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oiaohm3 cheep machines.Oct 05 00:00
oiaohmAs soon as they are doing something out those three you worry.Oct 05 00:00
Ziomatrixoiaohm: you think WebOS smartphones and tablets fall outside of #3?Oct 05 00:00
oiaohmI don't understand why there management does not seam to cope out side that.Oct 05 00:00
oiaohmWebOS involves OS development.   Software development is not one of HP strengths.Oct 05 00:01
Ziomatrixoiaohm: demand for increased quarterly earnings vs Oracle and IBMOct 05 00:01
Ziomatrixoiaohm: ask the Board of DirectorsOct 05 00:01
oiaohmYou have seen hp low end print drivers.  ZiomatrixOct 05 00:01
oiaohmwould you call them brilent bit of software construciton or crap.Oct 05 00:02
Ziomatrixoiaohm: well hence why they wanted to keep most of the Palm development team. Who knows how many outside of a few key execs who left actually stayed.Oct 05 00:02
Ziomatrixoiaohm: they're meh, I've only dealt with them and Cannon.Oct 05 00:02
oiaohmBasically if the lose the Palm development team due to management annoying the hell out of them webos is in trouble.Oct 05 00:02
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/100410-iran-arrests-stuxnet-nuclear.html?hpg1=bnOct 05 00:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iran arrests Stuxnet 'nuclear spies' .::. Size~: 103.24 KBOct 05 00:03
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.zdnetasia.com/nationwide-holiday-ups-china-s-risk-to-stuxnet-62203387.htmOct 05 00:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nationwide holiday ups China's risk to Stuxnet  - Security - News .::. Size~: 61.63 KBOct 05 00:03
oiaohmIf hp is able to hold onto the webos development team.  Then webos still has to fight against meego and android for applicaiton support.Oct 05 00:03
Ziomatrixoiaohm: if WebOS internals is any indication and the pace of WebOS 2.0 coming along, it seems most are still getting their paycheckOct 05 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn congrats!Oct 05 00:04
oiaohmPalm when it was taken over was finding it a up hill battle.Oct 05 00:04
Chips_B_Malroy"The cyberworm, which may have been designed to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, has already hit millions of computers around the country, most of them industrial facilities"Oct 05 00:05
Ziomatrixoiaohm: they have been since the Apple iPhone and decline of their Treo sales vs BlackberryOct 05 00:05
Ziomatrixand Windows Mobile of all platformsOct 05 00:05
oiaohmEven Blackberry is coming backwards.Oct 05 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Opting out of behavioral ad tracking may get easier https://eff.org/r.s9COct 05 00:05
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oiaohmThe market is going to be hostile.Oct 05 00:05
Ziomatrixoiaohm: its kind of due to all the internal turmoil as well as spat between the split of PalmOne and PalmSource (which became ACCESS)Oct 05 00:06
Ziomatrixoiaohm: if it wasn't for they they could have released Palm OS 6 Cobalt and stood a chance of gaining some marketshare back.Oct 05 00:06
oiaohmReally not.Oct 05 00:06
oiaohmiphone and blackberry has been doing there marketing way better as well.Oct 05 00:07
Ziomatrixoiaohm: the market is already hostile, ie competitions, thats not a bad thingOct 05 00:07
oiaohmThen google has topped both of them at marketing stunts.Oct 05 00:07
oiaohmNokia still has not played there cards yet with meego fully.Oct 05 00:08
Ziomatrixoiaohm: HP has some time to wait until the holidays or early next year to just up their advertising machineOct 05 00:08
oiaohmHP and Nokia are going to hit at the same time.  ZiomatrixOct 05 00:08
Ziomatrixoiaohm: imo I think Blackberry was a bit pre-mature with the Playbook, its not going to be released until early next year.Oct 05 00:08
oiaohmRemember Nokia was smart in the aquirement of QTOct 05 00:08
oiaohmThat puts them on side with KDEOct 05 00:08
oiaohmSo they will get some free marketing boost and apps from the QT set around KDEOct 05 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #PCIHugItOut podcast series is raising money for EFF and Hackers for Charity! https://eff.org/r.3sBOct 05 00:09
oiaohmI see Nokia as having played there cards kinda right but very slowly.Oct 05 00:09
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Ziomatrixoiaohm: the masses of people who buy in mass are typically too busy to look and recall for long trends and announcements in the tech industry. If anything, the massive onslaught of Android tablets is going to water down expectations on a worthwhile iPad competitor to most. Then it would be the perfect time for anyone to announce a more worthwhile product be it HP, Nokia or Blackberry once more soon after.Oct 05 00:10
oiaohmRemember Ziomatrix meego is prity much a standard Linux.Oct 05 00:11
oiaohmSo meego does not have to work hard to get apps.Oct 05 00:11
oiaohmNo apps you OS is basically worthless these days.Oct 05 00:11
Ziomatrixoiaohm: Meego like Nokia utilizes Qt as a cross development platform, someone has managed to port that platform to WebOS already, Blackberry will probably soon follow,.Oct 05 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ubuntu Community Reaches Out to Windows XP Orphans http://ur1.ca/1yysi !ubuntuOct 05 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] philosphy test came and went. i wrote like a mad man then rested.Oct 05 00:12
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oiaohmQt can be ported anywhere include android.  ZiomatrixOct 05 00:12
oiaohmBut meego does have wayland or standard X11 server inside.Oct 05 00:13
Ziomatrixoiaohm: but it would find a greater share in more open devices.Oct 05 00:13
oiaohmSo it is possible to run GTK and other toolkits on it.  ZiomatrixOct 05 00:13
oiaohmIe meego is more a standard Linux distribution with a highly custom windows manager.Oct 05 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] philosophy test came and went. i wrote like a mad man.Oct 05 00:14
Diablo-D3meego isnt too standardOct 05 00:14
oiaohmFor making applications work its close enough.Oct 05 00:14
hazzyI'd like to try Meego, personallyOct 05 00:16
Ziomatrixoiaohm: someone managed to put X11 on WebOS: http://tinyurl.com/y2zejpw Its not a matter if it can be done, which is can even for the iOS. Its just how openly accessible it is and available for use to any developer from the start.Oct 05 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: X-Server is coming to webOS, bringing along OpenOffice | PreCentral.net .::. Size~: 109.93 KBOct 05 00:16
oiaohmZiomatrix: that is the last thing you want to be doing.Oct 05 00:16
oiaohmI know the history of openoffice on OS X doing the same kind of thing.Oct 05 00:17
Chips_B_Malroywatching the OEM's defect from windows phone, tablets, and Netbooks is like the boy with his finger in the Dutch Dyke holding the water backOct 05 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EU law requires that #mobbyists disclosure who pays them AFAIK. But in any case, it's often obvious even without them registering.Oct 05 00:17
oiaohmneooffice appeared due to the massive performance cost of stacking X11 on top of host graphical.  ZiomatrixOct 05 00:17
Chips_B_MalroyAnd that (monkey) boy would be BallmerOct 05 00:17
Ziomatrixoiaohm: point taken, thats why you don't hear much of it and there's not much demand. Supposedly according to the SDK QuickOffice is coming bundled with WebOS 2.0Oct 05 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz nope, that's why we need federation of freedom boxesOct 05 00:19
oiaohmWayland is about the only thing I know of that can run X11 on top of it without taking a massive hit.Oct 05 00:19
oiaohmMostly because Wayland is basically just using the normal X11 drivers itself.Oct 05 00:19
oiaohmThat is the other advantage of the meego path lot of drivers will just exist for them.Oct 05 00:22
schestowitzhazzy: <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Spotify launches on Windows Mobile | Microsoft News | OnWindows.com .::. Size~: 49.71 KB I don't get it, they already deprecated this WM brandOct 05 00:23
schestowitzhazzy: [21:38] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Apple's 'iKey' to replace the door key | I Didn't Know That! .::. Size~: 89.68 KB   < clearly  a joke   http://hoowstuffworks.blogspot.com   "HOOW"Oct 05 00:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @ufa: Lenovo me ofereceu o valor que eles pagam da licença do Rwindows. 50 reais. Perguntei se tinham como provar. Não tinham. RecuseiOct 05 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Opting out of behavioral ad tracking may get easier https://eff.org/r.s9COct 05 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: #PCIHugItOut podcast series is raising money for EFF and Hackers for Charity! https://eff.org/r.3sBOct 05 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Sintel is finally out http://ur1.ca/1yyvwOct 05 00:24
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/12933/sophisticated-stuxnet-malware-is-approaching-18-months-old-/Oct 05 00:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Infosecurity (UK) - Sophisticated stuxnet malware is approaching 18 months old  .::. Size~: 46.89 KBOct 05 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes LINK: 20 Reasons !Linux Will Boom in a Post-Recession World http://tinyurl.com/34kkgvjOct 05 00:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 20 Reasons Linux Will Boom in a Post-Recession World &mdash; Datamation.com .::. Size~: 71.3 KBOct 05 00:25
Chips_B_Malroy"The report reveals that Stuxnet is a complex piece of code that generates no less than 32 payload exports and can spread in multiple environments, including in local area networks using a vulnerability in the Windows print spooler, as well as tapping Windows Server to hit smaller enterprises."Oct 05 00:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/auspicious-signs-for-maverick/Oct 05 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Auspicious signs for Maverick .::. Size~: 54.14 KBOct 05 00:27
oiaohmThey don't mention is has a update feature.  Chips_B_MalroyOct 05 00:27
oiaohmSo making it even harder to shutdown.Oct 05 00:27
sebsebsebschestowitz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/give-a-helping-hand-to-a-fellow-linux-user-in-need/Oct 05 00:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Give a helping hand to a fellow Linux user in need .::. Size~: 29.14 KBOct 05 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lxoliva RD @osamak: Happy Birthday, @fsf and thanks for everything. It has been wonderful 25 years! //salutations!Oct 05 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Film-lovers, check out Sintel, a fantastic new CC BY-licensed short from @BlenderDurian: http://bit.ly/aPIzK1Oct 05 00:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh *YOUR* spider photo?Oct 05 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Palm planning keyboard-less 'Mansion' with 800 x 480 screen http://ur1.ca/1yy5zOct 05 00:39
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Halo-Reach-Recon-Armor-Code-Generators-Infected-with-Malware-159242.shtmlOct 05 00:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Halo: Reach Recon Armor Code Generators Infected with Malware - Softpedia .::. Size~: 45.98 KBOct 05 00:42
schestowitz[23:24] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: HP Officially Drops Plans For Android Phones and Tablets .::. Size~: 56.64 KBOct 05 00:43
schestowitzWhat did I tell you???Oct 05 00:43
schestowitzHP-SAP-softOct 05 00:43
schestowitzI have a post about it laterOct 05 00:44
schestowitzSame in LGOct 05 00:44
schestowitzYahooOct 05 00:44
schestowitzNokiaOct 05 00:44
schestowitzEntryism on full throttleOct 05 00:44
schestowitzWho's next?Oct 05 00:44
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.spamfighter.com/News-15156-Malware-Campaign-Hits-Linkedin-Reports-Cisco.htmOct 05 00:45
schestowitzCan Microsoft get Schmidt fired for groping someone?Oct 05 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Malware Campaign Hits Linkedin, Reports Cisco - SPAMfighter .::. Size~: 30.26 KBOct 05 00:45
hazzy"Let's make a crappy phone and completely force it on consumers"Oct 05 00:45
schestowitz[23:30] <Chips_B_Malroy> PalmOS is still going on HP, just Android is notOct 05 00:45
schestowitzHere's the thingOct 05 00:45
oiaohmEven that MS is playing all these tricks it still not stopping Linux sales.  schestowitzOct 05 00:45
schestowitzAndroid came also after WebOSOct 05 00:45
schestowitzSo the cancellation suggests one of the cronies of Microsoft inside HP's board is pushing in somedirectionOct 05 00:46
schestowitzAnd then there's the anti-Android/Droid lawsuitOct 05 00:46
schestowitzThe mobbyist+Ed Bought must be laughingOct 05 00:46
schestowitz"why I dumped 'my' Droid"Oct 05 00:46
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.securitypark.co.uk/security_article265345.htmlOct 05 00:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz RT @openbytes LINK: 20 Reasons !Linux Will Boom in a Post-Recession World http://tinyurl.com/34kkgvjOct 05 00:47
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/52813313#notice-54116705 "@schestowitz !KDE already has the very well-designed, though still quite young, #Koffice 2, which has also seen some backing from Nokia."Oct 05 00:47
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schestowitz"@schestowitz Like Mozilla doesn't support Webkit, I don't see why !KDE *should* support #LibreOffice, as long as they support ODF." http://identi.ca/conversation/52813313#notice-54117060Oct 05 00:47
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schestowitzFair points there.Oct 05 00:48
Ziomatrixschestowitz: still think whatever SAP/MS cabal is going on inside HP is going to basically reflect their enterprise roadmap as apposed to personal mobile devices.Oct 05 00:48
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/53619329#notice-54119083 "nope, that's why we need federation of freedom boxes"Oct 05 00:48
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oiaohmNot a fair point on webkit. schestowitzOct 05 00:48
oiaohmWebkit is being intergrated in at the QT level.Oct 05 00:48
oiaohmKeeping khtml and webkit around is duplication of effort.Oct 05 00:49
oiaohmYes KDE lead developers do see the value of Webkit and how apple altered khtml.Oct 05 00:50
oiaohmOk yes they are still pissed that apple took it out side the main tree but that is no reason to not use an improvement.Oct 05 00:50
Ziomatrixschestowitz: HP was only able to acquire Palm (outbidding others) at $1.2B with Board of Director's conscent. The very same board that was responsible for ousting Hurd and appointing Apotheker. So I don't see why the new CEO to be would want to mess with something HP already paid so much for and already has a pretty solid roadmap thanks in part to former Palm CEO Todd Bradley.Oct 05 00:51
schestowitz[23:31] <Chips_B_Malroy> And from the link, it looks like HP is only doing one windows tabletOct 05 00:52
schestowitzThey never properly cancelled vista7 'slate'Oct 05 00:52
schestowitzThey just moved to webosOct 05 00:52
schestowitzbut came back to the vista-foldOct 05 00:52
Ziomatrixschestowitz: they claim the Vista 7 Tablet will exclusively be on order for businesses, ie businesses must order them wholesale for them to ever produce it.Oct 05 00:53
Ziomatrixschestowitz: its a nice way of saying that we won't sell it unless some big business wants itOct 05 00:53
Chips_B_MalroyyesOct 05 00:53
Chips_B_Malroywell, later allOct 05 00:53
ZiomatrixciaoOct 05 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rysiek "she knew my one weakness - that I'm weak!.." - Homer J. Simpson !qOct 05 00:54
Ziomatrixschestowitz: what one has to be concerned about is how HP may absolutely dump UX and go head on with Windows Server and SAP suites against OracleOct 05 00:54
schestowitzZiomatrix: :->Oct 05 00:54
oiaohmBig question everyone has missed is will the the same tablet for windows 7 be orderable with Linux instead.Oct 05 00:54
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I'm logging off soon just not yetOct 05 00:54
oiaohmIe build on demard stuff for business you can normally have you corporate software image placed in it.Oct 05 00:55
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Ziomatrixoiaohm: HP has their Vista 7 Tablet to be ordered on demand for businesses, and then they will roll out a WebOS tablet by at least early next yearOct 05 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Looking forward the Lakers vs Timberwolves pre-season game tonight!! Yes I know it won't be live as it took place in London #nbaOct 05 00:55
oiaohmMost likely the same tablet.  ZiomatrixOct 05 00:55
Ziomatrixoiaohm: but as far as their product portfolio is concerned, they are completely different products.Oct 05 00:55
oiaohmLOLOct 05 00:56
Ziomatrixoiaohm: expect the WebOS version to look a bit different as wellOct 05 00:56
oiaohmSticker the difference.Oct 05 00:56
gnufreexI must go. Bye.Oct 05 00:56
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schestowitz[23:42] <cubevector> schestowitz, if you guys feel like hosting it feel free to use itOct 05 00:56
schestowitzYeah, next topOct 05 00:56
oiaohmOn demard includes custom casing normally.Oct 05 00:56
schestowitzWe have wide bandsOct 05 00:56
schestowitzDCOct 05 00:57
Ziomatrixoiaohm: perhaps, anyway its my turn to leave nowOct 05 00:57
Ziomatrixoiaohm: I can imagine some business' desire to slap their logo on it, as well as include their own software of choice.Oct 05 00:58
Ziomatrixoiaohm: but like I said, without actuals orders ie demand, there is going to be no HP Vista 7 tablet.Oct 05 00:58
oiaohmZiomatrix: corprate images include Linux images as well.  ZiomatrixOct 05 01:00
oiaohmSo even with orders Windows 7 still might not be going out the door.Oct 05 01:00
Ziomatrixoiaohm: but then whats the point paying for a Tablet with MS royalties attached?Oct 05 01:01
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oiaohmCustom OS on product you don't pay for OS on the device.  ZiomatrixOct 05 01:02
oiaohmUnless its windows.  ZiomatrixOct 05 01:03
oiaohmIts been the hp way for years.Oct 05 01:03
Ziomatrixoiaohm: Its still comparable to buying an iPad to run Linux remotely: http://tinyurl.com/27wbwwtOct 05 01:03
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oiaohmYes I have seen companies order laptops with freedos and other stupidity.Oct 05 01:03
Ziomatrixoiaohm: the question is will HP permit selling the Tablet OS free without including the cost of MS pegged on it?Oct 05 01:04
cubezzzI hope there was a cost savings at leastOct 05 01:04
oiaohmYep.  ZiomatrixOct 05 01:04
oiaohmBut there is a 20 dollar imaging charge for seting up your image.Oct 05 01:05
oiaohmThat you would have paid to have a windows custom install on there anyhow.Oct 05 01:05
oiaohmYes cost saving ordering on demard stuff from HP.  cubezzzOct 05 01:06
oiaohmBut all orders must be above a particular volume.Oct 05 01:06
Ziomatrixoiaohm: I know with Lenovo you can order an individual laptop OS free if you order by phoneOct 05 01:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/53639953#notice-54124774 "v"Oct 05 01:07
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schestowitz"And Nokia does have the paltform which aperantly M$ is lacking. Also the new CEO would be open and friendly towards M$." http://identi.ca/conversation/53639953#notice-54124941Oct 05 01:07
oiaohmHP does as well but getting there in the phone service is a pain in ass.  ZiomatrixOct 05 01:07
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/53639953#notice-54125585 "So under these aspects working together would make sense for Nokia and M$. Bild however often makes things up for better sales."Oct 05 01:07
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Ziomatrixoiaohm: the main problem is with online coupons and such you could still save more even if the notebook comes bundled with WindowsOct 05 01:08
schestowitzLike I said, it makes little business sense overall. But no doubt Nokia already started looking at Microsoft collab (post-Elop)Oct 05 01:08
oiaohmYes but that is due to crap ware discount.  ZiomatrixOct 05 01:08
Ziomatrixoiaohm: which can be easily addressed via reformatOct 05 01:08
oiaohmHp install image on the machine include the crapwareOct 05 01:09
oiaohmAnd no crapware free image provided.  ZiomatrixOct 05 01:09
Ziomatrixoiaohm: also HP is looking into including a ROM based Linux quick boot option, so I suppose they can throw the crapware there in the futureOct 05 01:09
oiaohmAlready do.  ZiomatrixOct 05 01:09
oiaohmskype pays to be in there.  ZiomatrixOct 05 01:09
Ziomatrixtrue, anyway I g2gOct 05 01:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Palm planning keyboard-less 'Mansion' with 800 x 480 screen? http://ur1.ca/1yy5z Let's hope HP sticks w/ !linuxOct 05 01:17
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schestowitz[00:45] <oiaohm> Even that MS is playing all these tricks it still not stopping Linux sales.  schestowitzOct 05 01:17
schestowitzThat's why we need many distros, phones, platformsOct 05 01:17
schestowitzMicrosoft attacks AndroidOct 05 01:17
schestowitzBut one company at the timeOct 05 01:17
schestowitzAnd yet not GoogleOct 05 01:17
schestowitzNor HPOct 05 01:18
schestowitzOr WebOS/PalmOct 05 01:18
schestowitzor MeeGoOct 05 01:18
schestowitzJust NokaiOct 05 01:18
schestowitzLinux: Multi-headed hydraOct 05 01:18
hazzyYeah, Microsoft criticizes Linux for being fragmented because of thatOct 05 01:18
schestowitzMicrosoft: bald-headed gorillaOct 05 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] wonders if when @horaciog extorts companies which commit the 'crime' of selling Linux he "only follows orders" or thinks he helps societyOct 05 01:20
schestowitz[00:48] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: still think whatever SAP/MS cabal is going on inside HP is going to basically reflect their enterprise roadmap as apposed to personal mobile devices.Oct 05 01:21
schestowitzIt has toOct 05 01:21
schestowitzThe 'phamacist' CEO has a long-term relationship with the gorillaOct 05 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Thieves http://ur1.ca/1yz98Oct 05 01:22
oiaohmLinux does have issues from being a Multi-headed HydraOct 05 01:24
schestowitzSomeOct 05 01:24
schestowitzSame with having many car brandsOct 05 01:24
schestowitze.g. car brakesOct 05 01:24
schestowitzLess testing time allotedOct 05 01:24
schestowitzFree market capitalism assume competition drives improvementsOct 05 01:25
oiaohmNow currently Linux distributions are really like invidiual snakes releated but fighting with each other.Oct 05 01:25
schestowitzSo it's a dradeoffOct 05 01:25
schestowitzBut the world has finite resourcesOct 05 01:25
oiaohmThe day Linux truly grows a common bodyOct 05 01:25
schestowitzWe need to collab in more areasOct 05 01:25
schestowitzLike kernek, drilling, search..Oct 05 01:25
oiaohmMS and a lot of companies will be in trouble.Oct 05 01:25
schestowitzHave 3 SEs means crawling x3 timesOct 05 01:26
schestowitzI.e. working more SE DCsOct 05 01:26
schestowitzAnd Web site DCs tooOct 05 01:26
oiaohmYou have noticed lot of the MS shills trying to kill off meego before it get started.Oct 05 01:26
schestowitzTo index in 3 placesOct 05 01:26
schestowitzDiffferentyOct 05 01:26
schestowitzLots of energy usedOct 05 01:26
schestowitzWe run outOct 05 01:26
oiaohmLike telling Nokia to go android over meego.Oct 05 01:26
oiaohmMeego threatens to grow Linux a body.Oct 05 01:26
schestowitz[01:26] <oiaohm> You have noticed lot of the MS shills trying to kill off meego before it get started.Oct 05 01:27
schestowitzWhere?Oct 05 01:27
schestowitzElop?Oct 05 01:27
schestowitzOh, that: [01:26] <oiaohm> Like telling Nokia to go android over meego.Oct 05 01:27
schestowitzNo, I made a similar pointOct 05 01:27
schestowitzDoesn't take shillsOct 05 01:27
schestowitzBut Android had Microsoft shills rallyingLOct 05 01:27
schestowitzLike that disgusting one Michael gartnerbergOct 05 01:27
schestowitz*gartnenbergOct 05 01:27
schestowitzTrying to associate Android with NazismOct 05 01:27
schestowitzOr Apple doing the same wry 'pron'Oct 05 01:28
schestowitz*wrtOct 05 01:28
schestowitzCause Android is winningOct 05 01:28
schestowitzHaters gonna hateOct 05 01:28
oiaohmYou made the point that Nokia should release android devices for profit even if the keep meegoOct 05 01:28
schestowitzBut @horaciog and his mafia suing is serious sutffOct 05 01:28
schestowitzOver the lineOct 05 01:28
oiaohmThe shills have been that Nokia should drop Meego completely.Oct 05 01:28
schestowitzSame with WebOS/HPOct 05 01:28
schestowitzAnd AndroidOct 05 01:29
schestowitzAvaya and Cisoc have Android tablets coingOct 05 01:29
oiaohmForgoting that Nokia has been making full distribution supporting phones for a long time.Oct 05 01:29
schestowitzSlate showed Vista 7 is inadequate for this form factorOct 05 01:29
oiaohmSo they are going to want something full.Oct 05 01:29
schestowitz"@schestowitz All I did was rephrase what the author of the bild article said. Sorry I'll be more clear about that next time ^^" http://identi.ca/conversation/53672049#notice-54128041Oct 05 01:30
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schestowitzI was not arguing, just remarking again :-)Oct 05 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] ♺ @christianbryant: Reading Art of Community, Jono Bacon, an #oreilly book. !oreilly is still my favorite for leadership books like this.Oct 05 01:30
schestowitzOK, let's post some links, IRC logs, then some new postsOct 05 01:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-rc6-git3 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 05 01:37
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schestowitzSilly people judging others by the cotton attached to then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTVwB6OKA5AOct 05 01:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT OLPC Expands Marvell Partnership For XO-3 Tablet - http://tcrn.ch/9OTfO7Oct 05 01:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Damn, 110MB of extra traffic from two Russian IPs of wasted bandwidth today on my blog :/Oct 05 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @flameeyes did you have to pay extra?Oct 05 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 4/10/2010: Codenames Needed for Fedora 15 , Linux-based Palm ‘Mansion’ Rumoured http://ur1.ca/1yzjl !techrightsOct 05 02:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Who are the criminals? http://ur1.ca/1yznhOct 05 02:24
dyfethttp://www.examiner.com/homeland-security-in-houston/scoop-gnu-telephony-challenges-wh-cites-cyber-snooping-unconstitutionalOct 05 02:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Has Mandriva blessed Mageia ? Or it will be an hostile fork ? Do u know anything about it ?Oct 05 02:29
WireWulfmehOct 05 02:30
WireWulfI am sticking to tinycore and mircocoreOct 05 02:30
hazzyDefinitely gonna check out MageiaOct 05 02:30
WireWulfi look at it this way I found something small that i likeOct 05 02:32
qu1j0t3that's what SHE saidOct 05 02:32
hazzyOhhhhhhhhhhhhOct 05 02:32
hazzy!Oct 05 02:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Just noticed that sources for @conservancy website are publicly available and under !AGPL http://sfconservancy.org/about/license/Oct 05 02:32
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WireWulfqu1j0t3: tisk tisk and we was so close to bein firendsOct 05 02:34
schestowitzqu1j0t3: she has old hardwareOct 05 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith they are competingOct 05 02:34
qu1j0t3WireWulf: but this is... male bondingOct 05 02:34
*WireWulf plants a bomb under qu1j0t3's deskOct 05 02:34
schestowitztinyClusterOct 05 02:34
qu1j0t3oh no! that would destroy a Mac G5, a PowerBook G4, and a NeXT cube, and possibly the Sun E450, two AMD dual rack servers, and a Sun Fire X2100Oct 05 02:34
qu1j0t3tragedyyyyOct 05 02:34
qu1j0t3and a MacbookOct 05 02:35
schestowitzPCbookOct 05 02:35
qu1j0t3and most likely the Linux PC too. :/Oct 05 02:35
schestowitzwith a BSD+skin on itOct 05 02:35
WireWulftoo many steven jobs companies for my tasteOct 05 02:35
schestowitzToilet seat-coloured casingOct 05 02:35
qu1j0t3WireWulf: then lament the Sun Fire X2100! only driven to colo on SundaysOct 05 02:35
hazzyWell, re: the Linux desktop: there must be some collateral damageOct 05 02:36
hazzyWe must destroy that other stuff anywayOct 05 02:36
qu1j0t3The E450 woudl probably cop it too. unprotected from the blast.Oct 05 02:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: @wheedlekat cried watching the blender foundation/Durian Project's Sintel. It really is a good/sad story http://sintel.orgOct 05 02:47
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WireWulfqu1j0t3: my hardware is not all that good tbhOct 05 02:48
qu1j0t3most of these are antique, WireWulf :)Oct 05 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Best of 'The Source': #Outercurve , #LibreOffice , #Mono, and #Novell 's Sale http://ur1.ca/1yzt7 #fud busting from JasonOct 05 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Palm planning keyboard-less 'Mansion' with 800 x 480 screen? http://ur1.ca/1yy5z Let's hope HP sticks w/ linuxOct 05 02:49
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WireWulfI got my old i486 by my feetOct 05 02:49
qu1j0t3cool!Oct 05 02:49
WireWulfboth my p4 linked beside meOct 05 02:49
hazzyManOct 05 02:49
hazzy486Oct 05 02:49
hazzyWowOct 05 02:49
WireWulfand my BSD p1s playing music :POct 05 02:50
qu1j0t3i put debian in a 486/66 around 1999, but the machine was already out of serviceOct 05 02:50
hazzyI'm too young to have ever gotten a 486Oct 05 02:50
WireWulfyerp i486 and still runsOct 05 02:50
qu1j0t3yes. niceOct 05 02:50
qu1j0t3the oldest machines i have in this apartment are MicroVAX IIsOct 05 02:50
WireWulfruns slack in text onlyOct 05 02:51
qu1j0t3depending on the intensity of your grenade, they may be sufficiently far from desk not be destroyedOct 05 02:51
WireWulfwas a bombOct 05 02:51
WireWulfbut the bomb was a dudOct 05 02:51
qu1j0t3hehOct 05 02:51
qu1j0t3so was my joke, so we're even!Oct 05 02:51
WireWulfmy 1486 has two proposesOct 05 02:52
WireWulf*i486Oct 05 02:52
WireWulf1 warm my feetOct 05 02:52
WireWulf2 sit there nd run a really old version of slackwareOct 05 02:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @openbytes LINK: 20 Reasons Linux Will Boom in a Post-Recession World http://tinyurl.com/34kkgvjOct 05 02:54
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WireWulflinux has been booming for awailOct 05 02:54
-NickServ-schestowitz has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)Oct 05 02:55
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WireWulfwb schestowitzOct 05 02:55
hazzyYes sirOct 05 02:55
schestowitzFreenode issueOct 05 02:56
WireWulfI need to get colour back into my cli linux :POct 05 02:56
qu1j0t3haha, amazing how we get attached to these little things.Oct 05 02:56
WireWulfblack and white is almost as depressing as DOS 6.xOct 05 02:57
*qu1j0t3 gulpsOct 05 02:57
hazzyMeh, I like CLI Linux better than DOSOct 05 02:57
qu1j0t3well, yes. it has a real shell.Oct 05 02:57
qu1j0t3dos is pure masochismOct 05 02:58
WireWulfsorry i like my text in multi colours :POct 05 02:58
qu1j0t3WireWulf: no argument, me too. one gets accustomed. like central heating.Oct 05 02:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi ♻ @threethirty ... cried watching the blender foundation/Durian Project's Sintel. It really is a good/sad story http://sintel.orgOct 05 02:59
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WireWulfheating?Oct 05 02:59
hazzySo, WireWulf, are you using irssi?Oct 05 02:59
WireWulfyupOct 05 03:00
hazzyGood choice :)Oct 05 03:00
hazzyBut without colors?Oct 05 03:00
WireWulfyup everything is black and whiteOct 05 03:01
WireWulf(black and gray)Oct 05 03:01
WireWulfbut you get the pointOct 05 03:01
hazzyYepOct 05 03:01
WireWulftho moc looks better without that horrid blue backgroundOct 05 03:02
hazzyI should really figure out why Perl scripts refuse to work for my irssi clientOct 05 03:03
WireWulfI should really learn Perl :POct 05 03:04
hazzyPython*Oct 05 03:04
*WireWulf is in the process of learning COct 05 03:05
hazzyOh, C, yeahOct 05 03:05
hazzyI still don't fully understand itOct 05 03:06
WireWulfand I use to joke about being a D dev and nows there really is a D programing languageOct 05 03:06
hazzyYes, I've heard about thatOct 05 03:06
WireWulfI have issues with itOct 05 03:06
qu1j0t3D has been around for quite a while.Oct 05 03:07
qu1j0t3WireWulf: why are you learning C?Oct 05 03:07
WireWulfcollege studentOct 05 03:07
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hazzyI just learned for fun :POct 05 03:08
WireWulfI am a CS and CE studentOct 05 03:10
hazzyOh manOct 05 03:10
ZiomatrixWelcome to the Jungle, we got fun and game! :-D http://tinyurl.com/2w8s65wOct 05 03:10
Ziomatrix Someone at Panasonic must have listened to too much Guns and Roses while being locked in a room with an Atari Jaguar and 3DO.Oct 05 03:10
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hazzyI have this suspicion that my most recent update broke my systemOct 05 03:10
hazzySo I mustn't reboot :SOct 05 03:11
Ziomatrixhazzy: is there anyway you can reboot into a safe mode?Oct 05 03:12
hazzyOh, yes, there is, good pointOct 05 03:12
ZiomatrixCommon sense wins again :-DOct 05 03:14
hazzyYes, I has failedOct 05 03:14
WireWulfCannon'sOct 05 03:15
*WireWulf fires hazzy Oct 05 03:15
*hazzy is a sad pandaOct 05 03:15
Ziomatrixhazzy: lol it reminds me of my electric shop teacher telling me a story of how he was with advanced College AP Robotics studies that had a machine that wasn't working, they didn't know what was wrong. So my teacher just knowing basic engineering managed to point out one of the resistors was placed in the wrong way.Oct 05 03:16
*WireWulf rehires hazzy at a lower pay rate and on probationOct 05 03:16
hazzyLol @ that story!Oct 05 03:18
hazzyAnd thanks :POct 05 03:18
hazzyThe wrong wayOct 05 03:19
Ziomatrixhazzy: I'm not familiar with resistors actually, he was only there to watch over us while we had detention. :-POct 05 03:20
ZiomatrixI was under the impression certain resistors had a negative positive polarity, it could be a tad more complicated then thatOct 05 03:21
hazzyYes, I assumed it was more complicated than that as wekkOct 05 03:21
hazzywell*Oct 05 03:21
Ziomatrixhazzy: perhaps what he meant was they were using the wrong kind of resistor for the circuit.Oct 05 03:21
WireWulfor he had it backwardsOct 05 03:22
ZiomatrixWireWulf: Thats what I thought he meantOct 05 03:22
WireWulfin some older resistors flow one way is resisticed wail the oher way would be a step-up transforumerOct 05 03:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Above all laws http://ur1.ca/1z047Oct 05 03:24
ZiomatrixWireWulf: did those go away with the vacume tube?Oct 05 03:24
WireWulfdunnoOct 05 03:25
WireWulftbh I sleep throw most of my non-computer classesOct 05 03:26
WireWulfhave a 4.3 in music and I have not even went to the classOct 05 03:26
hazzyAckOct 05 03:27
hazzyStupid ID3 tagsOct 05 03:27
WireWulfhazzy: pray to witich every god you feel right praying toOct 05 03:28
hazzyWellOct 05 03:28
hazzyIt wouldn't be such a big deal if I wasn't such a perfectionistOct 05 03:29
WireWulfI wished i was a perfectionistOct 05 03:29
hazzyIt requires disciplineOct 05 03:30
WireWulfno in requires not to b at every etail and not having a mind that is utter choasOct 05 03:31
hazzyOh, wow, someone submitted my playlist to StumbleUpon before I did (I had originally planned to)Oct 05 03:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BSA is a Hypocrite: Powered by !GNU !Linux and Won't Even Buy From #RedHat for Its Development of Software http://ur1.ca/1z07bOct 05 03:35
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ZiomatrixWireWulf: I find some folks with OCD tend to have emotional outbreaks and breakdowns from the littlest things sometimesOct 05 03:36
hazzyNight guysOct 05 03:37
qu1j0t3n8Oct 05 03:37
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ZiomatrixlatazOct 05 03:39
Ziomatrixwow, BSA is bad. Its like how RIAA touting record labels are caught not paying royalties to artist estates when they release Greatest Hits albums.Oct 05 03:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #BSA is a Hypocrite: Powered by GNU Linux & Wont Even Buy From #RedHat for Its Development of Software http://ur1.ca/1z07bOct 05 03:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice article about migrating from Spring to Java EE 6 - http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=61023 #fbOct 05 03:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Happy 25th to the @FSF. Thanks @rms for the vision of software freedom. Here's to 25 more years of increasing success.Oct 05 03:57
schestowitzZiomatrix: hiOct 05 04:03
schestowitzDid you see the webos news?Oct 05 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @mjjzf: Amused by criticism of serious use of FaiF Linux distributions. Do you think productivity will go up with the addition of Flash?Oct 05 04:05
schestowitzdyfet: I got a translation of your article to SpanishOct 05 04:09
schestowitzMay I publish that (I assume so)Oct 05 04:09
dyfetOh?!Oct 05 04:09
dyfetYes you may!  I am curious to see it also :)Oct 05 04:10
schestowitzAn activist from South AmericaOct 05 04:10
schestowitzdyfet: OKOct 05 04:10
dyfetWhat is the url?Oct 05 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Source: Windows Live Spaces Had Been 'Abandoned' by Majority of Users Before #Microsoft Gave Up (99% Will Die) http://ur1.ca/1z0hjOct 05 04:15
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schestowitzdyfet: hold onOct 05 04:18
schestowitzHe translated many of our articlesOct 05 04:18
dyfetvery cool in generalOct 05 04:18
schestowitzHe distributes these in S American schoolsOct 05 04:18
dyfetThat is excellentOct 05 04:18
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I haven't checked recently, por que?Oct 05 04:19
Ziomatrixhold on brbOct 05 04:19
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Ziomatrixback, si?Oct 05 04:21
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qu1j0t3siOct 05 04:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ¿Por qué importan libertades civiles – una carta abierta a la administración de Obama [ES] http://ur1.ca/1z0jh #obama !gnuOct 05 04:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Israeli settlers http://ur1.ca/1z0jiOct 05 04:25
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schestowitz_loghttp://identi.ca/conversation/53691886#notice-54148941 "@schestowitz Problem with your argument: Using CentOS over Red Hat is perfectly legitimate and not equivalent to the alleged 'pirating'.Oct 05 04:26
schestowitz_log"Oct 05 04:26
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schestowitzYes, obviously. That's why I used scare quotes in "pirates"Oct 05 04:27
schestowitzTechrights itself runs on centosOct 05 04:28
oiaohmAnd if you pay for redhat support they will help you with issues with centosOct 05 04:29
oiaohmNot that redhat cares either way as long as they are getting paid for support.Oct 05 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mesa 7.9 Has Now Been Released: Just as planned, Mesa 7.9 has now been released! This 7.9 release of this open-sou... http://bit.ly/8YGduxOct 05 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Air Pollution Appears To Foster Diabetes - Science News http://ur1.ca/1z0oyOct 05 04:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Medical Nobel Goes To Developer Of IVF - Science News http://ur1.ca/1z0p7Oct 05 04:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Chat With Other Tadpoles in Rumpetroll | Underwire | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/1z0qdOct 05 04:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Richard Stallman is our Richard Dawkins. Call him an ass, but he's the one keeping our focus on freedom for all computer users !fsf !lp !gnuOct 05 04:54
qu1j0t3hah.Oct 05 04:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Entryism Watch: Yahoo! Keeps Being Abducted by Microsoft Executives, HP Cancels Android Projects After CEO Appointment http://ur1.ca/1z105Oct 05 05:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Enjoy your visit http://ur1.ca/1z106Oct 05 05:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] it got late playing Monopoly. we'd take a picture of the board to continue tomorrow, but wouldn't that infringe on another monopoly?Oct 05 05:32
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papachangohttp://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/09/copyright-assignments-gone-wild-or-why.html   Does anyone know what ever became of this under reported blog entry? Canonical seems awful clumsy and I dont blame Aaron for refusing to sign.Oct 05 05:51
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papachango Has anyone from KDEe.V. or FSFE been in contact with Canonical to explain to them how its done? This is important because new communities (or actually old communities regrouping under a different organisational structure) of LibreOffice and Mageia will be looking at Canonical's actions and hopefully learn what to do (or not do) when assignment issues arise.Oct 05 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Will the Linux 2.4 kernel actually reach EOL by September 2011? http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1032254 #fbOct 05 05:54
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schestowitz"It looks to me like a known liar is tryoing to spread more lies. Sadly, your ethical inadequacies are even more noticeable." http://twitter.com/#!/jackschofield/status/26422870641Oct 05 05:59
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schestowitzI once got an article wrong by misidentifying a person with the same name and I corrected that articleOct 05 06:00
schestowitz@jackschofield a year ago you said Windows 7 "looks like Vista. Which I think is…uh…the thing I’m not supposed to say." Still true?Oct 05 06:01
schestowitz@jackschofield when you are "not supposed" to say the truth, what does that tell about your journalistic integrity?Oct 05 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @flameeyes I had the same problems which cost me time and bandwidth moneyOct 05 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Nokia #Ovi Suite sucks. updating takes 15 mins? That includes the download time of 1h of the firmware? Stability is also difficult? Crash!Oct 05 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @danishka Folks! BSA also not paying for Red Hat but the just use CentOS server LOL !linux #bsa #in #fbOct 05 06:14
schestowitz_loghttp://identi.ca/conversation/53699194#notice-54169519 "Sorry, it just came across like you hadn't thought of that."Oct 05 06:23
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schestowitzIt's the idea that if the BSA calls it "piracy", then they too can in some sense be called "pirates"Oct 05 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I think I'm done for the night. Lots of stuff to do tomorrow, including tracking down the problem with our HP-LJ1018 printer.Oct 05 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Roll over Orwell http://ur1.ca/1z1icOct 05 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Duke Nukem Forever Live Demo at Firstlook in Amsterdam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-97N6jNKb4 '... after 12 f*cking years it should be!'Oct 05 06:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I really hate it when #pingfm selects "default" when I wanted "plurk". Come on, #HelloTXT, just a little bit of improvement and I'm yours.Oct 05 06:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Brings Out the Vapourware and PR as the Stock (MSFT) Slides Almost to New Lows http://ur1.ca/1z1jjOct 05 06:30
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Tekk_how come I'm never around when you have the cool discussions? :POct 05 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101005 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 05 06:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] RT @nicoulas Benjamin Bayart at the next FSCONS! introducing FSFE's series of talks around "control of our communications" → http://link ...Oct 05 06:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] If there's a terroristic threat, saying the alert is HI doesn't prevent a/thing, but raises fear. Seeking more control again?Oct 05 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Windows Users Still Under Attack From #Stuxnet , #Halo , and #Zeus http://ur1.ca/1z1st #security #microsoftOct 05 06:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] A good example is the wi-fi decree, officer says: "oh, abolish control now, with mounting alert"? #waronterrorOct 05 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] where can I download the !CentOS 5.5 DVD for x86_64 without using the torrent? not always handy for a corporate environment (in China)Oct 05 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] finally setting up a system for the build environment which will be used for several projects. #Fedora #MeeGo #CentOS #MIPSOct 05 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Kill 'em all http://ur1.ca/1z23pOct 05 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I especially like the hairstyle: http://ur1.ca/1z2bn - well done, @jezra! :)Oct 05 07:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @schwarzprod Paid apps hit the Android Market in Belgium. Huray!Oct 05 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA: No More Negotiating Rounds Planned; Latest Text To Be Released - http://bit.ly/co8NPp bizarre situation #actaOct 05 08:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ISPs set to fight future IP data disclosure in the UK - http://bit.ly/cLbIU8 v. important shift #threestrikes #acslawOct 05 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Much Does Netflix Spend On Postage Each Year? - http://tcrn.ch/c2ESJn interesting points about #quora #searchOct 05 08:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BT seeks moratorium on internet piracy cases - http://bbc.in/aeSP11 more good fallout from #acslaw #piracy #btOct 05 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man.... I need #coffee....Oct 05 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh good idea...!Oct 05 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody Reminds me of Bretton-Woods. All a big show with prewritten outcome.Oct 05 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates-Funded Guardian ‘Writers’ Are Again Whitewashing Gates and Attacking #Microsoft Rivals http://ur1.ca/1z2mt #gmo #monsanto #odfOct 05 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Find and Reuse Images: Painless Attribution - http://bit.ly/cYvecs "Finding CC licensed images and using them properly" #cc #imagesOct 05 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Despite Rumors, MIT OpenCourseWare Insists "No Paywall" - http://rww.to/aX8nsU that's good #ocw #paywallsOct 05 08:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] new theory about why cats sleep so much: they have the most awesome dreams, to which they are hopelessly addicted.Oct 05 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] moderately more seriously, leaving tomorrow afternoon for europe. two weeks in switzerland, but 2 days in oslo first. work, then play.Oct 05 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK ISPs Successfully Resist File-Sharing Data Handover - http://bit.ly/aqSg5n more details #acslaw #threestrikesOct 05 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @aseigo I think you must be rightOct 05 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] re: Oslo: hoping that QtComponents is going to rock. potentially critical technology for future Qt. oh, & QML is coming to plasma in 4.6.Oct 05 08:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I Act as the Tongue of You: Poetry Resources Online - http://rww.to/cMASLb good to see #poetryOct 05 08:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Better off dead http://ur1.ca/1z2qiOct 05 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Don Tapscott on the growing influence of public participation - http://bit.ly/9a9dLX hardly a new idea, but good to see (via @garretkeogh)Oct 05 08:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple Gets Its Software Patents Lesson in #Texas http://ur1.ca/1z2t9 #swpats #patents #antitrust #monopolyOct 05 08:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @schestowitz what you feel LibreOffice and KDE would gain from such an arrangement? of course, we do already collaborate on file formats.Oct 05 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Burning Man's Open Source Cell Phone System Could Help Save the World - http://bit.ly/cSm8rK important stuff #opensource #voipOct 05 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Head of Digital Scholarship at the British Library - http://bit.ly/cPiFaD form an orderly queue #bl #scholarshipOct 05 08:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @chani Activity Screencast! http://blip.tv/file/4203285Oct 05 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: Burning Man's Open Source Cell Phone System Could Help Save the World - http://bit.ly/cSm8rK <revolution happens everywhereOct 05 08:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @aseigo Back in the days KOffice people helped ODF by publicly collaborating with Sun's OOo. It looks good wrt sharing. #odfOct 05 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !mysql cluster in 15 minutes: http://www.clusterdb.com/mysql/download-install-configure-run-and-test-mysql-cluster-in-under-15-minutes/Oct 05 08:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] glad to see #possesa off to a good start!Oct 05 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Intel #E1000 network driver for #Windows is 25.8Mb ? you're kidding me?! so that is where they put the gigabits!Oct 05 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @schestowitz a positive thing that is still happening to this day. much more important than supportive quotes on a web site.Oct 05 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @schestowitz political gestures aside, its substantive hard work with results that has value. we do odf, LibreOffice is not KDE's struggle.Oct 05 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @schestowitz some F/OSS quarters have too much internal politics, public grandstanding and general interference.Oct 05 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Walter Bender Back with OLPC Association, But Not Necessarily Negroponte - http://bit.ly/dmpuN3 fun & games continue #olpcOct 05 09:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @aseigo I was thinking about TDF more than about #LibreOffice for KDEOct 05 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Nice free online file converter: http://www.freefileconvert.com/Oct 05 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @aseigo seehttp://identi.ca/conversation/53743535#notice-54199374 http://identi.ca/conversation/53741112#notice-54196251Oct 05 09:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @schestowitz and the difference between TDF and LibreOffice is .... ?Oct 05 09:17
-NickServ-schestowitz has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)Oct 05 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Sorry, user Jack Schofield does not exist here" If only.Oct 05 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @schestowitz if TDF was about ODF, it would make all kinds of sense. but it's not. it's about a fork of OO.o.Oct 05 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @schestowitz there is nothing wrong with that in the least, but it also means there's little reason for KDE to wade into the middle of it.Oct 05 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @aseigo project vs steering/umbrellaOct 05 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @schestowitz a steering committee / umbrella for what?Oct 05 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @aseigo fair points.Oct 05 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google Has Already Paid #Microsoft for #ActiveSync , So What's the Problem? http://ur1.ca/1z3bb #API #protocol #swpats #motorola #androidOct 05 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Chilcot inquiry rolls on http://ur1.ca/1z3bwOct 05 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to a series of middle class women on radio savage at having their benefits removed.Oct 05 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is notable that issues which affect poor people are so much less newsworthy.Oct 05 09:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Opera Rejects Software Patents and Vincent Van Quickenborne (Minister of Economy) Quick to Push Them Into Europe http://ur1.ca/1z3ic #swpatsOct 05 09:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu 10.10 CDs Are Available In The !Canonical Store http://goo.gl/qz3IOct 05 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Owens: #Sintel FanArt by Ihara http://goo.gl/ZDAyOct 05 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Search youtube, vimeo for gource - wonderful movies on open source projects. Loving it. #gource #possesaOct 05 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] James Westby: #Couchapp Walkthrough: Part 2: How data gets to the user http://goo.gl/cR6WOct 05 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: #Subsonic - OpenSource Web Based Media Streamer for Windows, Mac and Linux http://goo.gl/pH93Oct 05 10:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Having a Teekanne Forest Fruits tea...Oct 05 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Heading over to @ilka's place to hang out with @opensourcegeek.Oct 05 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] going through my old distro CDs to throw out the old ones like ubuntu 6.10, fedora 7, mandriva 2005 !oevrduespringcleanOct 05 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Twitter founder steps down as CEO - http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-11473020Oct 05 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !OverdueSpringClean not to be confused with Bruce's brother !ObidiaSpringsteen ;)Oct 05 10:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BT seeks freeze on "piracy" cases - http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-11467347Oct 05 10:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ready to git around at #possesaOct 05 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] American Gestapo http://ur1.ca/1z3z0Oct 05 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Rhythmbox Album Art Search Plugin Ubuntu PPA ~ Web Upd8 http://ping.fm/F7nwVOct 05 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Insprit Joins Linux Foundation - TMCnet http://ping.fm/DQuwEOct 05 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Patent System Gone Crazy: Patents on Paris Hilton's Hair, Thanks to Maximalists http://ur1.ca/1z415 #swpatsOct 05 10:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Paid apps now visible in India in the !android market. installed the skype client on the !N1 too. Test call worksOct 05 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @maco My Blog: Help Bryen out: Bryen Yunashko of GNOME Accessibility had his equipment stolen. He's in Spain for the GN... http://bi ...Oct 05 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having a coffee with @opensourcegeek.Oct 05 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With ‘Cloud Computing’ You Can’t Keep Your Data Under Your Control http://ur1.ca/1z4bc #fogcomputing #lockin #twitter #identica #propellerOct 05 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] UK floating policy to make prisoners work for 40 hours at min wage. Too complex for 140 can't wait to hear what Prisoner Ben has to say.Oct 05 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How Fake Money Saved Brazil http://ur1.ca/1z4f8Oct 05 11:10
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oiaohmGreat last link broken  Diablo-D3  I would find how fake money saved brazil if I could get to it.Oct 05 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Nobel Prize in Physics 2010 - http://bit.ly/bKbLSP wow, 2 more for the UK, at least nominally... (via @phylogenomics)Oct 05 11:12
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oiaohmOk I left out the word interesting.Oct 05 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] 50% of the good feeling of buying IT is waiting its arrival. 40% discovering use w/o TFM and hacking, 10% actual use (dull) #geekOct 05 11:14
Diablo-D3oiaohm: no the url works fineOct 05 11:15
Diablo-D3I just clicked on it to make sureOct 05 11:15
Diablo-D3http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/10/04/130329523/how-fake-money-saved-brazilOct 05 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Now I'm waiting my new HTC Desire. Hope for @fabsh's sake I won't be disappointed ;-)Oct 05 11:15
Diablo-D3it goes thereOct 05 11:15
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schestowitz-TRIdentica/#techrights- [dpic/@dpic] Richard Stallman is our Richard Dawkins. Call him an ass, but he's the one keeping our focus on freedom for all computer users !fsf !lp !gnuOct 05 11:16
schestowitzThey are too different in some waysOct 05 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Demoing SwiftKey for @opensourcegeek. It's pretty cool and fast.Oct 05 11:17
oiaohmOk now the link is working sorry Diablo-D3 when I first clicked on it I got did not exist in database.  Now by some magic it oes.Oct 05 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] BeagleBoard upgraded into 1ghz dual core Cortex-A9 PandaBoard http://ur1.ca/1z4f8 !linuxOct 05 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] JPEGs with alpha channels hack http://ur1.ca/1z4gx #wtfOct 05 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody two-dimensional material, wow! (although I know of one-dimensional material found in male young men's brain).Oct 05 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear #gwibber. If I reply to a direct message, reply should be a direct message, don't you agree? UI #failOct 05 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxkernel Linux kernel next-20101005 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kerneOct 05 11:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @carlopiana oops, that's a critical bug. /me searches the bug tracker.Oct 05 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Biodiversity 100 http://ur1.ca/1z4ksOct 05 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @smaffulli Introducing the Alessi Tab, designer tablet for the kitchen, recipes and TV included http://bit.ly/brLBAj <from my hometown :-)Oct 05 11:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bloody hell! @opensourcegeek has addicted me with Angry Birds! Damn it!!!Oct 05 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @aseigo RT @chani Activity Screencast! http://blip.tv/file/4203285Oct 05 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana You won't be disappointed. It's awesome!Oct 05 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera It is notable that issues which affect poor people are so much less newsworthy. > who do you think writes the news? :-)Oct 05 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera Twitter founder steps down as CEO - http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-11473020Oct 05 11:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz That is exactly what I was thinking as I wrote.Oct 05 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz I thought I saw some very late posts followed by early ones, get some kipOct 05 12:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My beloved Nexus One decided to go for full crash. Needed to do a hard reset, losing all apps. #notamusedOct 05 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Breaking the noise barrier: Enter the phonon computer - http://bit.ly/aN9Aik sounds cool #phonons #computingOct 05 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Symantec Ubiquity - http://bit.ly/99BMZK hardly ubiquitous: the problem is on Windows, never mentioned of course #symantec #failOct 05 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody Breaking the noise barrier: Enter the phonon computer - http://bit.ly/aN9Aik sounds cool #phonons #computingOct 05 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody Symantec Ubiquity - http://bit.ly/99BMZK hardly ubiquitous: the problem is on Windows, never mentioned of course #symantec ...Oct 05 12:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Gates Foundation holds shares in Monsanto http://ur1.ca/1z58dOct 05 12:32
cubevectorwell this openbsd is rather differentOct 05 12:37
cubevectorit's been a whileOct 05 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why does this still look cruel even though the rat isn't in pain? http://ping.fm/KADs8Oct 05 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Internet Explorer falls below 50 percent global marketshare, Chrome usage triples http://ping.fm/4V37wOct 05 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Debian squeezes !Chromium back in http://ping.fm/hVrbDOct 05 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Software Freedom Conservancy appoints Kuhn as full-time executive director http://ping.fm/eim2TOct 05 12:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] O HAI Microsoft; I'm in ur Technology Summit 2010, spreading da freedomz and eating ur cakez.Oct 05 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US, EU settle food fight in anti-counterfeit pact - http://bit.ly/c403wa pity #actaOct 05 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Black Duck Software acquires Ohloh.net - http://bit.ly/914XaX concentration good or bad? #opensourceOct 05 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] new McCoys flavour found "Chicken Jalfrezi" fucking awesome, but "limited edition" aka "don't get too attached" :( #McCoysOct 05 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The real cost of free - http://bit.ly/9lF90X well-written, calm take-down by @doctorow (via @rlancefield) #free #businessmodelsOct 05 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @silner "touching slugs?" is that another way of saying "shaking hands with politicians?"Oct 05 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !McCoys do seem to have the "giveth with one hand while taking away with the other" - spread the word, Chicken Jalfrezi MUST STAYOct 05 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IMDb Relents And Allows BitTorrent Movie The Tunnel a Listing - http://bit.ly/9hxBOE why it's always worth squawking #imdbOct 05 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @thistleweb That could be catchphrase :)Oct 05 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hull man guilty of snooping on hundreds of medical records - http://bit.ly/9VwJyX suspended sentence - oh, that's *harsh* #privacy #dbsOct 05 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I'd completely forgotten that my 1st day as Executive Director of !Conservancy was 25th anniversary of !FSF. Birthday attack & all,but stillOct 05 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @bkuhn I'd completely forgotten that my 1st day as Executive Director of !Conservancy was 25th anniversary of !FSF. Birthday attack & ...Oct 05 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody Hull man guilty of snooping on hundreds of medical records - http://bit.ly/9VwJyX suspended sentence - oh, that's *harsh* ...Oct 05 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @silner: Software Freedom Conservancy appoints @bKuhn as full-time executive director http://ping.fm/eim2TOct 05 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Patent Granting Milestone - http://bit.ly/aBCO8x a bad one: "USPTO will grant at least 33% more utility patents in 2010 than in 2009"Oct 05 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Monsanto's Fortunes Turn Sour - http://bit.ly/bIUNNm "This may be the worst stock of 2010": emperor loses clothes... #monsantoOct 05 13:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Interesting Ballmer mentioning "pre-tax profit" as I wasn't aware MS actually paid any tax http://bit.ly/dluelF !TaxAvoidanceOct 05 13:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "he can have a free xbox if he got rid of that damn phone" aka can't compete, and only people who are bribed will use itOct 05 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] live by the sword, die by the sword #swpatents #Apple http://bbc.in/b7zyZgOct 05 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Foreign illegal fishing rampant off African coast http://ur1.ca/1z5v4Oct 05 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC are saying reliable government source has said there will be a married couples allowance this parliament. If true this is panic.Oct 05 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] 911: Can you hear me now? http://bit.ly/deL5nb #openstandards #interoperability #fccOct 05 13:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I gotta say, I like the new look #Channel4 site http://bit.ly/crRYSr they still need to fix their RSS feed thoughOct 05 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internet Explorer Falls Below 50% Global Market Share. Chrome on the rise - http://bit.ly/bKlez8 going down #ie #browsers #chromeOct 05 13:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn: using Skype is pointless if you both have a SIP account that works perfectly for what it's designed for (voice calls)Oct 05 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn you could always used cross breeds of parrots and carrier pigeons, listen, deliver then repeat, although are birds properly FOSS? ;)Oct 05 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "today I will mostly be recompiling a pigeon"#Oct 05 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, Agreed. Both @x1101 & I've offered to help !lo guys setup SIP w/ #Asterisk. But,as @sandersch said, they're freedom hating. :)Oct 05 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good run around Jurong Hill Kept the pack more or less together and all the shiggy jurong can offer! On on.Oct 05 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @thistleweb, well, IETF RFCs 1149 & 2549 already proves what you suggest will work, but latency is pretty damn horrible. http://ur1.ca/1z5ytOct 05 13:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I need a way to check architecture with a !bash script on !Linux in a if statement, need a suggestion to do it please?Oct 05 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What the fuck is it with this place, I haven't posted all day, and now it complains that too many duplicate messages?Oct 05 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] need a way to check architecture with a !bash script on !Linux in a if statement, need a suggestion to do it please?Oct 05 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Via @glynmoody: #warofbrowsers won? I like to think that I and !FSFE have done some good stuff again for #competition http://is.gd/fLYTAOct 05 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn: # apt-get install coffee-machine won't work I guess... sometimes we give huge benefits for granted (as in APT)Oct 05 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nobel prizewinner Geim also won 2000 Ig Nobel Prize - http://bit.ly/biFkjw "for using magnets to levitate a frog" (via @malicia) #nobelOct 05 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Geeknet Sells Open Source Directory Ohloh To Black Duck Software http://ur1.ca/1z64yOct 05 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sharing my 3G from my #NexusOne via wifi tethering with @opensourcegeek so he doesn't have to pay roaming fees. Pretty nifty....Oct 05 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @glynmoody: Nobel prizewinner Geim also won 2000 Ig Nobel Prize http://bit.ly/biFkjw "for using magnets to levitate a frog" (via @malicia)Oct 05 14:10
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amarsh04back later, loading new kernelOct 05 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone else spot Ballmers "yeah, we'd rather not have competition" line about phones in the Guardians piece?Oct 05 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Beautiful new page for !gnu !linux #libre #distro: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html Check it out and download GNU! !fsf !lpOct 05 14:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: ADeskBar 0.4, Available For Download (a lightweight application launcher for #Openbox) http://goo.gl/lzmAOct 05 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @mjjzf Interesting Darwinian point heard on !NYC subway: If short & chubby was unattractive, natural selection would have eliminated ...Oct 05 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Muito forte: Algumas coisas custam mais do que se pensa -- MK Ultra (MTV Exit: Some Things Cost More Than You Realise) http://t.co/c2mWforOct 05 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Right wing watch http://ur1.ca/1z6hzOct 05 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching Bleach 291 !animeOct 05 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @glynmoody Internet Explorer Falls Below 50% Global Market Share. Chrome on the rise - http://bit.ly/bKlez8 going down #ie #chromeOct 05 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: #possesa - day 2 - patching, translating, concentration http://ur1.ca/1z6okOct 05 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New Jersey to use Traffic Prediction Tool to warn drivers of future bottlenecks (GCN) http://bit.ly/9yNx1uOct 05 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Debian squeezes Chromium back in" from http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2010/10/Debian_squeezes_Chromium_back_in/Oct 05 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Make sudo forget password instantly | commandlinefu.com" from http://ur1.ca/1z6qiOct 05 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @seeds: "Debian squeezes Chromium back in" from http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2010/10/Debian_squeezes_Chromium_back_in/Oct 05 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @branchplan: http://bit.ly/9Dvbob Interview on the innovative #FOSS project Novacut #ubuntu #gnu #linuxOct 05 15:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: With ‘Cloud Computing’ You Can’t Keep Your Data Under Your Control http://ur1.ca/1z4bc #fogcomputing #lockinOct 05 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #Patent System Gone Crazy: Patents on Paris Hilton's Hair, Thanks to Maximalists http://ur1.ca/1z415 #swpatsOct 05 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #Google Has Already Paid #Microsoft for #ActiveSync , So What's the Problem? http://ur1.ca/1z3bb #swpats #motorola #androidOct 05 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Cyanogen Mod sounds like a Part-robot leader of a Mod army, arch enemy of Cyanogen Rocker ala TransformersOct 05 15:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #Apple Gets Its Software Patents Lesson in #Texas http://ur1.ca/1z2t9 #swpats #patents #antitrust #monopolyOct 05 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Bill Gates-Funded Guardian ‘Writers’ Are Again Whitewashing Gates and Attacking #Microsoft Rivals http://ur1.ca/1z2mtOct 05 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #Windows Users Still Under Attack From #Stuxnet , #Halo , and #Zeus http://ur1.ca/1z1st #security #microsoftOct 05 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @pragmart: Adonthell: An #opensource Roleplaying #game http://ur1.ca/1z2h5 #fs !gnu !linux !windows !macos !beos !solarisOct 05 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC tech team constantly working to ensure level of service http://labs.creativecommons.org/2010/10/05/well-covered/ #geekOct 05 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Intellectual Property Will Save the British Economy" - http://bit.ly/b60t63 read these reports of people's positions, and weep #cluelessOct 05 15:24
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schestowitz> The foundation has never been upfront about its vision for agricultureOct 05 15:25
schestowitz> in the world's poorest countries, nor the role of controversialOct 05 15:25
schestowitz> technologies like GM. But perhaps it could start the debate here?Oct 05 15:25
schestowitz>Oct 05 15:25
schestowitz> In the meantime, it could tell us how many of its senior agriculturalOct 05 15:25
schestowitz> staff used to work for Monsanto or Cargill?Oct 05 15:25
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/poverty-matters/2010/sep/29/gates-foundation-gm-monsantoOct 05 15:25
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gnufreexschestowitz: Lefty defends FM, attacks JRA http://lwn.net/Articles/408443/Oct 05 15:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] did I mention I found a new !McCoys flavour earlier? Chicken Jalfrezi #NotSoHiddenAgenda !TheMakeChickenJalfreziPermenantDeptOct 05 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Still can speak at least a little Spanish. Succeeded in politely asking janitor at new office to clean office & where I'd wait while she didOct 05 15:29
schestowitzI know...Oct 05 15:32
schestowitzTell JRA not to mess with themOct 05 15:32
schestowitzIt feed them and they are recklessOct 05 15:33
schestowitzI spent too much time on this tooOct 05 15:33
schestowitzFed the people whom I should not have.... even Chopra's drones are still sending me nonsenseOct 05 15:33
schestowitzLike this hours agoOct 05 15:33
schestowitz"Cellular level consciousness means intelligence, an ability to make decisions, and an ability to communicate outside itself." http://twitter.com/IAMSpirituality/status/26318782076Oct 05 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / I AM Spirituality: @schestowitz Cellular leve ... .::. Size~: 12.83 KBOct 05 15:33
gnufreexIt is interesting that Lefty is responding instead FMOct 05 15:33
schestowitzWait WOT????Oct 05 15:34
schestowitz:-)Oct 05 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The Governator vs. Proposition 23 http://ur1.ca/1z777Oct 05 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] "I just plain didn't like the application :-)" states @ashcrow about @googlewave | http://bit.ly/dwYPMi #collaborationOct 05 15:34
schestowitz"Cellular level consciousness"Oct 05 15:34
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schestowitzThat's the BS Chopra spreadsOct 05 15:34
schestowitzMixing quantum physics with his BSOct 05 15:34
Diablo-D3man, everyone hates ChopraOct 05 15:34
schestowitzJRA is an extremist /sarcasOct 05 15:35
schestowitzWait till they start a site to 'expose' him :-) :-)Oct 05 15:35
gnufreexThey say he is guilty because Google don't contribute backOct 05 15:35
schestowitzDiablo-D3: CHopra unleashed his 300k+ Twitter drone at meOct 05 15:35
schestowitzWasted ~3 hours of my timeOct 05 15:36
Diablo-D3why are you even on twitterOct 05 15:36
schestowitzI was only on idetica firstOct 05 15:36
schestowitzBut I couldn't message some people like @glynmoodyOct 05 15:36
gnufreexSo he is no better than those patent advocates, since he is employee of evil google /sacasmOct 05 15:36
schestowitzSome FOSS people create twitter alter-egos tooOct 05 15:36
schestowitzgnufreex: I saw that attack on him lats yearOct 05 15:37
schestowitzCause he defended me on /.Oct 05 15:37
schestowitzRegarding something about NovellOct 05 15:37
Diablo-D3I refuse to use twitterOct 05 15:37
Diablo-D3no facebook eitherOct 05 15:37
schestowitzI could find the link..Oct 05 15:37
gnufreexIt is now more of the same. Just not so explicit. Read lefty response I linked.Oct 05 15:37
cubevectora lot of the old commodore folks I knew are on facebookOct 05 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Playing Dirt 2 with @opensourcegeek.Oct 05 15:39
cubevectorit's interesting, when I ask the hard-core people who still use Amigas, none of them said they used them for web browsingOct 05 15:39
cubevectorsame situation for AROSOct 05 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody that's the same USA have thought 20yrs ago. Now they're more or less a subsidiary of China and still don't realize it. #cluelessOct 05 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Joined Foursquare because @opensourcegeek is on there as well. I must say it's come a long way. It's much better than Gowalla now...Oct 05 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] #Oracle said No to hand-over of the #OpenOffice name: http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2270858/oracles-ready-solo-openoffice !fsf !lpitaliaOct 05 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @aseigo apologies if this was counter productive...Oct 05 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Oh, htcsense.com. HTC to cut grass under BlackBerry's feet. Nice, but still a cloud service and I don't trust them (or a/body) w/ my dataOct 05 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] had a nap, headache's goneOct 05 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @graziano: #Oracle said No to hand-over of the #OpenOffice name: ur1.ca/1z7lcOct 05 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana ... Introducing the Alessi Tab, designer tablet for the kitchen, recipes and TV included http://bit.ly/brLBAjOct 05 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @WorldGlobalPR: #NetNeutrality is a multi-faceted, complex issue. Wouldn't you rather look at a pic of Snooki eating a hotdog? #gotosleepOct 05 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @motters: Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser falls below 50% of worldwide market for first time http://is.gd/fMbASOct 05 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Breaking the noise barrier: Enter the phonon computer - http://bit.ly/aN9Aik sounds cool #phonons #computingOct 05 16:10
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cubevectorgot menuetos to boot for the first time todayOct 05 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Hm I got a Core i3 box where sensors (coretemp) reports temperatures over 100°C in short bursts… yet there is no hot air coming out.#WorriedOct 05 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner that experiment on a rat is better than the analogous ones they do on monkeys, which is mind-troublingOct 05 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just went to twitter for the first time in a long while to read the whole rcweir/schestowitz/jackschofield conversation... in parts not niceOct 05 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Nokia's MeeGo device chief quits -- Engadget http://bit.ly/avJGneOct 05 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having a Weizen at @ilka's place....Oct 05 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] BlackBerry Tip: Add "Slang" to Dictionary to Reduce Unwanted Spell-Check Corrections (CIO) http://bit.ly/bMKkDDOct 05 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb Interesting Ballmer mentioning "pre-tax profit" as I wasn't aware MS actually paid any tax http://bit.ly/dluelF !TaxAvoidanceOct 05 16:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Live at the LSE: Steve Ballmer on the cloud and the future of Microsoft's business | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 134 KBOct 05 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera it goes way back; I'm surprised he's rude though, not just to me. Maybe tough time for him...Oct 05 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] Charles Francis Adams Jr.: "He who owns the thing knows that he must also own [that] which regulates the thing."Oct 05 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] What's next? http://ur1.ca/1z7vtOct 05 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM overhypes Lotus Notes for mobile, swipes at Android (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/c9bJG5Oct 05 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb live by the sword, die by the sword #swpatents #Apple http://bbc.in/b7zyZg >quick! We need more trolls 2 sue Apple 2 sober upOct 05 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz When I read his posts I was wondering how retirement/semi-retirement was going for him.Oct 05 16:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera yes, see his snide remarks at @rcweir (that's why I mentioned him at all)Oct 05 16:35
cubevectorwow heard a new slang term todayOct 05 16:40
cubevector"Losedoze-class systems"Oct 05 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera in "BBC are saying reliable government source" s/saying/a/ . Which paper is left that's independent other than Guardian (bought)?Oct 05 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @lessig I thought for a sec that was Moadeeb "he who can destroy a thing, owns a thing" !spice !DuneOct 05 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is natural to expect that #ODF will be greener than #OOXML . Only the most bloated office suite 'supports' something resembling OOXML.Oct 05 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh Angry Birds sounds like a Harry Potter game invented by Hermione ;)Oct 05 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb "today I will mostly be recompiling a pigeon"#Oct 05 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] my eBook needs the PC to be on to charge from usb, noted after an overnight "charge" which turned out not to charge anything !lessonsOct 05 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ebook reader evenOct 05 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The OpenOffice fork is officially here (Computerworld) http://lwn.net/Articles/408588/rssOct 05 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Physics Nobel Honors Work on Ultra-Thin Carbon Film (NYTimes) http://nyti.ms/bq3e43Oct 05 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz Perhaps any organisation that sets themselves up to report or deliver an opinion should have to register conflicts of interestOct 05 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] My Business Strategy http://is.gd/fMfrmOct 05 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb LOL!Oct 05 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz I could not imagine the Guardian disagreeing with that so perhaps they should do the same.Oct 05 16:50
gnufreexschestowitz: Can you find last that last year /. attack on JRA. I can't find it, but had it some days ago.Oct 05 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @lwnnet: The OpenOffice fork is officially here (Computerworld) http://lwn.net/Articles/408588/rssOct 05 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb anyone else spot Ballmers "yeah, we'd rather not have competition" line about phones in the Guardians piece?Oct 05 16:55
gnufreexhttp://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2010/10/red-hat-settles-patent-case-wi.htmlOct 05 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Does GM Now Have a "Pass" to Use IP From Other Car Makers? - http://bit.ly/aMOV66 "patents not secured as constitutional "private property""Oct 05 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Fall campaign just launched: Join @creativecommons in the fight for openness and innovation! Donate & spread the word! http://bit.ly/cjZ5JhOct 05 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RD @opensourcegeek Who is this on !LO http://ur1.ca/1z89iOct 05 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @rmack India could scrap black-box voting, thanks to researchers exposed serious vulnerabilites http://bit.ly/bbXTcd >>excellent #indiaOct 05 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off back home. I need to cook dinner....Oct 05 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gnufreex here is the link you asked for http://techrights.org/2010/03/10/w3c-monodevelop-and-win-lockin/Oct 05 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: Fall campaign just launched: Join !cc in the fight for openness & innovation! Donate & spread the word! bit.ly/cjZ5JhOct 05 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !MS seem to be good at dominating where they create the market, then block all competition and set the bar that people expect !addictionOct 05 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @schestowitz ThanksOct 05 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] any market that exists before !MS enter, they fail as someone else has already set the bar, that they can't reach !phones !mp3playersOct 05 17:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] another brilliant picture of Steve Ballmer (at London School of Economics) http://is.gd/fMhwEOct 05 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] good as in !lobbying !bullying !antitrust !corruption !strongarming !patentabuse etcOct 05 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] meeting with lawyer, finish packing, then off to airport and off to Oslo, baby.Oct 05 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz The Guardian will not admit it was bought but it hopefully will conclude it was wrong or at least it can't get away with it.Oct 05 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Par @ChristianFaure : « Des techniques relationnelles aux technologies relationnelles » http://tinyurl.com/354excrOct 05 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] A #Disturbing Combo: #BlackDuck buys Ohloh: bit.ly/dutDt4 #Ohloh was already proprietary, now can only get worse. Use @openhatchery instead!Oct 05 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn call me curious but why do you shorten the links but remove the http:// part that makes them clicky?Oct 05 17:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia's MeeGo device chief quits http://ur1.ca/1z71t Microsoft comes in as CEO, !linux comes out, #entryismOct 05 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] NOVL slides. #deathspiral http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:NOVLOct 05 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] *sighs* why does realmedia as format still exist. #mediatomb now does transcoding for our #samsung tvOct 05 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Starting to learn #Emacs #lisp to get the most out of #emacs.Recommended starting places -> http://bit.ly/cU56zf and http://bit.ly/cZS41AOct 05 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Cooking dinner...Oct 05 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Are we seeing a Yahoofication of Nokia? VMware too became occupied by Microsoft executives after Tucci/Ballmer had decided to overthrow.Oct 05 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Starting to learn #emacs-#lisp to get the most out of Emacs. Great starting places -> http://bit.ly/cU56zf and http://bit.ly/cZS41AOct 05 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EuroParl to Commission: Not so Fast on #ACTA. Three Cheers for Democracy & Transparency: https://eff.org/r.2sDOct 05 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Cell Phone Service Coming to NYC Subway Stations by End of 2011(Gawker) http://bit.ly/b5SPEdOct 05 17:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Proposition 19 http://ur1.ca/1z8lfOct 05 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EuroParl to Commission: Not so Fast on #ACTA. Three Cheers for Democracy & Transparency: https://eff.org/r.2sDOct 05 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: @NYT Editorial An Illegal Search, by #GPS https://eff.org/r.5sEOct 05 17:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @osc: http://www.documentfoundation.org is #blacklisted in ur1.ca and is.gd < ??? Any explanation?Oct 05 17:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oh, now, that's why PulseAudio sucks so much: Gnome tool... Bleargh...Oct 05 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Do you understand taxation? http://moourl.com/u33y4Oct 05 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmmm! Tortels! :DOct 05 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @pavithran: ♻ @osc http://www.documentfoundation.org is #blacklisted in ur1.ca and is.gd #libreofficeOct 05 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Playing some #civ5 now....Oct 05 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Watched sintel - The open movie project : http://www.sintel.org/Oct 05 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Techrights strives to provide information about entities that promote and impede person freedom.All convictions may hurt someone's feelingsOct 05 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @bkuhn nah, he looks at Mick's watch first iirc.Oct 05 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Black Duck acquires Ohloh http://lwn.net/Articles/408617/rssOct 05 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@jackschofield because of your age and the age of some of the people who defend your side right now, I don't want to descend to your level.Oct 05 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @pingjockey don't listen to the haterz! Keep doing what your doing! // you're right, I got distracted for a momentOct 05 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cameron seems to have confirmed that middle class concerns about loosing their benefits will be addressed by a tax concession.Oct 05 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vinzv: Die Post failt hart: Filiale im steht im Netz, existiert aber gar nicht mehr. Gnah.Oct 05 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@stonemirror I was not laughing at you or him. I meant what I said and I'd appreciate speaking about _issues_.I put you on ignore now, Sir.Oct 05 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] watching #TED guy talks about #ubuntu with no reference to it's tech meaning. he was referring to the #African meaning.Oct 05 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] BMC tackles capacity oversight with Neptuny buy (Network World): http://bit.ly/ay7bF8Oct 05 18:22
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Diablo-D3hey royOct 05 18:23
Diablo-D3I'd like to inform youOct 05 18:23
Diablo-D3thatOct 05 18:23
Diablo-D3you've been trolledOct 05 18:23
Diablo-D3and you fell for it hook line and sinkerOct 05 18:23
Diablo-D3not sure who those guys are, but manOct 05 18:24
Diablo-D3you fell right into their trapOct 05 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @joabj Physics Nobel Honors Work on Ultra-Thin Carbon Film (NYTimes) http://nyti.ms/bq3e43Oct 05 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I'll get back to posting some Linux links soon. What an unproductive afternoon, at least the headache passed w/o aspirinOct 05 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... The final #civ5 tech quote is from George W. Bush? OoOct 05 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @thistleweb on the web interface it is clickable. You should probably report a bug to pino developers.Oct 05 18:29
cubevectorhmmm?Oct 05 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #OpenOffice fork is officially here http://ur1.ca/1ywzy Good as an #ORCL fallback at the leastOct 05 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I think that a suspected paedophile has been jailed in UK for not revealing his password. Where does this one end? #governmentmustknowOct 05 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Palestinian-Israeli peace talks continue http://ur1.ca/1z9apOct 05 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Asks Court to Toss Oracle’s Android Lawsuit - http://bit.ly/bhKrqa should hope so too #google #android #oracleOct 05 18:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] internal Microsoft doc reveals an admission the company's a mess http://ur1.ca/1z9egOct 05 18:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] DRM and us - http://bit.ly/9orMjd watch as someone gets it before our eyes #drm #privacy #freedomOct 05 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The person who mailed me a pointer to that last item chose the subject line: "End days for Ballmer?" >with or without Ballmer, cash cows dieOct 05 18:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "An internal [MSFT] document, seen by The Register, was farmed out today [...] its current identity crisis." http://ur1.ca/1z9egOct 05 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hey Oracle!!! http://bit.ly/9FaPqoOct 05 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Poetic Licence - BSD - http://bit.ly/c0HP0N in iambic tetrameters (more or less): classy #bsd #licenses #poetryOct 05 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Carlos Vereza: "Adivinhem quem é o Ali Babá" http://t.co/OAEs8l8Oct 05 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb !MS seem to be good at dominating where they create [..] block all competition and set the bar that people expect !addictionOct 05 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Engage cylon mode: Just started a war with the last remaining nation by attacking them with four nukes. #civ5Oct 05 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gnufreex NOVL slides. #deathspiral http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:NOVLOct 05 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @h_ingo: RT @segphault: Sad that Ari Jaaksi is leaving Nokia. [...] < bad sign :-/Oct 05 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] UK ISPs fighting IP Lookup in UK Copyright Troll cases in wake of data leak https://eff.org/r.1sFOct 05 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lawmakers call for halt to #ACTA deal http://ur1.ca/1z4jq "Reports that negotiations on the controversial agreement have ended alarmed MEPs"Oct 05 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just won my first game by conquering the whole world! #civ5Oct 05 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @sagarun did you enjoy the film?Oct 05 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Interesting reading: defense + counterclaim by Google v. Oracle, w/ claims of invalidity http://ur1.ca/1z9lk see if any bearings on #swpatsOct 05 19:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I really think Gerv should submit the Poetic License for OSI approval, even it does mean one more license: http://icio.us/tgzrwlOct 05 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RicardoOrlandini.net - Faz pensar - Comentários - A vitória de Marina http://t.co/VkL9Q9oOct 05 19:05
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schestowitz[18:24] <Diablo-D3> you fell right into their trapOct 05 19:07
schestowitzYesOct 05 19:07
schestowitzIt's over nowOct 05 19:07
schestowitzI'll post some Linux news at the moment, that's what I want to do with the timeOct 05 19:08
schestowitz /at/inOct 05 19:08
cubevectorhmm. what happened?Oct 05 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Upgrading my mom's comp to #Kubuntu 10.04 LTS. Why does a #KDE environment want to install #Evolution? Mind-boggling.Oct 05 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Playing a game as the Romans now. #civ5Oct 05 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/408589/rssOct 05 19:10
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schestowitzcubevector: where?Oct 05 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Poetic Licence - BSD - http://bit.ly/c0HP0N in iambic tetrameters (more or less): classy #bsd #licenses #poetryOct 05 19:15
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Tekk_that's reassuring, there are intel atom processors faster than this one >>Oct 05 19:16
schestowitzyou're on a sub-notebook?Oct 05 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Just met Bismarck. His German is excellent.... :D #civ5Oct 05 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lnxwalt140 Upgrading my mom's comp to #Kubuntu 10.04 LTS. >remove mult-desks, enable auto-login, browser icon on desktop..?Oct 05 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: UK ISPs fighting IP Lookup in UK Copyright Troll cases in wake of data leak https://eff.org/r.1sFOct 05 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: internal Microsoft doc reveals an admission the company's a mess http://ur1.ca/1z9egOct 05 19:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ISPs begin fighting IP lookup requests in wake of data leak .::. Size~: 29.47 KBOct 05 19:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ballmer goes to LSE as internal doc calls for radical overhaul of MS • Channel Register .::. Size~: 25.89 KBOct 05 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft sues Motorola over Android – and all the other mobile lawsuits, visually http://ur1.ca/1z9s4 Nice diagram #swpatsOct 05 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IETF working group formed to remove HTTP ambiguities (IETF Charter): http://bit.ly/b8UmlROct 05 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @schestowitz Microsoft sues Motorola over Android – and all the other mobile lawsuits, visually http://ur1.ca/1z9s4 Nice diagram #swpatsOct 05 19:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Microsoft sues Motorola over Android – and all the other mobile lawsuits, visually | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 113.31 KBOct 05 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hypertext Transfer Protocol Bis (httpbis) - Charter .::. Size~: 25.59 KBOct 05 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Microsoft sues Motorola over Android – and all the other mobile lawsuits, visually | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 113.31 KBOct 05 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz Putting ffox in the session, so it auto-launches on login.Oct 05 19:22
Tekk_hey, this mean that patent nuclear war we've been hoping for is coming? :)Oct 05 19:23
schestowitzYes!Oct 05 19:23
schestowitzI hope it happens moeOct 05 19:23
schestowitzCause then it collapsesOct 05 19:24
schestowitzNo nuclear winterOct 05 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Rehost And Carry On: I spent the last two days in Brussels with many of the key participants  in the OpenESB Commu... http://bit.ly/9N3LTeOct 05 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 yeah, I do that too!Oct 05 19:24
schestowitzJust mutual peace according, end of patents on softwareOct 05 19:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rehost And Carry On « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 40.62 KBOct 05 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 also, they usually need #AdobeTrashPlayer and is the bank is IE-only needs to spoof HTTP headersOct 05 19:25
Tekk_or cheat with your user agent, that may workOct 05 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA: Sorting Through The Spin - http://bit.ly/br30cV plausible of analysis of what is really going on #actaOct 05 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 for remove fixing, enable SSH server on parents' machinesOct 05 19:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/53847965#notice-54303991 " That is what I love about !gnu !linux.  No more charges for the upgrade.  ;-P"Oct 05 19:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.59 KBOct 05 19:27
schestowitzOct 05 19:28
schestowitz[19:27] <Tekk_> or cheat with your user agent, that may workOct 05 19:28
schestowitzSame thingOct 05 19:28
schestowitzWorks well for MicrosoftOct 05 19:28
schestowitzFalse market share statsOct 05 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] JQuery set to tackle mobile Web development (CNET) http://bit.ly/caxBvOOct 05 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] As MeeGo VP Quits, Nokia CEO Taking Calls From Eric Schmidt - http://tcrn.ch/cXaDjz the poker game continues #nokia #meegoOct 05 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP-SAP merger talk considered far-fetched (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/bnzfkKOct 05 19:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: JQuery set to tackle mobile Web development | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 83.92 KBOct 05 19:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   As MeeGo VP Quits, Nokia CEO Taking Calls From Eric Schmidt  .::. Size~: 47.42 KBOct 05 19:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP-SAP merger talk considered far-fetched | The Industry Standard - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 93.8 KBOct 05 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody ACTA: Sorting Through The Spin - http://bit.ly/br30cV #actaOct 05 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody after the "pee in the pants to get warm" remark?Oct 05 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cuccinelli attempts to criminalize all of climate science - http://bit.ly/99zc2U astonishing #climate #scienceOct 05 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Coming in 2.6.36 (Part 4) - Drivers http://h-online.com/-1100878 #linux #kenrel #driver #pci #acpi #pm #usb #v4lOct 05 19:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cuccinelli attempts to criminalize all of climate science  with Post Normal logic & fervor «  Climate Progress .::. Size~: 53.83 KBOct 05 19:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Log: Coming in 2.6.36 (Part 4) - Drivers - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 37.95 KBOct 05 19:32
schestowitzTekk_: oh, you have identica account?Oct 05 19:33
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/53848646#notice-54304893 "@tekk @schestowitz I may indeed remove multi-desks, since my son's not nearby anymore. I used to call him to support when I'm out of town."Oct 05 19:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.23 KBOct 05 19:34
schestowitzLet me aqdd youOct 05 19:34
schestowitzAdded http://identi.ca/tekkOct 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Danny (tekk)  - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 50.44 KBOct 05 19:35
Tekk_aah, it's stalking my dents now :POct 05 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Working on the Hungarian press release of Ubuntu 10.10Oct 05 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] UNITAID http://ur1.ca/1z9wqOct 05 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] just got added by #schestowitz, I assume my dents comu up in irc now....not sure what to say to make my first one special...Oct 05 19:37
schestowitz"install gentoo  "http://twitter.com/#!/Levo75/status/26479316397Oct 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 42.5 KBOct 05 19:38
schestowitzFor a parent?!! Gentoo? :-)Oct 05 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Seeks Comments on Internet Access and Copyright - http://bit.ly/aqsrqM wonder if that includes furriners? #copyright #netOct 05 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody agreed. Given what Ballmer told Elop when he left (see microsoft.com announcement), I'm doubtful Elop will touch AndroidOct 05 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Property Watch  » Blog Archive   » US Seeks Comments on Internet Access and Copyright .::. Size~: 41.12 KBOct 05 19:39
schestowitz@schestowitz Eric is not stupid: that just makes his poker hand stronger...'Oct 05 19:40
schestowitzGlyn: http://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/26480087264Oct 05 19:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Glyn Moody: @schestowitz Eric is not s ... .::. Size~: 12.46 KBOct 05 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] My HTC Desire hasn't moved an inch since yesterday morning, #WTF, gotta sue some ass ;-)Oct 05 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Minecraft's Developer Making $350,000 Per Day - http://bit.ly/9T5tNR who cares about #piracy?Oct 05 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] listening to livrivox.org "adventures of Tom Sawyer"Oct 05 19:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Minecraft's Developer Making $350,000 Per Day | Techdirt .::. Size~: 47.84 KBOct 05 19:40
schestowitzSOme people reply just in twitter/identicaOct 05 19:41
schestowitzFragmentationOct 05 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @toros Working on the Hungarian press release of Ubuntu 10.10 > few days left :-)Oct 05 19:42
ThistleWebyeah the whole jack thang today has been annoying to follow with him using twitterOct 05 19:42
schestowitzTHe mobbyists were egging him onOct 05 19:44
Tekk_yay...Oct 05 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] back to playing with sdl, I should really finish that project...Oct 05 19:45
ThistleWebwhy does the twitter/identica bot do the username/@username combo? surely just the @username would sufficeOct 05 19:46
ThistleWebor the [@username] to show it's the speakerOct 05 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody yes, giving something of value to one person (also to others, by duplication) is how I got paid to write GPL-licensed code. #mythOct 05 19:47
schestowitzTekk_: "@tekk yes, regardless of whether you're online or offline"Oct 05 19:47
Tekk_schestowitz: yeah, I saw itOct 05 19:48
schestowitzIt's not requiring being in IRCOct 05 19:48
schestowitzThistleWeb: I can change the codeOct 05 19:49
schestowitz[If it's a big deal]Oct 05 19:49
ThistleWebjust saying it seems totally pointless to double up, specially if there's no possible combo other than username/usernameOct 05 19:49
ThistleWebI could see if there was a company/usernameOct 05 19:49
ThistleWeball I've ever seen, identica or twitter is the same username/username that's what I askedOct 05 19:50
ThistleWebwhy*Oct 05 19:50
schestowitzI might break the code in ways I don't understand because trmanco maintained itOct 05 19:50
schestowitzMaybe one part of the paramater stringOct 05 19:50
schestowitzI haven't lookedOct 05 19:51
Tekk_schestowitz: what language is it in?Oct 05 19:51
schestowitzphpOct 05 19:51
Tekk_might have someone who can help you thenOct 05 19:51
ThistleWebthe extra-length username also pushes the margin out a lot tooOct 05 19:51
schestowitzlet's try to look..Oct 05 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] hey, it looks like gnome 3 doesn't depend on mono \o/Oct 05 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @sjsf BBC News - #France arrests nine in anti-terror raids. BBC News: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11477652 #terrorist #ter ...Oct 05 19:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - France arrests nine in anti-terror raids .::. Size~: 47.14 KBOct 05 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @skkeeper: Left4Dead + Left4Dead2 Bundle 7,13€ on #Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2487/Oct 05 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Ten years ago, Milosevic was ousted in Serbia http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11478533Oct 05 19:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Save 66% on Left 4 Dead Bundle on Steam .::. Size~: 32.68 KBOct 05 19:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Serbia quietly marks 10 years since Milosevic was ousted .::. Size~: 51.62 KBOct 05 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Who is Neeru Khosla? This week's CC Superhero & co-founder of the CK-12 Foundation: http://bit.ly/d6jaKM #CCfacts #OEROct 05 20:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Neeru Khosla | Creative Commons .::. Size~: 13.38 KBOct 05 20:02
*gnufreex (~quassel@109-92-48-207.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #techrightsOct 05 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Why public safety communications is hurt by the lack of interoperability | http://bit.ly/deL5nb #opensource #standards #fccOct 05 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Android Invasion http://bit.ly/djYEEc #android #googleOct 05 20:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 911: Can you hear me now? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 41.37 KBOct 05 20:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Android Is Transforming Mobile Computing - Newsweek .::. Size~: 53.18 KBOct 05 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] In the IRC for the weekly !fedoradesign meeting.Oct 05 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @robconnolly Just written an email to our IEEE student rep, complaining about blatant pro #swpats bias in a recent email about a debateOct 05 20:07
gnufreexhttp://adtmag.com/blogs/watersworks/2010/10/microsoft-vs.-motorola.aspx Some are qouttomg FM. schestowitzOct 05 20:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft vs. Motorola -- Application Development Trends .::. Size~: 89.09 KBOct 05 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] It may be almost a week late, but we’ve made up for it by producing our longest podcast yet. http://bit.ly/a16gqJOct 05 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Belgian EU Presidency wrong about software patents, pushing for their validation http://ur1.ca/1za8w via @ffii #swpatsOct 05 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: Who is Neeru Khosla? This week's CC Superhero & co-founder of the CK-12 Foundation: http://bit.ly/d6jaKM #CCfacts #OEROct 05 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Podcast Season 2 Episode 18 | TuxRadar Linux .::. Size~: 16.66 KBOct 05 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Belgian EU Presidency wrong about software patents, pushing for their validation - Press releases .::. Size~: 12.06 KBOct 05 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Neeru Khosla | Creative Commons .::. Size~: 13.38 KBOct 05 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !listening to Mack the Knife by Louis Armstrong !lastfmOct 05 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @carlopiana Interesting reading: defense + counterclaim by Google v. Oracle, w/ claims of invalidity http://ur1.ca/1z9lkOct 05 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yay! Coloured time-of-day animated wallpaper coming for F14! :) !fedoradesignOct 05 20:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Asks Court to Toss Oracle's Android Lawsuit | John Paczkowski | Digital Daily | AllThingsD .::. Size~: 74.16 KBOct 05 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Red Hat settles patent case with Acacia - shares few details (InternetNews.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/408660/rssOct 05 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fontana downstream 'protection' too? http://ur1.ca/1zacj http://ur1.ca/1zackOct 05 20:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat settles patent case with Acacia - shares few details (InternetNews.com) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.22 KBOct 05 20:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat settles with Software Tree - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.79 KBOct 05 20:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     Red Hat settles patent case with Acacia - shares few details - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 110.01 KBOct 05 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fontana is the answer is "no", that's OK but we must have transparency from #RedHat ; an NDA no excuseOct 05 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] http://www.google.com/tv/ Google’s Web icon is the Chrome logo… depressingOct 05 20:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle:       Quick Tour - Google TV     .::. Size~: 3.68 KBOct 05 20:27
schestowitz<gnufreex> http://adtmag.com/blogs/watersworks/2010/10/microsoft-vs.-motorola.aspx Some are qouttomg FM. schestowitzOct 05 20:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft vs. Motorola -- Application Development Trends .::. Size~: 89.11 KBOct 05 20:28
schestowitzThat's a Microsoft magazineOct 05 20:28
schestowitz1105 mediaOct 05 20:28
schestowitz'Microsoft press' I call themOct 05 20:28
schestowitzHe probably won't even need to "spam" them to be quotedOct 05 20:29
schestowitz[19:56] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: BBC News - Serbia quietly marks 10 years since Milosevic was ousted .::. Size~: 51.62 KBOct 05 20:29
schestowitzI hear Microsoft may be lookin for a new CEOOct 05 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @techglance: Google Apps Now In A New York State Of Mind http://tcrn.ch/cTQ9LLOct 05 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK so @feedly's #me suggestion feature gives me nothing. Not working, or no pattern to my feeds? Impossible to tell. Any clues? Anyone?Oct 05 20:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Google Apps Now In A New York State Of Mind  .::. Size~: 38.97 KBOct 05 20:30
schestowitzgnufreex: anyway, the mobbyists are not worth bothering too much with, even though it's tempting. THis only feed themOct 05 20:31
schestowitzAnd I admit to have mistakenly fed them sometimesOct 05 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] CSS Text Level 3 Draft Published http://ow.ly/19iPWYOct 05 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: Widget Packaging and Configuration http://ow.ly/19iPWWOct 05 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Ballmer’s time “bing” and gone? Or is it Microsoft’s? – The LSE “Ramble”? http://tinyurl.com/33jr8z3 !microsoft !android !windows !piracyOct 05 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What planet are channel 4 news on? Child benefit cuts are unfair to struggling higher rate tax paying widows. What!Oct 05 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of Permissions for Device API Access Published http://ow.ly/19iPWXOct 05 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle:         W3C News Archive: 2010      W3C   .::. Size~: 182.76 KBOct 05 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle:         W3C News Archive: 2010      W3C   .::. Size~: 182.76 KBOct 05 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ballmers time bing and gone? Or is it Microsofts?  The LSE Ramble? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 42.73 KBOct 05 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle:         W3C News Archive: 2010      W3C   .::. Size~: 182.76 KBOct 05 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] GNU Telephony » Blog Archive » GNU Telephony Statement on new Internet Surveillance Laws http://ping.fm/Y6qwEOct 05 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Setting Up An #NFS Server And Client On !Ubuntu 10.04 http://ping.fm/lMvQuOct 05 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10/10/10 is not just !Ubuntu celebration but also "stop climate change" http://ur1.ca/1zaikOct 05 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How Many Cores Is Too Many? (Answer: 48) (ExtremeTech) http://bit.ly/bWT6GGOct 05 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNU Telephony  » Blog Archive   » GNU Telephony Statement on new Internet Surveillance Laws .::. Size~: 8.24 KBOct 05 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Setting Up An NFS Server And Client On Ubuntu 10.04 | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials .::. Size~: 45.84 KBOct 05 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Greenpeace: Email - Re: Friend, it's time to get to work .::. Size~: 9.37 KBOct 05 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Many Cores Is Too Many? - CPUs, Boards & Components by ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 67.59 KBOct 05 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Operation Payback http://ur1.ca/1zajlOct 05 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] SpiderOak brings online file backup and syncing service to !Android http://ping.fm/rX64bOct 05 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SpiderOak brings online file backup and syncing service to Android .::. Size~: 91.4 KBOct 05 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] EU Parliamentarians move to block anti-counterfeiting pact http://ping.fm/NkVekOct 05 20:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Parliamentarians move to block anti-counterfeiting pact .::. Size~: 105.51 KBOct 05 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Watched Jeremy Allison's charmingly off-kilter interview with Ric Wheeler of #Red_Hat: http://2tu.us/2qo6 #foss #linuxOct 05 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Facebook hit by new iPhone spam attack http://ping.fm/IApJvOct 05 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Intel Says No !MeeGo Handsets Until 2011 - Forbes http://ping.fm/ywc0MOct 05 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The FTC is now shaking down small businesses and winning http://ur1.ca/1zalnOct 05 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Someone on 45k a year looses 2k child benefit the poor dears. 2k is 30 weeks unemployment benefit so forgive me if I do not shed a tear.Oct 05 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek Time with Ric Wheeler - Google Open Source Blog .::. Size~: 32.31 KBOct 05 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook hit by new iPhone spam attack .::. Size~: 101.31 KBOct 05 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Intel Says No MeeGo Handsets Until 2011 - Elizabeth Woyke - Mobilized - Forbes .::. Size~: 110.28 KBOct 05 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Story | Pro Small Business .::. Size~: 15.02 KBOct 05 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @stickster I like @jra's interview style too, it's fun! :)Oct 05 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New Ubuntu font meets !Android, looks stunning http://ping.fm/XRFu1Oct 05 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ Join the campaign "We are more than 1%," showing that many users we are using GNU / Linux - http://2tu.us/2qo2Oct 05 20:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Ubuntu font meets Android, looks stunning .::. Size~: 40.46 KBOct 05 20:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DudaLibre.com - Campaña mundial de uso GNU/Linux y distribuciones .::. Size~: 26.64 KBOct 05 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Libre Graphics World - News: GIMP 2.6.11 http://ping.fm/DtOUTOct 05 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The real cost of free http://ping.fm/CdcYEOct 05 20:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libre Graphics World - News: GIMP 2.6.11 .::. Size~: 15.83 KBOct 05 20:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The real cost of free | Digital Copyright Canada .::. Size~: 13.78 KBOct 05 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @pragmart ♺ @titanioverde Do you use !GNU / !Linux in your desktop computer? http://ur1.ca/1zaaf We are more than 1%Oct 05 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @shackra: Because we are more than the 1% www.dudalibre.com/gnulinuxcounterOct 05 20:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DudaLibre.com - Campaña mundial de uso GNU/Linux y distribuciones .::. Size~: 26.64 KBOct 05 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Great things afoot! :D !fedoradesignOct 05 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] downloading #ida IDA Advanced version 6.0 which finally has a Qt based UI, i.e. GUI in its Linux version. Only proprietary app I useOct 05 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Channel 4 are excelling themselves tonight. Next a report on how MS say that the cloud will change everything. Here it is...Oct 05 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Handheld Console for MMOs and Online Gaming Rumoured to be running a !Linux OS http://ping.fm/WPsklOct 05 20:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Panasonic Announces Portable Handheld Console for MMOs and Online Gaming | The Flickcast .::. Size~: 70.65 KBOct 05 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @opensourceway the "TEDx" brand has already been tarnished by TEDxRedmond and TEDxChange, which is how Gates injected himself/wife to lobbyOct 05 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Open Source Animated Movie Shows What Can Be Done Today http://ping.fm/p5IZvOct 05 21:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Animated Movie Shows What Can Be Done Today | Techdirt .::. Size~: 28.6 KBOct 05 21:02
gnufreexhttp://www.osnews.com/story/23872/Microsoft_s_Anti-Android_FUD_Campaign_in_Full_SwingOct 05 21:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing .::. Size~: 25.7 KBOct 05 21:03
schestowitzNiceOct 05 21:03
schestowitzSo Android is winningOct 05 21:03
schestowitzhad VIsta phone 7 worked, they would not do thisOct 05 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] CNN: 4 dead after toxic mud floods villages in #Hungary http://goo.gl/z8yn These are sad days for Hungary... :(Oct 05 21:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 4 dead after toxic mud floods villages in Hungary - CNN.com .::. Size~: 36.44 KBOct 05 21:04
schestowitz_log[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: internal Microsoft doc reveals an admission the company's a mess http://ur1.ca/1z9egOct 05 21:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ballmer goes to LSE as internal doc calls for radical overhaul of MS • Channel Register .::. Size~: 25.89 KBOct 05 21:04
gnufreexThey setting people's minds. New mantra: Open source infringes everybody's "IP". schestowitzOct 05 21:05
gnufreexif they repeat it enough times, people will beleive itOct 05 21:05
gnufreexFloyd is repeating it, he made 3 blog posts about it.Oct 05 21:05
gnufreexAlso, se ARS comments. Wakashizuma troll especially. I think he is paid to troll.Oct 05 21:06
cubevectornot my IP, I gave everyone permissionOct 05 21:06
cubevector...in the universeOct 05 21:07
gnufreexcubevector: Oracle, Apple, Microsoft. People convicted it alreadyOct 05 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @brionv Twitter's Site Streams API beta now supports home timelines; this is going to make our 2-way !StatusNet bridge way more scala ...Oct 05 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ABC "Unofficially" Partners with Twitter-Alternative !StatusNet http://ping.fm/LAw2gOct 05 21:09
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gnufreexAnd Microsoft is double diping. Google paid them for Acrtive Sync, they are now suing Motorola for it.Oct 05 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Counting Down the Days to Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick http://ur1.ca/1zavm !ubuntu !linux !linuxOct 05 21:10
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gnufreexhttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/10/ballmer-windows-7-slates-this-christmas-touch-optimizations-2011.ars?comments=1#comments-bar HP intrusion will probably get them sales.Oct 05 21:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Introducing zer0c00l.in - My new personal website : http://zer0c00l.in/ #check #checkOct 05 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ZFS gains data encryption - The H http://ping.fm/I6eTkOct 05 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] A SIC diz q comemora 18 anos de emissão livre e independente, mas não esclarece de que influências. #ambiguidade por omissão!Oct 05 21:14
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schestowitz<gnufreex> Floyd is repeating it, he made 3 blog posts about it.Oct 05 21:15
schestowitz"FOSSpatents"Oct 05 21:15
schestowitzPatentwashing FOSSOct 05 21:16
schestowitzgnufreex: yes, double-dipping is a good way of putting itOct 05 21:18
schestowitzIt has other API traps of this kindOct 05 21:18
schestowitzEUC made Samba not a problemOct 05 21:18
schestowitzFAT is a problemOct 05 21:18
schestowitzexFAT tooOct 05 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A: what's the best way to "Patentwash" FOSS (implying it has patent entanglement)? Q: combine the two words "patent" and a "FOSS" a lotOct 05 21:19
gnufreexIf there was no de Icaza, EU would force MS to do same with .NET as for SMBOct 05 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fedora Design Team meeting is over. Minutes: http://ur1.ca/1zayw !fedoradesignOct 05 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Some awesome things afoot! Can't wait. This is gonna be great! !fedoradesignOct 05 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Has Facebook updated its ToS to allow developers to sell your data? http://ping.fm/qjw73Oct 05 21:20
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hazzyschestowitz: Do you have that link to delete Facebook account?Oct 05 21:22
gnufreexhttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=16929680703Oct 05 21:23
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schestowitz"Install Gentoo anyway, tell them it's vista 7." http://twitter.com/#!/Levo75/status/26485443478Oct 05 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Seven months with #Vista7 (response) http://ur1.ca/1zazy "The conclusion to me is..."Oct 05 21:24
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schestowitzhazzy: BUT.....In order to count as a member of Earth you must register in Mark "Dumb Fucks" Zuckerberg's personal database.Oct 05 21:24
schestowitz"Install Gentoo anyway, tell them it's vista 7." http://twitter.com/#!/Levo75/status/26485443478Oct 05 21:24
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schestowitz:-)Oct 05 21:24
hazzyIt was for my momOct 05 21:25
schestowitzWould be funny if FB started reporting declining number, except bot subsOct 05 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Android: Swimming With the Patent Sharks (GigaOM) http://lwn.net/Articles/408681/rssOct 05 21:25
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gnufreexschestowitz: The is strong Microsoft lobby on Ubuntu forums. I just saw Motorola Microsoft thread, and next refresh of the page, it was deleted. Not locked; deleted. They are deleting thread about Microsoft wrongdoings.Oct 05 21:26
schestowitzJust shows you what buggers they are hiding the delete account optionOct 05 21:26
schestowitzgnufreex: keeping temperature downOct 05 21:26
schestowitzI dunno...Oct 05 21:26
schestowitzBut that's UFOct 05 21:26
schestowitzRun by some Apple fans tooOct 05 21:26
schestowitzBut let's anti-Linux trolls stayOct 05 21:27
schestowitzLike the Lins*x typesOct 05 21:27
gnufreexWell, they took it over the forum anyway. They are praising mono and hooking people on mono apps.Oct 05 21:27
cubezzzwhich forum is that?Oct 05 21:28
gnufreexUbuntu forumsOct 05 21:28
cubezzzoh rightOct 05 21:28
gnufreexYeahOct 05 21:28
hazzyYea I stopped going thereOct 05 21:28
cubezzzI'm never in those :)Oct 05 21:28
cubezzzI'm a vector, AROS, Haiku, OpenBSD dude nowOct 05 21:29
gnufreexkiwinz is the admin and he is apple shareholder and fanboy. He attacks RMS openly and call peope GNU/beards if they complain.Oct 05 21:29
cubezzzoh dearOct 05 21:29
cubezzzI use GNU and I have a beardOct 05 21:29
hazzyYes, I noticed that too, gnufreexOct 05 21:29
Tekk_haiku ftwOct 05 21:29
gnufreexcubezzz: Me too.Oct 05 21:30
cubezzzthe point is, people should try the non microsoft OSes moreOct 05 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @netzturbine: Stuttgart 21: Amnesty fordert unabhängige Untersuchung der Vorwürfe gegen Polizei http://lallus.net/6aj #s21Oct 05 21:30
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cubezzzHaiku doesnt run on Intel i810 thoughOct 05 21:31
cubezzzat least I never got it workingOct 05 21:31
cubezzzOpenBSD and Linux worked fine on itOct 05 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] October 2010 Issue of The NEW #PCLinuxOS Magazine http://ur1.ca/1zb2n #plcos helps me migrate peopleOct 05 21:32
schestowitz<cubezzz> I use GNU and I have a beardOct 05 21:34
schestowitz_goblin has a gnuteeOct 05 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kernel Log: Coming in 2.6.36 http://ur1.ca/1zb33 http://ur1.ca/1zb34 !linuxOct 05 21:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Warning Themes - Interesting Concept to Make "Being Root Scary" for Newbie Linux Users http://ur1.ca/1zb67 in SUSE, wallpaper had minesOct 05 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @netzturbine: "Die haben angefangen!" (THEY have started it!) http://bit.ly/8ZYWe3 by @tagesspiegel_de #s21Oct 05 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. #hadbeer #needsleepOct 05 21:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chrome's Use Triples, Firefox Holds Steady, and Internet Explorer Drops Still Dropping http://ping.fm/wvZz4Oct 05 21:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Security Loophole in Twitter Exposes Direct Messages http://ping.fm/dgOpgOct 05 22:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A paper from OSDI '10 describing exceptionless system calls: claims improved performance of unmodified Apache by 116%sOct 05 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] When will !UbuntuOne get a new logo? It still has the old one with the ugly Ubuntu font... :(Oct 05 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] User support mailing list for LibreOffice set up: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00005.htmlOct 05 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] OLPC gets $5.6 million from Marvell to build Android tablet http://ur1.ca/1zbdyOct 05 22:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] now for a lil' shock - had a great, stimulating and extremely interesting conversation with some Microsoft guys. more info to come.Oct 05 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Life is short. Make an integer out of it, maybe double.Oct 05 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VIDEO: Duke Nukem Forever Date, Live Footage http://ur1.ca/1zbfd I used to love the serious, runs in !Linux nowOct 05 22:17
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Tekk_schestowitz: another duke nukem fan? :OOct 05 22:18
schestowitzIt wasn't my favouriteOct 05 22:18
schestowitzI loved DOOMOct 05 22:19
Tekk_doom was good, dn3d was betterOct 05 22:19
Tekk_technologically at leastOct 05 22:19
schestowitzbut laterOct 05 22:19
Tekk_yeahOct 05 22:19
schestowitzdoom 1&2 predate itOct 05 22:19
schestowitzAnd duke was siimilar gentreOct 05 22:19
schestowitzgenres hardly changed sinceOct 05 22:19
MinceRi preferred doom to dn3dOct 05 22:19
Tekk_well yeah, all fpses were called doom clonesOct 05 22:19
schestowitzStill Dune/DOOM-type gameplayOct 05 22:20
MinceRdn3d was a lot of fun but it was also very buggyOct 05 22:20
Tekk_schestowitz: hardlyOct 05 22:20
schestowitzTekk_: not wold3d?Oct 05 22:20
MinceRnopeOct 05 22:20
MinceRand hovertank3d predated wolf3dOct 05 22:20
schestowitzthat was the first game (wolfenstein) where I saw 3-d orientation/sceneOct 05 22:21
schestowitzI ever remember whereOct 05 22:21
Tekk_some adventure games were in first person beforeOct 05 22:21
Tekk_schestowitz: I like wolf3d as much as doomOct 05 22:22
schestowitz"TEDxredmond has nothing to do with Bill Gates. It's an event for kids by kids." http://twitter.com/#!/flyingfingers/status/26487485624Oct 05 22:22
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Tekk_and saying that fpses haven't evolved is like saying platformers haven't evolved from pitfall since you still pretty much just jump ;)Oct 05 22:22
schestowitzWho pays for the event?Oct 05 22:22
MinceRthere also was a 3d (but with discrete motion) maze explorer gameOct 05 22:23
schestowitz"That's one part... you'll find links to all four parts at http://bit.ly/aWFd5M " http://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/26488231810Oct 05 22:23
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MinceRbut afaik the first FPS (_shooter_) was Hovertank 3-DOct 05 22:23
MinceRthen again, one might ask how "first person" is driving a tank :>Oct 05 22:24
Tekk_yeahOct 05 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Video from a camera attached to a weather balloon that rose into the upper stratosphere. http://goo.gl/s1p9Oct 05 22:24
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MinceRgnOct 05 22:24
schestowitzI link to just the latest 2 because all 4 won't fit and I fell behind Linux news. #mobbyists #distraction #yawnOct 05 22:24
Tekk_thanks guys, you made me fire up prboom >>Oct 05 22:24
MinceR:)Oct 05 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope I link to just the latest 2 because all 4 won't fit and I fell behind Linux news. #mobbyists #distraction #yawns #needcoffeeOct 05 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @glynmoody: The real cost of free - http://bit.ly/9lF90X well-written, calm take-down by @doctorow (via @rlancefield)Oct 05 22:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft Studios is providing streaming services to TEDxRedmond" of course it is. I bet it will also change agenda and 'tedwash' MSFT #TEDOct 05 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's funny how companies use independent brands to market themselves. #TEDxRedmond is being used as demo venue for #Microsoft products. #TEDOct 05 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #TED franchise was so good it had to be put up for sale. Gotta make some big $$$, eh?Oct 05 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Beem, an XMPP client for #Android - http://f-droid.org/posts/beem/ /by @fdroidOct 05 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For those who don't know, Bill Gates has bought a #TED and guess what the keynote was? Melinda! Lobbying the UN there, also via satellite.Oct 05 22:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The speech writer of #Gates is reported to have begun working for Hilary #Clinton last month. For those who think that Gates writes them...Oct 05 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu's Real Contribution to Free Software http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3906721 Humanity for others. Rock on. !UbuntuOct 05 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Police besiege President Correa http://ur1.ca/1zbm9Oct 05 22:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The PR firm fed the New York Times a story with a marketing twist, the Wall Street Journal received.." --Daughter of Microsoft's PR chiefOct 05 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I'm a huge fan of guerrilla marketing." -Joe Wilcox Microsoft Watch reporterOct 05 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Windows v Linux on a new laptop http://ur1.ca/1zbo5 "Easily, I'd say !Linux "won" this one." #vista7Oct 05 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] New !UbuntuOne paid options are available: Ubuntu One Mobile for 2.99 USD/month, +20 GB storage for 3.99 USD/month http://goo.gl/kEGyOct 05 22:44
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gnufreexschestowitz: Which post of yours explain Microsoft entryism the best? (nee to have references, and is easy to understand for less-informed people) I need linking material.Oct 05 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Windows v Linux on a new laptop http://ur1.ca/1zbo5 "Easily, I'd say !Linux "won" this one." #vista7Oct 05 22:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] According to stats Internet Explorer drops below 50% http://tinyurl.com/3yu3rka !ie !microsoft !windows !www !mvp !mvpbuzzOct 05 22:49
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schestowitzgnufreex: I don't have oneOct 05 22:51
schestowitzI cover eventsOct 05 22:51
schestowitzNot concepts like an encyclopediaOct 05 22:51
schestowitzuse wikipediaOct 05 22:51
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism is a good articleOct 05 22:52
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schestowitzPaste it and explain that this is what Microsoft is doing _to_ FOSS, _in_ FOSS, and rival blobs merchantsOct 05 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "If a [blobs] company is bought, goes bankrupt or merges or decides to delete a product line you have no choice" -Jon "Maddog" Hall !linuxOct 05 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @privacy_a: Mahatma Gandhi's 1st ever civil protest: against ID cards in South Africa #uid #privacy #india http://youtu.be/...Oct 05 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @sunil_abraham: The perils of 'Aadhaar' - Praful Bidwai http://is.gd/fJLmJ #UID (via Vinay Baindur) intended to wash out t...Oct 05 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @sunil_abraham: RT @guptar: Justifying The #UIDAI – A Case Of PR Over Substance? http://bit.ly/b7Gfq3 #uid 'open public mee...Oct 05 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @sunil_abraham: RT @kafila: Eight reasons why you should oppose the UID: Stop UID Campaign: Drafted by Kalyani Menon-Sen h...Oct 05 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @gnowgi: Mahatma Gandhi was against UID (Unique ID) http://www.moneylife.in/article/78/9663.html #UID #Gandhi #Mahatma #UI...Oct 05 22:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LPI and My First International Proctoring “Job” http://blog.lpi.org/?p=23 maddog gives one of his many history lessons about early unix daysOct 05 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: total energyless http://bit.ly/9KTfaXOct 05 22:54
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schestowitz"All TED and TEDx events have sponsors, how else could it be done?" http://twitter.com/#!/flyingfingers/status/26492285934Oct 05 22:56
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schestowitzWell, maybe have attendant pay for registration.Oct 05 22:56
schestowitz*attendantsOct 05 22:56
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schestowitz"@flyingfingers would u be interested in links to articles which explain why Microsoft merely misuses public-funded schools 4 #indoctrination"Oct 05 22:59
schestowitzLet's see if I can have them see what harm they do to Redmond kidsOct 05 22:59
schestowitzI doubt itOct 05 22:59
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/53879824#notice-54340469 "@schestowitz: Duke Nukem Forever will run in linux?"Oct 05 23:00
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schestowitzThe older versions have compatibility layers in tact AFAIKOct 05 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Love this weather, it's been raining on and off, and in the low 60s! :DOct 05 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8 reviews GUFW (Gui for the Uncomplicated Firewall) http://goo.gl/cLpPOct 05 23:02
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schestowitzArgh..Oct 05 23:07
schestowitzThe mobbyists againOct 05 23:07
schestowitzHijacking the chat... http://lwn.net/Articles/408660/Oct 05 23:08
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gnufreexschestowitz:  this one will do http://techrights.org/2010/09/21/entryism-storagecraft-final-fantasy/Oct 05 23:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @johndrinkwater like blue E?Oct 05 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera they should cut "defence" (weaponry)Oct 05 23:12
schestowitzHehe. "hey @schestowitz, how do you earn for a living? Writing? And who's your sponsor? One dude told me it's Red Hat. Sorry I feel you're too..." http://identi.ca/notice/54343759http://identi.ca/notice/new?replyto=rrh&inreplyto=54343908   @schestowitz ...subjective  "Oct 05 23:17
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schestowitzSmearingOct 05 23:18
schestowitzClaiming I have paid biasOct 05 23:18
schestowitzI do research in a specialised field (my blogs at http://schestowitz.com/MARS/ and http://schestowitz.com/Vision/ for example). I'll soon resume...Oct 05 23:19
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schestowitzI'll soon resume these blogs if I find the time and desire... techrights is good use of timeOct 05 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How Hitler's downfall mocks your ideals (ITworld) http://bit.ly/bn8Ju0Oct 05 23:22
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schestowitz[20:42] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [diablod3/@diablod3] The FTC is now shaking down small businesses and winning http://ur1.ca/1zalnOct 05 23:23
schestowitzWell doneOct 05 23:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Story | Pro Small Business .::. Size~: 22.89 KBOct 05 23:24
schestowitzMarketing scamOct 05 23:24
schestowitzGo FTC!Oct 05 23:24
schestowitz"On September 24, 2010, after three years and over $300,000 in legal fees, I was informed that the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) had accepted my settlement proposal of $850,000 in a civil suit in which they accused my company, Swish Marketing, of misleading advertising. "Oct 05 23:24
schestowitzI don't need to read further cause it says "marketing"Oct 05 23:24
Diablo-D3schestowitz: you're an idiot.Oct 05 23:25
Diablo-D3read the whole thingOct 05 23:25
Diablo-D3swish marketing is just an ad companyOct 05 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Added October's featured resource to the front page of http://libreplanet.org/wiki -- check it out! !lp !fsfOct 05 23:25
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Diablo-D3FTC sued one of their customers, and then lost, and then tried to sue the company that developed the company's adsOct 05 23:26
Diablo-D3even though its a 20 person company, they did not sell the product, they did not develop the product, and they did not make money off of the product, and they had nothing to do with the company who did make the product other than be their ad companyOct 05 23:26
Diablo-D3AND the FTC didnt attack the company, they attacked a random employeeOct 05 23:26
oiaohmRead the ruling Diablo-D3 FTC did not exactly lose.  Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:27
schestowitzI see...Oct 05 23:27
schestowitzWell, I have a solutionOct 05 23:27
schestowitzLet's call off marketingOct 05 23:27
oiaohmOn the company responsable.  Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:27
Diablo-D3oiaohm: the FTC won $850k in a shake downOct 05 23:27
schestowitzI know it's controversial thoughOct 05 23:27
Diablo-D3and thats dirtyOct 05 23:27
Diablo-D3schestowitz: you're attacking the wrong peopleOct 05 23:27
Diablo-D3schestowitz: its a 20 person company, clearly a small businessOct 05 23:27
schestowitzThe "free market" system assumes you can't compete unless our whole like one with big PRamaOct 05 23:27
schestowitzDiablo-D3: trueOct 05 23:27
schestowitzI didn't read furtherOct 05 23:28
schestowitzLike I saidOct 05 23:28
Diablo-D3the FTC attacked America.Oct 05 23:28
schestowitzSo I was bound to miss somethingOct 05 23:28
Diablo-D3you attack one small business, you attack ALL small businessesOct 05 23:28
schestowitzMaybe the deception came from outside the ad companyOct 05 23:28
oiaohmFirst case FTC brought the company had the documentation that they had signed over all partking to  Swish Marketing and provided Swish Marketing with correct information about the product.Oct 05 23:28
schestowitzthey also cae after ReverbOct 05 23:28
oiaohmparking/marketingOct 05 23:28
Diablo-D3oiaohm: an ad company is not responsible for what their clients doOct 05 23:28
schestowitzThe shills Apple had worked withOct 05 23:28
Diablo-D3periodOct 05 23:28
Diablo-D3oiaohm: if a company lies about a product, and hires an ad company, the ad company is not responsibleOct 05 23:29
schestowitzReverb Communuication=richfraudstersOct 05 23:29
schestowitzFake reviews for $$Oct 05 23:29
oiaohmThis case company had not lied to ad company.  Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:29
Diablo-D3oiaohm: well heres the problemOct 05 23:29
Diablo-D3the ad company had NOTHING to do with any of thisOct 05 23:29
schestowitzOK, but they do PROct 05 23:29
Diablo-D3I agree with the guy they sued here, they realized they couldnt beat the company who sold the productOct 05 23:30
schestowitzSo in general they don't deserve much sympathyOct 05 23:30
Diablo-D3so they went after someone they could go after and winOct 05 23:30
Diablo-D3schestowitz: they went after a small businessOct 05 23:30
Diablo-D3why the fuck is the FTC even TALKING to small businessesOct 05 23:30
schestowitzThey could choose an occupation which is not by design about deceptionOct 05 23:30
oiaohmFTC could not sue the company over the ads because the company did not do them Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:30
Diablo-D3the FTC could be nailing microsoft every day of the weekOct 05 23:30
schestowitzNot everything that pays is necessarily beneficial to societyOct 05 23:30
Diablo-D3oiaohm: the FTC did not go after the ad company over adsOct 05 23:30
schestowitz<Diablo-D3> why the fuck is the FTC even TALKING to small businessesOct 05 23:30
Diablo-D3oiaohm: they went after the ad company because _they could_Oct 05 23:31
schestowitzSEC did GoldmanOct 05 23:31
oiaohmBut the company has been sued over other things about there product and settle.   Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:31
schestowitzFTC is corruptOct 05 23:31
schestowitzMojoras and allOct 05 23:31
Diablo-D3the FTC is very corruptOct 05 23:31
schestowitzFamily relationsOct 05 23:31
schestowitzThey let Intel off the hook...Oct 05 23:31
Diablo-D3something like 60% of Americans work for small businessesOct 05 23:31
schestowitzAnd MSFTOct 05 23:31
Diablo-D3I dont care if the company sold canned baby meat and kicked puppiesOct 05 23:31
schestowitzThey mailed me back after I complained about paid Microsoft shills, with proofOct 05 23:31
Diablo-D3its a small businessOct 05 23:31
oiaohmSorry Diablo-D3 this case is more complex.  Ad company was informed of issue they were placing the ads directly and billing for advertising.Oct 05 23:31
schestowitzThey still aim for SMBsOct 05 23:31
schestowitzBully loves the weak kidsOct 05 23:31
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yes, and the FTC did not sue them over adsOct 05 23:32
oiaohmIe they should have pulled the ads.  Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:32
*schestowitz wants to get nice caricatures to illustrateOct 05 23:32
Diablo-D3oiaohm: this is the problem with the case, the FTC did _not_ sue over adsOct 05 23:32
Diablo-D3oiaohm: they sued because the ad company worked for the company they DID want to go afterOct 05 23:32
schestowitzDiablo-D3: we don't knowOct 05 23:32
Diablo-D3oiaohm: and somehow the FTC wonOct 05 23:32
oiaohmReally then went after both.  Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:32
schestowitzOne side onlyOct 05 23:32
oiaohmAnd they did get both.  Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:32
schestowitzYou hear one side hereOct 05 23:32
schestowitzTHe victimOct 05 23:32
Diablo-D3schestowitz: Im going to believe the guy hereOct 05 23:32
schestowitzI'm sure there's more to itOct 05 23:33
Diablo-D3the FTC is a pile of shitOct 05 23:33
schestowitzMaybe not  a victim at allOct 05 23:33
schestowitzAsk what they DON'T tell youOct 05 23:33
Diablo-D3if they WERE guilty, the FTC wouldnt have settled for $850kOct 05 23:33
schestowitz<Diablo-D3> the FTC is a pile of shitOct 05 23:33
Diablo-D3they would have gone for the full 6 millionOct 05 23:33
schestowitzBoth can beOct 05 23:33
schestowitzLike in warOct 05 23:33
schestowitzBoth sides can be "evil"Oct 05 23:33
Diablo-D3schestowitz: still, small businessOct 05 23:33
oiaohmGetting the ad company got FTC the documents to prove went he maker knew the product was defective and kept on shipping.  Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:33
schestowitzLet them mixOct 05 23:33
Diablo-D3oiaohm: I dont even know if the product was defectiveOct 05 23:33
schestowitzInto one giant BSOct 05 23:34
Diablo-D3parts ARE left outOct 05 23:34
Diablo-D3such as what really happened to that other companyOct 05 23:34
Diablo-D3the one selling the productsOct 05 23:34
Diablo-D3I wanna know why they wonOct 05 23:34
Diablo-D3probably there was no issues going on, and the FTC couldnt scare themOct 05 23:34
oiaohmIts just a simple case if you are a advertising company with free right to place ads be very careful to make sure you watch all infomration incoming from the company involved for issues. Other wise you can be roped in.Oct 05 23:35
oiaohmReally its better to plan to place ads send company involved a purchase order to sign off on.Oct 05 23:35
oiaohmSo avoiding FTC being able to hit you.Oct 05 23:35
oiaohmIe there processes were just a little lax. Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:36
Diablo-D3and I still blame the FTCOct 05 23:36
oiaohmBigger ads companies most likely would have never made the mistake they know better.Oct 05 23:36
Diablo-D3I pay for those fucking investigationsOct 05 23:37
Diablo-D3I dont care what the fuck the company was doingOct 05 23:37
Diablo-D3its a 20 person companyOct 05 23:37
oiaohmI do call what the FTC did execessive.Oct 05 23:37
oiaohmBut unfortonaty legally right.Oct 05 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching Natural Born Killers, a much misunderstood and under rated film.Oct 05 23:37
Diablo-D3except the FTC works for meOct 05 23:37
Diablo-D3and I paid for that investigationOct 05 23:37
Diablo-D3I mean, hell, the US Government is just one big corporation now anyhowOct 05 23:38
Diablo-D3Im a shareholder.Oct 05 23:38
oiaohmDiablo-D3 not quite that simple.Oct 05 23:38
oiaohmNot all of the FTC investigations are going to turn out right.Oct 05 23:38
Diablo-D3I pay enough money that they should ALWAYS turn out rightOct 05 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Superweed http://ur1.ca/1zc3tOct 05 23:39
oiaohmGuessing wrong on who is reponsable is going to happen.Oct 05 23:39
Diablo-D3Im not saying that the FTC has to catch somebodyOct 05 23:39
oiaohmAt least FTC was smart enought to sue each part alone.Oct 05 23:39
Diablo-D3its completely fine for them to investigate and find nothingOct 05 23:39
Diablo-D3but they attacked _an individual_Oct 05 23:39
oiaohmIe ads about product.   product defects due to quality control.Oct 05 23:39
Diablo-D3they didnt even sue the companyOct 05 23:39
Diablo-D3they sued _a_ personOct 05 23:40
Diablo-D3somebody who wasnt even involved in adsOct 05 23:40
oiaohmYes that is who name signed off on the contract.Oct 05 23:40
Diablo-D3oiaohm: probably not.Oct 05 23:40
oiaohmIt was.Oct 05 23:40
Diablo-D3hes a VP on the technical side of thingsOct 05 23:40
oiaohmThe small company was bady paper work lax internally.Oct 05 23:40
Diablo-D3yes, because it has 20 fucking peopleOct 05 23:40
oiaohmWho never learnt how they should have signed the stuff so the company took the risk not the indviduals.Oct 05 23:41
Diablo-D3oiaohm: except the FTC sued THE PERSONOct 05 23:42
oiaohmI know sad case.  But there are a lot of other small businesses at legal risk the same way.Oct 05 23:42
Diablo-D3not the companyOct 05 23:42
oiaohmIt all they could do.Oct 05 23:42
Diablo-D3Im not sure why that could even go through legallyOct 05 23:42
oiaohmHe was on the contract without the company name of the ads provider.Oct 05 23:42
oiaohmSo he was offically the middle man.Oct 05 23:42
oiaohmI know its ouch but this is what happens when paper work is not done right Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:43
oiaohmI fell sorry for the guy.  Diablo-D3Oct 05 23:44
oiaohmI can understand the FTC not straight up settling either.  Small company had to get the message stuff up paper work big problems happen and cash will not make it just disappear.Oct 05 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Lior Kaplan fixed a small but significant bug in !libreoffice !ooo http://ur1.ca/1zc27 /by @hezyOct 05 23:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Lior Kaplan fixed a small but significant bug in #libreoffice !ooo http://ur1.ca/1zc27 /by @hezyOct 05 23:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sorry about duplicate group tags there !libreoffice !ooo - I don't do it very oftenOct 05 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] PostgreSQL security update http://lwn.net/Articles/408722/rssOct 05 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “There's a lot of Linux out there -- much more than Microsoft generally signals publicly..." --Paul DeGroot, Microsoft boosterOct 05 23:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @ufa: Ontem foi dia de audiência. A Lenovo ofereceu um acordo...que eu não aceitei: http://ur1.ca/1z68j #reembolsoOct 05 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Over here "We are more than 60%" (we as in GNU/Linux users).Oct 05 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Shane Joe Lazar's Blog: The Warthog Said To The Meerkat... http://ping.fm/3maXSOct 05 23:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera ... re: "Next a report on how MS say that the cloud will change everything." > clouds bring rainy days. Computers fail when wet.Oct 05 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @graziano: Beautiful new page for GNU/Linux-libre distros: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html Check it out and download GNU!Oct 05 23:52
schestowitzthistleweb: "We are more than 1%" campaign will fail to prove it for obvious reasonsOct 05 23:52
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oiaohmRemember the thing you and I and the small comapny does not know is if the FTC was just intending to take the settlement all the time and just dragged there feet intentionally to teach the company a leason that this problems just disappear quicky.  So avoid doing it.Oct 05 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @aurium: Nossas escolhas definem o mercado. Não há valor em se dizer contra DRM e comprar algo restritivo com a desculpa de q é o melhorOct 05 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Panasonic Announces Portable Handheld Console for MMOs and Online Gaming http://ur1.ca/1zc7l "rumored to be running on a !Linux OS"Oct 05 23:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @marcusharrison Haha! I like how the !ubuntu one website refers to Windows as a, "Legacy system". Headshot!Oct 05 23:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] 5 Operating Systems Making Big Waves This Week http://ur1.ca/1zc8aOct 05 23:59

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