archive » Interview with Ubuntu IRC Council Member – Jussi Schultink http://ow.ly/2usJYAug 25 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] WebM codec 'outperforms' H.264 | bit-tech.net http://ow.ly/2usN8Aug 25 11:17
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @silner WebM codec 'outperforms' H.264 | bit-tech.net http://ow.ly/2usN8Aug 25 11:19
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] IT: Municipality of Modena removing vendor dependency office toolsAug 25 11:23
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Oracle OpenOffice.org (OOOo) continues spreading http://www.osor.eu/news/it-municipality-of-modena-removing-vendor-dependency-office-toolsAug 25 11:28
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Lexmark, HP Using Patent Law To Try To Block Replacement Ink Cartridges From The Market http://dlvr.it/4DhR2Aug 25 11:36
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blerghoh damn. i hate printer companiesAug 25 11:38
blergheach and every one of themAug 25 11:38
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Expect some cool news from Red Hat today.Aug 25 11:43
*schestowitz hates printersAug 25 11:47
blerghyeah, that tooAug 25 11:47
oiaohmPrinter tech is something that really has not improved much in the last 15 years.Aug 25 11:57
oiaohmIf anything printers today mostly are lower quality than the once 10 years ago.Aug 25 11:57
blerghgotta love the way they wont let you print black and white documents even if just one color, say yellow is emptyAug 25 12:01
blerghand the use of a color is counted as one page, even if its just a 1mm dot of that color on the pageAug 25 12:02
oiaohmYou have to watch that.Aug 25 12:02
oiaohmSome printers use colors to print the printers serial number faintly on the page.  blerghAug 25 12:03
oiaohmIn a form investagors can extract.Aug 25 12:03
blerghoh yeah, i almost forgot spyingAug 25 12:03
oiaohmYes sometimes printers will not print black and white with just black tanks due to not being able to print the spying dataAug 25 12:04
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] ♺ @bkuhn: RT @fontana @joindiaspora what's the license for your private alpha of #Diaspora? NDA? Proprietary EULA?Aug 25 12:05
oiaohmhttp://flowingdata.com/2010/01/29/save-pens-use-garamond-font/  Interesting way to test ink usage of fonts.Aug 25 12:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @fontana @joindiaspora what's the license for your private alpha of #Diaspora? NDA? Proprietary EULA?Aug 25 12:07
-TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] You'd think that prison would be a great place for FOSS. Free as in "free at last"Aug 25 12:08
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "Building a profitable model on top of a freebie open-source platform isn't ironic - it's brilliant!" the fool on Red Hat http://is.gd/eCIA1Aug 25 12:11
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 25/8/2010: #OpenSSH 5.6, #Inkscape 0.48 http://techrights.org/2010/08/25/inkscape-0-48/Aug 25 12:15
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-TRT/#techrights-[ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn RT @fontana @joindiaspora what's the license for your private alpha of #Diaspora? NDA? Proprietary EULA?Aug 25 12:16
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Techrights has just climbed to 931st in Netcraft. Thanks to all those who contribute and support! Come to IRC at http://ur1.ca/17hnaAug 25 12:23
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @bkuhn RT @fontana @joindiaspora what's the license for your private alpha of #Diaspora? NDA? >> should be GPL at end #gnu #fsfAug 25 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Techrights has just climbed to 931st in Netcraft. Thanks to all those who contribute and support! Come to IRC at http://ur1.ca/17hnaAug 25 12:27
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Novell reports poor financial results tomorrow (already warned about them in advance)Aug 25 12:50
-TRT/#techrights-[anivar] Jtd did an excellent presentation on biometric and retinal technologies & ways to spoof it with live demo #uidAug 25 12:57
schestowitzOopsAug 25 12:59
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/47016784#notice-47389671Aug 25 12:59
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schestowitzSomeone noticedAug 25 12:59
schestowitz"I thought about it a moment after I had posted"Aug 25 12:59
schestowitzWhy would anyone want anything _like_ FB just cause it has source/Aug 25 13:00
schestowitz?Aug 25 13:00
schestowitzI just don't get it,.Aug 25 13:00
cubevectorobfuscated source code is bad tooAug 25 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I've only got one thing to say about the #UVB_76 transmission is: "No! Stop! The numbers are *bad*! You gotta get away from them!" #LostAug 25 13:02
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/47016784#notice-47390088 "don't forget that facebook & twitter use a lot of Free Software (GPL or not, doesn't make a huge difference…"Aug 25 13:04
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] I think I've just received a CD-ROM infected with that proprietary Linux-hostile FS Microsoft introduced in Vista. How to check to verify..?Aug 25 13:04
-TRT/#techrights-[anivar] Usha pointing issues of data convergence via #uid. #uidai's emphasis is only on enrolment (getting u on db)Aug 25 13:04
schestowitzLike there's any Web company left that does use Free software. Even Microsoft uses Fedora spinner in its site...Aug 25 13:04
schestowitz /does/does not/Aug 25 13:05
cubevectorfrom slashdot (funny):Aug 25 13:05
cubevector"The tech asks me if I'm using Windows XP or Vista. I say I'm using Linux. He's says "Windows Linux?" "No, just Linux." "Oh, okay, Windows 98." From there he proceeded to give me help based off the idea that I was running Microsoft Windows 98 Linux Edition."Aug 25 13:05
schestowitz"…when "distribution" doesn't occur the way the GPL defines it. So AGPL is very appropriate I think." http://identi.ca/conversation/47016784#notice-47390144Aug 25 13:05
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schestowitzcubevector: heheAug 25 13:05
schestowitzcubevector: maybe a joke?Aug 25 13:05
schestowitzCould be fabricatedAug 25 13:05
cubevectorI hope soAug 25 13:05
schestowitzSome people think Linux is a Windows programAug 25 13:06
schestowitzWindows=computerAug 25 13:06
schestowitzEveythting just gets installed on computer==windows==OSAug 25 13:06
schestowitzWrong abstractive modelsAug 25 13:06
cubevectorthey must be young thenAug 25 13:06
blerghlolAug 25 13:06
-TRT/#techrights-[anivar] Rsp mp abani roy and cpi mp ajeesh pasha joins with the concerns of nouid campaign. #uidAug 25 13:06
cubevectorsome people still use the term cpu to mean the whole computerAug 25 13:07
schestowitzI have this new CD with photosAug 25 13:07
schestowitzBurned with WindowsAug 25 13:07
schestowitzLinux won't mount itAug 25 13:07
blergh"whats this lunix thing you keep talking about? use a real OS like windows Vista"Aug 25 13:07
schestowitzIt freezes when I try manuallyAug 25 13:07
schestowitzWindows opened it fine on someone else's PCAug 25 13:07
schestowitzCould it be Microsoft's anti-Linux FS again?Aug 25 13:07
cubevectorwhat fs does the cd use?Aug 25 13:08
schestowitzI don't knowAug 25 13:08
schestowitzWindows won't say eitherAug 25 13:08
blerghschestowitz: what program did you use to burn it?Aug 25 13:08
schestowitzI didn't burn itAug 25 13:08
cubevectoryou can use dd to copy it I guessAug 25 13:08
schestowitzSomething on WindowswAug 25 13:08
schestowitzcubevector: there's no access to it from hereAug 25 13:08
schestowitzIt treats it like it's not thereAug 25 13:08
cubevectorI can't look AROS fs, it's a real painAug 25 13:08
cubevectorunder LinuxAug 25 13:09
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oiaohmThere are a few things it could be schestowitzAug 25 13:09
cubevectordirty disc for oneAug 25 13:09
oiaohmfatx for one.Aug 25 13:10
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Look-Alike Tubes Lead To Hospital Deaths http://bit.ly/aRxESFAug 25 13:10
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cubevectorhitachi mini-disc was a pain tooAug 25 13:10
schestowitzCould it be this? http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20070422083715451Aug 25 13:11
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schestowitzoiaohm: what's FATX?Aug 25 13:11
schestowitzI think it was burned on XPAug 25 13:11
schestowitzAnd XP can access thatAug 25 13:11
schestowitzI want to be sure it's/not Microsoft's faultAug 25 13:11
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schestowitzThere's this "LIVE" thing...Aug 25 13:12
schestowitz'Having heard that Vista's CD/DVD burn utility by default uses a nonstandard format, possibly as a result of yet another one of Microsoft's lock-in schemes, I decided to check things out for myself. That would also give me a nice chance to see what Vista was all about."Aug 25 13:12
cubevectorwell it might be safer to have _one_ XP box around just in caseAug 25 13:12
schestowitz"In the article, I attempted to find out more about the way Vista burns CD's and DVD's, and in particular about the format Vista uses by default, something which Microsoft calls Live File System, or LFS in short."Aug 25 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I must remember to make iced !coffee based on the current temperature, not the calendar. At 18℃ (64℉) outside, it's just making me shiver.Aug 25 13:12
blerghschestowitz: thats probably the case if you used the built-in cd burning softwareAug 25 13:13
cubevectorsome developers who reverse engineer some scannewr protocols use XP and Linux togetherAug 25 13:13
cubevectorscannerAug 25 13:13
blerghmost other software uses ISO-9660 file system for CDsAug 25 13:13
schestowitzWell, I guess I'll have to find workaroundsAug 25 13:13
schestowitzVacation photos are on thereAug 25 13:14
blerghand then some people say MS DOESNT try to lock you in :/Aug 25 13:15
cubevectorbah, of course they _try_ to lock you inAug 25 13:15
schestowitzextFATAug 25 13:16
schestowitzexFATAug 25 13:16
schestowitzRemember?Aug 25 13:16
cubevectornever used exFATAug 25 13:16
schestowitz"Install Windows to access cam's photos.."Aug 25 13:16
schestowitzMicrosoft still uses RAND to attack Linux usersAug 25 13:17
schestowitz"You can use Linux, but first pay Microsoft"Aug 25 13:17
schestowitz"yes. so AGPL :-)" http://identi.ca/conversation/47020290#notice-47390889Aug 25 13:17
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cubevectorsee, I don't want 8.3 filenames, so ISO9660 doesn't really cut itAug 25 13:17
cubevectorI want descriptive filenamesAug 25 13:18
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz always did, always will.Aug 25 13:18
cubevectorthe only time I want ISO9660 is when I'm using FreeDOSAug 25 13:18
schestowitzI can't seem to find simple evidence that they go with agpl* http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&&sa=X&ei=0wl1TK3UPMXAswbN06WOBg&ved=0CBkQBSgA&q=diaspora+gpl&spell=1Aug 25 13:18
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blerghcubevector: does UDF help?Aug 25 13:19
cubevectorsureAug 25 13:19
blerghi never really paid attention to the FS in CDs so i never noticed what most use :PAug 25 13:19
cubevectorsome black box dvd players truncate the display thoughAug 25 13:19
cubevectorso you can't see the entire filename :-/Aug 25 13:20
cubevectorthere's JuiletAug 25 13:20
cubevectorprobably other ones as wellAug 25 13:20
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Chainsaw Massacre outside of office is over. Now cleaning is needed, I guess.Aug 25 13:20
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oiaohmjuilet reads fine on Linux or at least it mounts and you might need to do a few mount opionts to make file appearAug 25 13:24
oiaohmSame with udfAug 25 13:24
oiaohmexfat was the one I was thinking of.Aug 25 13:24
oiaohmIf it that you are kinda in hell.Aug 25 13:24
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] We are all an open book http://ur1.ca/18wik Except Google execs, they manipulate their search resultsAug 25 13:25
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oiaohmhttp://code.google.com/p/exfat/ is worth a short schestowitzAug 25 13:27
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amarsh04it took my dual-core amd64 with 4 GiB RAM nearly 45 minutes to build a 2.6.35 kernel with all but two config options set as for DebianAug 25 13:31
amarsh04from observing the build, it appears that the number of wireless drivers have been increasing significantly over the past few major kernel releasesAug 25 13:31
schestowitzatheros for one thing (gpl last year)Aug 25 13:32
oiaohmNot the only area amarsh04Aug 25 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Greva fiscală http://is.gd/eCPkVAug 25 13:32
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schestowitzoiaohm: I don't think amarsh04 has 64gb of ram and 64,000 cpusAug 25 13:33
oiaohmAt the rate of driver merge another 6 months ie 2/3 kernel releases all drivers worth while outside mainline will have been merged.Aug 25 13:33
oiaohmOnly 64G ram with 64,000 cpus that would be insane.Aug 25 13:33
schestowitzI just threw out there numbersAug 25 13:34
oiaohmFor nice running you do like 1 gb per core.Aug 25 13:34
schestowitzIt can do far more than that, ram-wiseAug 25 13:34
schestowitzroadrunner has more cores, I thinkAug 25 13:34
oiaohmI know a few 16 000 core systems.Aug 25 13:35
oiaohmPersonally.Aug 25 13:35
MinceRgeekingsAug 25 13:35
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sebsebsebHiAug 25 13:37
sebsebseb Aug 25 13:37
schestowitzoiaohm: to run vista*?Aug 25 13:39
schestowitzhttp://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/10692/windows-for-supercomputers-needs-less-memory-than-vista/Aug 25 13:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows for Supercomputers needs less memory than Vista - Techworld.com .::. Size~: 109.33 KBAug 25 13:39
schestowitzif your pc is slow with vista*, try Windows for SupercomputersAug 25 13:40
MinceRwinblows doesn't scale so that won't help :>Aug 25 13:41
schestowitzSays a lot about what Microsoft sets as goal for Windows for SupercomputersAug 25 13:41
schestowitzC:/> topAug 25 13:42
schestowitzno command foundAug 25 13:42
MinceRlolAug 25 13:42
schestowitzC:/> top 500Aug 25 13:42
schestowitzERORR: haha. Are you insaneAug 25 13:42
MinceRthere's no top in cygwin, either :>Aug 25 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Congratulations Singapore on winning the bronze 4-1 against Montenegro at YOG Football. Bright future for SG football finally! #yogwave #fbAug 25 13:42
schestowitzBunch of guys in shorts... who cares?Aug 25 13:43
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Would a Greek-Turkish war imply failure of NATO? http://bit.ly/bDEUrx #troll #oin #linuxAug 25 13:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Patents: The Open Invention Network (OIN): Oracle vs. Google is its biggest debacle so far .::. Size~: 66.8 KBAug 25 13:44
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @ffii it would imply NATO is no UNAug 25 13:48
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] The open source way is going mainstream. http://opensource.com/business/10/8/mckinsey-quarterly-and-open-source-wayAug 25 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: McKinsey Quarterly and the open source way | opensource.com .::. Size~: 38.79 KBAug 25 13:48
cubevectorone gig per core? I think you could run with less than thatAug 25 13:49
schestowitzDepends on taskAug 25 13:49
cubevectorI've run 384 meg on dual for yearsAug 25 13:49
schestowitzRay tracing needs detailed maps of scenes in RAMAug 25 13:50
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Election Watcher Files Affidavit Saying He Saw Sequoia Employee Illegally Connect To E-Voting Tabulator http://dlvr.it/4Dw1dAug 25 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Election Watcher Files Affidavit Saying He Saw Sequoia Employee Illegally Connect To E-Voting Tabulator | Techdirt .::. Size~: 26.23 KBAug 25 13:50
cubevectorporting top isn't hardAug 25 13:52
cubevectorI ported it to zaurusAug 25 13:52
amarsh04enough btrfs under "GPL2 or later" to support GRUB2 (ie read-only): http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-08/msg00081.htmlAug 25 13:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Re: BTRFS and grub-extras legal position .::. Size~: 5.87 KBAug 25 13:52
cubevectorwhat is the purpose of grub2?Aug 25 13:54
MinceRwinblows has different data for processes, thoughAug 25 13:55
MinceRand probably no proc filesystemAug 25 13:55
cubevectorah that's trueAug 25 13:55
cubevectornot a simple portAug 25 13:56
cubevectorin that caseAug 25 13:56
*schestowitz knows grubs's devAug 25 13:56
amarsh04grub2 is a universal bootloader, and lets you pick which os's and kernels to load from a menuAug 25 13:56
schestowitz'@schestowitz: see "our promise" http://is.gd/eCPdm We promise to you that Diaspora will be aGPL software which will relea……'  http://identi.ca/conversation/47021606#notice-47392719Aug 25 13:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kickstarter Pitch .::. Size~: 8.32 KBAug 25 13:57
schestowitz"We promise to you that Diaspora will be aGPL software which will released at the end of the summer."Aug 25 13:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.18 KBAug 25 13:57
amarsh04whatever happened to release early, release often?Aug 25 13:58
schestowitzI guess startign a 'local' FB would be OKAug 25 13:58
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] First Review of Avatar Special Edition http://bit.ly/ajNybaAug 25 13:58
cubevectorI've always used grub < 1..0Aug 25 13:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Entertainment Story | First Review of Avatar Special Edition .::. Size~: 47.09 KBAug 25 13:58
schestowitzLike an oiffice social networkAug 25 13:58
cubevectorgrub < 1.0Aug 25 13:58
oiaohmgrub 2 is designed to fix a lot of the issues grub 1.0 has.Aug 25 13:59
cubevectorI'm just trying to think what old grub can't doAug 25 13:59
cubevectorI've booted AROS, Linux and FreeDOS with itAug 25 14:00
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Fasten your seat belts - starts at 17:00 CEST - Red Hat Webcast - http://is.gd/eCRIiAug 25 14:00
cubevectormaybe it doesn't work well with doze 7Aug 25 14:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat to Present Technology Roadmap Webcast on August 25 | Business Wire .::. Size~: 62.73 KBAug 25 14:00
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer you must already know what it's aboutAug 25 14:01
amarsh04grub2 includes ata.mod so that it can get past BIOS addressing limitations, support for more filesystems and architectures than grub1, also supports GPT partitionsAug 25 14:01
oiaohmAlso grub2 has a rescue mode to cope with insane configuration files.Aug 25 14:02
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Scalability matters. Real software freedom too. Eucalyptus tries to adapt - http://is.gd/eCRUn But is it enough?Aug 25 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marten Mickos defends honor of Ubuntu's Koala food • The Register .::. Size~: 28.69 KBAug 25 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] s/they're/there are/Aug 25 14:02
amarsh04and the grub-rescue-pc package has an iso image that can be used for booting and fixing problemsAug 25 14:03
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Companies will always grow and they will acquire another companies. finally they will become larger then the developed countries itselfAug 25 14:03
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz yep. But I am embargoed till 17:00 CEST ;-)Aug 25 14:05
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Red Hat announcement comes. I knew it. Leaping Ballmer is leaving to join Red Hat as CEO and take care of that "obligation to compensate us"Aug 25 14:05
cubevectorGPT looks a bit ominousAug 25 14:06
cubevectorbeing part of EFIAug 25 14:08
oiaohmGPT predates EFIAug 25 14:09
oiaohmAlso grub2 does support EFIAug 25 14:10
cubevectoryeah I'd rather not use EFIAug 25 14:10
oiaohmI really would prefer of the coreboot design had been the lead.Aug 25 14:11
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Any suggestion on any Cheap device or mobile phone which has - wifi & SIP (audio+video). All I need wifi and SIP. #office #telephonyAug 25 14:11
cubevectorthat's my next projectAug 25 14:12
sebsebsebhehAug 25 14:13
sebsebsebI am doing one of thseAug 25 14:13
sebsebseblive chatsAug 25 14:13
sebsebsebtrying to get a lap top recommendedAug 25 14:13
oiaohmhttp://xkcd.com/705/Aug 25 14:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: xkcd: Devotion to Duty .::. Size~: 8 KBAug 25 14:13
sebsebsebhrm I am not being responded toAug 25 14:14
sebsebsebnowAug 25 14:14
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer OK, good. I know it's nothing shockingly bad then.Aug 25 14:14
sebsebsebmaybe it was to technicalAug 25 14:14
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Novell has announced some proprietary fog something. Let's see if #RedHat can match it with Free software today. http://ur1.ca/18xt7Aug 25 14:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Novell Announces General Availability of Novell Cloud Security Service -- WALTHAM, Mass., Aug. 24 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- .::. Size~: 55.06 KBAug 25 14:15
cubevectorthe laptop situation isn't too goodAug 25 14:15
schestowitzsebsebseb: live chats?Aug 25 14:15
schestowitzYou met a girl, eh?Aug 25 14:15
sebsebsebschestowitz: no with nova techAug 25 14:15
schestowitzThey're goodAug 25 14:15
sebsebsebschestowitz: maybe I need to try someone elseAug 25 14:16
schestowitzI use their machine ATMAug 25 14:16
sebsebsebI am not being replied toAug 25 14:16
schestowitzI see...Aug 25 14:16
schestowitzI never needed to contact themAug 25 14:16
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "Gabriel plant Vorwahl über SPD-Kanzlerkandidaten" - http://is.gd/eCT6R - ich schlage 0815 vor :-)Aug 25 14:16
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sebsebsebschestowitz: maye my message was to technicalAug 25 14:16
schestowitzwhat was it?Aug 25 14:17
schestowitzpaste hereAug 25 14:17
sebsebsebor  when mentioning WIndows and the recovery partition calling it silly recovery partition, wasn't a good ideaAug 25 14:17
schestowitzor in -socialAug 25 14:17
schestowitzTo not make noise here, it's OTAug 25 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Just reported this #GNOME_Bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627941Aug 25 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Just reported this #GNOME_Bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627943Aug 25 14:17
sebsebsebor I had to much unessary detail with itAug 25 14:17
sebsebsebmaybe thats itAug 25 14:17
cubevectorfor laptop with coreboot there's Getac, Roda, and OLPCAug 25 14:18
schestowitzsebsebseb: windows needs to recover a lotAug 25 14:18
cubevectorthat's itAug 25 14:18
schestowitzit even has "safe" modeAug 25 14:18
schestowitzWhich is a puphemismAug 25 14:18
schestowitzit8euphAug 25 14:18
schestowitzIt should should be called "emergency" modeAug 25 14:18
sebsebsebMy brother wants to buy a new lap top, and I am helping him find a good one. I was recommended Novatech by people online. I was thinking no OS since his computer useage is pretty basic, and so a Linux distro will be rather ideal for him. However I wonder about hardware being compatible, for example the wireless and graphics card. I also think as a secondary OS that he may as well have Windows 7, but in that case I want a DVD for it to come withAug 25 14:18
sebsebsebthe computer, not just a sily recovery partition.Aug 25 14:18
schestowitzYou launch it when there's an emergencyAug 25 14:18
cubevectorblahAug 25 14:19
schestowitzsebsebseb: that's polite, it's ok in contextAug 25 14:19
cubevectoruse doze only for reversingAug 25 14:19
schestowitzmaybe understaffed atmAug 25 14:19
sebsebsebthen no reply and I putAug 25 14:19
sebsebsebIs there a lap top you would recommend?Aug 25 14:19
sebsebseband no replyAug 25 14:19
cubevectorsebsebseb, panasonic toughbooks work good with LinuxAug 25 14:19
schestowitzsebsebseb: start a new session and reaskAug 25 14:19
cubevectorbut not coreboot compatibleAug 25 14:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: yep going toAug 25 14:20
sebsebsebin fact this is really my secondAug 25 14:20
sebsebseband I notice I get differnet people :)Aug 25 14:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: is it ok to cal it a silly recovery partition?  I mean they are, but is it really ok to call it one in that kind of thing?Aug 25 14:20
schestowitznoAug 25 14:20
sebsebsebyeah I should take that outAug 25 14:20
sebsebsebwhen I re ask :DAug 25 14:20
schestowitzThey must think, "another Linux l33tist"Aug 25 14:21
sebsebsebWhat should I change the above to?Aug 25 14:21
schestowitzyou could check specs and google to ensure Linux compatAug 25 14:21
sebsebsebmaybe a bit to unessarey deatils in it, like I was sayingAug 25 14:22
schestowitzsebsebseb: maybe you can buy from acerAug 25 14:22
schestowitzand get a refundAug 25 14:22
schestowitzTim is working on thatAug 25 14:22
sebsebseboh I just got a reply from himAug 25 14:22
schestowitz:-)Aug 25 14:26
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cubevector3 grand for a Getac B300Aug 25 14:26
cubevectornot cheapAug 25 14:27
sebsebsebI was given this link by himAug 25 14:29
cubevectorI got a semi-rugged tougbook CF-48 for $225Aug 25 14:29
cubevectorusedAug 25 14:29
sebsebsebsomeone I know online gave me it last night, but I wonder about this one since ATIAug 25 14:29
sebsebsebhttp://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/xplora.htmlAug 25 14:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The xplora Laptop @ Novatech .::. Size~: 82.4 KBAug 25 14:29
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @fosspatents I've just checked filter for the first time in 2 days and found 3 comments of your there. Approved now.Aug 25 14:29
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @fosspatents we all have our disagreements. Would be easy if you could just debunk Groklaw re funding from Microsoft. It's simple.Aug 25 14:30
cubevectorI'm pretty sure Acer sold some models with Linux on itAug 25 14:31
schestowitzsebsebseb: ATI is OKAug 25 14:31
schestowitzUnless your brother has advanced needsAug 25 14:31
schestowitzLike heavy gaming... Enemy Territory is GPLed now thoughAug 25 14:32
schestowitzAnd light for today's cardAug 25 14:32
schestowitzI could set up dual-head with ATI since 2003 at leastAug 25 14:32
schestowitzOn SUSE, then UbuntuAug 25 14:32
cubevectorATI is goodAug 25 14:32
cubevectorit's my first choiceAug 25 14:33
schestowitz"  ATI Radeon X1200 Mobile PCI Express Graphics"Aug 25 14:33
schestowitzsebsebseb: from freedom POV, ATI is betterAug 25 14:33
schestowitzWe need to support ATI for doing the right thing (AMD rather)Aug 25 14:33
schestowitz"OS Compliance"Aug 25 14:33
schestowitzInstead of "OS"Aug 25 14:33
cubevectorbut he's paying the windows tax on that acerAug 25 14:33
cubevectorhardly idealAug 25 14:33
schestowitzThey don't put Linux 2.6.3x in thereAug 25 14:34
schestowitzcubevector: he's notAug 25 14:34
schestowitzIt's NovatechAug 25 14:34
schestowitzWindows is an addonAug 25 14:34
schestowitzThe price does not include OSAug 25 14:34
schestowitzOS is like 70 quid for WindersAug 25 14:34
schestowitz" 15.6" Wide XGA 1366 x 768 LED TFT"Aug 25 14:34
schestowitzsebsebseb: looks like a nice machineAug 25 14:34
schestowitz" AMD Dual Core TK42 1.6Ghz Processor"Aug 25 14:35
cubevectorah I seeAug 25 14:35
cubevectorgoodAug 25 14:35
schestowitzNo paymens to neither criminalAug 25 14:35
schestowitzNeither Intel nor MicrosoftAug 25 14:35
cubevectorcan I get that in Canada?Aug 25 14:35
schestowitzNoAug 25 14:35
oiaohmATI in a laptop with newer kernels coming out is ok with LinuxAug 25 14:35
schestowitz"Aug 25 14:35
schestowitzHome Delivery  45 In StockAug 25 14:35
schestowitzPortsmouth 45 In StockAug 25 14:35
schestowitzReading 5 in stockAug 25 14:35
schestowitzPortishead 5 in stockAug 25 14:35
schestowitzCardiff 4 in stockAug 25 14:35
schestowitz"Aug 25 14:35
oiaohmIe since they fixed up open source power mangement.Aug 25 14:35
schestowitzcubevector: see the dropbox aboveAug 25 14:36
schestowitzdropdown boxAug 25 14:36
schestowitz"No OS as option"Aug 25 14:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: ATI has issues with Ubuntu thoughAug 25 14:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: ok its Mandriva that is going on, but I still wonderAug 25 14:36
schestowitzWhat issues?Aug 25 14:37
schestowitzlower framerate?Aug 25 14:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: not working properlyAug 25 14:37
schestowitzlook at card name and LinuxAug 25 14:37
cubevectorok, so I need a novatech-like company in CanadaAug 25 14:37
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=ATI+Radeon+X1200+Mobile+PCI+Express+Graphics+linuxAug 25 14:38
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schestowitzcubevector: I learned about them in USENETAug 25 14:38
schestowitzI tell sebsebseb nowAug 25 14:38
schestowitzWord of mouthAug 25 14:38
oiaohm3d support is lacking.Aug 25 14:38
oiaohmIn areas.Aug 25 14:38
oiaohmStill with ATI.Aug 25 14:38
oiaohmBut compared to a laptop with intel graphics it rocks.Aug 25 14:39
oiaohmAnd nvidia binary driver for Linux does power suck.Aug 25 14:39
oiaohmIe really why I said ATI in a laptop with newer kernels is ok.Aug 25 14:39
oiaohmI did not say great.Aug 25 14:39
schestowitzfor dual there's no other choice sometimesAug 25 14:40
cubevectorsure, my 486 has ATI, still worksAug 25 14:40
oiaohmATI also generate less heat than Nvidia.Aug 25 14:40
oiaohmSo nicer in laptops.Aug 25 14:40
cubevectorexactly soAug 25 14:40
oiaohmYes a laptop you cannot have everything.Aug 25 14:41
cubevectoralvio sells barebones AcerAug 25 14:41
cubevectorand Hp, and LenovoAug 25 14:42
oiaohmAlso the open source drivers for after evergreen ati cards has already started development.Aug 25 14:42
oiaohmSo ATI is starting to catchup and sync.Aug 25 14:42
cubevectorand also MSI tooAug 25 14:42
sebsebsebschestowitz: there is  a newish card from ATIAug 25 14:45
sebsebsebcan you guys quarrantee thoughAug 25 14:45
sebsebsebthat the lap top I linked to, would work well with Mandriva?Aug 25 14:45
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oiaohmMost of us would not give a bet on a distribution.  There is too much risk of  somehting distrobution added messing up.Aug 25 14:47
oiaohmTo say a single one will work.Aug 25 14:47
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Swedish press conference, earlier recorded, with Wikileaks/Assange now live on SVT http://bit.ly/aOYG3IAug 25 14:47
oiaohmIts how to get our tails skinned.  sebsebsebAug 25 14:47
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cubevectorI can only guarantee that pansonic CF-48 will work with FedoraAug 25 14:47
cubevectorand most Acers will workAug 25 14:48
oiaohmFedora has newer parts than Mandriva so has higher rates of working.Aug 25 14:48
oiaohmYou start with the source based distributions then to fedora then it starts dropping for for hardware support.Aug 25 14:49
sebsebsebright wellAug 25 14:49
oiaohmDo you like a source based distribution at all sebsebsebAug 25 14:49
sebsebsebFedora, Mandrvia, Ubuntu, PC Linux OSAug 25 14:49
sebsebsebior maybe even Sabayon for that matterAug 25 14:50
sebsebsebis one of these distros likely to work nicely on that Xplora lap top?Aug 25 14:50
cubevectorI can't sayAug 25 14:50
cubevectorwhat I can say is I've tried Acer with Fedora and it worked wellAug 25 14:51
cubevectoralso I've tried Pansonic Tougbook with Fedora, dittoAug 25 14:52
oiaohmMandriva Ubuntu PC Linux OS are all basically 3 thrid level in support. From memory Sabayon is a Ubuntu subbranch.Aug 25 14:52
oiaohmBasically I have levels I assign distrobutions.Aug 25 14:52
oiaohmFor hardware support.Aug 25 14:53
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Enterprise Monitoring with Open Source by @jzb http://ow.ly/2u8Iv #foss It doesn't have to be expensive.Aug 25 14:53
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oiaohmSource based is level 1.    debian sid/fedora level 2 due to be research distributions.  level 3 debian testing  most other distributions.   Level 4 debian stable and most 1 generateration old distributions.Aug 25 14:54
oiaohmBasically so far you have not mentioned a possible level 1 distribution you like sebsebsebAug 25 14:55
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Digital Devices Deprive Brain of Needed Downtime http://bit.ly/aso82vAug 25 14:55
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @fosspatents it's not a chrome bug. It's akismet filter being sensitive to URLs. I'll respond to the approved ones now.Aug 25 14:55
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sebsebseboiaohm: Level 1?Aug 25 14:59
sebsebseboiaohm: you mean source?Aug 25 14:59
cubevectoralso check out tuxmobil.orgAug 25 14:59
sebsebsebcubevector: a hardware compatabilty site or?Aug 25 14:59
sebsebseboiaohm: I like Mandriva :)Aug 25 14:59
cubevectoryeah, info on any mobile device for LinuxAug 25 14:59
sebsebseboiaohm: and I started with Fedora Core 2 and 4 nice distroAug 25 15:00
sebsebseband Ubuntu used to be okAug 25 15:00
cubevectorhttp://tuxmobil.org/novatech.htmlAug 25 15:00
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cubevectorunfortunately there's not much on novatechAug 25 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] s/have//Aug 25 15:02
sebsebsebcubevector: eh it wil probably be okAug 25 15:02
cubevectorprobably used toughbook is the best deal, and the hd has gel pack for shock absorberAug 25 15:03
sebsebsebworst case sinareo he has to use Windows 7Aug 25 15:03
cubevectorughAug 25 15:03
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MinceRwhy not a new toughbook?Aug 25 15:06
cubevectortoo expensiveAug 25 15:06
oiaohmsourced based sebsebsebAug 25 15:06
oiaohmgentoo crux and others  sebsebsebAug 25 15:06
oiaohmLevel 0 is pure source.Aug 25 15:06
cubevectorgo all the way to LFS :)Aug 25 15:07
oiaohmYep LFS is a Level 0Aug 25 15:07
sebsebsebcubevector: this is for my brother the lap topAug 25 15:07
MinceRicAug 25 15:08
cubevectora laptop with temp sensors would be a nice bonusAug 25 15:10
cubevectorsome of those things heat up a lotAug 25 15:10
-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] RE: @Neil Murphy: Your quote is right but it doesn't make my quote an out-of-context quote. One way or the other, he c… http://disq.us/l8uypAug 25 15:10
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @fosspatents if there are no reply buttons, then cache messed up. Append "?something" to the URL to override cache.Aug 25 15:14
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] The Many Ways In Which Fashion Copyrights Will Harm The Fashion Industry http://dlvr.it/4F3l5Aug 25 15:15
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] 'A Look at the Reading Habits of E-Reader Owners - WSJ.com http://is.gd/eCZ25 Me: Very interesting overview.Aug 25 15:22
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amarsh04speculation about the sale of SGOG is venturing into the "I hated it so much, I bought the company" territoryAug 25 15:28
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Techrights never deletes comments. If someone makes crude attacks on commenters and posters, then we may permban (only happened ~4 times)Aug 25 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Techrights never deletes comments. If someone makes crude attacks on commenters and posters, then we may permban (only happened ~4 times)Aug 25 15:32
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schestowitzamarsh04: for oracle?Aug 25 15:34
schestowitzWhy would Oracle hate Java? Or just Dalvik/Android?Aug 25 15:34
schestowitzJobs is good buddies with LarryAug 25 15:34
schestowitzMaybe they spoke about that "damn Android" over dinnerAug 25 15:34
schestowitzJobs said those those who want pr0n can get an Android, as though he tried to associate Google with smutAug 25 15:35
amarsh04on groklaw.net, some comments were suggesting Novell or IBM buying SCOG but most favoured a Yarro connectionAug 25 15:35
amarsh04s/SGOG/SCOG/Aug 25 15:36
schestowitzohAug 25 15:36
schestowitzI though you meant Scoracle-GoogleAug 25 15:36
schestowitz*ghtAug 25 15:36
gnufreexMicrosoft’s Fog Computing Breaks Down AgainAug 25 15:37
gnufreexHaha, good headline.Aug 25 15:37
gnufreexI don't know why I found that funny, but I laughedAug 25 15:38
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Google Testing Voice Calling In Gmail http://bit.ly/a2p73BAug 25 15:43
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Understanding Microsoft Azure Cloud Access Methods by Tom Henderson http://ow.ly/2u91G Ah, so that how it's going to work. Interesting.Aug 25 15:44
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-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "We're excited to submit the Deltacloud API to DMTF to help bring this level of interoperability to all clouds." - http://is.gd/eD1fJAug 25 15:46
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I guess that lap top will be okAug 25 15:46
schestowitzgnufreex: it's AZune [sic]Aug 25 15:48
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Cheating on Ubuntu with a Mac http://is.gd/eD1n1 An amusing take on #Ubuntu vs. #MacAug 25 15:48
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schestowitzsebsebseb: should beAug 25 15:48
schestowitzIt does work with.... malware thoughAug 25 15:49
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #Deltacloud now in Apache Incubator - http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/Aug 25 15:49
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] A Cluster In Your Pocket http://is.gd/eD1x3 Mobile phones plus clustering technology = a sort of cloud cluster.Aug 25 15:50
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-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] IDC: "open APIs and interoperability are essential to customers considering the cloud," - Red Hat delivers - http://is.gd/eD1I5Aug 25 15:51
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gnufreexschestowitz: I know, Azure...Aug 25 15:52
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Are the fools insinuating #SAP #RedHat takeover under a rock now? http://ur1.ca/190mb http://ur1.ca/190mc http://ur1.ca/190mdAug 25 15:52
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @justinsteinman: http://www.novell.com/dilbert Dilbert in datacenter storage land & how Novell might be able to help.Aug 25 15:54
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-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] route add default gw 127.0.0.1 makes my internet really awesome.Aug 25 15:55
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Resolving the Identity Crisis: Toward a Clear Path for Enterprise Applications by @SMFulton3 http://ow.ly/2u9Jr #security #netsecAug 25 15:56
-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] Given Red Hat's timing and tone of today's cloud announcements, could be part of a strategy to drive up price with a view to being acquired.Aug 25 15:56
-TRT/#techrights-[anivar] Delhi meeting Launched 'Campaign for No UID' today http://bit.ly/a811m3 #uidAug 25 15:56
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Press Relese: UID NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST - anivar's posterous .::. Size~: 19.33 KBAug 25 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Red Hat web conference starting at 1500 GMT - all about Cloud. #redhatcloud http://ur1.ca/190pr #fbAug 25 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Just discovered magcloud and I'm thrilled! Already ordered my first copy of the hacker monthly magazine! http://twurl.nl/c4e6xwAug 25 15:57
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-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @NixiePixel: Steve Jobs Is Watching You: Apple Seeking to Patent Spyware http://bit.ly/bHWBWZAug 25 16:00
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Seriously, people, if #RedHat gets acquired anytime soon, I'll eat my fedora. It's not happening.Aug 25 16:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steve Jobs Is Watching You: Apple Seeking to Patent Spyware | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.71 KBAug 25 16:00
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @brettroberts: The Pirate Bay has stolen 46x more dollars than actually exist on earth http://bit.ly/aueR35. Might explain the recessionAug 25 16:02
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @BR3NDA: RT @normnz: "Privacy group charges Apple plans to patent "traitorware" and spy on users" http://is.gd/eBBLZ #EFFAug 25 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Congratulations Bolivia on their 5-0 victory over Haiti for the Youth Olympics football game! #yogAug 25 16:02
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @jwildeboer: "Building a profitable model on top of a freebie open-source platform isn't ironic - it's brilliant!" http://is.gd/eCIA1Aug 25 16:04
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] New Tool Fosters Modern-Day 'Assembly Line' for Semantic Web App Development - Semantic Web http://bit.ly/c5VVIC by @Jenz514Aug 25 16:05
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-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] @sjvn Red Hat would be an expensive acquisition target but very large players could afford. If they just bid enough $, they will get it.Aug 25 16:10
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Dreamworks will use #redhatcloud for future film releases.Aug 25 16:13
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] CIA killer drone attacks will may radicalize Yemen | Salon http://bit.ly/9HCCAmAug 25 16:16
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-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] On #dreamworks and #redhatcloud - http://is.gd/eD4nmAug 25 16:20
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Your News is PR: The Economic Times Example http://ur1.ca/191gh #ibm #dell #fakenews #pr #microsoft #thetimes #spinAug 25 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] More censorship in Iran, lawsuits against Nokia Siemens http://ur1.ca/191f5Aug 25 16:22
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] TIME lists WikiLeaks as 20th best website in the world for 2010 http://bit.ly/cDY4HGAug 25 16:23
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-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Submit your wishes for really open clouds - we will make it work! http://is.gd/eD4Px #deltacloudAug 25 16:25
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @webmink: "Which Open Source Licence" Is The Wrong Question on ComputerWorldUK: http://bit.ly/bZPusK by @webminkAug 25 16:30
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @ryanaraine: if you’re thinking of throwing out some really old, slow hardware, consider setting up a honeypot http://bit.ly/aLgSLaAug 25 16:30
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who needs my SQL server? - Securelist .::. Size~: 18.42 KBAug 25 16:30
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "#deltacloud - Many clouds. One API. No Problem." #melikes #redhatcloud http://deltacloud.org/index.htmlAug 25 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer "#deltacloud - Many clouds. One API. No Problem." #melikes #redhatcloud http://deltacloud.org/index.htmlAug 25 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @taq Pragmatic Guide to Git http://tinyurl.com/28hm8wdAug 25 16:32
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Pragmatic Bookshelf | Pragmatic Guide to Git .::. Size~: 13.88 KBAug 25 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer Freedom restored. #deltacloud Nuff said. #redhatcloudAug 25 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mohanpram Android antipiracy (DRM) cracked http://ur1.ca/191sw !androidAug 25 16:37
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-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Freedom restored. #deltacloud Nuff said. #redhatcloudAug 25 16:38
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] Today's spectacular error: trashing the content DB, restoring from backup and losing all work today. At least they can't shoot me for 2 wks.Aug 25 16:38
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Apple Exec Stashed $150,000 In Shoe Boxes http://bit.ly/92yFigAug 25 16:38
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #redhatcloud can be used NOW. Which is better than having cloudy annoucements. #red_hat rocks.Aug 25 16:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer #redhatcloud can be used NOW. Which is better than having cloudy annoucements. #red_hat rocks.Aug 25 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] HUMAN RIGHTS NOW!Aug 25 16:42
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Is There A Better Way To Text While Driving? http://dlvr.it/4FDwcAug 25 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] This essay on © #governance by @webmink is worth reading. I don't agree 100%, but many of the key concepts are correct IMO: bit.ly/bZPusKAug 25 16:52
schestowitz [15:56] [Notice] -TRT to #techrights- [fosspatents] Given Red Hat's timing and tone of today's cloud announcements, could be part of a strategy to drive up price with a view to being acquired.Aug 25 16:55
schestowitz*LOL*Aug 25 16:55
schestowitzRed Hat FUDAug 25 16:56
schestowitz[16:10] [Notice] -TRT to #techrights- [fosspatents] @sjvn Red Hat would be an expensive acquisition target but very large players could afford. If they just bid enough $, they will get it.Aug 25 16:57
schestowitzWhat a MicrosofterAug 25 16:57
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @sjvn Seriously, people, if #RedHat gets acquired anytime soon, I'll eat my fedora. It's not happening. >Novell is the one being boughtAug 25 16:57
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Dreamworks will use #redhatcloud for future film releases.Aug 25 16:58
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Mr. FauxPatents continues to spread #RedHat FUD today, even after the announcements about #fogcomputingAug 25 16:59
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks TIME lists WikiLeaks as 20th best website in the world for 2010 http://bit.ly/cDY4HGAug 25 17:02
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Android conspiracy (DRM) cracked, Google says devs used it wrong http://ur1.ca/191sw #drm #defectivebydesignAug 25 17:07
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] “DRM is nearly always the result of a conspiracy of companies to restrict the technology available to the public." -Richard StallmanAug 25 17:08
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @osamak HUMAN RIGHTS NOW!Aug 25 17:10
-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Done creating my MathML/ODF demo. Auto generate algebra homework sets and answer keys into an ODF template.Aug 25 17:17
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] At 11am Pac / 2pm Eas / 6pm UTC / 7pm UK I am doing my weekly Ubuntu/Community Q+A vidcast - http://is.gd/eDacF - join us! #ubuntuAug 25 17:17
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schestowitzASTRO-PUNK, eh?Aug 25 17:18
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] IDG Spin: #Microsoft a Victim in Patent Racketeering, Loves Open Source http://ur1.ca/1938a the spin carries on #swpatsAug 25 17:19
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WireWulfschestowitz, ya ASTRO-PUNK on this znc i change it every once in a blue moonAug 25 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Excitement over Arctic oil http://ur1.ca/193bpAug 25 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android Users Click Ads 80% More Often Compared to #iOS, Says Study | #Android Phone Fans http://ow.ly/2uFhfAug 25 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Python 2.6.6 released [LWN.net] http://ow.ly/2uFlRAug 25 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !RedHat heads into the clouds, not into an acquisition - Computerworld Blogs http://ow.ly/2uFpEAug 25 17:27
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WireWulfheh ereaders fail againAug 25 17:30
WireWulfhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/23/AR2010082303608.html?wprss=rss_technologyAug 25 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Phoronix] ATI Catalyst 10.8 For Linux Brings OpenGL ES 2.0 http://ow.ly/2uFAZAug 25 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 50-game Atari classics collection coming to DS this fall- Destructoid http://ow.ly/2uFP3Aug 25 17:37
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Should Developers Have Access To Production? http://bit.ly/aiC4alAug 25 17:38
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Stevie Nicks Claims The Internet Destroyed Rock; Seems To Think You Need A Record Label http://dlvr.it/4FL1CAug 25 17:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stevie Nicks Claims The Internet Destroyed Rock; Seems To Think You Need A Record Label | Techdirt .::. Size~: 30.41 KBAug 25 17:40
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Nuns Donate Their Brains to Alzheimer's Research http://bit.ly/9xg8qMAug 25 17:43
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Novell India http://ur1.ca/1947f #Microsoft gains more control there over government operations #offshoring #wageslaveryAug 25 17:49
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-TRT/#techrights-[anivar] Freedom matters!! It is not only a matter of s/w RT @cyberoidx Whats with FOSS people and anti-UID sentiments?Aug 25 17:57
cubevectorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy0ybQ5QSI0Aug 25 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] I've got the latest news on the worlds new hero! #tackfilm2 http://en.tackfilm2.se/?id=1282754680249ID276Aug 25 18:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I have something great to reveal! .::. Size~: 3.04 KBAug 25 18:07
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Collage, and the Challenge of "Deniability" http://bit.ly/bM8GWQAug 25 18:19
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_GoblinHi allAug 25 18:23
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Treating Houses Like Copyright... And Then Securitizing And Selling Off The Revenue From Future Resales http://dlvr.it/4FRTdAug 25 18:38
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-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] LEAK: CIA Red Cell Memorandum on the United States as an "Exporter of Terrorism" http://bit.ly/coiatWAug 25 18:39
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_GoblinHi Jono!Aug 25 18:42
jonohey _Goblin :)Aug 25 18:43
_Goblin:)Aug 25 18:43
_GoblinGlad to see you still come here.Aug 25 18:43
_Goblinwhen is your next live show?Aug 25 18:43
_Goblinthat sounds rude....whens you next live tech show?Aug 25 18:44
_Goblin*yourAug 25 18:44
-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Should do this in topic maps. RT @isostandards: All terms and definitions in ISO standards in one database! http://ow.ly/2kW4RAug 25 18:44
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jono_Goblin, in 15mins :-)Aug 25 18:45
jonohttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-baconAug 25 18:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At Home With Jono Bacon on USTREAM: Ramblings on community, Linux and technology from Jono Bacon..  .::. Size~: 45.68 KBAug 25 18:45
jono:-)Aug 25 18:45
_Goblinsweet....I'll be there...Aug 25 18:46
_Goblinbeen busy at work so havent been able to keep up with schedules of things.Aug 25 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Higher education fails to lead to higher lifestyles http://ur1.ca/1959qAug 25 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxfoundation: Remote Administration with #Linux, from @jlwallen: http://bit.ly/90V1SBAug 25 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to SLAYRadio : http://www.slayradio.org/home.php !amiga !mod !chip !music !sceneAug 25 18:47
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #RedHat Does the Free(dom) Way What #Novell Does the Proprietary Way http://ur1.ca/19634 #FogComputing #googleAug 25 18:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat Does the Free(dom) Way What Novell Does the Proprietary Way | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.83 KBAug 25 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Scrub that....waiting for Jono Bacon - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon !linux !foss !ubuntuAug 25 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: RT @phoronix: ATI Catalyst 10.8 For Linux Brings OpenGL ES 2.0 http://ff.im/-pHteBAug 25 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: Done creating my MathML/ODF demo. Auto generate algebra homework sets and answer keys into an ODF template.Aug 25 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RedHatNews: Red Hat Cloud Foundations Centers on Portability and Interoperability, Garners Broad Industry Support http://bit.ly/bBn7ZUAug 25 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RedHatNews: RT @jwildeboer: Dreamworks will use #redhatcloud for future film releases.Aug 25 18:52
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-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Join me live for my Ubuntu / Community / Free Culture video Q+A now at http://is.gd/eDacF #ubuntu #communityAug 25 18:59
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-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] ACTA apparently taking new approach to Internet Chapter, removal of any explicit ref to secondary liability /via @malini_aisolaAug 25 19:06
-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Turkey + Swiss Cheese + Russian Dressing = HappinessAug 25 19:12
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] PrestaShop 1.3 Beginner's Guide http://bit.ly/cyboy0Aug 25 19:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] IMPORTANT: Comunicat AGF http://www.agf.ro !romaniaAug 25 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listen to some great music by Tom Smith http://www.tomsmithonline.com/ cracking stuff! ... "I fought the Troll"! a classic!Aug 25 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  AGF - Adunarea Generala a Forumistilor .::. Size~: 12.08 KBAug 25 19:17
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Novell is Up for Sale, Not #RedHat http://techrights.org/2010/08/25/takeover-and-quarterly-report/Aug 25 19:20
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-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Just used http://twilk.com to put my Twitter followers on my Twitter background. Check it out!Aug 25 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Anti-Piracy Campaigns Fail, People Keep Downloading http://tinyurl.com/34sztkx !tpb !bittorrent !piratepartyukAug 25 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Anti-Piracy Campaigns Fail, People Keep Downloading | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 39.73 KBAug 25 19:23
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/d55cg/i_really_am_an_honest_citizen_and_despite_what/Aug 25 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I really am an honest citizen and despite what your average cop thinks, my anti-police sentiments are based on real life experiences. : reddit.com .::. Size~: 595.75 KBAug 25 19:23
_GoblinTwo sides to every story I think....for a "honest" and implied law abiding citizen, he sure seems to have alot of contact with police....his life appears to be one long drama.Aug 25 19:28
_Goblinfamily robbed, house robbed...etc etcAug 25 19:29
_Goblinand in the UK its burglary....entering property as a tresspasser with intent to steal, damage...Aug 25 19:29
_Goblin9 1(a) and section 9 1(B) depending on when the intention was formed.Aug 25 19:30
_Goblin anyway...on with my posts.Aug 25 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Uncertain rape charges against Wikileaks founder in Sweden http://ur1.ca/19713Aug 25 19:32
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks founder cleared of sex allegations | AP http://yhoo.it/cFJRWzAug 25 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Novell Authorised Training Centre Goes Bust and Novell's Neighbour #LANDesk Acquired http://ur1.ca/19757 #ExcomAug 25 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Man Trademarks 'Welcome To Parry Sound,' Demands Money From Parry Sound Organizations http://dlvr.it/4FY7LAug 25 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Improved Afghan War Diary interface from Le Monde & others http://bit.ly/aPizcyAug 25 19:38
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] OMG!Mono! http://bit.ly/dAoOet #Mono boosting comes from OMG!Ubuntu! (as usual), but development is drying upAug 25 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Some Romanian MPs want to restrict Internet freedom of speech, following Chinese model [TRANSLATION] http://is.gd/eDoyb !romania !free !gnuAug 25 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Novell is Up for Sale, Not #RedHat http://techrights.org/2010/08/25/takeover-and-quarterly-report/Aug 25 20:03
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novell is Up for Sale, Not Red Hat | Techrights .::. Size~: 99.37 KBAug 25 20:03
schestowitz_Goblin:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYZWQuEb5sM&feature=digestAug 25 20:03
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-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] CIA has confirmed the validity of the "Exporting Terrorism" paper.Aug 25 20:04
_Goblinschestowitz: I wish I could watch it....theres an issue with 64bit flashAug 25 20:05
schestowitzuse tinyoggAug 25 20:05
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @rsandu Some Romanian MPs want to restrict Internet freedom of speech, following Chinese model [TRANSLATION] http://is.gd/eDoyb #romaniaAug 25 20:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Traducere .::. Size~: 1.5 KBAug 25 20:05
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] "Retro Programming" Teaches Using 1980s Machines http://bit.ly/bq67RIAug 25 20:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Hardware Story | "Retro Programming" Teaches Using 1980s Machines .::. Size~: 47.64 KBAug 25 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @alphazo: Firefox & Thunderbird profiles don't like to live in a symlinked dir. Solution is absolute path in profile.ini and IsRelative=0Aug 25 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Enhanced HTML5 support? Check. Improved JS performance? Check. Sync support built-in? It's #Firefox 4 beta 4. http://bit.ly/9tctswAug 25 20:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 4 Beta 4 Released - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 30.2 KBAug 25 20:08
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] CIA usually does not confirm, so CIA likely wants to use Red Cell leak to push for policy change in US.Aug 25 20:12
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Who anyway was the originator of the rumour about SAP buying #RedHat ? Can't find... http://ur1.ca/198nsAug 25 20:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Does a Red Hat buyout make sense?  :: The Skinny  at Local Tech Wire .::. Size~: 19.96 KBAug 25 20:20
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Video Game Exec Claims Used Games 'Cheat' Developers http://dlvr.it/4Ff8hAug 25 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] US Medical research thrown into disarray http://ur1.ca/198stAug 25 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right what to do....? Watch Mr Tumble with my lad, thats what.Aug 25 20:42
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] David Love nails it perfectly: #Capitalism is killing us. http://huff.to/cQbkCJAug 25 20:46
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] David Love nails it perfectly: #Capitalism is killing us. http://huff.to/cQbkCJ - David, please explain this to Arianna sometime.Aug 25 20:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: David A. Love: Capitalism Is Killing Us .::. Size~: 129.92 KBAug 25 20:48
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] 'many things are possible [without] annoyances..like enviro regs, workplace safety,worker's rights, &democratic govt' http://huff.to/cQbkCJAug 25 20:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: David A. Love: Capitalism Is Killing Us .::. Size~: 129.92 KBAug 25 20:50
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Low Energy Supercomputing http://bit.ly/chVeXxAug 25 21:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Hardware Story | Low Energy Supercomputing .::. Size~: 48.26 KBAug 25 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @huesudito: #openoffice 3.2.1 ready to download in the proposed repositories !ubuntu !kubuntu lucidAug 25 21:02
-TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] If they rated well, Apple would be all over it, that they chose to block it's an admission that the iPhone fails there http://bit.ly/ao3VOnAug 25 21:08
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @huesudito: #openoffice 3.2.1 ready to download in the proposed repositories #ubuntu #kubuntu lucidAug 25 21:11
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] SchoolOS is announcing 41 iso distribution centers across the whole India. http://tinyurl.com/2cvp35o #blogAug 25 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Narendra Sisodiya's weblog: SchoolOS is announcing 41 iso distribution centers across the whole India. .::. Size~: 83.59 KBAug 25 21:21
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Airport Scanner Technology Mounted On US Gov't Vans To Scan What's In Nearby Vehicles http://dlvr.it/4FmJdAug 25 21:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Noua cenzură http://is.gd/eDwKi !romania !freeAug 25 21:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Noua cenzură (1) « skeptical eye .::. Size~: 46.6 KBAug 25 21:23
schestowitz*LOL*Aug 25 21:24
schestowitzMy sister bought iPod Touch just 2 weeks ago and it's already defective !!Aug 25 21:24
schestowitzI'm LMAOAug 25 21:24
schestowitzWarrantable..Aug 25 21:25
schestowitzI'm telling her to demand a refundAug 25 21:25
schestowitzAnd toss it back at the shopAug 25 21:25
cubevectorno wonder Apple makes so much moneyAug 25 21:26
MinceRit's defective by design :>Aug 25 21:26
_GoblindamnAug 25 21:26
_Goblinyou got there before me.Aug 25 21:26
MinceR:)Aug 25 21:26
MinceRhttp://abstrusegoose.com/294Aug 25 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange breaks cover but will avoid America http://is.gd/eDwP9Aug 25 21:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange breaks cover but will avoid America | Media | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 76.88 KBAug 25 21:27
MinceRhttp://abstrusegoose.com/296Aug 25 21:28
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*jono has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)Aug 25 21:30
schestowitzI'm telling here, "you're the lucky one"Aug 25 21:30
schestowitz"They usually explode on children"Aug 25 21:30
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] My sister bought hypePod Touch 2 weeks ago and today it's defective. What a rubbish load of hardware the guys at #Apple must be using...Aug 25 21:38
-TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] Alpine Linux 2 review: LinuxBSDos: "Alpine Linux is a distribution designed primarily for use as a router, firewal... http://bit.ly/9vcjgFAug 25 21:38
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @thistleweb ...that they chose to block it's an admission that the iPhone fails there http://bit.ly/ao3VOnAug 25 21:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Alpine Linux 2 review .::. Size~: 76.89 KBAug 25 21:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Apple blocks iPhones from green ranking scheme | Environment | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 194.04 KBAug 25 21:38
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] Freda has just watched 20 minutes of unskippable trailers on a Disney DVD. Only 3 and she already understands http://is.gd/eDybsAug 25 21:40
schestowitzTurns out that the Microsofters paid attention to our posts: http://www.zunethoughts.com/news/show/99661/yes-virginia-the-zune-hd-is-still-at-most-wal-marts.htmlAug 25 21:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zune Thoughts: Yes Virginia, the Zune HD is Still at Most Wal-Marts .::. Size~: 24.24 KBAug 25 21:48
schestowitzZuneThoughts.comAug 25 21:48
schestowitzSponsored by Microsoft?Aug 25 21:48
schestowitzhttp://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/f302/yes-virginia-zune-hd-still-most-wal-marts-99661.html "On a side note, could someone explain the whole Bill Gates/Walmart connection?"Aug 25 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yes Virginia, the Zune HD is Still at Most Wal-Marts - Thoughts Media Forums .::. Size~: 55.93 KBAug 25 21:49
schestowitzHeheAug 25 21:50
schestowitzForums of Zune loversAug 25 21:50
*ThistleWeb (~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #techrightsAug 25 21:50
schestowitzThey do existAug 25 21:50
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] GPS Tracking Without a Warrant Declared Legal http://bit.ly/dzWclEAug 25 21:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | GPS Tracking Without a Warrant Declared Legal .::. Size~: 47.62 KBAug 25 21:52
ThistleWebwait until citizen journos use that to track and follow officersAug 25 21:54
ThistleWebthey won't like thatAug 25 21:54
schestowitzlike this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYZWQuEb5sM&feature=digestAug 25 21:55
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ThistleWebyeah lolAug 25 21:55
schestowitzThe police will demonise this guyAug 25 21:56
schestowitzThe one with the camera... like they do Moore or JulianAug 25 21:56
schestowitzBad people are people who expose abuse by those in powerAug 25 21:56
schestowitzGood people are people who got all the money (from doing good things, obviously!)Aug 25 21:57
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] CNN baldly lies, stating SECRET//NOFORN is lowest level of classification http://bit.ly/cpCayzAug 25 22:00
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_GoblinAndre Da Costa gets aroused......"Internet Explorer 9 is absolutely SEXY!"Aug 25 22:03
_Goblinover on Twitter.Aug 25 22:03
MinceRlolAug 25 22:03
MinceRthen he should fuck ie9Aug 25 22:03
_GoblinI think he has.....Aug 25 22:05
_Goblinit was a shame Michael Jackson didn't live to see it.Aug 25 22:06
MinceRlolAug 25 22:06
schestowitzEwww...Aug 25 22:06
schestowitzIt's an alpha though.. underage IEAug 25 22:06
_Goblinlol...Aug 25 22:06
MinceRIEs never matureAug 25 22:06
MinceRjust like everything from m$Aug 25 22:07
schestowitzYeahAug 25 22:07
schestowitzWell, I heard MJ died when he saw public hairAug 25 22:07
schestowitzpubic hair made him vomit his brains outAug 25 22:07
_Goblinlol...Aug 25 22:07
MinceR:DAug 25 22:08
schestowitzHis brain fits OKAug 25 22:08
schestowitzThough some came out from the noseAug 25 22:08
_Goblinbless him.....I think his secret burial place was Redmond Campus......he was a Windows user according to Andre.Aug 25 22:08
schestowitzWiindows will be buried laterAug 25 22:09
_Goblinthey could have thrown a few of the Kins into the hole with him.....Microsoft has one or two of those left over you know.Aug 25 22:09
schestowitzNo far from MicuelAug 25 22:09
schestowitz*MichaelAug 25 22:09
schestowitz_Goblin: yeahAug 25 22:09
_Goblin;)Aug 25 22:09
schestowitzTHey could fit all of them in one casketAug 25 22:09
_Goblinthats got to be quoted by the lurking Wintrolls.Aug 25 22:09
schestowitzOr put 10 MJ lovers in there, they're small tooAug 25 22:10
_Goblinheres the headline:Aug 25 22:10
_Goblin"FOSS Advocates delight in death of MJ"Aug 25 22:10
MinceRare you sure the whole thing didn't fit through the nose? :>Aug 25 22:10
MinceR_Goblin: lolAug 25 22:10
schestowitzHe can't be offendedAug 25 22:10
MinceRit's a little late, isn't it?Aug 25 22:10
schestowitzHis family might, had they read IRC :-)Aug 25 22:10
schestowitzMinceR: yeah, KIN isAug 25 22:10
MinceRso is "delighting in death of MJ"Aug 25 22:11
_GoblinI don't delight in his death....Aug 25 22:11
schestowitzMinceR: the cortex has the reptilian instinctsAug 25 22:11
_GoblinI relate to Andre....such a shame he never saw Windows 7.Aug 25 22:11
schestowitzI assume MJ had the basic functionalityAug 25 22:11
_Goblincould have done with a few laughs in his life.Aug 25 22:11
ThistleWebPeter Andre?Aug 25 22:11
ThistleWeb;PAug 25 22:12
_Goblinlol....Aug 25 22:12
schestowitzThe advanced stuff like memory and speech are further outside the core of the brainAug 25 22:12
schestowitzThistleWeb: PIA AndreAug 25 22:12
_Goblinsimilar....he sleeps with an artificial product which is encouraged by the masses because they know no better.Aug 25 22:12
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/d03qv/big_surprise_pope_decides_priests_who_protect/Aug 25 22:12
schestowitz*(PITAAug 25 22:12
ThistleWeblolAug 25 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] !FreedomBox: The Future We Should Seek (in #Arabic) http://osamak.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/freedombox-the-future-we-should-seek/ !arabsAug 25 22:12
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schestowitzThistleWeb: is he still around singing girly songs?Aug 25 22:13
ThistleWebno ideaAug 25 22:13
schestowitzI think his career was shorter than Bieber'sAug 25 22:13
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] New Jersey County Fights Landfill Odors Using Fragrant Spray Trucks http://bit.ly/9FaD2sAug 25 22:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Idle Story | New Jersey County Fights Landfill Odors Using Fragrant Spray Trucks .::. Size~: 36.68 KBAug 25 22:13
ThistleWebI thought he did the whole reality thing to try and resurect his one-hit ownder daysAug 25 22:13
ThistleWebwonder*Aug 25 22:14
ThistleWebthen made the mistake of touring JordanAug 25 22:14
schestowitz?Aug 25 22:14
ThistleWebbut then, maybe they're a matchAug 25 22:14
_GoblinCoincidently Slayradio is pimping Chesney Hawkes "One and Only"Aug 25 22:14
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Red Hat heads into the clouds, not into an acquisition via @sjvn http://bit.ly/bMwCtX And, so, I don't have to eat a fedora after all.Aug 25 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat heads into the clouds, not into an acquisition - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 63.74 KBAug 25 22:14
ThistleWebkate price = jordanAug 25 22:14
MinceRgnAug 25 22:14
_GoblingnAug 25 22:14
_Goblinawful, awful woman.Aug 25 22:15
ThistleWeb^^ that sounds like a couple of toddlers in plastic cars pretending to rev engines at each other at imaginary traffic lights "gn gn"Aug 25 22:15
_GoblinlolAug 25 22:16
schestowitzNoAug 25 22:16
schestowitzSounds like a couple in bedAug 25 22:16
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @atbennett: Use Puppy Linux 5.0 for secure on-the-go browsing or put it on old hardware to donate, says @lbhuston http://bit.ly/dvoYGkAug 25 22:16
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ThistleWebshe is one of the breed who seem to spend their whole existence trawling the magazines and papers for mentions of themselvesAug 25 22:16
_GoblinI havent tried Puppy for a while....should be time I give it another go.Aug 25 22:16
*schestowitz thinks _Goblin and MinceR go upstairs at the same timeAug 25 22:17
_GoblinlolAug 25 22:17
_GoblinI was responding...not following...Aug 25 22:17
ThistleWebcareful which B&B ya book though, ya might get turned awayAug 25 22:17
schestowitz_Goblin: It doesn't make it any betterAug 25 22:17
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] Not by me, but a good one. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Unusual_homeopathic_remediesAug 25 22:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unusual homeopathic remedies - RationalWiki .::. Size~: 27.82 KBAug 25 22:17
_Goblinand Mincers in for a shock as Michelle has gone to bed...Aug 25 22:17
schestowitznn is the responseAug 25 22:17
ThistleWebcan't believe it's not butter? now that's an interesting phrase for a sexual discussionAug 25 22:18
_Goblin....Aug 25 22:18
schestowitzThey have a siteAug 25 22:18
schestowitzPosted here a month agoAug 25 22:18
schestowitzI can't remember what the context of the conversation wasAug 25 22:18
_Goblintalking of butter have you seen the Benecol packet.....?  It looks disgusting. It looks like something a doctor would perscribe for piles.Aug 25 22:19
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/irc-log-31072010.htmlAug 25 22:19
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/irc-log-31072010.html#tJul%2031%2008:41:29Aug 25 22:19
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ThistleWeboh, seen the new cadburys ad for spots and stripes?Aug 25 22:19
schestowitzdaemon took over afterwards, crapfl00dingAug 25 22:19
ThistleWebit's brilliantAug 25 22:19
schestowitzjono wants daemon backAug 25 22:20
ThistleWebjono tends to want to think people can learn and are inherently decentAug 25 22:21
ThistleWebit's a nice traitAug 25 22:21
ThistleWebit's like a football manager, do you sack him after a bad run? or do you see where he's going, and that there are positive signs that stuff will get betterAug 25 22:22
ThistleWebin ryans case, he'll never change, he's had way more chances than he'd ever have gotten anywhere else, and blown it every timeAug 25 22:23
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/47066815#notice-47440001 " Funny. I had to restore my "hypepod" yesterday as it was completely misbehaving"Aug 25 22:24
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schestowitzThistleWeb: ryan just got worse this monthAug 25 22:25
ThistleWebyepAug 25 22:25
ThistleWebregardless of what was at stake, he still refused to heed any warningsAug 25 22:25
schestowitzHe behaves like a Caesar hereAug 25 22:25
ThistleWebof course he does, because he's gotten away with doing that for far too longAug 25 22:26
ThistleWebI'd guess that he never thought the hammer would fallAug 25 22:26
ThistleWeband was genuinely shocked that eventually his behaviour led to itAug 25 22:27
ThistleWebwell.....that others have turned you against his angelic behaviourAug 25 22:27
ThistleWebstill, ya make yer bedAug 25 22:29
schestowitzI usually don'tAug 25 22:30
ThistleWeblolAug 25 22:31
schestowitzI just leave it in the state I wake up inAug 25 22:31
schestowitzWHo should I 'make' it for? It's a functional item, not decorationAug 25 22:31
schestowitzIn someone comes over (not family, so let's say a girl), then it's another storyAug 25 22:32
schestowitz /In/If/Aug 25 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Dear #LazyWeb, what's state of art program for monitoring changes to a web URL? I've written two of these in my life; would rather now reuseAug 25 22:32
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] USB 3.0: Everything You Need to Know http://bit.ly/bYFXAP Nice overview, and I speak as someone who did a similar piece a while back.Aug 25 22:39
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @Computerworld: Daily "What's up with that?!" Gmail glitch turns users into accidental spammers: http://bit.ly/aO4i35 Me: Anyone see thisAug 25 22:39
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Proposed German Law Says Employers Can't Review Applicants On Facebook... But Googling Them Is Fine http://dlvr.it/4FtVhAug 25 22:39
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] When I come to think of it, the sister's hypePod Touch (I told her not to buy it) failed _twice_ in two weeks... 3 days ago all apps deletedAug 25 22:39
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Those two Apple failures are the first anecdotal ones I see. #Apple gives a bad name to #Foxconn which makes all those products (not brand)Aug 25 22:39
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Proposed German Law Says Employers Can't Review Applicants On Facebook... But Googling Them Is Fine | Techdirt .::. Size~: 24.41 KBAug 25 22:39
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Multi-touch tablet will run Linux, Android http://ur1.ca/19d4v Affordable too #Linux #android #tabletAug 25 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Multi-touch tablet will run Linux, Android - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 51.91 KBAug 25 22:41
schestowitzzoobab: Thanks!!!!! Excellent mailAug 25 22:42
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Does Peter Parker Have a Moral Responsibility to Be Spider-Man? http://is.gd/eDDhP A serious philosophical answer.Aug 25 22:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Does Peter Parker Have a Moral Responsibility to Be Spider-Man? | Big Questions Online .::. Size~: 31.53 KBAug 25 22:42
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Apple In Talks To Bring $0.99 TV Rentals To ITunes http://bit.ly/9wy3TTAug 25 22:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Apple Story | Apple In Talks To Bring $0.99 TV Rentals To ITunes .::. Size~: 48.71 KBAug 25 22:46
schestowitz_Goblin: you fed a trollAug 25 22:48
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Comparing Microsoft Azure and Other Cloud Constructions' http://is.gd/eDDSJ Me: No, they're not the same. Nice explanation.Aug 25 22:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Comparing Microsoft Azure and Other Cloud Constructions | Dell  .::. Size~: 31.5 KBAug 25 22:48
schestowitzI've supported Ubuntu since 2004Aug 25 22:48
schestowitzYou don't need to 'correct' them about my defence of Ubuntu, which I also use ATMAug 25 22:49
schestowitz_Goblin: I upset some Microsoft fansAug 25 22:50
schestowitz"http://tinyurl.com/2vra4ws - Let's see (Win 7, United, Zune HD, XBOX 360, etc). How's all of these "Zune is Dead" posts working out for you?" http://twitter.com/tromboneforhire/status/22113653741Aug 25 22:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zune Reality Log - Techrights .::. Size~: 17.82 KBAug 25 22:50
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schestowitztechrights made some major Microsoft fan sitesAug 25 22:50
schestowitzAnd Microsoft spokespeople played "damage control" for ZuneAug 25 22:50
schestowitzAnd now they troll me tooAug 25 22:50
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] You know you're getting older when your daughter sends you a LinkedIn invite & your friends' kids want to 'friend' you on Facebook.Aug 25 22:51
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/tromboneforhire "Music is a huge part of my life so, naturally, it's a huge part of my tweets, too. I'm a fan of Zune, music, gaming and community."Aug 25 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marques Lyons (tromboneforhire) on Twitter .::. Size~: 49.21 KBAug 25 22:51
schestowitzOMG, zune has FANS?Aug 25 22:51
schestowitzAnother one: http://twitter.com/j4rrodAug 25 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jarrod Justus (J4rrod) on Twitter .::. Size~: 49.61 KBAug 25 22:53
ThistleWebnimrod?Aug 25 22:53
ThistleWeboh j4rrodAug 25 22:53
schestowitzMaybe it's Ballmer's sonAug 25 22:53
schestowitzAnd other son :-)Aug 25 22:53
schestowitzAll Zune usersAug 25 22:54
schestowitzBoth of themAug 25 22:54
schestowitz"My children - in many dimensions they're as poorly behaved as many other children, but at least on this dimension I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." -Steve Ballmer (on CNN)Aug 25 22:54
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Took my first dip into Folk Metal with Eluveitie and love it - this track is awesome http://is.gd/eDEq0Aug 25 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube- Eluveitie - Brictom .::. Size~: 110.43 KBAug 25 22:54
ThistleWebI cant help picture them with ipods and iphone sunder the covers at home like a porn stash, in case dad sees themAug 25 22:54
ThistleWebsame with many MS employees, set the iphone or android phone on silent while at work and check it serupticiouslyAug 25 22:55
ThistleWebwith staff getting bonuses for shopping fellow workers who use non-MS stuff, 1984 styleAug 25 22:56
ThistleWebbonus being a free licence to a windows appAug 25 22:56
ThistleWebor even a discounted licence, given the tough ecconomic timesAug 25 22:56
schestowitzThey are forced to get Vist Phone 7Aug 25 23:02
schestowitzALl employeesAug 25 23:02
schestowitz80,000 'sales' in one dayAug 25 23:02
schestowitzBetter than 503 KIns in 40 something daysAug 25 23:02
ThistleWebread or seen 1984?Aug 25 23:03
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YBkiC-rPsY&feature=digestAug 25 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube- The Bull that didn't know the rules! .::. Size~: 92.25 KBAug 25 23:04
schestowitzThistleWeb: seenAug 25 23:04
ThistleWebthe 2 kids, both loyal to big brother, spying on mom and dad, and the neighboursAug 25 23:04
-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] I'm installing every ODF editor I can find. From Gwenell to Altantis, TextMaker to Celframe, as well as more familiar names.Aug 25 23:05
ThistleWebI kinda picture that type of environment, where staff are all watching each other for disloyalty, and being able to throw the disloyal into the next round of layoffs while removing yourself as a loyal servantAug 25 23:05
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] 'The Rise of Branded Journalism' http://is.gd/eDFsp Me: Like it or not, it's working better than many pure journalism models.Aug 25 23:08
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 25/8/2010: #MeeGo Call for Proposals (Last Day), More Sub-notebooks and Tablets With #Linux http://ur1.ca/19eglAug 25 23:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 25/8/2010: MeeGo Call for Proposals (Last Day), More Sub-notebooks and Tablets With Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 140.32 KBAug 25 23:19
schestowitzhttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9181920/Gmail_glitch_resends_messages_multiple_timesAug 25 23:24
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schestowitzBetter than no message at allAug 25 23:24
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @sjvn working to _whom_? Writers or recipients of fake stuff?Aug 25 23:39
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @TheTechScribe: New Digg Launches, Stumbles on Roll Out <- New version, new relevancy? Nyahh... http://bit.ly/beOv1B Me: Agreed.Aug 25 23:39
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Rocking The Application Indicators - http://is.gd/eDHnn #gnome #kde #ubuntu #ayatanaAug 25 23:39
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] @schestowitz Writers. On the plus side for readers, look at this way: at least you know who's paying for the work in this model.Aug 25 23:39
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Fire Protection and the Data Center: The Industry Standard You Didn’t Know About http://ow.ly/2uQKE Must read for data center designers.Aug 25 23:39
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Google Officially Brings Voice To Gmail http://bit.ly/9VJXkTAug 25 23:39
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] 'The Girl with the Insanely Long Gear List' http://is.gd/eDIeb The low-down on Salander's tech toys.Aug 25 23:39
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fire Protection and the Data Center: The Industry Standard You Didn’t Know About  «  IT Expert Voice .::. Size~: 50.26 KBAug 25 23:39
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Response To Righthaven Suit Claims That Las Vegas Review Journal Engaged In Entrapment http://dlvr.it/4G0xKAug 25 23:40
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amarsh04former whistleblower likely to enter .au parliament: http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2010/s2993406.htmAug 25 23:56
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gnufreexMiguel de Icaza is spamming James Gosling blog http://nighthacks.org/roller/jag/entry/some_more_comments#comment-1282757778000Aug 25 23:58
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-TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Decided to give Chakra a try when I wipe my Mint 8 desktop, if it's not great I have Mint 9 xfce http://bit.ly/axzpSDAug 25 23:58
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