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Chips_B_Malroyso people with nothing, are not afriad of these laws.Sep 03 00:00
Chips_B_Malroysince they have nothing to loseSep 03 00:00
Chips_B_Malroywhich is why, the RIAA loses money procuting peopleSep 03 00:00
Chips_B_Malroythey can never stop 'piracy.'  For want of a better word.Sep 03 00:02
Chips_B_MalroyLook at ChinaSep 03 00:02
Chips_B_MalroyBallmer is only now figuring out that MS will never get much out of ChinaSep 03 00:02
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.brandchannel.com/home/post/2010/08/31/China-Confounds-Tantalizes-Multinationals.aspxSep 03 00:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China Confounds, Tantalizes Multinational Corporations .::. Size~: 56.64 KBSep 03 00:04
Chips_B_Malroy"In May, Microsoft's CEO, Steve Ballmer, expressed concerns about lack of copyright and piracy protections. "China is a less interesting market to us than India, than Indonesia," Ballmer said. "India is not perfect but the intellectual property protection is far, far better than it would be in China.""Sep 03 00:04
gnufreex"never get much" is understement, Chips_B_Malroy.Sep 03 00:04
Chips_B_Malroyalmost like he had a clue, almostSep 03 00:04
gnufreexChinese are making console to sink xBoxSep 03 00:05
gnufreexAnd I am still thinking what Russians will do when they get Windows soruce codeSep 03 00:05
gnufreexMS promised themSep 03 00:05
gnufreexThey might just take itSep 03 00:05
Chips_B_MalroyBut don't feel too sorry for the Borg.  Cause the Borg wanted to charge those peasants making 35 cents an hour, full price for many years for Windows and Office.  The Borg taught them to pirate.Sep 03 00:05
gnufreexand fork itSep 03 00:05
Chips_B_Malroyugh, a fork of windersSep 03 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Another late episode of the !SFLC show?Sep 03 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] How to post to !identica from !vim with !twitvim http://tinyurl.com/36jdlm2Sep 03 00:06
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Chips_B_Malroyjust start over from scatchSep 03 00:06
Chips_B_Malroyit cannot be savedSep 03 00:06
gnufreexYeah, that would be smarterSep 03 00:06
gnufreexOr use LinuxSep 03 00:06
Chips_B_MalroybestSep 03 00:07
gnufreexbut they might take source and use it to maintain Windows boxes they already have. To cut off Microsoft completley. And later switch to LinuxSep 03 00:07
Chips_B_Malroy"In May, Microsoft's CEO, Steve Ballmer, expressed concerns about lack of copyright and piracy protections. "China is a less interesting market to us than India, than Indonesia," Ballmer said. "India is not perfect but the intellectual property protection is far, far better than it would be in China.""Sep 03 00:08
gnufreexIn Russia, source code opens youSep 03 00:08
Chips_B_MalroyI think MS already showed the code to ChinaSep 03 00:08
gnufreexIt is more like "than it would [ever] be in China"Sep 03 00:08
Chips_B_Malroygive the code to Iran, lol, they would fork itSep 03 00:10
gnufreexThat is why they won't get any money form ChinaSep 03 00:10
gnufreexAny country should put in their law: Never give money to MicrosoftSep 03 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay I've updated a bit more the description of the #tinderbox setup: http://is.gd/eScDk — still wondering about the license to use !gentooSep 03 00:11
gnufreexlolSep 03 00:11
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Chips_B_MalroyThey taught the Red Chinesse how to be pirates, cause they flat out could not afford it.  Now they just buy a disk for a buck.  MS tried to lower the price by 2/3s in China, that did not work either.Sep 03 00:12
Chips_B_MalroyWhy pay $66 when you can get it for $1 as everyone else does?Sep 03 00:12
Chips_B_MalroyThe Chinese are not stupid, but Ballmer might be.Sep 03 00:13
gnufreexSadly, that's why chinese don't use free softwareSep 03 00:13
Chips_B_Malroyyes, same way with Iran too.Sep 03 00:13
ThistleWebyeah, software is the only part of their lives where they're not totally free ;PSep 03 00:13
Chips_B_MalroyCuba too, but at least they make a try to move to Linux.Sep 03 00:13
Chips_B_Malroymore for security reasonsSep 03 00:14
Chips_B_Malroythe us gov backdoor they fearSep 03 00:14
Chips_B_Malroythats why China and now Russia want to see the codeSep 03 00:14
Chips_B_Malroyor maybe they want their own backdoor in windowsSep 03 00:15
Chips_B_MalroynsaSep 03 00:15
gnufreexIt is crazy how russians "decided" that they will use Windows in their schoolsSep 03 00:16
Chips_B_MalroyIran is santioned, and has no reason to pay for MS software.  Their gov uses it and does not pay for it.Sep 03 00:16
gnufreexAlso, I don't get why Ukraine made their own distroSep 03 00:17
gnufreexStupid..Sep 03 00:17
ThistleWebwhy?Sep 03 00:17
Chips_B_Malroy"<gnufreex> It is crazy how russians "decided" that they will use Windows in their schools"  inertia, the fear of the unknown.  In this case, the unknown is Linux.Sep 03 00:17
gnufreexJust use CentOS if you don't want to paySep 03 00:17
gnufreexThey already switching to unknown. They used Comodore or somethingSep 03 00:18
gnufreexFor govt, they should just use debian and hire some peps to work upstreamSep 03 00:19
gnufreexIt is stupid to make their own distroSep 03 00:19
gnufreexbecause people are already doing workSep 03 00:19
Chips_B_MalroyI was once told by a windows guru:  "I know Windows, if I move to Linux, I will just be a newbie."  I told the windows user, that much of their windows experience would be useful in LInux as well.  But some would be different.Sep 03 00:19
ThistleWebChips_B_Malroy: that's a big factor, they already invested time learning to be better than their peersSep 03 00:20
Chips_B_MalroyTo tell them they have to start all over, does not work.Sep 03 00:20
cubevectorok, well I used Unix before Windows so no problem :)Sep 03 00:20
ThistleWebit's maybe a buggy POS but I know enough of the quirks to get bySep 03 00:20
cubevectorin fact, my Unix notes form the start of my Linux notesSep 03 00:20
ThistleWebyou do get used to stuffSep 03 00:20
cubevectoranyone with a brain can switch OSesSep 03 00:21
gnufreexYESSep 03 00:21
gnufreexI am saying thatSep 03 00:21
gnufreexsince foreverSep 03 00:21
ThistleWebon the surface there;s not a lot of difference for an average user in any GUI OSSep 03 00:21
Chips_B_Malroywhich is why I like kde3.5 better than 4.x.  Cause the 3.5 UI looks more like XP, and 4.x looks like Vi$ta to me.Sep 03 00:21
ThistleWebwhen you get into an admin level user, there's a LOT differentSep 03 00:21
cubevectormy Dad uses Linux and he's not very knowledgeable :)Sep 03 00:22
gnufreexEveryone with a brain can switch OS. Everyone with a brain can asemle their own computer no need to pay Dell... that is another thing I was saying forever.Sep 03 00:22
Chips_B_Malroydon't get me wrong, I can use kde4.x, just perfer 3.5Sep 03 00:22
ThistleWebI felt lost in the backtrack live usb, because it's kde 3.5 and I'm just way out of touch with both kde and kde 3.5Sep 03 00:23
cubevectorChips_B_Malroy, which distro are you using?Sep 03 00:23
cubevectorif you like 3.5.10 you should give vector classic a trySep 03 00:23
Chips_B_MalroySome people like paying MS, as Bill is a Hero.  He gives away his money, they tell.  Truth is, people would rather pay a company that they think that the folks running it are nice people.Sep 03 00:23
cubevectorok, as for the whole windows thing, look at Arthur OS sometimeSep 03 00:24
cubevector1988Sep 03 00:24
ThistleWebauthur as in arthur dent?Sep 03 00:24
Chips_B_MalroyMostly I use, Mepis 8.0 based on KDE3.5, But I have Mepis 8.5 on another laptop,  I also have Sidux, AntiX and Kanotix on partitionsSep 03 00:24
gnufreexhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_%28operating_system%29Sep 03 00:25
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Chips_B_MalroyI intend to try Fedora again version 14 alphaSep 03 00:25
cubevectorhttp://media.arstechnica.com/images/gui/20-riscos.gifSep 03 00:25
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cubevectorah right, MEPISSep 03 00:25
Chips_B_Malroyyou notice I use everything that is based on DebianSep 03 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Canadian Politics - September 2, 2010 - The Long Gun Registry http://bit.ly/bP51MYSep 03 00:26
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Chips_B_Malroyalthough I have used PCLinuxos at timesSep 03 00:26
cubevectordo you think one could retrofit KDE 3.5.10 on Fedora?Sep 03 00:26
cubevectorshould be possibleSep 03 00:27
Chips_B_Malroywould have to be based on the same versions of gcc and xorg, I thinkSep 03 00:27
gnufreexIs RISC OS written in ARM assembly?Sep 03 00:28
gnufreexOr at least this ArthurSep 03 00:28
Chips_B_MalroyI hope that the new 3.5.12 version folk will make Debian upstreamSep 03 00:29
Chips_B_Malroy*forkSep 03 00:29
cubevectorwe had C compilers in 1988 and before but I'm not sure about ArthurSep 03 00:29
cubevectorwell I put 3.4.2 on FC1Sep 03 00:30
gnufreexI know there was C compilersSep 03 00:30
gnufreexJust some people like asemblySep 03 00:30
gnufreexdon't know whySep 03 00:30
cubevectorthe Arthur GUI was written in BASIC :)Sep 03 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Listening to Hackerspace | signal http://ur1.ca/1gh9m Thank you @kletskous ;-)Sep 03 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Obama administration refuses responsibility in New Orleans http://ur1.ca/1gpu7Sep 03 00:31
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Chips_B_MalroyI know that KDE worked hard on 4.x.  Its not terrible or anything.  But it seems to have left a lot of older hardware in the dark, that will not run on it.  My main problem with it.Sep 03 00:32
cubevectorprobably Haiku is the next best OSSep 03 00:32
cubevectorChips_B_Malroy, exactly soSep 03 00:32
cubevectorjust like every linux distro except BL3 didn't care about 486'sSep 03 00:33
cubevectoran ideal OS should run on anything with an MMU and 32-bit protected memorySep 03 00:33
gnufreexHaiku guys will go propriatary when gets usable. [ this is just a hunch ]Sep 03 00:34
cubevectorah, they tried that with BeOS :)Sep 03 00:36
cubevectorbig bad M slapped them downSep 03 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: US told EU to hide #ACTA from public http://ur1.ca/1fv8g Secrecy has correlation with corruptionSep 03 00:36
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cubevectora pity though, it had potentialSep 03 00:36
gnufreexI know... but aren't those same guys? Haiku and BeOS devs?Sep 03 00:36
cubevectorthere's some overlapSep 03 00:37
gnufreexI think Linux will get to bloated for Desktop in coming years, it will scale to 100000000xxx CPUs, but it will suck on desktopSep 03 00:38
gnufreexGreat chance for HURDSep 03 00:38
gnufreex(lol)Sep 03 00:38
Chips_B_MalroyI worry more about the desktop manager getting bloated than the kernelSep 03 00:39
Chips_B_Malroywindow mangerSep 03 00:39
cubevectorthat's why retro Linux will live onSep 03 00:39
cubevectorjust backup all the sourceSep 03 00:39
gnufreexWell... Windows manager will never get too bloated for regular desktopSep 03 00:40
gnufreexBecause it is made for desktopSep 03 00:40
gnufreexbut kerenel is made primarily for serversSep 03 00:40
gnufreex*kernelSep 03 00:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Shares at W3Schools.com ur1.ca/1gq6l "GNU/Linux rose from 4.2% to 4.9%, up 17% year over year"Sep 03 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Playing Metroid Other M !nintendoSep 03 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: Better link for audio from last night's Melbourne Writers Festival talk http://tinyurl.com/2cym782 #mwf http://awe.sm/59zdQSep 03 00:46
sebsebsebhrm 10.10 beta is using the infamous wall paperSep 03 00:47
gnufreexChuck Norris fart?Sep 03 00:48
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gnufreexgnSep 03 00:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Any !gentoo chromium user noted crashes when trying to list passwords? It does so on Yamato, but not on Saladin (my laptop) :|Sep 03 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] How can I add a space between Title and Url: action=newnotice&status_textarea='%post_title%''%post_url%' #wordpress #share on !identicaSep 03 01:11
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_Goblin hi ThistleWebSep 03 01:22
ThistleWebheySep 03 01:24
ThistleWebahh got disconnected, I wondered what happened lolSep 03 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Test drive !ubuntu 10.10 beta, I like the updated radiance and ambiance, and the humanity iconsSep 03 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to ICP......why do I like these guys??? !icp !clowns !juggalowSep 03 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Substandard farming to blame for salmonella outbreak http://ur1.ca/1gbopSep 03 01:31
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/09/new-malware-detects-browser-shows-fake-malware-warning-page.arsSep 03 01:33
Chips_B_MalroyNew malware detects browser, shows fake malware warning pageSep 03 01:34
Chips_B_Malroy"Microsoft is warning about a new piece of malware, Rogue:MSIL/Zeven, that auto-detects a user's browser and then imitates the relevant malware warning pages from Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome. The fake warning pages are very similar to the real thing; you have to look closely to realize they aren't the real thing. The ploy is a basic social engineering scheme, but in this case the malware authors are relying on theSep 03 01:34
Chips_B_Malroyuser's trust in their browser, a tactic that hasn't been seen before."Sep 03 01:34
Chips_B_Malroy"Beyond the warning pages, the actual malware looks like the real deal: it allows you to scan files, tells you when you're behind on your updates, and enables you to change your security and privacy settings. Performing a scan results in the product finding malicious files, but of course it cannot delete them unless you update, which requires paying for the full version. Attempting to buy the product will open an HTMLSep 03 01:36
Chips_B_Malroywindow that provides a useless "Safe Browsing Mode" with high-strength encryption. To top it all off, the rogue antivirus webpage looks awfully similar to the Microsoft Security Essentials webpage; even the awards received by MSE and a link to the Microsoft Malware Protection Center have been copied."Sep 03 01:36
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Rogue-Win7-AV-Copies-the-Microsoft-Security-Essentials-Site-154835.shtmlSep 03 01:36
Chips_B_MalroyRogue Win7 AV Copies the Microsoft Security Essentials SiteSep 03 01:37
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.itnews.com.au/News/230906,heartland-pays-another-54m-for-malware-infection.aspxSep 03 01:38
Chips_B_MalroyHeartland pays another $5.4m for malware infectionSep 03 01:38
Chips_B_Malroy"The United States' fourth largest credit card payments processing company Heartland Payment Systems has agreed to pay a US$5 million ($5.4 million) settlement to its financial services customer Discover over a data breach caused by a malware infection."Sep 03 01:39
Chips_B_Malroy"The payments processor had already paid American Express US$3.6 million over the same breach, while Visa agreed to cap its compensation demands to US$59.2 million."Sep 03 01:39
Chips_B_Malroy"In early 2008 malicious software infiltrated Heartland's payments system, which allowed attackers for several months to collect in-transit, unencrypted payment card data, according to Heartland's 2009 Securities and Exchange Securities filings."Sep 03 01:40
Chips_B_Malroy"Heartland was not the only major payments processor to suffer an attack in 2008. A Russian hacker is facing charges in the US for allegedly breaking the Royal Bank of Scotland's encryption for its US payroll processing network, RBS WorldPay."Sep 03 01:41
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2010/09/02/242587/Polymorphic-ransomware-tops-malware-charts.htmSep 03 01:42
Chips_B_MalroyPolymorphic ransomware tops malware chartsSep 03 01:42
Chips_B_Malroy"August was the biggest comeback month since March for TotalSecurity, which locks out applications and data, and then demands a ransom to restore access."Sep 03 01:43
Chips_B_Malroy"The resurgence is attributed to the fact that the malware has been made polymorphic, which means the code changes hourly to avoid detection."Sep 03 01:43
Chips_B_MalroyYou can never be safe running Windows.Sep 03 01:44
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.myce.com/news/25-percent-of-all-malware-is-now-targeting-usb-storage-devices-33797/Sep 03 01:45
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Chips_B_Malroy25 percent of Windows malware now targets USB storage devicesSep 03 01:45
Chips_B_Malroy"Even the United States military has been victim to one such USB worm attack. The Washington Post revealed last week that a hacked USB drive was the source of a 2008 security breach that exposed data on Central Command computer systems. This is the first on-the-record disclosure by Pentagon officials that confirms classified data was accessible to foreign intelligence because of the breach"Sep 03 01:48
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.finextra.com/community/fullblog.aspx?id=4420Sep 03 01:50
Chips_B_MalroyUniversity loses nearly 1 million dollars to malwareSep 03 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Beginning backup of data on the Linux Mint 8 partition. Next, backup data on the Xubuntu 9.10 partition.Sep 03 01:51
Chips_B_Malroy"Thieves appear to have stolen the funds from University of Virginia after compromising a computer belonging to the University's Financial Controller. Malware intercepted the Online Banking Credentials for the University's Bank accounts and initiated a fraudulent wire transfer for $996,000 to a  Bank in China"Sep 03 01:52
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.net-security.org/malware_news.php?id=1453Sep 03 02:01
Chips_B_MalroyGoogle Code hosting malware-spreading projectSep 03 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @mohanpram Why WebOS 2.0 Should Have Rivals Worried http://bit.ly/9r4YvUSep 03 02:01
Chips_B_Malroy"Most of the files are executables or .rar archives. The first uploaded file dates back to June 24, and more have been uploaded throughout August."Sep 03 02:02
Chips_B_Malroy"Taking the first file on the list (xin.exe) and testing it on VirusTotal showed that only 8 out of 43 solutions were able to detect it. The second file (wowvpn.exe) is detected by more than half of the solutions."Sep 03 02:02
Chips_B_MalroyMy comment is this, if it takes 8 out of 43 antivirus or antimalware windows programs to detect these, then what chance does the average windows user, running as Administrator by default with only one antivirus and or antimalware program, have?Sep 03 02:05
Chips_B_MalroyNot much, and that is why Windows is such a money maker for all repair shops.Sep 03 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] This is one of the nights that I'd rather be coding than sleeping, but I really don't have a pure-coding project at hand :|Sep 03 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] "If I had a pound for every time I forgot something, I would.... umm.... thingy" !qSep 03 02:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] "There are 3 types of people in this world, those who can count and those who can't" !qSep 03 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Just reported this #GNOME_bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=628662Sep 03 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] A guy got his hemorrhoid cream and toothpaste mixed up. He left the house with piles of smiles and a ring of confidence :-DSep 03 02:11
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://kara.allthingsd.com/20100902/september-surprise-aol-reups-search-agreement-with-google/Sep 03 02:18
Chips_B_MalroySeptember Surprise: AOL Re-Ups and Expands Search Agreement With GoogleSep 03 02:19
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.esecurityplanet.com/patches/article.php/3901951/Microsoft-Releases-Fix-It-for-DLL-Hole.htmSep 03 02:29
Chips_B_MalroyMicrosoft Releases 'Fix It' for DLL HoleSep 03 02:29
Chips_B_Malroy"However, the latest Fix It -- in combination with a separate tool that Microsoft provided last month -- serves merely to block most of the newly emerged DLL attacks: It does not address the underlying problem, which according to Microsoft, actually has to do with poor programming practices."Sep 03 02:30
Chips_B_Malroymost, does not fix the problemSep 03 02:31
Chips_B_Malroy"The DLL security vulnerability first grabbed headlines in August when a Slovenian security research firm pointed out that, under some circumstances, a malicious hacker could deploy a booby-trapped DLL file into a directory where Windows will load it, potentially granting the attacker control over the system. But it later surfaced that a U.S. security researcher had warned Microsoft about the DLL issue almost a year before,Sep 03 02:32
Chips_B_Malroyand had even published an academic paper on the threat last month."Sep 03 02:32
Chips_B_Malroy"According to the research paper, the threat affected more than just Microsoft applications, with many popular third-party programs potentially at risk."Sep 03 02:33
Chips_B_Malroyok gn allSep 03 02:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Substandard farming to blame for salmonella outbreak http://ur1.ca/1gv43Sep 03 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @lamm: #Oracle Office is a rebranded nonfree product separate from #OpenOffice. #ORCL is HEAVILY downplaying OOo. See FAQ ur1.ca/1gu98Sep 03 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay taking the time to restart Yamato since I'm running the old kernel anyway.Sep 03 02:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @glynmoody: Reminder: You Don't Own Your Ebooks; Amazon Locks Customer Out And Doesn't Respond To Help Requests - http://bit.ly/d1LoCwSep 03 03:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ok so dist update to !ubuntu 10.10 went bad, X doesn't work, going to install via disc. #maverick #betaSep 03 03:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] #maverick's installer is freaking awesome! Best I have seen thus far, just needs to be a bit wider! !ubuntu #betaSep 03 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Charges might be a dirty trick http://ur1.ca/1gxjdSep 03 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ohio Tea Party canidate for Senate has Pedobear approval http://u.nu/4je4fSep 03 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @stevesilberman: .@robcapps Q&A w/Simon Singh on how science challenges "common sense" prejudices - ht... http://awe.sm/5A02ISep 03 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: '#Sciencefiction is an ideology. Ideology: an imaginary relationship to the real situation. We're all ide... http://awe.sm/5A02JSep 03 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @ScottWesterfeld: Liar by @justinelavaworm wins the WA Premier's Award for Best Young Adult Novel of 2... http://awe.sm/5A02KSep 03 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A Venn diagram of the Muslim population in comparison to relevant groups http://u.nu/4pe4fSep 03 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] “desmoronamento prende 33 mineiros no Chile” .oO pessoal de MG tem cada ideia de turismo radical no exterior... :-P :-D :-(Sep 03 03:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] WTH happen to !rhythmbox indicator icon?? #maverick !ubuntuSep 03 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !gwibber does not keep my setting...WTF!!! #maverick !ubuntuSep 03 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Looks like in #maverick you have to install .deb files via Software Center, coolSep 03 05:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Looks like !ubuntu one music store is missing from !rhythmbox #maverickSep 03 05:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] OK, I am about to see how much Severed Fifth I can cram in one tweet, please re-tweet if you can! #severedfifthSep 03 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] #severedfifth RT! http://is.gd/eSyLS http://is.gd/eSyPS http://is.gd/eSySI http://is.gd/eSyVY http://is.gd/eSyZn http://is.gd/eBkYTSep 03 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] More dangerous than in the Gulf of Mexico http://ur1.ca/1h1lnSep 03 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I guess *I* won't get the $9K from the government - http://www.mrbrownshow.com/2010/09/03/the-mrbrown-show-oh-army/ #fbSep 03 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Might as well keep the Software Center open I keeping finding apps that need to be installed #maverickSep 03 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jgrahampk economist on #netneutrality http://www.ur1.ca/1h23q from @jpbarlow's declaration to @zittrain's future of the internetSep 03 06:01
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/48228211#notice-48633699 ' See http://identi.ca/notice/48633383 which I originally meant as a reply to your question.'Sep 03 06:10
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Luis A. Morán Morales (lamm)'s status on Friday, 03-Sep-10 01:09:49 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.83 KBSep 03 06:10
schestowitzThey pull a SOlarisSep 03 06:10
tessierhttp://www.drdobbs.com/windows/225701475;jsessionid=LH2VQ1S4YDXWXQE1GHPCKH4ATMY32JVNSep 03 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lamm #Oracle Office is a rebranded nonfree product separate from #OpenOffice. #ORCL is HEAVILY downplaying OOo. See FAQ PDF..Sep 03 06:11
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tessierProgrammers may find that amusingSep 03 06:11
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/david_rysk/statuses/22840265439 "one can hope that's just the new name for StarOffice."Sep 03 06:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Media supporting withdrawl fiction http://ur1.ca/1h2u6Sep 03 06:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.truth-out.org/media-manipulates-end-war-iraq62826Sep 03 06:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @CopyrightLaw: Boing Boing: "Applying ‘ownership’ to links, public domain material does more harm than good" !copyright !billc32 !cdnpoliSep 03 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/9/2010: GNOME 2.32 Beta 2, Android Tablets http://techrights.org/2010/09/03/gnome-2-32-beta-2/Sep 03 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] An overly simplified view of the Middle East http://ur1.ca/1h46wSep 03 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @gabrielsaldana: make voip calls from emacs http://ur1.ca/1h36rSep 03 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @evan: License change for default StatusNet themes from AGPLv3 to CC-By-3.0; see http://ur1.ca/1h113 for details< why not by-sa?Sep 03 07:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Talk is talk, kill is kill - emacs-linphone, and some more music .::. Size~: 14.33 KBSep 03 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eye on Security: Windows Ransomware, DLL Hole, Malware, and More, http://techrights.org/2010/09/03/unpleasant-niceties/Sep 03 07:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eye on Security: Windows Ransomware, DLL Hole, Malware, and More | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.04 KBSep 03 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm Can you just plant some trees to offset that SUV? http://larryrusswurm.com/2010/09/01/plant-a-tree-for-that-suv/Sep 03 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] http://is.gd/eSJ2D Ubutu 10.10 will change default F-spot and Rhythmbox. Cool, but w/ pictures it's going 2b a mess w/ tags :-/Sep 03 08:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Plant  a Tree for that SUV «  The Many Rants of Larry Russwurm .::. Size~: 9.89 KBSep 03 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] H.264 Is Not The Sort Of Free That Matters: At the end of last week, the MPEG-LA consortium announced they were ex... http://bit.ly/bLs7WNSep 03 08:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AOL Escapes Microsoft http://ur1.ca/1h54d #AOL turns to Google, despite rumours that #Microsoft wanted to buy AOLSep 03 08:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] 75 months to go http://ur1.ca/1h5ezSep 03 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Netcat - The Tcp/Udp Rambo Knife http://wp.me/p11LWx-mfSep 03 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RIP Meme: The Double Rainbow Guy Sells Out to Microsoft - http://bit.ly/a6lW9K #sharing and exploitation don't mixSep 03 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Truth About Thomas Edison and New Species of Patent Trolls http://ur1.ca/1h5qt #swpats #europe #historySep 03 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I think I will get this Samsung Galaxy tablet (runs Android and not a happy jail cell like the iPad) - http://ur1.ca/1h5sq #fbSep 03 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thomas Edison's plot to hijack the movie industry - http://bit.ly/a5zpKL monopolistic bully, just like James Watt (via @schestowitz)Sep 03 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ubuntu 10.10 Beta is out - http://bit.ly/d2ttgB get your Maverick Meerkat while it's, er, hot #ubuntu #beta #linuxSep 03 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] This looks very interesting - http://www.notionink.in/. A tablet running Andriod from a Bangalore company. Thanks KiimYong for the pointer.Sep 03 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] NEW STATUSSep 03 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just installed !twitvim on my work desktop. Showing off to colleagues :-)Sep 03 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !GNU !Linux Keeps Gaining Market, Microsoft-Funded Net Applications Lying http://ur1.ca/1h6mx Don't pay attention to the iOS v Linux noiseSep 03 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] US prisons designed to crush the spirit http://ur1.ca/1h6puSep 03 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Android: the return of the Unix wars? - http://bit.ly/bUZBD3 excellent analysis from someone who knows his stuff #android #unixSep 03 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Not to Run a University Press (or How Sausage is Made) - http://bit.ly/avvprt interesting background to sad situation #publishingSep 03 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 10 Sources for Free Textbooks Online - http://bit.ly/dB0Nfy it's the future #ebooks #textbooksSep 03 09:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   How Not to Run a University Press (or How Sausage is Made) | Savage Minds .::. Size~: 72.61 KBSep 03 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Is the Joo Joo http://thejoojoo.com/ on sale at COMEX - http://www.comexshow.com.sg/?Sep 03 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So is Edison, Microsoft, Oracle, Paul Allen made from the same greed cloth? http://ur1.ca/1h5sn #fbSep 03 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: Nomads in Tashkorgan Valley - http://bit.ly/cXGbDz I want to go there *now* (via @farwestchina) #xinjiang #pixSep 03 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Cool list of hacker ninja commandline-fu : http://g33kinfo.com/info/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/comfu1.txtSep 03 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @kaze rt @paulrouget: #TwitVim, a Twitter/identi.ca client for !Vim: http://bit.ly/S1rPN !CLISep 03 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another data win: TfL opens up bus and tube timetables for developers - http://bit.ly/cNOOo3 great to see London leading the way #opendataSep 03 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The !Ubuntu #Maverick Meerkat countdown banners have arrived to !ubuntuhu: http://goo.gl/dGMh English version: http://goo.gl/59LWSep 03 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ho hum, need to get some work done. At least with !twitvim I can keep a sly eye on !identica :-)Sep 03 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Shane Fagan: How to turn !Ubuntu into a Gaming platform? http://goo.gl/KWeJSep 03 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mackenzie Morgan: Finding more women to speak at Ohio LinuxFest: success! http://goo.gl/bVUxSep 03 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Only Idiots Want to Pay for Novell” http://techrights.org/2010/09/03/wildeboer-on-ballnux/ @jWildeboer on #ballnuxSep 03 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Open Ended: Chrome reaches second birthday, version 6 goes stable http://goo.gl/ZscoSep 03 10:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Linux Tips & Tricks: Finding more women to speak at Ohio LinuxFest:  success! .::. Size~: 85.53 KBSep 03 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth on the Ayatana list: As a result of the feedback we'll revamp the wallpaper (of !Ubuntu #Maverick) http://goo.gl/Z8AmSep 03 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Did I use the word idots? AFAIR I said "seems noone wants to pay for SUSE anyway" http://is.gd/eSUqX @ruiseabra said the I wordSep 03 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Re: [Ayatana] OMG!Ubuntu a bane or a boon? [was]Re: The new default wallpaper .::. Size~: 9.06 KBSep 03 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz important part of NOVL/VMW PR is "we provide [SLES] subscription to patches and updates at no additional cost" - Coupon dealSep 03 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Trillion dollars worse than wasted http://ur1.ca/1h80lSep 03 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] !Linux NOT at 1% and on the rise: http://tinyurl.com/28lpgq !microsoft !windows !linux !mvp !mvpbuzz !xp !foss !appleSep 03 10:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @openbytes !Linux NOT at 1% and on the rise: http://tinyurl.com/28lpgq !microsoft !windows !linux !mvp !mvpbuzz !xp !foss !appleSep 03 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @openbytes How long before we catch up with Mac?Sep 03 10:51
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oiaohmInteresting on those numbers OS numbers.  schestowitz at the rate they are going vista is going to disappear from existance well ahead of XP.Sep 03 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !GNU !Linux Users in !Techrights http://ur1.ca/1h8fl Still a largely BSD/Linux users' zone, and that's okay, I thinkSep 03 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Note: *I* didn't say the idiot thing, please correct.Sep 03 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] View the newest xkcd comic from the terminal with cli. feh `lynx --dump http://xkcd.com/| grep png` !linux #commandline-fuSep 03 10:56
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oiaohmhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HP-and-Hynix-memristor-joint-development-agreement/  InterestingSep 03 11:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP and Hynix team up on ReRAM - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 54.58 KBSep 03 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Woohoo, !OMGUbuntu is working again from here too!Sep 03 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ernie Ball guitar strings saved $80,000 going open source. Any more stories like this? http://news.cnet.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html?tag=lhSep 03 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The new !OMGubuntu site looks even better that the previous one... and it is much faster.Sep 03 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @richslxh Good question...although Microsoft advocates will always claim that Linux usage is <1% even if everyone was using it.Sep 03 11:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Free exploitation treaty brings people little benefit http://ur1.ca/1h9g8Sep 03 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @openbytes Notice how people say Android, not Linux? It's good marketing. The word Linux sends FUD into non-techie minds.Sep 03 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @openbytes If Ubuntu was marketed as Ubuntu OS Windows Alternative, it would sell more. Us Geeks fight for our words but it's bad marketingSep 03 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Schumacher > Shoemaker > Zapatero the professions are cool surnames.Sep 03 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @richslxh Its amazing though when you see how far Linux has come merely on word of mouth advertising...Linux doesn't have a MS budget!Sep 03 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @openbytes For sure, I think desktop wise Ubuntu is the king marketer, and Redhat for servers. Just needs a little marketing psychologySep 03 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer sorry about that, I've just corrected itSep 03 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Divide and Conquer: How #Microsoft Fractures Free and Open Source Software, !GNU !Linux http://ur1.ca/1ha41 #entryismSep 03 12:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu kept the promise of leaving Banshee and F-Spot (Mono) out of 10.10 http://ur1.ca/1ha5zSep 03 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz NoProb, thx for correcting :-)Sep 03 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @stephwho: #Wiesn-Gaudi.TV 2009 - Our Review: http://wiesn-gaudi.tv/wiesn-2009-unser-ruckblick #Oktoberfest | One word: Brilliant.Sep 03 12:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz Says here that Banshee is staying default. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2010-August/002621.htmlSep 03 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Gosling Webcast: Image via Wikipedia Next week JavaZone, the conference that brought you Lady Java and Java Fo... http://bit.ly/bPuZNrSep 03 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Ubuntu kept the promise of leaving Banshee and F-Spot (Mono) out of 10.10 http://ur1.ca/1ha5zSep 03 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @stephwho #Wiesn-Gaudi.TV 2009 - Our Review: http://wiesn-gaudi.tv/wiesn-2009-unser-ruckblick #OktoberfestSep 03 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] James Gosling couldn't make #JavaZone in Norway, but he WILL be making a few opening remarks just before via webcast. http://wp.me/pH8ns-mVSep 03 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "ReRAM devices [..] may eventually replace CPUs, too, say the companies." http://ur1.ca/1haaySep 03 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: Yeah, and I'm suffering thanks to idiots.Sep 03 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Testing Gmail's priority inbox feature: http://goo.gl/4W7WSep 03 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @drysdam @richslxh wget -qO- http://xkcd.com | grep "src.*comics" | cut -d\" -f4;feh `wget -qO- http://xkcd.com | grep "src.*comics" ...Sep 03 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh yes, UNE-only. I wrote about it http://ur1.ca/10r86 http://ur1.ca/0cadiSep 03 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I will throw the toys from the pram if you dicipline me, you just watch me, I will, I pwomise http://bbc.in/bbMM4ZSep 03 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz I'll bookmark that for later, thanks. :-)Sep 03 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Regularly starting your set an hour late just shows contempt for your fans, maybe G'n'R will learn that one day http://bbc.in/a6QsfvSep 03 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does the Fate of OpenSolaris Tell Us Where Unix Is Headed? - www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com http://ow.ly/2z1dcSep 03 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Politically independant mousepieces of the current government, loyal to whoever can refuse to fuel the gravy train http://bit.ly/bOvy9GSep 03 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @pookito I still use FF and I might keep on using it.I know Chrome is good,even when what I use is Chromium, but I am still happy with FFSep 03 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz RT @pookito I still use FF and I might keep on using it.I know Chrome is good,even when what I use is Chromium, but I am ...Sep 03 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why the 'sixth extinction' will be unpredictable - life - 03 September 2010 - New Scientist http://ow.ly/2z1wISep 03 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Little known great jazz in Chicago's neighborhoods - Jazz Beyond Jazz http://ow.ly/2z1zvSep 03 13:16
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:     Little known great jazz in Chicago's neighborhoods - Jazz Beyond Jazz     .::. Size~: 30.59 KBSep 03 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open health in Guatemala utilizing FreeMED software. bit.ly/aPPaCO #e-health #oss #emr #healthcareSep 03 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RPT @jackschofield: Some wag has redesigned Digg http://bit.ly/aK2JuW (pic)Sep 03 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open health in Guatemala utilizing FreeMED software. http://bit.ly/aPPaCO #ehealth #oss #emr #healthcareSep 03 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Oh...son of a peach! !gwibber come on keep my settings for the love of god #maverickSep 03 13:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] 5 ways to make Android 2.1 work like Froyo http://ur1.ca/1harlSep 03 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: #Zeitgeist Log Manager (Mockup) – Giving Control to the User http://goo.gl/CNEFSep 03 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 5 ways to make Android 2.1 work like Froyo - Computerworld .::. Size~: 82 KBSep 03 13:51
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schestowitzAnother PR stunt for 'puff' pieces http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10670468Sep 03 13:53
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/apple-tv-youre-a-glorified-roku/13904Sep 03 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Directgov Review - No Time to Lose - http://bit.ly/daGjEF you have until the end of today to comment #directgov #ukSep 03 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wave open source next steps: "Wave in a Box" - http://bit.ly/cG2Cez can you put a Wave in a box? #google #opensourceSep 03 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mozilla's Bespin becomes Skywriter - http://bit.ly/9f1m9E well, at least it's pronounceable... #mozilla #skywriterSep 03 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Meet Kerim Kalamujic, Bosnian Contributor! - http://bit.ly/cXmnfd I met him a few months ago: inspiring chap #mozilla #bosnia #HerzegovinaSep 03 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-09-03: Does the Fate of OpenSolaris Tell Us Where Unix Is Headed? No, I don't think so. But it doe... http://bit.ly/cjndxLSep 03 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @ruiseabra Me2, let's have a party :-(Sep 03 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Webmink's Law of Preservation of Win: I coined a new law yesterday and I think it's easy to find examples: http://bit.ly/cjndxLSep 03 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer You're already about to have an awesome party! #wiesn-gaudi.tv :)Sep 03 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] next few weeks: Brussels, Oslo, Zuerich, Cardiff, Paris, Capetown.Sep 03 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer It's just so badly polished, so many little things that would improve it's quality are simply not done. Sum becomes a big thing.Sep 03 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Wave's open source future "in a Box" http://ur1.ca/1hayp Waves don't drownSep 03 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Plone 4 released http://plone.org/news/plone-4-releasedSep 03 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] watching several Dragon's Den episodes on #BBC #iPlayerSep 03 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "What is unusual is who owns MobileMedia: MPEG-LA" WTF?? MPEG-LA invests in patent trolls? How is that even possible? http://is.gd/eTbtzSep 03 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Prior Art: Patent Litigation Weekly: MobileMedia's Unusual Patent Infringement Campaign .::. Size~: 40.77 KBSep 03 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Hey swipe forward works again on my #pre #webosSep 03 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @schestowitz !Plone 4 released http://plone.org/news/plone-4-releasedSep 03 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scammers Sending Out Notices Pretending To Be From HADOPI, Demanding Money For Infringement - http://bit.ly/ci7w5T predictable #hadopiSep 03 14:36
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oiaohmAre they Scammers or is that just a good cover against being busted for pushing false casesSep 03 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Small observation: I've been reading "open source" news (Google News filter) for 5 years; now/this week it's ~80% 'open' core, i.e. fakesSep 03 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @webmink OSI ought to do what Micheal did some years ago, namely try to stop fake 'open' source companies from using this badgeSep 03 14:46
schestowitzoiaohm: http://www.zeropaid.com/news/90531/scam-artists-use-hadopi-to-steal-users-money/Sep 03 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer MPEG-LA's CEO Larry Horn is a patent troll (see what /else/ he runs)Sep 03 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: H.264 Is Not The Sort Of Free That Matters: At the end of last week, the MPEG-LA consortium announced t... http://bit.ly/bLs7WNSep 03 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer judging by your link, I now see that you probably know it. Guess who promoted MPEG4? Mr. "freedom from pr0n" JobsSep 03 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Compare this action with official task of MPEG-LA. We should ask FTC and EU commission to research. This feels so very wrong.Sep 03 14:51
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oiaohmReally its a good cover.  Let a few scamers get in then if someone claims you have picked on them unfairly say no it was not me must have been a scammer.Sep 03 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @schestowitz Context?Sep 03 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Scammers Sending Out Notices Pretending To Be From HADOPI, Demanding Money For Infringement - http://bit.ly/ci7w5T predict ...Sep 03 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jerezim I talk about next #ACTA #NetNeutrality #NetFiltering #HADOPI & #GalloReport fights in Netzpolitik podcast http://bit.ly/9w8WTfSep 03 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] Arianna Huffington's latest book and the discipline NeoProgressives need: http://huff.to/cONFxKSep 03 15:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:   NPP100: Jeremie Zimmermann über Netzpolitik auf EU-Ebene : netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 64.58 KBSep 03 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @webmink see the preceding dentSep 03 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lessig Arianna does quite a disservice herself by giving platforms to megalomaniacs who impede progressSep 03 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz I note that your identi.ca client ignores context when posting. Can you fix that?Sep 03 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear Google, you #win when you #fail. Open sourcing #wave is #FTW for the rest of us. Keep it goin! http://is.gd/eTfmaSep 03 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bargain netbooks biting back at Apple http://bit.ly/aMVWBBSep 03 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @worellana Debian 7 will be 'wheeze' !debian http://ur1.ca/1hbbdSep 03 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Building Your Own Axe – A Guitar Player’s Dream – Or Nightmare http://bit.ly/bnA2a3Sep 03 15:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Bargain netbooks bite back at Apple | Money | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 131.94 KBSep 03 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: I never liked Google Wave much, but I totally agree that it's good to see it freeed. Too bad only after it failed.Sep 03 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Dammit, too many people at the coffee house this morning!Sep 03 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @jwildeboer Dear Google, you #win when you #fail. Open sourcing #wave is #FTW for the rest of us. Keep it goin! http://is.gd/eTfmaSep 03 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Wheezy? Oh my. See Debian marketing not getting any better.Sep 03 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Uff. Organised details for POSSE in Capetown, booked flights, everything set.Sep 03 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear Google, FB, twitter, flickr et al. You are working with *my* data - so be grateful and not greedy.Sep 03 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: Designing the new OMG! Ubuntu! site http://goo.gl/rppTSep 03 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] New GMail Now in .APK Form for Anyone (on Froyo) to Install http://bit.ly/abr4xo !android !nexusone (via Phandroid)Sep 03 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] my 4 TB RAID-10 storage system just died on me. i feel depressed.Sep 03 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @gotunandan Mine froze Chrome earlier when the new voicephone pop-up popped-up!Sep 03 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @laforge ouch, sorry! could the disks be fine and the controller fried? is it linux md raid, as in take disks out and try?Sep 03 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] FedEx loves to come to my door between 8 and 8:30 am. which means they get to see me in my bathrobe more often than not.Sep 03 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] Read about #fixcongressfirst's new Online Director (the Wizard of OD): http://bit.ly/9UKCYSSep 03 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @mairin i hate moin. i hate it.Sep 03 16:51
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sebsebsebHiSep 03 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] The Carriage http://xkcd.com/788/Sep 03 16:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] «Semantic Copyright» and CC REL http://labs.creativecommons.org/2010/09/02/semantic-copyright-and-cc-rel/Sep 03 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Dear Google, you #win when you #fail. Open sourcing #wave is #FTW for the rest of us. Keep it goin! http://is.gd/eTfmaSep 03 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laforge do you know if mokafive obeys the gpl?Sep 03 17:01
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cubevectorseems I can compile and run qt4 stuff after allSep 03 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer the KDE one (kdemicroblog)Sep 03 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @thp Gorgeous !MeeGo UI screenshots: http://meego.com/developers/ui-design-guidelines/handset/ui-customization-guidelines/use-flowsSep 03 17:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Use Flows | MeeGo .::. Size~: 26.48 KBSep 03 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] @schestowitz I have not the slightest idea what/who that actually isSep 03 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] Interview with Lennart Poettering (Pulse Audio Creator) at GUADEC. Watch here: http://bit.ly/9WNj9NSep 03 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @gbraad not impressed. Are waiting that long for that?Sep 03 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @jra Someone needs to use TinyOgg. :) Here is a Flash-free version: http://tinyogg.com/watch/ozuvz/Sep 03 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] ♺ @mairin: @dpic of course I would strongly recommend Fedora :) if for any reason, the amazing communitySep 03 17:26
schestowitzcubevector: one program?Sep 03 17:32
cubevectoryes lmms for music creationSep 03 17:32
schestowitzI tried it onceSep 03 17:33
schestowitzlet me launch itSep 03 17:33
schestowitz libgnomeprint2.2-data?Sep 03 17:34
schestowitzNeeds lots of gnome things?Sep 03 17:34
schestowitzlibgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libpqxx-2.6.9ldblSep 03 17:35
schestowitz  libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomecups1.0-1 libfaac0 libfaad0Sep 03 17:35
cubevectorschestowitz, nopeSep 03 17:36
cubevectorI compiled it on vectorlinuxSep 03 17:36
schestowitzWTH? http://twitter.com/TechRights/Sep 03 17:36
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cubevectorif you run configure on a KDE system it only uses KDE libs, not gnomeSep 03 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Using open source tools to set up OpenID (Part 2) for holiday Weekend Project: http://bit.ly/dumeUG #linuxSep 03 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gbraad RT @thp Gorgeous !MeeGo UI screenshots: http://ur1.ca/1hcjcSep 03 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @jra: Interview with Lennart Poettering (Pulse Audio Creator) at GUADEC. Watch here: http://bit.ly/9WNj9NSep 03 17:36
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cubevectornot sure how to use it, need to see a tutorialSep 03 17:37
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/BartHanssens/statuses/22891690093 "hmm, afaik OracleOffice is just the name for the commercial #OOo ? Used to be StarOffice..."Sep 03 17:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Bart Hanssens: @schestowitz hmm, afaik Or ... .::. Size~: 11.98 KBSep 03 17:37
schestowitzNow, that's a relief.Sep 03 17:37
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gnufreexhiSep 03 17:38
schestowitzo/Sep 03 17:39
schestowitz"we must remark the fact that FF is the only big-corporation free browser #FF" http://twitter.com/jesgar/statuses/22885847682Sep 03 17:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / jesgar: @schestowitz we must remar ... .::. Size~: 11.93 KBSep 03 17:39
schestowitza foundation-based oneSep 03 17:39
schestowitzI use FF too.. Someone has to test the most "Standard" browser. Also, all these puppet heads base everything on "marketshare" http://twitter.com/coolguy4linux/statuses/22883937368Sep 03 17:40
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schestowitzI support Firefox because without it we betray what freed us and also have no foundation managing/representing people on the WebSep 03 17:40
cubevectorFF isn't the only corporation free browser thoughSep 03 17:41
cubevectorthere's tons :)Sep 03 17:41
cubevectorkonquerorSep 03 17:41
cubevectorlinksSep 03 17:41
cubevectorlynxSep 03 17:41
cubevectoramayaSep 03 17:41
gnufreexEpiphanySep 03 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Stupidity. Women cannot work as cashers? Seen much, but didn't thought it could go that far.Sep 03 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "puppygirl" throwing dogs in the water has been identified. If she plays it smart, she might even get a wad of cash for her crime.Sep 03 17:41
cubevectorw3mSep 03 17:42
gnufreexI use Firefox because it is best.Sep 03 17:42
gnufreexOf 5Sep 03 17:42
gnufreexAnd only freeSep 03 17:42
cubevectoroh and chrome :)Sep 03 17:42
gnufreexChrome is propriatarySep 03 17:42
cubevectoryou may have heard of it :)Sep 03 17:42
cubevectoroh is it?Sep 03 17:42
gnufreexYes, read the TOSSep 03 17:42
cubevectornot open?Sep 03 17:42
gnufreexNoSep 03 17:42
gnufreexChromium is openSep 03 17:42
gnufreexBut it lacks feauturesSep 03 17:43
gnufreexIt is Open-Core modelSep 03 17:43
schestowitzcubevector: the largest oneSep 03 17:43
cubevectorkonqueror isn't badSep 03 17:44
schestowitzgnufreex: yes Chrome is proprietarySep 03 17:44
schestowitzSOme people fawn over itSep 03 17:44
ThistleWebchrome is like all other google apps and services, in this case it's a data mining app in the form of a web browserSep 03 17:44
schestowitzAnd some Mac cultists will say "but Safari uses Webkit, so it's open"Sep 03 17:45
schestowitzor "hypePad is open cause it renders HTML5"Sep 03 17:45
gnufreexYes... I laugh when I hear that...Sep 03 17:45
gnufreexBut then I get sad when I realize they are seriousSep 03 17:45
cubevectorMac always suckedSep 03 17:45
cubevectorLisa was ridiculously pricedSep 03 17:45
schestowitzThistleWeb: +1Sep 03 17:45
cubevectorof course Xerox boxes were expensive too, even more soSep 03 17:46
schestowitzcubevector: Steve bought his daughter?Sep 03 17:46
ThistleWebit might be a great web browser but it's primary function is data miningSep 03 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laforge they appear to have hacked a Linux distro they won't name to make a hypervisorSep 03 17:46
gnufreexI just yesterday watched video wen Woz defends troll AllenSep 03 17:46
ThistleWebthe better they make it as a web browser the more people use it, meaning the more data it minesSep 03 17:47
gnufreexWhen you listen Steve Jobs as long as Woz did, your brain failsSep 03 17:47
gnufreexSame taking point as Apple fanboysSep 03 17:47
gnufreex*talkinSep 03 17:47
gnufreexgSep 03 17:47
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1019542/wozniak-hates-open-sauceSep 03 17:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                     Wozniak hates open sauce - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 53.08 KBSep 03 17:48
schestowitzhttp://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/Apple-Guru-Dares-Solution-Providers-to-Dream/1/Sep 03 17:49
schestowitz""Theres always a group of people that wants to undo the forces of industry that have given us so much in terms of wealth, and theres always people who want things to be free," Wozniak said. "The open-source movement starts with those sort of people. But it still has such good points that have nothing to do with whether its free or not. The idea of developing something and then making your solution known. Spread the information so theSep 03 17:49
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schestowitzworld can grow from it." "Sep 03 17:49
gnufreex"group of people who want to undo the forces of industry that have given us so much in terms of wealth"Sep 03 17:49
schestowitz$$$$Sep 03 17:49
gnufreexYesSep 03 17:49
schestowitz$$$---$$$$Sep 03 17:50
schestowitz   /Sep 03 17:50
schestowitz ___Sep 03 17:50
schestowitz^ Steve x2Sep 03 17:50
gnufreex$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Sep 03 17:50
gnufreex$$Sep 03 17:50
schestowitzIf it does not make money, it's not innovativeSep 03 17:50
gnufreexoh noes, open source wants to take his moneysSep 03 17:50
schestowitzIf it's not expensive, it's rubbishSep 03 17:51
schestowitzIf you are reading this, you awww getting vewwwy vweeey swwwwepySep 03 17:51
gnufreexThat is Apple fanboy's logicSep 03 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Hoto make DVD from holiday pics w/ !Freesoftware? Easy, w/ Imagination (capital "I"). More sound control via Pitivi (ugly Mpeg2 though)Sep 03 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The PS3 jailbreak is released, under !GPLv3! http://github.com/psgroove/psgroovSep 03 17:51
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gnufreexThink different (read: Let Jobs think for you)Sep 03 17:51
schestowitzMany in companies of large scale toSep 03 17:51
schestowitz*tooSep 03 17:51
schestowitzOnly by price-fixing can they imprison more workersSep 03 17:52
schestowitzThey dread the idea of pharma being funded by government to treat the illSep 03 17:52
schestowitzOr semi-conductor research being done by taxpayers, which is already the case a waySep 03 17:52
schestowitzMany dummies thing that Intel brough microchipsSep 03 17:53
schestowitzhad they learned history they'd know it comes from academiaSep 03 17:53
schestowitzWho pays academia?Sep 03 17:53
schestowitzTuition and tax, hardly investments from commerceSep 03 17:53
gnufreexPeopleSep 03 17:53
schestowitzSo then some profs get patentsSep 03 17:53
schestowitzOut of taxpayers' workSep 03 17:53
schestowitzWhich they paid forSep 03 17:53
schestowitzAnd create a monopolySep 03 17:53
gnufreexYou pay taxes to support monopolySep 03 17:54
gnufreexPerfect crimeSep 03 17:54
schestowitzVoila, not taxpayers will need to pay AS MUCH AS FOR A WHOLE computer to just have it write pseudo-OOXML documentsSep 03 17:54
schestowitzSoftware margins when there's no competitionSep 03 17:54
schestowitzAnd if you get HIV, good luck paying for cocktailsSep 03 17:55
schestowitzNot that they lack the recipe :-)Sep 03 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Registration deadline for #olf extended, 1000th registrant wins a prize package: http://2tu.us/2mmz -- I'll be there!Sep 03 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Im on Skype (finally) please feel free to contact me (screen name tim.openbytes)Sep 03 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] “The Bubble Nebula”: http://bit.ly/dnHia7Sep 03 17:56
gnufreexI lost you here... it is posible to get HIV from software... xDSep 03 17:56
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schestowitzgnufreex: no, just a famous example of overpriced drugsSep 03 17:57
gnufreexI get it now...Sep 03 17:57
schestowitzBut I don't know how the development of it was fundedSep 03 17:57
gnufreexI was jokingSep 03 17:58
gnufreexI am doubt there is ANY good from patents. Not just software. I think all are bad.Sep 03 17:59
schestowitzThere isSep 03 17:59
schestowitzJust not for everyoneSep 03 17:59
gnufreexHahaSep 03 17:59
schestowitzIt's good for those who garden it (lawyers)Sep 03 17:59
gnufreexI meant for inovationSep 03 17:59
schestowitzAnd for those who fund the lawyersSep 03 17:59
gnufreexAnd for that purpose that patents are invented forSep 03 18:00
gnufreexFor making progres faster.Sep 03 18:00
gnufreexAnd such crapSep 03 18:00
gnufreexThere is evidence that they do oposite in every field they are allowedSep 03 18:00
gnufreexHardware, just look x86 monopolySep 03 18:01
gnufreexSoftware...Sep 03 18:01
gnufreexI don't even need to give an example what patents did to softwareSep 03 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram it looks like the Silver Lie logoSep 03 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] @carlopiana mpeg2 patent should laps in the next 2/3 years, no? IIRC only one or two are still standingSep 03 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In fact it is good that #pino cannot login to twitter ATM, I don't miss that part of the timeline. identi.ca is a better place!Sep 03 18:01
gnufreexBussines methods... just look IBM's patent trolling patentSep 03 18:02
gnufreexIs there any field where patents are useful ?Sep 03 18:02
gnufreex(except for lawyers)Sep 03 18:02
schestowitzMaybeSep 03 18:03
schestowitzI just haven't found it yet.Sep 03 18:03
schestowitzI'll let you know if/when I doSep 03 18:03
gnufreexHaha. I didn't found it either.Sep 03 18:04
schestowitzHonestly though, at the start I just knew software patents were madness cause it's my fieldSep 03 18:04
schestowitzThen I learned about the grievances of Novartis victimsSep 03 18:04
schestowitzBillyG invests in them BTWSep 03 18:04
schestowitzWhile pretending to provide 'shots' to kids in Africa :-)Sep 03 18:05
schestowitzBut anyway, then I found out about MonsantoSep 03 18:05
schestowitzLast week we run "Week of Monsanto" (awareness)Sep 03 18:05
schestowitzUncle Bill is making money with them too. Maybe Jobs is better off keeping his money to himselfSep 03 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] "Synaptic Is Going Bye Bye Soon" http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/synaptic-is-going-bye-bye-soon.html !ubuntuSep 03 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz Thats a very fair point Roy and thanks for reminding me of it...I must admit to using Chromium but it was FF that "freed" me.Sep 03 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BECTA was created to 'simplify' procurement but eventually it got corrupted by the procured vendor(s?) and died. #USPTO should be the same.Sep 03 18:06
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schestowitzI'd rather see some of those rich people recognised for the greedy ones they are and not add to it by also causing /more/ damage and employing "marketers" (liars) to spin itSep 03 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes Firefox freed a lot of the Web (remember the old slogan). Browsing the Web in Linux was hard 10 years ago. No standards; MSIESep 03 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Paul Tagliamonte: "Synaptic Is Going Bye Bye Soon" http://goo.gl/LRU4 via #WebUpd8Sep 03 18:11
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gnufreexhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Nuxeo-present-FISE-a-RESTful-semantic-engine-1072370.htmlSep 03 18:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nuxeo present FISE, a RESTful semantic engine - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.54 KBSep 03 18:12
gnufreexAlfresco is going to get competition.Sep 03 18:12
schestowitzhttp://slated.org/is_g34_vapourwareSep 03 18:13
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schestowitzgnufreex: I don't fancy alfresco anymoreSep 03 18:13
schestowitzgpl->lgplSep 03 18:13
schestowitzAnd more 'open' core nowSep 03 18:13
gnufreexThey are accepting GPL FUDSep 03 18:14
schestowitzMac AsaySep 03 18:14
gnufreexAnd they said they will go Apache in futureSep 03 18:14
gnufreexThey are making Activiti BPM under ApacheSep 03 18:14
gnufreexto replace jBPMSep 03 18:14
gnufreexwhich is LGPLSep 03 18:14
gnufreexI think IBM is presuring them, they don't want to OEM jBPMSep 03 18:15
gnufreexwith LotusSep 03 18:15
schestowitzYeahSep 03 18:16
schestowitzMacA also promoted ApcheSep 03 18:16
schestowitzI think when Raymond did itSep 03 18:16
schestowitzAnd Redmond tooSep 03 18:16
schestowitz~2009 h1Sep 03 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nice! Blackberry-like Android from Acer - http://is.gd/eTtXi - but should get #froyo ASAP. Donut is so '95 ;-)Sep 03 18:16
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gnufreexHere is IBM spindoctor about that http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source/activiti-bpm-project-questions-value-lgpl-gnu-license-331Sep 03 18:17
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/why-apache-is-not-the-bottom-of-the-open-source-incline/4511 .Sep 03 18:17
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schestowitz.JulySep 03 18:17
schestowitz"Matt Asay is beginning to remind me of those people who, in the wake of 9-11 or Hurricane Katrina, found themselves questioning their political assumptions and switched sides."Sep 03 18:18
schestowitz"Then, despite high praise for Eric Raymond and disquiet toward Richard Stallman, he pretty much answers his own question."Sep 03 18:18
schestowitzMac's blog: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10286964-16.htmlSep 03 18:18
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schestowitzgnufreex: if you like GPL, then you're a smelly hippie /sarcasmSep 03 18:19
gnufreexYes I am, really.Sep 03 18:19
gnufreex:-)Sep 03 18:19
gnufreexI have long hair and a beard.Sep 03 18:20
schestowitzYou live in the streets tooSep 03 18:20
schestowitzAnd sing "join us now and share the software"Sep 03 18:20
MinceRhmSep 03 18:20
schestowitz"wehehehehe free hackers"Sep 03 18:20
gnufreexWell, my house is next to streetSep 03 18:20
gnufreexduhSep 03 18:20
MinceRi like GPL but have short hair and no facial hairSep 03 18:21
MinceRdo i break the universe then?Sep 03 18:21
schestowitzNoSep 03 18:21
schestowitzMy sarcasm was blunt enough to be perceivableSep 03 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz For me, Firefox "freed" me due to it showing a solid non MS solution was possible..this led on to other discoveries....Sep 03 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Xonotic is the new gpl'd Nexuiz: http://www.xonotic.org !fsf !gnu !lpitaliaSep 03 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Aptitude Removed From #Ubuntu 10.10 #Maverick #Meerkat http://is.gd/eTuEo /by @skomliSep 03 18:21
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schestowitzIf you like GPL, you will be shamed of yourself and if you support wikileaks, you support pedopheliaSep 03 18:22
gnufreexschestowitz: I was trying to be funny. Laugh!Sep 03 18:22
gnufreexlolSep 03 18:22
schestowitzIt's all just jokes at stereotypesSep 03 18:22
schestowitzAnd labelsSep 03 18:22
gnufreexAnd lies. And statisticsSep 03 18:23
schestowitzThe society daemonises beards tooSep 03 18:23
schestowitzThey are naturalSep 03 18:23
schestowitzhttp://openattitude.com/2010/08/10/ubootnu-versus-the-neck-beards/Sep 03 18:23
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MinceR:>Sep 03 18:23
gnufreexlolSep 03 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Aptitude + Synaptic - anyone still wants them? http://ur1.ca/1hcy9 "http://ur1.ca/070e6 I prefer apt-get/yumSep 03 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] What about VMWare ??? Hostile, neutral, or pro FLOSS ??? Any1 ???Sep 03 18:26
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MinceRi don't like beards, but i dont daemonize themSep 03 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I like Apt-Get / Synaptic. They seem to give more freedom in repos lists.Sep 03 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: !KDE 4.5 http://ur1.ca/1hcze "I think the KDE developers have finally gotten this stability thing down."Sep 03 18:31
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gnufreexI think people who claim that GPL is communism are plain stupidSep 03 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Listening to #lullabot podcast talk about the new site, sadly some script they use disables some firefox addons http://bit.ly/d1pO76Sep 03 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Barcelona hosts Open Ed 2010 & @MozillaDrumbeat Festival: Learning, Freedom & the Web. Register now! http://bit.ly/cdXPQ4 #OERSep 03 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AstroTurfing Group (part of a network of professional AstroTurfers) is smearing Google. It's called 'Consumer' 'Watchdog'. Watch out.Sep 03 18:36
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gnufreexGPL is most capitalistical license there isSep 03 18:36
gnufreexBSD is communism, because it assumes that nobody will run away with the code, and that contributors wont sue users for patentsSep 03 18:37
gnufreexBSD folks use advocacy to convince companies to shareSep 03 18:37
gnufreexAnd yet, GPL folks get called out for whiningSep 03 18:38
gnufreexWhle BSD folks are whining and complainingSep 03 18:38
gnufreexGPL just sue and get their code.Sep 03 18:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/48354563#notice-48745014 "I like Apt-Get / Synaptic. They seem to give more freedom in repos lists."Sep 03 18:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.07 KBSep 03 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Intro to "three strikes" copyright infringement rules in Dragon*con EFF track | http://bit.ly/9DGXW3 #dragoncon #riaa #mpaa #ipSep 03 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Consumer' 'Watchdog' is AstroTurfing group "Grassroots Enterprise". Can somone find out who hired Grassroots Enterprise to do this? #fraudSep 03 18:41
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schestowitz"He holds four software patents."Sep 03 18:45
schestowitzWow. and we are all VERY impressed.Sep 03 18:45
schestowitzhttp://www.centredaily.com/2010/09/02/2185586/rajant-adds-two-software-engineers.htmlSep 03 18:45
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schestowitzinterviewer: "What code have you produced"Sep 03 18:46
schestowitzinterviewee: none, but I liaised with some lawyers and we wrote some verbal descriptionsSep 03 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith #VMware is proprietary software. They are also GPL violators. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/VMwareSep 03 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: Apotheosis of #Australian alcohol-neologism: http://flic.kr/p/8xJr5B http://awe.sm/5A1HRSep 03 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @jobsworth: @doctorow: From the latest Lewis Hyde book: "True citizens are not the audience of their g... http://awe.sm/5A1HSSep 03 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Humm, I knew they were not friends, but was willing to situate them: neutral or hostile. Hostile then. Thanks.Sep 03 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Beleaguered Novell Buoyed by VMware Linux Deal http://ping.fm/vxm3mSep 03 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] fedoraproject.org redesign update http://ur1.ca/1hd61 they got a talented artist !fedoraSep 03 18:51
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MinceRdamn, the omg ubuntu guy is cluelessSep 03 18:54
_Goblinwhats he said?Sep 03 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @GetNightingale Songbird 1.7b1 just released, and it is possible that the first release of Nightingale will be based on Songbird 1.8...Sep 03 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Songbird 1.8.0 adds support for more devices http://ur1.ca/1hd8d Shame on them for neglecting free platformsSep 03 18:56
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MinceRlots of stupid things at   http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-35-year-old-with-neck-beard.htmlSep 03 18:57
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MinceRlike basically that people who value their own freedom are stupid and should be abhorredSep 03 18:57
schestowitzMinceR: just the one guy?Sep 03 18:57
MinceRhe also attacks those who call GNU/Linux GNU/Linux because he's so stupid he doesn't realize what the difference between GNU/Linux and android isSep 03 18:58
schestowitzThe site is often written like it's infantileSep 03 18:58
schestowitzin-fan-tileSep 03 18:58
MinceRwell, with the brain of a child, certainlySep 03 18:58
MinceRa "special" childSep 03 18:58
schestowitzinfant-fanSep 03 18:58
MinceRhe also advertises m$ and vista7Sep 03 18:58
MinceRi wonder when will he make up his mind about whether he prefers noobuntu or vista7Sep 03 18:59
schestowitzMinceR: where are these advertised?Sep 03 18:59
MinceRin the linked articleSep 03 18:59
schestowitzI link to the site a lot, it's not all badSep 03 18:59
schestowitzIt's just their attitude I dislikeSep 03 18:59
schestowitzThey make Linux users look more infantile than Mac usersSep 03 18:59
_Goblinbtw is anyone here on skype?Sep 03 19:00
MinceRnot meSep 03 19:00
MinceRi don't want to be a part of that botnet :>Sep 03 19:00
schestowitzme neitherSep 03 19:01
schestowitzI have SIP, _GoblinSep 03 19:01
schestowitzekiga]Sep 03 19:01
_GoblinI got to get around to looking at Ekiga.....Sep 03 19:01
_Goblinusing Skype (hopefully) to talk to some long distance relatives.Sep 03 19:01
schestowitzOmaYahweh!Ubuntu!Muslim/Christian/SatanicEditionSep 03 19:01
schestowitz_Goblin: you can use GoogleSep 03 19:02
schestowitzThey bought a company that analyses voiceSep 03 19:02
schestowitzSo they they can advertise to you based on private conversationsSep 03 19:02
_GoblinIm not really into this video call thing....it was merely for speed that I installed Skype since my relatives are running it alreadySep 03 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Design Team: This week in design – 3 September 2010 http://goo.gl/rmI7Sep 03 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "James Moore, the Canadian Culture Minister, has blocked me on Twitter." http://ur1.ca/1hdbe by the people, for the people!?Sep 03 19:06
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MinceRSatanic Edition is hated by the "in" crowd, thoughSep 03 19:07
MinceRbecause it doesn't support their bullshit "morality"Sep 03 19:07
_GoblinIve deployed SE before.Sep 03 19:08
_Goblinright....reboot time....plugging in my amp et al.Sep 03 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Barcelona hosts Open Ed 2010 & @MozillaDrumbeat Festival: Learning, Freedom & the Web. Register now! http://bit.ly/cdXPQ4 #OERSep 03 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @silner: yes, no Aptitude in Ubuntu 10.10, now a "featured" app proposed for installation :-/ First one I re-installed (beta test)Sep 03 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Twitter is collecting your clicks http://ur1.ca/1hdct Thanks, but no thanks #privacySep 03 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Added a little info about the new free Atheros 802.11n driver for USB devices to our hardware directory at: http://ur1.ca/0c0d !fsfSep 03 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @DaHammerstein @jamie_love Huffpo: White House Blocks Disclosure of Secret intellectual property trade text http://is.gd/eTe3r #acta #failSep 03 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Big Brother Watch: One more thing on Twitter's "disgusting data landgrab" http://ur1.ca/1hdd8 there are tricks past itSep 03 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AP Interview: UN telecoms chief urges data sharing http://ur1.ca/1hddr "data sharing" = "spying"Sep 03 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #ACTA text a "matter of national security"? http://is.gd/eTz3s Obama, you must be kidding me! Wait a minute, got it, ACTA == weapon!Sep 03 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @tonicucoz: the source code of h-node.com is now available (GPLv3) http://www.h-node.com/source/notes_0.1.html !trisquel !gnuSep 03 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @firusvg: Demystifying porting C/C++-based Applications from !Windows to !UNIX Part 1 http://is.gd/eTqCJ Part 2 http://is.gd/eTqEb !ibmSep 03 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Look at the screen in the picture at http://is.gd/eTz3s (ACTA negotiations). Cant't you see it? Subliminal brainwashing! ;-)Sep 03 19:21
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cubevectorGNU+LinxSep 03 19:25
cubevectorblah :)Sep 03 19:25
cubevectorthis keyboard isn't that goodSep 03 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rockbox For Android Now Semi-Functional http://ur1.ca/1hdfu "These builds are unofficial"Sep 03 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Things are getting quiet as we roll toward a 3-day holiday weekend in the USA. Hard to find coworkers today!Sep 03 19:26
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cubevectorthe net is really getting pollutedSep 03 19:28
cubevectorit gets worse every yearSep 03 19:28
cubevectorI'd love to be able to capture some of the flash video stuffSep 03 19:29
schestowitzpolluted how?Sep 03 19:29
schestowitzYou can filterSep 03 19:29
cubevectorstuff like ustreamSep 03 19:29
cubevectorjust the web pages filled with flash crapSep 03 19:29
schestowitzoh, flash-pollutedSep 03 19:29
cubevectoryesSep 03 19:30
schestowitzAdobe Trash is MinceR's faultSep 03 19:30
schestowitzHe provoked it :-pSep 03 19:30
MinceRi deny responsibiitySep 03 19:30
MinceRs/ii/ili/Sep 03 19:30
cubevectorwhen did the flash crap start?Sep 03 19:30
cubevectorI can certainly recall the pre-flash eraSep 03 19:30
gnufreexMacromedia started itSep 03 19:31
schestowitzFlesh era?Sep 03 19:31
gnufreexAdobe bought MacromediaSep 03 19:31
cubevectorahSep 03 19:31
gnufreexMacromedia was Mac software companySep 03 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Google Wave Freed As Open Source Project http://www.muktware.com/news/03/2010/332 !foss !talk !waveSep 03 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] libtaskmanager now sports launchers, the kind of things one sees in docks, thanks to Anton Kreuzkam. next: integration with tasks widgetSep 03 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] just switched to Kontact from trunk to help in testing the betas of Kontact2. i'm excited and cautious. excitement! danger! :)Sep 03 19:31
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schestowitzgnufreex: I've know some dogs who eat pooSep 03 19:31
schestowitzMacromedia is still steamin'Sep 03 19:32
gnufreexlol... What does that mean. schestowitzSep 03 19:32
schestowitzAnd it's full of holesSep 03 19:32
schestowitzMacromedia is s*Sep 03 19:32
schestowitzI knew it back when it was conceivedSep 03 19:32
schestowitzWhen you had to download it in the 90sSep 03 19:32
schestowitzWindows 98Sep 03 19:32
cubevectorit's hella slowSep 03 19:33
schestowitzMacromedia should have had it momma get an abortionSep 03 19:33
cubevectorespecially for old computer aficionadosSep 03 19:33
schestowitzs/it/itsSep 03 19:34
schestowitzThe Web was going along OKSep 03 19:34
schestowitzNetscapeSep 03 19:34
cubevectorMACromedia, I should have made the connection earlierSep 03 19:34
schestowitzThen ShockwaveSep 03 19:34
schestowitzMachromediaSep 03 19:34
schestowitzMuck-romedia?Sep 03 19:34
schestowitzMehcromedia.Sep 03 19:35
cubevectoryou know what? I'm giving Haiku a go soonSep 03 19:35
cubevectordoes Haiku have flash?Sep 03 19:35
schestowitzhttp://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1267_signs.jpgSep 03 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] (and yes, that pun was in fact deliberate. Sorry.)Sep 03 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Sure I like country music / I like mandolins / But right now I need a Telecaster / Through a Vibrolux turned up to tenSep 03 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The joys of Adobe Trash Player. [IMG] http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1267_signs.jpgSep 03 19:41
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sebsebsebschestowitz: gnufreex _Goblin Uh OMG Ubuntu people.  So in comments here, got one guy basically saying Ubuntu is perfect, and another calling Shuttleworth a lord it seems. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/revamped-default-wallpaper-coming-to-ubuntu-10-10/Sep 03 19:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Revamped' default wallpaper being designed for Ubuntu 10.10  .::. Size~: 55.3 KBSep 03 19:42
gnufreexoh, ok, now it's everything clear... you know... a wannabe-movement wallpaper.Sep 03 19:43
gnufreexIt's ugly but, come on, it's the best thing in which every user linux need to concentrate on! The light that enter throught the Canonical house, and focus on the unity of the the MOTUS! Ooooh my dear Shuttleworth lord! ... -.-Sep 03 19:43
gnufreexAt less we have Debian prog that take care about the stability problems, right?Sep 03 19:43
gnufreex^That?Sep 03 19:43
sebsebsebgnufreex: yep thatSep 03 19:43
gnufreexI think it's sarcasmSep 03 19:44
sebsebsebgnufreex: maybe, but there is a lot of fanboyism on that site as wellSep 03 19:44
cubevectorhard to tell sometimesSep 03 19:44
sebsebsebcubevector: indeedSep 03 19:44
gnufreexI guess it's better to be Ubuntu fanboy than Apple fanboy. And some people needs something to worship..Sep 03 19:46
gnufreexnah..Sep 03 19:46
sebsebsebyeah I guess being a Ubuntu fan boy is much better than being a Apple or Microsoft fan boySep 03 19:46
schestowitz_Goblin: I'm on sip:schestowitz@ekigaSep 03 19:46
*sebsebseb isn't that keen on the fan boy sites, new lookSep 03 19:46
*schestowitz agreesSep 03 19:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah old one was better really,  it seemsSep 03 19:48
MinceRi prefer to worship myselfSep 03 19:48
gnufreexThe problem is that ubuntu is changing it's identity. Microsoft and Apple advocates try to get Ubuntu fanboys to bash FSFSep 03 19:48
gnufreexand free softwareSep 03 19:48
sebsebseboh?Sep 03 19:48
sebsebseb@ gnufreexSep 03 19:48
cubevectorI'm a FOSS fanSep 03 19:49
gnufreexWell, just look how much Microsoft advocates are on UFSep 03 19:49
sebsebsebtheres a lot of ignorance when it comes to Ubuntu as wellSep 03 19:49
cubevectorso GNU+Linux, Haiku, AROS, it's all goodSep 03 19:49
cubevectorcorebootSep 03 19:49
sebsebsebthese people don't reolize a lot of them, that they should be very loyal to FSFSep 03 19:49
sebsebsebRichard StallmanSep 03 19:49
sebsebsebupsteram Gnome, and that kind of thingSep 03 19:49
sebsebseband a lot don't even know about software freedom just yet, evenSep 03 19:50
cubevectornon programmers are slower to understandSep 03 19:50
sebsebseband what's worse is quite a lot don't even know distros that others exist, and so onSep 03 19:50
gnufreexThere is anti-FSF lobby in GNOME too. Just look at that case when they wanted to vote about splithing GNOME from GNU projectSep 03 19:50
sebsebsebback in a little bitSep 03 19:50
gnufreexThat is all initiated by Microsoft and Apple advocates.Sep 03 19:51
cubevectorthey didn't split though right?Sep 03 19:51
gnufreexIt started by Migel de Icaza advertising SilverlightSep 03 19:51
gnufreexon GNOME planetSep 03 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @carlopiana: The odd thing is, even though I'm a GUI fan, I'll really miss aptitude. I use autoclean a lot. I don't know a GUI alternative.Sep 03 19:51
gnufreexthen RMS complainedSep 03 19:51
gnufreexand then some started bashing RMSSep 03 19:51
gnufreexAnd then one dude proposed voteSep 03 19:52
gnufreexTo split gnome from GNU projectSep 03 19:52
gnufreexthat all happened on GNOME mailing listSep 03 19:52
cubevectorshamefulSep 03 19:52
gnufreexMore recently, de Icaza ridiculed RMS in direct reply to himSep 03 19:53
gnufreexI will try to find linksSep 03 19:53
cubevectorhe sounds like a real dickSep 03 19:54
cubevectordo you use gcc de Icaza?Sep 03 19:54
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gnufreexhttp://www.osnews.com/story/22610/GNOME_To_Split_from_GNU_Project_Sep 03 19:56
gnufreexThis is spined by Holwerda from OSNewsSep 03 19:56
gnufreexHere is initial post by de IcazaSep 03 19:56
gnufreexhttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Nov-23.htmlSep 03 19:56
gnufreexHere is the thread on GNOME mailing list http://www.mail-archive.com/foundation-list@gnome.org/msg04036.htmlSep 03 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @carlopiana #ACTA text a "matter of national security"? http://is.gd/eTz3s Obama, you must be kidding me! Wait a minute, got it, ACTA ...Sep 03 19:56
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gnufreexRead the whole thread to get the pictureSep 03 19:57
gnufreexStallman got attacked, but he remained politeSep 03 19:57
gnufreexAnd then he got painted as trouble makerSep 03 19:57
cubevectorhe is trouble :)Sep 03 19:58
cubevectortrouble for the bad guysSep 03 19:58
cubevectorthe thing people don't think about often enough is that GNU gcc is pretty important stuffSep 03 19:59
schestowitz[19:51] <gnufreex> then RMS complainedSep 03 19:59
schestowitz I think it later turned out that some VMs annoyed himSep 03 19:59
cubevectorwe didn't have good free compilers in the 80'sSep 03 19:59
schestowitzNot Microsoft's de Icaza, according to another versionSep 03 20:00
cubevectorso if RMS is complaining about something, it's probably worth listening toSep 03 20:00
schestowitzgnufreex: Holwerda likes Microsoft, Mono, and IcazaismSep 03 20:00
schestowitzAFAIK, he also disliked FSF very muchSep 03 20:01
gnufreexRMS said that people mailed him about inapropriate content on GNOME planet. That includes VMware employees promoting VMware and De Icaza promoting SilverBlight.Sep 03 20:01
gnufreexPeople mailed him and expected him to do something about it.Sep 03 20:02
*sebsebseb Is backSep 03 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @openbytes Google Wave Freed As Open Source Project http://www.muktware.com/news/03/2010/332 !foss !talk !waveSep 03 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Help our reader mths w/ providing incentives to get people to project meetings | comment at http://bit.ly/cy5gpS #lawoftwofeetSep 03 20:06
gnufreexHere is again De Icaza shitting ridiculing RMS... or at least I read it as a ridicule. You guys can say if it realy is http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-March/msg00104.htmlSep 03 20:06
cubevectorbah, not worth readingSep 03 20:06
cubevectorjust noobs arguingSep 03 20:07
cubevectorall snarky and disrepectfulSep 03 20:07
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cubevectorno good ideasSep 03 20:08
cubevectormay as well stick with KDESep 03 20:10
cubevectoror Icewm :)Sep 03 20:12
MinceRor fvwmSep 03 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's Cindy Cohn talks about Righthaven and copyright trolling on Media Minutes from Free Press: http://eff.org/r.3qySep 03 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Wine 1.3.2 Updates Gecko, Other Changes http://ping.fm/isYbzSep 03 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Google denies support for paid applications in Australia - Africa IBTimes http://ping.fm/lal2gSep 03 20:16
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sebsebsebschestowitz: gnufreex  So does this mean that they were going to keep the not so good wall paper in 10.10, but since loads of people complained now they will change? https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg03579.htmlSep 03 20:20
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gnufreexsebsebseb: Where is the wallpaper?Sep 03 20:21
schestowitzsebsebseb: it's a placeholderSep 03 20:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: yes thats what I thought, butSep 03 20:21
schestowitzOr maybe it's a suicideSep 03 20:21
sebsebsebreading the omglink I linked to a little while ago, and the link I just gave just now,  maybe it wasn'tSep 03 20:21
schestowitzFedora is redoing looks at the momentSep 03 20:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: it seems they weren't planning on changeing it after the beta,  according to something Mark put in the link I just linked toSep 03 20:22
sebsebsebI mean on the mailing listSep 03 20:22
sebsebsebschestowitz:  on the subject of Fedora,  remember Bruce who sometimes comes here?  He has been choosen as a winner for the default wall papers.Sep 03 20:22
sebsebseband oh they are much better than the Ubuntu wall papers as well for 10.10Sep 03 20:23
schestowitzwth? http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/music/news/e3ie243dea31e63926817b65c03ec49c82c?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20thr%2Fmusic%20%28The%20Hollywood%20Reporter%20-%20Music%29Sep 03 20:24
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sebsebsebschestowitz: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Supplemental_Wallpapers_WinnersSep 03 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: F14 Artwork Supplemental Wallpapers Winners - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 26.15 KBSep 03 20:24
schestowitzBruce CowanSep 03 20:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: yepSep 03 20:25
sebsebsebaltough  the Fedora winners only need at least three votesSep 03 20:25
schestowitzHmmm... maybe I'll change my konversation bgSep 03 20:25
schestowitzbeen the same for agesSep 03 20:25
sebsebsebkonversation background aye,  I haven't really bothered to customize Konveration,  I mean I have tried some stuff in it beforeSep 03 20:26
sebsebsebnot themewise thoughSep 03 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] BREAKING: Facebook Now Displaying All Liked News Articles In Search - AllFacebook http://ping.fm/Gr8LhSep 03 20:26
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gnufreexhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Denali_from_mckinley_princess_lodge.jpgSep 03 20:27
gnufreexI used that wallpaper long time ago. Got it from KDElookSep 03 20:27
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gnufreexAnd now it is nominated for new FedoraSep 03 20:28
gnufreexI thought they only use new wallpapersSep 03 20:28
sebsebsebgnufreex: well graphics are graphics I suppouse, and doesn't really matter that much, how old they areSep 03 20:28
sebsebseband yeah a photo is a photoSep 03 20:28
gnufreexwell... yeahSep 03 20:29
sebsebsebgnufreex: in fact one of the best wall papers is still Dawn of UbuntuSep 03 20:29
sebsebsebwhich was in the Edgy repo or whateverSep 03 20:29
sebsebseboptionallySep 03 20:29
gnufreexI guess it doesnt matterSep 03 20:29
sebsebsebthe Ubuntu tree as I would call itSep 03 20:29
sebsebseband can get it from the 10.04 repo as wellSep 03 20:29
sebsebsebI loved that backgroundSep 03 20:30
sebsebsebalso one of the best wall papers is still the Ubuntu 8.10Sep 03 20:30
sebsebsebdefaultSep 03 20:30
schestowitzRight now I have as my konversation background a drawing I made when I was about 6Sep 03 20:31
sebsebseboh?Sep 03 20:31
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sebsebsebschestowitz: by the way I didn't reolize,  that you could put a background on Konversation, or I didn't really think about suchSep 03 20:31
sebsebsebI mean KDE is rather customizableSep 03 20:31
sebsebsebdoesn't suprise me, if you can put  a background for KonversationSep 03 20:31
gnufreexReading De Icaza's blog... Microsoft couldn't hope to get better shilSep 03 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Human Rights For Apes - tweetpocalypse http://ow.ly/2zhB8 « I thought this was joke, but it's interesting anyway.Sep 03 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] F14 Artwork Supplemental Wallpapers Winners http://ur1.ca/1eotx Nice selection here. Why can't Ubuntu get artwork right?Sep 03 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @eff EFF's Cindy Cohn talks about Righthaven and copyright trolling on Media Minutes from Free Press: http://eff.org/r.3qySep 03 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @joindiaspora , what's with this "open source developer" vs. "consumer" dichotomy?Sep 03 20:31
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schestowitzsebsebseb: xchat lets you do translucencySep 03 20:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh you just used the link :DSep 03 20:32
schestowitzThat's what I'm doing in KDE right nowSep 03 20:32
schestowitz75% translicent with the background changing every 1/2 hourSep 03 20:32
schestowitz*ucentSep 03 20:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: your using xchat?Sep 03 20:32
schestowitzNoSep 03 20:32
sebsebsebwhats translucency ?Sep 03 20:33
schestowitzBut the win-manager does itSep 03 20:33
schestowitzsebsebseb: you're on gnome+compiz?Sep 03 20:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: well  not right nowSep 03 20:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: Gnome Shell Preview in Mandriva :)Sep 03 20:33
sebsebsebalso with Compiz I never get that far with it at all, when I do stuff with itSep 03 20:33
sebsebsebI get the cube and wobberly windows, and thats about itSep 03 20:33
schestowitz[20:31] <gnufreex> Reading De Icaza's blog... Microsoft couldn't hope to get better shilSep 03 20:33
schestowitzHe has more following the agent FloydSep 03 20:34
gnufreexRed Hat has to buy Novell and split the Ximian gangSep 03 20:34
schestowitzHell noSep 03 20:34
sebsebsebgnufreex: I read something by Steven J. Vaghen Nicholas, that suggested that VMware should buy themSep 03 20:34
schestowitzNovell has bad managementSep 03 20:35
_Goblinsebsebseb: you got problems with compiz?Sep 03 20:35
sebsebseb_Goblin: I don't know,  maybe I just don't know how to set it up properly for more effectsSep 03 20:35
gnufreexschestowitz: Why not? Fire the management. Fire half of employees, They are MS tools anywaySep 03 20:35
gnufreexsebsebseb: That would be dissaster. VMware has Microsoft people in managementSep 03 20:36
_Goblinsome of the effects (such as fire/rain etc) are activated with hotkeys....and things like the Compiz gears won't be seen unless your cube has transparency.Sep 03 20:36
gnufreexThey would be good mach... for destroying free software projectsSep 03 20:36
gnufreexIt is not about VMware helping MicrosoftSep 03 20:37
gnufreexthey wont  do thatSep 03 20:37
_Goblinsebsebseb: I must admit getting some of the effects are not made very clear....Sep 03 20:37
gnufreexIt is about Microsoftian cultureSep 03 20:37
gnufreexthat VMware hasSep 03 20:37
gnufreexwe don't need another Microsoft.Sep 03 20:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: gnufreex http://blogs.computerworld.com/16847/vmware_should_buy_novellSep 03 20:37
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cubevectorMicrosoftian BrainwashingSep 03 20:38
sebsebsebanyway Steven quite likes OpenSuseSep 03 20:38
sebsebsebfrom stuff I have read beforeSep 03 20:38
sebsebsebcubevector: What is?Sep 03 20:38
cubevectoralmost everything: government, schools, OEMs, stores, advertising...Sep 03 20:39
gnufreexIf VMware buys Novell expect folowing to happen:Sep 03 20:39
cubevectorcollectively it's brainwashingSep 03 20:39
sebsebsebcubevector: indeedSep 03 20:39
sebsebsebcubevector: brainwashing and vender lock in, and then Micrsooft are a bit like vampires, but when it comes to money as wellSep 03 20:39
gnufreexDe Icaza makes even bigger astroturfing squadSep 03 20:39
sebsebsebcubevector: uh I mean, but with money instead, typed wrong thingSep 03 20:39
gnufreexThey slip Mono in SpringSep 03 20:39
gnufreexMake Mono midlewareSep 03 20:39
gnufreexThey put Mono in ZimbraSep 03 20:40
gnufreexadvertise Mono as biggest thing since slice breadSep 03 20:40
sebsebsebyeah Microsoft suck money out of people like vampires, and take their soul as well, when they get properly locked in.  Ok  its not realy like this, and Microsoft probably aren't really evil, but you guys get the idea :DSep 03 20:40
gnufreexAnd Red hat doesnt have itSep 03 20:40
cubevectoractually I do thing of Microsoft as evilSep 03 20:41
cubevectorit's just a different kind of evilSep 03 20:41
cubevectorthing->thinkSep 03 20:41
gnufreexSpring already has Spring.net frwameworkSep 03 20:42
sebsebsebSpring???Sep 03 20:42
sebsebsebWhat's Spring?Sep 03 20:43
gnufreexVMware's midleware divisionSep 03 20:43
cubevectorStallman knows this better than we do because he lived in a free software society but lost it laterSep 03 20:43
gnufreexIt was open source company onceSep 03 20:43
sebsebsebother than a month of the year, and Mandriva Spring 2010.1 for example, which is really a summer releaseSep 03 20:43
gnufreexSpringSourceSep 03 20:43
sebsebsebmonth of the year, uh I meant to put, seasonSep 03 20:43
sebsebsebcubevector: he lived in a free software society?Sep 03 20:44
cubevectorhackers of MITSep 03 20:44
cubevectorthey freely shared all the codeSep 03 20:44
gnufreexall software was free until 1977 or soSep 03 20:45
gnufreexThat is when software was made copyrightableSep 03 20:45
sebsebsebgnufreex: sounds about rightSep 03 20:45
cubevectorwe didn't see Linux or BSD until 1992 or soSep 03 20:45
sebsebsebgnufreex: to it all being free sofware,  before 1977 or soSep 03 20:45
cubevectorso 1978->1991 could be called the first dark ages of computingSep 03 20:46
cubevectorI also think of 1995-2000 as another dark agesSep 03 20:46
gnufreexYeahSep 03 20:46
sebsebsebcubevector: why 1995-2000?  also isn't it more like 1985 to 2010 :DSep 03 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Rumour has it that Apples original name for their unsocial network was KaChing. Now it is called Ping, but it will be Apples #FailWave IMHO.Sep 03 20:46
sebsebsebcubevector: and then it wil be 1985 to 2011 and so on as the years go bySep 03 20:47
cubevectorsebsebsebv, well mainly because after the DOJ went after Microsoft things changed a lotSep 03 20:47
sebsebsebcubevector: and yes I mean since MicrosoftSep 03 20:47
sebsebsebhowever if Microsoft hadn't come alongSep 03 20:47
cubevectorafter 2000 a lot of people knew about Linux, and stopped using windowsSep 03 20:47
sebsebsebApple might have gained most computer users, and then things woudn't have been good either, I expectSep 03 20:47
sebsebsebor IBM might have had  the worlds most used OS on the PCSep 03 20:47
sebsebseband yep closed sourceSep 03 20:48
cubevectorI was dabbling in 1994 with a bunch of stuff like Minix but I didn't really like itSep 03 20:48
gnufreexIronicaly, software was free until DOJ went affter IBM for bundling (free) software with mainfreamesSep 03 20:48
cubevectorso when win95 came out it was really badSep 03 20:48
sebsebsebcubevector: except it was seen as good, by most computer usersSep 03 20:48
sebsebsebsince thats what came with their PC, and thats all they knewSep 03 20:48
sebsebsebwell except for those that knew Windows 3.1 that isSep 03 20:48
sebsebseband most  computer users  didn't know DOS in 1995 I guess?Sep 03 20:49
cubevectorthe BIG IDEA was Stallman's thoughSep 03 20:49
cubevectorand that is the idea of a portable operating system that wasn't tied to specific hardwareSep 03 20:49
cubevectorand of course the source code was availableSep 03 20:50
sebsebsebcubevector: the Big idea, that didn't take off properly, I guess, thenSep 03 20:51
sebsebsebyour on about GNU I guess?Sep 03 20:51
cubevectorbut we still have a problem... mainly IntelSep 03 20:51
sebsebseband Linux and yeahSep 03 20:51
sebsebsebGPL and yeahSep 03 20:51
cubevectorit did take off via the internet, just not via OEMsSep 03 20:52
sebsebsebcubevector: Intel played dirty before,  made some deal with whoever it was, so they woudn't  sell AMDSep 03 20:52
sebsebseband got fined a lot as a result as wellSep 03 20:52
sebsebsebthat was quite recentSep 03 20:52
sebsebseband thats probably not the only time, they have played dirty, eitherSep 03 20:52
cubevectorimagine a 1 gigahertz 6502 cpuSep 03 20:53
sebsebsebcubevector: yeah Internet is really helping to spread opensource/freesoftware these days, but not quite enough,  for it to properly compete against Microsoft and Apple.  Also yeah Apple use quite a lot of open source them selves.Sep 03 20:53
cubevectortwo things: buying used computers then putting Linux or whatever on itSep 03 20:54
sebsebseband Ubuntu isn't quite good enough for the main streame just yet, and it may never beSep 03 20:54
cubevectorOR buying a computer without a hard-driveSep 03 20:54
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/alanbelltolc/statuses/22914054053 "Ubuntu doesn't have much of a problem with the *supplemental* wallpapers, just the default one might be a little uninspiring"Sep 03 20:55
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schestowitzI guess that's true, but what I meant was, Ubuntu never presented itself with an adorable wallpaper by defaultSep 03 20:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: was that a reply to you on Twitter?Sep 03 20:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: Why did it not show here, if so?Sep 03 20:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: also they did with 8.10,  and maybe 8.04Sep 03 20:56
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/homembit/statuses/22912321180 "I'm preparing a good text about Oracle :)" I wonder if it's "good" as in positiveSep 03 20:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Jomar Silva: @schestowitz I'm preparing ... .::. Size~: 11.78 KBSep 03 20:56
schestowitz"Jane Goodall: What Separates Us From The Apes? "Sep 03 20:58
schestowitzWaitSep 03 20:58
schestowitzAren't we apes and primates too?Sep 03 20:58
schestowitzWe're not monkeysSep 03 20:58
sebsebsebschestowitz: well Steve Ballmer might be :DSep 03 20:58
cubevectorcommon ancestorSep 03 20:58
cubevectorwe are a different species :)Sep 03 20:58
cubevectorBallmer is iffy thoughSep 03 20:58
schestowitzsebsebseb: we don't have twitter tweets hereSep 03 20:59
schestowitzoauth broke itSep 03 20:59
sebsebseboauth?Sep 03 21:00
schestowitzsebsebseb: read http://arstechnica.com/security/guides/2010/09/twitter-a-case-study-on-how-to-do-oauth-wrong.arsSep 03 21:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Compromising Twitter's OAuth security system .::. Size~: 33.38 KBSep 03 21:00
schestowitzcubevector: we're cousinsSep 03 21:01
cubevectora ufo came down an blasted some of the more curious apes with radiation :)Sep 03 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Google moves to profit from its “crown jewels” — your data" - http://is.gd/eTGNbSep 03 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've noticed, when I read right wing thinkers, I feel myself moving further to the left, but left wing thinkers don't move me. OK I'm odd!Sep 03 21:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Google moves to profit from its crown jewels  your data | Inside Google .::. Size~: 42.34 KBSep 03 21:01
cubevectorsorry, proto-apes I should saySep 03 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer argh!! You're linking to an AstroTurfing Group. I'll write about it tomorrow. http://ur1.ca/1hea5Sep 03 21:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Did Microsoft Hire Consumer Watchdog to Attack Google? | Techrights .::. Size~: 124.1 KBSep 03 21:06
gnufreexschestowitz: Why do you think Red Hat buying Novell is bad idea? (aside from price being to high)Sep 03 21:10
gnufreexI think they should slice them, buy just some partsSep 03 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Latest comp.os.linux.advocacy filters: http://slated.org/files/COLA-filters-20100822.tar.bz2 - Clean up Usenet!Sep 03 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Doing user setup, updates, config on #Fedora partition before the Linux #Mint installation.Sep 03 21:11
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schestowitzgnufreex: it's a waste of Red Hat's moneySep 03 21:16
schestowitzNovell also services WIndows boxesSep 03 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz OK, will wait and read your take ...Sep 03 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz I quite liked that "elephant skin" one....at least it fit with the older colour scheme..Sep 03 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Several people whom I follow have linked to an AstroTurfing group's site today, so I've started a Wiki page about it: http://ur1.ca/1hechSep 03 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes got a link to it?Sep 03 21:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Consumer Watchdog - Techrights .::. Size~: 12.95 KBSep 03 21:16
gnufreexI think Red Hat can't afford VMware having SUSESep 03 21:17
schestowitzSome used to say VMware would kill Red HatSep 03 21:17
schestowitzBut with other strategies in mindSep 03 21:17
gnufreexIt is waste of Red Hat's money to buy entire company, but hey could buy SUSE and Ximian gang (to shut up Mono propaganda)Sep 03 21:17
schestowitzThe apes can evolveSep 03 21:18
schestowitzMicrosoft would supply them with aid and safety etsSep 03 21:18
schestowitz*etsSep 03 21:18
schestowitz*netsSep 03 21:18
gnufreexYou mean, to get into RH management?Sep 03 21:18
schestowitzThey are already in Novell management and boardSep 03 21:19
schestowitzSome dualsSep 03 21:19
gnufreexI think Red Hat could make Mono diferent division for some time, pretend they develop it. Move it to GPLv3. And then spin it off.Sep 03 21:19
gnufreexIf VMware gets it, it could turn uglySep 03 21:20
gnufreexIf monkeys get fired, that wont kill MonoSep 03 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3uf1fzu-V7E/R9cn4ZjdQ9I/AAAAAAAAAk0/0Z1m_1M0sV4/elephant-skin.jpgSep 03 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz Sorry, should have used TinyURLSep 03 21:21
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gnufreexBut if Red Hat controls it, and stop advocacy, it might make it develop like it should in first place: only for need. And not be used for free software.Sep 03 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Middle East peace talks underway in Washington http://ur1.ca/1heejSep 03 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz Thanks for this. BigG is many things, but I agree a lot of anti-Google hysteria is sourced in Microsoft, through front groups.Sep 03 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] This is funny, I cannot seem to reproduce a reported bug?Sep 03 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Apple TV - small, $99, but does anybody want to pay 99 cents/show? http://ht.ly/18R56YSep 03 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2010/09/apple-tv---small-99-but-does-a.html .::. Size~: 3.72 KBSep 03 21:31
schestowitzhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/323500;_ylt=AhNTiMFoNmXTmljoeeEUOG6s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNiamxydW9yBGFzc2V0A2NzbS8yMDEwMDkwMi8zMjM1MDAEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM0BHBvcwMxBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDYWZsLWNpb3ByZXNpSep 03 21:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFL-CIO president to Sarah Palin: Change or be linked with McCarthyism - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 117.45 KBSep 03 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #MusOpen Uses #Diaspora Model to Set Classical #Music Rights Free http://goo.gl/fb/NJiIM #tech #opensource /by @WebWhy via @opensourcewaySep 03 21:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  MusOpen Uses Diaspora Model to Set Classical Music Rights Free | WebProNews .::. Size~: 39.32 KBSep 03 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Note to self: make sure you doublecheck the config file path the user reports when accepting a bug, especially if #PAM is involved (DAMN!)Sep 03 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes yeah, that's a great wallpaperSep 03 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Just added the ghostery plugin to firefox. #insightful info. You should try it too. http://www.ghostery.com/Sep 03 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz Suits the orange theme very well....."The forgotten wallpaper" - Probably the best Ive seen Canonical offer.Sep 03 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ayatana project now over 1000 merge requests. That's a lot of Open Source code! http://code.launchpad.net/ayatana/+mergesSep 03 21:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Ghostery .::. Size~: 13.88 KBSep 03 21:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Merge Proposals for The Ayatana Project : Code : The Ayatana Project .::. Size~: 59.18 KBSep 03 21:41
gnufreexMicrosoft Floyd again defends patent trolls. I couldn't bother to read all his comments, but here it is  http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/08/hold-the-h264-celebrations/index.htmSep 03 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blogs - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts  - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 58.98 KBSep 03 21:49
gnufreexHe defends MPEG LASep 03 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Installing Ubuntu #Maverick Meerkat on my netbookSep 03 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @FFII De Gucht and Obama vs. European Parliament http://www.keionline.org/node/802 #ACTA > ACTA is big ChangeSep 03 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII De Gucht and Obama vs. European Parliament http://www.keionline.org/node/802 #ACTA > ACTA is big ChangeSep 03 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII Patents on fictional aliens, no problem http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPATD265754 #uspto #real #patent #humorSep 03 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Day after European Parliament votes against ACTA, Obama expresses support | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 23.41 KBSep 03 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Day after European Parliament votes against ACTA, Obama expresses support | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 23.41 KBSep 03 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Toy figure - Google Patent Search .::. Size~: 14.66 KBSep 03 21:51
schestowitzgnufreex: yes, he announced that he commented thereSep 03 21:52
gnufreexHe now announces comments?Sep 03 21:52
gnufreexWho the hell he thinks he isSep 03 21:53
gnufreex!Sep 03 21:53
_Goblinwho are we talking about?Sep 03 21:53
gnufreexFlorian MuellerSep 03 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @FFII Karel De Gucht probably said the truth thoughSep 03 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz @FFII It's a design patent. That's sth different IMHO. http://is.gd/eTKMc - more like registered design.Sep 03 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Design patent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 36.44 KBSep 03 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @schestowitz: They patented Yoda http://is.gd/eTKXoSep 03 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yoda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 131.85 KBSep 03 22:01
gnufreexI just now got that I linked Mac Asay's article on identi.caSep 03 22:01
schestowitzYoda be madSep 03 22:01
schestowitzHe does articles?Sep 03 22:02
schestowitzhe has blog postsSep 03 22:02
gnufreexYeah, thatSep 03 22:02
gnufreexBlog post on EL regSep 03 22:02
schestowitzAlthough boundaries blur over timeSep 03 22:02
gnufreexHe always starts with 'Open...and Shut'Sep 03 22:02
gnufreexMaybe he wants to say that all open source should be shutSep 03 22:03
gnufreexor shootSep 03 22:03
gnufreexIt wouldn't suprise meSep 03 22:03
schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/O394E/Sep 03 22:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: Monty Python's Flying Circus - Raymond Luxury Yacht .::. Size~: 5.28 KBSep 03 22:03
schestowitzgnufreex: I think the editors put it thereSep 03 22:03
schestowitzEl Reg needs FOSS peopleSep 03 22:04
schestowitzThey have TimpthySep 03 22:04
MinceRit's easier to charge for it if it's shutSep 03 22:04
schestowitzIt's an IBM boosterSep 03 22:04
schestowitzMainframe/UNIX expertSep 03 22:04
gnufreexThey have Matt Briant, he is a troll in commentsSep 03 22:04
gnufreexhahaSep 03 22:04
gnufreexthat guy is funnySep 03 22:04
gnufreexhe bashes Sun for a living.Sep 03 22:05
gnufreexOr it just looks like thatSep 03 22:05
gnufreexRHT mkt cap: 6.99     http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:RHTSep 03 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat, Inc.: NYSE:RHT quotes & news - Google Finance .::. Size~: 70.78 KBSep 03 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] At last #techrights is seen as a reliable source of information amongst posters on Dutch websites and forums. I am not any longer on my own!Sep 03 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @benoonbenoon: I'm presenting a Radio 4 programme about video game music. Project needs a researcher. ... http://awe.sm/5A1XnSep 03 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @aaronsw: .@mindhacks blog is blocked at U of C hospitals. Science is too racy, apparently. http://awe.sm/5A1XoSep 03 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: Turns out I'm presenting the #Hugo for best short story and I'm also the backup-backup accepter for any w... http://awe.sm/5A1XpSep 03 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @lessig: RT @fixcongress: Welcoming @joeymornin, our new Online Director: http://bit.ly/9UKCYS http://awe.sm/5A1XqSep 03 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @diveintomark: THE NEW APPLETV: IT'S REVOLUTIONARY, I TELL YA. YOU'RE JUST HOLDING IT WRONG. http://awe.sm/5A1XrSep 03 22:21
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Announcing our new Online Director | Fix Congress First .::. Size~: 13.93 KBSep 03 22:21
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MinceRlolSep 03 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Israel accused of piracy in flotilla attack http://ur1.ca/1hev5Sep 03 22:26
gnufreexThis is why I think VMware buying Novell could be ugly http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/01/vmware_application_development_platform/Sep 03 22:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VMware app dev platform gazes beyond SpringSource Java • The Register .::. Size~: 27.96 KBSep 03 22:30
gnufreex"VMworld VMware says that its Cloud Application Platform  – a means of building and deploying applications that has grown up around the SpringSource Java framework – will eventually embrace other programming languages, including Ruby-on-Rails, PHP, and perhaps .NET."Sep 03 22:31
gnufreexlest wordSep 03 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @silner: apt-get install aptitude. Don't get why they removed it, but reverting is still easy. GNU/Linux rocks!Sep 03 22:31
gnufreex*last wordSep 03 22:31
schestowitzThis is *it*? http://homembit.com/2010/09/an-obituary-for-larry-ellison.htmlSep 03 22:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An obituary for Larry Ellison | void life(void) .::. Size~: 20.81 KBSep 03 22:37
schestowitzGates invests his money (shares) in companies that profit from malaria. He should know this...Sep 03 22:38
schestowitzgnufreex: yes, drinking up competitorsSep 03 22:38
gnufreexschestowitz: I was thinking, VMware might add Mono to have C# in SpringSource midleware. That would spread C# even more and .NET would look like it is "open".Sep 03 22:42
schestowitzit already does .NET IIRCSep 03 22:43
schestowitzInterface21 (?)Sep 03 22:43
schestowitz" MokaFive (@MokaFive) is now following your tweets (@schestowitz) on Twitter. "Sep 03 22:44
schestowitzThat's what I get for accusing them of possible gpl violations/Sep 03 22:44
gnufreexThat is SpringSoruce, it was called Interface21 before... it is not .NET. It is JavaSep 03 22:45
gnufreexThere was some Spring.net effort, I think they wanted to port C# to JVMSep 03 22:45
gnufreexbut that was never production readySep 03 22:46
gnufreexAnd I don't think they develop it anymoreSep 03 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oh! It was evil grandma instructing little red riding hood to drown the puppies in the river. http://is.gd/eTNRK #failSep 03 22:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFP: Bosnian police find girl who tossed puppies into river .::. Size~: 8.81 KBSep 03 22:46
MinceRit's better to not let the puppies be conceivedSep 03 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] For the weekend: Drupal founder, @Dries Buytaert, on passion, believing, and the open source way | http://bit.ly/aJZa7A #opensourceSep 03 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lamm #Oracle Office is a rebranded nonfree product separate from #OpenOffice. #ORCL is HEAVILY downplaying OOo. See FAQ PDF..Sep 03 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lamm Bizarrely (or purposely?) #ORCL put the FAQ & other relevant info in PDFs instead of just showing it on the site.Sep 03 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some people say that OracleOffice is just StarOffice rebranded. Any definite status report from Oracle?Sep 03 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/9/2010: #Wine 1.3.2, Great !Fedora Site Redesign http://techrights.org/2010/09/03/fedora-site-redesign/ !techrightsSep 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Drupal founder, Dries Buytaert, on passion, believing, and the open source way | opensource.com .::. Size~: 42.85 KBSep 03 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 3/9/2010: Wine 1.3.2, Great Fedora Site Redesign | Techrights .::. Size~: 121.73 KBSep 03 22:51
schestowitz[22:48] <MinceR> it's better to not let the puppies be conceivedSep 03 22:54
schestowitzWhy not?Sep 03 22:54
MinceRso that there won't be so many dogs on the planetSep 03 22:54
schestowitzJust make less people. There's lots of them already and they use us fossilsSep 03 22:54
MinceRyes, make less people, tooSep 03 22:54
schestowitz*upSep 03 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison: God Doesn't Think He's Larry Ellison (same for other predators like Rockefeller and Gates)Sep 03 22:56
schestowitzOh Gosh... "probably, but he is doing something about it (you kwnow what he did with mosquitos in an event in US ?)"Sep 03 22:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/homembit/status/22922393978Sep 03 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Jomar Silva: @schestowitz probably, but ... .::. Size~: 11.99 KBSep 03 22:59
schestowitzMe: @homembit I don't think you understand what "Gates Foundation" really is and your posts drips PR of his. See http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueSep 03 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights .::. Size~: 52.7 KBSep 03 22:59
schestowitzI heard from someone in Brazil that Gates does a lot of PR thereSep 03 22:59
schestowitzNewspapers are corrupt, which helpsSep 03 22:59
schestowitzIn the UK the Guardian exposes him every now and thenSep 03 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @maco No, "don't you know how to take a compliment?" is not the correct response to street harassment. See comic: ur1.ca/1hdyr (NSFW)Sep 03 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF's Cindy Cohn talks about Righthaven and copyright trolling on Media Minutes from Free Press: http://eff.org/r.3qySep 03 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons Barcelona hosts Open Ed 2010 & @MozillaDrumbeat Festival: Learning, Freedom & the Web. Register now! http://bit.ly/cdXPQ4Sep 03 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Media Minutes: September 3, 2010 | Free Press .::. Size~: 23.2 KBSep 03 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Open Education Events in Barcelona - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 14.34 KBSep 03 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @tonicucoz: the source code of h-node.com is now available (GPLv3), you can find it here ur1.ca/1hcw0Sep 03 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] ACTA Action: Call on Obama to end the secrecy, reject the treaty: http://ur1.ca/1hfb7 !fsf !lpSep 03 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Stop offshore drilling in Alaska http://ur1.ca/1hfbaSep 03 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA Action: Call on Obama to end the secrecy, reject the treaty &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 22.78 KBSep 03 23:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @johnsu01 ACTA Action: Call on Obama to end the secrecy, reject the treaty: http://ur1.ca/1hfb7 !fsf !lpSep 03 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] My mother has just sent me a friend request on Facebook. Hell, I didn't even know that she has a Facebook account...Sep 03 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The plot thickens http://bit.ly/9JPA9GSep 03 23:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA Action: Call on Obama to end the secrecy, reject the treaty &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 22.78 KBSep 03 23:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Andy Coulson 'lied' over News of the World phone-hacking – reporter | Media | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 182.24 KBSep 03 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @johnsu01: ACTA Action: Call on Obama to end the secrecy, reject the treaty: http://ur1.ca/1hfb7 #copyfight #actaSep 03 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Crashes Rival's Event ( #OpenOffice .org Conference) Using Moritz Berger http://ur1.ca/1hfdi #odf #entryism #hungary #ooxmlSep 03 23:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA Action: Call on Obama to end the secrecy, reject the treaty &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 22.78 KBSep 03 23:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Crashes Rivals Event (OpenOffice.org Conference) Using Moritz Berger | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.64 KBSep 03 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johnsu01 #ACTA Action: Call on Obama to end the secrecy, reject the treaty: http://ur1.ca/1hfb7 > ACTA good for 0.001% of the populationSep 03 23:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] A Linux Demo For Amnesia: The Dark Descent http://bit.ly/9ylWZZ #linuxSep 03 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @johnsu01 ACTA Action: Call on Obama to end the secrecy, reject the treaty: http://ur1.ca/1hfb7 !fsf !lpSep 03 23:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] A Linux Demo For Amnesia: The Dark Descent .::. Size~: 16.32 KBSep 03 23:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA Action: Call on Obama to end the secrecy, reject the treaty &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 22.78 KBSep 03 23:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♻ @maco No, "don't you know how to take a compliment?" is not the correct response to street harassment. See comic: ur1. ...Sep 03 23:56
oiaohmschestowitz:  the attempts to disrupt openoffice and Linux confs by MS is not new.    You normally don't see it any more at the Australian Linux confs.Sep 03 23:58

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