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_GoblinIf you can give me the url where you are hosting it, I'll include it on my page before I sign off the night.....I'll then get my hosting issues sorted on Friday.Oct 29 00:01
Ender2070wordpress.com hosts ogg files ?Oct 29 00:02
_Goblinits given me an error.....Oct 29 00:02
_Goblin"File type does not meet security guidelines. Try another."Oct 29 00:02
schestowitz~20 minsOct 29 00:02
schestowitzEnder2070: maybe not wordpress.comOct 29 00:03
ThistleWebthe .mp3 paret will be blocked for "piracy" reasons, just as .exe, .zip etc are blocked for malwareOct 29 00:03
schestowitzThey got whackedOct 29 00:03
schestowitzFor illegal songsOct 29 00:03
schestowitzSome people run music blogs therOct 29 00:03
schestowitzUploadeed illegallyOct 29 00:03
schestowitzAnd then WordPress had to kill many blogsOct 29 00:03
schestowitzSo maybe that's the reasonOct 29 00:03
schestowitzMerely speculationOct 29 00:03
ThistleWebit will beOct 29 00:03
schestowitzThe issue goes a few months backOct 29 00:03
Ender2070what about .speexOct 29 00:04
ThistleWebnot to mention the extra hosting and bandwidthOct 29 00:04
ThistleWebI dunno if there are free audio hosting sites like blipOct 29 00:04
ThistleWebperhaps archive.com?Oct 29 00:04
ThistleWebor is it archive,orgOct 29 00:04
Ender2070let me tryOct 29 00:05
ThistleWebI know they host audio and video of talks done at linux conferencesOct 29 00:05
_Goblinschestowitz: Have you seen the coincidence here?  Its now Friday and the theme music has the lyrics "Its Friday night......"Oct 29 00:05
ThistleWebI believe they are free, as long as the content meets their guidelinesOct 29 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Fedora 14 to be available on Amazon EC2 on the same day as Fedora 14 GA: http://ur1.ca/27exnOct 29 00:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat News | Fedora 14 Has Its Head in the Cloud .::. Size~: 38.63 KBOct 29 00:08
schestowitz16 mindsOct 29 00:11
schestowitz_Goblin: see if http://techrights.org/TechBytes/TechBytes0000.ogv plays for youOct 29 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting video/ogg type .::. Size~: 0 KBOct 29 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Zack Rusin Talks About Gallium3D's TGSI IR: Lately there's been a lot of talk about Gallium3D's IR known as TGSI, ... http://bit.ly/ddI5Y8Oct 29 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Zack Rusin Talks About Gallium3D's TGSI IR .::. Size~: 17.49 KBOct 29 00:12
schestowitzStill uploadingOct 29 00:12
schestowitzopen it in FirefoxOct 29 00:12
_Goblinschestowitz: thanks!Oct 29 00:12
schestowitzOr chromeOct 29 00:12
schestowitzYou can post it now and link to itOct 29 00:12
schestowitzI upload faster than one can downloadOct 29 00:13
schestowitzThat was simpler than I had imaginedOct 29 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @graziano oh okay, thanks for pointing that out, I'll talk to the translators and make sure we get it right!Oct 29 00:13
schestowitzIn identi.ca use the !techbytes group hashOct 29 00:14
schestowitzMaybe we can organise feedback better this way, who knows...Oct 29 00:14
Ender2070archive.org worksOct 29 00:15
schestowitzmp3 will be same with mp3 at the endOct 29 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] The end is neigh for !lca2011 Early bird regos! Available for about a week more or until sold out! Better get yours now http://linux.conf.auOct 29 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: linux.conf.au 2011 | 24 - 29 Jan | Follow the Flow .::. Size~: 17.61 KBOct 29 00:15
_GoblinYep its working!Oct 29 00:16
_GoblinI'll link and leave!Oct 29 00:16
_Goblinand then look forward to tomorrow morning and any feedback!Oct 29 00:16
Ender2070is it available now?Oct 29 00:20
schestowitz_Goblin: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/10/28/techbytes-episode-0/Oct 29 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » TechBytes Pilot: Microsofts Android Tax, Fedora Site Redesign, Unity and Vala, LimeWire Kaput .::. Size~: 32.15 KBOct 29 00:23
schestowitzI'll do mp4Oct 29 00:23
schestowitz_Goblin: upload it tooOct 29 00:23
schestowitzMaybe use my <audio> thing by "view as source" for speedOct 29 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] BP dispersants are making people sick, something we all knew would happen months ago http://ur1.ca/27gzjOct 29 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Report: BP dispersants are making people sick - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 21.2 KBOct 29 00:27
hazzyI thought you lived in UK, schestowitz?Oct 29 00:27
schestowitzThe trolls already heckcleOct 29 00:29
schestowitzbrbOct 29 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Pilot is now out http://ur1.ca/27h02 http://ur1.ca/27h04 !playogg #LimeWire !ubuntu #Unity !fedora !Android #swpatsOct 29 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's election protection website is live! Watch voting problems and inquiries unfold between now and November 2: http://OurVoteLive.org/Oct 29 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » TechBytes Pilot: Microsofts Android Tax, Fedora Site Redesign, Unity and Vala, LimeWire Kaput .::. Size~: 32.15 KBOct 29 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Pilot: Microsofts Android Tax, Fedora Site Redesign, Unity and Vala, LimeWire Kaput | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.38 KBOct 29 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Our Vote Live .org .::. Size~: 7.88 KBOct 29 00:30
Ender2070I have one suggestionOct 29 00:31
Ender2070go monoOct 29 00:31
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ ffmpeg -i TechBytes0000.ogv TechBytes0000.mp3Oct 29 00:32
schestowitzFFmpeg version SVN-r0.5.1-4:0.5.1-1ubuntu1, Copyright (c) 2000-2009 Fabrice Bellard, et al.Oct 29 00:32
schestowitzCOme get me, mpeg-la/Oct 29 00:32
Ender2070i mean in regards to the audioOct 29 00:34
Ender2070im wearing headphones and I hear roy in one ear and goblin in the otherOct 29 00:34
hazzyLol, yeahOct 29 00:35
hazzyI did tooOct 29 00:35
hazzyI'm wearing headphonesOct 29 00:35
Ender2070I set vlc for monoOct 29 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Google Accidentally Supported Executions http://gawker.com/5676030/Oct 29 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF's election protection website is live! Watch voting problems and inquiries unfold between now and November 2: OurVoteLive.org/Oct 29 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] An Upgrade for #MyTube: Protect Your #Drupal Website's Visitors from Tracking https://eff.org/r.5tAOct 29 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Accidentally Supported Executions .::. Size~: 78.9 KBOct 29 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Upgrade for MyTube: Protect Your Drupal Website's Visitors from Tracking | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.11 KBOct 29 00:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-28: Tantric TSA: The art of foreplay "I wondered what government official in what dark alley dr... http://bit.ly/a67KbWOct 29 00:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: links for 2010-10-28 « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 45.07 KBOct 29 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: An Upgrade for #MyTube: Protect Your #Drupal Website's Visitors from Tracking https://eff.org/r.5tAOct 29 00:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Upgrade for MyTube: Protect Your Drupal Website's Visitors from Tracking | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.11 KBOct 29 00:38
schestowitz_Goblin: mp3 http://techrights.org/TechBytes/TechBytes0000.mp3 ... back in a mo, just need to hurry with itOct 29 00:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Government Withholds Records on Need for Expanded Surveillance Law https://eff.org/r.3tBOct 29 00:40
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_Goblinbefore I go....Oct 29 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Doing more random video encoding for no apparent reasonOct 29 00:45
_GoblinEnder2070: yep good pointOct 29 00:45
Ender2070great show though :)Oct 29 00:45
_GoblinEnder2070: thnx too kind...too charitable.....Oct 29 00:46
_GoblinEnder2070: Not so much a show, more of a test of resources and tech.....Oct 29 00:46
_GoblinRight im off....Oct 29 00:46
schestowitzgnOct 29 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right, that was the first test show of the audiocast out of the way...rough edges to iron out but its a start...Oct 29 00:48
_GoblingnOct 29 00:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I very much enjoyed doing it and it shows me how much work and time must go into the other oggcasts out there...good work folks!Oct 29 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @eff Shhhh... it's a secret.... they don't want to tell citizens why its necessary to surveil their own citizens https://eff.org/r.3tBOct 29 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @robmyers So what, all creative people before copyright... died young? were on the dole? had money trees? had rich uncles? ???Oct 29 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Government Withholds Records on Need for Expanded Surveillance Law | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 13.53 KBOct 29 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @StopACTANow RT @Joi: http://bit.ly/aLCF2i -- Study Reveals Big Opportunities in the Sharing Economy #sharism #STOP #ACTAOct 29 01:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shareable: Study Reveals Big Opportunities in the Sharing Economy .::. Size~: 59.5 KBOct 29 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz must have been in the Garden of Eden or something.Oct 29 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Are you still up for !NaNoWriMo?Oct 29 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm i am still thinking of it. someone i ran into at lunch today asked me the same thing...Oct 29 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git12 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 29 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm if i do it will be BY-SA licensed and blogged. I will also try to get Free lyrics written by others for inclusionOct 29 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm and I will try and get them recorded and released during the month as well. at least in demo form.Oct 29 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] YouTube deletes torture video http://ur1.ca/27ha2Oct 29 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Wake up !Canada Our "friends" at the CRTC renegged on the conditions the set Bell... they can start implementing in 3 months... !StopUBBOct 29 01:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice to see F14 images available as AMIs on EC2 on GA date - Nov 2 2010 - http://ur1.ca/27exn #fbOct 29 01:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat News | Fedora 14 Has Its Head in the Cloud .::. Size~: 38.62 KBOct 29 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Other X.Org Discussions At The Ubuntu 11.04 Summit: Two days ago we reported on what the graphics stack should loo... http://bit.ly/cIrN0oOct 29 01:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Other X.Org Discussions At The Ubuntu 11.04 Summit .::. Size~: 18.47 KBOct 29 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New !StopUBB post: CRTC Renegs - UBB is Coming Soon http://ur1.ca/27hhb #cdnpoliOct 29 01:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] GoodbyeOct 29 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-28: Oracle Responds to JCP Concerns Exactly the sort of public statement that needs making, bra... http://bit.ly/bLpkxVOct 29 02:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Crisis of #OpenSUSE in #Novell / #VMware Hands http://ur1.ca/27hlu #suse #buyout #susestudio #virtualizationOct 29 02:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crisis of OpenSUSE in Novell/VMB_ware Hands | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.96 KBOct 29 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101029 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 29 02:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Advances in India http://ur1.ca/27hp4Oct 29 02:25
Ender2070http://www.asylum.com/2010/10/28/real-love-doll-sidore-gets-reincarnated/Oct 29 02:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Man Has $6,500 Love Doll 'Reincarnated' - Asylum.com .::. Size~: 72.75 KBOct 29 02:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @sains Expired software license halts N.M. voting: SANTA FE, N.M., Oct. 28 -- Early voting in New Mexico was tempo... http://bit.ly/bWkyR1Oct 29 02:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] yet another pro !MS piece by the !BBC http://bbc.in/ackv8cOct 29 02:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Voted for !Drupal yet? https://www.packtpub.com/open-source-awards-home/vote-hall-of-fame-cms-finalistsOct 29 02:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @creativecommons We've raised $3k of @wikiHow's $4k challenge in just 24 hours - donate now & have your gift doubled! http://bit.ly/dvV14rOct 29 02:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Microsoft profits from record first-quarter sales .::. Size~: 49.9 KBOct 29 02:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vote for your favorite Hall of Fame CMS | Packt Publishing Technical & IT Book Store .::. Size~: 70.14 KBOct 29 02:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Donate to CC, be a Superhero | Creative Commons .::. Size~: 27.95 KBOct 29 02:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @webmink Brian Behlendorf and Apache OfBiz star Ean Schuessler win Open Source for America awards: http://icio.us/4m0a3eOct 29 02:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Government Withholds Records on Need for Expanded Surveillance Law https://eff.org/r.3tBOct 29 02:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☞ Right and Wrong: My comments on the plight of Symbian, and other links: http://t.co/TY2iQFtOct 29 02:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Google is improving the search stuff with useful features, not fancy useless wallpapers ;-)Oct 29 02:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb corporate press. They repeat the press release, no investigationOct 29 02:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz It would be very cool to write a by-sa !NaNoWriMo novel blogging it as you go. I'm just not quite that brave. :(Oct 29 02:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Do you write music too?Oct 29 03:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm I write lyrics. I try to sing them but am basically always off key but have a friend who can improve on my off key melody.Oct 29 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm when december rolls around and you have a little time read a bit of it or a previous one & u may find i am not that brave.Oct 29 03:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Office as Tool of Oppression (and #OOXML is Dying) http://ur1.ca/27i0n #ODF #Malaysia #msofficeOct 29 03:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz #Microsoft Office as Tool of Oppression (and #OOXML is Dying) http://ur1.ca/27i0n #ODF #Malaysia #msofficeOct 29 03:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz I tried listening to your pilot but the sound quality is pretty bad, and it siezed up and now it won't go at all. :(Oct 29 03:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Loggers wash their cash http://ur1.ca/27i6rOct 29 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Quotes4Writers "The hardest part of writing is knowing what to write."~ Syd Field, Screenplay: The Foundations of Screenwriting !qOct 29 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz sometimes that can work. Is idea to record music so you can have a soundtrack running on the digital version of the novel?Oct 29 03:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] started listening to the pilot ep of !TechBytes audiocastOct 29 03:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good stuff! "Khosla at Caltech: Extrapolating the Past vs Inventing the Future" - http://ur1.ca/27iau #fbOct 29 03:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Just got home from giving talk to DC ACM at AAAS, went pretty well I thought.Oct 29 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Sitter says @dixieva ate the leftover pizza off the counter, after being fed. That's why you can't have nice things! Ungrateful hound.Oct 29 04:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wasn't sure what to expect, but !TechBytes is pretty good, although @schestowitz needs to sort his mic out #goodstartOct 29 04:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Franco's crimes to be investigated http://ur1.ca/27ilwOct 29 04:27
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Guest21857love the audiocast, the english accents werent as hard as some others so it was understandableOct 29 04:33
Guest21857roy needs a better mic... tims was fineOct 29 04:34
Guest21857as for skype, im as FLOSS as the next guy but right now to record and to be able to maybe get some guests, it will do.Oct 29 04:34
Guest21857bravo to you both, count me in for the next one...Oct 29 04:36
Guest21857RSS feed for audiocast?Oct 29 04:36
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twitterbwah ha ha.  Microsoft failure.  http://techrights.org/2010/10/25/hurting-microsoft-cashflow/#comment-103572Oct 29 04:51
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twitterrevenue deferral tricks are used to fake explosive growth, but not much has changed.  That makes Windows 7 just as big a failure as Vista was.Oct 29 04:53
twitterThey had about $7 billion in income for Q1 2009 and they have about the same for Q1 2011, but they have fired thousands of employees, cut dozens of products and slashed other spending to arrive in the same place.Oct 29 04:54
twitterEven they say that the PC market grew by 11% last year, that means they are being left behind.Oct 29 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mjjzf @jonkulp IT Crowd is brilliant.Oct 29 04:57
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twitterThere's also a wave of spam comments at BN by "linda 456566"Oct 29 05:03
twitterick.Oct 29 05:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada gets #NetFlix and #CRTC renegs allows Bell to Introduce Usage Based Billing !StopUBB #internet http://ur1.ca/ddkcOct 29 05:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Added landoflisp http://landoflisp.com/ to my wishlist.Oct 29 05:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] Canada gets NetFlix & CRTC allows Bell to Introduce Usage Based Billing http://ur1.ca/ddkc via @laurelrusswurmOct 29 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i'm less worried about open wifi (mine isn't) than the fact that my email is down for the 2nd time tonight!Oct 29 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.27.55 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 29 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to Benny Goodman Live at Carnegie Hall "I've got rhythm" (somebody's "baaa-ing in the background... shades of firesheep!Oct 29 05:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Avoiding taxes http://ur1.ca/27j3vOct 29 05:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] using a custom installed e17 now, it was kind of a pain to build but totally worth it, EVERYONE should give it a tryOct 29 05:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !MeeGo 1.1 for the !N900 is available http://thehandheldblog.com/2010/10/28/meego-1-1-for-the-n900-is-here/Oct 29 05:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.32.25 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 29 06:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.35.8 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 29 06:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @AACT_India Why AACT is not including Software industry? Can we join you ? Copyright infringement happe... http://bit.ly/9VhZNvOct 29 06:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Narendra Sisodiya: @AACT_India Why AACT is no ... .::. Size~: 12.54 KBOct 29 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Excito B3 Mini ARM Powered Server: Many interesting things come from Sweden whether it is Tunnbrödsrulle to Glögg ... http://bit.ly/bdoqFkOct 29 06:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I know e17 has been in development for 10 years now, and it really shows, everything is so completely thought out and implemented perfectly.Oct 29 06:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Igelle DSV is an interesting Linux distro http://www.igelle.com/ it can be a future of better linux http://bit.ly/bzxTwnOct 29 07:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Igelle - The world's most flexible operating system .::. Size~: 9.24 KBOct 29 07:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bpglobalpr/@bpglobalpr] BPGlobalPR: No fair, @LeroyStick is at the @huffingtonpost "2010 Game Changers" event in NYC. BP wasn't invited. I'... http://ping.fm/FcVZnOct 29 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Choose !html5 over Flash for your !linux bwrosing. Yet another Adobe Flash bug being exploited: http://ur1.ca/27kbgOct 29 08:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot IT Story | Adobe Warns of Critical Flash Bug, Already Being Exploited .::. Size~: 141.65 KBOct 29 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !MeeGo 1.1 Release http://is.gd/gqRZm includes Core OS, Netbook UX, In-Vehicle Infotainment (IVI) UX, Handset UX and SDK BetaOct 29 08:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo 1.1 Release | MeeGo .::. Size~: 24 KBOct 29 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @linuxfoundation rules against use of the Smeegol name http://is.gd/gqWFR !MeeGoOct 29 08:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Foundation rules against use of the Smeegol name - All About MeeGo .::. Size~: 11.48 KBOct 29 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ender2070 What do you do when someone stalks your blog, sends harassing emails, dents everyone in your volunteer groups &gets you fired?Oct 29 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @rahulsundaram meegolem - adding rpmfusion, !Fedora and planetccrma repositories to meego http://ur1.ca/27kkdOct 29 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Interesting Unity Concept For Managing Multiple Desktops [Mockups] http://bit.ly/96BkmkOct 29 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @robmyers @ender2070 To know him is to ignore him. Nobody takes him seriously. At all. >> #mobbyists #harassmentOct 29 08:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night identiverse,,, she says stumbling off too bed... too many politics interfereing with lifeOct 29 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If You Want to Download All 900 Gigabytes of Geocities, Now You Can - http://bit.ly/cYrvm4 interesting use of torrents #geocitiesOct 29 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Home Office does u-turn on Internet Explorer 6 - http://bit.ly/dA3xEE great; now let's have Firefox as an option #browsers #uk #firefoxOct 29 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @billt Happy Birthday ARPANET :-) First message sent from UCLA to SRI on October 29 1969 http://bit.ly/dwEH0l >>+1 #arpanetOct 29 08:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @glynmoody RT @billt Happy Birthday ARPANET :-) First message sent from UCLA to SRI on October 29 1969 http://bit.ly/dwEH0l >>+1 #arpanetOct 29 08:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SRI Technology: the ARPANET .::. Size~: 13.86 KBOct 29 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MeeGo 1.1 Has Arrived For Intel Atom & ARMv7 http://ur1.ca/27kq1 "Besides the core MeeGo OS hitting 1.1, the MeeGo SDK 1.1 has reached beta"Oct 29 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: MeeGo 1.1 Has Arrived For Intel Atom & ARMv7 http://ur1.ca/27kq1Oct 29 08:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] MeeGo 1.1 Has Arrived For Intel Atom & ARMv7 .::. Size~: 15.99 KBOct 29 08:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] MeeGo 1.1 Has Arrived For Intel Atom & ARMv7 .::. Size~: 15.99 KBOct 29 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb @laurelrusswurm thanks, it was more like proof of concept. At least we see many hundreds of downloads already. !techbytesOct 29 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @glynmoody:Oct 29 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Made for India, Epic Browser Speeds Up - http://bit.ly/cZxUVK based on Firefox - interesting development #india #firefoxOct 29 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @glynmoody: Oh, strict policies and bureaucracy! Here, people would install whatever browser (or version) they want, without even asking...Oct 29 08:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Made for India, Epic Browser Speeds Up .::. Size~: 53.84 KBOct 29 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @dyfet methods, concepts, and code that was previously licensed explicitly for re-use; looks like Oracle is truly pulling a SCOOct 29 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] James Cameron on “Avatar 2″ and the Impending Environmental Crisis - http://on.mash.to/a67KaS Eric Schmidt interviews (no, really) #avatarOct 29 08:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cloud, meet Rainbow - http://mzl.la/b1wHe3 "Enabling video & audio recording in the browser." more good stuff from #mozilla labsOct 29 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fontana] Profiles of !fedora users including @sparks @robynbergeron @ashcrow @fabsh @mairin http://ur1.ca/27ksvOct 29 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source for America Announces Winners of Inaugural Open Source Awards Program - http://bit.ly/aHZKFA ho-hum #opensourceOct 29 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: RT @billt Happy Birthday ARPANET :-) First message sent from UCLA to SRI on October 29 1969 http://bit.ly/dwEH0l >>+1 #arpanetOct 29 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Let’s do an International Open Data Hackathon - http://bit.ly/9p2Ym6 good idea #opendata #hackathonOct 29 09:05
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lets do an International Open Data Hackathon | eaves.ca .::. Size~: 32.85 KBOct 29 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Oracle, Android and the copy claims: SCO all over again? - http://bit.ly/9kue0y @cdaffara does the diffsOct 29 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle, Android and the copy claims: SCO all over again? | carlodaffara.conecta.it .::. Size~: 66.28 KBOct 29 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Toys R Us Adds Android Tablet to the Shelf http://ur1.ca/27kw7 "The tablet will come with a 7 inch or 10 inch screen." !linuxOct 29 09:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Toys R Us Adds Android Tablet to the Shelf : AndroidSPIN | Your No.1 source for Everything Android. .::. Size~: 48.04 KBOct 29 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody that article you cited does not say that Gates invests (i.e. profits from) many companies that pollute. It's a PR piece IMHO.Oct 29 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: Nokia's First MeeGo Device Will Arrive in 2011, CEO Confirms ... http://nowskip.to/czPP9MOct 29 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: MeeGo 1.1 ships with touch-enabled netbook, IVI, and handset ... http://nowskip.to/c2saggOct 29 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: MeeGo Linux 1.1 for netbooks, smartphones, in-car PCs now ... http://nowskip.to/9ILxATOct 29 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia's First MeeGo Device Will Arrive in 2011, CEO Confirms - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 139.52 KBOct 29 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo 1.1 ships with touch-enabled netbook, IVI, and handset stacks - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.02 KBOct 29 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo Linux 1.1 for netbooks, smartphones, in-car PCs now available .::. Size~: 37.88 KBOct 29 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody on other occasions Gates was accused of explicitly saying global warming is not a priority and he puts $$ in denial - Exxon, BPOct 29 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[E]asy to say: "I stand for freedom", even Bush says he stands for freedom...doesn't even recognize freedom after he's crushed it." -- @RMSOct 29 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Successfully reversed engineered the coffee machine to solve a nasty case of clogged filter holster. #Needcoffee now at bay :-)Oct 29 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: China a trecut in fruntea clasamentului celor mai rapide SUPERCOMPUTERE: http://bit.ly/bgFfQu Eu: rulează #Linux- top500.orgOct 29 09:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China a trecut in fruntea clasamentului celor mai rapide supercomputere - IT - HotNews.ro .::. Size~: 98.26 KBOct 29 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Malta government starts consultation to increase use of open source http://ur1.ca/27l08 "wherever it is cost-effective"Oct 29 09:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Microsoft Office as Tool of Oppression (and #OOXML is Dying) http://ur1.ca/27i0n #ODF #Malaysia #msofficeOct 29 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Office as Tool of Oppression (and OOXML is Dying) | Techrights .::. Size~: 111.02 KBOct 29 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody My #hypePad Magazine Stand - http://bit.ly/9j3YlR good post about magazine apps: "bloated, user-unfriendly" #apps #publishingOct 29 09:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Subtraction.com: My iPad Magazine Stand .::. Size~: 86.86 KBOct 29 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Symbian: A Lesson on the Wrong Way to Use Open Source - http://bit.ly/9SzhMp sadly so #symbian #opensource #smartphonesOct 29 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Symbian: A Lesson on the Wrong Way to Use Open Source: Tech News « .::. Size~: 70.46 KBOct 29 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Moscow teacher fired for supporting open source http://is.gd/grebI #moscow #gnu #linux #fossOct 29 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Teacher 'Fired' Over Software Plea http://is.gd/grels #moscow #russia #gnu #free #linux #russiaOct 29 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody re "given the considerable (if generally unfortunate) influence he has." >I know wt you mean, it's why papers do this re financeOct 29 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Malta government starts consultation to increase use of open source http://ur1.ca/27l08 "wherever it is cost-effective"Oct 29 09:40
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/glynmoody/status/29067604065Oct 29 09:40
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schestowitz"yes, I know about those; his comment is still very helpful given the considerable (if generally unfortunate) influence he has."Oct 29 09:40
schestowitzBlech.Oct 29 09:40
schestowitzSo this abuser has influenceOct 29 09:40
schestowitzTherefore we should give credit to his own words?Oct 29 09:41
schestowitz"perhaps he's changed his mind (as he did on things like open access...)" http://twitter.com/#!/glynmoody/status/29067706284Oct 29 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What if the future of media is no “dominant players” at all? - http://bit.ly/9rY8LE yup #publishingOct 29 09:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What if the future of media is no dominant players at all?  — Scott Rosenberg's Wordyard .::. Size~: 32.69 KBOct 29 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mariuz: #Microsoft Tries to Prevent Asus, Acer from Using Android !Linux , #ChromeOS http://ur1.ca/27exg If you can't compete, litigateOct 29 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody it's more of a flip-flop. He makes money from one side, then advocates the exact opposite: energy, tobacco, OA, polio, tax, waterOct 29 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Tries to Prevent Asus, Acer from Using Android, ChromeOS .::. Size~: 27.13 KBOct 29 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ODF Plugfest: Making office tools interoperable - http://bit.ly/dkQ02O testament to incredible vitality of #ODF ecosystem (via @rcweir)Oct 29 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @joabj Wi-Fi won't kill the office LAN ... yet (Network World): http://bit.ly/9AYNsCOct 29 09:50
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wi-Fi won't kill the office LAN ... yet .::. Size~: 106.79 KBOct 29 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi ♻ @Valleywag re "Microsoft Hates Bill Gates' Rich People Tax" > Bill Gates _DOES NOT_ pay tax! He legalised his evasion with PR+lobbyOct 29 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How science funding is putting scientific data at risk - http://bit.ly/crQbb9 the yottabyte elephant in the lab #science #dataOct 29 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Making some coffee and having a read in the #NewVegas game guide. The one for Fallout 3 was awesome and this one looks very cool too!Oct 29 09:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How science funding is putting scientific data at risk .::. Size~: 32.59 KBOct 29 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Interesting !Unity Concept For Managing Multiple Desktops [Mockups] http://goo.gl/4bEZ !ubuntuOct 29 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VP8 Codec SDK "Aylesbury" Release http://ur1.ca/27lag Let's put patent troll-led MPEG-LA in /dev/nullOct 29 09:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interesting Unity Concept For Managing Multiple Desktops [Mockups] ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 69.52 KBOct 29 09:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VP8 Codec SDK  "Aylesbury" Release - The WebM Open Media Project Blog .::. Size~: 25.54 KBOct 29 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu Poll: Which would you choose as default: #Banshee or #Rhythmbox? http://goo.gl/8KPrOct 29 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Which would you choose as default: Banshee or Rhythmbox? [Poll] .::. Size~: 128.92 KBOct 29 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: Father of Social Networking worms comes to Linux and Mac OS X via Java http://goo.gl/H4Tg Use your left mouse button carefully!Oct 29 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi ♻ @jonobacon: Tom's Hardware benchmark Maverick - conclusion: http://is.gd/gp22q #ubuntuOct 29 10:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Father of Social Networking worms comes to Linux and Mac OS X via Java .::. Size~: 38.81 KBOct 29 10:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conclusion : Ubuntu 10.10: Maverick Meerkat Benchmarked And Reviewed .::. Size~: 111.96 KBOct 29 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @robmyers "If there were no copyright, it would be impossible for creative people to make a living" - http://ur1.ca/27fijOct 29 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The British Library's Future: Shiny, Locked-Down Knowledge? - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 66.5 KBOct 29 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PLoS Computational Biology to publish articles on #OSS sw providing "new biological insights" - http://bit.ly/cIBmq5 (via @phylogenomics)Oct 29 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @robmyers It pisses me off that Microsoft use the BBC and the British Library as attack vectors on the freedom of UK citizens. >and NHSOct 29 10:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PLoS Computational Biology: A Peer-Reviewed Open-Access Journal .::. Size~: 64.89 KBOct 29 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm re "They may not be firing Canadian teachers" // look up the Montgomery Linux lab story... ~2006 (Waterloo IIRC)Oct 29 10:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @toros Ubuntu Developer Summit: Dropping !KDE Desktop http://goo.gl/4Wge kubuntuOct 29 10:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @evan Ad server changes on identi.ca http://ur1.ca/27fz9 > hopefully no Apple/Microsoft popup ads comingOct 29 10:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German resource centre helps public administrations implement open source - http://bit.ly/bjDvOo #opensource #deOct 29 10:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What would be a good log reading gui app for !Fedora !Linux !GNUOct 29 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] If you access @gmail using a variety of protocols, their "Last account activity" feature helps maintain sanity. http://ow.ly/31kUfOct 29 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last account activity- Gmail Help .::. Size~: 27.94 KBOct 29 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @zotz This must be what the British Library think. Which is bizarre given they hold the UK's collection of literary evidence to the contraryOct 29 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Emin forger jailed - http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/oct/28/tracey-emin-forger-jailedOct 29 10:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Tracey Emin forger jailed | Art and design | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 68.83 KBOct 29 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Breaching the great firewall - http://econ.st/9K6nX6 useful summary of #microblogging in #chinaOct 29 10:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blogging in China: Breaching the great firewall | The Economist .::. Size~: 54.25 KBOct 29 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Went through some old photos last night looking to change avatar. Put my baby photo up. Finally uploaded http://ur1.ca/27llg tooOct 29 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith] Very cool the page preview of Google search. Nice! > seen that tooOct 29 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Next public steering committee phone conference on Wednesday: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_MeetingsOct 29 10:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The British Library's Future: Shiny, Locked-Down Knowledge? [updated] - http://bit.ly/dd6oRG with link to interesting comment from BL chiefOct 29 10:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The British Library's Future: Shiny, Locked-Down Knowledge? - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 68.39 KBOct 29 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] via @openbytes !TechBytes Audiocast http://ur1.ca/27lo1 MP3 fallback @ http://ur1.ca/27lo3Oct 29 10:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi ♻ @claudiom Really, why do people even bother with this trash? http://ur1.ca/27glm #AdobeTrashOct 29 10:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Adobe Flash Bug Being Exploited  | threatpost .::. Size~: 58.17 KBOct 29 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes can prepare the first episode on Sunday (maybe !Fedora 14 special) and release Monday Nov. 1st?Oct 29 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] A click, a touch, a Web event. Welcome to the micro-blogging world @w3cwebevents (W3C Web Events WG)!Oct 29 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Group Genius and Collective Intelligence - http://bit.ly/buS5E5 why #sharing is good, and intellectual monopolies bad #innovationOct 29 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @glynmoody Group Genius and Collective Intelligence - http://bit.ly/buS5E5 why #sharing is good, & intellectual monopolies bad #innovationOct 29 10:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxkernel Linux kernel 2.6.36-git12 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 29 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Blasphemy Laws a Serious Threat to Human Rights - http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=70&release=1262Oct 29 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] if #Hogent wants me to read my @ student.hogent mailbox they should stop spamming me with reminders of spam.Oct 29 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm ... "The hardest part of writing is knowing what to write."~ Syd Field, Screenplay: The Foundations of Screenwriting !qOct 29 11:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes RSS feed (OGG+MP3) has been set up @ http://techrights.org/category/techbytes/feed/ Episode one coming now. Why not subscribe?Oct 29 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Using an IMG instead of an ISO to put Debian on a USB Flash drive http://ht.ly/19Heb9Oct 29 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Animator is a cool tool for animating svg http://antimatter15.com/ajaxanimator/wave/ #svg http://bit.ly/c6QeGxOct 29 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz No offense, but you're better off with the baby pic. ;-)Oct 29 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazilian intervention at TRIPS Council: ACTA - http://bit.ly/dbSnIk "repression alone not substitute for a much-needed integrated approach"Oct 29 11:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mexican Crime, American Guns - http://bit.ly/aA4vDv ah yes: 4 guns good, 2 guns bad... #mexico #us #guns (via @asteris)Oct 29 12:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith gives guilt to #mobbyists who attack ;-) j/kOct 29 12:03
oiaohmschestowitz: about the techbytes ogv find a better storage location with resume if future one are going to be as long.  I have had bad luck getting it.Oct 29 12:05
schestowitzwhat location is better?Oct 29 12:05
oiaohmIts the lack of resume.Oct 29 12:06
oiaohmmaybe its my client end as well.Oct 29 12:06
oiaohmOk at least yours is better than some. Ie the worse is something like rapidshare.Oct 29 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MEEGO impresses! http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/d7389cecd625b117#Oct 29 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "Free culture is about doing it." - http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/24149Oct 29 12:08
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oiaohmMeego still has annoying banshee in the netbook versions.Oct 29 12:09
oiaohmBut at least there is signs of pure QT audio in other sections.Oct 29 12:09
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f23a32fbe5cfd82#Oct 29 12:10
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schestowitzoiaohm: which server does reume?Oct 29 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Yeah, gives ammunition to them. ;-)Oct 29 12:10
schestowitz*resumeOct 29 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith [sarcasm] who would atatck a youngster? http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=Jennifer+Katharine+GatesOct 29 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Austerity isn't affecting top executives, you'll be relieved to hear - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11649789Oct 29 12:13
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oiaohmIts a hosting setting.  Apache/most http servers and most ftp servers can do resume if it enabled.  schestowitzOct 29 12:14
oiaohmI know other sites that host pod casts have allowed resume.Oct 29 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Resending @robmyers: Austerity isn't affecting top executives, you'll be relieved to hear - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11649789Oct 29 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Oh, she's a babe... What a Romeo & Juliet scenario, if she falls in love with a KDE developer? Ehehehe. LOLOct 29 12:15
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schestowitzoiaohm: Should I tell tessier? I never set this upOct 29 12:15
oiaohmYep.  It will save bandwidth long term.   schestowitzOct 29 12:16
oiaohmIe part download resumed is lot cheeper on server than person being forced to download it again.Oct 29 12:16
oiaohmI thought you were hosting it not on tessiers system.  I never though tessier would miss setting resume for a item like this.Oct 29 12:17
oiaohmO well everyone human.Oct 29 12:17
schestowitzHow can you tell it's not enabled?Oct 29 12:17
schestowitzI don't know how to test itOct 29 12:18
schestowitzBut in any case we also use cacheOct 29 12:18
schestowitzSo the resume thing may not take effectOct 29 12:18
oiaohmSimple fact that my download when broken have failed to resume.Oct 29 12:18
oiaohmI did not look for tags of resume.Oct 29 12:18
schestowitzI see.Oct 29 12:19
oiaohmIt might be vanish cache messing up resume as well.Oct 29 12:19
schestowitzI'll ask tessier when he's not busy. he has been so extremely helpfulOct 29 12:19
oiaohmBasically we have a bug.Oct 29 12:19
oiaohmBetter found now.Oct 29 12:19
schestowitzYes, before episode oneOct 29 12:19
schestowitzProbably about FedoraOct 29 12:19
schestowitzBrandon wants to be a guestOct 29 12:20
schestowitzFedora 14 episodeOct 29 12:20
oiaohmNow this is going to get interesting.Oct 29 12:20
oiaohmWounder how the shills are going to take this.Oct 29 12:21
schestowitzSee the -social IRC channelOct 29 12:21
schestowitzI mentioned some thereOct 29 12:21
schestowitzThe trolls already advertise it by mentioning the showOct 29 12:21
schestowitzin COLA too... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/db0f1c8a883e4199#Oct 29 12:22
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oiaohmThey trolls never learnt the leason go gandi either.Oct 29 12:22
schestowitzMicrosoft Uses Psychopaths To Deter People From Learning About Linux  http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/b0d2526d3a43cd7b#Oct 29 12:24
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schestowitzoiaohm: what was the lesson?Oct 29 12:25
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/22dcbedaed46c737#Oct 29 12:27
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schestowitz"Oct 29 12:27
schestowitzDear Roy,Oct 29 12:27
schestowitzwelcome back in COLA. I missed your contributions that tell me what isOct 29 12:27
schestowitzgoing in in Linux land. It is a welcome change after all the trolls'Oct 29 12:27
schestowitzquarrels that drown the real contributions.Oct 29 12:27
oiaohmBasically attacking you gives you advertisement.Oct 29 12:27
schestowitzKeep up the good work.Oct 29 12:27
schestowitzGreetings.Oct 29 12:27
schestowitzErik JanOct 29 12:27
schestowitz"Oct 29 12:27
oiaohmSo pushing you higher up the gandi measure I use so more likely to kick your ass.Oct 29 12:28
oiaohmBasically ingorning would have been the most correct action.Oct 29 12:28
oiaohmAnd working on selling better.Oct 29 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Screencast Episode | MintNanny http://bit.ly/cuHZe6 #LinuxMint !dps my best and longest ep yet, finally up after several false startsOct 29 12:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Super Mutant radio stations? ROFL!!! :D #NewVegasOct 29 12:30
oiaohmBasically we like wise old monks schestowitzOct 29 12:30
cubezzzwhere? :)Oct 29 12:30
oiaohmPeople try to drown us out from talking but all they do is draw attention in our direction.Oct 29 12:31
cubezzza real wise old monk would make their own OSOct 29 12:31
oiaohmWhy waste effort duplicating with others do very well.Oct 29 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] !FaiFCast Episode 0x01 is finally out! http://ur1.ca/27mg6 Download it now and/or subscribe to the RSS Feed.Oct 29 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I will probably get back to COLA soon. Been struggling to find time.. 18 days of absence http://ur1.ca/27mm3#Oct 29 12:32
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cubezzzoiaohm, obviously so you can make it do _exactly_ what you wantOct 29 12:32
cubezzzor for funOct 29 12:33
oiaohmAnd how can I not do that with source Linux distributions?  cubezzzOct 29 12:34
cubezzzwell for one thing, Linux is getting rather bigOct 29 12:34
cubezzzI seriously doubt one person could understand the whole thingOct 29 12:34
cubezzzGNU/Linux distro I meanOct 29 12:34
oiaohmThat is the wise point.Oct 29 12:35
oiaohmEven at the hardware level there is that much out there now that no one person could understand it all.Oct 29 12:35
oiaohmIt would be foolishness to attempt to go 100 percent alone these days.Oct 29 12:35
oiaohmOS development is a group project.Oct 29 12:35
cubezzzwell you could write a simple OSOct 29 12:36
oiaohmDone.Oct 29 12:36
oiaohmMany times.Oct 29 12:36
oiaohmThese days cut down Linux or freertos gets me to results faster.Oct 29 12:36
oiaohmYes in the past of rtos writing your own OS was a requirement to get the performance.Oct 29 12:37
gnufreexschestowitz: I am listening the show right now. Great work!Oct 29 12:37
cubezzzimagine writing your own OS on some obscure CPUOct 29 12:38
cubezzzno one could hack youOct 29 12:38
oiaohmJust started trying to get file with wget..  schestowitz Yep it still fails.  2010-10-29 21:33:30 (56.9 KB/s) - Read error at byte 35195985/40134865 (Connection reset by peer). Retrying.  << Might be useful for tessierOct 29 12:38
oiaohmThen retry fails ie resume.Oct 29 12:39
cubezzzuse a torrent maybe?Oct 29 12:39
cubezzzgreat way to distribute filesOct 29 12:39
oiaohmJust fix web site so it can resume.Oct 29 12:39
oiaohmI don't do torrents normally.  cubezzzOct 29 12:40
cubezzzLinus may have had access to BSD, but he still wanted to write his own OSOct 29 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @bkuhn "The Free as in Freedom oggcast is now licensed CC-By-SA 3.0 Unported " that's great news. :)Oct 29 12:47
gnufreexcubezzz: Linus didn't know about BSDOct 29 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm not particularly, more cross promotion at this point. if I do that route and others decide to participate.Oct 29 12:52
gnufreexBSD was opensourced later, when he already started Linux.Oct 29 12:52
oiaohmLinus has access to minix.Oct 29 12:54
oiaohmBut he did not like the design of it.Oct 29 12:54
gnufreexHe didn't like that it couldn't be improved.Oct 29 12:55
gnufreexTanenbaum rejected patchesOct 29 12:55
gnufreexAnd he owned copyright.Oct 29 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn !FaiFCast Episode 0x01 is finally out! http://ur1.ca/27mg6 Download it now and/or subscribe to the RSS Feed.Oct 29 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @robmyers perhaps we need a table: Great Work | Author | Died | Avg Lifespan of Contemporaries with a line across when copyright arrived.Oct 29 12:55
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gnufreexSo if you improve it, he might decide to sue.Oct 29 12:55
gnufreexSo somebody had to start from scrach.Oct 29 12:55
oiaohmReally tanenbaum and linus had different points of view.Oct 29 12:55
oiaohmlinus liked monolithic and tanaenbuam was micro kernel.Oct 29 12:56
oiaohmAnd they still do have blow up arguements over it from time to time.Oct 29 12:56
gnufreexI don't think Linus had a opinion about that back thenOct 29 12:56
gnufreexRead old mailsOct 29 12:56
oiaohmHe did.Oct 29 12:56
gnufreexHe said microkernel is sexy.Oct 29 12:56
gnufreexBut he didn't know how to write one, and he know it is a lot of work.Oct 29 12:57
oiaohmLook at the patches he sent in to minix to improve performance.Oct 29 12:57
gnufreexSo he cobled together a monolithic one.Oct 29 12:57
oiaohmBefore that he sent tanenbaum patches.Oct 29 12:57
oiaohmThat altered some of minix monolithic and increased performance.Oct 29 12:57
oiaohmyes rejected out right.Oct 29 12:58
gnufreexTorvalds chose monolithic because it is easy to get it right.Oct 29 13:01
gnufreexMicrokernel needs a *lot* of thought about design, and you have to throw lot of code down the drain and re-do again.Oct 29 13:02
gnufreextanenbaum was probably right in long run.Oct 29 13:02
cubezzzis there not a FOSS microkernel OS?Oct 29 13:03
gnufreexMINIX, Hurd, SymbianOct 29 13:03
gnufreexBut Linux sucked all brains.Oct 29 13:04
gnufreexSo there is not lot of people hacking on those.Oct 29 13:04
cubezzzhmmm, I must give Hurd a try somedayOct 29 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Changed VM provider last night as slicehost was only getting slower and slower.Oct 29 13:05
gnufreexHurd is a victim of MachOct 29 13:05
gnufreexHurd is great design, but Mach is crap.Oct 29 13:05
MinceRthere's another microkernel for hurd alreadyOct 29 13:06
MinceRor at least in developmentOct 29 13:06
gnufreexViengoos. It didn't get finished.Oct 29 13:06
MinceRwas it abandoned?Oct 29 13:06
gnufreexNeal Walfield done that for his research. But he got reasigned, and it is on hold right now.Oct 29 13:06
gnufreexHe was only dev.Oct 29 13:07
gnufreexMach almost destroyed computer industry. Digital lost lots of money trying to get it work, same with IBM and HP. also Apple. None of them made it work like it should.Oct 29 13:08
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MinceRno, what almost destroyed the industry is m$Oct 29 13:09
gnufreexIBM abandoned it, Digital used it in OSF, Apple cobled it together with BSD to make it work.Oct 29 13:09
gnufreexMinceR: Yes, M$. But Mach was designed by Rashid, who works for M$ now :-/Oct 29 13:10
MinceRso what? gentoo was designed by a guy who worked for m$ later for a whileOct 29 13:10
MinceRm$ brainwashing doesn't work retroactively :>Oct 29 13:11
gnufreexI know, I am kidding.Oct 29 13:11
oiaohmHurd is a victuim of not planing how to debug into a design.Oct 29 13:13
gnufreexMach is not microkernel at all. It is half of monolithic kernel. And it is expected to run other half in user space. But then IPC slow everything down.Oct 29 13:13
oiaohmMach really has nothing todo with Hurd downfall.Oct 29 13:13
oiaohmLinux being a monolithic was simpler to debug.Oct 29 13:14
oiaohmie hit a bug go splat don't keep on running.Oct 29 13:14
gnufreexoiaohm: Tell me one company that did mach right?Oct 29 13:14
oiaohmHurd self repairing design goes as follows.   secure contained userspace part crashes.  kernel detects auto restart it.  Now the restart causes something else to crash then once you have a circle of this.Oct 29 13:15
oiaohmWith disrupted logs.Oct 29 13:15
MinceR141113 < gnufreex> Mach is not microkernel at all. It is half of monolithic kernel. And it is expected to run other half in user space. But then IPC slow everything down.Oct 29 13:15
MinceRhuh?Oct 29 13:15
oiaohmIt gets insanely had to work out what the hell screwed up and started the mess.Oct 29 13:15
MinceRplease explain.Oct 29 13:15
oiaohmEven RMS admits that HURD failed to get it feet under it before Linux because the balled the design up.Oct 29 13:16
MinceRwell, i haven't seen that admissionOct 29 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♻ @osamak @bkuhn "FaiF oggcast now licensed CC-By-SA 3.0 Unported" that's great news. :) < agreed!Oct 29 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @caostheory Carlo Dafarra dissects Oracle's claims of direct copying of Java code into Android. http://bit.ly/9KUGdeOct 29 13:17
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gnufreexMinceR: Mach is not desigend like Microkernel should be designed. It is like monolithc krenel with parts removed.Oct 29 13:17
oiaohmIt was 1994 MinceROct 29 13:17
gnufreexmincer: and you are expected to make those parts work in userspace.Oct 29 13:17
oiaohmWhen RMS was asked about why Linux got up before HURD did.  Thinking Hurd started years before Linux.Oct 29 13:17
gnufreexhttp://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd-and-linux.htmlOct 29 13:18
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gnufreexThat?Oct 29 13:18
oiaohmIt was a particular conf question about Hurd lack of progress compared to Linux.  gnufreexOct 29 13:20
oiaohmAfter 1994 Hurd introduced a nice sane debuging mode.Oct 29 13:20
gnufreexoiaohm: I know what you think, when he said "we needed many years to get it working"Oct 29 13:20
gnufreexThat can be because of multiserver architecture.Oct 29 13:21
gnufreexAll other OSs on Mach are single serversOct 29 13:21
gnufreexWhich makes them hybrid. Not a microkernelOct 29 13:21
oiaohmThe multiserver architecture was designed missing the all important debuging system for it.Oct 29 13:21
gnufreexYes.Oct 29 13:21
oiaohmIe the bad bad after thought problem.Oct 29 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git13 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 29 13:22
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oiaohmCost them over 4 years of development pulling there hair out.Oct 29 13:22
gnufreexYes, that is pretty much true.Oct 29 13:23
oiaohmAnd basically caused HURD to miss the years of insane internet expand.  That put the feet under Linux.Oct 29 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Baldy - A Bahamian Shaggy Dog Story http://baldynovel.blogspot.com/Oct 29 13:23
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gnufreexNobody before did a multiserver on Mach. There is no way they could know that.Oct 29 13:23
oiaohmNot exactly true.  VMS.Oct 29 13:24
gnufreexVMS is not microkernel, it is huge monolithic blob. And it has nothing to do with mach.Oct 29 13:24
oiaohmVMS depends on userspace services for a lot of things.Oct 29 13:25
oiaohmand early stages of development it had the same nasty issues hurd hit.Oct 29 13:25
gnufreexThat was maybe on VAX.Oct 29 13:25
gnufreexIt is concurently designed with hardwareOct 29 13:26
gnufreexVMS on itanium is monolithic.Oct 29 13:26
gnufreexOr hybrid.Oct 29 13:26
oiaohmYes I am talking way back in the VAX age.Oct 29 13:26
oiaohmVMS was always a hybrid not a full microkernel.Oct 29 13:27
oiaohmBut its userspace parts did suffer from one crashing the next crashing the next.Oct 29 13:27
gnufreexIt is kinda easy to make microkernel when you also design hardware.Oct 29 13:27
oiaohmMaking debuging insane hard.Oct 29 13:27
oiaohmUntil in introduced the one thing you need at times.Oct 29 13:27
oiaohmFirst error die.Oct 29 13:28
oiaohmThat hurd added latter.Oct 29 13:28
oiaohmYes a microkernel debuging mode.  Remove it resistane to death so you can see what sets all the dominos falling.Oct 29 13:28
gnufreexToday's procesors are not designed for Microkernels.Oct 29 13:28
oiaohmNot true.Oct 29 13:29
oiaohmWhat makes microkernels perform well.Oct 29 13:29
oiaohmMutli service design suits mutli core.Oct 29 13:29
gnufreexIt is not that much about multi coreOct 29 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off into town to get some essential shopping sorted...Oct 29 13:30
gnufreexMore about context switches.Oct 29 13:30
oiaohmarm chips don't have expensive context switches.Oct 29 13:31
gnufreexYeah, that is why Symbian is sucess.Oct 29 13:31
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oiaohmmutli service does suite multi core from the point of view each subsystem is normally kept self contained.Oct 29 13:32
gnufreexYeah, but there is one problem there. IPC gets more expenisve with multy core.Oct 29 13:33
oiaohmSo you don't need to sync as much between cores as monolithics can cause.Oct 29 13:33
gnufreexPeople only got that now.Oct 29 13:33
gnufreexNobody thought about that in 90'sOct 29 13:33
oiaohmNot all IPC options are highly expensive on multi core.Oct 29 13:34
gnufreexOn Mach, everything is expensive. Not sure about other Microkernels, though.Oct 29 13:35
gnufreexMach is 50% slower on singe core.Oct 29 13:36
gnufreexAnd singe serverOct 29 13:36
oiaohmMach really does not use NUMA correctly either.Oct 29 13:36
gnufreexWith multy server and multicore, it slows down even moreOct 29 13:36
gnufreexI don't know it it uses NUMA at all.Oct 29 13:37
oiaohmMutli server requires specialist design to work well.Oct 29 13:37
oiaohmNon Unified Memory Allocation.Oct 29 13:37
gnufreexI know that. But I tihnk Mach is not NUMA aware at all.Oct 29 13:37
oiaohmIe that indvidual cpus get there own memory zones independant to other cpus that then can do what ever they like to.Oct 29 13:37
oiaohmMach was not NUMA aware.Oct 29 13:38
gnufreexIt has kernel level clustering, which is terible.Oct 29 13:38
oiaohmAnd NUMA is kinda required to get low context switch IPC working with transfer buffers.Oct 29 13:38
oiaohmIe zones of shared memory.Oct 29 13:38
oiaohmYes more modern cpus are becoming more NUMA aware.Oct 29 13:39
oiaohmBasically using what techs are in a modern x86 you should be able to built a better microkernel than what you were before.Oct 29 13:40
oiaohmBut it has to be a multi core x86Oct 29 13:40
oiaohmSingle core x86 will still leave you in context switch hell.Oct 29 13:41
gnufreexI hoped Viengoos would be great, but it is on hold right now.Oct 29 13:42
gnufreexIt does resource scheduling in user space.Oct 29 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] on my way home from 4 days in !Fsfe Berlin officeOct 29 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] awesome, Sintel just arrived on my doorstep… #blender #openfilmOct 29 13:43
gnufreexThere is instruction how to build it in VM. http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/viengoos/building.htmlOct 29 13:44
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gnufreex*for VM, not inOct 29 13:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] Sintel joins her #blender siblings, Elephants Dream & Big Buck Bunny #geekshelf http://ur1.ca/27nf0Oct 29 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @fcforum: Not only does fashion survive without Copyright, it thrives precisely because designers can sample freely from other works.Oct 29 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @zotz Nice. Or a t-shirt... ;-)Oct 29 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @schestowitz Very true. Government IT in general is ridden with Microsoft in the UK.Oct 29 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] A second-first feels as good as a first. Maybe even better. Thanks @twostrawsOct 29 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !FPGA's to be integrated with !ARM and !MIPS cores, #Altera says http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Altera-embedded-initiative/Oct 29 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/2010/10/27/viral-patent/ #mimiandeuniceOct 29 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I'm amazed at what some people do on their phones during important meeting. Sure, I'm denting but the guy next to me is playing video games!Oct 29 14:25
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oiaohmHmm that virus patent one.Oct 29 14:28
oiaohmI wonder if anyone would be insane enough todo that for real.Oct 29 14:29
gnufreexThere are food patents alreadyOct 29 14:29
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gnufreexYou eat that food, and they might sue you and get injuction against your kidneys.Oct 29 14:29
oiaohmI was more thinking computer virus.Oct 29 14:30
gnufreex"It's not my fault if you survive, I want my IP out of your body!"Oct 29 14:30
oiaohmSomething evil like encrypted harddriveOct 29 14:30
oiaohmAnd dencrypt method patented on a per use base.Oct 29 14:31
oiaohmSo the more harddrives infected more profit.Oct 29 14:31
gnufreexI don't know if there is something more evil than food patent.Oct 29 14:31
oiaohmAnd since its per use the more times a person gets infected.Oct 29 14:31
cubezzzair patent? :-POct 29 14:32
cubezzzbreathing patentOct 29 14:32
oiaohmair patentOct 29 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @linuxfoundation's #Yocto Project aims to standardize embedded #Linux builds http://is.gd/gs2W9Oct 29 14:32
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gnufreexYou eat it, and then pay every day you live or they take out you kidneys.Oct 29 14:32
oiaohmThe air patent for soemthing in the air would be more in the class of virus.Oct 29 14:32
oiaohmYou can catch it without you really have to go out your way.Oct 29 14:32
oiaohmNow of course me being evil it would be something that you require something else or you die gnufreexOct 29 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Michael Meeks on the #Oracle vs. #Android case: More API copyright nonsense http://goo.gl/UBu5Oct 29 14:33
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oiaohmStuff patenting the food.Oct 29 14:34
oiaohmPut something in the food that is toxic that you will need a cure from.Oct 29 14:34
oiaohmBe really sneeky put multiable things in food that only form toxic when eaten in combination.Oct 29 14:34
oiaohmYou could get away making money off that fore years.Oct 29 14:34
gnufreexShh... maybe bill getes is reading.Oct 29 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Og Maciel: Are You Planning a !GNOME 3.0 Launch Party? http://goo.gl/5eSQOct 29 14:37
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oiaohmMy problem is I suspect it might already be done. gnufreexOct 29 14:37
gnufreexYeah... drug companies.Oct 29 14:37
oiaohmNot like antibotic resitance was not know.Oct 29 14:38
oiaohmOr that drugs you take lot ends up down tollet as active chemical.Oct 29 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @fcforum: Philippe from Cosmonauts - a new way to make movies through free licenses, crowdfunding etc. http://www.thecosmonauts.orgOct 29 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Der SPIEGEL über #LibreOffice, #DocuFoundation, #Oracle - http://is.gd/gs5qlOct 29 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Poul-Henning Kamp's "bikeshed colour" take of meaningless technical debate (FreeBSD Mail Archives) http://bit.ly/dDbHOsOct 29 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] The vimgularity? No, that really doesn't work. Forget I mentioned it.Oct 29 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @robmyers The vimgularity? No, that really doesn't work. Forget I mentioned it.Oct 29 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Mock-up of !Unity with widgets http://goo.gl/HAuwOct 29 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] #Protests work http://ind.pn/9Nu33COct 29 15:00
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:                 Johann Hari: Protest works. Just look at the proof -                    Johann Hari, Commentators - The Independent .::. Size~: 315.3 KBOct 29 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Come on, brain, do your thing. Why does one of these two (almost) identical calls fail in a way I'd expect the other to if anything?Oct 29 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Child1 & Child2 both lost to world in #Android marketplace - but who needs Apps, when I've got !Emacs ;oPOct 29 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Is your Wifi open? http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2010/102610-backspin.htmlOct 29 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @fcforum: No coincidence that most top 10 projects are free licence. Crowdfunding moves risk away from post production over to preprod...Oct 29 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @jwildeboer: Der SPIEGEL über #LibreOffice, #DocuFoundation, #Oracle - http://is.gd/gs5ql Mama, heute bin ich berühmt geworden! :-)Oct 29 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Nice to see !libreplanet wiki using !Wikipedia's new Vector interface! http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Oct 29 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Register now for Open Services Innovation: An Open Your World Forum webcast with Henry Chesbrough and Gary Hamel http://bit.ly/cGkURBOct 29 15:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay #Yamato still has trouble starting up with a 750W PSU; #WTH?Oct 29 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back home. Got all the essentials and beer and pizza for my night home alone. Now settling down to do some podcast editing....Oct 29 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Well, Here's A Preview Of The Ad-Free Phoronix: This morning on Phoronix you may notice that there are no ads bein... http://bit.ly/c5wgqEOct 29 15:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] monotone 0.99 released http://lwn.net/Articles/412423/rssOct 29 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Banshee becomes the default music player in !Ubuntu 11.04 #Natty Narwhal http://goo.gl/3bpr #monoOct 29 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Went looking for Sunset Sarsaparilla at Rewe, unfortunately they didn't have any.... :(Oct 29 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Debian totally flies (rant on the general state of Linux and my laptop included) http://ht.ly/19HpYpOct 29 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Story: #Facebook #Censorship http://ur1.ca/27opa Concerning words from a Facebook userOct 29 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Copyright Assignments of Document Foundation coming out very well http://j.mp/dcuPWa Curious to find it is opposit of Cannonic...Oct 29 15:48
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schestowitzHi, TheVoiceOct 29 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] EVENIMENT de Software Liber: Miercuri, 3 noiembrie 2010, la ASE București, clădirea Virgil Madgearu, sala 2013 http://is.gd/gscyPOct 29 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana ♺ @glynmoody ♺ @billt Happy Birthday ARPANET :-) First message sent from UCLA to SRI on October 29 1969 http://bit.ly/dwEH0lOct 29 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Open Source for America" is a lobbying group. Let's not fight corruption using corruption.Oct 29 15:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @schestowitz : I wish it was that easy...Oct 29 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @schestowitz Reader’s Story: #Facebook #Censorship http://ur1.ca/27opa Concerning words from a Facebook userOct 29 15:55
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dyfetWell, it is "open source" fo America...not the same as software freedom...they are clearly not lobbying for me...Oct 29 15:55
schestowitzFor IBM, Red Hat...Oct 29 15:55
schestowitzContracts of supportOct 29 15:56
schestowitzNot Drupal and the small developersOct 29 15:56
schestowitzThink GOSCON/O'ReillyOct 29 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The notion of fighting #lobbying with more lobbying reminds me of the Late Zinn's saying about both sides in a war potentially being "evil"Oct 29 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] BRIAN BLESSED + flashmob = https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=136450899738791Oct 29 15:57
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dyfetso I do not feel "we" are using corruption, this "other" (open source) movement might be though ;)Oct 29 15:57
schestowitzhttp://www.prweb.com/releases/prweb2010/10/prweb4714714.htmOct 29 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] News On The Default Applications In Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal http://bit.ly/d2pqCsOct 29 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install And Change Plymouth Themes In Ubuntu Using Zorin Splash Screen Manager http://bit.ly/adAEaZOct 29 16:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When something is unjust, it is no justification for doing unjust things in return.A better approach, in my experience, is to expose/explainOct 29 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz True, 2 wrongs never made 1 rightOct 29 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "A desire for profit is not wrong in itself, but it isn't the sort of urgent overriding cause that could excuse mistreating others." -- @rmsOct 29 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Just a thought; with digital books it should be technically feasible to have music playing. Only copyright insanity preventing it.Oct 29 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Samsung Galaxy Tab launches in India; Available from Nov 10 !android http://ur1.ca/27ovd wow :)Oct 29 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz "A desire for profit is not wrong in itself, but it isn't the sort of urgent overriding cause that could excuse mistreat ...Oct 29 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK.gov plans net censor service - http://bit.ly/cRfRtX "redress"? how vague and unworkable is *that*? (via @PoliceStateUK) #censorshipOct 29 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz just coming back from work, it will have to be done during the day I'm working sat and sun night.Oct 29 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu thanks for those RTs!Oct 29 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Enjoying Fever Ray. Bjork + D'Cuckoo ++Oct 29 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Nice post from Matt Asay. Well done Mr. Asay http://reg.cx/1Lk7Oct 29 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes you mean recording on Monday? Brandon can be a guest as Fedora ambassador upon r14. Got tips re noise reduction in Audacity.Oct 29 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: La Russie veut créer son propre système d'exploitation http://is.gd/gsewU #gnu #linuxOct 29 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz I can record Sunday but it will have to be daytime. I'll be home soon ill see you in ircOct 29 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: Don't mention it, I am doing it with all heart! :)Oct 29 16:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lamejokes: XML is like violence - if it doesn't solve your problems, you are not using enough of it.Oct 29 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes sounds good. Well, so far we got lots of downloads and good feedback. !TechBytesOct 29 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @glynmoody: UK.gov plans net censor service - http://bit.ly/cRfRtX "redress"? how vague and unworkable is *that*? (via @PoliceStateUK)Oct 29 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] RT @schestowitz "A desire for profit is not wrong in itself, but it isn't the sort of urgent overriding cause that could excuse mistreat ...Oct 29 16:13
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gnubiehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/banshee-becomes-ubuntu-11-04-default-music-player/Oct 29 16:14
gnubieso much for the vote they had yesterdayOct 29 16:14
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57152502#notice-57663631 "@schestowitz well, I don't see any problem with that.  all I can say, Finally, someone came with the idea."Oct 29 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito the budget of their adversaries is far bigger. The solution is to reform the system not through lobbying, but by stopping lobbyingOct 29 16:15
MinceR171001 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lamejokes: XML is like violence - if it doesn't solve your problems, you are not using enough of it.Oct 29 16:15
MinceRif you have a problem and decide to use XML to solve it, now you have two problems.Oct 29 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @charlesschulz agreed. In a democracy, people elect officials to regulate law/companies. With lobbying, companies choose+influence officialsOct 29 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fkarlitschek ownCloud 1.1 RC1 is released. http://ownCloud.org Grab it while it´s hot and look for show-stopper. #ownCloud #kdeOct 29 16:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Government not closing the loop on open data - http://bit.ly/9fnYoA important observations (via @PBAge) #opendata #ogovOct 29 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft shifts Silverlight to being a Windows Phone development platform only (ZDNet): http://zd.net/bNu6WbOct 29 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz The solution is to stop pretending companies are people. People have right to contract officials. Companies should not.Oct 29 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Government not closing the loop on open data - (Simon Booth-Lucking): http://bit.ly/9redKQOct 29 16:20
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schestowitzhttp://pookito.status.net/notice/116215 "well, you got a point that the adversaries have far bigger budget. But maybe this might be a start on the right direction, Don't you think?"Oct 29 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 it's the distortion we have when people personify brands, which are mere containments of tyrannically-structured amoral beastsOct 29 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Gobby notes of the #AppSelection session at #UDS #Natty: http://goo.gl/EJ8W via @bognarandras !uOct 29 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito it's destructive to fight fire with fire. You just scorch the whole goddamn placeOct 29 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @schestowitz : that's right. But we still need people to counter lobbyists. Like nuclear submarines to counter other nuclear submarines.Oct 29 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @nijaba: Wednesday I'll be talking about Canonical's Cloud strategy at Infosecurity in the Netherlands http://is.gd/gsfO7Oct 29 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @charlesschulz but then it's an arms race. Again, just increase riskOct 29 16:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Istanbul: City of the Future - http://on.natgeo.com/9XPEYA çok güzel (via @dcarli) #turkey #istanbulOct 29 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @charlesschulz “Did you know that there are more than 34,750 registered lobbyists in Washington, D.C...” CIO.comOct 29 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @schestowitz : oh it is by no means an ideal solution. But it's the gun you sometimes need when everything else has failed.Oct 29 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @schestowitz : yes. And I understand the number in Brussels is either similar or even superior now.Oct 29 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IE6 addiction throws monkey wrench into Windows 7 migration - http://bit.ly/9tHlvV truly, the biter bit #ie6 #win7Oct 29 16:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Unity by default and now Banshee? Why is !Ubuntu painting a #swpats target on it's bottom?Oct 29 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @charlesschulz Do they also count #mobbyists ? FauxPatents says he is not required to register.Oct 29 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Unity by default and now Banshee? Why is !Ubuntu painting a #swpats target on its bottom?Oct 29 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft: Our strategy with Silverlight has shifted - http://zd.net/a3ZBwK gravewards, evidently #silverlight #html5Oct 29 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @schestowitz : it's another debate, but I think the numbers don't consider the registration, rather the jobs descriptions & operating firms.Oct 29 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm Since I will only be including Free music lyrics and hence music, copyright will not get in the way. Technical issues may.Oct 29 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sharing and the Creative Economy - http://bit.ly/9NCyIu "affirms the right for all individuals to share [digital] cultural works" #sharingOct 29 16:37
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gnufreexLol... this "Fact and fiction" blog is anti FOSS space.Oct 29 16:39
gnufreexhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/new-open-source-company-fusesource-hopes-follOct 29 16:39
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schestowitzIt isOct 29 16:39
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schestowitzI wrote about it many times, gnufreex, even yesterdayOct 29 16:39
schestowitzThe author is a hotmail.com addressOct 29 16:40
schestowitzHis pro site has MS endorsementsOct 29 16:40
gnufreexI saw what you wrote. But this is interesting.Oct 29 16:40
gnufreexI saw earlier today one commentOct 29 16:40
gnufreexNot it is deletedOct 29 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody Microsoft: Our strategy with Silverlight has shifted - http://zd.net/a3ZBwK gravewards, evidently #silverlight #html5Oct 29 16:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft: Our strategy with Silverlight has shifted | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 124.78 KBOct 29 16:40
schestowitz"Open Source Fact and Fiction"="I am the foundation of truth, the rest if fiction"Oct 29 16:40
gnufreexI basicaly says truth about that Progress Software companyOct 29 16:40
schestowitzgnufreex: what comment?Oct 29 16:40
gnufreexThey deleted it.Oct 29 16:40
schestowitzs/foundation/fountain/Oct 29 16:41
gnufreexIt says how Progress got sued by MySQL AB for GPL violation.Oct 29 16:41
gnufreexIn 2002Oct 29 16:41
schestowitzI don't link to that IDG blogOct 29 16:41
gnufreexAnd how Progress stole ASL licensed Jboss Drools and made propriatary version.Oct 29 16:41
schestowitzIt has anti-FOSS peopleOct 29 16:41
gnufreexThis year.Oct 29 16:41
gnufreexIt is all truth.Oct 29 16:42
schestowitzBlack Duck, OpenLogic=proprietaryOct 29 16:42
gnufreexI checked.Oct 29 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China's Internet Imperils Corrupt Officials, but Not Regime - http://aol.it/drR2Pz interesting analysis (via @evgenymorozov) #china #netOct 29 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] "Digital Love" de Daft Punk -- sample of George Duke http://is.gd/gsiff #zappaOct 29 16:42
schestowitzJulie=MS bloggerOct 29 16:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China's Internet Imperils Corrupt Officials, but Not Regime .::. Size~: 103.99 KBOct 29 16:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Daft Punk's Digital Love sample of George Duke's I Love You More | WhoSampled .::. Size~: 28.12 KBOct 29 16:42
schestowitzStephen=MSFT employee!!Oct 29 16:42
schestowitzRunning a FOSS blogOct 29 16:42
schestowitzOnly in IDG... :-)Oct 29 16:42
gnufreexThey delete what they don't like.Oct 29 16:43
schestowitzproblem is, not much coverage of FOSS at the moment, so IDG fills the gap with BS that its clients must loveOct 29 16:43
schestowitzDilution/distortion syndromeOct 29 16:43
schestowitzLike Bill Gates bribing journalisms to worship himOct 29 16:43
schestowitz*sm/stOct 29 16:43
gnufreexThat is second time I saw comments deleted.Oct 29 16:44
gnufreexOn networkworld.Oct 29 16:44
schestowitzBetter to ignore them nowOct 29 16:44
schestowitzI no longer protest in the blogOct 29 16:44
schestowitzIt's counter productiveOct 29 16:45
schestowitzGives them hitsOct 29 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] we're about to order the first batch of FooVC plugs running GNU social. If you haven't signed up yet, do it now... http://ur1.ca/1dvw2 !gnuOct 29 16:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Become a Venture Customer! - FooCorp's Internet Website .::. Size~: 2.46 KBOct 29 16:45
schestowitzIt's a fairly new blog... been FOSS-hostile from the get-go... they chose the wrong writersOct 29 16:45
gnufreexAnd they promote wrong companies.Oct 29 16:46
schestowitz"If you need more tips for noise reduction, may I recommend my podcast episode on it? http://ndl.mx/cyRPeY " http://twitter.com/#!/theRamenNoodle/status/29096337350Oct 29 16:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TAP012: How to Remove Noise with Audacity [The Audacity to Podcast] | Noodle.mx .::. Size~: 47.21 KBOct 29 16:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 41.87 KBOct 29 16:47
schestowitzwhich companies?Oct 29 16:48
gnufreexProgress software... for exampleOct 29 16:48
gnufreexThey bought bunch of open source companies and killed them.Oct 29 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Koobface Variant Infects Linux Systems - http://bit.ly/dwO3DF but only if you're stupid enough to accept proffered java applet #linuxOct 29 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] RT @mattl we're about to order the first batch of FooVC plugs running GNU social. If you haven't signed up yet, do it now... http://ur1. ...Oct 29 16:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Koobface Variant Infects Linux Systems - Softpedia .::. Size~: 59.77 KBOct 29 16:48
gnufreexThen they promote SugarCRMOct 29 16:48
gnufreexAnd other open coreOct 29 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] va au mini #debian conf de #paris demain ! qui vient ? !aprilOct 29 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] going to #debian mini debconf in #paris tomorrow! who's coming? !fsfe !gnu !fsf !debianOct 29 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Of course I realize that your !NaNoWriMo effort will be open and unencumbered by !copyright ...Oct 29 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Fixed it! One path stored the key from as a form string, the other as an model int, and then the code checked != against a string in Python.Oct 29 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz My thinking is that in a perfect world unencumbered by !copyright it would be awesome to have digital books with soundtracks.Oct 29 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody PLoS Computational Biology to publish articles on #OSS sw providing "new biological insights" - http://bit.ly/cIBmq5Oct 29 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Mount Everest now 'wired' for Internet, ready for Starbucks & WoW http://ur1.ca/27lfxOct 29 16:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PLoS Computational Biology: A Peer-Reviewed Open-Access Journal .::. Size~: 64.89 KBOct 29 16:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mount Everest now 'wired' for Internet, ready for Starbucks -- Engadget .::. Size~: 60.46 KBOct 29 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Memo to World: Stop !ACTA Now - a New Oh !Canada post: !http://ur1.ca/27pa0 #democracy #cdnpoli #CharlieAngus @MarietjeD66Oct 29 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Memo to World: Stop ACTA Now! «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 33.84 KBOct 29 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @robmyers Emin forger jailed - http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/oct/28/tracey-emin-forger-jailedOct 29 16:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Tracey Emin forger jailed | Art and design | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 72.47 KBOct 29 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open data in public private partnerships: how citizens can become true watchdogs - http://bit.ly/bpdM4I nice case study #bikes #opendataOct 29 16:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Knowledge Foundation Blog  » Blog Archive   » Open data in public private partnerships: how citizens can become true watchdogs .::. Size~: 36.36 KBOct 29 16:58
schestowitz<gnufreex> Then they promote SugarCRMOct 29 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan “Federating the Social Web” — http://fsoss.senecac.on.ca/2010/node/40 #fsw go @walkah!Oct 29 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Humans could form wireless nodes for high speed networks - http://bit.ly/aXEApj could be great for human rights activists #wirelessOct 29 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @pookito well, they're certainly supporting it in an odd way...Oct 29 17:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: fsoss.senecac.on.ca .::. Size~: 7.84 KBOct 29 17:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Humans could form wireless nodes for high speed networks | TG Daily .::. Size~: 49.42 KBOct 29 17:02
schestowitzYeah, they gave the CEO a platform thereOct 29 17:02
gnufreexYeah. And he said "we do comercial open source, I don't know why people hate everything compercial". What people hate is propriatary, not comercial. And they are doing propriatary software not open source. That is word play that RMS warns about.Oct 29 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mohanpram: Mount Everest now 'wired' for Internet, ready for Starbucks & WoW http://ur1.ca/27lfxOct 29 17:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mount Everest now 'wired' for Internet, ready for Starbucks -- Engadget .::. Size~: 60.39 KBOct 29 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: China's Internet Imperils Corrupt Officials, but Not Regime - http://aol.it/drR2Pz #china #netOct 29 17:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China's Internet Imperils Corrupt Officials, but Not Regime .::. Size~: 104.59 KBOct 29 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why The Answer To The Smartphone Patent Thicket Is Not A Patent Pool - http://bit.ly/bDSfDT let's knock that on head *now* #patents #poolsOct 29 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @robmyers Blasphemy Laws a Serious Threat to Human Rights - http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=70&release=1262Oct 29 17:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why The Answer To The Smartphone Patent Thicket Is Not A Patent Pool | Techdirt .::. Size~: 21.26 KBOct 29 17:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Freedom House: New Freedom House Study Shows Blasphemy Laws a Serious Threat to Human Rights .::. Size~: 30.36 KBOct 29 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Să scapi de Internet Explorer 6 e o MARE BELEA chiar și pentru Microsoft http://is.gd/gslft #ie #web #microsoftOct 29 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Getting rid of Internet Explorer 6 is a pain, even for Microsoft http://is.gd/gslft #microsoft #ie #webOct 29 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IE6 addiction throws monkey wrench into Windows 7 migration - Computerworld .::. Size~: 85.76 KBOct 29 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IE6 addiction throws monkey wrench into Windows 7 migration - Computerworld .::. Size~: 85.76 KBOct 29 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @serk01 @robmyers: Austerity isn't affecting top executives, you'll be relieved to hear - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11649789Oct 29 17:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - FTSE 100 executive pay rises 55%, survey says .::. Size~: 48.77 KBOct 29 17:15
schestowitz[12:37] <gnufreex> schestowitz: I am listening the show right now. Great work!Oct 29 17:15
schestowitzThanks!Oct 29 17:15
gnufreexThe song is expecialy great. I fought a troll and... Troll lost!Oct 29 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: In a democracy, people elect officials to regulate law/companies. With lobbying, companies choose+influence officialsOct 29 17:17
gnufreexschestowitz: when will be next episode?Oct 29 17:17
schestowitzHopefully MondayOct 29 17:17
schestowitzThat would be the first one thoughOct 29 17:17
schestowitzThis thing you listened to was freestylingOct 29 17:17
*_Goblin (~sabayonus@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrightsOct 29 17:19
schestowitzHey, _GoblinOct 29 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra RT @bkuhn !FaiFCast Episode 0x01 is finally out! http://ur1.ca/27mg6 Download it now and/or subscribe to the RSS Feed.Oct 29 17:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Episode 0x01: Free of Annoying Buzz - Free as in Freedom  - Free as in Freedom .::. Size~: 5.33 KBOct 29 17:20
schestowitz_Goblin: see the TechBytes group at IDENTICAOct 29 17:21
schestowitzSome updates therOct 29 17:21
schestowitz*thereOct 29 17:21
gnufreexI just now saw... Microosft anounced financial results.Oct 29 17:21
schestowitzI'm trying to get some stuff done to ensure we have enough regular listenersOct 29 17:21
schestowitzgnufreex: spin/PROct 29 17:21
_GoblinHi!Oct 29 17:21
schestowitzCorporate press repeated itOct 29 17:21
schestowitzThey get paid for ads from those companiesOct 29 17:22
schestowitzDon't expect them to analyse the fusion of Microsoft unitsOct 29 17:22
schestowitzThey'd risk the ad dealsOct 29 17:22
schestowitzBetaNews did OKOct 29 17:22
schestowitzJoe WIlcoxOct 29 17:22
schestowitzHis analysis is bloderOct 29 17:22
schestowitzThe MSBBC ran an MSFT ad...Oct 29 17:22
schestowitzCongratulating Microsoft on announcing in a PR that it congratulates itselfOct 29 17:23
gnufreexhahaOct 29 17:23
schestowitzThis is crucial to Microsoft because people buy Microsoft onyl based on the perception it'll always be thereOct 29 17:23
schestowitzUnlike Symbian for exampleOct 29 17:23
gnufreexBut they had 16bn of sales... how they got that... unless they acuounted things they sell to themselves, like IBM does.Oct 29 17:24
schestowitzI wrote in advance, expecting Microsoft to do this. I'll do a post about this later on, I need to catch up with non-Microsoft matters :-)Oct 29 17:24
schestowitzIBM does what? Link?Oct 29 17:24
schestowitzThe Onion Mobbying loves to talk about their mainframe bizOct 29 17:25
gnufreexDon't have link but heard that on multiple places.Oct 29 17:25
schestowitzI heard that about MSFTOct 29 17:25
schestowitzThat transactions are basically money moving money aroundOct 29 17:25
schestowitzI could sell to my girlfriend a $1000 checkOct 29 17:26
schestowitzThen, she'd sell me a check tooOct 29 17:26
schestowitzAnd we both see a rise in businessOct 29 17:26
schestowitzJust a proof of concept exampleOct 29 17:26
schestowitzLike many banks lend money they do not actually have and have no way to back it up, eitherOct 29 17:27
schestowitzMicrosoft's tissue paper monopoly needs to have reserves, i don't know why they take loansOct 29 17:27
gnufreexYeah, that is a way how they can make top line grow. But not the bottom line.Oct 29 17:28
schestowitzJust a quick point:Oct 29 17:29
schestowitzNever in history was one exposed for fraud without the accuser first threatened with lawsuit or claims of paranoiaOct 29 17:30
schestowitzSo whistleblowers recently got new protections from the SEC IIRCOct 29 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @packtpub: Using #CiviCRM has just been announced. Get this or any open source eBook at $9.99 only @Packtpub.com: http://bit.ly/abIpsCOct 29 17:30
schestowitzSo I can call you a crookOct 29 17:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Awards- Just Announced title-Google Web Toolkit 2 Application Development Cookbook | Packt Publishing Technical & IT Book Store .::. Size~: 47.2 KBOct 29 17:30
schestowitzIf I can produce some evidenceOct 29 17:30
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/lightweight/statuses/29030556844Oct 29 17:31
schestowitz"@nzkoz @nzben a lot of fuss is made about MS' big cash reserves... others think it's a ponzi scheme http://is.gd/gpkgh http://is.gd/gpkgi"Oct 29 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Dave Lane: @nzkoz @nzben a lot of fus ... .::. Size~: 9.68 KBOct 29 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Cumulative Debt Almost Doubles to About $80 Billion in Just a Few Years (Updated) | Techrights .::. Size~: 110.06 KBOct 29 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Microsoft Debt Issuance Makes Zero Economic Sense  - Great Speculations - Buys, holds, and hopes - Forbes .::. Size~: 143.24 KBOct 29 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Engraçado que o Sapo TEK só reporte supostos sucessos da microsoft http://ur1.ca/27pl5 e não reporte os fracassos!!! http://ur1.ca/27g50Oct 29 17:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TeK > Notícias > Negócios > Lucros da Microsoft aumentam 51% no trimestre .::. Size~: 34.21 KBOct 29 17:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Critérios Editoriais: Bolsa de Valores de Londres muda para GNU/Linux e bate recordes de performance « O Vigia .::. Size~: 86.13 KBOct 29 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Ebook restrictions leave libraries facing virtual lockout - http://bit.ly/cpL0hD publishers haven't got a clue (via @copycense) #copyrightOct 29 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @michaelmcandrew: Anyone want to point me toward some good #CiviCRM #Salesforce comparisions?Oct 29 17:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Ebook restrictions leave libraries facing virtual lockout | Books | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 81.43 KBOct 29 17:33
schestowitz_Goblin: I think you want to upload the files tooOct 29 17:35
schestowitzIt's OpenBytes' show as much as Techrights'Oct 29 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be funnier if the dog went for the sausage but still http://bbc.in/b1NMXw lol and ouchOct 29 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz Have you used Keepass / KeepassX? Is that something suitable for a senior's computer?Oct 29 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Troll jailed !lo !outlawstory http://bbc.in/aOwWArOct 29 17:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Cotswold flasher bitten by victim's dog .::. Size~: 48.85 KBOct 29 17:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Jade Goody website 'troll' from Manchester jailed  .::. Size~: 50.21 KBOct 29 17:35
schestowitzMaybe WordPress allows uploading the MP3?Oct 29 17:35
schestowitz_Goblin: try seeing how wp.com treats mp3 upload by putting the show up thereOct 29 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @robbychen #Canonical has been pulling away from the #GNOME project and ready to become a profitable company http://bit.ly/aJGpud !Ub ...Oct 29 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz ... I'm trying to discourage password reuse. Hoping application can integrate with Firefox / Chrome enough so person will useOct 29 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Patches So Nouveau Users Can Try Out Wayland: Chia-I Wu, the open-source developer who previously worked to bring ... http://bit.ly/aOGS4vOct 29 17:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME Developers Attack Canonical's Ubuntu Decision | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 68.33 KBOct 29 17:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Patches So Nouveau Users Can Try Out Wayland .::. Size~: 17.32 KBOct 29 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johndrinkwater #Sintel joins her #blender siblings, Elephants Dream & Big Buck Bunny #geekshelf http://ur1.ca/27nf0 #blenderOct 29 17:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/johndrinkwater-20101029T124839-lhxuegw.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.17 KBOct 29 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 I heard of it, but never used itOct 29 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Twenty-First Century Stoic -- Insult Pacifism - http://bit.ly/9zD2Q3 perfect for microblogs #stoicism #pacifismOct 29 17:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twenty-First Century Stoic -- Insult Pacifism - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 34.95 KBOct 29 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Us web developers are fu**** IE6 Addiction Inhibits Windows 7 Migrations http://ur1.ca/27pqe (via @slashdot)Oct 29 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] back home, sweet homeOct 29 17:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | IE6 Addiction Inhibits Windows 7 Migrations .::. Size~: 145.78 KBOct 29 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz You'll have to give me more to go on to find on that one... I couldn't find anything in either wikipedia nor google.Oct 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Trainings in San Francisco, Nov 18th: User and Admin: http://bit.ly/c8tMSo Developer and Implementor: http://bit.ly/atJF5u #drupalOct 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Samsung GT-P1010 WiFi-only Galaxy Tab clears FCC http://t.co/m6OodHROct 29 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: San Francisco User and Administrator Training - Nov 2010 | CiviCRM Community Site .::. Size~: 18.02 KBOct 29 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: San Francisco Developer and Implementer Training - Nov 2010 | CiviCRM Community Site .::. Size~: 18.52 KBOct 29 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung GT-P1010 WiFi-only Galaxy Tab clears FCC - SlashGear .::. Size~: 45.25 KBOct 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Code Sprint in San Francisco: Nov 19th (and maybe 20th, 21st): http://bit.ly/bkdKha Lets get Civi upgrade to D7 and J1.6 #drupalOct 29 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @copycense Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby: print = $7.45; #Kindle ed. = $10.99 http://amzn.to/9cC4Fz >>waiting for the ebooks backlash...Oct 29 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CiviCRM Code and Test Sprint San Francisco - Nov 2010 | CiviCRM Community Site .::. Size~: 16.72 KBOct 29 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: The Great Gatsby (9780743273565): F. Scott Fitzgerald: Books .::. Size~: 392.59 KBOct 29 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wellcome Collection Wants Your Dust - http://bit.ly/9RcnFZ fab headline #wellcome #dustOct 29 17:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wellcome Collection Wants Your Dust - Londonist .::. Size~: 33.81 KBOct 29 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I'm going to kill anyone who suggests not bothering putting the clocks backOct 29 18:00
*ThistleWeb (~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #techrightsOct 29 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Censorship of inaccurate stuff on the Web, this government are idioticOct 29 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 they'd be willing to censor their own parties and candidates sites? wow, that's impressiveOct 29 18:03
schestowitzThistleWeb: published 1 minute ago http://techrights.org/2010/10/29/meego-1-1/Oct 29 18:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 29/10/2010: Ubuntu Benchmarked, MeeGo 1.1 | Techrights .::. Size~: 134.1 KBOct 29 18:04
schestowitzScroll downOct 29 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 29/10/2010: !Ubuntu Benchmarked, #MeeGo 1.1 http://techrights.org/2010/10/29/meego-1-1/Oct 29 18:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 29/10/2010: Ubuntu Benchmarked, MeeGo 1.1 | Techrights .::. Size~: 134.1 KBOct 29 18:05
ThistleWebcoolOct 29 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @thistleweb there's the rub, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/29/intenet_mediation_vaizey/ incidentallyOct 29 18:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK.gov plans net censor service • The Register .::. Size~: 24.07 KBOct 29 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Weekend Project time! Analyze your network with Wireshark. Brought to us again by @n8willis: http://bit.ly/d7TEgE #linuxOct 29 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 like anything, the idea may be OK(ish) but you just KNOW they'll use it as a political weapon and go on a mission to abuse itOct 29 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] +1 RT @MarietjeD66: Nice, convinced colleagues to erase fighting "piracy" from Euro Parl's joint motion on EU-US economic councilOct 29 18:10
_Goblinschestowitz: sorry I was afk.....dinner......wp didnt like ogg....but I can give the mp3 a try...Oct 29 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII A consultation on IPR enforcement in third countries http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?form=IPRsurvey2010Oct 29 18:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU IPR survey 2010 on IPR protection and enforcement in third countries .::. Size~: 2.52 KBOct 29 18:12
schestowitz_Goblin: gotta go now for a while... bblOct 29 18:13
_Goblinschestowitz: yep np...Oct 29 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Over 75 Law Profs Call for Halt of #ACTA http://www.wcl.american.edu/pijip/go/blog-post/academic-sign-on-letter-to-obama-on-actaOct 29 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @thistleweb I'm not sure I can think of any good reasons for it, apart from bullying or somethingOct 29 18:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PIJIP:  - American University Washington College of Law .::. Size~: 111.25 KBOct 29 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Everything You Need to Know About Tomorrow's Stewart and Colbert Rally http://gawker.com/5676598/Oct 29 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir "There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin."Oct 29 18:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Everything You Need to Know About Tomorrow's Stewart and Colbert Rally .::. Size~: 97.05 KBOct 29 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 if it could (in theory) be used in a fair way, then maybe, but there's not a snowballs chance in hell it'd ever be used like thatOct 29 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] !fsf Free Software Supporter for Oct will be sent out shortly, subscribe to receive it at http://www.fsf.org/fss !gnu !lpOct 29 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz Do people really adhere to that rule? I'm often sceptical when I hear it. Also: moneyOct 29 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Every 6 months, some Tory prat suggests moving Britain to UT+1/2; I am utterly fed up of this shitOct 29 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 and those who propose it never had "fairness" in mind when they suggested itOct 29 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Christ, I need to calm downOct 29 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @robmyers Indeed. If the "public" is paying for it, give them the rights. BY-SA good enough and might be even better.Oct 29 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security advisories http://lwn.net/Articles/412427/rssOct 29 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @bognarandras Usability Results for Unity: http://is.gd/gsr5tOct 29 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @robmyers hopefully soon crowdfunders will clue into demanding Free licenses.Oct 29 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] RT @cherylmckinnon: This topic is my personal 'what gives me screaming nightmares' fear: http://bit.ly/cslMEK #opensource #ecm #openstandardOct 29 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Since when was the weather forecast the English forecast?Oct 29 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC Talks With Elspeth Revere of MacArthur Fndn (@macfound). Find out why they've invested $3 mil in CC over past 8 yrs http://bit.ly/d44tnsOct 29 18:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Whoops, I seem to have failedOct 29 18:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME Project Receives $15,000 for Accessibility Work http://lwn.net/Articles/412474/rssOct 29 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♻ @jerezim "Today, decentralization of the Net is under attack everywhere" Alan Toner #fcforum #netneutrality #ACTA #gglOct 29 18:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME Project Receives $15,000 for Accessibility Work [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.02 KBOct 29 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] OMG: Community maven @akgraner & family just lost their house in a fire! They're all safe, but could use our help: http://2tu.us/2s3lOct 29 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] The clocks would go back and forward still if we adopted CET, so they're wrongOct 29 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] BBC Scotland has only just noticed that CT Scanners existOct 29 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] More coverage this time: Help community leader @akgraner and family, who lost their house in a fire: http://2tu.us/2s3l !fedora !linux !fossOct 29 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] New #stable #linux #kernel released: 2.6.27.55 http://bit.ly/b2GBO3 2.6.32.25 http://bit.ly/bv53pD 2.6.35.8 http://bit.ly/9dK6tpOct 29 18:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmm.... Pizza, beer, home alone... Nice. :)Oct 29 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] If Scottish Labour actually had any policies, that might helpOct 29 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] From the 2.6.35.8 announcement "There will only be one more .35 kernel released after this one [..] using .36 instead." http://bit.ly/9dK6tpOct 29 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Save the world: Answer the #FEMA challenge http://bit.ly/c7xCwr #TED #TEDMEDOct 29 19:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @20lb: Been working on the new website today. Expect to launch it at the weekend along with other exciting developments :)Oct 29 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] So, has anyone else noticed how much nicer the public timeline is on !identica? http://ur1.ca/27qfrOct 29 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @alepando Rusia quiere desarrollar su propio sistema operativo basándose en Linux para evitar la dependencia de Microsoft http://bit. ...Oct 29 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] TRIPS Council Discusses Efficacy Of #ACTA, Public Health Amendment - http://bit.ly/aioRig increasing pushback (via @copycense @juditrius)Oct 29 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel updates http://lwn.net/Articles/412476/rssOct 29 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] I joined the gthumb mailing list http://bit.ly/alPyOM Since it's my No. 1 app on just about any platform, how could I not?Oct 29 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Apt pinning in Debian http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html this is something I need to study up onOct 29 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stallmania, la comédie musicale participative de Framasoft - http://bit.ly/cXcss1 love that poster #stallman #rms #musicalOct 29 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] We met @wikiHow's challenge in just 3 days! Thanks to all who donated. Still need your help to reach our $550k goal! http://bit.ly/d84xDSOct 29 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Opening another beer (saving the bottle cap of course) and playing some #NewVegas. I need a break from editing....Oct 29 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Head-stomping Rand Paul volunteer demands an apology from lady whose head he stomped. - http://bit.ly/9QeWxw well, he would, wouldn't he?Oct 29 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @zotz Indeed. And if they fundee regards free licencing as a cost/risk then that can be factored into the asking price.Oct 29 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] way to blame the font designers with @font-face rendering problems. issue's the patents involved in hinting fonts. http://ur1.ca/27ql8Oct 29 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] W3C Technical Plenary: To HTML5 and beyond! - http://bit.ly/aqR7AY motoring #html5 #w3cOct 29 19:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] I love the way identi.ca lets you subscribe to groups through which you can find interesting people to follow (I'm still an identi.ca noob)Oct 29 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Can someone explain the difference between !tag and #tag in identi.ca?Oct 29 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Technical Plenary: To HTML5 and beyond! http://ow.ly/19HFSJOct 29 19:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The future of Microsoft Windows Azure: platform as a service (Ars): http://bit.ly/9RrohuOct 29 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why is Microsoft suddenly so hot for HTML5? | (Betanews) http://bit.ly/cB3XDsOct 29 19:43
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gnufreexMaybe because Silverblights sucks?Oct 29 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft lures developers with Windows Azure (Network Worldhttp://bit.ly/alpfoTOct 29 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft lures developers with Windows Azure (Network World): http://bit.ly/alpfoTOct 29 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] An open letter to Peter Jackson re #hobbit becoming as bad as #starwars prequels: http://ur1.ca/27qswOct 29 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] ASCII crimps program development, coder says - (Computerworld) http://bit.ly/b6qtshOct 29 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: Mozilla : un plugin pour démocratiser le format Theora : http://ur1.ca/27qp7Oct 29 19:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: W3C Technical Plenary: To HTML5 and beyond! - http://bit.ly/aqR7AY motoring #html5 #w3cOct 29 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] litl at the Boston Summit http://goo.gl/zt3j (the litl webbook is a simple, maintenance-free computer that bends over backward for you)Oct 29 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @johnkoetsier: 89,000 Microsoft employees will get a Windows Phone 7 handset http://bit.ly/b8iGgxOct 29 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxfund: London Stock Exchange smashes world record trade speed with !Linux http://ej.uz/z6c This is a historic win for #OpenSource!Oct 29 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: Women & Mozilla Survey Results http://bit.ly/9LqN6aOct 29 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @all1nfo: ANDROID #news: Sony Ericsson: Android 2.1 will Hitting X10 on Sunday http://bit.ly/a4r3Ek !android #androidandmeOct 29 19:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @johnsu01: !fsf Free Software Supporter for Oct will be sent out shortly, subscribe to receive it at http://www.fsf.org/fss !gnu !lpOct 29 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ahmed Kamal: !UbuntuCloud Community needs You http://goo.gl/X2VDOct 29 20:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu Software Center ratings and reviews to come by #Christmas http://goo.gl/VM8dOct 29 20:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Keep your ears warm this winter with the Penguinista Beanie! Today's featured Linux.com Store item: http://bit.ly/9hzfhpOct 29 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Anyone experiencing problems with Uniconvertor on Linux ?Oct 29 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Alguém com problemas com o Uniconvertor no Linux ?Oct 29 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Good progress with #CiviCRM on #Drupal 7. Issue: http://bit.ly/b8PB26 Code: http://bit.ly/9aHgGV Code contributions are appreciatedOct 29 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open source needs an attack of the heart - http://bit.ly/9Jxltt written from the heart for reasons that become apparent #healthcare #ossOct 29 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @stav: On this date in 1969, UCLA student programmer Charley Kline transmitted the first ever message on #ARPANET. The message? loOct 29 20:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [#CRM-5282] Upgrade for Drupal 7 - CiviCRM Issue Tracker  .::. Size~: 24.79 KBOct 29 20:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] UDS-N: An #Arm #Netbook running !Ubuntu http://goo.gl/OlHPOct 29 20:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Biodiversity talks: Ministers in Nagoya adopt new strategy - http://bit.ly/9NkOHN (moderately) fine words: now implement #biodiversityOct 29 20:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Uh nice, #p7zip is multithreaded… NICE! :DOct 29 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] I missed #pino enough that I deleted my twitter accounts so the oauth nonsense wouldn't keep it from working with identi.caOct 29 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Intel Newsroom: Reports of #Netbook’s Death Greatly Exaggerated, Experts Say http://goo.gl/x3XnOct 29 20:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] I just bought a Thinkpad R32 sans hard drive on eBay for $36. First eBay purchase in more than a yearOct 29 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] “10/27/10 PHD comic: 'Procrascorrelation'”: http://bit.ly/aoA4qVOct 29 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] GCC 2010 Summit Presentations Now Online: For those interested in compilers, particularly GCC, or are interested i... http://bit.ly/9SvdxQOct 29 20:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm see http://www.cluecan.ca/node/307Oct 29 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://thirdpipe.com/?p=7916 "…Microsoft ceased operations tomorrow?...Enron was a cash maven too, till nearly the very end."Oct 29 20:45
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MinceRi would celebrate.Oct 29 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Introducing the Oracle Cloud API (William Vambenepe, July 2010): http://bit.ly/dlaRDCOct 29 20:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Toolmaking technique 55,000 years older than we thought http://goo.gl/fkbcOct 29 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle Cloud Resource Model API (PDF): http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/cloud/oracle-cloud-resource-model-api-154279.pdfOct 29 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @robmyers I also wonder about non-profits set up to fund Free and able to give tax advantages to donors.Oct 29 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @twistedlogix FSF's policy is different, because they r promising to not proprietorise it. canonicals 'open core' dont have s...Oct 29 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @gkjohn Yes. I remember. It was bradly kuhn's article.Oct 29 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "There are food patents already. You eat that food, and they might sue you and get injunction against your kidneys." -- @gnufreexOct 29 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rage accomplishes nothing. But sometimes, truth leads to rage, which in turn accomplishes change.Oct 29 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Eye for an eye – RIAA & Limewire no score draw? & what LOIC users should consider. http://tinyurl.com/38w753b !tpb !limewire !p2pOct 29 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz "There are food patents already. You eat that food, and they might sue you and get injunction against your kidneys." -- ...Oct 29 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Do something fun for yourself. Ask fellow people what patents are about and for? Also, ask them where money really comes from. #fun #triviaOct 29 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @zotz We need creative economic organization solutions in society *generally*. If we can try them out in art projects,that's low risk & goodOct 29 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @toros Og Maciel: Are You Planning a !GNOME 3.0 Launch Party? http://goo.gl/5eSQOct 29 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Besides, I think Slackware sounds better than 'Microsoft,' don't you?" (By Patrick Volkerding) !q #Slackware !gnu !linuxOct 29 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Enterprise Linux this week. #opendata #russia #cloudcomputing #sustainability all get mentions: http://bit.ly/b76HXh #linuxOct 29 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The next #UDS will be in #Budapest (May 9-13, 2011) !ubuntu #locoteams !ubuntuhuOct 29 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @fcforum: No coincidence that most top 10 projects are free licence. Crowdfunding moves risk away from post production over to preprod...Oct 29 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Wayland Becomes A FreeDesktop.org Project: Just earlier today we reported that Wayland is becoming compatible with... http://bit.ly/9s2gwgOct 29 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Wine 1.3.6 Supports GStreamer Filters, Etc: Wine 1.3.5 came two weeks ago with better Shader Model 4.0 support for... http://bit.ly/9ND94eOct 29 21:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Making some mint tea from the last fresh mint of the year...Oct 29 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We are hoping to produce the first episode of !TechBytes on Monday depending and work schedule of Tim and myself. Thanks for the feedback.Oct 29 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @fabsh: awesome, what do you sweeten (if you do that is) it mint tea with? I usually use honey.Oct 29 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Examples to explain people what digital freedom addresses: 'activation' (won't run), DRM (won't play), lockin (won't pay), privacy+securityOct 29 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Anyone can build a fast processor. The trick is to build a fast system." -Seymour Cray !q #bloat #hpcOct 29 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz Ive been playing around with Audacity tonight...very powerful package, learnt some tricks that will improve quality..Oct 29 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mohanpram Sugar. I only use honey when I'm sick for that....Oct 29 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes Our kind reader/commenter @agentsmith says Audacity has a noise cancellation filter. I got #Audacity installed myself.Oct 29 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz I think the other lesson to draw from the test was no stereo...Oct 29 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes I can vary separation of stereo/mono from 0% to 100%. Just purely mono then?Oct 29 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz yeah, I think so. It was a comment in IRC...I was coming out one channel and you the other...one thing I found though...Oct 29 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gotunandan Samsung Galaxy Tab is taxed by Microsoft. #swpats #samsungOct 29 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz I was very pleased with my new mic and the sound quality...worth the 50ish quid I paid for it.Oct 29 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Follow Friday @bix @pietercolpaert @dyfet @stumbles #ffOct 29 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes @schestowitz Tab Effects -> Noise Removal. And you should specify the threshold, Audacity does the rest. Nice to delete clicksOct 29 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Awards 2010 http://ur1.ca/27rs1 #linux #fedora #ubuntu #debianOct 29 21:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith thanks, appreciated // cc @openbytesOct 29 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Made some good progress on the !fsf #CiviCRM migration. A lot more to do, but we're getting there. Ran into need for http://ur1.ca/27rto.Oct 29 21:48
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schestowitz_Goblin: "You can use Audacity to cancel most of the noise. I used to do it, to improve quality with recorded classes from my teachers. But note, Audacity is a saint but it's not God. One can improve, but can't make miracles. ;-)" -SmithOct 29 21:49
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schestowitztessier about?Oct 29 21:50
_Goblinschestowitz: I don't think we had much of an issue with noise.....I think a few mic issues thats allOct 29 21:50
schestowitzI need not to move the micOct 29 21:50
schestowitzIt's too sensitiveOct 29 21:50
schestowitzDidn't testOct 29 21:51
_Goblinschestowitz: there were a few pops but I think that was more to do with moving the mic whilst recording (or in my case...scratching my head and knocking the headset)Oct 29 21:51
schestowitzPurely mono?Oct 29 21:51
schestowitzOr little stereo (50/50)Oct 29 21:51
schestowitz<gnufreex> schestowitz: I am listening the show right now. Great work!Oct 29 21:53
schestowitz<cubezzz> use a torrent maybe?Oct 29 21:53
schestowitzStill need to get up/sort out the resume server thingOct 29 21:53
schestowitz<oiaohm> Just started trying to get file with wget..  schestowitz Yep it still fails.  2010-10-29 21:33:30 (56.9 KB/s) - Read error at byte 35195985/40134865 (Connection reset by peer). Retrying.  << Might be useful for tessierOct 29 21:53
schestowitz<oiaohm> Then retry fails ie resume.Oct 29 21:53
_Goblinschestowitz: Im going to say purely mono....but Im happy to play it however you think.Oct 29 21:55
schestowitzOKOct 29 21:55
schestowitzWill change itOct 29 21:55
schestowitzOK, doneOct 29 21:55
schestowitzit'll shrink the file tooOct 29 21:55
schestowitzmono strictOct 29 21:55
schestowitzbtwOct 29 21:55
_GoblinI take it you are liking Audacity? Great package isn't it?Oct 29 21:55
schestowitzhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/banshee-becomes-ubuntu-11-04-default-music-player/Oct 29 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banshee becomes Ubuntu 11.04 default music player .::. Size~: 77.4 KBOct 29 21:56
schestowitzcomments talk about MonoOct 29 21:56
schestowitz_Goblin: I only used 2 things beforeOct 29 21:56
schestowitzOne in WIndows 3.1 IIRCOct 29 21:56
schestowitzWhen i was about 12Oct 29 21:56
schestowitzAnd CoolEdit 2000 around 1998 maybeOct 29 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes @schestowitz Click removal, I guess. Yes, click removal. The rest stays the same. My version is localized, so words changeOct 29 21:57
schestowitz_logtThis http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Editors-Recorders/Cool-Edit-Pro.shtmlOct 29 21:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Download Cool Edit Pro 2.1 Free Trial - The Best Audio Editing Software now known as Adobe Audition - Softpedia .::. Size~: 49.19 KBOct 29 21:57
schestowitzIt's Adobe now!?Oct 29 21:58
_GoblinRE: Banshee - I was rather hopeful that Canonical were making the decision to slowly move away from Mono....Oct 29 21:58
schestowitzI'm not sure it's finalOct 29 21:59
schestowitz"- Banshee might be included by default in Ubuntu 11.04 (and thus replace Rhythmbox) if it can be slimmed down to fit on the CD"Oct 29 21:59
schestowitzhttp://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/news-on-default-applications-in-ubuntu.htmlOct 29 21:59
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schestowitzContradictory reportsOct 29 21:59
_Goblinhaving said that, with arguably the most popular distro, I suppose they are making the business decisions which they believe will take the distro forward.Oct 29 21:59
schestowitzneed to look at Ubuntu Web site..............Oct 29 21:59
_GoblinI see Fedora is doing well on the distro watch charts.Oct 29 22:00
_GoblinI get the feeling the latest release is going to be rather special.Oct 29 22:00
MinceRgnOct 29 22:01
_Goblingn mateOct 29 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith Nice post from Matt Asay. Well done Mr. Asay http://reg.cx/1Lk7 // indeed, good analysis from @mjasayOct 29 22:03
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schestowitzI downloaded Fedora this weekOct 29 22:04
schestowitz_Goblin: yes, that's why they redo the siteOct 29 22:04
schestowitzWith Ubuntu backlash over GNOME I think they might even earn some converts disgruntled about a few Canonical PR blundersOct 29 22:04
_GoblinI didn't want to say it had an Ubuntu theme....but what I mean is they have definately given Fedora a more community, friendly and accessable lookOct 29 22:05
schestowitzI think having more balance b/w distros would be goodOct 29 22:05
schestowitzIBM supported SuSE for this reasonOct 29 22:05
schestowitzNot giving RHAT (not RHT) too much power in servers..Oct 29 22:05
_GoblinI don't think I'll be leaving Sabayon for quite some time....I can't see how its any more complex (for any user) than Ubuntu, Fedora or anything else.Oct 29 22:06
schestowitz_Goblin: we should cover Fedora this weekendOct 29 22:06
_GoblinyepOct 29 22:06
schestowitzThey have loads of material in identica...Oct 29 22:06
schestowitzI realised today...Oct 29 22:06
schestowitzBUT.......Oct 29 22:06
schestowitzSurely they have many more Linux-related staffOct 29 22:06
schestowitzThan Canonical and NovellOct 29 22:06
schestowitzSo maybe it's not a fair comparisonOct 29 22:06
schestowitzBrandon did some recordings on Mono beforeOct 29 22:07
_GoblinI would like some FOSS advocacy...maybe mentioning a few new package releases.....et al.....Oct 29 22:07
schestowitzAnd he's eager to go on the showOct 29 22:07
_GoblinIve also got the Puppy Arcade dev on board...Oct 29 22:07
schestowitzIt's him who suggested creating a show, which had me think about it againOct 29 22:07
schestowitz_Goblin: I think we possible get about 1000 downloadsOct 29 22:07
schestowitzNot bad for first show that's not a show but just a pilot with no subscribersOct 29 22:08
schestowitzBut you made no posts about itOct 29 22:08
schestowitzStatic page onluOct 29 22:08
schestowitz*yOct 29 22:08
_GoblinYeah, I had a early start today....Oct 29 22:09
_Goblinand not much time....Oct 29 22:09
_GoblinI saw that show as just a test...Oct 29 22:09
_Goblinand I like to prepare a little more....Oct 29 22:09
schestowitzStill worth mentioning in openbytes?Oct 29 22:09
schestowitzI ought to do posts in general todayOct 29 22:10
schestowitzDid almost 20 yestrday (!!)Oct 29 22:10
schestowitzVery few todayOct 29 22:10
_Goblinschestowitz: I could do, but I have mentioned it on my latest article.Oct 29 22:11
_Goblinand I was talking about it on Identi.caOct 29 22:11
_Goblinoh and BTW mp3 can't be hosted on wordpress either....Oct 29 22:11
_Goblinunless you pay....Oct 29 22:11
schestowitzAh OKOct 29 22:11
schestowitz_Goblin: yeah, I figured that...Oct 29 22:12
schestowitzAh OK  << abut identicaOct 29 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody: UK.gov plans net censor service - http://bit.ly/cRfRtX "redress"? how vague and unworkable is *that*? (via @PoliceStateUK)Oct 29 22:12
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schestowitz_Goblin: yeah, I figured that... << about mp3Oct 29 22:12
_GoblinIm quite happy to, but my next job is just look for some hosting to throw the next show to.Oct 29 22:12
schestowitzWe need RESUME support on serverOct 29 22:12
schestowitzI think we can see if tessier can enable it, otherwise look for other tricksOct 29 22:13
schestowitzBut we have no limits like bandwidth on this serverOct 29 22:13
_GoblinI suppose there is always BittorrentOct 29 22:13
_Goblinand usenetOct 29 22:13
schestowitzcubezzz suggested torrenting itOct 29 22:13
schestowitzAs an option at leastOct 29 22:14
schestowitzBut that's what you do if you have lots of gigs to deliverOct 29 22:14
_GoblinI'll have a look for hosting options......I have no probs paying....Oct 29 22:14
schestowitzOurs is just a few, with cachingOct 29 22:14
schestowitz_Goblin: no need thoughOct 29 22:14
schestowitzThe server has high capacityOct 29 22:14
schestowitzFor nowOct 29 22:14
schestowitzWe resolved that with cacheOct 29 22:15
schestowitzBut now I can't check statsOct 29 22:15
schestowitzSince last yearOct 29 22:15
schestowitzSo IOW I don't exactly know what goes on and what's popularOct 29 22:15
schestowitzHowever, service via HTTP is fast and more persistentOct 29 22:15
schestowitzWas chaotic at times last yearOct 29 22:16
_Goblinjust so you know....saturday I'll be around until about 2pmOct 29 22:16
_Goblinsame for sundayOct 29 22:16
_Goblinthis is the weekend where I will be working sunday.Oct 29 22:17
_Goblinand then Im working straight through until next saturday....with sunday monday off....Oct 29 22:18
schestowitzI don't work this weekendOct 29 22:18
schestowitzSo I'll be around with short internals here and thereOct 29 22:19
schestowitzI'm sorting out to work from home via SSHOct 29 22:19
schestowitzWithout it being frowned uponOct 29 22:19
_Goblin:)Oct 29 22:19
schestowitzI have it all sorted technicallyOct 29 22:19
schestowitz"Look ma! No binary-only OS"Oct 29 22:20
_GoblinI recommend Putty.....Oct 29 22:20
_Goblina cracking Telnet/SSH clientOct 29 22:20
tessierWhat is resume support?Oct 29 22:20
schestowitz_Goblin: putty is for windersOct 29 22:20
schestowitztessier: something that picks up connections when they dropOct 29 22:20
_Goblinits in the Sabayon Repo's...thats good enough for me! ;)Oct 29 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.35.8-libre2, 2.6.32.25-libre1 and 2.6.27.55-libre4 now available at http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/Oct 29 22:20
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schestowitzLike if someone has a download breakOct 29 22:20
tessierschestowitz: what kind of connections?Oct 29 22:20
schestowitzI didn't know what it wasOct 29 22:20
tessieroh...hmmOct 29 22:20
tessierCan browsers do that?Oct 29 22:20
schestowitzoiaohm did some testsOct 29 22:20
tessierIs someone transferring files?Oct 29 22:21
schestowitz<oiaohm> Just started trying to get file with wget..  schestowitz Yep it still fails.  2010-10-29 21:33:30 (56.9 KB/s) - Read error at byte 35195985/40134865 (Connection reset by peer). Retrying.  << Might be useful for tessierOct 29 22:21
schestowitz<oiaohm> Then retry fails ie resume.Oct 29 22:21
_GoblinIm sure chromium does that....Oct 29 22:21
_Goblincould be wrongOct 29 22:21
schestowitz[12:19] <oiaohm> It might be vanish cache messing up resume as well.Oct 29 22:21
tessierAh...that might be a proxy limitation.Oct 29 22:21
tessierYepOct 29 22:21
schestowitz[12:18] <oiaohm> Simple fact that my download when broken have failed to resume.Oct 29 22:21
schestowitz[12:18] <oiaohm> I did not look for tags of resume.Oct 29 22:21
schestowitz[12:17] <oiaohm> I thought you were hosting it not on tessiers system.  I never though tessier would miss setting resume for a item like this.Oct 29 22:21
schestowitz[12:16] <oiaohm> Ie part download resumed is lot cheeper on server than person being forced to download it again.Oct 29 22:21
schestowitz[12:14] <oiaohm> I know other sites that host pod casts have allowed resume.Oct 29 22:21
schestowitz[12:05] <oiaohm> schestowitz: about the techbytes ogv find a better storage location with resume if future one are going to be as long.  I have had bad luck getting it.Oct 29 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Enterprises: We'll run Windows XP even after retirement (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/dts3HpOct 29 22:22
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tessierYou still have a public IP of 216.105.40.114. Have him put that in his hosts file for techrights.org and try again. That will go direct bypassing the proxy.Oct 29 22:22
tessierEventually we'll move it behind the firewall and that public IP will go away but it hasn't been convenient yet to do so. And the public IP works out convenient now for this test.Oct 29 22:22
schestowitzI didn't even know it was an issue for downloads until he said something along these linesOct 29 22:22
schestowitztessier: server load is amazingly goodOct 29 22:23
schestowitzThanks for all you've set upOct 29 22:23
tessierMy pleasureOct 29 22:23
_GoblinRoy...what about using Mediafire for hosting?Oct 29 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] And, that's a wrap. @GerryCanonical on #UDS Day 5: http://bit.ly/aEpbs1 #linux #ubuntuOct 29 22:23
schestowitz_Goblin: I'm not sure there's a need.Oct 29 22:24
schestowitz_Goblin: and neither of us controls MediafireOct 29 22:24
schestowitzIt could close show overnightOct 29 22:24
schestowitz*shoip tooOct 29 22:24
tessierIf there is anything here that needs to be adjusted to make files download properly we will surely do it.Oct 29 22:24
schestowitzFuture files will be smaller (mono, not stereo)Oct 29 22:25
schestowitzMaybe under 15 MBOct 29 22:25
schestowitztessier: we ought to have you as co-host :-)Oct 29 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz RT @agentsmith Nice post from Matt Asay. Well done Mr. Asay http://reg.cx/1Lk7 // indeed, good analysis from @mjasayOct 29 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] [I had to post early today so RT for the late shift] My views on Symbian, Oracle and other links: http://wp.me/pH8ns-sKOct 29 22:25
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: ☞ Right and Wrong « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 46.9 KBOct 29 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: McDonald's Tells Employees to Vote Republican http://gawker.com/5676830/Oct 29 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Microsoft drops Silverlight, commits to HTML 5: http://zd.net/dctPsgOct 29 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: McDonald's Tells Employees to Vote Republican .::. Size~: 81.53 KBOct 29 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft: Our strategy with Silverlight has shifted | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 145.42 KBOct 29 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @rob_t_firefly: HowTo: Unlock the airplane lavatory door (from the outside) http://t.co/96cWuz0 via @thehipmunkOct 29 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @webmink Microsoft drops Silverlight, commits to HTML 5: http://zd.net/dctPsgOct 29 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Republicans Will Masturbate Endlessly on Tuesday Night http://gawker.com/5676794/Oct 29 22:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HowTo: Unlock the airplane lavatory door (from the outside) - @theHipmunk blog .::. Size~: 34.63 KBOct 29 22:28
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Republicans Will Masturbate Endlessly on Tuesday Night .::. Size~: 80.92 KBOct 29 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: RT @agentsmith Nice post from Matt Asay. Well done Mr. Asay http://reg.cx/1Lk7 // indeed, good analysis from @mjasayOct 29 22:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft holds Androids hostage in open source wars • The Register .::. Size~: 28.61 KBOct 29 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://ur1.ca/27s6z - Misinformation wants to be free - Mimi and Eunice (awesome web-comic on free culture) publish their first book!Oct 29 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mjasay yes, this too: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9193901/IE6_addiction_throws_monkey_wrench_into_Windows_7_migrationOct 29 22:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Misinformation Wants to be Free: 200+ Mimi and Eunice Cartoons by Nina Paley (SIGNED!) .::. Size~: 10.12 KBOct 29 22:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IE6 addiction throws monkey wrench into Windows 7 migration - Computerworld .::. Size~: 85.46 KBOct 29 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @webmink like how they implement their own version of html5/css in IE9? #thisIsBadNewFolksOct 29 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @xenijardin: This story of a Robocop costume for a little boy in Detroit is so amazing. Don't miss the pix ... is.gd/gsMaXOct 29 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @webmink Microsoft drops Silverlight, commits to HTML 5: http://zd.net/dctPsgOct 29 22:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft: Our strategy with Silverlight has shifted | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 147.12 KBOct 29 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: Microsoft drops Silverlight, commits to HTML 5: http://zd.net/dctPsgOct 29 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mjasay "...with some caveats about deferred income and jubilation but little perspective." http://ur1.ca/27s8cOct 29 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft: Our strategy with Silverlight has shifted | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 145.26 KBOct 29 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows Profit Declines Sharply Because of Competition From GNU/Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.93 KBOct 29 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] US Invasive Intimate Pat-Down Checks On Travellers Would Fail Research Ethics Review: http://icio.us/a54r40Oct 29 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @pietercolpaert No, this would be far more intentionally evil.Oct 29 22:43
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tessierschestowitz: You are doing a podcast?Oct 29 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Months ago !techrights was cited by many sites as saying #silverlight was nearly dead. Now it turns out we were right, had proof too.Oct 29 22:45
schestowitztessier: we did a pilotOct 29 22:46
schestowitzEpisode one is coming soon. You should be in :-)Oct 29 22:46
tessierCool. How would that work?Oct 29 22:46
schestowitzTim and I speak on VoIP a few times a week and recordOct 29 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Identica has moved from #adbard to #Google #AdSense. It's good. Now I see no ads anymore. Hail AdBlock.Oct 29 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] $ cat meowOct 29 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @jankusanagi I see no one uses them then.Oct 29 22:47
schestowitzThe pilot got good numbersOct 29 22:47
schestowitztessier: to clarify, the idea came from readersOct 29 22:47
schestowitzLike this IRC channel, wiki, etc.Oct 29 22:47
schestowitzAlmost all the things we do (even words like "hypePad" and "Vista 7") come from readersOct 29 22:48
schestowitzThis way I can blame them :-)Oct 29 22:48
schestowitzLuke Slater is feeding the mobbyist today... http://identi.ca/realityOct 29 22:50
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_Goblinschestowitz: "This way I can blame them :-)" - You just know that will be quoted out of context by some....I fully expect to see that fired back at you..... ;)Oct 29 22:51
schestowitzNo, I put a smiley faceOct 29 22:51
schestowitzThe notion of blaming reader in its own right is absurdOct 29 22:52
_Goblinthat can be removed...Oct 29 22:52
schestowitzI don"t like using the word reader, eitherOct 29 22:52
schestowitzIt implies passivenessOct 29 22:52
schestowitzLike "consumer"Oct 29 22:52
schestowitzGroklaw says "member"Oct 29 22:52
schestowitzWhich is an exaggeration for people who commented once or twieOct 29 22:52
_Goblin"Consumer" - doesn't that imply financial reward?Oct 29 22:52
schestowitzToo inclusiveOct 29 22:52
_GoblinparticipantsOct 29 22:53
schestowitzLike calling Da Costa "member of OpenBytes"Oct 29 22:53
schestowitzReader would be rightOct 29 22:53
schestowitzOr trollOct 29 22:53
_GoblinI like participant....Oct 29 22:53
schestowitzSounds like contentOct 29 22:53
schestowitzFSFE says Fellow and some such...Oct 29 22:53
_GoblincommenterOct 29 22:53
schestowitzSounds like researchOct 29 22:53
schestowitzcontributorOct 29 22:54
_Goblinwhat about...observerOct 29 22:54
schestowitzguardianOct 29 22:54
_Goblinlol..Oct 29 22:54
schestowitzGates' PR team called it "Gates keeper"Oct 29 22:54
_Goblintalking about off shelf press, you bought Linux Format yet>Oct 29 22:54
schestowitzThe one whose role is to make Gates look like a GodOct 29 22:55
schestowitzFull-time job to legions of peopleOct 29 22:55
schestowitz_Goblin: not yetOct 29 22:55
schestowitzI wonder if they post the text onlineOct 29 22:55
schestowitzIf not, some day I'll post that interviewOct 29 22:55
_GoblinIf it was me I would have made sure I was first in line....I got my copy a few days ago.....you really should get yourself a copy.....when you are old and grey its something to pull out of the draw and talk about.....Oct 29 22:56
schestowitzWhen I worked for a publisher the contract said I could post my articles in my site after 12 months or soOct 29 22:56
schestowitzWhen I become old and grey magazine will be memorabilia like punch cardsOct 29 22:57
schestowitz*zinesOct 29 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @juancarlospaco @tux2 You're a bit late to the party..... http://linuxoutlaws.com/podcast/166 ;)Oct 29 22:58
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_GoblinI keep meaning to ask this....Oct 29 22:59
_Goblinwhat on earth is a narwhal? I caught half of a LO podcast a few weeks ago and heard some song about them......Oct 29 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] VLC dev takes a stand against DRM in #AppStore -- http://fsf.org/sx-vlc001 -- VLC is !GPL. App Store contradicts freedom !fsf !gnu !lp !dbdOct 29 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Great to see Fodens #BrassBand working so well with Lions Youth Band - and what a concert (ears still ringing!) #CheshireLifeOct 29 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For two days in a row I was most prolific denter, first time to make the list this year, I think. :-) http://identi.ca/mrdenticatorOct 29 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @webmink they are not going to support WebM afaik and css3 looks different in ie9 than in all other browsers...Oct 29 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VLC developer takes a stand against DRM enforcement in Apple's App Store &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.43 KBOct 29 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mister Denticator (mrdenticator)  - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 33.13 KBOct 29 23:00
schestowitz_log_Goblin: see the pictureOct 29 23:01
_GoblinVLC dev might live to regret that....Apple might just pull him from the store...Oct 29 23:01
schestowitz[21:28] <schestowitz> "Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal"Oct 29 23:01
schestowitz[21:28] <schestowitz> When I look at it 'alta vista' mode I think "Nazi"Oct 29 23:01
schestowitz[21:28] <schestowitz> Just me?Oct 29 23:01
schestowitz[21:29] <schestowitz> Na* Na*Oct 29 23:01
schestowitz[21:30] <MinceR> :DOct 29 23:01
schestowitz[21:32] <schestowitz> Not just me then?Oct 29 23:01
schestowitz[21:32] <schestowitz> NadalOct 29 23:01
schestowitz[21:33] <schestowitz> Nutty NadalOct 29 23:01
schestowitz[21:33] <schestowitz> http://www.google.com/images?hl=&q=NadalOct 29 23:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nadal - Google Search .::. Size~: 64.76 KBOct 29 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @fsf VLC dev takes a stand against DRM in #AppStore -- http://fsf.org/sx-vlc001 -- VLC is GPL. App Store contradicts freedom.Oct 29 23:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VLC developer takes a stand against DRM enforcement in Apple's App Store &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.43 KBOct 29 23:02
schestowitz"Thanks, Roy. Check out Gartner's data on Windows, too (separate tweet)" http://twitter.com/mjasay/statuses/29123030133Oct 29 23:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Matt Asay: @schestowitz Thanks, Roy.  ... .::. Size~: 12.5 KBOct 29 23:02
schestowitzThat's nice, Matt still is in good terms w/ usOct 29 23:03
schestowitzGroklaw cited my exchange with him last weekOct 29 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] VLC dev takes a stand against DRM in #AppStore -- http://fsf.org/sx-vlc001 -- VLC is GPL. App Store contradicts freedom !librefmOct 29 23:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VLC developer takes a stand against DRM enforcement in Apple's App Store &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.43 KBOct 29 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Fodens dedicated a number to the late Maurice Murphy - remembered outside the #Brassband world 4 the StarWars soundtrack http://ur1.ca/27schOct 29 23:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @fsf: VLC dev takes a stand against DRM in #AppStore -- http://fsf.org/sx-vlc001 -- VLC is GPL. App Store contradicts freedom #crappleOct 29 23:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joindiaspora/@joindiaspora] October Update. http://bit.ly/97pkVrOct 29 23:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @royhugo "Digital Love" de Daft Punk -- sample of George Duke http://is.gd/gsiff #zappaOct 29 23:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Why join the navy if you can be a pirate?” --Steve "We've always been shameless about stealing great ideas" Jobs #Apple #Innovation #LieOct 29 23:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@fsf:VLC dev takes a stand against DRM in #AppStore http://fsf.org/sx-vlc001 VLC is !GPL. App Store contradicts freedom !fsf !gnu !lp !dbdOct 29 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bpglobalpr/@bpglobalpr] BPGlobalPR: Just had a killer brunch with @TheLaLaExec - he really wants to make our story into a 3D summer action ... http://ping.fm/PXdgvOct 29 23:28
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schestowitz_Goblin: non--caches downloads of the pilot episode are almost at 1000 nowOct 29 23:31
schestowitzNot sure how many if cached are included, could be much moreOct 29 23:32
_Goblin:)Oct 29 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jorgeegomez/@jorgeegomez] @schestowitz (or anyone at !techrights): help me find a quote where proprietary cos fight free sw legislation with "let the market decide"?Oct 29 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @ovigia ♺@fsf:VLC dev takes a stand against DRM in #AppStore http://fsf.org/sx-vlc001 VLC is !GPL. App Store contradicts freedom !fs ...Oct 29 23:33
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_GoblinIm debating on if I should go and see Social Network when I'm off a week sunday....Oct 29 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody New Koobface Variant Infects Linux Systems - http://bit.ly/dwO3DF .. if you're stupid enough to accept proffered java appletOct 29 23:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @laurelrusswurm Memo to World: Stop !ACTA Now - a New Oh !Canada post: http://ur1.ca/27pa0 #democracy #cdnpoli #CharlieAngus @MarietjeD66Oct 29 23:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @ender2070 you'll love this! http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2010/10/28/carbon-trading-scheme-obesity-scu/Oct 29 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @johnsu01 RD @fsf VLC dev takes a stand against DRM in #AppStore -- http://fsf.org/sx-vlc001 -- VLC is GPL. App Store contradicts fre ...Oct 29 23:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Carbon trading project a world first | Sunshine Coast Health | Fitness and Medical News in Sunshine Coast | The Sunshine Coast Daily .::. Size~: 79.67 KBOct 29 23:42
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schestowitzmany examples from Mirosoft front groups like BSA and CompTIA. Need one specific example? They use "openness"->"choice" spinOct 29 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jorgeegomez New IT plan introduced by our gov (vivedigital.gov.co): its 1st principle:"The market until possible, the State 'til nece..Oct 29 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just pulled down Gnome Shell in #F14 again. Running that now, looks even more sharp then when I tried it last. #screwunityOct 29 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Emma Jane works for you now? Nice.... :)Oct 29 23:47
schestowitz[17:03] <gnufreex> Yeah. And he said "we do comercial open source, I don't know why people hate everything compercial". What people hate is propriatary, not comercial. And they are doing propriatary software not open source. That is word play that RMS warns about.Oct 29 23:48
schestowitzLousy IDGOct 29 23:48
schestowitzHotmail.com writers in pseudo-FOSS 'blogs'..Oct 29 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @erikjfisher: Facebook Acquires Simple File-sharing Service Drop.io http://j.mp/cGIgE8Oct 29 23:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @csarven Browser tab one is the new email inbox zero.Oct 29 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @mohanpram: Mount Everest now 'wired' for Internet, ready for Starbucks & WoW http://ur1.ca/27lfx > coffee good in cold weatherOct 29 23:53
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schestowitz_Goblin: [17:16] <gnufreex> The song is expecialy great. I fought a troll and... Troll lost!Oct 29 23:56
schestowitzJust caught up with that remarkOct 29 23:56
schestowitz[12:37] <gnufreex> schestowitz: I am listening the show right now. Great work!Oct 29 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh It is a shame they're moving to Unity. I wonder if this is all to do with Canonical's Chrome OS involvement? Visual similarities?Oct 29 23:58

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