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schestowitztessier: under maintenance now, right?Oct 10 00:02
tessierYepOct 10 00:06
tessierProxy machine is doing a lengthy fsck since it has been running for so long since the last fsck.Oct 10 00:07
tessierShould be done any moment nowOct 10 00:07
schestowitzthanks so muchOct 10 00:09
tessierLooks like we're back up.Oct 10 00:12
tessierAnother short blip...just a sec.Oct 10 00:19
schestowitzOKOct 10 00:22
schestowitzsee the next three postsOct 10 00:23
schestowitz2 dead divisions, benefits off at MSFTOct 10 00:23
schestowitzI never thought the demise can be so suddenOct 10 00:23
schestowitzMy family is on lInux and convincing people to use it got very easy.... no fight against Flash like 6 years ago.Oct 10 00:24
schestowitz"Please Techrights, make good titles for your articles or I will surely remove you from my Google Reader subscription." http://twitter.com/azzorcist/statuses/26855051792Oct 10 00:51
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schestowitzI try to make headline descriptive and longOct 10 00:51
tessierschestowitz: Fight against flash?Oct 10 01:16
tessierAny truth to the rumor that MS might buy Adobe (and therefore flash)?Oct 10 01:16
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FurnaceBoytessier: it is true that it is a rumour.Oct 10 02:28
FurnaceBoytessier: apparently there was a ceo/ceo meeting. SLashdot has a story about it. but that's all anyone knows.Oct 10 02:28
FurnaceBoyif there were a benevolent god, he'd make them both die of advanced syphilis before any such deal were signed.Oct 10 02:29
FurnaceBoybut...oracle bought sun..so i guess there's not.Oct 10 02:31
Ender2012at least we know we can't trust javaOct 10 02:32
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abeNd-orgfunny how people are fawning over adobe flash & adobe air for the android phones, & both are supposed to come out on webos as wellOct 10 04:03
oiaohmabeNd-org: for the timing being flash is required.Oct 10 04:05
oiaohmNothice that no one responded over sliverlight annoncements.Oct 10 04:05
oiaohmAlso abeNd-org found one of the library difference here.  http://koha.org/  ils used different and it don't intergrate with windows.Oct 10 04:11
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Welcome to koha.org! — Koha - Open Source ILS - Integrated Library System .::. Size~: 29.06 KBOct 10 04:11
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schestowitz"þank you, but I am still in ðe dark on Michael Moore receiveing shutup money. Not ðat I like ðe guy, it just seems strange." http://twitter.com/leandrod/statuses/26901976752Oct 10 05:08
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schestowitzI heard from someone at dinner a couple of nights ago that companies would sponsor Moore so that he doesn't expose themOct 10 05:09
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/55202046 "I am thinking about giving #sabayon @#linux a try."Oct 10 05:11
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schestowitz_Goblin uses itOct 10 05:11
schestowitztessier: no basis for the rumour was shownOct 10 05:11
tessierGoodOct 10 05:22
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it sounds like the sort of stuff right wing nutjobs make up so as never to have to deal with Moore's messageOct 10 06:51
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: I've heard that kind of stuff for yearsOct 10 06:51
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: same thing with GoreOct 10 06:51
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it's just stuff they choose to believe because the alternative is tougherOct 10 06:52
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: also, it's projection of base motives; a.k.a. "cyuicism"Oct 10 06:52
FurnaceBoycynicism*Oct 10 06:52
*FurnaceBoy waves niteOct 10 06:52
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/djx50/pew_forum_on_religious_life_asks_3412_americans/   http://www10.nytimes.com.nyud.net/2010/09/28/us/28religion.html?_r=5Oct 10 11:45
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schestowitzHmmm,,, server down?Oct 10 12:05
MinceRwhich one?Oct 10 12:07
schestowitztechrightsOct 10 12:07
schestowitzEverything tied to it is downOct 10 12:07
schestowitzeven tessierOct 10 12:07
MinceRwho tied tessier to the server? :>Oct 10 12:07
schestowitzMaybe maintenance, but 4am on a Sunday?Oct 10 12:07
MinceRthe website does seem to be downOct 10 12:07
schestowitzSince 15 minutes agoOct 10 12:08
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FurnaceBoylol@ MinceR | who tied tessier to the serverOct 10 17:22
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MinceRhttp://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1803Oct 10 19:43
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schestowitzonnection flake todayOct 10 20:57
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schestowitz"Ystrday at #LinuxFestJo, I had a chat w/ the Egyptian Googler Noha Salem, and the more she talked the more I hated Google. #TBH" http://twitter.com/Omar_S_Hafez/status/26954978922Oct 10 22:01
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schestowitzTrolls still acting badly... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/8772bc300e01ef2c/ba8c220db5fac812Oct 10 22:09
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schestowitz"Tim Smith" stalker...Oct 10 22:09
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schestowitzhttp://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/10/07/Robot-RoadOct 11 07:52
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: bit of schadenfreude on miguel's part. http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/27083590582Oct 12 02:41
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / TT: RT @migueldeicaza #IBM sta ... .::. Size~: 12.91 KBOct 12 02:41
qu1j0t3and yeah, to hell with that assOct 12 02:41
qu1j0t3jweyrich: boa noiteOct 12 02:42
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:jweyrich!~jweyrich@200-203-48-129.nhoce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :qu1j0t3: ola! tudo bem?
:qu1j0t3!~qu1j0t3@bas2-toronto10-2925235772.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :tudo .. tô trabalhando risos
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:qu1j0t3!~qu1j0t3@bas2-toronto10-2925235772.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :hoje tava sentindo triste pq nunca tirei algumas fotos boas de nosso escritório decorado (pt?)
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:qu1j0t3!~qu1j0t3@bas2-toronto10-2925235772.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :só tenho algumas piores
:qu1j0t3!~qu1j0t3@bas2-toronto10-2925235772.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :com as cores que eu escolhi
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schestowitzqu1j0t3 hiOct 12 02:51
schestowitzYes, not the firstOct 12 02:51
schestowitzHe only jumps into the fray when Microsoft is seen as good from someone else's attackOct 12 02:51
schestowitzSame when it was OracleOct 12 02:51
schestowitzAnd TurboHerculesOct 12 02:52
schestowitzThat's how all mobbyists behaveOct 12 02:52
schestowitzBeehiveOct 12 02:52
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schestowitz[02:56] <jweyrich> qu1j0t3: I'm fine, thanks.Oct 12 02:56
schestowitzBTW..Oct 12 02:56
schestowitzI'm quiet on IRC for another day or so, maybe till the morningOct 12 02:57
jweyrichqu1j0t3: I didn't work today.. was tooooo lazy :-( but I taught some BSD socket things to a friend.Oct 12 02:57
jweyrichschestowitz: no worries. I don't like talking to you that much anyway. LMAO.Oct 12 02:57
jweyrichkidding :-)Oct 12 02:57
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: this was a double win for him. he gets to make insinuations against IBM; and at the same time do a happy dance because Java is a major competitor to the product he sells (.Net).Oct 12 03:00
qu1j0t3schestowitz: he's such an irritating p.o.s. that I feel like ditching gnome due to its association with himOct 12 03:01
jweyrichqu1j0t3: any big news on mariadb?Oct 12 03:02
FurnaceBoyjweyrich: i've been out of it, not watching the chanOct 12 03:07
FurnaceBoyjweyrich: tbh since the oracle purchase i think i'll switch to postgresqlOct 12 03:07
jweyrichgood call IMO.Oct 12 03:07
FurnaceBoyjweyrich: some of oracle's moves have really pissed me offOct 12 03:07
FurnaceBoyjweyrich: i don't trust them at all, greedy assholesOct 12 03:07
FurnaceBoyjweyrich: and i'm saying this as somebody who was optimistic, beforehandOct 12 03:08
jweyrichoh well, mysql is strong still, and I hope it to stay like this, but I wouldn't put my coins on the cause.Oct 12 03:08
FurnaceBoyjweyrich: yeah, of course i am still interested in the nosql spaceOct 12 03:08
FurnaceBoyjweyrich: voltdb is pretty intriguingOct 12 03:08
FurnaceBoyjweyrich: right, judging by what oracle has already done to java and solaris, it looks like mysql is headed for a cliffOct 12 03:09
jweyrichlet's hope they have the minimum capacity to perceive that mysql is one of the last open-source products that keep the company's image from being totally blured.Oct 12 03:12
FurnaceBoyi've lost my trustOct 12 03:14
jweyrichbtw, let me pvt you for an off-topic tech question.Oct 12 03:15
FurnaceBoyand when i say that, people goggle and say, "you ever had any? oracle are scum!"Oct 12 03:15
FurnaceBoysureOct 12 03:15
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MinceRhttp://failblog.org/2010/10/11/epic-fail-photos-caution-win/Oct 12 09:37
TechrightsBot-scTitle:   Caution WIN - Epic Fail Funny Videos and Funny Pictures .::. Size~: 100.79 KBOct 12 09:37
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MinceRdoes jono ever dent about anything other than his Vista7 Band?Oct 12 09:50
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schestowitzNot anymoreOct 12 10:02
schestowitzOh nice...Oct 12 10:13
schestowitz"Oct 12 10:13
schestowitzDear Dr. Schestowitz:Oct 12 10:13
schestowitz Oct 12 10:13
schestowitzMy name is Tony Whitcomb.  In 1996, I developed the direct sales and marketing model for the below Internet start-up called, AdverWorld.Oct 12 10:13
schestowitz Oct 12 10:13
schestowitzExpotera, is the 2010 version of AdverWorld, and Expotera, is currently being held, "Hostage" by the world's largest software company Microsoft, with the full blessing, permission, and knowledge, of the President of the United States, Barack Obama,Oct 12 10:13
schestowitzand his Administration, and the entire world now needs to know about all of this.Oct 12 10:13
schestowitz Oct 12 10:13
schestowitzDr. Schestowitz, I deeply appreciate and I sincerely thank you, for putting our, "Microsoft Whistleblowing" story on your, "TECHRIGHTS" Website and I wish you nothing but continued peace, prosperity, and success, in all of your current and future endeavors.Oct 12 10:13
schestowitz Oct 12 10:13
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qu1j0t3http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2010/10/facebook-may-be-making-strides.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssOct 12 14:51
TechrightsBot-scTitle: "Deleted" Facebook photos still not deleted: a followup .::. Size~: 29.04 KBOct 12 14:51
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MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/2010-10-10/Oct 12 15:50
TechrightsBot-scTitle: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 20.51 KBOct 12 15:50
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: wbOct 12 17:03
schestowitzo/Oct 12 17:03
schestowitz"One of our readers, FurnaceBoy, says that the Huff & Puff is doing it again with Gates (we wrote many posts about Huffington and Gates)."Oct 12 17:04
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/10/12/consensual-monopolisation-with-abc/Oct 12 17:04
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Bill Gates Buys ABC (News/TV), Schools | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.17 KBOct 12 17:04
qu1j0t3schestowitz: they syndicate Melinda Gates in a column.Oct 12 17:04
qu1j0t3as well as Billion himself.Oct 12 17:05
*qu1j0t3 vomitsOct 12 17:05
schestowitzYesOct 12 17:06
schestowitzGood luck fighting that...Oct 12 17:06
schestowitzI'm gotten tiredOct 12 17:06
schestowitzHundreds of hour spent learning and writing about BillOct 12 17:06
schestowitzI  got tens of thousands of views for it, maybe hundreds of thousands soonOct 12 17:07
schestowitzAnd knowledge spreads mouth-to-ear tooOct 12 17:07
schestowitzI got cited in some radio shows and stuff re GatesOct 12 17:07
schestowitzFor each hour this type of people are exposed by people they can spend $100 bribing some reporter to write an article praising themOct 12 17:09
qu1j0t3yes.Oct 12 17:09
qu1j0t3i know, it's tiring. i don't know how to fight it.Oct 12 17:09
schestowitz[which is a tad depressing when you think about it]Oct 12 17:09
schestowitzI want to expose the channelsOct 12 17:09
schestowitzMy strategy has changdOct 12 17:09
qu1j0t3yes...Oct 12 17:09
schestowitzI give people tool to assess mediaOct 12 17:09
qu1j0t3that's why i now tweet about HPOct 12 17:09
schestowitzThis way, for example, you treat CNN like Pravda when it cover IraqOct 12 17:10
qu1j0t3i always did.Oct 12 17:10
qu1j0t3nyt same.Oct 12 17:10
schestowitzI go like, "ha! the Iraq propaganda... from CNN!"Oct 12 17:10
qu1j0t3it was always obviousOct 12 17:10
qu1j0t3i remember from gulf war IOct 12 17:10
qu1j0t3and falklands, i believeOct 12 17:10
schestowitzSOme people smile, some are not used to the ideaOct 12 17:10
qu1j0t3same shitOct 12 17:10
qu1j0t3didn't 'embedding' tip anyone off????Oct 12 17:10
schestowitzTHat too...Oct 12 17:11
schestowitzI didn't know about it until after I had started my Ph.D.Oct 12 17:11
schestowitzI first got exposed to history some eyars ago.. real historyOct 12 17:11
schestowitzSchool does not teach history, it should be renamed patriotism classOct 12 17:12
schestowitzYou get trained to be docile to one's heritage and Texas makes it more extreme in the US right nowOct 12 17:12
qu1j0t3TX and othersOct 12 17:13
schestowitz"It allll started in Texas"Oct 12 17:14
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roy_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5ZTv1ZK7Q8Oct 12 17:30
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     YouTube        - TEXAS BANS TEH BUTTSECKS   .::. Size~: 136.64 KBOct 12 17:30
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TechrightsBot-scHello World!Oct 12 20:40
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MinceR(flash) (video) http://www.thoughtware.tv/videos/watch/5426Oct 13 20:43
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schestowitz_logWow. The US goes bonker in place..Oct 14 03:40
schestowitz_logSubject: Fwd: Tech Rights: Microsoft WhistleblowingOct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log> Dear Dr. Schestowitz:Oct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log> Oct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log> Microsoft and the Obama Administration, are now in full attack andOct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log> retaliation mode against me and I desperately need your or someonesOct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log> help.  In less than 16 hours, I am going to be deliberately left flatOct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log> broke and homeless, and without any Internet connectivity or access to aOct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log> working telephone, so I hope to somehow connect with you, before I amOct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log> left totally communication less over here in America.Oct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log>  Oct 14 03:41
schestowitz_log> Sincerely,Oct 14 03:41
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/55490996#notice-55967842Oct 14 03:42
schestowitz "@schestowitz: It can be a very bad thing. Sounds like they will not be giving over to LibreOffice. You've seen their suit against google?"Oct 14 03:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/55487464#notice-56007763 "I hope you didn't mean the girls/boys ratio was normal. 36:1 is pretty leaning even for Computer Science."Oct 14 03:44
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schestowitzHmm.. in Linux/GNU development.. well, I meant to comments about the beards at first, added the girl part later, separatelyOct 14 03:45
oiaohmLot of people don't get it.Oct 14 03:57
oiaohmI want the open fight between libreoffice and openofficeOct 14 03:58
oiaohmFor years we had go-oo on linux distributions dressed up as openofficeOct 14 03:58
oiaohmAt least now it will be a out in the open battle.Oct 14 03:58
oiaohmThe results can only be good for the functionality of open source office suites.Oct 14 03:58
oiaohmOpenOffice got lazy because it had nothing really to fight against.Oct 14 03:59
schestowitzIt's needed for tabletsOct 14 04:59
schestowitzMobile devicesOct 14 04:59
schestowitzNo persistent connection = no 'cloud'Oct 14 04:59
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schestowitz_log[13:21] <Diablo-D3> so, that lefty dudeOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:21] <Diablo-D3> nenolod thinks he never worked at appleOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:22] <Diablo-D3> lefty said, for example, he worked on code that made the macintosh II do nubus network cards.... but no 68k mac ever shipped with nubus, and the mac II had no expansion slots.Oct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:23] <schestowitz> I think he's a marketing dunce onlyOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:23] <Diablo-D3> he said he was a coderOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:23] <Diablo-D3> and hes notOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:23] <schestowitz> He's a megalomaniac and was shown to exaggerate his importanceOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:23] <Diablo-D3> also, nenolod knows a few people who lefty would have at least metOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:23] <schestowitz> No, he's no coderOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:23] <Diablo-D3> they've never heard of himOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:23] <schestowitz> His only education is from come obcure college... in threatre... BAOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:24] <schestowitz> He sure knows how to /act/Oct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:25] <roy_> fell offlineOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:25] <roy_> last seen;Oct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:25] <roy_> [13:23] <Diablo-D3> they've never heard of himOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:25] <roy_> [13:23] <schestowitz> His only education is from come obcure college... in threatre... BAOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:25] <roy_> [13:24] <schestowitz> He sure knows how to /act/Oct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:25] <Diablo-D3> hehOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:25] <Diablo-D3> [08:24:02] <Diablo-D3> http://www.linkedin.com/in/schlesingerOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:25] <Diablo-D3> [08:24:32] <Diablo-D3> it lists a bunch of education for him if you have a linkedin accountOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:25] <Diablo-D3> [08:25:04] <Diablo-D3> as far as anyone can tell, he NEVER worked for appleOct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:26] <roy_> Did you write more?Oct 14 14:04
schestowitz_log[13:26] <Diablo-D3> no thats itOct 14 14:04
TechrightsBot-scTitle: David Schlesinger - LinkedIn  .::. Size~: 25.9 KBOct 14 14:05
MinceRit would be nice (if possible) to publish an article exposing lefty for the fraud he isOct 14 14:05
schestowitz_logHe might not like itOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:26] <roy_> Last I got was [13:23] <Diablo-D3> they've never heard of himOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:26] <Diablo-D3> I just pasted it =POct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:26] <roy_> Worth finding out if he worked for AppleOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:26] <Diablo-D3> nenolod thinks he didntOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:26] <roy_> He made claims like bossing many people there, IIRCOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:27] <Diablo-D3> yeah, which means SOMEBODY would have heard of himOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:27] <Diablo-D3> nenolod knows a few people at apple, and they couldnt find any trace hew as ever thereOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:28] <roy_> He claims to know JobsOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:28] <roy_> Drops many names to make himself look important and respectedOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:28] <Diablo-D3> well, the guy has said at least two things to nenolod that fail the basic wikipedia fact checkOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:29] <Diablo-D3> [06:39:14] <nenolod> "If you used Open Transport or AppleTalk Remote Access on a Mac between Mac OS 8.1 and Mac OS 9.x, you used code written by the team I managed."Oct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:29] <Diablo-D3> thats the other partOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:29] <Diablo-D3> [06:39:38] <nenolod> too bad that MacOS 8.1 did not come with eitherOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:29] <Diablo-D3> [06:39:45] <nenolod> and MacOS 9 was released after he left appleOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:29] <Diablo-D3> [06:39:51] <nenolod> or claims to have left appleOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:30] <Diablo-D3> soOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:30] <Diablo-D3> who the fuck is this doucheOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:31] <roy_> Maybe he distorted somethingOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:31] <roy_> Inflation of one's roleOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:31] <Diablo-D3> I agree with nenolod on thisOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:31] <Diablo-D3> he most likely never worked for appleOct 14 14:08
schestowitz_log[13:31] <roy_> He's compulsiveOct 14 14:08
MinceR"he" being lefty or Diablo-D3?Oct 14 14:09
schestowitz_logDavidOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:31] <Diablo-D3> this is probably why he got fired from access, they put two and two togetherOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:31] <Diablo-D3> btw, did you ever read that comment thread on his site?Oct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:31] <roy_> If you want some psychopath on your tail with death threat, this is your dudeOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:32] <Diablo-D3> heh, nenolod sent trelane to go speak with himOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:32] <roy_> I can't access his site, I've told you earlierOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:32] <Diablo-D3> trelane is also a psychopath, but he somewhat makes good on his threatsOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:32] <Diablo-D3> use torOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:32] <roy_> I've never come across people like theseOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:32] <roy_> There are a few moreOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <roy_> Like satellites of the same groupsOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <Diablo-D3> well, you're a lightning rod for fucktardsOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <roy_> From COLA/USENETOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <Diablo-D3> get used to itOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <roy_> A group of blackmail/intimidationOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <Diablo-D3> too bad their shit doesnt work on meOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <Diablo-D3> I've delt with assholes like this beforeOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <roy_> PZ Myers puts it nicelyOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <Diablo-D3> and so has nenolodOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <roy_> He gets all the ultra-religious nutterOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <roy_> Trying to get him fired and scared and stuffOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[13:33] <roy_> he laughs it offOct 14 14:14
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schestowitz_log[13:50] <Diablo-D3> it is pretty funnyOct 14 14:14
schestowitz_log[14:14] <roy_> DavidOct 14 14:14
oiaohmHmm did the nubus network cards have parrell suport.Oct 14 14:15
MinceRi think lefty not liking it is part of the pointOct 14 14:15
oiaohmI know I had some 10 speed network cards that connected to printer ports.Oct 14 14:17
oiaohmThat could be connected to some of the old insane machines.Oct 14 14:18
oiaohmIe full speed threw printer port was only 4mbs so they could be flooded and made fail.Oct 14 14:18
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oiaohmHmm MinceR Diablo-D3 errored.  http://lowendmac.com/ii/macintosh-ii.htmlOct 14 14:23
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oiaohmThe true Mac II has 6 nubus slots.Oct 14 14:23
MinceRicOct 14 14:24
oiaohmhttp://lowendmac.com/ii/macintosh-iisi.html  But this was way more common.Oct 14 14:24
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Mac IIsi .::. Size~: 34.08 KBOct 14 14:24
oiaohmThat had none.Oct 14 14:25
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FurnaceBoywell, the IIsi was much later.Oct 14 15:33
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FurnaceBoyoiaohm | Hmm did the nubus network cards have parrell suport. <-- what do you mean?Oct 14 15:34
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FurnaceBoythe only Mac NuBus network cards i saw were 10-Base2 and 10-BaseTOct 14 15:36
FurnaceBoythough there were token ring, etcOct 14 15:36
oiaohmFurnaceBoy: nubus was reminding me of a brand.Oct 14 15:36
oiaohmOf really odd network cards.Oct 14 15:37
FurnaceBoythat used Centronics port...Oct 14 15:37
oiaohmYep.Oct 14 15:37
FurnaceBoyi never saw this for NuBus, i doubt it existed b/c the market would have been too small.Oct 14 15:37
oiaohmCould also work on d25 ports.Oct 14 15:37
FurnaceBoyNuBus cards - very expensive to develop in the 80sOct 14 15:37
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oiaohmNuBus is somethign different.Oct 14 15:38
MinceRn00busOct 14 15:38
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FurnaceBoyoh i see. i thought you were asking if there was a nubus adapter to this weird network.Oct 14 15:38
oiaohmMind you it was one of the most unless network cards.Oct 14 15:43
oiaohm4 mb/s for a 10 mb/s link.Oct 14 15:43
oiaohmIf you sent true 10 mb/s at it the bugger simple failed and reset.Oct 14 15:43
oiaohmSo they were what you called highly independanble evil.Oct 14 15:43
FurnaceBoyroy_: I guess u saw this already http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/10/14/0315209Oct 14 15:43
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MinceRoiaohm: in other words, standard crApple fare? :>Oct 14 15:48
oiaohmNo these were a thrid party maker.  MinceROct 14 15:49
oiaohmYou could use the evil with dos as well. MinceROct 14 15:49
MinceRoh, so this has nothing to do with n00busOct 14 15:49
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oiaohmYep just name is close.  MinceROct 14 15:59
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schestowitzThings are going south in the US....Oct 14 19:53
schestowitzJust got this from someone whom I once linked to;Oct 14 19:54
schestowitz> Dear Dr Schestowitz:Oct 14 19:54
schestowitz>Oct 14 19:54
schestowitz> Today I was evicted from my home of the past 6 years by the localOct 14 19:54
schestowitz> authorities, and all of my employment records have now mysteriouslyOct 14 19:54
schestowitz> disappeared and I am no longer eligible to apply or collect U.S. FederalOct 14 19:54
schestowitz> Government Unemployment Insurance, to try to cover my daily living expenses.Oct 14 19:54
schestowitz>Oct 14 19:54
schestowitz> To be honest, my current situation over here in the United States ofOct 14 19:54
schestowitz> America, is rather desperate and very uncertain and even though Dr.Oct 14 19:54
schestowitz> Schetowitz, you do not personally know me, could you please provide meOct 14 19:54
schestowitz> with any type of help or assistance in seeking, "Refugee ImmigrationOct 14 19:54
schestowitz> Status" into your home Country at this present time, to enable me toOct 14 19:54
schestowitz> give you and your colleagues the full business plans for Expotera, inOct 14 19:54
schestowitz> hopes of seeing Expotera re-launched under new ownership someday, evenOct 14 19:54
schestowitz> if I personally never live to see this day.Oct 14 19:54
FurnaceBoyyaOct 14 19:56
FurnaceBoybanana republicOct 14 19:56
FurnaceBoywell, they earned itOct 14 19:56
FurnaceBoybought and paid for :DOct 14 19:56
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: what would you do?Oct 14 19:56
schestowitzI feel bad ignoring himOct 14 19:57
schestowitzhe send me like 6 of thoseOct 14 19:57
FurnaceBoyhow well do you know him?Oct 14 19:57
schestowitzAnd I never spoke to himOct 14 19:57
FurnaceBoythen it's a bit impossible for yuo to help any immigration process.Oct 14 19:57
FurnaceBoybut he has no hope of meeting any refugee criterion.Oct 14 19:57
schestowitzI know others in his situationsOct 14 19:57
FurnaceBoyhe should know that.Oct 14 19:57
FurnaceBoyhe can come to canadaOct 14 19:57
schestowitzIt's scary what happened in the StatesOct 14 19:57
schestowitzLike nomadsOct 14 19:58
FurnaceBoyit sounds like he doesn't know his optionsOct 14 19:58
FurnaceBoyreply and say that Canada or Mexico are likely his best optionsOct 14 19:58
schestowitzOKOct 14 19:58
FurnaceBoyhe would never ever have hope of refugee status in an english speaking country, or any other country, really.Oct 14 19:58
schestowitzBut then he might send me loads of mailOct 14 19:58
FurnaceBoyjust make it short and say that for further immigration advice he needs to contact an expert.Oct 14 19:59
schestowitzHe probably knows these rights alreadyOct 14 19:59
FurnaceBoydoubtfulOct 14 19:59
schestowitzFfrankly, I don't think Mexico would be betterOct 14 19:59
FurnaceBoythe idea that he could be a refugee to the UK shows pretty deep ignorance of immigrationOct 14 19:59
schestowitzhe might be better off in some US villages than in bad areas outside the USOct 14 19:59
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: yeah it's a close call. a lot of mexico is safe and liveable though.Oct 14 20:00
schestowitzImagine that...Oct 14 20:00
FurnaceBoyand there's always canada. he has good options.Oct 14 20:00
schestowitzUSians dying in the desertOct 14 20:00
FurnaceBoyhe can get into canada with his passport.Oct 14 20:00
schestowitzTrying to flee to Mexico overnightOct 14 20:00
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it's all expected, isn't it?Oct 14 20:00
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: I'm not surprised at all.Oct 14 20:00
schestowitzDesperate to reach Mexico via NevadaOct 14 20:00
FurnaceBoyit's the only way they'll learn their lessonsOct 14 20:00
schestowitzArmed and dangerous some of themOct 14 20:01
schestowitzEven if they lose the house+car they keep the gun, like DaemonFCOct 14 20:01
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schestowitzNothing to lose-ers can be dangerous if they groupOct 14 20:02
schestowitzCould march unless the military starts acting domestically next yearOct 14 20:02
FurnaceBoysureOct 14 20:03
FurnaceBoyi've considered all this... :)Oct 14 20:03
FurnaceBoyi'm sure it's not great to be living on the border of a failed stateOct 14 20:03
FurnaceBoy(me that is)Oct 14 20:03
FurnaceBoyi know how crazy they are... i work with someOct 14 20:03
schestowitzChalmers Johnson advised USians to buy a condo in VancouverOct 14 20:10
schestowitzSome USians buy apartments in the eastOct 14 20:10
schestowitzPeople whom I happen to know do this stuffOct 14 20:10
schestowitzWould you put your money in real estate in the US now. Some won't.Oct 14 20:10
MinceRi'd rather notOct 14 20:10
schestowitzThey diversityOct 14 20:10
MinceRi wouldn't want to move from one christian fundamentalist police state to anotherOct 14 20:10
MinceRthere's no pointOct 14 20:10
schestowitzSo if they can, they buy another habitat in a second locationOct 14 20:10
FurnaceBoysure. who wouldn't?Oct 14 20:10
FurnaceBoyit's quite prudentOct 14 20:10
FurnaceBoyanyone with their eyes open would have made exit plans years agoOct 14 20:10
FurnaceBoybesides, just about anywhere else is nicer to live in. :)Oct 14 20:10
schestowitzNot trueOct 14 20:14
FurnaceBoyi know exceptions.Oct 14 20:15
FurnaceBoybut in general it's true. the USA is awful.Oct 14 20:15
FurnaceBoyChina, North Korea, Somalia, Russia, are exceptions. And probably much of Africa. But after that one starts to struggle,...Oct 14 20:16
FurnaceBoyand in fact Africa's not bad. I know Americans who would love to emigrate to e.g. TanzaniaOct 14 20:22
schestowitzYeahOct 14 20:23
schestowitzSImpler lifeOct 14 20:23
schestowitzLess stress but less health, tooOct 14 20:23
schestowitzI wonder if Africans welcome white people who want to just farmOct 14 20:23
schestowitzDon't forget south american and south east asiaOct 14 20:23
schestowitzmany poor nations thereOct 14 20:23
schestowitz*americaOct 14 20:23
schestowitzA friend of ours has disappearedOct 14 20:23
FurnaceBoySouth America is fineOct 14 20:23
schestowitzGot this minutes ago:Oct 14 20:23
schestowitz> Im very worried about xxxx. anyone hear from him?Oct 14 20:23
FurnaceBoymisadventure can occur anywhere, especially USAOct 14 20:23
schestowitz>Oct 14 20:23
schestowitz> He ahs not responded to email requests and was very silent on the listOct 14 20:23
schestowitz> OOo and LibreofficeOct 14 20:23
schestowitz>Oct 14 20:23
schestowitz> BestOct 14 20:23
schestowitz>Oct 14 20:23
FurnaceBoythe homicide rate in Sao Paulo is lower than most major US cities.Oct 14 20:23
schestowitz> Im very worried about xxxx. anyone hear from him?Oct 14 20:23
schestowitz>Oct 14 20:23
schestowitz> He ahs not responded to email requests and was very silent on the listOct 14 20:23
schestowitz> OOo and LibreofficeOct 14 20:23
schestowitz>Oct 14 20:23
schestowitz> BestOct 14 20:23
schestowitz>Oct 14 20:23
schestowitzHe vanished 2 months ago.Oct 14 20:23
schestowitzSometimes they just pull a 180Oct 14 20:23
schestowitzLike daemonfcOct 14 20:23
schestowitzsurvival/work modeOct 14 20:23
schestowitzSeen the Google Street View murder scene?Oct 14 20:23
schestowitzThat was in Brazil, people in bodybagsOct 14 20:23
FurnaceBoyproves nothing, schestowitzOct 14 20:23
FurnaceBoyit's an anecdote which reinforces a false stereotype.Oct 14 20:23
FurnaceBoyUSA'ians find it comforting, but it's false.Oct 14 20:23
FurnaceBoyUSA is mostly less safeOct 14 20:23
FurnaceBoyand their stupid policies are making it increasingly dangerousOct 14 20:23
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the country has a gun problem.Oct 14 20:25
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: gun control made Sao Paulo safer.Oct 14 20:25
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the usa just keeps driving as fast as it can, the wrong way. good luck to them.Oct 14 20:25
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schestowitzUrban warfare trainingOct 14 20:28
schestowitz"80k for #LibreOffice v 2-3million for OOo: how many OOo downloads are driven from bundling in Java updates on Windows?" http://twitter.com/#!/patrickf/status/27366652564Oct 14 20:29
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: sure, as long as they go after the right enemy. but unfortunately they listen to Fox.Oct 14 20:30
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: (the right wing gun nutjobs that is)Oct 14 20:30
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: so it's like the most stupid army everOct 14 20:30
*FurnaceBoy gigglesOct 14 20:30
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: they are anti-revolutionaries, to be exact. as I tweeted.Oct 14 20:31
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp0_aMbBLfUOct 14 20:36
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schestowitz_log[20:43] <schestowitz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBDrA74lM3k&NR=1Oct 14 20:54
schestowitz_log[20:44] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: some straight talk http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010/10/11/the-values-of-everything/     roy_Oct 14 20:54
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schestowitz_log[20:45] <roy_> [20:44] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: some straight talk http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010/10/11/the-values-of-everything/     roy_Oct 14 20:54
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schestowitz_log[20:45] <roy_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBDrA74lM3k&NR=1Oct 14 20:54
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schestowitz_log[20:52] <roy_> Ah... I see... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knFeIyeuSy8&feature=channelOct 14 20:54
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abeNd-orgwtf, how do you miss a bright red car & rear end it......Oct 15 01:34
qu1j0t3who?Oct 15 01:47
abeNd-orgthe lady who missed my bright red car & rear ended me on the freeway todayOct 15 01:55
qu1j0t3texting?Oct 15 01:55
abeNd-orgno, she just was flat out not paying attention, looking down at something in her passenger seatOct 15 01:56
abeNd-orgat least she has real insurance & they are taking care of itOct 15 01:57
abeNd-orglast time i got rear ended the guy gave me fake insurance infoOct 15 01:58
abeNd-orgso...whats the opensource mail compliance archiving product to use & does it work with more than just exchange?Oct 15 04:03
roy__"sure but try to make your girlfriend do it " http://identi.ca/notice/56150591Oct 15 04:40
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FurnaceBoyroy__: "Zuckerberg says there is a specific reason he wants to go with Bing: 'They really are the underdog here. They're incentivized to go out and innovate. They have all these smart people and are trying to do all these new things.'Oct 15 21:40
MinceRlolOct 15 21:41
MinceRand anyone who believes that is, in fuckerberg's words, a "dumb fuck"Oct 15 21:41
FurnaceBoyit's such a childish form of expression. "They have all these smart people and   │Oct 15 21:44
FurnaceBoy                          | are trying to do all these new things."Oct 15 21:44
FurnaceBoyBill Gates speaks in this kind of retarded toddler pidgin too.Oct 15 21:44
FurnaceBoyi think it's the tone of somebody who really doesn't have to careOct 15 21:44
FurnaceBoywhen they open their mouths it's just to fill airtime until the next appointmentOct 15 21:45
FurnaceBoybromidicOct 15 21:45
roy__URL?Oct 15 21:45
roy__Is this a new statement?Oct 15 21:45
FurnaceBoyroy__: slashdot front pageOct 15 21:45
roy__"dumb fuck"Oct 15 21:45
FurnaceBoy'microsoft and facebook team up against google' is the storyOct 15 21:45
roy__What a surprise... notOct 15 21:45
FurnaceBoyexactlyOct 15 21:45
*roy__ dents it...Oct 15 21:46
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/27461193965Oct 15 21:46
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roy__We need a new name for the companyOct 15 21:50
roy__Like BallmersBookOct 15 21:50
roy__Microbook now explicit enoughOct 15 21:50
MinceR:)Oct 15 21:50
roy__"Hey, dude, are you on Ballmer's book?"Oct 15 21:51
roy__You got a date!?Oct 15 21:51
MinceRmicrosookOct 15 21:51
roy__zook?Oct 15 21:51
MinceRthat tooOct 15 21:52
MinceRor just simply Microsoft(r) Facebook(tm)Oct 15 21:53
roy__See #techrights dentsOct 15 21:54
roy__ZuckerbongOct 15 21:55
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schestowitz[towelie voice] wanna get high?Oct 15 21:56
MinceR:)Oct 15 21:57
MinceRi like dumbfuckbookOct 15 21:57
MinceRi used to call it fecesbookOct 15 21:58
FurnaceBoyroy__: what's funny? look: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-ca/default.aspxOct 15 21:58
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schestowitz_log_[21:58] <MinceR> yeah, i laughed at their header tooOct 15 22:02
schestowitz_log_[21:58] <schestowitz> [21:57] <MinceR> i like dumbfuckbookOct 15 22:02
schestowitz_log_[21:58] <schestowitz> [21:58] <MinceR> i used to call it fecesbookOct 15 22:02
schestowitz_log_[21:59] <schestowitz> Too insulting thoughOct 15 22:02
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schestowitz_log_[21:58] <MinceR> yeah, i laughed at their header tooOct 15 22:03
schestowitz_log_[21:58] <schestowitz> [21:57] <MinceR> i like dumbfuckbookOct 15 22:03
schestowitz_log_[21:58] <schestowitz> [21:58] <MinceR> i used to call it fecesbookOct 15 22:03
schestowitz_log_[21:59] <schestowitz> Too insulting thoughOct 15 22:03
MinceRi'm not sure if there's such a thing as "too insulting" in this caseOct 15 22:03
schestowitz_log_:FurnaceBoy!~FurnaceBo@bas2-toronto10-2925235772.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :roy__: what's funny? look: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-ca/default.aspxOct 15 22:03
schestowitz_log_:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :yeah, i laughed at their header tooOct 15 22:03
schestowitz_log_:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :they should make another one sayingOct 15 22:03
schestowitz_log_:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :// i've got 4 words for youOct 15 22:03
schestowitz_log_:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :['i', 'love', 'this', 'company', 'yeah']Oct 15 22:03
schestowitz_log_:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :or something like thatOct 15 22:03
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schestowitz_log_:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell-social :or maybe a Trash animation of ballmer bouncing around the page, leaving sweaty puddles behindOct 15 22:03
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roy_For logsOct 15 22:03
MinceRespecially if we call the site after what its founder calls its usersOct 15 22:03
roy_I get a new router next weekOct 15 22:03
MinceRi know it's for the logs :)Oct 15 22:04
roy_MinceR: the facebook db is his **itlistOct 15 22:04
roy_"we view enormous growth"Oct 15 22:05
roy_Over a million new "dumb fucks" add their profiles to our site and put their "dumb fucks" photos and stuff on our site every DAY!Oct 15 22:05
MinceREXP3RIENCE EN0RM0US GR0W7H 0RDER V1AGR4 AND CI4LI5 N0WOct 15 22:05
MinceR;)Oct 15 22:06
roy_http://identi.ca/conversation/55812018#notice-56291976 "@schestowitz facecrack?"Oct 15 22:15
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/55812018#notice-56292077 "@schestowitz Most people I know refer to it as #fartbook."Oct 15 22:15
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FurnaceBoydumbfuckistanOct 15 22:16
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/55811815#notice-56292106 "Did not know that. Good to know." "After reading those posts, I am again increasingly thankful for the movement to LibreOffice"Oct 15 22:16
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qu1j0t3:)Oct 15 22:21
schestowitzFacebook has had its sen..... Microsoft momentOct 15 22:23
qu1j0t3it's one long Microsoft moment.Oct 15 22:23
schestowitzNow it'll suffer like Digg, I hopeOct 15 22:23
qu1j0t3ppl don't seem to get thisOct 15 22:23
schestowitzPost MSFT dealOct 15 22:23
qu1j0t3it always shared DNA with Microsoft.Oct 15 22:23
schestowitzOr mySpace when rottingDinosaur bought itOct 15 22:23
qu1j0t3no, no...Oct 15 22:24
qu1j0t3it's not that microsoft comes along and corrupts FbOct 15 22:24
qu1j0t3Fb was always corruptOct 15 22:24
qu1j0t3they just recognise in each other kinOct 15 22:24
schestowitzthey deleted their pastOct 15 22:24
schestowitzSome years ago I learned what people had me sign up toOct 15 22:24
schestowitzHe stole people's profiles... 'stole' I should sayOct 15 22:25
schestowitzHe took campus info w/o permissionOct 15 22:25
schestowitzThen made mock profileOct 15 22:25
schestowitzBasically sort of signed up on 'their behalf'Oct 15 22:25
schestowitzThe college blasted himOct 15 22:25
schestowitzMaybe  serious threatsOct 15 22:25
schestowitzLike some dude in the UK who tried itOct 15 22:25
schestowitzBut like Microsoft they went burning the bookOct 15 22:26
schestowitzYou won't know this from WikipediaOct 15 22:26
schestowitzAnd the lawsuit also say where the code came fromOct 15 22:26
schestowitzLike when Gates listed code from the trashOct 15 22:26
schestowitzIn campusOct 15 22:26
schestowitzNow almost nobody knows itOct 15 22:26
schestowitzAlong with other scandalsOct 15 22:26
qu1j0t3haOct 15 22:27
qu1j0t3rightOct 15 22:27
schestowitzAnd TechDirt et al praised US lawsOct 15 22:27
qu1j0t3gonna wash this man right out of my hairOct 15 22:27
schestowitzSaying that UK law prevented a FacebookOct 15 22:27
schestowitzIgnoring the fact that, AFAIK, Zuck broke the lawOct 15 22:27
schestowitzLater he just bough some PROct 15 22:27
schestowitz$100ml mini-moneyOct 15 22:27
schestowitz1000 full-time PR agents for 2 yearsOct 15 22:27
schestowitzWikipedia takes just minutes per day to policeOct 15 22:28
schestowitzPlanting articles in the presss is easyOct 15 22:28
schestowitzThen bribing some press like ABC, NPR, Grauniad...Oct 15 22:28
schestowitzEasy moneyOct 15 22:28
schestowitzRoIOct 15 22:28
schestowitzDo the crimeOct 15 22:28
schestowitzLater worry about how to remove the evidence after you had made the moneyOct 15 22:29
schestowitzMany regimes do thatOct 15 22:29
schestowitzWorks OK unless they loseOct 15 22:29
schestowitzThen someone else writes historyOct 15 22:29
schestowitzSo people may not remember how the Nazis gained powerOct 15 22:29
schestowitzOr the BolsheviksOct 15 22:29
schestowitzor MaoOct 15 22:29
schestowitzOr how Zionists blew up British facilities in PalestineOct 15 22:29
schestowitzMany revolutions destroy evidenceOct 15 22:30
schestowitzSweeping aside rubbleOct 15 22:30
schestowitzThe US...Oct 15 22:30
schestowitzIndiansOct 15 22:30
schestowitz"What Indians?"Oct 15 22:30
schestowitz"We gave them land"Oct 15 22:30
schestowitz"They're still herr"Oct 15 22:30
schestowitz"Didn't you watch Pokahontas?"Oct 15 22:30
schestowitzThe historical documentary 100% spin-free... *cough* "savages!"Oct 15 22:31
schestowitzTaught and passes to all toddlers across the world at young ageOct 15 22:31
schestowitzArab=Sultan from AladdinOct 15 22:32
schestowitzChinese=street catsOct 15 22:32
schestowitzBlacks=slaves who love to serveOct 15 22:32
schestowitzWomen=work in kitchen like Snow WhiteOct 15 22:32
schestowitzMen=story heroesOct 15 22:32
schestowitzMen in cape=evilOct 15 22:33
schestowitzLions=kingsOct 15 22:33
schestowitz[not just cats]Oct 15 22:33
schestowitzHyenas=nasty, corpse eatersOct 15 22:33
schestowitzDogs=man's best friendOct 15 22:33
schestowitzWhat else does Disney teach?Oct 15 22:34
schestowitz"RT @qu1j0t3 #Facebook and #Microsoft share the same corrupt #dna. They'll always be on the same side. So, they can go down together: FINE" http://identi.ca/notice/56293611Oct 15 22:35
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/56293611Oct 15 22:36
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: okazOct 15 22:49
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schestowitzHeyOct 15 22:50
pietercheyOct 15 22:50
MinceRhayOct 15 22:50
pietercdid theZuck put on fantomusers to attract people?Oct 15 22:52
qu1j0t3schestowitz: don't forget accents/ Foreigners with accents = the bad guysOct 15 22:54
schestowitzpieterc: yesOct 15 22:54
qu1j0t3schestowitz: perfect example, Jeremy Irons in that shitty diehardOct 15 22:54
schestowitzIf what I read in wikipedia was rightOct 15 22:54
schestowitzThey airbrushed it off there a long while backOct 15 22:54
schestowitzHistory changed  a bitOct 15 22:55
qu1j0t3ha!Oct 15 22:55
schestowitzMark's imperativeOct 15 22:55
schestowitzIIRC he almost got suspended and kicked out of collegeOct 15 22:55
schestowitzFor intruding people's personal data, harvesting it, and making it publicOct 15 22:55
MinceRi don't remember any Die Hard movie that was "shitty"Oct 15 22:55
MinceRalso, Jeremy Irons could play a bad guy even without accents, in at least one other movie :>Oct 15 22:56
schestowitzqu1j0t3: or stupidOct 15 22:56
schestowitzUnilingual=goodOct 15 22:56
schestowitzAll people all across the world speak ENglish... fish tooOct 15 22:56
MinceRalso, don't forget that evil is often idolizedOct 15 22:57
*MinceR sometimes has to remind people that Evil is not the same as CoolOct 15 22:57
MinceRhttp://everything2.com/?node=Evil+is+not+the+same+as+CoolOct 15 22:57
schestowitzMinceR: Die Hard was greatOct 15 22:57
schestowitzLatter ones weakerOct 15 22:57
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schestowitz3 had the Nazi plot, right?Oct 15 22:57
schestowitzAirport thingOct 15 22:58
MinceRyesOct 15 22:58
MinceRnot airport, iircOct 15 22:58
schestowitzGOldOct 15 22:58
schestowitzmaybe 2 was airportOct 15 22:58
MinceR2 was the airport oneOct 15 22:58
schestowitz1 skyscraperOct 15 22:58
MinceRindeedOct 15 22:58
schestowitzI was too young to understad the storyOct 15 22:59
qu1j0t3MinceR: the one with Jeremy Irons was shitty, imho. But I don't do Hollywood anyway.Oct 15 23:02
qu1j0t3shittier than average, even *Oct 15 23:02
MinceRi disagreeOct 15 23:04
FurnaceBoyof course :)Oct 15 23:10
FurnaceBoymost ppl accept h'woodOct 15 23:10
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MinceRit's not an atomic thing.Oct 15 23:14
FurnaceBoyatomic?Oct 15 23:14
FurnaceBoymost ppl accept that it's entertainment.Oct 15 23:14
MinceRthat's its function, at least toward the consumers.Oct 15 23:15
FurnaceBoyyes, so many think :)Oct 15 23:15
MinceRthey often succeedOct 15 23:15
FurnaceBoythat's certainly the majority view, and the convenient consensusOct 15 23:15
FurnaceBoyother views exist :DOct 15 23:15
FurnaceBoyin other news, Windows is accepted as an operating system and productivity boosterOct 15 23:16
FurnaceBoyby manyOct 15 23:16
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/55813675#notice-56298428 "@schestowitz R u for real. That is really sad"Oct 15 23:19
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schestowitz""artists only earn $23.40 for every $1,000 in album sales." > wow! This much? The recording middlemen must feel generous"Oct 15 23:19
FurnaceBoyhm, can I rt that?Oct 15 23:19
schestowitzsureOct 15 23:19
*FurnaceBoy goes to see if he can work identicaOct 15 23:19
schestowitzmake your account thereOct 15 23:19
schestowitztick the twitter connect thingOct 15 23:19
FurnaceBoyi didOct 15 23:20
schestowitzThen it carbon copies everything that goes through identicaOct 15 23:20
FurnaceBoyif i repeat this msg, it won't post to twitter...Oct 15 23:20
schestowitzAnd it comes to IRC tooOct 15 23:20
FurnaceBoyi connected my twitter long agoOct 15 23:20
schestowitzMaybe wronglyOct 15 23:20
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schestowitzAccount->Oct 15 23:21
MinceRin other news, people who take everything too seriously can't enjoy moviesOct 15 23:23
FurnaceBoyi enjoy cinema insteadOct 15 23:23
MinceRlolOct 15 23:23
FurnaceBoyi know plenty of ppl who would make the same argument about windowsOct 15 23:23
FurnaceBoy"it's the technology..it's fine..it works"Oct 15 23:24
FurnaceBoyunfortunately it's not about technology :DOct 15 23:24
MinceRexcept for the whole "it doesn't"Oct 15 23:24
FurnaceBoyjust as h'wood isn't about celluloidOct 15 23:24
MinceRmovies are not about technologyOct 15 23:24
MinceRat least not most of the timeOct 15 23:24
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: stop taking software so seriously -- it's just bits and bytes, damn it.Oct 15 23:25
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: bits and bytes never harmed anyone!Oct 15 23:25
MinceRsome people can tell the difference between technology and entertainment, others can not. :>Oct 15 23:25
schestowitz[23:24] <FurnaceBoy> unfortunately it's not about technology :DOct 15 23:25
schestowitzSaid MicrosoftOct 15 23:25
schestowitzWorks for themOct 15 23:25
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: Enigma codeOct 15 23:26
MinceRi thought m$ insisted on the lie that they're a technology companyOct 15 23:26
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: microsoft is no more about storytelling than Tony Soprano's vocation is waste management.Oct 15 23:26
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: oopsOct 15 23:26
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: microsoft is no more about TECHNOLOGY than Tony Soprano's vocation is waste management.*Oct 15 23:26
FurnaceBoyMinceR: correctOct 15 23:26
FurnaceBoyMinceR: Microsoft needs ppl to think they are.Oct 15 23:26
MinceRcrApple seems to insist on the same lie about themselvesOct 15 23:27
schestowitzApe AlOct 15 23:27
FurnaceBoyFacebook will insist they are about 'connecting people', yadda yadda.Oct 15 23:27
schestowitzLike FurnaceBoy's twitter BGOct 15 23:28
FurnaceBoythe war makers insist they are 'bringing peace'Oct 15 23:28
MinceRi thought that was nokia's line :>Oct 15 23:28
MinceR"Connecting People", that isOct 15 23:28
schestowitzBernays: spread democracyOct 15 23:28
FurnaceBoythe real terrorists insist they are 'fighting terrorism'Oct 15 23:28
schestowitzspread democracy with B52sOct 15 23:28
schestowitzSpread it wideOct 15 23:28
schestowitzSparsely coveredOct 15 23:28
FurnaceBoyMinceR: right it is, but there's a facebook mission statement along these lines, i read it recentlyOct 15 23:28
schestowitzThose bombs are smartOct 15 23:29
FurnaceBoyMinceR: it's just hot airOct 15 23:29
schestowitzThey are callsOct 15 23:29
MinceRrightOct 15 23:29
schestowitzcalledOct 15 23:29
schestowitz"smart bombs"Oct 15 23:29
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: right, minimise collateral damage!Oct 15 23:29
schestowitzDoes what it says on the tinOct 15 23:29
MinceRthey keep that hot air under a hoodie :>Oct 15 23:29
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: a term i got to know back in Gulf War IOct 15 23:29
schestowitzYou colculate altitudeOct 15 23:29
schestowitzValociteOct 15 23:29
schestowitzDirectionOct 15 23:29
schestowitzTimeOct 15 23:29
schestowitz*altitudeOct 15 23:29
schestowitzit's all VERY smart and preciseOct 15 23:29
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the new thing to do is bomb the smart. they're dangerous.Oct 15 23:29
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: smartass elitist liberals, activists, peaceniksOct 15 23:30
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: protestersOct 15 23:30
schestowitzAt 500 MPH you can balistically aim within 10 yard from targetOct 15 23:30
schestowitzCause it's "samrt"Oct 15 23:30
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: smart bombs don't kill! muslims do!Oct 15 23:30
schestowitzThe bombs have some dousing thing for detecting children tooOct 15 23:30
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: Fox tv head recently asserted on air, "Not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim."Oct 15 23:31
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: I didn't have the heart to RT it, because some of my co-workers actually agree.Oct 15 23:31
schestowitzThe homoeopathic remedy in them make all the clusters explode for sureOct 15 23:31
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it's hard to work with fuckwitsOct 15 23:31
schestowitzTrust Uncle Son of SamOct 15 23:31
schestowitz[23:31] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: Fox tv head recently asserted on air, "Not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim."Oct 15 23:32
schestowitzYesOct 15 23:32
MinceR"Guns don't kill people, I do."Oct 15 23:32
schestowitzThe stigma says they wear towels for hatsOct 15 23:32
schestowitzNo GI gearOct 15 23:32
schestowitzBad Apples(R)Oct 15 23:32
schestowitzhttp://ur1.ca/22q9qOct 15 23:33
TechrightsBot-scTitle: disruptive.org.uk :: How news works .::. Size~: 10.04 KBOct 15 23:33
schestowitzHow news worksOct 15 23:33
schestowitzMonday 11th October 2010Oct 15 23:33
schestowitzHow news works. The Americans briefed journalists with a story that they knew was false, but hoped would stick. It didn't.Oct 15 23:33
schestowitzGuardian yesterday:Oct 15 23:33
schestowitzHow the rescue of British aid worker Linda Norgrove ended in tragedyOct 15 23:33
schestowitzCaptor detonated suicide vest as US special forces rescuers arrived at the mud-walled compound in eastern AfghanistanOct 15 23:33
schestowitzGuardian today:Oct 15 23:33
schestowitzAid worker Linda Norgrove may have been killed by US troopsOct 15 23:33
schestowitzBritish aid worker Linda Norgrove may have been killed by a grenade thrown by US troops trying to rescue her from Taliban kidnappers in Afghanistan, David Cameron said today.Oct 15 23:33
schestowitz===Oct 15 23:33
schestowitzArrest AssangeOct 15 23:33
schestowitzFreeze the bank accountOct 15 23:34
schestowitzWe have the Gates-funded Grauniad alreadyOct 15 23:34
schestowitzWe don't need leaksOct 15 23:34
schestowitz"@schestowitz Who is Zuckerberg?" http://identi.ca/conversation/55814086#notice-56298937Oct 15 23:35
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.01 KBOct 15 23:35
schestowitzMe: Zuckerberg is the kid who illegally put people's data as phantom profiles to start facebook as a sort of crime, then hid itOct 15 23:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: heh, yeah, wikileaks is irresponsible because they publish facts.Oct 15 23:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the media's job is to run away from facts as fast as they canOct 15 23:37
schestowitzwikileaks should leak taliban docsOct 15 23:37
schestowitzor find haven in Pakistani hospitalsOct 15 23:37
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: no, trend-setting mediaOct 15 23:38
schestowitzAnd The GatesianOct 15 23:38
schestowitzTheir role is to rally for popular supportOct 15 23:38
FurnaceBoypretty easy job.Oct 15 23:39
FurnaceBoythe consensus of falsehood remains pervasiveOct 15 23:40
FurnaceBoyso it's just really a matter of giving the wheel a push from time to timeOct 15 23:40
FurnaceBoyEstablishment: wot, me worry?Oct 15 23:40
FurnaceBoyBlairOct 15 23:40
FurnaceBoysitting prettyOct 15 23:40
FurnaceBoyUS Establishment pulling strings comfortably at Fox and HuffPo etcOct 15 23:41
FurnaceBoyall running like clockwork until wikileaks turned up with A FUCKING FACTOct 15 23:41
FurnaceBoypublic enemy #1Oct 15 23:43
FurnaceBoyLOLOct 15 23:43
FurnaceBoyspeaking of calling things the opposite of what they are.Oct 15 23:43
schestowitz[23:40] <FurnaceBoy> sitting prettyOct 15 23:43
schestowitzPoodle?Oct 15 23:43
FurnaceBoyyes, a pretty rich little poodle.Oct 15 23:43
FurnaceBoyBlair, the Paris Hilton of war criminals.Oct 15 23:44
schestowitzip and tuckOct 15 23:44
FurnaceBoyexcept she's spent more time behind bars than Tony Blair ever will.Oct 15 23:44
schestowitzNip and tuckOct 15 23:44
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oiaohmBugger schetowitz is not here.Oct 16 00:52
FurnaceBoyschestowitz is thoOct 16 00:53
FurnaceBoybut don't bugger himOct 16 00:53
oiaohmIe away status.Oct 16 00:53
oiaohmI was going to ask if the idea of a little video comp for a video to promote OpenOffice and Open source seams up his ally.Oct 16 00:54
Ender2070openoffice?Oct 16 00:57
Ender2070libreoffice > openofficeOct 16 00:57
oiaohmReally libreoffice vs openoffice is good for both long term.Oct 16 00:59
oiaohmBeing the only major open source office suit made Openoffice lazy.Oct 16 00:59
FurnaceBoydidn't microsoft already make a video promoting openoffice?Oct 16 00:59
oiaohmI was meaning a postive one.   FurnaceBoyOct 16 01:00
FurnaceBoyit was apparently a positive oneOct 16 01:00
oiaohmOf course someone could always do a MS Office negitive one.Oct 16 01:01
oiaohmBut that would require having MS Office todo it well.  What kinda goes against my grain.Oct 16 01:01
FurnaceBoyattack ads !Oct 16 01:01
FurnaceBoyhahaOct 16 01:01
oiaohmMS wants to play in on-line media that does not cost that much to use.Oct 16 01:02
oiaohmSo lets play with them.Oct 16 01:02
oiaohmSomething like Lady Java for libreoffice would be fun as well.  FurnaceBoyOct 16 01:03
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