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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Possible Treatment For Ebola http://bit.ly/axXj50 | Aug 26 00:01 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #NZICT is a Fake Group (Lobby Group) Connected to Microsoft, Foreigners http://ur1.ca/19g16 #astroturf #nz | Aug 26 00:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NZICT is a Fake Group (Lobby Group) Connected to Microsoft, Foreigners | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.45 KB | Aug 26 00:06 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: "I had a long comment, but your filter considers anything about 1000 characters spam. The twitter version of it: fine for small business apps, not fine for inventing the future." | Aug 26 00:07 |
| schestowitz | This one? | Aug 26 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Not spamming | Aug 26 00:07 |
| gnufreex | He failed at spamming | Aug 26 00:10 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Aug 26 00:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: I'm installing every ODF editor I can find. From Gwenell to Altantis, TextMaker to Celframe, as well as more familiar names. | Aug 26 00:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Please, does anyone know if it is possible to run !Android or !Meego on a „classic” smartphone, such as !Nokia E61i? At least in theory... | Aug 26 00:12 | |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: no | Aug 26 00:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Apparently That Text Can't Wait -- Not Even During Sex http://is.gd/eDLEU | Aug 26 00:27 | |
| schestowitz | He got trapped | Aug 26 00:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Digital: Apparently Texting Can't Wait, Not Even During Sex - Advertising Age - News .::. Size~: 69 KB | Aug 26 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Gosling blocks ripoffss | Aug 26 00:28 |
| _Goblin | Right, Im off.... | Aug 26 00:33 |
| _Goblin | gn | Aug 26 00:33 |
| _Goblin | nn | Aug 26 00:33 |
| _Goblin | ;) | Aug 26 00:33 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] HTC, Greens, and #EFF Go After #Apple http://techrights.org/2010/08/25/counterclaim-environment-and-traitorware/ | Aug 26 00:41 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] @schestowitz It is difficult to sustain a national SME group with less than 100 members and stay independent #nzict | Aug 26 00:44 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Take Two Told To Take A Hike In Its Attempt To Get Bioshock.com http://dlvr.it/4G7m2 | Aug 26 00:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Take Two Told To Take A Hike In Its Attempt To Get Bioshock.com | Techdirt .::. Size~: 20.04 KB | Aug 26 00:53 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] A patent portfolio of a good citizen of the ICT sector translates into post-acquisition risks #sun #redhat #sco | Aug 26 00:54 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] No one has the magic bullet but we need better patent pledge instruments for these scenarios. | Aug 26 00:55 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Ulysses was able to trick the sirens. We need robes and wax for software patent portfolios. http://bit.ly/bupcgv | Aug 26 00:58 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Touchless Gesture User Interfaces http://bit.ly/cAeF3h | Aug 26 01:10 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] You get what you deserve when you run Windows http://bbc.in/bcf19n | Aug 26 01:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Secret US military computers 'cyber attacked' in 2008 .::. Size~: 49.79 KB | Aug 26 01:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Microsoft Open Source Strategy is Upside Down. http://bit.ly/cv5D1U #linux | Aug 26 01:17 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Microsoft: We Love Open Source, But Those 'Zealots' Don't Love Us Back http://ur1.ca/19hup Latest IDG spin | Aug 26 01:21 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @ffii did you see our discussion with Red Hat? They allgedly consider an option for diffusing their #swpats in wrong hands | Aug 26 01:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] That's why legal instruments for Ulysses solutions are essential! #redhat | Aug 26 01:39 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Folks, on Friday I have an Ubuntu Global Jam at A'cuppa Tea on College Ave in Berkeley - join us! http://is.gd/eDRnS #ubuntu #locoteams | Aug 26 01:39 | |
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| sebsebseb | Oh guys bad news! | Aug 26 01:39 |
| sebsebseb | well anyone here? | Aug 26 01:40 |
| *Ziomatrix (~who@ool-44c468e3.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #techrights | Aug 26 01:43 | |
| Ziomatrix | anyone up at this time of night? | Aug 26 01:43 |
| Ziomatrix | or morning? | Aug 26 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: I am | Aug 26 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | I also have bad news! | Aug 26 01:44 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: Roy died? | Aug 26 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | no | Aug 26 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | however | Aug 26 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | I did tell someone rather new to Linux, to download Mandriva, to test a hardware issue on the Live CD, but well guess which distro they told me they downloaded instead? | Aug 26 01:44 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: Novell, SuSe? | Aug 26 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: bingo | Aug 26 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | OpenSuse | Aug 26 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | What I get for giving them the distrowatch.com link it seems hrm | Aug 26 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | back fired on me | Aug 26 01:45 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: I got one of my folks to try Linux Mint, its the XFCE community version so it should be mono free | Aug 26 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: well ok sure Mono, but | Aug 26 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | well Novell and the patents deal with Microsoft | Aug 26 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | and Moonlight as well | Aug 26 01:46 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: any distro that has Mono and/or Moonlight is on a ticking timebomb imho | Aug 26 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | altough I am using Banshee right now, really I could use another player, and uhmm last.fm doesn't even work anymore for me in Banshee | Aug 26 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | also I had to install it myself | Aug 26 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | and F-Spot is ok, but yeah there are other good viewers as well | Aug 26 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | Mono isn't really needed | Aug 26 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | and the apps it has made | Aug 26 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | however some are nice, but Mono itself uh | Aug 26 01:48 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: oh snap, I got an output error either burned it at too high a speed or the drive is faulty :( | Aug 26 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: burned what? | Aug 26 01:49 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: the Linux Mint iso | Aug 26 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | Mint uhmm not really that keen on Mint | Aug 26 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | from vm trying | Aug 26 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | however | Aug 26 01:50 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: strange considering its working off of Live DVD flawlessly | Aug 26 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | soon a version based on Debian is planned to come out :) | Aug 26 01:50 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: its among the easiest to use for most casual users and it seems to have complete compatibility out of the box with all the hardware is coming out. But that shouldn't be too hard a feet for an older Fujitsu Lifebook | Aug 26 01:52 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: I suppose though for those that don't like Ubuntu its like putting lipstick on a pig, but at least the iso doesn't come with so much | Aug 26 01:54 |
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| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: most of the regular people who help out in the Mint IRC have moved on to other distros | Aug 26 01:57 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: did those political remarks on the Israeli Palestinian conflict really do in Linux Mint's author or did many just move on to more elaborate and newer distros? | Aug 26 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: seems to be mainly experienced people who hep out in Mint IRC that yeah use othe distros | Aug 26 01:59 |
| sebsebseb | from what ThistleWeb told me | Aug 26 01:59 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: well since its based off of Ubuntu it shouldn't be too much work to get support and keep it up to date | Aug 26 02:00 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: that also means Ubuntu issues such as their badly done way of doing Plymouth | Aug 26 02:01 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: I don't see the person I attend to give this computer back to doing much with the themes | Aug 26 02:04 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: oh right | Aug 26 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | well I been finding out about a lap top for my older brother | Aug 26 02:05 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @ScottBourne: You realize you're granting worldwide, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free license 2 facebook by posting pics there? | Aug 26 02:08 | |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: does he want a performance laptop or portability? | Aug 26 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | and ZiomatrixI think I have one now that will be ok | Aug 26 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | cheapr with no OS :) | Aug 26 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | and I been thinking about maybe putting XP on as an option | Aug 26 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | dual boot | Aug 26 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | ,but he doesn't really need it at the moment, and probably not in the future either | Aug 26 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | so Mandriva :) | Aug 26 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | and if there is ever a proper reason to put Windows on, it can go on later anyway | Aug 26 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | be that a virtual machine maybe, depending on the app, or yeah dual boot | Aug 26 02:10 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: well WINE is close to DX10 compatibility | Aug 26 02:12 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: OpenGL 2.1 has already proven it can pack a good physics engine. 8_) | Aug 26 02:13 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: but true, a dual boot setup would be good for now. I already backed up the files to an external hd and Windows XP was running really slow on it anyway | Aug 26 02:14 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: I could have reformatted XP as well but I figured Linux has enough in terms of productivity support | Aug 26 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: someone just found something on schestowitz 's site techrights | Aug 26 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | using | Aug 26 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | dum de dum | Aug 26 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | Bing! | Aug 26 02:15 |
| *Ziomatrix where!? ducks and covers | Aug 26 02:16 | |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: someone must be using a crawler | Aug 26 02:17 |
| Ziomatrix | hello? | Aug 26 02:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Some insights on the momentum behind DeltaCloud (now part of Apache Foundation) - http://ur1.ca/19iww #fb | Aug 26 02:42 | |
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| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: yeah hi | Aug 26 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: A crawler searches the web and adds sites, but what did you mean? | Aug 26 02:43 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: well I'm thinking its likely a Bing! web crawler or some other organizations' that happens to use Bing! to locate tags and urls. | Aug 26 02:52 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Ansel Adams Trust Sues Guy Claiming To Have Found Long Lost Adams' Negatives For Selling Prints http://dlvr.it/4GNgT | Aug 26 03:06 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] I'm pretty good at trivial things. | Aug 26 03:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Viruses Tapped To Create Spray-On Batteries http://bit.ly/c1MPJ4 | Aug 26 03:40 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z Citing problems with #capitalism as she is practised is nothing to do with #socialism whatsoever. | Aug 26 03:41 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z D Love's criticisms not only begin with "communist" #China but many are also broadly valid of #Soviet industrialisation. Try the link | Aug 26 03:43 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] #Brazil can teach Harper how to run a census. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/25/brazil-2010-census-kalunga #cdnpoli #brasil | Aug 26 03:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brazil's census offers recognition at last to descendants of runaway slaves | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 77.59 KB | Aug 26 03:51 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Indian, not US press, has the best writeup of the CIA's "Exportation of Terrorism" leak: http://bit.ly/b07IHR | Aug 26 03:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Hindu : News / International : WikiLeaks post CIA documents on home grown terrorists .::. Size~: 41.75 KB | Aug 26 03:53 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Grad Student Invents Cheap Laser Cutter http://bit.ly/9kngQH | Aug 26 03:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Hardware Story | Grad Student Invents Cheap Laser Cutter .::. Size~: 48.73 KB | Aug 26 03:55 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Three days of global action to support alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning Sep 16-19! http://bit.ly/cn16tX | Aug 26 04:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Anyone else notice that #pingfm is having trouble keeping users logged in? | Aug 26 05:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final score: Los Angeles #Dodgers 5, Milwaukee Brewers 4. #LABaseball #DontLoseHope | Aug 26 05:37 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Teacher Asks Students To Plan a Terrorist Attack http://bit.ly/dDkyfh | Aug 26 05:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final score: Tampa Bay Rays 3, Los Angeles #Angels 12. #LABaseball #DontLoseHope | Aug 26 05:47 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] SchoolOS is announcing 41 iso distribution centers across the whole India. http://tinyurl.com/2cvp35o #blog #repeat | Aug 26 06:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Narendra Sisodiya's weblog: SchoolOS is announcing 41 iso distribution centers across the whole India. .::. Size~: 83.62 KB | Aug 26 06:12 |
| schestowitz | [01:44] <Ziomatrix> sebsebseb: Roy died? | Aug 26 06:18 |
| schestowitz | [01:47] <sebsebseb> altough I am using Banshee right now, really I could use another player, and uhmm last.fm doesn't even work anymore for me in Banshee | Aug 26 06:18 |
| schestowitz | Oh no!! That's far worse than me dying !!! :-) | Aug 26 06:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @kanarip: I still do prefer nice printf ASCII table output over shiny pie-charts #reporting #sysadmin | Aug 26 06:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: HTC, Greens, and #EFF Go After #Apple http://techrights.org/2010/08/25/counterclaim-environment-and-traitorware/ | Aug 26 06:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @douglasawh: I'm booting into a Windows-created VM with a Linux CD on a !linux host to get documents off the failed Windows VM. pure gold. | Aug 26 06:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ksaver: Boot Multiple ISO from USB (MultiBoot USB) | USB Pen Drive !Linux | Aug 26 06:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @workingwriter: New post: Searching for !Linux Project Management Tools: http://wp.me/pf0d-3e | Aug 26 06:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @politux: Making phone calls from Gmail in !Linux #mint | Aug 26 06:38 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] How to become SchoolOS ISO distributor http://tinyurl.com/2dgtjmy #blog | Aug 26 06:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: New Job, New Blog http://bit.ly/c5lBZD #linux | Aug 26 06:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @wikileaks: Three days of global action to support alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning Sep 16-19! http://bit.ly/cn16tX | Aug 26 06:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Job, New Blog « Allison Randal .::. Size~: 33.24 KB | Aug 26 06:43 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @richsharples Gartner's Yefim Natis on Red Hat's PaaS announcement : http://tinyurl.com/26hnjhz #redhatcloud @swardley 100% Open Source | Aug 26 06:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Initial Thoughts on the new Red Hat PaaS .::. Size~: 39.25 KB | Aug 26 06:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozillanews: The new Firefox Support forum http://ff.im/-pJeqH | Aug 26 06:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SUMO Blog » The new Firefox Support forum .::. Size~: 24.89 KB | Aug 26 06:53 |
| chibbo | schoolOS seems to have a nice selection of preinstalled software. great | Aug 26 06:55 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @harishpillay Some insights on the momentum behind DeltaCloud (now part of Apache Foundation) - http://ur1.ca/19iww #fb | Aug 26 07:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat News | Deltacloud Update & Momentum .::. Size~: 38.83 KB | Aug 26 07:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Access to Knowledge Project: www.a2knetwork.org http://www.youtube.com/user/ConsumersIntl#p/u/1/l_C77d7KBHk !copyright !fixc32 | Aug 26 07:17 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Would Photography Have Been Different If It Had Been Patented Up? http://dlvr.it/4Gf8P | Aug 26 07:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Would Photography Have Been Different If It Had Been Patented Up? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 29.57 KB | Aug 26 07:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ANY kind of Internet speech reglementation is censorship, no matter who applies it. Romanian MPs, let the Internet FREE or resign! | Aug 26 07:22 | |
| schestowitz | chibbo: and no mono | Aug 26 07:43 |
| schestowitz | I know the dev | Aug 26 07:43 |
| chibbo | yeah that too | Aug 26 07:43 |
| schestowitz | He learned from Techrights about Mono | Aug 26 07:43 |
| chibbo | should've left out Google chrome as well while he was at it | Aug 26 07:43 |
| schestowitz | I don't like Chrome | Aug 26 07:45 |
| schestowitz | As an idea, product | Aug 26 07:45 |
| schestowitz | Although Chromium does have power (so does Google) | Aug 26 07:45 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @rsandu ANY kind of Internet speech reglementation is censorship, no matter who applies it. Romanian MPs, let the Internet FREE or resign | Aug 26 07:45 | |
| chibbo | the most troubling thing is that it sends everything to google, even before you hit enter | Aug 26 07:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] #yog IT infra runs in a private cloud sitting at alatum cloud service provider in Singapore says IDA. btw Alatum runs #RHEL #fb | Aug 26 07:48 | |
| MinceR | (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZGIn9bpALo | Aug 26 07:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Romanian authors declare tax strike, as a protest against EXTREME fiscal bureaucracy [TRANSLATION] http://is.gd/eElYF !romania !tax !eu | Aug 26 07:53 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/d5g4s/its_sht_like_this_steve_sht_like_this/ | Aug 26 07:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It's sh!t like this, Steve. Sh!t like this. : pics .::. Size~: 506.68 KB | Aug 26 07:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Romanian authors declare tax strike, as a protest against EXTREME fiscal bureaucracy [TRANSLATION] (2) http://is.gd/eEmhu !romania !tax !eu | Aug 26 07:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Why do companies say "patented technology" when describing some proprietary products in their brochures? Patented does mean good! #fb | Aug 26 07:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @r2d221 “I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu)” —Linus Torvalds, 1991 !q | Aug 26 08:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Petiție privind greva fiscală - protest împotriva birocrației fiscale extreme http://tinyurl.com/2vlsf32 http://tinyurl.com/2egyck5 | Aug 26 08:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: RT @WebDevOnLinux: Un nouveau client de messagerie instantané pour les smartphones Android: Beejive http://goo.gl/fb/mp4l1 | Aug 26 08:13 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: " Word files requested when posting DIS in the Submission Interface " by ISO Central Secretariat | Aug 26 08:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Bill Gates’ Plan to Control US Education Proceeds as Planned, Now Assisted by Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/19l5o #school #e ... | Aug 26 08:38 | |
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| schestowitz | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fasterforward/2010/08/google_adds_google_voice_to_gm.html | Aug 26 08:39 |
| schestowitz | If Google is about to control even VoIP, that can be destructive to diversity | Aug 26 08:39 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Bill Gates’ Plan to Control US Education Proceeds as Planned, Now Assisted by Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/19l5o #school #education #lobbying | Aug 26 08:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Digg In the Future http://bit.ly/9NBdIB | Aug 26 08:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Trying out the #Chakra Project http://ur1.ca/19l7e they did such a great job with the design #linux #gnu | Aug 26 08:40 | |
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| schestowitz | [08:13] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @r2d221 “I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu)” —Linus Torvalds, 1991 !q | Aug 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz | see how Linus calls gnu "professional" and Linux a "hobby"; the journos try to call GNU a "hobby" now, and say Linux is king | Aug 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz | [07:58] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [harishpillay/@harishpillay] Why do companies say "patented technology" when describing some proprietary products in their brochures? Patented does mean good! #fb | Aug 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz | c | Aug 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Aug 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz | They think "patented technology" has a connotation with innovation | Aug 26 08:42 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Allison Randal appointed Technical Architect of #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/19ld6 good appointment | Aug 26 08:59 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "We do not want Deltacloud to be under the control of any one vendor, including Red Hat" - says Red Hat! http://is.gd/eErJK #FTW | Aug 26 09:00 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[tracyrreed] I scored 37149420 (903 kills, $41140 spent) on Loops in #canvastd http://10k.aneventapart.com/Uploads/155/ | Aug 26 09:07 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[anivar] JTD's Slides on No UID campaign meeting "India’s UID Project: Biometrics Vulnerabilities & Exploits" http://slidesha.re/chXNBi #uid | Aug 26 09:10 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Congressional committee to vote on US withdrawl from Pakistan following leak http://bit.ly/bmlPYk | Aug 26 09:13 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] If A Book Editor Drastically Changes A Book, Would Publishing The Originals Be Fair Use? http://dlvr.it/4GtDz | Aug 26 09:18 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/47121154#notice-47493772 "Seems like they are trying out the "Apple way" of user interfaces :)" | Aug 26 09:19 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] #Google did NOT argue against software patents in #Bilski, may have to learn the Ellison way http://bit.ly/bwfSGw #patent #java | Aug 26 09:19 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "We’ve already lost a number of companies to Europe and Asia over our software patent system" - http://is.gd/eEtk0 #swpat #USA #fail | Aug 26 09:19 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/47453484 "Freedom never ends, in fact I heard that the !fsf guys were working on freeing freedom now." | Aug 26 09:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] why does Google's talk/video plugin for chrome not have a RPM version? #rpm | Aug 26 09:28 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/47454819 "If extend !fsf style freedom into social / political thinking you get something like Libertarian socialism http://bit.ly/b8xYY" | Aug 26 09:28 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Julian Assange Gets The Bog Standard Smear Technique | Craig Murray http://bit.ly/cWgC2E | Aug 26 09:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer "We’ve already lost a number of companies to Europe and Asia over our software patent system" - http://is.gd/eEtk0 #swpat ... | Aug 26 09:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks Stockholm press conference (video 1/5) http://bit.ly/bfJx1r | Aug 26 09:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks Stockholm press conference (video 2/5) http://bit.ly/alGsSS | Aug 26 09:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks Stockholm press conference "different duties to different publics" (video 3/5) http://bit.ly/bxIETM | Aug 26 09:40 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer "We do not want Deltacloud to be under the control of any one vendor, including Red Hat" - says Red Hat! http://is.gd/eEr ... | Aug 26 09:41 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer "We’ve already lost a number of companies to Europe and Asia over our software patent system" - http://is.gd/eEtk0 #swpat | Aug 26 09:41 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Aug 26 09:44 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks Stockholm press conference "the hope is.." (video 4/5) http://bit.ly/ajN6sd | Aug 26 09:45 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks Julian Assange Gets The Bog Standard Smear Technique http://bit.ly/cWgC2E >some crooks tried "child molester" on me | Aug 26 09:45 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks Stockholm press conference "Sy Hersh couldn't get the story out.." (video 5/5) http://bit.ly/czEtoP | Aug 26 09:47 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] http://ur1.ca/19lqe "High government salaries means soaring pension costs that taxpayers cannot afford." | Aug 26 09:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] #firefox panorama is great! | Aug 26 10:03 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Facebook Says It Owns "Book" http://bit.ly/b3wL1I | Aug 26 10:04 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Pentagon’s New Global Military Partner: Sweden http://bit.ly/dxMWD4 | Aug 26 10:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] Open-Source 2D, 3D For ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series GPUs: Phoronix: "AMD continues to abide by their commitment to pr... http://bit.ly/ahUwKI | Aug 26 10:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @PNL_Ro: RT @CugetLiber: Tinerii liberali au dat startul campaniei „2012 pentru 2012” http://bit.ly/cC0FmK | Aug 26 10:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: [Lxer] Mobile 3D planned for MeeGo Linux - Unix/Linux Forum http://bit.ly/cjfOi9 | Aug 26 10:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks Stockholm press conference (video 1/5) http://bit.ly/bfJx1r | Aug 26 10:58 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Dell Answers Critics Demanding Streak's Source Code http://ur1.ca/19o5r #android #linux #dell #gpl #compliance #fsf | Aug 26 11:11 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Those at the top seem to always have a well honed sens of entitlement http://bbc.in/d3FIgW | Aug 26 11:15 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] I not the concern is about the IPSA keeping records of convos and using them to embarass MPs, 'if you have done nothing wrong'? | Aug 26 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mapopa: “Run #Android Live On Your Desktop”: http://www.ivankristianto.com/os/android/run-android-live-on-your-desktop/1352/ | Aug 26 11:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Goana după Ovi http://www.goanaovi.ro/ !nokia !romania | Aug 26 11:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @samuelig: Thinking about going to FOSDEM 2011: http://www.fosdem.org !Fedora | Aug 26 11:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @jwildeboer "We’ve already lost a number of companies to Europe and Asia over our software patent system" - http://is.gd/eEtk0 #swpat | Aug 26 11:38 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Has the apps goldrushmoved from apple to android? Given how apple shaft their customers and devs, I'd say yes http://bbc.in/bX7qAk | Aug 26 11:40 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "Products and services other than Internet Broadcast AVC Video continue to be royalty-bearing." http://is.gd/eEEO4 #h264 #freemium | Aug 26 11:47 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Novell is Denouncing #OOXML -Like Bogus ‘Standards’ After Helping OOMXL http://ur1.ca/19pki #odf #hypocrisy | Aug 26 11:51 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 26/8/2010: #Debian Debates, #Rails 3.0 Release Candidate 2 http://ur1.ca/19phz #techrights #gnu #linux #roundup | Aug 26 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/8/2010: !Debian Debates, #Rails 3.0 Release Candidate 2 http://ur1.ca/19phz !techrights !gnu !linux #roundup | Aug 26 11:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @stuckbit @bkuhn I will grok it when I see 51% of Islam condemning the actions of Al-Qaeda instead of cheering it on. Naivete fails. | Aug 26 12:08 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Iranian Government Running A Warez Server? http://dlvr.it/4H9Zk | Aug 26 12:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Argh! Trouble w/ #waketime this morning & I know @fabsh is waiting on me for something. Gotta get into office & get moving here. |igh! | Aug 26 12:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Iranian Government Running A Warez Server? http://dlvr.it/4H9Zk /by @techdirt | Aug 26 12:18 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Outcry in Belgium Over WikiLeaks publications of Dutroux dossier http://bit.ly/9RBPI2 | Aug 26 12:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Novell is 'Rebranding' to Suggest Novell Keeps All the Power http://ur1.ca/19qp3 The Power of One Microsoft Way? #opensuse #suse | Aug 26 12:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Why did the Dutroux debate start, now, 16 months after publication? That is a good question. Any guesses? | Aug 26 12:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Eye on Security: Dangers of #Microsoft Windows, #Apple hypeTunes http://ur1.ca/19qzd Proprietary software and its harms – news headlines | Aug 26 12:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Oracle case against Google: Winners real open source databases like FirebirdSQL and PostgreSQL http://is.gd/eEIUJ | Aug 26 12:43 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] @schestowitz But remember, even MIcrosoft tries to distance themselves from OOXML these day. | Aug 26 12:45 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] “So now creating a patent monopoly [...] becomes a way to make the university richer than it already is.” http://ur1.ca/19rh2 #swpats | Aug 26 12:47 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @rcweir is does? How so? | Aug 26 12:53 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @rsandu Oracle case against Google: Winners real open source databases like FirebirdSQL and PostgreSQL http://is.gd/eEIUJ >seems true | Aug 26 12:54 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.oled-display.net/new-pictures-from-the-7-inch-samsung-galaxy-tabpad | Aug 26 12:56 |
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| schestowitz | If only it weren't Ballnux | Aug 26 12:56 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Google Testing Instant Search Feature http://bit.ly/alsEX4 | Aug 26 12:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What a mess at the entrance to the #yog closing ceremony. Ver inefficient crowd control. Fail! #fb | Aug 26 12:58 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Huawei to Launch Android 2.2 Smartphone at IFA http://ur1.ca/19rsf Huawei {hearts} #linux | Aug 26 12:59 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Droid 2 is not liberated http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764950 #linux #android #hack | Aug 26 13:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Finally all 5 of us are seated. Let the fun begin at the closing ceremony of the 1st youth olympic games #yog #fb | Aug 26 13:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @richslxh: [Iran Warez] Ftp server has been closed down http://is.gd/eELux | Aug 26 13:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @gouki !Wikileaks ABC Foreign Correspondent video report on Thailand: http://is.gd/exQBu | Aug 26 13:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] One reporter from Thailand who was accused of free speech had the amazing !EFF "Come Back with a Warrant" on her laptop. ur1.ca/19sjl !wl | Aug 26 13:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RPT @jackschofield: Philips Fluid: A Smartphone with a Flexible Display http://bit.ly/d2DYBN [Concept] | Aug 26 13:38 | |
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| Jookia | Hey.. | Aug 26 13:39 |
| schestowitz | What's up? | Aug 26 13:39 |
| Jookia | Me being annoyed at Microsoft. | Aug 26 13:40 |
| Jookia | Microsoft is hardly working, if at all on the Linux Hyper-V drivers, but still they use it to their credit at htttp://microsoft.com/opensource. | Aug 26 13:40 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, Greg complained | Aug 26 13:40 |
| schestowitz | I think they then pretended to touch it again, maybe let it rot again | Aug 26 13:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Some people seem worried that an O'Reilly type was made a leader in Canonical / #Ubuntu just now: http://ur1.ca/19sli | Aug 26 13:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @linuxtoday why post just a portion of all the items to Twitter and not all? | Aug 26 13:40 | |
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| Jookia | On their site, they don't even mention that they only did it to avoid legal action. | Aug 26 13:40 |
| schestowitz | They want Linux people like Red Hat dudes to waste their time on it, helping proprietary Hype-V [sic] | Aug 26 13:41 |
| Jookia | They only touch it when it's slated to be removed from the kernel. | Aug 26 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: true | Aug 26 13:41 |
| schestowitz | GPL violations | Aug 26 13:41 |
| schestowitz | I did like 3 posts about it | Aug 26 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Well, that's Microsoft. They lie, cheat, bribe... | Aug 26 13:41 |
| Jookia | That's another thing that worries me. You have time to find everything, write posts and put it all on a site that's updated like 10 times a day. | Aug 26 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, for now.. | Aug 26 13:42 |
| Jookia | For now? | Aug 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I sometimes take some days off | Aug 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | Like last week | Aug 26 13:42 |
| Jookia | I don't notice it because it makes no sense. | Aug 26 13:42 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: no we must tie you to the chair :-) | Aug 26 13:42 |
| Jookia | You've been accused of being a bot which makes no sense but at the same time makes more sense. O_O | Aug 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | No, I'm just fast at this stuff | Aug 26 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Did it since 5 years ago when I finished up my thesis | Aug 26 13:43 |
| schestowitz | I can scan many articles fast and use templates to reduce time spent on formatting | Aug 26 13:43 |
| Jookia | Ah. That could be where the bot part comes from. | Aug 26 13:44 |
| schestowitz | When people flasely accuse me of being 'a bot' I take it as a compliment | Aug 26 13:44 |
| Jookia | I have an iPod Nano (5th generation with camera) and use gtkPod to manage it, and ironically, it does much more than iTunes does. :P | Aug 26 13:45 |
| schestowitz | It means I work more effeciently than other people. It's like when people falsely accuse someone strong of taking steroids | Aug 26 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Like Miguel de Icaza did | Aug 26 13:45 |
| schestowitz | hypeTooons I've never used | Aug 26 13:46 |
| schestowitz | I saw people using it | Aug 26 13:46 |
| schestowitz | I used to use Amarok | Aug 26 13:46 |
| *MinceR uses Audacious | Aug 26 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | But it was usually in another desktop, taking CPU and RAM that wasn't put to good use | Aug 26 13:46 |
| Jookia | It came with my iPod but only runs on Mac and Windows. | Aug 26 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Now I use minirok, which is very minimalist and does global shortcuts, which is as close as I ever get to 'touching' the media player | Aug 26 13:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: doesn't nenolod maintain it? | Aug 26 13:47 |
| Jookia | My big hate against it is that iTunes doesn't allow me to import FLAC files to it. | Aug 26 13:47 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: he does | Aug 26 13:47 |
| Jookia | But gtkPod does. | Aug 26 13:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: so you can ask for features in this channel maybe | Aug 26 13:47 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 26 13:47 |
| MinceR | i think the answer would be "patches welcome" | Aug 26 13:48 |
| MinceR | anyway, i don't think i'm missing any features right now | Aug 26 13:48 |
| schestowitz | Apple skins | Aug 26 13:48 |
| schestowitz | To piece with your teeth :-) | Aug 26 13:48 |
| schestowitz | *pierce | Aug 26 13:48 |
| MinceR | i prefer native GUIs | Aug 26 13:48 |
| schestowitz | http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/08/24/acer-chrome-os-netbook-specs-revealed-via-bug-report-chrome-os-netbook-from-acer-will-feature-1-66ghz-atom-n455-cpu-1gb-ram-8gb-sandisk-pssd/ | Aug 26 13:49 |
| MinceR | though i haven't yet upgraded to the version that has is | Aug 26 13:49 |
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| MinceR | s/.$/t/ | Aug 26 13:49 |
| MinceR | i consider "skinned" GUIs pointless | Aug 26 13:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: gtk? | Aug 26 13:49 |
| schestowitz | xmms was gtk | Aug 26 13:49 |
| MinceR | yes | Aug 26 13:49 |
| MinceR | xmms was gtk1 | Aug 26 13:49 |
| schestowitz | I used Audacious for a while | Aug 26 13:49 |
| MinceR | then either bmp or audacious was ported to gtk2 | Aug 26 13:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's why xmms looked atrocious withot themes on | Aug 26 13:50 |
| schestowitz | Or if you opened dialogues | Aug 26 13:50 |
| MinceR | while the xmms team started xmms2, which i haven't seen yet | Aug 26 13:50 |
| MinceR | yes | Aug 26 13:50 |
| schestowitz | I developed with gtk 1.2 and 2.0 | Aug 26 13:50 |
| MinceR | gtk1 has no font antialiasing support | Aug 26 13:50 |
| schestowitz | That was way back though | Aug 26 13:50 |
| schestowitz | 2.0 was just 'phasing in' at the time | Aug 26 13:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: xmms2 seems like a bunch of cli tools | Aug 26 13:51 |
| Jookia | I can't wait until HAL is fully phased out. | Aug 26 13:51 |
| MinceR | hm, i think i have tried it actually | Aug 26 13:51 |
| schestowitz | Don't know what the story is or what it's svveedish chef is up to | Aug 26 13:51 |
| schestowitz | *its | Aug 26 13:51 |
| MinceR | just didn't like it much, because it's still incomplete | Aug 26 13:51 |
| MinceR | i faintly remember trying a few GUI frontends | Aug 26 13:51 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: Banshee phases it out | Aug 26 13:52 |
| MinceR | most of them missing most features | Aug 26 13:52 |
| schestowitz | But it's Mono | Aug 26 13:52 |
| Jookia | I'm really unhappy about Microsoft. | Aug 26 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Development of music player is becoming like creation of music | Aug 26 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Both are increasingly given away for free | Aug 26 13:52 |
| MinceR | that leaves plenty of differences :> | Aug 26 13:53 |
| schestowitz | to make money people can integrate with some Fog Computing to sell conevenient access to tunes | Aug 26 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: any news about it though. Did you use their driver? | Aug 26 13:53 |
| schestowitz | They lied about its size | Aug 26 13:53 |
| Jookia | No, I don't. | Aug 26 13:53 |
| schestowitz | They said 20k LOCs | Aug 26 13:53 |
| schestowitz | If you move away cruft it's just 14k | Aug 26 13:54 |
| Jookia | I looked through the kernel changelogs. | Aug 26 13:54 |
| Jookia | No mention of Hyper-V | Aug 26 13:54 |
| Jookia | And my current distro has the modules. | Aug 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | It's that Danish guy with his name on it | Aug 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Jensen of Henrik or something | Aug 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | He's a real shark | Aug 26 13:54 |
| Jookia | There's NOTHING to do with Hyper-V | Aug 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Windows zealot, also in the PHP and Novell area | Aug 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Zend I mean | Aug 26 13:55 |
| Jookia | But apparently it was slated for removal. | Aug 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Cause it doesn't keep up | Aug 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Worse than Android | Aug 26 13:55 |
| Jookia | I'm not a kernel dev or kernelly person so I'm not sure if it was discussed in mailing lists. | Aug 26 13:55 |
| Jookia | But it seems fishy. | Aug 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Greh K-H wrote about it | Aug 26 13:55 |
| Jookia | Oh? | Aug 26 13:55 |
| Jookia | Where abouts? | Aug 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | It even made /. FP IIRC | Aug 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Hold on... | Aug 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz | I did some posts about it last year... | Aug 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Now this one... http://techrights.org/2009/07/23/patent-injection-not-code-donation/ | Aug 26 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Linux Did Not Need Microsofts Code Injection | Techrights .::. Size~: 151.68 KB | Aug 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Going backwards... | Aug 26 13:56 |
| Jookia | Yeah, that's it, but the thing is, it was slated for removal, but there's no mention at all. | Aug 26 13:56 |
| Jookia | Of it staying in or going out. | Aug 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz | This is about the GPL violation... | Aug 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/07/24/microsoft-gpl-violation/ | Aug 26 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsofts Goodwill is to Obey the Law | Techrights .::. Size~: 123.79 KB | Aug 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/07/24/microsoft-gpl-compliance/ | Aug 26 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Claims GPL Compliance Came Before Any Violation Claims | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.04 KB | Aug 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/07/26/upper-hand-of-the-gpl/ | Aug 26 13:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Demonstrates the Upper Hand of the GPL and Microsofts Inability to Defeat It | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.28 KB | Aug 26 13:57 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Fun To Be Had With a 10 Foot Satellite Dish? http://bit.ly/ahj4uc | Aug 26 13:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Hardware Story | Fun To Be Had With a 10 Foot Satellite Dish? .::. Size~: 45.63 KB | Aug 26 13:57 |
| Jookia | I dunno man, it's just odd how there's no mention of any development, yet it wasn't removed. | Aug 26 13:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The new Digg is OK. The old Digg was OK too. Nothing special in the change for me. | Aug 26 13:58 | |
| schestowitz | Here is Greg thretaening to toss the POS: http://techrights.org/2009/09/11/novell-microsoft-paradise-tiff/ | Aug 26 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Trouble in Novell/Microsoft Paradise | Techrights .::. Size~: 99.52 KB | Aug 26 13:58 |
| schestowitz | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/09/10/2159246/Greg-Kroah-Hartman-Gripes-About-Microsofts-Linux-Contribution-MS-Renews-Effort?art_pos=2 | Aug 26 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Linux Story | Greg Kroah-Hartman Gripes About Microsoft's Linux Contribution; MS Renews Effort .::. Size~: 149.32 KB | Aug 26 13:58 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3893 | Aug 26 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Microsoft stalling on its GPL Linux drivers? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 144.34 KB | Aug 26 13:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sdtimes.com/link/33750 | Aug 26 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Greg Kroah-Hartman decries lapsed Microsoft contributions to Linux - SD Times: Software Development News .::. Size~: 123.62 KB | Aug 26 13:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworlduk.com/toolbox/open-source/kernel-systems/news/index.cfm?RSS&newsid=16532 | Aug 26 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved permanently .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 13:59 |
| Jookia | I'm not talking about back in '09, though.. | Aug 26 13:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/open-source/16532/linux-developer-tells-microsoft-to-get-back-to-work/ | Aug 26 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux developer tells Microsoft to get back to work - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 65.09 KB | Aug 26 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: it happened again IIRC | Aug 26 14:00 |
| Jookia | Yeah, but I'm specifically looking for any mention of it to do with its slated removal of kernel 2.6.34 | Aug 26 14:00 |
| Jookia | It can't just of been slated for removal and then just kept in without mention, can it? | Aug 26 14:00 |
| *Jookia has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Aug 26 14:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is anyone else able to get Ping working in !gwibber daily? | Aug 26 14:03 | |
| *Jookia (~jookia@ppp59-167-167-240.static.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Aug 26 14:03 | |
| Jookia | Yay for crashing IRC | Aug 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | I've just asked | Aug 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | In Identica | Aug 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Maybe someone will know. | Aug 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | I can recall something | Aug 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | As you say, threats or removing it at end of 2009 or 2010's start | Aug 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | But it didn't make many headlines, maybe just a mailing list concern | Aug 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | http://erictric.com/2010/08/24/firefox-4-beta-4-delayed/ | Aug 26 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox 4 Beta 4 Delayed [Updated] .::. Size~: 22.61 KB | Aug 26 14:04 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Does anybody know if it's true that Microsoft's self-serving hype-V [sic] drivers for #linux are being removed for negligence? | Aug 26 14:04 | |
| Jookia | "Update: Surprisingly, Firefox 4 Beta 4 was actually released after all. More information here." | Aug 26 14:05 |
| Jookia | Microsoft's interoperability is a little.. One-sided, isn't it? | Aug 26 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/08/24/acer.chrome.os.netbooks.surface.in.logs/ | Aug 26 14:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Acer supplying advance Chrome OS netbooks to Google? | Electronista .::. Size~: 73.45 KB | Aug 26 14:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If we're acquainted say where we met when you submit your friend request. Being FB friends with 25 people I know isn't enough /by @webpath | Aug 26 14:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] When I use Twitter lists in !gwibber, it uses up my APIs pretty quickly. This may be common to all Desktop clients though. | Aug 26 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | Jookia: Microsoft wants to be interoperable to Microsoft | Aug 26 14:08 |
| Jookia | Yeah | Aug 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Makes migration easier | Aug 26 14:08 |
| Jookia | But they aren't really being interoperable with GNU/Linux. | Aug 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Mono=move to .NET more swiftly | Aug 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Hype-V=run Windows | Aug 26 14:09 |
| Jookia | I've seen some proposals on ZDNet on how to prove that Microsoft wants to help open source. | Aug 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Silver Lie=why don't you just ignore HTML5? | Aug 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: Adrian? | Aug 26 14:09 |
| Jookia | It's a bit extreme though, wanting Microsoft to open source their old OSes, GPL things, etc | Aug 26 14:09 |
| Jookia | Not sure. | Aug 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | I was shocked, uncomfortable even. Cause I agreed with him. | Aug 26 14:10 |
| Jookia | I think the best way for Microsoft to prove they want to help is for them to contribute to WINE. | Aug 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | /hardware/ blog | Aug 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: and to stop the patent assault | Aug 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | We're talking about the same post from 1-2 days ago | Aug 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it last night | Aug 26 14:10 |
| Jookia | Ah, that one. | Aug 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/08/25/fauxpen-source-microsoft-idg/ | Aug 26 14:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Tactic: We Love Open Source, But Those Zealots Dont Love Us Back | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.89 KB | Aug 26 14:11 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Nollywood protection RT @ipwatch Rights Holders Launch Initiative To Protect Content In Africa: http://bit.ly/adD3FY | Aug 26 14:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Intellectual Property Watch » Blog Archive » Rights Holders Launch Initiative To Protect Content In Africa .::. Size~: 46.48 KB | Aug 26 14:11 |
| Jookia | Why would we love them back? :P | Aug 26 14:12 |
| Jookia | They've done nothing to help. | Aug 26 14:12 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] ♺ @SachaLabourey: CloudBees is now live! http://bit.ly/9WsapU | Aug 26 14:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CloudBees' Blog: Welcome to CloudBees .::. Size~: 39.32 KB | Aug 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20014561-1.html | Aug 26 14:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Transcend SSDs get radical speed and capacity boosts | Crave - CNET .::. Size~: 62.41 KB | Aug 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: that's the point | Aug 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | It's a debating tactic | Aug 26 14:13 |
| Jookia | Yeah, they're a lovely company. | Aug 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Calls charm offensive | Aug 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/89950.html] | Aug 26 14:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Charm offensive .::. Size~: 6.59 KB | Aug 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | "A publicity campaign, usually by politicians, that attempts to attract supporters by emphasizing their charisma or trustworthiness." | Aug 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | /calls/called/ | Aug 26 14:14 |
| schestowitz | "Killing with kindness" | Aug 26 14:14 |
| Jookia | Microsoft doesn't really interoperate with trust. | Aug 26 14:14 |
| schestowitz | "War is no longer just around the corner. [General Alfred M.] Gruenther warned, though, that after the "launching of the Russian charm offensive, there is a danger of the democracies relaxing their vigilance."" | Aug 26 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is our friend now :-) | Aug 26 14:15 |
| schestowitz | If you don't accept them, you are a poisonous character that needs to be ejected | Aug 26 14:15 |
| schestowitz | That's how it works basically | Aug 26 14:15 |
| Jookia | Microsoft is lovely. | Aug 26 14:16 |
| Jookia | I love their excuse. | Aug 26 14:16 |
| Jookia | "We only get bugs and patches and security holes because we're high market." | Aug 26 14:16 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Rather Than A Record Label, How About A Musical Affinity Group? http://dlvr.it/4HP9k | Aug 26 14:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rather Than A Record Label, How About A Musical Affinity Group? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 22.13 KB | Aug 26 14:16 |
| Jookia | I dunno, I feel bad for Microsoft. | Aug 26 14:18 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @ffii @ipwatch Rights Holders Launch Initiative To Protect Content In Africa http://bit.ly/adD3FY used to colonise with army, now lawyers | Aug 26 14:18 | |
| schestowitz | Aww... | Aug 26 14:18 |
| Jookia | They're losing so badly that they're now at patent trolling level. | Aug 26 14:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Intellectual Property Watch » Blog Archive » Rights Holders Launch Initiative To Protect Content In Africa .::. Size~: 46.46 KB | Aug 26 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Don't feel bad, have a hanky | Aug 26 14:18 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, hank is the name of the guy who added hype-V to Linux | Aug 26 14:19 |
| Jookia | Did you see that Microsoft open source Silverlight comic? | Aug 26 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Hank Janssen, yeah... | Aug 26 14:19 |
| schestowitz | What a snake | Aug 26 14:19 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] http://is.gd/eER0R "not a bug, change yr entire codebase" "i switched to jetty" "we have looked again and decided this bug is valid" | Aug 26 14:19 | |
| schestowitz | Jookia: I haven't | Aug 26 14:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug 42409 – Extra response headers not sent when using custom error page .::. Size~: 51.53 KB | Aug 26 14:19 |
| Jookia | You haven't? | Aug 26 14:19 |
| schestowitz | They shoot themselves in the foot | Aug 26 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Comics, Heroes.... etc. | Aug 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz | They also had some LEGO-like campaign with "Open Source Heroes" | Aug 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz | from Microsoft :-) | Aug 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz | They are failing though | Aug 26 14:20 |
| Jookia | It wasn't an official Microsoft comic, it was that one poking fun at the open source portion of their site. | Aug 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&q=ironruby&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn | Aug 26 14:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ironruby - Google Search .::. Size~: 47.31 KB | Aug 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz | http://news.google.com/news/more?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&q=ironruby&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dXV9hk6c5QNPbJME9GE2C9oa9rTuM&ei=_Gl2TObmA8OUswbzpYGKBg&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&cd=1&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQqgIoADAA | Aug 26 14:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft's dynamic languages on forc... - Google News .::. Size~: 54.44 KB | Aug 26 14:20 |
| Jookia | http://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000307.jpg | Aug 26 14:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Doomed to Obscurity .::. Size~: 72.77 KB | Aug 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz | I posted a link to it last nightg | Aug 26 14:21 |
| schestowitz | *night | Aug 26 14:21 |
| Jookia | It made me have that warm feeling inside. | Aug 26 14:21 |
| Jookia | Of when you know something is ironic, but the author doesn't. | Aug 26 14:21 |
| schestowitz | But I think it's true (that they put Silver Lie in the "opensource" pages) | Aug 26 14:21 |
| Jookia | It is, I tried to go to it and failed. | Aug 26 14:21 |
| schestowitz | They sure brag about Moon Lie in there | Aug 26 14:21 |
| Jookia | Silverlight is pretty much useful for one or two sites. | Aug 26 14:22 |
| Jookia | Like Veoh's Web Player | Aug 26 14:22 |
| Jookia | A video website I needed to visit the other day used Silverlight. | Aug 26 14:22 |
| schestowitz | http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/site/Home | Aug 26 14:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Home - Adobe Open Source - Adobe Open Source .::. Size~: 22.38 KB | Aug 26 14:23 |
| schestowitz | /opensource | Aug 26 14:23 |
| schestowitz | I scanned the page for .swf | Aug 26 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Nothing found | Aug 26 14:23 |
| schestowitz | At least they are not as stupid as Microsoft | Aug 26 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: more and more sites dump Silver Lie | Aug 26 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Some that used to use it briefly | Aug 26 14:24 |
| Jookia | Have you seen MS-PL? | Aug 26 14:24 |
| Jookia | I've heard it's compatible with the GPL. | Aug 26 14:24 |
| schestowitz | ITV, National Baseball, NYT... | Aug 26 14:24 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] Saint Paul's Letters to the Electorates, Chapters 1-8. http://bit.ly/9WOIsf | Aug 26 14:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ABC The Drum Unleashed - Saint Paul's Letter to the Electorates: Chapter 1 .::. Size~: 87.25 KB | Aug 26 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Have you seen germs? | Aug 26 14:25 |
| schestowitz | I've heard they're compatible with blood | Aug 26 14:25 |
| Jookia | Hahaha. | Aug 26 14:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 26 14:26 |
| MinceR | or vampires | Aug 26 14:27 |
| MinceR | or mosquitoes | Aug 26 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Or leeches | Aug 26 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Truth is sunrise to the Microsoft vampire | Aug 26 14:27 |
| MinceR | or ticks | Aug 26 14:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS381172264020100825 | Aug 26 14:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Embarcadero unveils big plans for Delphi| Reuters .::. Size~: 45.98 KB | Aug 26 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Delphi comes to NUX | Aug 26 14:28 |
| schestowitz | But. Do we need it? :-) | Aug 26 14:28 |
| MinceR | again? | Aug 26 14:28 |
| MinceR | we had kylix, it flopped | Aug 26 14:29 |
| MinceR | and noboy cares about pascal anymore, do they? | Aug 26 14:29 |
| MinceR | s/boy/body/ | Aug 26 14:29 |
| Jookia | I feel uncomfortable here since I'm not a hardcore freedom person. I use Flash and stuff for visting websites (I don't develop in it), I use MP3 if I have to (I prefer FLAC) and I try and use WebM as much as I can.. Hang on, am I becoming one? Oh god. | Aug 26 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I don't think we have hardcore freedom persons here | Aug 26 14:34 |
| schestowitz | #gnu and #fsf have some | Aug 26 14:34 |
| schestowitz | Techrights promotes human decency, it likes some gpl values | Aug 26 14:34 |
| Jookia | Ah | Aug 26 14:35 |
| schestowitz | People assume we're some fsf faction for some reason. We're orthogonal. | Aug 26 14:35 |
| schestowitz | I would not want RMS to represent all my views. | Aug 26 14:35 |
| Jookia | I just don't like Microsoft destroying GNU/Linux. | Aug 26 14:35 |
| Jookia | I also like the links section. :3 | Aug 26 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is monopoly,artificial scarcity, sheer abuse, survellance, etc. | Aug 26 14:36 |
| schestowitz | I don't want that, I don't think anyone does | Aug 26 14:36 |
| Jookia | How is cloud computing done while respecting the GPL? | Aug 26 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Difference is, some people don't understand, some understand and do nothing about it, some understand and do something before it's too late | Aug 26 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Jobs is topping Microsoft with his Cult | Aug 26 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Google too is learning from Apple, gradually | Aug 26 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: AGPL | Aug 26 14:37 |
| Jookia | AGPL? | Aug 26 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 26 14:37 |
| Ziomatrix | Motorola goes on another legal spree against custom ROM devs for being about to update Droids to Android 2.2 before they do: http://tinyurl.com/237bdx2 | Aug 26 14:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 14:37 |
| schestowitz | GPL that keeps code free when you serve the person with it, assuming it gets modified | Aug 26 14:38 |
| schestowitz | That would force Google to give away load of code | Aug 26 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Which is why Google hates AGPL | Aug 26 14:38 |
| Jookia | Ah | Aug 26 14:38 |
| schestowitz | it even excludes it from Google C0de | Aug 26 14:38 |
| Jookia | Ooh, that's nasty | Aug 26 14:38 |
| Jookia | You sure they're not just ignorant of it? | Aug 26 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 26 14:38 |
| schestowitz | DiBona spoke about it | Aug 26 14:39 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2008/05/30/google-hypocrisy/ | Aug 26 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dear Google: Is AGPL Evil? | Techrights .::. Size~: 116.12 KB | Aug 26 14:39 |
| Jookia | I've been thinking of making an online game actually and since I'm a hippy and don't really like server monopolies | Aug 26 14:39 |
| Jookia | I was thinking of using the AGPL | Aug 26 14:39 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Has US caved on ACTA secondary liability? Drop anti-circ demands, rumours now say changes to ISP liability http://bit.ly/cE5q2n | Aug 26 14:40 | |
| Jookia | Have you seen that uhh | Aug 26 14:42 |
| Jookia | The game app | Aug 26 14:42 |
| Jookia | Where you stream games? | Aug 26 14:42 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Drunken Employee Shoots Server http://bit.ly/clraJd | Aug 26 14:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Idle Story | Drunken Employee Shoots Server .::. Size~: 35.97 KB | Aug 26 14:42 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] @schestowitz Thinking of the recent OData/OOXML article | Aug 26 14:44 | |
| Jookia | I sound like a fanboy, but I think Stallman is a genius and should get more credit after all, without him, we could have dark ages of computing. | Aug 26 14:44 |
| Ziomatrix | the g00g draws closer to predictive searching: http://tinyurl.com/24yk49u | Aug 26 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Technology Story | Google Testing Instant Search Feature .::. Size~: 113.35 KB | Aug 26 14:45 |
| Jookia | I can't think of any instances where I'd need an instant search feature. | Aug 26 14:45 |
| Jookia | Usually what I put in a search engine has a few definite results. | Aug 26 14:46 |
| MinceR | on the web, neither can i | Aug 26 14:46 |
| MinceR | at least it tells google how you type :> | Aug 26 14:46 |
| MinceR | delays, typos | Aug 26 14:46 |
| Jookia | "Dog houses in Australia" shouldn't need instant search, though. | Aug 26 14:46 |
| schestowitz | @claudiom | Aug 26 14:46 |
| schestowitz | didn't realise that you were on identica. Love the #LinuxBasement show.... | Aug 26 14:46 |
| Jookia | Unless for some reason it's a very active dog house. | Aug 26 14:46 |
| Jookia | I don't care if Google sees how I type. | Aug 26 14:47 |
| Jookia | I'll just turn Javascript off. | Aug 26 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:44] <Jookia> I sound like a fanboy, but I think Stallman is a genius and should get more credit after all, without him, we could have dark ages of computing. | Aug 26 14:47 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: or it can more easily notify Google of your search habbits ;-) | Aug 26 14:47 |
| schestowitz | I think someone else would have done it | Aug 26 14:47 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 26 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Or BSD would be widespread | Aug 26 14:47 |
| schestowitz | or /more/ widespread | Aug 26 14:47 |
| MinceR | i'm trying DuckDuckGo now, with Scroogle as the fallback :) | Aug 26 14:47 |
| Jookia | schestowitz: Yeah, but it's the same as Nikoli. | Aug 26 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Reciprocal licences exdist elsewhere | Aug 26 14:47 |
| schestowitz | e.g. Lessig with Creative Commons | Aug 26 14:48 |
| *gnufreex (~quassel@77-46-199-117.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #techrights | Aug 26 14:48 | |
| Jookia | Nikola Tesla I mean. | Aug 26 14:48 |
| schestowitz | It's formalising what scientists have done for a long time | Aug 26 14:48 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: lol it would be funny if someone searches a ton of porn using it and then the next person wants to look up a dog house or a home for the elderly | Aug 26 14:48 |
| cubevector | we did have a dark ages of computing | Aug 26 14:48 |
| *Ziomatrix shudders | Aug 26 14:48 | |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 26 14:48 |
| Jookia | Somebody would've done it sooner or later, as with the light. | Aug 26 14:48 |
| schestowitz | "I give you my datasets, you will give me your methods" | Aug 26 14:48 |
| cubevector | it's the semi-dark ages now | Aug 26 14:48 |
| MinceR | yes, and it's not guaranteed to end yet | Aug 26 14:48 |
| Jookia | Web 2.0 is around 5 years old, isn't it? | Aug 26 14:48 |
| cubevector | or to put it another way, we are just starting to come out of the dark ages | Aug 26 14:48 |
| schestowitz | RMS and Eben reversed copyright's teeth to make their stuff enforceable, despite the beards ;-) | Aug 26 14:48 |
| MinceR | web2.0 is just a pointless buzzword | Aug 26 14:49 |
| Jookia | I know it's a buzzword | Aug 26 14:49 |
| Jookia | But when I say Web 2.0, you know what I mean. | Aug 26 14:49 |
| Jookia | All that creepy flash videos, social stuff. | Aug 26 14:49 |
| Jookia | Videos of kittens doing things humans do | Aug 26 14:49 |
| schestowitz | [14:48] <Jookia> Web 2.0 is around 5 years old, isn't it? | Aug 26 14:49 |
| cubevector | meh :) | Aug 26 14:49 |
| schestowitz | What is Web 2.0? | Aug 26 14:49 |
| MinceR | i didn't know Trash was part of web2.0 | Aug 26 14:50 |
| schestowitz | ORLY marketing junk? | Aug 26 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Ajax? | Aug 26 14:50 |
| Jookia | Heheheh | Aug 26 14:50 |
| schestowitz | HTML4? | Aug 26 14:50 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: webapps with BETA in the name, websites with vowels missing from the end of the name | Aug 26 14:50 |
| MinceR | pastel colors | Aug 26 14:50 |
| schestowitz | It's like saying "clouds" | Aug 26 14:50 |
| MinceR | commenting on the site | Aug 26 14:50 |
| MinceR | social networking | Aug 26 14:50 |
| schestowitz | People had "clouds" 20 years ago, they just weren't called that | Aug 26 14:50 |
| gnufreex | I want to know what is Enterprise 2.0 | Aug 26 14:50 |
| Jookia | MinceR: Pretty much that. | Aug 26 14:50 |
| MinceR | AJAX bloat | Aug 26 14:50 |
| Jookia | Most the sites I use have Javascript off. | Aug 26 14:50 |
| MinceR | so do i | Aug 26 14:50 |
| cubevector | Xerox Star ftw :) | Aug 26 14:50 |
| schestowitz | [14:50] <MinceR> pastel colors | Aug 26 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Aug 26 14:51 | |
| cubevector | like they were 15 years before everybody | Aug 26 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Run by kids, it's all fun and games | Aug 26 14:51 |
| Jookia | MinceR, that was the most epic thing in the world. | Aug 26 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Or so they'd have you believe | Aug 26 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Until the CIA submits requests to thejm | Aug 26 14:51 |
| MinceR | Jookia: which one? | Aug 26 14:51 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: or the government of the PRC | Aug 26 14:51 |
| Jookia | The whole description of Web 2.0 | Aug 26 14:51 |
| MinceR | oh, i see | Aug 26 14:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 26 14:51 |
| schestowitz | PRC? in Palm OS? | Aug 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | nope | Aug 26 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Palm App Sotre | Aug 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | and not Prestige Classes either | Aug 26 14:52 |
| schestowitz | The "Government | Aug 26 14:52 |
| Jookia | Web 2.0 can be described by comparing MySpace to Facebook. | Aug 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | but the idol of the australian government | Aug 26 14:52 |
| cubevector | ok, you are making web 1.0 sound better than web 2.0 :) | Aug 26 14:52 |
| gnufreex | Look at those shameless plugs and SFLC smears, by no else buy Floyd: | Aug 26 14:52 |
| gnufreex | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/of-course-microsoft-loves-open-source/7223?tag=mantle_skin;content | Aug 26 14:52 |
| gnufreex | I responded him in one comment. Little help would be welcome. | Aug 26 14:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Of course Microsoft loves open source | ZDNet .::. Size~: 123.11 KB | Aug 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | i think the method of doing the web the Right Way has no buzzword | Aug 26 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: why would I ever want to compare faeces and urine? | Aug 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | not web 1.0, not web 2.0 | Aug 26 14:53 |
| schestowitz | It's illusion of comparison | Aug 26 14:53 |
| Jookia | Heh. | Aug 26 14:53 |
| schestowitz | You could compare Reddit and 4chan | Aug 26 14:53 |
| Jookia | How far do patents go? | Aug 26 14:54 |
| Jookia | Like, can you patent hairstyles? | Aug 26 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Not yet | Aug 26 14:54 |
| Jookia | I'm sure somebody could. | Aug 26 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Lawyer must be working on it | Aug 26 14:54 |
| MinceR | what's wrong with reddit and 4chan? | Aug 26 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Tehre's copyright/patent for clothes pending | Aug 26 14:54 |
| schestowitz | They're not sure what | Aug 26 14:54 |
| schestowitz | I mean, like... think what making clothes is | Aug 26 14:54 |
| Jookia | I wonder if somebody can find the patent for my brand of speakers from the year 2001 or something. | Aug 26 14:54 |
| schestowitz | They should just call it "monopoly law" | Aug 26 14:55 |
| Jookia | These speakers are loud at the 5th level. | Aug 26 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Details not important, exact copy, "looks like", "behaves like", "smells like"... | Aug 26 14:55 |
| Jookia | They go up to 11 levels, I kid you not. | Aug 26 14:55 |
| schestowitz | THose laws are design to boost people's ego/greed | Aug 26 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Forgetting that all their ideas are originally inspired by something undebted in the first place | Aug 26 14:56 |
| Jookia | I want OpenID to be popular. | Aug 26 14:56 |
| MinceR | Jookia: perhaps Spinal Tap holds the patent on it then :> | Aug 26 14:56 |
| Jookia | That's my ideal web. | Aug 26 14:56 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if OpenID is compatible with privacy | Aug 26 14:56 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] CIA warns of violent American Jews | JPost http://bit.ly/95i9Lm | Aug 26 14:56 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: it's not | Aug 26 14:56 |
| MinceR | it's convenient but at the same time your identities on various sites are connected. | Aug 26 14:56 |
| schestowitz | I was just gonna say that | Aug 26 14:56 |
| Jookia | You could always encrypt it based on the password. | Aug 26 14:57 |
| Jookia | Like Firefox Sync | Aug 26 14:57 |
| MinceR | i liked it a lot when i first read about it | Aug 26 14:57 |
| MinceR | then i got a lot more privacy-conscious. | Aug 26 14:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Great time at the #yog closing inspite of the screwups at the entrance. Well done Singapore. Thank you atheletes! #fb | Aug 26 14:58 | |
| MinceR | perhaps if the "username" on a given site could be a hash of the OpenID, a site-dependent string (canonical domain or such stuff) and a user-specified salt... but that would make sockpuppets easy to make | Aug 26 14:58 |
| MinceR | maybe the same without the salt | Aug 26 14:59 |
| Jookia | It's an open thing, I'm sure they'll make it more private. | Aug 26 14:59 |
| MinceR | or it could be on the OpenID account level, not on the site level | Aug 26 14:59 |
| Ziomatrix | lol how convenient so the CIA and Wikileaks unwillingly facilitate those that state that internal civil liberties can damage the US's image in foreign policy? | Aug 26 14:59 |
| MinceR | (it does need a secret salt, otherwise anyone can generate the hash for any site and compare to find out who it is) | Aug 26 14:59 |
| Ziomatrix | next there will be calls for libels laws in the US and perhaps a more apparent no fly and broadcast list | Aug 26 15:00 |
| Jookia | It could be on implemenation level. | Aug 26 15:00 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: he still uses Dana for his lobbying | Aug 26 15:00 |
| schestowitz | He has been trying maybe a hundred journos | Aug 26 15:00 |
| schestowitz | Only a few stayed with him | Aug 26 15:00 |
| MinceR | right, the OpenID server itself could own it | Aug 26 15:00 |
| schestowitz | Maybe 2 | Aug 26 15:00 |
| schestowitz | I abandoned him after he mass-mailed me to inject his POV | Aug 26 15:01 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Yeah, he even teaches Dana his own definition of FOSS and Free software and open source. Dana don't know the difference, he thinks FOSS is Free Sofware. He have all mixed up. | Aug 26 15:02 |
| Jookia | What is FOSS anyway? | Aug 26 15:02 |
| MinceR | Free/Open Source Software | Aug 26 15:02 |
| Jookia | Being the ignorant fool I am, I thought FOSS was also Free Software since Free Software requires open source. | Aug 26 15:02 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Landslide openness strategy shift at Oracle. Does it matter? http://blogs.adobe.com/open/2010/08/oracle-closed-minds-and-open-source.html | Aug 26 15:02 | |
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| gnufreex | Jookia: In practical sense, it is | Aug 26 15:03 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: yeah | Aug 26 15:03 |
| schestowitz | He talks to Dana about me too (he told me) | Aug 26 15:03 |
| MinceR | afaiu, free software and open source are the same thing in spirit | Aug 26 15:03 |
| MinceR | but their definitions result in subtle differences | Aug 26 15:03 |
| gnufreex | Jookia: But ideology beteen Free Software and Open SOurce is diffrent, even thouh those are same things. So some call it FOSS if they don't want to get into ideology. | Aug 26 15:04 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @ffii he is being a hypocrite | Aug 26 15:04 | |
| cubevector | well this show be interesting | Aug 26 15:05 |
| cubevector | this should | Aug 26 15:05 |
| cubevector | converting pal dvd with dutch subtitles to ntsc | Aug 26 15:06 |
| Jookia | Ah | Aug 26 15:06 |
| Jookia | What's the difference between PAL and NTSC? | Aug 26 15:06 |
| cubevector | 720x480 NTSC DVD | Aug 26 15:06 |
| cubevector | 720x576 PAL DVD | Aug 26 15:07 |
| cubevector | fps is different too | Aug 26 15:07 |
| Jookia | Remind me why they can't just settle for 720x480@29.97 ? | Aug 26 15:07 |
| cubevector | the dvd is imported, so it's PAL | Aug 26 15:07 |
| cubevector | and they have a NTSC dvd player | Aug 26 15:07 |
| MinceR | also, PAL and NTSC encode the color differently | Aug 26 15:08 |
| Jookia | What's the deal with dvd regions? | Aug 26 15:08 |
| MinceR | but as far as DVD itself goes, that doesn't matter | Aug 26 15:08 |
| Jookia | Well, my argument against it is true for DRM. | Aug 26 15:08 |
| Jookia | Pirates don't get DRM, people like me who stupidly buy things get it. | Aug 26 15:08 |
| cubevector | I don't find DRM to be a big problem | Aug 26 15:09 |
| gnufreex | That is why I don't buy anything legit. | Aug 26 15:09 |
| cubevector | so far, anyway | Aug 26 15:09 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] .@OpenForumEurope I just emailed you four questions and copied @ffii and @kgerloff - going to tweet short versions now. Thx in advance. | Aug 26 15:09 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Attn: My UK music-loving friends. Richard Shindell http://is.gd/eEVkt is playing Shrewsbury & several other spots. If you get a chance, go. | Aug 26 15:09 | |
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| MinceR | i do find DRM to be a big problem | Aug 26 15:09 |
| Jookia | DRM comes in all shapes and sizes. | Aug 26 15:10 |
| Jookia | Such as my brother buying a PS1 game on eBay and not being able to play it on his PS1 in AU | Aug 26 15:10 |
| cubevector | some people like defeating the DRM, it's a puzzle | Aug 26 15:10 |
| Jookia | And DVD regions | Aug 26 15:10 |
| cubevector | they like solving puzzles | Aug 26 15:10 |
| MinceR | other people get screwed by DRM | Aug 26 15:10 |
| Jookia | My brother bought a game and couldn't use it. | Aug 26 15:10 |
| MinceR | most do | Aug 26 15:11 |
| cubevector | yeah, for games it's a pain no question | Aug 26 15:11 |
| Jookia | What about DVD regions? | Aug 26 15:11 |
| MinceR | they're a DRM feature | Aug 26 15:11 |
| cubevector | fortunately all my stuff is Loki or LGP before the DRM was added | Aug 26 15:11 |
| Jookia | Well the thing is | Aug 26 15:12 |
| cubevector | I really don't like the closed box Dvd players | Aug 26 15:12 |
| cubevector | nothing can do mkv | Aug 26 15:12 |
| Jookia | I worry for others who have to be hurt by DRM | Aug 26 15:12 |
| gnufreex | Adobe Dave McAlister says in in defense of Adobe: We were part of the effort to more Iaccessible2 to the BSD license | Aug 26 15:14 |
| gnufreex | And he call that open source contirbutuin? That was LGPL before that, so moving to BSD only contributed to Adobe bottom line because they took it. | Aug 26 15:14 |
| gnufreex | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-linux-foundation-delivers-new-licensing-terms-testing-tools-for-accessibility-interfaces-2010-07-06 | Aug 26 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Linux Foundation Delivers New Licensing Terms, Testing Tools forAccessibility Interfaces - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 68.5 KB | Aug 26 15:14 |
| *MinceR read that as "Inaccessible2" | Aug 26 15:15 | |
| cubevector | even more inaccessible? :) | Aug 26 15:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 26 15:15 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: adobe is fauxpen | Aug 26 15:18 |
| schestowitz | They do PR though, like Microsoft | Aug 26 15:18 |
| schestowitz | The H aired one PR for them | Aug 26 15:18 |
| Jookia | How does the LGPL, as a business, work? | Aug 26 15:19 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I was suprised that they released BlazeDS under LGPLv3 | Aug 26 15:19 |
| gnufreex | But other than that, they are fauxpen | Aug 26 15:19 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/10/26/adobe-addicts-and-viral-fud/ | Aug 26 15:19 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Linux on the Cloud: The Ubuntu Way by @sjvn http://is.gd/eEW9m #Linux #Cloud #Ubuntu | Aug 26 15:19 | |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/04/23/adobe-offers-proprietary-drugs/ | Aug 26 15:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/04/30/adobe-trash-player-and-dot-net/ | Aug 26 15:19 |
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| schestowitz | I responded to the Dave McAlister spin in http://techrights.org/2010/08/25/hypocritical-adobe-boss-vs-oracle/ | Aug 26 15:20 |
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| schestowitz | Hi bobby_ | Aug 26 15:20 |
| gnufreex | Jookia: LGPL programs can be incoroprated in porpiratary packages if they link it dynamicaly, and if they opensurce everything that is staticaly linked. | Aug 26 15:20 |
| Jookia | Ah | Aug 26 15:21 |
| MinceR | or if they provide objects (.o files) for the nonfree code | Aug 26 15:21 |
| Jookia | I didn't think of that | Aug 26 15:21 |
| MinceR | so you can relink statically with a modified version of the library | Aug 26 15:21 |
| gnufreex | Jookia: Adobe obviously didn't want to share anything, and didn't wanted even to admit they are using open source code, so they wanted the thing to be no-strings-atached. A free lunch. | Aug 26 15:21 |
| bobby_ | Not sure if you went to Gizmodo yet. On top of the page they have a link to a Intelletcutaul Ventures article. | Aug 26 15:22 |
| gnufreex | And now they spin that as contribution | Aug 26 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Thank you, Adobe, for eating our lunch | Aug 26 15:22 |
| bobby_ | One LONG fluff piece about how they are good for technology, I almost lost my lunch but then again, its a toy-gadget site, not tech news. IF you want to see fluff piece about Myrvolhd, thats the place to go. | Aug 26 15:22 |
| Jookia | I like how anything open source can be made as a contribution. | Aug 26 15:22 |
| Jookia | Microsoft contributed Hyper-V drivers. | Aug 26 15:22 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to guess this one. Apple's Sept 1st Event No Mystery by @ron_miller. http://bit.ly/cGDROu | Aug 26 15:23 | |
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| gnufreex | Jookia: Taking is not a contributio, giving it. HyperV drivers can be more easily painted as contribution than Adobe convincig to switch Acessability tools to BSD. | Aug 26 15:24 |
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| Jookia | I know, that's my point. | Aug 26 15:24 |
| schestowitz | bobby_: the least one can do it shame them for it | Aug 26 15:24 |
| Jookia | Anything can be spun to be contributed. | Aug 26 15:24 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] http://gizmodo.com/ is selling out, advertising Intellectual Vultures in all page. Shame on Gizmodo. -1 | Aug 26 15:24 | |
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| gnufreex | Jookia: As for Hyper-V, Microsoft only opensourced it because they were in violation of GPL | Aug 26 15:24 |
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| Jookia | Exactly. | Aug 26 15:25 |
| Jookia | Yet http://microsoft.com/opensource fails to mention that. | Aug 26 15:25 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: it was Novell-only | Aug 26 15:25 |
| Nostradumbass | schestowitz: what shame in a Murdoch subsidiary? | Aug 26 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Till hank messed something up | Aug 26 15:25 |
| Jookia | What about the Hyper-V drivers for Windows? Don't we get the source to them? | Aug 26 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Then they pretended to jhave played nice | Aug 26 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Nostradumbass: does not parse. | Aug 26 15:25 |
| gnufreex | Jookia: Windows is not GPL | Aug 26 15:26 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Aug 26 15:26 |
| schestowitz | But it *is* cancer | Aug 26 15:26 |
| Jookia | Yes, but they had the violations of the code in Windows. | Aug 26 15:26 |
| *Nostradumbass is now known as Ziomatrix | Aug 26 15:26 | |
| Ziomatrix | sorry, thats my alt | Aug 26 15:26 |
| schestowitz | ah, OK | Aug 26 15:26 |
| Ziomatrix | it must have gone to it automatically due to nick collision | Aug 26 15:26 |
| schestowitz | What about Reportron? | Aug 26 15:27 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: nope doesn't ring a bell | Aug 26 15:27 |
| schestowitz | Rupert | Aug 26 15:27 |
| schestowitz | list of Rupert rags: http://techrights.org/2010/06/11/idc-idg-and-propaganda/ | Aug 26 15:28 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: oh, what I meant is that Gizmodo is now under Reportron's grasp, so they have to make some concessions if they want their funding for gadget candy | Aug 26 15:28 |
| Ziomatrix | also the legal protection from Apple's racketeering for their "lost" iPhone | Aug 26 15:28 |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: oh, wait... | Aug 26 15:29 |
| schestowitz | He owns them too? | Aug 26 15:29 |
| schestowitz | Through Gawker? | Aug 26 15:29 |
| schestowitz | I don't see Gawker Media in the list | Aug 26 15:30 |
| schestowitz | Also, WSJ's AllthingsD criticised the troll | Aug 26 15:30 |
| schestowitz | IV that is,not the Rupret troll (their boss) | Aug 26 15:30 |
| schestowitz | Rupert goes to private meetings in Redmond, I found out this year | Aug 26 15:31 |
| gnufreex | Jookia: HyperV needed to support Linunx or it would be stillborn. Nobody would use it. You can do that in two ways: Emulate some harware that Linux support and you get support for free. OR: Emulate some quirky harware that Linuxa doesn't support, and then ship dirvers for that. And when you don't need Linux anymore, just stop shipping drivers. Embrace Extend extinguish. Microosft of course did later, but they didn't count GPL. | Aug 26 15:31 |
| gnufreex | Linux drivers must be GPL if they run in kernel space. So Microsoft had to GPL drivers, and their plan failed. So they tried to spin. | Aug 26 15:31 |
| schestowitz | He also promotes hypePad in his rags cause it makes scarcity in access to information | Aug 26 15:31 |
| Jookia | Ah. | Aug 26 15:32 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: Ramji spinned | Aug 26 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Got caught | Aug 26 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Then quit | Aug 26 15:32 |
| schestowitz | *Span | Aug 26 15:32 |
| schestowitz | I guess even Ramji wasn't scummy enough to lie for a paycheck anymore | Aug 26 15:32 |
| Jookia | Don't you mean spun? | Aug 26 15:32 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: then I'm wrong, but I thought Rupert gave some kind of monetary support to Gawker | Aug 26 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Sam Ramji an opportunist... would have worked for the CIA death squads if it fit the bills... | Aug 26 15:33 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Microsoft still get creadited as "Linux contributor" by their astroturfers, and people pick that up as truth. | Aug 26 15:33 |
| Jookia | What's an astroturfer? | Aug 26 15:33 |
| schestowitz | http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=573216 | Aug 26 15:34 |
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| schestowitz | Span possible too | Aug 26 15:34 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: contributing to Linux by adding to it ways to run WIndows? | Aug 26 15:35 |
| gnufreex | Jookia: Astroturfer is usualy paid evangelist. They go to forums make masses beleive in Microsoft crap. | Aug 26 15:35 |
| schestowitz | I could give someone a broom to sweep my floor I guess, then call it a gift | Aug 26 15:35 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: what do you think of Apple's attempt to monopolize the publishing industry? | Aug 26 15:35 |
| Jookia | Wait, people get paid to spout bullshit? | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | But most people likie managers don't know what hype-V [sic] is | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | it's just hype | Aug 26 15:36 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I wouldn't consider Amazon angels in this capacity but I still feel they don't hold a candle to Apple endeavors | Aug 26 15:36 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I am not saying that, I just say what I see people say. | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | "All you need to know is that Microsoft doesn't hate Linux, it contributes to it"-Microsoft rep | Aug 26 15:36 |
| gnufreex | Jookia: How do you think Microsoft get its supporters? | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: they are under probe for price fixing | Aug 26 15:37 |
| schestowitz | As in, Apple and Amazon setting bottom threshold like LCD makers | Aug 26 15:37 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Who, Microsoft? | Aug 26 15:37 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 26 15:38 |
| schestowitz | Apple+Amazon | Aug 26 15:38 |
| schestowitz | Apple + Amazon are suspected to have colluded | Aug 26 15:39 |
| gnufreex | Ah, I see. | Aug 26 15:39 |
| Ziomatrix | Want Apple styled inspiration? Go to MoMa: http://tinyurl.com/2mq5eu | Aug 26 15:39 |
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| schestowitz | But nothing at FTC level | Aug 26 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Just some group which wants to study it | Aug 26 15:39 |
| schestowitz | In one state, IIRC | Aug 26 15:40 |
| schestowitz | West Coast somewhere, I think | Aug 26 15:40 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: oh, no... not Gizmodo | Aug 26 15:40 |
| schestowitz | It has IV ads | Aug 26 15:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks builds a legal shield in Sweden | Reuters http://yhoo.it/cZTUuV | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Sure, the plug image is fun http://bit.ly/as0KET #openstandards #rand #lobby | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] It wrong and disturbing for the press to be talking about 'molestation'. Correct translation: http://bit.ly/cWgC2E | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Estimating economic impact of Google Book Search: study finds no evidence of negative impact on publishers http://bit.ly/cGhKCr | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Michael Moore: "Meet our terrorists" http://bit.ly/b4w8Nv | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Raising Money To Put Famous Classical Music Recordings Into The Public Domain http://dlvr.it/4HY0s | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] 25% of Worms Spread Via USB http://bit.ly/bLOAZn | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] @fosspatents Are you an opponent or strategic adversary of OpenForum Europe? | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks builds a legal shield in Sweden - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 139.46 KB | Aug 26 15:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @jwildeboer: "We’ve already lost a number of companies to Europe and Asia over our software patent system" - http://is.gd/eEtk0 | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Good old Pravda to the rescue again: http://bit.ly/dvwILo | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fakin a standardization expert « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 20.77 KB | Aug 26 15:40 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't even click on it | Aug 26 15:40 |
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| schestowitz | Twitter went insane again (lag) | Aug 26 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tech at Night: California, Net Neutrality, Google, Verizon, Oracle, Software Patents | RedState .::. Size~: 85.06 KB | Aug 26 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks' Explosive Publications Masterminded by US Administration? - Pravda.Ru .::. Size~: 33.02 KB | Aug 26 15:41 |
| Jookia | I don't understand why Wikileaks can't just release something big. | Aug 26 15:41 |
| Jookia | They should re-release insurance.aes256 under a different name and unprotected. :P | Aug 26 15:42 |
| Ziomatrix | Jookia: because where is the profit in building up notoriety with that? | Aug 26 15:42 |
| Jookia | Wikileaks is making profit? | Aug 26 15:42 |
| Ziomatrix | Jookia: you release the most that you have a little at a time to ensure you always hold aces in accessing information | Aug 26 15:43 |
| Jookia | Ah. | Aug 26 15:43 |
| Ziomatrix | Jookia: you think he offers publishing rights to major outlets for free? | Aug 26 15:43 |
| Ziomatrix | you just gotta love a Pot calling what they claim to be a Kettle Black | Aug 26 15:45 |
| Ziomatrix | a majority of Russian media is not only state sponsored but also steered. | Aug 26 15:45 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Ouch, don't tweet me! #troll | Aug 26 15:45 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Aug 26 15:48 |
| gnufreex | Hi | Aug 26 15:49 |
| Ziomatrix | hey | Aug 26 15:49 |
| Jookia | Hi | Aug 26 15:49 |
| Jookia | LOL | Aug 26 15:49 |
| gnufreex | LOL | Aug 26 15:49 |
| Jookia | Has anybody watched Primer? | Aug 26 15:49 |
| gnufreex | What's Primer? | Aug 26 15:49 |
| Jookia | A brilliant movie. | Aug 26 15:50 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: I was wondering that as well | Aug 26 15:50 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/26-08-2010/114758-wikileaks-0 | Aug 26 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks' Explosive Publications Masterminded by US Administration? - Pravda.Ru .::. Size~: 33.02 KB | Aug 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz | So Pravda... | Aug 26 15:52 |
| Jookia | The US love taking credit for stuff. | Aug 26 15:52 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] @ffii I'm an observer of @openforumeurope and members, and contrary to opponent, I'm in favor of even more openness and freedom from swpats. | Aug 26 15:52 | |
| Jookia | The conspiracy theories about 9/11 are great, it makes it look like the US is capable of anything smart. | Aug 26 15:52 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #impressive #RHT stock price knows only one direction ATM - up http://is.gd/eEZ5l | Aug 26 15:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat, Inc.: NYSE:RHT quotes & news - Google Finance .::. Size~: 66.91 KB | Aug 26 15:53 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Making Ubuntu look like Windows 7 http://is.gd/eEZ7R This could fool some Win 7 users with this for days. #Ubuntu #Linux | Aug 26 15:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LinuxTrends » Making Ubuntu look like Windows 7 .::. Size~: 51.59 KB | Aug 26 15:54 |
| Ziomatrix | Patent producing think tank tries to pass off as modern Edison Lab: http://tinyurl.com/292cnmx | Aug 26 15:54 |
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| Jookia | Why do you want Ubuntu to look like Windows 7? | Aug 26 15:55 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @ffii fauxpatents has made friends on twitter with 2 accounts that are dedicated just to trolling me | Aug 26 15:55 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer fauxpatents might say it means SAP is coming to get you | Aug 26 15:56 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer #impressive #RHT stock price knows only one direction ATM - up http://is.gd/eEZ5l | Aug 26 15:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat, Inc.: NYSE:RHT quotes & news - Google Finance .::. Size~: 66.93 KB | Aug 26 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: I don't think I can read puff pieces | Aug 26 15:58 |
| schestowitz | I get enough of that every Sunday (when I read Microsoft+Gates news) | Aug 26 15:58 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz and @swardley claims Red Hat will buy Novell. But in reality we are just doing business as usual. | Aug 26 15:58 | |
| schestowitz | "After sixteen months spent seeding the trade press, it was time to think of the end users. For this, Waggener Edstrom leaked exclusive Windows 95 puff stories to all of the important newspapers and publications." | Aug 26 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Her daughter wrote this | Aug 26 15:59 |
| Ziomatrix | more lawsuits that could make kittens cry: http://tinyurl.com/344gana | Aug 26 15:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Facebook Says It Owns "Book" .::. Size~: 151.79 KB | Aug 26 15:59 |
| Jookia | This just in: MySpace owns "My" | Aug 26 15:59 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Novell should report results today? | Aug 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch owns the Sky | Aug 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Skype not legal for him... | Aug 26 16:00 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer nobody wants to buy Novell. Maybe some Vulture like Singer or Paulson will buy and sell pieces of it. | Aug 26 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/markets/article.html?in_article_id=511691&in_page_id=3 | Aug 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/7937549/Rupert-Murdoch-fights-to-take-the-sky-out-of-Skype.html | Aug 26 16:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Skype vs Sky name dispute revealed in stock market float | This is Money .::. Size~: 109.96 KB | Aug 26 16:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rupert Murdoch fights to take the 'sky' out of 'Skype' - Telegraph .::. Size~: 55.41 KB | Aug 26 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch also owns myspace | Aug 26 16:01 |
| schestowitz | he could take "my" out of many things | Aug 26 16:01 |
| schestowitz | OhMy! | Aug 26 16:01 |
| *Jookia takes Schestowitz to court. | Aug 26 16:01 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] Wow: Red Hat stock approaching $135 -- sorry, I got confused, that was December 1999. Strike that "1" or talk to SAP about it ;-) | Aug 26 16:01 | |
| schestowitz | Hey, maybe ol 'Rupert owns both the sky and space | Aug 26 16:02 |
| schestowitz | I thing these are both places I'd love to send him :-) | Aug 26 16:02 |
| Jookia | Next thing you know they're shutting down any websites with the word 'my' in it. | Aug 26 16:02 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: funny thing is in the case of Facebook, there are the terms phonebook (a way to look up correlating names with phonenumbers), addressbooks and even the term facebook was what some highschools called yearbooks because everyone has a face above their name in a book der! | Aug 26 16:03 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Welcome to the land of the free http://bit.ly/a3Lhcv | Aug 26 16:03 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Fauxpatents Mueller is now bashing Red Hat. Why am I not surprised? | Aug 26 16:03 | |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: Murdoch own my sky and space | Aug 26 16:03 |
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| schestowitz | Jookia: all malaysia sites too? | Aug 26 16:03 |
| Jookia | Yes. | Aug 26 16:04 |
| Jookia | He sues Malaysia. | Aug 26 16:04 |
| schestowitz | .my suffix | Aug 26 16:04 |
| Jookia | Hahaha. | Aug 26 16:04 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I would like to see that van pass a school full of children and then indite them for pedophilia | Aug 26 16:04 |
| Jookia | He sues Microsoft for the pronounciation. | Aug 26 16:05 |
| schestowitz | space.my | Aug 26 16:05 |
| sebsebseb | Hrm so where to get a nice Linux compatible lap top from when in UK? Novatech not quite it seems | Aug 26 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: they'll call it "art" | Aug 26 16:05 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @thistleweb land of the fee | Aug 26 16:05 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.space.com.my/ | Aug 26 16:05 |
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| schestowitz | I smell a lawsuit | Aug 26 16:05 |
| Jookia | He sues any movie where any characters say "GET OUT OF MY SPACE! I'M TRYING TO BREATHE! MY AIR!" | Aug 26 16:06 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: why not? | Aug 26 16:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: since this one may have issues http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/xplora.html | Aug 26 16:06 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and ATI cards are dodgy when it comes to Linux | Aug 26 16:06 |
| sebsebseb | it seems | Aug 26 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Last year he accused papers of 'stealing' his stories | Aug 26 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Excepts from RSS were shown | Aug 26 16:07 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Aug 26 16:07 |
| schestowitz | he didn't know his own sites did the same to other sites | Aug 26 16:07 |
| schestowitz | I'd say he got caught with his pants down, but I wouldn't bear the thought | Aug 26 16:07 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] I'm using it. Looks great! RT @bob_sutor: IBM #Lotus #Symphony 3 Beta 4 is now available http://bit.ly/93E5TW #odf | Aug 26 16:07 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Firefox_Beta_4_comes_with_Panorama_Tab_Manager/551-112675-643.html | Aug 26 16:08 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. So many users of Symphony | Aug 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | All two of them | Aug 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Both IBM employees :-) | Aug 26 16:09 |
| Jookia | Symphony? | Aug 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Sym phony | Aug 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Phone OOo | Aug 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | With blobs | Aug 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | *phony | Aug 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | At least it helps spread ODF | Aug 26 16:09 |
| bobby_ | Jookia: problem with your theory is that the US has overthrown countless of govts and had countless of Gulf of Tonkin and Racak fake massacres to justify their wars. While 911 might or might not have been organized by them, it follows a pattern they have perfected throughout the century to justify wars. | Aug 26 16:10 |
| Jookia | Meh, I dunno. | Aug 26 16:10 |
| Jookia | I think the US in general sucks and I'm surprised how it hasn't been nuked, everybody hates it. | Aug 26 16:11 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: I was looking into this one: http://tinyurl.com/29a7tqv | Aug 26 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Newegg.com - ASUS K72 Series K72DR-X1 NoteBook AMD Phenom II Triple-Core N830(2.1GHz) 17.3" 4GB Memory DDR3 1066 500GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 .::. Size~: 120.63 KB | Aug 26 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: no, don't say that | Aug 26 16:11 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: for you, you mean? | Aug 26 16:11 |
| sebsebseb | I don't think we have newegg here, unless can buy from them online | Aug 26 16:12 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: yep, hopefully its not like the last AMD notebook I got which tended heat up like a volcano | Aug 26 16:12 |
| Jookia | :\ | Aug 26 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Geez. ECT is annoying: http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/70669.html?wlc=1282835489 | Aug 26 16:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News: Community: Is Oracle Becoming the New Microsoft? .::. Size~: 55.87 KB | Aug 26 16:12 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: thats something else I been wondering about actsaully | Aug 26 16:12 |
| sebsebseb | lap top getting to hot when running a distro | Aug 26 16:12 |
| Jookia | I have to go searching for another laptop. | Aug 26 16:12 |
| sebsebseb | I know it happens sometimes with Ubuntu | Aug 26 16:12 |
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| schestowitz | Ubuntu *is* HOT! | Aug 26 16:13 |
| Jookia | My current one is from 2005, is x86 and lags playing Flash. | Aug 26 16:13 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: you just need a notebook with a good thermal dynamic design which doesn't cram the same heatpipe for the CPU and GPU | Aug 26 16:13 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: do you know from personal experience? | Aug 26 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Or did linxs**** write this in UF? | Aug 26 16:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: no from #ubuntu | Aug 26 16:13 |
| schestowitz | WHo said it? | Aug 26 16:13 |
| sebsebseb | quite a few people | Aug 26 16:13 |
| sebsebseb | every now and again | Aug 26 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Maybe power management? | Aug 26 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Linux fares well compared to Windows | Aug 26 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Phoronix has benchmarks | Aug 26 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Go check em | Aug 26 16:14 |
| Jookia | My computer is meant for gaming, but now I just have it for programming and it runs Arch Linux and OpenBox. | Aug 26 16:14 |
| Jookia | I'm such a buzzkill. | Aug 26 16:14 |
| sebsebseb | buzzkill ? | Aug 26 16:14 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: the last notebook was an MSI-1029 with a 2.2Ghz Turion 64, 1Gb of RAM and a 128mb ATI x700 GPU | Aug 26 16:15 |
| Jookia | You'd expect something bigger. | Aug 26 16:15 |
| schestowitz | belluzo | Aug 26 16:15 |
| Jookia | I might aswell have a pentium 2 | Aug 26 16:15 |
| sebsebseb | apparnetly Acer is good | Aug 26 16:15 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Belluzzo | Aug 26 16:15 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: it performed nicely, when it didn't overheat but it only had 2 hours of battery due to a cheap 4 cell battery | Aug 26 16:15 |
| sebsebseb | hrm | Aug 26 16:15 |
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| sebsebseb | I want a lap top that just works with Mandriva, but not quite so simple | Aug 26 16:15 |
| sebsebseb | lap tops are the ones that tend to have the hardware issues with Linux distros | Aug 26 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Not Linux having a problem with laptops | Aug 26 16:16 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: I also opted dumbly for a high capacity but lower speed (5400rpm as apposed to 7200rpm) hardrive | Aug 26 16:16 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well it is kind of, since the lack of manufacture support | Aug 26 16:17 |
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| schestowitz | Professional and moderate, eh? http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/70687.html | Aug 26 16:17 |
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| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: I put Linux on a Fujitsu Lifebook P7120D and it works great | Aug 26 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | and they don't have a driver revrse enginnered | Aug 26 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: ok got one of those maybe that sells in UK? | Aug 26 16:17 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: only proprietary driver needed it for the 56k modem | Aug 26 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: my brother only needs something quite basic, and for not that much | Aug 26 16:18 |
| sebsebseb | lap tops :( | Aug 26 16:18 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: I don't have one of those on me, but I'm sure you can find one for a reasonable price. I have to warn you that it has a weak Intel 950G GPU | Aug 26 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Another zdnet clown http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/web-design-and-foss-10004587/is-linux-the-natural-os-of-opposition-10018388/ showing Linux as negative and citing ms-sponsored 'market share' #s | Aug 26 16:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Linux the natural OS of opposition? | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 39.3 KB | Aug 26 16:19 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: but it being a 10.6' its performance is adequate for productivity and it definitely handles sites such as Youtube better then when it had XP | Aug 26 16:19 |
| gnufreex | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ruboto-Android-App-development-with-Ruby-1067515.html | Aug 26 16:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ruboto: Android App development with Ruby - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.87 KB | Aug 26 16:21 |
| gnufreex | Google now EEEs Ruby | Aug 26 16:21 |
| schestowitz | that's just grooby! | Aug 26 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Better than IronyRuby | Aug 26 16:23 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: is Intel and Nvidia better then an entirely AMD notebook for Linux compatibility? | Aug 26 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Which is seemingly dead now | Aug 26 16:23 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, better than IronRuby which is under MS-PL | Aug 26 16:23 |
| cubevector | Nvidia makes a good heating element | Aug 26 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: I don't use Intel, so don't know... | Aug 26 16:23 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: originally hey had another fork | Aug 26 16:24 |
| schestowitz | And I think they changed to apache recently | Aug 26 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Ttraitor de Icaza blogger about it | Aug 26 16:24 |
| schestowitz | *blogged | Aug 26 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Either way, there used to be two 'ms ruby' projectsa | Aug 26 16:24 |
| schestowitz | One Microsoft-owned | Aug 26 16:24 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: They changed IronPython to Apache, I don't know about IronRuby. They hate ruby because it's GPL | Aug 26 16:24 |
| schestowitz | And they collapsed the non-Microsoft one | Aug 26 16:24 |
| schestowitz | In 2008 | Aug 26 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Python is controlled by Google in a sense | Aug 26 16:25 |
| schestowitz | And JPython is probably just history now | Aug 26 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Dalvik helped GOogle EEE Java | Aug 26 16:25 |
| gnufreex | JPython is history for a wlile now, but but Jython is stil | Aug 26 16:26 |
| gnufreex | Jython is still going | Aug 26 16:26 |
| gnufreex | Red Hate made JBoss TorqueBox project, they bolted JRuby, Scala, Jython, Ruby on rails, they bolted all that on top of JBossAS | Aug 26 16:27 |
| schestowitz | I recently listened to http://twit.tv/floss102 | Aug 26 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The TWiT Netcast Network with Leo Laporte .::. Size~: 26.41 KB | Aug 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz | "Guest: Frank Wierzbicki for Jython" | Aug 26 16:28 |
| gnufreex | Where to click to listen | Aug 26 16:29 |
| gnufreex | Aha, there it is | Aug 26 16:29 |
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| schestowitz | IDG is advertising its own (IDC) numbers and only COUNTS Revenue for LINUX. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/082510-windows-linux-unix-servers.html watch " | Aug 26 16:30 |
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| schestowitz | * Social Web | Aug 26 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | Watch how they sneak "Microsoft: 'We love open source'" in the middle | Aug 26 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Not even relevant to the article | Aug 26 16:32 |
| schestowitz | More IDG propaganda | Aug 26 16:32 |
| schestowitz | "Hey, WIndows is big cause revenue for it is higher.... and Microsoft also loves open source" | Aug 26 16:32 |
| gnufreex | Intel is loving IDG... | Aug 26 16:32 |
| schestowitz | "So it's all fair" | Aug 26 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Bunch of buggers | Aug 26 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Jon Brodkin didn't use to suck so much | Aug 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz | They don't even give disclosure... that IDC is their own company | Aug 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz | "@elxa @schestowitz For us it's a pleasure when someone buys us a punch bag!" --FFII | Aug 26 16:35 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/22184993300 | Aug 26 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / FFII e.V.: @elxa @schestowitz For us ... .::. Size~: 11.78 KB | Aug 26 16:35 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: "I must admit Acer are by far my preferred choice for hardware, never let down." http://twitter.com/_Goblin/statuses/22184968471 | Aug 26 16:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / Tim (Goblin): @schestowitz I must admit ... .::. Size~: 11.93 KB | Aug 26 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Maybe go with a refund from them, assuming tim succeeds | Aug 26 16:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok so Tim would recommend Acer | Aug 26 16:36 |
| sebsebseb | someone in Mandriva channel did as well | Aug 26 16:37 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Video Showing Half a Million Asteroid Discoveries http://bit.ly/cKEef7 | Aug 26 16:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z re-read that key sentence that I quoted. It's practically the #gop platform: http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/22114516145 #china | Aug 26 16:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] http://howfuckedismydatabase.com/ damn you james | Aug 26 16:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] @wikileaks gosh, you'd think the press reporting on Wikileaks were treating it as a competitor to be vanquished. c.f. Washington Post. | Aug 26 16:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Is there a saucy version of Twitter ala the naughty postcards called Titter? | Aug 26 16:40 | |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I find Giga-Byte has made some great AMD mobos as of late | Aug 26 16:47 |
| Ziomatrix | thats of course going by their socket AM2 and AM3 models | Aug 26 16:48 |
| gnufreex | Ziomatrix: Wait for AM3+ mobos. So you can stick Bulldozer in it whe comes out. I don't know when AM3+ will be out though, but it will be out before Bulldozer. | Aug 26 16:49 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Japan-hosted ACTA round in September to be Vice-Ministerial level meeting with plans to finalize treaty. http://bit.ly/dwIIlg | Aug 26 16:51 | |
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| Ziomatrix | gnufreex: you think Bulldozer will be the Core i7 beater AMD needs? | Aug 26 16:52 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] BMI Appeals Ruling That Lets Venues Route Around BMI, Claiming It Somehow Harms Musicians http://dlvr.it/4Hhqj | Aug 26 16:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BMI Appeals Ruling That Lets Venues Route Around BMI, Claiming It Somehow Harms Musicians | Techdirt .::. Size~: 25.83 KB | Aug 26 16:53 |
| gnufreex | It will be better than today's Core i7 for sure, but I am not sure what will intel throw out before Bulldozer comes out. | Aug 26 16:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris RT @threethirty ♻ @corq: Drunken Employee Shoots Server: http://bit.ly/clraJd << Y'know, I've had d http://haris.status.net/no ... | Aug 26 16:58 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] UVB-76 Explained http://bit.ly/cJVzIi | Aug 26 16:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Technology Story | UVB-76 Explained .::. Size~: 47.82 KB | Aug 26 16:58 |
| Ziomatrix | gnufreex: anyway thanks for the reminder, later | Aug 26 17:02 |
| *Ziomatrix has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Aug 26 17:02 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Fat Fingered Sumo Wrestlers Given iPads http://bit.ly/a1NUCY | Aug 26 17:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Idle Story | Fat Fingered Sumo Wrestlers Given iPads .::. Size~: 35.74 KB | Aug 26 17:07 |
| ThistleWeb | just what apple want, extremely fat blokes in nappies as newsworthy customers | Aug 26 17:08 |
| ThistleWeb | not quite sure they fit the mould of the ideal turtleneck idol consumer | Aug 26 17:08 |
| *schestowitz thinks "who cares who gets hypepads?" **puff pice alert** | Aug 26 17:08 | |
| schestowitz | *piece | Aug 26 17:09 |
| ThistleWeb | having said that, sumo wrestlers are held in very high regard in japan, they're influencial | Aug 26 17:09 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a shrewd move from apple, they will get sales because of it | Aug 26 17:10 |
| schestowitz | japan is a strong market for them | Aug 26 17:14 |
| schestowitz | I think they can get like 30% of sales there | Aug 26 17:14 |
| schestowitz | I saw some #S in 2008 | Aug 26 17:14 |
| ThistleWeb | japan is a very tech savy market | Aug 26 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Land of the fi | Aug 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Fidelity | Aug 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Not land of the fee | Aug 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Eurolinux posting from Windows http://twitter.com/elxa | Aug 26 17:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Eurolinux Alliance (elxa) on Twitter .::. Size~: 31.23 KB | Aug 26 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Sender: Eurolinux Office <eurolinuxalliance@googlemail.com> | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Message-ID: <4C769008.60101@eurolinux.org> | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:02:16 +0200 | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | From: Eurolinux <office@eurolinux.org> | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Organization: Eurolinux HQ | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; de; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | To: Roy Schestowitz | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Subject: Free Punch Bags - get involved | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.talkstandards.com/questions-for-standards-and-oss-open-forum/ | Aug 26 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Questions for Standards and OSS Open Forum | Talkstandards .::. Size~: 45.42 KB | Aug 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz | FFII: @elxa @schestowitz For us it's a pleasure when someone buys us a punch bag! | Aug 26 17:30 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @rikkikite: Interview with Susan Rose, Ohio LinuxFest Medical Track Committee Chair: http://is.gd/eF87v Open source & medicine together. | Aug 26 17:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @rww Why Large Hadron Collider Scientists are Using #CouchDB http://rww.tw/b1vY1x #lhc #cern #nosql #bigdata #physics | Aug 26 17:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Stay tuned... we'll be issuing a statement concerning a legal threat directed at Techdirt shortly. | Aug 26 17:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Fending off the digital dark ages: The archival storage issue http://is.gd/eF8Oa Me: FWIW, I consider this a critical issue. | Aug 26 17:40 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fending off the digital dark ages: The archival storage issue - Computerworld .::. Size~: 78.29 KB | Aug 26 17:40 |
| ThistleWeb | whats the chances the techdirt threat will be about the jenifer aniston pics? | Aug 26 17:42 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Attorneys General Continue Grandstanding Against Craigslist http://dlvr.it/4HntV | Aug 26 17:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Attorneys General Continue Grandstanding Against Craigslist | Techdirt .::. Size~: 26.62 KB | Aug 26 17:44 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Air Force Uses Falcons To Protect Falcons http://bit.ly/9rwmGz | Aug 26 17:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Technology Story | Air Force Uses Falcons To Protect Falcons .::. Size~: 46.72 KB | Aug 26 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New post @michaelgeist: Has the U.S. Caved on Secondary Liability in !ACTA? http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5273/125/ !copyright | Aug 26 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: likely | Aug 26 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Like Ralph Lauren | Aug 26 17:55 |
| ThistleWeb | the lawyers got all pissy at the unaltered pics being published, techdirt showed them too, it's an easy guess | Aug 26 17:56 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 26 17:58 |
| schestowitz | perfect 10 [pun] | Aug 26 17:58 |
| ThistleWeb | anyone naieve enough to believe these images are not photoshoped desevres to be hoodwinked | Aug 26 18:01 |
| ThistleWeb | some alteration like colour balance is natural anyway | Aug 26 18:01 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Tech Hiring Creeps Back to Health by @LisaVaas http://itexpertvoice.com/home/tech-hiring-creeps-back-to-health/ | Aug 26 18:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tech Hiring Creeps Back to Health « IT Expert Voice .::. Size~: 46.94 KB | Aug 26 18:05 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @wrash: Are you ready for a Tablet Tsunami? It's coming! See http://tinyurl.com/39oxhvz | Aug 26 18:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple iPad, Kindle Sales Warn of Coming Tablet Tsunami - IT Infrastructure from eWeek .::. Size~: 108.17 KB | Aug 26 18:06 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: it's always like that | Aug 26 18:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New blog post: “Writers Groups” presume too much http://www.ur1.ca/1a2dl !fixc32 !copyfight #accesscopyright #cdnpoli !canada | Aug 26 18:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Writers Groups presume too much « Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 42.31 KB | Aug 26 18:23 |
| schestowitz | At the very least they remove some moles or adjust colours or something | Aug 26 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Esp. for mag covers | Aug 26 18:23 |
| schestowitz | That's what sells | Aug 26 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Novell will announce results soon | Aug 26 18:25 |
| gnufreex | Does anyone know what Network Appliance did with ZFS lawsuit? | Aug 26 18:26 |
| schestowitz | NetApp? | Aug 26 18:26 |
| gnufreex | Yes | Aug 26 18:26 |
| schestowitz | They sue another one now | Aug 26 18:26 |
| gnufreex | Who? | Aug 26 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Not sure what Sun did,c.f. groklaw | Aug 26 18:26 |
| gnufreex | Who they sue now. | Aug 26 18:26 |
| gnufreex | ? | Aug 26 18:26 |
| gnufreex | They shaken down Coraid, so they dumped ZFS | Aug 26 18:27 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/07/09/multinationals-in-new-zealand/ | Aug 26 18:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Patents Roundup: Bosch Security Systems Patents Signals, NetApp Bullies ZFS Providers, New Zealand Infiltrated by Foreign Lobby NZICT | Techrights .::. Size~: 112.26 KB | Aug 26 18:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.infostor.com/index/blogs_new/kevin_komiega_storage_blog/blogs/infostor/kevin_komiega_storage/post987_4110226808087625768.html | Aug 26 18:27 |
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| schestowitz | The Zune fans finally stopped bugging me :-) | Aug 26 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Poor kids... | Aug 26 18:28 |
| gnufreex | They were bugging you in comments on techrights? | Aug 26 18:29 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 26 18:37 |
| schestowitz | the comments are closed on old items | Aug 26 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, this escalated to Microsoft spokespeople | Aug 26 18:38 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @wakizaki: Bcache Testing: Throughput | Linux Magazine http://bit.ly/cAsrS9 Me" Promising stuff. | Aug 26 18:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @ExpertVoice: The Four Dimensions of Cloud Provisioning by @SMFulton3 http://ow.ly/2vhM3 #cloud #datacenter | Aug 26 18:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] The main sites are unavailable during scheduled maintenance work. We apologize for the inconvenience. | Aug 26 18:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] What exactly is xkill supposed to do, because it doens't kill the targetted app, just the GUI front end of it, which is pointless | Aug 26 18:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Statement on the legal threat demanding we shut down Techdirt: http://bit.ly/d4btqc | Aug 26 18:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] How Star Wars Trumped Star Trek For Scientific Accuracy http://bit.ly/a8Mlqs | Aug 26 18:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Great to catch up with @chr1sa for breakfast and some really interesting discussion. :-) | Aug 26 18:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bcache Testing: Throughput | Linux Magazine .::. Size~: 53.33 KB | Aug 26 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Four Dimensions of Cloud Provisioning « IT Expert Voice .::. Size~: 56.62 KB | Aug 26 18:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Legal Threat Demands We Shut Down Techdirt | Techdirt .::. Size~: 32.93 KB | Aug 26 18:41 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Mr Morris. I hope you'll apprectaie the SEO ranking of your name, these threats and the original alegations http://bit.ly/bf6K4P | Aug 26 18:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Legal Threat Demands We Shut Down Techdirt | Techdirt .::. Size~: 36.73 KB | Aug 26 18:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/8/2010: Vyatta Get IPv6 Certification, a Lot of Droid 2 Coverage http://ur1.ca/1a3mq !techrights #android | Aug 26 18:58 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 26/8/2010: Vyatta Get IPv6 Certification, a Lot of Droid 2 Coverage http://ur1.ca/1a3mq #techrights #android | Aug 26 18:58 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Legal Threat Demands We Shut Down Techdirt http://dlvr.it/4HwhT | Aug 26 18:58 | |
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| Jookia | Who wants a good laugh? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb496489.aspx | Aug 26 19:00 |
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| *_Goblin (~goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrights | Aug 26 19:03 | |
| _Goblin | bonjour all | Aug 26 19:03 |
| _Goblin | 2 days off for me.... | Aug 26 19:03 |
| _Goblin | lifes good | Aug 26 19:03 |
| _Goblin | until Sunday | Aug 26 19:03 |
| Jookia | Hehe | Aug 26 19:03 |
| _Goblin | :) | Aug 26 19:03 |
| _Goblin | New visitor here? | Aug 26 19:03 |
| _Goblin | Never seen that handle before..... | Aug 26 19:04 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: no, I'm sure you've been here before ;) | Aug 26 19:04 |
| _Goblin | eh? | Aug 26 19:04 |
| Jookia | I think they're talking about me, the guy who was lurking at the website and somehow popped by on a good day in IRC where people weren't AFK. | Aug 26 19:04 |
| _Goblin | ah | Aug 26 19:05 |
| _Goblin | got a little confused with that. | Aug 26 19:05 |
| *ThistleWeb was jus' messin' | Aug 26 19:05 | |
| _Goblin | ah! | Aug 26 19:05 |
| _Goblin | lol... | Aug 26 19:05 |
| _Goblin | Well I don't think Ive spoken to you before Jookia....hI! | Aug 26 19:05 |
| Jookia | Hi. :D | Aug 26 19:06 |
| _Goblin | you better like Monty Python & Red Dwarf or you will get the cold shoulder from me! ;) | Aug 26 19:06 |
| Jookia | I don't.. Lie mode cancel.. | Aug 26 19:07 |
| _Goblin | lol | Aug 26 19:07 |
| _Goblin | excellent - youre in! | Aug 26 19:07 |
| ThistleWeb | on a warm day, a cold shoulder is a welcome thing | Aug 26 19:07 |
| _Goblin | and good answer too! | Aug 26 19:07 |
| _Goblin | not a goblin one thistleweb! | Aug 26 19:07 |
| _Goblin | thistleweb: Im up to your beautiful country at xmas this year | Aug 26 19:08 |
| ThistleWeb | shhhh, nobody knows I own it | Aug 26 19:08 |
| _Goblin | ok...I'll keep it under my cowboy hat. | Aug 26 19:08 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | Aug 26 19:09 |
| Jookia | I just ranted my head off at my blog about something I just found out. | Aug 26 19:10 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: Jookia is cool | Aug 26 19:10 |
| _Goblin | yep | Aug 26 19:10 |
| schestowitz | New around here | Aug 26 19:10 |
| _Goblin | he's a Red Dwarf fan | Aug 26 19:10 |
| schestowitz | IRC, that i | Aug 26 19:10 |
| schestowitz | IRC, that is | Aug 26 19:10 |
| Jookia | :P | Aug 26 19:10 |
| Jookia | SDL has the same keyboard keycode numbering as X11 does while Windows has a completely different one. | Aug 26 19:11 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I can relate to techdirt there | Aug 26 19:11 |
| Jookia | Only Windows has a different keycode numbering in comparison to the other two major systems. | Aug 26 19:11 |
| Jookia | I really don't get it. | Aug 26 19:11 |
| schestowitz | But the last time we had threats of this severity was a year ago | Aug 26 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Mike Masnick and I corresponded a month ago | Aug 26 19:12 |
| schestowitz | The same guy bullied both of us | Aug 26 19:12 |
| Jookia | Bullied? | Aug 26 19:12 |
| MinceR | SDL is a layer over X11 and winblows, respectively | Aug 26 19:12 |
| schestowitz | For rubbishing his site's integrity | Aug 26 19:12 |
| schestowitz | For being a bully | Aug 26 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Which lead him to.... being a bully to us :-) | Aug 26 19:12 |
| MinceR | they (rightly) chose to adopt X11's numbering, i suppose | Aug 26 19:12 |
| MinceR | (and translate winblows' numbering to it) | Aug 26 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Exposing bullies is not too smart | Aug 26 19:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Some Linux Distros Vulnerable to Version of DLL Hijacking Bug | threatpost http://ow.ly/2vjGt | Aug 26 19:13 | |
| schestowitz | Then they divert the bullying to you | Aug 26 19:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Some Linux Distros Vulnerable to Version of DLL Hijacking Bug | threatpost .::. Size~: 59.14 KB | Aug 26 19:13 |
| cubevector | X ftw | Aug 26 19:13 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 26 19:13 |
| Jookia | How could we be vunerable? | Aug 26 19:13 |
| schestowitz | It's like when you see someone stabbing someone in the street... not smart to approach and defend the victim | Aug 26 19:13 |
| MinceR | i didn't know .so-s are searched in the working directory | Aug 26 19:13 |
| schestowitz | wine? | Aug 26 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Mono? | Aug 26 19:14 |
| MinceR | oh, i see the issue | Aug 26 19:14 |
| Jookia | No, it's a similar bug introduced by a Debian patch. | Aug 26 19:14 |
| cubevector | so how do the bad guys get an .so file on your box? | Aug 26 19:14 |
| MinceR | naive setting of LD_LIBRARY_PATH may introduce an empty string into the path | Aug 26 19:14 |
| Jookia | I don't know why it's written as 'vunerable to version of DLL hijacking bug' as it's totally different (from my ignorant view atleasy) | Aug 26 19:14 |
| MinceR | cubevector: same as the DLL case | Aug 26 19:14 |
| MinceR | but this one is a lot less likely to be exploitable | Aug 26 19:15 |
| Jookia | Written in some small text after you get over the hysteria: "However, security experts say the problem isn't on the same scale as the DLL hijacking flaw and is far less worrisome. Dave Aitel, CTO of Immunity, said that the Linux problem doesn't appear to be a direct analog to the Windows DLL bug, which he characterized as a serious flaw in the operating system, much like the Windows shatter attacks from 2002." | Aug 26 19:15 |
| MinceR | in winblows, the default behavior (due to backwards compatibility) is vulnerable | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Oh, it's those TUrfers | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | ThreatPOST | Aug 26 19:16 |
| MinceR | here a shell scripting mistake may cause a similar effect | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Kaspersky pays them for "content" | Aug 26 19:16 |
| MinceR | oh. | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | SJVN wrote about it ysterday | Aug 26 19:16 |
| MinceR | kaspersky sucks | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | See the tilted penguin picture | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Appeal to emotion | Aug 26 19:16 |
| Jookia | MinceR: Oh, it's a SHELL scripting mistake? | Aug 26 19:17 |
| MinceR | it is | Aug 26 19:17 |
| MinceR | the error is in the export line in their example | Aug 26 19:17 |
| MinceR | and they explain why | Aug 26 19:17 |
| Jookia | So if I run it like 90% of apps (without a script) it should be fine? | Aug 26 19:17 |
| MinceR | it's an easy mistake to make, but nevertheless it's a mistake :> | Aug 26 19:17 |
| Jookia | I'm sure it'll be patched. | Aug 26 19:17 |
| MinceR | yes, as long as those apps don't happen to use such a script to bootstrap themselves | Aug 26 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft Open Source Strategy is Upside Down. | Martin Iturbide http://ow.ly/2vjSJ | Aug 26 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How To Set Up A USB-Over-IP Server And Client With Ubuntu 10.04 | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials http://ow.ly/2vjUM | Aug 26 19:18 | |
| MinceR | bbl | Aug 26 19:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Open Source Strategy is Upside Down. | Martin Iturbide .::. Size~: 25.78 KB | Aug 26 19:18 |
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| Jookia | Bye. :( | Aug 26 19:18 |
| Jookia | schestowitz: Any news on the Hyper-V thing? | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Nope | Aug 26 19:19 |
| schestowitz | I'll do some posts now | Aug 26 19:19 |
| Jookia | Nobody knows what's going on? | Aug 26 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Novell results out soon | Aug 26 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: you need to ask core people | Aug 26 19:19 |
| Jookia | I don't know core people. :\ | Aug 26 19:19 |
| schestowitz | torvalds@linux-foundation.org | Aug 26 19:20 |
| Jookia | I don't really feel like mailing him of all people. XD | Aug 26 19:20 |
| cubevector | have you noticed that some video cards have huge heat sinks and fans now? | Aug 26 19:20 |
| cubevector | not like the old days | Aug 26 19:20 |
| Jookia | Well | Aug 26 19:22 |
| Jookia | There's more megahertz and things. | Aug 26 19:22 |
| Jookia | So it needs more cooling | Aug 26 19:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple Mac OS X OpenCL Performance vs. Linux http://ping.fm/RrKMZ | Aug 26 19:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Taking turns as open source bad guys http://ping.fm/BjPYp | Aug 26 19:28 | |
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| gnufreex | Jookia: Don't mail Torvalds, he will bitchslap yu. | Aug 26 19:28 |
| Jookia | I'm not going to. | Aug 26 19:29 |
| gnufreex | *you | Aug 26 19:29 |
| Jookia | I could probably wake up with a kidney gone. | Aug 26 19:29 |
| gnufreex | Haha | Aug 26 19:29 |
| ThistleWeb | isn't that a Jobs fatality? | Aug 26 19:30 |
| gnufreex | No, but he is not nice, he likes to flame people and such. | Aug 26 19:30 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: So got any recommendations for a nice Linux compatible lap top? | Aug 26 19:30 |
| ThistleWeb | FINISH HIM! | Aug 26 19:30 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: Yep... | Aug 26 19:30 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: any Acer | Aug 26 19:30 |
| Jookia | So Linus isn't a very nice guy? | Aug 26 19:30 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: Any Acer hrm | Aug 26 19:30 |
| ThistleWeb | as the bald char with the turtleneck rips out your liver and eats it | Aug 26 19:30 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I been finding out about a lap top, from another company, its AMD | Aug 26 19:30 |
| sebsebseb | ATI | Aug 26 19:30 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: probably be ok, but yeah people say Acer is good | Aug 26 19:30 |
| sebsebseb | ,but Acer always comes with pre installed Windows 7 I assume and yeah | Aug 26 19:31 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: I personally would always choose desktop over laptop, more bang for your buck. | Aug 26 19:31 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: right, but this is for my older brother | Aug 26 19:31 |
| sebsebseb | and he wants a lap top | Aug 26 19:31 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: ah | Aug 26 19:31 |
| ThistleWeb | Jookia: think of it this way, he's a regular bloke who gets celeb status wherever he goes in linux circle, he probs cant have a pee without being talked to | Aug 26 19:31 |
| Jookia | Ah | Aug 26 19:31 |
| Jookia | He's the kinda celeb where if he goes outside, nobody'd care. | Aug 26 19:31 |
| gnufreex | Jookia: Well, to put it bluntly, he is a jerk. He even admited that publicly. | Aug 26 19:31 |
| Jookia | Except us. | Aug 26 19:31 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I have been thinking about buying this http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/xplora.html | Aug 26 19:33 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: the reason I say Acer (not just because I think they are built well) is that everytime Ive installed Linux on a Acer system, I have not had any problems at all... | Aug 26 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The xplora Laptop @ Novatech .::. Size~: 84.45 KB | Aug 26 19:33 |
| gnufreex | Jokia: Read this: http://lwn.net/2000/0914/a/lt-debugger.php3 | Aug 26 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: a/lt-debugger .::. Size~: 5.79 KB | Aug 26 19:33 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: the price is good without an OS, got to buy a case seperatly | Aug 26 19:33 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: ,but yea 2GB RAM, is fine | Aug 26 19:33 |
| gnufreex | There is more, that is just one time. | Aug 26 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The People Who Support Linux: It's a Family Affair - Linux.com http://ping.fm/ULcFn | Aug 26 19:33 | |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: really just want something quite basic and cheap, he will do Facebook and other websites, and some typing, might want Windows on it as well | Aug 26 19:33 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: yep, seems good.... | Aug 26 19:33 |
| MinceR | 202858 < Jookia> I could probably wake up with a kidney gone. | Aug 26 19:33 |
| ThistleWeb | of all the people who approach him, how many are even remotely interesting, or at least not annoying? | Aug 26 19:33 |
| MinceR | hm... | Aug 26 19:33 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: its ATI though, but it sounds like that card will be ok | Aug 26 19:33 |
| MinceR | could we forge some mails to Linus? :> | Aug 26 19:33 |
| Jookia | Heheh | Aug 26 19:33 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: however Nivida is useually recommended for Mandriva, and I know Nividia tends to work well | Aug 26 19:33 |
| MinceR | nvidia. | Aug 26 19:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 26 19:33 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: ignore that description....its talking about the laptop being used with Windows... Linux will fly on that.... | Aug 26 19:34 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: there were issues with that lap top and 9.04, but seems it will be ok now. | Aug 26 19:34 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: I was recently running WOW on a system with considerably less specs than that laptop (with Wine) and it flew even on high detail settings. | Aug 26 19:34 |
| MinceR | that novatech page pimps m$ crap so much it isn't even funny | Aug 26 19:34 |
| Jookia | Linus seems like a fair guy | Aug 26 19:34 |
| Jookia | Considering he runs the biggest open source project in the world | Aug 26 19:35 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: can buy Office with it seperatly | Aug 26 19:35 |
| MinceR | 3 m$n logos, 1 winblows logo | Aug 26 19:35 |
| Jookia | That'd be a lot of pressure. | Aug 26 19:35 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah they are a Windows shop really, but they do sell naked PC's as well :) | Aug 26 19:35 |
| _Goblin | 250gig HD...if its for your brother, I suppose you could dual boot (if he has not used Linux before) | Aug 26 19:35 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: he has been using Linux :) | Aug 26 19:35 |
| sebsebseb | since like November | Aug 26 19:35 |
| _Goblin | ah cool | Aug 26 19:35 |
| MinceR | also, the threatpost article takes pains to link the apologist version of the windows shatter article, not the one with actual content | Aug 26 19:35 |
| sebsebseb | since XP really did mess up on the family computer | Aug 26 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: OooO is igger | Aug 26 19:35 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: so yeah it was Ubuntu for a while, and then yep jono 's beloved Ubuntu 10.04 messed up big time | Aug 26 19:36 |
| sebsebseb | refused to let anyone log in | Aug 26 19:36 |
| Jookia | schestowitz: Dear god I hope you meant 'bigger' | Aug 26 19:36 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 26 19:36 |
| sebsebseb | and so bye bye Ubuntu, hello Mandriva | Aug 26 19:36 |
| schestowitz | yes | Aug 26 19:36 |
| MinceR | another consonant would fit in there :> | Aug 26 19:36 |
| sebsebseb | on that computer as well | Aug 26 19:36 |
| _Goblin | ooh Mandriva | Aug 26 19:36 |
| _Goblin | nope...not for me....bad experience | Aug 26 19:36 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: its good for me, but | Aug 26 19:36 |
| _Goblin | the only distro which I couldn't be bothered to bug chase. | Aug 26 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I have keyboard issues here | Aug 26 19:36 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I don't like how | Aug 26 19:36 |
| schestowitz | And twitter is still messed up at API level, like yesterday | Aug 26 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Maybe overloaded | Aug 26 19:37 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I tell it to use English as the language, and it still gives me American | Aug 26 19:37 |
| Jookia | schestowitz: OpenOffice is bigger than Linux? | Aug 26 19:37 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: American is another option | Aug 26 19:37 |
| _Goblin | Im fast becoming a Sabayon advocate...Ive been so impressed. | Aug 26 19:37 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: seems the language options don't work properly, but I can get rid of the en-us in the FIrefox user agent string myself, so whatever :D | Aug 26 19:37 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: let's not spread American English around the web :D | Aug 26 19:38 |
| sebsebseb | British English is the proper oen | Aug 26 19:38 |
| sebsebseb | one | Aug 26 19:38 |
| Jookia | Australian English is better. | Aug 26 19:38 |
| MinceR | whoa, novatech indeed has the "no os" option | Aug 26 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: Your from Australlia? | Aug 26 19:39 |
| Jookia | Yes. | Aug 26 19:39 |
| Jookia | I have insomnia. | Aug 26 19:39 |
| Jookia | :P | Aug 26 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: I don't know about Australlian English, but its probably better than American | Aug 26 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | I did talk to someone from there company quite a bit yesterday online | Aug 26 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | they tried to sell me Window 7, but didn't do a proper job of that :D | Aug 26 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | and they didn't know much about Linux, but seemed to know something | Aug 26 19:40 |
| Jookia | I would've bought Windows 7. | Aug 26 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: well | Aug 26 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | it can come with the lap top pre installed | Aug 26 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | on a stupid recovery partition for like £80 | Aug 26 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | or | Aug 26 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | for about £80 can buy it seperatly and have the DVD | Aug 26 19:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @jzb: RT @OgMaciel New blog post: Running On Empty http://bit.ly/aKupY6 [Anyone involved in FOSS: Must read post.] Me: Agreed. | Aug 26 19:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Follow Up On Solar Neutrinos and Radioactive Decay http://bit.ly/9eXjbX | Aug 26 19:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Dending from the dent(ists) chair sounds easy enough 140 chars of ARGH | Aug 26 19:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @jlouderb: http://twitpic.com/2ie190 - Hanging with my pal @mmrothenberg at TheLadders. The conference rooms are named after Dead songs | Aug 26 19:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Kaspersky is paying bloggers tio generate "content" for its site and right now they troll Linux. Kaspersky, you #fail | Aug 26 19:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Wi-Fi Convenient, but Dangerous http://is.gd/eFia4 How safe is your Wi-Fi? Not safe enough. I broke 28 of 40 corporate networks. | Aug 26 19:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Looking forward to the Ubuntu Global Jam tomorrow in Berkeley - http://is.gd/eDRnS - join us! #ubuntu #locoteams #ugl | Aug 26 19:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Running On Empty « Journal of an Open Sourcee .::. Size~: 34.57 KB | Aug 26 19:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Cherie Blair running interference with #Iran op-eds in Guardian. Scrupulously not mentioning the #war planned by husband's backers. | Aug 26 19:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] How to get rid off controversy http://bit.ly/aU5Nu8 #ooxml | Aug 26 19:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Science Story | Follow Up On Solar Neutrinos and Radioactive Decay .::. Size~: 80.54 KB | Aug 26 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hanging with my pal @mmrothenberg at TheLadders. The conferen... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 9.91 KB | Aug 26 19:40 |
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| sebsebseb | so it was recommended that I buy it seperatly, if going to get it | Aug 26 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu California - Rockridge Jam .::. Size~: 8.77 KB | Aug 26 19:40 |
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| Jookia | sebsebseb: Buy it seperately if you have the money. | Aug 26 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: I haven't used Windows 7 properly, in fact my useage of it, hardly counts really | Aug 26 19:41 |
| Jookia | Along with a video camera, handcuffs, a tree and a truck | Aug 26 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | I thought about maybe buying pre installed on a lap top, so I can try to, but | Aug 26 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | thing is | Aug 26 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | I don't want my brother to use Windows really :) | Aug 26 19:41 |
| Jookia | Then handcuff the CD by the little hole in the middle to the back of your truck's trailer hitch. | Aug 26 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | and he doesn't want to game on there | Aug 26 19:41 |
| Jookia | Then handcuff the other end to the tree. | Aug 26 19:41 |
| Jookia | Then drive. | Aug 26 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | its like web browser, and an office suite, and thats about all he wants really | Aug 26 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: I don't have a truck | Aug 26 19:42 |
| Jookia | Well some kind of pulley thing. | Aug 26 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | and ok good your saying stuff like that | Aug 26 19:42 |
| Jookia | Torture the CD. | Aug 26 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | I thought you actsaully liked WIndows 7 | Aug 26 19:42 |
| Jookia | I have Windows 7 installed but I don't use it. | Aug 26 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | if I give him Windows 7 on the lap top | Aug 26 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | he will probably use that quite a bit uh | Aug 26 19:42 |
| Jookia | I'm not saying use it | Aug 26 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | even if its dual booting with Mandriva | Aug 26 19:43 |
| Jookia | I'm just saying to get the CD, do something screwed up to it, post a video of what you did on YouTube | Aug 26 19:43 |
| Jookia | and watch the fanboys cry. | Aug 26 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: any problems with that Novatech lap top, and can send it back I guess in 30 days or something? | Aug 26 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: heh I guess | Aug 26 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | apparantly Novatech is pretty good schestowitz recommended it to me, but someone else said they are good as well, and told me he has bought quite a lot from them | Aug 26 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | that was after I told him I was thinking about buying that lap top | Aug 26 19:44 |
| Jookia | laptop is one word. :P | Aug 26 19:44 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: Im not sure of the laws in your country.... | Aug 26 19:44 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: there's plenty of scope in the UK though... | Aug 26 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: Why are you mentioning laws? | Aug 26 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: oh the 30 day send back? | Aug 26 19:45 |
| Jookia | Have you tried to send a CD back? | Aug 26 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and I think you are sure about the laws in my country, because we live in the same country, plus you know | Aug 26 19:46 |
| Jookia | sebsebseb: Buy the CD. | Aug 26 19:46 |
| Jookia | Then try and get a refund like the EULA says. | Aug 26 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: I think _Goblin is doing something like that at the moment | Aug 26 19:47 |
| Jookia | Yeah. | Aug 26 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | getting a refund from Acer since he hadn't used Windows 7 | Aug 26 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | well god luck to him! | Aug 26 19:47 |
| Jookia | I dunno, I need to grow faster so I can do stuff like this. | Aug 26 19:47 |
| Jookia | I'm sure Microsoft will be around in 3 or so years. | Aug 26 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | no not luck from God if he exists, as the above typeo basically says | Aug 26 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | I meant to put good | Aug 26 19:47 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd love to see a law passed that MS had to pay a refund to every windows user they oculdnt prove actually chose windows on their PC when they bought it, which would mean having a choice and selecting the one with windows | Aug 26 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: sounds good to me | Aug 26 19:48 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: sorry....I thought you were from India......I talk to so many people.....appologies my mistake! | Aug 26 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | and really thats how OEM's should do it | Aug 26 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | like Novatech is doing it | Aug 26 19:48 |
| ThistleWeb | where it's up to MS to prove the customer wanted it | Aug 26 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | naked PC, or Windows | Aug 26 19:48 |
| Jookia | ThistleWeb: They'd go bankrupt in a week! | Aug 26 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | or even better a Linux distro pre installed | Aug 26 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | ,but having the naked pc option and no Linux distro pre installed option, is pretty sweet | Aug 26 19:48 |
| ThistleWeb | since they like to pretend their popular because people love them, let them prove it | Aug 26 19:49 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: well yeah | Aug 26 19:49 |
| sebsebseb | people buy WIndows since | Aug 26 19:49 |
| sebsebseb | it became pre installed thats the main reason | Aug 26 19:50 |
| Jookia | "Ssh: a lot easier to use printer on ubuntu :3" | Aug 26 19:50 |
| sebsebseb | plus thats what they know | Aug 26 19:50 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yeah Internet is great | Aug 26 19:51 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: really brings the word together | Aug 26 19:51 |
| sebsebseb | it can also however be dangerous as times | Aug 26 19:51 |
| Jookia | I dunno, I'm waiting for some kind of thing to happen. | Aug 26 19:51 |
| Jookia | Where a revolution happens. | Aug 26 19:51 |
| Jookia | The downfall about GNU/Linux is that our software is mostly cross-platform. | Aug 26 19:52 |
| Jookia | So Windows users don't worry about it. | Aug 26 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: yeah I think I agree really | Aug 26 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | we need something | Aug 26 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | that is really great and Linux only | Aug 26 19:52 |
| Jookia | I'm not saying that we shouldn't port stuff to Windows | Aug 26 19:52 |
| Jookia | That's evil | Aug 26 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | and I mean proper Linux only | Aug 26 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | so | Aug 26 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | can't run it in | Aug 26 19:52 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Facebook Sues Teachbook Over Trademark Concerns; Where's Legalbook? http://dlvr.it/4J1cV | Aug 26 19:52 | |
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| sebsebseb | apps that made Linux apps run on Windows | Aug 26 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | I don't mean virtual machines, I mean something else | Aug 26 19:53 |
| Jookia | Nah, that's not it. | Aug 26 19:53 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: I think browsers and office suite port to Windows yep | Aug 26 19:53 |
| Jookia | Ubuntu has the social network thing in GNOME. | Aug 26 19:53 |
| Jookia | It's all about the integration to the OS. | Aug 26 19:53 |
| Jookia | GNOME being the 'OS' to the user's eyes. | Aug 26 19:53 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: the social networking in 10.04 is quite sucky really, atlough to be fair I didn't exactly try it properly, well I never tried with an account | Aug 26 19:54 |
| _Goblin | I think though that things like Firefox are ways to introduce Windows users to FOSS and ultimately Linux et al when they realize a non-microsoft solution is far better. | Aug 26 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | however when its flashing for attention on the top panel, that really can annoy people | Aug 26 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | there have been people in #ubuntu | Aug 26 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | who wanted to remove it as a result, or already have done so | Aug 26 19:54 |
| Jookia | It's a new thing and it requires tweaking. | Aug 26 19:54 |
| Jookia | They'll get it fixed sooner or later. | Aug 26 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: and Plymouth is new for Ubuntu as well, other distros had for quite a while though | Aug 26 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | Plymouth will be a bit more fixed in 10.10 I guess | Aug 26 19:55 |
| sebsebseb | right issues with 10.04 for a lot of people | Aug 26 19:55 |
| Jookia | I've actually heard some people say that GNU/Linux needs to be in the market, sold and stuff. | Aug 26 19:55 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Legal Threat Demands Techdirt Shut Down http://bit.ly/9iyBM7 | Aug 26 19:55 | |
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| sebsebseb | Jookia: well Xandros was sold for example, and Linspire | Aug 26 19:56 |
| Jookia | Nobody understands that GNU/Linux isn't competing against Windows. | Aug 26 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | and you can buy Mandriva Powerpack if you want | Aug 26 19:56 |
| Jookia | It's just another OS. | Aug 26 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: well yes most Linux distros aren't really made to compete against Windows | Aug 26 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | they are meant to be Unix alternatives | Aug 26 19:56 |
| Jookia | Yeah | Aug 26 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | however distros such as Ubuntu | Aug 26 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | are indeed about competing agaisnt Windows | Aug 26 19:56 |
| Jookia | But the fact that it's at the level where-- yeah | Aug 26 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | and much more so, than being a Unix alternative, really | Aug 26 19:57 |
| sebsebseb | in fact Ubuntu woudn't have existed in the first place I guess, if it wasn't going to try and compete agaisnt Windows and Mac OS X | Aug 26 19:57 |
| sebsebseb | and make Canonical money | Aug 26 19:57 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: it depends what you mean by compete...I would assume they all want to serve the needs of their users....I think Linux does it with actual working software, Microsoft tries to convince you its working with flashy icons and lipstick | Aug 26 19:57 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: compete as in gain market share | Aug 26 19:57 |
| sebsebseb | gain users | Aug 26 19:57 |
| Jookia | There's no competition. | Aug 26 19:57 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: convert a load of Windows and Mac OS X users, over to Ubuntu | Aug 26 19:58 |
| sebsebseb | solve their bug 1 | Aug 26 19:58 |
| Jookia | There's just a monopoly. | Aug 26 19:58 |
| sebsebseb | http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 | Aug 26 19:59 |
| Jookia | If the monopoly broke. | Aug 26 19:59 |
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| Jookia | LOL | Aug 26 19:59 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: What you haven't seen that before? | Aug 26 19:59 |
| Jookia | No, I haven't. | Aug 26 19:59 |
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| Jookia | I dunno man. | Aug 26 20:00 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: as for the Linux is not meant to be really much like Windows stuff, well sure, check this out, if you haven't already, nice long read. http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm | Aug 26 20:01 |
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| sebsebseb | Jookia: anwyay we have two types of distro | Aug 26 20:01 |
| sebsebseb | the commercial distros, and the community distros | Aug 26 20:01 |
| sebsebseb | the commecial distros are about making money, Ubuntu is a good example of that | Aug 26 20:01 |
| sebsebseb | they have a commercial sponser behind them a company yep | Aug 26 20:02 |
| MinceR | sometimes it's worse than just making money | Aug 26 20:02 |
| Jookia | sebsebseb: I've read that, excellent read. | Aug 26 20:02 |
| MinceR | see the various editions of m$ linux | Aug 26 20:02 |
| Jookia | I started using Linux back in 2005ish. | Aug 26 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | a community distro has a community of programmers behind it. They exist, because of donations, Debian and PC Linux OS, are community distros | Aug 26 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | really Fedora and OpenSuse are community distros as well though, but Fedora helps Redhat Enterprise Linux here and there, and OpenSuse will help Novell Enterprise Suse Linux here and there. | Aug 26 20:03 |
| Jookia | I have a question about Red hat | Aug 26 20:03 |
| Jookia | What evil has it committed? | Aug 26 20:03 |
| cubevector | darkstar and Yggdrasil early on | Aug 26 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah obviously Fedora gets funding from Redhat, and OpenSuse from Novell | Aug 26 20:03 |
| cubevector | I think darkstar might still be around | Aug 26 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | and the commercial distros tend to want to win quite a lot of Windows and Mac OS X users | Aug 26 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | over | Aug 26 20:04 |
| Jookia | I started with Ubuntu | Aug 26 20:04 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | Aug 26 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | where as Debian I don't think so, and PC Linux OS, wants to compete agaisnt Ubuntu :) | Aug 26 20:04 |
| ThistleWeb | <sebsebseb> over << lobin the CB stuff | Aug 26 20:04 |
| ThistleWeb | over | Aug 26 20:04 |
| cubevector | darkstar in 1994 was my first Linux | Aug 26 20:04 |
| Jookia | Red Hat seems to be non-evil. | Aug 26 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: What? | Aug 26 20:04 |
| Jookia | I wasn't even born in 1994. | Aug 26 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: I started with Fedora Core 2 in 2004 :) | Aug 26 20:05 |
| ThistleWeb | CB talk, where ya had to end each sentence with "over" or "over and out" so the other person could talk | Aug 26 20:05 |
| cubevector | youngsters ;-) | Aug 26 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | however I had no Internet, since my Dad woudn't hardwire my bed room, and I coudn't get that stupid wireless device working I had instead, since I was newbie | Aug 26 20:05 |
| Jookia | Fedora Core 2? | Aug 26 20:05 |
| ThistleWeb | think US cops from old TV shows | Aug 26 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: CB talk what? | Aug 26 20:05 |
| cubevector | I'm still running fc1 | Aug 26 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: oh you mean make it more clear, where I am ending? | Aug 26 20:06 |
| Jookia | ... | Aug 26 20:06 |
| ThistleWeb | it was a joke, dont worry about it | Aug 26 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: since I tend to type on more than one line? | Aug 26 20:06 |
| Jookia | Why uh.. Why not upgrade from FC1? | Aug 26 20:06 |
| cubevector | not using it at the moment | Aug 26 20:06 |
| cubevector | main reason: Loki and older LGP games | Aug 26 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: when I started with Desktop Linux, Fedora Core 2 wa the latest Fedora | Aug 26 20:06 |
| Jookia | Ah. | Aug 26 20:06 |
| cubevector | plus it does what I want already | Aug 26 20:06 |
| Jookia | sebsebseb: I was talking to cubevector. | Aug 26 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: so yep a bit before Ubuntu came along | Aug 26 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: as for cubevector | Aug 26 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | he likes using old Fedora | Aug 26 20:07 |
| cubevector | and 2.2 Linux too | Aug 26 20:07 |
| sebsebseb | sometimes older versions of distros, are quite a lot better than newer versiosn | Aug 26 20:07 |
| cubevector | not just old Fedora | Aug 26 20:07 |
| Jookia | Fedora Core 5 included Mono | Aug 26 20:07 |
| cubevector | I'm pre-Mono | Aug 26 20:07 |
| sebsebseb | and sometimes older Desktop Environments are quite a lot better really, yep I am on about KDE 3 here :) | Aug 26 20:07 |
| cubevector | exactly so | Aug 26 20:07 |
| sebsebseb | exactly so to what? | Aug 26 20:08 |
| cubevector | that's why I switched to vector on my "newer" computer | Aug 26 20:08 |
| cubevector | to run KDE 3.5.10 | Aug 26 20:08 |
| Jookia | Ah | Aug 26 20:08 |
| Jookia | I don't use KDE | Aug 26 20:09 |
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| Jookia | I've actually become so disconnected from the actual DE that now I just use OpenBox, Tint2 and tunar. | Aug 26 20:09 |
| Jookia | thunar* | Aug 26 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: VectorLinux uses KDE 4 now by default I thought? | Aug 26 20:09 |
| cubevector | this is Vector 6 classic :) | Aug 26 20:10 |
| cubevector | yeah there's several versions | Aug 26 20:10 |
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| sebsebseb | and Grub 2 :( | Aug 26 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | Grub :) | Aug 26 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | and GDM 2 :( | Aug 26 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | old one :) | Aug 26 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah newer really isn't always better | Aug 26 20:10 |
| Jookia | Well | Aug 26 20:11 |
| Jookia | You still update your packages right? | Aug 26 20:11 |
| cubevector | look at Xerox Star videos on youtube sometime | Aug 26 20:11 |
| sebsebseb | whats that? | Aug 26 20:11 |
| cubevector | and you'll see what Xerox was doing in 1981 | Aug 26 20:11 |
| sebsebseb | oh Xerox | Aug 26 20:11 |
| sebsebseb | yeah | Aug 26 20:11 |
| sebsebseb | what Apple got their ideas from | Aug 26 20:11 |
| cubevector | sebsebseb, the one everybody copied | Aug 26 20:11 |
| sebsebseb | yeah and people think Ubuntu is copying Mac OS X | Aug 26 20:12 |
| sebsebseb | with the buttons on the left | Aug 26 20:12 |
| MinceR | and it is | Aug 26 20:12 |
| cubevector | Jookia, on fc1 the only way to update stuff is ./configure ; make all; make install | Aug 26 20:12 |
| Jookia | Hahaha. | Aug 26 20:12 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Xerox didn't have them on the left? | Aug 26 20:12 |
| cubevector | no one supports fc1 now | Aug 26 20:12 |
| MinceR | they even hired a crApple cultist as COO | Aug 26 20:12 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: dunno | Aug 26 20:12 |
| Jookia | I see why package managers were invented. | Aug 26 20:12 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: but i doubt that the canonical guys know the Xerox Star system very well. | Aug 26 20:12 |
| cubevector | use the source luke | Aug 26 20:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav @x11r5 Watch your language !bot boy. I am going to wash your mouth out with WD-40 | Aug 26 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Stallman at Hell: #Gnu #Linux #BSD http://twitpic.com/2ie5jo :-) /by @ksaver via @webmaven | Aug 26 20:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Stallman at Hell: #Gnu #Linux #BSD on Twitpic .::. Size~: 9.62 KB | Aug 26 20:13 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah your on about Matt Assy or whatever hes called? Whats C00 mean again? Cheif Operating Systme Officor? | Aug 26 20:13 |
| sebsebseb | I was thinking about the buttons last night or ealirer or whatever again | Aug 26 20:13 |
| sebsebseb | thinking why | Aug 26 20:13 |
| sebsebseb | well why can't Ubuntu do them on the left? | Aug 26 20:13 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: yes, Mac Asay | Aug 26 20:13 |
| sebsebseb | Why should it only be Apple? | Aug 26 20:13 |
| Jookia | Too bad Apple didn't patent it. | Aug 26 20:13 |
| sebsebseb | and how certain users, will prefer on the left, because its less like Windows | Aug 26 20:13 |
| MinceR | Chief Operati{ng,ons} Officer | Aug 26 20:14 |
| MinceR | and yes, Xerox had them on the left side, but below the window caption and in text form, apparently | Aug 26 20:14 |
| sebsebseb | as for the Gnome patching they done, I am not really keen on any of it, but | Aug 26 20:14 |
| MinceR | (also, i suspect that's the same as the menu/toolbar thing) | Aug 26 20:14 |
| sebsebseb | well they got to do something | Aug 26 20:14 |
| sebsebseb | if Ubuntu was very much so like other distros, they would lose more users? | Aug 26 20:14 |
| MinceR | in GlobalView they switched to putting window controls on the right. | Aug 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | http://toastytech.com/guis/indexxerox.html | Aug 26 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Xerox .::. Size~: 5.14 KB | Aug 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | hm, it isn't so simple | Aug 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | globalview for X has some button on the left | Aug 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | (i'm guessing it's a menu) | Aug 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | anyway, best look at the gallery yourself :) | Aug 26 20:15 |
| cubevector | I think win95 might have had tabs and the bottom first | Aug 26 20:15 |
| cubevector | tabs at the bottom | Aug 26 20:16 |
| MinceR | dialog tabs? | Aug 26 20:16 |
| schestowitz | [19:34] <MinceR> that novatech page pimps m$ crap so much it isn't even funny | Aug 26 20:16 |
| schestowitz | That's their revenue source | Aug 26 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Fake recommendations | Aug 26 20:16 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Fkea recommendations? | Aug 26 20:17 |
| cubevector | if you look at early X it was pretty sparse: | Aug 26 20:17 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah they got to make Windows seem good to make most of their profit | Aug 26 20:17 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Aug 26 20:17 |
| sebsebseb | its good they sell naked PC's as well :) | Aug 26 20:17 |
| cubevector | http://maxhost.org/other/X-Window-System.png | Aug 26 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 20:17 |
| schestowitz | <p align="center"> | Aug 26 20:17 |
| schestowitz | <a href="http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Conficker-AGAIN-Affirmative.jpg"><img src="http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Conficker-AGAIN-Affirmative.jpg" alt="Conficker AGAIN - Affirmative" title="Conficker AGAIN - Affirmative" width="300" height="421" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37585" /></a> | Aug 26 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | </p> | Aug 26 20:17 |
| schestowitz | <em><b>Summary</b>: Why the Spanair crash should serve as a warning to the world's biggest aviation establishments, which still use Windows in parts of their infrastructure</em> | Aug 26 20:17 |
| schestowitz | <p class="dropcap-first"><a name="top">T</a>HE United States Federal Aviation Administration handles many domestic and international flights, not all of which reach their destination. Due to past failures at the FAA we wrote about the FAA's reliance on Windows [[cref 6626 1], [cref 4454 2], [cref 22413 3]] and suggested abandoning it. Now there is compelling proof that Windows can cause flights to crash (or fail to prevent crashes due | Aug 26 20:17 |
| schestowitz | to malware). For those who don't know, Spanair is a Microsoft shop (their Web site, actual operations, among more things) and their crash was caused by malware, which impeded the regular procedures that would otherwise have aborted or delayed takeoff [[cref 37194 1], [cref 37369 2], [cref 37431 3], [cref 37455 4]].</p> | Aug 26 20:17 |
| schestowitz | "Who dares using Windows in a critical environment?" | Aug 26 20:17 |
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| Jookia | Ladies and gentlemen, that was Schestowitz! | Aug 26 20:18 |
| *Jookia applaudes. | Aug 26 20:18 | |
| cubevector | what's with the html :) | Aug 26 20:18 |
| -NickServ-schestowitz has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Aug 26 20:18 | |
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| MinceR | probably a mispaste. | Aug 26 20:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: congratulatons you spammed your own channel | Aug 26 20:18 |
| schestowitz | my bad | Aug 26 20:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and missed their responses | Aug 26 20:18 |
| Jookia | Why do they even put Windows on space shuttles? | Aug 26 20:19 |
| sebsebseb | spammed I mean flooded | Aug 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: What I was gonna paste is not my next post | Aug 26 20:19 |
| Jookia | schestowitz: I didn't say it was.. | Aug 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz | But to say gnu is also bigger than Linux | Aug 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Lines of code | Aug 26 20:19 |
| cubevector | this is what I meant by tabs at the bottom: | Aug 26 20:19 |
| cubevector | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Am_windows95_desktop.png | Aug 26 20:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: File:Am windows95 desktop.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 40.22 KB | Aug 26 20:19 |
| MinceR | if you're using irssi, /server purge also aborts big pastes | Aug 26 20:19 |
| Jookia | How come that PNG works? | Aug 26 20:19 |
| MinceR | afaik | Aug 26 20:20 |
| sebsebseb | Right going away from computer for a bit | Aug 26 20:20 |
| sebsebseb | back a bit later | Aug 26 20:20 |
| Jookia | cubevector: Where are the bottom tabs? | Aug 26 20:20 |
| MinceR | cubevector: oh, the taskbar | Aug 26 20:20 |
| cubevector | File: | Aug 26 20:20 |
| cubevector | yes | Aug 26 20:20 |
| MinceR | cubevector: i think RISC OS had a similar panel earlier | Aug 26 20:20 |
| Jookia | I don't really see what you mean. | Aug 26 20:20 |
| MinceR | but if a similar area that can only hold iconized windows then even winblows 1.x qualifies | Aug 26 20:20 |
| MinceR | s/then/qualifies &/ | Aug 26 20:21 |
| MinceR | cubevector: i mean Arthur, the precursor to RISC OS | Aug 26 20:21 |
| cubevector | ok, let's see a pic of RISC OS | Aug 26 20:21 |
| cubevector | oh ok | Aug 26 20:21 |
| cubevector | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Am_windows95_desktop.png | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| MinceR | but of course RISC OS inherited that from Arthur | Aug 26 20:21 |
| cubevector | see? No File: in that URL | Aug 26 20:21 |
| MinceR | (RISC OS also had the best place to put the main menus ever) | Aug 26 20:22 |
| cubevector | ok, so who had the first taskbar I guess is the question | Aug 26 20:22 |
| MinceR | i think Arthur, but i'm not sure. | Aug 26 20:22 |
| cubevector | http://mobile.osnews.com/img/18941/arthur.gif | Aug 26 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 20:23 |
| cubevector | found a picture of Arthur | Aug 26 20:23 |
| MinceR | http://toastytech.com/guis/guitimeline2.html | Aug 26 20:23 |
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| Jookia | Ah, the things at top. | Aug 26 20:24 |
| Jookia | I thought that was a Mac OS X thing | Aug 26 20:24 |
| MinceR | the question is whether you consider the bottom area of winblows 1.x a "taskbar" or not | Aug 26 20:24 |
| Jookia | I forgot Amiga existed | Aug 26 20:24 |
| cubevector | Iconbar in Arthur-speak | Aug 26 20:24 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't, since it isn't useful for switching between non-minimized windows. | Aug 26 20:24 |
| cubevector | yeah Jookia, Amiga sort of died before you were born | Aug 26 20:24 |
| Jookia | Heheh. | Aug 26 20:25 |
| Jookia | I want an Amiga workbench theme for my computer. | Aug 26 20:25 |
| Jookia | The yellow and blue. :3 | Aug 26 20:25 |
| MinceR | such things probably exist | Aug 26 20:25 |
| cubevector | now I'd like to see some SunOS pics | Aug 26 20:25 |
| Jookia | Someone should just do a YouTube video series of every single OS | Aug 26 20:26 |
| cubevector | seems Sun isn't included on that page | Aug 26 20:26 |
| MinceR | it's focused on GUIs | Aug 26 20:26 |
| Jookia | http://toastytech.com/guis/thumbalto1.gif | Aug 26 20:27 |
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| MinceR | http://toastytech.com/guis/indexunix.html | Aug 26 20:27 |
| Jookia | Dear god that looks scary. | Aug 26 20:27 |
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| MinceR | there are some sunos pics here | Aug 26 20:27 |
| Jookia | It may just be me, but that photo terrifies me. | Aug 26 20:27 |
| MinceR | they did have their own gui after all :) | Aug 26 20:27 |
| MinceR | Jookia: perhaps the portrait oriented monitor? | Aug 26 20:27 |
| Jookia | Could be that, could be that it's black and white, could be both | Aug 26 20:28 |
| cubevector | yeah found one for early Sun: | Aug 26 20:28 |
| cubevector | http://toastytech.com/guis/sv35iconmail.png | Aug 26 20:28 |
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| Jookia | It looks like something from an old horror film, maybe | Aug 26 20:28 |
| Jookia | That could be it. | Aug 26 20:28 |
| Jookia | Maybe it's because it's black and white, before I was born and a portrait monitor. | Aug 26 20:28 |
| cubevector | way before :) | Aug 26 20:28 |
| cubevector | there should be jacob's ladder's and tesla coils in the background :) | Aug 26 20:29 |
| Jookia | HA | Aug 26 20:29 |
| Jookia | http://toastytech.com/guis/thumbperq.gif That looks less scary. | Aug 26 20:29 |
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| Jookia | I think it's my fear of CRT screens, actually. | Aug 26 20:30 |
| cubevector | colour makes a big difference | Aug 26 20:30 |
| Jookia | CRT screens make me scared. :( | Aug 26 20:30 |
| Jookia | Anybody else have the fear of them? | Aug 26 20:31 |
| gnufreex | Scared of CRT? | Aug 26 20:31 |
| Jookia | That they'll just explode from inside and the glass will smash out? | Aug 26 20:31 |
| Jookia | Like at the end of Videodrome? :P | Aug 26 20:32 |
| gnufreex | No... until now. | Aug 26 20:32 |
| gnufreex | You got me scared now. | Aug 26 20:32 |
| Jookia | Woops. | Aug 26 20:32 |
| gnufreex | Lol | Aug 26 20:32 |
| gnufreex | I am kidding | Aug 26 20:32 |
| Jookia | Hehe | Aug 26 20:32 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and #NASA Should Remove Windows, Adopt #GNU #Linux After #Spanair Findings http://ur1.ca/1a6ac | Aug 26 20:32 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Sometimes I just want to copy someone else's statutes, word for word, and see if they notice. | Aug 26 20:32 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z @qu1j0t3 #Capitalism != rape everyone and everything for profit. //theoretically maybe, but quote does describe *how it is practised* | Aug 26 20:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and NASA Should Remove Windows, Adopt GNU/Linux After Spanair Findings | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.35 KB | Aug 26 20:32 |
| gnufreex | I have only one CRT... out of 3 computers in house | Aug 26 20:33 |
| gnufreex | It is bad for eyes. | Aug 26 20:33 |
| cubevector | my 17 year old CRT still works fine | Aug 26 20:33 |
| Jookia | My brother has one of those giant CRT screens | Aug 26 20:33 |
| Jookia | It scares the shit out of me when I enter the room. | Aug 26 20:33 |
| Jookia | I just kinda duck behind something. | Aug 26 20:33 |
| cubevector | I've used CRT's since the early 70's and never had one explode | Aug 26 20:34 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Making Ubuntu Look Like Windows 7 http://bit.ly/aUlYVP | Aug 26 20:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Biometrics Vulnerabilities & Exploits #NOUID #UID http://www.scribd.com/doc/36471798/delhi-20100825-100825103630-phpapp01 | Aug 26 20:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Linux Story | Making Ubuntu Look Like Windows 7 .::. Size~: 49.54 KB | Aug 26 20:34 |
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| Jookia | Yeah but still | Aug 26 20:35 |
| Jookia | I'm really afraid of heights too, I'm sure I have some weird childhood trauma | Aug 26 20:35 |
| schestowitz_log | everyone is afraid of heights | Aug 26 20:36 |
| Jookia | Some people aren't. | Aug 26 20:36 |
| schestowitz | wrong window | Aug 26 20:36 |
| Jookia | I know it's an instinct. | Aug 26 20:36 |
| Jookia | But some people just aren't. | Aug 26 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Those who are not will win Darwin award | Aug 26 20:36 |
| Jookia | HAHA | Aug 26 20:36 |
| schestowitz | But too much fear/pain is not good, either | Aug 26 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Adventure taking is needed sometimes | Aug 26 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Right balance is key | Aug 26 20:36 |
| Jookia | Yeah. | Aug 26 20:37 |
| Jookia | I have a horrible sense of balance. | Aug 26 20:37 |
| schestowitz | pain is a defence mechanism, fear included (mental pain) | Aug 26 20:37 |
| schestowitz | People who don't feel pain get back pain | Aug 26 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Or lose their noses | Aug 26 20:37 |
| schestowitz | That's the typical thing among lepers | Aug 26 20:37 |
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| cubevector | awww, no arrrrrgghhhh? | Aug 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | http://twitpic.com/2ie5jo | Aug 26 20:38 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 26 20:38 |
| Jookia | Ugh, I went to the darwin awards site and saw this | Aug 26 20:38 |
| Jookia | ""a man had to be cut from a steel pipe by seven firefighters when he managed to get his penis stuck in it. There is still no explanation of how this occurred, though the article did say he could not be removed from the pipe at first because his constricted blood-flow made him aroused." | Aug 26 20:38 |
| Jookia | I don't get that. | Aug 26 20:39 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Good to see discussions of cost savings from using ODF http://bit.ly/aoIjbP | Aug 26 20:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 98.06 KB | Aug 26 20:39 |
| Jookia | £51m more for the pockets of the council then, eh? | Aug 26 20:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source http://gu.com/p/2j9m3/tw | Aug 26 20:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 98 KB | Aug 26 20:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Great one-shot packaging guide by Mackenzie - http://is.gd/eFpMG #ubuntu | Aug 26 20:41 | |
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| schestowitz | my bad | Aug 26 15:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and missed their responses | Aug 26 15:18 |
| Jookia | Why do they even put Windows on space shuttles? | Aug 26 15:18 |
| sebsebseb | spammed I mean flooded | Aug 26 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Jookia: What I was gonna paste is not my next post | Aug 26 15:18 |
| Jookia | schestowitz: I didn't say it was.. | Aug 26 15:18 |
| schestowitz | But to say gnu is also bigger than Linux | Aug 26 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Lines of code | Aug 26 15:18 |
| cubevector | this is what I meant by tabs at the bottom: | Aug 26 15:19 |
| cubevector | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Am_windows95_desktop.png | Aug 26 15:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: File:Am windows95 desktop.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 40.22 KB | Aug 26 15:19 |
| MinceR | if you're using irssi, /server purge also aborts big pastes | Aug 26 15:19 |
| Jookia | How come that PNG works? | Aug 26 15:19 |
| MinceR | afaik | Aug 26 15:19 |
| sebsebseb | Right going away from computer for a bit | Aug 26 15:19 |
| sebsebseb | back a bit later | Aug 26 15:19 |
| Jookia | cubevector: Where are the bottom tabs? | Aug 26 15:19 |
| MinceR | cubevector: oh, the taskbar | Aug 26 15:19 |
| cubevector | File: | Aug 26 15:19 |
| cubevector | yes | Aug 26 15:19 |
| MinceR | cubevector: i think RISC OS had a similar panel earlier | Aug 26 15:19 |
| Jookia | I don't really see what you mean. | Aug 26 15:19 |
| MinceR | but if a similar area that can only hold iconized windows then even winblows 1.x qualifies | Aug 26 15:20 |
| MinceR | s/then/qualifies &/ | Aug 26 15:20 |
| MinceR | cubevector: i mean Arthur, the precursor to RISC OS | Aug 26 15:20 |
| cubevector | ok, let's see a pic of RISC OS | Aug 26 15:20 |
| cubevector | oh ok | Aug 26 15:20 |
| cubevector | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Am_windows95_desktop.png | Aug 26 15:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 15:20 |
| MinceR | but of course RISC OS inherited that from Arthur | Aug 26 15:21 |
| cubevector | see? No File: in that URL | Aug 26 15:21 |
| MinceR | (RISC OS also had the best place to put the main menus ever) | Aug 26 15:21 |
| cubevector | ok, so who had the first taskbar I guess is the question | Aug 26 15:22 |
| MinceR | i think Arthur, but i'm not sure. | Aug 26 15:22 |
| cubevector | http://mobile.osnews.com/img/18941/arthur.gif | Aug 26 15:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 15:22 |
| cubevector | found a picture of Arthur | Aug 26 15:23 |
| MinceR | http://toastytech.com/guis/guitimeline2.html | Aug 26 15:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Graphical User Interface Timeline .::. Size~: 9.59 KB | Aug 26 15:23 |
| Jookia | Ah, the things at top. | Aug 26 15:23 |
| Jookia | I thought that was a Mac OS X thing | Aug 26 15:23 |
| MinceR | the question is whether you consider the bottom area of winblows 1.x a "taskbar" or not | Aug 26 15:23 |
| Jookia | I forgot Amiga existed | Aug 26 15:24 |
| cubevector | Iconbar in Arthur-speak | Aug 26 15:24 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't, since it isn't useful for switching between non-minimized windows. | Aug 26 15:24 |
| cubevector | yeah Jookia, Amiga sort of died before you were born | Aug 26 15:24 |
| Jookia | Heheh. | Aug 26 15:24 |
| Jookia | I want an Amiga workbench theme for my computer. | Aug 26 15:24 |
| Jookia | The yellow and blue. :3 | Aug 26 15:24 |
| MinceR | such things probably exist | Aug 26 15:24 |
| cubevector | now I'd like to see some SunOS pics | Aug 26 15:25 |
| Jookia | Someone should just do a YouTube video series of every single OS | Aug 26 15:25 |
| cubevector | seems Sun isn't included on that page | Aug 26 15:25 |
| MinceR | it's focused on GUIs | Aug 26 15:26 |
| Jookia | http://toastytech.com/guis/thumbalto1.gif | Aug 26 15:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 15:26 |
| MinceR | http://toastytech.com/guis/indexunix.html | Aug 26 15:26 |
| Jookia | Dear god that looks scary. | Aug 26 15:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux / Unix .::. Size~: 6.49 KB | Aug 26 15:26 |
| MinceR | there are some sunos pics here | Aug 26 15:26 |
| Jookia | It may just be me, but that photo terrifies me. | Aug 26 15:27 |
| MinceR | they did have their own gui after all :) | Aug 26 15:27 |
| MinceR | Jookia: perhaps the portrait oriented monitor? | Aug 26 15:27 |
| Jookia | Could be that, could be that it's black and white, could be both | Aug 26 15:27 |
| cubevector | yeah found one for early Sun: | Aug 26 15:27 |
| cubevector | http://toastytech.com/guis/sv35iconmail.png | Aug 26 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 15:27 |
| Jookia | It looks like something from an old horror film, maybe | Aug 26 15:27 |
| Jookia | That could be it. | Aug 26 15:27 |
| Jookia | Maybe it's because it's black and white, before I was born and a portrait monitor. | Aug 26 15:28 |
| cubevector | way before :) | Aug 26 15:28 |
| cubevector | there should be jacob's ladder's and tesla coils in the background :) | Aug 26 15:28 |
| Jookia | HA | Aug 26 15:28 |
| Jookia | http://toastytech.com/guis/thumbperq.gif That looks less scary. | Aug 26 15:29 |
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| Jookia | I think it's my fear of CRT screens, actually. | Aug 26 15:29 |
| cubevector | colour makes a big difference | Aug 26 15:29 |
| Jookia | CRT screens make me scared. :( | Aug 26 15:30 |
| Jookia | Anybody else have the fear of them? | Aug 26 15:30 |
| gnufreex | Scared of CRT? | Aug 26 15:31 |
| Jookia | That they'll just explode from inside and the glass will smash out? | Aug 26 15:31 |
| Jookia | Like at the end of Videodrome? :P | Aug 26 15:31 |
| gnufreex | No... until now. | Aug 26 15:31 |
| gnufreex | You got me scared now. | Aug 26 15:31 |
| Jookia | Woops. | Aug 26 15:31 |
| gnufreex | Lol | Aug 26 15:31 |
| gnufreex | I am kidding | Aug 26 15:32 |
| Jookia | Hehe | Aug 26 15:32 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and #NASA Should Remove Windows, Adopt #GNU #Linux After #Spanair Findings http://ur1.ca/1a6ac | Aug 26 15:32 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Sometimes I just want to copy someone else's statutes, word for word, and see if they notice. | Aug 26 15:32 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z @qu1j0t3 #Capitalism != rape everyone and everything for profit. //theoretically maybe, but quote does describe *how it is practised* | Aug 26 15:32 | |
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| gnufreex | I have only one CRT... out of 3 computers in house | Aug 26 15:32 |
| gnufreex | It is bad for eyes. | Aug 26 15:32 |
| cubevector | my 17 year old CRT still works fine | Aug 26 15:32 |
| Jookia | My brother has one of those giant CRT screens | Aug 26 15:33 |
| Jookia | It scares the shit out of me when I enter the room. | Aug 26 15:33 |
| Jookia | I just kinda duck behind something. | Aug 26 15:33 |
| cubevector | I've used CRT's since the early 70's and never had one explode | Aug 26 15:34 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Making Ubuntu Look Like Windows 7 http://bit.ly/aUlYVP | Aug 26 15:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Biometrics Vulnerabilities & Exploits #NOUID #UID http://www.scribd.com/doc/36471798/delhi-20100825-100825103630-phpapp01 | Aug 26 15:34 | |
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| Jookia | Yeah but still | Aug 26 15:34 |
| Jookia | I'm really afraid of heights too, I'm sure I have some weird childhood trauma | Aug 26 15:35 |
| schestowitz_log | everyone is afraid of heights | Aug 26 15:35 |
| Jookia | Some people aren't. | Aug 26 15:35 |
| schestowitz | wrong window | Aug 26 15:35 |
| Jookia | I know it's an instinct. | Aug 26 15:35 |
| Jookia | But some people just aren't. | Aug 26 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Those who are not will win Darwin award | Aug 26 15:35 |
| Jookia | HAHA | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | But too much fear/pain is not good, either | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Adventure taking is needed sometimes | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Right balance is key | Aug 26 15:36 |
| Jookia | Yeah. | Aug 26 15:36 |
| Jookia | I have a horrible sense of balance. | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | pain is a defence mechanism, fear included (mental pain) | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | People who don't feel pain get back pain | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Or lose their noses | Aug 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz | That's the typical thing among lepers | Aug 26 15:37 |
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| cubevector | awww, no arrrrrgghhhh? | Aug 26 15:37 |
| schestowitz | http://twitpic.com/2ie5jo | Aug 26 15:37 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 26 15:37 |
| Jookia | Ugh, I went to the darwin awards site and saw this | Aug 26 15:37 |
| Jookia | ""a man had to be cut from a steel pipe by seven firefighters when he managed to get his penis stuck in it. There is still no explanation of how this occurred, though the article did say he could not be removed from the pipe at first because his constricted blood-flow made him aroused." | Aug 26 15:37 |
| Jookia | I don't get that. | Aug 26 15:38 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Good to see discussions of cost savings from using ODF http://bit.ly/aoIjbP | Aug 26 15:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 98.06 KB | Aug 26 15:39 |
| Jookia | £51m more for the pockets of the council then, eh? | Aug 26 15:39 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source http://gu.com/p/2j9m3/tw | Aug 26 15:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 98 KB | Aug 26 15:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Great one-shot packaging guide by Mackenzie - http://is.gd/eFpMG #ubuntu | Aug 26 15:41 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[anivar] RT @BDUTT: one doesnt have to be a socialist to demand that the consent of village communities be taken before big business uproots triabls | Aug 26 15:42 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Great update from Cimi on the recent Ubuntu theme work - http://is.gd/eFq7m #ubuntu | Aug 26 15:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: Good to see discussions of cost savings from using ODF http://bit.ly/aoIjbP | Aug 26 15:47 | |
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| cubevector | never realized X windows 1 through 6 was all monochrome | Aug 26 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and #NASA Should Remove Windows, Adopt !GNU !Linux After #Spanair Findings http://ur1.ca/1a6ac | Aug 26 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Wi-Fi Convenient, but Dangerous http://is.gd/eFia4 How safe is your Wi-Fi? Not safe enough. I broke 28 of 40 corporate networks. | Aug 26 15:52 | |
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| cubevector | 1986: Apple threatens to sue Digital Research because the GEM desktop looked too much like Apple's Macintosh | Aug 26 15:53 |
| cubevector | didn't stop Apple from copying Xerox though eh? | Aug 26 15:54 |
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| cubevector | Apple could be the most litigatious high tech company | Aug 26 15:55 |
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| balrog | hey all ... anyone seen http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/26/mpegla_v_google/ ? | Aug 26 15:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @BreakingAndroid: Droid Incredible Now Expected to See Froyo Update Tomorrow http://bit.ly/9lteZR via http://topicfire.com/Android | Aug 26 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: Red Hat moves to make #Deltacloud an industry standard. #redhatcloud http://bit.ly/cecD5y | Aug 26 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Using ATA Over Ethernet (AoE) On Ubuntu 10.04 (Initiator And Target) http://is.gd/eFqTG !gnu !linux !freesoftware !ubuntu | Aug 26 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] e-commerce solutions: OpenCart http://is.gd/eFr1x | Aug 26 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Vyatta 6.1 Is Certified for IPv6 http://is.gd/eFr8b !vyatta | Aug 26 15:57 | |
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| balrog | still not ideal :[ | Aug 26 15:57 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Be-aware this is a fake website : http://olpcsouthasia.org/ | Aug 26 16:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Iomega says its removable drives will be USB 3.0 http://is.gd/eFrgE | Aug 26 16:02 | |
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| balrog | lol iomega removable drives | Aug 26 16:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozillanews: New Firefox Mobile versions http://ff.im/-pLqpd | Aug 26 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @chrisccoulson: Beta builds of #firefox 3.6.9 to http://is.gd/eFoQs for !ubuntu #hardy #jaunty #karmic and #lucid. Pls help test these | Aug 26 16:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: VA Hospitals Embracing Open Source Medical Records System http://bit.ly/958wMm | Aug 26 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @pelegri: Sacha on the Google/Oracle - Worth a read - http://sacha.labourey.com/2010/08/16/orcl-vs-goog-hopefully-just-a-bad-timing/ | Aug 26 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @bob_sutor: RT @IanSkerrett: Android development presentation at Eclipse Day http://twitpic.com/2idwf9 | Aug 26 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] TeX4Ht supports #LaTeX to #ODF conversion but has some problems with #MathML: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn.html | Aug 26 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RabelaisA11y: odt2braille User Guide now complete: http://bit.ly/aAinln (and we welcome volunteer translators) #a11y #braille #foss #odf | Aug 26 16:12 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Fire and Explosion At Hydrogen Station Near Rochester Airport http://bit.ly/c5NDU8 | Aug 26 16:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Technology Story | Fire and Explosion At Hydrogen Station Near Rochester Airport .::. Size~: 53.69 KB | Aug 26 16:16 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Aug 26 21:18 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | Aug 26 21:18 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:34 2010 | Aug 26 21:18 | |
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| oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/08/arm-virtualization-tech-adds-more-fuel-to-server-fire.ars schestowitz one step closer to choose your own OS phones. | Aug 26 21:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ARM virtualization tech adds more fuel to server fire .::. Size~: 27.86 KB | Aug 26 21:20 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Are Villa trying to get the fans to clean the seats to save them money? #squeakybumtime | Aug 26 21:21 | |
| MinceR | it would be nice to run a gnu/linux vm on my symbian os phone | Aug 26 21:21 |
| gnufreex | http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/08/26/novell-fy-q3-misses/ | Aug 26 21:25 |
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| gnufreex | http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Novell-Reports-Financial-prnews-339494392.html?x=0&.v=1 | Aug 26 21:25 |
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| gnufreex | 199m | Aug 26 21:26 |
| gnufreex | Crap | Aug 26 21:26 |
| gnufreex | That is too much | Aug 26 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @beginlinux: Learn how to use the UFW firewall http://tiny.cc/P6a2p | Aug 26 21:27 | |
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| gnufreex | WorkloadIQ™ | Aug 26 21:29 |
| gnufreex | Hahaha | Aug 26 21:29 |
| gnufreex | “However, I am pleased that we achieved consistent profitability levels. The growth prospects of our target markets remain strong and our focus going forward is on returning to top line growth via execution of our differentiated strategy, WorkloadIQ™.” | Aug 26 21:29 |
| gnufreex | Idiot. | Aug 26 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: thanks, I'm on it already | Aug 26 21:31 |
| schestowitz | I've been having some weird issues tonight | Aug 26 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Never had them before... keyboard and network | Aug 26 21:32 |
| schestowitz | CTRL+SHIDT key virtually pressed | Aug 26 21:32 |
| schestowitz | Does anyone here use xchat? | Aug 26 21:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Power problems in village...off and on. | Aug 26 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mairin: #NASA uses !fedora - http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2008/02/fedora-on-final-frontier.html | Aug 26 21:32 | |
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| gnufreex | I use Quassel | Aug 26 21:32 |
| oiaohm | WorkloadIQ is abasically another freeipa competior. | Aug 26 21:32 |
| _Goblin | boo... | Aug 26 21:32 |
| schestowitz | I had to reboot | Aug 26 21:32 |
| oiaohm | I use konversation | Aug 26 21:32 |
| _Goblin | you know to be l33t you HAVE to use Irssi? ;) | Aug 26 21:32 |
| MinceR | not icecap and not weechat? :> | Aug 26 21:33 |
| oiaohm | I was a Irssi user many years ago. | Aug 26 21:33 |
| gnufreex | Quassel crashed on me today. That never happens. | Aug 26 21:33 |
| _Goblin | or BitchX | Aug 26 21:33 |
| gnufreex | So I had issues too. | Aug 26 21:33 |
| MinceR | or EPIC | Aug 26 21:33 |
| _Goblin | oiaohm: Doesn't count ;) | Aug 26 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I lost an hour due to these problems | Aug 26 21:33 |
| MinceR | or ircii ;) | Aug 26 21:33 |
| schestowitz | And that's why I made that erroenous paste earlier | Aug 26 21:33 |
| schestowitz | erroneous | Aug 26 21:33 |
| oiaohm | http://www.thekonst.net/centericq/ Pitty this died. | Aug 26 21:34 |
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| oiaohm | Was my favorate texted based. | Aug 26 21:35 |
| MinceR | there's still bitlbee and minbif :> | Aug 26 21:37 |
| MinceR | (and irssi) | Aug 26 21:37 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Why Are Gay Porn Producers So Quick To Get Involved In Shakedown Copyright Pre-Settlement Schemes? http://dlvr.it/4JCt9 | Aug 26 21:39 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Quick Mention: Novell Report Disappoints, CEO Blames Takeover Bid http://ur1.ca/1a9a7 #takeover #Novell | Aug 26 21:39 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/?action=browse;oldid=EmacsIRCClient;id=ERC <<Anyone ever tried? | Aug 26 21:39 |
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| gnufreex | I am interested to see how many people Novell fired. But they are not reporting that. | Aug 26 21:41 |
| gnufreex | Red Hat adds about 100 people every quarter. And they are reporting it. | Aug 26 21:41 |
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| MinceR | i've never tried ERC, but i remember seeing at least one user regularly who does use it | Aug 26 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | cubevector: ping | Aug 26 21:50 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz maybe? | Aug 26 21:56 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @TheTechScribe: Taking turns as open source bad guys http://bit.ly/cHktNE <- The wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round... | Aug 26 21:58 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @saschalobo Wo waren die Dachbesetzer, als die Landesbank ungefähr soviel Steuergeld brauchte wie der Bahnhof kostet? #S21 | Aug 26 21:58 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @MichaelSinger: Gmail Calling: Google's Bid to Rule Your Communications http://is.gd/eFwPU | Aug 26 22:03 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] MPEG LA Announces Permanent Royalty Moratorium For H264 http://bit.ly/brsNUF | Aug 26 22:04 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] Apparently, homeopathic roadkill badger makes you randy. http://is.gd/eFx8g http://is.gd/eFxa3 #1023 | Aug 26 22:08 | |
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| schestowitz | Nobody here uses xchat then? | Aug 26 22:11 |
| ThistleWeb | I do | Aug 26 22:11 |
| ThistleWeb | ^^ was a response to the last question, not an agreement for marriage ;P | Aug 26 22:12 |
| MinceR | badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM | Aug 26 22:12 |
| schestowitz | I missed logging 8:30 to 9:30 or so | Aug 26 22:12 |
| schestowitz | In xchat's log format | Aug 26 22:12 |
| ThistleWeb | I wasnt around for that time, I also hide the timestamps and dont log | Aug 26 22:13 |
| ThistleWeb | <gnufreex> I am interested to see how many people Novell fired. But they are not reporting that. << thats my first comment since I came back in | Aug 26 22:13 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] How Hardware Is Helping Server, Desktop System Virtualization by @DanielDern http://is.gd/eFxYb | Aug 26 22:16 | |
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| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: or how many to pass to Asia | Aug 26 22:20 |
| ThistleWeb | you lost me | Aug 26 22:21 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Hehe. Yes, they are moving to India. | Aug 26 22:21 |
| ThistleWeb | oh gotcha | Aug 26 22:21 |
| schestowitz | I think I'll see if I can merge the logs I have... I had to reboot also to check new X settings anyway. | Aug 26 22:23 |
| gnufreex | Market Cap: | Aug 26 22:26 |
| gnufreex | RHT 6.53B http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:RHT | Aug 26 22:26 |
| gnufreex | NOVL 1.97B http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:NOVL | Aug 26 22:26 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft AstroTurfer Jonathan Zuck (ACT) Falsely Represents Small European Businesses, Other #RAND Pushers Named http://ur1.ca/1ab09 | Aug 26 22:29 | |
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| cubevector | hmm? | Aug 26 22:39 |
| cubevector | no for IRC I've used naim, irssi and/or xchat | Aug 26 22:40 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: can you mail me logs from the past 3 hours, please? | Aug 26 22:41 |
| cubevector | and of course KDE has KSirc | Aug 26 22:41 |
| schestowitz | I'll need to merge some | Aug 26 22:41 |
| cubevector | ummm ok | Aug 26 22:41 |
| schestowitz | The format isn't crucial, I just want to keep the logs complete | Aug 26 22:41 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Aug 26 22:41 |
| cubevector | so from 2 pm I suppose | Aug 26 22:42 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Why Firefox 4 is now the browser to beat by @pgralla http://bit.ly/cTw0ff | Aug 26 22:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Firefox 4 is now the browser to beat - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 58.56 KB | Aug 26 22:42 |
| cubevector | I was down for a while but I think I have the last 3 hours | Aug 26 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So what's the time line for !Pino? Is the next major release 0.3, or is it all incremental, right up to 1.0? | Aug 26 22:42 | |
| schestowitz | cubevector: yeah, also for the other channel | Aug 26 22:42 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Pentagon Confirms 2008 Computer Breach — 'Worst Ever' http://bit.ly/cTkfBQ | Aug 26 22:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot IT Story | Pentagon Confirms 2008 Computer Breach — 'Worst Ever' .::. Size~: 50.77 KB | Aug 26 22:46 |
| cubevector | I only have back to 15:00 | Aug 26 22:47 |
| cubevector | so the last 2 hours 44 minutes | Aug 26 22:47 |
| schestowitz | That's good | Aug 26 22:48 |
| cubevector | http://www.maxhost.org/other/tech-rights-15-00-2.44.txt | Aug 26 22:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 22:50 |
| schestowitz | excellent, thanks | Aug 26 22:53 |
| cubevector | http://maxhost.org/other/boycottnovell-15-00-2.50.txt | Aug 26 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Aug 26 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canon Introduces a Staggering 120MP Camera Sensor http://ur1.ca/1abue | Aug 26 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Morgan Freeman, Ted Danson support post-oil spill Gulf impact expedition http://ur1.ca/1abx1 | Aug 26 22:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canon Introduces 120MP Camera Sensor - HotHardware .::. Size~: 43.3 KB | Aug 26 22:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Morgan Freeman, Ted Danson support post-oil spill Gulf impact expedition | al.com .::. Size~: 69.12 KB | Aug 26 22:57 |
| *Jookia (~jookia@ppp59-167-167-240.static.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Aug 26 23:08 | |
| Jookia | What's the Microsoft Open Specification Promise? | Aug 26 23:09 |
| gnufreex | Joika: That is some kind of promise that Microsoft won't sure you if you use their technology. | Aug 26 23:16 |
| gnufreex | It worths nothing. | Aug 26 23:16 |
| gnufreex | There is also Microsoft community promise, that worths even less than nothing. | Aug 26 23:17 |
| Jookia | But it's an irrevocable patent license. | Aug 26 23:17 |
| gnufreex | It is not patent license | Aug 26 23:17 |
| gnufreex | Just promise. | Aug 26 23:17 |
| gnufreex | A word | Aug 26 23:17 |
| Jookia | Sorry, half asleep | Aug 26 23:17 |
| Jookia | irrevocable PROMISE | Aug 26 23:17 |
| gnufreex | It is not tested in court, and if Microosft sells patents to one of their patent trolls, then they can get around it. | Aug 26 23:19 |
| MinceR | gn | Aug 26 23:20 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Another Reason To Buy: A Unique CD For Fans That No One Else Will Get http://dlvr.it/4JMKx | Aug 26 23:20 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] Jeffrey Morris is quite possibly the stupidest man alive. http://is.gd/eFCVM And a spammer. http://is.gd/eFCWH | Aug 26 23:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Another Reason To Buy: A Unique CD For Fans That No One Else Will Get | Techdirt .::. Size~: 30.61 KB | Aug 26 23:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Legal Threat Demands We Shut Down Techdirt | Techdirt .::. Size~: 219.37 KB | Aug 26 23:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Jeftel A Spamming Front? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 418.9 KB | Aug 26 23:20 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: What's gn ? | Aug 26 23:21 |
| cubevector | goodnight | Aug 26 23:22 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard Jeffrey Morris is quite possibly the stupidest man alive. http://is.gd/eFCVM And a spammer. http://is.gd/eFCWH | Aug 26 23:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Legal Threat Demands We Shut Down Techdirt | Techdirt .::. Size~: 219.37 KB | Aug 26 23:23 |
| gnufreex | Aha. kewl, evrything is in acronym now (ESIAN) | Aug 26 23:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Jeftel A Spamming Front? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 418.9 KB | Aug 26 23:23 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] A very grumpy editor's thoughts on Oracle: LWN.net: "Your editor is somewhat reluctant to contribute to the flood;... http://bit.ly/97XYf8 | Aug 26 23:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] Bcache Testing: Throughput: Linux Magazine: "Get your wetsuit on, we're going data diving. Throughput benchmarks u... http://bit.ly/c9QrAX | Aug 26 23:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Today - A very grumpy editor's thoughts on Oracle .::. Size~: 77.82 KB | Aug 26 23:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Today - Bcache Testing: Throughput .::. Size~: 77.11 KB | Aug 26 23:24 |
| Jookia | "The threats are quite incredible, demanding that we shut down the entire site of Techdirt, due to a comment (or, potentially, comments) that the client did not like." | Aug 26 23:25 |
| Jookia | Freedom of speech? Where? | Aug 26 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Aug 26 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, bullies exist | Aug 26 23:26 |
| Jookia | What do you do for a living Schestowitz? | Aug 26 23:27 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] "sitting down all day reduces your lifespan" ... I mean, #DUH !!!!! | Aug 26 23:27 | |
| schestowitz | I hope to start lecturing soon | Aug 26 23:29 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @allspaw: "CPU-bound" is another way of saying "winning" True! | Aug 26 23:29 | |
| Jookia | Cool. On what? | Aug 26 23:29 |
| schestowitz | My research area (see my site) | Aug 26 23:30 |
| Jookia | Medical Biophysics? | Aug 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 26 23:31 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Sit Longer, Die Sooner http://bit.ly/bHAvMx | Aug 26 23:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Science Story | Sit Longer, Die Sooner .::. Size~: 49.94 KB | Aug 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | What a silly headline | Aug 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | These are useless items from /. | Aug 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | It's not sitting | Aug 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | it's being sedentary | Aug 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | And some people don't do activity /because/ they are unhealthy, not the other way around (cause+effect reversed) | Aug 26 23:32 |
| schestowitz | original headline also deceiving: "The longer you sit, the earlier you die" | Aug 26 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Summary: "Researchers say that's even for people who exercise regularly after long sit-a-thons at the office and aren't obese." | Aug 26 23:33 |
| schestowitz | That's a totally different statement | Aug 26 23:33 |
| Jookia | sit-a-thons? | Aug 26 23:33 |
| schestowitz | You can sit for 42 miles | Aug 26 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Maybe use workrave on the mouse | Aug 26 23:35 |
| schestowitz | 42 km | Aug 26 23:36 |
| Jookia | ..Right.. | Aug 26 23:36 |
| *Jookia (~jookia@ppp59-167-167-240.static.internode.on.net) has left #techrights | Aug 26 23:36 | |
| schestowitz | jookia off to a sit-a-thons | Aug 26 23:36 |
| schestowitz | jookia off to a sit-a-thon | Aug 26 23:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "لزقة وتنحل [مشكلة برامج أبل للتجسس عبر التصوير]". شباب، المشكلة شوية أكبر من كذا: لازم إن *جهازك* ما يشتغل ضدك لصالح غيرك. !arabs | Aug 26 23:37 | |
| schestowitz | http://xkcd.com/55/ | Aug 26 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: xkcd: Useless .::. Size~: 7.55 KB | Aug 26 23:40 |
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