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| oiaohm | openssl is just a great example of what happens when stuff is not checked by upstream and upstream tests have a flaw. | Sep 16 00:00 |
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| oiaohm | And why changing optisation flags away from what upstream has tested can equal nightmares. | Sep 16 00:02 |
| oiaohm | I cannot count how many people have came into winehq with a wine problems that traced to them playing with optimisation flags in compliers. Ie wine is picky. | Sep 16 00:03 |
| oiaohm | I have had 4 in the last month alone but its been a slow month for it. | Sep 16 00:04 |
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| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: hey | Sep 16 00:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | what happened to the guy building wine debs for debian? | Sep 16 00:05 |
| oiaohm | He has left for Ubuntu because he is pissed off with debian 32 bit support on 64 bit systems. | Sep 16 00:05 |
| oiaohm | Ie particular 32 bit libs wine needs are not in the ia32 packages. | Sep 16 00:06 |
| oiaohm | And I do mean needs without out them lots of applications don't work. Diablo-D3 | Sep 16 00:06 |
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| Diablo-D3 | I dunno man | Sep 16 00:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive been using ubuntu's debs fine | Sep 16 00:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | without importing ia32 libs too | Sep 16 00:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I use debian's ia32 libs packages | Sep 16 00:08 |
| oiaohm | You must not use any of the programs effected. | Sep 16 00:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | apparently not. | Sep 16 00:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | steam and a few games work | Sep 16 00:09 |
| oiaohm | Basically he got sick of being on the recieving end. | Sep 16 00:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | although I still have the source games randomly shitting themselves problem | Sep 16 00:09 |
| oiaohm | For debian problems. | Sep 16 00:09 |
| oiaohm | The problem effects lot of CD based games. | Sep 16 00:09 |
| oiaohm | Not online provides like steam | Sep 16 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Ie particularlly CD drive labels not being extracted so game cannot find it CD | Sep 16 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Yes lots of people effected. | Sep 16 00:10 |
| oiaohm | He still builds the ubuntu wine packages in a way they can be installed on both. But not offically releasing for debian means he has out if something don't work. Diablo-D3 | Sep 16 00:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | hrm | Sep 16 00:14 |
| oiaohm | When he stopped I looked at taking up Debian package production. | Sep 16 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Then he gave me a nice warning. | Sep 16 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Ie the classic hear be dragons. | Sep 16 00:16 |
| schestowitz | here be drag ons | Sep 16 00:17 |
| schestowitz | there be crahes | Sep 16 00:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: this isnt windows | Sep 16 00:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | dohohohoho | Sep 16 00:18 |
| schestowitz | here be EULA | Sep 16 00:19 |
| schestowitz | there be DRM | Sep 16 00:19 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: here be companies declaring all out war on any customer who asserts ownership of the product they buy | Sep 16 00:19 |
| oiaohm | Ziomatrix: legally you don't buy software | Sep 16 00:20 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: I know, you license it blah blah blah | Sep 16 00:21 |
| oiaohm | Now not all companies have bad licences. | Sep 16 00:21 |
| oiaohm | People need to wake up and start being licence picky. | Sep 16 00:21 |
| Ziomatrix | I wonder if this ruling which could effect EULAs and make them more legally bound may nullify business's ex-post facto ability to amend them for all customers: http://tinyurl.com/38r66ry | Sep 16 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: No, you don't own it: Court upholds EULAs, threatens digital resale .::. Size~: 32.51 KB | Sep 16 00:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=571 Debian Bugs Search using UDD | Sep 16 00:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @evan If your application embeds media from around the Web, use http://oembed.com/. It's clever, elegant, and working. | Sep 16 00:22 | |
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| oiaohm | Heck I still meet many people who have never read a software licence. | Sep 16 00:22 |
| oiaohm | Software licences should be treated like contracts. You should at least read what you are agreeing to. | Sep 16 00:23 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: a EULA still shouldn't reign over common law | Sep 16 00:23 |
| oiaohm | EULA is copyright. | Sep 16 00:23 |
| oiaohm | What gave you the right to make a copy of it. | Sep 16 00:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @webmink the OSI Web site has been down for many hours and I'm sad you don't write there anymore | Sep 16 00:24 | |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: if its legally binding then companies should also follow by the rules and do no ex-post facto willy nilly like Sony has done with the PS3 | Sep 16 00:24 |
| oiaohm | Answer question were did you get the legal right to make a copy. | Sep 16 00:24 |
| oiaohm | This is a common law problem Ziomatrix | Sep 16 00:24 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: this is not about copying, its about businesses making and breaking whatever suites there interests in bad faith to their customers | Sep 16 00:25 |
| oiaohm | It is about coping. | Sep 16 00:25 |
| oiaohm | EULA and GPL are both copyleaf style licences. | Sep 16 00:25 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: what does SCE removing a feature and risking the breaking of older PS3 consoles in the process constitute a justification in terms of copying? | Sep 16 00:25 |
| oiaohm | Did you not read the licence. Ziomatrix | Sep 16 00:26 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: what does it have to do with Apple's antics concerning using your product with applications not iTunes approved? | Sep 16 00:26 |
| oiaohm | You agreed to allow updates. | Sep 16 00:26 |
| oiaohm | of anyform. | Sep 16 00:26 |
| oiaohm | Stiff. | Sep 16 00:26 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: what if the license changes from the one I formally agreed to in order to cover up what they could have breached with you? | Sep 16 00:27 |
| oiaohm | That was in the PS3 licence as well. | Sep 16 00:27 |
| oiaohm | That you granted the right that they could change licence. | Sep 16 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Some licences pure sux. | Sep 16 00:27 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: but ex-post facto breaks Constitutional Law | Sep 16 00:27 |
| oiaohm | No | Sep 16 00:28 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: how can they change the license to something I never upgraded to or only after I buy it? | Sep 16 00:28 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: in fact how can a EULA be binding if they only present to you after purchase? | Sep 16 00:28 |
| oiaohm | EULA if you don't agree allows for it to be returned. | Sep 16 00:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Was the new wallpaper approved by Mac Asay? http://ur1.ca/1mzm4 advances stereotype of !Linux copycatting http://ur1.ca/1mzm5 | Sep 16 00:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 1/3 of machine-readable P3P privacy policies contain errors - EFF boardmember Cranor CMU colleagues http://eff.org/r.4rk | Sep 16 00:29 | |
| oiaohm | And refunded if you don't agree | Sep 16 00:29 |
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| oiaohm | But recentlly its been full machine not just the software. Ziomatrix | Sep 16 00:29 |
| oiaohm | So yes at the EULA point you still have the legal right to choose out. | Sep 16 00:29 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: what if the retailer you bought it from doesn't allow full refunds on unsealed products? | Sep 16 00:30 |
| oiaohm | Then retailer is in breach of supply contract. Ziomatrix | Sep 16 00:30 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: or perhaps you don't agree with the updated EULA and what it concerns | Sep 16 00:30 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: perhaps that should mean retailers should uphold returning a product for full refund at any time regardless of use? | Sep 16 00:31 |
| oiaohm | Retailer can avoid EULA returns by providing EULA to you before you leave store. | Sep 16 00:31 |
| oiaohm | So if they are complaining about broken packages they have broken policies. | Sep 16 00:31 |
| oiaohm | There are limitations in how a EULA can be changed normally stated in the EULA | Sep 16 00:32 |
| oiaohm | As along as the alterations are inside those limits you agreed to it. Ziomatrix | Sep 16 00:32 |
| oiaohm | Problem was PS3 had very wide limits. | Sep 16 00:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bruce Perens: Deleted Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn Accounts! http://perens.com/blog/d/2010/9/14/36/ "I kept my account on identi.ca," | Sep 16 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Both look awful. Seems like puke. Ugh | Sep 16 00:34 | |
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| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: however the older EULA concerned software and service changes in reflection of PSN access. However, the reality is you need a firmware update for disc based games and even new movie titles | Sep 16 00:34 |
| oiaohm | Its bit like GPLv2 and latter. You agreed at the time that a latter version of GPL licence can be used. No matter how different. | Sep 16 00:34 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: but then how does Google get away with only following GPLv1? | Sep 16 00:34 |
| oiaohm | I don't know of anything google does that is GPLv1 | Sep 16 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | gpl v1 doesnt even exist | Sep 16 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was stricken from the history books | Sep 16 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | and all copies burned | Sep 16 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | the first version of the GPL was v2. | Sep 16 00:35 |
| oiaohm | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-1.0.html | Sep 16 00:36 |
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| oiaohm | History of it still exists | Sep 16 00:36 |
| oiaohm | But I know of no project using it. | Sep 16 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: thanks for ruining my humor | Sep 16 00:36 |
| oiaohm | So yes it been basically burnt from everywhere bar history books. | Sep 16 00:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @m3tti want to get rid of flash because you only need it for youtube and vimeo use this firefox plugin http://is.gd/fctve !gnu !trisq ... | Sep 16 00:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sabayon !KDE 4.5.x ? http://wolf911.us/wgo/?p=478 "Applications seem to be working fine and snappy." | Sep 16 00:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @eff 1/3 of machine-readable P3P privacy policies contain errors - EFF boardmember Cranor CMU colleagues http://eff.org/r.4rk | Sep 16 00:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @m3tti want to get rid of flash because you only need it for youtube and vimeo use this firefox plugin http://is.gd/fctve !gnu !trisq ... | Sep 16 00:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Default Wallpaper - TuxMachines poll http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/47786 | Sep 16 00:45 | |
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| bruce89 | thing with wallpapers is that you'll never get everyone to like one | Sep 16 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | Sep 16 00:47 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: so you're basically saying whatever you sign in an EULA you're screwed to follow? | Sep 16 00:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | I use a photograph of the milkyway, corrected for parallax | Sep 16 00:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | half of its on one screen, half on the other | Sep 16 00:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | with it skewed to have the center in the middle of my main screen | Sep 16 00:47 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: in your opinion is there any reasonable limit someone could just proclaim it to be ridiculous and have it overturned in court? | Sep 16 00:47 |
| oiaohm | If it breaks a law then you don't have to follow it. Ziomatrix | Sep 16 00:48 |
| oiaohm | But Microsoft is careful to include a clause that each part is independant. | Sep 16 00:49 |
| bruce89 | I just used pictures I took myself | Sep 16 00:50 |
| oiaohm | Yes basically screwed to the same ammount as signing a contract then trying to back out because you did not read it even that you had the chance. Ziomatrix | Sep 16 00:50 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: I read it, which is why it infuriates me SCE has the ability to change it on the fly to whatever suites them for future upgrades even if you originally had no intent to agreeing to such terms if you even thought of the possibility of them coming about before giving them your hard earned money | Sep 16 00:51 |
| oiaohm | Sorry you agreed to allow the licence to be changed. | Sep 16 00:52 |
| oiaohm | GPLv2 or latter would fall apart developer down the track could change the mind and say no the licence cannot be changed. | Sep 16 00:53 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: so then what grounds do some have to a class action lawsuit, besides addressing grievances? | Sep 16 00:53 |
| oiaohm | You could be able to apply for refund based in reduced funtinallity of the device. | Sep 16 00:54 |
| oiaohm | That is about it. | Sep 16 00:54 |
| oiaohm | Problem here is they can argue they have provided extra functionality to off set the cost. | Sep 16 00:55 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: I have only seen that work in the UK | Sep 16 00:55 |
| oiaohm | The case is messy. | Sep 16 00:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Preview: GIMP 2.8 http://ur1.ca/1mzsr "Single Window Mode. An old favorite request from the user community." Arghhhhhh :-) :-) | Sep 16 00:55 | |
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| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: however what if what they claim to "offset" it with it entirely different then what you desire or want from the product? | Sep 16 00:56 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/50270976#notice-50688998 "@schestowitz It's a pity that the community wallpapers are licenced CC BY-SA 2.5 (according to the tarball) which Debian considers nonfree" | Sep 16 00:56 |
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| oiaohm | That is why its a hard case to win. Ziomatrix | Sep 16 00:57 |
| oiaohm | You have to get judge/jury to agree with you. Ziomatrix | Sep 16 00:57 |
| oiaohm | So its a costly process as well. | Sep 16 00:57 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: think of the children, and what they can learn from programming in Linux as apposed to shooting up virtual objects. ;) | Sep 16 00:58 |
| oiaohm | Basically companies only do these things to you because they know you will let them do it. | Sep 16 00:58 |
| oiaohm | Its not like everyone demards that games consoles be open source and alteratable. So they are in charge of there hardware | Sep 16 00:59 |
| oiaohm | Instead you want the games so stiff. | Sep 16 00:59 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: or at least all the services and software that enables them to subsidize selling the hardware | Sep 16 00:59 |
| bruce89 | whoops, that means my wallpaper is non-free then | Sep 16 00:59 |
| oiaohm | Creative commons by any chance. bruce89 | Sep 16 01:00 |
| bruce89 | 2.0, it's from flickr | Sep 16 01:00 |
| oiaohm | Yes wallpapers can be licenced in a way that it can be changed. | Sep 16 01:00 |
| oiaohm | So still fall under FOSS ideas bruce89 | Sep 16 01:01 |
| bruce89 | I'd gladly licence if anyone wants it | Sep 16 01:01 |
| bruce89 | under 3.0 that is | Sep 16 01:01 |
| bruce89 | just flickr only allows 2.0 I believe | Sep 16 01:01 |
| oiaohm | Basically I am not a good person to complain to. Ziomatrix | Sep 16 01:01 |
| oiaohm | I do some closed source software mostly because people will not pay enoungh for my time todo the same software open source. | Sep 16 01:02 |
| Ziomatrix | oiaohm: thats apparent, but at least you're a fine debating and one I can learn a thing or two from | Sep 16 01:02 |
| Ziomatrix | anyway laterz | Sep 16 01:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Palm webOS 2.0 preview video hits the wilds http://ur1.ca/1mzvl | Sep 16 01:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @magicbus @ratfink Right on. I have no need for Facebook/Twitter. Identi.ca and open-source forever. | Sep 16 01:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Adobe releases 64-bit Flash Player 'Square' for Windows, Mac, and Linux http://ur1.ca/1mzz3 | Sep 16 01:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 15/9/2010: Linux Mint Coverage, Best Buy Using Drupal http://techrights.org/2010/09/15/best-buy-drupal/ | Sep 16 01:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz For a second I read that as "Best Buy BUYS Drupal", and was about to say Drupal are kinda proudly independant | Sep 16 01:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Palm webOS 2.0 preview video hits the wilds http://ur1.ca/1mzvl via @mohanpram !linux #hp | Sep 16 01:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @schestowitz Trying to find out why but ironically my home broadband is down too... | Sep 16 01:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SUSE Proponents Guess Who's Buying #SUSE http://ur1.ca/1n06w #VMware is a likely buyer, maybe even #microsoft | Sep 16 01:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir "United Group for use OpenOffice.org & OpenDocument Format" (ODPG) announced in Japan #ODF http://bit.ly/bjvlBZ 15 companies... | Sep 16 01:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @joindiaspora is it !AGPLv3-only? | Sep 16 02:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @ElReg: Novell breakup and sale imminent, says report: SUSE Linux to VMware? http://bit.ly/9ttVSn @doctaron @trevorlong | Sep 16 02:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @joindiaspora DIASPORA IS REAL! blog: http://bit.ly/9vbQoE; code: http://bit.ly/cJVIIN #diaspora | Sep 16 02:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] I don't think so, according to github.com/diaspora/diaspora but github.com/diaspora/diaspora/blob/master/COPYRIGHT needs to be changed !AGPL | Sep 16 02:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] #Diaspora has released its code to developers today as promised. Consumer-ready alpha expected in October. http://bit.ly/976LAM | Sep 16 02:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] ArsDigita: From Start-Up to Bust-Up http://ur1.ca/1n09e | Sep 16 02:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oklahoma city threatens to call FBI over 'renegade' Linux maker (from 2006) http://ur1.ca/1n0ag | Sep 16 02:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oklahoma city threatens to call FBI over 'renegade' Linux maker • The Register .::. Size~: 27.67 KB | Sep 16 02:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I've become rather enamoured with !Debian Squeeze, that I'm putting it on the netbook | Sep 16 02:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Testing out IE 9 beta...why is the URL bar so small? Other than that so far not too shabby! | Sep 16 02:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for September 16, 2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/404436/rss | Sep 16 02:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sometimes all you can do is laugh http://bit.ly/b7vsyL | Sep 16 02:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oklahoma city threatens to call FBI over 'renegade' Linux maker • The Register .::. Size~: 27.67 KB | Sep 16 02:20 |
| bruce89 | not again | Sep 16 02:25 |
| bruce89 | aw, not the case, but it's still a good laugh | Sep 16 02:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Click video: Apple wants to get in bed with newspaper business http://ht.ly/191B8N | Sep 16 02:29 | |
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| Ziomatrix | perhaps if this verdict upholds things could turn out differently concerning SCE's ever changing EULA: http://tinyurl.com/qjd6gg | Sep 16 02:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] My new blog entry: Four Years And The Chasm - http://is.gd/fcDx8 #ubuntu #community | Sep 16 02:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I have to say I was shocked to read Larry's blog title "I Believe in Astrology" http://ur1.ca/1n0gn #humour #astrology #gladwell | Sep 16 02:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn you consider #SunRPC to be !free software (before the 2009-2010 relicensing)? I don't. Same for some of those old TeX licenses. | Sep 16 02:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #God_bless #OpenID. I wish all websites supported it. | Sep 16 02:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @tom_watson In praise of the Daily Star. The only tabloid to cover the Sienna Miller phone hack story. http://ur1.ca/1n0ic !privacy | Sep 16 02:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Do I need to sign this to and get approced to report bugs about !diaspora? http://www.pivotaltracker.com/signin/eula | Sep 16 02:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Just reported this #diaspora_bug: http://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/issue/11 | Sep 16 02:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @j1mc @greg I find it a bit odd that a group of people advocating open web services is using github instead of gitorious for their pr ... | Sep 16 02:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] freeIPA CLA dismantled. http://freeipa.org/page/Contribute#CLA | Sep 16 03:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Power Management Patches For Nouveau, Finally: While the Nouveau kernel mode-setting / DRM driver has been living ... http://bit.ly/cJtRnS | Sep 16 03:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Project OpenIndiana Has Been Detailed: Last week we reported on a new OpenSolaris derivative project would be anno... http://bit.ly/9dMQjE | Sep 16 03:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mark Shuttleworth Talks About What Ubuntu Contributes: For those wishing to spend some time reading a long blog po... http://bit.ly/c3JdPQ | Sep 16 03:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mesa 7.8.3 Release Candidate 1 Is Here: While Mesa 7.9 is just around the corner with a great number of new featur... http://bit.ly/avU4X8 | Sep 16 03:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Nexenta 3.0 Benchmarked Against PC-BSD, OpenSolaris, Ubuntu: With the release of Nexenta Core Platform 3.0 a few w... http://bit.ly/98pHDV | Sep 16 03:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Eclipse Linux task-specific Downloads: http://bit.ly/13ASGs | Sep 16 03:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Disable ssh root direct login: http://bit.ly/a1biwu | Sep 16 03:39 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | why the hell is moronix on the bot | Sep 16 03:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Connecting to mysql using Perl DBI: http://bit.ly/be52uc | Sep 16 03:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Ubuntu's MySQL connectors for Perl: http://bit.ly/df0bhV | Sep 16 03:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Pedobear Panic Hits Tulsa, Oklahoma http://gawker.com/5639308/ | Sep 16 04:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: 1/3 of machine-readable P3P privacy policies contain errors - EFF boardmember Cranor CMU colleagues http://eff.org/r.4rk | Sep 16 04:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Ha, I've never saw a github project gain so much watchers in so little time - http://github.com/diaspora/diaspora @joindiaspora | Sep 16 04:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #God_bless Wikipedia. | Sep 16 04:35 | |
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| TheMadHatter | Roy, you around? | Sep 16 04:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] In Defense of Software Patents – Part 2 – With Commentary On Why Martin Goetz Is Wrong - UPDATED http://bit.ly/dkc51O | Sep 16 04:39 | |
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| TheMadHatter | Guess not. I've updated my article about Martin Goetz, now that his article is officially published. Apparently he hadn't finished the footnotes. | Sep 16 04:39 |
| TheMadHatter | Thanks for the information on it, that was fun. | Sep 16 04:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] AltDaily reviews The Art of Community - http://is.gd/fcNTn #community #artofcommunity #socialmedia | Sep 16 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] XBMC 10.0 "Dharma" Beta 2 Released, How to Install Latest XBMC http://ur1.ca/1n1mc | Sep 16 05:25 | |
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| TheMadHatter | This is neat | Sep 16 05:48 |
| TheMadHatter | http://semiaccurate.com/2010/09/14/displaylink-does-2560-x-1600-video-over-usb3/ | Sep 16 05:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @joncruz Finally getting people speaking up about the new extended input dialog in !inkscape 0.48. Need more info so I can improve it. | Sep 16 05:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Should public administrations promote private products, services and companies? http://tinyurl.com/37shdk6 | Sep 16 05:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @gege2061 Installation !Diaspora sous !Debian : http://gege2061.homecomputing.fr/content/installation-diaspora-sous-debian/ | Sep 16 05:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @brandonrunyon #diaspora is here! http://github.com/diaspora !fsf !social !gnu !media | Sep 16 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @nathwill ♺ @rpgmaster: New 64-bit Flash!!! :D http://bit.ly/TBd1 !linux > whoo!!! happy, but goddamn adobe, make up your minds! i ... | Sep 16 05:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @brandonrunyon #diaspora is here! http://github.com/diaspora !fsf !social !gnu !media | Sep 16 05:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @nathwill ♺ @rpgmaster: New 64-bit Flash!!! :D http://bit.ly/TBd1 !linux > whoo!!! happy, but goddamn adobe, make up your minds! i ... | Sep 16 05:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Apple dumped #DRM ? http://tinyurl.com/2wxp2bm | Sep 16 06:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] I'm osamak@openspora.com. | Sep 16 06:10 | |
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| kickback | The apple DRM link doesn't work | Sep 16 06:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @gnowgi RMS's message for software freedom day http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day.ogv | Sep 16 06:15 | |
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| TheMadHatter | no luck seearching at Google for it. Damn, I wonder what the details were. | Sep 16 06:20 |
| TheMadHatter | Looks like he's still online, I just IM'd him. | Sep 16 06:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @rsandu Hey man, the link for the Apple/DRM post doesn't work. Could you post the long form version? | Sep 16 06:24 | |
| TheMadHatter | And there goes Identica letting us know that I did ;) | Sep 16 06:24 |
| kickback | lol | Sep 16 06:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Mozilla suspends auto-updates for latest Firefox versions: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/15/moz_suspends_firefox_updates/ | Sep 16 06:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Avaya Announces #Android-Powered ‘ #Desktop #Video Device’ http://tinyurl.com/3y5avvd | Sep 16 07:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @thep Found kernel problem with broadcom-sta in !debian this morning. http://bugs.debian.org/597034 | Sep 16 07:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @themadhatteron Of course, thanks, it's http://www.macworld.com/article/138000/2009/01/drm_faq.html | Sep 16 07:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] you know when you call an old friend and the first thing they ask is 'why didn't you call?'? yeah.. I hate that. | Sep 16 07:14 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Florian has fun With the Bot/Baught puppet: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/24575623624 | Sep 16 07:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / FOSS Patents: @edbott Your IE9 preview ( ... .::. Size~: 9.34 KB | Sep 16 07:20 |
| schestowitz | "Your IE9 preview is first-rate, great." | Sep 16 07:20 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Sep 16 07:20 |
| schestowitz | "FOSS" guy | Sep 16 07:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Developer Release - http://bit.ly/9Eadaz "Today we are releasing the source code for Diaspora." good to hear #socialnws | Sep 16 07:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft criticizes Brazilian government's position about free software - http://bit.ly/9OeTxl vacuous arguments #microsoft #fud #brazil | Sep 16 07:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Astronauts' Fingernails Falling Off Due to Glove Design - http://bit.ly/9yteke eeek #space | Sep 16 07:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] 64-bit Adobe Flash Linux Support Is Back: Earlier this year Adobe made the rather strange decision to pull their 6... http://bit.ly/cBB6zy | Sep 16 07:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Where Wayland May First Appear In Use By A Distro: Yesterday there was a gathering for a few hours among X.Org dev... http://bit.ly/aYfpeV | Sep 16 07:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Agenda digitală: Proiectul UE de reţele grid http://ec.europa.eu/romania/news/15092010_ro.htm #digitalagenda #romania #eu | Sep 16 07:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] E-voting system failures lead to call for public clearinghouse - http://bit.ly/audg7x transparency is good #evoting | Sep 16 08:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody E-voting system failures lead to call for public clearinghouse - http://bit.ly/audg7x transparency is good #evoting | Sep 16 08:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Choice is Messy (Free Software Likes It That Way) http://ur1.ca/1n2sp individuality is important, just like in everything | Sep 16 08:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Choice is Messy (Free Software Likes It That Way) — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 70.1 KB | Sep 16 08:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat tops list of hottest IT security certifications http://ur1.ca/1n2ts good investment for the future, too | Sep 16 08:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @pavithran RT @shackra: VICTORIA HISTÓRICA DEL #SOFTWARELIBRE FRENTE A LAS PATENTES DE SOFTWARE EN EEUU http://ur1.ca/1mn6r #gnu !fs | Sep 16 08:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Microsoft criticizes Brazilian government's position about free software - http://bit.ly/9OeTxl vacuous arguments #microso ... | Sep 16 08:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: VICTORIA HISTÓRICA DEL SOFTWARE LIBRE FRENTE A LAS PATENTES DE SOFTWARE EN EEUU | Hispalinux .::. Size~: 12.4 KB | Sep 16 08:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Englishman Who Posted Himself: biography of a postal experimenter - http://bit.ly/aN5XnV English eccentricity at its finest | Sep 16 08:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just signed up on http://openspora.com/ !joindiaspora !linux !fsf free alternative to facebook | Sep 16 08:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What is Dalvik? - http://bit.ly/9aeE3O handy intro to Google's virtual machine #android #google | Sep 16 08:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] is richs-lxh@openspora.com on !joindiaspora | Sep 16 08:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Red Hat tops list of hottest IT security certifications http://ur1.ca/1n2ts good investment for the future, too | Sep 16 08:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free climbing a tower higher than the Empire State Building - http://bit.ly/agML5N yeah, I could do that...well, maybe not, actually... | Sep 16 08:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Great Indian $35 Tablet Hoax? http://ur1.ca/1n30c Let's hope it's real and coming. | Sep 16 08:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] good morning, people of identica! | Sep 16 08:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Enjoying the new community wallpapers (in !Ubuntu #Maverick Meerkat) http://goo.gl/QwsE | Sep 16 08:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Owens: Want to go to UDS Narwhal? !ubuntu #locoteams http://goo.gl/Vx2v | Sep 16 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Script To Notify You When Someone Logs In To Your Computer [Using NotifyOSD Or Email Notifications] http://goo.gl/GL9v | Sep 16 08:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Adobe Finally Releases A New Adobe Flash Player 64bit - Yes, For Linux Too! http://goo.gl/1vAE | Sep 16 08:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: !Canonical's Experiments With Hardware Sensors, Life Beyond Keyboards and TouchScreens http://goo.gl/V4E0 | Sep 16 08:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: !Canonical's Experiments With Hardware Sensors, Life Beyond Keyboards and TouchScreens http://goo.gl/UHO7 | Sep 16 08:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I've just joined !diaspora through the openspora.com server. Let's see... | Sep 16 09:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Meeh. Bad start of day after reading my mails. | Sep 16 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !WorksWithU: #Unity Netbook Interface Debuts for !Ubuntu 10.10 http://goo.gl/qAyx | Sep 16 09:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Brian Murray: #Launchpad #Greasemonkey Scripts in !Chromium Browser http://goo.gl/Ydif | Sep 16 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Future Collision of 3D Printer Manufacturers - http://bit.ly/aemCJI useful summary #3dprinters #fabbers #reprap | Sep 16 09:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical: !Ubuntu Pay (the new payment service that allows you to buy commercial software) is open for translations http://goo.gl/visg | Sep 16 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jane Austen’s Fiction Manuscripts Online - http://bit.ly/cUu6Sj how splendid #janeausten | Sep 16 09:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Four Years And The Chasm http://goo.gl/LXJK | Sep 16 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] No more unread news in my #Feedly | Sep 16 09:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WikiEducator - http://bit.ly/9HVfNB "collaboration between the OER Foundation, the OpenCourseWare Consortium, Creative Commoners" | Sep 16 09:20 | |
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| schestowitz | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/cnews/article.php/3902946/Tech-Comics-But-Im-Hilarious.htm "Tech Comics: "But I'm Hilarious"" | Sep 16 09:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://ur1.ca/1n3jx "This seemed pertinent, in light of the recent stories debating Linux desktop market share" --LinuxToday #stats #comic | Sep 16 09:24 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Sep 16 09:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-09-11-005-35-OP-DT-MR | Sep 16 09:27 |
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| kickback | that dilbert one was nice | Sep 16 09:28 |
| MinceR | nice article on the 1% myth | Sep 16 09:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Status report of the #WIndows port of !UbuntuOne - http://goo.gl/0aCh | Sep 16 09:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How far are we porting Ubuntu One to windows? | Macaque Project .::. Size~: 22.88 KB | Sep 16 09:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @wiesngauditv: Constanze von Heckel bei der #Wiesn-Presseführung 2010 #Oktoberfest http://ur1.ca/1n3lf | Sep 16 09:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] That's... too high... too scary... http://goo.gl/OFSo | Sep 16 09:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Climbing up to the tower ! to Heaven ! .::. Size~: 112.58 KB | Sep 16 09:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the US *is* the world. Cope with it. | Sep 16 09:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @zach: RT @evan “Developer Release” — http://www.joindiaspora.com/2010/09/15/developer-release.html Congrats @joindiaspora! #fsw #ftw | Sep 16 09:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Developer Release .::. Size~: 6.62 KB | Sep 16 09:37 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Sep 16 09:37 |
| schestowitz | And BTW | Sep 16 09:37 |
| schestowitz | 10% use Bong [sic] | Sep 16 09:37 |
| schestowitz | Says the US | Sep 16 09:37 |
| schestowitz | Not 3% | Sep 16 09:37 |
| schestowitz | Those who control the world count... and the English-speaking media. Repeat, repeat, repeat , repeat. | Sep 16 09:38 |
| schestowitz | 10% | Sep 16 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Linux=1% | Sep 16 09:38 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: but then we both live outside the world! | Sep 16 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Bong =10% | Sep 16 09:38 |
| *MinceR floats away in space | Sep 16 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | WIndows=95% | Sep 16 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Office too | Sep 16 09:38 |
| schestowitz | They checked in US firms | Sep 16 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Commissioned by Redmond | Sep 16 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Cause nobody checks stats "just for fun" | Sep 16 09:39 |
| schestowitz | No bias=no sale | Sep 16 09:39 |
| cubevector | eh? | Sep 16 09:39 |
| oiaohm | I have forgot to mention this one. I have had avg jamming search engines in webbrowsers to yahoo. | Sep 16 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loves to lie | Sep 16 09:39 |
| schestowitz | It's a professional company http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/09/15/more-faces-than-mount-rushmore-microsofts-about-turn-no-alliance-with-russian-government/ | Sep 16 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Who said Repeat a lie often enough and it will believed? | Sep 16 09:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More faces than Mount Rushmore Microsofts about turn? No alliance with Russian Government? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 46.96 KB | Sep 16 09:40 |
| schestowitz | "A lie told often enough becomes truth" Vladimir Lenin. | Sep 16 09:40 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 16 09:40 |
| cubevector | Linux is not 1% | Sep 16 09:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux _GLOBAL_ market share is not 1%. Microsoft would have people believe it has 10% in search (US only), not 2-3% (GLOBAL). | Sep 16 09:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "A lie told often enough becomes truth" -Vladimir Lenin. And Microsoft seems to get along well with such people. http://ur1.ca/1n3pp | Sep 16 09:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More faces than Mount Rushmore Microsofts about turn? No alliance with Russian Government? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 46.99 KB | Sep 16 09:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it." William James, father of modern Psychology | Sep 16 09:44 | |
| kickback | that 1% bullshit is almost as stupid as the "most men think of sex every 7 seconds" things you find on feminist camps | Sep 16 09:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/stories/DN-russia_12int.ART.State.Edition1.35d39f6.html | Sep 16 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Russian officials raid opposition groups under pretext of searching for pirated Microsoft software | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Headline | International News .::. Size~: 143.15 KB | Sep 16 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Would you trust these men? | Sep 16 09:46 |
| *schestowitz wished he could parse full server logs for web stats | Sep 16 09:47 | |
| cubevector | I don't trust anyone at microsoft | Sep 16 09:47 |
| kickback | i cant trust most 'technology' blogs either | Sep 16 09:47 |
| cubevector | I used to trust Commodore, I had some dealings with them | Sep 16 09:47 |
| cubevector | but they sort of died | Sep 16 09:47 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft=antitrust | Sep 16 09:48 |
| cubevector | well some people just have noses for grind-stones | Sep 16 09:48 |
| cubevector | I like blogs that are informational | Sep 16 09:48 |
| kickback | schestowitz: unfortunately, most computer companies nowadays = antitrust :( | Sep 16 09:48 |
| kickback | cubevector: i'm mostly talking about popular tech blogs | Sep 16 09:49 |
| cubevector | oh well then... | Sep 16 09:49 |
| kickback | they're ostly advertisements than information | Sep 16 09:49 |
| cubevector | yes | Sep 16 09:49 |
| cubevector | 1st hand information is always the best | Sep 16 09:49 |
| cubevector | if you want to know if something is good, try it yourself | Sep 16 09:50 |
| cubevector | after 22 years of dealing with doze, I know it's bad | Sep 16 09:50 |
| kickback | exactly | Sep 16 09:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] compiling ruby to run #diaspora on my laptop ... | Sep 16 09:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @wiesngauditv: Auch die #fdp ist da... #wiesn #oktoberfest http://ur1.ca/1n3s2 | Sep 16 09:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] X.Org Is Looking For A New Logo: XDS 2010 has just begun in Toulouse, France. Well, besides yesterday's pre-event... http://bit.ly/d4jrtF | Sep 16 09:54 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] X.Org Is Looking For A New Logo .::. Size~: 17.63 KB | Sep 16 09:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Am I a bad person for turning Google Instant off? | Sep 16 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Romania to develop national open source IT policy http://is.gd/fd4uv #gnu #linux #freesoftware #romania #osor | Sep 16 09:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Romania to develop national open source IT policy — .::. Size~: 27.99 KB | Sep 16 09:56 |
| cubevector | well I'm pleased how nice and cool my Pentium III (Coppermine) is running | Sep 16 09:58 |
| cubevector | at first I thought the sensors were wrong, but I've seen other results for the same cpu and the temperatures are similar | Sep 16 09:59 |
| kickback | OH MY GOD | Sep 16 09:59 |
| kickback | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7,788,063.PN.&OS=PN/7,788,063&RS=PN/7,788,063 | Sep 16 09:59 |
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| cubevector | I realize that p3 is old, but the slightly older p3 katmai cpu ran a lot hotter | Sep 16 10:00 |
| cubevector | I can't think of any cpu that runs cooler actually | Sep 16 10:01 |
| cubevector | except really really old ones | Sep 16 10:01 |
| cubevector | +26.6°C | Sep 16 10:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @wiesngauditv: 1st Interview 2010 with Andreas Lotte (#spd) #wiesn #oktoberfest http://ur1.ca/1n3tu | Go! Go! Go! | Sep 16 10:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/identica/wiesngauditv-20100916T085732-vggmmdk.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.86 KB | Sep 16 10:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #diaspora fails to install due to ruby activesupport gem going poof. Will wait a few days. | Sep 16 10:04 | |
| oiaohm | Some arm cpu in phones and adsl modems. cubevector | Sep 16 10:05 |
| oiaohm | Hard to beat on been cool. | Sep 16 10:05 |
| cubevector | how about for desktop motherboard oiaohm? | Sep 16 10:05 |
| oiaohm | Some VIA cpus particularlly the ones that run heat sinkless. cubevector | Sep 16 10:06 |
| oiaohm | Only about 1.5 ghz. | Sep 16 10:06 |
| oiaohm | Slightly hotter than best temp arm but still beats old p3 without problems. | Sep 16 10:07 |
| cubevector | it would be interesting to see if coreboot supported any VIA boards | Sep 16 10:07 |
| cubevector | yup, there are a few | Sep 16 10:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @phoronix X.Org Is Looking For A New Logo: XDS 2010 has just begun in Toulouse, France.... http://bit.ly/d4jrtF | Sep 16 10:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] X.Org Is Looking For A New Logo .::. Size~: 17.63 KB | Sep 16 10:10 |
| kickback | what Xorg really needs to look for is a clue | Sep 16 10:11 |
| oiaohm | Basically heat is sign of power waste. cubevector | Sep 16 10:11 |
| schestowitz | CLUE? | Sep 16 10:11 |
| oiaohm | kickback: in what way. | Sep 16 10:11 |
| oiaohm | X.org internal design has majorally changed. | Sep 16 10:12 |
| oiaohm | So it only fair it changes logo to match. | Sep 16 10:12 |
| kickback | what i mean is they need to get a clue | Sep 16 10:12 |
| MinceR | afaik all power is converted into heat there | Sep 16 10:12 |
| oiaohm | kickback: Lot of ways x.org are doing the right things slowly. | Sep 16 10:13 |
| MinceR | i don't see what's wrong with the current x.org logo | Sep 16 10:13 |
| oiaohm | So they have a clue progress is a issue. | Sep 16 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft attitude: rename, remarket and if all else fails 'pull a KIN' or 'pull another Mojave' | Sep 16 10:13 |
| oiaohm | They are wanting a clear divide between DRI1 and DRI2 tech MinceR | Sep 16 10:14 |
| oiaohm | Ie new logo for X.org that no longer supports DRI1 drivers at all. | Sep 16 10:14 |
| MinceR | the logo doesn't say DRI1 :> | Sep 16 10:14 |
| kickback | schestowitz: you forgot "add more transparency effects" :P | Sep 16 10:14 |
| oiaohm | I know it does not but from a support point of view MinceR | Sep 16 10:15 |
| oiaohm | Basically there is a internal design reason to change logo | Sep 16 10:15 |
| oiaohm | Ie if You X11 server has X logo it old DRI1 or DRI1/DRI2 internal. If new DRI2 only. | Sep 16 10:16 |
| schestowitz | kickback: help Intel sell on-board graphics | Sep 16 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Then tell them to help kill OLPC | Sep 16 10:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @koenigludwigi: Die Gesellen auf dero Festwiese scheinen der Motivation zu ermangeln! Rüstet euch für unsere Hochzeit! Herrgott! | Sep 16 10:17 | |
| kickback | to be fair, though, the intel graphics work pretty well on GNU/linux | Sep 16 10:17 |
| kickback | without proprietery drivers, that is | Sep 16 10:17 |
| oiaohm | Basically changing logo for no reason would have been insane. Also x.org has not done a good job telling people why they are changing graphics. | Sep 16 10:18 |
| oiaohm | Really kickback | Sep 16 10:18 |
| oiaohm | You have never used intel graphics on Linux with wine. | Sep 16 10:18 |
| oiaohm | Or blender or anything else that needs opengl to work. | Sep 16 10:18 |
| MinceR | i have | Sep 16 10:18 |
| MinceR | and i'm currently using it with something that needs opengl | Sep 16 10:18 |
| MinceR | and it works fine | Sep 16 10:18 |
| kickback | well, plenty of games | Sep 16 10:18 |
| kickback | and they work great | Sep 16 10:18 |
| MinceR | (that something is compositing in kwin) | Sep 16 10:19 |
| *schestowitz thinks we should give kickback to Microsoft :-) | Sep 16 10:19 | |
| oiaohm | Intel drivers linux drivers are still way behind there windows and os X drivers. | Sep 16 10:19 |
| oiaohm | for performance. | Sep 16 10:19 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i'd do it more personally than that | Sep 16 10:19 |
| MinceR | to some heads :> | Sep 16 10:20 |
| kickback | schestowitz: i'm talking about free software games of course ;) | Sep 16 10:20 |
| schestowitz | ;-) | Sep 16 10:20 |
| MinceR | it also works fine with Unreal Tournament 1 | Sep 16 10:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @adamjollans: IT in construction - standards enabled cool application for evaluating bids for new buildings in the context of Oslo | Sep 16 10:20 | |
| oiaohm | That is fairlly old. MinceR | Sep 16 10:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @adamjollans: You can not only see what the building will look like, but what it will look like in relation to the existing buildings | Sep 16 10:20 | |
| kickback | oiaohm: and so are ATI and NVIDIA ones, unless you use proprietary drivers | Sep 16 10:21 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: don't expect miracles from a netbook with an Atom N280 and a GMA 950 :> | Sep 16 10:21 |
| oiaohm | ATI open source drivers are getting quite resonable. Still more work required. | Sep 16 10:21 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia open source ones are still in needs of lot work. | Sep 16 10:22 |
| MinceR | so they both need more work | Sep 16 10:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] just checked, the recently-released Broadcom brcm80211 driver requires non-Free firmware :-( more !linuxlibre cleaning up to do | Sep 16 10:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If you want to know more about #wiesn #oktoberfest, you should follow @wiesngauditv and also bookmark their website http://is.gd/fd66M | Sep 16 10:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: What's your big idea for EU's Digital Agenda? Provide it here: http://bit.ly/cv6TXz Best ideas progressed to be discussed. | Sep 16 10:22 | |
| MinceR | meanwhile intel's drivers are free and they work | Sep 16 10:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wiesn-Gaudi TV .::. Size~: 21.16 KB | Sep 16 10:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: My big idea for the Digital Agenda | Europa - Information Society .::. Size~: 11.46 KB | Sep 16 10:22 |
| oiaohm | Hmm MinceR | Sep 16 10:22 |
| cubevector | I'm pretty happy with ATI | Sep 16 10:22 |
| oiaohm | At least with particular cards the ATI open source drivers are faster than the closed source or windows drivers on the same cards. | Sep 16 10:24 |
| MinceR | how old are those cards, 10 years? | Sep 16 10:24 |
| oiaohm | Upto R500's MinceR | Sep 16 10:25 |
| oiaohm | So 3 generations behind. | Sep 16 10:26 |
| oiaohm | Not too bad. | Sep 16 10:26 |
| MinceR | actually, that's too bad | Sep 16 10:26 |
| cubevector | I wonder how old my card is | Sep 16 10:27 |
| oiaohm | All the modern cards ATI cards still work with open source drivers with better performance than the intel drivers on adverage. | Sep 16 10:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @openoverheidnu EU wil minder barrières bij gebruik overheidsinfo http://is.gd/fd1BQ (via @JibbeVO ) #iRail #opendata | Sep 16 10:27 | |
| MinceR | my newest nvidia card is less than 1 year old | Sep 16 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU wil minder barrières bij gebruik overheidsinfo - news - ZDNet .::. Size~: 40.2 KB | Sep 16 10:27 |
| MinceR | probably so's my only intel GPU | Sep 16 10:27 |
| cubevector | RV350 Radeon 9550 | Sep 16 10:27 |
| oiaohm | Main reason lot of intel cards end up software rendering. MinceR | Sep 16 10:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: intel GPUs don't cost an arm and a leg for that though | Sep 16 10:28 |
| MinceR | if you pay the price of a high-end GPU, it's reasonable to expect the performance of a high-end GPU | Sep 16 10:28 |
| MinceR | free amd drivers can't provide that now, so they're useless | Sep 16 10:28 |
| cubevector | 2004 I think | Sep 16 10:29 |
| cubevector | wow, that's pretty new for me :) | Sep 16 10:29 |
| oiaohm | RS690 I forgot about it. | Sep 16 10:30 |
| oiaohm | ATI power effective and cheep version works perfectly MinceR | Sep 16 10:31 |
| oiaohm | And faster than the intel still. | Sep 16 10:31 |
| MinceR | haven't heard of that one | Sep 16 10:31 |
| MinceR | or "works perfectly" -- last time i checked they still missed some features in compiz, for example | Sep 16 10:32 |
| oiaohm | More common on server boards. | Sep 16 10:32 |
| MinceR | like blur | Sep 16 10:32 |
| oiaohm | No works 100 percent even with compiz | Sep 16 10:32 |
| MinceR | do server boards need to provide anything more than a text mode console? | Sep 16 10:32 |
| oiaohm | Yes when running windows. | Sep 16 10:32 |
| MinceR | if a server board is running windows, You're Doing It Wrong | Sep 16 10:33 |
| cubevector | I think some Suns had no video at all | Sep 16 10:33 |
| oiaohm | Hardware TCL Vertex Shaders Don't exist in RS690 | Sep 16 10:33 |
| cubevector | you just ssh into them | Sep 16 10:33 |
| cubevector | "A headless server generally lacks a monitor, keyboard, or mouse" | Sep 16 10:34 |
| cubevector | couldn't you run win2k headless? | Sep 16 10:35 |
| MinceR | probably not | Sep 16 10:35 |
| MinceR | "server" windows goes "oh no, there's no monitor! what sort of computer is this?!" | Sep 16 10:35 |
| MinceR | with the gui running in the kernel, of course | Sep 16 10:35 |
| MinceR | seriously, running windows on servers is a joke | Sep 16 10:35 |
| cubevector | I'm not sure if headless means no video card though | Sep 16 10:36 |
| MinceR | might as well wire up an impulse generator to the reset button connector on the mainboard | Sep 16 10:36 |
| oiaohm | Who said you need a monitor on video card | Sep 16 10:36 |
| MinceR | what would i need a video card for, if not a monitor or GPGPU? | Sep 16 10:36 |
| oiaohm | RS690 on Dells commonly provide a vnc | Sep 16 10:37 |
| oiaohm | On a ip address to control the server | Sep 16 10:37 |
| MinceR | dhell inb a server room sounds like another joke to me | Sep 16 10:37 |
| MinceR | s/inb/in/ | Sep 16 10:37 |
| cubevector | I think that's a BIOS issue, if you can run without any video card at all | Sep 16 10:37 |
| oiaohm | Its one of the RS690 common mods | Sep 16 10:37 |
| oiaohm | Keyboard mouse and screen over IP | Sep 16 10:37 |
| MinceR | serial consoles work over IP as well | Sep 16 10:38 |
| MinceR | and they're less bloated | Sep 16 10:38 |
| oiaohm | Bios run | Sep 16 10:38 |
| oiaohm | to be correct video card run | Sep 16 10:38 |
| oiaohm | So computer can be complete shot and you can see it. | Sep 16 10:38 |
| cubevector | yeah how would you set the bios without a video card? :) | Sep 16 10:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 16 10:38 |
| MinceR | "look, this computer is completely shot." | Sep 16 10:38 |
| MinceR | "duh, it's a dhell running winblows" | Sep 16 10:39 |
| oiaohm | HP and IBM also have RS690 in some hardware | Sep 16 10:39 |
| *MinceR wonders what's the equivalent of RoadReady(tm) in the server room | Sep 16 10:39 | |
| MinceR | one stray movement of air breaks the server in half? | Sep 16 10:39 |
| oiaohm | Again depends on the server room. | Sep 16 10:40 |
| oiaohm | Some server rooms don't run hot | Sep 16 10:40 |
| MinceR | my dhell craptop which was supposed to be "RoadReady(tm)" which means it supposedly withstands even extreme use fell apart in 2 years, both the case and the keyboard | Sep 16 10:40 |
| MinceR | and they refused to fix the latter | Sep 16 10:41 |
| MinceR | at that standard of quality i wonder what their "servers" do | Sep 16 10:41 |
| cubevector | ok, time for you to buy a toughbook, with Mil spec :) | Sep 16 10:41 |
| cubevector | not dell | Sep 16 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: its not a panasonic toughbook, so who cares | Sep 16 10:41 |
| MinceR | maybe they just catch fire like crApple products | Sep 16 10:41 |
| cubevector | see, the name craptop gives it away :) | Sep 16 10:41 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: it doesn't have to be a toughbook to withstand having the lid opened/closed and the unit carried | Sep 16 10:41 |
| MinceR | it just needs to be a laptop | Sep 16 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yeah, it pretty much does | Sep 16 10:41 |
| MinceR | cubevector: well, it's made of crap so i call it a craptop | Sep 16 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | everyone else's shit is designed to fail | Sep 16 10:42 |
| oiaohm | Dell laptops are not the best. | Sep 16 10:42 |
| MinceR | plastic doesn't break as easily as that crap | Sep 16 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: they make toughbooks that arent 100% ruggidized | Sep 16 10:42 |
| oiaohm | Dell servers hardware wise are not bad. | Sep 16 10:42 |
| cubevector | semi-rugged, yeah | Sep 16 10:42 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: for now, i'm settling for a ThinkPad | Sep 16 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | thinkpad kinda sucks now | Sep 16 10:42 |
| oiaohm | Other than the fact if you don't watch it you can order a rackmount dell that only fits in dell racks. | Sep 16 10:42 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: i'll see. :) | Sep 16 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | you'll never see one like the t4xp series | Sep 16 10:43 |
| MinceR | mine is less than 1 year old | Sep 16 10:43 |
| MinceR | so it's hard to say what's gonna happen | Sep 16 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | sure, they're better than dell and hp/compaq | Sep 16 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they're not the best | Sep 16 10:43 |
| MinceR | afaict toughbooks are heavy as fuck and weak | Sep 16 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | weak? no | Sep 16 10:44 |
| MinceR | of course if i needed a truly rugged laptop i'd seriously consider them | Sep 16 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | and only the fully rugged ones are heavy | Sep 16 10:44 |
| MinceR | those are the only ones i've seen so far, so i'm probably not fully informed | Sep 16 10:44 |
| MinceR | but if it's not fully rugged, how do you know if it's rugged enough, compared to other non-dhell laptops? | Sep 16 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/toughbook-products.asp | Sep 16 10:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rugged Laptop Products - Panasonic Toughbook Rugged Computer Products .::. Size~: 34.13 KB | Sep 16 10:45 |
| MinceR | i'm not throwing or kicking it around anyway, just carrying it and using them mostly indoors :> | Sep 16 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: they make ones that are half rugged | Sep 16 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they make ones that "arent" at all, and look normal | Sep 16 10:45 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 16 10:45 |
| *kickback has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 16 10:47 | |
| Diablo-D3 | well "normal" | Sep 16 10:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Risto H. Kurppa's first experiences with !Diaspora http://goo.gl/eTXs | Sep 16 10:47 | |
| Diablo-D3 | they're not annorexic as hell | Sep 16 10:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Diaspora first experiences | Risto H. Kurppa .::. Size~: 39.36 KB | Sep 16 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, you know why I'd never own an apple airbook? | Sep 16 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im afraid of accidently snapping it in half | Sep 16 10:47 |
| MinceR | because it's shit, all through? | Sep 16 10:47 |
| MinceR | crApple hardware that ships with crApple software | Sep 16 10:48 |
| MinceR | one USB port, no ethernet ports | Sep 16 10:48 |
| MinceR | shit like that | Sep 16 10:48 |
| oiaohm | http://www.roda-computer.com/en/products/notebooks/rocky-rf8.html << I guess this class is what you are looking for MinceR | Sep 16 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: roda computer GmbH: Rocky RF8 .::. Size~: 15.13 KB | Sep 16 10:48 |
| MinceR | not really :) | Sep 16 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: dude, its too thin to have an ethernet port | Sep 16 10:49 |
| MinceR | like i said, i don't kick/throw my laptops around or use them in sand | Sep 16 10:49 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: well then it shouldn't be so thin | Sep 16 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | except thats what it is | Sep 16 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | thin | Sep 16 10:49 |
| MinceR | "here's the new MacBook Air2! *hands you a sheet of paper with a crApple logo on it* " | Sep 16 10:49 |
| MinceR | "but it has no keyboard, no screen, no CPU, no memory, no nothing!" | Sep 16 10:50 |
| MinceR | "well, it's thin so none of those things fit. enjoy." | Sep 16 10:50 |
| MinceR | (though i'm sure that would be a hit in the cult) | Sep 16 10:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 16/9/2010: Compiz 0.9.2, 64-bit Adobe Trash GNU/Linux Support, PlayOnLinux 3.8.1, Diaspora Public http://ur1.ca/1n4b8 | Sep 16 10:50 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | heh | Sep 16 10:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: whoa, that thing is 5.8 kg heavy | Sep 16 10:51 |
| MinceR | my ThinkPad is 4 kg and it's heavy as hell :) | Sep 16 10:51 |
| MinceR | W700 | Sep 16 10:51 |
| oiaohm | and most of the extra weight is case. MinceR | Sep 16 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | wtf why is that shit so heavy | Sep 16 10:51 |
| MinceR | i know | Sep 16 10:51 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: it's bigger than most 17" laptops | Sep 16 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean jesus | Sep 16 10:52 |
| oiaohm | You can basically drive a nail in with the case and not bend it at all. Diablo-D3 | Sep 16 10:52 |
| MinceR | big frame, big display, two HDD bays, stuff like that | Sep 16 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | we might as well get the toughbook 31 | Sep 16 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | 8 pound | Sep 16 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | *s | Sep 16 10:52 |
| oiaohm | They serouslly make good hammer when they are busted. | Sep 16 10:52 |
| MinceR | i doubt that they're shaped for convenient use as hammer | Sep 16 10:53 |
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| cubevector | your looking at over 3 grand for a new rugged toughbook | Sep 16 10:53 |
| cubevector | some of the military grade stuff don't even mention the price | Sep 16 10:53 |
| MinceR | i would have settled for a W500 (15" or so) but they didn't ship any of those with powerful nvidia GPUs (only Quadro NVS) | Sep 16 10:54 |
| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIL-STD-810 Mind you that laptop is light end mill grade. | Sep 16 10:54 |
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| Diablo-D3 | he needs something like an F9 | Sep 16 10:54 |
| oiaohm | There are ones out there that pass all of the MIL-STD-810 | Sep 16 10:54 |
| oiaohm | But I not sure you would call them laptops | Sep 16 10:55 |
| oiaohm | they are more labtops | Sep 16 10:55 |
| oiaohm | There is no way you would use them without a desk. | Sep 16 10:55 |
| MinceR | a lapdesk? :> | Sep 16 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | a desktop. | Sep 16 10:55 |
| oiaohm | The ones that pass every test MIL-STD-810 are like a port/transport case | Sep 16 10:55 |
| oiaohm | And weigh between 20 to 30 kgs | Sep 16 10:56 |
| cubevector | how much do they cost? | Sep 16 10:56 |
| oiaohm | Without internals. | Sep 16 10:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubevector: thousands | Sep 16 10:56 |
| oiaohm | Ie you have to be strong in the first place to carry them. | Sep 16 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Microsoft criticizes Brazilian government's position about !freesoftware http://ow.ly/2F6Cr | Sep 16 10:57 | |
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| oiaohm | Ones that pass all of MIL-STD-810 the most expensive part is the case. | Sep 16 10:57 |
| oiaohm | That can be between 10 to 12 thousand. | Sep 16 10:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes thinking one test is droping from 10 000 feet without any slow down and what is inside still has to work. | Sep 16 10:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 16 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | anyhow | Sep 16 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I think your best option is the f9 | Sep 16 10:58 |
| cubevector | that's a bit over the top | Sep 16 10:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Bringing D-Bus Into The Linux Kernel: Alban Crequy, a Maemo developer, for the past several weeks have been workin... http://bit.ly/bTTRnt | Sep 16 10:59 | |
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| oiaohm | That is why there are different levels of Mil grade laptops. cubevector | Sep 16 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Sometimes over the top is required. | Sep 16 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | its only $3k ;) | Sep 16 10:59 |
| cubevector | what did they do, put a parachute on it? :) | Sep 16 11:00 |
| MinceR | i'd like to think that any level of "rugged" is a bit over the top for me right now | Sep 16 11:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Let’s Make Women Outreach a GNOME-wide Effort! http://ping.fm/bnBUQ | Sep 16 11:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @nistor: Software freedom Day - RMS: http://ur1.ca/1mzq4 !moldova !gnewsense | Sep 16 11:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fsfe: #pdfreaders' campaign page available in 7 languages, petition in 8 languages : translators, thank you very much for your efforts ! | Sep 16 11:00 | |
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| oiaohm | take aircraft to 10 000 feet open back door and throw it out without parachute above a target zone. cubevector | Sep 16 11:01 |
| MinceR | besides, the F9 has no high-end GPU | Sep 16 11:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | the 52 does. | Sep 16 11:01 |
| oiaohm | In mill operations they might put a parachute on it so they can drop it higher. cubevector | Sep 16 11:01 |
| oiaohm | Yes in theory you could be killed on a battle field by a falling comptuer. | Sep 16 11:01 |
| MinceR | does the 10000' test allow the parachute or is that an extra add-on? | Sep 16 11:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Diaspora fail http://ping.fm/midav | Sep 16 11:02 | |
| oiaohm | 10 000 is without parachute | Sep 16 11:02 |
| MinceR | the 52 only ships with ati | Sep 16 11:02 |
| MinceR | (and intel) | Sep 16 11:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont think panasonic has any nvidia options | Sep 16 11:03 |
| oiaohm | But in combat to reduce risk to people on ground parachute is added MinceR | Sep 16 11:03 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 16 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | nvidia doesnt survive rugged applications | Sep 16 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | chips too shitty | Sep 16 11:03 |
| MinceR | says the ati fanboy | Sep 16 11:03 |
| oiaohm | Ie if parachute fails incoming com link will live basically MinceR | Sep 16 11:03 |
| MinceR | bbl, lunch | Sep 16 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, says the guy who remembers chips failing due to thermal seperation | Sep 16 11:03 |
| oiaohm | Just might take some digging. | Sep 16 11:03 |
| cubevector | my 17-year old ati chips still work | Sep 16 11:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Diaspora fail http://ping.fm/midav !joindiaspora | Sep 16 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ‘Most protection against socially engineered malware ✔’ #huh #ie9fudlist | Sep 16 11:04 | |
| oiaohm | Record for one hitting ground in being about 80 cms into the ground. MinceR | Sep 16 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Hit some soft earth. | Sep 16 11:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Full Lobbyists Lineup From Association for Competitive Technology http://ur1.ca/1n4g1 #lobbying #igf #microsoft #monopoly | Sep 16 11:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sarah Palin Revisited: Why Terms of Use Shouldn't Be Enforced Through Computer Crime Law http://ping.fm/VYTmG | Sep 16 11:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] IE9 Beta has hw acceleration. So do betas of Firefox & Chrome. So how come they get no ticks? Cherry-picked release windows #ie9fudlist | Sep 16 11:09 | |
| oiaohm | http://store.makerbot.com/cupcake-cnc/automated-build-platform/automated-build-platform.html Interesting break threw for open 3d printing. | Sep 16 11:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] If you want to claim MS wrote page weeks ago, should have updated it before launch. Mozilla has been blogging about this for months… | Sep 16 11:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oracle product manager speaks about !Java future, fails to answer question about why Oracle hates Google/Apache/FSF http://ur1.ca/1n4ia | Sep 16 11:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 10 Years Ago: The Anarchist Cookbook - Boing Boing http://ow.ly/2F738 | Sep 16 11:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My wife picked this up the other day. I wonder if I can install Mint Debian on it? http://ping.fm/nINJt | Sep 16 11:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] Help @maymaym recover from getting mugged on the street in #SF. His laptop and bag was stolen. Help him out: http://ur1.ca/1mqz0 | Sep 16 11:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @nistor: Software freedom Day - RMS: http://ur1.ca/1mzq4 | Sep 16 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @silner: #Microsoft criticizes Brazilian government's position about #freesoftware http://ow.ly/2F6Cr | Sep 16 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @silner yes. That's a good way of getting attention ;-) | Sep 16 11:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Full Lobbyists Lineup From Association for Competitive Technology http://ur1.ca/1n4g1 #lobbying #igf #microsoft #monopoly | Sep 16 11:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Linux _GLOBAL_ market share is not 1%. Microsoft would have people believe it has 10% in search (US only), not 2-3% (GLOBAL) | Sep 16 11:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: http://ur1.ca/1n3jx "This seemed pertinent, in light of the recent stories debating Linux desktop market share" --LinuxToday | Sep 16 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Doing 2x with 10x hardware is hardly SW innovation. as @stormy said we've in our pockets more than comp. pwr used to send man to the Moon | Sep 16 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle sticks to Sun's open source strategy for Java - The H http://ping.fm/IOmzM | Sep 16 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @caostheory: Carlo Daffara discusses strategy, tactics, and why companies are free to not contribute. http://bit.ly/9JPzHc | Sep 16 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] My !diaspora testing address: pieter@openspora.com - Still very unstable but I like the idea. | Sep 16 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I think the thinking on what it meant to be !FaiF was so muddled when those licenses were written that it is hard to say for sure. | Sep 16 11:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] I've recently started having some mild pains on my left-hand wrist. Am I getting #RSI from !Emacs maybe? http://bit.ly/clZ0Es | Sep 16 11:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @faither #Microsoft comparing IE9 to !Chrome and !Firefox (feature wise) makes me want to facepalm so hard... http://is.gd/fdaDE | Sep 16 11:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ‘.face has invalid extension. Only jpg, jpeg, png are allowed.’ erp, it *is* a PNG. #diaspora #fail | Sep 16 11:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @pietercolpaert Yeah, I didn't really understand some of the criticisms made there, but I'm glad it's getting attention | Sep 16 12:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Will Sell More Debt, Buy Back Its Stock http://ur1.ca/1n4xx #debt #stock #borrowing #tax | Sep 16 12:04 | |
| MinceR | re | Sep 16 12:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] pivots.joindiaspora.com/people?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=&commit=search … someone thinks they are smart #unicode | Sep 16 12:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] obviously #diaspora has potential, but for all the eyes it has on it… needs more functionality. fearful that users will peek too early. | Sep 16 12:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] did #diaspora plan to run on anything other than OS X boxes at home? ‘Ruby - (We're using 1.8.7. It comes preinstalled on Mac OS X.)’ | Sep 16 12:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] Ruby, that well known installed-by-default LAMP language. | Sep 16 12:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Latest #Novell News is Important http://ur1.ca/1n4sz Rebuttal to @DanaBlankenhorn and expansion on an important point re !Linux #FUD | Sep 16 12:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @sanjayankur !fedora flash 64 bit rpm http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1119587&postcount=1 | Sep 16 12:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] discussing the word "logorrhoea" with a British guy. Funny he finds it (or my use of it) funny. @andyc should like it though :-P | Sep 16 12:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @karsten: Vint Cerf: clouds should interoperate & all devices should be equal #IGF < the man is (still) a genius. | Sep 16 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft 'Pulls a Russia' in #Brazil http://ur1.ca/1n5fc Microsoft takes additional steps to crack down on adoption of !GNU !Linux | Sep 16 12:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] American crisis, which started back in 2007, is charging its toll: Many software companies facing hardships. Mandriva and now Novell | Sep 16 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] metrics are the only way to monitor your progress or professional level... | Sep 16 12:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] ... but how is lines of code, score on a it exam or amount of reported bugs a Key Performance Indicator! | Sep 16 12:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft ‘Pulls a Russia’ in Brazil http://ur1.ca/1n5fc #Microsoft takes additional steps to crack down on adoption of !GNU !Linux | Sep 16 12:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [BBC's] Project Canvas rebrands as YouView - The Guardian http://ping.fm/GsTYF | Sep 16 13:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I'm always glad to see less #Open_Core potential in the world, although I hadn't heard of #FreeIPA until I saw this dent of yours. | Sep 16 13:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @j1mc @greg I find it a bit odd that a group of people advocating open web services is using github instead of gitorious for their pr ... | Sep 16 13:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] en route to RDU | Sep 16 13:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana @j1mc, calling !FaiF #netservices projects using #github "odd" is being polite. "Hypocritical" is the blunt, appropriate adjective. | Sep 16 13:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] @bkuhn can you give examples? | Sep 16 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @serk01, the conversation in question is about @joindiaspora, which purports to support #netservices freedom but uses #github. #Diaspora | Sep 16 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] @bkuhn Benn asking the same question myself for some people who claim to support FaiF but have an account on twitter instead of identi.ca. | Sep 16 13:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @serk01,IMO pushing through notices *from* identica to Twitter is a tough choice, but favoring Twitter works against #netservices freedom. | Sep 16 13:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Linux -powered #Android Attacked by Skyhook #Patents and Evidence Increases That “ #swpats Should Be Abolished” http://ur1.ca/1n5o5 | Sep 16 13:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] @bkuhn Not to mention websites that are supposed to be about !FaiF software and have proprietary software ads | Sep 16 13:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] It seems that @joindiaspora chose !AGPLv3 -only (not -or-later) for #Diaspora code. I cannot find documented their reasons why. #Curious... | Sep 16 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @faconti: Porque a Microsoft erra ao continuar criticando o uso do software Open Source - http://bit.ly/a8oBab #ms #softwarelivre | Sep 16 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: What's your big idea for EU's Digital Agenda? Provide it here: http://bit.ly/cv6TXz Best ideas progressed... | Sep 16 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] #diaspora #fail for me: rake aborted! failed to connect to any given host:port | Sep 16 13:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] @bkuhn: I read the opposite "either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any later version." http://is.gd/fdi0g | Sep 16 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Most important thing people can do about #Diaspora given code is released is submit patches clearly under their *own* © as !AGPLv3 -or-later | Sep 16 13:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @royhugo, I don't know where you're reading that. Regardless,source files on git master branch say "Affero General Public License version 3" | Sep 16 13:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I'd submit patches immediately to #Diaspora myself to help prevent #Open_Core, but my limited #Ruby knowledge holds me back;I hope others do | Sep 16 13:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner as Coleyra says, "I don’t see any fail there…" - let's not generalise with "fail" and help #Diaspora instead | Sep 16 13:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @rsandu Thanks! | Sep 16 13:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johndrinkwater IE9 Beta has hw acceleration. So do betas of Firefox & Chrome. So how come they get no ticks? Cherry-picked release... | Sep 16 13:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft cannot ever keep comparative analyses objective. To them, "objective" means "serving our objectives" | Sep 16 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] GNU/Linux -powered #Android Attacked by Skyhook #Patents and Evidence Increases That “ #swpats Should Be Abolished” http://ur1.ca/1n5o5 | Sep 16 13:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Microsoft did sponsor the benchmark testing and the NT server was better tuned than the Linux one." --Microsoft South Africa | Sep 16 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner Sarah Palin Revisited: Why Terms of Use Shouldn't Be Enforced Through Computer Crime Law http://ping.fm/VYTmG | Sep 16 13:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johndrinkwater If you want to claim MS wrote page weeks ago, should have updated it before launch. #ie9fudlist | Sep 16 13:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @ruiseabra you seem to implying that we don't use IIS? Well, you're right... actually, a lot of FSF websites are hosted on iPads. | Sep 16 13:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pietercolpaert ignore the "fail" troll (also provoking FSF before) | Sep 16 13:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn: I believe that by submitting patches you can prevent dual licensing, not #open_core (endless are the additions to a project) | Sep 16 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @bkuhn I recently reopened my Twitter account, just to communicate with the few people I know who are active, but who won't use Identi.ca | Sep 16 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @johndrinkwater it's a "test", not "fail". Help improve it, not bash it. #diaspora | Sep 16 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Microsoft "attacks" #Brazil and #Russia http://techrights.org/2010/09/16/microsoft-latin-america-vs-freedom-sw/ | Sep 16 13:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @maslett: Oracle will work with OpenJDK code base and community like Sun did. http://bit.ly/9P1Gwc Is that a promise or a threat?< :-D | Sep 16 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I looked at #Diaspora site a few hours ago. My impression? They way oversold what they are doing. Setting themselves up for hard-core flop. | Sep 16 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] GROUND LAB talks about practical prototyping, open source, and the history of technological development http://bit.ly/b3tj8q #unicef #ngo | Sep 16 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] AMD Catalyst 10.9 For Linux Released: AMD has just released their monthly proprietary Linux driver update, which t... http://bit.ly/cHc9K6 | Sep 16 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The big shocking event could be Oktoberfest ;-) | Sep 16 13:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, depends on how your define #Open_Core. It has no agreed-upon dfn. I'm using dfn I suggested 11 months ago: http://ur1.ca/dt7t | Sep 16 13:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @prcutler Is the Canonical marketing effort to show how much their employees love their jobs and contribute to free software over yet? | Sep 16 13:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman’s Introduction to Software Freedom Day http://ur1.ca/1n637 #SoftwareFreedomDay !fsf !gnu | Sep 16 14:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @prcutler Is the Canonical marketing effort to show how much their employees love their jobs and contribute to free software over yet? | Sep 16 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn: a Good definition, and I remember well that essay ;-) However, every set is a subset of a wider set, that was my objection. | Sep 16 14:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cardinal Kasper reveals the Vatican's true beliefs - http://bit.ly/cVn7gJ "Catholic church as defender of European identity against Islam" | Sep 16 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @schestowitz no, it’s a fail, call that a bug report. Slightly humorous you suggesting to not bash things ;) | Sep 16 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Confessions Of A Convicted RIAA Victim Joel Tenenbaum - http://bit.ly/cDi0xz "What I’m saying is that file-sharing is." interesting #sharing | Sep 16 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: GMailWatcher for webmail lovers http://goo.gl/I21n | Sep 16 14:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Confessions Of A Convicted RIAA Victim Joel Tenenbaum | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 44.83 KB | Sep 16 14:17 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: #Firefox 4 ditching status bar? http://goo.gl/hvpT | Sep 16 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ODF and #OOO (+variants) have good news in Japan this week http://ur1.ca/1n6az http://ur1.ca/1n6b3 | Sep 16 14:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Mozilla fixes startup bug, Firefox auto-updates are go! http://ur1.ca/1n6cc | Sep 16 14:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @mohanpram Mozilla fixes startup bug, Firefox auto-updates are go! http://ur1.ca/1n6cc | Sep 16 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU liberals join Sarkozysts in online repression - http://bit.ly/b72XPT this is about freedom: why are the #Liberals so clueless? #gallo | Sep 16 14:24 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU liberals join Sarkozysts in online repression | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 26.47 KB | Sep 16 14:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @johndrinkwater heh. Well, it depends if it's something which is trying to help us without success or trying to hurt | Sep 16 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Newbie In X; Creating X.Org Documentation: Matt Dew, a self-proclaimed "X newbie", just finished talking about h... http://bit.ly/bxqcMK | Sep 16 14:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU breakthrough on lobby register - http://bit.ly/9srDqv voluntary lobby register may be renamed "transparency register": hardly progress | Sep 16 14:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lnxwalt140 RT @mohanpram Mozilla fixes startup bug, Firefox auto-updates are go! http://ur1.ca/1n6cc | Sep 16 14:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Human Connectome Project - http://bit.ly/chlmXD v. cool: data, workflows, derived data and visualizations available "to freely download" | Sep 16 14:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @pgralla: Why Internet Explorer 9 needs to run on Android http://bit.ly/cJF7Nk #android | Sep 16 14:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: ODF and #OOO (+variants) have good news in Japan this week http://ur1.ca/1n6az http://ur1.ca/1n6b3 | Sep 16 14:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @schestowitz I know :) i’m snarky because Firefox returns File.type = '' and site assumes it means not Image, when it means unknown. | Sep 16 14:40 | |
| schestowitz | preston gralla: fill Linux with Windows apps | Sep 16 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Haha. IE for Linux... he's wish, that Microsoft booster... | Sep 16 14:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @schestowitz obviously filed a bug with Firefox to suggest they mime detect for unknown. Other workaround being site uses FileReader #hack | Sep 16 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000003492 | Sep 16 14:45 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "HIGH CLASS ADDICTION" http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000003494 #cartoon #tax | Sep 16 14:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Diaspora source released http://lwn.net/Articles/405653/rss | Sep 16 14:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] @bkuhn: at the end of the link i gave you, http://is.gd/fdi0g | Sep 16 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IE9 has Google Chrome on the run (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/9JPU6B | Sep 16 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @royhugo, that looks to me like the license of the document displayed on that page. As I said, source code doesn't say that! #UTSL! | Sep 16 14:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: diaspora's diaspora at master - GitHub .::. Size~: 47.94 KB | Sep 16 14:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Entire US-Mexico border to be guarded by Predator Drones: Europe to follow suit? - http://bit.ly/aTpDzU dangerously commonplace #security | Sep 16 14:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @schestowitz: @NeelieKroesEU please open a mirror account in identi.ca so that Open Source/Free software proponents can follow you? | Sep 16 14:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @caostheory The SCO Group has announced that its Unix assets are now up for auction. http://bit.ly/8YYViB >>this worries me #unix #sco | Sep 16 14:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz Yeah I don't see is as a serious issue. In fact as @pietercolpaert was saying it may be agood way of getting more attention :) | Sep 16 14:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz I hope #Diaspora takes off & I'm confident it will actually, at least to the extent of being viable !joindiaspora | Sep 16 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @glynmoody: Entire US-Mexico border to be guarded by Predator Drones: Europe to follow suit? - http://bit.ly/aTpDzU #security | Sep 16 14:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @glynmoody The SCO Group has announced that its Unix assets are now up for auction. http://bit.ly/8YYViB >> this worries me #unix #sco | Sep 16 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner statusnet did well with identica (VC), let's hope diaspora achieves that too | Sep 16 15:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody what you fear, that they end up to a troll, sorry, to a litigation firm? As if they weren't already? ;-) | Sep 16 15:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @evan, I meant it in the hacker sense. This is why I try not to say #evil. I really mean #disturbing. (see past conversations of this sort) | Sep 16 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Linville on #brcm80211 "[..]treated for eye cancer[..]" Later "My glib statement [..] caused a little heartburn[..]" http://bit.ly/dbLd0L | Sep 16 15:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mă opun actualei Legi a Pensiilor, dar sunt ferm împotriva tratării diferențiate a militarilor, serviciilor secrete și altor organe de forță | Sep 16 15:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Recapping The New X.Org Development Process: Scheduling issues had plagued X.Org Server development for the past f... http://bit.ly/cN4kal | Sep 16 15:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @karsten: Poked Microsoft's in #IGF Open Standards session enough to get clear statement from him: "Open Standards = RAND & FRAND, not RF" | Sep 16 15:17 | |
| schestowitz | Project Management: Apollo, Fengoffice, Projectpier, Basecamp... and the world changed http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/project_management_apollo_fengoffice_projectpier_basecamp_and_world_changed "Goo" was renamed and went proprietary on the face of it | Sep 16 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.fengoffice.com/web/ | Sep 16 15:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Diaspora source code released: http://www.joindiaspora.com/2010/09/15/developer-release.html | Sep 16 15:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Podcast episode 17 is here! And it includes the results of our ‘build your own game’ challenge: http://bit.ly/aHj0yP | Sep 16 15:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linus Torvalds becomes an American citizen (NetworkWorld) http://bit.ly/9DhzgZ | Sep 16 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "Do Open Educational Resources Increase Efficiency?" http://bit.ly/ci81en now in French http://bit.ly/aHHRCX #OER | Sep 16 15:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @glynmoody Regarding European Roma immigrants and US-Mexico drones, I strongly support "sarkozysts" :-) | Sep 16 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Exposing War Crimes is NOT a Crime! http://ur1.ca/1n70j #savebradley #wikileaks | Sep 16 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I note that the TV licence itself as a mandatory tax that hits the poor hardest isn't up for a rethink, just a freeze http://bbc.in/aG7wIY | Sep 16 15:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Podcast episode 17 is here! And it includes the results of our 'build your own game' challenge: http://bit.ly/9XptNn | Sep 16 15:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yea Wired Magazine is Dead! http://ur1.ca/1n720 "Not the Internet but rather Wired Magazine is DEAD. RIP." | Sep 16 15:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Call me cynical, but the freeze is about brownie points to be cashed in on the next settlement negotiations in 2yrs, big increase time !BBC | Sep 16 15:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] When times are tough you cut back on subscriptions to entertainment services, but still have to pay the !BBC, whether you watch or not | Sep 16 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @bkuhn You know I wonder if the real problem was Facebook founders started with no moral stance and they just drifted into venality? | Sep 16 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Anyone else thinking !IE9 having access to the GPU will only end in tears? Given MS's track record of security http://bbc.in/9A12wN | Sep 16 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://ur1.ca/1n73z "The 60 Plus Association, a pharmaceutical industry front [...] operates counter to elderly citizens' best interests." | Sep 16 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @bkuhn But I suppose then you'd have to question why they didn't realise and change course | Sep 16 15:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh, joyous day! #diaspora preview released! has anybody triedto run !diaspora (besides the devs, obviously ;) )? !fs !linux !gnu | Sep 16 15:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There seems to be no easy way to make AIR apps spellcheck in British English on Windows. That's odd - it's localised on Linux - hhmmm... | Sep 16 15:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] People complaining that IE9 won't work on XP are missing the point, MS already provided the fix, !Win7 You're supposed to buy a new licence | Sep 16 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @silner, I think financial success early in life is deeply dangerous, as it inspires a certain arrogance that's hard to overcome. #FaceBook | Sep 16 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Felten: Understanding the HDCP Master Key Leak http://lwn.net/Articles/405683/rss | Sep 16 15:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @guachafita: "Some subjects are so serious that one can only joke about them." Niels Bohr #q | Sep 16 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Niels Kjøller Hansen: !Diaspora, Dependencies and the Devil http://goo.gl/Q6pD | Sep 16 15:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: kjoller.eu | Blog | Diaspora, Dependencies and the Devil .::. Size~: 6.5 KB | Sep 16 15:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tuxradar broken link | Sep 16 16:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @piracy Exposing War Crimes is NOT a Crime! http://ur1.ca/1n70j #savebradley #wikileaks | Sep 16 16:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb it's a Windows-only feature, the English press assumes everyone uses Windows. DirectX has many problems. #DirectHacks #security | Sep 16 16:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] When will pino in #F13 get an update so it can login to twitter again? | Sep 16 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @bkuhn ergo “I think he [Bill Gates] has a Napoleonic concept of himself and his company, an arrogance..." -- Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson | Sep 16 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @Herring1967: Let he who hasn't covered up a massive paedophile sex ring cast the first stone. #leavethepopealone | Sep 16 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz Yeah I spotted the agenda to drag it kicking and screaming back to MS-only lock in "features" !IE6-all-over-again | Sep 16 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] New Rule: if your distributed social network will create more spambots, I'm going to defend Zuckerberg myself… | Sep 16 16:09 | |
| schestowitz | " Thanks for remembering us of the great Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson #microsoft #antitrust" http://identi.ca/conversation/50369084#notice-50786553 | Sep 16 16:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Arnd Bergmann: Remaining BKL users, what to do http://bit.ly/aC41ts | Sep 16 16:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Export farming mismanagement http://ur1.ca/1n7qb | Sep 16 16:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Weird nightmares: NOVL gets split up, VMWare takes SUSE and SCO buys the UNIX (c) to continue its "fight" #ouch | Sep 16 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So who is working on RPMs for #diaspora on #Fedora? :-) | Sep 16 16:27 | |
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| gnufreex | http://www.benzinga.com/analyst-ratings/analyst-color/10/09/476801/red-hat-to-acquire-novell | Sep 16 16:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Huge fish kill – a common sight in Louisiana - http://bit.ly/cIkvoq er, mightn't we be doing something wrong here...? #environment | Sep 16 16:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: Who cares about #twitter and fake security provided by #oauth in applications ? I don't! | Sep 16 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Weird nightmares: NOVL gets split up, VMWare takes SUSE and SCO buys the UNIX (c) to continue its "fight" #ouch | Sep 16 16:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @corq: RT @PrivacyLaw: “One Less Privacy Intrusion: Bill to End Pre-Employment Credit Checks” http://bit.ly/bEbkxK | Sep 16 16:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @piracy Exposing War Crimes is NOT a Crime! http://ur1.ca/1n70j #savebradley #wikileaks | Sep 16 16:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @bkuhn good think @joindiaspora chose github so you still don't have to say anything nice about them after the code release! #phew | Sep 16 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And now Adobe ships Flash for 64 bit Linux again after telling the world it will not happen. http://is.gd/fdw3o | Sep 16 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @deadsuperhero: After playing with [#Diaspora] over on #OpenSpora, I'd have to say it's *extremely* promising | Sep 16 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxjournal: OpenOffice.org: Interactions Between Programs http://ht.ly/19245H | Sep 16 16:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @reality New blog post: Some more Diaspora screenshots - http://bit.ly/9y4CEt | Sep 16 16:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer: or ORCL buys Suse and both SCO and UNIX(c) go to MSFT (oh, wait a minute, isn't SCO already MSFT's)? :-P | Sep 16 16:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] BTW, I almost entirely miss the point of Diaspora, exactly as I miss the point of Facebook. | Sep 16 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana: Isn't the point to have lots of stupid farm games and such? | Sep 16 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think it is appropriate to hold @joindiaspora to a high standard because they took monetary donations from many people #Disapora | Sep 16 17:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn that doesn't help answer the question of how to treat that code today | Sep 16 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think it is appropriate to hold @joindiaspora to a high standard because they took monetary donations from many people #Diaspora | Sep 16 17:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @fontana @bkuhn I think it is appropriate to hold @joindiaspora to a high standard because they took monetary donations from many peo ... | Sep 16 17:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] konqi joins supertuxkart! :) http://supertuxkart.blogspot.com/2010/09/zipping-along.html | Sep 16 17:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NPR API Architect Headed to Netflix (Programmable Web) http://bit.ly/dfyiBd (via @techmeme) | Sep 16 17:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] zagge, kpresenter maintainer, just announced on koffice-devel@ that he'll be working on KOffice @ Nokia starting Oct 1! | Sep 16 17:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OAuth 2.0 (without Signatures) is Bad for the Web « hueniverse http://bit.ly/95FG4i | Sep 16 17:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] See no evil http://ur1.ca/1n88r | Sep 16 17:24 | |
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| puzzled | hi | Sep 16 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] If you've been wondering where opensource.org has gone, there's been a serious disk failure and it's taking a long time to get it fixed. | Sep 16 17:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Understanding HDCP Master Key Leak - http://bit.ly/9AzbNN "less a security system than a tool for shaping the consumer electronics market" | Sep 16 17:30 | |
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| puzzled | fyi: just bumped into a blog posting from a Zeitgeist developer. Note the comment from Philip van H (iirc the sparkleshare developer) to integrate the Maemo version of Zeigeist "deeply" with tracker. Seems the mono fanboys are trying to push mono everywhere they possibly can: http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/09/zeitgeist-and-activity-journal-for-maemo/ | Sep 16 17:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Tea Party Movement: Open-Source Politics - http://bit.ly/9uH00J interesting, provocative thought #opensource #politics #teaparty | Sep 16 17:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Understanding HDCP Master Key Leak - http://bit.ly/9AzbNN "less a security system than a tool for shaping the consumer ele ... | Sep 16 17:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If Microsoft is serious about Silverlight, it needs to do Linux - http://bit.ly/bVSINy good analysis of why YouView's Linux basis matters | Sep 16 17:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK national assessment of preparedness for climate disruption says action needed now - http://bit.ly/aB6BdZ getting serious #climatechange | Sep 16 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Novell's SUSE Linux biz is not profitable and cannot be made easily so" http://is.gd/fdABV | Sep 16 17:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If you are interested in a site that takes a critical and knowledgeable look at the world financial system look here http://is.gd/fdAIp | Sep 16 17:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] SCO puts Unix assets on the block - Computerworld http://bit.ly/dc7UV3 | Sep 16 17:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "There are 10 kinds of people in the World...Those who understand !binary, and those who don't!" (RD @Stav) | Sep 16 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] oh sure, LinuxCon comes to Vancouver 5 months after i move away. gah! | Sep 16 17:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM announces process for power management (EE Times) http://bit.ly/bbTHDT | Sep 16 17:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Cuban lays off state workers to encourage entrepreneurship http://ur1.ca/1n8ug | Sep 16 18:24 | |
| gnufreex | schstowitz: Nice post about SUSE buyout. I read it just now. | Sep 16 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @j1mc @greg I find it a bit odd that a group of people advocating open web services is using github instead of gitorious for their pr ... | Sep 16 18:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OAuth and OAuth WRAP [OAUTH 2.0]: defeating the password anti-pattern (ars, Jan) http://bit.ly/8AvPvM | Sep 16 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Didn't hit the end of my talk as hard as I wanted although in general it was decent | Sep 16 18:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | IT Patriotism http://bit.ly/b3J2tx | Sep 16 18:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Article from Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier / @jzb RT @linuxfoundation: Compiling the #Linux #Kernel http://bit.ly/chYkOh | Sep 16 18:49 | |
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| TheMadHatter | Morning. | Sep 16 19:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] old man in a white dress on Ch4...oh wait, it's just the head of the worldwide Paedophile Party on his taxpayer funded state visit to the UK | Sep 16 19:09 | |
| TheMadHatter | I'm wondering if there is a Microsoft connection to this: | Sep 16 19:09 |
| TheMadHatter | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100913/12231510990.shtml | Sep 16 19:09 |
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| TheMadHatter | Or am I just being paranoid :) | Sep 16 19:10 |
| ThistleWeb | kust because you're paranoid, does not mean they're not out to get you ;P | Sep 16 19:10 |
| ThistleWeb | just* | Sep 16 19:10 |
| TheMadHatter | Yeah, I know. Some of what they guy is quoted as saying, sounds like it came out of the Microsoft playbook, which is why I suspect a connection. | Sep 16 19:11 |
| TheMadHatter | And I thought I'd give it to Roy, he's good at this sort of research. | Sep 16 19:13 |
| ThistleWeb | logicaly it does follow, techdirt do a good job of rebutting it | Sep 16 19:13 |
| TheMadHatter | Techdirt did do a good job of rebuttal, but they didn't look beneath the hood. Why is this guy doing what he's doing? If he getting paid to do so? If so, FTC blogging rules demand that he disclose that he is being paid. | Sep 16 19:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Weird nightmares: NOVL gets split up, VMWare takes SUSE and SCO buys the UNIX (c) to continue its "fight" #ouch | Sep 16 19:17 | |
| ThistleWeb | point | Sep 16 19:17 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: Red Hat won't buy Novell | Sep 16 19:17 |
| TheMadHatter | Problem is that I'm in the middle of something that is causing my hair to fall out (trying to set up a new website) and until I get it working, I haven't got any free time. | Sep 16 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Not even SUSE | Sep 16 19:17 |
| schestowitz | And the URL you put here baffled me cause URLs don't have question marks | Sep 16 19:18 |
| TheMadHatter | Hi Roy. | Sep 16 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @kernellogauthor Arnd Bergmann: Remaining BKL users, what to do http://bit.ly/aC41ts | Sep 16 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/405747/rss | Sep 16 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] I'll have the oolong, with a splash of open source http://bit.ly/cgqw4m #opensource #teaparty #howarddean #collaboration | Sep 16 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | It's written by stupid 'finance' people | Sep 16 19:19 |
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| schestowitz | They don't know the difference between Novell and SUSE even | Sep 16 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Joe Young: "Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE: RHT) was named by the Wall Street Journal yesterday to be one of the potential purchasers of Novell, which the New York Post announced would sell itself in two parts.." | Sep 16 19:19 |
| TheMadHatter | At which point you have to wonder if IBM might not get involved. I can't see that having VMWare in control of SUSE would be good for IBM. | Sep 16 19:21 |
| gnufreex | schstowitz: I didn't read the whole article before positing it here. Later I saw. | Sep 16 19:21 |
| gnufreex | schstowitz: I didn't read the whole article before positing it here. Later I saw. | Sep 16 19:21 |
| gnufreex | When I said: schstowitz: Nice post about SUSE buyout. I read it just now. | Sep 16 19:21 |
| gnufreex | I meant your articel | Sep 16 19:22 |
| gnufreex | post on techrights | Sep 16 19:22 |
| gnufreex | ANd about Red Hat buying SuSE... they probably won't. I just don't know what could happen if VMware get it. They want to kill Red Hat and they might bundle free Linux support with virtualization... and everybody uses some VMware virualization. It might hurd Red Hat. schestowitz. | Sep 16 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] World Bank backing coal more than ever before http://ur1.ca/1n9h8 | Sep 16 19:25 | |
| TheMadHatter | It might 'hurd' Red-Hat? I don't think they'd be stupid enough to hire Hurd. | Sep 16 19:26 |
| gnufreex | I meant hurt | Sep 16 19:26 |
| TheMadHatter | I know. But it was funnier my way. | Sep 16 19:26 |
| gnufreex | Hehe | Sep 16 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner RP @deadsuperhero: After playing with [#Diaspora] over on #OpenSpora, I'd have to say it's *extremely* promising | Sep 16 19:27 | |
| TheMadHatter | http://twitpic.com/wlq5j | Sep 16 19:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fontana @bkuhn I think it is appropriate to hold @joindiaspora to a high standard because they took monetary donations from many peo... | Sep 16 19:29 | |
| TheMadHatter | I think it's more important to provide them feedback at present, so that they can fix problems. And there well be problems, there always are with large projects. | Sep 16 19:32 |
| schestowitz | [17:33] <puzzled> fyi: just bumped into a blog posting from a Zeitgeist developer. Note the comment from Philip van H | Sep 16 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Oh no, him again | Sep 16 19:32 |
| gnufreex | That is anti-RMS | Sep 16 19:32 |
| gnufreex | guy | Sep 16 19:32 |
| gnufreex | He proposed GNOME to spilt from FSF | Sep 16 19:33 |
| TheMadHatter | You can tell a man by his enemies. RMS has so many enemies, all of who tell lies, that you know he's got to be a great person. | Sep 16 19:34 |
| gnufreex | Where is that blog post. I want to read. | Sep 16 19:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody #Silverlight is dying, Linux doesn't really need it anymore (did it ever?) | Sep 16 19:35 | |
| gnufreex | TheMadHatter: Indeed. I have read all kind of RMS bashing, and none makes sense when you see whole picture. | Sep 16 19:36 |
| gnufreex | Everybody says he is an extremist, nobody can prove it. | Sep 16 19:36 |
| gnufreex | *When I say everybody I mean those who criticize him. | Sep 16 19:37 |
| TheMadHatter | Just like they say Roy is an extremist. For that matter I've been called an extremist too. | Sep 16 19:37 |
| TheMadHatter | As has PJ. | Sep 16 19:37 |
| TheMadHatter | You will note that the common factor behind the attacks, is that someone is making money doing something, and is afraid that they might actually have to work. | Sep 16 19:38 |
| TheMadHatter | Think Microsoft and Free Software. Or The SCO Group and Groklaw. | Sep 16 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Qualcomm adopts Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization - http://ur1.ca/1n9lp nice! | Sep 16 19:39 | |
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| gnufreex | I was called extremist too... more than once. Some people think everybody who don't use Windows is some kind of extremist. It is good to be this kind of extremist then | Sep 16 19:39 |
| TheMadHatter | In some cases they should worry. I've actually got a plan in place to do some damage to the RIAA member companies in Canada, by taking away their market. But this is legal. Outperforming the current market leader is legal. | Sep 16 19:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer they claim to have made it profitable | Sep 16 19:40 | |
| TheMadHatter | Windows users are like battered spouses who keep going back to the abusive environment after being promiised that 'I really will change this time' | Sep 16 19:41 |
| gnufreex | That is exactly what I think. | Sep 16 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @joabj "There are 10 kinds of people in the World...Those who understand !binary, and those who don't!" (RD @Stav) | Sep 16 19:42 | |
| TheMadHatter | Tell them that then. Just telling them that Windows is a piece of scrap won't get you anywhere. When you point out that they are acting in a manner that is going to get them hurt, they are more likely to pay attention. | Sep 16 19:44 |
| gnufreex | It doesn't work. Tried. | Sep 16 19:45 |
| gnufreex | I mean, mostly. | Sep 16 19:45 |
| gnufreex | Sometimes does work. but rarely. | Sep 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz | TheMadHatter: hi | Sep 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I saw that 'study' too | Sep 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | I looked at the source | Sep 16 19:48 |
| TheMadHatter | Microsoft? | Sep 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | But nothing obvious showed a link to Microsoft on the surface | Sep 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | But try to link the company to previous "orders" (studies) from Microsoft | Sep 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | This can be interesting | Sep 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | [19:13] <ThistleWeb> logicaly it does follow, techdirt do a good job of rebutting it | Sep 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I read it there too | Sep 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | But the story generally got little attentio | Sep 16 19:50 |
| schestowitz | So not much damage as the AstroTurfer withj funding for TImes Square airing for months | Sep 16 19:50 |
| TheMadHatter | It sounds like Microsoft. A lot like Microsoft. | Sep 16 19:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @harishpillay: Qualcomm adopts Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization - http://ur1.ca/1n9lp nice! | Sep 16 19:50 | |
| TheMadHatter | BTW, does anyone here know a Debian expert? | Sep 16 19:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Qualcomm Gives Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization a Boost | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 53.86 KB | Sep 16 19:50 |
| TheMadHatter | And on a lighter note: | Sep 16 19:51 |
| TheMadHatter | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/15/where-should-you-pee-help_n_718098.html | Sep 16 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Where Should You Pee? Helpful Flowchart Maps Out All Your Options (PICTURE) .::. Size~: 293.89 KB | Sep 16 19:51 |
| TheMadHatter | Oh, almost forgot - Roy, did you see this? | Sep 16 19:52 |
| TheMadHatter | http://opensource.com/business/10/8/buying-credibility-look-ftcs-transparency-blogging-regulations | Sep 16 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Buying credibility: A look at the FTC's transparency-in-blogging regulations | opensource.com .::. Size~: 38.53 KB | Sep 16 19:52 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <TheMadHatter> At which point you have to wonder if IBM might not get involved. I can't see that having VMWare in control of SUSE would be good for IBM. | Sep 16 19:53 |
| schestowitz | I wondered the same thing some hours ago | Sep 16 19:53 |
| schestowitz | IBM is protective cause SUSE is in its mainframes | Sep 16 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Worth billions | Sep 16 19:53 |
| schestowitz | [19:24] <gnufreex> ... It might hurd Red Hat. schestowitz. | Sep 16 19:55 |
| TheMadHatter | Yeah. SUSE is a big deal to IBM. Having it in control of a company with close Microsoft ties is not in their best interests. | Sep 16 19:55 |
| schestowitz | "To Hurd" [verb] - to toss out management for obeying Linux agenda? | Sep 16 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Ya huuuuuuuuuurd? Woooooord up | Sep 16 19:55 |
| MinceR | vmware has m$ ties too? | Sep 16 19:56 |
| schestowitz | It's run by them | Sep 16 19:56 |
| MinceR | so i hurd u liek mudkipz | Sep 16 19:56 |
| TheMadHatter | a level of competition. Without competition, you end up with Microsoft Windows. | Sep 16 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Maritz, Tucci put him there | Sep 16 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Then Maritz put him mates from Microsoft in COO and another top position | Sep 16 19:56 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: hehe... just to be clear, I meant hurt. And Mark Hurd didn't really like Linux, he just thought it is good for bussines of HP. But Microsoft wants it's partners to neglect bussines and just folow MS jihad. | Sep 16 19:58 |
| schestowitz | [19:35] <gnufreex> Where is that blog post. I want to read. | Sep 16 19:59 |
| schestowitz | http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/09/zeitgeist-and-activity-journal-for-maemo | Sep 16 19:59 |
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| gnufreex | Philip Van Hoof says: | Sep 16 20:01 |
| gnufreex | September 16, 2010 at 2:07 pm | Sep 16 20:01 |
| gnufreex | Dude dude dude! This is awesome stuff. Let’s get this on Harmattan and integrated deeply with the latest Tracker 0.9 stuff. | Sep 16 20:01 |
| gnufreex | Integrate deeply? | Sep 16 20:01 |
| gnufreex | He is working for MS probably. | Sep 16 20:02 |
| schestowitz | [19:52] <TheMadHatter> Oh, almost forgot - Roy, did you see this? | Sep 16 20:02 |
| schestowitz | [19:52] <TheMadHatter> http://opensource.com/business/10/8/buying-credibility-look-ftcs-transparency-blogging-regulations | Sep 16 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | I wrote about it and some people linked to it yesterday | Sep 16 20:02 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/09/10/federal-scrutiny-for-shilling/ | Sep 16 20:03 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Sep 16 20:03 |
| gnufreex | hi | Sep 16 20:03 |
| schestowitz | [19:58] <gnufreex> schestowitz: hehe... just to be clear, I meant hurt. And Mark Hurd didn't really like Linux, he just thought it is good for bussines of HP. But Microsoft wants it's partners to neglect bussines and just folow MS jihad. | Sep 16 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Like Nokiao | Sep 16 20:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @rob_t_firefly: Dude-dude-dude-dude! Hackers (the movie) 15th Anniversary Party Oct 2nd http://kck.st/bILcSF #HackThePlanet #ZeroCoolDay | Sep 16 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | It's already neglecting MeeGo | Sep 16 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | ENTRYI~1 | Sep 16 20:04 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: What they did with MeeGo? | Sep 16 20:05 |
| gnufreex | Are they putting Mono in? | Sep 16 20:05 |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 16 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Old new | Sep 16 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Old news | Sep 16 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I wrote like 5 posts about it | Sep 16 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Nokia+Mono+Elop.... | Sep 16 20:06 |
| schestowitz | -Qt/ | Sep 16 20:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Right so it seems there won't be another Mandriva, untill the end of next year | Sep 16 20:07 |
| schestowitz_log | c | Sep 16 20:10 |
| schestowitz | " indeed, the point is *Microsoft* needs Linux...." http://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/24687647051 | Sep 16 20:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Watching !Star !Trek !Voyager again... I just love that series | Sep 16 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody to complete the sentence, "*Microsoft* needs Linux.... to become more of a property of Microsoft" (APIs, patents, software..) | Sep 16 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Comic] The Difference Between Android And iPhone – This Pretty Much Sums It Up http://ow.ly/2Fqfr | Sep 16 20:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] While the rich get richer http://ur1.ca/1na0y | Sep 16 20:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Bette Midler Do you think that Big Food is in cahoots with Big Pharma? Big Food makes us sick so Big Pharma can make us well !ACTA | Sep 16 20:25 | |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/16/microsoft-metro-mouse-leaks-out-promises-bluetrack-for-20/ | Sep 16 20:26 |
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| Diablo-D3 | holy fuck is that ugly | Sep 16 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Tomorrow at 08:00 UTC many !Ubuntu community-related services will interrupted - http://goo.gl/rYLw | Sep 16 20:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | How Thoughtful Of The BBC http://bit.ly/due72m 2nd new blog post this evening, kinda like buses, none for a while, then two | Sep 16 20:29 | |
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| MinceR | Track Wherever You Want To Go... except on cloth | Sep 16 20:29 |
| MinceR | people who buy m$ peripherals deserve what they get. | Sep 16 20:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @dotrights ACLU Settles Student-Cell-Phone-Search Lawsuit With Northeast Pennsylvania School District http://eff.org/r.r7m | Sep 16 20:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Is somebody using #CianogenMod and Google Apps for Business? Does it work fine or there's trouble with it? | Sep 16 20:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: RT @dotrights ACLU Settles Student-Cell-Phone-Search Lawsuit With Northeast Pennsylvania School District http://eff.org/r.r7m | Sep 16 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook Moves Toward OAuth 2.0 (WebProNews) http://bit.ly/cNmVdM | Sep 16 20:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Introducing OAuth 2.0 (YouTube) http://bit.ly/9iGvh9 | Sep 16 20:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @fontana @bkuhn I think it is appropriate to hold @joindiaspora to a high standard because they took monetary donations from many peo ... | Sep 16 20:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @copiesofcopies,you suggest I wanna find things #disturbing. By contrast,if #Diaspora becomes a non- #Open_Core FLOSS project, I'll applaud | Sep 16 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Why is it OK to use chips created from closed source but nit OK to update them? | Sep 16 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @copiesofcopies, besides, @joindiaspora announced #github choice months ago & didn't even answer those asking them to go #gitorious instead. | Sep 16 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I think that's correct. ∃ many projects I support on #SourceForge & #github, but none of that subset target !FaiF #netservices. | Sep 16 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 16/9/2010: !Debian !GNU #kFreeBSD Now With Graphical Installer, Linux-based #ViewPad in #India http://ur1.ca/1naha !techrights | Sep 16 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] China creates first directly solar powered air conditioner | TekGoblin http://ow.ly/2FrpS | Sep 16 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OAuth 2.0 - Part 4 (YouTube) http://bit.ly/9zhid0 | Sep 16 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft Exec Says 'Open' Means 'Incompetent' http://ping.fm/ytkyp | Sep 16 20:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook OAuth 2.0 page for Developers: http://bit.ly/aaFOAW | Sep 16 21:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Hack Turns $170 Media Viewer Into Tablet http://bit.ly/brWVca | Sep 16 21:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Thunderbird 3.1.4 and 3.0.8 updates now available for download http://mzl.la/b05Flc | Sep 16 21:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Nice !Blender http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/09/8-stunning-blender-made-short-films-and.html | Sep 16 21:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Getting over this cold now. A great wife, good friends, and metal are the cure. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, FDA. | Sep 16 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] WTF Is The Semantic Web? (Infographic) http://bit.ly/bbbCtK | Sep 16 21:10 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi everyone! | Sep 16 21:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6767602-bill-gates-discussion-on-death-panel-invokes-a-huge-outcry | Sep 16 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | Hi | Sep 16 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I wrote about it | Sep 16 21:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ok | Sep 16 21:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | This one scares me, as when has Ballmer ever made a prediction that was not totally wrong? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/buffett-ballmer-us-economy-to-avoid-double-dip-2079409.html | Sep 16 21:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: Coverflow plug-in for #Rhythmbox http://goo.gl/yOFU | Sep 16 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Open source #Facebook replacement !Diaspora drops first alpha http://goo.gl/XnMl | Sep 16 21:19 | |
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| schestowitz | dip? | Sep 16 21:19 |
| schestowitz | It dipped? | Sep 16 21:19 |
| schestowitz | They make it sound like it came back up :-) | Sep 16 21:19 |
| schestowitz | For the banks it did :-) | Sep 16 21:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | no, I think its been one long decline | Sep 16 21:20 |
| schestowitz | And Warrn | Sep 16 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Oh lovely Warren, the world's second-most generous | Sep 16 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: why are you not as generous as Lovely Warren and SteveB? | Sep 16 21:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | blood sucking leeches are what they are | Sep 16 21:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Identi.ca really need some more !qabalah to !study. The World really need to know | Sep 16 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] if you end up wondering why Kubuntu Maverick doesn't have menu titles for systray icon context menus ... | Sep 16 21:20 | |
| schestowitz | :-p[ | Sep 16 21:20 |
| schestowitz | "Bill Gates is a strong eugenicist who believes that instead of spending millions of dollars on old people who just have months to live, the money should be spent elsewhere where it can actually benefit people. " | Sep 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | He takes care of us | Sep 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Fatha' Bill | Sep 16 21:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | with death panels? | Sep 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | It's good for him to leave Microsoft | Sep 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Now he gets to decide who dies | Sep 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Kicks the hell out of controlling people's PCs | Sep 16 21:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | just the old people so far | Sep 16 21:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | then maybe the Jews, Polish, next, like someone else in history | Sep 16 21:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Archive frozen for preparation of !Ubuntu 10.10 http://goo.gl/twC4 | Sep 16 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it's because i couldn't sign Canonical's copyright attribution agreement, so they reverted the various fixes i had made. | Sep 16 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] hopefully they fix their contribution agreement. i've been told i'll hear more about that tomorrow from them. | Sep 16 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink huh? says who? I've no qualms with updating the software on any chips, as long as the software is Free | Sep 16 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink if the “software” on the chip is immutable, you can't change it, but not because of unethical behavior, so it might be ok | Sep 16 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] ♻ @karsten gpl-violations.org achieves source release for Dell Streak http://ur1.ca/1napo c'mon Dell, must you have it the hard way? | Sep 16 21:24 | |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: the Linux users :-) | Sep 16 21:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sure, we be near the top on Bill death panel list | Sep 16 21:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *Bill's | Sep 16 21:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva So chips built from closed software are fine but closed firmware binaries to update them are not? | Sep 16 21:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Politicians in Egypt http://ur1.ca/1nasg | Sep 16 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink some hold that software that's hidden and not serviceable is part of the hardware, but recent EULA ruling might change that | Sep 16 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] !Qabalah really need to open up and offer teaching for free, to enforce the community, and the study of the !'tree of life' | Sep 16 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #IDC / #BSA Propaganda for #Microsoft and Other Proprietary Software Companies http://ur1.ca/1nat0 #pr #lobby | Sep 16 21:27 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | all kinds of spin (lies) from Microsoft now, about sueing activists in Russia for software piracy | Sep 16 21:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink I don't fully agree with that. and I don't quite understand closed software, let alone chips built from it | Sep 16 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink non-Free Software, i.e., denying others essential software freedoms, is unethical, no matter how you name the software | Sep 16 21:30 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they are going to grant "free" (well not really free) to NGO, or Non Governmental Organization for one year. After that the NGO's have to sign up to get "free" (really non-free) software from MS. Why would anyone trust MS to sign up at that point? After all, MS worked hand in hand with the Russian Gov to go after these NGO's. | Sep 16 21:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink so non-Free firmware is surely unethical. for printed unmodifiable circuits, it's not that clear | Sep 16 21:32 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Maybe Microsoft is just looking for the heat (bad PR) to be off them. Then in a years time, they make a list, and latter hand that over to the Russian government. | Sep 16 21:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2010/09/15/microsoft-is-not-evil-but-its-friends-are.aspx | Sep 16 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Is Not Evil (But Its Friends Are) (BP, GOOG, MSFT, VIP) .::. Size~: 61.24 KB | Sep 16 21:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | No, Microsoft is evil | Sep 16 21:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.sys-con.com/node/1533165 | Sep 16 21:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Has Microsoft Russia Gone Rogue on Redmond? | SYS-CON MEDIA .::. Size~: 83.16 KB | Sep 16 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] seriously... why do i get this jerk harassing me -- @thejackal -- @candrews wrote a bunch of #statusnet and gave it to #gnusocial as a start | Sep 16 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink that said, I don't like to give up freedoms to study source code, adapt, copy, improve, share and use designs rendered in hardware | Sep 16 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] MS have been exposed helping the Russian govt clamp down on dissidents under the veil of "piracy", what other govts have they also helped? | Sep 16 21:34 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They did nothing when the activists complained to Microsoft, until the New York Times published that article exposing what Microsoft was doing. | Sep 16 21:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink the nature of hardware for now makes it harder to adapt, copy and improve than software, so maybe not as urgent to fight for | Sep 16 21:35 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2010/09/piracy_isnt_the.html | Sep 16 21:36 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.russiaprofile.org/page.php?pageid=Politics&articleid=a1284658604 | Sep 16 21:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Microsoft Has Performed a Policy U-Turn to Skirt a PR Quagmire, but Can It Protect Russian Civil Society From Trumped-Up Police Clampdowns?" | Sep 16 21:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: well, microsoft isnt the bad guys here | Sep 16 21:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're being used as some big name for the russians to hide behind | Sep 16 21:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "But civil society representatives are skeptical that the software giant?s measures will actually help them, and claim Microsoft ignored their previous appeals for help even though they showed adequate evidence that their software was fully licensed." | Sep 16 21:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | No, Microsoft is the bad guy here. | Sep 16 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: you know what the stormtroopers did in russia? | Sep 16 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | they stormed "anti government protestors" and ripped the license stickers off their computers | Sep 16 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | and turned around and arrested them for pirated software | Sep 16 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | and tried to rope microsoft into going along with it | Sep 16 21:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Well of to bed... tomorrow is a homeworking day, and a service window from 5 pm to 4 am Sunday... | Sep 16 21:39 | |
| Diablo-D3 | russia is, and always will be, the bad guys here. | Sep 16 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats their thing | Sep 16 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats what they do | Sep 16 21:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Microsoft lawyers in Russia this year ignored various appeals from NGOs and journalists who claimed that police were deliberately sabotaging their work by confiscating their computers under the pretext that they were running unlicensed Microsoft software, The New York Times reported Sunday." | Sep 16 21:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Russia?s crackdown on software piracy has slowly been gathering momentum since it began in 2007, and more than 3,000 criminal raids have been carried out in a single year, the Top Tech technology Web site reported. For the first time ever Russia opened up an investigation into a major foreign company (LG Electronics) for software piracy at the end of last month." | Sep 16 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: yes, and what is microsoft supposed to do here? | Sep 16 21:39 |
| ThistleWeb | a sticker is not the only proof of a vaild licence | Sep 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're a software company, not the world police | Sep 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | ThistleWeb: no its not | Sep 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | but you can tell the russians htat | Sep 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | or they'll have you executed | Sep 16 21:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | agreed, but Microsoft is a lacky company. Its sucks up to whoever is in power. | Sep 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: notice it says microsoft lawyers in russia | Sep 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | guess what happens to lawyers in russia who dont play along? | Sep 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | they get executed. | Sep 16 21:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink an analogy I like is opaque hardware : hiring a service :: blob-fed hardware : SaaS | Sep 16 21:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #France failed to protect Muslim women's right to practice their religion.Great failure in the land of "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" #fail | Sep 16 21:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink like, when you hire a service from someone else, it's their freedom to choose how to perform it, not necessarily yours | Sep 16 21:40 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Look at the scale of sucking up to the Russian gov. 3000 raids | Sep 16 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | except microsoft never called for these raids | Sep 16 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | russia went ahead and did it ONLY against people they dont like | Sep 16 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | and turned around and tried to blame microsoft | Sep 16 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | now, if I was microsoft, I would speak out very publically | Sep 16 21:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think MS did call for the raids | Sep 16 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | such as, for example, give everyone in russia a free license for windows. | Sep 16 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | just to screw the russian government | Sep 16 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: I doubt it | Sep 16 21:42 |
| MinceR | there's no upper limit of 1 bad guy there | Sep 16 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: true | Sep 16 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | but microsoft didnt tell russia to go murder dissidents | Sep 16 21:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MeeGo WeTab features one-second instant on - TG Daily http://ping.fm/nt2Qu | Sep 16 21:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink whereas with SaaS, running the software is the service, and you're taken away control over the software -> ethical problem | Sep 16 21:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MeeGo WeTab features one-second instant on | TG Daily .::. Size~: 47.13 KB | Sep 16 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're a software company, not blackwater international. | Sep 16 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont like having to stand up for Microsoft here, so shut up already. | Sep 16 21:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Microsoft is not giving everyone in Russia a free Windows, only a one year moratorium on sueing NGO's | Sep 16 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: who knows | Sep 16 21:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | read the articles please | Sep 16 21:43 |
| MinceR | no, they're not a software company | Sep 16 21:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | this isnt even finished yet | Sep 16 21:43 |
| MinceR | they're a marketing/legal company | Sep 16 21:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | Russia is going to start just killing everybody | Sep 16 21:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS went after the NGO's | Sep 16 21:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, like, everyone says hitler killed a lot of jews, right? | Sep 16 21:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | russia still holds the high score. | Sep 16 21:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | actually China | Sep 16 21:43 |
| MinceR | wasn't it m$ who bought the laws in russia that the russians use in this case in the first place? | Sep 16 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | china has killed a lot of people, but not specifically jews. | Sep 16 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Diaspora Could Open New Social Scene for Business (Network World): http://bit.ly/bjB4M1 | Sep 16 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 1 day and 16:17:30 left until SOFTWARE FREEDOM DAY 2010 http://ur1.ca/btwh | Sep 16 21:44 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes, but ms wants to sell legit copies to people. they cant if they're _dead_. | Sep 16 21:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | China holds the record on death | Sep 16 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: that I'll agree with | Sep 16 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | russia is #2 though | Sep 16 21:44 |
| ThistleWeb | I dunno, dead people manage to vote for certain interests | Sep 16 21:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Sep 16 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | ThistleWeb: they can run for office too, so hey... | Sep 16 21:44 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: actually m$ wants profit and control, whatever the cost | Sep 16 21:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | you can hate bill gates all you want, but hes not a murderer. | Sep 16 21:45 |
| MinceR | "sell legit copies" is just one method out of many | Sep 16 21:45 |
| MinceR | murder is not the only evil thing one can do | Sep 16 21:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | hes just a sleazebag of a businessman | Sep 16 21:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google: Chrome will be 60 times faster (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/cO16jP | Sep 16 21:45 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | but not a murderer. | Sep 16 21:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | so dont try to rope microsoft into russia murdering people unless you have absolute proof | Sep 16 21:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | russia is just trying to take advantage of microsoft so they can blame it on someone else if it goes south | Sep 16 21:46 |
| MinceR | don't try the "there's someone who did worse things so m$ is saintly" bullshit everyone's trying over and over, it's a fallacy | Sep 16 21:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | now, dont get me wrong, if I was microsoft, I'd spend a large chunk of change to make russia look like shit | Sep 16 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd buy the front page of the nyt just to detail what russia has done. | Sep 16 21:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] CNN iReport video - #Mexico Celebrates its 200 Year Birthday. CNN: http://bit.ly/c3HDdf via @sjs1@jaiku.com | Sep 16 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] That should be via @sjsf@jaiku.com ... Sorry, Javier | Sep 16 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates Called a “Strong Eugenicist” http://ur1.ca/1nayb Gates’ recent remarks on “death panel” still cause a storm | Sep 16 21:47 | |
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| ThistleWeb | yeah that'd go down well with the Russian govt | Sep 16 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | but I'm a dick, and I'll be damned if russia is going to out dick me. they're small fries. | Sep 16 21:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<Diablo-D3> you can hate bill gates all you want, but hes not a murderer." Nobody is saying Bill is. But if he was in a position of real power, would he impose Death Panels? | Sep 16 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | ThistleWeb: hey man, they started it | Sep 16 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | they started killing potential MS customers. | Sep 16 21:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | or really, already existing MS customers. | Sep 16 21:48 |
| ThistleWeb | they'd also likely counter by dropping MS or causeing extra problems for MS legitamitely doing business in Russia | Sep 16 21:48 |
| MinceR | like m$ cares about that | Sep 16 21:48 |
| MinceR | they screwed their own distributors, remember? | Sep 16 21:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I dunno man, if I ran MS, I dont think I'd like the news telling everyone that if you use windows in russia, they'll come to your house and shoot you | Sep 16 21:48 |
| ThistleWeb | an antitrust suit coming out of nowhere for example | Sep 16 21:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | ThistleWeb: actually, I wouldnt _do_ legitimate business in russia | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | at all | Sep 16 21:49 |
| ThistleWeb | a switch of govt pcs to redflag linux | Sep 16 21:49 |
| MinceR | so m$ is trying to make it seem as if they were heroes here | Sep 16 21:49 |
| MinceR | they're not | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: they're not | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | its all PR damage control | Sep 16 21:49 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 16 21:49 |
| MinceR | don't help them with that :> | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "But activists are unsure the move will have any impact. ?To be honest, the measure which they have proposed doesn?t protect non-commercial organizations from police pressure because the principle remains the same. If a computer has a sticker on it to prove it is licensed, then everything is in order. If the sticker is taken away then there is proof of nothing. So the fact that they?re going to give out software for free | Sep 16 21:49 |
| ThistleWeb | they wont do anything that risks damaging their ability to make money in Russia | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | but not being a hero doesnt mean you're the bad guy | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | doesn?t resolve the problem for non-commercial organizations,? said Igor Ogorodnikov, an activist at Baikal Environmental Wave. ?Police officers can still come in, remove the stickers and say ?look you don?t have them, we?re taking away all the computers.? Simple as that.? " | Sep 16 21:49 |
| MinceR | they're one of the bad guys | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | but not being a hero doesnt mean you're the bad guy | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're _a_ bad guy | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | somewhere | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | but not in this fight | Sep 16 21:49 |
| MinceR | same thing | Sep 16 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're just another victim of the russian system | Sep 16 21:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | its soviet russia 2.0 | Sep 16 21:50 |
| MinceR | not plainly | Sep 16 21:50 |
| ThistleWeb | Diablo-D3: wheres the link to the story about the stormtroopers ripping off stickers? | Sep 16 21:50 |
| MinceR | they were using the same russian system to their advantage | Sep 16 21:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | ThistleWeb: saw it in my rss feed the other day | Sep 16 21:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think it was on slashdot or boing boing | Sep 16 21:50 |
| ThistleWeb | I dont remember it as slashdot, maybe boin boing, I dont subscribe to them | Sep 16 21:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes, but that doesnt mean russia can just go murder people | Sep 16 21:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: wrong is wrong | Sep 16 21:51 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 16 21:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | First, MS does not make that much money in Russia or Red China. The bad PR they get from this in the USA and western countries is worth much more. | Sep 16 21:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | now, I'd be very happy if Microsoft stood up and publically spoke out about this | Sep 16 21:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | it'd mean they arent totally heartless bastards | Sep 16 21:51 |
| MinceR | i'd be very happy if m$ just hurried up and went bankrupt already | Sep 16 21:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think Bill Gates has a little bit of humanity left in his dark heart | Sep 16 21:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | maybe this will stir it to life | Sep 16 21:52 |
| MinceR | that darkness _is_ humanity | Sep 16 21:52 |
| MinceR | see what the species does | Sep 16 21:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | are you sure about this? | Sep 16 21:52 |
| *Diablo-D3 shrugs. | Sep 16 21:52 | |
| ThistleWeb | they're not all that familiar with the truth, can they do a press release that contains any reality? Will anyone believe them? | Sep 16 21:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: its funny, the bible speaks of demons. | Sep 16 21:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | no demon can be worse than a human. | Sep 16 21:52 |
| MinceR | "hell is other people" | Sep 16 21:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Shuttleworth answers Ubuntu Linux's critics | ITworld http://bit.ly/92yyG3 | Sep 16 21:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shuttleworth answers Ubuntu Linux's critics | ITworld .::. Size~: 82.79 KB | Sep 16 21:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have less faith in Microsoft than you. | Sep 16 21:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: I have zero faith in them. I don't think you can have negative faith. | Sep 16 21:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just hate Russia more than MS. | Sep 16 21:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | MS rips people off, Russia kills people. Theres a few magnitudes of difference here. | Sep 16 21:53 |
| ThistleWeb | you do seem to have a lot of hate reserves to spread around | Sep 16 21:53 |
| MinceR | i hate them both | Sep 16 21:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can multitask my hate. | Sep 16 21:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but this is the gentler kindler new Russia, not the old Soviet Union. | Sep 16 21:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | lol | Sep 16 21:53 |
| ThistleWeb | it is a new Russia, a lot is different, but they do seem to be slipping backwards in terms of press freedoms etc | Sep 16 21:54 |
| MinceR | well, afaik putin managed to get all the power already | Sep 16 21:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I don't hate either Russia or Microsoft. But I want their evil works to be known. | Sep 16 21:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | no its not | Sep 16 21:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the same fucking russia | Sep 16 21:54 |
| MinceR | of course the economic system is different, since the old one crushed the empire | Sep 16 21:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, look whos king | Sep 16 21:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | a former KGB agent, one of their best. | Sep 16 21:54 |
| ThistleWeb | commie eyes huh? | Sep 16 21:54 |
| MinceR | not really a question of commie or not | Sep 16 21:55 |
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| Diablo-D3 | communism in russia was just something to hide behind | Sep 16 21:55 |
| ThistleWeb | those witchhunts in the 60's were hilarious | Sep 16 21:55 |
| Shadowww|RDP | russia is democratic country kthxbai and so was soviet union | Sep 16 21:55 |
| ThistleWeb | the McCarthy insanity | Sep 16 21:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you're a murderer, you're a murderer | Sep 16 21:55 |
| MinceR | it was the old method to gain ownership of everything | Sep 16 21:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | period | Sep 16 21:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Mule software connects with the cloud - Computerworld http://bit.ly/9jEq9l | Sep 16 21:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mule software connects with the cloud - Computerworld .::. Size~: 75.79 KB | Sep 16 21:55 |
| MinceR | "it belongs to the people and we'll graciously manage it for them" | Sep 16 21:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS continues to do evil in both Russia and Red China, any way you want to look at it. | Sep 16 21:56 |
| Shadowww|RDP | and how exactly MS does evil? | Sep 16 21:57 |
| ThistleWeb | Russia have adopted Capitalism, but like the example the rich west set, corruption from the big players ensures monopolies etc | Sep 16 21:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS continues to morph into a legal firm as well. Its model will be more like the RIAA in time. Just look at this Russian case, and the similarities to the RIAA | Sep 16 21:58 |
| Shadowww|RDP | by selling best desktop OS since 1993 for adequate price? | Sep 16 21:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 16 21:58 |
| MinceR | keep up the comedy | Sep 16 21:58 |
| Shadowww|RDP | also MS gave free licenses to all Russian mass-media companies | Sep 16 21:58 |
| Shadowww|RDP | not only to Windows, but also to Office etc | Sep 16 21:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<Shadowww|RDP> by selling best desktop OS since 1993 for adequate price?" Which one, Microsoft Bob? | Sep 16 21:59 |
| Shadowww|RDP | so no idea what bs you are talking about | Sep 16 21:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @stickster indeed it was (if it's the same talk I heard :) | Sep 16 21:59 | |
| Shadowww|RDP | Chips_B_Malroy, no, the one with 96% market share on desktop PCs. | Sep 16 21:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they don't have 96% | Sep 16 21:59 |
| MinceR | please don't feed the troll | Sep 16 21:59 |
| Shadowww|RDP | uh ok 91% | Sep 16 21:59 |
| Shadowww|RDP | big difference. | Sep 16 21:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | where is the eject button | Sep 16 21:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 89% maybe even 88 | Sep 16 22:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | could be less | Sep 16 22:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz I wonder if he'd advocate "using free software" as a sign of genetic insanity that must not be allowed to breed | Sep 16 22:00 | |
| Shadowww|RDP | 7% Mac OS X, 1% Linux, 100% - 8% doesn't makes 88% | Sep 16 22:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and falling | Sep 16 22:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ah, you using USA figures | Sep 16 22:01 |
| Shadowww|RDP | I am using worldwide figures actually. | Sep 16 22:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | from MS shill sites | Sep 16 22:01 |
| MinceR | no, he's using bullshit figures | Sep 16 22:01 |
| ThistleWeb | macs have very little share in poor countruies | Sep 16 22:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | same think | Sep 16 22:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | thing | Sep 16 22:01 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 16 22:01 |
| ThistleWeb | way too expensive | Sep 16 22:01 |
| Shadowww|RDP | MinceR, I am sorry but opinion of someone who uses childish smileys ( :> ) doesn't really counts. | Sep 16 22:02 |
| ThistleWeb | even in the rich countries, only the more affluent people have them | Sep 16 22:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I am sure the Red Chinese can afford Macs at 35 cents an hour | Sep 16 22:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 7% LOL | Sep 16 22:02 |
| MinceR | Shadowww|RDP: sorry but you suck even at trolling | Sep 16 22:02 |
| ThistleWeb | hackintosh's? quite likely, but they won't count as "macs" | Sep 16 22:02 |
| Shadowww|RDP | also in USA, Mac OS X has 12-13% market share. | Sep 16 22:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe in the USA it does | Sep 16 22:02 |
| Shadowww|RDP | and Linux (surprise) has <1% | Sep 16 22:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | net apps lies | Sep 16 22:03 |
| ThistleWeb | linux is almost impossible to count | Sep 16 22:03 |
| MinceR | gn | Sep 16 22:03 |
| Shadowww|RDP | Chips_B_Malroy, yeah, that's why I am using StatCounter | Sep 16 22:03 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a different model, the others have sales reciepts to count | Sep 16 22:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | wait MinceR | Sep 16 22:03 |
| ThistleWeb | and 1 install per pc | Sep 16 22:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ThistleWeb, can you take over the eject button? | Sep 16 22:04 |
| ThistleWeb | linux have no standard way to count downalods, nor how many installs that cd has done, if any | Sep 16 22:04 |
| Shadowww|RDP | ThistleWeb, let's not forget that not a single adequate person would ever install Linux on his work PC | Sep 16 22:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @quaid @aseigo I doubt that any for-profit entity can be as good a copyright attribution steward; FSF-style seems like a good idea. | Sep 16 22:04 | |
| MinceR | Chips_B_Malroy: i can't reach the button | Sep 16 22:04 |
| Shadowww|RDP | it doesn't even has proper office suite. | Sep 16 22:04 |
| ThistleWeb | Shadowww|RDP: rofl | Sep 16 22:04 |
| cubevector | I have Linux on my work computer | Sep 16 22:04 |
| cubevector | since 2003 | Sep 16 22:04 |
| ThistleWeb | I use Linux full time too | Sep 16 22:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have LInux on all my computers | Sep 16 22:04 |
| ThistleWeb | not everyone needs an office suoite to work | Sep 16 22:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | same here | Sep 16 22:04 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Sep 16 22:05 | |
| ThistleWeb | and those who do, only use a tiny fraction of what MS office has, which the others do for free | Sep 16 22:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | OpenOffice, Koffice, and Abiword all free, work fine for me | Sep 16 22:05 |
| ThistleWeb | a small minorty need the advanced MS office stuff | Sep 16 22:05 |
| ThistleWeb | but most dont | Sep 16 22:05 |
| Shadowww|RDP | ThistleWeb, where proper OpenXML export in OOo? | Sep 16 22:05 |
| schestowitz | shadowww@rev-crew.info | Sep 16 22:05 |
| cubevector | plus there's a ton of HDTV's that run Linux | Sep 16 22:05 |
| ThistleWeb | who uses a "standard" MS bought? | Sep 16 22:05 |
| Shadowww|RDP | I mean, seriously, OpenOffice doesn't supports OpenXML. | Sep 16 22:05 |
| schestowitz | IIRC some old troll | Sep 16 22:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS OFFICE really is a pain to use, install, patch | Sep 16 22:05 |
| cubevector | and routers too | Sep 16 22:05 |
| ThistleWeb | everyone I know uses xp .doc | Sep 16 22:05 |
| cubevector | eh? | Sep 16 22:06 |
| ThistleWeb | because it's an accepted format | Sep 16 22:06 |
| Shadowww|RDP | Chips_B_Malroy, that's why only geeks use non-MS office, right? | Sep 16 22:06 |
| ThistleWeb | they've been burned by ooxml and dont wanna use it | Sep 16 22:06 |
| Shadowww|RDP | cause MSO is so pain to use, install and patch? | Sep 16 22:06 |
| cubevector | anyways, this conversation is like 5 years out of date | Sep 16 22:06 |
| Shadowww|RDP | also even MS Office 97 supports .doc better than Go-OOo 3.2.1 | Sep 16 22:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<Shadowww|RDP> I mean, seriously, OpenOffice doesn't supports OpenXML." Who needs that? That just sick MS lockin that nobody really needs. Its MS way to lock people in, and get them to overpay for MS Office. | Sep 16 22:07 |
| cubevector | why even bother using doc at all? | Sep 16 22:07 |
| Shadowww|RDP | Chips_B_Malroy, yeah OpenXML is totally lock-in and has totally closed specifications | Sep 16 22:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that why MS lost to I4i IN COURT | Sep 16 22:07 |
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| Shadowww|RDP | yes, end users totally care about what MS lost in court | Sep 16 22:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they stole i4i OpenXML | Sep 16 22:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | for Office | Sep 16 22:08 |
| Shadowww|RDP | i4i seems so popular company even Wikipedia has no clue about it :( | Sep 16 22:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so now its crippled Office | Sep 16 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So, VMware now agrees that it needs an OS huh? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703440604575496053490383496.html #fb | Sep 16 22:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: VMware in Talks to Buy Novell Unit - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 133.44 KB | Sep 16 22:09 |
| Shadowww|RDP | also OpenOffice has no Clippy | Sep 16 22:09 |
| Shadowww|RDP | :( | Sep 16 22:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but it always was crippled and full of bugs/spyware/activation spyware, and exploits | Sep 16 22:09 |
| ThistleWeb | for some people like gamers Windows will be the platform of choice for the forseeable future | Sep 16 22:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, you got me there, Clippy | Sep 16 22:09 |
| ThistleWeb | for almost everyone else, there's an escape route if they chose to take it | Sep 16 22:09 |
| cubevector | don't you have anything better to do Shadowww|RDP ? | Sep 16 22:10 |
| Shadowww|RDP | Chips_B_Malroy, dunno, I am legit user of Windows and Microsoft Office and I never had any problems with bugs, spyware and activation. | Sep 16 22:10 |
| ThistleWeb | rofl | Sep 16 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: really games consoles should be the platforms of choice for propritary games | Sep 16 22:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I feel sad for you | Sep 16 22:10 |
| Shadowww|RDP | cubevector, I have alot of better things to do, but why? | Sep 16 22:10 |
| ThistleWeb | sebsebseb: I agree | Sep 16 22:10 |
| schestowitz | You were here before | Sep 16 22:10 |
| schestowitz | People say you're a troll | Sep 16 22:10 |
| Shadowww|RDP | good for them I suppose. | Sep 16 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: however so much ignorance when it comes to gaming, so people think Windows is the best OS for games | Sep 16 22:11 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: and well it is for propritary games | Sep 16 22:11 |
| Shadowww|RDP | sebsebseb, Windows is superior to Linux even when it comes to file systems | Sep 16 22:11 |
| schestowitz | You're off topic and all over the place just flaming | Sep 16 22:11 |
| ThistleWeb | Windows IS the best PC OS for games | Sep 16 22:11 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: however propritary games like propritary software, eww uh. opensource/freesoftware :) | Sep 16 22:11 |
| Shadowww|RDP | even 2009 ext4 doesn't has transparent compression, which NTFS had in 1996. | Sep 16 22:11 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: no it is not, NTFS and FAT and such are a joke | Sep 16 22:11 |
| Shadowww|RDP | sebsebseb, yeah, cause ext4 totally has transparent encryption and compression, and proper ACLs | Sep 16 22:11 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah defragging, rebooting after each update, I love it | Sep 16 22:11 |
| ThistleWeb | but anyhoo | Sep 16 22:12 |
| Shadowww|RDP | ThistleWeb, never had to defrag, what I am doing wrong? | Sep 16 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: Windows file systems need disk defragging, Linux file systems useually not | Sep 16 22:12 |
| gnufreex | Shadowww|RDP: You mean OOXML? It is fauxpen standard, spec is convoulted mess which M$ doesn't consider implementing at all. They have just put it out to say it is open, but they will implement just a subset and nobody knows which subset exactly. | Sep 16 22:12 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm not interested in "debating" a troll | Sep 16 22:12 |
| Shadowww|RDP | sebsebseb, ext4 "doesn't has to be defragmented" cause there are just no proper defragmenters for it ;D | Sep 16 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: also I notice your on Windows right now, and that you got RDP in your name as well, so maybe your just here to troll | Sep 16 22:12 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd suggest a combo of ignore and kick | Sep 16 22:12 |
| gnufreex | <Shadowww|RDP> Chips_B_Malroy, yeah OpenXML is totally lock-in and has totally closed specifications | Sep 16 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: also disk encryption can be done with Linux distros :) | Sep 16 22:12 |
| cubevector | Shadowww|RDP, you must enjoy giving money to Microsoft right? | Sep 16 22:12 |
| gnufreex | I was refering to that. | Sep 16 22:12 |
| Shadowww|RDP | sebsebseb, yeah, I am on decent OS, using a decent remote protocol, so? | Sep 16 22:12 |
| ThistleWeb | he's only here to enflame, and argue | Sep 16 22:13 |
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| gnufreex | But I just now saw he is a troll | Sep 16 22:13 |
| sebsebseb | oh wow we got a troll | Sep 16 22:13 |
| sebsebseb | this has been a while | Sep 16 22:13 |
| sebsebseb | in fact Shadowww|RDP might be the first troll since it changed to techrights offically | Sep 16 22:13 |
| cubevector | better work hard so you can keep doing that | Sep 16 22:13 |
| sebsebseb | the channel | Sep 16 22:13 |
| Shadowww|RDP | cubevector, no, why? Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard is free | Sep 16 22:13 |
| ThistleWeb | any conversation with him, and he wins | Sep 16 22:13 |
| Shadowww|RDP | and so is Visual Studio 2010 Professional | Sep 16 22:13 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: no thats propritary software | Sep 16 22:13 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: also if your being given away that free as a student maybe, thats since they want you vender locked in | Sep 16 22:13 |
| cubevector | where do you get windows for free? | Sep 16 22:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @harishpillay: So, VMware now agrees that it needs an OS huh? http://is.gd/fdVT3 | who is attachmate? | Sep 16 22:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: VMware in Talks to Buy Novell Unit - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 133.45 KB | Sep 16 22:14 |
| Shadowww|RDP | cubevector, MSDNAA for Windows, DreamSpark for VS | Sep 16 22:14 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: Dreamspark is for the vencer lock in | Sep 16 22:14 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: get young people locked in to their junk | Sep 16 22:14 |
| Shadowww|RDP | cool story bro | Sep 16 22:14 |
| cubevector | oh I get it, you're a student | Sep 16 22:14 |
| Shadowww|RDP | also, Windows 7 Ultimate retail is $270, while using Linux costs you $700 | Sep 16 22:14 |
| cubevector | lol | Sep 16 22:15 |
| Shadowww|RDP | have you paid your debt to SCO yet? | Sep 16 22:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | back | Sep 16 22:15 |
| cubevector | no life experience yet | Sep 16 22:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: DeamonFC was one thing, but now we got a real troll, maybe something should be done about him | Sep 16 22:15 |
| cubevector | just kick him out | Sep 16 22:15 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd echo that | Sep 16 22:15 |
| Shadowww|RDP | sebsebseb, why you so afraid of trolls? oh wait, I understand, your IRC client was coded by 5 students so it doesn't even has /ignore function. | Sep 16 22:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So rumours are that VMWare will take the SUSE part and http://www.attachmate.com/ the rest. Strange stuff. #dontthinkso | Sep 16 22:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Terminal Emulation, Enterprise Fraud Management, Managed File Transfer, SSH, Legacy Modernization, PC X Server, and Systems and Security Management | Attachmate .::. Size~: 33.99 KB | Sep 16 22:15 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: if you like Windows well you can join ##windows and hang out in there | Sep 16 22:16 |
| cubevector | Shadowww|RDP, go do your homework | Sep 16 22:16 |
| Shadowww|RDP | cubevector, if I'd had any homework left I wouldn't be sitting here discussing this with you, now would I? | Sep 16 22:16 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: if your about, maybe you can deal with the troll :) | Sep 16 22:16 |
| ThistleWeb | I found that if the whole channel ignores him, he does eventually get bored because his fun has come to an end | Sep 16 22:16 |
| cubevector | Shadowww|RDP, alas you seem to have nothing of substance to say | Sep 16 22:17 |
| Shadowww|RDP | ThistleWeb, yeah, but don't forget that linux IRC clients are so advanced they don't have /ignore command.. because user can ignore it himself, no need for support in app | Sep 16 22:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] It is 2pm here in Cali, and seeing some very kind happy birthday messages already on Facebook, I assume from Asia - love the Internet! | Sep 16 22:17 | |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: the people that come to this channel care about software freedom, yeah what Richard Stallman mentions on http://www.gnu.org in the philosophey section for example | Sep 16 22:17 |
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| ThistleWeb | nobody wants you here, you have nothing to say, IRC also jas a kick and ban option | Sep 16 22:18 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: many of us will use WIndows if we have a proper reason to, but we won't like using it much, because we want software freedom :) | Sep 16 22:18 |
| Shadowww|RDP | sebsebseb, Richard Stalledman, the one who uses gNewSense? | Sep 16 22:18 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: no the one who started the Free Software Foundation and General Public Lisense GPL | Sep 16 22:18 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: as well as the GNU project | Sep 16 22:18 |
| Shadowww|RDP | I hope he enjoys his repositories with 3 packages. | Sep 16 22:18 |
| Shadowww|RDP | hmm, strange, people who care about licensing can't even spell word 'license' | Sep 16 22:19 |
| Shadowww|RDP | ThistleWeb, yeah, good for nobody I suppose | Sep 16 22:19 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: also Linux distros can run loads of apps | Sep 16 22:19 |
| Shadowww|RDP | "loads of apps".. sounds like "you can transport loads of people on this airplane" | Sep 16 22:19 |
| sebsebseb | Shadowww|RDP: and really people like you don't deserve to use them, because your pathetic and trolling a Linux and such channel | Sep 16 22:19 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on *!*@rev-crew.info | Sep 16 22:19 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shadowww|RDP from #techrights (User term) | Sep 16 22:20 | |
| ThistleWeb | about time | Sep 16 22:20 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: indeed | Sep 16 22:20 |
| schestowitz | I was writing a post | Sep 16 22:21 |
| ThistleWeb | I was about to leave since it looked like no action was forthcoming | Sep 16 22:21 |
| schestowitz | So hadn't paid much attention, then needed to catch up and scroll up | Sep 16 22:21 |
| ThistleWeb | ahh k | Sep 16 22:21 |
| cubevector | that that age they can't even remember the pre-windows era | Sep 16 22:21 |
| cubevector | so they have no experience with anything else | Sep 16 22:21 |
| schestowitz | The first line identified it as a troll | Sep 16 22:21 |
| schestowitz | And domain (not new here) | Sep 16 22:22 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: He was funny... should let him litle more. | Sep 16 22:22 |
| schestowitz | No | Sep 16 22:22 |
| gnufreex | I mean idiotic funny. | Sep 16 22:22 |
| schestowitz | It wastes people's time | Sep 16 22:22 |
| ThistleWeb | exactly | Sep 16 22:22 |
| gnufreex | Like hommer simpson | Sep 16 22:22 |
| schestowitz | It's intdned to keep us off real discussion | Sep 16 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Like Microsoft lobbying | Sep 16 22:22 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: well I missed some of it, how old were they or whatever? | Sep 16 22:22 |
| schestowitz | And back to "my cock is bigger than yours" | Sep 16 22:22 |
| cubevector | well probably high school or college age | Sep 16 22:22 |
| ThistleWeb | you keep birds too? | Sep 16 22:22 |
| cubevector | since he talked about MSDNAA | Sep 16 22:23 |
| sebsebseb | people like that deserve to have Windows realy, and any problems that happen as a result of using it :D | Sep 16 22:23 |
| ThistleWeb | <schestowitz> And back to "my cock is bigger than yours" << sounds like a farmers boast | Sep 16 22:23 |
| sebsebseb | well pretty much | Sep 16 22:23 |
| sebsebseb | no one really deserves to have their computer part of a botnet I guess really, for example | Sep 16 22:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,but maybe Microsoft think they do, hence why they still haven't done security properly in Windows? | Sep 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/user/AndromedasWake has a good video about it | Sep 16 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - AndromedasWake's Channel .::. Size~: 102.96 KB | Sep 16 22:23 |
| cubevector | well I was going to talk about FOSS vs Windows but why even bother | Sep 16 22:24 |
| schestowitz | How the trolls just flings lots of FUD pieces all over the place | Sep 16 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Before you can address one he leaps to another | Sep 16 22:24 |
| cubevector | everyone's bored to death of that | Sep 16 22:24 |
| schestowitz | And then you have piles of FUD all over the place | Sep 16 22:24 |
| cubevector | it's still important to remember though | Sep 16 22:25 |
| cubevector | I could have asked them which operating systems they have used just out of curiousity | Sep 16 22:25 |
| schestowitz | It's like the puppy with mid | Sep 16 22:25 |
| schestowitz | It's like the puppy with mud | Sep 16 22:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Please vote for this #diaspora_bug: http://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/issue/104 !diaspora needs to move to !fs platforms. | Sep 16 22:25 | |
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| schestowitz | It keeps walking all over the place | Sep 16 22:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Windows Troll's tend to use unlicenced unpaid versions of MS software. Shills on the other hand do not. | Sep 16 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Once you clean one area it leaps on to another | Sep 16 22:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it can never lose that way | Sep 16 22:26 |
| cubevector | well, if he ever bought a windows computer he gave money to Microsoft | Sep 16 22:26 |
| cubevector | unless Microsoft gives students a no-Microsoft-tax computer | Sep 16 22:27 |
| cubevector | which I doubt | Sep 16 22:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS only gives stuff away for PR and tax purposes. | Sep 16 22:29 |
| cubevector | you know that might have been Ender | Sep 16 22:29 |
| schestowitz | No | Sep 16 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: You think the troll was Ender? I doubt it | Sep 16 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Is Ender coming back by the way? | Sep 16 22:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pope not even paying the congestion charge, in addition to getting the tax payer to pay for the visit http://bbc.in/b9bYzq !pathetic | Sep 16 22:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - London mayor requests C-charge exemption for Popemobile .::. Size~: 51.92 KB | Sep 16 22:29 |
| cubevector | he likes to pick all sorts of useless arguments | Sep 16 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | maybe the troll was DeamonFC? | Sep 16 22:30 |
| cubevector | and he went back to school | Sep 16 22:30 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: who ender? | Sep 16 22:30 |
| cubevector | yes | Sep 16 22:30 |
| ThistleWeb | the url on the whois was rev-crew.info for what it's worth | Sep 16 22:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | there's plenty of MS Trolls and shill's out there without it being anyone who has posted here before | Sep 16 22:31 |
| ThistleWeb | on the mask I mean | Sep 16 22:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Is Ender banned? | Sep 16 22:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay the speaker of #BBC World News is high, he can't even read the prompter? :| | Sep 16 22:32 | |
| cubevector | you can hide your domain but you can't hide style of conversaton | Sep 16 22:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] SCO puts Unix assets on the block http://ur1.ca/1nbgy | Sep 16 22:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SCO puts Unix assets on the block | ITworld .::. Size~: 75.13 KB | Sep 16 22:34 |
| cubevector | e,g, <Shadowww|RDP> have you paid your debt to SCO yet? | Sep 16 22:34 |
| cubevector | comments designed to annoy | Sep 16 22:34 |
| cubevector | [Shadowww|RDP] is logged in as Shadowww <-why do I see that when Ender or Shadowww logs on? | Sep 16 22:37 |
| cubevector | no one else shows up like that | Sep 16 22:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/16/android-grows-microsoft-apple-iphone-rim/ | Sep 16 22:37 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Has anybody noticed, its as if Steve Ballmer is not allowed to speak in public anymore? | Sep 16 22:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @jwildeboer wondering if attachmate has some M$ monies. The plot continues to thicken. | Sep 16 22:39 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Or is it because Ballmer has taken over two divisions of MS that Bach and Elop left vacate? | Sep 16 22:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which is why we don't get many famous Ballmer quotes lately? | Sep 16 22:39 |
| ThistleWeb | they do say if you're in legal action, say nothing | Sep 16 22:40 |
| cubevector | Ballmer's always beaking off | Sep 16 22:40 |
| ThistleWeb | given how MS operate, they're ALWAYS in legal action | Sep 16 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @lxoliva just checked, the recently-released Broadcom brcm80211 driver requires non-Free firmware :-( more linuxlibre cleaning up to do | Sep 16 22:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @reality Word of the day: Fornicatorium #lietome | Sep 16 22:40 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | But Ballmer has been very outspoken in the past | Sep 16 22:41 |
| ThistleWeb | then again, MS are a law unto themselves | Sep 16 22:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer's last chance to hang on is the Kin/2. I mean the WP7 | Sep 16 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Sad to see @sil leave after spending some time here. He is my best pal for a reason. Travel safe, mate. :-) | Sep 16 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] When Google Hates Your Name: Why We Renamed Our Startup http://ur1.ca/1nbj7 | Sep 16 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] BareMetal OS, a 64bit OS in 16kb, even can network http://ur1.ca/1nbjd | Sep 16 22:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: When Google Hates Your Name: Why We Renamed Our Startup | MassChallenge .::. Size~: 42.82 KB | Sep 16 22:42 |
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| cubevector | anyways, I was disappointed with linuxtoday and that anti-OO article saying Microsoft Office was better | Sep 16 22:44 |
| cubevector | the editor was asleep at the wheel that time | Sep 16 22:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] One thing I can't stand, every time I'm here trying to write something, #BBC is showing the sports news =_= | Sep 16 22:45 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<cubevector> anyways, I was disappointed with linuxtoday and that anti-OO article saying Microsoft Office was better" I got my Office formats mixed up a little talking with the troll before. Cubevector, have you seen some comments around the web, about how people really hate the ribbon in the newer MS Office? | Sep 16 22:47 |
| cubevector | yes | Sep 16 22:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It's not a little hate either of the ribbon, its massive. | Sep 16 22:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Myself, I have not seen the ribbon or newer MS Office. | Sep 16 22:48 |
| cubevector | never liked Microsoft office | Sep 16 22:49 |
| cubevector | it just seems so.... inelegant | Sep 16 22:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh boy oh boy | Sep 16 22:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | you guys who know mattl is right? he works for the fsf | Sep 16 22:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Me either, it always seemed uninituative, and needed many more clicks to do the same things as other word processers | Sep 16 22:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | see http://identi.ca/thejackal http://identi.ca/mattl | Sep 16 22:49 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Matt Lee (mattl) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 62.79 KB | Sep 16 22:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | so wtf is going on here | Sep 16 22:50 |
| cubevector | someone is fighting on the interwebs :) | Sep 16 22:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, but thejackal looks like some sort of anti-free software troll | Sep 16 22:51 |
| cubevector | very possible | Sep 16 22:52 |
| cubevector | some people obviously feel free software is a threat to their jobs | Sep 16 22:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, it is | Sep 16 22:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | they arent wrong | Sep 16 22:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | either you work for the consumer, or you dont have a job. | Sep 16 22:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | when the economy hits the bottom, we shake out the leeches | Sep 16 22:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you work for a leech, you lose your job | Sep 16 22:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | 'tis the way society works | Sep 16 22:55 |
| cubevector | that's a nice concise way of putting it :) | Sep 16 22:56 |
| cubevector | sometimes I get paid just to do a windows reload | Sep 16 22:57 |
| cubevector | but I always offer to make it dual-boot for no extra money | Sep 16 22:58 |
| cubevector | the concept that there are free alternatives to doze hasn't quite sunk in yet | Sep 16 22:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SCO is Selling UNIX® Assets and #Novell (UNIX® Owner) is Selling Too http://ur1.ca/1nbob #unix #suse | Sep 16 22:59 | |
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| cubevector | Haiku isn't bad, you could do all the basic stuff with it | Sep 16 23:00 |
| cubevector | AROS just isn't ready yet | Sep 16 23:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Novell's Patents Are Complicating Its Sale (GigaOm) http://lwn.net/Articles/405804/rss | Sep 16 23:00 | |
| cubevector | I blame the schools mostly | Sep 16 23:00 |
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| Diablo-D3 | cubevector: the big problem is world society doesnt get it | Sep 16 23:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, lets say you're laid off in india | Sep 16 23:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | you're thrown out of society | Sep 16 23:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | you werent fired, and you didnt do anything wrong | Sep 16 23:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they dont get how US/European economic models work | Sep 16 23:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | but in India, if your company is downsized, and you're eliminated, its somehow your fault | Sep 16 23:01 |
| cubevector | well that must really suck | Sep 16 23:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just because their society is, frankly, in the fucking dark ages | Sep 16 23:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, it sucks because they dont get it | Sep 16 23:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | if they wanna work for western-styled companies, its how shit works | Sep 16 23:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !fsfe is http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/petition.en.html really meant for only Europeans to sign? | Sep 16 23:02 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | I mean, hell, wasnt it in india or pakistan that they got their first stock market, and everybody bought a bunch of shares in shitty companies, and then all the shitty companies went under and they lost everything, and they started throwing rocks at the stock market building yelling at them to give their money back? | Sep 16 23:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | even though they were told up front they can lose their money, its the nature of how investing works | Sep 16 23:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | nutty people | Sep 16 23:04 |
| cubevector | high population density means more problems | Sep 16 23:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | not necessarily | Sep 16 23:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is no upwards limit of how many people can live somewhere | Sep 16 23:04 |
| cubevector | just less resources to go around Diablo-D3 | Sep 16 23:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | its based, purely, on their technology level | Sep 16 23:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/09/13/microsoft.may.detail.zunes.fate.at.wp7.launch/ | Sep 16 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Zune HD future may be revealed in October | Electronista .::. Size~: 85.51 KB | Sep 16 23:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | india has very low technology due to massive government corruption | Sep 16 23:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They should just bury the Zune, its a cash sink. | Sep 16 23:05 |
| cubevector | less infrastucture | Sep 16 23:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | infrastructure is technology. | Sep 16 23:05 |
| cubevector | yeah there's more than one problem | Sep 16 23:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: you know what fucked the zune? they had multiple OSes | Sep 16 23:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Nobody wants a Zune, unless its those two people who bought Kin's. | Sep 16 23:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: they have win mobile, they have zune os, and they have wince | Sep 16 23:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: and they sell all and develop all | Sep 16 23:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they all use unrelated code bases | Sep 16 23:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I went to Walmart and looked at the Zune recently | Sep 16 23:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | see the problem here? | Sep 16 23:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | they pay 3x more and get 1/3rd of the product. | Sep 16 23:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | why do you think android took off so much? | Sep 16 23:06 |
| cubevector | probably there are these multiple camps in Microsoft, one for each OS and they don't communicate :) | Sep 16 23:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | everyone runs the same OS no matter what the device does. | Sep 16 23:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubevector: this is what Im saying | Sep 16 23:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 16 gb and only one model. It was it the case next to a Sony 16gb model. | Sep 16 23:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | its nuts | Sep 16 23:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | zune could have easily taken off if everything ran ONE os | Sep 16 23:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh | Sep 16 23:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | $199 for the Zune, and $119 for the Sony. | Sep 16 23:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | and there was that other thing | Sep 16 23:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | that phone thing | Sep 16 23:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] GODAMNIT what part of "kill Nautilus" means "restart nautilus and take over my fucking menu again? | Sep 16 23:07 | |
| Diablo-D3 | that died in under a month | Sep 16 23:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | and sold like a thousand | Sep 16 23:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | that used a FOURTH os | Sep 16 23:07 |
| cubevector | Microsoft is good at killing OSes | Sep 16 23:08 |
| cubevector | except for Unix (and *nix like) it seems | Sep 16 23:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS wanted its Zune to compete with Apple, which is more expensive. But it also has to compete with many other MP3 players that go for a lot less, and has to do it not as market leader (like windows) but as an also ran. | Sep 16 23:10 |
| cubevector | yeah | Sep 16 23:11 |
| cubevector | Microsoft got outmarketed and out done | Sep 16 23:11 |
| cubevector | whatever, I'm happy with my zaurus :) | Sep 16 23:12 |
| cubevector | I don't need another phone bill | Sep 16 23:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So the Zune is getting hit price wise by the Apple Ipod at the top end, and the clones at the low end. Sort of like how Windows is now declining with Macs taking away many expensive top end sales of laptops, and Linux and Android on the low end. | Sep 16 23:12 |
| cubevector | too bad the trolls aren't declining | Sep 16 23:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I expect Ballmer will continue to sell and lose money for Microsoft with the Zune in October. | Sep 16 23:13 |
| cubevector | well the days of Microsoft controlling everything are over, thankfully | Sep 16 23:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer cannot be seen (IMO) retreating on the main projects of expansion for MS. It would almost seem to be a personal thing. | Sep 16 23:14 |
| cubevector | it's a major phase shift | Sep 16 23:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @bananabob: " #BBC News - Supplements for #osteoarthritis 'do not work'" from goo.gl/gmVi #health #silver | Sep 16 23:15 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Even though the Zune is a tiny piece of the MS pie, withdrawing the product would spell the decline at Microsoft out very clearly. | Sep 16 23:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Zune could become the next Kin in actuality. | Sep 16 23:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or WP7 | Sep 16 23:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Next of Kin | Sep 16 23:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | dead | Sep 16 23:17 |
| cubevector | notify the next of kin :) | Sep 16 23:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | call Redmond? | Sep 16 23:17 |
| cubevector | I think it's kind of funny out computers turned out | Sep 16 23:18 |
| cubevector | I should be using the new Amiga 10000 now | Sep 16 23:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I would still like to have a Sun Ray laptop | Sep 16 23:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Debian on it | Sep 16 23:19 |
| cubevector | you could get one of those sparcbooks | Sep 16 23:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | is the Sun Ray sparc, I think so | Sep 16 23:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sparc books is what I mean | Sep 16 23:20 |
| cubevector | ah | Sep 16 23:20 |
| cubevector | not familiar with Sun Ray | Sep 16 23:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think that was the newest | Sep 16 23:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @lxoliva this campaign is international, but !fsfe will follow-up only EU-related reports. http://identi.ca/notice/50630295 | Sep 16 23:20 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "The Zune has remained at roughly two percent of US MP3 player share virtually since the start despite newer models, lower prices and unique features like on-demand music streaming." | Sep 16 23:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @osamak it's not about the reports, just the petition against govts' advertising of specific (non-Free) PDF readers | Sep 16 23:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Petition For The Removal Of Proprietary Software Advertising On Government Websites http://goo.gl/9Css via @kevie | Sep 16 23:24 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Zune, MP3 player without a future? | Sep 16 23:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ok, later everyone, carry on doing what you do so well. | Sep 16 23:26 |
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| cubevector | btw the AROS folks were using the name zune first :) | Sep 16 23:27 |
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| Diablo-D3 | yes, and they should have sued | Sep 16 23:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Was reminded today again of Van Halen's 'Jump' when the keyboard backing tape is slightly out of tune - http://is.gd/fe11G - comedy! | Sep 16 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @lxoliva In the AR translation, I replaced the list with a text field. @karsten, is it possible to change this in the original page? | Sep 16 23:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Van Halen really screws up "Jump" .::. Size~: 102.69 KB | Sep 16 23:29 |
| cubevector | the perfect computer isn't here yet | Sep 16 23:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hey @mattl is thejackal some sort of anti-FOSS troll or something? | Sep 16 23:34 | |
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| tessier | sebsebseb: Sorry, I wasn't about. | Sep 16 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: ok well nevermind | Sep 16 23:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva So as long as you are powerless or uninformed about the closed source there's no ethical problem? | Sep 16 23:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What is the roadmap for !choqok, @mtux? Are we headed for release v1.0 in Maverick? Or will it take longer? (Suffering missing tray icon) | Sep 16 23:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I haven't reported the missing tray icon for !choqok, @mtux, because I've read elsewhere it's Qt4 bug? | Sep 16 23:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Bojangles FTW. | Sep 16 23:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s Patent Lobby and Scott Cleland as Anti-Google Weapon http://ur1.ca/1nc5w #google #lobby #pr | Sep 16 23:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink no, I think you're assuming a different scenario in between the two extremes I posed | Sep 16 23:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink there's probably no ethical problem when the stuff is actually in hardware, like a printed circuit | Sep 16 23:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink there's clearly an ethical problem when the software is so exposed to the user that the user needs to upload it every time | Sep 16 23:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva But these days it almost always gets there by being compiled from code... | Sep 16 23:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva I'm suggesting that exactly that boundary is nowhere near as crisp as it appears, and absolutist approaches to binaries are risky | Sep 16 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink the point is, what are the freedoms that are being denied by not offering access to source code? | Sep 16 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink you appear to be taking open sources as goal, rather than as means to freedoms 1 and 3 | Sep 16 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink but if you can't exercise freedoms 1 and 3, not because they won't let you, but because it's just not possible, no loss | Sep 16 23:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva When a CPU is supplied without corresponding source I am unable to study, modify and distribute (FPGAs make this feasible) | Sep 16 23:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink where do you assume the boundary appears, crisply, to me? note I didn't draw any line, I just mentioned two extremes | Sep 16 23:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Only lack of skill prevents exercise of all 4 freedoms these days with chips. | Sep 16 23:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @jonobacon happy birthday. Sweet 30. :) | Sep 16 23:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink so, there you go, this is one case in which denying sources is actually harmful, thus unethical | Sep 16 23:57 | |
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| yuhong | http://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/depct/and_now_for_a_word_from_our_sponsor_because_for/ | Sep 16 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ...and now for a word from our sponsor (because for once we have one *asking* to hear your feedback). : blog .::. Size~: 573.39 KB | Sep 16 23:58 |
| yuhong | In the meantime, MS continues to spread FUD against open source: | Sep 16 23:58 |
| yuhong | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/09/16/2052244/Microsofts-Chief-Exec-For-Latin-America-Says-Open-Means-Incompetent | Sep 16 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Linux Story | Microsoft's Chief Exec For Latin America Says 'Open' Means 'Incompetent' .::. Size~: 136.02 KB | Sep 16 23:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva So you will decry all use of hardware supplied without source as you do BroadCom's driver blobs? | Sep 16 23:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink so you seem to be inclined to regard every piece of hardware without corresponding sources as unethical, is that so? | Sep 16 23:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink if what you say is true, then I'd be inclined to agree with this proposition | Sep 16 23:59 | |
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