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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Dell promises to open-source Streak code http://ur1.ca/1ae31 Dell does what ought to be done. #dell #linux | Aug 27 00:20 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] How To Index and Search a Video By Emotion http://bit.ly/b0NpdN | Aug 27 00:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell promises to open-source Streak code | Electronista .::. Size~: 70 KB | Aug 27 00:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.technewsworld.com/story/70696.html | Aug 27 00:23 |
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| schestowitz | Weird articles | Aug 27 00:23 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Has Microsoft Extinguished Silverlight? http://dlvr.it/4JWQJ | Aug 27 00:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Has Microsoft Extinguished Silverlight? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 26.55 KB | Aug 27 00:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @bkuhn @mjjzf, I prefer Kelvin as my default in the winter. It never really feels that cold when you're saying: "But it's 266 degr ... | Aug 27 00:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The Stupid vs. Evil debate about #FoxNews in #TheDailyShow was so funny. @rms's http://ur1.ca/1ageg reminded me of it. :) | Aug 27 00:52 | |
| schestowitz | Oh, nice | Aug 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | We made techdirt FP | Aug 27 00:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Everyone is in !FreedomBox mailing list to shape the new technology, right? http://ur1.ca/1ahfh !gnu !fs | Aug 27 01:17 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Glibc Is Finally Free Software http://bit.ly/bSKIbx | Aug 27 01:20 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 26/8/2010: #RedHad Reaches Year Highs, #Droid Incredible to Get Froyo http://ur1.ca/1ai54 #techrights | Aug 27 01:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 26/8/2010: Red Had Reaches Year Highs, Droid Incredible to Get Froyo | Techrights .::. Size~: 126.15 KB | Aug 27 01:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/8/2010: #RedHad Reaches Year Highs, #Droid Incredible to Get Froyo http://ur1.ca/1ai54 !techrights | Aug 27 01:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 26/8/2010: Red Had Reaches Year Highs, Droid Incredible to Get Froyo | Techrights .::. Size~: 126.15 KB | Aug 27 01:32 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] MPEG-LA Offers ‘Free’ Drugs (Read the Fine Print) http://ur1.ca/1aic2 #mpegla #webm #vp8 #swpats #patents #trap | Aug 27 01:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MPEG-LA Offers Free Drugs (Read the Fine Print) | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.44 KB | Aug 27 01:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/WinExtra/statuses/22219591825 "so .. silverlight is suppose to be dead or at least dying? http://bit.ly/cIUdP2" | Aug 27 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / WinExtra: so .. silverlight is suppo ... .::. Size~: 11.76 KB | Aug 27 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Silverlight Unofficially Dead Now? | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.54 KB | Aug 27 01:59 |
| schestowitz | Wow. The Microsoft folks took over the comments | Aug 27 01:59 |
| schestowitz | This is more like "damage control" | Aug 27 01:59 |
| balrog | schestowitz: comments at TechDirt or here? | Aug 27 01:59 |
| balrog | silverlight never worked right :( | Aug 27 02:00 |
| schestowitz | TechDirt | Aug 27 02:00 |
| schestowitz | Compare the early ones to later ones | Aug 27 02:00 |
| balrog | the "class capture" webapps they use at school all rely on it | Aug 27 02:00 |
| schestowitz | Subscribers versus firefight squad | Aug 27 02:00 |
| schestowitz | balrog: yes, but will there be future versions? | Aug 27 02:00 |
| schestowitz | People say "XP7" | Aug 27 02:01 |
| schestowitz | But it won't sell | Aug 27 02:01 |
| schestowitz | See KIN | Aug 27 02:01 |
| schestowitz | People never picked up WPF for Vista app development | Aug 27 02:01 |
| schestowitz | That was the intention | Aug 27 02:01 |
| schestowitz | Moon Lie development is dead | Aug 27 02:01 |
| schestowitz | You never hear about it and since Silver Lie 3.0 hype there has been nothing | Aug 27 02:02 |
| schestowitz | not even 4.0 vapourware | Aug 27 02:02 |
| schestowitz | Just dev cuts | Aug 27 02:02 |
| balrog | schestowitz: there will be future versions of that software | Aug 27 02:03 |
| balrog | but the devs will probably end up screwed over | Aug 27 02:03 |
| balrog | if sl goes away | Aug 27 02:03 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #OOXML Revisionism http://ur1.ca/1aj8s Controversies around OOXML gradually vanish, at least in Wikipedia #odf #uk | Aug 27 02:20 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] The annual Year of the Linux desktop http://blogs.adobe.com/open/2010/08/the-year-that-never-was.html #linux | Aug 27 02:20 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Apple Lessens Its Commitment to Servers Market http://ur1.ca/1akcs Apple pulls the plug on Boot Camp for OSX Server | Aug 27 02:21 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @webmink: GNU/Linux - finally it's Free software: http://bit.ly/SunRPC [by me] | Aug 27 02:27 | |
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| schestowitz | "And stop counting the desktops." -Adobe | Aug 27 02:28 |
| schestowitz | "open source" | Aug 27 02:29 |
| schestowitz | ha! | Aug 27 02:29 |
| schestowitz | Defeatism or apathy | Aug 27 02:29 |
| schestowitz | Adobe "open source" is parasitic | Aug 27 02:29 |
| schestowitz | How to put Trash on as many devices as possible | Aug 27 02:29 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Stealth Mode = Miss The Boat Mode http://dlvr.it/4JjNj | Aug 27 02:40 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Google #ChromeOS Tablet to be #Ballnux (Microsoft Tax) http://ur1.ca/1almh #HTC pays #Microsoft for #Linux | Aug 27 03:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Environmental ministry rejects Vedanta's plan http://ur1.ca/1an2j | Aug 27 03:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: 6 of the Best Free Linux Customer Service Trouble Ticketing Software http://bit.ly/9KttOm !linux | Aug 27 03:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Today - 6 of the Best Free Linux Customer Service Trouble Ticketing Software .::. Size~: 77.66 KB | Aug 27 03:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @hrhnick: adopt one today! !gnu http://ur1.ca/6xo | Aug 27 03:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Apple Lessens Its Commitment to Servers Market http://ur1.ca/1akcs Apple pulls the plug on Boot Camp for OSX Server | Aug 27 03:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Kudos to Spot in pushing the RPC code into the fully free license! http://ur1.ca/1antd | Aug 27 03:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: PlayOnLinux 3.8 has landed with a lot of new features http://bit.ly/aYG9ha #linux | Aug 27 03:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LXer: PlayOnLinux 3.8 has landed with a lot of new features .::. Size~: 13.57 KB | Aug 27 03:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @webmink: GNU/Linux - finally it's Free software: http://bit.ly/SunRPC | Aug 27 03:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: Fedora 14 alpha gets ROOT http://bit.ly/aCPQ2j | Aug 27 04:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Fedora 14 and Meego 1.0 - awesome! http://is.gd/eG0sq !fedora !gnu !linux !meego | Aug 27 04:17 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Robot Swarm Control On Microsoft's Surface http://bit.ly/9Ggzqi | Aug 27 04:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Haiti has not recovered http://ur1.ca/1apgs | Aug 27 04:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Why Firefox 4 is now the browser to beat http://is.gd/eG0WU !firefox !mozilla | Aug 27 04:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Firefox 4 Beta 4 opens a new Panorama http://is.gd/eG1t6 !firefox !mozilla | Aug 27 04:32 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[anivar] RT @brpbhaskar: Not Only Niyamgiri: Stop Resource-Grab Everywhere! http://t.co/jYjS2ZH | Aug 27 05:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] #nginx is far more frugal / than #apache / I learned from #google | Aug 27 05:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z The advantage to #Capitalism is that the people under it aren't assumed owned by the state // but owned by corp. yay! | Aug 27 05:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Activists terminate GM grape vine experiment http://ur1.ca/1ar0p | Aug 27 05:27 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Please add comment in order to support ogg/webm open standards as default format for video in khan academy http://tinyurl.com/36cohqe | Aug 27 05:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Issue 1035 - khanacademy - Format of Video should be ogg or webm - Project Hosting on Google Code .::. Size~: 12.45 KB | Aug 27 05:39 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Yes, The DMCA Is Still Quite Controversial http://dlvr.it/4K38P | Aug 27 05:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Back on 12-hour shifts next few days. My wallet will love it, while my body hates it. | Aug 27 05:57 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Wife informs me that in Brazil the weekend is often defined as Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Take that, Protestant work ethic | Aug 27 06:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @HispanicCG @nueva_voz @minsd @Lalizlatina @ergeekgoddess I feel like Im not mad enough when I curse in English! //my wife says same! | Aug 27 06:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Baha'i community leaders sentenced http://ur1.ca/1arf0 | Aug 27 06:27 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] A marginal blog falsely accuses me of advocating RAND patent royalties. NoSwPat=>no royalties. But RAND is better than exclusion #boycottboy | Aug 27 06:42 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/MPEG-LA-extends-fee-free-use-of-H-264-1067246.html The effect of presure. | Aug 27 06:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @crosbie Mankind's culture is NOT a commons as that implies it can be depleted - thus deserving of control and enclosure by !copyright. | Aug 27 06:57 | |
| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/d5s3l/there_is_a_growing_movement_to_amend_the_us/ | Aug 27 07:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "There is a growing movement to amend the U.S. Constitution, to strip corporations of the legal status of “personhood,” the concept that corporations have the same rights as regular people. This would subject corporations to the same oversight that existed for the first 100 years of U.S. history." : politics .::. Size~: 513.21 KB | Aug 27 07:02 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Do anybody know any LiveCD/USB distro which has only one GUI application which is firefox. I want LiveFirefoxUSB distro #howtodoit ? | Aug 27 07:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] #ff eclectic credit where due @ergeekgoddess @tosfm @arrestrovenow @the_kerouac_cat @johnleesandiego @eikonos @drgrist @superacid @tllanes | Aug 27 07:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@ergeekgoddess very true about #Montreal. I was there this week... Recommendation: Lélé da Cuca restaurante brasileiro in Plateau district | Aug 27 07:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Kepler Spacecraft Finds System With Multiple Planets Transiting the Star http://bit.ly/bjOrE2 | Aug 27 07:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Blocking Obama http://ur1.ca/1arrp | Aug 27 07:27 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] I have downloaded 4GB video tutorial of inkscape from http://screencasters.heathenx.org/ Anybody can take from me in Delhi | Aug 27 07:28 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #red_hat rocks! RT @harishpillay Kudos to Spot in pushing the RPC code into the fully free license! http://ur1.ca/1antd | Aug 27 07:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RomiMaier: Microsoft To Pay More Than Half A Billion Dollars To Jump-Start Windows Phone 7 - http://tcrn.ch/9mVfng by @kimmaicutler | Aug 27 07:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: RT @xdadevelopers: Android: HTC EVO 4G Froyo Update Rooted! http://bit.ly/a1ngDP | Aug 27 07:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @johnkoetsier: Guess Who Is Trying To Trademark The Word “Face”? (And Guess Who Is Trying To Stop It?) http://tcrn.ch/9fsDpa | Aug 27 07:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: RT @pressecitron: RT @Technologix: L’histoire et l’évolution de l’email en une seule image http://drp.ly/1C2R1P | Aug 27 07:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Dell promises to open-source Streak code http://ur1.ca/1ae31 Dell does what ought to be done. #dell !linux | Aug 27 07:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @jeanaustinr: Change is FOSSible! Software Freedom Day #Philippines 2010 http://bit.ly/cJ31FS #FOSS #Linux !Ubuntu !Ubuntuph | Aug 27 07:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: MPEG-LA Offers ‘Free’ Drugs (Read the Fine Print) http://ur1.ca/1aic2 #mpegla #webm #vp8 #swpats #patents #trap | Aug 27 07:57 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/47221460#notice-47622733 "Please, is there any !Android phonemaker that DOESN'T pay Microsoft on !swpats ? I want to buy his products... :)" | Aug 27 08:02 |
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| schestowitz | Motorola is one | Aug 27 08:02 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, _Goblin | Aug 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | break, eh? | Aug 27 08:11 |
| _Goblin | Hi! | Aug 27 08:11 |
| _Goblin | two days off | Aug 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100823/04030810730.shtml | Aug 27 08:11 |
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| schestowitz | I cited us and mostly agrees | Aug 27 08:11 |
| _Goblin | then Im down at Notting Hill | Aug 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | But watch the Microsofters in the comments, catching up with the regular readers | Aug 27 08:12 |
| schestowitz | I stayed near Notting Hill last month | Aug 27 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Kensington | Aug 27 08:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @rsandu ♺ @schestowitz: Dell promises to open-source Streak code http://ur1.ca/1ae31 Dell does what ought to be done. #dell !linux | Aug 27 08:12 | |
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| _Goblin | you won't want to be there now.... | Aug 27 08:12 |
| _Goblin | its carnival time. | Aug 27 08:12 |
| schestowitz | What kind? | Aug 27 08:12 |
| _Goblin | Notting Hill Carnival | Aug 27 08:12 |
| _Goblin | starts sunday | Aug 27 08:13 |
| _Goblin | its actually very good...nice event... | Aug 27 08:13 |
| _Goblin | just very messy.... | Aug 27 08:13 |
| _Goblin | the rubbish left over at the end is ankle deep | Aug 27 08:13 |
| _Goblin | to be fair, they manage to clean it within a few hours.....its all back to normal by tuesday | Aug 27 08:14 |
| _Goblin | I saw Ed Botts little dig..... | Aug 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Which one/s? | Aug 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | PR | Aug 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Not digs | Aug 27 08:15 |
| _Goblin | The one about the plane crash... | Aug 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | How's that laptop Microsoft gave him handling Linux? | Aug 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | He once 'tried' to install Linux | Aug 27 08:15 |
| _Goblin | he loves Linux but..... | Aug 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | I put that in scare quotes cause he faked failing | Aug 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | "I really tried to love it, really!!!" | Aug 27 08:16 |
| schestowitz | "It's not you, it's me' | Aug 27 08:16 |
| schestowitz | That's another ZDTroll from some week ago | Aug 27 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Using this line of 'reasoning' | Aug 27 08:16 |
| _Goblin | Ed Bot may know what he's talking about technically (when it comes to MS products) but writing a piece of propaganda....he's very bad at it...totally obvious. | Aug 27 08:16 |
| schestowitz | People won't value your opinion if you say "Linux is a POS, I tried to use it anyway" | Aug 27 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Ed Bought | Aug 27 08:17 |
| schestowitz | [by Microsoft] | Aug 27 08:17 |
| _Goblin | lol... | Aug 27 08:17 |
| schestowitz | That's what I call him, not "bot" | Aug 27 08:17 |
| _Goblin | I call him bot....as in an automated MS MR device. | Aug 27 08:17 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: what's his latest? | Aug 27 08:17 |
| _Goblin | er...standby | Aug 27 08:17 |
| schestowitz | He sells Windows books for a living | Aug 27 08:17 |
| _Goblin | I'll get you the link.. | Aug 27 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Like Preston gorilla [sic] | Aug 27 08:18 |
| _Goblin | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/fact-check-malware-did-not-bring-down-a-passenger-jet/2354 | Aug 27 08:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fact check: malware did not bring down a passenger jet | ZDNet .::. Size~: 146.99 KB | Aug 27 08:20 |
| _Goblin | its not direct at anyone. | Aug 27 08:20 |
| _Goblin | so to speak | Aug 27 08:20 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Fedora in Bucharest, right on the street http://is.gd/eFZUr [TRANSLATION] #gnu #linux #fedora | Aug 27 08:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Fauxpatents Mueller told me that he uses FOSS when I pointed out he uses #Vista7 ; it turns out he also uses Office 2010. Real "FOSS", eh? | Aug 27 08:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz and he programs with .NET exclusively. | Aug 27 08:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @rsandu ♺ @jeanaustinr: Change is FOSSible! Software Freedom Day #Philippines 2010 http://bit.ly/cJ31FS #FOSS #Linux #Ubuntu #Ubuntuph | Aug 27 08:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @rww Deltacloud: Is This the Cloud API Standard We've Been Looking For? http://rww.tw/96eOOY | Aug 27 08:21 | |
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| _Goblin | Ed Bott took great exception to computerworld (or someone like that) with the article: Murder by malware: Can computer viruses kill? | Aug 27 08:23 |
| _Goblin | although......if we want to be correct..... | Aug 27 08:23 |
| _Goblin | it should have read: | Aug 27 08:23 |
| _Goblin | Manslaughter by malware: Can computer viruses kill? | Aug 27 08:24 |
| _Goblin | since there was no intent..... | Aug 27 08:24 |
| _Goblin | just being picky. | Aug 27 08:24 |
| oiaohm | http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50159264-76/campbell-computer-police-server.html.csp Ok this is just wrong. | Aug 27 08:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Prosecutors: Mortgage worker got drunk, shot computer server | The Salt Lake Tribune .::. Size~: 94.05 KB | Aug 27 08:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Zenwalk 6.4 is out! A great distro I covered before: http://tinyurl.com/nyjjq5 visit the homepage: http://www.zenwalk.org/ !linux !zenwalk | Aug 27 08:32 | |
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| oiaohm | To be correct what makes australian IT crime laws the strongest out there was a cracker did try to kill the primemister. _Goblin | Aug 27 08:32 |
| oiaohm | Yes there is such thing as intent and a computer virus. | Aug 27 08:33 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Open Source Company Explores CwF+RtB In Getting Sponsorship For Whitepaper http://dlvr.it/4KL3l | Aug 27 08:33 | |
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| oiaohm | Ie kill by messing with medical records while primemister was in hostpital. _Goblin | Aug 27 08:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So the best package for editing/remastering ogg/mp3 is? My quest continues.... | Aug 27 08:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Talking of quests...will I have to send my PC back to Acer to get a Windows 7 refund? Stay tuned....its a WIP. !microsoft !windows !linux | Aug 27 08:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] currently writing an article on file sharing .... BT/Usenet/DCC .... why is !bittorrent regarded as such a good protocol? I delve deeper. | Aug 27 09:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Going to be considering the viability of PyOgre in its current version: http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/PyOgre Crisis variant in Python? lol | Aug 27 09:12 | |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | PS. I still wonder if Wikipedia can be salvaged. Slashdot seems to | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | have gone over completely to M$ but it is no longer relevant. The | Aug 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | legal discussion is at Groklaw, the freedom and policy articles here | Aug 27 09:14 |
| schestowitz | (congrats on 951) and the trolls go to 4chan. | Aug 27 09:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 09:14 |
| schestowitz | And diablod3 | Aug 27 09:14 |
| _Goblin | actually where is diablo-d3? | Aug 27 09:15 |
| _Goblin | Don't think Ive seen him for a bit | Aug 27 09:15 |
| _Goblin | or her | Aug 27 09:15 |
| _Goblin | or them. | Aug 27 09:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] A twitter user with the same handle as someone on Identi who is denting to Twitter....you poor soul, your replies won't mean much. | Aug 27 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I want Robotron to come back to Openbytes. Hopefully he's only slithered away for a short period....heres hoping. | Aug 27 09:17 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: intresting | Aug 27 09:17 |
| schestowitz | Bott was bought to be a bot that responds to PR disaster | Aug 27 09:17 |
| schestowitz | So you know Microsoft is worried about the Spanair aftermath | Aug 27 09:18 |
| schestowitz | It wants to dissociate itself from it | Aug 27 09:18 |
| schestowitz | [08:31] <oiaohm> http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50159264-76/campbell-computer-police-server.html.csp Ok this is just wrong. | Aug 27 09:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Prosecutors: Mortgage worker got drunk, shot computer server | The Salt Lake Tribune .::. Size~: 93.49 KB | Aug 27 09:19 |
| schestowitz | I wonder, why is it even news? | Aug 27 09:19 |
| schestowitz | I saw it at least 3 times already, won't put it in daily links. It's like b00b job stories.... | Aug 27 09:19 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Generosity by Publicity http://ur1.ca/1ash6 An outline and an analysis of Gates Foundation news from the past two weeks #pr #spin | Aug 27 09:21 | |
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| schestowitz | [09:15] <_Goblin> actually where is diablo-d3? | Aug 27 09:22 |
| schestowitz | He insists on staying just in channel #boycottnovell | Aug 27 09:22 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: you fed a troll yesterday | Aug 27 09:23 |
| schestowitz | You make the anti-techrights trolls more active this way, so please consider avoiding it | Aug 27 09:23 |
| schestowitz | They feed on attention | Aug 27 09:23 |
| schestowitz | The bliars write for the papers now? http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/aug/25/iran-bahai-community-sham-trial | Aug 27 09:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cherie Blair | Iran is attempting to decapitate its Bahá'í community | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 184.83 KB | Aug 27 09:35 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 have you seen this? http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/aug/25/iran-bahai-community-sham-trial | Aug 27 09:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cherie Blair | Iran is attempting to decapitate its Bahá'í community | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 184.83 KB | Aug 27 09:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-26/brush-first-solar-geokinetics-greenbrier-monster-u-s-equity-movers.html "Red Hat Inc. (RHT US) climbed 3.9 percent to $34.54, the highest price since April 2000. The largest seller of the Linux operating system may be chosen for an eight-year contract with the Social Security Administration worth $2 billion, displacing International Business Machines Corp., according to Jefferies Group Inc. " | Aug 27 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brush, Celgene, JDS, Red Hat, Wal-Mart: U.S. Equity Movers - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 53.73 KB | Aug 27 09:38 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Just donated $10 from my pocket towards AUFS - http://www.slax.org/aufs.php (checkout the Aug-2010 listings) #FOSS #donation | Aug 27 09:41 | |
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| schestowitz | http://dot.kde.org/2010/08/26/akonadi-demystified | Aug 27 09:52 |
| schestowitz | "As everyone wants to know how, when and if akonadi will eat their mail (microblog posts, contacts, babies, kittens etc, it is multifunctional) they all went to sebas' blog, which responded by going down. Now all future Akonadi users are panicking, afraid as they are that this is a sign of the future to come." | Aug 27 09:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Akonadi Demystified | KDE.news .::. Size~: 15.63 KB | Aug 27 09:52 |
| schestowitz | "Hastily, everyone is searching the web for more information about what is going on, taking it down server by server. In a few days, the main domain controllers will have to give up, taking down the whole web. The USA and Russia will automatically fire their nukes blowing us all back to the stone age." | Aug 27 09:52 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 27 09:52 |
| MinceR | geekings | Aug 27 09:58 |
| _Goblin | geekings... | Aug 27 10:00 |
| _Goblin | bit delayed, sorry. | Aug 27 10:00 |
| MinceR | np | Aug 27 10:00 |
| _Goblin | got two days off | Aug 27 10:00 |
| _Goblin | so im in a very good mood | Aug 27 10:00 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Finishing plans for trip to Cardiff in September. Will have some time for meetups with interested followers/peeps. | Aug 27 10:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Wired Youths In China & Japan Forget Character Forms http://bit.ly/cY4RZo | Aug 27 10:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #insightful on the ongoing Assange case http://is.gd/eGoBE | Aug 27 10:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Gotta love the phishing email: "I'm William Colgate II a representative of Exxon Mobil " ... Yep I'm really believing that. !lol !scam | Aug 27 10:27 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Novell said its quarterly revenue dip "is principally related to customer uncertainty" - http://is.gd/eGpPx | Aug 27 10:35 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "while customers are intrigued by Novell's technology, too many of them don't feel confident finalizing a purchase" - http://is.gd/eGpPx | Aug 27 10:36 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Count the number of Macs in this Ubuntu/Canonical meeting http://ur1.ca/1atux #walkthewalk | Aug 27 10:37 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] ♺ @schestowitz: Count the number of Macs in this Ubuntu/Canonical meeting http://ur1.ca/1atux #walkthewalk | Aug 27 10:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Preparing for Ubuntu 10.10 with the Platform Rally | Linux User .::. Size~: 37.93 KB | Aug 27 10:38 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz But I do spot 3 #neckbeards :-) #walkthewalk | Aug 27 10:39 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Southern African Music Collection Society Fighting Attempt To Put Public Domain Works Under Copyright http://dlvr.it/4KY3m | Aug 27 10:40 | |
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| schestowitz | Hehe. "But I do spot 3 #neckbeards :-) #walkthewalk" | Aug 27 10:44 |
| chibbo | why the hell are they using Macs? | Aug 27 10:44 |
| schestowitz | "Why support free software if people haven't embraced free hardware. Mac users, who can understand them? Strange loyalties." http://identi.ca/conversation/47264463#notice-47639289 | Aug 27 10:44 |
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| schestowitz | chibbo: their manager is Mac Asay | Aug 27 10:44 |
| chibbo | :/ | Aug 27 10:44 |
| MinceR | they hired asay because they were crApple cultists already | Aug 27 10:45 |
| MinceR | they're trying to make a gratis osx for EFI-less pcs with mono and bìng | Aug 27 10:45 |
| chibbo | ... | Aug 27 10:47 |
| schestowitz | "Fedora is running quite well on Macbooks. Boots native EFI, doesn't need MacOS X and is really, really fast. :)" | Aug 27 10:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: bingo | Aug 27 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Not anymore | Aug 27 10:48 |
| schestowitz | They played russian roulette to determine bong/bingo is not ready yet | Aug 27 10:48 |
| MinceR | "yet" is the key word here | Aug 27 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Yahoo is now Sweaty-powered in the US | Aug 27 10:48 |
| schestowitz | So 10.10 might revisite the Y!, I hope not though | Aug 27 10:49 |
| MinceR | i have no idea what trick they'll try next time | Aug 27 10:49 |
| chibbo | they'd switch to Ixquick if they had the balls :P | Aug 27 10:49 |
| MinceR | or DuckDuckGo :) | Aug 27 10:50 |
| MinceR | or another privacy-friendly search engine | Aug 27 10:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I wish.. | Aug 27 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Is there a toolbar for these | Aug 27 10:51 |
| schestowitz | I want to install one | Aug 27 10:52 |
| schestowitz | Google broke the scroogle toolbar or something last I tried years ago | Aug 27 10:52 |
| MinceR | Scroogle can be installed into the search bar via addons.mozilla.com | Aug 27 10:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t467011-scroogle-toolbar-for-firefox.html | Aug 27 10:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scroogle toolbar for Firefox .::. Size~: 35.74 KB | Aug 27 10:52 |
| MinceR | DDG can be installed directly from the site | Aug 27 10:52 |
| MinceR | DDG lists Ixquick, Cuil, Scroogle and yauba as other privacy-friendly search engines | Aug 27 10:53 |
| MinceR | Ixquick could be installed somehow, too (i think it was from addons.mozilla.org, too) | Aug 27 10:53 |
| MinceR | s/\.com/.org/ earlier | Aug 27 10:53 |
| schestowitz | I see.. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:4/cat:all?sort=weeklydownloads | Aug 27 10:53 |
| chibbo | MinceR: yes, I have the ixquick engine installed in my FF | Aug 27 10:54 |
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| MinceR | so do i | Aug 27 10:54 |
| chibbo | ixquick HTTPS actually :) | Aug 27 10:54 |
| MinceR | same here | Aug 27 10:54 |
| chibbo | damn DDG requires javascript enabled | Aug 27 10:55 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 27 10:56 |
| schestowitz | " I've been saying that for ages..... Hey, is that @daviey on the right, BTW?"http://identi.ca/conversation/47264537#notice-47639523 | Aug 27 10:57 |
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| chibbo | hmmm yauba seems pretty good | Aug 27 11:01 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/patrickf/statuses/22253640137 "you can boot Ubuntu on a Mac (best thing you can do with it). I count 2, fwiw." | Aug 27 11:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Indian admins love !Linux , stuck on !Windows http://tinyurl.com/38hco6w | Aug 27 11:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OpenTyrian DS A FOSS remake of an old classic (Tyrian) which is now available for DS (for those with an R4 or similar) !ds !foss !scene !r4 | Aug 27 11:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OpenTyrian DS can be found: http://vespenegas.com/tyrian.html !ds !foss !scene !r4 | Aug 27 11:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: VespeneGas DOT Com .::. Size~: 4.33 KB | Aug 27 11:17 |
| chibbo | oh man i loved tyrian | Aug 27 11:26 |
| chibbo | too bad i dont have my DS anymore :( | Aug 27 11:26 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 27/8/2010:#ZaReason “Back-to-School Special”, #PlayOnLinux 3.8 is Out http://ur1.ca/1avcm #techrights #fedora | Aug 27 11:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Groklaw - How You Can Help Patent Attorneys Help Free Software http://ow.ly/2vCQq | Aug 27 11:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 27/8/2010:#ZaReason “Back-to-School Special”, #PlayOnLinux 3.8 is Out http://ur1.ca/1avcm !techrights #fedora | Aug 27 11:27 | |
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| schestowitz | Heh | Aug 27 11:29 |
| schestowitz | PJ still plays the "lawyers are good" card | Aug 27 11:29 |
| schestowitz | OK, fair bias given Groklaw's audience | Aug 27 11:29 |
| schestowitz | I put a Bill Hicks video in that last "Links" post | Aug 27 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Strong message... maybe too strong, I take my chances | Aug 27 11:30 |
| schestowitz | I doubt marketing people read Techrights | Aug 27 11:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Indian admins love Linux, users stuck on Windows - ZDNet Asia http://ping.fm/NEq8A | Aug 27 11:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Large Hadron Collider Scientists are Using CouchDB http://ping.fm/01d9h | Aug 27 11:37 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] Review: ZaReason Verix Laptop: Linux.com: "One of the challenges of being a Linux desktop user is the difficulty i... http://bit.ly/d24Lkn | Aug 27 11:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Large Hadron Collider Scientists are Using CouchDB http://ping.fm/1je9V | Aug 27 11:42 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] ♺ @fabsh: http://bit.ly/bZIeA4 -- excellent article by @webmink that comprehensively explains why copyright assignments to a company are bad | Aug 27 12:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Florian Müller is a .NET Developer (Exclusively), Uses Very Latest of #Microsoft Software http://ur1.ca/1aw8g #mono #fauxpatents #lobbying | Aug 27 12:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Claim: #Microsoft Pressured Digidesign to Deny Support of #UNIX and #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/1awk4 #Protools #apple #mac | Aug 27 12:22 | |
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| oiaohm | I guess there is no way that a note could be include in the news reminding people that offical wine support channels don't support items like playonline | Aug 27 12:24 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: as we get enough people turning up asking for support on stuff like that. | Aug 27 12:25 |
| oiaohm | http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/08/gnulinux-finally-free-software/index.htm << I guess you have read this already. schestowitz | Aug 27 12:30 |
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| oiaohm | oracle most of the time fairly considerate. | Aug 27 12:30 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] (via @janhusar) "http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/man-arrested-at-large-hadron-collider-claims-hes-from-the-future-49305387/" | Aug 27 12:31 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] (via @janhusar) "Mr Cole was taken to a secure mental health facility in Geneva but later disappeared from his cell." http://is.gd/eGylm | Aug 27 12:32 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[anivar] Interim report of national Peoples Tribunal on #Kandhamal #communalism http://bit.ly/do5yr7 | Aug 27 12:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Thanks @spot, @fontana, @webmink, @brettcsmith, novalis & everyone who helped fix #problematic #SunRPC license. My blog on it: ur1.ca/1axpt | Aug 27 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] RS @bkuhn: Thanks @spot, @fontana, @webmink, @brettcsmith, novalis & everyone who helped fix #problematic #SunRPC license. | Aug 27 12:47 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Does Not Rebut Claims of #Silverlight Demise, Messengers Attacked Though http://ur1.ca/1ay97 | Aug 27 13:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Thank you, #Oracle. I disagree a lot with other stuff you are doing, but this case is different. You did it right. http://is.gd/eGAbd | Aug 27 13:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Everything You Need To Know About USB 3.0 http://bit.ly/acleCf | Aug 27 13:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Adobe Distances Itself From Dave McAllister’s Attack on #SCOracle and Implicit Defence of #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/1ayp5 #java #obstacle | Aug 27 13:23 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] How SUN saved the free world http://spot.livejournal.com/315383.html | Aug 27 13:24 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] “Merely Slapping the WorkloadIQ Name… Cannot Change“ Novell’s Demise http://ur1.ca/1az7a #redhat #suse | Aug 27 13:28 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] FTC Cracks Down On Marketing Firm That Put Up Fake Reviews In iPhone App Store http://dlvr.it/4KqFZ | Aug 27 13:32 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #followfriday @fontana @webmink @serk01 @rsandu @rms @mattl | Aug 27 13:35 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] How is RAND better than RF? That was news to us. | Aug 27 13:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Help: Uma distro que tenha um PHPMyAdmin recente. | Aug 27 13:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Help please: a distro which comes with latest PHPMyadmin...? | Aug 27 13:42 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @techdirt @mmasnick "But we were surprised to know that Reverb had worked with Apple so much." http://ur1.ca/1azqn | Aug 27 13:44 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] FCC Fights To Maintain Indecency Policy http://bit.ly/97F057 | Aug 27 13:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Wondering, since @fontana keeps denting but won't answer phone, if I should have conversation w/ him here instead in 140 char increments. :) | Aug 27 13:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @webmink Should Open Source Communities Avoid Contributor Agreements? http://bit.ly/bZIeA4 [by me] | Aug 27 13:52 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @webmink Should Open Source Communities Avoid Contributor Agreements? http://bit.ly/bZIeA4 | Aug 27 14:23 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] ♺ @rcweir: RT @johndrinkwater: it’s time to call bullshit and cause a fuss wrt Apple’s iWork not supporting #ODF | Aug 27 14:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Many Hackers Accidentally Send Their Code To Microsoft http://bit.ly/bp7v6V | Aug 27 14:31 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] On MPEG's extension of free web video license: their terms are commercially OK. There are *far* bigger patent problems than MPEG. | Aug 27 14:32 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] when posting links, can you all please keep the http:// - it sucks to not be able to click on say mobile phones. kthxbai | Aug 27 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: RT @johndrinkwater: it’s time to call bullshit and cause a fuss wrt Apple’s iWork not supporting #ODF | Aug 27 14:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: OpenOffice 3.2.1 Available In The Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx Proposed Repository http://bit.ly/b7wHgQ | Aug 27 14:37 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] How Virtualization Helps Your Disaster Recovery Strategy by @bakercom1 http://is.gd/eGI80 | Aug 27 14:46 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] The Smart Electrical Grid: Three Likely Effects on IT by @bakercom1 http://is.gd/eGIhV Very interesting overview of a coming technology. | Aug 27 14:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Despre morală, Biserică și stat: „Morala în sine, autonomă, e mai primejdioasă pentru religie decât ateismul. Știi... http://bit.ly/9bAaJm | Aug 27 15:22 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Your Internet Policy: Catch Up to Social Media & the Cloud by @Jenz514 http://is.gd/eGIu7 Good points, many user policies are out of date. | Aug 27 15:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @coolguy4linux: Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive.. What's the alternatives? http://shar.es/0WEed | Aug 27 15:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] The Four Dimensions of Cloud Provisioning by Scott Fulton (@SMFulton3) http://is.gd/eGIEq | Aug 27 15:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] The call for "legislative guidance" on fair dealing in C-32: Is it the plan to reverse CCH and user rights? http://bit.ly/bpXDAC | Aug 27 15:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @maryjofoley: A billion to launch Windows Phone 7? I bet Microsoft is paying a lot more: http://zd.net/aA59Tf Me: Agreed. | Aug 27 15:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @jnaze: How to murder a Flash cookie zombie | ITworld http://bit.ly/cyGt47 (no LPs or cricket bats required). | Aug 27 15:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @Computerworld: The e-reader market: Still young and restless. Matt Hamblen analyzes what's going on. http://bit.ly/cijYm0 | Aug 27 15:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Why Does The NY Times Rely So Often On Single Anecdote Trend Pieces Not Supported By The Data? http://dlvr.it/4L0HG | Aug 27 15:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Czech Copyright Bill Undercuts Copyleft, Artists http://bit.ly/cioSkB | Aug 27 15:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Scary. A peak at the industry's "wish list" for copyright expansion, what we get if our vigilance wanes. http://bit.ly/9FTyg2 | Aug 27 15:23 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @webmink: Fixing Linux: The long, sordid tale of Sun RPC, abbrev somewhat, to protect the guily & irresponsibl... http://bit.ly/dv083T | Aug 27 15:28 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Could be a nice avatar for me :-) http://is.gd/eGMb3 | Aug 27 15:43 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] First of many? We can only hope, although there's a limited number of hours in the day to investigate all of them http://bbc.in/aKuBdk | Aug 27 15:45 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Reverb are unrepentant. Will their clients like the decision? Publicly yes, privately probs not. | Aug 27 15:48 | |
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| cubevector | this ethernet card is rather slow | Aug 27 16:21 |
| cubevector | it maxes out at 1 megabyte per sec | Aug 27 16:22 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] How likely is it that every positive comment on reviews of their clients games will get the 'guess you work for reverb then' reply | Aug 27 16:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] The Book Bench: A Book By Any Other Name http://is.gd/eGMZ4 Amusing alt. book titles. | Aug 27 16:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Developer Demands Pirate Bay Not Remove Torrent http://bit.ly/cHL4V7 | Aug 27 16:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] CIPPIC argues Facebook has failed to comply with promised privacy changes dating from 2009 settlement http://bit.ly/cWhiiy | Aug 27 16:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Happy Ubuntu Global Jam everyone! Go and join your local event, or organize one! http://is.gd/eGNsD #locoteams #ugl | Aug 27 16:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Come to my local Ubuntu Global Jam event in Berkeley! Starts at 10am - http://is.gd/eDRnS #locoteams #ugj #ubuntu | Aug 27 16:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Killer Patents http://bit.ly/drItSw If you think patents are bad in computer technology, look at what they do in medicine. | Aug 27 16:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] How The Record Labels Kill Off Innovative Startups With Ridiculous Licensing Demands http://dlvr.it/4L4tP | Aug 27 16:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] USA Today shaking up staff in radical overhaul' http://is.gd/eGOmU Me: Radical = 9% cut. Oh, and new focus on online. | Aug 27 16:23 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] So often the fact that the companies are cowboys treating customers like shit is not a factor huh? ttp://bit.ly/9Pkcxs | Aug 27 16:23 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] FTC Fines ‘Fake Reviews’ Firm That Worked With #Apple http://techrights.org/2010/08/27/fake-reviews-crackdown/ | Aug 27 16:24 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @johndrinkwater: it’s time to call bullshit and cause a fuss wrt Apple’s iWork not supporting #ODF | Aug 27 16:29 | |
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| gnufreex | http://www.thevarguy.com/2010/08/27/fortune-500-firm-leaving-vmware-for-microsoft-hyper-v/ | Aug 27 16:31 |
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| gnufreex | This is outrageous | Aug 27 16:32 |
| gnufreex | It looks like you don't need to have any technology to win market. Only monopoly power. | Aug 27 16:32 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @geekygirldawn: Every wonder how a community manager spends the day? Here's mine: http://bit.ly/cBC5Rd | Aug 27 16:33 | |
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| cubevector | really who cares what the var guy says | Aug 27 16:33 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, he is an idiot. | Aug 27 16:34 |
| gnufreex | lol | Aug 27 16:35 |
| schestowitz | [fosspatents] On MPEG's extension of free web video license: their terms are commercially OK. There are *far* bigger patent problems than MPEG.] | Aug 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* Like .NET, Floyd? | Aug 27 16:40 |
| gnufreex | Haha | Aug 27 16:41 |
| gnufreex | Where he said that? | Aug 27 16:42 |
| gnufreex | aha, I found it | Aug 27 16:42 |
| gnufreex | Floyd : Wow: Red Hat stock approaching $135 -- sorry, I got confused, that was December 1999. Strike that "1" or talk to SAP about it ;-) | Aug 27 16:44 |
| gnufreex | He sure hates Red Hat | Aug 27 16:44 |
| gnufreex | Two words: Stock Split! | Aug 27 16:44 |
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| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: I noticed on one of the reports about Reverb today that it said they never got fined | Aug 27 16:45 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Sony Halts Sales of PS3 Jailbreak Dongle http://bit.ly/bMT98e | Aug 27 16:45 | |
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| ThistleWeb | dunno if that's true or not | Aug 27 16:45 |
| schestowitz | They settled | Aug 27 16:45 |
| schestowitz | WHich means they paid something | Aug 27 16:45 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah I know they settled | Aug 27 16:46 |
| schestowitz | Like Microsoft to many parties | Aug 27 16:46 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if they got shamed or advertised for this | Aug 27 16:46 |
| schestowitz | Now they can offer other services and use this whole thing as publicity | Aug 27 16:46 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather see some exec sent to a cell | Aug 27 16:46 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @atbennett: Does your boss say "um"? How to tell if someone's lying http://bit.ly/afT1nC | Aug 27 16:48 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Upgrading to Windows 7 isn't Cheap http://bit.ly/c1cNbt in the corporate world by @sjvn #Windows | Aug 27 16:48 | |
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| cubevector | heh, I just bought a p3 recently for 20 bucks | Aug 27 16:51 |
| cubevector | you just can't compare windows to linux | Aug 27 16:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] DCC, Bittorrent and Usenet – Is Bittorrent so great? http://tinyurl.com/3a4ba4s !bittorrent !usenet !dcc !tpb !piracy !p2p | Aug 27 16:52 | |
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| cubevector | this VL6 box is more responsive than any windows box | Aug 27 16:52 |
| cubevector | even when I'm running ffmpeg in the background as a niced process it's still fine for browsing | Aug 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | 2 KB | Aug 27 16:58 |
| schestowitz | [16:33] <cubevector> really who cares what the var guy says | Aug 27 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Exactly | Aug 27 16:59 |
| schestowitz | One scored | Aug 27 16:59 |
| schestowitz | 499 to go :-) | Aug 27 16:59 |
| schestowitz | How many Fortooon 500 companies moved from Microsoft to other stuff? | Aug 27 16:59 |
| cubevector | I mostly agree with sjvn | Aug 27 16:59 |
| schestowitz | It's more like an advert when an article is based on just one company | Aug 27 16:59 |
| cubevector | a lot I'd imagine | Aug 27 16:59 |
| schestowitz | sjvn seems to have turned his account into a boosting ops for Dell | Aug 27 16:59 |
| schestowitz | I don't quite like it | Aug 27 17:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Neutralitatea Internetului - este nevoie să ACȚIONAȚI ! #romania #netneutrality | Aug 27 17:12 | |
| sebsebseb | So schestowitz I read your OMG!Mono blog entry lastnight/thismorning | Aug 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | and I was thinking | Aug 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | well I have a question for you | Aug 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: If Micosoft are going to go after distros that use Mono and patent sue, well does it really matter that much, I mean surely distros such as Fedora that refuse to use Mono will live on? | Aug 27 17:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Neutralitatea Internetului - este nevoie să ACȚIONAȚI ! http://is.gd/eGTtw #romania #netneutrality | Aug 27 17:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #gwibber What has changed with today's !gwibber daily #ppa update? This is another one that's left me guessing. | Aug 27 17:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RomiMaier: RT @nytimesbits: The open source alternative to Facebook says it will open its doors in three weeks. ^JW http://p2.to/X3d | Aug 27 17:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Neutralitatea Internetului: este nevoie să acționați ! | Blogul lui Răzvan .::. Size~: 66.53 KB | Aug 27 17:17 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and Canonical is about making money now, and if Microsoft are going to go after Canonical for using Mono in Ubuntu, because of software patents, surely they will do it when Ubuntu has much more users and Canonical is actsaully making a profit, if they are going to bother? After all Mono helps bring #C to other platforms, and so helps to lock people into Microsoft products even on other platforms, and Microsoft really does like | Aug 27 17:19 |
| sebsebseb | its vender lock in. | Aug 27 17:19 |
| *sebsebseb waits for a reply from schestowitz or anyone else who read this | Aug 27 17:19 | |
| sebsebseb | who reads this, even | Aug 27 17:19 |
| sebsebseb | thats currently in the channel | Aug 27 17:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK I've read about #Facebook lists and now it's obvious to me what they're for. For me, they're absolutely useless. So many #fb tools are. | Aug 27 17:22 | |
| sebsebseb | and most end users of distros such as Ubuntu, won't care what software is programmed in, unless for example, Microsoft start patent sueing, because of Mono, and so apps that a lot of them being effected, such as Banshee, F-Spot, Gnome Do, and it seems Zeitgest as well. So as a result, a negative could be twisted round in to a postive, that teachs people that they shoudn't trust Microsoft, or programs such as Mono. | Aug 27 17:22 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Pentagon Official Reveals Computer Security Breach... As Part Of Effort To Get More Power Over Critical Infrastructure? http://dlvr.it/4LB5Q | Aug 27 17:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @rcweir: Scary. A peak at the industry's "wish list" for copyright expansion, what we get if our vigilance wanes. http://bit.ly/9FTyg2 | Aug 27 17:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] State of Virginia Technology Centers Down http://bit.ly/9ZXupR | Aug 27 17:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Overheard in the Newsroom #5778: Copy editor: “My computer just crashed so hard Bill Gates thought he was in an earthquake.” | Aug 27 17:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @rikkikite: Mozilla & Shuttleworth Foundation's Education for the Open Web Fellowship deadline extended to Oct. 17: http://is.gd/eGQq8 | Aug 27 17:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @MitchWagner: Gmail voice chat works, http://ow.ly/2vNWO | Aug 27 17:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Katherine Egbert, who had been FUDing #RedHat for FOUR years, if changing her tune http://ur1.ca/1b7l1 #analyst #fail #lie | Aug 27 17:23 | |
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| sebsebseb | and so apps that a lot of them like, above | Aug 27 17:23 |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: gnufreex jono Anyone about? | Aug 27 17:24 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb | Aug 27 17:24 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector cubezzz | Aug 27 17:24 |
| *sebsebseb lets not highlight more people :D | Aug 27 17:25 | |
| jono | sebsebseb, I am busy | Aug 27 17:25 |
| sebsebseb | jono: oh ok, sorry for the highlight then, I guess | Aug 27 17:26 |
| jono | np | Aug 27 17:26 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: hi | Aug 27 17:27 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: ok hi | Aug 27 17:27 |
| sebsebseb | got a response for the above? | Aug 27 17:27 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Nanoresonators Create Ultra-High-Res Displays http://bit.ly/bfGP0f | Aug 27 17:28 | |
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| _Goblin | I agree...most end-users (average jo) could care less....even the patent threat, they have no understanding/interest of... | Aug 27 17:28 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: well yeah exactly | Aug 27 17:28 |
| sebsebseb | and people can boycott using Mono, but | Aug 27 17:29 |
| sebsebseb | loads still will, because they like apps that were made using it | Aug 27 17:29 |
| _Goblin | the question they ask is "Do I like it?" - if the answer is yes, it matters to them not what its dependent on... | Aug 27 17:29 |
| sebsebseb | and if Microsoft do start trying to patent sue Mono | Aug 27 17:29 |
| sebsebseb | well | Aug 27 17:29 |
| sebsebseb | thats going to make a lot of people dislike Microsoft even more | Aug 27 17:29 |
| _Goblin | I think this is why Ubuntu hits the mainstream audience and your more fussy distro's do not....Im not saying either ethos is right or wrong , but I think people often forget that the vast majority of users just want it to work and really don't care. | Aug 27 17:30 |
| sebsebseb | including average Ubuntu end users, if they find out about this, and that apps that they love, were made using this Mono thing | Aug 27 17:30 |
| gnufreex | Those who make apps in Mono are also guilty. | Aug 27 17:30 |
| gnufreex | I mean companies | Aug 27 17:30 |
| gnufreex | Not random hackers | Aug 27 17:30 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: DId you see humphreybc's post ongubuntu from a while back now | Aug 27 17:31 |
| gnufreex | Companies are puting free software in danger, and they are breaking comunity.... for what? | Aug 27 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | that got at a lot of people? | Aug 27 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | he had some interesting points | Aug 27 17:31 |
| _Goblin | I don't see devs flocking to Mono, I see no mission critical apps written in it, I think if and when Mono becomes a problem for Linux, distros that use it will be well prepared to move away.,... | Aug 27 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: for making money when it comes to Canonical | Aug 27 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: and they are trying to bring opensource/freesoftware to the masses, but whilst making a profit | Aug 27 17:31 |
| _Goblin | my problem with Mono is that its yet another dev platform (and layer of bloat) to add to a system. | Aug 27 17:32 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: How Mono can make money when it is patent encumbered, while Python for example is not? | Aug 27 17:32 |
| gnufreex | Why chose Mono over Python? | Aug 27 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | good question | Aug 27 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | maybe since | Aug 27 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | #C is more popular since .NET? | Aug 27 17:33 |
| gnufreex | You can make more money with Python, because you don't have to worry about Microsoft | Aug 27 17:33 |
| sebsebseb | lets take educational establishments not that many teach Python | Aug 27 17:33 |
| sebsebseb | loads teach .NET though | Aug 27 17:33 |
| gnufreex | C# is not popular in open source communty | Aug 27 17:33 |
| gnufreex | Canonical and Novell are trying to make it popular | Aug 27 17:33 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu isn't the only distro | Aug 27 17:33 |
| sebsebseb | that comes with F-Spot | Aug 27 17:33 |
| sebsebseb | ok soon they are going to replace F-Spot with Shotwell, but my point is, they aren't the only distro that comes with at least one Mono app | Aug 27 17:34 |
| gnufreex | Ubunut and SuSe | Aug 27 17:34 |
| gnufreex | We know who is behind SUSE | Aug 27 17:34 |
| gnufreex | Ubuntu needs to make a stand | Aug 27 17:35 |
| gnufreex | Either they are with Microsoft | Aug 27 17:35 |
| sebsebseb | all teh popular Mono apps can be replaced with something else really though, but even so, people like them, including me, when it comes to F-Spot and Banshee. I mean they are good apps, but they could have been programmed with something more Desktop LInux friendly instead, but no. | Aug 27 17:35 |
| gnufreex | Or with Free Software World | Aug 27 17:35 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: Ubuntu/Canonical don't mind propritary software though, yes Mono stuff isn't propritary software, but in a way it sort of is | Aug 27 17:36 |
| sebsebseb | I mean | Aug 27 17:36 |
| sebsebseb | for example | Aug 27 17:36 |
| sebsebseb | the Software Centre in 10.10 will offer at least one commercial app for sale | Aug 27 17:36 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Meeting in 25mins in Berkeley for the Ubuntu Global Jam! http://is.gd/eDRnS #ubuntu #locoteams #ugl | Aug 27 17:37 | |
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| gnufreex | That is different, propriatary (!, not compercial) app in Software center is from somebody else, not Canoncal | Aug 27 17:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #gwibber One change I notice in today's !gwibber update is, its broken Twitter Lists. Ah well. Back to the drawing board. | Aug 27 17:37 | |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: well sure, but the back end of Ubuntu One is closed source, and Launchpad used to be | Aug 27 17:38 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: and with their copy right assignment | Aug 27 17:39 |
| gnufreex | I see propriatary apps as a stop gap solution for those weenies who complain about not having this or that... so it is acceptable, just to keep them quiet... if it is not Mono app. | Aug 27 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: other distros are a bit I think the word is wary, about using Canonical stuff | Aug 27 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: most Ubuntu users seem to want their WIndows apps ported over, such as Photoshop | Aug 27 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | they don't really care or understand about freedom properly | Aug 27 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | they just want an alternative to Windows | Aug 27 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | that doesn't just get viruse infected and that, and that is good to use | Aug 27 17:39 |
| gnufreex | Yes, they have vague contributor agreement, | Aug 27 17:39 |
| gnufreex | And they are not making people understand the idea of free software... | Aug 27 17:40 |
| gnufreex | Ubuntu is dissaster IMO | Aug 27 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | yes there is certain things that only propritary software can currently do, but I don't really need any of that stuff personalley so :D | Aug 27 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: the 10.10 installer, will have an option for installing the codecs as well | Aug 27 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | well yes it has already in development | Aug 27 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | not sure if it works properly yet | Aug 27 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: well maybe its just the codec for MP3, not sure exactly | Aug 27 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | the average end user, coudn't really care much about software freedom, if started to explain to them | Aug 27 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | really what they want is | Aug 27 17:42 |
| gnufreex | Well, I moved away from Ubuntu anyways, so I don't care. I will stop recomending it to other people too. | Aug 27 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | good apps that are free as in price, and it doesn't matter if they are open source or freesoftware, to them | Aug 27 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: yeah same here | Aug 27 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | I have moved away from it | Aug 27 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Aug 27 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: I like taking part in some of the community stuff still, such as jon o 's ustreams and Ubuntu Open Week | Aug 27 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | and I am a support person so uhmm | Aug 27 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | I like helping people with the software side of their computer, so uhmm | Aug 27 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | I will still sometimes help in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-beginners even though, I am not that keen on the distro anymore | Aug 27 17:43 |
| gnufreex | Linsux.org people chose Ubuntu with a reason. It is populated with clueless persons top to bottom, so they beleive in their crap. | Aug 27 17:44 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I suppouse better people using Ubuntu than Windows? well maybe not quite, I mean sometimes Windows is better for someone to be honest? or at least if they secure it properly enough? | Aug 27 17:44 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: yeah exactly loads of noobs | Aug 27 17:44 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: and even a lot of the people who have used it for like, four years, don't really know much about it | Aug 27 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | and help out enough in #ubuntu and we get loved heh heh in a way | Aug 27 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: however thing is | Aug 27 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | for people like us, who know Desktop Linux, oh its great, loads of distros to choose from | Aug 27 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | and | Aug 27 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | we are educated, we know what we want, and what Desktop Linux can and can't do, so we can make a nice educated decision on a distro | Aug 27 17:46 |
| sebsebseb | for a new user, well no they aren't yet, hopefuly they will become, but with Ubuntu uhmm, a lot become fan boys instead | Aug 27 17:46 |
| sebsebseb | for quite a long time it seems | Aug 27 17:46 |
| sebsebseb | and some won't even try another distro any time soon :( | Aug 27 17:47 |
| gnufreex | If newbie goes to Ubuntu, it will most likely become n00b | Aug 27 17:47 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah most Ubuntu users won't really know about upsteram, so will love all these changes that Canonical are doing to Ubuntu downstream, yes I mean the Gnome patching and what not | Aug 27 17:47 |
| gnufreex | So I decided not to recomend Ubuntu anymore because of that. | Aug 27 17:47 |
| sebsebseb | What do you mean exactly, if they go to Ubuntu they will most likely become n00b ? | Aug 27 17:48 |
| gnufreex | Ubunut community values shalowness and ignorance. | Aug 27 17:48 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Great Severed Fifth rehearsal last night - progress is being made, bolts are getting tightened. More on Saturday, bring it! #severedfifth | Aug 27 17:48 | |
| sebsebseb | and well yeah Ubuntu is the most popular distro on the desktop, and so even if we don't like it fully anymore, its still something to talk about | Aug 27 17:48 |
| gnufreex | People are not learning when they get Ubuntu | Aug 27 17:48 |
| sebsebseb | as Desktop LInux users, I mean | Aug 27 17:48 |
| gnufreex | They get thought that Linux is scary, Ubuntu is easy | Aug 27 17:48 |
| gnufreex | ANd Ubunut somehow is not Linux | Aug 27 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva and PC Linux OS is much more easy | Aug 27 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | since the nice graphical control centre :) | Aug 27 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | theres this idea that Ubuntu is the most user friendly disto, oh yeah see above, also Mint is more user friendly I guess | Aug 27 17:49 |
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| sebsebseb | gnufreex: really Ubuntu should be a stepping stone distro, start with it, and move on to others | Aug 27 17:51 |
| gnufreex | Yes, but I noticed that Mandriva communiy is different. And Fedora is best. THey kick out Microsofties in the start. | Aug 27 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: it seems Mint is, because a lot of the people that help out there, use other distros | Aug 27 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb is like the only regular user who helps out there that still uses Mint, by the sounds of it | Aug 27 17:51 |
| gnufreex | It looks like is not stepping stone. It is more like a glue. | Aug 27 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: yeah bingo exactly | Aug 27 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | its like a glue now | Aug 27 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | which is ashame since its really uh now | Aug 27 17:52 |
| gnufreex | Those who get into Ubuntu thik that Mac Shuttleworth invented Linux | Aug 27 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | most users have no idea though | Aug 27 17:52 |
| gnufreex | And look no further | Aug 27 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | and that brings back this question | Aug 27 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | Is it really better for loads and loads and loads and loads of computer users, to be using Ubuntu, instead of Windows or Mac OS X? | Aug 27 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | well in fact, most users still have a reason to dual boot with Windows, since Ubuntu can't quite replace Windows for them | Aug 27 17:53 |
| sebsebseb | or yeah they have WIndows on another computer as well | Aug 27 17:53 |
| gnufreex | I think it is still beter than Windows and OSX, but it won't be for much further if things continue going south at this pace. | Aug 27 17:54 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: and yeah as schestowitz basically said to me before, when I was on about a Ask Mark session for Ubuntu Open Week, he basically said that Ubuntu users see Mark Shuttleworth as a kind of God. | Aug 27 17:54 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: exactly things are going down hill now really big time | Aug 27 17:55 |
| sebsebseb | well the desktop version of Ubuntu anyway | Aug 27 17:55 |
| sebsebseb | I mean the netbook will be much better it seems, becasue of Unity | Aug 27 17:55 |
| sebsebseb | for 10.10 | Aug 27 17:55 |
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| sebsebseb | gnufreex: maybe he read some of this and left :D | Aug 27 17:55 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: he has to say that all the Ubuntu changes are great and such, even if he doesn't really think so, because of his job. | Aug 27 17:55 |
| gnufreex | Then he needs to quit his job | Aug 27 17:56 |
| sebsebseb | I did see a video of the new sound applet for 10.10 though lastnight/thismorning and its ok | Aug 27 17:56 |
| gnufreex | He can find a nice job at Red Hat | Aug 27 17:56 |
| gnufreex | Where he doesn't need to be a hipocrite | Aug 27 17:56 |
| sebsebseb | I like Jono, but | Aug 27 17:57 |
| sebsebseb | he has a big role in the Ubuntu hype | Aug 27 17:57 |
| gnufreex | So he set up this crap? | Aug 27 17:57 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: no | Aug 27 17:58 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: What I thought you knew who Jono is? | Aug 27 17:58 |
| gnufreex | I know, | Aug 27 17:58 |
| gnufreex | I am joking | Aug 27 17:58 |
| gnufreex | He is Ubuntu community manager | Aug 27 17:58 |
| gnufreex | Or something like that | Aug 27 17:58 |
| sebsebseb | yes the Ubuntu Community Manager | Aug 27 17:58 |
| sebsebseb | also people who use Kubuntu and Lubuntu and Xubuntu | Aug 27 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | whats the point really? | Aug 27 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu is about Gnome and their changes, there Ubuntu Gnome, I got a good link about that | Aug 27 17:59 |
| gnufreex | Other DE.. | Aug 27 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | yes, but I mean whats the point really | Aug 27 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | since other distros :) | Aug 27 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | the so called Ubuntu advantages, are only in their patched Gnome version | Aug 27 17:59 |
| gnufreex | I think Canonical should drop Mono and see how they can integrate Qt into GNOME | Aug 27 17:59 |
| gnufreex | To look native | Aug 27 18:00 |
| gnufreex | And see how to integrate Java | Aug 27 18:00 |
| gnufreex | There are more Java coders than C# | Aug 27 18:00 |
| gnufreex | Also, things like Scala and Clojure are hot, and you get that for free with JVM | Aug 27 18:01 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: no QT is KDE | Aug 27 18:01 |
| sebsebseb | GTK is Gnome | Aug 27 18:02 |
| sebsebseb | and Gnome 3 will be out in March | Aug 27 18:02 |
| gnufreex | I know | Aug 27 18:02 |
| sebsebseb | unless they delay it for a 3rd time | Aug 27 18:02 |
| sebsebseb | it will be intersting to see how Canonical / Ubuntu developers deal with Gnome 3 | Aug 27 18:02 |
| gnufreex | I was thinking that would be great to integrate Qt into GNOME | Aug 27 18:02 |
| gnufreex | not to base it on Qt | Aug 27 18:02 |
| sebsebseb | anyway read this gnufreex schestowitz _Goblin and other people | Aug 27 18:02 |
| gnufreex | Not to remove GTK | Aug 27 18:03 |
| sebsebseb | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/12068_3900296_1/Ubuntu-1010-Alpha-Slouching-Toward-Ubuntu-GNOME.htm | Aug 27 18:03 |
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| gnufreex | It can be done to look natively, and to do some cross polination with KDE. It have been done in KDE3 days | Aug 27 18:04 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: I like a big channel of people to help with a Linux distro, sadly I don't like the distro that has most of those users that much anymore though | Aug 27 18:04 |
| gnufreex | It is matter of time when Microsofties wil | Aug 27 18:05 |
| sebsebseb | however I can see where Canoncial are coming from as well | Aug 27 18:05 |
| gnufreex | infiltrate in Canonical | Aug 27 18:05 |
| sebsebseb | they want to be main streame | Aug 27 18:05 |
| sebsebseb | and so have to do more stuff on their own really, otherwise Ubuntu will be well very much like a load of other distros | Aug 27 18:05 |
| gnufreex | Canonical tired to be open for anyone. Intruders included | Aug 27 18:05 |
| gnufreex | Open for takover | Aug 27 18:05 |
| gnufreex | *takeover | Aug 27 18:05 |
| sebsebseb | yep Mark Shuttleworth might sell Canonical eventualley | Aug 27 18:06 |
| sebsebseb | well he did sell a previous company he had | Aug 27 18:06 |
| sebsebseb | or whatever I read before | Aug 27 18:06 |
| gnufreex | I didn't mean that kind takeove. I mant taken over for free. They have no mission. | Aug 27 18:06 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: Anyway so you think, even though Ubuntu is starting to go quite bad really, that its better loads of computer users, use it instead of WIndows at the moment? | Aug 27 18:07 |
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| gnufreex | I honestly don't know. | Aug 27 18:07 |
| cubevector | lots of other distros | Aug 27 18:07 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: indeed, but | Aug 27 18:08 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu is the one that loads of people try first, and then | Aug 27 18:08 |
| sebsebseb | get locked in to, unless they get hardware problems for example, that result with them going back to Windows or Mac OS X | Aug 27 18:08 |
| cubevector | lots of hardware didn't get win2k drivers too | Aug 27 18:08 |
| cubevector | what did people do? | Aug 27 18:08 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: really the people with hardware issues, should be told about other distros, because it seems that most hardware issues that Ubuntu has, for example wireless and sound issues, can be solved by other distros | Aug 27 18:08 |
| gnufreex | I think people should steared to other distros first... if they don't like it, then try Ubuntu | Aug 27 18:09 |
| cubevector | buy more hardware | Aug 27 18:09 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: however thing is there are so many of them, I mean check out #ubuntu | Aug 27 18:09 |
| cubevector | nah, I don't like ubuntu | Aug 27 18:09 |
| sebsebseb | and then of course there is also the forums as well | Aug 27 18:09 |
| cubevector | more flamewars? no thank you :) | Aug 27 18:09 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: I like the sound of that, but thats not how it is | Aug 27 18:10 |
| sebsebseb | people tend to go with what is most popular | Aug 27 18:10 |
| sebsebseb | and thats Ubuntu at the moment when it comes to the desktop | Aug 27 18:10 |
| cubevector | if I want hardware specs, I'll ask the manufacturer | Aug 27 18:10 |
| cubevector | if the manufacturere says no I buy something else | Aug 27 18:10 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu is the face of Desktop Linux as a result, and really its a bad face as well, because of its dodgy hardware support for wireless for example | Aug 27 18:10 |
| cubevector | see, I don't believe it is | Aug 27 18:11 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: I mean for gaining loads of new users | Aug 27 18:11 |
| cubevector | I know tons of people who run Fedora and other systems | Aug 27 18:11 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: right, but not many newbies start with those | Aug 27 18:11 |
| sebsebseb | these days | Aug 27 18:11 |
| cubevector | my newbies don't use ubuntu :) | Aug 27 18:12 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: Your newbies? peopel you know in person? | Aug 27 18:12 |
| cubevector | yes | Aug 27 18:12 |
| sebsebseb | thats the kind of thing I want to do some how, you know go out there, help people with the software side of their computer, and get paid for it | Aug 27 18:12 |
| sebsebseb | ,but how? | Aug 27 18:12 |
| sebsebseb | and yes I am not much of a hardware person, so opening up a computer, and doing stuff in there, isn't really for me | Aug 27 18:13 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: anyway a girl (young lady now even) who I used to go to school with, I might be able to teach some computer stuff to later on :) | Aug 27 18:13 |
| sebsebseb | I think it may have been true when she said she was interested, but can't be quite sure, since this might sound sexist, but well yeah females | Aug 27 18:14 |
| cubevector | I enjoy learning about hardware | Aug 27 18:14 |
| cubevector | http://cubeman.org/hp.txt | Aug 27 18:14 |
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| sebsebseb | and how most of htem aren't really interested in computers, and don't really want to learn as a result | Aug 27 18:14 |
| sebsebseb | since how society is | Aug 27 18:14 |
| sebsebseb | how they have been bought up | Aug 27 18:14 |
| ThistleWeb | some of the logic behind the ubuntu bashing from people from other distros seems baffling | Aug 27 18:15 |
| sebsebseb | Hi ThistleWeb | Aug 27 18:15 |
| ThistleWeb | with so much in life it's about how you do stuff | Aug 27 18:15 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm | Aug 27 18:15 |
| ThistleWeb | hey | Aug 27 18:15 |
| sebsebseb | I am an ex Ubuntu fan boy | Aug 27 18:15 |
| cubevector | I'm not bashing any Linux distro | Aug 27 18:15 |
| cubevector | Ubuntu is better than windows | Aug 27 18:15 |
| sebsebseb | and any negative Ubuntu stuff I say, is based on fact | Aug 27 18:15 |
| sebsebseb | stuff that acstaully happens | Aug 27 18:15 |
| ThistleWeb | when people from say arch, fedora etc bash ubuntu it's crazy | Aug 27 18:15 |
| cubevector | use whatever you like is my motto | Aug 27 18:16 |
| ThistleWeb | first, that ubuntu user was probs a windows or osx user who has moved to linux, although they'd rather it wasnt ubuntu | Aug 27 18:16 |
| ThistleWeb | second, the mass of users that ubuntu have to deal with does leave many who feel they cant get answers | Aug 27 18:16 |
| ThistleWeb | they also see the attacks on ubuntu | Aug 27 18:16 |
| cubevector | if you are a ./configure; make all; make install person you don't care too much about specific distros | Aug 27 18:17 |
| ThistleWeb | if they saw that say fedora users didnt tend to bash others, whats the chances that they may actually explore fedora? | Aug 27 18:17 |
| ThistleWeb | they may get into a distro becasue of the freindlyness of the community | Aug 27 18:17 |
| ThistleWeb | or the responsiveness in getting help | Aug 27 18:18 |
| cubevector | #linuxhelp is pretty friendly | Aug 27 18:18 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: the community is important | Aug 27 18:18 |
| sebsebseb | I think | Aug 27 18:18 |
| sebsebseb | a lot of Ubuntuu users are doing Ubuntu simpalley,because | Aug 27 18:18 |
| sebsebseb | the community is so big | Aug 27 18:18 |
| sebsebseb | the biggest | Aug 27 18:18 |
| cubevector | we are interdenominational :0 | Aug 27 18:18 |
| ThistleWeb | the few times I've been to the ubuntu channel, theres a LOT of people asking a lot of questions, in a fast ,oving channel | Aug 27 18:18 |
| gnufreex | Ubuntu tries to segregate community like Novell tried | Aug 27 18:18 |
| ThistleWeb | plenty of forum posts seem to go unanswered | Aug 27 18:18 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: well yes, but theres also this less known smaller channel #ubuntu-beginners | Aug 27 18:18 |
| ThistleWeb | which means the other distro can attract them by being friendlier | Aug 27 18:19 |
| ThistleWeb | and more responsive | Aug 27 18:19 |
| gnufreex | Other distro's are not going to use Canonical owned software | Aug 27 18:19 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: also this is why a lot of people aren't so keen on Ubuntu these days one of the reasons. http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/12068_3900296_1/Ubuntu-1010-Alpha-Slouching-Toward-Ubuntu-GNOME.htm | Aug 27 18:19 |
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| gnufreex | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd | Aug 27 18:19 |
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| gnufreex | Nope, no packages for Ubuntu. Go figure. | Aug 27 18:19 |
| cubevector | but what if you're an older person with a 486? | Aug 27 18:19 |
| gnufreex | Scroll down | Aug 27 18:19 |
| cubevector | then Ubuntu isn't really too good | Aug 27 18:19 |
| ThistleWeb | they do veto some ideas too yes | Aug 27 18:20 |
| cubevector | but I could get them on BL3 | Aug 27 18:20 |
| gnufreex | Ubunut has more chance to succed in breaking community because they have horde of clueless people | Aug 27 18:20 |
| cubevector | I'm running 4 different distros | Aug 27 18:20 |
| gnufreex | For example, Mac Shuttleworth lied that Red Hat is propiratary company | Aug 27 18:21 |
| cubevector | each has it's place | Aug 27 18:21 |
| gnufreex | Now everybody thinks that is true | Aug 27 18:21 |
| gnufreex | I mean ubuntu dudes | Aug 27 18:21 |
| gnufreex | They say Red Hat makes money from closed soruce Windows software | Aug 27 18:21 |
| gnufreex | And Canonical is open source company. | Aug 27 18:22 |
| gnufreex | Truth is oposite. | Aug 27 18:22 |
| cubevector | pffft :) | Aug 27 18:22 |
| ThistleWeb | most of what canonical does is open | Aug 27 18:22 |
| gnufreex | Canonical Landscape is closed source, and Canonical makes money from that | Aug 27 18:22 |
| ThistleWeb | not all, but most | Aug 27 18:22 |
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| gnufreex | All Red Hat does is open source | Aug 27 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: Its good to have people who will educat newbies to whatever distro, about Desktop Linux in general | Aug 27 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: sadly not many people out there like me | Aug 27 18:23 |
| ThistleWeb | I thought they had some closed tools in the enterprise edition that weren't in like centos | Aug 27 18:23 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] NC State Senator Admits Broadband Companies Wrote His Bill & Says He 'Carries Water' For Companies http://dlvr.it/4LJh3 | Aug 27 18:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Armed America: Portraits of Gun Owners in Their Homes http://is.gd/eH0RB For better or for worse, welcome to the USA. | Aug 27 18:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Just as I told you all - now it's child abuse: http://is.gd/eH0YR #assange #predictable #smear | Aug 27 18:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] In passing on my guns/US post, I feel I should note I don't even remember learning how to shoot. My first memory of using firearms was at 7. | Aug 27 18:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @estherschindler: RIP Stan Veit, founder of Computer Shopper (where I wrote my first paid article) http://bit.ly/apV17R Me: Great guy. | Aug 27 18:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[_the_mad_hatter] I subscribed to filkertom's channel on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/user/filkertom?feature=autoshare | Aug 27 18:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Think of the children! http://is.gd/eH0YR #belgium | Aug 27 18:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot News Story | PR Firm Settles With FTC On Fake Game Reviews .::. Size~: 60.52 KB | Aug 27 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NC State Senator Admits Broadband Companies Wrote His Bill & Says He 'Carries Water' For Companies | Techdirt .::. Size~: 27.18 KB | Aug 27 18:23 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: STANLEY VEIT Obituary: View STANLEY VEIT's Obituary by FLORIDA TODAY .::. Size~: 57.59 KB | Aug 27 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube- filkertom's Channel .::. Size~: 71.27 KB | Aug 27 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks under fire over child abuse files | Herald Sun .::. Size~: 57.47 KB | Aug 27 18:23 |
| gnufreex | When that ex Red Hat dude said canonical was leeching, he was right. But he applogized on the end | Aug 27 18:23 |
| cubevector | really that bot needs to have a 10 sec delay | Aug 27 18:24 |
| gnufreex | And Mac Shuttleworth didn't take back that Red Hat is propriatary company | Aug 27 18:24 |
| ThistleWeb | do they have closed apps in RHEL? | Aug 27 18:24 |
| gnufreex | No | Aug 27 18:24 |
| ThistleWeb | really? | Aug 27 18:24 |
| gnufreex | All is open source | Aug 27 18:24 |
| gnufreex | Really | Aug 27 18:24 |
| gnufreex | All is reproduced in CentOS | Aug 27 18:24 |
| ThistleWeb | I thought they kept a few back | Aug 27 18:24 |
| gnufreex | CentOS is same as RHEL | Aug 27 18:25 |
| gnufreex | minus the trademark | Aug 27 18:25 |
| gnufreex | There is nothing propriatary in RHEL | Aug 27 18:25 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Looking for a job in Open Source? Here's your new default bookmark: http://linux-lancers.com/ #jobs #FOSS | Aug 27 18:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Lancers .::. Size~: 11.42 KB | Aug 27 18:25 |
| gnufreex | Same goes for JBoss. | Aug 27 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: Ubuntu has a lot of fan boys, heres a good place to see them :D http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Aug 27 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 91.89 KB | Aug 27 18:25 |
| cubevector | yeah well... | Aug 27 18:26 |
| cubevector | I'm a Unix System V fan :) | Aug 27 18:26 |
| cubevector | neiner neiner | Aug 27 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | and #ubuntu is ok for basic questions in general | Aug 27 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | however its mainly the ops, and a few main helpers, who help out in there, at the moment | Aug 27 18:27 |
| ThistleWeb | the traditional approach of attracting customers by doing your stuff better seems to be out of fashion, the trendy thing is have a pop at the competition | Aug 27 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | or to use patents :D | Aug 27 18:27 |
| cubevector | there was a time, not very long ago when there was no Ubuntu, no GNOME and no KDE | Aug 27 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | if USA | Aug 27 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | well that was like a sarcasm :D | Aug 27 18:28 |
| cubevector | see, we can live without all of those | Aug 27 18:28 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm wondering if that's what we've learned form the corps | Aug 27 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | oh attracting | Aug 27 18:28 |
| cubevector | I have two Linux boxes with no GNOME and no KDE | Aug 27 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | well anyway yeah they don't really play fair a lot of these companies | Aug 27 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | they don't try to compete properly against each ot her | Aug 27 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | in USA, they use patents | Aug 27 18:28 |
| ThistleWeb | we complain all the time about corps who hate the idea of competing | Aug 27 18:28 |
| ThistleWeb | just bash the competition | Aug 27 18:29 |
| ThistleWeb | queu the ubuntu hate | Aug 27 18:29 |
| ThistleWeb | queue* | Aug 27 18:29 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: So if not Ubuntu, what distro will you get a newbie using instead, and why? | Aug 27 18:29 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: What about your newbies, what do they run and why? | Aug 27 18:29 |
| cubevector | Fedora or VL | Aug 27 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Aug 27 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | why? | Aug 27 18:30 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: I am using Fedora mostly | Aug 27 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah VL seems ok for newbies, from what I read not that long ago | Aug 27 18:30 |
| cubevector | well mainly because they bought a laptop from me and I know more about Fedora than any other distro | Aug 27 18:30 |
| gnufreex | For newbies | Aug 27 18:30 |
| gnufreex | .... i don't know | Aug 27 18:30 |
| gnufreex | Fedora is to raw | Aug 27 18:30 |
| cubevector | ok then VL | Aug 27 18:31 |
| gnufreex | Debian is great | Aug 27 18:31 |
| ThistleWeb | distros you install for newbies is like phone networks, give them what you use, as you'll be the point of support for a while until they find their feet | Aug 27 18:31 |
| gnufreex | What is VL? | Aug 27 18:31 |
| cubevector | VectorLinux | Aug 27 18:31 |
| gnufreex | VectorLinux? | Aug 27 18:31 |
| gnufreex | Hah | Aug 27 18:31 |
| ThistleWeb | if all your mates are on vodaphone, it makes sense for you to be on vodaphone too | Aug 27 18:31 |
| gnufreex | I didn't try that one for some time | Aug 27 18:31 |
| gnufreex | Debian is great | Aug 27 18:31 |
| ThistleWeb | or chat networks, msn, aim, yahoo etc | Aug 27 18:31 |
| gnufreex | But some people want all new | Aug 27 18:31 |
| gnufreex | Coerctly set up Debian is great for total newbies | Aug 27 18:32 |
| gnufreex | Who don't know anything about computers | Aug 27 18:32 |
| gnufreex | So they don't ask for new software. | Aug 27 18:32 |
| cubevector | there is naim and amsn | Aug 27 18:33 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @estherschindler: Cut Costs and Cabling By Converging your Networks by Rick Cook http://ow.ly/2vQLQ | Aug 27 18:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cut Costs and Cabling By Converging your Networks | Dell .::. Size~: 29.7 KB | Aug 27 18:33 |
| cubevector | that covers a lot of ground | Aug 27 18:33 |
| gnufreex | Did anyone saw what is on the bottom of systemD download page? | Aug 27 18:34 |
| gnufreex | "Nope, no packages for Ubuntu. Go figure. " | Aug 27 18:34 |
| cubevector | systemD? | Aug 27 18:34 |
| gnufreex | That is Upstart replacement | Aug 27 18:34 |
| gnufreex | And init replacement | Aug 27 18:34 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @jzb: I couldn't resist any longer: Writing ledes, writing for feeds: http://bit.ly/94inzh (A short rant on bad ledes, & how to avoid) | Aug 27 18:35 | |
| gnufreex | Nobody wan't Upstart because they have to deal with Canonical | Aug 27 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Writing ledes, writing for feeds& | Dissociated Press .::. Size~: 29.25 KB | Aug 27 18:35 |
| cubevector | I'm pretty used to Unix Sys V style | Aug 27 18:35 |
| cubevector | I like to be able to do stuff like /sbin/chkconfig --level 345 sshd on | Aug 27 18:37 |
| cubevector | BSD stuff really | Aug 27 18:38 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] How to Choose a Desktop Linux Distribution http://is.gd/eH2xb Nice beginner intro. | Aug 27 18:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to Choose a Desktop Linux Distribution - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 66.68 KB | Aug 27 18:39 |
| cubevector | I don't think everything needs replaced | Aug 27 18:39 |
| gnufreex | SysV sucks for fast boot... and SSDs are coming. | Aug 27 18:40 |
| cubevector | it's in IRIX and Redhat but not Ubuntu | Aug 27 18:40 |
| gnufreex | There is a need for replacement. | Aug 27 18:41 |
| cubevector | I don't reboot my server very often | Aug 27 18:41 |
| gnufreex | systemd is compatible with SysV | Aug 27 18:41 |
| gnufreex | Upstart isn't | Aug 27 18:41 |
| cubevector | which distros have systemd? | Aug 27 18:42 |
| gnufreex | Fedora 14 will have it. | Aug 27 18:42 |
| gnufreex | And it will spread from there | Aug 27 18:42 |
| cubevector | evenutally I'll try it | Aug 27 18:45 |
| cubevector | I'll still run 2.2 though :) | Aug 27 18:46 |
| MinceR | 2.2 on Fedora 14? | Aug 27 18:46 |
| MinceR | fat chance. :> | Aug 27 18:46 |
| cubevector | not Fedora 14 smartie :) | Aug 27 18:46 |
| cubevector | on my eternal 486 | Aug 27 18:46 |
| cubevector | I run old on old hardware | Aug 27 18:47 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Company Presses Your Ashes Into Vinyl When You Die http://bit.ly/aB3bQ2 | Aug 27 18:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Idle Story | Company Presses Your Ashes Into Vinyl When You Die .::. Size~: 35.36 KB | Aug 27 18:49 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, the RIAA will insist on representing you ^^ | Aug 27 18:50 |
| gnufreex | <MinceR> 2.2 on Fedora 14? | Aug 27 18:50 |
| gnufreex | What 2.2 ? | Aug 27 18:50 |
| ThistleWeb | gnome | Aug 27 18:50 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm guessing | Aug 27 18:50 |
| cubevector | BL3 | Aug 27 18:50 |
| cubevector | what else runs on 16 megs of ram? | Aug 27 18:50 |
| gnufreex | BL3? | Aug 27 18:51 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] The CIO and Patent Lawsuits, by @sjvn. In short: You're hosed. http://ow.ly/2vRAn #cio #legal #patents #AReallyBadDayAtWork | Aug 27 18:51 | |
| cubevector | Basic Linux 3 | Aug 27 18:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The CIO and Patent Lawsuits | Dell .::. Size~: 24.86 KB | Aug 27 18:51 |
| cubevector | BL3 with icewm | Aug 27 18:51 |
| ThistleWeb | tinycore looks funky | Aug 27 18:51 |
| MinceR | gnufreex: Linux? | Aug 27 18:51 |
| cubevector | here... check it out: | Aug 27 18:51 |
| cubevector | http://cubexyz.blogspot.com | Aug 27 18:51 |
| gnufreex | Aha... I am running Damn Small Linux on that kind of machines. | Aug 27 18:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Notes on Linux .::. Size~: 31.89 KB | Aug 27 18:51 |
| cubevector | interesting, OpenBSd had some Xerox code | Aug 27 18:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Check this video out - Lula preocupado com prejuízo eleitoral e Sérgio Cabral xingando menino d... youtube.com/watch?v=KOKS_a… via @youtube | Aug 27 18:57 | |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: anyway yeah | Aug 27 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: like you were saying #ubuntu full of noobs | Aug 27 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: I was just doing something in there | Aug 27 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: yeah mainly noobs, some people that aren't | Aug 27 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | that type in there | Aug 27 19:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mairin ♺ @osc: inkscape review http://ur1.ca/1bb2m from http://libregraphicsworld.org !fedoradesign | Aug 27 19:12 | |
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| cubevector | arklinux looks interesting sebsebseb | Aug 27 19:16 |
| cubevector | might be worth a look | Aug 27 19:16 |
| cubevector | http://www.arklinux.org/ | Aug 27 19:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ark Linux | Easy enough for Newbies, Great for Power Users .::. Size~: 16.73 KB | Aug 27 19:16 |
| schestowitz | [17:16] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: If Micosoft are going to go after distros that use Mono and patent sue, well does it really matter that much, I mean surely distros such as Fedora that refuse to use Mono will live on? | Aug 27 19:17 |
| schestowitz | It's an API control problem, swpats are secondary | Aug 27 19:17 |
| MinceR | if such distros will exist, that is | Aug 27 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Sorry was away for dinner, didn't see your stuff till now | Aug 27 19:18 |
| MinceR | if every distro accepts mono then every distro will die | Aug 27 19:18 |
| cubevector | do any of the BSDs use Mono? | Aug 27 19:18 |
| gnufreex | Mono got its name aftem monkey.... but I don't buy that. It is atempt to implant Microsoft MONOculture in free world. | Aug 27 19:19 |
| gnufreex | If everybody uses Mono, then when Microsoft kill it, they will just switch to Windows because Windows will still have .NET | Aug 27 19:20 |
| gnufreex | And those who stay will go underground and call Linux illegal hacker toy | Aug 27 19:20 |
| gnufreex | Because Mono would be illegal. | Aug 27 19:21 |
| MinceR | Mononucleosis, Monomania, Monopoly, Monoculture | Aug 27 19:23 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[_the_mad_hatter] Open Bytes article – ‘DCC, Bittorrent and Usenet – Is Bittorrent so great?’ – is Tim wrong? http://bit.ly/ajurwF | Aug 27 19:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ruiseabra] RT @graziano thanks to a #redhat hacker Glibc Is Finally Free Software: http://2tu.us/2lyy #fsf #gnu | Aug 27 19:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @Futocop: Dutch Green Left party has concerns about the ACTA Treaty http://tinyurl.com/3xbxbtg | Aug 27 19:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] State Senator Admits Cable Industry Helped Write Pro-Industry Legislation http://bit.ly/94Cn96 | Aug 27 19:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] ♺ @cdibona: Sadly, we won't be able to attend JavaONE. For reasons why, see here: http://bit.ly/9Oq0qR :: well...nice one, Oracle. :-/ | Aug 27 19:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Thompson spreading FUD about the effects of the TV licence being scrapped or cut #BBC | Aug 27 19:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] The BBC are funded under the guise of public service broadcaster while behaving like a commercial broadcaster | Aug 27 19:23 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Code Blog: An update on JavaOne .::. Size~: 76.48 KB | Aug 27 19:23 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] All companies are talking about 3G video calling features ! What is the format and standards for this? are they talking abt SIP over 3G ? | Aug 27 19:25 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Open Rights Group on why ACTA is an international threat to freedom and liberty. http://bit.ly/apPhwJ | Aug 27 19:25 | |
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| gnufreex | So Roland McGrath took Sun RPC from usenet... | Aug 27 19:25 |
| gnufreex | Imagine that this issue was draged over to Oracle | Aug 27 19:25 |
| gnufreex | IMagine that it wasn't resloved by Sun? | Aug 27 19:26 |
| gnufreex | They would sue Ulrich Dreeper... haha. Not like that is bad thing... | Aug 27 19:26 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Support for the licence fee is as high or higher than in the 80s? Bullshit #BBC | Aug 27 19:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Don Henley Still Really Confused: Actually Claims Copyright Office Is Not An Advocate For Copyright Holders http://dlvr.it/4LQsS | Aug 27 19:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Don Henley Still Really Confused: Actually Claims Copyright Office Is Not An Advocate For Copyright Holders | Techdirt .::. Size~: 33.36 KB | Aug 27 19:32 |
| *jono has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | Aug 27 19:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] If the BBC really thought people backed them, they wouldnt fear having to fund thmesleves, as people would queue to sign up and pay | Aug 27 19:35 | |
| schestowitz | [17:31] <sebsebseb> _Goblin: DId you see humphreybc's post ongubuntu from a while back now | Aug 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz | It was written by a hipster, I didn't read it | Aug 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Something with cartoons and "neckbeards" | Aug 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz | OMG!Kids's Blog | Aug 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz | [17:31] <_Goblin> I don't see devs flocking to Mono, I see no mission critical apps written in it | Aug 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz | No???? | Aug 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Gbrainy!?!?! | Aug 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz | [17:33] <gnufreex> Canonical and Novell are trying to make it popular | Aug 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Not Canonical | Aug 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Seifo (??) from OMG does not work for thewm | Aug 27 19:39 |
| schestowitz | SO maybe Ubuntu | Aug 27 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Not Canonical | Aug 27 19:39 |
| schestowitz | [17:36] <sebsebseb> the Software Centre in 10.10 will offer at least one commercial app for sale | Aug 27 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Proprietary, not commercial. ANd it's c#, not #c | Aug 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz | [17:54] <sebsebseb> gnufreex: and yeah as schestowitz basically said to me before, when I was on about a Ask Mark session for Ubuntu Open Week, he basically said that Ubuntu users see Mark Shuttleworth as a kind of God. | Aug 27 19:41 |
| schestowitz | "In God we trust" said the money | Aug 27 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Microsoft to flog the dead horse with $400 million+ ? – Windows Mobile 7 http://tinyurl.com/2wbva3d !windows !microsoft !mvp !mvpbuzz | Aug 27 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | He uses some tactless nym that stands for something with 'benevolent" | Aug 27 19:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft to flog the dead horse with $400 million+ ? Windows Mobile 7 « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 39.85 KB | Aug 27 19:42 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Should adverts for games be forced to show in game footage? Specially with the spec of the consoles today | Aug 27 19:43 | |
| *jono (~jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | jono: no sign of theRyan yet | Aug 27 19:44 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I think that directhex dude works for Canonical | Aug 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | He quit trolling for good, I hope | Aug 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: no, for Oxford U | Aug 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Supprt guy at daytime, Mono booster in Debianbuntu at night | Aug 27 19:45 |
| gnufreex | He is Mono zealot | Aug 27 19:45 |
| jono | schestowitz theRyan - is that is new nick? | Aug 27 19:45 |
| jono | gnufreex, he doesnt | Aug 27 19:46 |
| schestowitz | He called _Goblin a "cun*" for opposing Mono | Aug 27 19:46 |
| schestowitz | He g/f found out | Aug 27 19:46 |
| schestowitz | *his | Aug 27 19:46 |
| schestowitz | sorry for spelling, had some beers | Aug 27 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [18:22] <gnufreex> All Red Hat does is open source | Aug 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz | It also does swpats | Aug 27 19:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @pgralla: Apple tops the IBM security list with the most vulnerabilities http://bit.ly/aeiTdT | Aug 27 19:47 | |
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| gnufreex | Yeah, they dod swpats but it's not like they havea a choice. | Aug 27 19:47 |
| gnufreex | And if they release everything under GPL, then patents are worthles agaisnt free software. Works only against propriatary | Aug 27 19:48 |
| gnufreex | Problem are patents that they didn't productize yet | Aug 27 19:49 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] .Net On Android Is Safe, Says Microsoft http://bit.ly/9AfUHS | Aug 27 19:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Developers Story | .Net On Android Is Safe, Says Microsoft .::. Size~: 50.33 KB | Aug 27 19:49 |
| gnufreex | Those can be used against free software | Aug 27 19:49 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Just as I told you all - now it's child abuse: http://is.gd/eH0YR #smear >some libelling trolls did this to me | Aug 27 19:50 | |
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| schestowitz | [18:24] <cubevector> really that bot needs to have a 10 sec delay | Aug 27 19:55 |
| schestowitz | It's a problem with twitter, the API seems encumbered by heavy loads | Aug 27 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Identica is a lot more reliable than Twitta' | Aug 27 19:56 |
| schestowitz | [18:24] <gnufreex> And Mac Shuttleworth didn't take back that Red Hat is propriatary company | Aug 27 19:56 |
| schestowitz | I don't think he ever owned a Mac. He admires them, but only Mac Asay is a "true believer" | Aug 27 19:57 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer doesn't matter that it's libel, damage already done. Connotation games. | Aug 27 19:57 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @sjvn Armed America: Portraits of Gun Owners in Their Homes http://is.gd/eH0RB For better or for worse, welcome to the USA. | Aug 27 19:57 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Disney, WB Claim Ad Firm Working With Pirate Sites Is Guilty Of Contributory Infringement http://dlvr.it/4LSmD | Aug 27 19:57 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @ffii Think of the children! http://is.gd/eH0YR next week (when the lies clear) we might learn that wikileaks is linked to Nazis&Alienzzz | Aug 27 19:57 | |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: He let Mac Asay in. "When you let Steve Jobs talk to you, it is already late. He is that persuasive" -i dont remember who said that | Aug 27 19:59 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <gnufreex> Because Mono would be illegal. | Aug 27 20:08 |
| schestowitz | it's not about patents | Aug 27 20:08 |
| schestowitz | It's primarily about API | Aug 27 20:08 |
| gnufreex | I know. | Aug 27 20:08 |
| schestowitz | "he who controls the API...." | Aug 27 20:08 |
| gnufreex | But patents too | Aug 27 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 27 20:08 |
| schestowitz | They accompany APISs | Aug 27 20:08 |
| gnufreex | Patents are good for FUDing | Aug 27 20:08 |
| gnufreex | And claiming that Linux would be crap about Microsoft | Aug 27 20:08 |
| schestowitz | And you can't evade the patents | Aug 27 20:08 |
| gnufreex | So we owe to Microsoft | Aug 27 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Protocols become a liability | Aug 27 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Techirghts has articles from Jose_X about it | Aug 27 20:09 |
| gnufreex | So we have to love Microsoft because they are not suing us... and when they sue, we need to understand they are doing it only beacuse of shareholders so they are not evil... | Aug 27 20:10 |
| gnufreex | and similar spins | Aug 27 20:10 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft MONOpoly over Linux | Aug 27 20:10 |
| gnufreex | That is what Mono is | Aug 27 20:10 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Apple tops the IBM security list with the most vulnerabilities by @pgralla http://bit.ly/aeiTdT | Aug 27 20:13 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] ♺ @cdibona: Sadly, we won't be able to attend JavaONE. For reasons why, see here: http://bit.ly/9Oq0qR :: well...nice one, Oracle. :-/ | Aug 27 20:13 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] Paul Allen company files #patent suit against AOL Apple eBay Facebook Google/YouTube Netflix Yahoo et al. http://bit.ly/dm8PW2 | Aug 27 20:13 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Code Blog: An update on JavaOne .::. Size~: 96.36 KB | Aug 27 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interval Licensing Files Patent Infringement Lawsuit Against Web Search Companies -- SEATTLE, Aug 27 /PRNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 49.93 KB | Aug 27 20:13 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra RT @graziano thanks to a #redhat hacker #Glibc Is Finally Free Software: http://2tu.us/2lyy #fsf #gnu | Aug 27 20:17 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Apropos of Allen suing everyone around: http://is.gd/eHa6u | Aug 27 20:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The CIO and Patent Lawsuits | Dell .::. Size~: 24.86 KB | Aug 27 20:25 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @thistleweb Thompson spreading FUD about the effects of the TV licence being scrapped or cut #BBC >> also see http://ur1.ca/1bf2z | Aug 27 20:27 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] 2 of the 11 companies sued by Paul Allen co. are Google + its YouTube unit. But: Google is pro-patent, see http://bit.ly/bwfSGw | Aug 27 20:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FOSS Patents: Google's Bilski brief didn't advocate the abolition of software patents .::. Size~: 60.99 KB | Aug 27 20:28 |
| gnufreex | Patent Boy attacks everyone but Microsoft. He attacked Red Hat, Oracle (twice) IBM (every day), Google, Eben Moglen, SFLC... just Microsoft is great\ | Aug 27 20:32 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz ♺ @cdibona: Sadly, we won't be able to attend JavaONE. For reasons why, see here: http://bit.ly/9Oq0qR :: well...nice on ... | Aug 27 20:32 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] Google stays away from JavaOne conf because of Oracle #patent suit http://bit.ly/ccokUZ Looks like settlement isn't near. | Aug 27 20:33 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] A Conference For Malware Writers http://bit.ly/c3z6A8 | Aug 27 20:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #gwibber OK Twitter lists are working fine now. It seems to be down to the API count. All the ways !gwibber draws on them, they don't last. | Aug 27 20:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] VMWare a um passo de comprar a Novell http://zd.net/dfFYk2 | Aug 27 20:57 | |
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| gnufreex | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/22292185094 | Aug 27 21:06 |
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| gnufreex | Is that Microsoft Paul Allen? | Aug 27 21:06 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: But Patent Boy is a DOTnot dev | Aug 27 21:07 |
| gnufreex | I know, read you post | Aug 27 21:07 |
| gnufreex | I was asking is founder of Microsoft suing Google? | Aug 27 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 27 21:11 |
| schestowitz | That yacht idiot | Aug 27 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Pretends to do "charity" now too | Aug 27 21:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/01/27/microsoft_offered_ladies/ | Aug 27 21:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @rayvr The bizarre cathedral-- Microsoft: "We Love Open Source" http://is.gd/eHcCa !softwarelibre !linux | Aug 27 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz ♺ @cdibona: Sadly, we won't be able to attend JavaONE. For reasons why, see here: http://bit.ly/9Oq0qR :: well...nice on ... | Aug 27 21:12 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Paul Allen Becomes A Patent Troll, Sues Google, Apple, Facebook, eBay And Others... http://dlvr.it/4LZxQ | Aug 27 21:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] FOSS meeting at Knowledge Commons Office - Sunday 29 August http://tinyurl.com/287gmye #blog | Aug 27 21:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @mairin ive had two pieces of apple hardware and both failed hw-wise so i have to agree there. (ipod shuffle + g3 tower) | Aug 27 21:21 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Pentagon Selects Companies To Build Flying Humvees http://bit.ly/cTbS2j | Aug 27 21:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Microsoft 'offered sex and drugs to distributors' http://tinyurl.com/y9g3xr9 !microsoft !windows !mvp !mvpbuzz !xp !vista !fail | Aug 27 21:22 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] May somebody do a favor on me by creating torrent for schoolOS? currently listed one is not working http://tinyurl.com/2do92yj | Aug 27 21:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Browse School OS Files on SourceForge.net .::. Size~: 21.8 KB | Aug 27 21:28 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @nsisodiya May somebody do a favor on me by creating torrent for schoolOS? currently listed one is not working http://tinyurl.com/2do92yj | Aug 27 21:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Browse School OS Files on SourceForge.net .::. Size~: 21.8 KB | Aug 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Old news, apparently no longer matters: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS413005311620100820 | Aug 27 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Developers unhappy over Oracle Android suit| Reuters .::. Size~: 51.88 KB | Aug 27 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Remember BP? | Aug 27 21:31 |
| schestowitz | and GS-SEC... "sh*tty deals" | Aug 27 21:32 |
| schestowitz | Bad news no longer matter when shelf life is out | Aug 27 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | I no longer hard about knoppix | Aug 27 21:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] FTC Fines ‘Fake Reviews’ Firm That Worked With Apple - http://techrights.org/2010/08/27/fake-reviews-crackdown/ | Aug 27 21:37 | |
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| gnufreex | Haha http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/paul-allen-is-no-patent-troll/2360 | Aug 27 21:42 |
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| gnufreex | Microsoft apologists are crazy. | Aug 27 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Bott!!!!!!1 | Aug 27 21:44 |
| schestowitz | hahah!!! | Aug 27 21:44 |
| schestowitz | I think it's a PR bot, bought by the Vole | Aug 27 21:44 |
| schestowitz | They give him free computers | Aug 27 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "Will write for FUD" | Aug 27 21:44 |
| gnufreex | That guy raised hell over Gentoo exploit and claimed that there is malware in Linux repositories. | Aug 27 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Wait till they portray the POS as a giver | Aug 27 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Yeah... a giver | Aug 27 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Who gives a cr* with his massive yacht | Aug 27 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Major polluter | Aug 27 21:45 |
| gnufreex | Who's POS? | Aug 27 21:45 |
| schestowitz | piece of slime | Aug 27 21:45 |
| gnufreex | aha | Aug 27 21:45 |
| schestowitz | The s doesn't stand for slime though | Aug 27 21:45 |
| gnufreex | Poin Of Sale | Aug 27 21:46 |
| gnufreex | For Microsoft | Aug 27 21:46 |
| gnufreex | They use POS to sell their crud | Aug 27 21:46 |
| gnufreex | haha | Aug 27 21:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 27/8/2010: ZaReason Verix Laptop Reviewed, #Btrfs Matures http://techrights.org/2010/08/27/btrfs-matures/ !techrights | Aug 27 22:12 | |
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| MinceR | http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2010/08/for-sale-efika-mx-smartbook.html?spref=fb | Aug 27 22:19 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] I started my blog five months ago but can't even count all the software #patent infringement suits filed since then... | Aug 27 22:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] #wikileaks lies outside, and challenges, the controlled 'consensus version' which has so successfully replaced #journalism everywhere else | Aug 27 22:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Paul Allen Files Patent Suit Against Apple, Google, Yahoo, Others http://bit.ly/dnklVx | Aug 27 22:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] California Pre-Schoolers Getting Tracking Devices http://dlvr.it/4LgGG | Aug 27 22:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 27/8/2010: ZaReason Verix Laptop Reviewed, #Btrfs Matures http://techrights.org/2010/08/27/btrfs-matures/ #techrights | Aug 27 22:21 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[_the_mad_hatter] Lies Of Omission - James Gannon Doesn't Tell You All Of The Details http://bit.ly/aHFZL8 | Aug 27 22:21 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Will Apple one day sue NY for trademark violation 'The Big Apple'? Given how they opperate, it wouldn't surprise me | Aug 27 22:23 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Lenovo To Launch Chinese Gaming Platform Called Ebox http://bit.ly/9hHRTV | Aug 27 22:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @fontana @bkuhn actually I'm curious about that: when I distribute code under #WTFPL you can do WTF you want, so what could be the issue? | Aug 27 22:32 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @wirelessnorth: It’s 2010 and Canadians pay the highest cell phone bills in the world | (with charts) http://bit.ly/9fIrAa | Aug 27 22:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] MS co-founder Paul Allen sues Everybody http://tinyurl.com/2b4sbfv !microsoft !windows !linux !foss !google !apple !xp !mvp !mvpbuzz !vista | Aug 27 22:42 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Moves to #ODF (Along With #GNU #Linux ) Obstructed by #Apple and Bureaucracy http://ur1.ca/1bkyt maybe @bobsutor will stop advertising Apple | Aug 27 22:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Running Chromium 5.0.375.127 (0) - !Chromium has been a loyal browser for me since the early builds...can't see myself with !firefox again. | Aug 27 22:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes I dunno, I can't let an old love just go. ;-) Chrome is ok, but FF is the best. | Aug 27 22:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] My !Sabayon desktop,pretty much the default but Im very happy with it. http://twitpic.com/2ir0y3 Check out Sabayon: http://tinyurl.com/22 | Aug 27 22:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith Ive no need for all those extensions/add ons slowing things down...and "bare" !firefox does not perform as well as !chromium | Aug 27 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Sweden to Finally Get Second a Pirate MEP? http://torrentfreak.com/sweden-to-finally-get-second-pirate-mep-100827/ !tpb !piratepartyuk | Aug 27 23:02 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Fresh Rumours/Speculations About #VMware Buying #Novell http://techrights.org/2010/08/27/mystery-acquirer/ #suse | Aug 27 23:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Garmin Recalls 1.25M 'Fire Risk' Satnavs http://bit.ly/a0RUdb | Aug 27 23:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] The other cancer http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/27/paul-allen-google-faceboo/ #patents #trivial | Aug 27 23:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Going head-to-head with Sky? You're a fucking PSB, act as a CB, be funded like a CB http://bbc.in/aDT2Dz | Aug 27 23:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Looks Like There May Be More Trademark Fights About Mafia Wars Then There Were Actual Mafia Wars http://dlvr.it/4LlhR | Aug 27 23:22 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Can't Compete in Phones, Wants to Control #Linux Phones Instead http://ur1.ca/1bmi5 #android #mono #swpats | Aug 27 23:22 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] BlackBerry Battle In India Going Down To the Wire http://bit.ly/aemnyG | Aug 27 23:40 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] Online collaboration with Feng Office - the ultimate alternative to OpenOffice.o: Linux User and Developer: "Feng ... http://bit.ly/chg3U5 | Aug 27 23:43 | |
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| Jookia | Ugh. MonoDroid. C# on Android. Novell. | Aug 27 23:48 |
| Jookia | I'm really bugged out by this TBH. | Aug 27 23:48 |
| Jookia | Their website has tutorials using Visual Studio. | Aug 27 23:49 |
| _Goblin | Mono is dead in the water....droid or not.... | Aug 27 23:52 |
| Jookia | I don't care, it still bugs me. | Aug 27 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Puppy Arcade 9 – New release! http://tinyurl.com/32q5j4b !linux !emulation !arcade !sega !nintendo !amiga !sinclair | Aug 27 23:52 | |
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| Jookia | Even MORE than that, the goddamn Microsoft tax. | Aug 27 23:52 |
| Jookia | For Android phones. | Aug 27 23:52 |
| Jookia | Extortion, really? :\ | Aug 27 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: Mono will live on in the default install of quite a lot of distros, for quite some time, I expect | Aug 27 23:52 |
| MinceR | Maemo/MeeGo phones are better anyway :> | Aug 27 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | also Ubuntu is hardly getting rid of Mono, using Banshee as the default instead of Rythombox for Ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition, confirms that | Aug 27 23:53 |
| Jookia | It's clear the Mono isn't being removed from Ubuntu. | Aug 27 23:54 |
| Jookia | I want to watch Microsoft just step in to court with the C# lawsuits and watch as every single distro drops Mono in record time. | Aug 27 23:54 |
| gnufreex | Jookia: Microsoft will not do that until there is no way to get rid of Mono without rewriting half of desktop. | Aug 27 23:55 |
| Jookia | That'll never happen, though. :\ | Aug 27 23:55 |
| gnufreex | And they are not going to do it themselves | Aug 27 23:56 |
| gnufreex | They are going to use some of their patent trolls | Aug 27 23:56 |
| Jookia | Ugh. | Aug 27 23:56 |
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| Jookia | Will this kind of business be deemed illegal some day? | Aug 27 23:56 |
| gnufreex | I don't know. | Aug 27 23:57 |
| Jookia | Seeing Microsoft get away with this makes me sick to my stomach. | Aug 27 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: getting away with what? | Aug 27 23:57 |
| Jookia | Patent traps. | Aug 27 23:57 |
| Jookia | Monopolies, etc. | Aug 27 23:58 |
| Jookia | Having a monkey as CEO | Aug 27 23:58 |
| gnufreex | Balmer is good CEO... for us | Aug 27 23:59 |
| gnufreex | If they put some smart, it might get ugly | Aug 27 23:59 |
| gnufreex | Let the monkeyboy stay CEO | Aug 27 23:59 |
| gnufreex | He is godsend. | Aug 27 23:59 |
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