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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista Phone 7 still be a success... compared to KIN... just needs to sell over 503 phones. http://ur1.ca/1zq3eOct 07 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Hi Tim, Do u know any good Sinclair ZX spectrum emulator 4 Linux ??? Thnks in advanceOct 07 00:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows Phone 7 Will Flounder, Gartner Predicts -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 101.37 KBOct 07 00:00
oiaohmThat android swiming with patent sharks has to be the most well blanced.Oct 07 00:01
oiaohmAnd I do agree that Oracle out of all the patent sharks has the most pure motivation.Oct 07 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] new blog post http://blog.catharcyst.com/2010/10/government-wants-to-sniff-hell-out-of.htmlOct 07 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: seeds of a madness flower .::. Size~: 128.16 KBOct 07 00:01
hazzyGood to see Motorola still moving forward with Android, thoughOct 07 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith Sure do! Xspect! Wrote about it a while ago: http://tinyurl.com/32auboy !spectrum !linux !foss !emulationOct 07 00:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EMULATION: XSpect  ZX 48K Spectrum Emulation! « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 31.26 KBOct 07 00:05
oiaohmA little law suite from MS worry Motorola I think not hazzyOct 07 00:05
oiaohmMS has really forgot history when Motorola first went Linux core Nokia went and sued them.Oct 07 00:05
hazzyOh, really?Oct 07 00:06
oiaohmWith way more grounds than what MS has.  hazzyOct 07 00:06
oiaohmMotorala was using symbian before that.Oct 07 00:06
oiaohmNokia suspected Motorala had crossed patents and nicked code.Oct 07 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Good, I've downloaded a rom pack(467 games, 20MB) and I'm eager to play the games! :-DOct 07 00:06
hazzyBut Nokia lost?Oct 07 00:06
oiaohmNo Nokia won.Oct 07 00:07
oiaohmMotorala pays Nokia for particular patents.Oct 07 00:07
oiaohmStill did not change motorala plans.Oct 07 00:07
oiaohmSo Microsoft distrupting Motorolas plans over android not going to happen.Oct 07 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith and if you have an Android phone, try Marvin - Another great way to emulate the good old Spectrum!Oct 07 00:08
oiaohmOnly thing that changes Motorola direction is MotorolaOct 07 00:08
hazzyHahaOct 07 00:08
hazzyWellOct 07 00:08
hazzyMicrosoft has never gotten companies to change direction based on lawsuitsOct 07 00:08
hazzyFor example, Linux on serversOct 07 00:09
oiaohmIt has.Oct 07 00:09
oiaohmThere are quite a few companies that provide windows servers to keep MS at bay.Oct 07 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith BTW my favourite game of all time on the Spectrum was "Rtype" probably the best arcade conversation the Speccy ever did.Oct 07 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes I loved the spanish games. Mad Mix 2 is one of my favsOct 07 00:10
hazzyWell, for the most part, Linux is kicking IIS's assOct 07 00:10
oiaohmTrueOct 07 00:10
oiaohmBut Linux would be kicking ass even better if MS servers were not even listed in some areas.Oct 07 00:11
oiaohmAnd windows had to be installed by the end user.Oct 07 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Had a busy day, work and then a look at a great MMORG for Linux (and one I hadn't previously heard of) review coming!Oct 07 00:11
hazzyYou're rightOct 07 00:11
hazzyGood pointOct 07 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Theres also a look at Atari ST emulation on !Linux coming up and light at the end of the tunnel in respect of getting the oggcast out.Oct 07 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] and the how to get a Windows 7 refund -Openbytes has the answer! (its really rather simple), busy time coming up, luckily I have 3 days off.Oct 07 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] IGP Blog :: #COICA amended, still threatens Internet security https://eff.org/r.1sJOct 07 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IGP Blog :: COICA amended, still threatens Internet security .::. Size~: 31.91 KBOct 07 00:15
schestowitzhttp://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/10/facebook-moves-closer-eff-bill-privacy-rightsOct 07 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook Moves Closer to EFF Bill of Privacy Rights | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 27.59 KBOct 07 00:15
schestowitzLOLOct 07 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Microsoft Employees Divided on Ballmer http://tinyurl.com/3xyctoc - 50% want him to stay? - Yeah right. !microsoft !windowsOct 07 00:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Watch - Corporate - Microsoft Employees Divided on Ballmer .::. Size~: 39.7 KBOct 07 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Netbook por R$ 599, s/sistema operacional http://bit.ly/cHu8pqOct 07 00:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Netbook 10.1 Intel Atom N270 1,6 GHZ 1GB HD 160GB - CompreDaChina .::. Size~: 67.54 KBOct 07 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Netbook, no operating system, 356.866 USD. Chinese gadgets invading... http://bit.ly/cHu8pqOct 07 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Netbook 10.1 Intel Atom N270 1,6 GHZ 1GB HD 160GB - CompreDaChina .::. Size~: 67.54 KBOct 07 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] If you are changing distro, consider looking at !Sabayon first. http://www.sabayon.it/ !linux !fossOct 07 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And thats me done for the night. After tomorrow I have three days off work. Can't be bad.....Oct 07 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sabayon Linux Five Oh! .::. Size~: 48.21 KBOct 07 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: IGP Blog :: #COICA amended, still threatens Internet security https://eff.org/r.1sJOct 07 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @krisguy @fabsh @methoddan Symbian has been crap for years.Oct 07 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes No shit your uncle worked 4 Sir Clive!!! U r the luckiest bastard on earth! :-DOct 07 00:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IGP Blog :: COICA amended, still threatens Internet security .::. Size~: 31.91 KBOct 07 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Work will be hell tomorrow....Oct 07 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @bkuhn News,everyone. !SFLC oggcast, Software Freedom Law Show,is OVER! Good news,everyone! @kaz & I've a new show: http://faif.us/ @faifOct 07 00:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mono 2.8 Is Out With C# 4.0, Better Performance: While many in the open-source community do not like Mono on their... http://bit.ly/bDbaTTOct 07 00:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Mono 2.8 Is Out With C# 4.0, Better Performance .::. Size~: 15.74 KBOct 07 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] EULA = Enslave yoU Long AfterOct 07 00:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @chicagonpg: Today's word of the day boys and girls is crimeware. http://is.gd/fOIeoOct 07 00:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Divine irony http://ur1.ca/1zqilOct 07 00:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Em 5 compras a AP portuguesa ofereceu à Microsoft mais de 1/3 do aumento dos medicamentos segundo a ANF. Lindo serviço público.Oct 07 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Ou melhor; em 5 compras a AP portuguesa ofereceu à Microsoft mais de 1/3 do aumento dos medicamentos segundo a ANF. RICO serviço público.Oct 07 01:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Even Though I'm Free, I Am Not http://ur1.ca/1zqwaOct 07 01:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Wiped out... It was definitely Wednesday today. But I got a huge pile of stuff done. Time to chill with SupaWife.Oct 07 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for October 14, 2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/408337/rssOct 07 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] 10 minutes file! Upload, and send the link to your friends! http://10minutefile.com/Oct 07 02:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Helsinki Hovercraft Runs On The Sun From Start to Finnish | Autopia | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/1zr6oOct 07 02:36
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gnufreexhiOct 07 02:48
sebsebsebgnufreex: hiOct 07 02:50
gnufreexWhat's upOct 07 02:50
sebsebsebnmOct 07 02:50
sebsebsebnot muchOct 07 02:50
gnufreexI am catching up on the news...Oct 07 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Slashdot Mobile Story | G2 Detects When Rooted and Reinstalls Stock OS" from http://ur1.ca/1zrbsOct 07 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] No sympathy here http://ur1.ca/1zrc0Oct 07 02:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Mobile Story | G2 Detects When Rooted and Reinstalls Stock OS .::. Size~: 157.36 KBOct 07 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Rat controls vehicle with its brain, Pinky and The Brain apply for 'one last run' -- Engadget http://ur1.ca/1zrdoOct 07 03:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Deus não precisa ser contra o #aborto. Nós é que precisamos. ABORTO NÃO !!!Oct 07 03:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] command line to optimize all table from a mysql database | commandlinefu.com http://ur1.ca/1zrfjOct 07 03:11
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gnufreexLefty is trolling pretty badly... http://identi.ca/conversation/53826093#notice-54523883Oct 07 03:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 114.77 KBOct 07 03:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Hilarious discussion on Reddit: http://is.gd/fOUdN (via @tylana)Oct 07 03:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #baseball Orlando Hudson scores on Jorge Posada's passed ball. Twins lead Yanks 3-0 via @stavOct 07 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] seeds@openspora.com is me and i and itOct 07 03:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] No wonder the songs that were playing weren't that good, it was my neighbour radio !lastfmOct 07 03:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] 27 Signs That The Standard Of Living For America’s Middle Class Is Dropping Like A Rock http://ur1.ca/1zrofOct 07 03:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 27 Signs That The Standard Of Living For Americas Middle Class Is Dropping Like A Rock .::. Size~: 89.82 KBOct 07 03:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Linux 2.6.36-rc7 Kernel Does Make It Out: As was anticipated seven days ago when releasing the Linux 2.6.36-rc... http://bit.ly/b8VqjeOct 07 03:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Linux 2.6.36-rc7 Kernel Does Make It Out .::. Size~: 15.74 KBOct 07 03:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @schestowitz Get #ACTA early http://www.zoobab.com/local--files/acta-20101006/acta-oct-2010.pdfOct 07 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @mohanpram 27 Signs That The Standard Of Living For America’s Middle Class Is Dropping Like A Rock http://ur1.ca/1zrofOct 07 03:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 27 Signs That The Standard Of Living For Americas Middle Class Is Dropping Like A Rock .::. Size~: 89.82 KBOct 07 03:46
sebsebsebgnufreex: Why aren't you sleeping?Oct 07 03:47
gnufreexGet up early...Oct 07 03:47
gnufreexlolOct 07 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds hey so is Dark Blue only 10 episodes per season?Oct 07 03:48
sebsebsebohOct 07 03:48
sebsebsebgnufreex: I want to catch up on Linux stuff to, but  more than a months worth, so yep quite behindOct 07 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds: you know you add anyone yet, it say it's down for maintenance as there is bug they found that needs to be patchedOct 07 03:50
gnufreexI am litle bit off sync latley, catched a cold/fever so I couldn't sleep properly. But I ma better now.Oct 07 03:50
sebsebseboh okOct 07 03:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] DRPA hits PATCO http://ur1.ca/1zrszOct 07 03:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram i think so man. it sucks thoughOct 07 03:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram yea i added one personOct 07 03:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: RT @rahulsundaram: who is suing whom in the telecoms trade http://ur1.ca/1zlrk software patents disaster http://bit.ly/ckqtYWOct 07 04:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds oh cool I'm not able toOct 07 04:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Whos Suing Whom In The Telecoms Trade? .::. Size~: 62.42 KBOct 07 04:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds looks like we need to wait till summerOct 07 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram seems that way. check out tvmixer.infoOct 07 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @kaz The Software Freedom Law Show is Dead, Free as in Freedom, a new show by Bradley and Karen, lives! http://ur1.ca/1zn7yOct 07 04:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @fontana RT @kaz The Software Freedom Law Show is Dead, Free as in Freedom, a new show by Bradley and Karen, lives! http://ur1.ca/1zn7yOct 07 04:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Freedom Law Show 0x2E & Free as in Freedom 0x00: Goodbye, and Ahoy Hoy! - Oggcast - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 14.5 KBOct 07 04:21
sebsebsebgnufreex: hmmOct 07 04:21
sebsebsebgnufreex: well teh fan boy site mentioned it, and now there is much more than 315 or so users for Ubuntu, when I last looked. http://www.dudalibre.com/gnulinuxcounter?lang=enOct 07 04:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DudaLibre.com - Global campaign: GNU/Linux use and distributions .::. Size~: 41.24 KBOct 07 04:22
sebsebsebhttp://www.dudalibre.com/gnulinuxcounter?lang=enOct 07 04:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DudaLibre.com - Global campaign: GNU/Linux use and distributions .::. Size~: 41.24 KBOct 07 04:22
sebsebseband Mandriva isn't at the bottom now hmmOct 07 04:22
sebsebsebat least UK is showing now though,  didn't  when I votedOct 07 04:22
gnufreexUnrealistic stats.Oct 07 04:22
gnufreexFedora has more usersOct 07 04:23
gnufreexI mean in percentage.Oct 07 04:23
sebsebsebgnufreex: well Steve Ballmer  says that Linux has more  market share than Mac OS XOct 07 04:23
gnufreexHe sliped there, broke his 1% illusion that he spent lots of money to maintainOct 07 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram what distro your running right now?Oct 07 04:25
gnufreexNetApps mains customer is Microsoft.Oct 07 04:25
sebsebsebgnufreex: Fanboy site was a bit late at picking up on the link it seems though. However that is a good blog entry about it. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/we-are-more-than-1-initiative-aims-to-prove-linux-is-bigger-than-you-think/Oct 07 04:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We are more than 1% initiative aims to prove Linux is bigger than people think .::. Size~: 51.73 KBOct 07 04:27
sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/we-are-more-than-1-initiative-aims-to-prove-linux-is-bigger-than-you-think/Oct 07 04:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We are more than 1% initiative aims to prove Linux is bigger than people think .::. Size~: 51.73 KBOct 07 04:27
sebsebsebgnufreex: I found out about it last night :DOct 07 04:28
sebsebseboh it was published on the 6thOct 07 04:29
gnufreex1% is now more than 20 milionOct 07 04:29
sebsebsebso I guess they weren't late to report about that thenOct 07 04:29
gnufreexWe surely have moreOct 07 04:29
sebsebseband yes 1% is a lot of people evenOct 07 04:29
gnufreexI say it is about 40 milon.Oct 07 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If you are interested in having your dents be posted automatically in #techrights @ freenode let me knowOct 07 04:30
sebsebsebgnufreex: well if thats so, commercial software companies are pretty stupid, to not be making for it, most of themOct 07 04:32
sebsebsebwell I mean if they want to be making even more moneyOct 07 04:32
gnufreexI kinda like thatOct 07 04:32
sebsebsebgnufreex: however commercial software, most of it is junkware anywayOct 07 04:33
sebsebsebeven though with games for example, most people think they aren'tOct 07 04:33
sebsebsebwhen they are comecialOct 07 04:33
gnufreexWhat people want is Photoshop and such.Oct 07 04:33
sebsebseband Photoshop uhmm isn't that amazing really I guessOct 07 04:33
gnufreexThey wouldn't be satisfied with PhotoImpactOct 07 04:33
gnufreexOr something like thatOct 07 04:33
gnufreexIt is just brandOct 07 04:33
sebsebsebmost people who use Photoshop use pirate copys propbably, since the priceOct 07 04:34
gnufreexI think if those won't port, then it makes no difference.Oct 07 04:34
gnufreexAlso, I don't know how much will impact on GIMPOct 07 04:34
sebsebsebGimp is seen as a joke, by many who do graphics designOct 07 04:34
gnufreexI don't think so.Oct 07 04:35
sebsebsebI do think soOct 07 04:35
gnufreexI have supported one 3D studioOct 07 04:35
gnufreexInstalled stuff and suchOct 07 04:35
gnufreexThey use RHEL, GIMP, AutroDesk Maya, Houdiny, and Blender.Oct 07 04:35
gnufreexMix.Oct 07 04:35
gnufreexAlso, they use some JBoss midleware for rendering cluster.Oct 07 04:36
gnufreexThey speak highly of GIMPOct 07 04:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds Ubuntu 10.10, you?Oct 07 04:36
sebsebsebok well Open Office is seen as not good enough by most Windows users who use Microsoft Office, that also know about it I guessOct 07 04:36
gnufreexThere are lots of detractors who try to bash everythign ope source.Oct 07 04:37
gnufreexLots of people complain on Microosft Ribbon crapOct 07 04:37
gnufreexThey want old menus backOct 07 04:37
schestowitzzoobab: could you post all your links and stuff via identica and set up identica such that it sends copies to your twitter account? This way we'll get all your dents here in IRCOct 07 04:37
gnufreexBut they usually get "suck it up"Oct 07 04:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram sabayon on netbook. debian testing on desktopOct 07 04:38
sebsebsebschestowitz: one of the reasons I like this channel, and before it the old one is, becasue of those noticesOct 07 04:38
gnufreexWhen they complain on open source, then it is crap, lets go Microsoft.Oct 07 04:38
schestowitzsebsebseb: it covers most Linux newsOct 07 04:38
sebsebsebschestowitz: the notices wil yeah, but  loads I won't see as wellOct 07 04:38
schestowitzI hardly need to rely on RSS as much as I used to, But you need to set up an account tooOct 07 04:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: maybe I have already signed up :DOct 07 04:39
schestowitzgnufreex: I'm going through mobbyists dents ATMOct 07 04:39
schestowitzWill paste some here as I go alongOct 07 04:39
schestowitzFor laughOct 07 04:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: ,but no I haven'tOct 07 04:39
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca./sebsebsebOct 07 04:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Public timeline - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 46.87 KBOct 07 04:40
schestowitz"Roy"?Oct 07 04:40
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh is there one? I haven't signed upOct 07 04:40
gnufreexschestowitz: Mobbyists are attacking bradley kuhn on identi.caOct 07 04:40
schestowitzAddedOct 07 04:41
schestowitzsebsebseb: you didOct 07 04:41
schestowitzoct 5thOct 07 04:41
sebsebsebschestowitz: no I didn'tOct 07 04:41
schestowitzSo someone else didOct 07 04:42
schestowitzMaybe the trolls who lurk hereOct 07 04:42
sebsebsebschestowitz: maybe a troll did since you were mentiong here?Oct 07 04:42
schestowitzYeah..Oct 07 04:42
schestowitzNot it's hijacked, see?Oct 07 04:42
schestowitzgnufreex: I knowOct 07 04:42
schestowitzand I think in LWN, haven't checkedOct 07 04:42
schestowitzWhat a disgusting bunchOct 07 04:42
schestowitzI hope he too wakes up and realise this..Oct 07 04:43
gnufreexDid you see a link I posted? Lefty gone balistic on bradley.Oct 07 04:43
schestowitzOK, I ubsubscribe, sebsebsebOct 07 04:43
schestowitzgnufreex: haven't yetOct 07 04:43
schestowitzNeed to catch up with IRCOct 07 04:43
schestowitzThe FSF already knows what a scum he isOct 07 04:43
schestowitzI don't need to get involvedOct 07 04:43
schestowitzHe makes people hate him without anyone's helpOct 07 04:44
sebsebsebschestowitz: uhmmOct 07 04:44
sebsebsebschestowitz: the first link you gave was wrong, but I got on to itOct 07 04:44
schestowitzAnd then when people complain about him he's trying to blame meOct 07 04:44
gnufreexI thougt: "Should I flame him back"Oct 07 04:44
sebsebsebschestowitz: you signed up for me?Oct 07 04:44
schestowitzsebsebseb: I didn'tOct 07 04:44
gnufreexBut I decide "not this time"Oct 07 04:44
schestowitzA troll didOct 07 04:44
schestowitzSet up an account at a different nameOct 07 04:44
schestowitzBefore the trolls doOct 07 04:44
schestowitzYou didn't sign up the other day, now you have an imposterOct 07 04:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: uhmm what can be done about this troll signing up?Oct 07 04:45
schestowitzI know many people who read IRC logsOct 07 04:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: your fault, you were mentioning it hereOct 07 04:45
schestowitzgnufreex: he's a waste of tiemOct 07 04:45
schestowitz*time too!Oct 07 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @zoobab The central EU patent court you are pushing for has great chances to create caselaw in favour of software patentsOct 07 04:46
gnufreexI don't know what effect it might had, but maybe more people see he is a troll. He is also trolling Paul Ryan (segphault from ARS). But he is more sleezy with him, tries to convert him to his RMS hatting cause.Oct 07 04:47
schestowitzgnufreex: they're fighting notOct 07 04:47
schestowitzOpponents of freedom that is... slurs, trolling, lawsuits...Oct 07 04:47
schestowitzCause Freedom is winningOct 07 04:47
schestowitzSo bradley should take this as a badge of honour. I'll tell him now too.Oct 07 04:48
schestowitzgnufreex: yeahOct 07 04:49
schestowitzHe tried Perens tooOct 07 04:49
schestowitzHold on, I'll show youOct 07 04:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: someone else is sebsebseb on Twitter, and thats been quite a whileOct 07 04:49
gnufreexPerens gave him a finger. And wrote it down on LWNOct 07 04:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @bkuhn If opponents of freedom bother you right now, take this as a badge of honour. It means you do something right.Oct 07 04:50
gnufreexSaid he was cryingOct 07 04:50
gnufreexWaaaaOct 07 04:50
gnufreexwwaaaaOct 07 04:50
schestowitzhttp://lwn.net/Articles/367127/Oct 07 04:50
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schestowitzBruce Perens:Oct 07 04:50
schestowitz"Oct 07 04:50
schestowitz    I ran into Lefty at a community summit out here a while back, and his emotional state was really high. He explained his beef with RMS with a cry in his voice, I kid you not. When I was less than sympathetic, he practically ran out of the room in tears.Oct 07 04:50
schestowitz    Now, I am no stranger to getting emotional about things. But I’ve learned that it doesn’t generally help me win the argument.Oct 07 04:50
schestowitz    He really needs to focus on ACCESS, which, IMO, is a sinking ship. RMS isn’t the big problem in front of him.Oct 07 04:50
schestowitz"Oct 07 04:50
schestowitzNice self-nuke right thereOct 07 04:51
schestowitzBack ti kindergartenOct 07 04:51
schestowitz"don't eat sand, children"Oct 07 04:51
schestowitzplease don't POct 07 04:52
schestowitz*PMOct 07 04:52
schestowitzAnd I *told* you to open that accountOct 07 04:52
schestowitzYou didn't listenOct 07 04:52
schestowitzJust like I reserved openrights and techrights as soon as they were mentioned hereOct 07 04:52
schestowitzand techrights.comOct 07 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @stephanfeb: #BarcampSG6 is this weekend. http://www.flickevents.com/e/barcampsg6. I hear it's going to be good ;)Oct 07 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] watching movie "steel toes" on #netflix. jewish lawyer defends a skinhead who murdered a pakistani immigrantOct 07 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds cool, yeah my distro hopping days are behind me :)Oct 07 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jamie_love #ACTA can include, exclude, or provide for possible inclusion of anything. It is really stupid to include patents.Oct 07 04:55
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Diablo-D3you knowOct 07 04:55
Diablo-D3I was thinkingOct 07 04:55
Diablo-D3this whole patents bullshit could be solvedOct 07 04:55
Diablo-D3REQUIRE companies to make money with patentsOct 07 04:55
Diablo-D3as in, a company cannot refuse to license it to othersOct 07 04:56
Diablo-D3they MUST do itOct 07 04:56
Diablo-D3so all these patent hoarders would be fuckedOct 07 04:56
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26450112959 "@jackschofield And good morning to you too, Jack. But still with the ad hominem? You have no cogent argument or analysis?"Oct 07 04:56
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schestowitzMicrosoft Jack attacks people tooOct 07 04:56
Diablo-D3because they sit on the patents and do nothing with themOct 07 04:56
schestowitzEven IBM employeesOct 07 04:56
Diablo-D3which would invalidate the patents under my rulesOct 07 04:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] #BarcampSG6 is this weekend. http://www.flickevents.com/e/barcampsg6. I hear it's going to be good ;) via @stephanfebOct 07 04:56
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Diablo-D3and you cant just sueOct 07 04:57
Diablo-D3you can only sue if the other side fails to license the patentOct 07 04:57
Diablo-D3so all these companies would be fuckedOct 07 04:57
schestowitzme: "@rcweir don't waste your time worrying about @jackschofield insulting you. It's just a bitter old man. Tweet about #odf , not #mobbyists"Oct 07 04:58
Diablo-D3IBM and Apple and Intel and whoever else would just be like "oh sure, we'll pay you similarly to what we pay everyone else"Oct 07 04:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rcweir don't waste your time worrying about @jackschofield insulting you. It's just a bitter old man. Tweet about #odf , not #mobbyistsOct 07 04:58
Diablo-D3which would be a fraction of what these patent companies would get in courtOct 07 04:58
schestowitzDiablo-D3: true!!Oct 07 04:58
Diablo-D3so, we could still have swpats (bad, but well supported), but you couldnt troll with themOct 07 04:59
Diablo-D3you'd HAVE to use themOct 07 04:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Burma refugees forced into slavery in Thailand http://ur1.ca/1zs7xOct 07 05:00
Diablo-D3it'd totally fuck these people overOct 07 05:02
Diablo-D3and you wouldnt be allowed to say like, a BEEELLLION dollars, complete with dr evil pinkyOct 07 05:02
Diablo-D3because then they could sue you for whatever it is companies sue each other for when you do thisOct 07 05:03
Diablo-D3and IBM has more lawyers than youOct 07 05:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Skeptoid said it best when it put it along the lines of, "for every myth you bust, someone's feelings are bound to be hurt." !techrightsOct 07 05:03
Diablo-D3I specifically mention IBM because they tend to be attacked over patentsOct 07 05:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @techglance: Yahoo And The Incredibly Expanding Accordion Search Box http://tcrn.ch/9eJw6SOct 07 05:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techrights does not endorse ad hominem attacks. When an issue comes up and gets addressed, people behind that issue may be named.Oct 07 05:05
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Diablo-D3schestowitz: man, I could never get elected presidentOct 07 05:05
Diablo-D3I use Common Sense (a goddamned super power)Oct 07 05:05
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/26465467300 "v"Oct 07 05:06
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: you're not religious, eitherOct 07 05:06
Diablo-D3I amOct 07 05:06
schestowitzIt's a prerequisite in the USOct 07 05:06
Diablo-D3just not the whole christian extremist shitOct 07 05:06
schestowitzDiablo-D3: you could pretendOct 07 05:06
Diablo-D3my God believes in common senseOct 07 05:06
Diablo-D3see, in my version of the bible, the 0th commandment Thou shalt use Common SenseOct 07 05:06
schestowitzIt's binaryOct 07 05:07
schestowitzStarts from 0?Oct 07 05:07
Diablo-D3the 10 commandments are just examples of the 0th commandmentOct 07 05:07
schestowitz"Commandment one if the Commandment to share your code..."Oct 07 05:07
gnufreexschestowitz: Who's that jack guy? Is he a mobbyist?Oct 07 05:07
Diablo-D3so theres really 11Oct 07 05:07
Diablo-D3I always thought jack schofield was fictionalOct 07 05:07
schestowitzgnufreex: some hack from The GuardianOct 07 05:07
schestowitz"Microsoft Jack" he's calledOct 07 05:08
Diablo-D3gnufreex: hes a complete dickwadOct 07 05:08
Diablo-D3I should write to Bill GatesOct 07 05:08
gnufreexHe is one of Gates' hires?Oct 07 05:08
Diablo-D3"Dear Bill,Oct 07 05:08
schestowitzHe writes stuff like http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jul/14/slashdotOct 07 05:08
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Diablo-D3I know you're the richest man alive. If you and your cohorts are going to hire trolls on the Internet to troll in favor of Microsoft, please hire entertaining ones. The current crop are boring and repetitive.Oct 07 05:09
Diablo-D3Signed,Oct 07 05:09
schestowitzgnufreex: he whitewashes MSFT/billOct 07 05:09
Diablo-D3A concerned Linux user"Oct 07 05:09
schestowitzSo he doesn't like techrightsOct 07 05:09
*Diablo-D3 snickersOct 07 05:09
gnufreexHe probably got flamed for stupidity, so he hates /.Oct 07 05:09
Diablo-D3how can you hate /.Oct 07 05:09
Diablo-D3thats like hating /b/Oct 07 05:09
Diablo-D3or the Republican partyOct 07 05:10
Diablo-D3they cant help they're retardedOct 07 05:10
Diablo-D3they were born that wayOct 07 05:10
Diablo-D3(or did enough drugs to get that way, re: Palin)Oct 07 05:10
gnufreexme thinks slasdot is coolOct 07 05:10
*gnufreex thinks slasdot is coolOct 07 05:11
gnufreexThat's more like itOct 07 05:11
Diablo-D3I have a very early slashdot idOct 07 05:11
Diablo-D3so I have the grandfathered rights to say slashdot sucksOct 07 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rcweir if you insult grandpa Jack, then he'll do a hit piece on you like he did Slashdot for example http://ur1.ca/1zseeOct 07 05:11
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Diablo-D3Ive been around along enough to say that slashdot hasnt even changedOct 07 05:11
gnufreexInfidel!Oct 07 05:11
Diablo-D3it sucked then, it sucks nowOct 07 05:11
Diablo-D3gnufreex: I've been on the front page of slashdot three timesOct 07 05:12
Diablo-D3even roy hasnt been there yetOct 07 05:12
schestowitzI have many timesOct 07 05:13
schestowitzLike 10Oct 07 05:13
Diablo-D3Ive never seen you thereOct 07 05:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rcweir There's this attempt to suggest (by Microsoft) that ODF adherence is a "religious" thing though it is OOXML/MSFT that's about faithOct 07 05:13
schestowitzI have "Excellent" karmaOct 07 05:13
Diablo-D3meh, most of my karma wore off :<Oct 07 05:13
*sebsebseb screw identicaOct 07 05:13
Diablo-D3I used to have whatever the highest wasOct 07 05:13
schestowitzCause you trollOct 07 05:13
schestowitzYou probably write "oldfag" thereOct 07 05:13
schestowitzLike you do hereOct 07 05:13
schestowitzIt's not 4chanOct 07 05:14
*sebsebseb is not happyOct 07 05:14
Diablo-D3No, I dont troll on /.Oct 07 05:14
Diablo-D3I dont troll on 4chan either, actuallyOct 07 05:14
*schestowitz slips LSD into sebsebseb's drinkOct 07 05:14
Diablo-D3please remember, theres more to 4chan than /b/Oct 07 05:14
*Diablo-D3 stays the fuck out of /b/, scary placeOct 07 05:14
schestowitzIs it remotely possible to troll on 4chan?Oct 07 05:14
Diablo-D3schestowitz: its just that I used to have the highest karma level, but it wore off because I quit commenting for yearsOct 07 05:14
*gnufreex laughsOct 07 05:14
schestowitzIt'll like acting all crazy in a nuthouseOct 07 05:14
Diablo-D3yes, yes it is, in fact, possible to troll on 4chanOct 07 05:14
schestowitzDiablo-D3: it doesn't wear offOct 07 05:15
Diablo-D3Ive seen epic thread screencapsOct 07 05:15
sebsebsebmaybe just a coincidence that it is regsitered the day after being mentioned hereOct 07 05:15
Diablo-D3it does wear off when they start archiving storiesOct 07 05:15
Diablo-D3but it takes awhileOct 07 05:15
schestowitzsebsebseb: no coincidenceOct 07 05:15
Diablo-D3schestowitz: it didnt use to, btwOct 07 05:15
schestowitzThere are hundreds who read all the IRC logs, I seeOct 07 05:15
schestowitzSomeone wanted your place, I guessOct 07 05:16
Diablo-D3schestowitz: I still have a positive karmaOct 07 05:16
schestowitzAnd put "roy" in nameOct 07 05:16
schestowitz<Diablo-D3> it does wear off when they start archiving storiesOct 07 05:16
schestowitzNo, that's pagerankOct 07 05:16
sebsebsebSo this is what I get for not registering for idnetica pretty much straight away?Oct 07 05:16
Diablo-D3no, thats karma.Oct 07 05:16
schestowitzsebsebseb: yesOct 07 05:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: plus the twitter name has been registred for quite a whileOct 07 05:16
Diablo-D3schestowitz: a lot of my comments dont even appear in my history anymoreOct 07 05:16
sebsebsebalso in the past I did have someone going on Freenode with my name, untill I put nick protection onOct 07 05:17
*schestowitz checks...Oct 07 05:17
schestowitzhttp://slashdot.org/~schestowitzOct 07 05:17
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sebsebsebschestowitz: well your fault it got registered it seems, you were the one nagging me loads to sign up when I didn't want toOct 07 05:17
*Diablo-D3 cant click on urls atm, btwOct 07 05:18
Diablo-D3waiting for ff trunk to rebuildOct 07 05:18
schestowitzDiablo-D3 is rightOct 07 05:18
schestowitzOld comments become inaccessibleOct 07 05:19
Diablo-D3yeah and when they do, they no longer count towards your karmaOct 07 05:19
Diablo-D3its weirdOct 07 05:19
schestowitz'new' slashdotOct 07 05:19
Diablo-D3the comments arent gone btwOct 07 05:19
schestowitzI knowOct 07 05:19
Diablo-D3they just statically archive the dataOct 07 05:19
schestowitzJust not discoverableOct 07 05:19
Diablo-D3I wouldnt have written the system that wayOct 07 05:19
schestowitzWhich is bad designOct 07 05:19
Diablo-D3well, marginally badOct 07 05:19
Diablo-D3the data isnt lostOct 07 05:19
schestowitzMaybe /, will be shut down within 5 yearsOct 07 05:20
sebsebsebHello people reading these logs?  Who don't come to the channel.  Why?  Why bother?  Why not just let people use whatever software they want?  I have to,  if it was up to me, I woudn't have most of todays  computer users Windows most of the time by choice, but that is not for me to decide.Oct 07 05:20
schestowitzCan't back up one's dataOct 07 05:20
Diablo-D3its probably archived in offline storageOct 07 05:20
Diablo-D3or indirect nearlineOct 07 05:20
sebsebsebWhy not let people use whatever software  they want, if thats Linux and you don't like it so be it,  why troll about it?Oct 07 05:21
Diablo-D3they can rebuild old pages if they need toOct 07 05:21
Diablo-D3sebsebseb: because its about moneyOct 07 05:21
Diablo-D3I dont understand the obsession with moneyOct 07 05:21
Diablo-D3Its just a tool to achieve endsOct 07 05:21
Diablo-D3its like everything elseOct 07 05:21
sebsebsebalso if you like Microsoft,  well why not help them make their products better some how, instead of trolling LInux users?  Trolls that may be reading this.Oct 07 05:21
Diablo-D3btw, if bill gates offered me a high up position in microsoft, right now, I'd accept itOct 07 05:22
sebsebsebor if its Apple, same thing thereOct 07 05:22
Diablo-D3but I'd have only one requirementOct 07 05:22
Diablo-D3I can make decisions that can't be overriddenOct 07 05:22
schestowitz<Diablo-D3> Its just a tool to achieve endsOct 07 05:22
schestowitzCockfightOct 07 05:22
schestowitzNumbersOct 07 05:22
schestowitzWay to keep scoreOct 07 05:22
Diablo-D3that means dumping outside IPs and open sourcing internal projectsOct 07 05:23
schestowitzFor losers who failed at everything elseOct 07 05:23
Diablo-D3microsoft simply cant afford to tell millions of excellent coders they cant work, for free, for MicrosoftOct 07 05:23
schestowitzPower and money are not the same, just relatedOct 07 05:23
Diablo-D3and yes, there are MILLIONS of foss coders who I'd love have working for me, and they'd do it for freeOct 07 05:23
sebsebsebLet me be clear,  troll reader,  I don't hate Microsoft or Apple,  I am just not happy that most computer users don't have the 3rd choice as an option to them, because they don't know about it, yes thats right the 3rd choice,  yep the 3rd choice,  Desktop Linux!Oct 07 05:23
Diablo-D3if I started GPLv3ing (or ASL2, or CDDL, or any anti-swpats osi approved license) microsoft owned codeOct 07 05:24
Diablo-D3people would submit patches.Oct 07 05:24
Diablo-D3oh yes, and I'd fire India.Oct 07 05:24
schestowitzgnufreex: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/26469200578Oct 07 05:24
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Diablo-D3the whole country.Oct 07 05:25
schestowitzThe mobbyists try to poison people against Microsoft opponentsOct 07 05:25
Diablo-D3the only people we'd need to retain are people to provide native customer service for indiansOct 07 05:25
Diablo-D3and you know what?Oct 07 05:25
Diablo-D3I'd save Microsoft tens of millions every yearOct 07 05:25
Diablo-D3and would cement Microsoft as the king of softwareOct 07 05:25
Diablo-D3but Microsoft just cant see itOct 07 05:25
Diablo-D3Microsoft just doesnt get itOct 07 05:25
gnufreexscestowitz: Nothing new, better say he is lying becuase somebody might beleive.Oct 07 05:26
Diablo-D3this is why Linux has already wonOct 07 05:26
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26470776314 "Migration from DOC to ODF happens much more than OOXML to ODF since most users are still on Office 2003."Oct 07 05:26
Diablo-D3Linux was written by people who get itOct 07 05:26
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Diablo-D3I get it, Roy gets it, everyone in here gets itOct 07 05:26
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26470906594 "@jackschofield Responding to critics is not the same as agreeing with them. It is just being professional. You should try it sometime."Oct 07 05:26
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schestowitzHe defends meOct 07 05:26
Diablo-D3Google gets it.Oct 07 05:26
Diablo-D3IBM gets it.Oct 07 05:26
Diablo-D3I'd like to say most of the computer industry gets it.Oct 07 05:26
Diablo-D3Microsoft is the last hold outOct 07 05:26
Diablo-D3even Apple gets it in their own little perverted way.Oct 07 05:27
Diablo-D3Apple tends to take more than they give back, but at least they take it; thats still better than MicrosoftOct 07 05:27
Diablo-D3Microsoft doesnt even take itOct 07 05:27
sebsebsebAlso even Steve Ballmer,  troll readers, thinks that Linux has really more market share than Mac OS X, troll readers, http://www.osnews.com/story/21035/Ballmer_Linux_Bigger_Competitor_than_AppleOct 07 05:28
Diablo-D3they develop it inhouse, taking longer than we did, and doing it far worse than we didOct 07 05:28
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sebsebsebhttp://www.osnews.com/story/21035/Ballmer_Linux_Bigger_Competitor_than_AppleOct 07 05:28
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/carlopiana/status/26472484139 " rcweir: @jackschofield Déclassé, Jack. You should get back to your work. Somewhere someone is confused about how to use a mouse. You can help. "Oct 07 05:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir [to "MSFT Jack"] You're the last person to talk about professionalism. You brought up Roy's mother in your attack. Contemptible.Oct 07 05:28
schestowitz*LOL*Oct 07 05:28
schestowitz"Ask Jack"Oct 07 05:28
schestowitzHow to use a mouseOct 07 05:28
schestowitz" rcweir: @jackschofield As a matter of honor I decline to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. " http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26474995454Oct 07 05:29
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schestowitzI haven't seen these till nowOct 07 05:29
Diablo-D3I dunnoOct 07 05:29
gnufreexwtf http://www.nytimes.com/external/idg/2010/10/06/06idg-motorola-files-patent-lawsuits-against-apple-37566.html?partner=rss&emc=rssOct 07 05:30
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Diablo-D3maybe Im the only one here who thinks, under the proper leadership, Microsoft would have a place at the table, so to speakOct 07 05:30
schestowitz"rcweir: @thinkovation @glynmoody Someone must have made the analogy before of DRM to the Inclosure Acts and the effect on land redistribution?" http://twitter.com/carlopiana/status/26472484139Oct 07 05:30
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Diablo-D3Microsoft DOESNT Have to dieOct 07 05:30
sebsebsebAlso troll readers, maybe you don't like how I sometimes say negative stuff about Ubuntu in here,  or OMGubuntu anyway,  that is, because:  Most Ubuntu users don't pick their own distro,  they went Ubuntu, because they were told to use it by  soemone,  and Ubuntu is all hyped up, when other distros are better for probably most of their users, and OMGubuntu is a site that helps spread that hype.  So just like when it comes to Windows, Mac OS X,Oct 07 05:30
sebsebseband Desktop Linux,  I want users to pick their own OS, and so when it comes to Linux their own distro, not just be told what to use by someone.Oct 07 05:30
Diablo-D3Bill Gates, Balmer, the rest of those guys are *choosing* to kill Microsoft.Oct 07 05:30
gnufreexDiablo-D3 Microsoft HST OT DIEOct 07 05:30
Diablo-D3I mean, this is the insane thingOct 07 05:30
gnufreexDiablo-D3 Microsoft HAS TO DIEOct 07 05:30
Diablo-D3gnufreex: thats the thing, they dontOct 07 05:31
Diablo-D3what if I suddenly became CEO of Microsoft tommorowOct 07 05:31
gnufreexWhy notOct 07 05:31
Diablo-D3and I unilaterally rejected closed source company wideOct 07 05:31
Diablo-D3and hired the entire FOSS community, for free.Oct 07 05:31
sebsebsebWell have fun reading this log, trolls, but isn't there something better you could be doing instead?  Hey I use this channel, and I don't tend to read the stuff,  that was said when I wasn't here,  I wonder why?   Ah right yeah, because I have a lot of other things I can do on the computer.Oct 07 05:31
Diablo-D3would Microsoft have to die then?Oct 07 05:31
gnufreex<Diablo-D3: That's the thing, it would die.Oct 07 05:31
sebsebseband I also have things I can do  whilst not on the computer of course :)Oct 07 05:32
gnufreexTheir bussiness model can't support thatOct 07 05:32
Diablo-D3I mean, this is whats wrong with companies that are anti-FOSSOct 07 05:32
Diablo-D3they are telling millions of talented coders that they cant work on their software _for free_Oct 07 05:32
Diablo-D3_for_ _free_Oct 07 05:32
Diablo-D3they are not asking for a dime in returnOct 07 05:32
sebsebsebWell as they say in IRC,  don't feed the trolls, but I guess this is differnet, when you aren't actsually in the channel,  and you would probably continue to read the logs anyway,  even if  this had never happended.Oct 07 05:32
gnufreexHow can you can hire someone for free? And why would they work for micorosft ?Oct 07 05:33
Diablo-D3gnufreex: we, the people who code FOSS, _do_ work for freeOct 07 05:33
Diablo-D3very few of us have an actual day job where we code, for money, on FOSSOct 07 05:33
gnufreexAnd how would Microsoft make money when they shoot down Office and Windows. They would need to change name.Oct 07 05:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: well I didn't belive that loads of trolls read the channel logs, but now I am starting toOct 07 05:33
gnufreexAnd fire all people.Oct 07 05:33
Diablo-D3gnufreex: woah, now you're trolling a bitOct 07 05:34
Diablo-D3I'd fire most of the coders who simply can't code.Oct 07 05:34
schestowitzgnufreex: GS says MSFT should be splitOct 07 05:34
gnufreexDiablo-D3 nobdoy would work *for Microsoft* for free.Oct 07 05:34
schestowitzTHat was around yesterdayOct 07 05:34
Diablo-D3gnufreex: if they GPLv3'ed everything? I would.Oct 07 05:34
schestowitzSeparate the stuff which makes moneyOct 07 05:34
schestowitzPut the rest in the trash :-)Oct 07 05:34
Diablo-D3gnufreex: thats the thing, you're letting Balmer cloud your thoughtsOct 07 05:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #ssh makes for good monitoring of ya house using ya webcam.Oct 07 05:35
schestowitzhttp://www.mobile-computing-news.co.uk/industry-news/7543/goldman-sachs-says-microsoft-should-split.html http://www.benzinga.com/trading-ideas/technicals/10/10/511216/goldman-selling-calls-on-microsoft-msftOct 07 05:35
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schestowitz"Wall Street super power Goldman Sachs has downgraded Microsoft stock from ‘buy’ to ‘neutral’, in a highly critical note it sent to its clients. Goldman blasts Microsoft for its poor outcomes in its mobile computing efforts. The real bomb, though, was the recommendation that Microsoft split its consumer business and enterprise business into two separate wings."Oct 07 05:35
Diablo-D3gnufreex: imagine if I fired all the idiot coders, quit all the foreign takeover plots, and open sourced everything Microsoft ownedOct 07 05:35
Diablo-D3gnufreex: basically, do everything Sun did wrt JavaOct 07 05:35
gnufreexDiablo-d3: I wouldn't. THeir stuff is crap. And they are going to get under if they try something like that. To see what happens to propriatary company who tries open source but don't know how, see Sun Microsystems.Oct 07 05:35
Diablo-D3Sun knew howOct 07 05:36
Diablo-D3Oracle just put the breaks on it when they bought SunOct 07 05:36
Diablo-D3no transition is going to be perfectOct 07 05:36
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/26486619484Oct 07 05:36
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schestowitz"It also lists Microsoft as having sued HTC although the press release at the time indicated license deal without litigation."Oct 07 05:36
Diablo-D3and some people will be have to be fired if they get in the way.Oct 07 05:36
schestowitzIf that's true, it's importantOct 07 05:36
Diablo-D3I think Windows could be fixedOct 07 05:36
schestowitzExtortionOct 07 05:36
gnufreexYou could say that. But their employees were anti-open source. They were doing WaterFall development model. It doesnt computeOct 07 05:37
Diablo-D3gnufreex: I'd get rid of that well, btwOct 07 05:37
Diablo-D3waterfall development is broken even for closed source.Oct 07 05:37
Diablo-D3thats why windows is so fucked upOct 07 05:37
Diablo-D3people cant go fix shitOct 07 05:37
Diablo-D3if you've built a methodology where coders CANT code, then you've fucked up. period.Oct 07 05:37
Diablo-D3closed source or not.Oct 07 05:37
schestowitzhttp://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Red-Hat-legt-Patentstreit-um-Hibernate-bei-1102011.htmlOct 07 05:38
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gnufreexschestowitz: I missed what you said... who said tha Microsoft is going to be split?Oct 07 05:38
Diablo-D3you know why its such a joy to code for linux?Oct 07 05:38
schestowitzGOldman's axeOct 07 05:38
Diablo-D3because I can go look at the source and see what stuff I depend on is actually doingOct 07 05:38
Diablo-D3no shit docs, no undocumented behavior, its all availableOct 07 05:39
Diablo-D3and I can also one touch build virtually everything important in LinuxOct 07 05:39
Diablo-D3Microsoft's release dance for Windows is something like 6 months long and requires thousands of stepsOct 07 05:40
Diablo-D3no single person can execute itOct 07 05:40
Diablo-D3and this is wrong.Oct 07 05:40
Diablo-D3their build system isn't even intergrated into vis studio for a lot of elements tooOct 07 05:41
Diablo-D3and they don't have a working code revision systemOct 07 05:41
Diablo-D3well, many parts dontOct 07 05:41
Diablo-D3hg seems to have infected non-core stuffOct 07 05:42
Diablo-D3theres no reason why microsoft isnt using hg or git company wideOct 07 05:42
gnufreexThey hatez GPLOct 07 05:42
Diablo-D3they hate GPL as a company decisionOct 07 05:43
Diablo-D3remember, we're pretending I'd be the CEO tommorow.Oct 07 05:43
Diablo-D3no one tells the CEO no.Oct 07 05:43
Diablo-D3they didnt tell Balmer no, they're not going to tell me no.Oct 07 05:43
Diablo-D3And you know what? After I'm all done cleaning this mess upOct 07 05:43
gnufreexThey will tell you no.Oct 07 05:43
Diablo-D3I'd be saving the company billions over the next decade, and they'red no longer be any competitors.Oct 07 05:44
gnufreexThey are propriatary zealots.Oct 07 05:44
Diablo-D3gnufreex: but who outranks the CEO?Oct 07 05:44
Diablo-D3the shareholders? they already hate Balmer.Oct 07 05:44
gnufreexThey are going to kill drop a mainframe on you.Oct 07 05:44
Diablo-D3Bill? Bill doesnt even give a fuck anymore.Oct 07 05:44
Diablo-D3Bills off enjoying life somewhereOct 07 05:44
Diablo-D3After Balmer leaves, and all his cronies go with himOct 07 05:44
Diablo-D3whos leftOct 07 05:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII RT @telecomix: Erik Josefsson has signed it, sign it too! http://www.deletion-not-blocking.eu/Oct 07 05:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII Stumbled upon an FFII honourable member http://bit.ly/9BpKZg #actaOct 07 05:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @hypatiadotca: Standing up to harassment by blocking a train is a whole new level of being a badass: http://ping.fm/4wwi2Oct 07 05:45
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gnufreexYou are open sourcing their babies, they want to feed kids, you are comie, they will revoltOct 07 05:45
schestowitzgnufreex: http://www.robweir.com/blog/2010/10/odf-ingredients.htOct 07 05:45
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Diablo-D3gnufreex: yet, under me, we'll be making more money than everOct 07 05:45
schestowitzgnufreex: yes split recommendationOct 07 05:45
Diablo-D3that whole consumer computing shit? its worthless.Oct 07 05:45
Diablo-D3enterprise is where the money is madeOct 07 05:46
schestowitzgnufreex: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/26537041244Oct 07 05:46
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Diablo-D3micrososft has no enterprise holdingsOct 07 05:46
Diablo-D3can I buy a windows server from IBM? HP? Sun? even Dell doesn't.Oct 07 05:46
schestowitzAll the mobbyists find each otherOct 07 05:46
gnufreexschestowitz: I read that just now. Good recomendation. Even better that they won't listenOct 07 05:46
schestowitzAnd spread lies among themselvesOct 07 05:46
Diablo-D3I have to buy a linux machine, wipe linux off, and install windows on it.Oct 07 05:46
schestowitzIt's likalumni reunitedOct 07 05:46
Diablo-D3gnufreex: so yeahOct 07 05:47
Diablo-D3Microsoft COULD be savedOct 07 05:47
Diablo-D3but Balmer is happy destroying the company and pissing off shareholdersOct 07 05:47
Diablo-D3and its rather depressingOct 07 05:47
schestowitzgnufreex: they could make Ballmer CEO is the weaker division and then declare bankruptcyOct 07 05:47
Diablo-D3but yeahOct 07 05:47
Diablo-D3if they asked me to run the showOct 07 05:47
schestowitzThis way they can get rid of Ballmer without firing himOct 07 05:47
Diablo-D3I wouldOct 07 05:47
Diablo-D3I'd do it in a heartbeatOct 07 05:47
gnufreexDiablo-D3: I told you, Microsofties would revolt, they would kill you. They don't want to be saved.Oct 07 05:48
Diablo-D3but I'd do it my wayOct 07 05:48
Diablo-D3gnufreex: then they'd be fired and escorted off the property by securityOct 07 05:48
gnufreexThey would drop a piano on your head.Oct 07 05:48
gnufreexOr mainframeOct 07 05:48
schestowitzgnufreex: HehOct 07 05:48
Diablo-D3They wouldn't.Oct 07 05:48
Diablo-D3balmers the only one that'd be a problemOct 07 05:48
schestowitzOr chairOct 07 05:48
Diablo-D3and he'd throw a chair atmeOct 07 05:48
Diablo-D3and guess what?Oct 07 05:49
schestowitzbeat you to itOct 07 05:49
Diablo-D3that chair would have to be surgically removed from his assOct 07 05:49
Diablo-D3Im not one of his weakling yes menOct 07 05:49
Diablo-D3people like him are beneath me.Oct 07 05:50
Diablo-D3Nothing but trash to be thrown outOct 07 05:50
Diablo-D3remember, gnufreex, Im not a nice guy.Oct 07 05:50
Diablo-D3never confuse me for one.Oct 07 05:50
Diablo-D3if I became CEO of MS tommorow, these so called "microsoft insiders" would be wiped outOct 07 05:51
Diablo-D3infact, I'd order the legal department to begin proceedings against themOct 07 05:51
Diablo-D3even if we have to get the DoJ to file criminal charges against them, it would be done.Oct 07 05:52
gnufreexIf saving includes filthy GPL, then your ass is grass. You can't deal with rekligious people no matter how much bad ass you are.Oct 07 05:52
Diablo-D3yes I can.Oct 07 05:52
gnufreex*religious.Oct 07 05:52
Diablo-D3what can they do if they no longer work for the company?Oct 07 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII EU still pushing for punitive measures against patent infringements in ACTA http://bit.ly/aZvd5V #swpatsOct 07 05:53
Diablo-D3is adobe going to go wee wee wee all the way home?Oct 07 05:53
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Diablo-D3what can they possibly do to harm microsoft that they already havent done themselvesOct 07 05:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mgeist Countries have 2 yrs to sign ACTA. Takes effect after 6 countries ratify. Agt now in English, French & Spanish.Oct 07 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@mgeist can you pls do a post explaining #ACTA impact on patents? #swpatsOct 07 05:55
Diablo-D3but I'm unlikely to become CEO of Microsoft tommorowOct 07 05:55
Diablo-D3so the only alternative is just to replace them, as you would a faulty componentOct 07 05:55
gnufreexMaybe day affter that.Oct 07 05:55
Diablo-D3and we have quite a few contenders for that titleOct 07 05:55
Diablo-D3Im not a fan of the redhat distro, but redhat the company would be a good replacementOct 07 05:56
gnufreexSeriously now, I really can't fanthom what would change Micrsoft for the better. Company is created rooten inside out. You just can't change how it works.Oct 07 05:56
Diablo-D3as CEO, yes you really can.Oct 07 05:57
gnufreexNo you can't. You don't have superpowers.Oct 07 05:57
Diablo-D3it may take a year or two, but my calender seems to be pretty clear.Oct 07 05:57
Diablo-D3gnufreex: I have the ultimate super power: common sense.Oct 07 05:57
gnufreexHahahahaOct 07 05:57
gnufreexLike that will workOct 07 05:58
gnufreexCommon sense will kill Microsoft.Oct 07 05:58
Diablo-D3it'd kill the old Microsoft, yes.Oct 07 05:58
Diablo-D3and in it's place would a new one arise.Oct 07 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Jill Stein campaign http://ur1.ca/1zt0pOct 07 06:00
gnufreexI thougt this is joke, but here it comes again http://www.zdnetasia.com/motorola-sues-apple-for-patent-infringement-62203479.htmOct 07 06:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola sues Apple for patent infringement   - Hardware - News .::. Size~: 56.28 KBOct 07 06:04
gnufreexschestowitz: Motorola usues Apple. They are racing for injunciton.Oct 07 06:04
Diablo-D3yeah, how the fuck does that even workOct 07 06:05
Diablo-D3you'd think, by now, these super companies would just realize suing each other sucksOct 07 06:05
Diablo-D3its a waste of money, and both sides loseOct 07 06:05
gnufreexThey want all dead, xServe, Macs, iStufOct 07 06:05
Diablo-D3only the lawyers winOct 07 06:05
gnufreexI hope they destroy all that crApple stuff.Oct 07 06:06
gnufreexDestroying things with patents should finally show a reason that patents should be abolished.Oct 07 06:08
Diablo-D3except thats common senseOct 07 06:08
Diablo-D3and we cant have that now, can eweOct 07 06:08
gnufreexAnd those who support patents should be sued the most.Oct 07 06:08
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gnufreexApple is patenting LLVM so they can exclude people from using it down the road when it becomes ready.Oct 07 06:09
gnufreexBSD license don't have patent grant, so they can give you LLVM and sue you tomorow.Oct 07 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith Netbook, no operating system, 356.866 USD. Chinese gadgets invading... http://bit.ly/cHu8pqOct 07 06:10
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gnufreexThose idiots who are switching from GCC to clang/LLVM should think twice.Oct 07 06:10
gnufreexThey escape from GPLv3 only to be sued by Apple.Oct 07 06:11
Diablo-D3well thats the problemOct 07 06:11
Diablo-D3Apple is going ot have a lot of problems patenting other people's codeOct 07 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Apple is patenting #LLVM so they can exclude people from using it down the road when it becomes ready." -- @gnufreex #swpatsOct 07 06:11
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gnufreexDiablo-D3: They already have few patents on LLVM.Oct 07 06:12
Diablo-D3http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/06/microsoft-sends-out-lego-windows-phone-7-mockup-to-executives/Oct 07 06:12
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gnufreexMost of LLVM is written by Apple zealots. They are happy to assing to them.Oct 07 06:12
Diablo-D3gnufreex: then they're invalidOct 07 06:12
Diablo-D3you cant patent other people's codeOct 07 06:12
gnufreexHow they are invalid?Oct 07 06:12
gnufreexYou don't even have to writte code to patentOct 07 06:13
gnufreexYou are not patenting codeOct 07 06:13
Diablo-D3unnamed prior art, duh.Oct 07 06:13
Diablo-D3and how are they going to clear this with IBM and AMD?Oct 07 06:13
gnufreexBut LLVM is written mostly by Apple people.Oct 07 06:13
Diablo-D3IBM and AMD are bigger LLVM users and developers than Apple is.Oct 07 06:13
Diablo-D3and have put more money into it than Apple hasOct 07 06:13
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gnufreexhttp://en.swpat.org/wiki/Apple_Inc.#Patenting_LLVM.3FOct 07 06:15
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gnufreexRead that Diablo-D3Oct 07 06:15
Diablo-D3not really interested in reading itOct 07 06:15
Diablo-D3apple is known for trying to patent things that cant be patentedOct 07 06:15
Diablo-D3I'd like to see them trying to use IBM and AMDOct 07 06:16
Diablo-D3infact, I will pay for ring side seatsOct 07 06:16
gnufreexHow do you mean IBM and AMD?Oct 07 06:16
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gnufreexWhat they have to do with this?Oct 07 06:16
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/dnsqu/i_just_found_out_my_girlfriend_is_my_4th_cousin/Oct 07 06:16
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Diablo-D3gnufreex: they're the biggest llvm users and developers.Oct 07 06:16
Diablo-D3schestowitz: 4th cousin? so what?Oct 07 06:17
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gnufreexI don't think so... IBM has it's own propritary compilers.Oct 07 06:17
Diablo-D3gnufreex: IBM is using LLVMOct 07 06:18
Diablo-D3works better than their shitOct 07 06:18
Diablo-D3Im wondering how Apple retroactively is saying Apple wrote itOct 07 06:18
Diablo-D3since thats not true at allOct 07 06:18
Diablo-D3they only wrote ClangOct 07 06:18
Diablo-D3and Clang is just a C/C++/ObjC parser for LLVMOct 07 06:18
Diablo-D3it doesnt actually COMPILE anythingOct 07 06:18
Diablo-D3without LLVM, Clang just parses shit into LLVM's frontend languageOct 07 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] watching #criminalminds second episodeOct 07 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Reminder to self: 1.16 is greater than 1.8Oct 07 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] 3rd epi actually. sicker serial killers #criminalmindsOct 07 06:20
schestowitz[04:25] <gnufreex> NetApps mains customer is Microsoft.Oct 07 06:22
schestowitzURL?Oct 07 06:22
gnufreexIt was just asumption... they get money to get Linux counter stuck at 1%Oct 07 06:23
gnufreexBalmer said Linux is 5%Oct 07 06:23
schestowitzyesOct 07 06:24
schestowitzHigher than this in some placeOct 07 06:24
schestowitzand he rules/leaves out devicesOct 07 06:25
schestowitzThat's where growth is highOct 07 06:25
gnufreexStupid ballmer wasted money he gave Net Apps.Oct 07 06:25
gnufreexHe refuted his own lies.Oct 07 06:25
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schestowitz[06:22] <schestowitz> [04:25] <gnufreex> NetApps mains customer is Microsoft.Oct 07 06:30
schestowitzoopsOct 07 06:31
schestowitzI though net appOct 07 06:31
schestowitznetworkOct 07 06:31
schestowitzyes, msft is Net Apps client and moreOct 07 06:31
schestowitzthere's staff connection ooOct 07 06:31
schestowitztooOct 07 06:32
gnufreexYeah. I got that confusion few times. Network Appliance is litigous, why they don't make them change name?Oct 07 06:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_Market_Share#Net_ApplicationsOct 07 06:32
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schestowitzgnufreex: abrrevsOct 07 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101007 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 07 06:35
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MinceR(javascript) http://mrdoob.com/lab/javascript/effects/ie6/Oct 07 06:54
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schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/10/06/changes/Oct 07 06:55
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schestowitz"Frankly Pog, I dont know what took you so long. For someone who supposedly took this venue as a vehicle for “sharpening his debating skills”, all too often a_c’s points were nothing more than nasty cracks and sneering that contributed NOTHING to the points that he was trying to make."Oct 07 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pogson finally puts an end to Microsoft AstroTurfing in his blog. http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/10/06/changes/ "amicus_curious has been banned."Oct 07 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Failed promises and FTA's http://ur1.ca/1zthfOct 07 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith i think that's why we got a spectrum!Oct 07 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody also see http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/10/06/funding-firefox/Oct 07 07:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes 3 days off, eh? :-)Oct 07 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I would be surprised if you couldn't , its a very complete emulation.Oct 07 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another Win for Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/1ztms "Out of 279 machines, 147 have had OpenOffice.org installed on them."Oct 07 07:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eleven is Louder: Another Win for Open Source Software .::. Size~: 67.46 KBOct 07 07:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 50 Open Source Tools to Make Your Life Easier http://ur1.ca/1ztng !fs #freesoftwareOct 07 07:15
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schestowitzhttp://kotaku.com/5656307/linux-could-be-a-problem-for-mmo-handheld-the-jungleOct 07 07:17
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schestowitzDoesn't hold waterOct 07 07:17
schestowitzHow is WIndows on mobile any more receptive to devs?Oct 07 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fujitsu brings fast-boot !Linux to the infotainment domain http://ur1.ca/1zto9Oct 07 07:18
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schestowitzDisinfo/BS: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/10/05/businessinsider-firefox-is-dumping-google-search-for-bing-says-robert-scoble-deal-will-supposedly-be-announced-tomorrow-this-woul-2010-10.DTLOct 07 07:23
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schestowitzThe fuaxopensource blog on proprietary s/w news: http://www.robweir.com/blog/2010/10/odf-ingredients.htmlOct 07 07:26
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schestowitzOops,  this one from IDG:  http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/66999Oct 07 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] October Linux fest http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/15593-October-Linux-fest.html a flood of top !gnu !linux distros is arrivingOct 07 07:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Firefox 4 Feature Freeze Imminent, RC 1 Delayed http://ur1.ca/1ztt1 Microsoft #mobbyist Scoble already spreads lies about FirefoxOct 07 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SGGate: " Firefox Is Dumping Google Search For Bing, Says Robert Scoble" Well, "Reality is Dumping Robert Scoble, Says Web" #mobbyistsOct 07 07:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !google's !chromeos running on Apple !ipad [video] http://www.padgadget.com/2010/10/01/hacked-ipad-runs-google-chrome-os/ !linux !fossOct 07 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 misconceptions that are holding !Linux back http://ur1.ca/1ztu6 Very good list, Jack Wallen strikes again. +1Oct 07 07:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #mobbyists proceeds to smearing Mono opposition today. Good. Now we know Mono is indeed a risk to !gnu !linux and software freedom.Oct 07 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scribus says Desktop Publishing on !Linux is ‘Not Impossible’ http://ur1.ca/1ztvgOct 07 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] oslo is such a quiet city in the morning. every time i'm here it strikes me as mildly eerie how the streets are so muted.Oct 07 07:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Warren Spector is second coming of Jesus christ according to media http://imgur.com/gallery/5btf4Oct 07 07:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Centric [PIC] http://imgur.com/gallery/5btf4Oct 07 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] generally not a good idea to drop #mercury on your #notebook (thermometer broke)Oct 07 07:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Check out today's Severed Fifth 'Nightmares By Design' sneak peek - End Of Days - http://is.gd/fPauf - new album out Monday! #severedfifthOct 07 07:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Venice sells out http://ur1.ca/1zu0uOct 07 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/10/2010: !Linux 2.6.36 RC7, More #Android Tablets http://techrights.org/2010/10/07/more-android-tablets/Oct 07 08:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Twitter Gets New Search Engine - http://bit.ly/8YOSUo to Apache's Lucene, to be precise #twitter #search #opensourceOct 07 08:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: #possesa day 3 - let me fix your Ubuntu, Michael http://ur1.ca/1zu94Oct 07 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China Becoming Intellectual Property Powerhouse - http://bit.ly/dcWJb5 how long before West decides it doesn't like patents? #chinaOct 07 08:23
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Diablo-D3http://www.dudalibre.com/gnulinuxcounter?lang=enOct 07 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Help prove there are more than 1% !Linux users in the world! http://ur1.ca/1zaaf !debian !javaOct 07 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus. I feel shit...Oct 07 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Motorola suing Apple for patent infringement - ur1.ca/1zp88Oct 07 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody good that Twitter committed back improvements to Lucene :-)Oct 07 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Final ACTA puts Europe under more pressure for graduated response - http://bit.ly/aIkUmI European Parliament, we need you #acta #euOct 07 08:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] China warns EU off yuan pressure - ur1.ca/1zugcOct 07 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: China Becoming Intellectual Property Powerhouse - http://bit.ly/dcWJb5 how long before West decides it doesn't like patents?Oct 07 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Listing to !RatholeRadio !RR while drinking !coffeeOct 07 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @fontana: RT @kaz The Software Freedom Law Show is Dead, Free as in Freedom, a new show by Bradley and Karen, lives! http://ur1.ca/1zn7yOct 07 08:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | China Becoming Intellectual Property Powerhouse .::. Size~: 141.03 KBOct 07 08:38
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schestowitzWhat the heck does this do in a Linux site? http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7188/1/Oct 07 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz The link to the article on Murdoch pay wall appears to be brokenOct 07 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh we have a saying "la sera leoni, la mattina coglioni" exactly for this :-P After your twingotour, you sh'd be able to translate ;-)Oct 07 09:00
gnufreex[09:43:20] <schestowitz> What the heck does this do in a Linux site? http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7188/1/Oct 07 09:01
gnufreexmaybe Microsoft sponsored. They make vacum cleners that don't suck. lolOct 07 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Goodbye Greenland harpoons http://ur1.ca/1zurcOct 07 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana Yeah, I get it..... ;)Oct 07 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Final ACTA puts Europe under more pressure for graduated response - http://bit.ly/aIkUmI European Parliament, we need you #acta #euOct 07 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PayPal To Launch Micropayments Product At Developer Conference - http://tcrn.ch/cL9ok3 never worked before, why now? #micropayments #paypalOct 07 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Red Hat urges patent office to deny most software patents" http://is.gd/fPftSOct 07 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer "most" is not enough, but it's a good start. Honestly it's not up the USPTO to do the final leg on this.Oct 07 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] American People Hire High-Powered Lobbyist To Push Interests In Congress (Ty TR for Link) - ur1.ca/1zpwu Brilliant indictment of "democracy"Oct 07 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @graziano #Oracle said No to hand-over of the #OpenOffice name: http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2270858/oracles-ready-solo-openofficeOct 07 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @paul_clarke You don't do check-ins, right? You don't give away your location, right? Wrong. http://rb.tl/bxIqaF >>worrying #privacyOct 07 09:25
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schestowitzgnufreex: well it does have Microsoft ads :-)Oct 07 09:26
schestowitzJupiterMedia is full of thoseOct 07 09:26
MinceRgeekingsOct 07 09:26
schestowitzgnufreex: http://twitter.com/gnufreexOct 07 09:28
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gnufreexschestowitz: No page.Oct 07 09:28
gnufreexI don't have twitter accountOct 07 09:28
schestowitzYou could reserve itOct 07 09:28
gnufreexso someone dont hijack it?Oct 07 09:29
schestowitzand have identica spew a copy thereOct 07 09:29
schestowitzSo that when I dent the links are not brokenOct 07 09:29
gnufreexHow can I do that?Oct 07 09:29
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/schestowitz/statuses/26621978748Oct 07 09:29
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schestowitzgnufreex: there's a tickboxOct 07 09:29
schestowitziirOct 07 09:29
schestowitziircOct 07 09:29
gnufreexWait, I need to register on Twitter?Oct 07 09:30
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MinceRtime for a crApple-oracle-m$ patent war? :>Oct 07 09:32
schestowitz" Just one genetically-modified (GM) fish could wipe out local populations of the species if released into the wild, biologists have warned." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/545504.stmOct 07 09:32
schestowitzOldOct 07 09:32
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/gnufreexOct 07 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No takers on digital Olympic radio station - http://bit.ly/97JJk9 another sign that DAB is dead? #digitalradio #dabOct 07 09:33
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gnufreexschestowitz: http://twitter.com/gnufreexOct 07 09:36
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gnufreexmade account.Oct 07 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @glynmoody DAB may be great quality on high end speakers but it offers little extra on small ones, specially for the difference in priceOct 07 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] the private data police - http://bit.ly/dnUo7P "growing army of unregulated private firms watching our actions": a serious threat #privacyOct 07 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] entry level !DAB = £30, compared to entry level regular radio £3 - you expect a LOT more for 10x the price, I have one, it's "meh"Oct 07 09:40
schestowitz gnufreex: addedOct 07 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I heart something about an alternative to !dropbox there is opensource, what was the name for that? !Linux !GNUOct 07 09:50
Diablo-D3"How Steve Ballmer told me what to do with my iPad"Oct 07 09:54
Diablo-D3I can imagine where Ballmer told this guy where to put it.Oct 07 09:54
Diablo-D3http://www.markwilson.co.uk/blog/2010/10/how-steve-ballmer-told-me-what-to-do-with-my-ipad.htmOct 07 09:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: markwilson.it » How Steve Ballmer told me what to do with my iPad! .::. Size~: 46.24 KBOct 07 09:55
schestowitzDisney is evil ... http://ihscslnews.org/view_article.php?id=5Oct 07 09:55
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MinceRi would have probably told him something similar. :>Oct 07 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Non-Obvious 3D Print: Sound - http://bit.ly/c4KPZT printing LPs #fabbers #3dprinters #musicOct 07 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Martin Luther King friend and photographer was FBI informant http://ur1.ca/1zvde Spies among the activistsOct 07 09:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fabbaloo - Fabbaloo Blog - A Non-Obvious 3D Print: Sound .::. Size~: 42.13 KBOct 07 09:58
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MinceRhm.. the way winblows does (or shall i say "fucks up"?) widget layout should be a real pain in the ass if they want big buttons everywhere :>Oct 07 09:58
schestowitzApple should redesign its gadgets to have no buttonsOct 07 09:59
MinceR"The truth of the matter is the laptop weighs less – you can set it on your lap, it doesn’t weigh anything at that point" << LOLOct 07 10:00
schestowitzThe buffoons can operate it by shaking it like babiesOct 07 10:00
MinceRschestowitz: niceOct 07 10:00
MinceRwhy do they want to "operate" it anyway? blow already knows what they wantOct 07 10:00
schestowitzSteve?Oct 07 10:00
MinceRindeedOct 07 10:00
MinceRsteve "blow" jobsOct 07 10:01
schestowitzohhOct 07 10:01
schestowitzaren't the iPads the ones that blow?Oct 07 10:01
MinceRthose tooOct 07 10:01
MinceRalso, i wonder why the author of the article carries both a nokia phone and a hypePhone... perhaps because the latter is useless as a phone (or anything else)?Oct 07 10:02
ThistleWebof course iPads are hopeless toys that are useless for everything, but windows tablet series phone series 7 series ultimate professional edition will be perfect for everything the ipad is currently being used forOct 07 10:03
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MinceRindeed, which is "nothing useful, at all"Oct 07 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Mario Vargas Llosa leads protest against war crimes amnesty http://ur1.ca/1zvf2Oct 07 10:03
MinceReven a rock can do that :>Oct 07 10:03
schestowitzRocks are heavyOct 07 10:03
MinceRnot all of themOct 07 10:03
schestowitzThese comparisons are not fairOct 07 10:03
MinceRthere are rocks that are lighter than a hypePhoneOct 07 10:04
ThistleWebas usual I'd expect ballmers mocking ogfthe ipad will be used against him when he tries to sell windows tablets as being great for the exact thing he mocksOct 07 10:04
schestowitzIt also doesn't say anything about availability of "rock"Oct 07 10:04
MinceRthen again, there's one thing rocks won't do: explode.Oct 07 10:04
schestowitzSOME MIGHTOct 07 10:04
schestowitzcontents may varyOct 07 10:04
MinceR:)Oct 07 10:04
schestowitzHard to recycleOct 07 10:04
schestowitzIn Stock: 900,000Oct 07 10:04
schestowitzRead the fine prints ^*Oct 07 10:04
MinceRbtw, i suspect hypePads don't just blow... they might also blow _up_Oct 07 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NSF Data Sharing Policy Released - http://bit.ly/94Kswo "Investigators are expected to share with other researchers" #nsf #sharing #dataOct 07 10:05
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MinceRlike hypePhonesOct 07 10:05
schestowitz^* no children jumped into nets in the making of this rockOct 07 10:05
schestowitzLast week my uncle told me he got an hypePadOct 07 10:06
schestowitzThen asked me a technical question about itOct 07 10:06
schestowitzAsked if it has EXTERNAL KEYBOARD!! :-)Oct 07 10:06
schestowitzLOLOct 07 10:06
schestowitzI told him my old palm from 2002 has thatOct 07 10:06
schestowitzthe hypepad is hard to type on. Actually I should dent titOct 07 10:06
MinceRthe hypePad has no usb host functionality, so the only connection for external keyboards is insecure bluetoothOct 07 10:08
schestowitzThe thing is, he didn't know if that existsOct 07 10:09
schestowitzNeither did I, I could only speciulaeOct 07 10:09
schestowitzit has no universal/USB ports, I thinkOct 07 10:09
schestowitzOOct 07 10:09
schestowitzYou beat me to it re USBOct 07 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] DHS | 7th annual national Cybersecurity month: - ur1.ca/1zvew #don'tmentiontheproblemOSOct 07 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Last week my uncle told me he got #hypePad but needs ex keyboard; I told him my 2002 Palm PDA has that. Apple -- taking computing backwards.Oct 07 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @patcito If you miss IE6 http://mrdoob.com/lab/javascript/effects/ie6/Oct 07 10:10
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MinceRif it was more open, you could run X or VNC on it and use x2x or x2vnc respectively over WiFiOct 07 10:10
MinceRand thus use the keyboard of a computer to type into itOct 07 10:11
Diablo-D3hehOct 07 10:11
Diablo-D3I'm back to using synergy instead of x2xOct 07 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Facebook “Download Your Info” is NOT Data Portability - http://bit.ly/98wVLl discuss #facebook #portabilityOct 07 10:11
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MinceRi haven't used synergy much so farOct 07 10:11
Diablo-D3x2x has the ssh overheadOct 07 10:12
Diablo-D3x2vnc has the x11vnc overheadOct 07 10:12
schestowitzI use this keyboard when I travel, stillOct 07 10:12
schestowitzI wrote some of my thesis on my Palm this wayOct 07 10:12
Diablo-D3schestowitz: hehOct 07 10:12
MinceRssh isn't just overhead, it's also security :>Oct 07 10:12
schestowitzhypePad. Good for:Oct 07 10:12
schestowitz-playing Web games (no Flash)Oct 07 10:12
MinceR-keeping the wind from taking your papersOct 07 10:13
schestowitz-showing off to girls who like thin thingsOct 07 10:13
Diablo-D3MinceR: this is on my own lanOct 07 10:13
schestowitz-fill up a purseOct 07 10:13
Diablo-D3MinceR: I need the ssh for Xauth reasonsOct 07 10:13
MinceR-having a bigger surface to show off your allegiance to the cult of crAppleOct 07 10:13
schestowitz-do only shopping (consumerism)Oct 07 10:13
MinceRschestowitz: girls like thin things now?Oct 07 10:13
schestowitz-buy licence to temporarily read some text (aka 'ebook')Oct 07 10:13
MinceR-as a projectile (at least for a coilgun or a trebuchet)Oct 07 10:14
schestowitz-feel better and more valuable than your fellow menOct 07 10:14
schestowitz<MinceR> schestowitz: girls like thin things now?Oct 07 10:15
schestowitzCertain /type/ of girlsOct 07 10:15
Diablo-D3-as a penis replacementOct 07 10:15
schestowitzActually, maybe oppositeOct 07 10:15
schestowitzThe surface of the hypePad reduces warming of the crotch and impotenceOct 07 10:16
Diablo-D3http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101005114201136Oct 07 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Google Answers Oracle, Counterclaims, and Moves to Dismiss Copyright Infringement Claim .::. Size~: 209.99 KBOct 07 10:16
Diablo-D3they finally covered itOct 07 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] afrimesh, foaf+ssl, freedentity == #FTWOct 07 10:16
schestowitzI suggest putting a stack of hypePad and Macbook Airs in Ballmers officeOct 07 10:16
schestowitzHe can fling them around as anger managementOct 07 10:17
schestowitzInstead or ordering Horacio to sue companies and extort them for selling LinuxOct 07 10:17
MinceRi doubt he does the suing as anger managementOct 07 10:17
MinceRhe throws chairs insteadOct 07 10:17
Diablo-D3he godsOct 07 10:18
Diablo-D3schestowitz: dudeOct 07 10:18
MinceRchairs are cheaper than hypePads and MacBook HotAirsOct 07 10:18
Diablo-D3if he threw an AirOct 07 10:18
Diablo-D3he could decapitate someoneOct 07 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Facebook “Download Your Info” is NOT #Data #Portability - http://bit.ly/98wVLl /by @glynmoodyOct 07 10:18
MinceRDiablo-D3: someone at m$Oct 07 10:18
MinceRlet's give him AirsOct 07 10:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Web Is Social .::. Size~: 26.67 KBOct 07 10:18
MinceRif we're lucky, their management will run out of heads soonOct 07 10:18
Diablo-D3snakes can always grow a new oneOct 07 10:19
Diablo-D3dohohohoOct 07 10:19
MinceRthat's kind of demeaning to snakes, equating them to m$ managersOct 07 10:19
schestowitz<Diablo-D3> he could decapitate someoneOct 07 10:19
schestowitzThat's how he competes with Ninja Star BlowsOct 07 10:19
MinceRlolOct 07 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Telecom firms donations to minority groups criticised as FCC considers net neutrality rules ur1.ca/1zviwOct 07 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Media spin du jour: #Motorola and Microsoft BFF. Reality: #Microsoft is extorting many companies for selling Linux; #Motorola antagonisedOct 07 10:20
schestowitz<Diablo-D3> snakes can always grow a new oneOct 07 10:20
schestowitzJust tailsOct 07 10:20
schestowitzIt's not like cells dividingOct 07 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs looks really cool!Oct 07 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @jwildeboer: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs looks really cool! < Indeed it does!Oct 07 10:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 200 Ok .::. Size~: 0 KBOct 07 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality Are you Australian? #thereasoniaskthisistheaustraliansintheukivemetwereallsurprisedbythesizeoftheseagullshereOct 07 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Joint Microsoft/Novell Release of #Mono , Partly With #Microsoft Licences, Patents, and Even Copyrights http://ur1.ca/1zvrq #swpatsOct 07 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality If you have some of our stodgy British chips, watch out. #intercontinental #heavylift #featheredfiendsOct 07 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So !Android is unamerican? So let America use Apple and the rest of us will use Android (reading http://bit.ly/94wD3M)Oct 07 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Shah Makhdum typical of Disney's global operations http://ur1.ca/1zvy3Oct 07 11:05
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kadet_123helloOct 07 11:06
kadet_123http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/omg-exclusive-interview-with-gnome-co-founder-federico-mena/Oct 07 11:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OMG! Exclusive: Interview with GNOME co-founder Federico Mena .::. Size~: 57.97 KBOct 07 11:07
sebsebsebkadet_123: uh okOct 07 11:07
sebsebseband hiOct 07 11:07
sebsebsebkadet_123: I think I linked to that here last monthOct 07 11:07
kadet_123ok, good to know :)Oct 07 11:08
kadet_123I thought there's a lot of bull out there, so I decided to post a linkOct 07 11:08
sebsebsebkadet_123: well yes there is, but it tends to be on that site :DOct 07 11:08
sebsebseba lot of itOct 07 11:08
kadet_123everyone knows what ximian and Icaza areOct 07 11:08
sebsebsebcomments mainly, but also add on junk app blog entrysOct 07 11:08
kadet_123yes :)Oct 07 11:09
sebsebsebyour new here aren't you?Oct 07 11:09
kadet_123not exactlyOct 07 11:10
kadet_123I was visiting you sometimes under pawel_21 nick or similarOct 07 11:10
sebsebsebI don't remember that nickOct 07 11:10
kadet_123it was some time agoOct 07 11:10
kadet_123Roy probably remembers me :)Oct 07 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @silner: you still care what Dana writes? OMG! ;-P But this time he's right, USA AV is mainly #swpats, i.e., innovation tax.Oct 07 11:11
kadet_123btw. phoronix advertises new mono versionOct 07 11:12
sebsebsebkadet_123: so did OMG UbuntuOct 07 11:13
kadet_123as usualOct 07 11:14
sebsebsebkadet_123: for the 2.8 preview  they did last monthOct 07 11:14
sebsebseband yep so much junk on that siteOct 07 11:14
sebsebsebsometimes some pretty good blog enteries thoughOct 07 11:14
kadet_123mono just pollutes FLOSS ecosystemOct 07 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @silner: and by the way, also Apple stuff is imported (into the USA) AFAICT. It's only "designed" in California.Oct 07 11:16
kadet_123novells (or opensuse) meego uses banshee, so it uses monoOct 07 11:16
kadet_123I hoped meego will be pure qt and mono freeOct 07 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @ppapadeas: fedoraproject.org now translated by gruntus in #afrikaans #fedora #possesa |yeah! Community at work!Oct 07 11:20
kadet_123I have to be going, have a nice day :)Oct 07 11:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] via @evan “Status.Net Finds Twitter’s Missing Business Model « Wild Webmink” — http://webmink.com/2010/10/06/... #statusnetOct 07 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Information wants to be free. Sharing is good. Money is information. Share money with artists. Pay them.Oct 07 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More Indications That ‘Sales’ of #Vista7 Are Worse Than Sales of Vista http://ur1.ca/1zw43 #windows #hype #microsoftOct 07 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: via @evan “Status.Net Finds Twitter’s Missing Business Model « Wild Webmink” — http://webmink.com/2010/10/06/... #statusnetOct 07 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Porn BitTorrent Lawsuits Run into Serious Problem - Lawsuits Must be Filed Individually - http://bit.ly/9pNc4P so there (via @remixtures)Oct 07 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] «The result? Status.Net already has a corporate penetration that should be making Twitter’s management drool with envy» http://bit.ly/cwScO6Oct 07 11:25
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slyck News - Porn BitTorrent Lawsuits Run into Serious Problem - Lawsuits Must be Filed Individually .::. Size~: 12.16 KBOct 07 11:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ☞ Status.Net Finds Twitters Missing Business Model « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 42.45 KBOct 07 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Bruce Byfield on 'Ubuntu's real contribution to free software' http://ht.ly/19ksz1Oct 07 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/06/ly-domains-in-trouble-as-_n_752528.html The perils of link shorteners #netrightsOct 07 11:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Whistleblower site Cryptome hacked, defaced, all files deleted - Computerworld Blogs http://ping.fm/CNB7VOct 07 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] When you get use a .ly URL you are sending your link through Libyan airspace. Your choice? Try to avoid using #urlshortenersOct 07 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @timbl http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/06/ly-domains-in-trouble-as-_n_752528.html The perils of link shorteners #netrightsOct 07 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @timbl When you get use a .ly URL you are sending your link through Libyan airspace. Your choice? Try to avoid using #urlshortenersOct 07 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @carlopiana to be honest he has certain tone that irritates me :)Oct 07 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Are there any good links for Free Kindle distros? What's the state of the art? My search fu is failing me. :-/Oct 07 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Intro to jEdit: A Programmer's Text Editor | Linux.com http://ping.fm/TMF2pOct 07 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @silner "we are not alone" ;-)Oct 07 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sick [Windows?] PCs should be banned from the net says Microsoft [what about other OSes?] http://ping.fm/JJHxkOct 07 11:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Sick PCs should be banned from the net says Microsoft .::. Size~: 52.11 KBOct 07 11:46
gnufreexI think that can be used as excuse to ban GNU/Linux comptuers from internet.Oct 07 11:48
gnufreex"No antivirus sofware? You're banned!"Oct 07 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So why is it blasphemy to want to install something that's not on some online repository? [Interesting thoughts] http://ping.fm/ZjaYlOct 07 11:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: youhavethenerve comments on So why is it blasphemy to want to install something that's not on some online repository? .::. Size~: 43.27 KBOct 07 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I upgraded to #Maverick at the office...Oct 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I need a teaOct 07 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Blender Conference 2010 speaker line-up http://ping.fm/DjxwVOct 07 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Martin Owens: Copying Ideas is Not Theft http://ping.fm/RYEjJOct 07 11:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blender Conference 2010 speaker line-up | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 22.62 KBOct 07 11:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Freetuxtv - A WebTV player working on the !Linux platform http://ping.fm/yphHxOct 07 11:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Freetuxtv - A WebTV player working on the Linux platform | Ubuntu Geek .::. Size~: 37.64 KBOct 07 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Public !Ubuntu Font Family !PPA For Ubuntu 10.04 #Lucid Lynx And 9.10 #Karmic Koala http://goo.gl/fIIgOct 07 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Public Ubuntu Font Family PPA For Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx And 9.10 Karmic Koala ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 67.8 KBOct 07 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Online social networks seem to bring the worst out in some people. There are some keen "fight club" members out there filling their boots.Oct 07 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Back to the Future Again: 2020 FLOSS 3.0 - http://bit.ly/dtN19b in praise of the #commons #owf #freeswOct 07 12:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] For Church and State http://ur1.ca/1zwltOct 07 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Repression or Enlightenment? - http://bit.ly/a5d1Py "Just how powerful do you want corporations to get?" great video, too #mashupsOct 07 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Software is Abstract, by PolR http://ping.fm/s6tWVOct 07 12:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digital Productions: Repression or Enlightenment? .::. Size~: 26.42 KBOct 07 12:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Why Software is Abstract, by PolR .::. Size~: 62.41 KBOct 07 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ♻ @timbl When using a .ly URL […] Try to avoid #urlshorteners → obviously, you told us in ’96! http://w3.org/DesignIssues/Axioms.html#abuseOct 07 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ubuntu: we won't moan to EU about Microsoft - PC Pro http://ping.fm/7WuQpOct 07 12:10
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu: we won't moan to EU about Microsoft | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 40.7 KBOct 07 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Downgraded Yet Again, CEO Bonus Cut, Goldman Sachs Says Microsoft Should be Split http://ur1.ca/1zwu2Oct 07 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Downgraded Yet Again, CEO Bonus Cut, Goldman Sachs Says Microsoft Should be Split, and Companys CEO Acknowledges It May Vanish | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.61 KBOct 07 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RD @rahulsundaram who is suing whom in the telecoms trade http://ur1.ca/1zlrk software patents disasterOct 07 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @caostheory: Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop and Netbook Editions will also be available for download on 10/10/10. http://bit.ly/ca0vGz < #numerologyOct 07 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Whos Suing Whom In The Telecoms Trade? .::. Size~: 65.67 KBOct 07 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Latest Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop Edition Puts Focus on Consumers and Mobile | Canonical .::. Size~: 34.61 KBOct 07 12:28
gnufreexhttp://news.designlanguage.com/post/1252039209Oct 07 12:30
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gnufreexPatent system is working.Oct 07 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @caostheory: Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop and Netbook Editions will also be available for download on 10/10/10. http://bit.ly/ca0vGz < #numerologyOct 07 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Latest Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop Edition Puts Focus on Consumers and Mobile | Canonical .::. Size~: 34.61 KBOct 07 12:31
gnufreexhttp://www.osnews.com/story/23883/Motorola_Slaps_Apple_with_Patent_Suit_Completes_Circle_of_InsanityOct 07 12:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola Slaps Apple with Patent Suit, Completes Circle of Insanity .::. Size~: 26.29 KBOct 07 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Patent system at work http://news.designlanguage.com/post/1252039209Oct 07 12:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Design Language News .::. Size~: 72.02 KBOct 07 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Man, Sir Clive's kinda a mythical figure 4 us, kinda computer Ghandi. He's very appreciated here in Brazil ;-)Oct 07 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz rumours M$ should be splitted and sold... Yup, no different from Novel... ;-)Oct 07 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz M$ misses the mark with Open Source. Licenses and patents don't mix with free open source softwareOct 07 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Wow, #LXC looks even more screwed than usual todayOct 07 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] bought a new #Asus #mainboard several days ago, did a reboot after 2 full days of use and now doesn't #POST anymore, blank video, nothing!Oct 07 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Went to doctor regarding possible RSI. Ended up with a wrist support and some ibuprofen tablets. Hope this goes away for good!Oct 07 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Facism in France http://ur1.ca/1zxgrOct 07 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Found: The Future of Dive Bars | Magazine http://ur1.ca/1zxheOct 07 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @rms: Facism in France http://ur1.ca/1zxgrOct 07 13:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Found: The Future of Dive Bars | Magazine .::. Size~: 53.39 KBOct 07 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell the DOJ: Investigate the U.S. Chamber of Commerce's campaign spending immediately! http://bit.ly/aXycrhOct 07 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell the DOJ: Investigate the Chamber of Commerce's campaign spending .::. Size~: 14.82 KBOct 07 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Content management and the open source way with CEO of NIXTY, Part 2 http://bit.ly/c5dq9w #collaboration #community #openedOct 07 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 480+ !OpenSource Applications http://goo.gl/KMb6 [mashable surprisingly]Oct 07 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Content management and the open source way with CEO of NIXTY, Part 2 | opensource.com .::. Size~: 39.54 KBOct 07 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OPEN SOURCE GOD: 480+ Open Source Applications .::. Size~: 195.84 KBOct 07 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: I was just reading what G/Sachs had to say about MS being split up.Oct 07 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Films definitely seem to be the way to promote !Opensource - The way this Sintel movie has taken off is amazingOct 07 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Official Announcement by !Canonical: Latest !Ubuntu Version Puts Focus on Consumers and Mobile http://goo.gl/ADAlOct 07 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @hypatiadotca Standing up to harassment by blocking a train is a whole new level of being a badass: http://ping.fm/4wwi2Oct 07 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://ur1.ca/1zxpt - What if there was an open standard for open public transport data? Transport data roaming is the futureOct 07 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Latest Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop Edition Puts Focus on Consumers and Mobile | Canonical .::. Size~: 34.61 KBOct 07 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Woman on track halts train after Cardiff fans' abuse .::. Size~: 51.91 KBOct 07 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Transport data roaming «  Bon sans nom .::. Size~: 22.78 KBOct 07 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Twitter's search moves to !opensource Lucene platform http://goo.gl/qAOuOct 07 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Official Announcement by !Canonical: Latest !Ubuntu 10.10 Server Edition makes cloud deployment easier than ever http://goo.gl/FU72Oct 07 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter reveals new search architecture to handle billions of queries per day .::. Size~: 92.87 KBOct 07 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Latest Ubuntu 10.10 Server Edition makes cloud deployment easier than ever | Canonical .::. Size~: 34.82 KBOct 07 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Microsoft exec calls for infected PCs to be quarantined http://is.gd/fPy9C #securityishOct 07 13:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft exec calls for infected PCs to be quarantined | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 67.3 KBOct 07 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] I'm testing the pomodoro time management technique and surprisingly it works on me. #internalDistraction+1Oct 07 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ara Pulido on the importance of the first experience http://goo.gl/xjwDOct 07 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: On First Experiences « Lets test Ubuntu NOW! .::. Size~: 16.73 KBOct 07 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TechDirt: Mexican Senate Unanimously Votes To Remove Mexico From !ACTA Negotations http://ur1.ca/1zxtp #democracy #net_neutralityOct 07 13:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mexican Senate Unanimously Votes To Remove Mexico From ACTA Negotations | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.06 KBOct 07 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @rahsheen: New Post: Serious.ly Dangerous Situation for Bit.ly and Other .ly Domains http://ow.ly/19kxV3Oct 07 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "The President can ratify... !ACTA, but the Senate needs to approve it. And they are not very willing to." @OpenActa http://ur1.ca/1zxtpOct 07 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Serious.ly Dangerous Situation for Bit.ly and Other .ly Domains | SheenOnline .::. Size~: 21.49 KBOct 07 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mexican Senate Unanimously Votes To Remove Mexico From ACTA Negotations | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.06 KBOct 07 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Horses Mouth Department: the USTR's Consolidated Text public release of !ACTA PDF here: http://www.ustr.gov/webfm_send/2338Oct 07 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Reasonably good insights on LibreOffice and other FOSS forks of recent weeks - http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/70982.html #fbOct 07 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @mgeist RT @MarietjeD66: In a review session w/EU ACTA negotiating team. We are not supposed to talk about this meeting #transparencyOct 07 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Microsoft is digging their own grave, by not making MSIE9 available for Windows XP. The solution is simple: use Firefox 4 on Windows XP!Oct 07 13:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to LinuxInsider .::. Size~: 2.74 KBOct 07 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] euractiv.com: European "Lawmakers call for halt to !ACTA deal" http://ur1.ca/1z4jq ... !billc32 !copyright #net_neutralityOct 07 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ars Technica examines #Chrome and #Firefox bookmark sync protocols http://goo.gl/qc8S !chromiumOct 07 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @DaHammerstein EU ACTA briefing: Wi-Fi turned off to stop "le quadrature and wikileaks from getting messages from meeting" >>ha! #actaOct 07 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality You'll have to upload the video *after* you're rescued.Oct 07 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawmakers call for halt to ACTA deal  | EurActiv .::. Size~: 54.9 KBOct 07 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ars examines Chrome and Firefox bookmark sync protocols .::. Size~: 36.75 KBOct 07 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @glynmoody RT @mgeist RT @MarietjeD66: Review session w/EU !ACTA negotiating team- not supposed to talk about this meeting #transparencyOct 07 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] La Quadrature Du Net: Near-Final !ACTA Text is a Counterfeit of Democracy http://ur1.ca/1zlk5 !Bill C32 !copyright #democracyOct 07 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Near-Final ACTA Text is a Counterfeit of Democracy | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 25.39 KBOct 07 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @yamatt: I was wondering if the main reason identi.ca is on #xkcd's social network map was because of @fabsh. http://is.gd/fPs8rOct 07 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !ACTA Watch: ACTA Ultra-Lite: The U.S. Cave on the Internet Chapter Complete http://ur1.ca/1zxzj Should NOT b used as excuse for !billC32Oct 07 13:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: xkcd: Online Communities 2 .::. Size~: 8.38 KBOct 07 13:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA Ultra-Lite: The U.S. Cave on the Internet Chapter Complete | ACTA Info .::. Size~: 51.12 KBOct 07 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Jippie, mijn weekend is begonnen. Ga morgen t/m zondag logeren bij mijn broer Ger (GL1MST). Hij heeft een hysterische laptop gekocht en...Oct 07 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Things are getting strange: Microsoft releases an open source package manager for its .Net http://goo.gl/0CesOct 07 13:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                     Microsoft releases an open source package manager for its .net   - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 58.35 KBOct 07 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] French ISP Refuses to Send Out Hadopi File-Sharing Warnings - http://bit.ly/9JKAPb your move, #HADOPI #franceOct 07 13:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    French ISP Refuses to Send Out Hadopi File-Sharing Warnings | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 48.06 KBOct 07 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ars technica: !ACTA text shows US caved in on Internet provisions http://ur1.ca/1zy1p "failure to export its DMCA-style approach" !BillC32Oct 07 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help yourself to some private data... - http://bit.ly/aIZr4s you can't make this stuff up (via @caramboo) #privacy #securityOct 07 13:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA text shows US caved in on Internet provisions .::. Size~: 33.18 KBOct 07 13:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Help yourself to some private data... on Twitpic  .::. Size~: 9.1 KBOct 07 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA Anti-Piracy Treaty Not As Horrible as Feared - http://bit.ly/aMUR5x it's a trick: people accept it because it's not as bad as it was...Oct 07 14:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    ACTA Anti-Piracy Treaty Not As Horrible as Feared | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 64.63 KBOct 07 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] think.co.uk Mexico votes to dump !ACTA as it stands http://ur1.ca/1zy3w #democracy #net_neutrality !billc32Oct 07 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Ik heb hem nog niet geïntroduceerd in het Virtualisatie gebeuren. Zijn nieuwe laptop is een http://ur1.ca/1zy48 Dus dat wordt weer knutselenOct 07 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ZDNet: Is !Ubuntu 10.10 yet another chance to ditch Windows in the Education? http://goo.gl/azK7Oct 07 14:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mexico votes to dump ACTA as it stands | THINQ.co.uk .::. Size~: 32.02 KBOct 07 14:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony Vaio VPCF12S1E/B prijzen | Core | Tweakers.net Pricewatch .::. Size~: 61.91 KBOct 07 14:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Ubuntu 10.10 yet another chance to ditch Windows? | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 136.14 KBOct 07 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] How to Break Down the Barrier Between Your webOS Phone and Computer http://ur1.ca/1zy65Oct 07 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Pretending !ACTA a success: Canadian Intellectual Property Council applauds the conclusion of ACTA negotiations http://ur1.ca/1zy5a !BillC32Oct 07 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @carlzimmer You have a blog. Therefore, you must dress like a pimp. The logic is so airtight I can't get any oxygen! http://bit.ly/cHgtwwOct 07 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] It was about time I got !Coffee my eyes almost closed.Oct 07 14:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zhephree | How to Break Down the Barrier Between Your webOS Phone and Computer .::. Size~: 20.46 KBOct 07 14:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CANADIAN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY COUNCIL | Canadian Intellectual Property Council applauds the conclusion of ACTA negotiations .::. Size~: 16.39 KBOct 07 14:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Citizen journalists? Spreading like a cold - Leonard Pitts Jr. - MiamiHerald.com .::. Size~: 84.04 KBOct 07 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Abdicating responsibility a US trademark http://ur1.ca/1zy6rOct 07 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @shakthimaan Embedded programming with the GNU toolchain http://www.bravegnu.org/gnu-eprog/index.html !ARM101Oct 07 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Embedded Programming with the GNU Toolchain .::. Size~: 7.7 KBOct 07 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is there an Identi.ca phenomenon ala "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" - "six degrees of @fabsh"?Oct 07 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @DaHammerstein #ACTA EU Devigne: Without secrecy no trade agreement can be successful >>he's confusing trade agreements with war #actaOct 07 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a TAB complete function for nicks in identica would be cool, IRC styleOct 07 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. 16 packets of sugar? I think so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62JMfv0tf3Q #fbOct 07 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Man Eating Sugar. New York City Health Department.   .::. Size~: 87.45 KBOct 07 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: RT @DaHammerstein #ACTA EU Devigne: Without secrecy no trade agreement can be successful >>confusing trade agreements with warOct 07 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] WhyteWolf Technology: !ACTA Analysis: You Can't Craft A Reasonable Agreement When You Leave Out Stakeholders http://ur1.ca/1zyej !billc32Oct 07 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why doesn't the Globe and Mail know !ACTA has concluded? http://ur1.ca/1zyfc !CanadaOct 07 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] IMHO @lefty should team up with @fosspatents - that should be eternal friendship :-)Oct 07 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] It would be nice if #lsusb reported the iProduct if there were no product set in its database.Oct 07 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @timbl What's wrong with your link going through other countries' airspace?Oct 07 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @jwildeboer lol yes, they do like sharing their opinions :)Oct 07 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #Democracy requires Free Software !fs http://ur1.ca/1zyip (english shortend version of http://ur1.ca/1zyix !fsfeOct 07 14:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @DaHammerstein EU #ACTA: "EU has victory on GIs. Now Parma Ham from US will be seized upon reaching EU port. " >>does US accept this?Oct 07 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] preview of the new #fedora website - an agave tutorial! http://2tu.us/2qr1Oct 07 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin That is AWESOME!!! :DOct 07 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mairin: preview of the new #fedora website - an agave tutorial! http://2tu.us/2qr1Oct 07 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bpglobalpr/@bpglobalpr] BPGlobalPR: If you'd like to stay informed about the oil spill, please ignore those bastards at @healthygulf - http... http://ping.fm/pwZXFOct 07 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] before #firefox session restore, was never worried about losing state. But now, frustrating when it breaks. Grr, minefield forgot ~40 tabsOct 07 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mairin preview of the new #fedora website - an agave tutorial! http://2tu.us/2qr1Oct 07 14:45
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gnufreexMueller and his crap again. http://lwn.net/Articles/409013/Oct 07 14:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] @jwildeboer: Je hebt mijn vrije middag verpest, door de stinkende sok @lefty uit de vuile wasmand te vissen. Foei stout, in de mand!Oct 07 14:46
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puzzledhi. just bumped into this one. Might be interesting.  http://blogs.msdn.com/b/interoperability/archive/2010/09/13/bienvenue-benvenuto-welcome-to-microsoft-gianugo-rabellino-senior-director-open-source-communities.aspxOct 07 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana a bit and lied (follow the discussion thread he refers to, and see how I started looking into sparkelshare...).Oct 07 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer what, they're not bound by some sort of contract? :)Oct 07 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @ml2mst *shame* *hide* *Oct 07 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] #Android OS is only two years old...seems like it's older than that at the rapid pace it is incremented!Oct 07 14:48
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26645404870 ""There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about" Jack knows the rule"Oct 07 14:50
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26645594708 "But my view is that no one outranks the truth. That's the beauty of the internet. No one can hide behind a big desk."Oct 07 14:51
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Diablo-D3hey royOct 07 14:51
Diablo-D3redent my newest dent to !linuxOct 07 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera That would be good: Only Linux and MacOSX machines would surf the web. The web would be faster ;-)Oct 07 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] staging is not localhost. staging is not localhost. staging is not localhost. staging is not localhost.....Oct 07 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @bkuhn In my experience, @dobey is not oriented towards an honest discussion (as others like @lefty).Oct 07 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner Dana still gives a platform to #mobbyists , see the comments in the blogOct 07 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @bkuhn what is a non-commercial FLOSS developer? Is a Red Hat engineer a commercial FLOSS Dev? Why the difference?Oct 07 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook gives users a way to download their data (Computerworld) http://bit.ly/a4LuhD (me: Finally!)Oct 07 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Managing Director of Meego tablet makers (first to market) WebTab is sacked after nym-shifting 5 star Amazon reviews. http://is.gd/fPG1jOct 07 15:03
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schestowitzgnufreex: pingOct 07 15:04
gnufreexHereOct 07 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] data.uk.gov is not that active so it seems. http://ur1.ca/1zywt → My question on open transport data not answered for 4 days nowOct 07 15:05
schestowitzDana still feeds mobbyistsOct 07 15:05
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schestowitzAnd it's funny that FOSS people get sick of DanaOct 07 15:05
schestowitzHe edges himself into a corner of the fauxersOct 07 15:05
gnufreexschestowitz: Not just Dana. Network world dudes are chating with him in comments.Oct 07 15:05
schestowitzYesOct 07 15:05
schestowitzJuliaOct 07 15:05
schestowitzNot FOSS at allOct 07 15:05
schestowitzPseudoersOct 07 15:05
schestowitzIDG...Oct 07 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] data.gov.uk is not that active so it seems. http://ur1.ca/1zywt → My question on open transport data not answered for 4 days nowOct 07 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @jwildeboer, yes, #RedHat employees writing FLOSS are commercial developers & we already know that #RedHat is a #swpats lawsuit target.Oct 07 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] 16:00 ... been doing architecture work since 09:00 ... feeling a bit like running a mental marathon at this point ...Oct 07 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality You've missed the point of that argument.Oct 07 15:06
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schestowitzWho writes it? Black Duck (properietary), OpenLogic (proprietary), Microsoft partners, CodePlex...Oct 07 15:07
schestowitzIt's all stacked with fauxers, except ZonkerOct 07 15:07
gnufreexDid you see what he wrote on LWN?Oct 07 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @rachelbotsman Paris launches Autolib, a large-scale car-sharing program http://bit.ly/aAQX4d #CollCons #Sharing >>come on, London...Oct 07 15:08
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gnufreexResponse to Jan WildeboerOct 07 15:08
gnufreexschestowitz: here is again.Oct 07 15:09
gnufreexschestowitz: here is again. http://lwn.net/Articles/409013/Oct 07 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Top 10 System Administrator Truths http://is.gd/fPFcD #sysadmin (via @jeanaustinr)Oct 07 15:10
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gnufreexschestowitz: I think I was right when I said that Microosft got Red Hat to sign NDA just to FUD.Oct 07 15:10
gnufreexRed Hat will probaly never respond to this.Oct 07 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality Not really IMO. People do tend to concentrate on everything except the issue of FFFRRRREEEEEDDDDDOOOOMMMMM.Oct 07 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @timbl http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/06/ly-domains-in-trouble-as-_n_752528.html The perils of link shorteners #netrightsOct 07 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @timbl When you get use a .ly URL you are sending your link through Libyan airspace. Your choice? Try to avoid using #urlshortenersOct 07 15:13
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schestowitz<gnufreex> Did you see what he wrote on LWN?Oct 07 15:13
schestowitzNoOct 07 15:13
gnufreexI forced FM say that Google is not parasite http://twitter.com/FOSSpatentsOct 07 15:13
gnufreexThat way he can't just diss them if they decide to oppose software patents, like he dissed Red Hat. schestowitz, read whole discusion.Oct 07 15:13
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gnufreex[16:13:38] <schestowitz> NoOct 07 15:14
gnufreexI linked it latter on.Oct 07 15:14
oiaohmgnufreex: I have never seen RedHat sign a NDA with anyone.Oct 07 15:14
schestowitzYes, I'm looking nowOct 07 15:14
gnufreex[16:09:58] <gnufreex> schestowitz: here is again. http://lwn.net/Articles/409013/Oct 07 15:14
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oiaohmEven when big things are on the table.Oct 07 15:14
schestowitzBut I don't feed him in the platforms he exploits by disrupting themOct 07 15:14
schestowitzThat's directly feeding the trollOct 07 15:14
schestowitzI talk about it hereOct 07 15:15
gnufreexschestowitz: It was tactical move.Oct 07 15:15
oiaohmThere is no way I blieve for one instant Redhat paid.Oct 07 15:15
schestowitzwhat was? to whom?Oct 07 15:15
gnufreexI have a feeling that Google will do something against sofware patents.Oct 07 15:15
schestowitzAnd he tries to use my posts, against red hatOct 07 15:15
schestowitzEven very old postsOct 07 15:15
schestowitzbrbOct 07 15:16
gnufreexschestowitz: And I have feeling that FM will brand Google a parasite when Google says someting against sofware patents.Oct 07 15:16
oiaohmby the way I have seen nothing from redhat that the case is over.Oct 07 15:17
oiaohmOr court documents saying so.Oct 07 15:17
oiaohmThere is every chance that redhat might go forward anyhow.Oct 07 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner @carlopiana re "to be honest he has certain tone that irritates me :)" > it's only few fake/fauxFOSS blogs still quoting #mobbyistsOct 07 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ubuntu Linux 10.10 prepped for netbooks (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/bXToeHOct 07 15:18
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gnufreexoiaohm: It may be that Red Hat faced hundreds of milions in damages. So they let them off the hook under GPL-compatible terms, in exchange to stay quiet and thake the beating from mobbyists. Off couse, Red Hat maybe didn't suspect about mobbyists.Oct 07 15:19
gnufreexMicrosoft is after Red Hat's reputation.Oct 07 15:19
gnufreexNot the money.Oct 07 15:19
gnufreexThey want to make them look like novell.Oct 07 15:19
oiaohmReally redhat had found most of the prior art to destroy the patents.  gnufreexOct 07 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Games: Why Zynga's Success Makes Game Designers Gloomy | Magazine http://ur1.ca/1zz5aOct 07 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Look at this tripe: Sick PCs should be banned from the net says Microsoft !lo #outlawstory http://ur1.ca/1zz5l http://ur1.ca/1zz5mOct 07 15:23
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oiaohmAnd most of the patents in the case had already be canceled in patent office.Oct 07 15:23
oiaohmSo really its not redhat with there pants down and at risk if it goes forwards.  gnufreexOct 07 15:24
oiaohmHeck redhat could win in simple percentages that they had disproved over 50 percent of patents in the case so the other sides patents cannot be trusted as solid.Oct 07 15:25
oiaohmSo case dismissed.Oct 07 15:25
oiaohmWith no rights to bring the case again.  gnufreexOct 07 15:25
oiaohmSo settling out would have been best course of action even for nothing.Oct 07 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Obion County expands subscription-only fire service to more towns - http://bit.ly/cjDvDF can't save stuff just out of sense of humanityOct 07 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality But it is important. Important enough that people need to understand it well. We live in a society where software is everywhere...Oct 07 15:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @glynmoody, this situation gives a whole new & #disturbing ly classist tone to the net.phrase,"DIE IN A FIRE". I never did like that phrase…Oct 07 15:28
gnufreexoiaohm: Key thing is that Red Hat is not giving specificts. Why wouldn't they? Only NDA comes to my mind. I know that Red Hat would never go with GPL incompatible settlement, so I think they got GPL-compatie. Thing is, they probably thought they are not at pants down. Who would thougt that mobbyist would spin it as new Novell.Oct 07 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Starts Monday, 11 October: Introduction to SVG Course http://ow.ly/19kFNXOct 07 15:31
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gnufreexMaybe accacia wanted to pay up for all trouble they caused, in exchange for keeping quiet and not invalidating the patent. Only certain thing is that RHT is not talking and that mobbyists are exploiting it. oiaohmOct 07 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Mooching through !lastfm and find that practically everybody from !identica and !crunchbang is there as well!Oct 07 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Apparently the We Tab comes with advertising widgets that can't be removed, if true they can forget about my custom. #meegoOct 07 15:35
oiaohmProblem here is why is redhat not talking.Oct 07 15:37
oiaohmWhat happens if redhat has not settled out.  gnufreexOct 07 15:37
gnufreexYou think, if sites are lying about settlement?Oct 07 15:38
gnufreexThat is possible.Oct 07 15:38
oiaohmAlso no paper work saying the court case is canseled can I find.  gnufreexOct 07 15:38
oiaohmIe that should be on public record somewhere if it truely settled.  gnufreexOct 07 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I guess TimBerners.ly is out of the question thenOct 07 15:40
oiaohmUntil we can see that the case is canned in the public record we have to think it still on gnufreexOct 07 15:40
gnufreexYes, that is possible, only some quirky sites have reported. Nothing linked. No sources. Maybe Microsoft is the source. oiaohmOct 07 15:41
oiaohmOnly source is Acacia is a share market filing.   gnufreexOct 07 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Answering the question of how businesses can profit from Foursquare (NYT): http://nyti.ms/a9GgosOct 07 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @reality LOL. normally I would have 2 monitors, but wanted to try something more stylish. looks nice ;-)Oct 07 15:45
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gnufreexSo possabilities: A) Case still going, Acacia is lying to set off the mobbyists. b) case settled, Red Hat thought that being GPL-compatible is more important than flashing the news, so they signed NDA in exchange for more favourable terms (for both them and community). But Red Hat never suspected that mobbyists will paint them like they are friken Novell.Oct 07 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @gbraad Really? I have a Samsung 22" full HD and feels tiny, want a 30", perhaps 2 ;-)Oct 07 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Ah, installed xspect and fbzx. Found fbzx a little better than xspect. Do u know it ? Has a nice graphical front end.Oct 07 15:48
oiaohmWhat is strange is there is no Redhat mirror announcement.Oct 07 15:49
oiaohmEven an agreement sealed by NDA.  gnufreexOct 07 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @carlopiana as standard monitors!? :-oOct 07 15:50
oiaohmAlso acacia did not say the agreement was sealed by NDA.Oct 07 15:50
gnufreexDon't beleive what acacia says. They are Microsoft drone.Oct 07 15:50
oiaohmWhat got me is that when acacia normally wins they brag about income.Oct 07 15:51
oiaohmto boost share price.Oct 07 15:51
oiaohmThat has not happened either.Oct 07 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality The way we do that is to educate people and deliver teh frees. We shouldn't bore people, but beware paternalism.Oct 07 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Gwibber needs a "block this poster" option #plonkOct 07 15:51
oiaohmEverything to me suggest a zero exchange settlement if there was a settlement.Oct 07 15:52
gnufreexAfter talking few ex and present Microosfties, I got to conclusion that those people are religious folowers and they don't know other company than Microosft. That is their good. Wherever they go, they will still be working for Microsoft.Oct 07 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @reality lolOct 07 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @gbraad of course! I have 8 virtual desktops, but flipping through them is #disturbing ;-)Oct 07 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I will not look at the Buzz Ricksons site, I will not look at the Buzz Ricksons site, I will not look at the Buzz Ricksons site...Oct 07 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @ruiseabra @reality seems things haven't changed a lot on #identica during my absence ;-)Oct 07 15:55
gnufreexThere are two types of ex-Microsofties: One will stay faithful to the company and work for Microsoft cause when they move to another company. Other group will be profesional and work for new company (not for Microsoft) but they will shape new company affter propriatary principles they have been thought at microsoft. So *any* company that contain ex-Microsofties in management, will be hostile to free software. They are like aOct 07 15:56
gnufreex plague.Oct 07 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Roman helmet sold for £2m - http://bit.ly/dA5dRQ depressing missed opportunity: if only they'd amended the law...Oct 07 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality You're saying I'm missing the point? ;-)Oct 07 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @carlopiana your answer is quite disturbing ;-). I guess you need 3 screens in a 120 or 180 degrees FOV for total immersion!Oct 07 15:56
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oiaohmThere have been some rare acceptions.   Some ex-Microsofties are completely sick of the ideas of MS.Oct 07 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] ok, too bad... my 'holiday' is over... :-s.Oct 07 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality That goal is here. We can have entirely free systems. But saying that will make me an "extremist" to far too many people.Oct 07 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality We all need someone to stand next to who makes us look moderate. ;-)Oct 07 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @gbraad mhhh... Now that you mention it ;-)Oct 07 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality I feel set up. ;-) (And I'm sorry for ranting.)Oct 07 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @DaHammerstein EU ACTA briefing: Wi-Fi turned off to stop "le quadrature and wikileaks from getting messages from meeting"Oct 07 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Lying out of self-interest http://ur1.ca/1zzjjOct 07 16:08
gnufreex[16:58:56] <oiaohm> There have been some rare acceptions.   Some ex-Microsofties are completely sick of the ideas of MS.Oct 07 16:08
gnufreexThere have been guys that worked for Microsoft for 6 months and quit due to having to much common sense to accept their crap.Oct 07 16:08
gnufreexoiaohm: One example, creator of CoyotOS and BitC. Shapiro. He have been hired away from CoyotOS when Hurd guys wanted to port Hurd servers to CoyotOS.Oct 07 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] while working on !InconstantMoon !edit !listening to @Allison_Crowe "Skeletons and Spirits" - great !cc music found on !jamendoOct 07 16:10
gnufreexHe worked there for some 8 months, and quit. Later he said he would have gone crazy if he worked for one more month.Oct 07 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality But even people who aren't car mechanics can benefit from understanding cars effects on society/economy/environment/etc.Oct 07 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] An inconvenient truth: game prices have come down with time http://ur1.ca/1zzkoOct 07 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Subway. For 4-5 seconds I've lost sense of where I was in space, where north/south. Now I know how women feel when can't orient! Wicked!Oct 07 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I note the places !BT want to roll out super fast speeds (coincidentally) are the places already well served by rivals http://bit.ly/9b220iOct 07 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be nice if !BT's PR spin was actually about getting more people connected, hitting areas the others haven't but somehow not surprisedOct 07 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SF author: I am a spaceman - http://bit.ly/ak19Dz @antipopeRSS "It's my big gay near-future Scottish police procedural" #sfOct 07 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Picking up @th3k4ty and heading to Ikea.....Oct 07 16:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @DaHammerstein #ACTA EU Devigne: Without secrecy no trade agreement can be successfulOct 07 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality Sure, but those that are need the info.Oct 07 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mairin preview of the new #fedora website - an agave tutorial! http://2tu.us/2qr1 > very niceOct 07 16:25
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schestowitz[14:51] <Diablo-D3> redent my newest dent to !linuxOct 07 16:26
schestowitzWhere?Oct 07 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is Microsoft running out of steam? - http://bit.ly/aDrxKN just ask James Watt #innovation #swpats #motorolaOct 07 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] >>bopping in my swivel chair - These guys are soooo good: !Listening to Aló Django's "After You've Gone" ... !cc music found on !jamendoOct 07 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] The universe. What's that all about then?Oct 07 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] funny how my #kittens want me to provide them a quiet lap, but they don't consider what I want when they're sproinging off my head at 3amOct 07 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Linux Program To Overclock Your AMD CPUs: Besides Linux drivers for gaming peripherals (like mice and other thin... http://bit.ly/cdlm2kOct 07 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] openSUSE 11.4 M2 Brings New Kernel & More: After releasing Smeegol Linux yesterday, the openSUSE developers are ou... http://bit.ly/94nGNtOct 07 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stuxnet - http://bit.ly/cB0FAv Unlce Brucie offers in-depth, excellent coverage (of course). Mentions the "W"-word in 3rd par... #stuxnetOct 07 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Schneier on Stuxnet http://lwn.net/Articles/409052/rssOct 07 16:36
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schestowitz<gnufreex>Who would thougt that mobbyist would spin it as new Novell.Oct 07 16:37
schestowitzYou're right, that sums it up in some waysOct 07 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Worsening cold is going to have me out of commission for most of the day :/.Oct 07 16:40
gnufreexoiaohm: Are you sure that NDA settlements get publicly available? What is the point of NDA then?Oct 07 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst what poster harassed you?Oct 07 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @bkuhn never heard it (US specific, perhaps?): what does it mean?Oct 07 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm: That is cats for you. I changed, what I used to dislike about them ( stroppy and independent) I quite like now.Oct 07 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just unlocked the Overshare Badge on #Foursquare. :DOct 07 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Ultimate Map of Internet Hangouts (XKCD/Gawker): http://bit.ly/aTK8ZBOct 07 16:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Outercurve takes on NuPack, an open source package manager for .NET (H): http://bit.ly/9QHJKKOct 07 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] I'm curious what VMMa, VRT and SBS Belgium are thinking about #googleTV. http://ur1.ca/1zzyn - It's something that I'm going to buy!Oct 07 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] I'm going to Herman Van Rompuy in Blandijn this evening. Anyone who is going as well?Oct 07 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] .Ly Domains At Risk As Libyan Government Shuts Down Site Without Warning (HuffPo): http://huff.to/9OrefEOct 07 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Is Microsoft running out of steam? Patents & innovation. (H) http://bit.ly/c3oHPwOct 07 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] every network cable in house checks out (testers++) telephone apparently fine, still stuck with ’net that’s as turbulent as the sea #rubbishOct 07 16:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Facebook creates an official way do download your data! Is anything left out? www.reddit.com/tb/do3zz !gnusocial !diaspora !gnu !fsf !lpOct 07 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Flaw in #libc implementation threatens FTP servers #security http://ping.fm/uksvgOct 07 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT Anyone else hearing rumors of Microsoft planning to join #LibreOffice and the Document Foundation? @rcweirOct 07 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open thread: Facebook changes proving open is better | http://bit.ly/93qVxF #privacy #opendata #TheSocialNetworkOct 07 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Dubious charges against Syrian teenager http://ur1.ca/20034Oct 07 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @sjsf A man called #JustinBieber got kicked out of #Facebook and other networks for sharing the name with the teen idol. CNN: http:// ...Oct 07 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] via @sjsf A man called #JustinBieber got kicked out of #Facebook and other networks for sharing the name with the teen http://htxt.it/V6sIOct 07 17:18
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sebsebsebIf it works with Ubuntu will probably work nicely with loads of the other distros as well :) http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/check-ubuntu-compatibility-netbook-laptop/Oct 07 17:19
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sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/check-ubuntu-compatibility-netbook-laptop/Oct 07 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Schools should make it obligatory to take classes in critical thinking/scepticism, but it'll never happen. They train then to obey.Oct 07 17:21
Tekk_if I get the money my next laptop is definitely going to be debian compatible, a lemote yeloong :POct 07 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Another reason why #socialnetworks should be based on #username instead of #realnameOct 07 17:23
sebsebsebTekk_: What do you mean a lemote yeloong?Oct 07 17:23
Tekk_sebsebseb: it's a netbook, 100% free software compatible, including the BIOSOct 07 17:24
Tekk_which is just a modified bootloaderOct 07 17:24
sebsebsebohOct 07 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] attending my first AGM in a couple of hours, no idea what to expectOct 07 17:26
Tekk_ironically it's chineseOct 07 17:27
schestowitzYes, and..Oct 07 17:27
schestowitzFree ;-)Oct 07 17:27
schestowitzThey suppress freedom in different waysOct 07 17:28
schestowitzThey have not invaded IraqOct 07 17:28
schestowitzBut they did go to Africa for minerals, centuries after the WestOct 07 17:28
schestowitzThey censor the Web and the West does too, increasinglyOct 07 17:29
Tekk_I thought that was to bring freedom and proseperity to everyone and catch the bad people who did 9/22Oct 07 17:29
schestowitzSurveillance tooOct 07 17:29
Tekk_</sarcasm>Oct 07 17:29
schestowitzThey killed dissidentsOct 07 17:29
schestowitzRare occasion in the WestOct 07 17:29
schestowitzThe West loves kill-tourismOct 07 17:29
Tekk_schestowitz: yeah, tor is going to be the norm soon, if things go badOct 07 17:29
schestowitzTravelling to countries with people who look different and killing them en masse from 40,00ft above groundOct 07 17:29
sebsebsebhttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9189727/Microsoft_s_coming_heart_attack_moment_Oct 07 17:29
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schestowitz<Tekk_> I thought that was to bring freedom and proseperity to everyone and catch the bad people who did 9/22Oct 07 17:30
schestowitzNo, that's PROct 07 17:30
schestowitzIt goes like 70 years backOct 07 17:30
schestowitzThe "spread democracy" thing is oldOct 07 17:30
schestowitzEdward BernaysOct 07 17:30
schestowitzTekk_: watch http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/10/04/the-century-of-the-self/Oct 07 17:31
Tekk_schestowitz: which is why I had the </sarcasm> after ;)Oct 07 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » One of My Favourite Documentaries: BBC Dissecting the True Evils of PR .::. Size~: 32.07 KBOct 07 17:31
schestowitzEven the Nazis pretended the wars were to protect themselvesOct 07 17:31
Tekk_oh god it does look out of the early 90sOct 07 17:31
Tekk_:POct 07 17:31
schestowitzBe it from the Bolsheviks or some other imaginary enemyOct 07 17:31
schestowitzPeople need to learn based on history that the same methods are still used by those in power to gain more powerOct 07 17:32
schestowitzExternal enemies unite the local population and distracts from class warsOct 07 17:32
schestowitzIraq war is not oldOct 07 17:32
Tekk_it's been around foreverOct 07 17:32
schestowitzSo now the US is too focus on domestic issuesOct 07 17:32
schestowitzSo Obama may need a war soonOct 07 17:32
Tekk_we have afghanistan all set and readyOct 07 17:33
schestowitz"Never mind if you have no house, we need to protect our poor cute children from those vicious <enter enemy here>"Oct 07 17:33
Tekk_all we need is some little 'intelligence' that <terrorist cell/person> is hereOct 07 17:33
schestowitzThe US is in turmoilOct 07 17:34
schestowitzMore so than the UKOct 07 17:34
schestowitz"Angry American" tereotypeOct 07 17:34
schestowitz"I'm not gonna take this anymore!!"Oct 07 17:34
schestowitzSo they use surveillance to weak local movements like unionsOct 07 17:35
schestowitzWe need free(dom) tools to fight the class warsOct 07 17:35
schestowitzdyfet makes GNU telephonyOct 07 17:35
schestowitzBlackberry is meanwhile giving backdoors to foreign govts and Skype does tooOct 07 17:35
Tekk_which is why I kicked that habitOct 07 17:36
schestowitzWhich  one?Oct 07 17:36
schestowitzCell phones?Oct 07 17:36
Tekk_skype, no point in me having a cell phoneOct 07 17:36
Tekk_I have no friends and I wouldn't get reception anyway :POct 07 17:36
Tekk_maybe if I get an openmokoOct 07 17:36
sebsebsebhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/security/2010100701035NWMSOct 07 17:37
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schestowitzsebsebseb: thanksOct 07 17:38
schestowitzI was just about to do an article about itOct 07 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] EBay deploys Joomla for analytics portal (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/bkZ4nGOct 07 17:38
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schestowitzTekk_: cellphones are locators+recording people's thoughtsOct 07 17:38
schestowitzAnd for personal things tooOct 07 17:38
schestowitzIRC you at least know is publicOct 07 17:38
schestowitzbrb showerOct 07 17:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: Here's a little quote from the linked to BBC articleOct 07 17:39
sebsebseb"Networks can consist of a few hundred to a few thousand Windows machines. However, some can contain millions of PCs."Oct 07 17:39
sebsebsebSo in the first part they say the truth,  Windows machines.Oct 07 17:39
sebsebsebof that paragraph, but then in second part, do the PC thing hmm.Oct 07 17:40
Tekk_may have something to do with the misconception that PC = WindowsOct 07 17:40
sebsebsebTekk_: exactlyOct 07 17:40
sebsebsebthats my pointOct 07 17:40
sebsebsebTekk_: spreading the ignorance againOct 07 17:42
sebsebsebno PC does not =  Windows and  Mac is really a PCOct 07 17:42
Tekk_yeahOct 07 17:42
Tekk_even if you go by IBM PC Compatible(x86) macs are pcsOct 07 17:43
Tekk_I'm not quite sure whether apple or ms came up with that and pushed it agressivelOct 07 17:44
Tekk_yOct 07 17:44
sebsebsebhmm it mentions how cutting  peopel off net may be bad, because people are contacting the emergancy services, uh who does that through the Internet?Oct 07 17:44
Tekk_sebsebseb: were it available I wouldOct 07 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. This Ikea is definitely still running XP..... No RHEL in sight...Oct 07 17:45
Diablo-D3[11:26:12] <schestowitz> Where?Oct 07 17:49
Diablo-D3http://identi.ca/notice/54655568Oct 07 17:49
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Diablo-D3that oneOct 07 17:49
schestowitz<Tekk_> I'm not quite sure whether apple or ms came up with that and pushed it agressivelOct 07 17:52
schestowitzI think it's a faux distinction Apple came up withOct 07 17:52
sebsebsebGood comments on that Linux Today linkOct 07 17:52
schestowitzThey can't sell for x3 the price something with the same nameOct 07 17:52
Tekk_schestowitz: well it certainly works to microsoft's favor tooOct 07 17:52
Tekk_I applaud their pr people for pulling that offOct 07 17:52
schestowitzYesOct 07 17:53
schestowitzDiablo-D3: it's a pointless effort, it's not  a censusOct 07 17:53
schestowitzAnd anyway, what's the point?Oct 07 17:53
schestowitzThey only puh th 1% lineOct 07 17:53
schestowitzI just never quote that lineOct 07 17:54
Diablo-D3schestowitz: just do itOct 07 17:54
schestowitz"Men think about sex every 6 seconds"Oct 07 17:54
Diablo-D3itmight turn out wellOct 07 17:54
schestowitzIt won'tOct 07 17:54
schestowitzFew Linux users read Linux newsOct 07 17:54
schestowitzAnyway, I have about 9 posts to make nowOct 07 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @rcweir: MSFT is not joining us and I think I'd be one of the first to know it :-) #docufoundation #libreoffice #openofficeOct 07 17:55
schestowitzI messed up sleeping on my desk todayOct 07 17:55
schestowitzSleeping 3-4 hours per night for a week can't make one's awakeness too predictableOct 07 17:55
schestowitz:-)Oct 07 17:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: Why are you doing that?Oct 07 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] RT @liotier @timbl URL shorteners are not just a rights problem - but an infrastructure problem too : http://j.mp/alCGjoOct 07 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @dpic: Facebook creates an official way do download your data! Is anything left out? www.reddit.com/tb/do3zzOct 07 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Will Web-scale servers find a role in the enterprise? (Network World): http://bit.ly/dhONVPOct 07 17:56
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Diablo-D3schestowitz: just link to it or somethingOct 07 17:57
Diablo-D3schestowitz: worse case is its wasted effortOct 07 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/10/2010: Software Freedom Law Show Ends, #Canonical Won’t Complain to EU About #Microsoft Bundling http://ur1.ca/200ixOct 07 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @charlesschulz Microsoft only joins such things when it can subject/gag like it did in LinuxTag... or what they do to @rcweir in #ODF TCOct 07 17:58
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: OKOct 07 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @charlesschulz the sociopath is commercially inclined & required to only do what's good for shareholders (PR too). LibreOffice breaks lockinOct 07 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Help prove there are more than 1% !Linux users in the world! http://ur1.ca/1zaaf !debian !javaOct 07 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @schestowitz : Wait; It's Florian Mueller propagating the rumour!Oct 07 18:01
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sebsebsebschestowitz: So I assuem you know about that guy who did encryption, and police wanted access to the computer, but he rusedOct 07 18:08
sebsebsebDo you think they should have access if they choose so?Oct 07 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Intelligence gathering or fear-mongering? http://ur1.ca/200nwOct 07 18:10
schestowitzthey is due processOct 07 18:10
schestowitzIn the USOct 07 18:10
schestowitzThey need to have some warrantOct 07 18:10
schestowitzThey can't just access any computer as they wishOct 07 18:10
Diablo-D3_huh_Oct 07 18:11
schestowitzOtherwise we have Stasi societyOct 07 18:11
schestowitzoops. typoOct 07 18:11
Diablo-D3well this is interestingOct 07 18:11
Diablo-D3the new apple tv is $100Oct 07 18:11
Diablo-D3I wonder if someone can hack it to put google tv on itOct 07 18:11
schestowitzCause it's crapOct 07 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @charlesschulz which rumour did the #mobbyist propagate?Oct 07 18:11
Diablo-D3its crap because of the software, not the hardwareOct 07 18:11
Diablo-D3its an iphone 4/ipad build inside the new apple tvOct 07 18:12
Diablo-D3so its got the hardware to do the jobOct 07 18:12
Diablo-D3it just doesnt have the software.Oct 07 18:12
MinceRand it doesn't have a battery so it won't explode, only melt and produce toxic fumes?Oct 07 18:13
Diablo-D3heeeOct 07 18:13
Diablo-D3seriously thoughOct 07 18:13
Tekk_YESOct 07 18:13
Diablo-D3if someone could throw google tv on thatOct 07 18:13
Diablo-D3I miiiiiight buy one over logitech's boxOct 07 18:13
MinceRwhat's on logitech's box?Oct 07 18:13
*MinceR would probably build his own living room pc insteadOct 07 18:13
Diablo-D3logitech's box has google tv, an hdmi passthrough (so you plug your cable box into it, and google tv overlays on it)Oct 07 18:14
Diablo-D3aaand it also has logitech's remote techOct 07 18:14
*Diablo-D3 has a logitech harmonyOct 07 18:14
Diablo-D3its wonderfulOct 07 18:14
Diablo-D3http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/revueOct 07 18:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Logitech Revue With Google TV .::. Size~: 86.56 KBOct 07 18:14
Diablo-D3they have a microkeyboard tooOct 07 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/409077/rssOct 07 18:15
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Diablo-D3they also have an android appOct 07 18:15
Diablo-D3so if you have an android device, its a remote tooOct 07 18:15
MinceRdo they also have a webapp?Oct 07 18:16
Diablo-D3for what?Oct 07 18:16
MinceR(so that if you have any device with a browser, it's a remote too :> )Oct 07 18:16
Diablo-D3well wouldnt that be hilariousOct 07 18:16
Diablo-D3it has a browserOct 07 18:16
sebsebsebhttp://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2010/10/freetuxtv-lets-you-watch-and-record.htmlOct 07 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @DaHammerstein: ACTA EU Devigne: "ACTA text finalized but not stabilized..first IP enforcement framework agt since TRIPS"Oct 07 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] via @windley@twitter.com Look at my sexy wrists. The .ly domain name issue laid bare, so to speak. http://j.mp/agZLlsOct 07 18:16
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MinceRcontrol the browser through another browser? :>Oct 07 18:16
Diablo-D3YO DAWG I HEARD YOU LIKE REMOTES, SO YOU CAN REMOTE WHILE YOU REMOTE!Oct 07 18:17
MinceRor control itself from its own browser?Oct 07 18:17
Diablo-D3or whateverOct 07 18:17
MinceRlolOct 07 18:17
Diablo-D3I missed a part in there somewhereOct 07 18:17
Diablo-D3seriously thoughOct 07 18:17
MinceRyes, you missed the "we put an x in your y"Oct 07 18:17
Diablo-D3I just had a hilarious ideaOct 07 18:17
Tekk_how exactly do they validate that.....Oct 07 18:17
Diablo-D3its an hdmi inputOct 07 18:17
Diablo-D3I can plug ANYTHING into itOct 07 18:17
Diablo-D3_anything_Oct 07 18:17
Diablo-D3including a pc.Oct 07 18:17
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*MinceR had a virtual gametable idea involving a projector, a pc and mobile devices with various control interfaces, including a webappOct 07 18:18
Diablo-D3fuck, I might get one up hereOct 07 18:18
Diablo-D3plug my pc into itOct 07 18:18
Diablo-D3and then wire the optical audio out back to my sound cardOct 07 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Working behind the scenes to orchestrate "independent" praise.." -Microsoft http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdfOct 07 18:18
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Diablo-D3god that'd be some fucking nutty shitOct 07 18:18
Diablo-D3I'd have a dedicated netflix/hulu plus/whatever boxOct 07 18:21
Diablo-D3that I dont have to switch displays forOct 07 18:21
Tekk_I wish qemu had more support for distrosOct 07 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @schestowitz : that MSFT would join the Document Foundation #mobbyistOct 07 18:21
Tekk_my network is em0......Oct 07 18:22
Diablo-D3what.Oct 07 18:22
Tekk_I need to take a screenshot of this XDOct 07 18:22
Diablo-D3bsd/solaris?Oct 07 18:22
Tekk_Diablo-D3: if you open the openbsd installer in qemu it'll say your network interface is em0Oct 07 18:23
Diablo-D3niceOct 07 18:23
MinceRif your network is em0, does it cut itself? :>Oct 07 18:24
Diablo-D3I wish my cheese was emo.Oct 07 18:24
Tekk_XDOct 07 18:24
MinceRbut not your grass?Oct 07 18:25
Tekk_so many things would be more useful if they were emoOct 07 18:25
Diablo-D3MinceR: or my hairOct 07 18:26
MinceR:>Oct 07 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith Don't think Ive tried Fbzx....I'll try to take a look, cheers!Oct 07 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz yep..I have now! Finished work so Im off fri, sat & sun! :)Oct 07 18:26
Tekk_bsd takes a while to partition.....Oct 07 18:27
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Tekk_hi _goblinOct 07 18:29
sebsebsebhi _goblinOct 07 18:29
gnufreexVOTE HIM DOWN !!!!! http://www.osnews.com/thread?444338Oct 07 18:30
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gnufreexVOTE HIM DOWN !!!!! http://www.osnews.com/thread?444338Oct 07 18:30
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gnufreexVOTE HIM DOWN !!!!! http://www.osnews.com/thread?444338Oct 07 18:30
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_goblinhi all....Oct 07 18:31
gnufreexVOTE HIM DOWN !!!!! http://www.osnews.com/thread?444338Oct 07 18:31
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Tekk_don't dent thatOct 07 18:31
schestowitzHe trolls that site too?Oct 07 18:31
schestowitzPoor mobbyistOct 07 18:31
schestowitzNobody reads his linux-powered blogsOct 07 18:31
gnufreexAnd yeah, vote Joe Buck upOct 07 18:31
schestowitzSo he goes harassing them elsewhereOct 07 18:31
schestowitzAnd journalists ignore him tooOct 07 18:31
gnufreexJoe Buck is GCC developer, so he must be nice guy.Oct 07 18:32
Tekk_brilliant logicOct 07 18:32
gnufreexThanks Tekk_ :-)Oct 07 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #mobbyists get no attention in their Linux-powered blogs and journalists learn to ignore them, so now they troll OSNews tooOct 07 18:33
Tekk_but to thatOct 07 18:33
Tekk_I don't see rms freaking out that gcc is recognized as an essential part of the 'linux' system,aside from just saying linuxOct 07 18:34
Tekk_anyone know if you can buy matte layovers for screens?Oct 07 18:35
Tekk_this shiny and reflective screen is pretty but every fingerprint and particle of dust shows T.TOct 07 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Why do you hate me so much," the scorpion asked the tortoise. #mobbyists http://ur1.ca/200xjOct 07 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Can U affirm this assertion for good ? No danger of entryism in Libreoffice ?Oct 07 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Busy readying last year's !NaNoWriMo novel "InconstantMoon" for publishing so I can start preparing for my 2010 NaNoWriMo effortOct 07 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I start to think I need to replace #pdnsd !gentooOct 07 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] M$, in the spirit of love for Open Source, should name its mobile OS "MeToo" :-DOct 07 18:40
gnufreexwhy nobody voted him down? Where is oiaohm? he has OSNews account.Oct 07 18:40
*MinceR has no osnews accountOct 07 18:41
*Diablo-D3 has no osnews account, and also thinks osnews sucksOct 07 18:42
*Tekk_ has no osnews account, and has barely visited it everOct 07 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito @mtjm @geekybodhi I didn't know some schools taught critical thinking as a standalone thing. Lateral thinking we did in college.Oct 07 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I wonder how to explain some people they're being mostly ignored without mostly breaking the "ignore" part.Oct 07 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith Can U affirm this assertion for good ? No danger of entryism in #Libreoffice ? > doing a post about entryism ATMOct 07 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Patent Failure http://bit.ly/ay6yv4Oct 07 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Flaw in libc implementation threatens FTP servers (The H) http://lwn.net/Articles/409085/rssOct 07 18:50
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Tekk_okay, okay, place your bets ladies and gentleman, how long until the fix is committed to the main release?Oct 07 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] different doesn't mean wrong.Oct 07 18:53
gnufreexhttp://www.h-online.coHe should get lower. m/security/news/item/Flaw-in-libc-implementation-threatens-FTP-servers-1103319.htmlOct 07 18:53
gnufreexThis seems to be a bug in posixOct 07 18:53
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gnufreexhttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Flaw-in-libc-implementation-threatens-FTP-servers-1103319.htmlOct 07 18:53
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gnufreexSays "OpenBSD 4.7, NetBSD 5.0.2, FreeBSD 7.3 / 8.1, Oracle Sun Solaris 10 and GNU Libc (glibc) are affected."Oct 07 18:54
gnufreexThose are separate code bases.Oct 07 18:54
Tekk_oh wow, they hit everybodyOct 07 18:54
Tekk_how is that possible?Oct 07 18:54
gnufreexbug in POSIXOct 07 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Android makes the cover of Newsweek http://ur1.ca/20125Oct 07 18:55
Tekk_hmm, would that mean haiku is also affected?Oct 07 18:55
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Tekk_I know it strives to be more posix compatible, but I don't know how compatible it isOct 07 18:55
gnufreexThey all implement POSIX, but posix is not compelely specific about everything.Oct 07 18:55
Tekk_heyOct 07 18:55
Tekk_openBSD is going to have to change it's mottoOct 07 18:55
MinceRlolOct 07 18:56
gnufreexI would like to hear if HP UX and AIX are affected.Oct 07 18:56
Tekk_AIX still exists?Oct 07 18:56
MinceRyesOct 07 18:57
MinceRIBM hasn't killed it yet.Oct 07 18:57
gnufreexIBM says that AIX will be last man standing.Oct 07 18:57
gnufreexlolOct 07 18:57
gnufreexThey really said that.Oct 07 18:57
MinceRthen they were wrong.Oct 07 18:57
Tekk_oh godOct 07 18:57
MinceRyes?Oct 07 18:57
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Tekk_florian is gonna have a field day with this T.TOct 07 18:58
gnufreexTekk_ how do you mean?Oct 07 18:58
MinceRwho listens to florian?Oct 07 18:58
Tekk_gnufreex: a security vulnerability, in 'open source' no less!Oct 07 18:58
MinceRwell, that has never happened before, has it? :>Oct 07 18:58
Tekk_twice, according to openbsdOct 07 18:59
gnufreexAnd not just open source, all non-Microsoft practically Tekk_Oct 07 18:59
Tekk_what about OSX?Oct 07 18:59
Tekk_it affected?Oct 07 18:59
gnufreexOSX don't have POSIX.Oct 07 18:59
MinceRm$ products have more security vulnerabilities, and those get found, reported and fixed more slowlyOct 07 18:59
gnufreexI doubt it is affectedOct 07 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @gotunandan: 6 months is too short and all distros are guilty of that, I think once a year is goodOct 07 19:00
Tekk_okay, I was overestimating it's posixness thenOct 07 19:00
gnufreexApple say they have POSIX, but they lie.Oct 07 19:00
MinceROS suX is full of ripped-off free software code, so it probably is affectedOct 07 19:00
MinceRi seriously doubt crApple could code their own libc. :>Oct 07 19:00
Tekk_technically they ripped off NeXT who ripped off free software :POct 07 19:00
amd-linuxRe Live Spaces moving over to Wordpress.com: Guess we will see some nice drop in IIS "marketshare" when the 29 million spam blogs will vanish....Oct 07 19:01
MinceRthey continued ripping off free software even after moving from next to os suXOct 07 19:01
gnufreexThey didn't, it is stolen from FreeBSD. But they probably didn't add this feature because that is invented in 2001. Too new for themOct 07 19:01
Tekk_NetBSDOct 07 19:01
Tekk_not freeOct 07 19:01
MinceRi thought they used freebsdOct 07 19:01
amd-linuxIMHO those blog where intentionally tolerated by MS just for stats padding purposesOct 07 19:01
Tekk_nope, netOct 07 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @mohanpram how dare you say _all_ distros ? Ubuntu must be specifically EVIL since they target world domination using fanboy-power <sarcasm>Oct 07 19:01
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gnufreexMinceR: I think their libc is from Mach project or something.Oct 07 19:02
gnufreexIt is not POSIX compatible.Oct 07 19:03
gnufreexIt implements POSIX on top of that, but it is broken in Apple case. This bug is least of their concern. MinceROct 07 19:03
MinceRicOct 07 19:03
schestowitz[19:03] <schestowitz> <amd-linux> IMHO those blog where intentionally tolerated by MS just for stats padding purposesOct 07 19:03
MinceRis it broken enough to break the bug?Oct 07 19:03
schestowitz[19:03] <schestowitz> +1Oct 07 19:03
schestowitz[19:03] <schestowitz> Not just theirsOct 07 19:03
schestowitz[19:03] <schestowitz> Some in CHina, tooOct 07 19:03
schestowitz[19:03] <schestowitz> Sites loves some spammers which help them boost their value when VCs comeOct 07 19:04
schestowitz[19:03] <schestowitz> oopsOct 07 19:04
schestowitz[19:03] <schestowitz> Wrong channel :-<Oct 07 19:04
Tekk_anyone remember how to go fullscreen en qemu?Oct 07 19:04
gnufreex[20:03:47] <MinceR> is it broken enough to break the bug?Oct 07 19:04
gnufreexI would say so. :-)Oct 07 19:04
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schestowitzamd-linux: see the above. I replied in thw wrong tabOct 07 19:04
Tekk_O.O,O,O,O,O,O,OOct 07 19:04
amd-linuxI was just surprised that this was not covered in the news as it was, to me, the obvious reason for all the spam sites.  However, IIS marketshare already dropped in netcraft to below 25%Oct 07 19:05
MinceRBuffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.Oct 07 19:05
amd-linuxbut this is BEFORE the move to wordpress.comOct 07 19:05
schestowitzamd-linux: netcraft is not accurateOct 07 19:06
schestowitzI once read IIS market share is really in teensOct 07 19:06
MinceRnetcraft confirms IIS is dyingOct 07 19:06
schestowitzlike 12%Oct 07 19:06
schestowitzDepends what you measureOct 07 19:06
amd-linuxboy MS is now going down fastOct 07 19:06
schestowitzHits/domains/servers/hosts..Oct 07 19:06
MinceRhm, i think i missed a few "buffalo"s thereOct 07 19:06
schestowitzamd-linux: they do buybacks nowOct 07 19:06
schestowitzTheir fans will show the stockOct 07 19:06
schestowitzMSFTOct 07 19:06
amd-linuxwould not have expected that.... here in germany, mobile is only Android and AppleOct 07 19:06
schestowitz"Look, it's stable [while Microsoft debt inreases]"Oct 07 19:07
amd-linuxjust wow - as I am following MS since 2 decades now....Oct 07 19:07
schestowitzMSFT layoffs next week... likelyOct 07 19:07
schestowitzGermany toOct 07 19:07
schestowitzGermany tooOct 07 19:07
schestowitzNo reason for worry in India, thoughOct 07 19:07
schestowitzInfosys just got massive contratOct 07 19:07
schestowitzThey'll manage all the internal stuff (and staff)Oct 07 19:08
schestowitzIBM is the sameOct 07 19:08
schestowitzThey market themselves as "Western companies"Oct 07 19:08
amd-linuxlast year, they were moving people here in Germany out of the company by offering themOct 07 19:08
schestowitzThey get tax breaks this wayOct 07 19:08
amd-linuxcontracts to work as contractorsOct 07 19:08
schestowitzAnd they still do accounting overseas unless Nevada or Ireland offer good optionsOct 07 19:08
amd-linuxwith guaranteed contract volumeOct 07 19:08
schestowitzThen they rob the nationOct 07 19:08
schestowitzThe stock flattensOct 07 19:09
amd-linuxhehe, not my nation ;-) just the USOct 07 19:09
schestowitzThe shareholders dry up without inside infoOct 07 19:09
schestowitzBut the pyramid scheme is good for Gates/Ballmer/othersOct 07 19:09
amd-linuxMS stock is only still above 20 because too many pension funds are investedOct 07 19:09
amd-linuxIMHOOct 07 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Sintel - The power of open source creation - http://t.co/Io91u5yOct 07 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Fascism in France http://ur1.ca/1zxgrOct 07 19:10
amd-linuxok, gotta go, good night folksOct 07 19:10
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schestowitzMicrosoft Pension - Senle Edition (C)Oct 07 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith it was made by a small team. Budget: $550,000Oct 07 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @chrisccoulson RC builds of #thunderbird 3.0.9 for !ubuntu #lucid and 3.1.5 for #maverick are available for testing now, from http:// ...Oct 07 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Imagine what they could deliver, with more $$$ and persons in the project...Oct 07 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Anyone interested in helping with some CSS work for the upcoming !Fedora !Drupal instance? http://2tu.us/2qrgOct 07 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @gotunandan: LOL! :D Thanks for making me laugh!Oct 07 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Entryism Continues at Yahoo! as More #Microsoft Managers Occupy the Shaken Ship http://ur1.ca/201aj #yahoo #hijack #antitrust complaintsOct 07 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview with Hugh McGuire, Founder of Librivox.org - http://bit.ly/d3MExU really cool project, deserves to be better known #opencontentOct 07 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Hmm I think I'll try #unbound !gentooOct 07 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !listening "shape of my heart" Sting #lastfmOct 07 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Collaborative Manuscript Transcription - http://bit.ly/a2hJKE incredibly cool blog subject: #crowdsourcing MS transcription #blogsOct 07 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CherryPal Announces 7-Inch Android 2.1 Tablet with Sub-$200 Price Tag - http://bit.ly/9k3Q8S one day we'll get The One #android #tabletOct 07 20:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @glynmoody yea one day i hope a soon one dayOct 07 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Case # 2010-5052271. Here be Scum - http://bit.ly/aEh21h another inspiring story from the Blog of Helios #hopeOct 07 20:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Thin lines can be clear http://ur1.ca/201ycOct 07 20:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] have you checked out our sweet limited edition superhero t-shirt? all yours w/ a donation of $75 to CC http://bit.ly/cjZ5JhOct 07 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Weet na vanavond waarom Herman Van Rompuy president van Europese Raad is. #indrukwekken#Oct 07 20:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Love it #ESPN3 is streaming Lakers game from Spain! :D #NBAOct 07 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] RE: @creativecommons: have you checked out our sweet limited edition superhero t-shirt? all yours w/ a donation of $75 to CC bit.ly/cjZ5JhOct 07 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus. What an odyssey.... Finally got the new kitchen table home. Took two trips. I'm exhausted...Oct 07 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Sh*t my Dad Says is now a television series (starring William Shatner)?!?! Wow, the first Twitter feed to be spun into a media product.Oct 07 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Create A Bootable Windows 7 USB Drive From Linux (Ubuntu Specific Instructions) http://bit.ly/cCmNsSOct 07 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera cats surely have personality :)Oct 07 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh damn.... I'm tired.....Oct 07 21:01
Tekk_you know...Oct 07 21:02
Tekk_I bet you I can run dvl as a desktop systemOct 07 21:02
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Tekk_a SAFE desktop systemOct 07 21:05
Tekk_as compared to the latest windows with all security patches, maywarebytes, windows security whatever and an extra antivirus of your choice :POct 07 21:05
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/54751390 "@‎​schestowitz: have you seen the build-depends for building libreoffice... I almost keeled over with all the mon depends..."Oct 07 21:05
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/54751547 "@‎​schestowitz: mono depends are crazy!! Do you use koffice?"Oct 07 21:06
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/54749541 "was there a cingular event that made you take up this fight agains M$ and Novel?"Oct 07 21:07
schestowitzThe software patents deal in 2006, obviously. :-)Oct 07 21:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @charlesschulz Mr. @pingjockey says "...build-depends for building libreoffice... I almost keeled over with all the mon depends..."Oct 07 21:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to read a little bit and then bed. I can't move anymore...Oct 07 21:10
schestowitzHi, PingJockeyOct 07 21:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent Note: Compass Airlines http://ur1.ca/202jwOct 07 21:13
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PingJockeyschestowitz: hows it going?Oct 07 21:14
schestowitzAll rightOct 07 21:15
schestowitzI've just told my contact in LO about MonoOct 07 21:15
schestowitzHe told Groklaw Mono would not be an issueOct 07 21:15
PingJockeyanything mono is always an issue!Oct 07 21:16
schestowitzYesOct 07 21:16
schestowitzBut is it just bindings?Oct 07 21:16
PingJockeyi think so...Oct 07 21:16
PingJockeythere are a ton of lib's tooOct 07 21:16
schestowitzAs long as they don't put anything Mono-based in it, then it's similar to vanilla OOoOct 07 21:16
schestowitzThere's danger that Meeks and co. will try to demote Java and use Mono for somethingOct 07 21:17
PingJockeyim not a fan of java eitherOct 07 21:18
Tekk_I imagine that we might get enough people behind keeping that from happeningOct 07 21:18
Tekk_all the far open sourcers probably have ms office in wineOct 07 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Maple vs Oak: "Supposedly 2nd Rate Symbols" http://larryrusswurm.com/2010/10/06/supposedly-2nd-rate-symbols/ !canada #humourOct 07 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] I'm looking for any information regarding the #Motorola #REDCAP2 DSP. Seems like it is almost unknown. Any help appreciated!Oct 07 21:20
gnufreexTekk_ It will be strugle like GNOME is now. You can expect all kind of Mobbyists to circle around LibreOffice mailing list and attack Free Software.Oct 07 21:20
PingJockeyschestowitz: have you heard any rumors about novell selling SuSE?Oct 07 21:20
gnufreexAnd Novell person is in chage of LO.Oct 07 21:20
gnufreexSo not good.Oct 07 21:20
PingJockeykoffice here i comeOct 07 21:20
gnufreexI think it is would be better if they left OpenOffice with Oracle for now.Oct 07 21:21
gnufreexAt least until Novell get dismatled.Oct 07 21:21
gnufreexOracle is not worse than Novell.Oct 07 21:21
gnufreexEpic bad timing.Oct 07 21:21
PingJockeygnufreex: more like "Epic with a side of FAIL!"Oct 07 21:22
gnufreexI would stop hatting Oracle if they sue Mono.Oct 07 21:24
gnufreexThey like to sue, it wouldn't be hard for them.Oct 07 21:24
schestowitzSAPOct 07 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @pingjockey Here is what i need to build libreoffice, im getting mad just looking at it! #mono #libreoffice #swpatsOct 07 21:25
gnufreexWhat with SAP, schestowitzOct 07 21:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to @timlousjazz "Seduce Me" ... sadly NOT available for a listen to on the slick new site http://www.timlouis.com/Oct 07 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Oh, television, you cursed medium controlled by lunatic drunkards." ~@freezombie !q #humour #sadlyalltooaccurateOct 07 21:30
schestowitzgnufreex: oracle lawsuitOct 07 21:30
gnufreexYep... they sued SAP twice.Oct 07 21:31
DiabloD3twice? wasnt once enough?Oct 07 21:31
gnufreexbut not for patents. They sued them for pirating.Oct 07 21:32
DiabloD3sap? pirating? really?Oct 07 21:32
DiabloD3I'm finding that all to hard^Weasy to believeOct 07 21:32
gnufreexThey downloaded Oracle E-bussiness suite from Pirate BayOct 07 21:32
Tekk_XDOct 07 21:32
gnufreexI don't blame them, it costs milionsOct 07 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Seems it's past time to re-read "Dorian Gray"Oct 07 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Please Tell the Open Web Foundation That It Is Not Compatible With Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/202qd #www #gpl #rand !fsfOct 07 21:33
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gnufreex* I am not sure if it was pirate bay, but they were pirating in popular sense of the word.Oct 07 21:33
DiabloD3I dont blame them either reallyOct 07 21:34
DiabloD3same reason why I salute anyone who pirates photoshopOct 07 21:34
gnufreexThey needed it to steal Oracle's customer who was using that thing. So they needed to test stuf to port things. Only way to get it is ilegaly. Or let Larry's sales droids in your company.Oct 07 21:35
gnufreexNobody wants Oracle sales people.Oct 07 21:35
gnufreexThey are like mobsters.Oct 07 21:35
DiabloD3wellOct 07 21:35
DiabloD3I want a large companyOct 07 21:35
DiabloD3you know why?Oct 07 21:35
DiabloD3just so I can invite oracle sales people overOct 07 21:35
DiabloD3I'll get one of my security people to dress up in all black with an invisible logoOct 07 21:36
DiabloD3and an M4 or somethingOct 07 21:36
DiabloD3actually, like two or threeOct 07 21:36
DiabloD3and escort the guy everywhereOct 07 21:36
DiabloD3not actually DO anything to himOct 07 21:36
DiabloD3just scare the fucking piss out of himOct 07 21:36
hazzyLolOct 07 21:36
bruce89m4 is not that scaryOct 07 21:37
bruce89sorry, bad jokeOct 07 21:37
DiabloD3bruce89: it is when its being generally wobbled in your general directionOct 07 21:37
DiabloD3EITHER the gun or the languageOct 07 21:37
bruce89fair enoguhOct 07 21:37
DiabloD3so, escort him to the meeting roomOct 07 21:37
DiabloD3let him pitch itOct 07 21:38
DiabloD3totally jew him down on itOct 07 21:38
DiabloD3and then decide not to go for itOct 07 21:38
DiabloD3tell him we're going with $fossOct 07 21:38
DiabloD3and have them escort him out to his carOct 07 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ASCAP Tells Artists It's Cutting Their Payments As It Brags To The Press How Much More Money It's Collecting - http://bit.ly/amGQt3 niceOct 07 21:38
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DiabloD3and then have a black hummer follow him out to the street and down the road a few milesOct 07 21:38
Tekk_XDOct 07 21:38
DiabloD3rinse and repeat with a few microsoft reps tooOct 07 21:39
DiabloD3<-- total fucking bastard.Oct 07 21:39
Tekk_DiabloD3: but a fun oneOct 07 21:39
DiabloD3there are BOFH, I wonder if there is a B CEO FHOct 07 21:39
hazzyI like that plan, DiabloD3 :)Oct 07 21:39
DiabloD3I should register bceofh or bastardceo or somethingOct 07 21:40
DiabloD3just in case I ever have to use itOct 07 21:40
DiabloD3I could document, anonymously, my attempts to take over the world, one fucking awesome act of badassery at a timeOct 07 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] O Marcelo Madureira vai na passeata... http://bit.ly/cFkASAOct 07 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @glynmoody therein lies part of the reason WHY it's making loads of money; by not paying it outOct 07 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Please Tell the Open Web Foundation That It Is Not Compatible With Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/202qdOct 07 21:41
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gnufreexI must go.Oct 07 21:42
gnufreexgnOct 07 21:42
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DiabloD3aaaandOct 07 21:42
DiabloD3Im going to bedOct 07 21:42
DiabloD3also, I think I scared gnufreex awayOct 07 21:42
DiabloD3he couldnt handle the size of my balls, figuratively.Oct 07 21:42
DiabloD3actually, probably literally too.Oct 07 21:43
DiabloD3anyhow, night allOct 07 21:43
hazzyNightOct 07 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @segphault MS/Adobe merger rumor! Convergence of such dense companies would create black hole of ineptitude >>fab metaphorOct 07 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody RT @segphault MS/Adobe merger rumor! Convergence of such dense companies would create black hole of ineptitude >>fab metaphorOct 07 21:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody ASCAP Tells Artists It's Cutting Their Payments As It Brags To The Press How Much More Money It's Collecting - http://bit. ...Oct 07 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] out in the world to get some asian before that next class.Oct 07 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Next webcast Oct 21: Culture & Collaboration @Wikipedia w/ Joseph Reagle, "Good Faith Collaboration" author | reg http://bit.ly/b81g6AOct 07 21:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More Software Patents Stockpiling at Facebook http://ur1.ca/202y6 From hobby to monopolist #Zuckerberg #swpatsOct 07 21:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows Phone 7 Buzz Muted by Naysayers (PCWorld) http://bit.ly/bc6cfZOct 07 21:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of Web DOM Core Draft Published http://ow.ly/19kZUSOct 07 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Call for Review: XHTML 1.1, XHTML Basic 1.1, XHTML Print Proposed Edited Recommendations http://ow.ly/19kZUTOct 07 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Examiner.com is the Amway of the online news world? (MediaShift): http://to.pbs.org/aUx8otOct 07 22:03
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hazzyhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/10/07/microsoft-and-adobe-ceos-meet-purportely-plan-world-domination/Oct 07 22:04
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hazzyThey discussed Microsoft's acquisition of AdobeOct 07 22:04
hazzypossible acqusition*Oct 07 22:04
schestowitzHA!Oct 07 22:05
schestowitzDebt.Oct 07 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: ASCAP Tells Artists It's Cutting Payments As It Brags To Press How Much More Money It's Collecting - http://bit.ly/amGQt3 niceOct 07 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @reality could you be suffering from slowloris?Oct 07 22:05
schestowitzntitrust tooOct 07 22:05
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schestowitzDeath of Silver Lie and Metro/XPSOct 07 22:05
hazzyYesOct 07 22:05
schestowitzMicrosoft just doesn't know what it's doing anymoreOct 07 22:05
schestowitzIt almost bought Yahoo! for $42bnOct 07 22:05
hazzyThoughOct 07 22:05
schestowitzMicrosoft- like Yahoo- doesn't know what it's doingOct 07 22:05
hazzyA Microsoft acquisition of Adobe would not be good for LinuxOct 07 22:06
schestowitzIs it search?Oct 07 22:06
schestowitzPatent extortion?Oct 07 22:06
schestowitzZuuuune music?Oct 07 22:06
hazzyAnother dead productOct 07 22:06
hazzyhttps://www.msndirect.com/MSNDirectServiceAnnouncement.aspxOct 07 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Next webcast: Culture & Collaboration @Wikipedia w/ Joseph Reagle, author of "Good Faith Collaboration" - Oct 21 | reg http://bit.ly/b81g6AOct 07 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why the Internet Isn't Making Us Stupid - TIME http://bit.ly/cy16i1Oct 07 22:06
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schestowitzhazzy: not sureOct 07 22:08
schestowitzAdobe was never nice to Linux anywayOct 07 22:08
schestowitzTheir top end products are not out for LinuxOct 07 22:08
schestowitzFlash SDK/s, Publisher, etc.Oct 07 22:08
hazzyWell, with Google supporting HTML5, it won't be a big issue any moreOct 07 22:09
schestowitzFLash can be replaced on the Web now with html5+jsOct 07 22:09
hazzySo, it's not too bad, now that I think about itOct 07 22:09
schestowitzyeah, beat me to itOct 07 22:09
schestowitzsome web tools use html5 to break down pdfsOct 07 22:09
schestowitzscribdOct 07 22:09
schestowitzand othersOct 07 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft buying Adobe would leave the company very deep in debt. Do it Microsoft, like Yahoo!... #microsoft #identitycrisis #suicideOct 07 22:10
hazzyHmm, did you get my last link?Oct 07 22:10
hazzyOh, it was httpsOct 07 22:10
hazzyIt was about another dead productOct 07 22:11
hazzyMSN DirectOct 07 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Next Social Networking Juggernaut - http://bit.ly/cY7QgC "Everything to build a group that operates as a club, a tribe, or a company. "Oct 07 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @reality good. #Apache guys should really do something to permanently fix Slowloris with 2.2.x (at least).Oct 07 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] My definition wins http://ur1.ca/2034cOct 07 22:11
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hazzyThen againOct 07 22:12
hazzyAn acquisition of Adobe by Microsoft would make Google ditch Flash altogetherOct 07 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Next webcast Oct 21: Culture & Collaboration @Wikipedia w/ Joseph Reagle, "Good Faith Collaboration" author | reg http://bit.ly/b81g6AOct 07 22:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So does the version of !choqok in the !kubuntu !maverick repos work with !twitter #Oauth? I can't find any mention on the subject?Oct 07 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody The Next Social Networking Juggernaut - http://bit.ly/cY7QgC "Everything to build a group that operates as a club, a tribe ...Oct 07 22:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I just got the #newtwitter.Oct 07 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @silner check the version; on Lucid (from a special PPA) I have !choqok 1.0b3 (0.9.90), and #OAuth/twitter worksOct 07 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] First impression: a few steps behind #identica and #statusnet, but coming along.Oct 07 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Kaj Arnö of MySQL finally leaves Oracle: http://bit.ly/b1WCtPOct 07 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @rysiek Yeah I'm using beta 3 right now (compiled from source) but I wanted to know how hard I'm gonna have to work to upgrade :)Oct 07 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Developers are key to furthering #HTML5 adoption. Please do experiment, and foster interop by sharing your experience with the HTML WG.Oct 07 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @silner just check the version in Maverick.Oct 07 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @reality @iosefward I looked at latex once. It does seem like hard work to be honest. I prefer Abiword (Abicollab is a real bonus for me)Oct 07 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: Opposition to Software Patents and General 'Ownership' of Software Ideas http://ur1.ca/2039z #swpats #Europe #US #ChinaOct 07 22:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Snuggly The Security Bear returns to reassure us about the White House's new Internet wiretap plans https://eff.org/r.4sNOct 07 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @rysiek I did. It says 0.9.85-0ubuntu2 I was wondering if the last bit denotes that it has Oauth, unlike straight 0.9.85 which didn'tOct 07 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @rysiek It seems like a logical assumption but I wasn't certainOct 07 22:28
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Chips_B_MalroyHi, has everyone seen the Adobe buy out rumor by MS?Oct 07 22:31
hazzyYahOct 07 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New Invention! Soccer Ball Generates Electricity | FitPerez.com http://ping.fm/ioLCzOct 07 22:31
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hazzySchestowitz said it would be a failure just like the Yahoo! dealOct 07 22:32
Chips_B_MalroyMS buying Adobe will be bad news mainly because of Flash being used as almost an open codec on the internet.Oct 07 22:32
hazzyAgreedOct 07 22:32
hazzyButOct 07 22:32
hazzyAn acquisition of Adobe by Microsoft would make Google ditch Flash altogetherOct 07 22:33
hazzyMost of the internet would follow IMOOct 07 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] PCWORLD: Why Windows Is Bad for Business http://tinyurl.com/373hy2g !windows !microsoft !mvp !mvpbuzz !xp !vista !windows7 !zune !kinOct 07 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #H by #tool on my phone. fired up #lastfm on the netbook same H by tool. #eerieOct 07 22:33
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Chips_B_MalroyAdobe Flash right now is multiplatform.  Under MS it would be used as a club and only support Windows.Oct 07 22:33
Chips_B_MalroyWhich is why MS acquiring Flash should be resisted as an antitrust suite.Oct 07 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @bkuhn @benanov @rpcutts @glynmoody It's a new phrase to me. I don't know as I like it. It doesn't roll off the tongue :)Oct 07 22:35
hazzyYeahOct 07 22:35
hazzyI don't think it would go throughOct 07 22:35
Chips_B_Malroyhazzy> I am not so sure about that, Flash is very entrenched.Oct 07 22:35
hazzyIt isOct 07 22:36
Chips_B_MalroyAnd it will take time to move to the google webm8Oct 07 22:36
hazzyOh, againOct 07 22:36
hazzyTrueOct 07 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Snuggly The Security Bear returns to reassure us about the White House's new Internet wiretap plans https://eff.org/r.4sNOct 07 22:36
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Chips_B_MalroyBut then again, this shows what a failure Silverlight is that Ballmer considers buying Adobe.Oct 07 22:37
hazzyThey'd also have PhotoshopOct 07 22:37
Chips_B_MalroyIt is wrong to let MS have Flash without an legal fight.Oct 07 22:37
Chips_B_MalroyThe rest of Adobe, let them have itOct 07 22:39
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: yeahOct 07 22:40
Chips_B_MalroyIt also shows that moonlight is a total failure.Oct 07 22:40
schestowitzYou raised same points as mineOct 07 22:40
schestowitzYahooOct 07 22:40
schestowitzAntitrustOct 07 22:40
schestowitzSilver Lie..Oct 07 22:40
schestowitzTrash being absondoned for HTML5Oct 07 22:40
Tekk_Chips_B_Malroy: actuallyOct 07 22:40
schestowitz*abaondonedOct 07 22:40
Chips_B_MalroyCan I help it if I think you, lolOct 07 22:40
Tekk_adobe probably still has patents on pdf and psOct 07 22:40
schestowitzit shows how crazy Microsoft isOct 07 22:40
schestowitzIt has NO clue what to doOct 07 22:41
Chips_B_MalroyBut Roy, we know Ballmer wants it so he can lock other systems out of flashOct 07 22:41
schestowitzSame with Yahoo in 07-08Oct 07 22:41
Tekk_Chips_B_Malroy: I hope that happensOct 07 22:41
schestowitzyesOct 07 22:41
schestowitzI want Adobe deadOct 07 22:41
schestowitzMicrosoft is dyingOct 07 22:41
Tekk_plusOct 07 22:41
schestowitzI want them to drown with Adobe :-)Oct 07 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] so, uhhh.... who said it was okay to start getting dark now?Oct 07 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] The Basement Coders » Episode 19 – JRebel Jevgeni Kabanov “Bares All” for the Basement Coders http://basementcoders.com/?p=799Oct 07 22:41
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Tekk_if everyone suddenly notices that anyone not using windows can't use flashOct 07 22:41
Chips_B_MalroyWith Flash advertisements MS will have a part of online ads that actually work on run on Google as wellOct 07 22:42
Tekk_we'll have a lot more htm5Oct 07 22:42
Chips_B_MalroyI don't care about Adobe as a company, only Adobe is the lesser of two evils by far compared to MS.  And Adobe Flash deserves and honorable mention saving the world from Silverlight for now.Oct 07 22:44
Tekk_Chips_B_Malroy: not exactlyOct 07 22:44
Tekk_I doubt that silverlight would exist if flash was never aroundOct 07 22:44
Chips_B_MalroytrueOct 07 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] gedit....? why are you not litter box trained? all this ~~~ squiggly poo on my file system...Oct 07 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] terrible fluff piece #kinect ‘had to solve a few impossible problems’ wired.co.uk/wired-magazine/archive/2010/11/features/the-game-changerOct 07 22:45
Chips_B_MalroyBut competiton from Adobe Flash kept Silverlight smallOct 07 22:45
MinceRthe existence of the java plugin would be enough for m$ to want to make its MeToo versionOct 07 22:45
Chips_B_MalroyMS tried to clone and extend Flash with it's me-too Silverlight product.Oct 07 22:45
Chips_B_MalroyAnd dump on Linux users with Mono/MoonlightOct 07 22:46
MinceRindeedOct 07 22:46
MinceRbut there is also java in the same marketOct 07 22:46
Chips_B_MalroyyesOct 07 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't feed the #Mobbyists http://techrights.org/2010/10/07/dont-feed-the-mobbyists/Oct 07 22:46
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Chips_B_MalroyMS has done this with lots of productsOct 07 22:46
Chips_B_MalroyQuestion is, can MS pull another Icahn on Adobe like they did with Yahoo?Oct 07 22:47
abeNd-orghyper-v (heh , no better name than HYPE) vs vmware vsphere, no where near the options, but as they progress they are slowly adding the important oneOct 07 22:47
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MinceRgnOct 07 22:51
abeNd-orgit is however going to add memory management like vmware vsphere has in the next service pack, which was about the last major drawback it had against vsphere, so youll probably see more adoption/migrationOct 07 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPAA: Piracy Will Always Be With Us - http://bit.ly/bGzoGv no, when sharing is legalised, it will disappear #piracyOct 07 22:53
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Chips_B_Malroywell, right now I worry about the future of Virtualbox with Oracle running the shipOct 07 22:53
Chips_B_Malroyis it GPL, I don't think soOct 07 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody MPAA: Piracy Will Always Be With Us - http://bit.ly/bGzoGv no, when sharing is legalised, it will disappear #piracyOct 07 22:55
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hazzyAww, Sintel was so sadOct 07 22:56
abeNd-orgchips no worry, soon hyperv will be the only hypervisor around (at least according to ms marketing)Oct 07 22:57
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*Tekk_ is trying out qemu-kvmOct 07 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Adding a printer in #Fedora reminds me of doing it in #Vista. Multiple password dialogs? Really?Oct 07 23:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This review of #Freetux is lukewarm but it sounds interesting http://goo.gl/ZGKPOct 07 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What Will Be Talked About At The Ubuntu 11.04 Summit: Besides talking about performance at the Ubuntu Developer Su... http://bit.ly/chVXy6Oct 07 23:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] O Marcelo Madureira não vai assinar o MANIFESTO de artistas apoiando a Dilma http://bit.ly/cFkASAOct 07 23:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @cwebber: /me raises an eyebrow at http://www.bitcoin.org/Oct 07 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] In “The New Sharing Economy” CC is the norm: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/23714Oct 07 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Twitter novo ??? Naaaa...Oct 07 23:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @lxoliva agora, você há de concordar que essa represália manifesta intenção de suprimir, forte indício de censuraOct 07 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ISP/landline company offered to reduce my bill by 83 pence/month if I locked in for 2 more years. There is an offer anyone could refuse.Oct 07 23:38
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Chips_B_MalroyHey againOct 07 23:39
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-bank-industry-entering-new-crisis-analyst-2010-10-06Oct 07 23:39
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schestowitzHiOct 07 23:39
schestowitzNot my problem directlyOct 07 23:39
schestowitzBut I will add to daily linksOct 07 23:39
schestowitzYou need another bailoutOct 07 23:39
schestowitzThen the US needs to fight hideout from the intl' banks /sarcasmOct 07 23:40
schestowitz /fight/find/Oct 07 23:40
Chips_B_Malroy"UBS Investment Bank managing director Thomas Zimmerman said the U.S. housing market is continuing to struggle. He cited some statistics that predict there could be 11.5 million foreclosures over the next few years."Oct 07 23:41
schestowitzBill & Warren will figure something outOct 07 23:41
Chips_B_MalroyIt will affect other countiesOct 07 23:41
Chips_B_Malroy*country'sOct 07 23:41
schestowitzcountriesOct 07 23:41
Chips_B_Malroy?If these numbers are right, this is really crazy,? Zimmerman said. ?The situation is not getting better in the housing market. Let?s say it?s only 10 million [foreclosures], that?s really bad.?Oct 07 23:42
schestowitzI know people who plan escape options from the USOct 07 23:42
Chips_B_Malroybut where to go where its better?Oct 07 23:42
schestowitzBut the US is a good economy... for very fewOct 07 23:42
schestowitzVery ultra-rich people on topOct 07 23:43
Chips_B_MalroyIn a way, we are all in the same boatOct 07 23:43
schestowitzMaybe they'll set up charity for soup kitchensOct 07 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ubuntu Won't Moan To EU About Microsoft http://ur1.ca/203ut (via @slashdot)Oct 07 23:43
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schestowitzTo keep the mob off their lawnOct 07 23:43
schestowitzAnd Beck will keep insinuating that they need to assassinate the presidentOct 07 23:44
Chips_B_Malroyyes, the USA is becoming a lot like the old Spanish Colonial ecomony of the few rich and the poor in the America's of the past.Oct 07 23:44
schestowitzUntil the far right takes overOct 07 23:44
schestowitzto uphold tax cutsOct 07 23:44
schestowitzFor the rich :-)Oct 07 23:44
schestowitzAnd shove those "damn liberals" outOct 07 23:44
Chips_B_Malroyok, how does the gov solve this economic problem?Oct 07 23:45
Chips_B_Malroywe can rule out a warOct 07 23:45
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Chips_B_MalroyI suggust breaking up the oil monopolies, stopping oil speculators on the commonity markets and dealing differently with OPICOct 07 23:47
Chips_B_MalroyThe price of gas should be $1.30 or less short term and that would fuel the economy for awhileOct 07 23:47
Chips_B_MalroyBut the gov will not do that, as oil companies pay them offOct 07 23:48
Chips_B_Malroyand if the economy gets better, fuel prices will doubleOct 07 23:48
Chips_B_Malroyputting a damper on any recoveryOct 07 23:48
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schestowitz<Chips_B_Malroy> we can rule out a warOct 07 23:49
schestowitzWe chatted about it ~4 hours ago (see logs)Oct 07 23:49
schestowitzI think war starts when domestic tension is highOct 07 23:50
Chips_B_MalroyAlso both our countries are laying off in the public sector, this is not a way to put people back to workOct 07 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Android tablet dual boots Ubuntu ur1.ca/201hrOct 07 23:50
schestowitzThe government diverts attention to an outside enemyOct 07 23:50
Chips_B_Malroyok, the logs are out already thenOct 07 23:50
schestowitzMaybe China at some stageOct 07 23:50
schestowitz"The Yellow Man took our money and now makes us poor, dumped the USD, etc."Oct 07 23:50
schestowitzSee propaganda posters from the days of the Japan warOct 07 23:51
schestowitz<Chips_B_Malroy> ok, the logs are out already thenOct 07 23:51
Chips_B_MalroyActually the Chinese worked for starvation wages to make products for us cheaplyOct 07 23:51
schestowitzIn half an hourOct 07 23:51
schestowitzI need to finish a post firstOct 07 23:51
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: yes, but the US will spin itOct 07 23:52
Chips_B_Malroyok, well thanks for letting me rant hereOct 07 23:52
hazzy"Apparently MS has courted Adobe previously, but feared anti-trust regulations. With Google and Apple gaining, Microdobe might be possible." from SlashdotOct 07 23:52
schestowitzYou're not gullibleOct 07 23:52
schestowitzBut those who join the army watch FoxOct 07 23:52
schestowitzhazzy: I like the ideaOct 07 23:52
Chips_B_MalroyFox, CNN, MSNBC, they all badOct 07 23:53
schestowitzIt's like taking a multi-headed hydra and turning it into oneOct 07 23:53
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hazzyWaitOct 07 23:53
schestowitzThen you can fight one headOct 07 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Skype's Android shackles are broken, 3G calling hacked into reality - ur1.ca/1zzvgOct 07 23:53
hazzyOh, yeah, okOct 07 23:53
hazzyButOct 07 23:53
schestowitzNot the same with Yahoo!Oct 07 23:53
schestowitzAdobe gives nothing to LinuxOct 07 23:54
schestowitzNot even patchesOct 07 23:54
schestowitzJust dumps on shools kidsOct 07 23:54
hazzyMicrosoft's products keep failing left and right, it's just *not* a good idea from Microsoft's point of viewOct 07 23:54
schestowitzLike gates/MicrsooftOct 07 23:54
Chips_B_MalroyRoy, we did predict this way going happen, a 3rd bailout for banks.  And it will happen shortly after the mid term elections here in the USA.  No matter which party wins.Oct 07 23:54
schestowitzhazzy: but they tried everythingOct 07 23:54
schestowitzThey try to buy themselves out of drowiningOct 07 23:54
Chips_B_Malroy*wasOct 07 23:54
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: the banks are rpporOct 07 23:55
Chips_B_MalroyinsolventOct 07 23:55
schestowitzAt Goldman they only had an average bonus or $500,000 per employee last xmasOct 07 23:55
schestowitzThat's really losyOct 07 23:55
schestowitzThat's really lousyOct 07 23:55
schestowitzLike $500,000 on average.. cleaners tooOct 07 23:55
schestowitzThey need bailoutOct 07 23:55
schestowitzThey own The Hill, why not? :-)Oct 07 23:56
Chips_B_Malroyanother quote from that link:  "Whalen argues that the largest U.S. banks remain insolvent and must continue to shrink. ?Failure by the Obama administration to restructure the largest banks during 2007-2009 period only means that this process is going to occur over next three to five years ? whether we like it or not. The issue is recognizing existing losses ? not if a loss occurred,? he said."Oct 07 23:56
schestowitzThey also own a house in the AlpsOct 07 23:56
schestowitzTo fly to later onOct 07 23:56
Chips_B_MalroyThe same will happen in Europe if it happens here, but a little latterOct 07 23:57
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schestowitzStudy Mandarin thenOct 07 23:58
schestowitzStart earlyOct 07 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Wow, I'm tired. I guess it's expected, working 12 hours per day day for, um, 12 days straight. But I know people are still waiting on me....Oct 07 23:58
Chips_B_MalroyRoy, I can hardly write English, learning a foreign language is out.Oct 07 23:59
schestowitzI was being facetiousOct 07 23:59

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