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| _Goblin | Hi sebsebseb ! | Nov 08 00:16 |
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| ThistleWeb | sebsebseb: no | Nov 08 00:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right going to work on an intro on Monday....have some posts which are way overdue too....and best of all....Im off work for a few days! | Nov 08 00:19 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: ok well in that notice it did say Ubuntu Wayland, but yeah the link is probably just on about Ubuntu using it | Nov 08 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | well lets find out | Nov 08 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yeah hi | Nov 08 00:19 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah it's about ubuntu using it with unity which they did create | Nov 08 00:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Should I have a quick go of Auteria??? mmmm go on...just 5 minutes... | Nov 08 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Oh, lucky you! Enjoy! | Nov 08 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes BTW, could make it work. The issue is with the joypad. If it's connected, the game acts weird. | Nov 08 00:22 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: yeah this Unity by default stuff is rather hmm really | Nov 08 00:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith level 16 now...finally getting somewhere! I deserve a little break..been very busy over the last two weeks! | Nov 08 00:24 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: for desktop version as well starting with 11.04 instead of Gnome Shell | Nov 08 00:24 |
| ThistleWeb | it's brave, it may also turn out to be a good thing after all the dust has settled, on the other hand it might backfire, I'd wait and see before judging it | Nov 08 00:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes I could lvl up to 1. Ehehehe. | Nov 08 00:25 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: and as a result of this Unity stuff, with the copy right assignments on top of it, resulting in upstream Gnome not just being able to use it, and how other distros won't just use it, becsue of the copyright assingments or have in their repos I mean | Nov 08 00:25 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: I don't think I can happily help loads of people with Ubuntu anymore | Nov 08 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | plus other distros :) | Nov 08 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: and I am quite unhappy with 10.04 and 10.10 personalley | Nov 08 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | except for Unity actsauly when I tried in 10.10 on this desktop with it installed for about a week | Nov 08 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah, but that was a mutter Unity, and before Gnome Shell ready and all that, so yeah | Nov 08 00:27 |
| ThistleWeb | I fogort I have to turn off the notifications with you to be able to see the top part of my screen | Nov 08 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: uh you mean, because of the way I type or? and what do you mean notifications? | Nov 08 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | anyway Ubuntu whatever, Mageia alpha 1 next month yay :) | Nov 08 00:28 |
| ThistleWeb | libnotify (I think) | Nov 08 00:28 |
| ThistleWeb | popping up mentions on irc and identica | Nov 08 00:28 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] The Perfect Desktop - Linux Mint Debian 201009: Howtoforge: "This tutorial shows how you can set up a Linux Mint... http://bit.ly/9kQz7j | Nov 08 00:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Today - The Perfect Desktop - Linux Mint Debian 201009 .::. Size~: 77.6 KB | Nov 08 00:29 |
| ThistleWeb | when you have one after the other popping up, the whole top of the screen is hidden under them until they time out, by that time another has popped up to take it's place....all while I decided to look at the identica stream and can't see it | Nov 08 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | hmm so linuxtoday is on identica now hmm | Nov 08 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | interesting | Nov 08 00:32 |
| ThistleWeb | probably twitter | Nov 08 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: oh yeah it says TRT so Twitter | Nov 08 00:32 |
| ThistleWeb | a lot of FOSS stuff seems to be quite content using twitter | Nov 08 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | anyway thats interesting, that it has the how to forge link for LMDE appearing here now, because I got someone to give the link to :) | Nov 08 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | what do you mean quite content? not wanting to, or wanting to? | Nov 08 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: I have a little problem when it comes to Twitter, someone else uses this name on it, but I don't want to use that site anyway | Nov 08 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | identica though :) | Nov 08 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | why open source people supporting Twitter loads anyway, its propritary, and identica is the open source people one :) | Nov 08 00:34 |
| ThistleWeb | twitter does contribute to open source surprisingly, but yeah it's a closed platform | Nov 08 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | They contribute to open source how? | Nov 08 00:35 |
| ThistleWeb | twitter.com/opencource I think | Nov 08 00:36 |
| ThistleWeb | twitter.com/opensource I think | Nov 08 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 08 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: thats for a group it seems | Nov 08 00:39 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: that page | Nov 08 00:39 |
| sebsebseb | or something | Nov 08 00:39 |
| ThistleWeb | try googling twitter open source | Nov 08 00:40 |
| ThistleWeb | there is a page listing the projects they contribute to, none of them I've heard of | Nov 08 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | you could have given a direct link, but yeah I got on it after Google | Nov 08 00:42 |
| sebsebseb | anyway uhmm | Nov 08 00:42 |
| sebsebseb | cassandra I think I may have read about some project called that | Nov 08 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | and maybe for flockdb as well | Nov 08 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | not sure though | Nov 08 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | and those two programs use Ruby or whatever, and yeah I know that Ruby exists and Ruby on rails | Nov 08 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: I think Facebook contribute to some open source projects as well | Nov 08 00:44 |
| ThistleWeb | hence the "I think" part, meaning "off the top of my head" | Nov 08 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: yes what about that? I used I think, and yep thats what it means, what may or may not remember | Nov 08 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | what may or may not have read | Nov 08 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | what may have thought had read, but might not have read at all | Nov 08 00:46 |
| ThistleWeb | I remember seeing the page, but not what the link was | Nov 08 00:46 |
| ThistleWeb | I remember it surprising me at the time | Nov 08 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: Twitter is like Google and Facebook, and so on | Nov 08 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | hyped up big time | Nov 08 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | ,but not neassirely that great | Nov 08 00:48 |
| *sebsebseb would rather use stuff from non profit organisations and volunter developers, then from for profit companies when comes to computer software :) | Nov 08 00:49 | |
| sebsebseb | useually that is | Nov 08 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: companies mess stuff up at times | Nov 08 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | be that tech or something else | Nov 08 00:49 |
| ThistleWeb | that's fine, the point was that they do actually contribute to FOSS, even though they are closed | Nov 08 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | yep I picked up on the point, and just now I went off topic a bit in a way, but yeah | Nov 08 00:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #vick is a rider #philly #nfl | Nov 08 00:50 | |
| ThistleWeb | they also don't attack FOSS as far as I know | Nov 08 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: ,but on the subject of what I just said, for that very reason, I think its great that Mandriva is being forked :) and that it will have a non profit organisation behind it :) and anyway Mandriva has been a failure as a for profit company for a few years now, for various reasons, and coudn't just compete properly against Canonical and such, so yeah | Nov 08 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: well the clever companies use opensource/freesoftware to save money, but the nicer ones, also don't attack it :) | Nov 08 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | money would be the main reason for companies to save money I guess, but there is also the being more in control reasons since the software is open | Nov 08 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | above that should have been, saving money would be the main reason for companies using open source I guess | Nov 08 00:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Last minute Severed Fifth show scheduled in benefit of Nicci from Falling To Pieces - http://is.gd/gOTLY - 13 Nov in Livermore #severedfifth | Nov 08 00:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] listening to !TechBytes ep 2 | Nov 08 00:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fri 13th Nov Benefit Show For Nicci From Falling To Pieces | Severed Fifth .::. Size~: 20.07 KB | Nov 08 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: and also companies may support opensource / open standards a bit more, when their propritary alternative doesn't really work out properly, a recent exaple of this is Microsoft and Silverlight, how they will still do Silverlight for their phone OS, but will support HTML 5 on the desktop | Nov 08 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah ThistleWeb and _Goblin techbytes still not listended to any of those yet | Nov 08 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ^ | Nov 08 00:55 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Last minute Severed Fifth show scheduled in benefit of Nicci from Falling To Pieces - http://is.gd/gOTLY - 13 Nov in Livermore #severedfifth | Nov 08 00:55 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: I thought about replying to you just then on identica, but nah | Nov 08 00:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fri 13th Nov Benefit Show For Nicci From Falling To Pieces | Severed Fifth .::. Size~: 20.07 KB | Nov 08 00:55 |
| ThistleWeb | a large part is using a chunk of work that's already been done by others, so they don't have to, so they only need to code their own changes to it rather than the full thing from scratch | Nov 08 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | and indeed @ what you just typed/put | Nov 08 00:55 |
| ThistleWeb | corps do contribute to projects that help them in some roundabout way | Nov 08 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | however thats also how Canonical do Ubuntu | Nov 08 00:56 |
| ThistleWeb | it's largely what google do | Nov 08 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical mainly take code, do some patches, and more recnetly more of thier own software projects as well, Ubuntu One, Ubuntu One Music Store, Software Centre, and Unity | Nov 08 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | they also use people who think, Ubuntu is so great | Nov 08 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | be they just support people, who are doing it as volunters, or developers who are programming stuff for it | Nov 08 00:57 |
| ThistleWeb | they also draw in a lot of users to linux, increasing the linux marketshare, mindshare etc which helps all of us | Nov 08 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | or even ubuntu fan boys on omgubuntu.co.uk for example | Nov 08 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: right, but maybe more users go back to Windows, because their wireless didn't just work for example, and then think Linux sucks | Nov 08 00:58 |
| ThistleWeb | that can happen on any distro | Nov 08 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: sure, but in general wireless seems to work better on most/all of the other popular Desktop Linux distros :) | Nov 08 00:59 |
| ThistleWeb | or it could be the time they try to get help, and a distros support channel has like 10 peeps, and they're all sleeping, or just ignore the support request | Nov 08 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | who? | Nov 08 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | what channel? | Nov 08 00:59 |
| ThistleWeb | the channel of any distro they try and have a bad experience | Nov 08 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | they try and have a bad expereince? | Nov 08 01:00 |
| _Goblin | Right...Im off...time for bed.....see you all tomorrow.... "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast" | Nov 08 01:01 |
| ThistleWeb | you're trying to say that people drawn into linux may have a bad experience (in your example with wireless) and think "oh linux is bad", my point is that it can happen for many reasons, not just wireless, on any distro, leading to the same wrong conclusion | Nov 08 01:01 |
| *_Goblin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Nov 08 01:01 | |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: ok good night | Nov 08 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | oh he left already ah well | Nov 08 01:01 |
| ThistleWeb | for all it's flaws, at least ubuntu have a large portion of PPAs, blog howtos, forum posts etc | Nov 08 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: and my point is, that Ubuntu's it just works, hardware support, sucks a lot of the time, when it comes to wireless and even sound, and graphics cards here and there | Nov 08 01:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] getting out of the crib for night wind. | Nov 08 01:02 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: hang out in that big Ubuntu channel enough, and you'll see exactly what I mean | Nov 08 01:02 |
| ThistleWeb | remember the comparision......it's against WINDOWS | Nov 08 01:02 |
| ThistleWeb | even a flawed ubuntu ootb will be a more pleasent experience than windows | Nov 08 01:02 |
| ThistleWeb | and a breath of fresh air | Nov 08 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: most of these popoular distros have good forums I guess, I am an IRC person not forum by the way. IRC is quite good for a lot of distros, and the info on the web | Nov 08 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu just happens to have more of it than the other distros at the moment | Nov 08 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | since its most used on desktop | Nov 08 01:03 |
| ThistleWeb | plenty of distros have very small communities, so their howtos, forums and irc can be dead for periods of time | Nov 08 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | the big Ubuntu channel gets quite a lot of noob type support in it as well, noobs trying to do support | Nov 08 01:04 |
| ThistleWeb | a lack of activity when you need help is just as much of a putoff | Nov 08 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | there are some main helpers who know stuff when it comes to a lot of stuff, and then yeah thats about it | Nov 08 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | and Ubuntu is mainly so popular since its been hyped up since 2004 | Nov 08 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | and it was a great distro before well i'll say 9.10 | Nov 08 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | even though 9.04 is where it started going down hill for me, but it was only something very litlte in 9.04 anyway | Nov 08 01:05 |
| ThistleWeb | canonical have pumped a lot of money bringing linxu to the mainstream mindset | Nov 08 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | and Mandrake used to be the one with most support stuff and all that | Nov 08 01:06 |
| ThistleWeb | no other distro has been able to do that | Nov 08 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | yes, but | Nov 08 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical may also start doing vender lock in soon | Nov 08 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | I mean Unity | Nov 08 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | well Unity is happening anyway, but let me explain | Nov 08 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | what I mean | Nov 08 01:06 |
| ThistleWeb | yes, and plenty of people will jump from ubuntu to another distro if they don't agree with ubuntu's direction or policies | Nov 08 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | since the Canonical copyright assignments, upsteram Gnome can't just use Unity if they want to, but also since how Linux is you know the polotics or whatever you want to call it, other distros won't just ship it by default, and maybe not even provide in their repos | Nov 08 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | and maybe that will be the case, even if Unity gets really popular | Nov 08 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | and yes what you just said, but most of their users, are very ignorant about ubuntu's direction and past | Nov 08 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | and about upstreams and so on | Nov 08 01:07 |
| ThistleWeb | "people ignorant of the tech they use" welcome to the real world of the average user | Nov 08 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | and there aren't enough people out there, telling these people about things | Nov 08 01:08 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] How To Profit From Planetary-Scale Computing http://bit.ly/9yW95Q | Nov 08 01:08 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] FBI Watching Oracle-SAP Trial http://bit.ly/dBGipW | Nov 08 01:08 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] TV Tropes Self-Censoring Under Google Pressure http://bit.ly/bdCSXZ | Nov 08 01:08 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Oops that should have said Fri 12th. | Nov 08 01:08 | |
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| sebsebseb | and if other distrso don't just have Unity in their repos or by default even, users may get locked into Ubuntu | Nov 08 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | since they want Unity | Nov 08 01:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Oops that should have said Fri 12th. | Nov 08 01:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Before I finish for the night: On the subject of !RPG ,if you have an Android phone check out Andromud ( !MUD client)..ah my misspent youth! | Nov 08 01:09 | |
| sebsebseb | and those users won't just try and install it into another distro them selves loads of them | Nov 08 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | so thats what I mean by vender lock in | Nov 08 01:09 |
| ThistleWeb | when they are aware of a choice aka "ooh what do you mean you don't need windows?" they are more aware of various linux options | Nov 08 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | quite a few people don't even know about a distro | Nov 08 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | that distros exist | Nov 08 01:09 |
| ThistleWeb | what locks them in to unity? | Nov 08 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | there are people who think Ubuntu = Linux | Nov 08 01:09 |
| ThistleWeb | eh? without that awareness, they wouldn't be using ubuntu, they'd be on windows | Nov 08 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | if they want Unity, but they can't just have it in another distro, then they have to use Ubuntu for it really | Nov 08 01:10 |
| ThistleWeb | the fact that they use ubuntu at all shows they are aware of choice | Nov 08 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | maybe so, but most of these users aren't properly aware of distro choice | Nov 08 01:10 |
| ThistleWeb | the fact that they use ubuntu at all shows they are capable of relearning a new UI since they already have done once | Nov 08 01:10 |
| ThistleWeb | so what part of Unity locks them in? | Nov 08 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | they don't know for example, that distros like Mandriva and PC LInux OS or even that Unity Linux a PLOS fork, may be more user friendly than Ubuntu for htem by a long way, since the control centre and such | Nov 08 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | and they may not know about Gnome Shell loads of the new users come Ubuntu 11.04, for a very long time | Nov 08 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: and Ubuntu is mainly hyped up, technically compared to many of the other distros, it really does suck these days. however I am not so keen on the Gnome paching and so on myself, but from a end user point of view, I can understand why certain people quite like it, I mean Gnome 2 hasn't really changed much in the last few years for the end user, features that are actsaully seen by them and used | Nov 08 01:12 |
| ThistleWeb | lockin is about creating files that only work in one | Nov 08 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: sure, which Unity will be or will sort of be | Nov 08 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: if pretty much every other distro, refuses to have it in their repo | Nov 08 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | and thats my point | Nov 08 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: Gnome Shell thats fine, even Ubuntu will have that in the repo, Gnome Shell is going in basically every distro that does Gnome, since its upstream | Nov 08 01:14 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a different UI | Nov 08 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | thats something else, Ubuntu/Canonical are being like an upstream with Unity, but wrongly, since the copyright assignments | Nov 08 01:14 |
| ThistleWeb | they didn't create files that omnly open in unity | Nov 08 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | if they get rid of the CA, many other distros will be more willing to have it in their repos as an option I expect, if it becomes popular enough, and liked enough by many people | Nov 08 01:15 |
| sebsebseb | vencer lock in, is when someone relys on a peice of software way to much | Nov 08 01:15 |
| sebsebseb | not just file formats | Nov 08 01:15 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: Canonical is a company, they are in it for the money | Nov 08 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu is a commerical product, not a free software project | Nov 08 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | if you get what I mean | Nov 08 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: I am not so sure about Ubuntu anymore to be honest | Nov 08 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | when it comes to users | Nov 08 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | before it would be liek, yeah lets support Ubuntu, help people get away from Windows, and use Ubuntu, and yeah I was more ok with that | Nov 08 01:18 |
| ThistleWeb | none of their data is held hostage and only usabel in unity | Nov 08 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | ,but now I am not so sure since how things are heading, s and at the end of the day, most computer users are going to be using Windows for well many years to come yet, so it doesn't matter that much, even if I help 100 people become happy Ubuntu users | Nov 08 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | it doesn't matter that much | Nov 08 01:19 |
| ThistleWeb | there is no .unity file extentuion that is binary blob files | Nov 08 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | since Windows will still be the most used | Nov 08 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | on desktop | Nov 08 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | and then many of them would be ignorant newbies for quite a while anyway, and start buying stuff from Canonical some of them even uh | Nov 08 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | actsaully thats not quite true, if I am helping them, becasue I do stuff properly :) educate a bit, make people aware of some stuff | Nov 08 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | and I meant if I help 100 people rather porperly with this kind of stuff, not just some quick support in a IRC channel | Nov 08 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: also with Unity quite a few of the Gnome develoeprs are annoyed and so on. Ubuntu :( these days, other distros :) for me I mean and so on. | Nov 08 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: anyway someone installed LMDE earlier :) | Nov 08 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: that I had been helping | Nov 08 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | and when it comes to distros, I want to support 100% community distros these days, not commercial distros like Ubuntu | Nov 08 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | distros with non profit organisations behind them | Nov 08 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: I used to find Ubuntu great before 9.04, but then mixed feelings good and bad so hmm. anyway yeah I won't just support people with Ubuntu anymore or not for now, but i'll stlill have my eye on it a bit, to have an idea whats going on and such | Nov 08 01:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #sanctuary | Nov 08 01:45 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @BR3NDA: if you were accused of copyright infringment right now, how would you prove you didn't do it? | Nov 08 01:55 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @craignewmark: I hate them pigs. RT @QueenofSpain: I have to admit though, my 7yr old is right. Those damn pigs are bastards | Nov 08 01:55 | |
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| ThistleWeb | pc locked up, had to hard restart | Nov 08 02:02 |
| ThistleWeb | damn firefox | Nov 08 02:02 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: oh your back | Nov 08 02:04 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: well typed some more stuff, and that was that, I thought you had gone to bed or something | Nov 08 02:04 |
| ThistleWeb | nah my ram was running at a solid 94% desktop froze for ages | Nov 08 02:05 |
| ThistleWeb | uploading a new ep to blip, which seemed to be fine, then firefox decided that it wanted to eat all of my ram and swap partition | Nov 08 02:06 |
| ThistleWeb | I had hoped the file was at least there. but it seems not, so I have to upload again | Nov 08 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: so you missed some stuff about Ubuntu usuers and, 100 people helping them if I did that and how it woudn't matter, and stuff like that, and I mentioned how I got someone to install LMDE earlier | Nov 08 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | or well thats from the section/chunk of the chat I didn't get a reply to | Nov 08 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I just went to the omgubuntu site | Nov 08 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | and | Nov 08 02:07 |
| ThistleWeb | missed the lmde part | Nov 08 02:07 |
| ThistleWeb | basicly the last 30mins or so I guess | Nov 08 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | theres an entry about how Nivida won't support wayland | Nov 08 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | however good blog entry that one | Nov 08 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | 01:18 according to my computer clock, which might be a bit wrong was the last message from you | Nov 08 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | 01:24 was the last message from me | Nov 08 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | and theres also this | Nov 08 02:09 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah because wayland was all the rage, with every distro using it when nvidea took a decision not to support it right? | Nov 08 02:09 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd never heard of it before this week | Nov 08 02:09 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm guessing nvidea may be in the same boat | Nov 08 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | [01:27] <-- ThistleWeb has left this server (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). | Nov 08 02:09 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I hadn't heard about it either, untill the other day | Nov 08 02:10 |
| ThistleWeb | if they see most linux users as ubuntu, and ubuntu using wayland, they may decide differently | Nov 08 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | unless maybe I read something about Wayland before and forgot of course | Nov 08 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | right, but | Nov 08 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | well have a read of this blog entry | Nov 08 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: or maybe I should identica it quickly so it can go around or whatever hmm | Nov 08 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | except hardly anyone follows me on there yet anyway, but schestowitz could rt it, but hes away right now anyway, and its already slihglty old news | Nov 08 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | uh whatever right ok lets do it here | Nov 08 02:11 |
| ThistleWeb | denting it posts it for people who follow you | Nov 08 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: yeah exactly, but not that many yet | Nov 08 02:11 |
| ThistleWeb | I can't be bothered reading a blog post right now | Nov 08 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: you follow me? | Nov 08 02:11 |
| sebsebseb | its quite short | Nov 08 02:11 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm also dubious about this convo since you seem unaware what "lock in" actually means, yet feel fit to use it in an argument | Nov 08 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: that was the previous convo | Nov 08 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | this is another now | Nov 08 02:12 |
| ThistleWeb | yes but it sets the tone for the rest | Nov 08 02:12 |
| ThistleWeb | for me, unity, wayland etc are all "plans" "directions" for the future, where they wanna be, they are not a final end product that's ready to be reviewed and trashed | Nov 08 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: wayland will be quite a while yet | Nov 08 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | Unity is already here | Nov 08 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | that is the mutter netbook edition version | Nov 08 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | and the Compiz version is indeed coming for 11.04 | Nov 08 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | desktop | Nov 08 02:14 |
| ThistleWeb | and yet you feel nvidea have made a final decision on it, not to support it | Nov 08 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: no no | Nov 08 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | thats what the omgubuntu headline was saying | Nov 08 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | and such | Nov 08 02:15 |
| ThistleWeb | you just told me nvidea said they wouldnt support it | Nov 08 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | however the blog entry not quite | Nov 08 02:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Hackers Break Microsoft's Kinect Security http://ur1.ca/2aky9 | Nov 08 02:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito: One of my friend had a cool insight, we all know Ichigo lost his shinigami powers, but he things still retains hollow powers | Nov 08 02:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Privacy and Security Fanatic: Hackers Break Microsoft's Kinect Security | Network World .::. Size~: 80.22 KB | Nov 08 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: according to the blog entry they have no plans at the moment | Nov 08 02:15 |
| ThistleWeb | ahh, which is different to what you were trailing it as | Nov 08 02:16 |
| *ThistleWeb senses shifting sands | Nov 08 02:16 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: it also mentioend their lack of KMS support, but heres the thing | Nov 08 02:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz you're already fully id'd if you buy w/ credit or debit card. Do you use cash? I rarely do. | Nov 08 02:17 | |
| sebsebseb | yes Plymouth is still not so good with the Nivida driver in Ubuntu in 10.10, but not as bad as 10.04 | Nov 08 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | shows the like alternative screen | Nov 08 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | text boot or whatever, like Fedora does | Nov 08 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | however with Mandriva | Nov 08 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | their Plymouth screen, works fine, propritary driver or not, for me, on well I think I tried on both computers here, or maybe just one | Nov 08 02:18 |
| sebsebseb | so hmm | Nov 08 02:18 |
| ThistleWeb | what part of "work in progress" don't you understand? doesn't support it "now" is NOT "won't support it", nor is it "we refuse to support it", nor is it "will never support it in time for when people actually start using it", it's just "currently it doesn't support it" | Nov 08 02:19 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm sure there's millions of examples of stuff that's unsupoorted right now | Nov 08 02:20 |
| ThistleWeb | including a lot of stuff nobody's thought of yet | Nov 08 02:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Something we've all known for along time is suddently going mainstream http://ping.fm/hB422 | Nov 08 02:20 | |
| ThistleWeb | canonical are looking at this for what 12.something? | Nov 08 02:21 |
| ThistleWeb | this is the end of 2010 | Nov 08 02:21 |
| ThistleWeb | they have plenty of time to play with it, fill in some gaps and get it useable before people start using it | Nov 08 02:21 |
| ThistleWeb | and if they're the only ones who are switching, then people won't experience it from anyone else before then, unless they are tech savy and want to isnatll and try it | Nov 08 02:22 |
| ThistleWeb | in which case they know it's early and it's gonna be flawed | Nov 08 02:22 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: and as the blog entry says even if Nivida don't support it, the open driver may be good enough | Nov 08 02:23 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: well thats basically what it says, see for youself, the bot should have it here soon | Nov 08 02:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/nvidia-have-no-plans-to-support-wayland/ | Nov 08 02:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NVIDIA have no plans to support Wayland .::. Size~: 81.35 KB | Nov 08 02:24 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm sure plenty of corps said they'd not support linux, who now don't make their stuff windows only, effectivly supporting linux | Nov 08 02:24 |
| ThistleWeb | tabloid headlines and posts from omgubuntu what a surprise | Nov 08 02:26 |
| ThistleWeb | it's why I don't subscribe to them | Nov 08 02:26 |
| ThistleWeb | who knows, maybe other distros will also jump on the wayland bandwagon | Nov 08 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | well whats wrong with xorg? | Nov 08 02:27 |
| ThistleWeb | every chance that will happen | Nov 08 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | yes xorg can mess up sometimes | Nov 08 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Nov 08 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | as the saying goes | Nov 08 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | its the beast we know | Nov 08 02:28 |
| ThistleWeb | whats wrong with win95? | Nov 08 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | yeah the beast we know after many years of using it | Nov 08 02:28 |
| ThistleWeb | or even DOS | Nov 08 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | nvidia can suck my dick | Nov 08 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | nvidia. | Nov 08 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | can. | Nov 08 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | suck. | Nov 08 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | my dick. | Nov 08 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | their hardware is slow ass shit | Nov 08 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | also whats worng with Grub 0.97 well nothing, according to Mandriva, Fedora, PC Linux OS, I guess that Unity Linux I haven't tried yet even and so on, yep they still use it, instead of this Grub 2 thing uh | Nov 08 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | their drivers are buggy shit | Nov 08 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | they hate linux | Nov 08 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | they unofficially threatened to sue novaeu | Nov 08 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Nov 08 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they do everything possible to derail X | Nov 08 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | so | Nov 08 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | fuck them | Nov 08 02:29 |
| ThistleWeb | as I understand it, xorg is one of the *nix tech that's grown unweildy over the yrs because nobody has been willing to put the time and effort in on unglamorous tasks to refine it | Nov 08 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im going to get <3 AMD tatooed on my arm | Nov 08 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | AMD/ATI are known for bad graphics card support, or with Ubuntu anyway | Nov 08 02:29 |
| ThistleWeb | as a result it's aincient because there's no other options | Nov 08 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: no, thats ubuntu sucking dick | Nov 08 02:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: dont get confused. | Nov 08 02:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: AMD supports _Linux_, they dont support specific distros | Nov 08 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: yep same thing for the wireless issue most of the time as well I guess, yeah the wireless not working a lot of the time issue, that I mentioned to ThistleWeb earlier | Nov 08 02:30 |
| ThistleWeb | Diablo-D3: is it possible you can have a convo without coming across like a 10yr old? | Nov 08 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | thing is other distros seem to do wireless better a lot of them | Nov 08 02:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only thing Ubuntu gets is early beta drivers | Nov 08 02:30 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm sure I've seen it from time to time | Nov 08 02:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | ThistleWeb: is it possible you can ragequit before you waste people's time again? | Nov 08 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: indeed he does swear and such a lot in here when he chats | Nov 08 02:31 |
| ThistleWeb | wtf are you blabbering about? | Nov 08 02:31 |
| ThistleWeb | waste who's time? | Nov 08 02:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | Quit being an nvidia apologist, dude. | Nov 08 02:32 |
| ThistleWeb | k, so it's no allowed to have an opinion other than yours | Nov 08 02:32 |
| ThistleWeb | wanna let us know what our official opinions are? | Nov 08 02:32 |
| ThistleWeb | just so we don't waste any more of your time? | Nov 08 02:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | you're in the wrong channel if you want to be pro-Microsoft, ThistleWeb. | Nov 08 02:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] but that's how the world is. soon we are dust and bones and the next generation gets to ride. keep breathing humans. | Nov 08 02:34 | |
| ThistleWeb | Diablo-D3: do you actually read what you type? where in that convo am I "pro Microsoft"? | Nov 08 02:34 |
| ThistleWeb | or is this you in troll mode? | Nov 08 02:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | nvidia is another wing of microsoft's anti-linux fanclub. | Nov 08 02:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | you support them, you support microsoft. | Nov 08 02:35 |
| ThistleWeb | it must be odd living in a black and white world, where everything is either for you or against you | Nov 08 02:35 |
| ThistleWeb | in the meantime, I'm not putting up with this shit | Nov 08 02:35 |
| ThistleWeb | I had you down as someone who could hold an adult convo | Nov 08 02:36 |
| ThistleWeb | apparently I was wrong | Nov 08 02:36 |
| cubezzz | I've been adovating a switch to ATI for a while now | Nov 08 02:36 |
| ThistleWeb | thankfully IRC has an ignore function | Nov 08 02:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wonder what its like being a Microsoft shill. | Nov 08 02:36 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe you should ask one | Nov 08 02:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: I dont know why people waste their money | Nov 08 02:36 |
| ThistleWeb | Diablo-D3!*@* added to ignore list. <<just so you don't "waste your time" trolling me | Nov 08 02:37 |
| cubezzz | the nvidia cards do heat up a fair bit | Nov 08 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: even if they're on windows gaming, nvidia still underperforms greatly. | Nov 08 02:37 |
| cubezzz | over 80C sometimes | Nov 08 02:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito hmm that makes sense. I would like him to have his hollow powers just to chane up the pace a bit :) | Nov 08 02:37 | |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: oh, and you know what their news is? | Nov 08 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | a future unnamed card will use a vapor chamber. | Nov 08 02:39 |
| cubezzz | nope | Nov 08 02:39 |
| cubezzz | oh | Nov 08 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | big fucking whoop | Nov 08 02:39 |
| ThistleWeb | nvidea may be binary blobs, they may not be great on linux but at least nvidea supply them | Nov 08 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | amd has been shipping cards that do that for over a year | Nov 08 02:40 |
| ThistleWeb | like flash, if that's what you need, they are at least there | Nov 08 02:40 |
| cubezzz | I see flash as a control mechanism | Nov 08 02:40 |
| ThistleWeb | buying linux compatible hardware is one thing if you know you're switching, and have the time, knowledge and interest in researching it | Nov 08 02:41 |
| cubezzz | even ebay uses flash as a control | Nov 08 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: oh, and they had some 3D demo that shows off their tess function... I could run that on a radeon 5870 and get the same performance | Nov 08 02:41 |
| ThistleWeb | it's no use to you if you already bought it and try to switch | Nov 08 02:41 |
| ThistleWeb | so many people have issues with ati cards | Nov 08 02:41 |
| ThistleWeb | where they wont work at all in linux | Nov 08 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: its stupid, programmable tess is already required by the newest opengl standard, AMD supported it before the standard came out, and nvidia STILL isnt shipping hardware that can do it | Nov 08 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | its insnae | Nov 08 02:42 |
| cubezzz | did you see that homebrew z80 system? | Nov 08 02:42 |
| ThistleWeb | to me, a binary blob where it actually works, even if it's not brilliant or FOSS is a slightly better position than not working at all | Nov 08 02:42 |
| cubezzz | very clever | Nov 08 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: nvidia is going to go bankrupt real soon if they cant fix their shit | Nov 08 02:42 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Nov 08 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | if they delay shipping of this 500 series or whatever they call it any longer, AMD is going to start talking about radeon 7000s. | Nov 08 02:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | and from what I heard, 500 is not going to be ready for christmas | Nov 08 02:43 |
| ThistleWeb | ahh I just figured out why you're trolling now, schestowitz is not here to see it | Nov 08 02:43 |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, I was able to compile my own video driver for Radeon | Nov 08 02:43 |
| cubezzz | so if I really wanted to, I could fix bugs :) | Nov 08 02:44 |
| cubezzz | in theory at least | Nov 08 02:44 |
| ThistleWeb | cubezzz: good for you, as you know video cards and drivers are notoriously closed | Nov 08 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | anyhow, Im going to bed | Nov 08 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | night all | Nov 08 02:44 |
| cubezzz | later | Nov 08 02:44 |
| ThistleWeb | which means you're reliant on the policies of the corp | Nov 08 02:44 |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, but that was my point, it's not closed I have the source | Nov 08 02:45 |
| ThistleWeb | for the average user, compiling a driver isn't exactly a "hey welcome to linux, it's so much easier here" | Nov 08 02:45 |
| cubezzz | yeah I know | Nov 08 02:45 |
| ThistleWeb | so any card that at least has a linux driver is a better option | Nov 08 02:46 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure very very few people compile their own drivers | Nov 08 02:46 |
| ThistleWeb | in the real world, almost every tech company partners with MS in some way | Nov 08 02:47 |
| ThistleWeb | having 90% of the market share kinda forces that | Nov 08 02:47 |
| cubezzz | it was Radeon Mobility 7500 so I'm way out of date, but there it is | Nov 08 02:47 |
| ThistleWeb | chances are almost 100% of their customers use windows too | Nov 08 02:47 |
| cubezzz | I did a 1/2 hour audio program on alternative OSes | Nov 08 02:48 |
| cubezzz | plus I sell Linux laptops, so my perspective is a bit different from average | Nov 08 02:49 |
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| ThistleWeb | the discussion was about wayland and unity, where 1 example of why it's bad is nvideas stance on it, before it was trolled by a 10yr old with a dirty daiper | Nov 08 02:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Preserving science: what data do we keep? What do we discard? http://ur1.ca/2al5z | Nov 08 02:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Preserving science: what data do we keep? What do we discard? .::. Size~: 35.98 KB | Nov 08 02:50 |
| cubezzz | I've heard about wayland | Nov 08 02:50 |
| ThistleWeb | but hey, just as lefty plays, if you have a chip on your shoulder you just want any excuse to vent it and attack anyone who even vaguely shows a disenting opinion | Nov 08 02:50 |
| ThistleWeb | I hadn't until this week | Nov 08 02:51 |
| cubezzz | yeah I'm trying to argue less :) | Nov 08 02:51 |
| cubezzz | it's just not productive | Nov 08 02:51 |
| ThistleWeb | exactly | Nov 08 02:51 |
| ThistleWeb | disagreements are fine, that's life, we're all different, we all have different ideas | Nov 08 02:51 |
| ThistleWeb | I;m not gonna waste my time arguing with a child who can't control their temper and resorts to accusations | Nov 08 02:52 |
| ThistleWeb | I could kinda understand it, if I was new here, hasn't he read my blog posts? at least some of them? does he not notice I used drupal as the platform? or that I'm not screencasting to spread the FOSS message and awareness? | Nov 08 02:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito yeah that's true, hollows not necessarily bad, take Nel & her friends for instance | Nov 08 02:54 | |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, I'm not sure if I've seen your blog | Nov 08 02:54 |
| cubezzz | mine is here: http://cubexyz.blogspot.com | Nov 08 02:54 |
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| ThistleWeb | yet he still feels I'm somehow a "microsoft appologist" if I disagree with him on something he has an issue with | Nov 08 02:54 |
| cubezzz | I should make a web page with #techrights blogs sometime | Nov 08 02:54 |
| ThistleWeb | mine is thistleweb.co.uk | Nov 08 02:54 |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, yeah he can be bit harsh | Nov 08 02:55 |
| ThistleWeb | my screencasts have been the clips of the day for a few days | Nov 08 02:55 |
| ThistleWeb | my posts have been included in some of the news roundups roy does | Nov 08 02:55 |
| cubezzz | ah see I think I did see one of yours | Nov 08 02:55 |
| ThistleWeb | so yeah, throwing out names is just childish | Nov 08 02:55 |
| ThistleWeb | it's just saying "I'm not able to win the debate so I'll throw accusations about" | Nov 08 02:56 |
| ThistleWeb | regardless of whether there's any validity to them or not | Nov 08 02:56 |
| cubezzz | I find the UK guys are way more into FOSS than here in North America | Nov 08 02:56 |
| ThistleWeb | as I said, there was a time where I thought he could have a grown up discussion | Nov 08 02:56 |
| ThistleWeb | it appears not | Nov 08 02:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] First Look at RockMelt, a Browser Built For Facebook Freaks | Epicenter | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/2al73 | Nov 08 02:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: First Look at RockMelt, a Browser Built For Facebook Freaks | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 81.51 KB | Nov 08 02:57 |
| cubezzz | I think he just dislikes Nvidia strongly | Nov 08 02:57 |
| ThistleWeb | so fuck um | Nov 08 02:57 |
| ThistleWeb | that's fine | Nov 08 02:57 |
| *cubezzz shrugs :) | Nov 08 02:57 | |
| ThistleWeb | it's not the opinion, it's the way he chooses to derail a convo and hurl insults like a fucking child | Nov 08 02:58 |
| cubezzz | oh I understand your POV certainly | Nov 08 02:58 |
| ThistleWeb | what gets me, is that people use this channel as "proof" of their attacks on us | Nov 08 02:58 |
| ThistleWeb | they don't need to make stuff up when people like him are playing into their hands and GIVING them stuff to use against us | Nov 08 02:59 |
| ThistleWeb | "the techrights irc is full of angry geeks who just attack others with desenting opinion" | Nov 08 02:59 |
| ThistleWeb | he's giving them proof | Nov 08 02:59 |
| ThistleWeb | he plays into their hands | Nov 08 02:59 |
| ThistleWeb | it's the same argument against Ryan | Nov 08 03:00 |
| ThistleWeb | it's why it was better for the channel that Ryan wasn't allowed | Nov 08 03:00 |
| ThistleWeb | yes we can all have our moments of craziness, bad moods etc | Nov 08 03:00 |
| ThistleWeb | including me | Nov 08 03:00 |
| cubezzz | honestly, I felt a lot better when I was on Commodore regarding hardware | Nov 08 03:01 |
| cubezzz | but they are long gone now | Nov 08 03:01 |
| ThistleWeb | I was a tad harsh on ender in hindsight about the iceweasel issue, I reacted to his attitude, which is why I refused to let lefty try to restir the pot after it had died down | Nov 08 03:01 |
| ThistleWeb | I will be mentioning to schestowitz to check the logs tomorrow so he can decide if anything else should happen, given that we have an irc policy on trolling now | Nov 08 03:03 |
| cubezzz | oh? what is the policy? | Nov 08 03:03 |
| ThistleWeb | look on the wiki, trolling being cracked down on, even from regulars | Nov 08 03:03 |
| ThistleWeb | some have been warned for their actions | Nov 08 03:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] What I’ve Learned, By Skype’s Niklas Zennstrom | Epicenter | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/2al8o | Nov 08 03:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito: yeah too bad she is dead (the blond one). I also think Grimjaw and Uliquorra were good to some extent | Nov 08 03:04 | |
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| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, a few of the older IRC people don't even come in here any more | Nov 08 03:04 |
| ThistleWeb | I've left a few times, wondering why I bother due to some behavious | Nov 08 03:04 |
| ThistleWeb | behaviour | Nov 08 03:04 |
| ThistleWeb | I only came back because a policy was put in place, and was being acted on | Nov 08 03:05 |
| cubezzz | yeah I'll have to look into that | Nov 08 03:05 |
| ThistleWeb | without that, this place is nothing | Nov 08 03:05 |
| ThistleWeb | I have no time for favorites either | Nov 08 03:05 |
| cubezzz | I thought schestowitz was just too tolerant, if you can believe that | Nov 08 03:05 |
| ThistleWeb | for me, the rules apply to all equally | Nov 08 03:05 |
| ThistleWeb | if I step over the line, I expect to be punished the same as anyone else | Nov 08 03:06 |
| ThistleWeb | he is, that's part of the problem | Nov 08 03:06 |
| cubezzz | some guys were just arguing about _everything_, it was way over the top | Nov 08 03:06 |
| ThistleWeb | in fairness he does seem to be enforcing the policy, even if he does give some leeway before having to act, I know he doesn't want to act, he's a nice bloke | Nov 08 03:07 |
| ThistleWeb | at least he seems to be acting if it's needed | Nov 08 03:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Any Identicats out there used Jolicloud? If so how is it? !linux | Nov 08 03:07 | |
| ThistleWeb | which he wasn't before | Nov 08 03:07 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC got the boot though | Nov 08 03:07 |
| cubezzz | too many off-topic posts | Nov 08 03:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram my girl tried it. she thought it was ok | Nov 08 03:09 | |
| ThistleWeb | yep | Nov 08 03:09 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: such as? | Nov 08 03:09 |
| cubezzz | oh he'd go on about guns and stuff | Nov 08 03:09 |
| cubezzz | for hours :) | Nov 08 03:09 |
| cubezzz | not really tech related | Nov 08 03:10 |
| ThistleWeb | and this is the result of a troll outburst, the last hour or so has been about fuck-knuckle | Nov 08 03:11 |
| ThistleWeb | and whatever is stuck up his ass | Nov 08 03:11 |
| cubezzz | well Mincer has the green dot at the moment :) | Nov 08 03:12 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, is that like the talking stick? | Nov 08 03:13 |
| cubezzz | yeah, although I don't kick very often | Nov 08 03:13 |
| cubezzz | even when I have ops | Nov 08 03:13 |
| ThistleWeb | like a footballer with a blister on his toe | Nov 08 03:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | TV Tropes Self-Censoring Under Google Pressure http://ur1.ca/2albi | Nov 08 03:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Developers Story | FBI Watching Oracle-SAP Trial http://ur1.ca/2alc1 | Nov 08 03:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds: ah, that, unity, gnome shell, all really take sometime to get used to. But I bet once you are used to them it will be cool | Nov 08 03:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] kill all process that belongs to you | commandlinefu.com http://ur1.ca/2alcb | Nov 08 03:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito: hoping they would bring back Nel and Grimjow. :D | Nov 08 03:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] operation fix broken sleep schedule: success | Nov 08 03:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram i reckon so | Nov 08 03:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Dirpy Lets You Turn Your Favourite YouTube Videos Into MP3’s | Techi.com http://ur1.ca/2alei | Nov 08 03:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @mohanpram I did play with it briefly, but the whole OS is build on Prism instances "Twitter" is "Prism at twitter.com" etc; not impressed | Nov 08 03:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @mohanpram peppermintos is a similar setup, but not prism, and with lxde or icewm as a base | Nov 08 03:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @mohanpram the fact that jolicloud is based on ubuntu but doesn't list which makes it awkward to use PPAs or debs, hardy? intrepid? etc | Nov 08 03:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @thistleweb yeah that's what it started out as, but now it's done with HTML5 from what I hear | Nov 08 03:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @thistleweb hmm interesting, I think they want to do their own thing | Nov 08 03:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @mohanpram yeah I's a sorta prism idea but not prism | Nov 08 03:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] p2pnet news » Blog Archive » ‘Online Notorious Markets’ http://www.p2pnet.net/story/45385 | Nov 08 03:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @mohanpram for me, peppermint felt as slow as a regular gnome mint, despite being designed to be light and snappy lxde, it may just be me | Nov 08 03:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] p2pnet news » Blog Archive » New Zealand internet disconnect http://www.p2pnet.net/story/45409 | Nov 08 03:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I may have found a java applet I actaully like, the blip.tv desktop uploader, still hella slow though | Nov 08 03:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Technology News: Distros: Google Soups Up Apache With New Speed Module http://ur1.ca/2alj2 | Nov 08 03:52 | |
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| Ender2070 | awesome episode schestowitz | Nov 08 03:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] http://ur1.ca/29ud0 "Open Source" software depends on proprietary companies to exist according to Asay. ?forgetting where he works again? | Nov 08 04:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] working on a short fiction piece about renewal and epiphanies. | Nov 08 04:05 | |
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| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, this is just a suggestion but you may want to put the file sizes on your blog so people know how big they are | Nov 08 04:19 |
| ThistleWeb | true | Nov 08 04:19 |
| ThistleWeb | the embedded video in pause mode does show the length so it does give an idea but I get your point | Nov 08 04:20 |
| cubezzz | I should do the same, come to think of it | Nov 08 04:20 |
| cubezzz | just got a microphone stand the other day | Nov 08 04:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Eeek... !listening to Night&Day .... family stuff today, now i have to knuckle down & quick make my !NaNoWriMo wordcount | Nov 08 04:22 | |
| cubezzz | now I just need a new topic | Nov 08 04:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] EPIC challenges legality of body scanners http://ur1.ca/2alor | Nov 08 04:24 | |
| Ender2070 | at least on the fedora side I have a weekly newsletter I can use for content | Nov 08 04:35 |
| Ender2070 | plus other stuff out there | Nov 08 04:36 |
| Ender2070 | im probably going to do a weekly show | Nov 08 04:36 |
| ThistleWeb | listen to fedorauloaded? | Nov 08 05:09 |
| ThistleWeb | fedora reloaded even | Nov 08 05:09 |
| ThistleWeb | I think it's been a while since the last ep but it is still alive | Nov 08 05:10 |
| cubezzz | I'm listening to you at the moment :) | Nov 08 05:10 |
| *ThistleWeb is self concious now | Nov 08 05:10 | |
| cubezzz | I still get a bit of popping on my mic, but yours is totally clear | Nov 08 05:11 |
| ThistleWeb | I've had a few peeps tell me it's very quiet, it sounds ok to me, but I have turned the new ones up a touch | Nov 08 05:11 |
| cubezzz | the level seems fine to me | Nov 08 05:11 |
| ThistleWeb | I start to get hiss if I push it too far | Nov 08 05:12 |
| cubezzz | ah, right | Nov 08 05:12 |
| ThistleWeb | I also talk quite quiet too | Nov 08 05:12 |
| ThistleWeb | there's no mic boosting | Nov 08 05:13 |
| cubezzz | I do use the mic boost | Nov 08 05:13 |
| cubezzz | some sound boards aren't the greatest, I fear mine is kind of crappy | Nov 08 05:14 |
| ThistleWeb | it's unusual, but pulseaudio is my freind lol | Nov 08 05:14 |
| ThistleWeb | well, the mixer is | Nov 08 05:14 |
| cubezzz | did you program vi to print that tolkien quote? | Nov 08 05:14 |
| ThistleWeb | that was just chance | Nov 08 05:14 |
| ThistleWeb | I don't use vi | Nov 08 05:14 |
| ThistleWeb | I had to for that part in the MintNanny ep | Nov 08 05:15 |
| ThistleWeb | it threw me for a sec as the eyeballs noticed what the quote was | Nov 08 05:15 |
| cubezzz | damn, I thought you might be doing ascii animation next :) | Nov 08 05:15 |
| ThistleWeb | lol no | Nov 08 05:15 |
| ThistleWeb | I have a partition on my netbook only for screencasting | Nov 08 05:16 |
| ThistleWeb | I found an app in the repos that turns a jpg into asci | Nov 08 05:17 |
| ThistleWeb | or maybe a png, I cant remember | Nov 08 05:17 |
| ThistleWeb | I don't edit the screencasts either, what you see is one take from start to finish | Nov 08 05:18 |
| cubezzz | yeah editing is a pain | Nov 08 05:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Anyone local have a copy of Free Software, Free Society and/or Free Culture that I could give to Chomsky tomorrow? !fsf !gnu !lp !fc !sfc | Nov 08 05:19 | |
| ThistleWeb | although it can take me several attempts to get one I'm happy with, as short as possible but not rushed, and having covered everything | Nov 08 05:19 |
| ThistleWeb | I aim for between 10-20mins on most eps, or ideally shorter if it's a little subject | Nov 08 05:21 |
| ThistleWeb | a few eps have been close to 30mins recently :( | Nov 08 05:21 |
| ThistleWeb | but a packed 30mins | Nov 08 05:21 |
| cubezzz | yes, my 2nd one was about 28 mins | Nov 08 05:22 |
| ThistleWeb | anything that is over the 30min mark def gets a redo | Nov 08 05:22 |
| ThistleWeb | even 25min is too long for my tastes | Nov 08 05:22 |
| ThistleWeb | I try to not ramble, not take too many pauses, not to double up on info | Nov 08 05:23 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz should make a page just for blogs | Nov 08 05:23 |
| ThistleWeb | but then when you're on the 6th take, you cant remember what you covered in THIS take, and what was in a previous one | Nov 08 05:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Torture http://ur1.ca/2am1d | Nov 08 05:24 | |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, I work from point form notes | Nov 08 05:24 |
| cubezzz | then I don't sound like I'm reading a book | Nov 08 05:24 |
| ThistleWeb | I do have bullet points of notes too fotr the mor in depth stuff | Nov 08 05:24 |
| ThistleWeb | well, where there's background info required to understand something | Nov 08 05:25 |
| ThistleWeb | like how dns gets the IP and connects to the name etc | Nov 08 05:25 |
| ThistleWeb | I also try to keep it on a high level, aimed at new users to linux | Nov 08 05:25 |
| ThistleWeb | so peeps who have used linux for a while may not get much from my eps | Nov 08 05:26 |
| cubezzz | heh | Nov 08 05:26 |
| cubezzz | well it was new to me | Nov 08 05:26 |
| ThistleWeb | but it does help give confidence to windows users who think "hey actually I could do this linux thing" | Nov 08 05:26 |
| cubezzz | most of my family uses Linux now | Nov 08 05:27 |
| cubezzz | so yeah, for sure people can do it | Nov 08 05:27 |
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| ThistleWeb | I just got annoyed by people who CAN use linux, but have no confidence on a PC because of their expeirence with windows | Nov 08 05:28 |
| ThistleWeb | touch it and it crashes "oh it's my fault I musta done something" | Nov 08 05:28 |
| ThistleWeb | so yeah it's a kinda screencast version of goinglinux, or linuxreality | Nov 08 05:28 |
| ThistleWeb | sorta | Nov 08 05:29 |
| cubezzz | this grass roots stuff is great | Nov 08 05:29 |
| ThistleWeb | I'll be doing the same with drupal, drupal basics, to help people get over the confusing initial learning curve to give them confidence to try it | Nov 08 05:29 |
| ThistleWeb | as well as the smaller modules | Nov 08 05:29 |
| ThistleWeb | it's also why I intentionally try to do it in a calm way, family safe, and as neutral as I can | Nov 08 05:30 |
| ThistleWeb | so far all these eps are in gnome, I don't even use gnome | Nov 08 05:30 |
| ThistleWeb | normally | Nov 08 05:30 |
| ThistleWeb | I do have xfce eps planned though | Nov 08 05:31 |
| ThistleWeb | \o/ | Nov 08 05:31 |
| ThistleWeb | xfce in da hissy | Nov 08 05:31 |
| ThistleWeb | I try to avoid slang too as much as I can conciously, since most people who listen won't be scots | Nov 08 05:32 |
| ThistleWeb | I'll need to get round to asking people for translation .srt files to match, so peeps can watch with french subs, or spanish etc | Nov 08 05:32 |
| ThistleWeb | the point is to pass on knowledge after all | Nov 08 05:32 |
| ThistleWeb | even english subs lol | Nov 08 05:33 |
| ThistleWeb | If I can work out how, and have the time, one day I may try a scottish slang subs for one | Nov 08 05:34 |
| ThistleWeb | just for a laugh | Nov 08 05:34 |
| ThistleWeb | I know how to edit srt files but not actually create them | Nov 08 05:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The clocks turned back last night... the unintended consequence being an extra hour for those of us in !NaNoWriMo :D | Nov 08 05:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] short fiction done. blue pencil treatment begins. maybe tomorrow. should make it breathe a little | Nov 08 05:35 | |
| ThistleWeb | being a LOTR fan I'd love an Elvish srt version, or a Huttese for the star wars side | Nov 08 05:35 |
| ThistleWeb | "nah tootah moushka Mint Update" | Nov 08 05:36 |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, yeah I've been using *nix systems since 1986 | Nov 08 05:37 |
| cubezzz | so when I talk about alternative OSes or whatever, there's some history there | Nov 08 05:37 |
| ThistleWeb | I probs should try to learn to create an english srt, after that, it'd be easier for people to translate into different languages | Nov 08 05:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Too pooched to write more tonight...even Billie Holliday isn't helping. Better to sleep now and write when conscious. G'nite Identiverse | Nov 08 05:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The First Pre-Release Of Xfce 4.8 Has Arrived: While the GNOME developers are busy at work on GNOME 3.0 and the ... http://bit.ly/cOAtZy | Nov 08 05:42 | |
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| ThistleWeb | I do have an ep planned to explain the different DE's but I'll need to plan that one out, so I can do it as neutrally as possible | Nov 08 05:42 |
| ThistleWeb | not quite sure how I can do that yet | Nov 08 05:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @phoronix The First Pre-Release Of Xfce 4.8 Has Arrived: While the GNOME developers are busy at work on GNOME 3.0 and the ... http:// ... | Nov 08 05:47 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] UK Reviewing Copyright Laws http://bit.ly/bHRmp6 | Nov 08 05:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: The Information Super-Sewer: The Internet Is Hijacked By Corporate Interests http://bit.ly/cgtluR | Nov 08 06:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @OSOReu: Project Release: medical 1.0 RC1 http://tinyurl.com/3yvv8bx | Nov 08 06:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @profnoel: #Android 2.2 For #Samsung #Galaxy S is Now Available http://tuxi.ca/0t | Nov 08 06:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 for small things, yes. Cash sometimes. | Nov 08 06:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @cheezburgrmania @ojezap Microsoft's poorly thought out Win Phone 7 television advertising is confusing the heck out of average people | Nov 08 06:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @OSOReu: #OpenOffice.org in public authorities: #ODF #Plugfest presentations published http://tinyurl.com/2vzv3wx #ooo #egovt | Nov 08 06:12 | |
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| schestowitz | [05:23] <cubezzz> schestowitz should make a page just for blogs | Nov 08 06:13 |
| schestowitz | Like a plant? | Nov 08 06:13 |
| schestowitz | We thought about doing it in early 2009 | Nov 08 06:13 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, like a grass roots page I was thinking | Nov 08 06:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Meego versus #Android http://is.gd/gPgRk | Nov 08 06:14 | |
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| cubezzz | as opposed to corporate/company stuff | Nov 08 06:14 |
| schestowitz | I don't quite follow | Nov 08 06:14 |
| ThistleWeb | a planet? | Nov 08 06:14 |
| schestowitz | But I still read the log | Nov 08 06:14 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: one that syndicates blog | Nov 08 06:14 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: one that syndicates blogs | Nov 08 06:14 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | Nov 08 06:14 |
| schestowitz | Even Linux Outlaws has one now | Nov 08 06:14 |
| cubezzz | or even one page for IRC blogs ;0 | Nov 08 06:14 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: you may wanna have a looat about 2am for an hour or so | Nov 08 06:15 |
| ThistleWeb | look* | Nov 08 06:15 |
| schestowitz | Setting a planet is easy, getting people to subscribe isn't | Nov 08 06:15 |
| cubezzz | I was just thinking of a straight html page of links | Nov 08 06:15 |
| cubezzz | like a very small link right of News or something | Nov 08 06:17 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: yeah, we used to kick him in the early days when he was troll mode-only | Nov 08 06:19 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm guessing he went into troll mode since nobody was around to kick him | Nov 08 06:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Reverse graffiti http://ur1.ca/2amdp | Nov 08 06:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nickballard] Hackers Break Microsoft's Kinect Security http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/hackers-break-microsofts-kinect-security | Nov 08 06:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @htc_eu: Latest in Support - Application - HTC Sync 3.0 for HTC Desire HD, Desire Z Legend, Desire, Aria & Android http://bit.ly/aS2Bej | Nov 08 06:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Ardian Haxha: LibreOffice on Fedora: How to install Libreoffice on Fedora http://bit.ly/a2iueO | Nov 08 06:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] impressive power cut, woke to absolute darkness. It's back now obviously, but robbed of reason until higher b/w comms back. | Nov 08 06:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir I suspect the switch to the Riboon UI had more to do with ability to protect it with patents than any user benefit. | Nov 08 06:32 | |
| schestowitz | Hi Will_ | Nov 08 06:33 |
| Will_ | hi | Nov 08 06:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] The So-Called Death Of Desktop Linux - more fantastic technical analysis (Yes, I have hip waders) http://bit.ly/916YCC | Nov 08 06:34 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.gettyimages.se/detail/106564096/AFP | Nov 08 06:35 |
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| Ender2070 | hmmm | Nov 08 06:35 |
| Ender2070 | my site was linked on linux outlaws :D | Nov 08 06:35 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: Didn't realize until recently just how much the Microsoft attitudes can rub off on their customers. Case in point: A former Xbox exclusive game, part 2 of a trilogy, is coming to PS3 soon. The publisher can't release the first part due to agreements with MS. So they are putting an exclusive interactive comic in the PS3 release to cover the story of the first game. And there are plenty of Xbox fans up in arms and | Nov 08 06:36 |
| MinceR | so, madhatter is an anything-but-micro$oft guy? :> | Nov 08 06:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.good.is/post/upcycled-houses-built-from-old-shipping-containers-plastic-bottles-and-trash/page:1#slideshow_52005 | Nov 08 06:36 |
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| Will_ | schestowitz: .... the comic that only summarizes the game that the Xbots already have and that PS3 users probably won't ever see on their console. Some sense of entitlement, huh? | Nov 08 06:37 |
| schestowitz | Exclusives-everybody wins? :-) | Nov 08 06:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: pretty much | Nov 08 06:37 |
| MinceR | console games, everybody loses -- except the guys who sell the console and the licenses to it | Nov 08 06:37 |
| schestowitz | Ad the parents | Nov 08 06:38 |
| schestowitz | Aad the parents | Nov 08 06:38 |
| schestowitz | And the parents | Nov 08 06:38 |
| schestowitz | Ah, got there eventually | Nov 08 06:38 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[tracyrreed] Reasonably impressed with how much faster my iPhone 4 is over the 3. Now what should I do with my 3? | Nov 08 06:38 | |
| MinceR | and he repeats the "1%" lie | Nov 08 06:40 |
| schestowitz | Amnesty bins? | Nov 08 06:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: who does? | Nov 08 06:40 |
| schestowitz | http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/1488196524/how-i-use-banshee | Nov 08 06:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] News for Opendocument http://is.gd/gPiFN #ooo | Nov 08 06:40 | |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 08 06:40 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: madhatter | Nov 08 06:40 |
| schestowitz | -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] More on US intel activity in Stockholm http://www.nyhetskanalen.se/webb_tv?videoId=1.1894448 | Nov 08 06:42 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: where did he repeat it? | Nov 08 06:42 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: nice song on the techbytes #2 intro | Nov 08 06:43 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: in the linked article, where he quotes "stats" from wikipedia | Nov 08 06:43 |
| MinceR | what's funny about the banshee video? | Nov 08 06:44 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "In fact I’ve argued in the past, and provided documentation to back up my assertions, that Linux is probably above 10% market share on the desktop. But it doesn’t really matter for sake of my argument today." | Nov 08 06:45 |
| schestowitz | I see now | Nov 08 06:45 |
| schestowitz | But he shows WIkipedia (US) numbers | Nov 08 06:45 |
| schestowitz | I debunkd these | Nov 08 06:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft does treat its customers/users like drugs dealers, it doesn't just behave like a drug dealer. http://ur.ly/syrj | Nov 08 06:45 | |
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| schestowitz | WIkipedia is not an eevn sample of world population | Nov 08 06:45 |
| schestowitz | Will_: _goblin sorted it out | Nov 08 06:46 |
| schestowitz | Actually, the song we got via madhatter's friend | Nov 08 06:46 |
| schestowitz | Cause he's a recording engineer or something | Nov 08 06:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz it's more like pushers, they sell you the pros without telling you all the docs you create in it will get you addicted later | Nov 08 06:49 | |
| Ender2070 | the thing about markset share is that its the stupidiest comparison you can possibly make | Nov 08 06:50 |
| Ender2070 | wow thats a coincidence, typo, lol | Nov 08 06:50 |
| Ender2070 | anyways | Nov 08 06:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz it'd be nice to read that article but no matter #paywall #fail | Nov 08 06:50 | |
| Ender2070 | its terminology assumes you are trying to sell something for money | Nov 08 06:50 |
| Ender2070 | i've never purchased anything that would show up on the 'market share' statistic | Nov 08 06:51 |
| Will_ | It's just like a study that recently found that Windows Server was shipping on 70% of servers... thing is, that study only included servers that shipped with an operating system. It didn't include servers shipped with no OS preloaded, nor did it take into account servers that were changed into non-Windows machines. | Nov 08 06:52 |
| Ender2070 | ROFL | Nov 08 06:53 |
| Ender2070 | thats hilarious | Nov 08 06:53 |
| Ender2070 | trios college was pushing the 1% number too | Nov 08 06:53 |
| Ender2070 | even tried saying it was less secure because its open source | Nov 08 06:53 |
| Ender2070 | my buddys U of T professor shot that one down | Nov 08 06:54 |
| Ender2070 | 'security through obscurity' is not effective | Nov 08 06:54 |
| Ender2070 | infosec professor | Nov 08 06:54 |
| Will_ | @Ender2070 any college that doesn't "get" open source by now is one that I would have severe doubts about when it comes to its technology education. | Nov 08 06:54 |
| Ender2070 | this one has deals with microsoft and rim | Nov 08 06:55 |
| Will_ | Ender2070: So I guess its Comp Sci department is probably worthless? | Nov 08 06:55 |
| Ender2070 | i wasnt surprised that my teacher was reading balmer's playbook | Nov 08 06:55 |
| Ender2070 | it doesnt even have comp sci | Nov 08 06:56 |
| Will_ | figures | Nov 08 06:56 |
| Ender2070 | its a private career college | Nov 08 06:56 |
| Ender2070 | governments paying for it, otherwise i'd not be there | Nov 08 06:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Inside Microsoft’s War Room http://is.gd/gPjRs | Nov 08 06:57 | |
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| Ender2070 | even a lot of the students there hate linux | Nov 08 06:57 |
| Ender2070 | not because they have valid reasons | Nov 08 06:57 |
| Ender2070 | they just didnt like linux+ because they were used to being windows users | Nov 08 06:58 |
| Ender2070 | too different | Nov 08 06:58 |
| Will_ | Ender2070: Any serious comp sci class that I ever attended usually had a class composition of 50% Macs, 50% PCs running some flavor of Linux, 0% Windows. | Nov 08 06:58 |
| Ender2070 | U of T is all linux | Nov 08 06:58 |
| Ender2070 | trios is dell boxes with windows vista or win7, and vmware | Nov 08 06:59 |
| Ender2070 | i had one cool teacher and he quit | Nov 08 07:00 |
| Ender2070 | he was the one who let me put linux on my own hard drive, the dells use front loading drives that students insert their drives into | Nov 08 07:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The So-Called Death of Desktop Linux http://is.gd/gPk63 #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows | Nov 08 07:00 | |
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| Ender2070 | one more week and im done there :) | Nov 08 07:01 |
| Ender2070 | brb | Nov 08 07:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir I suspect the switch to the #Riboon UI had more to do with ability to protect it with #patents than any user benefit. #msoffice | Nov 08 07:02 | |
| Will_ | Well, I've yet to meet anyone that actually likes the Ribbon | Nov 08 07:02 |
| schestowitz | "Inside Microsoft’s War Room " | Nov 08 07:03 |
| schestowitz | War on customers | Nov 08 07:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] #google #chrome canary version > #chromium browser version. Binaries now, freedom and source later? http://ur1.ca/2ammb | Nov 08 07:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Community_Rel: ROM - Sombionix Obsidian - http://tinyurl.com/27fj72y #android | Nov 08 07:04 | |
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| Will_ | I played with it a bit. More than anything I found it very restricting. Big icons that take up too much screen space, and you have to constantly shift from tab to tab to do anything. And the whole thing is not customizable at all. Contrast that to OOo, where if I find myself doing a task often enough, I can bring it's button out to a toolbar or floating box. | Nov 08 07:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @antisoda: #Fedora 14 review http://ur1.ca/2am1h | Nov 08 07:05 | |
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| schestowitz | Will_: it's not GUI for grownups | Nov 08 07:06 |
| schestowitz | It's when you need big buttons for stuff | Nov 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | That's how Fisher Price would design a GUI | Nov 08 07:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Am I the only one who thinks the #Nokia N8 looks like something from the #Thunderbirds ? | Nov 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | And then they'll do like, "HEY! We got an idea..." | Nov 08 07:07 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: Windows XP is how Fisher Price would design a GUI. | Nov 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | "How about we take those many large buttons and group them under bits of text which we put in series at the top so that it doesn't take much space. When you click them, a list of text items with icons next to them will appear. Genius!" | Nov 08 07:08 |
| MinceR | mac OSuX is also how fisher price would design a gui | Nov 08 07:08 |
| schestowitz | It looks more like a kids bedroom | Nov 08 07:08 |
| schestowitz | With the trash can and alll | Nov 08 07:08 |
| schestowitz | And you have to zoom to tell them what's in it | Nov 08 07:09 |
| Will_ | MinceR: I never really got "kiddy" vibes from the OSX gui. "Candy" vibes maybe. | Nov 08 07:10 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: These "Death of Desktop Linux" articles that pop up from time to time are just as tiresome as the perennial "Year of the Linux Desktop" articles. | Nov 08 07:11 |
| MinceR | candy is primarily for kids, isn't it? | Nov 08 07:11 |
| ThistleWeb | candy helps keep dentists in work | Nov 08 07:12 |
| Will_ | MinceR: yes, it's close. But not quite at the playskool toys level. | Nov 08 07:12 |
| cubezzz | yeah I still eat it sometimes :) | Nov 08 07:12 |
| cubezzz | not candy GUI though | Nov 08 07:12 |
| Will_ | which is what the XP start bar always reminds me of | Nov 08 07:13 |
| cubezzz | XP what is that? | Nov 08 07:13 |
| cubezzz | :-) | Nov 08 07:13 |
| Will_ | cubezzz: XP --> the last half-decent OS put out by a certain proprietary software company. | Nov 08 07:14 |
| Will_ | ;) | Nov 08 07:14 |
| cubezzz | I've had a FOSS desktop for 7 years | Nov 08 07:16 |
| cubezzz | I do see the bloated OSes from time to time | Nov 08 07:16 |
| schestowitz | [07:11] <Will_> schestowitz: These "Death of Desktop Linux" articles that pop up from time to time are just as tiresome as the perennial "Year of the Linux Desktop" articles. | Nov 08 07:18 |
| schestowitz | IDG started it | Nov 08 07:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @q4td: “The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.” — W. M. Lewis #Q4TD #q http://j.mp/bWhsXL | Nov 08 07:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Saving #Identica and StatusNet? http://ur.ly/s8Gc | Nov 08 07:19 | |
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| schestowitz | the very idea of discussing the "death" of something | Nov 08 07:19 |
| schestowitz | THe author of the IDG piece mailed me a long message | Nov 08 07:19 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: As if anything open source could really "die". Proprietary stuff can die, though. | Nov 08 07:20 |
| ThistleWeb | if xp was open source windows 7 would be DOA | Nov 08 07:21 |
| ThistleWeb | foss lives as long as people want to use it and develop for it | Nov 08 07:22 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] back to Delhi now. | Nov 08 07:22 | |
| Will_ | ThistleWeb: probably. If XP were open source, people would just do whatever was needed to plug perfect binary compatibility for Windows programs into Linux, and that would be the end of Microsoft. | Nov 08 07:22 |
| ThistleWeb | it'd also be a LOT better than it is, a lot quicker if people could actually improve it | Nov 08 07:23 |
| Will_ | ThistleWeb: Microsoft doesn't want people to improve their software. They just want people to buy it. | Nov 08 07:23 |
| ThistleWeb | exactly | Nov 08 07:24 |
| schestowitz | Will_: and again and again | Nov 08 07:24 |
| ThistleWeb | it cant be allowed to be good, that removes the carrot to buy the new version | Nov 08 07:24 |
| ThistleWeb | it cant be too secure either for the same reason | Nov 08 07:24 |
| schestowitz | The WIndows Licence Song; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDlEXQaMBpk | Nov 08 07:25 |
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| Will_ | ThistleWeb: wasn't there some quote somewhere where a Microsoft person basically said that they only consider how to sell more copies of Windows, not how to move the industry forward? | Nov 08 07:25 |
| ThistleWeb | sounds about right | Nov 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | yeah, unless it's a fake one | Nov 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft looks at new ideas, they don't evaluate whether the idea will move the industry forward, they ask, 'how will it help us sell more copies of Windows?'" | Nov 08 07:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The harm done by alcohol http://ur1.ca/2amsp | Nov 08 07:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @psquid: "Nothing in the world is as fearsome as a bloody, battered opponent who will _never_ surrender." -- Gary Spence #q | Nov 08 07:25 | |
| schestowitz | The Seattle Weekly, (April 30, 1998) | Nov 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | Not sure you can find a Web version | Nov 08 07:26 |
| schestowitz | It's a quote from GAtes | Nov 08 07:26 |
| *ThistleWeb will have to add loadsa gates / ballmer / jobs etc quotes to my site | Nov 08 07:26 | |
| ThistleWeb | it just shows random quotes on each page, but all I had time to do was douglas adams ones to get it working | Nov 08 07:26 |
| schestowitz | I have this annoying issue... if plasma-desktop crashes and I restart it, how can I make the popups not be those ugly yellow ones permanently? | Nov 08 07:27 |
| schestowitz | It's like it's using generic gnome gui | Nov 08 07:28 |
| Will_ | Apple's not much better, but at least they do try new things....wait, what am I saying? Apple just takes things that libre software has had for years, packages it in a nice shiny layer of marketing, and claims it as "innovation", taking advantage of the fact that most people won't know about Linux. | Nov 08 07:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] for some reason I though "Saving Identica" was a geeks 2.0 crowdsourced remake of Saving Private Ryan | Nov 08 07:32 | |
| Will_ | btw, I really like the term "libre software". "Free software" for me has the unfortunate confusion of denotations with most people. They see "free" and they associate it with "freeware" and all the unflattering connotations that go with it, or they think "no cost" and stop there. | Nov 08 07:33 |
| schestowitz | Yes, in ENglish this happens | Nov 08 07:33 |
| schestowitz | Liberty Software would sound better | Nov 08 07:34 |
| schestowitz | But people are not accustomed to this term | Nov 08 07:34 |
| schestowitz | I think RMS regrets his orignal name | Nov 08 07:34 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: when you are explaining a concept that is unfortunately completely alien to most people, the less confusion in the language for them, the better. | Nov 08 07:34 |
| schestowitz | It would take too much effort to deviate from it now | Nov 08 07:34 |
| schestowitz | Buhn from FSF just as FaiF or "software freedom" now | Nov 08 07:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/gnome-3-to-get-a-new-font/ | Nov 08 07:35 |
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| schestowitz | ahh... gnome took over my kde session | Nov 08 07:36 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: which distro are you using? | Nov 08 07:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] goddamn blip.tv is taking it's time to upload to | Nov 08 07:37 | |
| schestowitz | Will_: right now kubuntu at home | Nov 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | Main machine anyway | Nov 08 07:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb yes, I resent the paper for it. They pretend it's free access till you link to it. Then friends are getting upset. | Nov 08 07:39 | |
| Will_ | schestowitz: I've found that the ubuntu family sometimes does weird things when you switch from one DE to another. I wish it were more seamless. | Nov 08 07:39 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's still a bit too much like ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop | Nov 08 07:40 |
| schestowitz | It's not | Nov 08 07:40 |
| schestowitz | But sometimes it feels like it | Nov 08 07:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera If the central place of newspapers in the Andrew Marr show looks old fashioned to me, I wonder what the younger generation... | Nov 08 07:40 | |
| schestowitz | Because those gnome-style popups, for example, should never exist | Nov 08 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Help !debian ☛ !linux ☛ by submitting application screenhots http://ur.ly/siji | Nov 08 07:41 |
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| Will_ | schestowitz: that's always the impression I've gotten. Even the name kinda implies it. Kubuntu. | Nov 08 07:42 |
| schestowitz | IS Fedora better in this regard? | Nov 08 07:42 |
| schestowitz | IS Fedora 14 better in this regard? | Nov 08 07:42 |
| schestowitz | Cause I might install it this week | Nov 08 07:42 |
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| Will_ | schestowitz: Can't say. Haven't used Fedora since FC 5. Maybe Mageia will eventually become another strong KDE distro? | Nov 08 07:43 |
| schestowitz | Canonical should not get too much power | Nov 08 07:44 |
| schestowitz | It becomes destructive now that they deviate with wayland and unity | Nov 08 07:44 |
| Will_ | Come to think of it, I guess if the Unity thing takes off, Fedora will probably become the de facto Gnome distro. | Nov 08 07:44 |
| schestowitz | It's fair enough, just not helpful to the health of GNU/Linux | Nov 08 07:44 |
| gnufreex | Did you guys hear? Balmer and Gates are selling stock! Microsoft is like Enron in 2001! http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/11/08/microsoft-gates-ballmer-sell-shrs/ | Nov 08 07:44 |
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| Will_ | schestowitz: if unity and wayland fail, there are still other distros out there, so it's not like it's going to set back Linux much, right? | Nov 08 07:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Downsides to fs capabilities & su/sudo - http://is.gd/gPnwN (fundamental problem is concept of Unix superuser) | Nov 08 07:45 | |
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| Will_ | schestowitz: and if it succeeds, couldn't that possibly give Linux the kind of push it would need to have a bigger presence in the desktop area? | Nov 08 07:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Did you guys hear? Ballmer and Gates are selling stock! Microsoft is like Enron in 2001!" -- @gnufreex | Nov 08 07:47 | |
| schestowitz | Will_: I'm not sure | Nov 08 07:47 |
| schestowitz | I read all of Phoronix' articles about Wayland | Nov 08 07:48 |
| schestowitz | But just briefly/glossing over | Nov 08 07:48 |
| schestowitz | And I don't know if it does x forwarding yet | Nov 08 07:48 |
| schestowitz | If not, I'll ensure my machine at work and at home are getting off Ubuntu | Nov 08 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Cause I need this feature in the future | Nov 08 07:48 |
| schestowitz | I can't just do work oer kio | Nov 08 07:48 |
| schestowitz | *over | Nov 08 07:48 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: I saw something about the possibility of running X under Wayland to handle the forwarding. | Nov 08 07:49 |
| schestowitz | [07:46] <Will_> schestowitz: and if it succeeds, couldn't that possibly give Linux the kind of push it would need to have a bigger presence in the desktop area? | Nov 08 07:49 |
| schestowitz | You mean the whole "Frame" last Mark talked about? | Nov 08 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Linux won't take over just by having more frames per second when you twist a desktop | Nov 08 07:49 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: I expect some kind of solution to handle X's networking to be a given, otherwise it would be kind of stupid. | Nov 08 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, let's hope | Nov 08 07:50 |
| schestowitz | SteveofLinux just picks what he likes from FOSS | Nov 08 07:50 |
| schestowitz | And then calls it Ubuntu feature | Nov 08 07:50 |
| schestowitz | So I fear Ubuntu will screw some projects that have important maintainers | Nov 08 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Look at GNOME | Nov 08 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Peters has quit | Nov 08 07:51 |
| gnufreex | Canonical is badly mismanaged company, and has no FLOSS ethics. | Nov 08 07:51 |
| schestowitz | Just shortly after the whole Unity thing... although she had surely negotiated with Mozilla before that | Nov 08 07:51 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: that's my worry actually | Nov 08 07:52 |
| schestowitz | They don't have people like Cox | Nov 08 07:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Trying to write a book review... Haven't done that in ages. | Nov 08 07:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] So you think your forum/blog is cool? Facebook just had the Queen of England sign up !!!! #wtf | Nov 08 07:52 | |
| schestowitz | They need more FS types employed there, IMHO | Nov 08 07:52 |
| schestowitz | To balance out the SteveofLinux | Nov 08 07:52 |
| gnufreex | Real FLOSS people steer clear from them. They tried to hire some ex-FSF employees. They avoided them and gone to work for Red Hat and such. | Nov 08 07:52 |
| schestowitz | They can't treat FOSS like a meat market | Nov 08 07:53 |
| schestowitz | Throwing what they've used up and moving on to shinier things that don't hold all the volunteer rigor | Nov 08 07:53 |
| schestowitz | Cause it turns off the volunteers | Nov 08 07:53 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/07/11/waugh-on-canonical/ | Nov 08 07:53 |
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| schestowitz | "Mark [Shuttleworth] showed this picture… and it was of a girl called Sabrina, or that’s the name that he gave her. And it was a very [?] tone, Vaseline on the lens kind of shot, and it was a… a very beautiful shot, but it was with a girl with her face turned away but her breasts perfectly visible. And he saying to everyone, ‘this is what I want the desktop to look like.’”" | Nov 08 07:53 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: I guess one thing that came to mind was that, assume Unity does well. Now Cannonical has a desktop environment that is totally under its control in terms of development. Now, that whole "too many distros/desktops to develop for" line that third parties sometimes give doesn't necessarily hold water, but now Ubuntu has one desktop with development guided by one company, so it's one target for the developers to hit. | Nov 08 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Matt Asay is not enough to put FS value | Nov 08 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Au contraire | Nov 08 07:54 |
| schestowitz | it's worse | Nov 08 07:54 |
| schestowitz | We call him Mac Asay sometimes cause he follows Apple more than SteveofLinux does | Nov 08 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Will_: but that's anothejr Android | Nov 08 07:55 |
| schestowitz | No X, no gnu (virtually none), GUI with their own (c).... | Nov 08 07:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Unless something else comes along, privacy risk or not, Facebook and Twitter are here to stay. | Nov 08 07:55 | |
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| gnufreex | Mac Asay is total disaster. Red his advices to open source companies, back when he worked at alfresco. | Nov 08 07:57 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: that's exactly what it is. But how much would that actually hurt the rest of Linux? On the flipside, some companies like Adobe, Quicken, etc. now lose most if not all of the arguments they might have had for not developing for Ubuntu. I don't want to see Linux as a whole hurt, but I don't think companies like that would have developed for stock Linux at the moment anyway, and even if Ubuntu turns into "Android for | Nov 08 07:58 |
| gnufreex | Alfresco is proprietary company in disguise, I have no idea why they are making community version open source. It misses the point anyways. | Nov 08 07:58 |
| schestowitz | alfresco annoy me now | Nov 08 07:58 |
| schestowitz | hey dumped (l)gplish things | Nov 08 07:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With #unity and #wayland Canonical seems determined (whether deliberately or not) to make a Linux it owns with (c), just like Google+Android | Nov 08 07:59 | |
| schestowitz | Relicensed as apache or something _IIRC_ | Nov 08 07:59 |
| schestowitz | And they are 'open' core now, i.e. proprietary | Nov 08 07:59 |
| gnufreex | They are in process of dumping everything that is LGLP and they don't own. | Nov 08 07:59 |
| schestowitz | The closing down of Ubuntu with copyrights is troubling | Nov 08 07:59 |
| schestowitz | But there is another angle to it | Nov 08 07:59 |
| Will_ | schestowitz: right, I had forgotten the copyright assignment thing.... kinda troubling... wasn't that was stunted OpenOffice so badly? | Nov 08 08:00 |
| schestowitz | Canonical has a different story to tell and that's fine | Nov 08 08:00 |
| gnufreex | Alfesco Dumped Hibernate (which is best ORM around) for iBatis which is new Apache project. | Nov 08 08:00 |
| gnufreex | Next is jBPM. | Nov 08 08:00 |
| gnufreex | Only because LGPL. | Nov 08 08:00 |
| schestowitz | Will_: yes, ooo too | Nov 08 08:00 |
| gnufreex | They are dumpingh jBPM for new project which they started with VMware (spring source) earlier this year. Totaly immature. ActivityBPM is name. | Nov 08 08:01 |
| gnufreex | Only because religious hatred for LGPL. | Nov 08 08:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Interesting, last night i started writing a book. Has always been an ambition. Not sure if i'd let you review it though :) | Nov 08 08:02 | |
| schestowitz | They used to be gpl | Nov 08 08:02 |
| schestowitz | Alfresco | Nov 08 08:02 |
| schestowitz | THen dual IIRC | Nov 08 08:02 |
| schestowitz | old name for 'open' core in a way | Nov 08 08:02 |
| schestowitz | Then lgpl | Nov 08 08:02 |
| schestowitz | When Asay started to badmouth gpl | Nov 08 08:03 |
| schestowitz | And stallman | Nov 08 08:03 |
| schestowitz | And then bragged about apache | Nov 08 08:03 |
| gnufreex | They hired bunch of people form Business Objects... | Nov 08 08:03 |
| schestowitz | At the time, back in the days, I wrote a lot abouti alfresco | Nov 08 08:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=schestowitz+alfresco&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Nov 08 08:03 |
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| schestowitz | In retrospect, I probably wasted my time | Nov 08 08:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Personally, I am concerned that !Ubuntu does to !GNU !Linux what #Alfresco does now by going proprietary ('open' core). @mjasay a factor? | Nov 08 08:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @phoronix The First Pre-Release Of Xfce 4.8 Has Arrived: While the GNOME developers are busy at work on GNOME 3.0 and the ... http:// ... | Nov 08 08:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RD @klang67: My photos from #fscons http://bit.ly/aHlk7Z | Nov 08 08:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] need to cure that insomnia. | Nov 08 08:04 | |
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| gnufreex | Totaly. | Nov 08 08:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh I've been writing a book for years... | Nov 08 08:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] xfce-4.8 pre1 changes: http://www.xfce.org/documentation/changelogs/4.8pre1 !linux !dreamlinux !crunchbang | Nov 08 08:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Really? Cool! I've had a lot of notes and ideas for a while, just decided to dive in. Is your book online? | Nov 08 08:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] for #fscons people who attended my talk, here are links to the two sites I mentioned (follows...) | Nov 08 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh Not really. It's also not really written yet... ;) | Nov 08 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Against Intellectual Monopoly - http://bit.ly/1VI5wg fantastic (free) ebook that explains why we don't need #copyright and #patents #fscons | Nov 08 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mjasay some weeks ago I defended Ubuntu/Canonical when it was criticised for (C) policy. Now with #unity and #wayland clarification needed? | Nov 08 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Techdirt - http://bit.ly/bCcpZs the best site for keeping up with business models based on #abundance, not #scarcity #fscons | Nov 08 08:10 | |
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| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Added the Robot theme (inspired by android) to !chromium http://ur1.ca/2af0o and the new !android theme to gmail | Nov 08 08:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: back to Delhi now. http://bit.ly/bHxYSo | Nov 08 08:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Is it in German? Otherwise i'd like to have a look when it's finished/available. | Nov 08 08:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Could Free Software Exist Without Copyright? - http://bit.ly/cHFd0R where Stallman explains how #freesw could exist without #copyright #rms | Nov 08 08:12 | |
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| cubezzz | new audio blog up: | Nov 08 08:12 |
| cubezzz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.com | Nov 08 08:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh English. If I ever get it to a usable stage, I'll put it online (CC licensed of course). | Nov 08 08:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody @techdirt covers a lot more than just that | Nov 08 08:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] at least there's #csi #miami to check out | Nov 08 08:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Cool. Look forward to it. | Nov 08 08:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh Thanks. Don't hold your breath, though. I already have no free time as it is.... ;) | Nov 08 08:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @karsten @glynmoody at #FSCONS: #ACTA kicks off the war on digital sharing | Nov 08 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @raphaelhertzog 5 reasons why a !Debian package is more than a simple file archive - http://bit.ly/a31DuD | Nov 08 08:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 5 reasons why a Debian package is more than a simple file archive | apt-get install debian-wizard .::. Size~: 41.42 KB | Nov 08 08:19 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Google Scares Aussie Banks http://bit.ly/bw0gp1 | Nov 08 08:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot News Story | Google Scares Aussie Banks .::. Size~: 49.75 KB | Nov 08 08:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @robmyers @reality This interview is hilarious, nice work! :) http://dinosaur-os.com/post/1507101140 | Nov 08 08:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FreeView InterView - Rob Myers .::. Size~: 15.85 KB | Nov 08 08:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @karsten moody at #FSCONS: #swpat cost US economy 4bn USD 1996-1999, added value of just 100 million USD. Just serve to secure incumbents | Nov 08 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh I understand completely, i'm looking at 6 months to a year to have something "readable". Just hope I can commit to it. | Nov 08 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Attitudes towards leprosy http://ur1.ca/2an5r | Nov 08 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Research, Research, And More Research - about the inaccuracies of reporting http://bit.ly/dvdXop | Nov 08 08:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Research, Research, And More Research .::. Size~: 106.52 KB | Nov 08 08:27 |
| MinceR | geekings | Nov 08 08:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @themadhatteron Research, Research, And More Research - about the inaccuracies of reporting http://bit.ly/dvdXop | Nov 08 08:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Research, Research, And More Research .::. Size~: 106.52 KB | Nov 08 08:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hot off the presses, a new screencast episode "Gnome Panel" http://bit.ly/c4uP7t !dps #gnome #linux | Nov 08 08:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gnome Panel | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 14.5 KB | Nov 08 08:32 |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] @glynmoody at #FSCONS: Copyright was invented to encourage learning. Was created in a world of scarcity. Today we live in creative abundance | Nov 08 08:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb celeb is "household name" ie someone you'd only expect to see or hear at a distance, tv, radio, stage etc | Nov 08 08:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner Stallman Subreddit: #Openoffice is better at #docx than #MSOffice? http://ur1.ca/2afo3 | Nov 08 08:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Openoffice.org is better at .docx than MS Office? : linux .::. Size~: 220.23 KB | Nov 08 08:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @schestowitz: RT @silner Stallman Subreddit: #Openoffice is better at #docx than #MSOffice? http://ur1.ca/2afo3 | Nov 08 08:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Openoffice.org is better at .docx than MS Office? : linux .::. Size~: 220.23 KB | Nov 08 08:42 |
| *Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) has joined #techrights | Nov 08 08:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @f4bs: RT @skarnio: Muito bom... RT @gbeiguelman Manuel Castells: "O poder tem medo da internet" http://icio.us/23b1dj | Nov 08 08:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NovaE - Manuel Castells: "O poder tem medo da internet" .::. Size~: 25.2 KB | Nov 08 08:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] 115 years since X-rays were invented. | Nov 08 08:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb Big Tobacco lobbyists fight display bans, surprise surprise - profits before health - [..]ADDICTS NOW!!! http://bit.ly/cwNy6i | Nov 08 08:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Big Tobacco and small traders unite to fight ban on cigarette displays | Business | The Observer .::. Size~: 135.27 KB | Nov 08 08:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mairin at the #gnome boston summit; very excited about the GNOME in 30 sec project http://ur1.ca/2agt2 the demo is awesome! | Nov 08 08:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GnomeMarketing/Gnome3In30Seconds - GNOME Live! .::. Size~: 30.82 KB | Nov 08 08:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] It's monday... :( | Nov 08 09:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] President Obama: offshoring fears are outdated, unwarranted http://ur.ly/shN7 "an old stereotype that ignores today’s reality..." | Nov 08 09:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: President Obama: offshoring fears are outdated, unwarranted .::. Size~: 111.18 KB | Nov 08 09:04 |
| schestowitz | glyn: "I am well aware of that: this is following some remarks I made yesterday during my talk" | Nov 08 09:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 "an old stereotype" that #war kills people, or that #torture is uncivilised. In other news, offshoring GOOD 4 the #US economy! | Nov 08 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Fuduntu - A Fedora remix for Laptops and Netbooks | tuxmachines.org http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/48885 | Nov 08 09:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fuduntu - A Fedora remix for Laptops and Netbooks | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 28.02 KB | Nov 08 09:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Google scares Aussie banks - Business - News http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-scares-aussie-banks-339307074.htm | Nov 08 09:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] W3C becomes official submitter to ISO [de] - http://bit.ly/dotipb not sure this is good: wouldn't it be better to ignore ISO after OOXML? | Nov 08 09:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google scares Aussie banks - Business - News .::. Size~: 99.8 KB | Nov 08 09:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: W3C wird offizieller ISO-Standard-Submitter « NEWS « Linux-Magazin Online .::. Size~: 32.9 KB | Nov 08 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #MeeGo Progress Report http://goo.gl/Rt0th | Nov 08 09:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Safe as Milk » Blog Archive » MeeGo Progress Report .::. Size~: 21.18 KB | Nov 08 09:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Having fun with identithing by @reality http://nourishedcloud.com/identithing | Nov 08 09:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Guy Van Sanden: Get the facts on #mono http://goo.gl/x4qrR | Nov 08 09:14 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Get the facts on mono | Guy Van Sanden's Home .::. Size~: 36.9 KB | Nov 08 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jelmer Vernooij: #Mumble and bluetooth http://goo.gl/n5NN4 | Nov 08 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RLUK and the Democratization of Knowledge - http://bit.ly/9zzrFz @petermurrayrust asks the hard questions; who will answer? #libraries | Nov 08 09:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mumble and bluetooth - Stationary Traveller .::. Size~: 41.28 KB | Nov 08 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - RLUK and the Democratization of Knowledge « petermrs blog .::. Size~: 21.34 KB | Nov 08 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Court Hearing On TiVo's Patent May Be Company's Last Stand - http://bit.ly/ahtYUA important issue of "design-arounds" #swpats #tivo | Nov 08 09:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Court Hearing On TiVos Patent May Be Companys Last Stand| paidContent .::. Size~: 31.02 KB | Nov 08 09:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Help! I need caffeine before I fall aslee... zzz... zzz... | Nov 08 09:20 | |
| *ThistleWeb has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | Nov 08 09:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 10 Amazing Android Photographs - http://on.mash.to/ct9bBw surprisingly good; wonder why mine never turn out like this #android #pix | Nov 08 09:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jim Campbell: #Xfce 4.8pre1 is released http://goo.gl/qnyny !xubuntu | Nov 08 09:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Xfce 4.8pre1 is released « notes from the mousepad .::. Size~: 19.69 KB | Nov 08 09:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jason D. Clinton: Browsers in !GNOME http://goo.gl/GQbBE | Nov 08 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @fcouchet: Mois du logiciel libre à #Limoges : j'interviens samedi 13/11 dans une conf avec Richard Stallman http://ur1.ca/2an6m | Nov 08 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Berlusconi distances himself http://ur1.ca/2ankn | Nov 08 09:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jason D. Clinton - Browsers in GNOME .::. Size~: 67.92 KB | Nov 08 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conférence à Limoges le 13 novembre 2010 - Mad's blog .::. Size~: 12.81 KB | Nov 08 09:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jason D. Clinton: Setting Goals for !GNOME http://goo.gl/KRNmJ | Nov 08 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @glynmoody: Against Intellectual Monopoly - http://bit.ly/1VI5wg (free) ebook that explains why we don't need #copyright and #patents | Nov 08 09:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jason D. Clinton - Setting Goals for GNOME .::. Size~: 69.89 KB | Nov 08 09:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Against Intellectual Monopoly .::. Size~: 9.69 KB | Nov 08 09:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Installed a !habari blog last night to start writing my book. Like the privacy settings, keeps everything non-public. | Nov 08 09:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @furtherfield: Download Furtherfield's Recent Broadcasts on Resonance FM. Art, Technology & Social Change - http://ur1.ca/2anlv | Nov 08 09:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Furtherfield on ResonanceFm .::. Size~: 64.45 KB | Nov 08 09:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Installed a !habari blog last night to start writing my book. Like the privacy settings, keeps everything non-public. | Nov 08 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Xfce 4.8 is scheduled for January. If everything goes well, it will be ready in time for !Xubuntu 11.04 http://goo.gl/qnyny | Nov 08 09:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Xfce 4.8pre1 is released « notes from the mousepad .::. Size~: 19.69 KB | Nov 08 09:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just posted my book review of "At the Mountains of Madness and Other Novels of Terror" by Lovecraft: http://ur1.ca/2anof | Nov 08 09:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Book Review: At the Mountains of Madness and Other Novels of Terror | Sixgun Productions .::. Size~: 14.33 KB | Nov 08 09:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @itea Új betűtípus a GNOME 3.0-hoz: Cantarell : http://1r.hu/kn !itea | Nov 08 09:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Preserving science: what data do we keep? What do we discard? - http://bit.ly/chFXdU keeping everything should be default #data #bigscience | Nov 08 09:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Preserving science: what data do we keep? What do we discard? .::. Size~: 35.81 KB | Nov 08 09:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] The government shouldn't hang on Google's every word http://is.gd/gPxhy #mustread !gnu !fsfe | Nov 08 09:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The government shouldn't hang on Google's every word | Charles Arthur | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 242.14 KB | Nov 08 09:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @seeds U.S. Mobile Data Traffic To Top 1 Exabyte : Tech News « http://ur1.ca/2ai5r | Nov 08 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Meet RockMelt, the Social Savvy Browser - http://bit.ly/97VmbW based on BSD'd Chromium; but maybe not #opensource: anyone know? | Nov 08 09:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: U.S. Mobile Data Traffic To Top 1 Exabyte : Tech News « .::. Size~: 53 KB | Nov 08 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: RockMelt blog, World, Meet RockMelt .::. Size~: 88.15 KB | Nov 08 09:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson, FS developer and community builder from Iceland, received the Nordic Free Software Award http://link.fsfe.org/BZPYVT | Nov 08 09:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Icelandic developer receives Nordic Free Software Award .::. Size~: 5.94 KB | Nov 08 09:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @reality: New blog post: FreeView InterView: Mike Linksvayer - http://bit.ly/bunxHZ | Nov 08 09:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FreeView InterView - Mike Linksvayer .::. Size~: 13.22 KB | Nov 08 09:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Russia and Georgia: the Circassian question - http://bit.ly/cBE0II another people seeking justice #circassia #russia | Nov 08 10:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Russia and Georgia: the Circassian question | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 62.89 KB | Nov 08 10:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] RT @fsfe Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson, FS developer and community builder from Iceland, received the Nordic Free Software Award http://link.fs ... | Nov 08 10:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Telstra violating open source licence, claims developer - http://bit.ly/dpUTVh more wrist-slapping required #gpl #licensing | Nov 08 10:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Delimiter Telstra violating open source licence, claims developer .::. Size~: 71.96 KB | Nov 08 10:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to mount Google Docs as an external drive in nautilus | !Ubuntu Geek http://ow.ly/35Zok | Nov 08 10:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why High-Speed Traders Should Set up Shop in Siberia - http://bit.ly/bTNltw yeah, let's make the financial system even more unstable | Nov 08 10:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to mount Google Docs as an external drive in nautilus | Ubuntu Geek .::. Size~: 35.27 KB | Nov 08 10:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why High-Speed Traders Should Set up Shop in Siberia | Fast Company .::. Size~: 36.68 KB | Nov 08 10:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Legacy of OpenOffice.org - http://bit.ly/cjHZTi useful roundup of spinoffs #openoffice | Nov 08 10:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 5 reasons why a Debian package is more than a simple file archive | apt-get install debian-wizard http://ping.fm/2cKSX | Nov 08 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MeeGo Progress Report • by Dave Neary http://ping.fm/OatNR | Nov 08 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Compiler Benchmarks Of GCC, LLVM-GCC, DragonEgg, Clang: LLVM 2.8 was released last month with the Clang compiler... http://bit.ly/97QTJT | Nov 08 10:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 5 reasons why a Debian package is more than a simple file archive | apt-get install debian-wizard .::. Size~: 44.5 KB | Nov 08 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Safe as Milk » Blog Archive » MeeGo Progress Report .::. Size~: 21.19 KB | Nov 08 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Compiler Benchmarks Of GCC, LLVM-GCC, DragonEgg, Clang .::. Size~: 26.53 KB | Nov 08 10:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wikileaks Mutineers Create Rival Organization - http://rww.to/amkbHh redundancy is good #wikileaks | Nov 08 10:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Sham election http://ur1.ca/2ao2z | Nov 08 10:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Display Multiple Folders Content In One Directory With Nautilus Easy Union http://bit.ly/aUmeqp | Nov 08 10:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last 2 Weeks Top Posts (Weeks 43, 44 - 2010) http://bit.ly/9m2raf | Nov 08 10:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Display Multiple Folders Content In One Directory With Nautilus Easy Union ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.19 KB | Nov 08 10:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Last 2 Weeks Top Posts (Weeks 43, 44 - 2010) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 64.62 KB | Nov 08 10:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Telstra promises GPL fix, if necessary - http://bit.ly/8Z7Ygo which is good (via @codepope) #gpl #licensing | Nov 08 10:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Delimiter Telstra promises GPL fix, if necessary .::. Size~: 60.8 KB | Nov 08 10:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Shareholder Disappointed by Vista Phony 7, Which Fails to Sell; Office 2010 Used Only by 4% of Office Users http://ur.ly/spks | Nov 08 10:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Shareholder Disappointed by Vista Phony 7 [sic], Which Fails to Sell; Office 2010 Used Only by 4% of Office Users | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.14 KB | Nov 08 10:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tom Lubbock: a memoir of living with a brain tumour - http://bit.ly/aoze4Q "a permanent mystery how we summon up a word"; moving stuff | Nov 08 10:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tom Lubbock: a memoir of living with a brain tumour | Books | The Observer .::. Size~: 109.42 KB | Nov 08 10:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Feedly mini is pretty good. I think I will like it. | Nov 08 10:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Mobile Data Traffic To Top 1 Exabyte - http://bit.ly/aDNjKI in a few years' time, we will snigger at that headline #mobile #yottabyte | Nov 08 10:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: U.S. Mobile Data Traffic To Top 1 Exabyte : Tech News « .::. Size~: 52.87 KB | Nov 08 10:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Trying to print from !vim with this plugin http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=512 Hopefully can edit vimrc and get it working. | Nov 08 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPAA Lists Major Torrent, Usenet and Hosting Sites In Submission To U.S. Government - http://bit.ly/aecPJZ net #censorship next? | Nov 08 10:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Printer Dialog - set print options via dialog : vim online .::. Size~: 11.4 KB | Nov 08 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MPAA Lists Major Torrent, Usenet and Hosting Sites In Submission To U.S. Government | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 87.03 KB | Nov 08 10:50 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Bloglines Shutdown Avoided http://bit.ly/9mqq03 | Nov 08 10:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Technology Story | Bloglines Shutdown Avoided .::. Size~: 47.82 KB | Nov 08 10:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USPTO Decides To Lower Obviousness Standards - http://bit.ly/alkSWU what a relief - those high standards were becoming a problem #patents | Nov 08 10:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | USPTO Decides To Lower Obviousness Standards .::. Size~: 149.74 KB | Nov 08 10:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 5 Torrent Files That Broke Mind Boggling Records - http://bit.ly/9IrD5N interesting #Torrent #stats | Nov 08 10:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Cancel that. "lp + document" works fine from terminal. Gotta love Cupsd and networked servers :) | Nov 08 10:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 5 Torrent Files That Broke Mind Boggling Records | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 55.48 KB | Nov 08 10:59 |
| *phurl is now known as lruhp | Nov 08 10:59 | |
| *lruhp is now known as phurl | Nov 08 10:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Why the app-addled WiredUK's desperate love for News Corp's inflated Times Online figures is #fail - http://dlvr.it/8BrF9 | Nov 08 11:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PM - The Guardian and The Web 05/11/2010 .::. Size~: 31.33 KB | Nov 08 11:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Apparently Pulp are reforming. #itstheendtimespeople | Nov 08 11:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ”Microsoft is Like Enron in 2001!“http://ur.ly/suhl | Nov 08 11:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ”Microsoft is Like Enron in 2001!“ | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.96 KB | Nov 08 11:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The government shouldn't hang on Google's every word - http://bit.ly/coyIw5 absolutely spot-on piece from @charlesarthur #swpats | Nov 08 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Nice article about ms anti-piracy efforts on IHT featuring Eben Moglen and Jim Zemlin pag. 15 | Nov 08 11:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The government shouldn't hang on Google's every word | Charles Arthur | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 241.19 KB | Nov 08 11:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Security or student politics - http://bit.ly/doSqgK seems some in Labour have learned nothing #liberty #security | Nov 08 11:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Statesman - Security or student politics .::. Size~: 38.06 KB | Nov 08 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Linux-2.6.36-libre: volviendo en Software Libre el Cebo Libre de Linux http://ur1.ca/2aof1 !linuxlibre !fsfla !gnues !softwarelibre | Nov 08 11:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Linux-2.6.36-libre: tornando Software Livre a Isca Livre do Linux http://ur1.ca/2aof1 !linuxlibre !fsfla !softwarelivre | Nov 08 11:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software .::. Size~: 20.49 KB | Nov 08 11:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software http://ur1.ca/2aof1 !linuxlibre !fsfla !fs !gnu !lp | Nov 08 11:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software .::. Size~: 20.49 KB | Nov 08 11:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] why Linux and most GNU+Linux distros are Free Bait (Open Core), and how to fix them http://ur1.ca/2aof1 !linuxlibre !fsfla !gnu !lp !fs | Nov 08 11:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software .::. Size~: 20.49 KB | Nov 08 11:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Help Indonesia's political prisoners http://ur1.ca/2aogo | Nov 08 11:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @arnebab Yeah, they deserve to be punished for stealing !Linux ideas and selling them! | Nov 08 11:29 | |
| *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights | Nov 08 11:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Security or student politics - http://bit.ly/doSqgK seems some in Labour have learned nothing #liberty #security | Nov 08 11:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Should we have fair use in the UK? - http://bit.ly/bkmc9l excellent, detailed analysis #fairuse #fairdealing | Nov 08 11:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @lxoliva: why Linux and most GNU+Linux distros are Free Bait (Open Core), and how to fix them http://ur1.ca/2aof1 | Nov 08 11:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another #Microsoft Product Seemingly Dies: Bing Maps 3-D http://ur.ly/s8qu | Nov 08 11:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So far I've found 57 #Microsoft projects that Microsoft killed since 2008 http://ur.ly/rHBG | Nov 08 11:37 | |
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| oiaohm | Reallly people need to read carefully with libre removes. http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/LATEST-2.6.36.0/linux-2.6.36-libre.log | Nov 08 11:37 |
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| oiaohm | So called libre Linux kernel should be called unstable Linux kernel due to crimpling cpu patching. | Nov 08 11:38 |
| oiaohm | Also all the DRM_RADEON are in atombios standard. So fully decodeable. Infact redhat has submited patches to some of those firmwares. | Nov 08 11:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Sitting through the ISO/IEC JTC1 plenary in Belfast. I am wondering if these events can be done better? | Nov 08 11:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] The poor will soon be outside the rule of law in the UK - http://is.gd/gPGDF | Nov 08 11:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Government cuts will put legal action out of reach of the poor | Nick Cohen | Comment is free | The Observer .::. Size~: 246.73 KB | Nov 08 11:44 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Oh Look, More Cord Cutters: Time Warner Cable Loses 155,000 TV Subscribers http://dlvr.it/8C4xT | Nov 08 11:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @thornet: #CC's cameo in Apple's iPad is Electric video at 0:06min. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8-nKo2hqlg | Nov 08 11:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Impressed by balanced response to #BigSociety at #nwcan - cautious to whole-hearted optimism balanced with valid concerns | Nov 08 12:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] "Lowest levels of volunteering from households with highest incomes" #nwcan | Nov 08 12:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Draft sent to laser engraver - waiting for approval. | Nov 08 12:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 8/11/2010: #Userful Becomes Free Software, Vandalism Suspected Amid Postponed #LSE Move to !GNU !Linux http://ur.ly/sDT9 | Nov 08 12:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @gomerx BREAKING NEWS: Canonical abandons Linux kernel and replaces it with something @reality wrote in Python! "Linux just isn't pr ... | Nov 08 12:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !asterisk sip botnet ddos attacks. Apparently there was a lot of activity 31/10. One server had over 1600 hits !! 0.o http://ur1.ca/2aotc | Nov 08 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (PIJIP: Program on Information Justice and Intellectual Property) http://ur1.ca/2abuy | Nov 08 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Ouch! seems we can already pick up our car?!?!??? I am still busy with an exam for getting my license approved for use in China! | Nov 08 12:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man.... What a shitty weather at the moment.... :/ | Nov 08 12:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Compiz on #Wayland: http://goo.gl/kPFcX | Nov 08 12:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Compiz in a strange new land | smspillaz blog .::. Size~: 31.37 KB | Nov 08 12:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Copyright Reform; Who Will Benefit? http://bit.ly/c7wFvo [by me, on ComputerWorldUK] | Nov 08 12:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 379 released: http://goo.gl/LGXsw This Week's feature story: Trying on a new !Fedora | Nov 08 12:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh Seems to be uniformly bad too. I've not seen a good weather report from Europe | Nov 08 12:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I know you like reggae - do you like Prince Far I? Getting my vinyl out today :) | Nov 08 12:44 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] Linux kernel performance is as good as ever, benchmarks show: LinuxDevices: "Phoronix has published the results ... http://bit.ly/bTDdaV | Nov 08 12:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner I mostly listen to Bob Marley and stuff by Peter Tosh. | Nov 08 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I reallyreallyreally want to got to GLAM-WIKI... | Nov 08 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] The only problem would be getting to London for 9am Friday without breaking the bank | Nov 08 12:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to Slim Dusty's "Charleville" and remembering my visit to the place... | Nov 08 12:57 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] US Wants Upper Hand In Battling High-tech Bad Guys http://bit.ly/diZ4Gt | Nov 08 12:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot IT Story | US Wants Upper Hand In Battling High-tech Bad Guys .::. Size~: 47.53 KB | Nov 08 12:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @robmyers: Yeah it would be fifty quid for the train ticket :-/ | Nov 08 12:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open for innovation? Henry Chesbrough and Gary Hamel have tips to help your org prepare. Join our Nov. 11 webcast | http://bit.ly/b4b8rS | Nov 08 13:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What #Alfresco and #Android Can Teach Us About !Ubuntu http://ur.ly/sj5P | Nov 08 13:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Remmina to be Ubuntu’s new remote desktop app http://goo.gl/Q0kIz | Nov 08 13:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @coltem: Kernel Linux, libero e proprietario: http://blog.altertux.org/kernel-linux-libero-e-proprietario/ !linuxlibre | Nov 08 13:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Firefly theme coming up in shuffle making me smile... | Nov 08 13:14 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Houston Votes To Turn Off Red Light Cameras; City Officials Trying To Figure Out How To Cancel Contract http://dlvr.it/8CLCX | Nov 08 13:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Houston Votes To Turn Off Red Light Cameras; City Officials Trying To Figure Out How To Cancel Contract | Techdirt .::. Size~: 22.09 KB | Nov 08 13:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Next up @ #nwcan Hilary Wainwright, author of "Reclaim the State" http://www.tni.org/users/hilary-wainwright #BigSociety | Nov 08 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @coltem Kernel Linux, libero e proprietario: http://blog.altertux.org/kernel-linux-libero-e-proprietario/ !lpit !gnewsense !fluxbox | Nov 08 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @lxoliva why Linux and most GNU+Linux distros are Free Bait (Open Core), and how to fix them http://ur1.ca/2aof1 !linuxlibre !fsfla ! ... | Nov 08 13:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] "starting a community centre, campaigning for a zebra crossing - that's the entrepreneurship that we should be supporting..." #nwcan | Nov 08 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] NZ War Against Sharing http://ur1.ca/2ap68 | Nov 08 13:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] ♻ @jdaviescoates Cooperatives UK in negotiations on new accounting rules that undermine the dividend http://bit.ly/aIeuKG | Nov 08 13:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'll check in to IRC tonight again, this time under my beloved GNU/Linux :-) BBS is running on Dell Optiplex GX240 !techrights | Nov 08 13:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Co-operatives UK in negotiations on new accounting rules that undermine the dividend | Co-operatives UK Website .::. Size~: 39.22 KB | Nov 08 13:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !q Most people don't seem to understand this: "If something distracts from the narrative of the record, we're fucked." ~ Bruce Springsteen | Nov 08 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @raphaelh: Make Your Open Source Software GPL-Compatible. Or Else. (David A. Wheeler) http://ur1.ca/0q4kg #gpl | Nov 08 13:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wheeee! New GMail themes! Includes an Android-themed one.... :D | Nov 08 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Research, Research, and More Research Addendum - Update on the research issue. http://bit.ly/cYMBVk | Nov 08 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Ah, chair has mentioned we have a #hashtag at last :-) #nwcan | Nov 08 13:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @kojacker: Created a new #N900 app today- mFakeCaller, an incoming call spoofer! http://twitpic.com/34wlau | Nov 08 13:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @abhitux: "Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together." -- Carl Zwanzig | Nov 08 13:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] "Run a community Centre? You're subject to 1600 rules and regulations" Neil Smith, Cabinet Office #BigSociety #nwcan | Nov 08 13:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] RT @caulfieldr: 'No. 10 understand what they are getting into when they quote Alinsky and Freire' #nwcan | Nov 08 13:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] While compiz runs smoothly in my !fedora 13 laptop, gnome shell and mutter are jerky and slow. Wonder if they're faster in 14... | Nov 08 13:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @abhitux "Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together." -- Carl Zwanzig !q !quote | Nov 08 13:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: La educación es otro tipo de negocio http://ur1.ca/2ap7u < #gobierno #corrupto #demierda | Nov 08 13:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Yay! New Neural is here! (http://neural.it) | Nov 08 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Playing with sipvicious on our company !asterisk system. http://code.google.com/p/sipvicious/ | Nov 08 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Excellent Article: Mark Colvin's "The Guardian and The Web" http://ur1.ca/2ap9p ... why NOT to use a paywall ... brilliant & true | Nov 08 13:47 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Firesheep Countermeasure Tool BlackSheep http://bit.ly/c2KD9T | Nov 08 13:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've never seen a physical copy of The Guardian over here in rural Canada, but I'm more likely to read/link to it than The Globe and Mail | Nov 08 13:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "I won't not use no double negations" - Bart Simpson @ chalkboard !q #Simpsons | Nov 08 13:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "..suddenly [people] have publishing tools... surprise,surprise they like creating & they like connecting w/each other."~ Alan Rusbridger !q | Nov 08 13:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Situation in #Canada Shows Continued Colonisation http://ur.ly/sckm #swpats | Nov 08 13:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @tante Yeah it is somewhat old, but it made me chuckle: Linux Torvalds rips some C++-fan a new one http://is.gd/gPH6W | Nov 08 13:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: frei nach Helmut Qualtinger: "C gegen C++ - das nenn' ich Brutalität" :-)) - tante's soup .::. Size~: 20.31 KB | Nov 08 13:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Basically offline for the reminder of the week | Nov 08 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Making it easier to decentralize--BetterMeans is a new app for running your organization the open source way http://bit.ly/drv85K | Nov 08 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why The Book Business May Soon Be The Most Digital Of All Media Industries - http://bit.ly/9S2ZnV also most pirated, if prices stay high | Nov 08 14:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BetterMeans: a new app for running your organization the open source way | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.1 KB | Nov 08 14:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bad !Copyright law is bad 4 !Canada: rt@ schestowitz Patent Situation Shows Continued Colonisation http://ur1.ca/2apc3 !BillC32 #cdnpoli | Nov 08 14:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz @mjasay I believe Steve of Linux is trying to pull an "Android" on the community. | Nov 08 14:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody do you know if it is libre? | Nov 08 14:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Gov. Business plans published - http://bit.ly/aEjcwE "power shift in favour of increased Government accountability to public" #ogov | Nov 08 14:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @fraterneo “Video: !Ubuntu 10.10 + Wayland + Compiz”: http://ur1.ca/2ap86 !gnome !gnu !linux !floss !foss | Nov 08 14:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Doing research for tonight's !LO. | Nov 08 14:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core" http://lwn.net/Articles/413927/rss | Nov 08 14:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EC lobs grenades at copyright's Ancien Régime - http://bit.ly/dsH4OM "ratchets up the hostility towards the regional monopolies" #copyright | Nov 08 14:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK.... It's official. The FSFLA is nuts. Oo | Nov 08 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BPI making misleading claims - http://bit.ly/9LjUGC "A simple “yes” or “no” would be most helpful" #bpi #p2p #copyright | Nov 08 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh heh. ad hominem as a last resort? | Nov 08 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva Not really. That claim is so bullshitty that that's the only explanation to me. | Nov 08 14:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva Also: one can not be ad hominem to an organisation. By definition. | Nov 08 14:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ethics of intellectual monopolies - http://slidesha.re/aJMdwd my #fscons 2010 presentation on Slideshare, also downloadable | Nov 08 14:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh in what sense do you think Linux fails to fit the definition of Open Core, other than “I really don't want it to”? | Nov 08 14:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva The Linux kernel is not being developed by a company or group making money from it. Open Core is a business model. QED. | Nov 08 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh heh, you beat me to it. ad organizationem? won't make it an less of a logical fallacy | Nov 08 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva It's an assessment. It's either barefaced FUD or the deranged notions of a group of madmen. Pick your poison. | Nov 08 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The MeeGo Progress Report: A+ or D-? (Vision Mobile) http://lwn.net/Articles/413932/rss | Nov 08 14:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh Open Core is a licensing strategy that supports a business model. Linux is primarily developed by businesses making money from it. | Nov 08 14:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @lxoliva Open Core depends on giving spacial permissions to avoid the copyleft requirement, right? How does this apply? | Nov 08 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | Asay has responded to me just now: https://twitter.com/mjasay/status/1632104500695040 | Nov 08 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mjasay/status/1631984740732928 | Nov 08 14:30 |
| schestowitz | "I'm confused by this. What impact do you think I have on product strategy at Canonical? I suspect you rate my influence" [..] "far too highly. I had nothing to do with Unity, but support Mark in Unity" | Nov 08 14:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Newly-elected #UK Government Hopes to Imitate the United States With Software Patents http://ur.ly/syc2 #swpats #uspto #epo #ukipo | Nov 08 14:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @agentsmith I believe Steve of Linux is trying to pull an "Android" on the community. | Nov 08 14:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh I personally would ask them for an explanation. At least I know they aren't self-centered, anti-freedom cooperation. | Nov 08 14:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh it's Linux (and most GNU+Linux) *being* Open Core that's dangerous. just not as dangerous as going into denial about it. | Nov 08 14:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @osamak no, it doesn't. that's “selling exceptions”, a different licensing model | Nov 08 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mjasay I was thinking more about the business model. Can Canonical state clearly how it plans to make money long term? It would help. | Nov 08 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @osamak please read the links to the original definition and the clarification | Nov 08 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh the article also covers the Free Bait distros, that adopt the Free Bait kernel. want me to name who makes money out of them? | Nov 08 14:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Game theory explains why some content goes viral (Ars): http://bit.ly/9qjhvZ | Nov 08 14:35 | |
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| justinm | http://jaap.haitsma.org/2010/11/07/still-breaking-records-gnome-amazon-affiliate-fees-october-2010/ | Nov 08 14:40 |
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| justinm | looks like Banshee brings in more than half of the donations to GNOME | Nov 08 14:40 |
| ml2mst | Banshee is MONOware, nog go :-p | Nov 08 14:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh besides, Free Bait Licensing is not just about making money: the original definition mentions attracting developers as a benefit | Nov 08 14:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva You haven't answered my question. | Nov 08 14:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching Fairy Tail 53 !anime | Nov 08 14:42 | |
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| justinm | and yet, more money is coming in to GNOME because of it than any other app | Nov 08 14:42 |
| justinm | interesting | Nov 08 14:43 |
| justinm | I guess Mono people are just more generous than trolls like you guys, eh? ;-) | Nov 08 14:43 |
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| MinceR | yeah, even gate$ said that software development is all about the money | Nov 08 14:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh you want names? Linus himself, Red Hat, Canonical, Ubuntu, IBM, Intel, ARM, AMD, Google... the list goes on, won't fit in 140c | Nov 08 14:45 | |
| MinceR | the more money, the better the software gets...oh, wait | Nov 08 14:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva Linus makes money from the kernel via Open Core? How does that work? How does Canonical make money just from the kernel? | Nov 08 14:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh the Free Bait strategy attracted more developers, made for a larger community => more money, more business | Nov 08 14:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh who says Canonical makes money just from the kernel? the entire distro follows the Free Bait model, like Linux | Nov 08 14:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @JhonCooper: is enjoying #CiviCRM and can't believe how much people pay for other database systems stunning design and now very practical | Nov 08 14:50 | |
| ml2mst | Indeed, that blog is loaded with POS charts. Which "Open Sauce" obviously is about these days | Nov 08 14:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva You are evading the issue. Linus or anybody else is not selling proprietary licenses to the kernel so how is it Open Core? | Nov 08 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva You are not convincing me by making up terms and arguing around my points. The FUD in your arguments is reaching SCO levels... | Nov 08 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh @oddbloke you seem to have been victims of the confuse-to-defeat strategy that twisted the meaning of Open Core | Nov 08 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh @oddbloke please take the time to read the original definition and the clarification, instead of going by the twisted definitions | Nov 08 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva And you seem to be arbitrarily changing the meaning of terms to fit your agenda. And then claiming other people are confused. | Nov 08 14:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva Hmmm.... So if even LWN doesn't understand what you mean by a press release, maybe you should work on the wording. | Nov 08 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh “What is open core? According to Andrew’s original post it is a licensing strategy (cont)” -Aslett | Nov 08 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh “combines proprietary code with open source code, where “the commercial license is a super-set of the open source product...” -Aslett | Nov 08 14:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh “i.e., it offers premium product features that you will not see in the GPL license”.” -Aslett | Nov 08 14:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva There is no commercial license for the Linux kernel AFAIK. It's GPLv2 period. | Nov 08 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☞ Challenging Intrusion: EPIC – EPIC v. DHS (Suspension of Body Scanner Program) EPIC (the Electronic Privacy I... http://bit.ly/9PPM4l | Nov 08 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh AFAICT LWN understood it just fine. Linux is indeed Open Core | Nov 08 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh commercial is a term very often (including in this case) misused to refer to the opposite of open source | Nov 08 14:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh Linux is GPLv2 except where it isn't, as in the mentioned blobs and a bunch of others. distros are Free except where they aren't. | Nov 08 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @thp4: #MaePad 1.8 enters #Maemo Extras today. New features: Search (with "/") in memo list. Fixed paste and insert in checklists | Nov 08 15:02 | |
| schestowitz | [14:40] <justinm> looks like Banshee brings in more than half of the donations to GNOME | Nov 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | GNOME is based on sponsorships | Nov 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | THis referral thing brings in peanuts | Nov 08 15:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh oh, and GPLv2 is as much of a commercial license as a non-commercial one. Free vs non-Free is orthogonal to commercial vs gratis | Nov 08 15:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh Linux and GNU/Linux distros are offered commercially all the time, you know | Nov 08 15:04 | |
| MinceR | yum, peanuts | Nov 08 15:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Out of three #FSF branches, @fsfe is the only one that doesn't seem nut… I know I'll be refreshing my fellowship soon. | Nov 08 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz I don't, I'm afraid. I doubt it, but it's still worth downloading and reading. | Nov 08 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Doing a talk today at noon on sexual selection and aging !unc !biology | Nov 08 15:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Ballmer sells $1.3 billion of #Microsoft #stock. Does he know something we don't? http://is.gd/gPWVz | Nov 08 15:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] What Are Vectors, and How Are They Used?: (Scientific American): http://bit.ly/9Ra7x0 | Nov 08 15:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @tante Yeah it is somewhat old, but it made me chuckle: Linux Torvalds rips some C++-fan a new one http://is.gd/gPH6W | Nov 08 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @agentsmith That too. Shame on microsoracle. | Nov 08 15:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] rd @tante Yeah it is somewhat old, but it made me chuckle: Linux Torvalds rips some C++-fan a new one http://is.gd/gPH6W | Nov 08 15:15 | |
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| schestowitz | [14:45] <MinceR> the more money, the better the software gets...oh, wait | Nov 08 15:16 |
| schestowitz | The richer the person, the smarter s/he must be :-) | Nov 08 15:16 |
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| MinceR | that too | Nov 08 15:16 |
| schestowitz | People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw chairs | Nov 08 15:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] For clarity, I was not consulted about the use of a quotation of mine by FSFLA in their press release. | Nov 08 15:17 | |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz We have.Many times.We make a lot of $ (much more than ppl imagine) on desktop support w/ big OEMs, plus server supp/etc." https://twitter.com/mjasay/status/1648875622367233 | Nov 08 15:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Continues to Exploit Broken #USPTO and Collect Even More Software Patents http://ur.ly/sjmb #swpats | Nov 08 15:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mjasay that's excellent. I'm glad to hear it. | Nov 08 15:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Good reason to stop using #CRAP - "Chasing Pirates": Inside Microsoft’s War Room http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/technology/07piracy.html | Nov 08 15:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink err, should we have consulted you? | Nov 08 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Given you lead with my quotation, implying endorsement of your news, yes. I might even have been happy about it if you'd asked. | Nov 08 15:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink now, for the record and for further clarity, do you agree with the logical consequences of your widely published words? ;-) | Nov 08 15:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Fake democracy in Burma) http://ur1.ca/2apy9 | Nov 08 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva I continue to believe open core is bait-and-switch. I have no view on the accuracy of your characterisation of Linux as open core. | Nov 08 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink the endorsement actually was from us to you! | Nov 08 15:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Novell Continues to Exploit Broken #USPTO and Collect Even More Software Patents http://ur.ly/sjmb #swpats | Nov 08 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson, FS developer and community builder from Iceland, received the Nordic Free Software Award http://link.fsfe.org/BZPYVT | Nov 08 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @smokku: See http://codex.xiaoka.com/wiki/streak:meego for #MeeGo image for #DellStreak with working X11 and touchscreen. | Nov 08 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Oliver, certainly, yes. The structure of the whole release is unfortunate, actually. | Nov 08 15:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EuroDroid: Android 2.3 arriving on development Nexus Ones "para los proximos dias" - http://bit.ly/9Iy4U0 | Nov 08 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Seriously local news is just load of crap and useless! | Nov 08 15:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Best way to battle botnets: before or after the infection? http://ur1.ca/2aq1e | Nov 08 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://ur1.ca/2aq1r - 7 rules for productizing startup ideas. Good inspiration! // Slideshow by @kodel #slideshare | Nov 08 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: RT @silner Stallman Subreddit: #Openoffice is better at #docx than #MSOffice? http://ur1.ca/2afo3 | Nov 08 15:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EuroDroid: HTC Sync update to version 3.0.5481 - new Contacts & Calendar options - http://bit.ly/ccgqIW | Nov 08 15:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva While logically sound as an essay, as a press release it can easily be misread by journalists because of its structure. | Nov 08 15:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva In press releases quotations are usually seen to imply premeditation and endorsement. | Nov 08 15:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Saving #Identica and StatusNet? http://ur.ly/s8Gc | Nov 08 15:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @magicfab: @jargon I just use ffmpeg2theora, it takes care of the details. #linux #debian !ubuntu #theora | Nov 08 15:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Sabayon 5.4 E17 review — LinuxBSDos.com http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2010/11/05/sabayon-5-4-e17-review/ | Nov 08 15:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #iPhone vs. #Android vs. #BlackBerry http://is.gd/gQ0XP #comics | Nov 08 15:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Build a Killer Customized Arch Linux Installation (and Learn All About Linux in the Process) http://ur1.ca/29f06 | Nov 08 15:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Wow, the new Do launcher will look awesome: http://goo.gl/zffMe | Nov 08 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: Nautilus-Elementary is dead, long live ‘Marlin’ http://goo.gl/78bxm | Nov 08 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Tale of Two Conferences - http://bit.ly/dtkL4Y my talks in Berlin and Gothenburg (embedded), and a key difference of the contexts | Nov 08 15:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] This is my 4444th identica notice | Nov 08 15:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Why your desktop still matters - Linux Magazine Online http://ur1.ca/2aq8o | Nov 08 16:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Apple kills XServe.... Wow, they finally wisened up.... | Nov 08 16:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "We had to work hard to get away from Windows. Really hard. And Windows was SO BAD that we did it."~Wayne Borean !q http://ur1.ca/2aq8r !lp | Nov 08 16:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Linux News: Community: Tales From the Linux Dark Side http://ur1.ca/2aq9d | Nov 08 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @webmink do we need two defined subsets of open core? one where non-libre is gratis and one where it is non-gratis? @lxoliva | Nov 08 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference: RT @rsuplido: Here's the full #MeeGo Conference schedule in .ics format: http://bit.ly/aq5t0k Thanks @ju_key! | Nov 08 16:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @zotz No. Open Core defines a business model, not shades of grey in a Libre philosophy. | Nov 08 16:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @webmink: Open Core defines a business model, not shades of grey in a Libre philosophy. | Nov 08 16:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Gspace - Convert Gmail account to an Online Storage | Ubuntu Geek http://ur1.ca/2aqac | Nov 08 16:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Woke up early feeling refreshed and ready for a good day. If only one would come :| | Nov 08 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] It wouldn't be quite so bad if I didn't know I was walking in to a shitstorm for cse101 today | Nov 08 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Nexus One Getting Gingerbread In “A Few Days” http://ur1.ca/2aqbi | Nov 08 16:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva: In a press release you can cite yourself quoting someone but, in principle, you should get an 'ok go' from people directly quoted. | Nov 08 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ah...I got an "You broke reddit!" Error...LOL, nice 404 message! | Nov 08 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds: I liked that article, and it does have some good points | Nov 08 16:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @fabsh: LOL, only took them like a decade! | Nov 08 16:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @webmink @zotz No. Open Core defines a business model, not shades of grey in a Libre philosophy. | Nov 08 16:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Study Shows Newspapers Don't Have to Sue to get Pirated Content Removed - http://rww.to/9lPJy1 well, gosh #piracy #newspapers | Nov 08 16:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Testing @thp's fix... | Nov 08 16:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Seems to work. :) | Nov 08 16:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] HK Jockey Club choose Suse http://is.gd/gQ3Hh !linux #suse #novell | Nov 08 16:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Howdy peeps, how goes it today? | Nov 08 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Gooooooo Science! http://ur1.ca/2aqha !bio !science | Nov 08 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft is Stockpiling and Also Buying More Patents While Microsoft's 'Buddy' #Finjan Extorts #McAfee With #swpats http://ur.ly/sh1h | Nov 08 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More Stansted shenanigans: bodyscanned 7 year old now afraid to fly - http://bit.ly/bXjWNi is this really the world we want? #security #uk | Nov 08 16:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram yea it does | Nov 08 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] SMS Polling, projecting, intro movies and logo displays all from the laptop. I'm glad !ubuntu has multiple workspaces. | Nov 08 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @PeterPetrik: Vote for #drupalatx sessions - learn about #civicrm and #drupal on Nov 20-21 http://bit.ly/au1a6A | Nov 08 16:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Devil's dollars drive open source - http://bit.ly/aIsx3r exactly why we need free software foundations #freesw | Nov 08 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] is it ok to kill one person to save 5? | Nov 08 16:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] also drinking chinese #oolong tea | Nov 08 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @glynmoody More Foundations would solve nothing beyond pushing the evidence of control into back-rooms. | Nov 08 16:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Web browser pioneer backs new way to surf Net http://ur1.ca/2aql8 | Nov 08 16:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] South Korean woman guilty of possessing *music* from North Korea [de] - http://bit.ly/diGeyo what a crime #korea #thoughtcrimes | Nov 08 16:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @glynmoody South Korean woman guilty of possessing *music* from North Korea [de] - http://bit.ly/diGeyo what a crime #korea #thoughtc ... | Nov 08 16:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @JamesFiers No, #war only 'kills' ISAF soldiers or civilians killed by #Taliban. Everyone else 'tragically dies' or 'eliminated' | Nov 08 16:52 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: see next link | Nov 08 16:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK.gov plans net surveillance by 2015 - http://bit.ly/c3DOM0 sounds reassuringly confused #surveillance | Nov 08 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @cheezburgrmania ... No line of Microsoft fanbois@ AT&T store clamoring for the new Windows phone. @ Store http://instagr.am/p/MR8S/ | Nov 08 16:54 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: ok. | Nov 08 16:54 |
| _Goblin | The Uk Gov one? | Nov 08 16:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @karlpro: just learned of the dot on the "i" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tittle appeared in 11th century. | Nov 08 16:57 | |
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| _Goblin | Yep...but I think this is not "more of" intrusiveness...its merely bringing "up to date with" existing. There is imo neither the resources or expertise for this to be of consequence to the "average joe" and I think this merely outlines new techs used/developed for those who would already be under observation. | Nov 08 16:57 |
| _Goblin | imho. | Nov 08 16:58 |
| _Goblin | oh and schestowitz Ive had some great feedback.....remember the first show when I talked about wanting an ultra-highlevel dev package for linux to bring a younger creative audience? Well it appears there is one and its damn good..... | Nov 08 16:59 |
| _Goblin | I'll be covering it shortly and I think its a great talking point for next show. The package is foss....great stuff. | Nov 08 17:01 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I meant this link: | Nov 08 17:02 |
| schestowitz | [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @cheezburgrmania ... No line of Microsoft fanbois@ AT&T store clamoring for the new Windows phone. @ Store http://instagr.am/p/MR8S/ | Nov 08 17:02 |
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| _Goblin | ah,,,, | Nov 08 17:02 |
| schestowitz | From Leo Laporte originally | Nov 08 17:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Finally soldering some wires to test pads on PCBs again. hardware hacking, yay! | Nov 08 17:02 | |
| schestowitz | I told ya | Nov 08 17:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Next Steering Committee Conference Call this Friday 1400 UTC: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Next_Call | Nov 08 17:02 | |
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| _Goblin | he's from TWIT isnt he? | Nov 08 17:02 |
| schestowitz | yes | Nov 08 17:02 |
| _Goblin | looking now | Nov 08 17:02 |
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| _Goblin | before I forget did you see Steven Fry lately? | Nov 08 17:03 |
| _Goblin | he made that video for the FSF.....then only three weeks ago was pimping WP7 | Nov 08 17:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @avaaz Tomorrow we launch EU corporate lobby petition. Europeans pls sign and RT to help reach 50000—we're so close! http://goo.gl/QOi8h | Nov 08 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @popurls: Saturday morning I got up early, quietly dressed, made my lunch, and slipped quietly into the garage. http://pop.is/1rkkx | Nov 08 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @glynmoody @zotz -not libre: "hypocritically, subject to the artificial reproduction monopoly of copyright"~ @Crosbie http://ur1.ca/2aqrg | Nov 08 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] George W. Bush has been silent for two years? Didn't even notice. | Nov 08 17:05 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: he likes to pimp everything | Nov 08 17:06 |
| schestowitz | Just not Vista | Nov 08 17:06 |
| schestowitz | Not even brothel would approve Vista | Nov 08 17:06 |
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| _Goblin | Even the show "IT Crowd" has it as a laughing stock. | Nov 08 17:06 |
| schestowitz | Another thing Fry doesn't pimp is the pop | Nov 08 17:07 |
| schestowitz | Another thing Fry doesn't pimp is the pope | Nov 08 17:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @techglance: RockMelt: The Video. Where’s The “Leave Me The F%$K Alone” Button? http://tcrn.ch/8XqhXI | Nov 08 17:07 | |
| schestowitz | Because he was sort of pimping kids | Nov 08 17:07 |
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| _Goblin | or pop... | Nov 08 17:07 |
| schestowitz | And also cause the pope is homophobic | Nov 08 17:07 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: not sure about pop | Nov 08 17:08 |
| _Goblin | I thought he was a classical music fan | Nov 08 17:08 |
| MinceR | he only hates homosexuals who aren't also pedophiliacs | Nov 08 17:08 |
| _Goblin | lawsuit on standby ;) | Nov 08 17:08 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they are pedophiliacs | Nov 08 17:12 |
| schestowitz | The thing called "devil" got into them | Nov 08 17:12 |
| _Goblin | lol....saw some feedback from a Wintroll on cola... | Nov 08 17:13 |
| _Goblin | quote "Goblin sounds much better, smarter too. | Nov 08 17:13 |
| _Goblin | He seems like a nice person who is well informed" | Nov 08 17:13 |
| _Goblin | I am very offended. | Nov 08 17:13 |
| _Goblin | I must be doing something wrong. | Nov 08 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Nov 08 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Got the GOogle Groups URL? | Nov 08 17:13 |
| _Goblin | no, Im looking at it through Thunderbird and my usenet sub. | Nov 08 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Let me find it... | Nov 08 17:14 |
| _Goblin | meant to say roy, if you want to share my usenet account, Im happy to supply you with the login pars | Nov 08 17:14 |
| _Goblin | Im with Tigerusenet....very good. | Nov 08 17:15 |
| schestowitz | It's Gary | Nov 08 17:15 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I can access USENET | Nov 08 17:15 |
| _Goblin | ah..I thought you were just doing through Google Groups... | Nov 08 17:16 |
| _Goblin | well, the offers there if ever you want it.... | Nov 08 17:16 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/dc784d1904c3d159# | Nov 08 17:17 |
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| schestowitz | The trolls just drive people to the show | Nov 08 17:17 |
| _Goblin | "Insomniacs will love this shit. Ten minutes and you will be out cold." - Priceless. | Nov 08 17:17 |
| _Goblin | nearly as good as the Brokeback Bytes email. | Nov 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | I haven't really posted to the group in 4 months | Nov 08 17:18 |
| _Goblin | I forget to look at it....its only now and then I get a chance to skim | Nov 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | And so far I see a threat about me in every page. THe trolls are mentally ill, I gather... | Nov 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe I struck a nerve, I dunno... | Nov 08 17:18 |
| _Goblin | I don't like the attacks they make on people... | Nov 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | [17:17] <_Goblin> "Insomniacs will love this shit. Ten minutes and you will be out cold." - Priceless. | Nov 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Gary | Nov 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | You can tell by the word it's another flat*** nym | Nov 08 17:19 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: "She has God inside her. It would have been easier to deal with a tumor." | Nov 08 17:19 |
| _Goblin | sorry btw for quoting the swearing....I don't like doing it. | Nov 08 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I give no links to such URLs in this channel, either | Nov 08 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, the trolls can't help promoting the site | Nov 08 17:20 |
| schestowitz | I wish them luck and keep it up (they read the IRC logs) | Nov 08 17:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @michaeltwofish @andyc It's 4am, I'm just wildly stabbing at the keyboard. | Nov 08 17:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] There seems to be some confusion about De Lijn + Google transit: Data will *not* be accessible for client developers! http://ur1.ca/2aqxq | Nov 08 17:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Symbian Foundation to Transition to a Licensing Operation - http://bit.ly/bqghAq didn't last long... (via @caostheory) #symbian | Nov 08 17:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @webmink @zotz No. Open Core defines a business model, not shades of grey in a Libre philosophy. | Nov 08 17:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @davidallengreen This is the @NewStatesman blogpost which @Nadine_MP is so anxious to discredit: http://bit.ly/9RWaWF | Nov 08 17:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell's Chief Marketing Officer John Dragoon Does Not Understand #Novell Critics, Rewrites the Past Instead http://ur.ly/sk8F #swpats | Nov 08 17:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] ("Quantitative easing" draws criticism) http://ur1.ca/2ar1p | Nov 08 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Soppy time: My wife is the most wonderful person in the world.... | Nov 08 17:32 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: can you record tomorrow? | Nov 08 17:32 |
| _Goblin | yep.... | Nov 08 17:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Is it possible to run Gnome Shell in !virtualbox, that last time I tried mutter wouldn't work in VM | Nov 08 17:34 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I'll try to get that intro done....I'll get it to you to see what you think.... | Nov 08 17:36 |
| schestowitz | But can you record for an hour? | Nov 08 17:36 |
| schestowitz | I have enough topis | Nov 08 17:36 |
| schestowitz | I have enough topics | Nov 08 17:36 |
| _Goblin | I have the time.....if you have the material....Ive got a few things I can bring up...... | Nov 08 17:37 |
| schestowitz | And we can do even just half an hour, it's easy to do the rest now that it's a repetitive job | Nov 08 17:37 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: can you do it tomorrow afternoon? I'm at work all morning | Nov 08 17:37 |
| _Goblin | yep...how about early evening/afternoon | Nov 08 17:37 |
| _Goblin | Im off all day,,,,so its not a prob | Nov 08 17:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Linux Outlaws live will kick off with the pre-show tonight at 19:00 UTC 20:00 CET. Join us! http://linuxoutlaws.com/live | Nov 08 17:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @glynmoody My comment on Symbian in http://bit.ly/aoT8G3 stands. I wait to see if they learned anything. | Nov 08 17:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm guessing @methoddan is gonna be bouncing off the walls on tonights !lo after yesterdays game, a 2-0 win over Chelsea? whodathunkit? | Nov 08 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Audience control, & why net neutrality is no longer about supporting the innovative little guys - http://bit.ly/cNBJrC interesting analysis | Nov 08 17:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] A toucan describedby data http://ow.ly/19RFx5 | Nov 08 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after a Stevie G blitzkreig hatrick midweek inside 15mins too | Nov 08 17:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the same blob (=>non-Free) can be offered in gratis and commercial distros. freedom is orthogonal to price. | Nov 08 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink why are you narrowing the definition? it defines a licensing strategy that supports certain business models | Nov 08 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz cross service communication would work better if you had the same name on Twitter (@zotzbro) as identi.ca | Nov 08 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Carphone Warehouse sells 99p mobile phone - http://bit.ly/cg13i0 and the only way is down #mobiles | Nov 08 17:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I get the feeling that #Remembrance Day has been corrupted as propaganda for the current pointless war in #Afghanistan | Nov 08 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva You're free to frame it that way. | Nov 08 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 they finally took the piss enough for the penny to drop huh? Sometimes it takes a while to notice what's been in your face for yrs | Nov 08 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Colorado DA drops felony hit-and-run charges against billion-dollar financier because both are #douchebags http://ur1.ca/2ap9x | Nov 08 17:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram yup | Nov 08 18:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @thistleweb nah, I've just not been denting in previous yeaars | Nov 08 18:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Morality - Radiolab" from http://www.radiolab.org/2007/aug/13/ | Nov 08 18:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes: have you had a refund yet then? | Nov 08 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Of course, the Great War was a horrific disgrace, and that certainly needs to be remembered | Nov 08 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The biggest problem I have at the moment is that my feet are killing me, life is good. | Nov 08 18:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva #Linux kernel is not #Open_Core IMO; different phenomenon. | Nov 08 18:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink it's not a matter of my trying to frame it that way. that's straight from the original definition. | Nov 08 18:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If time permits, we hope to release another !techbytes episode tomorrow | Nov 08 18:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 the whole "never again" message has been kinda lost, it's more "for the profits of corporate doners" now | Nov 08 18:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fontana afaik #Open_Core does not even have formal def. | Nov 08 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @fscons: Slides from the #FSCONS presentations are being published here: http://tinyurl.com/34by53q | Nov 08 18:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva All I really want to say on the matter right now is in the blog post you cited :-) | Nov 08 18:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @fscons: "FSCONS är verkligen unik som konferens" @matshenricson on http://tinyurl.com/37fosfp | Nov 08 18:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fusion Garage’s JooJoo exclaims – We’re Still Alive http://ur.ly/s5ze !gnu !linux #tablet | Nov 08 18:25 | |
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| MinceR | juju zombie? | Nov 08 18:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Making LDAP Easy on Linux with phpLDAPadmin: http://bit.ly/clntt2 #linux | Nov 08 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NVIDIA has no plans to support Wayland http://ur.ly/scAK but hey, who uses #NVIDIA anyway? ;-) #blob !dbd !linux !ubuntu | Nov 08 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can Mark Shuttleworth Be The Steve Jobs Of Ubuntu? http://ur.ly/s5ju #steveoflinux !ubuntu !gnu !linux | Nov 08 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xfce 4.8pre1 Released http://ur.ly/saMp | Nov 08 18:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Bush Jr. confesses) http://ur1.ca/2arhq | Nov 08 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Compiz in a strange new land http://ur.ly/s6RA #compiz in #wayland for !ubuntu et al. | Nov 08 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana well, @fabsh failed to show where it fails to fit the Open Core Licensing defininition. can you? | Nov 08 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz the definition we cited is the same that @webmink cited in his article we cited | Nov 08 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Adventures in !Kubuntu : Day one http://ur.ly/sEFG author enjoys a move from !gnome in !gnu !linux to !kde with !ubuntu base | Nov 08 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @schestowitz: #Xfce 4.8pre1 Released http://ur.ly/saMp | Nov 08 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz Wikipedia also relies on it through the clarification article we also cited | Nov 08 18:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Like all useful terms, it gradually gets a life of its own. It didn't become common terminology until well after Lampitt's article. | Nov 08 18:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz though Wikipedia used a URL for Aslett's clarification page that was broken with an update a few weeks ago | Nov 08 18:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @webmink so if you have a Free or Open Core with only libre closed extensions, what would that be called? ie No paid for closed extensions. | Nov 08 18:39 | |
| schestowitz | "Can Mark Shuttleworth Be The Steve Jobs Of Ubuntu? // for sure he is like a hero to ubuntu fans, but not for every !gnu ☛-er" --tzk | Nov 08 18:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Linux Distros You Should Try http://ur.ly/s9tu "Here’s a list of Linux distros that is worth a try." | Nov 08 18:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink fair enough. you said plenty there. it was very useful. thanks! | Nov 08 18:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva any wide consensus on it? | Nov 08 18:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva I didn't fail to show anything. You are the one making this crap up...CC @fontana | Nov 08 18:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @zotz Depends on your philosophy :-) | Nov 08 18:40 | |
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| schestowitz | "I would find it deeply ironic if Wayland--created to solve driver/video stack issues--failed because of lack of driver support." http://wgreenhouse.dyndns.org/statusnet/notice/61383 | Nov 08 18:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva but are they an autority to define it? | Nov 08 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva s/to/tho/ | Nov 08 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Looks like Florian Leibert's Twitter account has been suspended | Nov 08 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another #AdobeTrash update patches multiple vulnerabilities http://ur.ly/shhb Google will soon finish converting _all_ of YouTube to #webm | Nov 08 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva "freedom is orthogonal to price." I know, that was not what I was getting at though. | Nov 08 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Aipac speaker calls for Iran to be "neutered" http://ur1.ca/2arl1 #aggression | Nov 08 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fontana Looks like Florian Leibert's Twitter account has been suspended | Nov 08 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @zotz ... and I think you may mean Gratis, not Libre, in that question. | Nov 08 18:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @webmink you are 100% correct that I meant gratis and not libre there. | Nov 08 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Odd, when I hear “fork” I reach for my knife." -- @BobSutor http://ur.ly/sfci #scoracle #libreoffice #fork | Nov 08 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @webmink would it fit the open core definition? in your view? | Nov 08 18:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @zotz I'd not call it that, given there is usually a for-profit dimension to non-free code in open core. | Nov 08 18:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Telstra violating open source licence, claims developer http://ur.ly/s6RB the company has some former #Microsoft execs running it | Nov 08 18:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @zotz I understand the philosophical motivations for wanting to do so, and I hope we don't see it used that way as it will be divisive. | Nov 08 18:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] gonna catch #deadwalking on #hulu. fell asleep last night. :) | Nov 08 18:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] BlackSheep add-on detects Firesheep on your network http://ur1.ca/2arma | Nov 08 18:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nokia reabsorbs Symbian smartphone software. http://ur1.ca/2armc !fs | Nov 08 18:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] rather #walkingdead haha | Nov 08 18:52 | |
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| schestowitz | " he would have to loose a lot of weight first" | Nov 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/58239601 | Nov 08 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe he'll need a cancer like that other guy? | Nov 08 18:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @slurry @schestowitz Mark Shuttleworth would need to loos a lot of wieght to be another Steve Jobs! Better hit the tredmill | Nov 08 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz Lampitt coined the term, and AFAICT everyone who cares to provide a definition refers to his | Nov 08 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva there might be something wrong with existing attempts to define #Open_Core (which is 1 of those things you know when you see them) | Nov 08 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz doesn't really matter. the criticism we quoted is based on this one definition, and so is the assessment of Linux and distros | Nov 08 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink I see the for-profit motivation in including blobs in GNU+Linux distros. don't you? | Nov 08 18:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @snarf: Pilots told to avoid new airport scanners, "demeaning" pat-downs http://is.gd/gQgoV #privacy | Nov 08 18:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] Eating babies is fattening! | Nov 08 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu I can write about what you've just mailed me, right? Just to be sure... | Nov 08 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva ok, fair point | Nov 08 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Codepope Thank goodness there's the noveau open source driver then eh? #wayland !ubuntu #nvidia | Nov 08 18:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @schestowitz I think you're right about that | Nov 08 18:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 now I know why @rms needs a diet /sarcasm | Nov 08 18:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: PLEASE DO :) , just don't give precise names. I'll risk a financial control just for retaliation :( | Nov 08 18:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Sometimes. Other times it's people who draw the libre/live-with-it balance in a different place to you. | Nov 08 19:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu yes, I know | Nov 08 19:00 | |
| schestowitz | "#Unity and #Wayland sound interesting." http://identi.ca/conversation/57706545#notice-58240302 | Nov 08 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | it makes Ubuntu either a trailblazer or the odd one, depending on whether it can retain users | Nov 08 19:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: Those are ex-Communists, remember :)))) ? | Nov 08 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz Hahahaha! | Nov 08 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: Nou pe blog: How to get shell on your Android phone from Ubuntu http://bit.ly/cRrysI | Nov 08 19:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Obama backs India for permanent seat on UN Security Council. http://ur1.ca/2arq5 #diplomacy | Nov 08 19:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @financiarul: România îl avea pe Păunescu şi cenaclul Flacăra. Ce aveau celelalte ţări socialiste? http://bit.ly/bUFBCk #sfin #financiar | Nov 08 19:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The kernel, #Linux, being #OpenCore discussion misses the point. Linux definitely contains non-free software. Call it what you want. | Nov 08 19:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Code Sprint: Nov 18, 19 - 2010 : Register Here: http://bit.ly/bkdKha (Free w/lunch) Wrk on D7, J1.6, Unit Tests, Campaign, Survey, SMS etc | Nov 08 19:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu not just in Romania, in the US too. Watch how they had the public 'rescue' the 'poor' banks, by socialising debt | Nov 08 19:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Telstra violating open source licence, claims developer http://ur.ly/s6RB the company has some former #Microsoft execs | Nov 08 19:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Another #AdobeTrash update patches multiple vulnerabilities http://ur.ly/shhb Google will soon finish converting _all_ of YouTube to #webm | Nov 08 19:05 | |
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| amarsh04 | back in a few, restarting X | Nov 08 19:06 |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 08 19:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_at_ibm: @linuxfoundation: Original: Making LDAP Easy on Linux with phpLDAPadmin: http://bit.ly/clntt2 #linux | Nov 08 19:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Linux Distros You Should Try http://ur.ly/s9tu "Here’s a list of Linux distros that is worth a try." | Nov 08 19:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @osamak You may find this interesting http://ur1.ca/2arsf (about whether the spec file license tag is inaccurate) | Nov 08 19:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @osamak Now there's a leading question, especially on identi.ca | Nov 08 19:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: In Romania they've privatised all banks, they are all Western-owned now. Now, those banks are exporting all capital... :-| | Nov 08 19:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] US interests cannot peacefully co-exist with true democracies in the Middle East. http://ur1.ca/2arsn #realpolitik | Nov 08 19:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana there might be, but trying to redefine it just so that Linux and distros don't fit it would be... deceptive, IMNSHO | Nov 08 19:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva The nonfree portions of the kernel (as distributed from kernel.org) are not "premium"; rather they are presented as equally gratis | Nov 08 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fontana: The nonfree portions of the kernel are not "premium"; rather they are presented as equally gratis | Nov 08 19:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] The innovation delusion - http://is.gd/gQiKN | Nov 08 19:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Getting ready to do !LO.... | Nov 08 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] How idiots see the GPL - http://is.gd/gQiTF | Nov 08 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Ubuntu 10.10 Review – 2×2, quad monitor http://ur.ly/sizV quad is fun! | Nov 08 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana they're surely defended as “having or reflecting superior quality or value”, and they cost you your freedom | Nov 08 19:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Training: San Francisco User and Administrator Training - Nov 18, 2010 - TWO spaces left: Register here: http://bit.ly/c8tMSo | Nov 08 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I think "premium" in that definition must mean "you have to pay money to get them" | Nov 08 19:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana how about blobs for Intel WiFi that Red Hat adds, at no additional charge, to RHE[G]L. not premium add-ons either? | Nov 08 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to @stephenfry on downloading http://ur1.ca/2arwk !billC32 !copyright | Nov 08 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Linux has the best eye-candy! http://ur.ly/sA0n pretty much true, see latest kwin, compiz, etc. | Nov 08 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Linux Outlaws is live now with the pre-show: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live | Nov 08 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: Linux Outlaws is live now with the pre-show: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live | Nov 08 19:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva no, those are not premium add-ons. | Nov 08 19:27 | |
| gnufreex | Omg... What a bunch of nonsense. http://www.cloudave.com/7356/internal-email-on-why-a-software-company-migrates-away-from-mysql/ | Nov 08 19:28 |
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| schestowitz | cloudave.. | Nov 08 19:28 |
| schestowitz | I remember. | Nov 08 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Who was it again? | Nov 08 19:28 |
| gnufreex | Zoli Erdos | Nov 08 19:29 |
| gnufreex | Some kind of BSD zealot | Nov 08 19:29 |
| schestowitz | He changed theme! | Nov 08 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @melkydd: The upgradable, recyclable Bloom laptop concept http://www.gizmag.com/recyclable-bloom-laptop-concept/16853/ | Nov 08 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☝ Links: Copyright Reform: Following the UK government’s announcement last week, I’ve posted a link collection r... http://bit.ly/c7OXN2 | Nov 08 19:29 | |
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| schestowitz | IT LOOKS LIKE ZD!!! | Nov 08 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe | Nov 08 19:29 |
| schestowitz | There goes credibility | Nov 08 19:29 |
| schestowitz | It's like putting Bill O'Reilly in your top banner :-) | Nov 08 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/413988/rss | Nov 08 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And we're off..... !lo | Nov 08 19:30 | |
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| schestowitz | Zoli wrote about me in http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/03/04/are-we-men-or-children-but-sometimes-the-children-are-men-/ | Nov 08 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | Because of an argument with a professional Microsoft shill http://scobleizer.com/2006/03/04/better-mail-than-jail/ | Nov 08 19:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I LOVE !identica :D Just came home from work to http://dinosaur-os.com/post/1517487067 and http://identi.ca/conversation/57360909 win win ;) | Nov 08 19:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Rand Paul now in power) http://ur1.ca/2aryz | Nov 08 19:34 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/nov/05/does-britain-need-the-military-army-navy-raf | Nov 08 19:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #Twitchers on BBC 4 makes me sad about how obsessed people are about birds | Nov 08 19:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I don't see such a definition of the premium adjective in a dictionary | Nov 08 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana looking at Marten's #6 model, that became OCL, you may be right that the thought was on getting paid | Nov 08 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana still, they only cost nothing if one's freedom is regarded as worthless | Nov 08 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @arnebab So, what happens if I take a GPL'd app, copy the idea and sell it as proprietary then? Nothing? In which case Gpl means nothing :( | Nov 08 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana are they not high-value for Red Hat's customers? why does Red Hat refuse to take them out? | Nov 08 19:42 | |
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| schestowitz | "I commented on that this morning. Do you think soft core porn images are a good idea in a "showcase" of Linux desktops?" | Nov 08 19:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] #WordCampUK mailing list makes depressing reading as momentum of 3 successful events brought to shuddering halt :-( | Nov 08 19:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope Heh. I didn't even zoom in and didn't notice. | Nov 08 19:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] At least it's something to do I suppose | Nov 08 19:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I don't think there's anything about them that makes them "premium". (Aren't all those blobs also available through #Fedora ?) | Nov 08 19:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Royal Navy website hacked http://ur1.ca/2as1x | Nov 08 19:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva has anyone asked Red Hat to take them out? | Nov 08 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @rsandu @schestowitz: In Romania they've privatised all banks, they are all Western-owned now. Now, those banks are exporting all cap ... | Nov 08 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana they're highly-valued features. without the blobs in RHE[G]L, those WiFi cards (allegedly) won't work at all | Nov 08 19:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana some would say they're enterprisey features ;-) | Nov 08 19:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana /me raises hand | Nov 08 19:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Almost home after rawkin' #FSCONS. Need sleep, but it was worth every minute | Nov 08 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is some Greek restaurant called #Xandros in the news, but nothing at all is heard anymore from Xandros Linux. Is it dead? | Nov 08 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana consider the non-Free fonts (that used to be?) in RHE[G]L extra CD. premium or not premium? | Nov 08 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid14_gci1522981,00.html "Some other software makers offer similar programs. Mozilla announced its Security Bug Bounty Program in 2004, funded by Linux distributor Linspire (now owned by Xandros Inc.) " | Nov 08 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | Is it exists at all | Nov 08 19:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I say they're premium, because they are presented as a valuable advantage of the system over those that don't carry them | Nov 08 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana and, what's more, the hardware vendor has been paid for the hardware and firmware | Nov 08 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana the premium feature is that you don't have to go grab the hardware-accompanying media for the hardware to work | Nov 08 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana and we are helping them take freedom away from our customers :-( presenting the non-Free stuff as advantageous, premium :-( | Nov 08 19:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Squidoo (@squidoonews) donates $15k to our fundraising campaign! Can you join them in supporting CC this year? http://bit.ly/9BUJjn | Nov 08 19:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How To See New York's Secret City Hall Subway Stop (Gizmodo): http://bit.ly/aoXcG4 | Nov 08 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz Corps find #Microsoft lock-in bites, costs money just to stay locked in: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9193901/ #ie | Nov 08 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Lee Evans needs banned from so-called birdwatching, he think he runs the world, and he's a warped human being #CrapTelly | Nov 08 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality with 157 dents! | Nov 08 19:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Doing an intensive hackathon / bug fixing on #civicrm irc channel for CiviCampaign for a demo tomorrow. We should be doing this a lot more | Nov 08 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva don't know enough about the details. Anyway you were originally arguing that the kernel as distributed by Linus is Open Core. | Nov 08 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just called @cmdln a friend of mine live on !LO without thinking. Hope he won't mind... :/ | Nov 08 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana non-Free features in popular GNU+Linux distros are also covered in the article, under the very same Free Bait reasoning | Nov 08 20:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Adobe CTO: Flash Battery Problems a "False Argument" (Fast Company): http://bit.ly/atZaZZ (via @techmeme) | Nov 08 20:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK airports make old ladies undress http://ur.ly/s7V6 http://ur.ly/s9Jx #policestate | Nov 08 20:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva All GNU/Linux distros have nonfree software in them, though in many cases it is included innocently. That's the lesson of #SunRPC . | Nov 08 20:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pilots boycott full-body scanners over health fears http://ur.ly/s9ZW "THE world's largest pilot's association.." #policestate | Nov 08 20:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] eBook Sales may Hit $1 Billion By Year's End (RedWriteWeb): http://rww.to/coSNSs (via @techmeme) | Nov 08 20:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook Now Accounts For Nearly 1 In 4 online Display Ads In The U.S. (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/bXkafs (via @techmeme) | Nov 08 20:12 | |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: http://blog.cubrid.org/news/who-choose-cubrid-over-mysql/ | Nov 08 20:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @ubuntutwo INCEPTION: Hacker finds he can gain root privileges by opening a screen within a screen within a screen. #gnuscreen | Nov 08 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 Corps find #Microsoft lock-in bites, costs money just to stay locked in: http://ur.ly/sfsM #ie | Nov 08 20:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 Thanks, I've covered that | Nov 08 20:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hmm... judging by the off tags in this new post http://ur.ly/soiX Neelie Kroes needs someone to explains to her how tags work | Nov 08 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] In Spain we've got biscuit flavoured yoghurt. #yum | Nov 08 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana also, make it Free Bait. even if Open Core turns out to be narrower than we read, Free Bait covers non-Free but gratis | Nov 08 20:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana innocent inclusion can be fixed at the time the problem is found out; commitment to do so (or opposite, or nothing) matters | Nov 08 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] If I write a book under the cc licence, can people sue me for using a character similar to a member of an online community? | Nov 08 20:22 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: wanna record a quick one now? | Nov 08 20:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Vodafone Romania stormed by Androids http://is.gd/gQoi9 #vodafone #romania #android #gnu #linux | Nov 08 20:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @graziano !gnewsense 3 will be based on !debian Squeeze. Can you help us get there? Find out: http://ur.ly/s8qY fsf gnu linux | Nov 08 20:25 | |
| _Goblin | in an hour? (just about to shower) | Nov 08 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: ok, cool. | Nov 08 20:26 |
| _Goblin | I'll see you at 2130 | Nov 08 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @dpic Anyone local have a copy of Free Software, Free Society and/or Free Culture that I could give to Chomsky tomorrow? | Nov 08 20:27 | |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 08 20:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I need to play Civilization IV to cleanse myself. Failing that, get the class 55 footage on to the computer | Nov 08 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] NVIDIA Says It Has No Plans To Support Wayland: Last week Mark Shuttleworth shared that Ubuntu will begin shippi... http://bit.ly/9ikmQ9 | Nov 08 20:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: ♻ @qu1j0t3 Corps find #Microsoft lock-in bites, costs money just to stay locked in: http://ur.ly/sfsM #ie | Nov 08 20:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Win-Gnome http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ + Gnu-Win-Tools http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/oldnews.html #idea #fool-a-linux-user #win2lin | Nov 08 20:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I realise only the first one makes sense, but that's horses for you | Nov 08 20:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Too little too late) http://ur1.ca/2asfj | Nov 08 20:35 | |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I tried CUBRID a long time ago, thanks for mentioning, I am going to try again now. | Nov 08 20:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Watching the last episode of "Max Headroom". Great series. | Nov 08 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] MT @rms http://ur1.ca/2asfj Planting a new tree can replace carbon released by cutting an old-growth tree, but only if u let it grow 100 yrs | Nov 08 20:39 | |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: its dev was here | Nov 08 20:53 |
| schestowitz | That's why I follow thier blog | Nov 08 20:53 |
| schestowitz | They wanted us to occasionally mentioned their work | Nov 08 20:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The End of In-Flight Wi-Fi? http://ur.ly/s5jF there is no war on terrorism, there is war /of/ terrorism #tsa #policestate | Nov 08 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I guess I will disable gnome-shell and mutter in my laptop's !fedora 13, it's just too painfully slow. | Nov 08 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] time to head to class. got my fix of #hulu flotsam and jetsam | Nov 08 20:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Can I just check this http://ur1.ca/2aso0 is the recommended way to install Google Chrome on !Fedora 14? | Nov 08 21:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Poll: When was the term "open innovation" coined? | http://bit.ly/c1skJc | Nov 08 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh You sound smarter than 27 | Nov 08 21:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Poll: Open innovation etymology | opensource.com .::. Size~: 40.37 KB | Nov 08 21:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] #fedora board meeting minutes from today's meeting: http://ur1.ca/2asqg | Nov 08 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @silner !chrome rocks! Good choice mate ;) | Nov 08 21:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 Wow, thanks! :D | Nov 08 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Hello from IdentiCurse | Nov 08 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh I'm 31 and I still feel 22 | Nov 08 21:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 I felt about 36 since I was 14 I think.... | Nov 08 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Ha! You too? :) | Nov 08 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] brb, mental breakdown | Nov 08 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @libreofficeuservol: !libreoffice clip art gallery add-ons available http://libreofficebox.org/gallery-themen-und-clipart/ | Nov 08 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @libreofficeuservol: !libreoffice DE templates available http://libreofficebox.org/vorlagen-and-beispiele/ | Nov 08 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @libreofficeuservol: !libreoffice extensions available http://libreofficebox.org/extensions/ | Nov 08 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @drew: Official !LibreOffice Box web site http://libreofficebox.org/ goes live... congrats to the team. | Nov 08 21:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @silner Incidentally, i was talking about google chrome, not chromium. | Nov 08 21:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Revolutionmuslim.com) http://ur1.ca/2asu0 | Nov 08 21:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] With all the tea drinking and cake eating that goes on at @uupc, you wonder how they ever get a show done... Oo | Nov 08 21:37 | |
| *WireWulf is now known as Wulf|away | Nov 08 21:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @richslxh Yeah I know. Someone was referring me to the unnoficial Chromium repo but I wanted an easy life tonight :) | Nov 08 21:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RockMelt Unveils Web Browser for Facebook Era - (NYTimes) http://nyti.ms/cRDe7h | Nov 08 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Just got this send by @methoddan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6fQnTyEniM Ace! "Buster Bloodvessel" ROFL | Nov 08 21:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 8/11/2010: #Compiz in Wayland, #Telstra Claimed Violating !GPL http://ur.ly/ssZi | Nov 08 21:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Recording another episode of !techbytes shortly | Nov 08 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME Shell 2.91.2 released http://lwn.net/Articles/414039/rss | Nov 08 21:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] if you don't feel like reading the full #fedora board meeting minutes, here's the quick summary: http://ur1.ca/2asxt | Nov 08 21:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Found this great monochrome irssi theme, optimised for DEC VT220-like screens. Looks ace: http://polemon.org/mono.theme | Nov 08 21:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] So far this evening: The Avengers, Max Headroom. On to Doctor Who now. #geekingoutontelevision | Nov 08 21:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~/Blog: Fuduntu - A !Fedora remix for Laptops and Netbooks http://ping.fm/jMlls | Nov 08 22:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Leak: How EU prepares next #ACTA “technical round” - http://bit.ly/aX0NVG sausage-making laid bare: horrible | Nov 08 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] +1 on the name. ♺ @psquid: @silner Interesting remix, but the name is horrible. | Nov 08 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @silner Nice idea, but gnome on a netbook? i like the /tmp and /var/log to ram though, that's cool :) | Nov 08 22:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows Phone 7 lacks on-device encryption (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/aCKJtU | Nov 08 22:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Time for bed. Night everybody. | Nov 08 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Signing off to read some Lovecraft on the Kindle. Catch you tomorrow... | Nov 08 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This could present a bump in the road: NVIDIA Says It Has No Plans To Support Wayland http://ping.fm/gDeMr | Nov 08 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Well of to bed, sleep well all | Nov 08 22:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @psquid @richslxh I suppose the name's meant to be deliberately provocative? But I agree. It still doesn't sound very good | Nov 08 22:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Bah, Fuduntu Linux... É mole ? http://ur1.ca/2at6n Será q fede ? Ou dá um fudunço ? | Nov 08 22:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Someone, somewhere, wants me to love mondays (Dexter + The Walking Dead) | Nov 08 22:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sabayon 5.4 E17 review and screenshots — LinuxBSDos.com http://ping.fm/kfO4g | Nov 08 22:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh May the old ones not look towards you. | Nov 08 22:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @richslxh I have to say, the only thing I I've seen run satisfactorily fast on a Netbook was Lxde | Nov 08 22:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] hello again from IdentiCurse | Nov 08 22:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle plans to offer a commercial Java Virtual Machine - The H Open Source: News and Features http://ping.fm/leKXJ | Nov 08 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I suppose that was inevitable really. Oracle are going for broke on Java for a quick buck :) | Nov 08 22:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @tante: Blogged: Last.fm Mix radio with the linux client - http://ur1.ca/2at9c | Nov 08 22:45 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Nov 08 22:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @mairin Thanks for those, much appreciated! | Nov 08 22:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @silner I like Vector too. Almost an Ubuntu made upon Slack. | Nov 08 23:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EuroDroid: Android Opera Mobile 10.1 beta available NOW via Opera's FTP site - http://bit.ly/cuWfFj | Nov 08 23:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @agentsmith I did like Vector. A lot of those Slack variants are very responsive actually. | Nov 08 23:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How to abandon Free Software ???! http://is.gd/gQC0A #axigen #free #gnu #linux #open | Nov 08 23:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Close the #EU Commissioners Revolving Door http://www.avaaz.org/en/eu_lobby_rules/?cl=815302129&v=7478 #transparency #corruption | Nov 08 23:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxaria: Automatically Capturing, Saving and Publishing Serial RS232 Data to the Web with !linux !ubuntu http://bit.ly/9gBoUi | Nov 08 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @FHM_RO: Keeley Hazell, topless pentru FHM http://bit.ly/a8FgKW | Nov 08 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @silner: ~/Blog: Fuduntu - A !Fedora remix for Laptops and Netbooks http://ping.fm/jMlls | Nov 08 23:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: Chip Shot: MeeGo 1.1 Released http://nowskip.to/chuS2s | Nov 08 23:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: RT @jbfavre: Un serveur web dont la config s'adpate à la charge ? C'est possible avec #varnish ! http://ur1.ca/2amo3 | Nov 08 23:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @financiarul: Centru de cercetare şi dezvoltare software #Intel pentru dispozitive mobile la #Bucuresti http://bit.ly/dl5sFJ | Nov 08 23:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Image Forensics : Error Level Analysis http://ow.ly/36tTd « It spots photoshopping apparently | Nov 08 23:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: #Intel just opened a research and software development center in #Bucharest , #Romania #gnu #linux #meego | Nov 08 23:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Kiwi Linux, an Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux distro optimised for #Romania and #Hungary http://kiwilinux.org/kiwi/en/ #kiwi #linux #free #gnu | Nov 08 23:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've finally figured out a way to do proper noise cancellation in Audacity. It works quite well actually. | Nov 08 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rsandu #Intel just opened a research and software development center in #Bucharest , #Romania #gnu #linux #meego | Nov 08 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetmozilla: Anamaria Stoica: Mozilla’s Build System: Mozilla’s Build System is a very cool distributed system http://bit.ly/asJ2Ov | Nov 08 23:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Law professors call for a halt to ACTA) http://ur1.ca/2atlq | Nov 08 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Site-ul Fortelor navale britanice, spart de un hacker roman http://is.gd/gQErf | Nov 08 23:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Google Opens Office in #Bucharest to Develope Business Strategy in #Romania http://is.gd/gQExI | Nov 08 23:39 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Nov 08 23:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @rsandu If Paula would still live in Romania, I would move over there... ;-) | Nov 08 23:44 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: almost there now | Nov 08 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Just uploading soon | Nov 08 23:45 |
| schestowitz | It's mostly the waiting (multitasking by writing a summary) | Nov 08 23:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @glynmoody what happened to "no more ACTA rounds"? Adding an adjective is supposed to make it OK? | Nov 08 23:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rms: (Law professors call for a halt to ACTA) http://ur1.ca/2atlq | Nov 08 23:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @hgfernan The importance of stupidity in scientific research http://bit.ly/cYIoqg | Nov 08 23:57 | |
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