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_Goblinnenolod: and two points to challenge you about.....firstly your "psycho" comment about Mono.....its not mentioned that much and when it is, its not all psycho....theres even been posts recently about how little we hear about it....Oct 21 00:00
cubevectorwe talk about Amiga more than Mono :)Oct 21 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Steven Jobs is doing it again. And even worse this time. http://ur1.ca/24tmeOct 21 00:01
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_Goblinnenolod: and secondly.....I challenge your remark on leftys blog about "Kids on IRC channel"...Im not a kid, and I would wager Im older than you.Oct 21 00:01
cubevectora broad generalizationOct 21 00:01
_Goblinnenolod: how old are you nenolod?Oct 21 00:01
_Goblincubevector: Its seems if we get "psycho" its about the Amiga!Oct 21 00:02
_Goblincubevector: I can't remember the last Mono discussion here.Oct 21 00:02
nenolodthere was one with gnufreex the other dayOct 21 00:02
nenolodhe justified harassing and taunting mono developersOct 21 00:03
_Goblinso 1 means " this channel tends to get all psycho towards mono users"Oct 21 00:03
nenolodit's likeOct 21 00:03
nenolodin the logsOct 21 00:03
_Goblindoes it?Oct 21 00:03
_GoblinI certainly don'tOct 21 00:03
nenolodok _Goblin you made your pointOct 21 00:03
_GoblinCubevector never has.Oct 21 00:03
nenolodlet me rephraseOct 21 00:03
nenolodpeople take the mono debate too farOct 21 00:03
_Goblinno...I haven't until you man up and appologize for engaging mouth then brain yet agaiin.Oct 21 00:03
nenolodthat is a valid pointOct 21 00:03
_Goblinno they don'tOct 21 00:04
_Goblinwho has?Oct 21 00:04
_Goblinwhen?Oct 21 00:04
nenolodyes, they doOct 21 00:04
_Goblinwhats do far?Oct 21 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johndrinkwater http://ema.direct.gov.uk/ ‘You don't seem to have […] flash, would you like to download it or view the HTML version’Oct 21 00:04
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nenolodthe author of sparkleshare was deridedOct 21 00:04
nenolodfor using monoOct 21 00:04
nenolodon identi.caOct 21 00:04
_GoblinFancy making a comment about Jo Shields when we bombarded me with the "C" word all because I disagreed with him and his Mono viewOct 21 00:04
nenolodcouldn't care less about directhexOct 21 00:05
_Goblinor how about I advise people NOT to mention Mono opinion...lest they get insulted?Oct 21 00:05
_Goblinthats hardly psycho....Oct 21 00:05
_Goblinthats a sad indictment of the world we live in.Oct 21 00:05
Ender2070directhex is a troll himselfOct 21 00:05
nenolodyou don't sayOct 21 00:05
nenolodthe thing isOct 21 00:05
nenolodtechrights.org, the website, links to anti-mono sitesOct 21 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 21 00:06
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_Goblinwhat Mononono?Oct 21 00:06
Ender2070its no secretOct 21 00:06
Ender2070mono isn't liked hereOct 21 00:06
nenolodi'm not saying it is a secretOct 21 00:06
nenolodhowever, those people who write in monoOct 21 00:06
nenolodhave a right to write their code ontop of monoOct 21 00:06
_Goblinnenolod: of course they do...noone says otherwise.Oct 21 00:07
Ender2070yeah they doOct 21 00:07
Ender2070i didnt attack the sparkleshare guy one bitOct 21 00:07
nenolodand i think that is one reason why lefty gets worked up about BNOct 21 00:07
nenolodbecause people who read BN then go and do stuffOct 21 00:07
Ender2070if you want to write mono code, then go ahead, just don't pretend you like linux thenOct 21 00:07
nenolodlike jump on the sparkleshare guyOct 21 00:07
ThistleWebplenty of people will reject it because it's monoOct 21 00:07
nenolod18:00:57  Ender2070:> if you want to write mono code, then go ahead, just don't pretend you like linux thenOct 21 00:07
nenolodthis statement is problematicOct 21 00:07
_Goblinnenolod: you'll have to enlighten me...who jumped on Sparkleshare guy?Oct 21 00:08
ThistleWebif devs are happy cutting off some of their potential users because of the choice of languagge they build in then fineOct 21 00:08
nenolodi don't see how "writing code in mono" means you "don't like linux"Oct 21 00:08
Ender2070not really, people who code in mono like windows, i've noticed it amongst the most prominent devsOct 21 00:08
Ender2070tomboy was adding windows only featuresOct 21 00:08
nenolodbleah :)Oct 21 00:08
Ender2070banshee is adding ms codecsOct 21 00:08
Ender2070etcOct 21 00:08
nenolodwell, porting free software to linux can be used as a conversion methodOct 21 00:08
nenoloderOct 21 00:09
nenolodto windows*Oct 21 00:09
nenolodthe idea is you get them hooked on banshee while running windowsOct 21 00:09
Ender2070thats the only valid arguement they haveOct 21 00:09
nenolodthen you sell something like ubuntu to themOct 21 00:09
Ender2070but you can get gnome and kde stuff on windowsOct 21 00:09
_Goblinand why would we want to get anyone "hooked"Oct 21 00:09
_Goblinthats sounds very gates....Oct 21 00:09
nenolodyes, and you think those don't have windows-specific code in the windows ports?Oct 21 00:09
Ender2070i'd rather get amarok for windows working flawlessly than recommend bansheeOct 21 00:09
Ender2070and get people using thatOct 21 00:10
schestowitz<_Goblin> nenolod: you'll have to enlighten me...who jumped on Sparkleshare guy?Oct 21 00:10
_Goblinbe fair though Ender2070....don't forget Mono does have that killer package to its name.............Oct 21 00:10
schestowitzNot trueOct 21 00:10
schestowitzI talk about the problemOct 21 00:10
nenolodschestowitz: yes trueOct 21 00:10
_Goblinender2070: Gbrainy.......Oct 21 00:10
Ender2070kde for windows is nice btw, just needs more polish, it basicly has its own package managerOct 21 00:10
TechrightsBot-trkde for windows is nice btw, just needs more polish, it basicly has its own package managerOct 21 00:10
schestowitzNot recommended for use because of monoOct 21 00:10
schestowitzNovellOct 21 00:10
_GoblinEnder2070: ;)Oct 21 00:10
nenolodschestowitz: like the hatchet job you did on xen, listing a massive conspiracy theory?Oct 21 00:10
_Goblinhatchet job?Oct 21 00:11
schestowitznenolod: what you're saying is a bit like, if I say don't vote for Democrats I'm against blacks (Obama)Oct 21 00:11
schestowitzGenrally making intention seem differentOct 21 00:11
_Goblinnenolod: sorry could you confirm....are you trolling or FUDing? ....just so we can be clear.Oct 21 00:12
nenolodi'm speaking my opinionOct 21 00:12
_Goblinand bingo youve got it.Oct 21 00:12
Ender2070_Goblin come on, dont play that cardOct 21 00:12
_Goblinits not being "psycho" having an opinion.....Oct 21 00:12
_GoblinEnder2070: what cards that?Oct 21 00:12
schestowitznenolod: xen was going awayOct 21 00:12
schestowitzLF, RHAT, Ubuntu abandoned itOct 21 00:13
Ender2070the "are you trolling or FUDing" cardOct 21 00:13
schestowitzCitrix does not seem to careOct 21 00:13
Ender2070Redhat has the superior KVM to useOct 21 00:13
nenolodKVM is not superiorOct 21 00:13
_GoblinEnder2070: No I wasn't (look at my recent comment)....I making a point...Nenoclod is very keen to make sweeping statements about others views....Oct 21 00:13
Ender2070over xen it isOct 21 00:13
nenolodno, it is not.Oct 21 00:13
nenolodmaybe Xen HVMOct 21 00:13
Ender2070yeah KVM isn't a forkOct 21 00:13
nenolodnot Xen PVMOct 21 00:13
schestowitzbrbOct 21 00:13
Ender2070KVM is the kernelOct 21 00:13
nenolodXen PVM performs considerably better than KVMOct 21 00:14
nenolodlets seeOct 21 00:14
nenolodit doesn't require VMX stuff eitherOct 21 00:14
Ender2070how long do you think that will continue?Oct 21 00:14
Ender2070now that redhat dropped itOct 21 00:14
nenolodwho gives a fuck about redhatOct 21 00:15
Ender2070a lot of peopleOct 21 00:15
nenolodalso why aren't you boycotting redhat?Oct 21 00:15
nenolodredhat made a patent dealOct 21 00:15
nenolodjust like novellOct 21 00:15
Ender2070they are actually making profit unlike some othersOct 21 00:15
Ender2070redhat didnt make an anti foss patent dealOct 21 00:15
nenolodthat's coolOct 21 00:15
Ender2070i happen to like Fedora  a lot too :)Oct 21 00:17
nenolodfedora is okOct 21 00:17
nenolodthey don't bastardize audacious like ubuntu doesOct 21 00:17
nenolodi consider that a plusOct 21 00:17
Diablo-D3hehOct 21 00:17
Ender2070:)Oct 21 00:17
Ender2070lolOct 21 00:17
Ender2070how did they wreck it?Oct 21 00:17
nenolodmanOct 21 00:17
Diablo-D3they PACKAGED itOct 21 00:18
nenoloddon't get me started on canonicalOct 21 00:18
Diablo-D3how else.Oct 21 00:18
Diablo-D3the mere act of packaging ANYTHING for ubuntu fucks it upOct 21 00:18
nenolodi hate canonical probably more than schestowitz hates novellOct 21 00:18
Diablo-D3its like magicOct 21 00:18
Diablo-D3nenolod: I dunno manOct 21 00:18
Ender2070lolOct 21 00:18
nenolodand that's because they consistently screw up audaciousOct 21 00:18
nenolodand then i have to deal with ubuntu usersOct 21 00:18
nenolodwho use their screwed up packagesOct 21 00:18
nenolodand i just tell themOct 21 00:18
Ender2070oh manOct 21 00:18
nenolod"build it from source man"Oct 21 00:18
Diablo-D3roy perodically thinks about burning them down, then has to remind himself hes an honest christian man whos looking out for the little guyOct 21 00:18
nenolodthen they do thatOct 21 00:18
nenolodand they goOct 21 00:18
nenolod"holy shit this works now, thanks dude"Oct 21 00:19
Ender2070LOLOct 21 00:19
Ender2070ubuntu users, that's gotta be funOct 21 00:19
nenolodand then they randomly remove features from audaciousOct 21 00:19
nenolodwithout telling anyoneOct 21 00:19
nenolodso you get a complaintOct 21 00:19
nenolod"i can't play [esoteric format here] anymore!"Oct 21 00:19
Ender2070"I can't play my vqf files!"Oct 21 00:20
nenolodnah vqf worksOct 21 00:20
Ender2070srsly? wowOct 21 00:20
nenolodPSF1/PSF2 doesn't anymoreOct 21 00:20
Ender2070didnt think anything played itOct 21 00:20
nenolodthey patched out the pluginOct 21 00:20
nenolodbecause it was based on MAMEOct 21 00:20
nenolodor some shitOct 21 00:20
hazzyEhh, Audacious 2.3? I guess I have to compile from source on Mandriva tooOct 21 00:20
nenolodnoOct 21 00:20
nenolodit had a mamemem.h fileOct 21 00:20
nenolodwhich wasn't even usedOct 21 00:21
nenolodso they rm'd the entire pluginOct 21 00:21
nenolodand then they have that stupid code of conduct crapOct 21 00:22
nenolodso you're not allowed to call the fucking idiot who broke your software and then didn't follow up with you about breaking your software an assholeOct 21 00:22
nenolodi meanOct 21 00:22
nenolodseriouslyOct 21 00:22
nenolodwith ubuntu it is so bad i'm half tempted to trademark audacious's artworkOct 21 00:23
nenolodand then force them to rebrand the player if they're going to make edits like the ones they have madeOct 21 00:23
Ender2070LOLOct 21 00:23
nenolodthey can call it likeOct 21 00:23
nenolodIcicle Media Player or some shitOct 21 00:23
nenolodi mean fedora patches stuff outOct 21 00:24
nenolodbut at least they document itOct 21 00:24
nenolodand do it in a way where you can just go to rpmfusion.org and pick up the missing bitsOct 21 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @wikileaks WikiLeaks communications infrastructure is currently under attack. Project BO move to coms channel S. Activate Reston5.Oct 21 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Pixman Has Improved Gradients, Is Much Faster: While Cairo is frequently mentioned on Phoronix, mentioned less but... http://bit.ly/bZqdqhOct 21 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] ReactOS Pushes Out A New Operating System Release: The developers behind ReactOS, the free software operating syst... http://bit.ly/cnT9SsOct 21 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Linux 2.6.36 Kernel Is Now Out There: The Linux 2.6.36 kernel is now out there on the Internet. After an unexp... http://bit.ly/bV0ineOct 21 00:24
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Ender2070trueOct 21 00:24
nenolodalso fedora users know better than to try to get support from upstream on a fedora-provided packageOct 21 00:25
nenolodubuntu users have been sold some line of crap from canonicalOct 21 00:25
nenolod"open source developers are here to work for you personally"Oct 21 00:26
nenolodlikeOct 21 00:26
nenolodin audacious 1.5 in gutsyOct 21 00:27
nenolodthey just patched the config structOct 21 00:27
nenolodputting in a static stringOct 21 00:27
nenolodlike seriouslyOct 21 00:27
nenolodaudconfig_t cfg {Oct 21 00:27
nenolod     ...Oct 21 00:27
nenolod+     .output_plugin = "libpulse.so (#0)"; /* NOTE: don't put a static string here, this member is free'd at exit */Oct 21 00:28
nenolod-     .output_plugin = NULL; /* NOTE: don't put a static string here, this member is free'd at exit */Oct 21 00:28
*nenolod rageOct 21 00:28
nenolodi'm sure you can guess what happened when people went to exit audacious or save their config to diskOct 21 00:28
hazzyLOLOct 21 00:28
nenolodi meanOct 21 00:29
nenolodthe patch wasn't exactly thatOct 21 00:29
nenolodbut that's basically the gist of itOct 21 00:29
nenolodi mean seriouslyOct 21 00:30
nenolodwhen it saysOct 21 00:30
nenoloddon't do somethingOct 21 00:30
nenolodthat meansOct 21 00:30
nenoloddon't do itOct 21 00:30
nenolodthe packager in question said something likeOct 21 00:30
nenolod"well, it booted up and the pulseaudio plugin was selected"Oct 21 00:30
nenolod"but you are right, it crashes on exit now"Oct 21 00:30
nenolod"and it doesn't save playlists or config"Oct 21 00:30
ThistleWebany chance you could type in sentences?Oct 21 00:32
ThistleWebinstead of allowing your little finger it's spastic twitches and constantly hitting the ENTER key?Oct 21 00:33
nenolodi've been doing this whole IRC thing for over 10 years manOct 21 00:34
ThistleWebI don't remembner asking how long you'd been doing IRC but thanks for the infoOct 21 00:35
Ender2070i don't remember him asking for smartass commentryOct 21 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn Does that mean it's better? The article @lnxwalt280 can see is almost identical to the original...Oct 21 00:36
Diablo-D3didOct 21 00:36
Diablo-D3ThistleWebOct 21 00:36
Diablo-D3justOct 21 00:36
Diablo-D3talkOct 21 00:36
Diablo-D3backOct 21 00:36
Diablo-D3toOct 21 00:36
Diablo-D3nenoOct 21 00:36
Diablo-D3lod?Oct 21 00:36
Diablo-D3GASPOct 21 00:36
Ender2070aparrentlyOct 21 00:36
schestowitzwut?Oct 21 00:36
Ender2070soOct 21 00:36
ThistleWebsentences with 2 or 3 words work great in a PM when it's only 2 people, but in a convo with multiple people, it gets old, real quickOct 21 00:36
*nenolod stabs Diablo-D3Oct 21 00:37
Diablo-D3<ThistleWeb> I suck dongs.Oct 21 00:37
Diablo-D3thats all I heard.Oct 21 00:37
Ender2070well thistlewebOct 21 00:37
Ender2070thatsOct 21 00:37
Ender2070yourOct 21 00:37
Ender2070opinionOct 21 00:37
Diablo-D3<Ender2070> manOct 21 00:37
nenolodanywayOct 21 00:37
Diablo-D3ftfyOct 21 00:37
nenolodubuntu does horrible things to basically everything i writeOct 21 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Now that I think about it, I think it would be quite awesome if #openbox natively supported tiling.. *nerdgasm*Oct 21 00:37
nenolodi should see if there is a reliable way to find if we are running on a ubuntu system then display a message box saying to switch to anything elseOct 21 00:38
Diablo-D3dmesg?Oct 21 00:38
nenolodbut they would just patch it outOct 21 00:38
Ender2070i believe they put ubuntu in their kernel version stringOct 21 00:39
Diablo-D3Ender2070: I said it first :POct 21 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] sceptic = contrarian #mobbyist = trollOct 21 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @carlopiana ♻ @Act_on_Acta 8 Greens/EFA MEPs tables 8 Priority Questions to the Commission on #ACTA http://bit.ly/9SQ25mOct 21 00:39
nenolodcan we start a boycott ubuntu?Oct 21 00:39
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Ender2070uname -r != dmesgOct 21 00:39
Ender2070but oh wellOct 21 00:39
schestowitznenolod: techrights is about swpatsOct 21 00:39
nenolodschestowitz: ubuntu licensed the mp3 swpats!Oct 21 00:40
schestowitznot fauxpen source as much...Oct 21 00:40
schestowitzOr 'open' coreOct 21 00:40
Ender2070ubuntu is open coreOct 21 00:40
schestowitznenolod: noOct 21 00:40
schestowitzDell didOct 21 00:40
schestowitzWith Canonical endorsement I thinkOct 21 00:40
nenolodohOct 21 00:40
nenolodi thought canonical didOct 21 00:40
schestowitzIt's complicatedOct 21 00:40
schestowitzI did some posts about itOct 21 00:40
Ender2070didn't canonical license it for oem's?Oct 21 00:41
Ender2070ie, dell and etcOct 21 00:41
nenolodubuntu one is some funny shitOct 21 00:41
Ender2070yeahOct 21 00:41
nenolodi wonder if they are ruining audacious to add integration for thatOct 21 00:41
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/06/09/microsoft-extorts-ubuntu/Oct 21 00:41
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Ender2070pulling a trademark move would be the in-thing right now, everyone is doing itOct 21 00:42
Ender2070lolOct 21 00:42
schestowitzubuntu on mpeg-laOct 21 00:42
Ender2070mozilla, iceweaselOct 21 00:42
Ender2070etcOct 21 00:42
schestowitzhttp://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/39723-ubuntu-apes-novell-in-ip-scare-campaignOct 21 00:42
Diablo-D3[07:38:26] <nenolod> can we start a boycott ubuntu?Oct 21 00:43
Diablo-D3yus plzOct 21 00:43
Ender2070perhaps the linsux people would help out on that one, they hate ubuntu tooOct 21 00:43
Ender2070;)Oct 21 00:43
Diablo-D3they hate everythingOct 21 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] googled for 2d barcode examples for an article (on dos & donts), large majority using URL shorteners, some expired… daunting. #qrcodeOct 21 00:44
Ender2070nah read closely, they attack ubuntu people the mostOct 21 00:44
Ender2070most of their angst comes from the ubuntu forumsOct 21 00:45
Ender2070sir sane was trying out fedora a few months ago and had nice stuff to say about itOct 21 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Maybe it's just me, but those Apple AppStore rules look like they'd exclude most open source and all GPL software. http://pastie.org/1236378Oct 21 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is @keitaihaiku just a nymshift for a #mobbyist to get past filters or simply a bot repeater? Blocked anyway.Oct 21 00:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink ... but those Apple AppStore rules look like they'd exclude most open source and all GPL software. http://pastie.org/1236378Oct 21 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I think I'll leave at this junctureOct 21 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @flameeyes Did #Canonical not trademark #Launchpad? Now we're going to get confusion between theirs and Apple's :/Oct 21 00:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] F-U #EC2! Using non-official (not-yet-released) amazon-ec2 I was able to do what ec2-register stopped me from doing for the past WEEKS.Oct 21 00:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I didn't think @webmink was attacking compliance, rather, criticizing anti-FLOSS FUD from certain quartersOct 21 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody yes, "Windows' stranglehold finally loosening" but we need to ensure proprietary software's stranglehold "finally loosening"Oct 21 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Makes daddy proud http://ur1.ca/24u1j "Overall, I'm extremely pleased with Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat."Oct 21 01:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] 16 words into AppStore guidelines and distortion field strong ‘The App Store has revolutionized the way apps are developed and distributed.’Oct 21 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ‘Apps that use deprecated or optionally installed technologies (eg, Java, Rosetta) will be rejected’… farce. Frameworks, middleware bannedOct 21 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] Apparently there are no more restricted drivers in ubuntu, just "additional drivers"Oct 21 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Angry Bird really gets insane...it's like how can I make is really hard for the player...hmmm....still fun game though!Oct 21 01:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @webmink, I'm getting ready for my trip tomorrow. Will read in detail later. I see word "marginalize" is gone, which is good. :)Oct 21 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I "think" I've found a solution to my ogv / mp4 / flv issues on the screencast, though I'll need to record again tomorrow, too tired tonightOct 21 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Why #Facebook Apps Story Is Problem For Entire Web https://eff.org/r.4twOct 21 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I think I'll stay up because I'm in a bad moodOct 21 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn Check the e-mail I sent too.Oct 21 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Actually, I don't know if I can tell if I'm in a bad moodOct 21 01:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @omgubuntu omgubuntu: London Stock Exchange smashes world record trade speed with #Linux http://bit.ly/976g6G: omgubuntu: Lon... http ...Oct 21 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @phoronix ReactOS Pushes Out A New Operating System Release: The developers behind ReactOS, the free software operating syst... http: ...Oct 21 01:41
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gnufreex_What a heck... Florian Mueller says Samba team fought for FRAND..?Oct 21 01:43
gnufreex_Microsoft florian: "The hypocrite of the day: Jeremy Allison, Samba Team/Google. Accuses me on ZDNet of advocating surrender. His team fought for FRAND in EU!"Oct 21 01:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Maybe I'm mad, but I've just had an idea, Rawhide, but only with packages that have unbroken dependenciesOct 21 01:51
oiaohmgnufreex_: O boy.Oct 21 01:52
oiaohmSamba project lead will not be happy.Oct 21 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Vendo MACHETE. Muito bom, Robert Rodriguez em sua melhor forma! ;-)Oct 21 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I'll probably regret this, but it would be called CookedhideOct 21 01:52
gnufreex_oiaohm: I think they already know that Florian Mueller hates everything about Free Sofware. This is not news. But it is eye opener to those who were not paying attention and listened to FM's crap.Oct 21 01:54
oiaohmFlorian Mualler has hit the wrong target.Oct 21 01:55
oiaohmIf Jeremy Allison did not.  Florian will be sued.Oct 21 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Actually, Chamois would make senseOct 21 01:56
gnufreex_How do you mean?Oct 21 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito yeah but the weather is getting cooler so we need to close those windows ;)Oct 21 01:56
oiaohmAnd the lead developer has no tollerence for Restrictions.Oct 21 01:56
oiaohmFRAND was granted to Samba by the courts.  It was not what the Samba team was asking for.Oct 21 01:56
gnufreex_I think it is not FRAND at all.Oct 21 01:57
oiaohmSamba does have access to a legal team.Oct 21 01:57
oiaohmIt is techically a FRANDOct 21 01:57
oiaohmBut if you product is open source you don't have to pay anything.Oct 21 01:57
gnufreex_Samba doesn't pay royalties, only buys documentation. There is no anual payments to Microsoft.Oct 21 01:57
oiaohmIf you want to do a closed source implemtnation you have to pay.Oct 21 01:57
oiaohmIe the court forced a grant.Oct 21 01:58
oiaohmMS had to work out how todo it.Oct 21 01:58
oiaohmMS managed to create a FRAND.Oct 21 01:58
gnufreex_That is not FRAND then. It is like GPL.Oct 21 01:58
oiaohmIts techically still a FRAND just like GPL is still copyright.Oct 21 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for October 21, 2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/409952/rssOct 21 01:59
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oiaohmBut not all copyrights are good to people like GPLOct 21 01:59
gnufreex_Well, you could say that. But that is not what Florian says when he thinks FRAND.Oct 21 01:59
gnufreex_He wants open source projects to pay anually to Microsoft.Oct 21 02:00
gnufreex_Or per downloaded copy.Oct 21 02:00
gnufreex_Of coruse, he didn't say that explicitly, but his talk goes that direction.Oct 21 02:00
Diablo-D3waht the fuck is this frand shit anyhowOct 21 02:00
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair,_Reasonable_and_Non_Discriminatory_termsOct 21 02:01
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oiaohmStandard crap stuff.Oct 21 02:01
oiaohmfrand is far to vage on what Fair and Reasonable is.Oct 21 02:02
Diablo-D3ahh soOct 21 02:02
Diablo-D3fox news == frand, cnn == gplOct 21 02:02
oiaohmBasically if you Frand said to use a particular standard you have to pay 1 million dollars.   As long as everyone had to.   Then the Frand would be valid.Oct 21 02:03
oiaohmEven if the standard was less than half a page long.Oct 21 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I hate somethingOct 21 02:04
oiaohmYes basically fancy legalise so you can write what ever conditions you like onto a standard and make money from it.Oct 21 02:04
oiaohmMind you Frand is better than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_Non_Discriminatory_Licensing\Oct 21 02:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Nunca vi Danny Trejo tão bem num papel como em Machete. Muito 10. O cara tem talento!Oct 21 02:07
Diablo-D3oiaohm: ahhOct 21 02:08
Diablo-D3I like frand thenOct 21 02:08
Diablo-D3at least when I become rich, microsoft cant deny me.Oct 21 02:08
WireWulfWhen i am RichOct 21 02:08
Diablo-D3my rock hard dick will be inserted into microsoft's tight young holes and... uh, erm, uh, nmOct 21 02:08
WireWulfI will buy M$ and dismantel itOct 21 02:08
Ender2070LOLOct 21 02:12
oiaohmNow there are another form of standards.Oct 21 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ubuntu and Qt http://bit.ly/aqDJLY !ubuntu #QTOct 21 02:14
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oiaohmWhere all patents are free and open for everyone to use.Oct 21 02:14
oiaohmBasically BSD of the patent world.Oct 21 02:14
oiaohmIn theory you could create a GPL equal as a FRANDOct 21 02:15
oiaohmIe free to use as long as you release the source code.Oct 21 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Righthaven defendant wins first lawsuit dismissal motion https://eff.org/r.t7xOct 21 02:19
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gnufreex_oiaohm: You don't get FRAND right.Oct 21 02:20
gnufreex_It is vague concept, it can mean many things.Oct 21 02:20
bruce89I'm getting worried about the anti-GTK+ rhetoric coming from some peopleOct 21 02:20
gnufreex_It can mean "pay per copy, but not pay big price".Oct 21 02:21
bruce89mind you, there's always been some plonkers thinking that GNOME should be ported to QtOct 21 02:21
gnufreex_Or it can mean "pay only if comercial sofware". And "commercial" definition is vague. GPL is commercial license. Any FOSS license is comercial.Oct 21 02:22
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gnufreex_And then it turns out that commercial distributor is shaken down for distributing Free Software.Oct 21 02:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I've just thought of something, with Launchpad, it is now Apple copying Ubuntu's naming schemeOct 21 02:24
Viper550in before iTunes OneOct 21 02:25
bruce89maybe I didn't mean naming schemeOct 21 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Apparently GNOME's no good for Ubuntu any more, so they perhaps possibly throw their lot in with Qt insteadOct 21 02:27
WireWulfbruce89: apple and ubuntu are coping eithers cowbell ?Oct 21 02:28
bruce89I was in a bad enough mood as it was before hearing yet more Ubuntu insanityOct 21 02:28
bruce89maybe they don't want GTK+ 3.0 or somethingOct 21 02:30
WireWulfmaybe they arre trying not to be debian ?Oct 21 02:30
bruce89well, they're certainly trying to not be like a normal distroOct 21 02:32
Ender2070Qt is betterOct 21 02:32
WireWulfthere was a distro use to say insanity was the norm for themOct 21 02:33
WireWulfbut that was the system not the fact it changed every bloody 10 secOct 21 02:33
bruce89Ender2070: be that as it may, it shows that they don't want to have anything to do with GNOMEOct 21 02:34
Ender2070GTK != GnomeOct 21 02:34
Ender2070GTK came from Gimp originallyOct 21 02:34
bruce89well, they're fairly well linked these daysOct 21 02:34
Ender2070not reallyOct 21 02:35
Ender2070the gnome people seem to like gtk# betterOct 21 02:35
bruce89I do realise the history thank youOct 21 02:35
bruce89that is complete crapOct 21 02:35
Ender2070banshee, tomboy, etc, all becoming gnome defaultsOct 21 02:35
bruce89and that is also not rightOct 21 02:35
bruce89apart from tomboy obviouslyOct 21 02:36
Ender2070the mono for Qt was abandoned after KDE3Oct 21 02:36
bruce89which incidentally I don't use because I have no need for itOct 21 02:36
Ender2070though I have to sayOct 21 02:36
Ender2070I've been looking at E17Oct 21 02:36
Ender2070i'm very impressedOct 21 02:36
WireWulfI played with E17Oct 21 02:37
WireWulflike this mornOct 21 02:37
Ender2070and considering I use mostly chromium anyways why not get rid of all the other junkOct 21 02:37
bruce89I'd also point out that GTK+ is not comparable with Qt anyway, Qt is an environment of its own alreadyOct 21 02:37
Ender2070Qt isn't an environmentOct 21 02:38
bruce89I meant it is all-encompassingOct 21 02:38
Ender2070It gives C++ a lot of what modern languages haveOct 21 02:38
Ender2070KDE makes it all encompassingOct 21 02:39
Ender2070KDE-libsOct 21 02:39
Ender2070but look at e17, very tiny and it has the eye candy you would expect requires a graphics card with lots of powerOct 21 02:39
Ender2070gnome is dead to me, it hasn't seen new features since 1.xOct 21 02:40
Ender20702.x was the removal of features, graduallyOct 21 02:40
Ender2070with the addition of .NETOct 21 02:41
bruce89pishOct 21 02:41
bruce89you clearly haven't heard of 3.0Oct 21 02:41
Ender2070yes I haveOct 21 02:41
Ender2070its just a shell on top of the heaping old messOct 21 02:42
Ender2070they should have done a rewriteOct 21 02:42
Ender2070worked for KDE4Oct 21 02:42
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bruce89I'd like some specific examples of heaping old messesOct 21 02:43
Diablo-D3[09:36:50] <bruce89> I'd also point out that GTK+ is not comparable with Qt anyway, Qt is an environment of its own alreadyOct 21 02:44
WireWulfKDElite and KDEmod seem nice :POct 21 02:44
Diablo-D3not true at allOct 21 02:44
Ender2070its gnome 2.x with a different shellOct 21 02:44
Ender2070how is it differentOct 21 02:44
Diablo-D3qt is just a toolkit just like gtk isOct 21 02:44
bruce89well, I meant that GTK+ is just a UI toolkitOct 21 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Graf v. Zynga Game Network, Inc https://eff.org/r.t8yOct 21 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @bkuhn you used to look at the libre distros, right?Oct 21 02:44
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Ender2070you can get that shell right now in 2.x even, if your distro packages itOct 21 02:44
bruce89I'm using it as we speakOct 21 02:45
Diablo-D3bruce89: yes, but what in qt can you do, thats important, that gtk doesnt.Oct 21 02:45
Ender2070it doesnt make any of the apps betterOct 21 02:45
oiaohmEnder2070: mono interfaces still exist for KDE 4Oct 21 02:45
bruce89I'm really not in the mood to have everything I believe in mockedOct 21 02:45
Ender2070often improvements into kde and qt trickle down into the appsOct 21 02:46
Diablo-D3you're on the wrong internet then.Oct 21 02:46
WireWulfif Qt was lighter faster and made my pp rn fast and look sexy I would like itOct 21 02:46
oiaohmLot of the mono guys don't like they are held to the edge.Oct 21 02:46
Ender2070oiaohm - look again, its been abandoned prety muchOct 21 02:46
Diablo-D3qt# is dead, btwOct 21 02:46
Diablo-D3or was it kde#Oct 21 02:46
Diablo-D3I forget the nameOct 21 02:46
oiaohmThe script interface for plasma is still maintained.Oct 21 02:46
Ender2070KimonoOct 21 02:46
Ender2070which is pretty deadOct 21 02:46
oiaohmfor .netOct 21 02:46
oiaohmeverywhere else basically dead.Oct 21 02:47
oiaohmQT world has very little interest in .netOct 21 02:47
Ender2070Qyoto is pretty deadOct 21 02:47
Ender2070yeah Qt gives less than a shit about monoOct 21 02:47
Diablo-D3its actually in reverseOct 21 02:47
Ender2070they have a better technologyOct 21 02:47
Diablo-D3mono doesnt do c++ wellOct 21 02:47
Ender2070C++/Qt beats monoOct 21 02:48
Diablo-D3they'd be better off porting qt to c++/cilOct 21 02:48
Diablo-D3thats how bad it isOct 21 02:48
Ender2070mixing C++/Qt with Mono is just dumbOct 21 02:48
Ender2070and slowOct 21 02:48
Ender2070its just so mono devs can keep their golden hammerOct 21 02:48
bruce89I mean, I don't come in here and insult KDE4 with unsubstantated claptrapOct 21 02:49
oiaohmQyoto  Still has maintainers and still getting updated.Oct 21 02:49
oiaohmYes not dead yet but.Oct 21 02:49
oiaohmProblem Qyoto is having javascript on smoke is ending up needing less resources and running faster.Oct 21 02:50
oiaohmYes sad day for mono.Oct 21 02:50
Ender2070looks like it hasn't been in ubuntu since karmicOct 21 02:50
Ender2070libqyoto4.4-cilOct 21 02:50
oiaohmI know of no qyoto scripts.Oct 21 02:51
oiaohmIts basically maintained dead man walking.Oct 21 02:51
Diablo-D3so hurd?Oct 21 02:52
Diablo-D3dohohohohoOct 21 02:52
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oiaohmQml is interesting Javascript applciations at the QT layer.Oct 21 02:53
oiaohmNo KDE required.Oct 21 02:53
Diablo-D3that could be interestingOct 21 02:53
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Ender2070hurd?Oct 21 02:53
oiaohmhurd the OS.  Ender2070Oct 21 02:53
oiaohmThe GNU OS that basically sits of to the side getting used by no one.Oct 21 02:54
Ender2070dohohohohoOct 21 02:54
oiaohmhttp://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/10/19/exporting-qml-from-photoshop-and-gimp/  This is also interesting.Oct 21 02:55
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oiaohmBasically create you app in the graphics editor of your choosing.Oct 21 02:55
Ender2070yeahOct 21 02:55
Ender2070its quite interestingOct 21 02:55
Ender2070plasma uses it (javascript) for some widgetsOct 21 02:56
oiaohmplasma might end up using pure QmlOct 21 02:56
oiaohmFor javascript supportOct 21 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @eff Graf v. Zynga Game Network, Inc https://eff.org/r.t8yOct 21 02:57
oiaohmNokia taking over QT has been the best thing that ever happened to it.Oct 21 02:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] So I basically do nothing, and one of the few things I am pleased with is worthlessOct 21 03:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] If I wasn't in a bad mood earlier, I certainly am nowOct 21 03:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Graf v. Zynga Game Network, Inc https://eff.org/r.t8yOct 21 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Why #Facebook Apps Story Is Problem For Entire Web https://eff.org/r.4twOct 21 03:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Groklaw wins EFF Pioneer Award http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2010101920194990Oct 21 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: AsbestOS: Run Linux on your PS3 without OtherOS ur1.ca/24s6z "Martin has been working on AsbestOS for over a month."Oct 21 03:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Perfeito, agora Cheech Marin entrou na trama. Filme onde tudo funciona. Muito 10!!!Oct 21 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] AMD aposta que recursos gráficos trarão vantagem contra Intel http://bit.ly/cg2siaOct 21 03:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ISSOOOOO!!! Acho q o Tarantino queria ter nascido Robert Rodriguez. O Chicano é muito BOM!Oct 21 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ♻ @infolinux: #Linux desbanca #Windows no mercado de #datacenters : http://bit.ly/aNG0vwOct 21 03:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] ugh, this is so retardedOct 21 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] pondering whether or not i should go for a walk or something. i feel cramped.Oct 21 04:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @snarf: Apple OSX 'invents' Apt is.gd/gaBGz #debian #gnu #linux #ubuntu #crappleOct 21 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @snarf: Secret Diary of Steve Jobs: I’m not worried about Android. That’s why I keep talking about it all the time. is.gd/gaC7F #androidOct 21 05:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @robynbergeron: ♻ @rrix ♻ @huertanix: Enterprise software is like hot dogs. You don't want to know how the stuff is made.Oct 21 05:06
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Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiBSdBDeucUOct 21 05:29
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AdmFubar_helloOct 21 05:32
AdmFubar_noticed this on tech dirt and had a good laughOct 21 05:33
AdmFubar_http://www.cracked.com/article_18817_5-reasons-future-will-be-ruled-by-b.s..htmlOct 21 05:33
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AdmFubar_thought you'd like it for tech rightsOct 21 05:33
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56530823#notice-57037702 "Dude, the only thing I think when I hear "open" windows is just a regular window being open.  :D  lol nothing else."Oct 21 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: @bignose RTFL has always been an issue :( the only thing i can think to do is to link to the human-readable summary pagesOct 21 05:39
cubevectorthis is showing up on the apache logs again:Oct 21 05:46
cubevector"../../../../../../../../../../../../../../.."Oct 21 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Submissions to !lca2011 Miniconfs CFP's close soon! Get yours in! Regos open with Early Bird tickets available for a limited time. Yum yum!Oct 21 05:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozartrocksro: Hehehe , și eu folosesc Gwibber pe Ubuntu ! E chiar fain, fără complicații inutile !Oct 21 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jeroendedauw #Maps and #SemanticMaps 0.7.1 released - images as layers! - http://is.gd/gaERv !MediaWiki !SMWOct 21 06:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ellipsis Unity Coming to the the Desktop in !Ubuntu 11.04! http://bit.ly/cOA5fEOct 21 06:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @snarf Secret Diary of Steve Jobs: I’m not worried about Android. That’s why I keep talking about it all the time. is.gd/gaC7F !andro ...Oct 21 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @agentsmith ♻ @infolinux: #Linux desbanca #Windows no mercado de #datacenters : http://bit.ly/aNG0vwOct 21 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @agentsmith AMD aposta que recursos gráficos trarão vantagem contra Intel http://bit.ly/cg2siaOct 21 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @fernandoike ♺ @planetdebian: Raphael Hertzog: Understanding !Debian’s release process - http://bit.ly/d6WsaIOct 21 06:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @all1nfo ANDROID #news: OkCupid, The Android App LOVER Finder http://bit.ly/9t1x8r !android #androidandmeOct 21 06:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @phoronix ReactOS Pushes Out A New Operating System Release: The developers behind ReactOS, the free software operating syst... http: ...Oct 21 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody RT @jerezim Kader Arif (S&D, FR): 500 mp3 is undeniably a commercial scale #ACTA >>these people have no idea..Oct 21 06:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] RT @morpheuz: Qt 4.7 for Symbian^3 – developer version available - http://ur1.ca/24op9 #shareOct 21 06:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here's an off headline to find in mainstream news sites: http://ur1.ca/24w9p "Seven inches is enough, RIM tells Jobs"Oct 21 06:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #London #Stock Exchange smashes world record trade speed with #Linux http://bit.ly/976g6G #lse #microsoft #gnuOct 21 06:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] So !lca2011 has a little bit of amazing news we'll announce this evening ... What might it be??? Here's a tip: Get ready to tell everyone!Oct 21 06:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bob Sutor: OSs used to access my website in last month: #Windows 55.5%, #Linux 19.9%, #Mac 19.5%, #iPhone 1.7%, #iPad 1.5%, #Android 1% #gnuOct 21 06:37
Ender2070http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.htmlOct 21 06:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] New Member Spotlight: Aava Mobile Goes All Open http://nowskip.to/c6JL2iOct 21 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] EDRi-gram 8.20: European Commission issues Guidelines for more rigorous respect of the Fundamental Rights Charter http://bit.ly/bRmRemOct 21 06:44
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schestowitz[01:59] <oiaohm> Its techically still a FRAND just like GPL is still copyright.Oct 21 06:45
schestowitzThe F is spuriousOct 21 06:45
schestowitzJust say "RAND"Oct 21 06:45
schestowitzThe FSF expands this acronym with comedy, tooOct 21 06:45
schestowitzFRAND sounds like friendOct 21 06:45
schestowitzAnd the "fair" is spurious. It's not fair, eitherOct 21 06:46
schestowitzPATRIOROct 21 06:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #HP announces #Palm Pre 2 with WebOS 2.0 http://ur1.ca/24rl9Oct 21 06:46
schestowitzPATRIOTOct 21 06:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #IBM #Lotus #Symphony 3 http://is.gd/gaIB8 #odfOct 21 06:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #IBM #Lotus #Symphony 3 http://is.gd/gaIB8 #odfOct 21 06:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bob Sutor: Browsers used to access my website in last month: #Firefox 46.9%, #Chrome 25.2%, #IE 14.3%, #Safari 9.5%Oct 21 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Hey! How are you doing over there?? I hope this is not disturbance for you!" -- Wow! Polite spam? Amazing...Oct 21 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bob Sutor: OSs used to access my website in last month: #Windows 55.5%, #Linux 19.9%, #Mac 19.5%, #iPhone 1.7%, #iPad 1.5%, #Android 1% #gnuOct 21 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @webmink Really? Must be a personality thing. What depresses me is Cisco violating the GPL and getting away with it...Oct 21 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz LOL. @jwildeboer seems to dig it too... :)Oct 21 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @dwmw2 (twitter): This is the kind of crap you get for letting SSDs manage themselves: http://bit.ly/9BWxCDOct 21 07:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] @fabsh there used to be this type of show on MTV Europe... Jukka Jukka something. Maybe @jwildeboer remembers. Similar to #markorepairsOct 21 07:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Still dark at 7.00 O'clock - what are we doing on Summer Time?Oct 21 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] just watched terminator salvation, and all i can say is that it sucked.Oct 21 07:19
schestowitzVincent VQuickborne??? http://twitter.com/VincentVQOct 21 07:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] !Debian & !Ubuntu to replace apt-get install with App-get, 2 keep up with Apple? ;-) #DebiansHadAppStore4MoreThanADecadeOct 21 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mobbyists: man bites dog; World+Dog: No!! Please don't say that. (Trolls bait.)Oct 21 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII RT @BytePatent: To wit. RT @IPThinkTank: Microsoft – Microsoft licenses Palm tech from patent troll Acacia http://dld.bz/zSaNOct 21 07:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's really something when even patent lawyers use terms like "patent troll"Oct 21 07:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why is Marion Dewar promoting this party line? @ffii and @zoobab might know...Oct 21 07:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20101013065552508Oct 21 07:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer I think feeding reversal of truth may only feed the propaganda, thus counter-productiveOct 21 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @MarietjeD66: #ACTA debate in Euro Parliament tonight w/Commish De Gucht livestream via http://bit.ly/aAgWvT around +/-22:20Oct 21 07:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @Act_on_Acta 8 Greens/EFA MEPs tables 8 Priority Questions to the Commission on #ACTA http://bit.ly/9SQ25mOct 21 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII De Gucht: Ombudsman has recognized #confidentiality of #ACTA was justified #acta (Ombudsman answer to #FFII complaint)Oct 21 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII DeGucht says penal sanctions on patents are excluded in the latest #ACTA draft. That is factually wrong.Oct 21 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] On the road for tech repair. I feel like some nerdcore...Oct 21 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII De Gucht arrogantly disputes that MEPs criticise closed #acta door approachOct 21 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII Instead of answering questions de Gucht criticizes MEPs #acta #getanotherjobOct 21 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz RT @MarietjeD66: #ACTA debate in Euro Parliament tonight w/Commish De Gucht livestream via http://bit.ly/aAgWvT around + ...Oct 21 07:49
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schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/10/19/divide-and-shoot-self-in-foot/Oct 21 07:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Apple posts guidelines for Mac App Store (and we have highlights) - TUAW - ur1.ca/24wsm #1984Oct 21 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] London Stock Exchange moves to !Linux http://ur1.ca/24wst "moved to Linux for the same reason the vast majority of supercomputers run Linux"Oct 21 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Great blog post with some cool OpenBox themes: !openbox !crunchbang !linux #themes http://www.hilltopyodeler.com/blog/?p=346Oct 21 07:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ouch RT @beaTunesApp: #Apple just killed #Java on (future versions of) OS X http://tinyurl.com/24vcexq http://fb.me/JwWw2C8D /via @stilkovOct 21 07:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @pookito Half the size of iPad and not proprietary like Apple, it should be half the price, no? :) I actually like the look of it. !androidOct 21 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] RT @CitizenSheep "Gov not yet in top 10 websites in UK ... an oversight we're not using them..." Really? Maybe just better ways. #beyond2010Oct 21 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, Samsung Galaxy S with !android price 0€ with 15€/month until April 2011 at Movistar. I think I just found my new phone. #screwvodafoneOct 21 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richardsmedley !debian and !ubuntu need to concentrate on fixing shit instead of changing things that already work perfectly! #tangentOct 21 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OS X App Store? LOL! You let them do this shit to you? Hahahaha....Oct 21 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Apple iPad $499 Verizon !android Tablet $599 which is half the size and isn't running proprietary Mac software. So what's the f#ck/ng deal?!Oct 21 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Mandriva makes the headline! http://blog.mandriva.com/2010/10/20/mandriva-makes-the-headline/ Not to be counted outOct 21 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh RE: http://ur1.ca/24wwo http://ur1.ca/24my9Oct 21 08:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] @richslxh It was just a bit of random irony @ ppl blogging so enthusiastically about Apple's latest "innovation" !Debian !Ubuntu #sarcasm ;)Oct 21 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Desktop Linux: The Presstitutes Strike Again! http://ur1.ca/24wxq !gnu !linux #FUD #idgOct 21 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Steve Ballmer is going to speak here in Riyadh in an 'Open Door' event.Oct 21 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Manhattan OS Rebranded As Jupiter OS; Ditches !Ubuntu For !Debian http://ur1.ca/24wzj "new Linux distribution called Jupiter OS."Oct 21 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] Rebuilding memories from gmail is really cool. Found an email from Wiley seeking permission to use an old article of mine as a case study.Oct 21 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] So I'm a published and a referenced author. <-- that'll keep the ego satisfied... till lunch.Oct 21 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] RT @danslee Growing flowers: 42 ideas for #localgov from #beyond2010 http://bit.ly/cxLxYj #gov20 // Good stuff. Hope (local) Govt listeningOct 21 08:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Donate Your Bandwidth to Support Ubuntu Downloads http://ur1.ca/24x2k Just !Ubuntu ? Others need it moreOct 21 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] Biblebook: John 8:32: Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. Facebook: 2010: The truth shall set you rotflolOct 21 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The 2.6.36 kernel is out http://lwn.net/Articles/409810/ !linuxOct 21 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richardsmedley Sorry, it's early, I completely missed the irony lol! :)Oct 21 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At last a cheap Negative film scanner which works with !Linux http://ur1.ca/24x3k "The device is great,"Oct 21 08:39
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cubevectorahOct 21 08:42
cubevectorhow about a good slide scanner?Oct 21 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VMware Buying Novell? Why Add More Blah? http://ur1.ca/24x3x #novell #vmb_wareOct 21 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] RT @Stubbs Remaining IPv4 address space drops below 5% http://bit.ly/9CJfiA #IPv6Oct 21 08:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus. I hate it when people treat very annoying, widespread bugs like this b/c it's not in a default component. Sucks. http://ur1.ca/24x5cOct 21 08:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug 641846 &ndash; Panel applets (clock, workspace switcher, window selector, ...) randomly disappear .::. Size~: 61.48 KBOct 21 08:47
schestowitzSteve Jobs licks his lips... http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/organdonation/Oct 21 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz At last a cheap Negative film scanner which works with !Linux http://ur1.ca/24x3k "The device is great,"Oct 21 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz The 2.6.36 kernel is out http://lwn.net/Articles/409810/ !linuxOct 21 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Desktop Linux: The Presstitutes Strike Again! http://ur1.ca/24wxq !gnu !linux #FUD #idgOct 21 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @shapado what can Debian learn from its competitors? great answers here http://ur1.ca/24wwn #bestof !debianOct 21 08:54
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: what can Debian learn from its competitors - Debian Debian related questions? We can help you .::. Size~: 73.24 KBOct 21 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz !Mandriva makes the headline! http://blog.mandriva.com/2010/10/20/mandriva-makes-the-headline/ Not to be counted outOct 21 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz London Stock Exchange moves to !Linux http://ur1.ca/24wst "moved to Linux for the same reason the vast majority of super ...Oct 21 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @markey The !Linux 2.6.36 kernel is out: http://lwn.net/Articles/409810/Oct 21 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Manhattan OS Rebranded As Jupiter OS; Ditches !Ubuntu For !Debian http://ur1.ca/24wzj "new Linux distribution called Jup ...Oct 21 09:02
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schestowitzgnufreex: http://tinyogg.com/watch/KmLXb/Oct 21 09:11
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schestowitzSerbianOct 21 09:11
schestowitzI will post this in Links shortlyOct 21 09:11
gnufreexYou want me to translate?Oct 21 09:11
gnufreexNo much interesting to translate, just talks while unboxing. I hoped to see review.Oct 21 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Federal scientists go public in face of restrictive media rules - http://bit.ly/a6voSC go, Canadian scientists #canada #antiscienceOct 21 09:17
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gnufreexschestowitz: Lefty's attacks on people are routed to GNOME planet. I tihnk he tries to disturb RMS again, so he Philip Van Hoof can have another try of making GNOME break away from Sofware Freedom.Oct 21 09:19
schestowitzno need for wording thereOct 21 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Virginia school AP History class bans curiousity, independent study, Internet - http://bit.ly/a3Dczf quite right, too: who needs them?Oct 21 09:19
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schestowitzI just needed some Nokia wares vidsOct 21 09:19
schestowitzgnufreex: people don't take him seriouslyOct 21 09:20
schestowitz[08:08] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn @lefty is a troll. One I set him to blocked, my quality of living on here improved by 300% overnight. :)Oct 21 09:20
schestowitzTo name just oneOct 21 09:20
schestowitzHe's disgracedOct 21 09:20
schestowitzNow he just flirts with other mobbyistsOct 21 09:20
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56525581#notice-57069906 "The Linux Foundation is flaunting Linus Torvalds as the creator of the entire !GNU / !Linux operating system again. *sigh*"Oct 21 09:21
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schestowitz"Link to proof, please. He did create the Linux kernel, but not GNU; to claim he created GNU would be an outright lie."Oct 21 09:21
schestowitzI agree, I don't quite see it.Oct 21 09:23
cubevectorsounds like Brown?Oct 21 09:23
schestowitzKen?Oct 21 09:23
cubevectoryeah but I see no one is saying that :)Oct 21 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Get Mobile with #Fedora 14 http://press.redhat.com/2010/10/20/spotlight-feature-get-mobile-with-fedora-14/ #gnu #linuxOct 21 09:24
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schestowitzcubevector: yeahOct 21 09:24
schestowitzWell, if they wanted to delete RMS from historyOct 21 09:24
schestowitzAnd FSF from the tableOct 21 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @nitot: Steve Jobs about the new MacBook Air: http://i.imgur.com/51f9p.jpgOct 21 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Manhattan OS Rebranded As Jupiter OS; Ditches Ubuntu For Debian http://bit.ly/90XfL0Oct 21 09:26
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56525581#notice-57069906 "In the article it talks about Linus creating an operating system now "the leading OS for smartphones", not a kernel, this is a lie"Oct 21 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyright & endogenous market structure: a glimpse from the journal-publishing market - http://bit.ly/cUYYrs "highly concentrated industry"Oct 21 09:27
schestowitzAFAIK, most phones may run Linux, but GNU is less common on phones. Anyway, Linux is a kernel, WebOS/Android/Mameo is an OS.Oct 21 09:28
schestowitz*MaemoOct 21 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Starbucks Launches Digital Network, Exclusive Content with Your Free WiFi (and Oh Yeah, Coffee) - http://rww.to/dy99lp true to its rootsOct 21 09:32
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MinceRno, those are three OS-es :>Oct 21 09:36
MinceRalso, malware in Trash for winblows confirmed. and there's not even opt-out from it.Oct 21 09:36
schestowitzWindows in Windows' trash?Oct 21 09:37
schestowitzdrag c:\windows to itOct 21 09:38
MinceRcan't, it isn't my pcOct 21 09:38
gnufreexschestowitz: How come Lefty claims he is FSFE "felow" ? Why they don't kick him out?Oct 21 09:38
MinceRr4wrOct 21 09:38
schestowitzhe paidOct 21 09:39
schestowitz"Fellow"Oct 21 09:39
schestowitzCHAIR FOR SALEOct 21 09:39
schestowitzLike in GNOMEOct 21 09:39
schestowitzIt's like lobbyingOct 21 09:39
schestowitzYou pay to buy a maskOct 21 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] License Compliance: Not An Open Source Issue - http://bit.ly/aBbCEN interesting discussion #opensource #licencesOct 21 09:39
gnufreexAha... I thought it is a title.Oct 21 09:39
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MinceRdidn't he bash FSF?Oct 21 09:39
schestowitzNot FSFEOct 21 09:40
gnufreexBut they should kick him out anyways, they don't need money from dirtbags like him.Oct 21 09:40
MinceRso Captain Dildo thinks the FSFE is different from the FSF?Oct 21 09:40
schestowitzBut another mobbyist bashes FSFE tooOct 21 09:40
schestowitzMinceR: noOct 21 09:40
schestowitzDivide and conquerOct 21 09:40
schestowitzYou take a groupOct 21 09:40
MinceRlol, good luck with thatOct 21 09:40
schestowitzYou then take one virtual sideOct 21 09:41
schestowitzAnd you incite it against the otherOct 21 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jammie Thomas' third P2P trial looms; RIAA complains about cost - http://bit.ly/9CRpa7 my heart bleeds for poor little RIAA #bulliesOct 21 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Two things I need to get: an #OLPC and a #WikiReader.Oct 21 09:41
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schestowitzDone in some Linux forums too, by trollsOct 21 09:41
schestowitzOSI and FSFOct 21 09:41
schestowitz"Again, source. Most smartphones aren't running GNU/Linux; they're running Android (no GNU userland). Learn the difference." http://identi.ca/conversation/56525581#notice-57072256Oct 21 09:42
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schestowitz"Yes WebOS/Android/Maemo are operating systems, which Linus had no part of. Linux is useless on its own, Linus didn't make an OS"Oct 21 09:42
schestowitz"Not viewing in context? This article: http://ur1.ca/24sdc third paragraph."Oct 21 09:43
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schestowitz"He released the operating system (OS) "Oct 21 09:43
schestowitzHehOct 21 09:43
schestowitz"@jacobwb They should have said "platform". Linus created a kernel and version management. //cc @linuxfoundation"Oct 21 09:45
schestowitzWell, commits tooOct 21 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @schestowitz Well, commits tooOct 21 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/10/2010: !Linux 2.6.36 is Out, Red Hat's CEO Says Software Vendor Model is Broken http://ur1.ca/24y6w !techrightsOct 21 09:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 21/10/2010: Linux 2.6.36 is Out, Red Hats CEO Says Software Vendor Model is Broken | Techrights .::. Size~: 176.16 KBOct 21 09:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: You should probably add me to identica reallyOct 21 09:48
schestowitzI didOct 21 09:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: and add me to the thing here, and I have had that name for a while :)Oct 21 09:48
schestowitzYesterdayOct 21 09:48
schestowitzYou didn't notice, did you? :-)Oct 21 09:49
schestowitzBruce pinged you, so I sawOct 21 09:49
sebsebsebneed to see idnetica stuff againOct 21 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @jaegerandi: LibreOffice packages from @docufoundation have been added to #openSUSE FactoryOct 21 09:49
schestowitzIt shows replies only to other people in the list and original items tooOct 21 09:49
sebsebseboriginal items?Oct 21 09:50
*sebsebseb Am I really going to the doctor today, thinking, well its boooked, but I am getting better now it seems.Oct 21 09:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah thats something I could have sent on identica even ^Oct 21 09:53
MinceRalso, mozilla linked me to that malware-laden installer on upgrade -- perhaps i should look into other browsers nowOct 21 09:54
MinceRthen again, chrome ships with trash too, maybe that installs this malware too?Oct 21 09:54
sebsebsebMinceR: malware  Mozilla installer what?Oct 21 09:54
MinceRsebsebseb: firefox for winblows upgraded itself and popped up a window about the upgrade, which also warned me to upgrade trash and had a link to this add-on based malware installerOct 21 09:55
sebsebsebMinceR: wellOct 21 09:56
sebsebsebFriefox can get targeted by malware as well you knowOct 21 09:56
sebsebsebalso you were on WIndows, so I guess you get what you deserved in a way (half joking)Oct 21 09:56
MinceRyes, but usually firefox doesn't link to the malware installer on an automatically popped up official webpageOct 21 09:59
MinceRwith the intent of installing malware on the user's computerOct 21 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Something to !Flattr https://flattr.com/thing/5649/Torservers-net-Fund-Tor-exit-node-bandwidthOct 21 09:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Torservers.net - Fund Tor exit node bandwidth - by mb - flattr.com .::. Size~: 13.58 KBOct 21 09:59
sebsebsebhmm am I really going to this doctors apoitment I fel quite a lot beter nowOct 21 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Work? - http://bit.ly/alpSe3 important question in a world of free digital stuff #work #abundanceOct 21 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: QUOTES:  Why Work? - Global Guerrillas .::. Size~: 60.19 KBOct 21 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] !lpit LibrePlanet Italia al GNU/Linux day di Lucca. @coltem terra' un intervento. Passate parola. http://ur1.ca/24yjmOct 21 10:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNU/Linux Day Lucca (definitivo)  Altertux-blog .::. Size~: 29.52 KBOct 21 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NCAR analysis warns we risk multiple, devastating global droughts even on moderate emissions path - http://bit.ly/bP2W15 #russia big winnerOct 21 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: Why Work? - http://bit.ly/alpSe3 important question in a world of free digital stuff #work #abundance <! new, but important QOct 21 10:07
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: QUOTES:  Why Work? - Global Guerrillas .::. Size~: 60.19 KBOct 21 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] RT @thepiratenation To the Governments of the World http://ur1.ca/24ypx #tpn #anon #nwo #censorshipOct 21 10:12
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schestowitztrolls: http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202472798134&Patent_Litigation_Weekly_NPE_Makes_Offer_Some_Companies_emCANem_RefuseOct 21 10:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] F-Droid Repository Alpha possible candidate for !replicant repo: http://f-droid.org/posts/f-droid-repository-alpha/Oct 21 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @popey: Apple launches launchpad, which is already a Canonical trademark. Fun. https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/664107Oct 21 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug #664107 in Launchpad itself: “Launchpad trademark” .::. Size~: 27.43 KBOct 21 10:34
schestowitz“We gotta have someone to blame for all our screw-ups, so let’s start a war against that imaginary foe.” http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security-threats/2010/10/14/chertoff-advocates-cyber-cold-war-40090538/Oct 21 10:39
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sebsebsebMinceR: maybe phising siteOct 21 10:41
iantosebsebseb: You would be so proud if you saw me right now ;)Oct 21 10:43
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schestowitzNew theme in Sutor's blog... http://www.sutor.com/c/sutor-resume/Oct 21 10:48
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schestowitzhttp://www.sutor.com/c/2010/10/debugging-the-new-theme/Oct 21 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !google !chrome 7 released !linux http://chrome.blogspot.com/2010/10/bringing-another-chrome-release-to-you.htmlOct 21 10:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @yamatt @methoddan you should never have hereos you should always aim to be better than them :)Oct 21 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Just subscribed to #foursquare. Cool-ish. At least *I* decide to say where I am and when.Oct 21 10:59
schestowitzhttp://greve.posterous.com/winter-seems-a-lot-more-appealing-all-of-a-suOct 21 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] !lca2011 presents our highly respected fourth keynote speaker; Vinton G. Cerf - Father of the Internet! http://cli.gs/lca2011VintCerfOct 21 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sarkozy exporte l'Internet répressif [fr] - http://bit.ly/9bs7O5 nasty, very nasty #hadopi #gallo #sarkozy #franceOct 21 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] if this is Apple with 20% of US market, how would they behave with 80%? leveraging above their own weight atm.Oct 21 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Rise Of A New Intellectual Property Category, Ripe For Trolling: Publicity Rights - http://bit.ly/9y6lao oh, great; not #publicityOct 21 11:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Rise Of A New Intellectual Property Category, Ripe For Trolling: Publicity Rights | Techdirt .::. Size~: 23.11 KBOct 21 11:07
gnufreexTPM bashes Red Hat a little. Whitehurst led Delta out of bancrupcy, and TPM says "Delta was in bancrupcy during Witherhurst's tenure" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/20/interop_whitehurst_gibson/Oct 21 11:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat exec proposes end to IT suckage • The Register .::. Size~: 26.29 KBOct 21 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Resumption of the crypto wars? - http://bit.ly/bEvE7w "This doesn’t bode well, either for civil liberties or for national security." #cryptoOct 21 11:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] if you have more than 1 !android phone, how does chrome2phone / fox2phone work, do all devices get message?Oct 21 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Resumption of the crypto wars? - http://goo.gl/O6NR "This doesn’t bode well, either for civil liberties or for national s (via @glynmoody)Oct 21 11:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Light Blue Touchpaper  » Blog Archive   » Resumption of the crypto wars? .::. Size~: 10.62 KBOct 21 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] FossAlliance, more than expertise, better than a network: http://ur1.ca/250frOct 21 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @glynmoody I don't follow how this new plan wil even work. Surely bad guys use end to end encryption like Waste? http://goo.gl/i6q4Oct 21 11:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moved by Freedom  Powered by Standards » FossAlliance is born: More than expertise, better than a network .::. Size~: 38.47 KBOct 21 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sarkozy Exports Repressive Internet [.uk] - http://bit.ly/9u0QFE (English translation of earlier post about outrageous moves from #sarko)Oct 21 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @carlopiana @rcarreras This the Spanish border language right?Oct 21 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @silner I think the argument is they want to track the "socail nws", not content (how modish...)Oct 21 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @mattl is there a reason why you refuse to change the replicant uri to the correct one? http://ur1.ca/250htOct 21 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @charlesschulz: FossAlliance, more than expertise, better than a network: http://ur1.ca/250frOct 21 11:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free software for Android &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 27.19 KBOct 21 11:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @glynmoody Ah rightOct 21 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] L'hémorragie continue au sein d'OpenOffice.org: http://ur1.ca/24qzr #openoffice #libreoffice #docufoundation #communityOct 21 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @DaHammerstein "Private copy levy" on reproduction media ruled illegal by European Court of Justice against.es collecting soc #copyrightOct 21 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ffii/@ffii] @schestowitz She is a Canadian politician?Oct 21 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Libre Office Talk in the University of Limerick - http://ur1.ca/250l0 (via @czajkowski)Oct 21 11:34
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schestowitzhttp://mashable.com/2010/10/18/steve-jobs-apple-call/ Candidly?Oct 21 11:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wonder what !Debian will do about !Libreoffice? They'll want to Freedom, but they'll want the stability of the established application tooOct 21 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Bill Clinton 'lost vital White House nuclear codes'" http://is.gd/gb0rn #oopsOct 21 11:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Flight #JFK to #SLC, en route to #SJC for #Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit & a visit w/ @jra beforehand. Maybe some !poker at #Bay101.Oct 21 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I see they've pushed out Opera 11 Alpha, the new version with the extensions http://goo.gl/K5jR !operafansOct 21 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] More than redundancy, I care more for unlimited storage (encrypted, please), and am against the delete button. Who do I petition?Oct 21 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @bkuhn In a GPL enforcement, do you consider .config files part of "the scripts used to control compilation [...] of the executable"?Oct 21 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @bkuhn GPLv2 that is.Oct 21 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Member of largest supermarket chain in Italy hosts !Linux presentation http://stop.zona-m.net/node/203 "next Saturday in Bologna, Italy."Oct 21 12:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @wb8rcr: @jwildeboer You really couldn't expect him to keep track of those silly codes AND the White House interns. | #ROTFLOct 21 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oracle, OpenOffice.org, LibreOffice - http://bit.ly/cNKf0H more thoughts on the matter #openoffice #libreoffice #oracleOct 21 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Discours sur la relation entre normes et #brevets à l’OMPI, SCP/15 http://is.gd/gb2OZ par @karsten@identi.ca @kgerloff @fsfeOct 21 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] seems WL's alive RD @wikileaks Major WikiLeaks press conference in europe coming up; to book [press/NGO only], mail sunshine.booking@mail.beOct 21 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] And also http://sorgenia-spa.com is back where it belongs (the legitimate TM holder!) :-)Oct 21 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] !Wikimedia's @suegardner is going to be in Dubia in December meeting Arab contributors. That's very nice. !Wikipedia !arwikipediaOct 21 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is it time to take Anonymous seriously? - http://bit.ly/aTZSMT "perhaps cyber-vigilantes will become more emboldened & widen objectives"Oct 21 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FossAlliance is landing! - http://bit.ly/cZI0kn "to provide expert consulting in business and legal matters" #freesw #opensourceOct 21 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] openbittorrent.com tracker #is_downOct 21 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Internally, the TCS3502 includes an Atmel ATC97SC3203 TPM (trusted platform module)" http://ur1.ca/250zq is this a feature?Oct 21 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @osamak, Yes. In fact, I can't thing of a case where a .config is *not* part of the !GPLv2 "scripts to control compilation & installation".Oct 21 12:34
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schestowitz"Too Much Jobs Worship"Oct 21 12:39
schestowitz"Oct 21 12:39
schestowitzI read the Article.Oct 21 12:39
schestowitzWow! it reads like Hero Worship.Oct 21 12:39
schestowitzNo one could possible really live up to that much syrupy praise. The flattery is really intense.Oct 21 12:39
schestowitzIt reminded me of why I don't like Rush Limbaugh. He's right more often than he is wrong, but he's just too full of himself.Oct 21 12:39
schestowitzDon't bother reading it.Oct 21 12:39
schestowitz"Oct 21 12:39
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-10-20-006-35-IN-AP-0000 http://www.cultofmac.com/john-sculley-on-steve-jobs-the-full-interview-transcript/63295Oct 21 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! Looks like the Canonical lawyers just woke up.... :DOct 21 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Brian Proffitt describes a world that Steve Jobs doesn't believe in: The Quiet Rise of Linux Tablets http://goo.gl/mLNGOct 21 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems #TheSteve and #TheSteveOfLinux are best buddies now. They even use the same names for features - #Launchpad http://is.gd/gb552 #FTWOct 21 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Clearly, not all endangered species are photogenic http://goo.gl/GoUZOct 21 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh Canonical GC is a good friend of mine, and she's Scottish, mind that! ;-) #publicthreatsOct 21 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana LOL. She sure could use some Launchpad training. But I see @popey is on the case.... ;)Oct 21 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This http://is.gd/gb5Jk totally reminds me of the time we were cutting holes in 5 1/4" floppies to use them doublesided #FTWOct 21 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] So is Apple actually marketing that an App can take full screen, w/o annoying top bar? http://ur1.ca/25141 Sounds like pleading guilty 2meOct 21 12:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What would be a good suggestion to a web controlled media player for !Fedora !Linux?Oct 21 13:01
schestowitzgnufreex: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/28008804603Oct 21 13:04
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gnufreexschestowitz: What is he talking about?Oct 21 13:05
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/28009309091Oct 21 13:05
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schestowitzCalling all Linux sites shillsOct 21 13:05
schestowitzLOLOct 21 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Note to crawler maintainers: if your link to details 404s and you have no contact email, even if it's a good crawler IT HAS TO DIE.Oct 21 13:06
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/content/poor-and-popularOct 21 13:07
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gnufreexschestowitz: I saw his twitter disscusion with Jan Wildeboer.Oct 21 13:10
schestowitzgnufreex: he's replying to meOct 21 13:10
schestowitzWithout naming techrightsOct 21 13:10
gnufreexWho?Oct 21 13:10
schestowitzEIF lobbyistsOct 21 13:10
gnufreexFlorian?Oct 21 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-21: Every email and website to be stored "Every email, phone call and website visit is to be re... http://bit.ly/croq3hOct 21 13:11
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gnufreexFlorian lies about OpenJDK patent grant and about Red Hat paying firestar. He picked PJ's quote that suits him, tore out of context and now says how PJ agrees that RAND works with GPL. But what Red Hat paid to firestar was not royalty. It is one time payment for indemifying practicaly whole FLOSS community.Oct 21 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How does a #mobbyist justify to himself being a shill for Microsoft re EIF? He justifies it to himself by calling everyone else shills.Oct 21 13:12
gnufreex8 milon dolars, IIRCOct 21 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How does a neo-con Republicans booster live with him/herself? Self delusion about saving the US from "Marxism" or "Muslim" presidentOct 21 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I recall people dismissing Boycott Novell using a new label "Novell haters". The word "hate" implies irrationality, radicalism...Oct 21 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Zona-M: How to automatically print or convert to PDF, MS Office or other formats OpenDocument files http://goo.gl/3cAaOct 21 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We now see new concepts like "IBM shill", "Google shill", "Freetards", etc. So all opposition to Microsoft interests is insane of bribed?Oct 21 13:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to automatically print or convert to PDF, MS Office or other formats OpenDocument files | Free Software tips and tricks at Zona-M .::. Size~: 16.94 KBOct 21 13:19
MinceRschestowitz: "resistance is futile" ;)Oct 21 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Arriving in #DUS for !Fsfe office meetingOct 21 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Register: Intel broaches fresh barrel-o-Linux http://goo.gl/GEZTOct 21 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] S/o leaked the Apple App Store review Guidelines for the MacOS App Store. And you thought China was scary? http://pastie.org/1236378Oct 21 13:29
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dyfetHeres a fun story....Apple OS/X app store requirements leaked: http://pastie.org/1236378Oct 21 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Apps that use deprecated or optionally installed technologies (e.g., Java, Rosetta) will be rejected" - Apple and Java, #nomoreOct 21 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Transiki? - http://bit.ly/axfESv "Transiki (will) look a lot like #openstreetmap. Instead of ways, you have #transit routes." #osmOct 21 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Apps that use location-based APIs for dispatch, fleet management, or emergency services will be rejected" no life-saving app allowed? #failOct 21 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Apple zealots ignore the bad news - http://ur1.ca/251f7 http://ur1.ca/18202 http://ur1.ca/251f8 #mobbyist #idiot @leftyOct 21 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Winamp for Android is here, and it rocks - http://bit.ly/9yFPB1 wow, a blast from the past #winamp #androidOct 21 13:36
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gnufreexschestowitz: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/28017120697Oct 21 13:38
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dyfet_I've been forked...Oct 21 13:38
gnufreexdyfet_ kill9 itOct 21 13:38
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gnufreexis this real dyfet now?Oct 21 13:40
dyfetYes :)Oct 21 13:40
schestowitzdyfet: better than being knifed  or spoonedOct 21 13:40
gnufreexOr axedOct 21 13:41
schestowitzsome person tried taking over my freenode handleOct 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/10/2010: Tinycore 3.2, WebOS 2.0 http://techrights.org/2010/10/21/webos-2-0/Oct 21 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Do you ever feel like a loser scouring daily irc logs for dirt on people because you have no life? @lefty #mobbyist #loserOct 21 13:41
gnufreexreally?Oct 21 13:41
schestowitzI wonder what he would have done if s/he succeededOct 21 13:41
dyfetI see Jan (Wildeboer) has been busy with that link I gave him :)Oct 21 13:41
gnufreexHe would probably spread some nonsense and then link to lefty's blog.Oct 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Been in NPO management too long. Sometimes, #IRC autoexpands in my mind to Internal Revenue Code,not Internet Relay Chat #namespacecollisionOct 21 13:42
gnufreexboycott-boycottNovell needs to create evidence because they lack any. Like for example trolling me and then claiming I initiated campaign against Apple.Oct 21 13:43
gnufreexpublish that, wrongy.Oct 21 13:43
gnufreex(I know he reads logs)Oct 21 13:44
dyfetI doubt accuracy is their goal...Oct 21 13:44
gnufreexLefty is called lefty because he is always wrong.Oct 21 13:44
MinceR:>Oct 21 13:44
gnufreexBetter call him wrongyOct 21 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @carlopiana surely it was a hoax. An easy way to prevent the medical industry from suffering as the rest of the economy did. ;-)Oct 21 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Linux kernel 2.6.36 released http://h-online.com/-1122435 What's new in Linux 2.6.36 http://h-online.com/-1103009 #linux #kernel #2636Oct 21 13:46
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schestowitzgnufreex: roguey?Oct 21 13:46
schestowitzAnyway, time to make some techrights postsOct 21 13:46
schestowitzBeen a day..Oct 21 13:46
gnufreexschestowitz: I meant as in wrong.Oct 21 13:47
gnufreexHe is never right, so lefty.Oct 21 13:47
dyfettechwronger? ;)Oct 21 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Today: Open Your World webcast with Joseph Reagle, author of Good Faith Collaboration--You can still register. http://bit.ly/cmjrS3 #oywOct 21 13:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @graziano http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.htmlOct 21 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] What's new in #linux #kernel 2.6.36: http://h-online.com/-1103009 (English @kernellog2) http://heise.de/-1102066 (German @kernellog) #2636Oct 21 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer S/o leaked the Apple App Store review Guidelines for the MacOS App Store. And you thought China was scary? http://pastie. ...Oct 21 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer S/o leaked the Apple App Store review Guidelines for the MacOS App Store. And you thought China was scary? http://pastie. ...Oct 21 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody The Jedi are right after all. :-) May the Force be with you!Oct 21 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jwildeboer S/o leaked the Apple App Store review Guidelines for the MacOS App Store. And you thought China was scary? http://pastie. ...Oct 21 13:57
MinceRdoes anyone remember the link about dumbfuckbook having started with fake users?Oct 21 13:58
schestowitzI read on Wikipedia IIRCOct 21 14:08
schestowitzLet me do some searchesOct 21 14:08
schestowitzMinceR: it's not where I read itOct 21 14:09
schestowitzBut here are some keywords for searchOct 21 14:09
gnufreexLol, I just now got that Shuttleworth is #TheSteveOfLinux. lolOct 21 14:09
schestowitzFind out why the university reprimanded or almost kicked himOct 21 14:09
schestowitzThat's a good point to startOct 21 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Wish Paddy and Nobby would've gotten to play against R**ney http://www.patcrerand.co.uk/news/rooney-statement/850 !mufcOct 21 14:09
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schestowitzThen, find out how he got student databaseOct 21 14:09
schestowitzAnd under what circumstances he removed theseOct 21 14:09
MinceRicOct 21 14:09
schestowitzmaybe I read something fabricatedOct 21 14:09
schestowitzBut I doubt that, it seemed credible at the timeOct 21 14:10
schestowitzWe should do a post about it if it's verifiedOct 21 14:10
gnufreexI am rereading this Florian comments, and it sounds more and more crazy every time I read it.Oct 21 14:13
gnufreexFor example http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/27933777852Oct 21 14:14
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gnufreexhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/27933724389Oct 21 14:14
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gnufreexCraze doesn't stop.Oct 21 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Setting my egg timer for countdown to next "political radical" telling me why Free Software should fail on his terms rather than succeed...Oct 21 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Apparently my New Vegas review copy has shipped. Expect an !LO review special in the future. :)Oct 21 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How #Mono Helps !Microsoft DirectX, With Contribution From VMB_ware http://ur1.ca/251vq #vmware #suse #opensuse #swpatsOct 21 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @tamasrepus: Winamp for !Android Beta released. Has a wireless sync feature of some sort http://ur1.ca/251reOct 21 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Uhm !gentoo's default login PAM configuration was hosed for the past two years because somebody reverted my changes ;_;Oct 21 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Ask your favorite distro to become fully free: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html !fsf !gnu !lp !linuxOct 21 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I do wish Blender wouldn't use this NC-ND musician for their scores - http://www.sintel.org/news/complete-score-available-for-download/Oct 21 14:36
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gnufreexnenolod: Ping. I need to ask you something.Oct 21 14:36
nenolodgo awayOct 21 14:36
nenolodi mean hiOct 21 14:37
gnufreexokOct 21 14:37
nenolodwhat's up?Oct 21 14:37
gnufreexForget it.Oct 21 14:39
nenolodno, really, what's up?Oct 21 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, can you give a URL of the #Canonical #Launchpad ticket in question that you are commenting on here? I don't see it in dent thread.Oct 21 14:39
gnufreexWe had disscusion the other day, I got connection problem at this point http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/irc-log-techrights-17102010.html#tOct%2017%2009:42:55Oct 21 14:40
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oiaohmhttp://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopardUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010380-CH4-SW1Oct 21 14:40
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oiaohmAnother from the apache camp of java bites the dust.Oct 21 14:40
gnufreexnenolod: I didn't see anything affter that.Oct 21 14:40
gnufreexUntil now.Oct 21 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @bkuhn https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/664107Oct 21 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] I was right: Trademarks CAN make software non-free. http://ur1.ca/mo4b #mozilla #firefox i'm looking at you!Oct 21 14:41
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gnufreexThank you for calling me moron. That is what I had to say.Oct 21 14:43
nenolodyou're certainly welcome!Oct 21 14:43
nenolodby the wayOct 21 14:44
nenolodthere was marketing!Oct 21 14:44
nenoloder, there was a marketing study done!Oct 21 14:44
nenolod1960 to presentOct 21 14:44
nenolodguess whatOct 21 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @jwildeboer @fabsh, Wow, bonus points: (a) full-quote top-reply,(b) .sig longer than comment,(c) no .sig separator,(d) .sig above top-reply.Oct 21 14:44
nenolodi'm right!Oct 21 14:44
nenolodpositive marketing is more effective than attack marketingOct 21 14:44
gnufreexHow do you do positive marketing against something that is out to kill you?Oct 21 14:45
nenolodi don't know, you should ask al qaedaOct 21 14:45
MinceRyou do positive marketing for yourself, don't youOct 21 14:45
MinceR?Oct 21 14:45
nenolodapparently they have some magazine out nowOct 21 14:45
MinceRand this doesn't seem to exclude doing attack marketing against your enemiesOct 21 14:45
gnufreexBy making better thing that is more efficietive in killing you?Oct 21 14:45
gnufreexAnd then advertising that?Oct 21 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Patent Colonisation: #EPO Promotes Machine Translation, New Zealand Still Resistant http://ur1.ca/2526q #USPTO #swpats #nzOct 21 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana @kaz @copiesofcopies, I suppose it's a moment to say I'm glad lawyers exist who know how long a .sig should be & don't top-reply.Oct 21 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Performance Impact Of Ubuntu's Wubi Windows Installer: Being developed since 2007 and integrated in Ubuntu sin... http://bit.ly/c6iRGAOct 21 14:46
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nenolodi don't think that is a valid argumentOct 21 14:46
nenolodfirstly, mono isn't out to kill anybodyOct 21 14:47
gnufreexNo, most valid argument is to call me idiot for saying that haters will hate anyway. You reject mono, they will hate. You accept it, they will laugh and hate and then laugh when you get in trouble.Oct 21 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @mattl we did that to provide a nicer to remember uri with a more efficient tool to spread news about the !replicant project.Oct 21 14:47
oiaohmnenolod: Define kill.Oct 21 14:48
oiaohmHow many patents does the open source have to be bitten by before we learn better.Oct 21 14:48
oiaohmRemember MP3 then FAT now TFAT ...  List goes on.Oct 21 14:49
MinceRmono is a tool, a trojan horseOct 21 14:49
oiaohmMono legal paper work is not in order.  nenolodOct 21 14:49
oiaohmMono lead developer promised us a legal clear verison.Oct 21 14:49
MinceRm$ is using it in an attempt to kill gnu/linuxOct 21 14:49
oiaohmIt still missing in action.Oct 21 14:50
MinceRit will forever be missing in actionOct 21 14:50
gnufreexyes, de Icaza don't want to make ECMA-only Mono distributionOct 21 14:50
gnufreexBecause it would show how litle is standardizedOct 21 14:50
oiaohmHe promised it.  gnufreexOct 21 14:50
gnufreexAnd how much is grayOct 21 14:50
MinceRand m$ doesn't want to grant a real patent licenseOct 21 14:50
oiaohmDon't promise and then not deliver.Oct 21 14:51
gnufreexoiaohm: I know he promisedOct 21 14:51
gnufreexBut he wond do it.Oct 21 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz I don't think NZ is gonna move on this. I said this before, but the USA has nothing to offer them.Oct 21 14:51
oiaohmList of things mono lead developer has done wrong is just growing and growing.  nenolodOct 21 14:51
gnufreexBecause he now can say "most is standardized, rest is irrelevant". IOct 21 14:51
oiaohmheck he started off promising that .net would out perform C++Oct 21 14:51
gnufreexIf he makes ECMA-only distro, then it will show how closed .NET really is.Oct 21 14:52
oiaohmDue to complier improvements in the Gcc side that is turned up untrue.Oct 21 14:52
oiaohmBasically why should be trust a project lead by a person who will not keep there word.  nenolodOct 21 14:52
oiaohmIf it will not keep his word how far is he prepared to go.Oct 21 14:53
oiaohmIs de Icaza another person like the Inventor of MP3.Oct 21 14:53
gnufreexDe Icaza doesn't compete against Microsoft, he comepetes for Microsoft. If he removes non-standard parts, then he is not competing for Microsoft.Oct 21 14:54
oiaohmIe give it away for free once we start using it hit us with patents.Oct 21 14:54
gnufreexIt is like COM and COM+ issue.Oct 21 14:54
gnufreexWait tll I finda that quote...Oct 21 14:54
dyfetoiaohm: I think his actions speak clearly...or as gnufreex said :)Oct 21 14:54
oiaohmdyfet: his actions speak clearly as a threat.Oct 21 14:56
oiaohmBasically most of my issue with mono has nothing todo with .net as a language.Oct 21 14:57
oiaohmPure management of project being done wrong.Oct 21 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @graziano: Ask your favorite distro to become fully free: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.htmlOct 21 14:57
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oiaohmIts like apache harmony that is ending in tears.Oct 21 14:58
oiaohmThe writing has been on the walk for Harmony for years.Oct 21 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @graziano that's a good thing, so just make your old URL point to your new one, and there's no problem.Oct 21 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @mairin I've encountered people who had problems because of wedding photo orphan works. Get the images as work for hire at a fair price.Oct 21 14:59
oiaohmwalk/wallOct 21 14:59
gnufreexI am searching for a quote on The-Source site.Oct 21 14:59
oiaohmLose of IBM and Apple support is basically going to leave Harmony without a major company backing.Oct 21 15:00
MinceRso what?Oct 21 15:00
oiaohmReally biggest thing effected will be android.Oct 21 15:01
MinceRgnu and linux both took off nicely without major companies backing them until they got good enough to get the interest of such companiesOct 21 15:01
oiaohmReally not true.  MinceROct 21 15:01
MinceRwhat i'm more worried about is what happens to java users with relation to patents on java owned by ibm, m$ and othersOct 21 15:01
gnufreexMinceR: Oracle can shake down every user of harmony for patents if they win Google case.Oct 21 15:01
MinceRthat's not the same as "without a major company backing"Oct 21 15:01
oiaohmMinceR:  simple fact most people don't use harmony.Oct 21 15:02
MinceRthat's "a major company attacking"Oct 21 15:02
dyfetVictory is when the users win, not when a specific project or company does...victory is freedomOct 21 15:02
oiaohmMost use Sun/Orcale based java or a blood releations off openjdk.  MinceROct 21 15:02
gnufreexThat is the problem, Harmony is not started because of freedom. It was started because of IBM's intrerests.Oct 21 15:02
MinceRoiaohm: openjdk isn't going to help you against patents owned by non-contributors or non-oracle (not sure which)Oct 21 15:03
nenolodactually, MS-PL is GPL3Oct 21 15:03
MinceRthat's why i'm mentioning ibm and m$ (maybe others)Oct 21 15:03
nenolodwhich would indicate a patent exceptionOct 21 15:03
nenolodwell, GPL3 compatibleOct 21 15:03
gnufreexGNU Classpath existed then. And year affter, Sun opensourced Java. So Harmony should be stoped then, and merged to OpenJDK.Oct 21 15:03
oiaohmMinceR: Nice myth.  Other than the fact IBM directly use openjdk along with tothers.Oct 21 15:03
oiaohmAttacking OpenJDK is not what you call a safe game.Oct 21 15:04
gnufreexnenolod: MS-PL is not GPLv3 compatibOct 21 15:04
gnufreexleOct 21 15:04
MinceRoiaohm: what about attacking code derived from openjdk?Oct 21 15:04
gnufreexMinceR: Simple, that would be suicide for Oracle.Oct 21 15:04
oiaohmAgain what do you think IBM does with openjdk in recent years.Oct 21 15:04
MinceRgnufreex: please elaborateOct 21 15:05
oiaohmMinceR: attacking openjdk is opening pandoras box.Oct 21 15:05
oiaohmTo many companies have been using ti.Oct 21 15:05
MinceRoiaohm: ibm owns a fuckton of patents too, just like oracle. but an ordinary java user doesn't.Oct 21 15:05
oiaohmAnd it has the core patents.Oct 21 15:05
gnufreexYou release code under GPL, you can't attack users. MinceROct 21 15:05
gnufreexOpenJDK is distributed by Oracle.Oct 21 15:05
gnufreexSo they are give irrevocable patent grant.Oct 21 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @mairin How about if the photographer gave you the photos under CC-BY or CC-BY-SA?Oct 21 15:06
oiaohmTo be correct OpenJDK will be join distributed in future.Oct 21 15:06
oiaohmIBM and OrcaleOct 21 15:06
oiaohmDo you fell lucky punk.Oct 21 15:06
MinceRwhat if m$ and oracle have a non-codified agreement not to attack each others' clients, but not about others?Oct 21 15:06
gnufreexoiaohm: That is even better.Oct 21 15:06
oiaohmThe agreement between SUN and MS expires is a few years.Oct 21 15:07
oiaohmMS cannot currently attack java.Oct 21 15:07
oiaohmAnd Oracle cannot attack .netOct 21 15:07
MinceRwhy?Oct 21 15:07
oiaohmBut once the deal expires.Oct 21 15:07
MinceRah, they have a dealOct 21 15:07
oiaohmThere was 5 year deal done with sun.Oct 21 15:07
gnufreexMinceR: If you use OpenJDK or any of the forks, you are protected from Oracle and other contributors. You are not protected from Microsoft, though.Oct 21 15:07
MinceRgnufreex: that's what i'm thinking tooOct 21 15:07
MinceRgnufreex: and it's scary.Oct 21 15:07
oiaohmReally remember if you are using unaltered OpenJDKOct 21 15:08
oiaohmFrom Redhat IBM or OrcaleOct 21 15:08
gnufreexoiaohm: Modified too.Oct 21 15:08
MinceRbeing restricted to "unaltered OpenJDK" is not free softwareOct 21 15:08
oiaohmYou are protected under java protection agreement.Oct 21 15:08
gnufreexEvery derivative work is protected in US.Oct 21 15:09
oiaohmIf you become a offical registered TCK person.Oct 21 15:09
oiaohmAs you can do as a individual for free.Oct 21 15:09
oiaohmYou also come under the same protection shield for altered versions.Oct 21 15:09
gnufreexNo, you are protected by GPLOct 21 15:09
oiaohmFor a company 3000 USD gives you the protection sheilds.Oct 21 15:09
gnufreexGPLv2 has implict patent grant.Oct 21 15:09
nenolodgnufreex: wrong. only under GPLv3.Oct 21 15:09
nenolodGPLv2's patent grant is not strong enoughOct 21 15:10
oiaohmGPLv2 patent grant has never been tested in court.  nenolodOct 21 15:10
nenolodhey, eben is a smart dudeOct 21 15:10
nenolodhe wouldn't have rewritten that grantOct 21 15:10
gnufreexNo, v2 has implict patent grant that is strong enough in US. It is not strong enough for all countries that have patents, as legal practices are different.Oct 21 15:10
oiaohmSo how strong it is unknown.Oct 21 15:10
nenolodif it was strong enoughOct 21 15:10
oiaohmGPLv3 was rewriten so Judge has no wiggle room.  nenolodOct 21 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Awesome Site: #Creators' #Freedom Project with the intention to "help independent artists make a living" !lp http://creatorsfreedom.org/Oct 21 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Eight Epic Failures of Regulating Cryptography https://eff.org/r.2tzOct 21 15:11
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oiaohmTest case could make GPLv2 as strong a GPLv3Oct 21 15:11
oiaohmDue to defining the implied.Oct 21 15:11
oiaohmBasically GPLv2 is only suspected as patent weak not proven as such.Oct 21 15:12
gnufreexGPL was rewriten for thing that walks like a patent deal and quacks like a patent deal, but it is not called that way. ie, Microsoft - novellOct 21 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Eight Epic Failures of Regulating Cryptography https://eff.org/r.2tzOct 21 15:12
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oiaohmEven so what Novell Microsoft did might be a breach of GPLv2 as well.Oct 21 15:12
MinceRbut does it work if there's no deal as such, just an informal common understanding of shared goals (or personal discussions between CEOs)?Oct 21 15:13
oiaohmLegal unknowns.Oct 21 15:13
dyfetThat is what Sherman was for....Oct 21 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: Awesome Site: Creators' Freedom Project with the intention to "help independent artists make a living" ur1.ca/252fjOct 21 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Matt Zimmerman: Looking forward to #UDS for !Ubuntu 11.04 #Natty Narwhal http://goo.gl/axn6Oct 21 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] "Squirrels are rats with better PR." Read this twice in as many days, which in the age of Wikipedia is one time too many to be the truth.Oct 21 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @robmyers can they give the CC license only to me and no one else? I mean, i don't want anybody having it..Oct 21 15:17
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nenolodwowOct 21 15:20
nenolodthey took all of my garbageOct 21 15:20
gnufreexWho?Oct 21 15:20
nenolodthe garbage guysOct 21 15:20
gnufreexlolOct 21 15:20
nenolodi had like 20 bags of crapOct 21 15:20
oiaohmAnd that is strange.Oct 21 15:21
nenolodmost of it old PC crap from the 1990sOct 21 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @mairin They could, yes. But then you'd have to not give them to anyone else. Which you probably don't want. Assignment would be better.Oct 21 15:21
oiaohmOk old PC I would have called the metal recyclers.Oct 21 15:21
nenolodwell it was circuit boardsOct 21 15:21
oiaohm20 dollars a ton.Oct 21 15:21
oiaohmof circuit boards min.Oct 21 15:21
nenolodman, i remember the old PC cases tooOct 21 15:22
nenolodthey were a lot stronger than the ones made todayOct 21 15:22
oiaohm?????Oct 21 15:22
oiaohmThee are some great cases today.Oct 21 15:22
nenolodthere areOct 21 15:22
oiaohmIf you spend the money.Oct 21 15:22
nenolodi have a lian li aluminum one that does a good jobOct 21 15:22
oiaohmTitaimumOct 21 15:22
nenolodbut like the average off the shelf PC, it's all plasticOct 21 15:23
oiaohmand magnisiam aloysOct 21 15:23
oiaohmBuggers are basically unbreakable.Oct 21 15:23
nenolodi dropped an old P133 on my foot and broke a toe when i was 12Oct 21 15:23
oiaohmI deal in server class cases.Oct 21 15:23
oiaohmSome of those will still break foot.Oct 21 15:23
oiaohmIf not floor.Oct 21 15:23
nenolodas far as servers go, i just buy poweredgesOct 21 15:23
oiaohmSo I guess you don't fit into mobile datacenters.Oct 21 15:24
nenolodi used to buy HP servers, but they won't sell me an opteron-based system with proper iLO.Oct 21 15:24
oiaohmIe shipping containers.Oct 21 15:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !FS Proponents Expose the Microsoft-Funded (F)RAND Lobbyists and Their Lies, Microsoft to Lobby Directly in SOSOCON 2010 http://ur1.ca/252hvOct 21 15:24
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oiaohmpoweredges moutings are a little soft.Oct 21 15:24
nenolodyeah, the rapidrails are kind of bleah to installOct 21 15:24
nenolodat one colo, we have these old sun racks from the late 90sOct 21 15:25
nenolodwe wound up having to put everything on shelvesOct 21 15:25
oiaohmParticuarlly thinking in unloading a shippign container can drop 1.5 meters to ground.  nenolodOct 21 15:25
oiaohmSo power edges inside one of those is a complete disaster.Oct 21 15:25
nenolodyeahOct 21 15:25
nenolodbut for one of those, i'd probably just call up OracleOct 21 15:26
nenolodsince they actually sell thoseOct 21 15:26
nenolodthat said, i don't think i could afford oneOct 21 15:26
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oiaohmFunny enough most of ours are X emerency phone exchanges.  nenolodOct 21 15:26
oiaohmRack mounts are the same size.Oct 21 15:27
nenolodhmmOct 21 15:28
nenolodoiaohm: stuff like AT&T's NDS program?Oct 21 15:29
nenoloder, NDROct 21 15:29
oiaohmTelstra Australia.  nenolodOct 21 15:30
oiaohmThey built there own.Oct 21 15:30
nenolodyes, but stuff like http://www.corp.att.com/ndr/exercises_2010q3_photos.html right?Oct 21 15:31
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oiaohmThose are crud design.  nenolodOct 21 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @bkuhn Thanks! [Confidential. The information contained in this status is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above.]Oct 21 15:32
oiaohmThe old ones here are standard shipping containers.  With solar cell array option.  nenolodOct 21 15:34
nenolodyeah that's probably betterOct 21 15:34
oiaohmIe truck drives up drops them off sideOct 21 15:34
oiaohmSet the cells up link them in away they go.Oct 21 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Ha! I do that a lot too. Mailing list ettiquette is for compulsive know-betters.... ;)Oct 21 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @glynmoody Rise Of A New Intellectual Property Category, Ripe For Trolling: Publicity Rights - http://bit.ly/9y6lao #publicity <NUTS!Oct 21 15:34
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oiaohmAnd then truck can be reused to get other emerency supplies in.Oct 21 15:34
oiaohmThat is now being replaced by instant 3g and 4G towers.  nenolodOct 21 15:35
oiaohmWith sat uplinks.Oct 21 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Jammie Thomas' third P2P trial looms; RIAA complains about cost - http://bit.ly/9CRpa7 my heart bleeds for poor little RIA ...Oct 21 15:36
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oiaohmIt was found too much wiring was damaged after major disasters for plugin exchanges to be very effective.  nenolodOct 21 15:37
gnufreexHaha... can't beleive this. Can't beleive what I am reading. De Icaza advises Microsoft again. On his blog. Schestowitz: Is de Icaza in 'bozo bin'? Can I link to his blog?Oct 21 15:38
schestowitzNoOct 21 15:40
schestowitzBetter not tiOct 21 15:40
schestowitz*toOct 21 15:40
schestowitzBut he's not hiding itOct 21 15:41
schestowitzHe's openly pro-MicrosoftOct 21 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @bob_sutor: I'm convinced that in the future every individual will have his or her own App Store | 100% ACKOct 21 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @openattitude Signs that #OpenOffice might soon be dead. Viva #LibreOffice! | Cyber Cynic http://ur1.ca/24nqjOct 21 15:41
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schestowitzTo him, it's as though we should fight OracleOct 21 15:41
schestowitz"microsoft is our friend" so to speakOct 21 15:41
nenolodi think the correct assessment is that neither is our friendOct 21 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] I get it. Google Translate is a language abstraction layer. All you need now are skills to comprehend the automatic translations. Me kids.Oct 21 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Beware of anyone who spells wiki as though it were an acronym, "WIKI".Oct 21 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Facebook should give up on privacy http://is.gd/gbjaE (cc @manhack)Oct 21 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Work Towards The Debian 3.0 Quilt Source Format: For quite a while now there has been work towards bettering the D... http://bit.ly/bUiISeOct 21 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,Do such people usually write their WIKIs in #PERL or #PYTHON? (Do beware me b/c I sometimes write #RedHat to save a space in dent?)Oct 21 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] http://is.gd/gbjrT !! @manhack OMG la photo de la famille MoranoOct 21 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Narendra Sisodiya Takes on #AICTE for Support of Foreign Software Monopolies http://ur1.ca/252pq #india #adobe #microsoftOct 21 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] Does this (http://ow.ly/2X96e) mean Pardus will now replace OOo with LibreOffice? If so, is it the first distro to announce such a move?Oct 21 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: Signs that #OpenOffice might soon be dead. Viva #LibreOffice! | Cyber Cynic http://ur1.ca/24nqjOct 21 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @rcweir: I argued that the entire OOo CC should resign. "Vote of no confidence" Hold new elections. Let the community decide. | ACKOct 21 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fontana WIKI = "World Is Killing Itself", that explains? #wiki #acronymOct 21 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: Jammie Thomas' third P2P trial looms; RIAA complains about cost - http://bit.ly/9CRpa7 ...Oct 21 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] MPL, Alpha 3 released. http://mpl.mozilla.org/participate/alpha. http://mpl.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/MPL-alpha-three.pdfOct 21 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] Rise Of A New Intellectual Property Category, Ripe For Trolling: Publicity Rights - http://bit.ly/9y6lao #publicity (Via @laurelrusswurm)Oct 21 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Excellent, !Eclipse integrated packaging tools for !Fedora: http://2tu.us/2rg5Oct 21 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @carlopiana you don't mean that, do you? :)Oct 21 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @osamak make an educated guess ;-) Though I don't know what YOU mean :-POct 21 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] crap crap crap crap hate somethingOct 21 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Ah well.... I know you'd disagree.... ;)Oct 21 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Where is the current moral panic over ebooks on behalf of authors coming from?Oct 21 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] twitter says that @google is "Similar to [Me]" … #awkwardOct 21 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, I wouldn't mind top-reply w/ full-include if it did so as a MIME-attachment with a correct name that could be easily auto-ignored.Oct 21 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @carlopiana I'm a huge wiki(pedia) fan. :)Oct 21 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @robmyers ebooks are easier to copy?Oct 21 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @osamak so am I! You have taken the dent out of context, perhaps. #wiki is not an #acronym, WIKI is.Oct 21 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @trashbird1240 Sure, but they've known that for ages and used it to sell more books. Something has changed...Oct 21 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Pinsent rocks! Laugh of the Week: Gordon Pinsent reads Bieber: http://ur1.ca/252yk (via @dyscultured) why !canada is known for comedyOct 21 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] LibreOffice counts one code commit every 15 minutes: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LibreOffice #libreoffice #docufoundationOct 21 16:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: which nation has highest ranking in - "developers per square km". and "developer left hometown per squa... http://bit.ly/c5RDr4Oct 21 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] IT law expert reported saying: 'Firmware = the solded circuits and cables in an electronic device, such as a mobile phone'. #WTF!Oct 21 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn LOL. MIME-attachment? We all use GMail these days, dude.... ;)Oct 21 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, Wow, if it's true that "everyone" uses both proprietary MTAs & proprietary MUAs now, software freedom is in big trouble. :-/Oct 21 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Fixed #shadow, reduced a testcase for a #GCC miscompile bug, filed a few more bugs… a day like any other in !gentoo land :|Oct 21 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Well, maybe not everyone, but a huge part of the population, yes... Unfortunately there isn't anything FaiF that comes close...Oct 21 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenStack Compute and OpenStack Object Storage are now avaialable - http://bit.ly/9fxHfi keeping to schedule #openstack #opensourceOct 21 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Opera 11 Alpha With Extensions Support Is Available For Download http://bit.ly/9h4z9eOct 21 16:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] My personal space http://ow.ly/19z3J3Oct 21 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: OpenStack Compute and Object Storage are now avaialable - http://bit.ly/9fxHfi keeping to schedule #openstack #opensourceOct 21 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: which nation has highest ranking in - "developers per square km". and "developer left hometown per squa... http://bit.ly/c5RDr4Oct 21 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@schestowitz:!FS Proponents Expose the Microsoft-Funded (F)RAND Lobbyists and Their Lies, M$ Lobby Directly SOSOCON2010 http://ur1.ca/252hvOct 21 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Understanding IP: An Interview with Stephan Kinsella - http://bit.ly/cK25AI his libertarian view is *not* what you might expectOct 21 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A escrever uma mega entrada para o blog www.nixware.net sobre a utilização de FLOSS no mundo.... vai demorar ;)Oct 21 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Murdoch's Rag Hires a #Microsoft Advertiser/Booster as #CNET Loses Several http://ur1.ca/2537k pseudo-journalist Ina Fried leavesOct 21 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Já agora, alguém conhece por cá algum projecto que revenda hardware antigo, especialmente portáteis? Uma espécie de Ferro Velho do hardware!Oct 21 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @laurelrusswurm canada is known for comedy?Oct 21 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] http://www.kriptopolis.org/node/7886Oct 21 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Further to my !Fedora studies, it appears RPM Fusion is recommended for Fedora users, while RPM forge is more tailored to Redhat/Centos?Oct 21 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So I went with RPM FusionOct 21 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So I went with RPM FusionOct 21 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] De Gucht 2nd Plenary intervention on ACTA - http://bit.ly/cpqc5f pretty insulting attitude: "a kind of nebulous liberty" #acta #ffiiOct 21 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] But why I can't spellcheck in !Pino? Well that one has evaded me so farOct 21 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Arrogant Worms, Rick Moranis, Wayne&Shuster, SCTV, SNL (expat Cdn), Dan Ackroyd, Police Academy, Ivan Reitman, Jim Carrey, YukYuks...Oct 21 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @tylana Playing retro game Alex the Alligator game in !Ubuntu If you like SuperTux you may find this amusing. I found it in the softw ...Oct 21 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Just the ones off the top of my head. Canadians make up a disproportionately large segment of US comedy.Oct 21 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Relatively recent funny Canadian TV fare: Slings & Arrows, Less Than Kind, 18 to LifeOct 21 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @robmyers give me a url; my mom's an author and might be interestedOct 21 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @robmyers I'm curious 2. My beef with trad. publishing is their assuming they've the right to publish ebooks of backlist w/o negotiatingOct 21 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Copies !GNU !Linux (Poorly), Then Spreads FUD About It, Receives More Backlash http://ur1.ca/253h9 jeopardizing #apple cash cowsOct 21 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Thirty minute warning--We've opened the room for the webcast, so you can join now. http://bit.ly/cmjrS3 #oywfOct 21 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Made it home from work. Now making some coffee and sitting down to start the edit of !LO 171.Oct 21 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @robmyers in Canada we also have a group of copyright collectives pretending to speak for all Canadian authors re: Canadian DMCA !BillC32Oct 21 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Are !minecraft's servers still down?Oct 21 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies you should add "Please consider the environment before printing this dent"Oct 21 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wonder if Bylsma will field Johnson again tonight against the Predators? Also: who will score more, 87 or 71? Sure hope Orpik is back. !PensOct 21 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana I tried! This character limit is wreaking untold liability and environmental calamity.Oct 21 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @carlopiana ♺ @charlesschulz: FossAlliance, more than expertise, better than a network: http://ur1.ca/250frOct 21 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LIstening to my favourite !Severedfifth track..... Beating Heart: http://tinyurl.com/35uzlrh !metal !ccOct 21 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Linux at NASDAQ OMX http://lwn.net/Articles/411064/rssOct 21 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bit stupid that you can't play !Minecraft multiplayer at all when the main server is fucked... Notch needs to sort that out.Oct 21 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Installing !Trisquel on my father's laptop. Removed MS Office from my mother's (been using OOo for a yr).It's a great sf day for the family!Oct 21 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Fedora 14 Spotlight Feature: Get Mobile with Fedora 14 http://ur1.ca/253m9Oct 21 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] UK citizens celebrating former PM's illness: http://atypicalgeek.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/the-cheers-for-the-death-of-one-old-lady/Oct 21 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @laurelrusswurm yeah but I wouldn't say they're *known* for comedy, americans think that they're all american :POct 21 17:52
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schestowitz[08:24] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [osamak/@osamak] Steve Ballmer is going to speak here in Riyadh in an 'Open Door' event.Oct 21 17:56
schestowitzHe Open omelette in BudapestOct 21 17:57
schestowitz*he hadOct 21 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Ouch RT @beaTunesApp: #Apple just killed #Java on (future versions of) OS X http://tinyurl.com/24vcexq http://fb.me/JwWw2C8DOct 21 17:57
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schestowitzHe didn't like is *that* open, so he ducked beneath a deskOct 21 17:58
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_Goblinhi all!Oct 21 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] #oywf webcast with Joseph Reagle starting now. Join us at redhat.dimdim.com/opensourcewayOct 21 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] yay, now live from Toronto for a few daysOct 21 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How come the minor issues always take the longest to solve eh?Oct 21 18:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/28037679563Oct 21 18:05
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schestowitz"@schestowitz @ffii - My "to wit" tweet was chiding @ipthinktank for using the childish Luddite term #patent "troll""Oct 21 18:05
schestowitzPatent lawyers..Oct 21 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @schestowitz: RT @jwildeboer Ouch #Apple just killed #Java on (future versions of) OS X http://tinyurl.com/24vcexq http://fb.me/JwWw2C8DOct 21 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] rats, of course Linus had to release 2.6.36 as I was off-line in a tin can. !linuxlibre 2.6.36-libre is on the wayOct 21 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Funny thought: If Canonical has balls, they could make more money from that trademark than they ever will on the music store thing...Oct 21 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] zeroeth law: wikipedia may work in practice, but not in theory #oywfOct 21 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn you mean, you're glad ~8 lawyers existOct 21 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @osamak #WikiReader does not use !fsOct 21 18:09
schestowitz[Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Work? - http://bit.ly/alpSe3 important question in a world of free digital stuff #work #abundanceOct 21 18:12
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schestowitzStill good to meet colleagues face to face...Oct 21 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Joseph Reagle: wiki = fast, a shuttle in hawaii. #0ywfOct 21 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] # of wikipedia contributors? 41,393 #oywfOct 21 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] wikipedia holy trinity: Neutral point of view. Verifiability. No original research. Joseph reagle #oywfOct 21 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nenolod/@nenolod] oh, my god. kudos to @fluteflute seriously. this is the most amusing bug I think I have ever read: http://ur1.ca/253uuOct 21 18:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @laurelrusswurm Phil Hartman, baby!Oct 21 18:16
dyfetThat is amusingOct 21 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @laurelrusswurm William Shatner...Oct 21 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @schestowitz I think it does, http://github.com/wikireader/wikireader (doesn't it?) I did contribute the AR translation a few months ago.Oct 21 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bob Guccione, founder of much-loved and much-missed science fiction magazine Omni, died yesterday of cancer http://ur1.ca/253wdOct 21 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @sensespidey: Here's my blog post about Monday's #civicrm meetup in Toronto: http://is.gd/gahRE /ccOct 21 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I had to work on a Vista 7 comp today, completely lost.Oct 21 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] wikilove=a general spirit of collegiality and mutual understanding #oywfOct 21 18:22
nenolodDiablo-D3:Oct 21 18:22
nenolodhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/664107Oct 21 18:23
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nenolodgogogoOct 21 18:23
MinceRsomething gives me the feeling that canonical won't sueOct 21 18:23
nenolodthey betterOct 21 18:24
dyfetMaybe they should assign that bug to Matt Asay ;)Oct 21 18:24
nenolodat least then i will forgive them for ruining audaciousOct 21 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] wikipeida: Neutral point of view = writing for the enemy #oywfOct 21 18:24
Diablo-D3nenolod: umOct 21 18:24
Diablo-D3oh my.Oct 21 18:24
nenolodif they sue appleOct 21 18:24
Diablo-D3if they sue apple, we're all fuckedOct 21 18:25
nenolodi will reassign all of my copyrights on audacious to canonicalOct 21 18:25
MinceRDiablo-D3: why?Oct 21 18:25
nenolodthey can ruin it all they want then!Oct 21 18:25
Diablo-D3MinceR: because apple is the only thing keeping the gay art students at bay!Oct 21 18:25
nenolodsorryOct 21 18:25
Diablo-D3without macs and osx, they'll all come to linux!Oct 21 18:25
nenolodit's not workingOct 21 18:25
MinceRDiablo-D3: what would they do?Oct 21 18:25
MinceRDiablo-D3: no, they'll go to ubuntuOct 21 18:25
MinceR:>Oct 21 18:25
Diablo-D3but that... oh, I see what you did tharOct 21 18:25
MinceRit's prepared just for themOct 21 18:25
nenolodi don't like aquaOct 21 18:26
Diablo-D3seriously thoughOct 21 18:26
nenolodit's so brightOct 21 18:26
Diablo-D3if ubuntu sues appleOct 21 18:26
nenolodit makes my eyes hurtOct 21 18:26
MinceRi hate aqua with a passionOct 21 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] wikipedia key virtues: assume the best; civility; patience; humor #oywfOct 21 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] wikipedia: Karl Fogel. version control means you can relax #oywfOct 21 18:26
MinceRthe crApple theme, that isOct 21 18:26
MinceRnot the musicians :>Oct 21 18:26
Diablo-D3I will quit calling shuttlecock shuttlecockOct 21 18:26
MinceRi can't promise that just yetOct 21 18:26
nenolodmanOct 21 18:26
nenolodif he sues apple and winsOct 21 18:26
nenolodi'll pay for him to go into space againOct 21 18:27
MinceRbut not to come back? :>Oct 21 18:27
Diablo-D3thats the plan.Oct 21 18:27
nenolodyeah he'll have to cover the return trip on his own dimeOct 21 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @DaHammerstein "Private copy levy" on reproduction media ruled illegal by European Court of Justice against.es collecting soc #copyrightOct 21 18:27
MinceRthat's what they should have done to simonyiOct 21 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The day cannot be so perfect.I moved the chair upon !FSFE card(no scratches made tho)I'm getting "apdu_send_simple(0) failed: card inactive"Oct 21 18:27
nenolodbut ubuntu one probably has space trave ability anywayOct 21 18:28
MinceRjust throw him out the airlockOct 21 18:28
MinceR:>Oct 21 18:28
Diablo-D3like what picard did to whesleyOct 21 18:28
gnufreexOh, my. If TheSteveOfLinux sues and wins Apple, I will use Ubuntu again.Oct 21 18:28
Diablo-D3dude, if he sues and wins against apple, I might have to switch to slackware.Oct 21 18:29
nenolodi've never used Ubuntu for more than 5 minutesOct 21 18:29
nenolodDiablo-D3: switch to AlpineOct 21 18:29
nenolodDiablo-D3: XFCE is already workingOct 21 18:29
Diablo-D3nenolod: ppc, x86-64.Oct 21 18:29
nenolodDiablo-D3: x86-64 build is in progressOct 21 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @trashbird1240 sorry. On behalf of Canada, I apologize for William Shatner. :(Oct 21 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] wikipeida: civility acts as a last line of defense #oywfOct 21 18:29
nenolodhalfway done rebuilding the treeOct 21 18:29
Diablo-D3it doesnt need to be "in progress"Oct 21 18:29
Diablo-D3it needs to be done last weekOct 21 18:29
nenolodthen i will master an ISOOct 21 18:29
Diablo-D3nenolod: also, does alpine have everything I use built?Oct 21 18:30
Diablo-D3er, packaged, anywaysOct 21 18:30
nenolodDiablo-D3: XFCE is packagedOct 21 18:30
nenolodDiablo-D3: not much work has been done on the desktop experience yetOct 21 18:30
Diablo-D3what about openjdk?Oct 21 18:30
nenolodDiablo-D3: probably not, but it's on the todoOct 21 18:30
nenolodit will be in non-free thoughOct 21 18:30
Diablo-D3what about wine 1.3.x?Oct 21 18:30
nenolodyesOct 21 18:30
Diablo-D3what about pidgin and gwibber?Oct 21 18:31
nenolodpidgin - yesOct 21 18:31
nenolodgwibber - nfiOct 21 18:31
nenolodopenoffice is notOct 21 18:31
Diablo-D3what about xchat?Oct 21 18:31
nenolodabiword isOct 21 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] XML Processor Profiles Draft Published http://ow.ly/19zayZOct 21 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Clinton 'lost vital White House nuclear codes' http://ur1.ca/253z0 Palin/Tea Party in sidebar a coincidence?Oct 21 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz What about this news from M$ http://ur1.ca/252bc ?Oct 21 18:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Clinton 'lost vital White House nuclear codes'  - Telegraph .::. Size~: 57 KBOct 21 18:31
nenoloddunno about xchatOct 21 18:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft sells 240 million copies of Windows 7 in one year .::. Size~: 91.71 KBOct 21 18:31
Diablo-D3I dont use openoffice (thank god)Oct 21 18:31
gnufreexIf shuttleworth don't sue Apple, then APple will sue him. They will claim they first thought of crashpad name.Oct 21 18:31
nenolodit's so fucking easy to make packages thoOct 21 18:31
gnufreex..* I mean LauchpadOct 21 18:31
Diablo-D3lunchpad.Oct 21 18:31
Diablo-D3om nom nomOct 21 18:31
MinceR:DOct 21 18:32
Diablo-D3nenolod: you need evince-gtk built (thats evince with gnome deps off)Oct 21 18:32
Diablo-D3oh, and gvimOct 21 18:32
Diablo-D3and urxvtOct 21 18:32
Diablo-D3I build aud and ff from trunkOct 21 18:32
Diablo-D3I dont use eclipse from debsOct 21 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @trashbird1240 Why thank you... didn't know he was one of ours :DOct 21 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith it's PR, not newsOct 21 18:32
Diablo-D3nenolod: oh, and I need either wicd or networkmanagerOct 21 18:33
nenolodDiablo-D3: it's a git repo, you can make your own packages and have us pull themOct 21 18:33
Diablo-D3yes, but _I_ have to make themOct 21 18:33
gnufreexOr maybe now Canonical has find new name. I propose Donald Duck.Oct 21 18:33
Diablo-D3gnufreex: scrooge.Oct 21 18:33
nenolodDiablo-D3: it's as easy as editing a file with url and sha256sum :POct 21 18:33
MinceRi propose WeAreCrApple'sBitches.Oct 21 18:33
Diablo-D3see, I hate crapple as an insultOct 21 18:34
MinceRor crApple'sBitchesRUsOct 21 18:34
Diablo-D3its not fruity enoughOct 21 18:34
Diablo-D3dohohohohoohohohOct 21 18:34
*Diablo-D3 lights self on fire for that oneOct 21 18:34
MinceRcalling crApple "Apple" is an insult to the fruitOct 21 18:34
MinceR:>Oct 21 18:34
gnufreexDIablo-D3 i dont get.Oct 21 18:34
nenolodyeah but apples are rather tastyOct 21 18:34
nenolodso don't insult the fruit!Oct 21 18:34
MinceRapples can become rather tasty in processed formOct 21 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Hard to swallow, anyway.Oct 21 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Blessed Unity: Ars reviews Ubuntu 10.10 http://cli.gs/qZ62M (via @arstechnica)Oct 21 18:34
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MinceRin cakes, for exampleOct 21 18:34
nenolodDiablo-D3: ohOct 21 18:34
MinceRor just minced and sugaredOct 21 18:34
MinceR:)Oct 21 18:34
nenolodDiablo-D3: due to uclibc usageOct 21 18:34
nenolodDiablo-D3: it's impossible for proprietary software to run on alpineOct 21 18:35
MinceRand as juice, of courseOct 21 18:35
MinceRnenolod: not just illegal?Oct 21 18:35
nenolodimpossible!Oct 21 18:35
Diablo-D3nenolod: you do know you can force-wrap apps that use glibc to use glibc, right?Oct 21 18:35
nenolodunless they make a uclibc buildOct 21 18:35
nenolodDiablo-D3: well yesOct 21 18:35
nenolodDiablo-D3: obviouslyOct 21 18:35
Diablo-D3I see no immediate problem with thatOct 21 18:35
nenolodbasicallyOct 21 18:35
nenolodno flashplayer.soOct 21 18:36
nenolod:pOct 21 18:36
Diablo-D3just package glibc in a way that only works with the wrapper scriptOct 21 18:36
nenolodbutOct 21 18:36
Diablo-D3yeah, I sorta _need_ flashplayer until all of youtube is converted to webmOct 21 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith don't bother thinking about itOct 21 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Seems #TheSteve and #TheSteveOfLinux are best buddies now. They even use the same names for features - #Launchpad ...Oct 21 18:36
nenolodDiablo-D3: nspluginwrapper + debian-5 chrootOct 21 18:36
nenolodDiablo-D3: it's the freebsd wayOct 21 18:36
Diablo-D3nenolod: ugly.Oct 21 18:36
MinceRswfdec? gnash?Oct 21 18:36
MinceR(last time i tried sound didn't work with swfdec, though)Oct 21 18:36
nenolodyeah gnash works great for youtube nowOct 21 18:36
nenolodlolOct 21 18:36
MinceRfor extra pervert points: wine+firefox+trash for winblows, or even wine+ie+trash for winblows :>Oct 21 18:37
nenolodwine+firefox+trash is how i do it anywayOct 21 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz If U watch a footnote: M$ to spend $1 Billion promoting wmp7. Wow, they have a money making machine. Vapour money, that isOct 21 18:37
Diablo-D3wine+firefox has wm issues in xfceOct 21 18:38
Diablo-D3ff keeps popping up on mouseoverOct 21 18:38
MinceRor if you've got time, you can have tinyogg.com convert it into theora+vorbis and watch that :>Oct 21 18:38
MinceRand some yt downloader app might still work, even if they broke cliveOct 21 18:38
MinceR(or it's just that my clive is old)Oct 21 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith Hello Smithy, I fell asleep on the settee with the headphones on last night :)Oct 21 18:39
Diablo-D3nenolod: so probably next year I'll switch to alpineOct 21 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith they recently borrowed a few more billionsOct 21 18:41
nenolodDiablo-D3: i'm putting my resources into itOct 21 18:42
Diablo-D3nenolod: okayOct 21 18:43
Diablo-D3hows thisOct 21 18:43
Diablo-D3make it boot in minus 3 secondsOct 21 18:43
Diablo-D3and Ill switchOct 21 18:43
nenolodDiablo-D3: by then, it may be possible to switch without having to reinstallOct 21 18:43
nenolodDiablo-D3: it already boots in 2 seconds from NANDOct 21 18:43
Diablo-D3nenolod: you know what would be awesomeOct 21 18:44
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Diablo-D3if you shipped the distro, for free, on some sort of 16gb driveOct 21 18:44
Diablo-D3that is the size of a stick, and does sataOct 21 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn how 'bout an LGPLv2.1 project that bundles an autoconf macro file licensed under GPLv3: effective package license GPLv3? :-)Oct 21 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer ...the Apple App Store review Guidelines for the MacOS App Store. And you thought China was scary? http://pastie.org/1236378Oct 21 18:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #1236378 - Pastie .::. Size~: 34.53 KBOct 21 18:44
Diablo-D3and has 8gb reserved for hibernation.Oct 21 18:44
nenolodthat makes approximately 0 senseOct 21 18:44
nenolodbusiness wiseOct 21 18:44
Diablo-D3dude, it takes me like 2 whole minutes to unhibernateOct 21 18:45
Diablo-D3I can boot fasterOct 21 18:45
nenolodyou are basically saying: please buy a SSD, load free software on it, and then give it awayOct 21 18:45
Diablo-D3yes.Oct 21 18:45
nenolod(net profit: -$ whatever the SSD costs)Oct 21 18:45
Diablo-D3nenolod: stillOct 21 18:45
Diablo-D3I'd like to be able to unhibernate instantlyOct 21 18:46
nenolodi mean if the hippie who lives next to twitter knows he has to make a profitOct 21 18:46
nenolodsurely i know thatOct 21 18:46
Diablo-D3nenolod: just make computers that dont suckOct 21 18:46
Diablo-D3thats all you have to doOct 21 18:46
MinceRlolOct 21 18:47
Diablo-D3nenolod: you can even sell them! just make it not suck!Oct 21 18:47
schestowitzThistleWeb: no videosOct 21 18:48
schestowitzWas gonna post one, but it's emptyOct 21 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] SAF slams the press at end of last night's post-match press-conf (saying "why would I want to meet you pp" ) http://ur1.ca/25442 !mufcOct 21 18:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SkySports Video Player (v09) .::. Size~: 1.86 KBOct 21 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] >What's new in !Linux 2.6.36 http://www.h-online.com/open/features/What-s-new-in-Linux-2-6-36-1103009.htmlOct 21 18:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's new in Linux 2.6.36 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 36.38 KBOct 21 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Here's The First GNOME 3.0 Development Release: Back in 2008 it was decided GNOME 2.32 would turn into GNOME 3.0, ... http://bit.ly/9y4f5nOct 21 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Winamp runs on Android http://ur1.ca/251re http://ur1.ca/2545i is Android the next Windows?Oct 21 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @carlopiana MPL, Alpha 3 released. http://mpl.mozilla.org/participate/alpha. http://mpl.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/MPL-al ...Oct 21 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Bill Clinton 'lost vital White House nuclear codes' http://ur1.ca/253z0 Palin/Tea Party in sidebar a coincidence?Oct 21 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz RT @jwildeboer ...the Apple App Store review Guidelines for the MacOS App Store. And you thought China was scary? http:/ ...Oct 21 18:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Here's The First GNOME 3.0 Development Release .::. Size~: 16.2 KBOct 21 18:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Winamp for Android: Now in Beta - Winamp Blog .::. Size~: 60.12 KBOct 21 18:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Winamp for Android is here, and it rocks | larsa | Androinica .::. Size~: 66.57 KBOct 21 18:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alpha Three Draft «  Updating the MPL .::. Size~: 6.17 KBOct 21 18:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MPL Alpha 1 released! «  Updating the MPL .::. Size~: 7.22 KBOct 21 18:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Clinton 'lost vital White House nuclear codes'  - Telegraph .::. Size~: 57 KBOct 21 18:53
Diablo-D3woah shit bot floodOct 21 18:53
Diablo-D3nenolod: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODY5NwOct 21 18:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Work Towards The Debian 3.0 Quilt Source Format .::. Size~: 16.16 KBOct 21 18:54
Diablo-D3nenolod: that doesnt sound good.Oct 21 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Joseph Reagle #OYWF webcast recap: http://bit.ly/b72Na4Oct 21 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @mattl the uri !fsf website is pointing to is the *wiki* of !replicant not the actual website (where more and better info are).Oct 21 18:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Recap: Open Your World webcast with Joseph Reagle, author of Good Faith Collaboration | opensource.com .::. Size~: 42.22 KBOct 21 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz We're more than 1%, for Winamp to be ported to Linux. But I don't ditch XMMS, never ever.Oct 21 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] Weird: I have a poem stuck in my head. Spooky: I googled. It's a poem by Cecil Frances Alexander.Oct 21 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz And if they ported Winamp to Android, porting to other distros is just a matter of recompliling the source code.Oct 21 18:57
ThistleWebschestowitz: yah DMCA's a bitch huh?Oct 21 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Because I don't have access to a Bermuda tax haven, my tax rate is 10x Google, Inc.'s http://ur1.ca/2547rOct 21 19:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Tax Haven That's Saving Google Billions - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 50.95 KBOct 21 19:01
ThistleWebrofl, nah, jus' kiddin'Oct 21 19:01
schestowitzYou got me there for a secondOct 21 19:01
ThistleWebI figured a way to do them, but it means re-recording them, starting with the introOct 21 19:01
ThistleWeband by the time I figured it out last night I was shattered, so I'm gonna start doing it shortlyOct 21 19:02
ThistleWebwith some luck the new proper one should be up and ready tonightOct 21 19:02
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ThistleWebI put these experiences down to the learning process, figuring out what I need to do with some trial and errorOct 21 19:03
ThistleWebif my plan works I'll know to cuit to the chase and keep doing it that way from now onOct 21 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] @schestowitz If you're using Winamp as the yardstick, then look at the beta as an endorsement of Android's popularity.Oct 21 19:04
schestowitzI keep working on this in vainOct 21 19:04
schestowitzAdding the vidsOct 21 19:04
schestowitzWith titlesOct 21 19:04
schestowitzAnd then you remove themOct 21 19:04
ThistleWebsorry, but you're trying to grab them hella quickOct 21 19:05
ThistleWebI am hoping to have the intro video up and available as mp4 ogv and flv by tonightOct 21 19:06
ThistleWebif you got the original ogv, or at least watched it, consider it a collectors item lolOct 21 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Here's The First GNOME 3.0 Development Release: Back in 2008 it was decided GNOME 2.32 would turn into GNOME 3.0, ... http://bit.ly/9y4f5nOct 21 19:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Here's The First GNOME 3.0 Development Release .::. Size~: 16.2 KBOct 21 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Still pissed off after being mocked yesterdayOct 21 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @geekybodhi Android will hopefully make more apps UNIXy and then ported to GNU Linux desktopsOct 21 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Born digital - http://bit.ly/bqZ8qu "What happens if Microsoft is bankrupt and forgotten in 2210?" preserving the digital past #librariesOct 21 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @dbd Amazon Android app store welcomes DRM -- http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon-android-drm (by FSF intern mollydb)Oct 21 19:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Archiving the web: Born digital | The Economist .::. Size~: 48.63 KBOct 21 19:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon app store for Android welcomes DRM | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 19.61 KBOct 21 19:13
nenolodDiablo-D3: i'm sorry what? i stopped paying attention to debian - there's no more engineering talent thereOct 21 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @adambanksdotcom Emmanuel Nimley released from prison; sentence cut from 6 mos to 120hrs community service http://ur1.ca/254an !copyrightOct 21 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @johnsu01 RD @dbd Amazon Android app store welcomes DRM -- http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon-android-drm (by FSF intern mollydb)Oct 21 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 better to be pissed off than pissed onOct 21 19:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why I am not ashamed of Emmanuel Nimley — AdamBanks.com .::. Size~: 65.43 KBOct 21 19:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon app store for Android welcomes DRM | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 19.61 KBOct 21 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz XMMS and Juk here.Oct 21 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The great patent battle - http://bit.ly/bYfPbO "Pessimists predict an everlasting patent war" #smartphones #patentthicketsOct 21 19:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Smart-phone lawsuits: The great patent battle | The Economist .::. Size~: 52.23 KBOct 21 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] #amazon app store inizia con le restrizioni digitali: http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon-android-drm !lpit (qualcuno vuole tradurre?)Oct 21 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New take on #ACTA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH-fWqdA7xA from @MarietjeD66Oct 21 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon app store for Android welcomes DRM | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 19.61 KBOct 21 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Marietje Schaake on ACTA   .::. Size~: 110.67 KBOct 21 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @johnsu01 does mollydb have an account here? I would like to subscribe.Oct 21 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @schestowitz New take on !ACTA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH-fWqdA7xA from @MarietjeD66Oct 21 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Marietje Schaake on ACTA   .::. Size~: 111.08 KBOct 21 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Born digital - http://bit.ly/bqZ8qu "What happens if Microsoft is bankrupt and forgotten in 2210?" preserving the digital ...Oct 21 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ha, Ha, Steven Seagal em Machete tá parecendo o Hugo Chávez... :-DOct 21 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] @schestowitz If only that was true. Android apps are written in Java using Android SDK. It's pretty much similar to running Winamp via Wine.Oct 21 19:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Archiving the web: Born digital | The Economist .::. Size~: 48.6 KBOct 21 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @geekybodhi several distros have already moved to #libreofficeOct 21 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @carlopiana MPL, Alpha 3 released. http://ur1.ca/254ex. http://ur1.ca/254eyOct 21 19:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Canonical home page - http://bit.ly/aZgtIJ oh look, it's that colour again #canonical #ubuntu #aubergineOct 21 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody New Canonical home page - http://bit.ly/aZgtIJ oh look, it's that colour again #canonical #ubuntu #theSteveofLinuxOct 21 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak Installing !Trisquel on my father's laptop. Removed MS Office from my mother's (been using OOo for a yr)...Oct 21 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @trashbird1240 UK citizens celebrating former PM's illness: http://ur1.ca/254j7Oct 21 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IMO, it's very wrong to wish for people's death while they are alive. It is reasonable, however, to criticise them after they die. #ThatcherOct 21 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @schestowitz: it's very wrong to wish for people's death while they are alive. It is reasonable, however, to criticise them after they dieOct 21 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @nenolod oh, my god. kudos to @fluteflute seriously. this is the most amusing bug I think I have ever read: http://ur1.ca/253uuOct 21 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Industry disarray will let 'pirates' win - http://bit.ly/b3dlou "solutions - more engaging, interactive advertising": I don't think so...Oct 21 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Channel 4 is blatently forgetting about AndroidOct 21 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @thistleweb touchéOct 21 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Thursday http://lwn.net/Articles/411085/rssOct 21 19:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug #664107 in Launchpad itself: “Launchpad trademark” .::. Size~: 31.1 KBOct 21 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @geekybodhi that's what I was going to suggestOct 21 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz if u liked that bug, try this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/fluiddb/+bug/664548 @nenolod @flutefluteOct 21 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] as of yesterday I'm running a fully libre debian GNU/Linux testing install \o/ (Took me a day because of repo issues, dont ask -.-)Oct 21 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh it's not just netiquette, top-posting & blackberry-style quoting make long threads unreadable. Esp. corporate emails w/ >3 partiesOct 21 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the intro screencast will probs be delayed till tomorrow, I'm shattered, 3 rambling takes later I took a breakOct 21 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I really hate the #CareerBuilder site. I want to turn off all the "insurance sales" spam their clients send.Oct 21 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wonder how many fans paid a fortune for a ticket, only to be under a HUGE banner when a wonder goal was scored & didn't see it !footballOct 21 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bottom quoting. Just to piss the top-quoters off. (Not really.)Oct 21 20:07
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sebsebsebHiOct 21 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana Bullshit. I can read threats no matter where people quote...Oct 21 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana You want to tell me you people can deal with patching the kernel but a misplaced quote in *email* throws you of? Come on!Oct 21 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh bottom quoting? is that just like repeating the stuff people talk out of their ass?Oct 21 20:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana LOL. I can also read threads, of course.... ;)Oct 21 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh SCO - Linux infringes our IP......that kinda bottom quoting?Oct 21 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb I wager my arse is more eloquent than most people's mouth.... ;)Oct 21 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Net Neutrality – Comments to the FCC - http://bit.ly/9Ut258 good points, but most amazing is to see Mozilla talk in 3rd person, like TarzanOct 21 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (last post via @chrisblizzard @johnolilly)Oct 21 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh you do fart rather eloquently roflOct 21 20:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Now I get PM complaints about my language. Mission accomplished then! :) #sarcasm #sarcasmpeopleOct 21 20:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] RT @comzeradd !Fedora 14 Spotlight Feature: Get Mobile with Fedora 14 http://ur1.ca/253m9Oct 21 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Born digital - http://bit.ly/bqZ8qu "What happens if Microsoft is bankrupt and forgotten in 2210?" preserving the digital ...Oct 21 20:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Wow, Froyo is out for my phone and I didn't know until now. Guess I'll try the upgrade first to test the water for SupaWife.Oct 21 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canada's Liberals To Launch Major Open Government Policy Initiative - http://bit.ly/asf9Bv the more, the merrier #ogov #canadaOct 21 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A lot of Linux discussions have shifted to Android (Google) and Apple. There's this company people hardly care as much about anymore.Oct 21 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In a few years, Microsoft's role may be known mostly as that of the troll. http://ur1.ca/20gifOct 21 20:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Ever-changing Face of Dell.com http://ur1.ca/254yg "I think this is a huge improvement in variety of products and search." !gnu !linuxOct 21 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Gmail vs. Zimbra Desktop 2.0 (Linux Magazine) http://lwn.net/Articles/411127/rssOct 21 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shocking video of Papuan torture prompts calls for inquiry - http://bit.ly/9sGnFf poor #Papuans still suffering in their own land #indonesiaOct 21 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Essentials of Bash Scripting: http://bit.ly/8Z5o4D #linuxOct 21 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Good set of posts from Eileen @ Fuzion - NZ on using #drupal migrate / schema / data modules to import #CiviCRM Data: http://bit.ly/as8g3uOct 21 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I have met very very lawyers who did more good than harm. It appears, AFAIK, a flaw in the profession that few can overcome.Oct 21 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware angles Spring as more popular competitor to JEE/EJB. (Network World): http://bit.ly/cyFhyIOct 21 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, it seems to be opposite with developers: it is rare their avarice outweighs desire to do the interesting stuff for reasonable costOct 21 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Overhead at Interop: The greatest source of transactions at CitiBank between 6 - 9 AM comes from Starbucks, by an order-of-magnitude.Oct 21 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Backup Party \o/Oct 21 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I think I will make a teaOct 21 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn "very very"? please clarify ;-)Oct 21 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, to be clear, I mean the subset of "IP" lawyers. I have not idea what other subfields are like. One can onky hope they're betterOct 21 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Three Things That Won't Be In The Linux 2.6.37 Kernel: While the Linux 2.6.36 kernel was released yesterday, we al... http://bit.ly/aWJJKKOct 21 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Come on, !Minecraft server.... Stop being down.....Oct 21 20:57
Ender2070You must be really bored to be reading this.Oct 21 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/10/2010: #Launchpad Conflict, #FossAlliance Debut http://techrights.org/2010/10/21/fossalliance-debut/Oct 21 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ninapaley RT @Techdirt 'Pirated' On 4Chan, Author Joins Discussion/Watches Sales Soarhttp://ur1.ca/2555z <<awesome graph !copyleftOct 21 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ninapaley RT @Techdirt 'Pirated' On 4Chan, Author Joins Discussion/Watches Sales Soar http://ur1.ca/2555z <<awesome graph !copyleftOct 21 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] MOSTLYCLEANFILES = *~ is a stupid thing to declare, okay?Oct 21 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] Stupid people break laws. Smart companies just bend them. Google 2.4% Rate Shows How $60 Billion Lost to Tax Loopholes: http://ow.ly/2Xm5UOct 21 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Nokia boosts Qt commitment, changes Symbian strategy (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/411141/rssOct 21 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @dbd Amazon Android app store welcomes DRM -- http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon-android-drm !dbd !gnu !fsfOct 21 21:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Must watch: Marietje Schaake on ACTA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH-fWqdA7xAOct 21 21:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Tell !Google we love !VoIP but want open SIP access, not just in a desktop browser with their proprietary plugin www.nd.gd/6z !fsf !gnu !lpOct 21 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Mozilla man accuses Jobs of 'bypass the web' scheme • The Register http://bit.ly/9FeLIhOct 21 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz RT @osamak Installing !Trisquel on my father's laptop. Removed MS Office from my mother's (been using OOo for a yr)...Oct 21 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @maco: Cheerleader forced to cheer for her rapist http://post.ly/16ANl http://ur1.ca/255inOct 21 22:02
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Ender2070http://ohcanadamovie.com/Oct 21 22:03
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Ender2070awesome movieOct 21 22:03
Ender2070if you want to know how Canadians are being ripped off by banksOct 21 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ha! I used a term that @sleepynate didn't know. #powerup #pwndOct 21 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.36-libre is now available from http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/Oct 21 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. I'm dead tired....Oct 21 22:09
NarwhalI forsee reduction in Mono-lust at Ubuntu: http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/10/20/ubuntu-and-qt/Oct 21 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu and Qt «  We'll see | Matt Zimmerman .::. Size~: 120.98 KBOct 21 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] palimpsest rocks, it just saved me a ton of time! #fedoraOct 21 22:12
schestowitzyeahOct 21 22:22
schestowitzMobilityOct 21 22:22
schestowitzMono is bloatOct 21 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I'm off to bed... #needsleepOct 21 22:22
NarwhalNot just mobility... but Qt can deliver the "easy programming w/ static typing" promise of MonoOct 21 22:23
Narwhalso there won't be a reason to use Mono anymore, apart from legacy code maintenanceOct 21 22:23
Narwhalof course that blog post is just a start, but Ubuntu needed at least to do that before the wheels start rollingOct 21 22:24
Narwhalshuttleworth at least would need to chip inOct 21 22:24
schestowitzhttp://www.twst.com/yagoo/maguire2.htmlOct 21 22:25
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schestowitzLOLOct 21 22:25
schestowitzAZuneOct 21 22:25
schestowitzOzzie quitOct 21 22:25
Narwhal(but mdz us a cto, so it's important as it is)Oct 21 22:25
schestowitzHe was the AZune guyOct 21 22:25
schestowitzNow they are lost in B-POSOct 21 22:25
schestowitz<Narwhal> so there won't be a reason to use Mono anymore, apart from legacy code maintenanceOct 21 22:26
schestowitzCanonical barely coded in Mono anywayOct 21 22:26
schestowitzDavid uses Vala for UnityOct 21 22:26
schestowitzCanonical just picked some mono pieces from elsewhereOct 21 22:26
Ender2070hmmOct 21 22:26
Ender2070heres a theoryOct 21 22:27
schestowitz<Narwhal> of course that blog post is just a start, but Ubuntu needed at least to do that before the wheels start rollingOct 21 22:27
schestowitzMarkS said they might move to QtOct 21 22:27
Ender2070perhaps Miguel is _retreating_ to macosx and windowsOct 21 22:27
schestowitzLike last year..Oct 21 22:27
Narwhalwell, Vala is almost monoOct 21 22:27
schestowitz<Narwhal> (but mdz us a cto, so it's important as it is)Oct 21 22:27
schestowitzHe talked negatively about MonoOct 21 22:27
Narwhalit's c#, which is at the root of the problem (according to rms)Oct 21 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] CodeWeavers Releases CrossOver 9.2: CrossOver 9.1 was released in July based off the Wine 1.2 code-base, but this ... http://bit.ly/b4YXZuOct 21 22:27
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Narwhaloh?Oct 21 22:28
Ender2070Team Mono might not even like Linux anymore, they're always talking about how well their stuff works on Apple products and WindowsOct 21 22:28
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/04/20/matt-zimmerman-on-mono/Oct 21 22:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical is Already Aware of the Problem With Mono | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.84 KBOct 21 22:28
Narwhalyeah, talk about how annoying that MonoTouch plugging is from miguelOct 21 22:28
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/27899470954Oct 21 22:29
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schestowitzThey got the Apple religion up their..Oct 21 22:29
schestowitz"While discussing hostage situations and ways to prepare 4 it @abock says: "my sagely advise is: you can hide a lot of things in your rectum"' -Microsoft MVPell.Oct 21 22:29
schestowitzBanshee lead devOct 21 22:29
Ender2070miguel linked a pro apple op-ed articleOct 21 22:29
Ender2070earlierOct 21 22:29
schestowitz_logI don't follow his stuffOct 21 22:30
schestowitzhe's in the Microsoft categoryOct 21 22:30
Ender2070lol?Oct 21 22:30
schestowitzAnd I hardly follow that one anymoreOct 21 22:30
Ender2070your logger spokeOct 21 22:31
schestowitz noOct 21 22:31
schestowitzIt's wrong monitorOct 21 22:31
Ender2070ohhhOct 21 22:31
schestowitzI have different IRC clients in each screenOct 21 22:31
schestowitzLogger need xchat log formatOct 21 22:32
schestowitzBut I use konversationOct 21 22:32
Ender2070ahhOct 21 22:32
schestowitzcubezzz also logsOct 21 22:32
schestowitzAnd TechrightsBot-trOct 21 22:32
Ender2070yeah but i noticed cubezzz blocked meOct 21 22:33
schestowitzcubevector is Mark's main usernameOct 21 22:33
Ender2070i know he must still have me blockedOct 21 22:33
schestowitzAnyway, he's greatOct 21 22:33
Ender2070from a while agoOct 21 22:34
Ender2070im not on his logsOct 21 22:34
Ender2070i saw places where you guys were talking to me and i wasnt thereOct 21 22:34
schestowitzWhere?Oct 21 22:34
schestowitzNot trueOct 21 22:34
Ender2070yeah man, thats the only reason I can think of me being missing from themOct 21 22:35
Ender2070not the recent onesOct 21 22:35
Ender2070but the few days when you had router problems and you had to use cubezzz logsOct 21 22:36
schestowitzShOct 21 22:37
schestowitzSince Oct 18th at nightOct 21 22:37
schestowitz /sh/ah/Oct 21 22:37
schestowitzCause you cursedOct 21 22:37
schestowitzcubevector: can you unighnore Ender2070Oct 21 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] "bjsnider: in general, there has been really very little acrimony between GNOME and KDE developers either over the years"Oct 21 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] "bjsnider: that doesn't mean that acrimony doesn't pop up from people who would rather post to web forums than write code :-)"Oct 21 22:41
nenolod[INFO ]  Installing final compilerOct 21 22:43
nenolod[ERROR]    {standard input}:6116: Fatal error: can't close opts.o: No space left on deviceOct 21 22:43
nenolodfmlOct 21 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Try Something Different: Divergence IV - "A New Hope" (GTK & Emerald Theme) http://bit.ly/axnyVqOct 21 22:44
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schestowitzEnder2070: maybe just the 19th is affectedOct 21 22:47
schestowitzBut I posted UK times tooOct 21 22:47
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schestowitzSo I don't think anything published was omitting anything all in allOct 21 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[throckmortonqdirktwister/@throckmortonqdirktwister] help take away Microsoft's too-big share of the market!! http://rod.gs/7od !linux !telecomix !techrightsOct 21 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, "very few IP lawyers" is what I meant to say. MostOct 21 22:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, "very few IP lawyers have done any good". Most "IP" law we've ever gotten is pure bad any way we look at it, unfortunately.Oct 21 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn Inevitable. Instead of specialising in copyright, patent, trademark or trade secrets law they try to generalise on the unrelated...Oct 21 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] We have the largest deficit in talented people in government"Oct 21 23:02
Ender2070oh wellOct 21 23:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Working day done - sleep calls :) #WhoWantsA9to5JobAnywayOct 21 23:07
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Ender207012 days!Oct 21 23:27
Ender2070Fedora 14 out soonOct 21 23:28
Diablo-D3http://i.imgur.com/nq4C9.jpgOct 21 23:29
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MinceRlolOct 21 23:31
Ender2070lolOct 21 23:31
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oiaohmschestowitz: heres a nice breakthrough http://www.openchange.org/Oct 21 23:34
Diablo-D3my dick just explodedOct 21 23:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz http://www.libreidee.org/en/2010/09/chomsky-10-mosse-per-manipolare-ogni-giorno-la-verita/Oct 21 23:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: Nokia's First Meego Device Now Confirmed for 2011 Launch? http://nowskip.to/cwTIXwOct 21 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install (Fixed) SopCast Player In Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat (With VLC 1.1.x) http://bit.ly/b4u2tJOct 21 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @androidulro: YouTube isi updateaza aplicatia (android 2.1+) http://f.ast.ly/yHSFyOct 21 23:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @androidulro: Cel mai popular player audio, Winamp, este disponibil acum in varianta beta pentru Android (video) http://f.ast.ly/ygATsOct 21 23:39
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Ender2070Diablo-D3 - wouldnt be suprised if that ended up in a #mobbyist dentOct 21 23:40
Diablo-D3Ender2070: what?Oct 21 23:40
Diablo-D3the fact someone is destroying microsoft's last empire?Oct 21 23:40
Ender2070Diablo-D3 has problems with his dick, news at 11 http://bit.ly/232932 #boycottboy #imadouchebagmobbyistOct 21 23:40
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Diablo-D3I mean, sure, if they want to signal defeat, they canOct 21 23:41
Diablo-D3Ender2070: ahhOct 21 23:41
Diablo-D3wellOct 21 23:41
Diablo-D3they'd be rightOct 21 23:41
Diablo-D3my dick is hugeOct 21 23:41
Diablo-D3I have to special order pants that fit my dick wellOct 21 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @rsandu Do u think they'll port winamp to the rest of Linux, now there's an Android version ?Oct 21 23:41
Ender2070lol it'll be on identica now! lol hi peopleOct 21 23:41
Ender2070he quotes out of context btwOct 21 23:41
Diablo-D3Ender2070: hey man, having a giant dick is a problem!Oct 21 23:42
Diablo-D3sometimes I trip over itOct 21 23:42
Ender2070lol how do you tripOct 21 23:43
Diablo-D3like I said, I have a giant dickOct 21 23:43
*Wulf|away is now known as WireWulfOct 21 23:44
Ender2070why dont you duct tape it to your legOct 21 23:44
Diablo-D3I have a midget prostitute on the payroll now, she carries it over her shoulder like someone would carry 2x4sOct 21 23:44
Ender2070roflOct 21 23:44
hazzyIt seems as though I unminimized irssi at an inopportune momentOct 21 23:45
Ender2070hahahaOct 21 23:45
Diablo-D3hazzy: baiting mobbiestsOct 21 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What a great idea to put the link to the non flash version of your website in a flash animation http://ur1.ca/2567i (via @pm)Oct 21 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @agentsmith Maybe, if there's enough interest for it. If not, use XMMS or, better, VLC... :)Oct 21 23:46
Ender2070Free Software is CommunismOct 21 23:47
Ender2070LOLOct 21 23:47
Ender2070yeah enough baiting for this sectionOct 21 23:48
Ender2070hes going to read ALL the logs, might as well keep him lookingOct 21 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @dmaphy !Fedora will be at !OpenRheinRuhr in November. Support us http://ur1.ca/2555k and meet us http://ur1.ca/2555lOct 21 23:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @rsandu Oh, I use XMMS since ever... ;-) But winamp would be good to show we're much more than 1%Oct 21 23:52

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