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yuhongAnd, for those who call Windows 7 a service pack, when has MS ever changed the UI on a service pack:?Sep 17 00:00
yuhongAnd, for those who call Windows 7 a service pack, when has MS ever changed the UI on a service pack?Sep 17 00:00
ThistleWebsince the original release was rejected en masse by the general pubicSep 17 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink there are no blobs in the driver. they're distributed as separate pieces of non-Free SoftwareSep 17 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva No. My point is it is impossible to be a technology user without some compromise.Sep 17 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Klaus Knopper speaks: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/knoppix-founder-klaus-knopper-speaks/Sep 17 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink I'm not convinced the harm is even close to the same, so probably they won't get the same treatmentSep 17 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @richslxh Klaus Knopper speaks: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/knoppix-founder-klaus-knopper-speaks/Sep 17 00:00
ThistleWebvista was the first time they've had thatSep 17 00:00
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yuhongI know.Sep 17 00:01
ThistleWebif vista was accepted as they expected, they wouldnt need to change the UISep 17 00:01
yuhongFalse, though.Sep 17 00:01
yuhongThey would have added it anyway.Sep 17 00:01
yuhongThe name Vista 8 is a bit more ridiculous than Vista 7 .Sep 17 00:02
yuhongThe name Vista 8 is a bit more ridiculous than Vista 7, BTW.Sep 17 00:02
ThistleWebI do wonder though, why are you back to troll? Bored?Sep 17 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink compromising the long-term goals sounds like a terrible idea to meSep 17 00:02
yuhongI am not really trying to troll, just debunking myths.Sep 17 00:02
yuhongYes, I hasn't been there in a long time, in fact, I hasn't been reading this site in a long time.Sep 17 00:03
yuhongI think a lot of why Win32k had to be put into the kernel has to do with the nature of the Win32 API.Sep 17 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva The harm from not having the Broadcom blob source seems similar to that of not having the original chip source of any display chip.Sep 17 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink temporarily accepting to not have freedoms that we can't reasonably exercise anyway doesn't even sound like compromise to meSep 17 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Hence it is unclear to me why Broadcom's opening of the driver source is worthy of any protest.Sep 17 00:04
ThistleWebanyhoo, I'm having no part of this convo, have funSep 17 00:04
yuhongokay.Sep 17 00:04
schestowitzknown trollSep 17 00:04
yuhongI know.Sep 17 00:04
yuhongBut then there is Wine.Sep 17 00:05
schestowitz:-)Sep 17 00:05
schestowitzI'm glad we agreeSep 17 00:05
schestowitzThat you trollSep 17 00:05
yuhongI am not intentionally trolling.Sep 17 00:05
yuhongWhat I am saying that I know you consider me a troll.Sep 17 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink are the difficulty and cost of modifying software and manufacturing hardware are similar?Sep 17 00:05
yuhongThe main reason I hasn't been there in a long time, BTW, is just that I has been reading a lot of something else.Sep 17 00:06
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yuhongI do want to discuss.Sep 17 00:06
yuhongI do want to discuss and debunk myths.Sep 17 00:06
yuhongI think a comparison of the interface to the X server to the Win32 API is in order.Sep 17 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink so, who's this person who's allegedly protesting that Broadcom released Free drivers?Sep 17 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] #watched The Road imdb.com/title/tt0898367/ ★★★★☆ decent, though lacking … something; ending was a slap to the face for ViggoSep 17 00:07
yuhongOn the Broadcom drivers, many forget that the code release don't support older ahrdware.Sep 17 00:07
yuhongOn the Broadcom drivers, many forget that the code release don't support older hardware.Sep 17 00:08
ThistleWebthe point of trolling is to start an argument, and sap people's time and attentionSep 17 00:08
yuhongYep, I am starting an discussion.Sep 17 00:08
ThistleWebwhich is exactly what you came here to doSep 17 00:08
yuhongYes.Sep 17 00:08
ThistleWeboops, my badSep 17 00:08
yuhongYep, I am starting an discussion.Sep 17 00:08
ThistleWebfeel free to talk to yourselfSep 17 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why #Google Should Have AstroTurfer ‘Consumer’ ‘Watchdog’ Investigated (or Sued) http://ur1.ca/1ncaaSep 17 00:09
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yuhongYep, I mentioned it in a comment that I had to post as. AC due to unrelated reasonsSep 17 00:09
schestowitzyuhong: how's Linux?Sep 17 00:10
schestowitzYou like it, don't you?Sep 17 00:10
yuhongYes.Sep 17 00:10
schestowitzYou said you develop around the kernelSep 17 00:10
yuhongI very much like it.Sep 17 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to @timlouisjazz "Untrue" - also "Elsie's Song" but due to !copyright I'll not actually quote lyrics in !inconstantmoonSep 17 00:10
yuhongI don't develop much.Sep 17 00:10
schestowitzwhat distro are you on right now?Sep 17 00:11
yuhongI spend more time debugging than developing.Sep 17 00:11
schestowitz[At this moment]Sep 17 00:11
yuhongI admit.Sep 17 00:11
yuhongUbuntu 10.04.1Sep 17 00:11
yuhongI burned a 64-bit CD that I planned to install on another computer.Sep 17 00:11
schestowitzYou said you wrote for the kernelSep 17 00:11
yuhongNot much.Sep 17 00:11
schestowitzAnd then we showed you lidSep 17 00:11
schestowitz*liedSep 17 00:11
schestowitzSo I view you as insincereSep 17 00:11
yuhongI don't actually submit patches, but I participate in discussions some time.Sep 17 00:12
Diablo-D3to be fair, I do more kernel dev than you do, yuhongSep 17 00:12
yuhongYes.Sep 17 00:12
Diablo-D3and linux doesnt currently ship my codeSep 17 00:12
yuhongOk.Sep 17 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Red Hat in the market for Novell? http://bit.ly/cBX8Pq #linuxSep 17 00:12
Diablo-D3I just participate in keeping bfs something thats not a pile of shitSep 17 00:12
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yuhongThat is part of why I know a lot of x86 assembly.Sep 17 00:13
yuhongI read it a lot when debugging.Sep 17 00:13
Diablo-D3waitSep 17 00:13
Diablo-D3hold upSep 17 00:13
Diablo-D3redhat wants to om nom nom novell?Sep 17 00:13
Diablo-D3this could be interestingSep 17 00:13
yuhongI don't nesserarly code much, but I debug much more often.Sep 17 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva The task of burning an FPGA is of similar difficulty to building a binary targetted at a different platform to the development toolSep 17 00:14
bruce89och, loads of people are rumoured I thinkSep 17 00:14
yuhongOn the Windows side I have a Hello program where I play with Win32 APIs, x86 assembly, and more.Sep 17 00:14
yuhongI don't touch it much recently.Sep 17 00:14
yuhonghttp://lkml.org/lkml/2010/1/15/356Sep 17 00:15
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yuhonghttp://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/8/233Sep 17 00:15
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yuhongSome  of the emails have bad formatting.Sep 17 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito: yep, well long live the web version!Sep 17 00:15
yuhongSee, while I don't submit patches, I do participate in discussions.Sep 17 00:16
ThistleWebwhen you'rre a known troll, EVERY comment will be interpretted as such, even if you don't intend it, and no matter how much you protest your innocence, people won't buy itSep 17 00:16
ThistleWebwhich begs the question, why do you come here?Sep 17 00:17
yuhongHow can I be taken off the list?Sep 17 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Implied by http://identi.ca/notice/50812269 but I have seen quite a few "shame there's a blob" messages from various people.Sep 17 00:17
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ThistleWebby going back in time and not trollingSep 17 00:17
yuhongWhat would be trolling?Sep 17 00:18
bruce89thisSep 17 00:18
yuhongWhat would be trolling?Sep 17 00:18
ThistleWebyou made your own bed, I'm guessing you don't like lying in itSep 17 00:18
yuhongYes.Sep 17 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Not just a theoretical topic BTW: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20016756-245.htmlSep 17 00:19
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yuhongWhat would be trolling?Sep 17 00:19
yuhongI mean, What is "this"Sep 17 00:19
bruce89asking "what would be controlling" isSep 17 00:19
bruce89oops, trollingSep 17 00:19
yuhongAnd I did not do that.Sep 17 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] it's getting harder and harder for me take light themes...I guess that mean darks ones have finally passed up light ones!Sep 17 00:20
ThistleWebyou come in to start an argument defending vistaSep 17 00:21
yuhongNot Vista, but more like 7.Sep 17 00:21
ThistleWebthat "could" be interpreted as an innocent discussion, but given your history, it's trolling, now you tell us you don't know what trolling is, and you want to be taken off the listSep 17 00:22
yuhongI am asking for an explanation.Sep 17 00:22
ThistleWebok, just don't do what you didSep 17 00:22
schestowitzyuhong has defended Vista here since 2008Sep 17 00:23
ThistleWebpart of dealing with anything is recognising itSep 17 00:23
yuhongI am not trying to defend Vista nowadays, though.Sep 17 00:23
ThistleWebaccepting that it's happened, apologising and making an effort to earn a second chanceSep 17 00:24
ThistleWebno, you just came in defending win7Sep 17 00:24
schestowitzTry to stick to the topic thenSep 17 00:24
schestowitzYou're like DaemonTrollSep 17 00:24
schestowitzYou change topic hereSep 17 00:24
schestowitzto WIndows being goodSep 17 00:24
ThistleWeboh for those who say it's a sp, they never chage UI'sSep 17 00:24
yuhongYes.Sep 17 00:24
ThistleWebjump straight in and start an argumentSep 17 00:24
yuhongYes.Sep 17 00:24
yuhongWhat is wrong with this?Sep 17 00:24
schestowitzHeh. http://identi.ca/conversation/50364367#notice-50840722Sep 17 00:25
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schestowitzThey didn't get the referenceSep 17 00:25
ThistleWebwell, to quote a line many women have used over time, "if you don't know, I'm not telling you"Sep 17 00:25
schestowitzIt was a reference/response to Wired saying the Internet is dead.Sep 17 00:25
yuhongWhat is wrong with starting an argument?Sep 17 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] #Sony, don't ever even think about downloading for me a SOCCER game.Sep 17 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Role Attribute Draft Published http://ow.ly/192vraSep 17 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA) Working Draft http://ow.ly/192vr9Sep 17 00:25
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yuhongI don't read wired magazine much.Sep 17 00:26
ThistleWeb<yuhong> What is wrong with starting an argument?  << and you wonder why you're getting shitSep 17 00:26
ThistleWebincapable of recognising the probnlem, yet determined to be given a second chanceSep 17 00:26
ThistleWebpart of fixing something is recognising itSep 17 00:27
yuhongYes, but tell me what is wrong first.Sep 17 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram @pookito It was a reference/response to Wired saying the Internet is dead.Sep 17 00:27
ThistleWebnah, you can figure that out yourselfSep 17 00:27
*ThistleWeb is bowing out of this convo, it's pointlessSep 17 00:27
yuhongWhat can I start an argument about?Sep 17 00:29
bruce89golden hamstersSep 17 00:30
ThistleWeb<yuhong> What can I start an argument about?  << that could be the title of a book on how to trollSep 17 00:30
yuhongBut anyway, on to the Broadcom driver topic.Sep 17 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "open" means "software written so well I'm not ashamed to show the code to the world." how's *your* code, Microsoft?.. !linux !fs !gnuSep 17 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz LOL, you forgot to say 'bazinga'Sep 17 00:30
yuhongThe most painful thing about the b43 driver is actually the firmware.Sep 17 00:31
yuhongIt is why it don't work out of box on Linux.Sep 17 00:31
yuhongIt is why it don't work out of box on Linux LiveCDs.Sep 17 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @rahulsundaram #disapora demanding full copyright control and a broad patent grant http://ur1.ca/1nc78 #failSep 17 00:34
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yuhongI just read this:Sep 17 00:36
yuhonghttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Common_Troll_TacticsSep 17 00:36
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bruce89hmm, that copyright thingy looks familiarSep 17 00:36
yuhongI try not to do many of these.Sep 17 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] So, sure looks like @joindiaspora is planning to go #Open_Core w/ #Diaspora. & people thought I was being alarmist. http://ur1.ca/1nc78Sep 17 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Because major motion picture studios are behaving badly in attempting to inflict draconian copyright laws on the whole world... !ACTA !c32Sep 17 00:37
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yuhongI may have done a few by accident.Sep 17 00:37
yuhongI will continue to put up links, is that OKay?Sep 17 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn Either that or they are badly advised (and have not read my article) or do not want a community.Sep 17 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...the only movies i see are from grocery store remainder bins, or used DVDs from my local video store. Thumbs up for One Night at McCool'sSep 17 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @webmink, we know @joindiaspora has been advised the entire summer by VCs, so it's no real surprise. VCs ♥ #Open_Core. #DiasporaSep 17 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] << doing my bit to not fund bad copyright law lobby... Every consumer butt in every theater seat pays for !ACTA, !DEAct and !BillC32Sep 17 00:42
yuhongWhat can I discuss about Windows?Sep 17 00:44
ThistleWebyou could find a windows channel and discuss it there, nobody here caresSep 17 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to @timlouisjazz version of "Walk The Line"... I doubt my country music Dad would like the jazzing up of the Johnny Cash classicSep 17 00:45
yuhongExcept that none of them are likely making the claims I am debunking?Sep 17 00:46
yuhongExcept that none of them are likely making the claims I am debunking.Sep 17 00:46
yuhongBut I can check.Sep 17 00:47
yuhongI may move it to Windows channel anyway.Sep 17 00:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Just heard on the TuxRadar podcast that a portion of the money Canonical makes from Ubuntu One Music store goes to a puppy organizationSep 17 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Great dinner with boot camp team at 518 in downtown Raleigh. http://ur1.ca/1ncsaSep 17 00:49
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yuhongAnd one last thing, I apologize if you thought I was lying about the my programmin.Sep 17 00:50
yuhongWhat I said now should be the truth.Sep 17 00:50
ThistleWeb"should be" huh?Sep 17 00:52
ThistleWebyou have no hopeSep 17 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] 10 !html5 Video Players: http://www.templates.com/blog/10-html5-video-players/Sep 17 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] AppSpotlight - a website dedicated for WebOS apps! http://apps.webosroundup.com/Sep 17 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @rahulsundaram #disapora demanding full copyright control and a broad patent grant http://ur1.ca/1nc78 #failSep 17 00:52
yuhongI was talking about my programming history?Sep 17 00:52
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yuhongI was talking about my programming history.Sep 17 00:52
yuhongNot about WIndows.Sep 17 00:52
ThistleWebwe don't careSep 17 00:52
ThistleWebyour credibility is shot to hellSep 17 00:52
yuhongI know.Sep 17 00:53
ThistleWeband yet you're still here, still trying to troll usSep 17 00:53
yuhongYes, I was.Sep 17 00:53
ThistleWebspeaks volumes about the "I wanna change" statement, even that was a lieSep 17 00:53
yuhongWhy?Sep 17 00:53
ThistleWebgive it upSep 17 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @rysiek "open" means "software written so well I'm not ashamed to show the code to the world." how's *your* code, Microsoft?.. !linux ...Sep 17 00:54
yuhongOkay, but I am just apologizing for the lying about my programming history.Sep 17 00:54
ThistleWebyou can't speak without lying, why should this be true?Sep 17 00:55
yuhong"you can't speak without lying," Evidence please?Sep 17 00:56
yuhong"you can't speak without lying," Evidence please.Sep 17 00:56
ThistleWebI give upSep 17 00:56
cubevectorof course he can speak without lying, no one lies 100% of the time :)Sep 17 00:56
*schestowitz nodsSep 17 00:56
yuhongThank you.Sep 17 00:56
*schestowitz writes a post about okiaSep 17 00:57
ThistleWebfair point, although when you lie a lot, the assumption is that everything is  alieSep 17 00:57
yuhongOf course, but I don't try to intentionally do it.Sep 17 00:57
yuhongWhich is why I made the apology.Sep 17 00:58
yuhongSometimes it happens by mistake.Sep 17 00:59
ThistleWebhence the "can't help yourself" sentimentsSep 17 00:59
schestowitz"It's in his nature"Sep 17 01:02
schestowitzyuhong the tortoiseSep 17 01:02
schestowitzI mean, scorpionSep 17 01:02
yuhongWhat do you meam?Sep 17 01:03
Diablo-D3[07:54:58] <yuhong> "you can't speak without lying," Evidence please.Sep 17 01:03
yuhongWhat do you mean?Sep 17 01:03
Diablo-D3Everything I say is a lie. The next thing I say will also be a lie: I am lying.Sep 17 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Some thoughts about how we should fix bad community processes - http://is.gd/fe7gi #communitySep 17 01:04
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yuhongWhat do you mean?Sep 17 01:04
ThistleWebah the old innocent dumbass routine "what do you mean?", anything to prolong a convoSep 17 01:05
ThistleWebisn't it about time someone kicked his ass?Sep 17 01:05
Diablo-D3ThistleWeb: to be fair, hes not the worst troll we've hadSep 17 01:05
ThistleWebI knowSep 17 01:05
ThistleWebhe's maybe the dumbestSep 17 01:05
Diablo-D3well, hes ill equipped for the task, thats for sureSep 17 01:05
ThistleWebthe point is to sap peoples time and energy by responding to himSep 17 01:06
ThistleWebhe's doing that just fineSep 17 01:06
yuhongYep.Sep 17 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @bkuhn These terms will be governed by the laws of the State of California and applicable U.S. Federal law. #uh #oh!Sep 17 01:07
yuhongYep, I have read this: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Common_Troll_TacticsSep 17 01:07
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Diablo-D3woahSep 17 01:08
Diablo-D3a how to guideSep 17 01:08
Diablo-D3just what the internet needs.Sep 17 01:08
yuhongAnd I try to avoid these tactics.Sep 17 01:08
ThistleWeband now he's in to test how long he can get away with it.......queue the "what do you mean?" replySep 17 01:08
Diablo-D3but what do you mean?Sep 17 01:09
*Diablo-D3 runsSep 17 01:10
ThistleWebthe fact that he knows his cover's well and truely blown, and at the point where he happily admits what he's doing and yet he's still here says a lotSep 17 01:10
Diablo-D3in other newsSep 17 01:13
Diablo-D3you know when you've found a good photographer?Sep 17 01:13
Diablo-D3http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1009/venusmoon_pascual_big.jpgSep 17 01:13
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yuhongOkay, back on the Broadcom driver topic.Sep 17 01:13
Diablo-D3its not photoshopped, hdr blended, or composited in any waySep 17 01:13
Diablo-D3http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100915.htmlSep 17 01:14
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yuhongI am not discussing Windows anymore, is that enough?Sep 17 01:14
Diablo-D3yuhong: oh shut up alreadySep 17 01:15
Diablo-D3we're already on to something more interestingSep 17 01:15
Diablo-D3such as that photoSep 17 01:15
yuhongIndeed, yes I am not discussing Windows anymore.Sep 17 01:15
ThistleWebyuhong: we don't careSep 17 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☂ Copyright Aggregation Essay: My essay on copyright aggregation in open source projects has finally moved to the ... http://bit.ly/buT4FESep 17 01:15
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Diablo-D3yuhong: then stop discussing that you've stopped discussing it.Sep 17 01:16
yuhongOk.Sep 17 01:16
yuhongThe recent Broadcom OSS driver release only cover newer cards.Sep 17 01:16
Diablo-D3not really an issueSep 17 01:17
yuhongThe most painful thing about it about the old drivers is actually the firmware.Sep 17 01:17
Diablo-D3broadcom chips fail so fast that older chips are becoming increasingly rareSep 17 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia, Zeitgeist, MeeGo/Maemo, and Moonlight/Mono Threat http://ur1.ca/1nd0t #novell #nokia #microsoftSep 17 01:17
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yuhongIt is why they don't work out of box on LiveCDs.Sep 17 01:18
yuhongAnd I had to suffer the pain.Sep 17 01:18
yuhongOn an old HP laptop that was BIOS locked to them.Sep 17 01:18
yuhongAnd it still works.Sep 17 01:18
Diablo-D3broadcom is just shitSep 17 01:18
Diablo-D3you should avoid products with their stuff in itSep 17 01:18
yuhongMaybe, but that is another topic.Sep 17 01:19
Diablo-D3not because of drivers, but because the hardware just sucksSep 17 01:19
yuhongThe original article has a list of cards the drivers cover.Sep 17 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn So, sure looks like @joindiaspora is planning to go #Open_Core w/ #Diaspora. & people thought I was being alarmist. http://ur1 ...Sep 17 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @rahulsundaram #disapora demanding full copyright control and a broad patent grant http://ur1.ca/1nc78 #failSep 17 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn @webmink, we know @joindiaspora has been advised the entire summer by VCs, so it's no real surprise. VCs ♥ #Open_Core. #DiasporaSep 17 01:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @bkuhn @ianmcorvidae, well, it doesn't matter so much. #Diaspora is currently 6,500 lines of #Ruby. It's more or less not even wor ...Sep 17 01:22
cubevectorI've used ovislink stuff a fair bit, it works OKSep 17 01:22
yuhonghttp://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/55418Sep 17 01:23
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yuhongNotice the reply I posted.Sep 17 01:23
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cubevectordidn't Broadcom violate the GPL a while ago?Sep 17 01:25
cubevectorancient history now I supposeSep 17 01:26
yuhongAnd on Google and Consumer Watchdog, Oracle exposed the ACT a while ago.Sep 17 01:26
yuhongAnd on Google and Consumer Watchdog, Oracle exposed the ACT a long time ago.Sep 17 01:26
yuhongAnd on the recent Google/Oracle lawsuit, I think desktop Java is still safe.Sep 17 01:28
yuhongBut what is even more ridiclous is people presenting it as a reason to avoid things like OpenOffice.Sep 17 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Charlie (the unseen character in Erfworld) is going to be a unicorn. I just know it.Sep 17 01:29
yuhongNote that I mean *desktop* Java.Sep 17 01:29
yuhongSun was trying to make money of mobile Java.Sep 17 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wall Street Journal Confirms #VMware is Looking to Buy #SUSE http://ur1.ca/1nd6t #OpenSUSE should seriously start thinking about a forkSep 17 01:34
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cubevectoris there a formal definition for "CPU year"?Sep 17 01:41
cubevectorI see that term now and thenSep 17 01:41
yuhongBTW, on entryism, I'd take a "innocent until proven guilty" approach.Sep 17 01:41
yuhongBTW, on MS entryism, I'd take a "innocent until proven guilty" approach.Sep 17 01:42
yuhongNot to say it is impossible.Sep 17 01:43
yuhongI would not filter all MS employees out because of it.Sep 17 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] PCLINUXOS sendo atualizado: RT @iluvpclinuxos ibiblio has been synced so mirrors should be getting updated packages soon.Sep 17 01:45
yuhonghttp://news.slashdot.org/story/10/09/10/1353256/Nokia-Names-Microsofts-Elop-As-New-CEO#commentlistingSep 17 01:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Wall Street Journal Confirms #VMware is Looking to Buy #SUSE http://ur1.ca/1nd6t #OpenSUSE should seriously start thinki ...Sep 17 01:47
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yuhonghttp://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1783330&cid=33534190Sep 17 01:51
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yuhonghttp://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1783330&cid=33535930Sep 17 01:51
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yuhongEven if there is no true entryism, this doesn't mean that is no incompetence.Sep 17 01:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Software: a Darwin Test for Incompetence http://ur1.ca/1ndm0 Relying on Microsoft still a way to destroy one’s careerSep 17 02:10
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schestowitz[20:26] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Microsoft Metro mouse leaks out, promises BlueTrack for $20 -- Engadget .::. Size~: 64.98 KBSep 17 02:16
schestowitz[20:26] <Diablo-D3> holy fuck is that uglySep 17 02:16
schestowitzMy eyes!Sep 17 02:17
Diablo-D3heeeSep 17 02:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @bkuhn what VC? have they announced something somewhere?Sep 17 02:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @diablod3 i really don't know. i think they just don't understand free software or understand GNU social's relationship to statusnet.Sep 17 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hack Turns $170 Media Viewer Into Tablet http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/09/170-linux-tablet/ !Linux insideSep 17 02:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] @mattl I think the big misunderstanding is the exact text of the AGPL... nothing I've seen GNU do has violated this wrt statusnetSep 17 02:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] According to @karsten Dell only released source code and hyped that up _after pressure_ from gpl-violations.org. MSFT spins like this tooSep 17 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb re "what other govts have they also helped?" see http://ur1.ca/vukn http://ur1.ca/1m6z4Sep 17 02:37
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schestowitz[21:43] <MinceR> they're a marketing/legal companySep 17 02:41
schestowitzYes, that's precisely what I always saySep 17 02:41
schestowitzThey 'import' the actual productsSep 17 02:41
schestowitz[21:45] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [joabj/@joabj] Google: Chrome will be 60 times faster (InfoWorld)Sep 17 02:43
schestowitzIDGSep 17 02:43
schestowitzYou heard it there firstSep 17 02:43
schestowitzMy car too will drive 60 times faster.... than 2km/hourSep 17 02:43
Diablo-D3isnt it already 60 times faster than ie6?Sep 17 02:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz Hack Turns $170 Media Viewer Into Tablet http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/09/170-linux-tablet/ !Linux insideSep 17 02:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The "yuppie nuremberg" defense is when someone does something they know is wrong but tries justify it by simply.. doing it for the money."Sep 17 02:52
Diablo-D3soSep 17 02:52
Diablo-D3wouldnt the /b/tard nuremberg defense would be when someone does something wrong but tries to justify it by doing it for the lulz?Sep 17 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @teddks: ♺ @gazbook: WARNING! !diaspora demanding full copyright control and a broad patent grant http://ur1.ca/1nc78 #fail @joindiasporaSep 17 03:04
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schestowitz[22:13] <sebsebseb> in fact Shadowww|RDP might be the first troll since it changed to techrights officallySep 17 03:04
schestowitzYesSep 17 03:04
cubevectorgreatSep 17 03:04
cubevectorI wonder what RDP meantSep 17 03:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♻ @threethirty @teddks: ♺ @gazbook: WARNING! #diaspora demanding full ©control & broad patent grant http://ur1.ca/1nc78 #fail @joindiasporaSep 17 03:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn So, sure looks like @joindiaspora is planning to go #Open_Core w/ #Diaspora. & people thought I was being alarmist. http://ur1 ...Sep 17 03:19
schestowitzIs this for real? http://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/depct/and_now_for_a_word_from_our_sponsor_because_for/Sep 17 03:20
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cubevectorbahSep 17 03:22
cubevectorjust Microsoft's way of worming into people's minds againSep 17 03:22
cubevectorthey want 100% mindshare of everything including browserSep 17 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith no, not Red HatSep 17 03:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Pity with capital PSep 17 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bkuhn So, sure looks like @joindiaspora is planning to go #Open_Core w/ #Diaspora.... http://ur1.ca/1nc78Sep 17 03:29
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sebsebsebcubevector: Remote Desktop ProtocallSep 17 03:41
sebsebsebcubevector: the Microsoft thing instead of VNC?Sep 17 03:41
sebsebsebI guess thats what it meantSep 17 03:41
cubevectorvery possible sebsebsebSep 17 03:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @joindiaspora will you return the donations of those who did not expect you to go #Open_Core ? #DiasporaSep 17 03:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @fontana @joindiaspora will you return the donations of those who did not expect you to go #Open_Core ? #DiasporaSep 17 03:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Uploaded 4 new desktop screenshots from my !Debian Squeeze netbook http://bit.ly/bHMjFpSep 17 03:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why do I feel like Diaspora has been an epic failure? All this hype, and no product. And, seriously, Ruby? Why not !Java? #failSep 17 04:00
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sebsebsebcubevector: that person was on Windows when I did a whois,  and it seemed Windows 7 as wellSep 17 04:06
sebsebsebcubevector: so yeah that, unless they were faking the version thing.  well ok so version says that stuff, not whoisSep 17 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] John Doe Strikes Back: New Developments in the US Copyright Group ("Hurt Locker") Cases http://eff.org/r.1rnSep 17 04:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Sarah Palin Revisited: Why Terms of Use Shouldn't Be Enforced Through Computer Crime Law http://eff.org/r.1rpSep 17 04:09
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cubevectorI don't mind or even care if someone uses windows, but when they come in here just to make a pest of themselves...Sep 17 04:10
cubevectorjust someone looking for attention, even if it's negative attentionSep 17 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Lawsuit targets advertiser over sneaky HTML5 pseudo-cookies http://eff.org/r.r7qSep 17 04:12
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cubevectorin the old days we would have these silly flamewars over Amiga vs AtariSep 17 04:12
cubevectornowadays barely anyone even remembers either oneSep 17 04:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Lawsuit targets advertiser over sneaky HTML5 pseudo-cookies http://eff.org/r.r7qSep 17 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Sarah Palin Revisited: Why Terms of Use Shouldn't Be Enforced Through Computer Crime Law http://eff.org/r.1rpSep 17 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: John Doe Strikes Back: New Developments in the US Copyright Group ("Hurt Locker") Cases http://eff.org/r.1rnSep 17 04:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Smasung Galaxy Tab has me all giddy! :D Looks awesome!Sep 17 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @stav HDTV Code Crack Is Real, !Intel Confirms http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/16/intel-confirms-hdtv-code-cracked/Sep 17 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz #Microsoft Software: a Darwin Test for Incompetence http://ur1.ca/1ndm0 Relying on Microsoft still a way to destroy one’ ...Sep 17 04:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @gregkh Will code for hardware? Here's some nice devices for you: http://plugable.com/2010/09/16/plugable-open-source-hardware-sample ...Sep 17 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] !mutt search is just amazing. http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#patterns #stupidme, I just knew about it.Sep 17 04:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @harishpillay Nice hat! ;-)Sep 17 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @agentsmith thanks! :-)Sep 17 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nothing new, but worth a laugh again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYa6gQC14o #fbSep 17 05:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching Nikita E02!Sep 17 05:05
cubevectorthis is a bit old but interesting:Sep 17 05:09
cubevectorhttp://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/13/warner-bros-has-lost-krypton-will-lose-superman-in-2013/Sep 17 05:09
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cubevectornot sure if I agree that the family deserves the rightsSep 17 05:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @vvcrishna: http://bit.ly/aXcQfj India comes together against the surveillance society #privacy #uidSep 17 05:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: This oneside series is too damaging 4 the Hindu's fame acquired the intervention in enviromental causes @nramind @ganant http:...Sep 17 05:20
kickbackof course, you never hear about these protests against UID in the mainstream mediaSep 17 05:30
kickbacknews channels keep saying how this surveillance is the best thing to happen since the microprocessorSep 17 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] 8th inning, #Dodgers 2, Giants 8. It seems like the #LABaseball teams have given up for the year.Sep 17 05:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Chrome seems to be having a bad day today.Sep 17 05:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: #CIC may collaborate with #UIDAI. Move to discourage #anonymous #RTI applicants #uid http://bit.ly/cDk2CUSep 17 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @rtmohan: Privacy, profiling, doubtful of achieving delivery to poor...read http://bit.ly/ddr0ej RT @K2_181: what new conc...Sep 17 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @gkjohn: A couple of pieces on #UID and it's big brother-ness. New American: http://bit.ly/cJsUMG This by @/joverdorf http...Sep 17 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final score: Los Angeles #Dodgers 2, San Francisco Giants 10. #LABaseballSep 17 06:24
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/09/14/symantec-employee-caught-astroturfing-gas/Sep 17 06:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final score: Los Angeles #Angels of #Anaheim 2, Cleveland Indians 3. #LABaseballSep 17 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Back to the open ati driver and kernel 2.6.33 in Fedora 13 http://ht.ly/192F9jSep 17 06:27
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oiaohmhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Always-Innovating-Smart-Book/  Ok this is a little bit too much split personality in a deviceSep 17 07:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] ♺ @trk: RT @rysiek: "open" means "software written so well I'm not ashamed to show the code to the world." how's yours, !linux !fs !gnuSep 17 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Freaking *awesome* rehearsal tonight. Severed Fifth is raging!Sep 17 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Novell’s Patents Are Complicating Its Sale - http://bit.ly/aZoFD1 sounds plausible to me #novell #swpatsSep 17 07:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How US sanctions made Haystack - http://bit.ly/apTIkq interesting point about unintended consequences #haystack #sanctionsSep 17 07:35
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oiaohmReally Vmware grabing SUSE is interesting.Sep 17 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] "Firmele megașmenului Gabriel Sandu- #Microsoft : tranzacţii, acţionariat, conexiuni" http://tinyurl.com/35mssqe #romania #eromania #gnuSep 17 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #PD, #UDMR, #UNPR mai bat un cui în coșciugul românilor prin Legea unitară a pensiilor http://tinyurl.com/338u2c4 #romania #politicsSep 17 07:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] ATI R600 Gallium3D Driver Continues Advancing: While most of the open-source Linux graphics drivers are currently ... http://bit.ly/b2NUmWSep 17 07:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Microsoft Software: a Darwin Test for Incompetence http://ur1.ca/1ndm0 Relying on Microsoft still a way to destroy one’ ...Sep 17 07:50
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oiaohmhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369280,00.aspSep 17 07:56
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oiaohmOk what is going to be the next protected media.Sep 17 07:56
oiaohmhttp://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/09/debunking-the-1-myth.html  More arguing against the low Linux numberSep 17 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @stav HDTV Code Crack Is Real, !Intel Confirms http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/16/intel-confirms-hdtv-code-cracked/Sep 17 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz They "helped" Romania, too http://tinyurl.com/2prahv #romania #microsoftSep 17 08:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Nokia, Zeitgeist, MeeGo/Maemo, and Moonlight/Mono Threat http://ur1.ca/1nd0t #novell #nokia #microsoftSep 17 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @rysiek "open" means "software written so well I'm not ashamed to show the code to the world." how's *your* code, Microsoft?.. !linux ...Sep 17 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @webmink @lxoliva Not just a theoretical topic BTW: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20016756-245.htmlSep 17 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @candrews @thejackal Actually, the ability to rebrand is a key component of software freedom (aka "forking"). You're in the wrong here.Sep 17 08:15
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cubevectorwhat I don't understand is how can systems sold as dual boot still be considered windows systems?Sep 17 08:22
cubevectordual boot is dual bootSep 17 08:22
oiaohmThat is the problem with the numbersSep 17 08:23
oiaohmAlso items like splashtop don't get counted either cubevectorSep 17 08:23
frederichcan someone explain the diff between GitHub and Gitorious, which is better for open-source hostingSep 17 08:23
Diablo-D3frederich: preference.Sep 17 08:23
Diablo-D3frederich: btw, look at the wikipedia articles for both, and then the comparison page they link toSep 17 08:24
Diablo-D3it'll answer all your questions, and then ones you didnt ask yetSep 17 08:25
frederichkSep 17 08:25
Diablo-D3btw, bitbucket is the hg equiv of githubSep 17 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Megaşmen Gabriel Sandu II. “Internet în şcoala ta”, fără Daniel Funeriu http://tinyurl.com/33fhdya #romania #politicsSep 17 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn strictly speaking, having a CA doesn't mean ->#Open_core. Though it's suspicious and sec.4 is BAD omen. I'd not sign itSep 17 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] seems all the cool (and incompetent) kids are doing it these days. *sigh*Sep 17 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fontana in #Diaspora CA the patent covenant (not assignment) seems fair, but AGPLv.3 w'd be better suited to donation-started project #failSep 17 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] @bkuhn: this is where you get the source code, so it's not really clear… I agree with you, but it's not clear what's their choiceSep 17 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @hook: ♻ @gazbook: WARNING! #diaspora demanding full copyright control and a broad patent grant http://ur1.ca/1nc78 #fail → !fsfeSep 17 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Screenshot, Dropbox, Share: http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/automatically-take-a-screenshot-and-make-it-public-using-dropbox/Sep 17 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mesa 7.4 Through Mesa 7.9 Benchmarks: Over the next few weeks there are a number of new Phoronix benchmarks to be ... http://bit.ly/a9vdycSep 17 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The RadeonHD Driver Would Be Three Today: Three years ago from today marked the introduction of the RadeonHD drive... http://bit.ly/9XkBjaSep 17 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @carlopiana: @bkuhn strictly speaking, having a CA doesn't mean →#Open_core. Though it's suspicious and sec.4 is BAD omen. I'd not sign itSep 17 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #Diaspora CA w'd score rather good for an old-style corporate CA. For a new community-subsidized project it's rather #failSep 17 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] We have 15 *Superb* Miniconfs for !lca2011 and many have their CFP open. Check them out, and submit a proposal! http://cli.gs/A7NmdnSep 17 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] “People are willing to disproportionately spend for these devices because they are becoming so important to their lives” [1/2]Sep 17 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] [2/2] … so, the life of people is that *uninteresting*? http://is.gd/feCRu (very short article: iPad Is Cannibalizing Laptop Sales By 50%)Sep 17 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Perfection is coming... http://goo.gl/YPtB !Ubuntu 10.10 Teaser videoSep 17 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !WorksWithU: !UbuntuOne Evolves for #Maverick http://goo.gl/550eSep 17 09:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphael Pinson: Helping young children learn to read http://goo.gl/acccSep 17 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Megaşmen III: Sandu şi-a încălcat propriul regulament ca să atribuie bani europeni… propriului minister http://tinyurl.com/33d67m8 #romaniaSep 17 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Megaşmen III: Sandu şi-a încălcat propriul regulament ca să atribuie bani europeni… propriului minister http://tinyurl.com/33d67m8Sep 17 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @cdaffara What can be done with OSS: an incredible russian commercial video http://bit.ly/aPJymA >> #blender, of courseSep 17 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Megaşmen IV. Gabriel Sandu face conexiunea banilor europeni cu buzunarele PDL. Broadband http://tinyurl.com/2vnvfbd #romania #politicsSep 17 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What Parts Of X.Org Should Be Killed With Fire?: Originally at the X.Org Developers' Summit here in Toulouse this ... http://bit.ly/9yspycSep 17 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] scientists unravel the cocoa genome - http://bit.ly/dbybWb "Instead of patenting the genome, they have placed it online": kudos #dnaSep 17 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Looxcie Wearable Camera with Android Lets You Record Anywhere - http://bit.ly/9sqGLY looks useful for human rights work #androidSep 17 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Illustrating the Difference Between iPhone and Android - http://bit.ly/c8yw7U ha! nicely done #iphone #androidSep 17 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Debian dead slow. 10mins for a ps & counting. Swap uberfull. What can've happened?Sep 17 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] There will be heavy maintenance on the LO servers from today over the weekend. Please bear with us, necessary updates.Sep 17 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Neat stuff any Harry Potter fan should read :) http://markreadsharrypotter.buzznet.com/user/journal/7439161/mark-reads-harry-potter-archive/Sep 17 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Taking down the LO sites for some pre-upgrade tasks...Sep 17 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] LO sites are back up.Sep 17 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @glynmoody - how about this year? http://fosdem.org/2011/call_for_mainspeakers_devroomsSep 17 10:20
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schestowitz"Zuck has problem with his voice... " http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/09/copyright-assignments-gone-wild-or-why.htmlSep 17 10:21
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/24669862089 " and his 82 year old father... #lobby  "Sep 17 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] searching a train with delays for test purposes - #nmbs #iRail - Anyone?Sep 17 10:24
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/24689606683 http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/24689946357 http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/24689874443Sep 17 10:25
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schestowitzhttp://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FOREIGN_HOLDINGS?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULTSep 17 10:28
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freddyschestowitz: dude, do some fact checking and stop pulling things out of your assSep 17 10:31
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Guest66332schestowitz: how at all is he related to sparkleshare?Sep 17 10:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @carlopiana #Diaspora CA w'd score rather good for an old-style corporate CA. For a new community-subsidized project it's rather #failSep 17 10:32
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seifhey guysSep 17 10:33
seifJust read this http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/irc-log-techrights-16092010.html#tSep%2016%2017:33:35Sep 17 10:33
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seif-----------------------------Sep 17 10:33
seif1) Philip is not the creator of sparkle share (its Hylke Bons)Sep 17 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, there is absolutely no reason to have a copyright assignment of that nature w/ no promise back unless #Open_Corr is planned.Sep 17 10:34
freddy___seif: I just pointed out their blatant mistakesSep 17 10:34
seif2) Zeitgeist never moved to mono and wont, get your points rightSep 17 10:34
seifZeitgeist has mono bindingsSep 17 10:34
seifbut its still in python and will stay in pythonSep 17 10:34
freddy___seriously, what is up with the quality of journalism nowadays if there's not even basic fact checking doneSep 17 10:34
seiffreddy___, exactlySep 17 10:35
schestowitzHi, seifSep 17 10:36
seifdude get ur facts striaghtSep 17 10:36
seifits just sadSep 17 10:36
schestowitzYes, I pointed out already that Philip is not its creatorSep 17 10:36
schestowitzI did checkSep 17 10:36
schestowitzIt's someone else who claimed all that in IRCSep 17 10:37
schestowitzseif: I did get my facts straightSep 17 10:37
schestowitzYou're linking to IRC logsSep 17 10:37
schestowitzNot something _I_ said, eitherSep 17 10:38
freddy___schestowitz: your news post isn't much betterSep 17 10:38
schestowitzAnybody can say something in IRCSep 17 10:38
freddy___factually, you are rightSep 17 10:38
schestowitzfreddy___: be specificSep 17 10:38
seifhttp://techrights.org/2010/08/23/mono-dependency-indexer/Sep 17 10:38
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seifschestowitz, http://techrights.org/2010/08/23/mono-dependency-indexer/ is s owrongSep 17 10:38
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schestowitzsweeping statements=not good enoughSep 17 10:38
seifall i said we provie a wrapper librarSep 17 10:38
seifySep 17 10:38
seifand its not part of zeitgeistSep 17 10:38
schestowitzI knowSep 17 10:38
schestowitzI know it's just an engineSep 17 10:39
schestowitzThe things hooking onto it can be monoSep 17 10:39
schestowitzI never claimed otherwiseSep 17 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Internet must remain neutral, says Sir Tim Berners-Lee http://is.gd/feJZH #netneutralitySep 17 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Haosul din strategiile si sistemele de e-guvernare din Romania: Cum s-au pierdut 9 ani si miliarde de euro http://is.gd/feK34Sep 17 10:39
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freddy___I actually find it funny that you guys are still so scared shitless of MSSep 17 10:40
freddy___whereas the bigger problem nowadays is obviously AppleSep 17 10:40
schestowitzDependsSep 17 10:40
schestowitzApple is not a threat in most countriesSep 17 10:41
schestowitzApple can do OK in Japan, UK, Germany...Sep 17 10:41
schestowitzIt's a branded PCSep 17 10:41
schestowitzWith high priceSep 17 10:41
freddy___dudieSep 17 10:41
freddy___get a grip on realitySep 17 10:41
schestowitzApple hardly lobbies against software freedomSep 17 10:41
freddy___there's a huge brain drain away from f/oss towards appleSep 17 10:41
schestowitzfreddy___: be specificSep 17 10:41
schestowitzfreddy___: where?Sep 17 10:42
schestowitzIn the US?Sep 17 10:42
freddy___they don't need to lobby, they just need to pull the mindshare awaySep 17 10:42
schestowitzThat's a legitimate point, freddy___, but...Sep 17 10:42
schestowitzIn some places like Brazil Apple can be detestedSep 17 10:42
schestowitzI see it every day. To them, it's the peak of US arroganceSep 17 10:43
freddy___yes, cause you obviously live in BrazilSep 17 10:43
seifschestowitz, tbh i dont give a rats assSep 17 10:45
seifas long as i can hackSep 17 10:45
seifapple for me is a pain in the assSep 17 10:45
schestowitzOKSep 17 10:46
schestowitzI try to keep awareness of the threat of .NET tooSep 17 10:46
schestowitzMicrosoft Minshare for developersSep 17 10:46
freddy___schestowitz: the point here is that there's no credibility left if it's all twisted and distorted realitySep 17 10:47
schestowitzThe problem is that Microsoft tries to pull FOSS in its direction... http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Sep-16.htmlSep 17 10:47
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schestowitzPulling them to WIndows, VS, SIlver Lie...Sep 17 10:47
freddy___schestowitz: what's the problem with buritto's?Sep 17 10:47
schestowitzAnd some people help Microsoft achieve thisSep 17 10:48
schestowitzStrengthening their reignSep 17 10:48
schestowitzfreddy___: where is it distorted?Sep 17 10:48
schestowitzfreddy___: no problem with those foodsSep 17 10:48
schestowitzJust linked to the latest postSep 17 10:48
freddy___schestowitz: why on earth are you making a link between pvanhoof and sparkleshare?Sep 17 10:48
freddy___especially because there is no relevancy in that for the article, nor is it actually trueSep 17 10:49
freddy___which you supposedly checkedSep 17 10:49
schestowitzThe reality distortion is there too... Miguel's preaching about friendly Microsoft while Microsoft attacking FOSSSep 17 10:49
schestowitz<freddy___> schestowitz: why on earth are you making a link between pvanhoof and sparkleshare?Sep 17 10:49
schestowitz_I don't_Sep 17 10:49
schestowitzWe've been through thisSep 17 10:49
freddy___okSep 17 10:49
schestowitzI showed that someone else claimed this wronglySep 17 10:49
freddy___why is sparkleshare mentioned in that article?Sep 17 10:50
schestowitzAnd I stated this in my blogSep 17 10:50
freddy___it has no relevancy thereSep 17 10:50
schestowitzTo prevent confusionSep 17 10:50
freddy___hahahaSep 17 10:50
schestowitzSo I et the record straight... so that the person does not repeat the rumourSep 17 10:50
freddy___usually, you point that out in privateSep 17 10:50
schestowitzCause I cannot see any connection at all, that's whySep 17 10:51
schestowitzI could falsify to the extent that I could research itSep 17 10:51
schestowitz<freddy___> usually, you point that out in privateSep 17 10:51
schestowitzSee in the log the timesSep 17 10:51
schestowitzI wasn't around when the perso wrote thisSep 17 10:51
schestowitzI could not get in touchSep 17 10:52
schestowitzIIRCSep 17 10:52
freddy___dudeSep 17 10:52
schestowitzOr else I would check thisSep 17 10:52
freddy___you have to admit that that piece of article is horribly unclear and unless you read it carefully, it will lead people to believe there's some sort of connectionSep 17 10:52
oiaohmBig problem we have with mono is the mono lead developer will not talk truthfully about the problems.Sep 17 10:52
oiaohmLike the fact mono does not follow the .net specification perfectly because MS .net does not either.Sep 17 10:53
oiaohmSo rendering community promise on .net worthlessSep 17 10:53
freddy___good thing that the stuff that gets written here does not leave the echo chamber of nonsense anywaySep 17 10:53
schestowitzYour respect for us is commendable.../sarcasmSep 17 10:54
freddy___your respect for clear and factual journalism is commendable as wellSep 17 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @royhugo: ♺ @hook: ♻ @gazbook: WARNING! #diaspora demanding full copyright control and a broad patent grant http://ur1.ca/1nc78 #failSep 17 06:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] #NMBS - Indeed. Found out the train I have to catch now even has delays ;-) - Thanks @schwarzprod @bdesmet @tuinSlak @joristimmermanSep 17 06:36
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-socialSep 17 11:43
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:34 2010Sep 17 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Sintel (free short film by the Blender Foundation) is coming in 10 days, on 27th September. I can't wait to see it! http://goo.gl/vCdzSep 17 11:59
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schestowitzhttp://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Eaglewood-Rig-Mobilisation-Underway-TSX-VENTURE-EWD-1320608.htm "The Ubuntu-1 well is targeting natural gas and condensate in the Toro and Elevala formations with a total depth of 3,600 metres. The Ubuntu location is approximately 17 kilometres from each of the Ketu and Elevala discoveries in PRL 5. The prospect is defined by good seismic control."Sep 17 12:01
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schestowitzHehSep 17 12:01
schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/09/16/google-chrome-browser-vapour-ware/Sep 17 12:09
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kickback60 times faster? :/Sep 17 12:16
lightpriestthey're only talking about graphical renderingSep 17 12:17
schestowitzyeah!Sep 17 12:17
schestowitzAnd IDG printed itSep 17 12:17
schestowitzI wrote about it yesterdaySep 17 12:17
lightpriestit's a bit misleadingSep 17 12:18
lightpriestthoughSep 17 12:18
lightpriestit's not like pages will be fetched 60 times fasterSep 17 12:18
kickback"Google has claimed that its forthcoming Chrome 7 browser will be 60 times faster than the previous version of the software. """ is definitely misleading ;)Sep 17 12:18
schestowitzmaybe google has not said toSep 17 12:19
schestowitz*soSep 17 12:19
schestowitzMaybe that's a misinterpretation by the trade journal, like WIntel'sSep 17 12:19
schestowitzCatchy headliensSep 17 12:19
schestowitz60 times faster!"Sep 17 12:19
lightpriestheh :)Sep 17 12:20
lightpriestit's much better then IE9's headlines: "We're catching up, wait up!"Sep 17 12:21
kickbackyeah difinitelySep 17 12:22
kickbackdefinitely*Sep 17 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[peterb/@peterb] Great article by Adam Bolte, "The Threat to Software Freedom" http://blogs.sitepoint.com/2010/09/17/the-threat-to-software-freedom/Sep 17 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Odd, Gnomenu quit working on my Athlon XP machine, while it still works flawlessly on my other machines (same distro, same version) :-oSep 17 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Die, spammers, die!Sep 17 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] !Android: Opening A Pandora's Box of Licensing http://bit.ly/969q7uSep 17 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Facebook Competitor Diaspora Releases Source Code http://gawker.com/5640446/Sep 17 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @regsecurity: Code for open-source Facebook riddled with landmines http://bit.ly/cnVuXESep 17 12:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Doctors Will Use Dell Streak Tablets When Treating Patients http://ur1.ca/1nkb0 Linux-powered clinics!Sep 17 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Doctors Will Use Dell Streak Tablets When Treating Patients http://ur1.ca/1nkb0Sep 17 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @stav HDTV Code Crack Is Real, !Intel Confirms http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/16/intel-confirms-hdtv-code-cracked/Sep 17 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @harishpillay "Intel doesn't think piracy will suddenly increase" - granted (what's "piracy", BTW?)Sep 17 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: @BoingBoing Blu-Ray falls: HDCP key crack confirmed http://eff.org/r.3rrSep 17 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @appelond: ♺ @trk: RT @rysiek: "open" means "software written so well I'm not ashamed to show the code to the world." how's yours?Sep 17 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @harishpillay ♻ @stav HDTV Code Crack Is Real, !Intel Confirms http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/16/intel-confirms-hdtv-code-cra ...Sep 17 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Create and delete multiple files with touch and mkdir http://richs-lxh.com/quickly-create-and-delete-multiple-files-or-directories/ !linuxSep 17 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @harishpillay: ♻ @stav HDTV Code Crack Is Real, !Intel Confirms http://is.gd/feVjd | more precise: HDCP Master key leaked.Sep 17 12:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Quickly create and delete multiple files or directories | Father, Husband, Linux Geek& .::. Size~: 25.33 KBSep 17 12:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  FOXNews.com - HDTV Code Crack Is Real, Intel Confirms .::. Size~: 70.39 KBSep 17 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cenatic report: "Europe leading in development and use of open source" - http://bit.ly/d8rJyw UK "behind on the uptake": </sigh>Sep 17 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eclipse Summit Europe 2010 program published - http://bit.ly/9nQyTr "sponsors include Microsoft, Oracle, BMW Group, SAP and O'Reilly" #ossSep 17 13:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer was it leaked or was it cracked then leaked? I read it could have been guessed through RE w/ few resourcesSep 17 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA could override EU privacy law - http://bit.ly/dbXOsv more unlovely aspects #acta #privacySep 17 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] !statusnet @bruceryder is spamming lots of groups.Sep 17 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] My tests. Second one scored 97% http://ur1.ca/1nkrjSep 17 13:21
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frederichhttp://www.vedetta.com/a-few-notes-on-diaspora-the-diaspora-verdictSep 17 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[froscamp/@froscamp] RT @ungethym At FrOSCamp in Zurich at the !KDE booth with Myrian, Marc and Luca.Sep 17 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[froscamp/@froscamp] RT @freebeerch we are at #FrOSCamp! Come and meet us this afternoon at the bar. Tonite concert at StuZ and free FreeBeer (60l) awaiting ...Sep 17 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @rahsheen: HTC moves beyond the phone, marginalizes Google in the process http://ow.ly/2FJFASep 17 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @carlopiana seems unfair - contributors grant broader patent licenses to #Diaspora than users get from Diaspora via !AGPL cc: @joindiasporaSep 17 13:41
schestowitzhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703466704575489582364177978.html?mod=googlenews_wsjSep 17 13:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Google a Monopolist? A Debate - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 133.04 KBSep 17 13:43
schestowitz"Sponsored by Microsoft" http://www.informationweek.com/cloud-computing/blog/archives/2010/09/if_novell_is_fo.htmlSep 17 13:44
schestowitzHehSep 17 13:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If Novell Is For Sale, VMware May Buy Its Expertise - Plug Into The Cloud - InformationWeek .::. Size~: 45.63 KBSep 17 13:44
schestowitzNovell employees already provoke. http://twitter.com/dmacvicar/status/24746232207 "boycottvmware.com is available in case you are afraid of losing your silly hobby"Sep 17 13:50
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schestowitz"boycottoracle.com and boycottredhat.com are taken. But may be you are the owner!" http://twitter.com/dmacvicar/status/24746443827Sep 17 13:50
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schestowitzI'm not BTWSep 17 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA could override EU privacy law - http://bit.ly/dbXOsv more unlovely aspects #acta #privacySep 17 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BSA's Piracy Numbers: Less than They Seem - http://bit.ly/aRjRMh picking apart BSA's big claims on #software #piracy #economicsSep 17 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be useful for !Pino to include the user ID in the dialog, or even add a "report as spam" button, which adds the relevant templateSep 17 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink yeah, using proprietary software, even. but there's much more to hardware design and manufacturing than programming FPGAsSep 17 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink it is a shame indeed. or should a good thing silence our criticism to a bad thing?Sep 17 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canada "Fox News North" Campaign -- Attempted Sabotage, Avaaz Responds - http://bit.ly/9GGqJG worrying stuff #canadaSep 17 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink and that's assuming that the Free driver is a good thing. software that demands you to sacrifice your freedom isn'tSep 17 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Avaaz.org - The World in Action .::. Size~: 6.76 KBSep 17 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] What does "flagged" actually do? Is it the same as reporting as spam? Someone will have to manually review and say yes or no after allSep 17 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why is it that "blocked" users dents still show up as usual in !Pino?Sep 17 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Woohoo, the memory leak bug in !Unity has been solved: http://goo.gl/1ZkZSep 17 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink err... this link is about the leaked HDCP key. is that related with FPGAs, or was that not the link you wanted to post?Sep 17 14:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug #604777 in clutk (Ubuntu): “Unity causing massive memory leak when hovering over the quicklists” .::. Size~: 102.66 KBSep 17 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wish these brave women the best of luck in surviving to the election, if not killed, then banned http://bit.ly/ceCibTSep 17 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lies, damn lies and Chinese science - http://bit.ly/ahFMKT fascinating piece about some brave people #china #scienceSep 17 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 17/9/2010: Fedora Moves to Upstart, Hybrid Tablets Running Linux Introduced http://ur1.ca/1nl9k !techrightsSep 17 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith nice themeSep 17 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] How do we test a Web browser? (one year after) http://ow.ly/192YZMSep 17 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Ty ;-)Sep 17 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Few Notes From Day 2 Of XDS Toulouse: More details will come later along with the audio/video recordings that en... http://bit.ly/drInNeSep 17 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fontana I was suggesting all contributions be made via AGPL, not AGPL + CA. That would address also patents cc: @joindiasporaSep 17 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bad start for the day so far due to a software bug. Well, it's bound to happen every now and then...Sep 17 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Could Euro Carriers Be Planning Their Own Mobile OS? - http://bit.ly/drFqGj trainwreck if they do #mobile #euSep 17 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @OpenRightsGroup: ACTA negotiations in Tokyo from 23/9, sked until 1/10, but open ended. US wants deal before mid-terms.Sep 17 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] my #bostonreview response to critics (and friends): http://bit.ly/9pkUAXSep 17 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The ZFS Linux Module Goes Into Closed Beta: We reported last month that a native ZFS module was coming to Linux an... http://bit.ly/aqRkTZSep 17 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Morgen Tag der Freien Software !fs Was passiert in Deutschland? http://ur1.ca/1nlsn !fsfeSep 17 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Morgen: Tag der Software-Freiheit «  I love it here .::. Size~: 10.05 KBSep 17 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @carlopiana :-). Indeed, what's piracy?Sep 17 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @glynmoody: BSA's Piracy Numbers: Less than They Seem - http://bit.ly/aRjRMh picking apart BSA's big claims /RD great stuff!Sep 17 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google’s Chief on Social, Mobile and Conflict - http://nyti.ms/dbVt9M “If we were losing, we would not have these problems.” #googleSep 17 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Significance of the Huge European Warez Scene Raids - http://bit.ly/9mInbQ amazing ecosystem #warez #euSep 17 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] On train coding #iRail with #n900 tethering. #2010 = #awesomenessSep 17 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] "VMware Looks To Acquire Novell's SUSE Unit" - http://goo.gl/0yrI // This is pretty big..Sep 17 15:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    The Significance of the Huge European Warez Scene Raids | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 40.78 KBSep 17 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Someone from the identiverse coming to #iRail hackevent in Ghent today? http://project.irail.be/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi/wiki/Events/0x20Sep 17 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @rahulsundaram Bug 60936 - Too many people leaving http://ur1.ca/1k2qf #MandrivaSep 17 15:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug 60936 &ndash; Too many people leaving .::. Size~: 69.69 KBSep 17 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @peterb: Great article by Adam Bolte, "The Threat to Software Freedom" http://ur1.ca/1nm6cSep 17 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] today I heard the nickname they use for me: #Mandark from the #Dexter cartoon (#dexter was often used as my nickname in NL).Sep 17 15:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   The Threat to Software Freedom .::. Size~: 63.76 KBSep 17 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware considering Novell purchase, WSJ says - (Computerworld) http://bit.ly/b3utlySep 17 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I drink tea once in a blue moon, so it always catches me to taste tea when I take a sip, I'm so used to that taste being coffee lolSep 17 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Code for open-source Facebook littered with landmines • The Register http://bit.ly/9ZCdKVSep 17 15:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VMware considering Novell purchase, report says - Computerworld .::. Size~: 77.78 KBSep 17 15:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Code for open-source Facebook littered with landmines • The Register .::. Size~: 26.51 KBSep 17 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Luc Calls For A Dead Linux Desktop If Keith Gets His Way: While X Server 1.10 is not being discussed at length unt... http://bit.ly/bXmvTRSep 17 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @plhw3org: An other #HTML5 talk, this time in New York: http://ping.fm/qThHmSep 17 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Apparently a lot of people are tired on a Friday train to Ghent...Sep 17 15:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Luc Calls For A Dead Linux Desktop If Keith Gets His Way .::. Size~: 20.82 KBSep 17 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Samsung Galaxy Tab is Lighter Than iPad, Has Almost Twice The RAM, Even Has 2 Cameras http://goo.gl/mZRzSep 17 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung Galaxy Tab is Lighter Than iPad, Has Almost Twice The RAM, Even Has 2 Cameras | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 45.23 KBSep 17 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Influence Explorer - http://bit.ly/9dCXNO wow, this looks an amazingly useful tool #lobbying #usSep 17 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Amazon's new Linux distribution (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/csOU8pSep 17 15:34
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Red Hat should fear Amazon Linux | Open Source - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 93.05 KBSep 17 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goodbye, Novell http://ur1.ca/1nm93 Coverage of the developments which spell the end of #Novell and success of #boycottnovellSep 17 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe pdfreaders.org now available in Croatian : http://pdfreaders.org/index.hr.html. Thank you dear translators for your work on #pd ...Sep 17 15:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @dontcallmedom: Just published a minor upgrade to the Android version of the W3C cheatsheet http://ping.fm/3Ndr9Sep 17 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Good read !mufc !football http://therepublikofmancunia.com/waiting-for-eric-the-15th-anniversary-of-cantonas-return/Sep 17 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @carlopiana @fontana I was suggesting all contributions be made via AGPL, not AGPL + CA. That would address also patents cc: @joindia ...Sep 17 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @technollama Researchers who apply for more patents tend to collaborate less with others: http://bit.ly/cb6fFj >>makes sense #sharingSep 17 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Just woken up and stunned by all the incredibly kind birthday wishes. Thankyou everyone so much! :-)Sep 17 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] J. Stewart launches : http://www.rallytorestoresanity.comSep 17 15:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rally to Restore Sanity .::. Size~: 12.22 KBSep 17 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #oktoberfest is only a few hours away :-) @wiesngauditv will report for you!Sep 17 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody @technollama Researchers who apply for more patents tend to collaborate less with others: http://bit.ly/cb6fFj >>makes ++senseSep 17 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] are birthday greets up- or downstream?Sep 17 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Just caught up to this article -- appeal of #Red_Hat certifications are exploding: http://2tu.us/2nmrSep 17 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @paulv Sounds like, in addition to all the other problems, #diaspora is riddled with security holes. http://is.gd/fefVx.Sep 17 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @fontana @joindiaspora will you return the donations of those who did not expect you to go #Open_Core ? #DiasporaSep 17 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the ideal FOSS game? A Tekken style fighting game with FOSS / FSF chars, "RMS v's Torvalds..... Round 1, FIGHT!"Sep 17 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #God_bless #mutt.Sep 17 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] or a RTS game where you try to defend patent attacks, build a following, arrange campaigns, send crowds of followers to picket companies etcSep 17 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] The #Diaspora irony is: @joindiaspora 's © assignment regime treats developers in a similarly deplorable way as #Facebook treats its users.Sep 17 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @raphaelhertzog How to create !Debian packages with alternative compression methods http://bit.ly/9KkbFT !ubuntu #packagingSep 17 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] you'd need t manage your resources, keep an eye on new players who enter your projects to embrace it, make alliances with other projects etcSep 17 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @pietercolpaert you're already in 2011? see? I'm so far behind...Sep 17 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @glynmoody last time I asked I was too late... Now I'm too early? ;-)Sep 17 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IE9 Release Will Harm Web Standards (CSS3), Reddit Helps It http://ur1.ca/1nmn4 #microsoft #css #wwwSep 17 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @pietercolpaert yeah, life's so unfair, isn't it...?Sep 17 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Confirms That It Hates Open Source http://ur1.ca/1nmuk Microsoft’s exclusion of “Open Source” is showingSep 17 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] !Firefox 4.0b7pre is great and looks sweet, but no add-ons work yet :|Sep 17 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Ideal FOSS RTS Game? http://bit.ly/b87KwRSep 17 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] In hackspace Ghent (#0x20) for #iRail evening - #checkinginSep 17 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @glynmoody come on... Just put it in your agenda. I want to bother you about #rebelcode2 in real time (&real life) #somethingToLookFwdToSep 17 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Symantec, #Warner and #Sony Music Are #AstroTurfing in Blogs, Just Like #Novell and #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/1nn0lSep 17 16:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @quaid @robmyers @reality Yeah, it's a warning sign when devels say, "Give us money, then we'll code FOSS, and show you the code when ...Sep 17 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] No matter who owns a trademark, usage can be a thorny issue. Much easier when the community pulls together: http://2tu.us/2nmvSep 17 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I don't get the hate against !diaspora after all they DID release the code, and this is only the start of the story, sounds like jealousySep 17 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Two Percent Market Share for #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/1nn82 #zune #windowsmobile #marketing #pr #slog #windowsSep 17 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] 300Sep 17 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Arcade Fire + Google + !HTML5 + your childhood home = very cool way to burn some time: http://bit.ly/cGhdr7Sep 17 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Goodbye, Novell http://ur1.ca/1nm93 Coverage of the developments which spell the end of #Novell and success of #boycot ...Sep 17 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] gah, alarm went off at the wrong time this morning and now i'm late ... but i'm there now in #kde-docs, better late than neverSep 17 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz funny how that happens, eh?Sep 17 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] alarm went off at the wrong time, so now i'm late :/ better late than never, i suppose.Sep 17 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i'm in #kde-docs on irc now, getting the docu writing ball movingSep 17 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @schestowitz Symantec, Warner and Sony Music AstroTurfing in Blogs, Just Like Novell & Microsoft http://ur1.ca/1nn0l !billc32 !canadaSep 17 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] #Diaspora developer responded to me. Claims main reason for © assignment is they are considering abandoning !AGPL. Trying to change his mindSep 17 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @mgeist Warm welcome 2 all Warner & Sony Music employees anonymously commenting on my blog 2 support CRIA from work IP address #billc32Sep 17 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn Abandoning !AGPL in favor of what? Already been assuming #Diaspora "consumer alpha" will be under proprietary EULA cc: @joindiasporaSep 17 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Zaphod 1.0 Released http://mzl.la/amRCtjSep 17 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,#Diaspora may switch to !GPL to "help w/ contributions";assignment allows exclusive relicensing control to any FSF-approved licenseSep 17 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, he said nothing about the license of the alpha. Since they aren't bound by !AGPL themselves, they can license it any way they likeSep 17 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn #Diaspora assignment allows relicensing to any proprietary license w/ token commitment to also put under free lic. cc: @joindiasporaSep 17 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn #Diaspora could ask for contributions to be licensed under GPLv3+ and AGPLv3+ instead of copyright assignmentSep 17 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Abolishing Software Patents a Top Priority This Software Freedom Day http://ur1.ca/1nnoz #swpats #sfd !fsfSep 17 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @pietercolpaert "The proposed lecture should be technical" - the last time I programmed, it was in Fortran...Sep 17 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] What would VMware's purchase of Novell SUSE mean for OpenSUSE? http://bit.ly/90Th6xSep 17 17:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British Library plans for a digital future - http://bit.ly/bNvsXZ a locked-down one, judging by their past: http://bit.ly/x9nmy #blSep 17 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] the dreaded https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196681 is dead! :) props to Penz and Sauer for getting to the bottom of that one!Sep 17 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Looks like #MODx revolution 2.02 is released! What is MODx? A PHP web CMS like #Drupal or #Joomla, but simpler.Sep 17 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] The URL for #MODx is http://modxcms.com/Sep 17 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IDG’s (IDC) Research So Bad Even Its Own People Complain About Its Output http://ur1.ca/1nnya #bsa #propagandaSep 17 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] wow ... koffice has really, really grown in recent times. hadn't svn up'd in a long while and it's taking forever: HUGE amount of changes.Sep 17 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Die-hard bug bytes Linux kernel for second time (Register) http://lwn.net/Articles/405927/rssSep 17 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Lesson of the day. If you don't have to plug it into Windows, don't use NTFS. Ever.Sep 17 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] 28 updates to Sabayon/apps for me today! Good work dev teams! Your efforts are appreciated! !sabayon !linux !fossSep 17 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] I would like someone to produce an Android tablet and call it The Tabloid.Sep 17 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @ksaver How F*cked is my Distro http://howfuckedismydistro.com/ !Linux #Fun #LinuxSep 17 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Strengthening Windows by Marginalising the Freedom Component http://ur1.ca/1nohj Likewise, OpenLogic, IDG, and Daydream cause problemsSep 17 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Design Team: This week in design – 17 September 2010 http://goo.gl/0ahRSep 17 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Conky + Compiz; does Conky disappear when you right click the desktop? Change own_window to no and it should fix it !ConkySep 17 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] OMG! VMware is buying Novell! http://blogs.computerworld.com/16978/vmware_is_buying_novell (via @computerworld)Sep 17 19:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Wow, there's a !Fedora Activity Day at Olin College Oct. 8 to work on #Etherpad -- details here: http://2tu.us/2nn1Sep 17 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Friday http://lwn.net/Articles/405929/rssSep 17 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Security a Concern as HTML5 Gains Traction (Threatpost) http://bit.ly/bgJk9KSep 17 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Can you spot the IT guy? (Fark): http://www.fark.com/cgi/go.pl?i=5628357&s=1 (RT @shaneschick)Sep 17 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open source #chocolate: Cacao genome sequenced & released to public domain, saving poor farmers $7-800 million/year. http://bit.ly/ba72CiSep 17 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I went to try Gnewsense but no 64 bit, somehow ended up with aptosid. I know it is only the unfamiliar but I found KDE offputtingSep 17 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell’s Transition Into a #FogComputing (Proprietary) Asset and Its Legacy Remembered http://ur1.ca/1noy7 #novell #nostalgiaSep 17 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] new Thread(new Runnable() { public void run() { /* do something. */ } }).start();Sep 17 19:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] “Hole in Linux kernel provides root rights”: http://bit.ly/adIp6tSep 17 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @bkuhn #Diaspora developer responded to me. Claims main reason for © assignment is they are considering abandoning !AGPL. Trying to c ...Sep 17 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gotunandan RT @rahulsundaram Bug 60936 - Too many people leaving http://ur1.ca/1k2qf #Mandriva > I am saddnedSep 17 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody I'll add a clarificationSep 17 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware interested in Novell SUSE? Wouldn't Canonical Ubuntu be a better bet? Also, why not pull a Oracle and just rebrand RHEL gratis?Sep 17 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Wall Street firm: Netflix, Google to pressure cable | Media Maverick (CNET) http://bit.ly/coZIjOSep 17 19:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Diaspora: A first peek at Facebook's challenger - Computerworld http://bit.ly/cWttVDSep 17 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Influence Explorer - http://bit.ly/9dCXNO wow, this looks an amazingly useful tool #lobbying #usSep 17 19:54
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sebsebsebHiSep 17 20:05
sebsebsebHappy Birthday jonoSep 17 20:06
sebsebsebOh we got  Seif Lotfy in here nowSep 17 20:07
sebsebsebAnyone about?Sep 17 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @quaid @robmyers @reality Yeah, it's a warning sign when devels say, "Give us money, then we'll code FOSS, and show you the code when ...Sep 17 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb I don't get the hate against !diaspora after all they DID release the code [..] sounds like jealousy > agreed!Sep 17 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Adobe Flash Player Square adds native 64-bit support (NetworkWorld) http://lwn.net/Articles/405950/rssSep 17 20:19
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schestowitzcubevector / cubezzz: are you there?Sep 17 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @shiny Apple versus !Android. (Comic) ur1.ca/1npjfSep 17 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Unified Services Description Language Incubator Group http://ow.ly/193gV6Sep 17 20:24
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MinceRthis is the way m$ "likes" "open source" >> http://www.techeye.net/software/microsoft-slags-off-open-sauceSep 17 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Joe Torre out next season. http://bit.ly/bxqYYk via @dodgertownusa@twitter.comSep 17 20:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] GUADEC video interview with Michael Meeks: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/09/interviews-from-guadec-part-5.htmlSep 17 20:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Still using passwords for multiple sites? http://xkcd.com/792/Sep 17 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right, an unexpected and pleasant surprise reappeared after a year...distracted me from what I was doing...where was I.....?Sep 17 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] The White House gives Mozilla as an example http://ur1.ca/1npfa “makers and creators of things, rather than consumers.” (via @nitot)Sep 17 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] new !StopUBB "Celebrate Software Freedom Day" http://ur1.ca/1npyn !lp !identica !linux !sflc !ubuntuca !u !fc !fsf !eff !techr !cc !fs !c32Sep 17 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] FLOSS Manuals Continues to Deliver Great Documentation http://is.gd/ffx0v #gnu #linux #freesoftwareSep 17 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: RT @pincette_biz: ODFToEPub can now embed fonts. http://www.pincette.biz/pincette/news.xhtml#news3Sep 17 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Remi Collet: thunderbird-3.1.4: RPM of the new version.... http://bit.ly/aQjOFqSep 17 21:19
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schestowitzsebsebseb: hiSep 17 21:20
schestowitzjust got back...Sep 17 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: RT @FFII: Open standards discussions center around open source http://bit.ly/dvQ0zP #igf10Sep 17 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: Nokia silent on MeeGo http://bit.ly/d1VOr6Sep 17 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @cbeust Just received my "The Web is Dead" Wired issue. The problem is that I already read the article... on the webSep 17 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @stav: Get ready. Motorola Planning an !Android Tablet Device for Early 2011 http://ur1.ca/1nqcrSep 17 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @bkuhn The #Diaspora irony is: @joindiaspora 's © assignment regime treats developers in a similarly deplorable way as #Facebook trea ...Sep 17 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @fontana @joindiaspora will you return the donations of those who did not expect you to go #Open_Core ? #DiasporaSep 17 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Unwelcome Return of “Best Viewed With Internet Explorer” (Technogizer) http://bit.ly/9cChaSSep 17 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @nitot: La Maison Blanche cite Mozilla en exemple ! http://ur1.ca/1npfa "créateurs plutôt que consommateurs".Sep 17 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] "Harry Potter empowers me to talk about bigotry, racism, transphobia, political fuckery, ... " http://ur1.ca/1nqhgSep 17 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Unified Service Description Language Incubator Group http://ow.ly/193joFSep 17 21:26
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Back from where?Sep 17 21:31
schestowitzphoneSep 17 21:31
sebsebseboh okSep 17 21:31
sebsebsebschestowitz: This link was given out a little while ago in the OMG Ubuntu IRCSep 17 21:33
sebsebsebhttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/09/microsoft-patent-infringing-android-isnt-really-free.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssSep 17 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft says patent-infringing Android isn't really free  .::. Size~: 28.36 KBSep 17 21:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah patent this that and the other, since Microsoft can't compete properlySep 17 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @evanpro “StatusNet for Android Available in the App Market” — http://ur1.ca/1nobv #statusnet #androidSep 17 21:34
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Also what do you think about how VMware are probably buying Novell?Sep 17 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz they want (c) on all contribs, which is #epicfailSep 17 21:36
gnufreexDana is spreading anti-Red Hat FUDSep 17 21:36
gnufreexI tried to refute it but he is just too delusionalSep 17 21:37
gnufreexHe said ti me:Sep 17 21:37
gnufreex@gnufreex Unfortunately, to Wall Street, Red Hat's growth is slow. Thus the rush to make them go away.Sep 17 21:37
cubevectorI'm here nowSep 17 21:37
gnufreexhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-novell-news-is-not-news/7367Sep 17 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Novell news is not news | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 110.85 KBSep 17 21:37
gnufreexTo make Red Hat go away?Sep 17 21:38
cubevectorRed Hat is doing fineSep 17 21:39
cubevectorit's not going awaySep 17 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola Planning a Tablet Device for Early 2011, Jha Says http://ur1.ca/1nqcr almost !Linux desktop from MotoSep 17 21:39
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gnufreexcubevector: Say that to Dana. He drinks Microsoft Florian's Kool Aid.Sep 17 21:40
cubevectorwell wow, I Microsoft guy doesn't like Red Hat :)Sep 17 21:40
cubevectoraSep 17 21:41
gnufreexI don't think Dana is Microsoft guy.Sep 17 21:41
gnufreexHe is just cueless.Sep 17 21:41
cubevectorwell who is Dana?Sep 17 21:41
gnufreexFrom ZDnetSep 17 21:41
cubevectornever heard of him :)Sep 17 21:41
gnufreexRead article I linkedSep 17 21:41
schestowitzsebsebseb: about vmware, see my postsSep 17 21:41
gnufreexHe writes for ZDnetSep 17 21:41
schestowitzcubevector: hiSep 17 21:41
cubevectorok, why notSep 17 21:42
cubevectorhi schestowitzSep 17 21:42
schestowitzgnufreex: yes, Dana replied to meSep 17 21:42
gnufreexschestowitz: What he says..?Sep 17 21:43
cubevectorgnufreex, you realize RHT is going quite well?Sep 17 21:43
cubevectormeanwhile MST is flat as a pancakeSep 17 21:43
gnufreexcubevector: I know that. Read what I said in comments in ZDnet article.Sep 17 21:43
schestowitzcubevector: did you get my pings?Sep 17 21:43
cubevectorschestowitz, yesSep 17 21:43
schestowitzI need today's logs for this channel onlySep 17 21:44
gnufreexcubevector: But problems is that Floyd is making FUD, lying people.Sep 17 21:44
schestowitzI was away for a little while, so have gapsSep 17 21:44
cubevectorokay, give me a minute or soSep 17 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @tr0n: trisquel 4.0 está listo / is ready / está pronto http://trisquel.info/downloadSep 17 21:44
schestowitzgnufreex: he found someone new to harrassSep 17 21:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Download | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free! .::. Size~: 13.77 KBSep 17 21:44
schestowitzUsed to be GroklawSep 17 21:44
schestowitzThen meSep 17 21:44
schestowitzNow FFIISep 17 21:44
schestowitzAs sourcesSep 17 21:45
schestowitznot companiesSep 17 21:45
schestowitzIBM, Red Hat, et...Sep 17 21:45
schestowitzcubevector: thanks so much !!!Sep 17 21:45
gnufreexschestowitz: Floyd is very anoying troll . I think we should dig more dirt about him to discredit him.Sep 17 21:46
gnufreexschestowitz: But he did that by himselft. He is now actively advocating Open Core on Twiter.Sep 17 21:47
gnufreexI found some mesages yesterdaySep 17 21:47
schestowitzNot dig dirtSep 17 21:48
schestowitzI don't do thatSep 17 21:48
schestowitzBut if you come across misbehaviour, then it can be pointed outSep 17 21:48
schestowitzLike is he attacks Moglen, comparing him to CastoSep 17 21:48
schestowitzOr spamming former FFII members trying to ruin the groupSep 17 21:48
gnufreexgnufreex: I meant that. Not private stuff, just his twiter posts and what he is advocating.Sep 17 21:49
schestowitz"dirt" sometimes refer to something in one's personal lifeSep 17 21:49
cubevectorthis goes back to sept 17, 2010 0:00 ESTSep 17 21:49
schestowitzThis is defensive cause he's attacking many people and groups that promote freedom while obviously loving and using Microsoft wares, exclusively, pretending to be the oppositeSep 17 21:49
gnufreexCopyied wrong nickSep 17 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @nlpretto ueba!... http://www.eticahacker.faced.ufba.br /RD o título da minha palestra é Demonizando Monopólios Intelectuais...Sep 17 21:49
schestowitzLike ACTSep 17 21:49
cubevectorhttp://maxhost.org/Sep 17 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ética Hacker  eventos «   .::. Size~: 44.49 KBSep 17 21:49
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schestowitzHehe. Representing 3,000 SMBs :-)Sep 17 21:50
schestowitzFunded by.... MicrosoftSep 17 21:50
schestowitzcubevector: thanks!Sep 17 21:50
cubevectorI see Freddy was unhappy about something :)Sep 17 21:50
cubevectornpSep 17 21:50
schestowitzbrbSep 17 21:50
cubevectorwell I kind of except people to attack stuffSep 17 21:51
cubevectorughSep 17 21:51
cubevectornot awake todaySep 17 21:51
cubevectorexpectSep 17 21:51
cubevectord1G ftw thoughSep 17 21:51
cubevectorI can never remember that, always have to look it upSep 17 21:52
cubevectorok, well RHT makes it's money from _services_Sep 17 21:52
gnufreexschestowitz: When I meant "dirt": Gather his most strange (contoversal) posts and sentences and point on what side he is. But in a way that makes completley obvious that he is microsoft advocate and is not to be trusted.Sep 17 21:53
cubevectorwhat is so hard to understand about that?Sep 17 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Red Hat and the cloud - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/17/redhat_vidblog/ nice! #fbSep 17 21:53
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cubevectoryeah gnufreex, I completely agree with your comments on zdnet or whatever it's calledSep 17 21:54
cubevectorzdnet isn't too Linux friendlySep 17 21:55
gnufreexcubevector: Thanks. I noticed, it isn't friendly to anything that isn't Microsoft.Sep 17 21:55
cubevectorI'm a stock holder :)Sep 17 21:56
cubevectorI bought in at $10.83Sep 17 21:56
cubevectorseems most of the bigwigs are selling their MSFT stocksSep 17 21:57
gnufreexYou are really lucky then, allmost 4x ROISep 17 21:57
gnufreexnowSep 17 21:57
cubevectorit was a calculated riskSep 17 21:58
gnufreexI wanted to buy RHT but it is to messy bureocracy to get US company stock from Serbia.Sep 17 21:58
schestowitzit only paid bankersSep 17 21:59
schestowitzCommission (on average you'd lose)Sep 17 21:59
cubevectorI actually thought about buying NOVL tooSep 17 21:59
seifsebsebseb, heySep 17 21:59
cubevectorbut I decided just to stick with Red HatSep 17 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @aurium: A carta http://ur1.ca/1nqrc funcionou! o Concurso da Marca dos 60 anos do CNPq agora aceita SVG! :-DSep 17 21:59
schestowitzKeep your money not in casinosSep 17 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gavin_clarke: Msft sides with Oracle on Android patents to boost Windows Phone 7 http://bit.ly/ckbf8M #microsoft #android #googleSep 17 21:59
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cubevectorstocks are good, if you can pick the right oneSep 17 22:00
cubevectorbetter than what the banks will give youSep 17 22:00
cubevectorSasketchawan potash company did very well tooSep 17 22:01
gnufreexFrench company Bull is doing well now, and they are pretty focused on FOSS.Sep 17 22:02
gnufreexThey do midleware and consulting.Sep 17 22:02
cubevectorit's the old story, money makes moneySep 17 22:02
schestowitzgnufreex: yeah, OOoSep 17 22:02
cubevectorall the richest people on Forbes made tons of money last yearSep 17 22:02
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/03/03/bull-openoffice-org-and-munich/Sep 17 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fabricainternet: RT @compassdesign: Is #Apple more Proprietary than #Microsoft? http://tinyurl.com/29kfvc5Sep 17 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] #iRail hacking event is coming to its end. It was awesome. Thanks!Sep 17 22:03
schestowitzcubevector: after they had lost itSep 17 22:03
schestowitzOn paperSep 17 22:03
cubevectorwell stocks were deflated for a while thereSep 17 22:03
cubevectorgood time to buy in againSep 17 22:03
gnufreexschestowitz: They support OW2 consotrium, all kinds of midleware. JonAS, SpagoBI, eXoPlatform...Sep 17 22:04
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jamesa_http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/open_source/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=227500127Sep 17 22:05
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gnufreexMono is trying to capitalize on Java FUD. To make people jump from pan to fire.Sep 17 22:06
schestowitzhi, jamesa_Sep 17 22:07
schestowitzthanksSep 17 22:07
jamesa_npSep 17 22:07
schestowitz"In May, Mono Tools for Visual Studio 2.0 Beta 1 (MonoTools) was released. The tool is a commercial add-in for Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 and Visual Studio 2010 that lets developers build, debug, and deploy .NET applications targeting Mono without leaving Visual Studio, said Jorgensen. The professional version of the tool is available for $99 from Novell's Mono store. The enterprise edition costs $249.'Sep 17 22:08
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schestowitzMisfiled under "software"Sep 17 22:08
schestowitzand "/open_source", not "/malware" or "/threatsSep 17 22:09
gnufreexI think Red Hat should buy Mono, so they could make some kind of translator from C# to Java.Sep 17 22:09
gnufreexRed Hat done work from some company(forgot name) on C# to java cross compiler.Sep 17 22:10
schestowitzyeahSep 17 22:10
gnufreexThey needed it to convert RHEV-M to JavaSep 17 22:10
gnufreexIt was in C#Sep 17 22:10
schestowitzbrbSep 17 22:10
gnufreexAnd still is in C@Sep 17 22:10
gnufreex#Sep 17 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] If you helped out on #iRail in one or other way, feel free to add yourself to the contributor list: http://ur1.ca/1nqxgSep 17 22:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @christophegger unknown !horizons release 2010.1 done, packages for !debian and !ubuntu on the website http://u.q0a.de/udumySep 17 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] configuring conkySep 17 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Canonical partners with AMI, Dell & Intel http://ur1.ca/1nr5hSep 17 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Marcy: "Did you know that they portrayed an average of 84 killings per one hour show??" Al Bundy: "Well, the man's gotta reload..." !qSep 17 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Al Bundy: "This is a cork filled heel, and you are a pork filled seal." !qSep 17 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Watching old episodes of Married with Children. Al Bundy rocks!Sep 17 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] http://twitter.com/windley/status/24789715727 Communities do not form around the idea of being monetized.Sep 17 22:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Intel confirms HDCP key is real, can now be broken at will http://bit.ly/b2NWQZSep 17 22:39
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cubevectorin these internet surveys about instant messaging they never talk about IRCSep 17 22:46
cubevectorinstead they always mention MSN Instant MessengerSep 17 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #God_bless Trisquel.Sep 17 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More Research http://ur1.ca/1nrcv on a more personal note (I usually separate my work from my hobby)Sep 17 22:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Midnight! Must turn off computer before I lose my glass mouse and my USB keyboard turns into a pumpkin.Sep 17 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Alan Pope: Ubuntu Software Center on Cranky Geeks http://goo.gl/YiwtSep 17 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] California Ban on Violent Videogames Violates First Amendment http://eff.org/r.3rsSep 17 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] interesting! http://nodaddy.com/ #fbSep 17 22:58
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-novell-news-is-not-news/7367Sep 17 22:59
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schestowitz"...slow growth for vendors who are selling Linux support contracts, like Novell and Red Hat."Sep 17 22:59
schestowitzUmm... no. Red Hat grows fine. They grow double digits every quarter, if fact, last quarter was 20% growth off revenue and 30% growth of profits.Sep 17 22:59
schestowitzHehSep 17 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] On Writing, Funding, and Distributing Software to Activists Against Authoritarian Regimes http://eff.org/r.r7tSep 17 22:59
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schestowitzgnufreex: what's Dana on?Sep 17 22:59
cubevectordrugsSep 17 22:59
gnufreexWorse. Floyd's, Kool AIDSep 17 23:00
cubevectorj/kSep 17 23:00
schestowitzFloyd hates RHTSep 17 23:00
schestowitzHe wants it sold, it seems...Sep 17 23:00
schestowitzThat's like saying Microsoft hates RHT, though..Sep 17 23:00
cubevectorwhat doesn't Microsoft hate?Sep 17 23:01
gnufreexHe hates Free Software. Red Hatt guys are proud Free Software zealots.Sep 17 23:01
cubevectorexcept money of course :)Sep 17 23:01
schestowitzDanaBlankenhorn: "@gnufreex Unfortunately, to Wall Street, Red Hat's growth is slow. Thus the rush to make them go away. "Sep 17 23:01
schestowitzROTFLMAOSep 17 23:01
schestowitzYeahSep 17 23:01
schestowitzSo slow that it quadrupled in Wall StreetSep 17 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ars Technica: #Microsoft says patent-infringing #Android isn't really free http://goo.gl/i19wSep 17 23:01
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schestowitzAnd shot up to $7bn market capSep 17 23:01
schestowitzFor a free productSep 17 23:01
gnufreexThey call it open source for marketing purposes, but they are doing bussines by GNU manifesto.Sep 17 23:02
cubevectorI always liked Red HatSep 17 23:02
schestowitz"I think you are wrong. Show me another company that had double digit growth all the way through recession?"Sep 17 23:02
schestowitzNo responseSep 17 23:03
schestowitzDana bit his tongueSep 17 23:03
schestowitzHis response to me also was tongue i cheekSep 17 23:03
schestowitzAnd Microsoft FLorian once mailed me to report on what he and Dana said about me via E-mailSep 17 23:03
gnufreexThat is why I pointed it here. I posted that two days ago, no response.Sep 17 23:03
schestowitzMaybe ZD will give Microsoft FLorian  a blogSep 17 23:03
schestowitzSame low standardSep 17 23:03
schestowitzAND... anti-FOSSSep 17 23:04
schestowitzTHat suits themSep 17 23:04
schestowitzSomeone should ask Dana againSep 17 23:04
schestowitzUntil he answers or admits he goofedSep 17 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Jon Stewart is organizing the 'Rally To Restore Sanity' - http://is.gd/ffDzq - absolutely awesome! #rallytorestoresanitySep 17 23:04
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gnufreexIf I ask him again, it will look like trolling.Sep 17 23:05
schestowitzIf corrections are not made, the lies spreadSep 17 23:05
cubevectorthey know what's coming, that's why there's all this FUDSep 17 23:05
cubevectorTHE END is coming :)Sep 17 23:05
schestowitzAndroud FUD tooSep 17 23:05
schestowitz"it's not free"Sep 17 23:05
schestowitz"Cause we profit from it" :-)Sep 17 23:05
gnufreexWhen I read ZDnet articles and comments, it is like some paralel universe.Sep 17 23:06
cubevectoryeah except that's all patent mumbo jumboSep 17 23:06
cubevectoror rather software patent mumbo jumboSep 17 23:06
gnufreexLike all on ZDnet are on drugs.Sep 17 23:06
gnufreexSadly, site is popular and general public picks that as truthSep 17 23:06
cubevectorevery business person knows the main rules of business is Faster, Better, CheaperSep 17 23:07
cubevectorso Microsoft is DOOMED :)Sep 17 23:07
cubevectorthey're not faster that's for sureSep 17 23:07
gnufreexThey claim they are cheaper than Red HatSep 17 23:08
schestowitzYou haven't seen their CEO run, have you?Sep 17 23:08
schestowitzHe's like a big fat bulletSep 17 23:08
cubevectorwhat Ballmer? :)Sep 17 23:08
gnufreexhahahaSep 17 23:08
cubevectorrun to McDonalds?Sep 17 23:08
gnufreexROFLFLFLSep 17 23:08
schestowitzHe runs like a roosterSep 17 23:08
cubevectorBallmer is a walking metaphor for MicrosoftSep 17 23:12
cubevectorbig, fat and abusiveSep 17 23:12
cubevectorand greedySep 17 23:12
gnufreexHe looks like a mob boss.Sep 17 23:12
gnufreexEspecialy when he opens his mouthSep 17 23:13
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gnufreexThe reason why MS trolls hate Red Hat is because Red Hat is example that Free Software is not communism.Sep 17 23:15
gnufreexIt can make money.Sep 17 23:16
cubevectoryupSep 17 23:16
gnufreexYou don't need to put propriatary crap.Sep 17 23:16
gnufreexAnd that's why I am pissed when Mark Shuttleworth says that Red Hat is closed source company.Sep 17 23:16
gnufreexCanonical is closer to propriatary company.Sep 17 23:17
gnufreexThey sell LandscapeSep 17 23:17
gnufreexRed Hat is all openSep 17 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] I hear weather will be gorgeous for #SoftwareFreedomDay tomorrow in Fredericksburg!Sep 17 23:18
cubevectoractually the fact that Novell is selling stuff could be driving up the stock price of RHTSep 17 23:21
Diablo-D3the fact that novell fucktards are jumping ship and need a place to put their money is driving up RHTSep 17 23:22
Diablo-D3I never said wall street was smart or even logicalSep 17 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Romania to develop national open source IT policy http://ur1.ca/1n3rb Microsoft uses tricks in Romania to avoid finesSep 17 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I had planned on other things....quick Q...decent Skype recorder for Linux? any recommendations?Sep 17 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz Romania to develop national open source IT policy http://ur1.ca/1n3rb Microsoft uses tricks in Romania to avoid finesSep 17 23:24
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gnufreexThe media tries to paint Novell's failure as failure of open source, and to add Red Hat in same basket. In hope that they make RHT stock go down too, due to uncertinity. cubevectorSep 17 23:25
gnufreexOStatic had FUDish article.Sep 17 23:26
cubevectorjournalists should be neutralSep 17 23:26
cubevectorguess the year:Sep 17 23:27
cubevectorhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/NY_stock_exchange_traders_floor_LC-U9-10548-6.jpgSep 17 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBSep 17 23:27
gnufreex1929Sep 17 23:27
gnufreex?Sep 17 23:27
cubevectorlolSep 17 23:27
cubevector1963Sep 17 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For details about Microsoft's borderline criminal behaviour in #Romania see http://ur1.ca/1nrqa http://ur1.ca/1nrqdSep 17 23:28
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gnufreexI thought big stock crash was 29Sep 17 23:28
gnufreexhttp://ostatic.com/blog/more-rumors-emerge-about-a-novell-acquisitionSep 17 23:30
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gnufreexThat is article I was talking about. They try to say Novell was focused on open source goals.Sep 17 23:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Augen brings $190 Android netbook to Kmart http://ur1.ca/1nrwp ...a !Linux computer on every shelfSep 17 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Philippine government to make $75 tablet PC for schoolchildren http://ur1.ca/1nryj Guess the OS?Sep 17 23:53
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schestowitz[23:12] <cubevector> Ballmer is a walking metaphor for MicrosoftSep 17 23:53
schestowitz:-pSep 17 23:53
schestowitzgnufreex: I told him beforeSep 17 23:54
schestowitzIn a waySep 17 23:54
schestowitzThat it's not a FOSS companySep 17 23:54
schestowitzBut I only communicate with them via linkbacksSep 17 23:54
schestowitzSOmetimes they link to us tooSep 17 23:55
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Always-Innovating-Smart-Book/Sep 17 23:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It's a MID, a tablet, a netbook, even an external display! - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.27 KBSep 17 23:55

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