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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] How will we know when the Internet is dead? http://ur1.ca/2bh18Nov 11 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Glowing Fedora logo FTW! !minecraft !loNov 11 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Good point re copy and paste @bugabundoNov 11 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How will we know when the Internet is dead? .::. Size~: 35 KBNov 11 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I see Redhat has beaten Debian to the number six http://me.lt/9cIQ I suppose it was inevitable really.Nov 11 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] If every !gentoo #PAM fix that I could do in five minutes takes me a whole day (or more, who knows) to discuss, re-explain, and discuss…Nov 11 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn yeah, you quote the OCLBM defn of selling exceptions. me, I'm speaking of Aslett's OCL defn, of vendor offering nF addons.Nov 11 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] … then !Gentoo wouldn't have a working #PAM for a very long time, with over 100 packages each needing to be audited and eventually fixed.Nov 11 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: redhat.com | The World's Open Source Leader .::. Size~: 30.98 KBNov 11 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOOOOOL! :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxoutlaws/+bug/537024/comments/5 !loNov 11 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comment #5 : Bug #537024 : Bugs : Linux Outlaws .::. Size~: 9.62 KBNov 11 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn Mickos' 6 (on which Aslett's OCL is based): some enterprise features are for a feeNov 11 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @valessiobrito: @pitanga @kov @lxoliva agora o concurso da PCS-Poli-USP aceita o formato SVG http://ur1.ca/2b682Nov 11 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Concurso de criação da logomarca do PCS .::. Size~: 46.43 KBNov 11 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | NSA Says Its Secure Dev Methods Are Publicly Known http://ur1.ca/2bh53Nov 11 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | NSA Says Its Secure Dev Methods Are Publicly Known .::. Size~: 129.39 KBNov 11 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn a lot of confusion on Open Core seem to arise because the proposed OCLBM has *nothing* to do with OCL, but Aslett fixes thatNov 11 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus the Fuck I'm tired.... I need sleep now. Work tomorrow too.... Crom laughs at me.Nov 11 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn sorry, I mean Lampitt's OCL here; Aslett adopts the same OCL and clarifies it, but credit is to LampittNov 11 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Selling malnutrition http://ur1.ca/2bh8jNov 11 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Nice write-up about OpenRespect http://is.gd/gUW5s #openrespectNov 11 00:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twisting the bytes » OpenRespect.org: social guidelines for open communities .::. Size~: 28.52 KBNov 11 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Mozilla Firefox: a look at six years of better browsing http://ur1.ca/2bh8rNov 11 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Firefox: a look at six years of better browsing | The PC Report .::. Size~: 56.74 KBNov 11 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Digg - V's Vendetta Video Hacker Hijack: WSU's Hard Wired Wakeup Call (w/Video) http://ur1.ca/2bh9oNov 11 00:32
WireWulfhehNov 11 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digg - V's Vendetta Video Hacker Hijack: WSU's Hard Wired Wakeup Call (w/Video) .::. Size~: 37.42 KBNov 11 00:32
WireWulfMozilla has gotten horrid about fucking up latelyNov 11 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Tampa Red: what a guitarist, amazing!Nov 11 00:34
sebsebsebWireWulf: uh?Nov 11 00:38
WireWulfcould just be me tho :PNov 11 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz M$ once wanted to be IBM. Fact is, IBM changed its ways(thanks to Gerstner), while M$ remained the same. Now, they can't changeNov 11 00:39
sebsebsebWireWulf: well how so, what do you mean by that, I guesNov 11 00:39
sebsebsebsNov 11 00:39
WireWulfI mean it has been crashing on every website I go toNov 11 00:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hey !elotrolado, esto es una prueba para @panko #quelosepais !taraosNov 11 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Gotta say, beside the need to pass pci=nommconf, Mandriva 2005 seems to install smoothly here…Nov 11 00:51
gnufreexRed Hat released RHEL 6 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/10/redhat_rhel_6_launch/Nov 11 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat launches Enterprise Linux 6 • The Register .::. Size~: 31.17 KBNov 11 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, They've had an #RHCE sysadmin cert for a long time. I was in the first focus group formed in 1996 when they considered making it. :)Nov 11 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Xenode Blogger: Driver OpenSource para Kinect-PC-Linux (Hack) http://bit.ly/ahEs8V #kinect #linux #gnuNov 11 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, and, BTW, true to my form, I told them that what they were proposing made little sense & wasn't useful to sysadmin industry. :)Nov 11 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xenode Systems Blog: Driver OpenSource para Kinect-PC-Linux (Hack) .::. Size~: 65.96 KBNov 11 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @lxoliva: Sam Varghese covers the backstage story of the recent !linuxlibre announcement: http://ur1.ca/2bh98 !fsfla !fs !gnu !lpNov 11 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: Nokia News: MeeGo on N900; C5-03 Announced http://nowskip.to/90YfGxNov 11 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @silner, Depends on the details: Is it the emailer's sole work & copyright? Is the email a binary or sources? Is a copy of #GPL included?Nov 11 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @climagic: ps auxwf # Process output in a tree view so you can see the parent -> child process relationships.Nov 11 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia News: MeeGo on N900; C5-03 Announced | Best Mobile Contracts .::. Size~: 50.5 KBNov 11 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I spoke too soon; it doesn't recognize the rtl8101e network card :/Nov 11 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I don't think auto or-later is a particularly great idea for !GPL, even *if* it were politically easy. Or-laters should be opt in.Nov 11 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Whatever you think of @lxoliva can we all agree that this is #suboptimal : http://ur1.ca/2bhjzNov 11 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: git.kernel.org - linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git/blob - firmware/WHENCE .::. Size~: 217.71 KBNov 11 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @CentOS: '6' machines setup as the CentOS-6 buildsystem. And the first round of test-packages are building. #centos6Nov 11 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn no one complains about it in other licenses; there's a double standard because !GPL is associated with #FSFNov 11 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Peter Robinson: OLPC XO on a Fedora ARM platform!http://bit.ly/9pYRFo #fedora #arm #olpcNov 11 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   OLPC XO on a Fedora ARM platform! | nullr0ute's blog .::. Size~: 9.71 KBNov 11 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I've complained about #Mozilla's apparent abuse of Netscape's power in this regard, but I agree there's a bit of a double-standardNov 11 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] That's interesting, I didn't realise that CC licences were implicitly forward-portable from 2.0 onwardsNov 11 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,some believe that !GPL already has an auto or-later, at least, people have argued such to me in the past. (I disagreed vehemently.)Nov 11 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @fontana Whatever you think of @lxoliva can we all agree that this is #suboptimal : http://ur1.ca/2bhjzNov 11 01:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: git.kernel.org - linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git/blob - firmware/WHENCE .::. Size~: 217.71 KBNov 11 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn @lxoliva to come up w/useful defn of #Open_Core I think we need to work backward from candidates like #SugarCRM and #AlfrescoNov 11 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for November 11, 2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/413518/rssNov 11 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 11 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,probably,but I don't think #Open_Core is valuable term worth being well defined;I've decided to abandon it (except meta discussion)Nov 11 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RD @schestowitz @lxoliva I actually admire you & $employer to be facilitating this debate without self-censorship. #redhatNov 11 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Seems #Open_Core has become new slur phrase to use against those pretending to be pro software freedom but aren't;Phrase is thus now uselessNov 11 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] National History Museum asked to reconsider http://ur1.ca/2bhoqNov 11 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Stoked for Severed Fifth to be supporting our thrash metal brothers SkinLab in Jan 2011 in Oakland - http://is.gd/gV13U #severedfifthNov 11 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn in my original draft of that dent I had a stronger adjectiveNov 11 01:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Severed Fifth To Support SkinLab In January In Oakland, California  |  Severed Fifth .::. Size~: 19.83 KBNov 11 01:31
gnufreexschestowitz: Is is just me, or this guy is a mobbyist in disguise? http://identi.ca/freetardNov 11 01:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Freedom <3 Freedom (freetard)  - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 39.9 KBNov 11 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn yeah, I think you're rightNov 11 01:32
gnufreexHe goes around and bothers people, so they think all free software people are like that.Nov 11 01:33
sebsebsebgnufreex: freetard  aye,  instead of retard?Nov 11 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn next time I will use some sort of warningNov 11 01:36
gnufreexsebsebseb: Look at his comments. He is impersonating hard core Free software zealot, while he's probably a mobbyist.Nov 11 01:36
sebsebsebgnufreex: yeah I am reading what he typedNov 11 01:37
sebsebsebgnufreex: its a bit troll like some of it or maybe a lot of it, but not majorly troll like in that caseNov 11 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] For some reason, attempting to use fedora-gwibber instead of PinoNov 11 01:39
sebsebsebgnufreex: what do you mean mobyist, someone who wants to make fun of free software or destroy it?Nov 11 01:39
gnufreexHe is deliberately pissing people off in the name of Freedom. So they start hating us all, thinking he is one of us (Free software people).Nov 11 01:39
gnufreexsebsebseb: I should say "anti-FLOSS"Nov 11 01:40
gnufreexmobbyists are those like Florian Mueller.Nov 11 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, How about: "The following license notices may be troubling to hard-core software freedom zealots. Viewer discretion is advised."Nov 11 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @sebsebseb it's been patched to not be so crapNov 11 01:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] So far, it's slow and colours all messages, the UI is a bit odd; but I'll see how I like it over the next few daysNov 11 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think the worst ones are the ones that say the license is !GPLNov 11 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @dbs @bkuhn @fontana The WHENCE file is an eye-opener. A lesson to other projects about ensuring the provenance and license of incomi ...Nov 11 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] WTF? Is this real? If so, Amazon should be slapped for this - http://is.gd/gV2eKNov 11 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz RT @osamak So, Why is !WikiLeaks a Good Thing Again? http://ur.ly/szh8Nov 11 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 I should maybe start using a client for identica soon. my personal section is not easy to follow since the amount of messages.Nov 11 01:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure eBook: Phillip R Greaves 2nd: Kindle Store .::. Size~: 357.69 KBNov 11 01:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: So, Why is WikiLeaks a Good Thing Again? .::. Size~: 3.29 KBNov 11 01:47
sebsebsebbruce89: hmm all it takes is hitting enter and the message is sent, that one was ready for sending, but  the one I had about Silverlight from the other day,  I didn't really want to send at the time.Nov 11 01:48
sebsebsebbruce89: actsually I see a little typo in the message now,  my  instea of My, but ah wellNov 11 01:49
bruce89I sometimes press return a bit too early, and I delete the old message and start againNov 11 01:50
bruce89quite often because of spelling issuesNov 11 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I feel old, Mandriva 2005 looks actually "not so old" to my eyes :/Nov 11 01:51
sebsebsebbruce89: yeah I feel like doing that with that one, since  I want the my done properlyNov 11 01:51
bruce89you need to let some slideNov 11 01:51
sebsebsebbruce89: altough for that particular message it doesn't matter muchNov 11 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn claim that !GPLv2 has auto or-later is #frivolous . (As for GPLv3 it is absolutely clear that 'this License' means only GPLv3.)Nov 11 01:52
sebsebsebjono: language  :DNov 11 01:54
bruce89to be fair, I think it was Amazon that used that slightly-oddly spelt wordNov 11 01:54
sebsebseboh they used the three letters?  I didn't go on the linkNov 11 01:55
sebsebsebyetNov 11 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Actually, I feel a bit evil for using a client that isn't powered by the hatred of horses or somethingNov 11 01:56
bruce89sebsebseb: sorry, I'm not sure if I'm referring to the same thing you areNov 11 01:57
sebsebsebbruce89: the notice that appereard in here from identica from jono just nowNov 11 01:57
bruce89you mean WTF?Nov 11 01:57
sebsebsebbruce89: yepNov 11 01:57
bruce89that's not swearingNov 11 01:58
bruce89as suchNov 11 01:58
sebsebsebbruce89: uh it is in offical Ubuntu channelsNov 11 01:58
bruce89is this an official ubuntu channel?Nov 11 01:58
sebsebsebbruce89: noNov 11 01:58
sebsebseb,butNov 11 01:58
sebsebsebwell you know who jono isNov 11 01:58
bruce89well, I'm here, so it can't beNov 11 01:58
bruce89next you'll be saying OMG is blasphemousNov 11 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Linux 2.6.37 Kernel With EXT4 & Btrfs: Now that the Linux 2.6.37 kernel merge window is closed and this next... http://bit.ly/c0lDf6Nov 11 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Adieu random things of whateverNov 11 02:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Linux 2.6.37 Kernel With EXT4 & Btrfs .::. Size~: 18.78 KBNov 11 02:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 I should maybe start using a client for identica soon. My personal section is not easy to follow since the amount of messages.Nov 11 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101111 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 11 02:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Kernel Archives .::. Size~: 31.5 KBNov 11 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Awesome write-up from Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols 'The new Linux Desktop: Ubuntu's Unity' http://is.gd/gV4dS #ubuntu #unityNov 11 02:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The new Linux Desktop: Ubuntu's Unity - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 73.25 KBNov 11 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @ jimmorgan only showing up once hereNov 11 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Well I haven't used a client yet for identica, so what to try first?Nov 11 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Awesome work from Robert and co on LightDM - http://is.gd/gV54f #lightdm #ubuntuNov 11 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Secret Shell Oil documents http://ur1.ca/2bi3oNov 11 02:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bob's development blog: LightDM .::. Size~: 71.05 KBNov 11 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @fontana Just got me thinking: If binary is GPL and there is no source, am I free to decompile it?Nov 11 02:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] downloading the latest systemrescueCD...Nov 11 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @rms Secret Shell Oil documents http://ur1.ca/2bi3oNov 11 02:41
sebsebsebHmm cone on bot show the message I just sent on identica/Nov 11 02:43
sebsebseb?Nov 11 02:43
sebsebsebOr don't you like it, because its also sent to someone who isn't on your thing?  Sent to two people, one of which is on your thing, but the other nopeNov 11 02:44
sebsebsebhmm thats ashame, the bot isn't showing itNov 11 02:45
sebsebsebWireWulf: Do you use identica?Nov 11 02:46
WireWulfyupNov 11 02:46
sebsebsebWireWulf: ok we should subscribe to each other probably realyNov 11 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @gnufreex IANYL TINLA but I think the answer is yesNov 11 02:47
sebsebsebAlso identica big :)  Facebook big :(Nov 11 02:47
*WireWulf is one facebook, twitter, and identicaNov 11 02:48
sebsebsebWireWulf: name?Nov 11 02:50
WireWulfCuan ConnorNov 11 02:50
sebsebsebWireWulf: I mean on identicaNov 11 02:50
sebsebsebscrew FacebookNov 11 02:50
WireWulfI use my nickNov 11 02:50
sebsebsebok so WireWulf ?Nov 11 02:50
WireWulfWireWulfNov 11 02:50
WireWulfyeah :PNov 11 02:50
sebsebsebWireWulf: oh you got no messages on identica?Nov 11 02:52
sebsebsebWireWulf: not much poin subscring to you, unless your going to post messages, and messages that are goodNov 11 02:52
gnufreexHahaNov 11 02:53
WireWulflolNov 11 02:53
WireWulfI use twitter a lil moreNov 11 02:54
sebsebsebWireWulf: well I have a little problem when it comes to TwitterNov 11 02:54
sebsebsebsomeone else has been using this name on there since like last yearNov 11 02:54
sebsebsebsomeone who knows French as well,  probably the person who  went on here even, with this name, untill I put nick protection onNov 11 02:54
sebsebsebthat I  told to get  off it, in a small channel where I got kickedNov 11 02:55
sebsebsebso its a bit hmm what would I register instead if going to use TwitterNov 11 02:55
WireWulfdunnoNov 11 02:55
sebsebsebI have an idea for something to registerNov 11 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] punched another hole in the corporate wall...Nov 11 02:56
sebsebsebanyway Twitter I woudn't use that much with an account I expect,  since well thats mainstrame for a startNov 11 02:56
sebsebseband  identica is the open source geeks one :)Nov 11 02:56
sebsebsebyeah these kind of things that are properly main strame, tend to suck,  I mean look at Facebook for exampleNov 11 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Microsoft Death Watch - Confirmation From Business Insider http://bit.ly/aGLWbENov 11 02:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Microsoft Death Watch  Confirmation From Business Insider .::. Size~: 111.7 KBNov 11 02:57
sebsebsebgnufreex: hmm why aren't you sleeping?Nov 11 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @osamak So, Why is !WikiLeaks a Good Thing Again? http://sowhyiswikileaksagoodthingagain.com/Nov 11 03:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] just finished watching wind chill. cool flick http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486051/Nov 11 03:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: So, Why is WikiLeaks a Good Thing Again? .::. Size~: 1.76 KBNov 11 03:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wind Chill (2007) - IMDb .::. Size~: 84.28 KBNov 11 03:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New Remembrance Day Blog Post: "University of Toronto: In Flanders Fields…" http://ur1.ca/2bicn Oh !Canada #cdnpoliNov 11 03:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: University of Toronto: In Flanders Fields&  «  Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 42.19 KBNov 11 03:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn hey, don't look at the linux-firmware repo then. IIRC it's an order of magnitude heavier. you'd puke your guts outNov 11 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @gnufreex yep (IANAL). same as if the binary is X11-licensed. want to help?Nov 11 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @lh: Another excellent video from the Story of Stuff Project: The Story of Electronics http://tinyogg.com/watch/kwWIs/Nov 11 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @gbraad is that like piercing the corporate veil?Nov 11 03:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: The Story of Electronics (2010) .::. Size~: 3.15 KBNov 11 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fontana like pushing a pushpin in a corkboard ;-) (can't be more descriptive)Nov 11 03:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I'd rather work on Free Bait defn, such that OCL = Free Bait with Commercial non-Free TrapNov 11 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn was disturbing a typo? I thought you meant disgusting ;-)Nov 11 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz What the heck R the guys doing in ZDnet ? Creating dissension in the community with those poorly written articles...Nov 11 03:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Urban Terror HD: Going Away From Open-Source: It's been two years since the release of Urban Terror 4.1, an open... http://bit.ly/bG0X5LNov 11 03:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Urban Terror HD: Going Away From Open-Source .::. Size~: 17.95 KBNov 11 03:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] searching for #iptux for !sabayon !gentooNov 11 03:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] whitehouse.gov uses Firefox 3.6 http://bit.ly/9Z0fhoNov 11 04:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla in Asia  » Blog Archive   » whitehouse.gov uses Firefox 3.6 .::. Size~: 6.57 KBNov 11 04:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Red Hat News | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6: A Technical Look at Red Hat’s Defining New Operating Platform http://ur1.ca/2bitaNov 11 04:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat News | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6: A Technical Look at Red Hats Defining New Operating Platform .::. Size~: 50.2 KBNov 11 04:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #nba streaming on the desktop but am hardly paying attention #boringNov 11 04:19
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Chips_B_MalroyHi allNov 11 04:23
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A904720101110Nov 11 04:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BlackRock cuts Microsoft stake below 5 percent| Reuters .::. Size~: 69.71 KBNov 11 04:24
Chips_B_Malroy"BlackRock (BLK.N), one of the biggest holders of Microsoft Corp (MSFT.O) shares, has cut its stake in the software company below 5 percent, according to a regulatory filing on Tuesday."Nov 11 04:24
Chips_B_Malroy"At the end of last quarter, BlackRock's major units held about 470 million Microsoft shares, according to Thomson Reuters data, about 5.5 percent of the company."Nov 11 04:25
Chips_B_MalroyJust like the CEO of Microsoft, Steve Ballmer, BlackRock has no expectations of MS stock rising.  In fact, this next link maybe the reason for all the selling.Nov 11 04:26
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1895417/microsoft-failing-shift-windows-phone-handsetsNov 11 04:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                     Microsoft is failing to shift many windows phone 7 handsets - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 89.25 KBNov 11 04:26
Chips_B_Malroy"Market researchers claim that the Vole's WP7 handset partners have managed to flog only 40,000 WP7 smartphones during the first 24 hours on sale in the US."Nov 11 04:27
Chips_B_MalroySo is the WP7 to become the "next of Kin?"Nov 11 04:28
Chips_B_MalroyOr rather, the next Kin.Nov 11 04:28
sebsebsebhmmNov 11 04:28
sebsebsebso  having a look at my hotmail account where I get a lot of spamNov 11 04:28
sebsebseband wellNov 11 04:28
sebsebsebthree people I used to know, have had their accounts taken overNov 11 04:28
sebsebseband yeah people who weren't exactly good at computersNov 11 04:29
Chips_B_MalroyOne thing is for sure, both Ballmer and BlackRock are not selling off massive shares of Microsoft stock off thinking that the stock price is going rise.  They are clearing betting on the stock price declineing and are bailing out.Nov 11 04:29
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.zacks.com/research/get_news.php?id=314l1141Nov 11 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] ACLU vs. TSA http://ur1.ca/2biwqNov 11 04:31
Chips_B_MalroyTitle:  BLACKROCK AND STEVE BALLMER ARE SELLING MICROSOFT SHARES, SHOULD YOU?Nov 11 04:31
Chips_B_Malroy"BlackRock (NYSE:BLK), which is one of Microsoft's (NASDAQ:MSFT) largest shareholders, cut its stake to below 5%, just days after Steve Ballmer sold 50 million shares of the company."Nov 11 04:32
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://blogs.computerworld.com/17329/windows_phone_7_launch_dwarfed_by_android_and_iphone_looks_to_be_a_dudNov 11 04:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows Phone 7 launch, dwarfed by Android and iPhone, looks to be a dud - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 67.72 KBNov 11 04:36
Chips_B_Malroy"Microsoft is said to be spending $100 million on the Windows Phone 7 ad campaign, and pulled out all the stops for a glitzy product launch yesterday. But a market research source says that only 40,000 phones were sold the first day, dwarfed by the 200,000 Android devices Google activates each day, and by the 600,000 first-day pre-ordres of the iPhone 4. At this rate, Microsoft will never catch up."Nov 11 04:37
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.thestreet.com/story/10916575/1/microsoft-sells-40k-windows-7-phones.htmlNov 11 04:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Sells 40K Windows 7 Phones - TheStreet .::. Size~: 82.08 KBNov 11 04:37
Chips_B_Malroy"Even with a glitzy media intro last month hosted by champion inside-seller and company chief Steve Ballmer, Microsoft, which spent a reported $100 million on the phone's advertising campaign, sold a mere 40,000 Windows 7 phones Monday, according to a market research source who tracks phone sales."Nov 11 04:38
Chips_B_MalroyWhile it might be too early to tell if WP7 is the complete failure like Kin was, the rumors coming out seem to support this.  Could this be why Steve Ballmer and BlackRock are selling shares off?Nov 11 04:41
Chips_B_MalroyAfter all, Steve Ballmer already knows the WP7 sales figures from Europe, which he is not sharing with the world.  Be he is dumping stock.Nov 11 04:41
Chips_B_Malroy*ButNov 11 04:42
Chips_B_Malroysorry for the typoNov 11 04:42
Chips_B_Malroysorry for not putting this up at a decent hour, but I just seen it.Nov 11 04:43
Chips_B_MalroyAs WP7 maybe starting to fail in a big way, Microsoft turns to more legal action.Nov 11 04:43
Chips_B_MalroyAnd Motorola countersues MS.Nov 11 04:45
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9196078/Motorola_retaliates_with_lawsuit_against_Microsoft?taxonomyId=144Nov 11 04:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola retaliates with lawsuit against Microsoft - Computerworld .::. Size~: 81.13 KBNov 11 04:45
Chips_B_MalroySince WP7 cannot compete with Android based on Linux kernel therefore MS sues companies that use Android like Motorola.  Clear sign of the coming end for Microsoft when a company is desperate and cannot compete.Nov 11 04:47
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.business-standard.com/india/news/microsoft-sues-motorola-over-xbox-royalties-wsj/115391/Nov 11 04:48
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Chips_B_Malroysorry, wrong linkNov 11 04:49
Chips_B_Malroywell maybe its ok link after allNov 11 04:50
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.informationweek.com/news/software/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=228200641Nov 11 04:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Sues Motorola Over Xbox Technologies -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 78.91 KBNov 11 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] I am declaring war on mailing lists. Roadmap to follow. Who is with me???Nov 11 04:51
Chips_B_MalroyThis lawsuit is most likely MS attempting to apply more pressure on MS to settle on using Android and pay MS.Nov 11 04:51
Chips_B_MalroyWhich resulted in Motorola counter suits.Nov 11 04:51
Chips_B_MalroyMotorola is not going away quietly.Nov 11 04:52
Chips_B_MalroyIs this all that Ballmer and Microsoft have, lawsuits because they cannot compete and turn out products that sell without monopoly power?Nov 11 04:53
Chips_B_Malroyend of rant, good night allNov 11 04:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] The pomegranate is a lying bastard. I don't believe that something so delicious and awesome code be a "superfruit". Stunned.Nov 11 05:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] (1/2) The thing I don't get about the pomegranate it is that you get the Jack Sparrow sense of wonder when opening it, it tastes pretty...Nov 11 05:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] (2/2) ...damn good, and yet it is still really good for you. I think it must have some evil track up it's sleeve. I don't trust it.Nov 11 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Elections in Greece http://ur1.ca/2bjbgNov 11 05:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith ZDNet became just a blogging platform (90+% of it) with lots of Windows boosters, Google News foolishly syndicates these blogsNov 11 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I thought Ozzie would have change them, but he abandonedNov 11 05:46
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/mathmob/statuses/2537617518231552 "@metacode @schestowitz Join Scilab's free on-line community at #Equalis (www.equalis.com)"Nov 11 05:46
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/metacode/status/2450273469472770 "Scilab www.scilab.org (cc @schestowitz) Great #FOSS alternative to both Octave and MATLAB #Sci4D #ICT4D"Nov 11 05:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Not a good headline: "Oracle plans to offer a commercial Java Virtual Machine " http://ur.ly/sRFo free is not opposite of "commercial".Nov 11 05:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I had forgotten how much I dig the Eagles.Nov 11 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rsandu How to abandon Free Software ???! http://is.gd/gQC0A #axigen #free #gnu #linux #open > yes, axigen = Linux but proprietary alwaysNov 11 05:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft made both Vista Phony 7 [sic] and Silverlight for internal use only given that lots of Vista Phony 7 are Microsoft employeesNov 11 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We decided to leverage #Varnish Cache’s ability to load and compile a new set of configuration instructions on the fly." http://ur.ly/sZt5Nov 11 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The few people who bought "KIN" (503 people?) are getting ride of them on ebay http://ur.ly/sp8f #kin #kin7 #wp7Nov 11 06:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ouvindo no GloboNews propaganda de uma tal de eRRarmony.oO( putz, que nome infeliz, só pode dar eRRado! )Nov 11 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reason #1 not to use GIMP: photoshopping(R) images not not possible. Reason #1 not to use PS: Adobe a trademark bully, as per their siteNov 11 06:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Berlusconi's media empire http://ur1.ca/2bjrrNov 11 06:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man... the !pens suck ATM... :(Nov 11 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fmgil Oh my gosh, just discovered Axigen.So it runs on Linux, and doubts on the power of open source software? Hell of contradiction!Nov 11 07:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "Linux Outlaws": "Amazon Kindle 3 Review" I really hope it isn't as it sounds.. (I'm a huge fan of the right to read http://ur1.ca/88ey)Nov 11 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: The few people who bought "KIN" (503 people?) are getting ride of them on ebay http://ur.ly/sp8f #kin #kin7 #wp7Nov 11 07:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: Understanding the Structure of a #Linux Command http://bit.ly/aWWWZENov 11 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: #Apache drops the hammer on #Oracle over #Java http://zd.net/9ieEMg #gnu #linuxNov 11 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: Kinect Hacked, Adafruit Bounty Won http://bit.ly/9tSGPYNov 11 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Culture of complacency http://ur1.ca/2bk6yNov 11 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The End Of The Road For Web Services: The news is out that WS-I will now be absorbed by OASIS according to their... http://bit.ly/9Tgau1Nov 11 07:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: Found! #Linux Open Source Drivers for #Xbox #Kinect « Q8GEEKS.ORG http://nowskip.to/aWRVEcNov 11 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] CentOS: checklist RO rsync server http://is.gd/gVu7X #centos #rsync #linuxNov 11 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @otourly: ♺ @drew: Want To Make !LibreOffice In Ubuntu Rock? Want a Job? http://bit.ly/b39ShU Dev/Pkg Eng.Nov 11 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @jonobacon: Awesome write-up from Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols 'The new Linux Desktop: Ubuntu's Unity' http://is.gd/gV4dS #ubuntu #unityNov 11 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @android1nfo: Samsung Introduces The Continuum Galaxy S Series Phone In An Official Video http://bit.ly/aybyxp #androidNov 11 07:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @workingwriter: New post about my #openSUSE and #KDE talk in Madison, WI: http://wp.me/pf0d-3SNov 11 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozilla: whitehouse.gov uses #Firefox 3.6 http://bit.ly/9Z0fho #mozilla #gnu #linuxNov 11 07:41
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Diablo-D3you know what I find hilarious?Nov 11 07:49
Diablo-D3most of the recent ns plugin fixes in firefox have been to make silverlight work rightNov 11 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh Fedora's ability to remove user data being equal to Amazon's doesn't make any sense. You know antifeatures can't exist with fs. !loNov 11 07:49
Diablo-D3because its largely a total pile of shitNov 11 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fontana I totally agree with @arnebab. A default-but-removable option would be awesome.Nov 11 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft Death Watch – Confirmation From Business Insider http://is.gd/gVvRk #microsoft #businessNov 11 07:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Can Bill O'Reilly be beheaded? No joke. http://ur1.ca/2bkd6Nov 11 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @themadhatteron: Microsoft Death Watch - Confirmation From Business Insider http://bit.ly/aGLWbENov 11 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Facebook is Now Officially a Patent Bully http://ur.ly/sWlC #swpats #usptoNov 11 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Please consider expanding the wiki about Facebook, a summary would be nice. http://ur.ly/s911Nov 11 08:02
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*ziggyfish trying Fedora 14Nov 11 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: wget: more versatile then a trusty swiss-army knife « AAF: AAOBloggers http://bit.ly/9aIzW6Nov 11 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Please consider expanding the wiki about Facebook, a summary would be nice. http://ur.ly/s911Nov 11 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: Against Intellectual Monopoly http://goo.gl/nsXcNov 11 08:06
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schestowitzziggyfish: nice!Nov 11 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @themadhatteron: Microsoft Death Watch - Confirmation From Business Insider http://bit.ly/aGLWbENov 11 08:11
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ThistleWebschestowitz: did you hear about facebook buying drop.io resulting in free and paid accounts closing? Presumably there will be some file storage service implemented in facebook in futureNov 11 08:11
ThistleWebI only noticed yesterday when I remembered drop.io as a file storage option for a project I'm working on, only to find it's coming to an endNov 11 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] KUHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!Nov 11 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh Almost feels like Kirk calling out for Khan Noonien Singh!Nov 11 08:14
ThistleWebdrop.io seemed like a pretty decent alternate to rapidshare, megaupload etcNov 11 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh I'm sure that shout has been a crowd favourite at many KKK get-togethers, different spelling and meaning of course ;)Nov 11 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad That's just it! :)Nov 11 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak I don't think that's true. It's definitely harder, but not impossible IMO.Nov 11 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh hahahah that was golden. Thank you @kaz for brightening my dayNov 11 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Hehehe.... Wouldn't have expected anything less. The last FaiF was amazing, BTW. Good job! :)Nov 11 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Running to the hills as carnival season kicks off in W. Germany. #SFSCONNov 11 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Yeah. @kaz rocks! :DNov 11 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Acacia Slanders !GNU !Linux http://ur.ly/sdar #swpats #microsoft #scoNov 11 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Really like the news aspect of @faif. I think it's a better show than SFLS was. And SFLS was great!Nov 11 08:21
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ziggyfishschestowitz: fedora work in VirtualBoxNov 11 08:27
ziggyfishdoes *Nov 11 08:27
*ziggyfish third time lucky?Nov 11 08:29
*ziggyfish failNov 11 08:36
*ziggyfish successNov 11 08:38
schestowitzat work?Nov 11 08:38
schestowitzCause you could also put Windows under VB if you needed itNov 11 08:39
schestowitzFor me, wine is OKNov 11 08:39
schestowitzI installed wine for the 1st time since 2005Nov 11 08:39
schestowitzThere's an MRI viewer I need that's a windows binaryNov 11 08:39
ziggyfishschestowitz: ATM at home, however I do use Fedora 12 at workNov 11 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Can't wait to get CentOS 6 on my servers. Been really happy with 5 compared to Ubuntu Server. Long live #RHEL! :)Nov 11 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh I don't know of any long-remaining antifeature in a free app. You shouldn't have put Fedora's community's control equal to Amazon's.Nov 11 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak I am not saying it is. You missed my point.Nov 11 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak My point being that the issue has little to do with the license of the code or with DRM. It's a control issue.Nov 11 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh It has everything to do with the license. If people could change Kindle to respect them, there'd not be unjust control, 'd there?Nov 11 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] How to Save Money With #Facebook :) - http://goo.gl/n7VxoNov 11 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Want To Make #LibreOffice In #Ubuntu Rock? Want a Job? http://goo.gl/iRdQqNov 11 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Bob's development blog: !GNOME 3 !PPA http://goo.gl/qc7KNNov 11 09:04
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*ziggyfish now trying kde version of fedoraNov 11 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Public TDF Marketing ConfCall starts in 8 hours: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls#Next_Call !libreofficeNov 11 09:16
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schestowitzziggyfish: it's godoNov 11 09:16
schestowitzAND... good tooNov 11 09:17
ziggyfishlolNov 11 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Conservationists sue RSPB over study - http://bit.ly/bPcbwr "Scientific disputes are not for the courts" (via @SLSingh @billt) #libelNov 11 09:19
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ziggyfishI like this quote - every time you write some code, imagine that the person who will maintain it after you is a serial killer who knows where you live.Nov 11 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Italy and Spain block EU-wide patent talks - http://bit.ly/d2h6wL forza Italia #eu #patentsNov 11 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Robert Ancell: #LightDM status update http://goo.gl/uPTb6Nov 11 09:21
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schestowitzziggyfish: what's the context?Nov 11 09:22
schestowitzoiaohm: good news...Nov 11 09:22
ziggyfishit's a programming jokeNov 11 09:22
schestowitzLinux wipes Microsoft in mobile, stillNov 11 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA will force your ISP to censor your work if someone lodges an unsupported trademark claim - http://bit.ly/brLLGa what a mess #actaNov 11 09:22
schestowitzAnd Mono is on its last legNov 11 09:22
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schestowitzziggyfish: the code I write these days is gplv3, but I haven't uploaded the latest yetNov 11 09:23
schestowitzI don't mind anyone using it, some want to exclude use by weaponry (murder) companiesNov 11 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ralph Janke: #Apache Software Foundation vs. #Oracle http://goo.gl/jP7R7Nov 11 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Publishers Care About The Costco v. Omega Supreme Court Case - http://bit.ly/cnu1Lb v. important case on #copyright and #firstsale lawNov 11 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Motorola lands 16-patent countersuit on Microsoft - http://bit.ly/d7KQo7 the madness continues #patents #motorola #microsoftNov 11 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] La Quadrature at the EU Net Neutrality Summit - http://bit.ly/a3LuoT good news #eu #netneutralityNov 11 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] !replicant supported phone page updated. Help usNov 11 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] YAY!!! My The Promise deluxe box set just shipped! :D !bruceNov 11 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] !replicant supported phone page updated: http://replicant.us/supported-phones/ Help us supporting YOUR phone. Join usNov 11 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lawsuit Tests Whether Twitter Pictures Are Free For The Taking - http://bit.ly/b0gEbd interesting case #twitter #copyrightNov 11 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh "The Sheepdip Sessions" lolNov 11 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @lxoliva ♻ @lh: Another excellent video from the Story of Stuff Project: The Story of Electronics http://tinyogg.com/watch/kwWIs/Nov 11 09:41
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: The Story of Electronics (2010) .::. Size~: 5.24 KBNov 11 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA criminalises ordinary companies and individuals - http://bit.ly/aMKSHv shoddy work will be a nightmare if implemented #actaNov 11 09:42
ThistleWebI do find it funny that the same groups of "concerned citezins" who say "gun's don't kill people, people kill people" are the same groups who claim "porn causes rape, people don't cause rape"Nov 11 09:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA criminalises ordinary companies and individuals - Press releases .::. Size~: 19.11 KBNov 11 09:42
ThistleWebdefend their own freedoms while seeking to scapegoat and ban others they don't approve ofNov 11 09:43
MinceR"Guns don't kill people, I do!"Nov 11 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Confirmed: Fox Blocking Google TV - http://bit.ly/cb1cNu old TV vs. new TV #google #tvNov 11 09:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Confirmed: Fox Blocking Google TV| paidContent .::. Size~: 27.27 KBNov 11 09:44
ThistleWebgood slogan for a military recruitment adNov 11 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak I think you are wrong, you think I am wrong, that's OK...Nov 11 09:46
MinceRiirc it's what The Postal Dude, Jr. says when he changes from police uniform to normal clothesNov 11 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak ...But telling me I shouldn't have said what I said is a bit preposterous, don't you think?Nov 11 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @czajkowski Time to read up on the application - Big Blue Button - http://bigbluebutton.org/Nov 11 09:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Home | www.bigbluebutton.org .::. Size~: 15.22 KBNov 11 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @osamak: this is the point. I have not migrated yet, people still follow me on identi.ca. These are just test transmissions.Nov 11 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: Italy and Spain block EU-wide patent talks - http://bit.ly/d2h6wL forza Italia < uh, that slogan is already taken ;-)Nov 11 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Italy and Spain block EU-wide patent talks | EurActiv .::. Size~: 56.57 KBNov 11 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I half expect to see a laconica instance called jesusnet where they have "disciples" instead of "followers" lolNov 11 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MIT's Tech Review Comes Out In Favor Of Patent Trolls - http://bit.ly/c7dZRW shame on them for running this story #patents #trolls #mitNov 11 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] "Manu and Citeh at same level" Yeah right! #manicini-on-crack http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/9170997.stmNov 11 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MIT's Tech Review Comes Out In Favor Of Patent Trolls | Techdirt .::. Size~: 69.78 KBNov 11 09:54
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oiaohmRemember what I said about that Motorola would fight MS patent claims to the end.  schestowitzNov 11 09:55
oiaohmAnd a few people questioned it.Nov 11 09:55
oiaohmBy the time Motorola is done MS might not be legally able to sell Windows Mobile 7Nov 11 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] "Manu and Citeh at same level" Yeah right! ^ ^ #mancini-on-crack http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/9170997.stmNov 11 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I guess a laconica with "disciples" could apply to any cult / religion, not just Christianity. Discrimination isn't a good thing lolNov 11 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Home .::. Size~: 75.47 KBNov 11 09:56
ziggyfishoiaohm: interestingNov 11 09:58
oiaohmziggyfish: Motorola has its own law firm.Nov 11 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Heard a lota talk about this Jesus, A man of love, a man of strength. But what a man was 2000 years ago, means nothing at all to me today !qNov 11 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Most rail companies provide transport. #DB provides passenger complaints forms.Nov 11 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Versita/Springer – please edit our commercial journals for free so we can sell them to you - http://bit.ly/cY4kVZ ah, trad STM publishingNov 11 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @lxoliva I would love to help but I never messed with firmware... don't know if I can be of any real help. @fontana thanksNov 11 10:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - Versita/Springer – please edit our commercial journals for free so we can sell them to you «  petermrs blog .::. Size~: 25.71 KBNov 11 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Listening to Live - Operation Spirit (Mtv Unplugged), awesome band! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz8ZIv4NMcENov 11 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Live - Operation Spirit - MTV Unplugged 1995 02 15.avi   .::. Size~: 109.2 KBNov 11 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @caostheory: Oracle clarifies some issues about MySQL pricing and licensing changes. http://bit.ly/bW0Skw < late: was clarified already ;)Nov 11 10:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Get The Facts: MySQL Licensing and Pricing (Oracle's MySQL Blog) .::. Size~: 31.39 KBNov 11 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Holly shit! It has started..... XxNov 11 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ♻ @karsten: Most rail companies provide transport. #DB provides passenger complaints forms. > ...which ought to be delayed for consistency.Nov 11 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh you're saying that "shouldn't have" is an invalid expression? => "We should have said every thing we've ever said"?Nov 11 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh I'm trying to engage in a useful and respectful discussion. It's ok if you don't want to explain/correct what you publicly said.Nov 11 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @mdz "If you’re not embarrassed when you ship your first version you waited too long." - http://bit.ly/bosDbyNov 11 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fasten Your Seatbelts – #Firefox 4 Beta adds new JavaScript power and faster graphics - http://bit.ly/aIfodH the fruits of competitionNov 11 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 1.0 Is the Loneliest Number  Matt Mullenweg .::. Size~: 159.44 KBNov 11 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Fasten Your Seatbelts  Firefox 4 Beta adds new JavaScript power and faster graphics :: The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 41.18 KBNov 11 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Future Goes Dark as Stock Dumped, #wp7 Fails, and Microsoft Sues !Linux Rivals http://ur.ly/svTK #swpats as principal routeNov 11 10:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsofts Future Goes Dark as Stock Dumped, Vista Phony 7 [sic] Fails, and Microsoft Sues Linux Rivals Instead | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.56 KBNov 11 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Christopher Marlowe’s play is published in Uzbek for the first time - http://bit.ly/aPC0eK rather appropriately... #uzbek #timurNov 11 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Christopher Marlowe’s play is published in Uzbek for the first time «  OCA .::. Size~: 23.39 KBNov 11 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Texrat: RT @MickyFin: Nokia now supports 19 Qt devices on Ovi http://bit.ly/9BbWcr via FeedlyNov 11 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Nokia now supports 19 Qt devices on Ovi » TamsS60 - the Symbian Blog .::. Size~: 29.31 KBNov 11 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @markey: A warning to FCamera users on #N900 While it makes great photos it has a bug that can destroy your filesystem when saving #MaemoNov 11 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh does the kindle 3 do regular epub?Nov 11 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb Nope.Nov 11 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen: Talk about scale... My first game in @OviStore have been already downloaded over 20k times in a weekNov 11 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo Intel pushing MeeGo app development with Nokia - OnlyGeek http://dlvr.it/8MKKjNov 11 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intel pushing MeeGo app development with Nokia | OnlyGizmos - Technology, Reviews & more .::. Size~: 28.85 KBNov 11 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak I don't see the need to correct it. I stand by what I said. It's a trust issue. Fedora includes thousands packages...Nov 11 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh that saves me some money then, I thought it would but they'd just prefer you use their ownNov 11 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak... at some point I need to trust them. I can't check all the code myself. F/OSS makes it better but doesn't solve the issue.Nov 11 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb You can just convert epub to mobi with Calibre and put them on the Kindle. Very easy.Nov 11 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh Calibre code is like Front Page doing markup lol, but yeah it does work. The kindle 3 does look VERY nice, I was awaiting this !lo epNov 11 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] being quieter than normal #remembrance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_DayNov 11 10:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Remembrance Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 117.28 KBNov 11 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb Best ebook reader on the market IMO.Nov 11 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the desire to do epub native on a device is like wanting to do ogg native, not convert to mp3 to play it #openstandardsNov 11 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh as much as I back FOSS stuff, it does appear to tick all the boxes for meNov 11 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if you have to convert, your vote for #openstandards isn't heard. It's why I subscribe to ogg rss feeds, I'm one of the FOSS numbersNov 11 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh well, all the boxes except epub apparently lolNov 11 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Just observed a 2 minute silence at "The eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month" - http://ur1.ca/2bm0k #fbNov 11 11:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: November 11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 126.44 KBNov 11 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb Yeah. Same for me... And since all the books have DRM anyway...Nov 11 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Need to rename World War 1 to European War. No one else outside Europe was involved! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I #fbNov 11 11:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: World War I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 575.67 KBNov 11 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] New version of #Khweeteur in repositories 0.0.37 #N900 #MaemoNov 11 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I'm very close to tell !Gentoo to fuck it and find someone else to deal with #PAM given that a 2-minutes change is taking HOURS…Nov 11 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] received my EAP !Pandaboard for !MeeGo and of course also !Fedora development. !ARMNov 11 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Addendum: New version of #Khweeteur in repositories is 0.0.42 #N900 #MaemoNov 11 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @harishpillay ?? The USA intervened massively (Hemingway was in), many were killed. Also Australians and Indians did.Nov 11 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @adrianseceleanu: pagina de media scrie ca RCS isi face televiziune generalistaNov 11 11:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Mark J Cox: Why Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 has a new package signing key http://bit.ly/cwpgBxNov 11 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EuroDroid: LG releases Android 2.1 update for its Optimus GT540 - http://bit.ly/cEPbdANov 11 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sysportal: A NetworkManager, az OpenVPN és a SELinux http://bit.ly/bNRkXLNov 11 11:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark J Cox  : Why Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 has a new package signing key .::. Size~: 9.63 KBNov 11 11:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LG releases Android 2.1 update for its Optimus GT540 »  Eurodroid .::. Size~: 23.66 KBNov 11 11:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Irinasandu: #Firefox 4 Beta 7 is here. Faster JS, better #fonts, faster graphics, faster video, UI improvements. http://firefox.com/betaNov 11 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 4 Beta .::. Size~: 24.43 KBNov 11 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Microsoft Future Goes Dark as Stock Dumped, #wp7 Fails, and Microsoft Sues #Linux Rivals http://ur.ly/svTKNov 11 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @harishpillay shouldn't it have been 11 minutes? :-)Nov 11 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Foss.in Pac-Man poster - http://is.gd/gVPFgNov 11 11:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsofts Future Goes Dark as Stock Dumped, Vista Phony 7 [sic] Fails, and Microsoft Sues Linux Rivals Instead | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.56 KBNov 11 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wintellect, @cmsj The self-appointed benevolent community for eternity, requests and requires that #ubuntu 11.10 be named Orly Owl !linuxNov 11 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A (Digital) Hymn to Eric Whitacre - http://bit.ly/cW2bMo a composer who makes his music freely available #copyrightNov 11 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @lxoliva i guess it should have been at 11:11:11 GMT 11.11.2010. Interesting for next year 11:11:11 GMT 11.11.11.Nov 11 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @planetfedora Mark J Cox: Why Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 has a new package signing key: Starting with Red Hat Enterprise Li... htt ...Nov 11 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Sweden, Monday morning about 10am, @wildcard working to remove non- !fs adverstisment commercials from public instutions websites !fsfeNov 11 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @thistleweb,my uncle tells story (probably made up) that in high school his friends shouting last name across hallways caused racial troubleNov 11 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @carlopiana I know that. However, the nations involved were essentially European. The 2nd war in the 20th century involved more nations.Nov 11 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @thistleweb, my last name being a homonym for a racial slur has always been tough for me. As a rule, I don't correct people who say "Kun".Nov 11 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn I can quite believe itNov 11 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @harishpillay it is a matter of measure. Yet it is not like the US MLB champs pompously called "World Series", is it? ;-)Nov 11 11:57
cubezzzI like the crushed by Linux pic :)Nov 11 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] once Mozilla Labs’ F1 supports custom services, it will be brilliant. But launching with *just* Twitter, Facebook & GMail? lacking.Nov 11 12:02
schestowitzcubezzz: the chess one?Nov 11 12:02
cubezzzyesNov 11 12:03
schestowitzI had to remove the BG, then add some pieces, it looked kind of right for the perception of LinuxNov 11 12:03
cubezzzare you allowed to use the Hulk picture though?Nov 11 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @carlopiana of course, the US has their own self-importance with the "world series" that has only US (and Canadian?) teams. Shallow indeed.Nov 11 12:04
schestowitzI'm doing a mono post at the momentNov 11 12:04
cubezzzah sureNov 11 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I have downloaded fedora 14 and #fedora 14 KDE spin, but I will go around with these & install on other people's PCs. Counts as 2 downloads.Nov 11 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] hoping @mozlabs can use host-meta for F1 services. Make sharing discovery standardised → ‘Add your Service: digg.com’ etcNov 11 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Feeling like [censored]. Bolzano at risk :-((Nov 11 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Christ Took 3 Days, the Web 3 Months | Epicenter | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/2bmciNov 11 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora is tactful enough to /NOT/ send machine details to #redhat (post installation), at least by default. Proprietarists don't even ask.Nov 11 12:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Christ Took 3 Days, the Web 3 Months | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 82.98 KBNov 11 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Next episode of !techbytes will come out tomorrow. We got many downloads this week and registered the show with some services.Nov 11 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @schestowitz It goes to the project (smolt database) if you want and not #RedHat as company. It is available to all as referenceNov 11 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] still have to do my questionnaire for #Fedora's #FAmSCo...Nov 11 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @PNL_Ro: Discuta LIVE cu prof. Andrei Marga, incepand cu ora 12.00, despre problemele din sistemul de educatie http://goo.gl/M6P12Nov 11 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] o.O why does uservoice.com need my postal address and birthdateNov 11 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ce solutii are guvernul din umbra al PNL pentru problemele din invatamant? .::. Size~: 35.19 KBNov 11 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @stirieuropafm: Şeful jandarmeriei Capitalei, demis http://bit.ly/adPzUvNov 11 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Linux: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 released! http://www.redhat.com/rhel/Nov 11 12:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Şeful jandarmeriei Capitalei, demis | EuropaFM | Stiri Interne .::. Size~: 24.88 KBNov 11 12:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: redhat.com | Enterprise Linux-Open Source Application for Servers and Desktops built on Linux .::. Size~: 23.6 KBNov 11 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot IT Story | Security App For the New German Personal ID Hacked http://ur1.ca/2bmf3Nov 11 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mehdi: What's New in #RedHat Enterprise #Linux 6 http://is.gd/gVGKJ #RHEL #gnuNov 11 12:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot IT Story | Security App For the New German Personal ID Hacked .::. Size~: 128.9 KBNov 11 12:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: ACTA will force your ISP to censor your work if someone lodges an unsupported trademark claim http://bit.ly/brLLGa what a messNov 11 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA will force your ISP to censor your work if someone lodges an unsupported trademark claim - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 29.15 KBNov 11 12:26
schestowitzoiaohm: http://techrights.org/2010/11/11/swpats-as-principal-route/#comment-103806Nov 11 12:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsofts Future Goes Dark as Stock Dumped, Vista Phony 7 [sic] Fails, and Microsoft Sues Linux Rivals Instead | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.47 KBNov 11 12:30
schestowitzMotorola might try to embargo Microsoft products nowNov 11 12:30
schestowitzThis is getting messyNov 11 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gbraad even better thenNov 11 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @faif !FaiFCast 0x02 w/ @kaz & @bkuhn is available: http://ur1.ca/2b24b They discuss #ST_TOS references in a court decision & some ! ...Nov 11 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Episode 0x02: The Needs of the Few - Free as in Freedom  - Free as in Freedom .::. Size~: 6.87 KBNov 11 12:32
oiaohmReally Motorola has no reason to stop.  schestowitzNov 11 12:35
schestowitzI hopwe soNov 11 12:35
schestowitzIf they can be the first to defeat anti-Android/FAT actionNov 11 12:36
schestowitzIf they surrender, then Microsoft moves on to Sony/EricssonNov 11 12:36
oiaohmNow here is the problem.Nov 11 12:36
schestowitzSony has even more patentsNov 11 12:36
oiaohmIf motorola wins against MS you can bet Sony and others will contract them to go after MS.Nov 11 12:36
oiaohmIe legal arm of motorola is a profit making department.Nov 11 12:37
oiaohmThis is why attacking motorola is the wrong company.Nov 11 12:37
oiaohmThey have every reason to want to win and win big.Nov 11 12:37
schestowitzMicrosoft applies pressure with another suitNov 11 12:38
schestowitzLike Apple and NokiaNov 11 12:38
oiaohmWe know MS has landed something that worries Motorola when another company enters the Suit.Nov 11 12:39
oiaohmMotorola does a lot of contract production for many other major hardware companies.Nov 11 12:39
oiaohmAnd when they are coming to Motorola to resuce MS found a weakness.Nov 11 12:40
oiaohmUntil then MS basically has nothing.Nov 11 12:40
oiaohmThat is the other problem Motorola has the means to truly fight this out to the end.Nov 11 12:40
oiaohmTaking on TomTom is like shotting fish in a barrel.   They have no option bar to give.Nov 11 12:41
oiaohmReally attacking Motorola is not much works than attack IBM or Intel and expecting to walk away in one piece.Nov 11 12:42
oiaohmworks/worseNov 11 12:42
schestowitzoiaohm: it was Motorola or SontNov 11 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Demanding Open Standards Support Is Registering A Preference http://bit.ly/91To7oNov 11 12:44
schestowitzAmong Android sellersNov 11 12:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Demanding Open Standards Support Is Registering A Preference | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 21.72 KBNov 11 12:44
schestowitzMicrosoft got K-Mita, Samsung, LG, HTC....Nov 11 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @harishpillay I meant 11 minutes of silence :-)Nov 11 12:46
oiaohmHTC did not fold they are still on fighting.Nov 11 12:46
oiaohmAnd HTC also sent MS on particular tech questions to Motorola since Motorola made the parts.Nov 11 12:47
schestowitz[12:46] <oiaohm> HTC did not fold they are still on fighting.Nov 11 12:49
schestowitzNot reallyNov 11 12:49
schestowitzJust with AppleNov 11 12:49
schestowitzThey pay Microsoft for AndroidNov 11 12:50
schestowitzWhich saddens me cause they do defend Android on one front, not on anotherNov 11 12:50
oiaohmThey paid for fatNov 11 12:50
schestowitzMaybe cause they also work with Microsoft and never with AppleNov 11 12:50
schestowitzoiaohm: how do you know?Nov 11 12:50
oiaohmThe ammount.Nov 11 12:50
schestowitzThe press release had ndaNov 11 12:50
schestowitzoiaohm: did it say it?Nov 11 12:50
schestowitzI can't recall such a thingNov 11 12:51
schestowitzJust TomTom said FATNov 11 12:51
oiaohmOver a particular ammount they would have to declare in stock exchange reporting.Nov 11 12:52
oiaohmSince they did hot have to declare the value must have been around the level for the FAT patent.Nov 11 12:52
oiaohmAnd not much higher.Nov 11 12:52
schestowitzbut that's not a press releaseNov 11 12:53
schestowitzYou said the press release mentioned "FAT" and not "Android" or "Linux"Nov 11 12:53
schestowitzIt's very importantNov 11 12:54
schestowitzFor example, LG said "Linux"Nov 11 12:54
schestowitzSamsung said something like "Linux-related products" IIRCNov 11 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay, today's #ConsoleKit bane: #qingy http://qingy.sourceforge.net/Nov 11 12:54
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oiaohmNotice trend here.Nov 11 12:54
schestowitz""Submitting hardware details via smolt is a a WONDERFUL idea, as a contribution for developing good free drivers...""Nov 11 12:55
schestowitzHehNov 11 12:55
schestowitzI'm getting replies to my dents via LinkedInNov 11 12:55
oiaohmAll companies are basically tell you the same thing.  schestowitzNov 11 12:55
schestowitzoiaohm: what trend?Nov 11 12:55
schestowitzAs in moving away from whole of Linux?Nov 11 12:55
oiaohmLinux Kernel basically.Nov 11 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @schestowitz http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/Nov 11 12:56
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oiaohmOnly Patents MS has in there that it can apply are FAT and the new FAT thing they created.  schestowitzNov 11 12:56
schestowitzYeah...Nov 11 12:56
schestowitzLet me dent itNov 11 12:56
schestowitzYou make a good pointNov 11 12:57
oiaohmBasically my comment they paid for fat is based of logic not documents.Nov 11 12:57
oiaohmThe only logic I could find to make all the answers of the companies paying NDA's add up.Nov 11 12:58
oiaohmCombind with the ammount paid.Nov 11 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] On a different machine, upgrade via update manager failed on Ubuntu 10.10. Stopped at CUPS (again) #WTF!Nov 11 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open Services Innovation webcast with Gary Hamel and Henry Chesbrough starts at 1:30 EST today. You can still register: http://ow.ly/384vcNov 11 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @carlopiana time to try #Fedora 14 ;-)Nov 11 13:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @jonobacon damnit, could you add #NSFW for short links like that please? not what I expected… or wanted in browsing history!Nov 11 13:04
amarsh04oiaohm, thanks again for your suggestion on the linux kernel pre-emption setting in .config for later than 2.6.36-git6 - the new kernels work fine with "voluntary kernel pre-emption"Nov 11 13:04
schestowitzoiaohm: ok, if you have more evidence, post here for future ref.Nov 11 13:04
oiaohmReally asking the question what those NDA really contain due to how little was paid for them is a valid thing to be asking.Nov 11 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The slides from my keynote in Rotterdam today at #opensource_2010 are online: http://bit.ly/d14Kl8Nov 11 13:07
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oiaohmamarsh04: No problems.  I just keep my ear to ground better than most.Nov 11 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @czajkowski: 50 students yesterday arrested over the violent protest and more injured at Millbank Towers - http://is.gd/gVWOaNov 11 13:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @pookito back in May, Google were talking about !Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) having #web‣m. No news so far, so maybe Honeycomb instead (3.x?)Nov 11 13:12
amarsh04oiaohm - I posted my findings to lkml but didn't get any further response - I'm just happy that problem was easily fixedNov 11 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I need an argument against antivirus software on a database server !Linux !Fedora !GNUNov 11 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @lxoliva, it was both #disturbing & #disgusting. I figured mentioning nearly puking covered the disgusting part all by itself. #Linux WHENCENov 11 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @orcmid Implementation as interoperable specification is unbearable externalization of technical debt. But nature won't be fooled.Nov 11 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I will in about 30 minutes begin what's likely to be 8 hours of #deposition by !GPL violators' lawyers. I am oddly looking forward to it.Nov 11 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EXCITING news! "EU patent scrapped" #swpats #patents #euNov 11 13:34
schestowitzamarsh04: oiaohm speaks to some major kernel devsNov 11 13:34
schestowitzoiaohm probably annoyed Linus too... :-/Nov 11 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @appelond how about the 30% miss rate, the fact that A/V is reactive not proactiveNov 11 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @appelond or that good security policies and proceedures based on defence in depth is more comprehensive then throwing A/V at a problemNov 11 13:39
oiaohmamarsh04: Over my years I have annoyed at some point about 50 percent of the subsystem maintainers of Linux.Nov 11 13:39
oiaohmSo far schestowitz I have not managed to annoy Linus yet.Nov 11 13:40
amarsh04hehehe oiaohm... I still haven't fathomed the logic in the eata driver for DPT SCSI controllers that requires me to have an /etc/modprobe.d/local file containing "alias pci:v00001044d0000A400* eata"Nov 11 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @appelond although A/V could be considered the last stage of a defense in depth plan...Nov 11 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @raycorrigan At EU summit on net neutrality. Can't access net with PC >>ha!Nov 11 13:42
oiaohmThat is a id issue amarsh04Nov 11 13:43
oiaohmBasically by default eata does not know DPT SCSI ID.Nov 11 13:43
oiaohmEven that it will drive it.Nov 11 13:43
oiaohmOppsNov 11 13:44
oiaohmPCI ID not SCSI IDNov 11 13:44
oiaohmAt least that is simpler than usb switching issues.  amarsh04Nov 11 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @schestowitz: a link would be nice ...Nov 11 13:46
oiaohmMy biggest pride comes from being the one to end the many years of arugements over how to do real-time scanning on Linux.Nov 11 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @appelond or the fact that A/V isnt designed to catch/prevent sql injection type attacks, nor brute force attacksNov 11 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "many members of the new Government, particularly the Chancellor, are keen supporters of open source software" - http://bit.ly/aDeXbn #ukNov 11 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @schestowitz Gee, look what I picked up:Nov 11 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @schestowitz https://twitter.com/#!/GladstoneGrantNov 11 13:47
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amarsh04true oiaohmNov 11 13:47
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oiaohmhttp://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/  If you have any usb switch mode devices.  amarsh04  This is a real life saver.Nov 11 13:49
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oiaohmThing to remember I have been using Linux at least part time since 1995  when full time in year 2000Nov 11 13:50
oiaohmI also was using BSD before 1995Nov 11 13:50
oiaohmSo I have a long long history using open source stuff.Nov 11 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn @fontana linked to !Linux WHENCE file; he calls it #suboptimal; I call it #disturbing. I puked in my mouth a bit when reading: ...Nov 11 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @zoobab: @VincentVQ Don't blame Italy, they were just defending fundamental rights. Language discrimination is forbidden by the ECHR, .Nov 11 13:52
oiaohmSo I just missed out on the start of Linux.  amarsh04Nov 11 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII How de Gucht's staff negotiates #ACTA - "hotel is in a quiet area, a 10 minute walk to the water..." http://ur.ly/sJTgNov 11 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @gbraad well, apparently Synaptic has automagically resolved everything. Works, don't fix it! ;-)Nov 11 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ruiseabra working on long post with ~10 external links.....Nov 11 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @carlopiana darn! at least you learned a wise lesson: "don't upgrade if it ain't broken" ;-)Nov 11 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @gbraad Yay! Though this time there was a security issue w/ the package too.Nov 11 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Changing Passwords - http://bit.ly/bxcML6 wise words from Uncle Brucie #security #passwordsNov 11 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @freemor Thank you for you response. Where do you stand on A/V on Linux Desktop systems?Nov 11 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Reinstalling my F14 system thanks to @mairin telling me that LVM on SSD is teh suck.Nov 11 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Announce: Shortcut Stash: app launcher, bookmark & folder opening widget http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65137 #maemoNov 11 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Thinking to start giving a training course in Advance JavaScript & HTML5 in Delhi ! #js #ELPA http://bit.ly/cLPMM3Nov 11 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] New blog post: ATM fail http://serkokatsikian.net/?p=463Nov 11 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Devel: locationd - event-based notification of location proximity http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=64681 #maemoNov 11 14:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Insert something amusing and witty about Tories and "broken Britain"Nov 11 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] man that last #criminalminds was insaneNov 11 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Announce: OSGB - show location in UK Ordnance Survey coordinates http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65436 #maemoNov 11 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Italian film producer Dino De Laurentiis dies: report - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101111/en_nm/us_delaurentiisNov 11 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open Services Innovation webcast with Gary Hamel and Henry Chesbrough starts at 1:30 EST today. You can still register: http://ow.ly/384vcNov 11 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open-Source Annotation Toolkit for Inline, Online Web Annotation - http://bit.ly/c48xqM "stand, and unfold yourself" #annotation #opensourceNov 11 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] How to join our chat on IRC during the webcast (or any time) http://ow.ly/388obNov 11 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mono Advocacy is Deluded, Avoids the Facts and Personally Attacks Critics Instead http://ur.ly/s8Kh #novell #swpatsNov 11 14:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] New blog post: ATM with Windows == fail http://serkokatsikian.net/?p=465Nov 11 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @khertan: #Khweeteur 0.0.42-1 Now available in #Extras-devel, speed improvement, gps for geoposition tweets and identi.ca oauth fixNov 11 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Video: FeedingIt RSS Reader, preview of the new #Qt interface, written in QML http://t.co/3NMCwWq #N900 #MaemoNov 11 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Hm. Will my phone work in #Chile? /cc @ignacioanibalNov 11 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo Intel to Launch MeeGo-based Software Shop in China - TMC Net http://dlvr.it/8NKPxNov 11 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Great advice. I wish my organization would follow it. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/11/changing_passwo.htmlNov 11 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 3 Brings New Stuff: It's been over a month since the release of openSUSE 11.4 M2, but th... http://bit.ly/cp7qc8Nov 11 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] ARM Mali-T604 Arrives, But With What Kind Of Driver?: ARM yesterday introduced the Mali-T604 graphics processor ... http://bit.ly/9qSDe0Nov 11 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "Google Calendar is temporarily unavailable. Please try back later. "Nov 11 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Microsoft Death Watch - Damage To The Ecosystem http://bit.ly/bQrC89Nov 11 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open-Source Annotation Toolkit for Inline, Online Web Annotation - http://bit.ly/c48xqM "stand, and unfold yourself" #annotation #opensourceNov 11 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] The lack of respect of referees is depressingNov 11 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @bkuhn Solely owned, one off piece of work, emailed as source, ready to compile, along with link to GPL licence.Nov 11 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @appelond although I have never installed A/V on any of my machines A/V does have uses like scanning incoming mail on an smtp server...Nov 11 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Buying Nvidia will get you busted by the feds http://ur1.ca/2bnrz #AMDNov 11 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @bkuhn Someone I know asked for a specific application and that's what she received. It was done gratis. No contract involvedNov 11 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @appelond but unser on a *nix system should have the properr restrictions and admins should know better..Nov 11 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @appelond so i see no need for it on most *nix machines. If machines are ...Nov 11 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Blazing fast #Firefox 4 beta 7 impresses http://goo.gl/ASuekNov 11 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @appelond internet facing an IDS and/or IPS is more important then A/VNov 11 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol, Phil Jupitus's Phantom Menace routine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usrCchrUC_k #NSFWNov 11 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Fedora 15 Has A Release Schedule, But Will It Be Met?: The Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) has app... http://bit.ly/bAK8NlNov 11 15:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Great. #DB refuses to let train wait for 30 secs, resulting in a 3-hour delay for me. @carlopiana: won't make it to dinner, sorry.Nov 11 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Are there any .mobi readers for the Linux desktop?Nov 11 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] @kirschner @samtuke @maelle @nicoulas: Go go! The #pdfreaders campaign team totally rocks. !fsfeNov 11 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @techglance: Jolibook is the official netbook of Jolicloud, coming this month? http://bit.ly/9OacMnNov 11 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unleashing the Power of Semantic Data - Today - http://bit.ly/9nNEVx 2-day w/shop in Amsterdam for #opensource Interactive Knowledge StackNov 11 15:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: #Linaro at work: porting, testing, and #Android http://goo.gl/ShyED !uNov 11 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: #netneutrality Know your power: if you are cut off from #Skype: vote with your feet and leave your #mobile providerNov 11 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: RT @pincette_biz: ODFToEPub 1.2 comes with a batch version. http://www.pincette.biz/pincette/news.xhtml#news6Nov 11 15:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: #netneutrality But for #competition to work in #Europe #transparency is essential for consumers to make informed decisionsNov 11 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @pookito !choqok can do thatNov 11 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @financiarul: Tribunalul Valcea: Reducerea cu 25% a veniturilor bugetarilor este ilegala http://bit.ly/aw0lhn #financiarulNov 11 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: RT @jaegerandi: Adrian announced version 2.1.2 of the #openSUSE build service http://bit.ly/bU4cwa #openSUSENov 11 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @themadhatteron: Microsoft Death Watch - Damage To The Ecosystem http://bit.ly/bQrC89Nov 11 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @pookito oh, you meat the microbloggin *plasmoid*, ok :DNov 11 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Linaro 10.11 Is Out Plus ARM Plans For The Future: Yesterday in the ARM world there was not only a major milesto... http://bit.ly/bQyMQ8Nov 11 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] RT @evan To my friends everywhere: data portability and federated social networks matter. End of line.Nov 11 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @karsten Neither will I, but will be there for late drinks...Nov 11 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Loving being told by all the folks with a vested interest in WS* that they are unbiased & I am biased. Still the same after a decade.Nov 11 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @johndrinkwater The Federation have a social network? Do the Ferenghi spam it with adverts for services?Nov 11 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @quimgil: RT @vivainio: Installing #meego #sdk (w/ MADDE) on my Lucid box with these instructions: http://goo.gl/tpu1qNov 11 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @karsten: @kirschner @samtuke @maelle @nicoulas: Go go! The #pdfreaders campaign team totally rocks. #fsfeNov 11 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] @webmink Ok, sounds good. You wouldn't happen to be stuck at Munich Hbf too, would you? It's mule trek across Alps from here on...Nov 11 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @nicoulas FSFE replies back to BSA's lobby letter to the European Commission, dismantling their arguments: http://link.fsfe.org/BZH18DNov 11 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] Note to self: never ever trust the bus signage in Harvard station...Nov 11 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @davidallengreen #TwitterJokeTrial Guilty. >>time to get shot of this petty, fearful lawNov 11 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Obama needs to outlaw terrorist organizations like the #TSA http://ur1.ca/2bog2Nov 11 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I hope by "publicly accessible" they mean with free and standards-conforming software http://ur1.ca/2bogaNov 11 16:16
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: THE ADVENT OF MANDATORY DATA ARCHIVING - Fairbairn - Evolution - Wiley Online Library .::. Size~: 24.07 KBNov 11 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Alright, time to pack up and face #DB once more. Won't let a measly mountain range stop me from speaking at #SFSCon in Bolzano tomorrow.Nov 11 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ten years of MPlayer http://lwn.net/Articles/414852/rssNov 11 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ten years of MPlayer [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.73 KBNov 11 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looking forward to receiving The Promise... :)Nov 11 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spanish fly in the ointment spoils EU patent dreams - http://bit.ly/cG8qba after bad news (#twitterjoketrial) some good news #eupatentsNov 11 16:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The IPKat: Spanish fly in the ointment spoils EU patent dreams .::. Size~: 88.18 KBNov 11 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @appelond why not just run clamav on it to shut people up? #isitworththefightNov 11 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Excited to see @robynbergeron joining #Red_Hat as !Fedora program mgr. And kudos to both Dennis and Jesse! http://ur1.ca/2bok8Nov 11 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone know the default site manager url for wikidot.com sites, I'm logged in but there's ZERO links to the admin sectionNov 11 16:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Changing of the seasons .::. Size~: 51.76 KBNov 11 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @stickster: Excited to see @robynbergeron joining #Red_Hat as #Fedora program mgr. And kudos to both Dennis and Jesse! http://ur1.ca/2bok8Nov 11 16:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Changing of the seasons .::. Size~: 51.76 KBNov 11 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Did you invent RSS? - http://bit.ly/c6liWe good post about the nature of #inventionNov 11 16:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Scripting News: Did you invent RSS? .::. Size~: 24.94 KBNov 11 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Marketing Conference Call starts in 15 minutes: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls !libo !tdfNov 11 16:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marketing/ConfCalls - The Document Foundation Wiki .::. Size~: 19.96 KBNov 11 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 0_o gnuplot: unable to open display ':0.0'; gnuplot: X11 aborted.Nov 11 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] headed early to class. things of the world need taking care off prontoNov 11 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Giving #banshee another tryNov 11 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Unknown Canadian Soldier - Performed For Rememberance Day http://bit.ly/93yLULNov 11 17:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Unknown Canadian Soldier  Performed For Rememberance Day .::. Size~: 104.24 KBNov 11 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes She went for dual boot option in the end so no refund due. It will be interesting to see which she uses most.Nov 11 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Starting in 1 hour: Open Services Innovation webcast with Henry Chesbrough + Gary Hamel (@profhamel) | reg: http://bit.ly/b4b8rSNov 11 17:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  .::. Size~: 32.68 KBNov 11 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] The worst part about a #deposition is everyone in the room knows how frequently you have to pee because you have to ask to go off th record.Nov 11 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I was talking how about how awesome it would be if it rained chicken tikki and my wife totally buzz killed it.Nov 11 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 4: HTML5 Forms http://mzl.la/ccMAJmNov 11 17:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Firefox 4: HTML5 Forms )        Mozilla Hacks  the Web developer blog   .::. Size~: 50.49 KBNov 11 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] posting from XOpupNov 11 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] Puppy #linux on the !olpc #XO rocksNov 11 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz did u solve X11 probNov 11 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Everyone keeps linking me to http://is.gd/gWvH4 - does that mean I am second-class bacon now?Nov 11 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I'm pretty tired of people justifying #patents so that the "companies can just get their cut" !fsf Those poor, poor billionaires!Nov 11 17:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Finally, Bacon You Can Cuddle .::. Size~: 84.02 KBNov 11 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 it seems as though octave does not truly close windows until I exit the program. Odd behaviour.Nov 11 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #ElReg on the BBC news due to their PARIS schemeNov 11 18:04
Diablo-D3http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/aPgtQ9XgurA/story01.htmNov 11 18:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google FeedBurner .::. Size~: 11.48 KBNov 11 18:05
Diablo-D3faaaaaailNov 11 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] In 25 minutes: Open Services Innovation webcast with Henry Chesbrough + Gary Hamel (@profhamel) | reg: http://bit.ly/b4b8rSNov 11 18:07
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roy__SLashdot picks up negative Microsoft news, toNov 11 18:08
roy__*too (And no way for Ballmer et al. to spin it)Nov 11 18:08
roy__THe thing about number, they're mathsNov 11 18:08
roy__Not a storyNov 11 18:08
roy__You can't spin them muchNov 11 18:08
MinceRsweaty doesn't pay them enough anymore?Nov 11 18:08
roy__Just tell some story (tale) around themNov 11 18:08
roy__If someone says, WP7 sucksNov 11 18:08
roy__Well, then it's not measuableNov 11 18:09
roy__But here you have data points to work with (cost, rival sales, shipping, etc.)Nov 11 18:09
roy__No bogus 'net stats'Nov 11 18:09
roy__Actual units soldNov 11 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Eww, #Gwibber spams me with all notices (via notification-daemon) when I start it upNov 11 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Also in the news, Nick Clegg admits he's an unprincipled blagardNov 11 18:09
roy__To people, not warehousesNov 11 18:09
*roy__ is now known as schestowitzNov 11 18:09
cubezzzslashdot runs microsoft ads sometimesNov 11 18:09
schestowitzIt has ads??!Nov 11 18:09
schestowitz"Nov 11 18:10
schestowitzDisable AdvertisingNov 11 18:10
schestowitzAs our way of thanking you for your positive contributions to Slashdot, you are eligible to disable advertising.Nov 11 18:10
schestowitzschestowitz (843559) Prefs xNov 11 18:10
cubezzzyeah I'm looking at one right now :)Nov 11 18:10
schestowitz    *Nov 11 18:10
schestowitz    * Karma: ExcellentNov 11 18:10
schestowitz"Nov 11 18:10
cubezzzit's a big donutNov 11 18:10
MinceRhttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865/Nov 11 18:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adblock Plus :: Add-ons for Firefox .::. Size~: 35.13 KBNov 11 18:11
MinceR(though some ads are disguised as posts and neither of these methods work against that)Nov 11 18:11
cubezzzI don't mind as long as it's not flash basedNov 11 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] zaraz będzie CIEMNO! #woodstockNov 11 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Anarchists are nutcasesNov 11 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Little irritant. You can speak to or converse with but not speak with (unless it is a duet) or converse to.Nov 11 18:12
MinceRbruce89 is a nutcaseNov 11 18:13
cubezzzis that bruce as in security guy bruce?Nov 11 18:13
MinceRi doubt itNov 11 18:13
MinceRno, he isn'tNov 11 18:14
MinceRif you mean Bruce SchneierNov 11 18:14
cubezzzyesNov 11 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fasten Your Seatbelts – !Firefox 4 Beta adds new JavaScript power and faster graphics http://ur.ly/skZm http://ur.ly/sEZmNov 11 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kudos to #redhat for making just ogg versions available @ http://ur.ly/sUNB !playoggNov 11 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Seeing David Cameron attempt to talk about football makes me hate him even moreNov 11 18:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Fasten Your Seatbelts  Firefox 4 Beta adds new JavaScript power and faster graphics :: The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 68.67 KBNov 11 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] X.Org GSoC 2010 With KMS, Cairo, Etc. What Was Done?: Two days ago there were some ATI R300 GLSL compiler optimi... http://bit.ly/9SOd8aNov 11 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Two Features #Wayland Will Have That X Doesn't http://ur.ly/sBmV fascinating. #graphicsNov 11 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Making your add-on compatible with Firefox 4 http://bit.ly/91TvdrNov 11 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] ok lets see if this is nailed down nowNov 11 18:22
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.19 KBNov 11 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Devel: Linaro 10.11 released http://is.gd/gWwKG #maemoNov 11 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @smokku: I've favourited a YouTube video -- MeeGo Tablet on Intel Moorestown - Close-up Demo http://youtu.be/iVIKYF7MOzU?aNov 11 18:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - MeeGo Tablet on Intel Moorestown - Close-up Demo   .::. Size~: 141.28 KBNov 11 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @bruce89 authoritarians can be nutcases too... lots of examples there.Nov 11 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] Love my #XO !olpcNov 11 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] The page for #FUDCon in Panama 2011 is now up -- with dozens of signups already! http://ur1.ca/2bpnaNov 11 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz Why would it surprise ppl that #Wayland may have capabilities beyond #X11? Re-architecting can have huge payoff.Nov 11 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FUDCon:Panama 2011 - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 43.15 KBNov 11 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @schestowitz: hah, true enoughtNov 11 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @schestowitz: yes, true enoughNov 11 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 nvidia is not ready for it (they are **********!) and there's room for bugs and incompatibilities at firstNov 11 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 what distro are you on?Nov 11 18:29
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah that wayland thing,  I thought about idneticing that or whatever, after reading, but not read that yet evenNov 11 18:32
sebsebsebwayland this that and the other at the momentNov 11 18:32
sebsebsebwayland hype hmmNov 11 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open Services Innovation webcast starting now | http://bit.ly/a3FJGQ #opensourceNov 11 18:32
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schestowitzsebsebseb: it's importantNov 11 18:33
sebsebsebmaybe, butNov 11 18:33
sebsebsebdistros won't be doing it by default for another two years or so I guessNov 11 18:33
sebsebseband xorg can run undeneath it anyway, for those propritary Nivida drivers for exampleNov 11 18:33
sebsebsebso I am not worried about waylandNov 11 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Some git on the news said that we all put people in harm's way in Iraq. We most certainly did not, the idiotic politicians didNov 11 18:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: I am a little worried about Unity at the moment though,  and how that will effect Desktop Linux as a wholeNov 11 18:35
schestowitzyou don't have to use unityNov 11 18:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: well yesNov 11 18:36
sebsebseb,butNov 11 18:36
sebsebsebit may become really popularNov 11 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz #Gentoo since ~2002.Nov 11 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @bruce89 remember not to be deceived through stereotypes like men in black hoods smashing police cars; anarchic types sometimes wear suitsNov 11 18:36
sebsebsebit may become the like  Desktop Linux interface standardNov 11 18:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: and Canonical as an upstream for the most popular Desktop Linux interface, doesn't sound good to meNov 11 18:36
schestowitz"�!Linux ☛ open source drivers for #Xbox ☛ #Kinect ☛ released http://ur.ly/t0gb Heh. #Microsoft ☛ can't sell at a loss anymore. Hilarity ensues.���schestowitz - 7 mins ago - Choqok��"Nov 11 18:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux open source drivers for Xbox Kinect released | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 125.88 KBNov 11 18:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: and distros are meant to be using Gnome Shell really, not UnityNov 11 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @bruce89 see for example http://ur.ly/sTL3Nov 11 18:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Noam Chomsky - Clear Explanation Of Anarchist Thought - 1/5   .::. Size~: 116.87 KBNov 11 18:37
sebsebsebhowever Gnome Shell  doesn't really have  proper consumer features at the moment, where as Unity does, and yep new users want a load of features in  their OS many of themNov 11 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] If you are micro blogging on the Open Your World webcast for Open Services Innovation from opensource.com, use the hashtag #oywfNov 11 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @schestowitz: I'll extend my opinion to everyone, everyone is a nutcase in one way or anotherNov 11 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TSA "randomly" picks the hottest girl in line for a porn scan, she refuses, then questions getting molested... http://ur.ly/sSsjNov 11 18:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA "randomly" picks the hottest girl in line for a porn scan, she refuses, then questions getting molested and ends up getting cuffed to a chair and having her plane ticket ripped in half [Radio Interview] : reddit.com .::. Size~: 505.24 KBNov 11 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @schestowitz and there was much rejoicing!Nov 11 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC Talks With: Robert Cook-Deegan of Center for Genomics @ Duke on challenge & promise of genomic research http://bit.ly/9p0bu9Nov 11 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz #TSA "randomly" picks girl 4 pr0n scan, she refuses,questions molestation,gets cuffed 2chair,tkt ripped up http://ur.ly/sSsjNov 11 18:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   CC Talks With: Robert Cook-Deegan of the Center for Genomics at Duke - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 16.26 KBNov 11 18:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA "randomly" picks the hottest girl in line for a porn scan, she refuses, then questions getting molested and ends up getting cuffed to a chair and having her plane ticket ripped in half [Radio Interview] : reddit.com .::. Size~: 506.62 KBNov 11 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Apparently I'm boring, but I shall continue denting in the same veinNov 11 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Henry Chesbrough: When we use others ideas - don't forget to say thank you #sharing #giftgiving #oywfNov 11 18:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: not that many blueprints for 11.04Nov 11 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #Gwibber doesn't do conversations and the notifications are far too shortNov 11 18:49
schestowitzThe TSA  story goes viral at the moment in twitterNov 11 18:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: what is TSA?Nov 11 18:50
schestowitzThe TsarNov 11 18:50
MinceR:>Nov 11 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A: What's the difference between TSA gate & pr0n studio? B: TSA legally allowed to have girls chained to chairs. http://vimeo.com/16710243Nov 11 18:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA agents singled Meg McLain out for special treatment. They yelled at her, cuffed her to a chair, ripped up her ticket and cal on Vimeo .::. Size~: 53.05 KBNov 11 18:54
Diablo-D3lol royNov 11 18:55
Diablo-D3I already dented that on youtubeNov 11 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Henry Chesbrough: innovation in products != (does not equal) innovation in services #oywfNov 11 18:56
draoanDiablo-D3: so what?Nov 11 18:56
Diablo-D3he could have redented :<Nov 11 18:56
sebsebseboh man lol @ a message I got on identicaNov 11 18:57
sebsebsebthinking at the moment if I should reply to it or not, and if so how I will do itNov 11 18:58
bruce89you don't need to think that so much about dentsNov 11 18:58
bruce89just say what you want and don't give a damn about what others think (I learnt the hard way)Nov 11 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Schneier helps create new #TSA logos http://ur.ly/slKU http://ur.ly/sPR8 http://ur.ly/snjUNov 11 18:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: TSA Logo Contest .::. Size~: 100.33 KBNov 11 18:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: TSA Logo Contest Winner .::. Size~: 33.86 KBNov 11 18:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: TSA Logo Contest Finalists .::. Size~: 179.42 KBNov 11 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People don't travel on planes so often. Let's have nudie scanners in bus, subway, train, and office building too? #tsa #paranoia vs #libertyNov 11 19:01
schestowitzbruce89: :-)Nov 11 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who criticise the #TSA are obviously TERROR~1 in disguise. People report all of them to the police. ;-)Nov 11 19:02
schestowitzbruce89: just wanted to send back quick responseNov 11 19:02
schestowitzIt's eastNov 11 19:02
schestowitzIt's easyNov 11 19:02
bruce89word of advice : don't dent about footballNov 11 19:03
Diablo-D3http://www.presentcat.com/Nov 11 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting application/x-shockwave-flash type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 11 19:03
*MinceR waves to the nutcaseNov 11 19:03
MinceR;)Nov 11 19:03
Diablo-D3what the fuckNov 11 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Robert Cook-Deegan of the Center for Genomics at Duke - http://bit.ly/dmlAqW "We need Creative Commons" #cc #genomicsNov 11 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz A: What's the difference between TSA gate & pr0n studio? B: TSA legally allowed to have girls chained to chairs. http:/ ...Nov 11 19:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   CC Talks With: Robert Cook-Deegan of the Center for Genomics at Duke - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 16.26 KBNov 11 19:04
schestowitzbruce89: depends who follows youNov 11 19:04
bruce89well indeed, but not the best idea to dent during the world cup about england when I'm ScottishNov 11 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] cops cordoned of the street on part of my bus route to school. looked like a movie set.Nov 11 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] *Highly* disturbing. cue "In Soviet USA" jokes. http://ur1.ca/2bog2Nov 11 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Henry Chesbrough: @Amazon is creating economies of scope through open services #onestopshop #oywfNov 11 19:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Meg McLain Singled out by the TSA, Cuffed to a Chair, Her Ticket Ripped up   .::. Size~: 135.31 KBNov 11 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People happy to move to #libreffice http://ur.ly/stPi vote now http://ur.ly/sTeQ escaping #scoracleNov 11 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @schestowitz: A: What's the difference between TSA gate & pr0n studio? B: TSA legally can chain girls to chairs. http://ur1.ca/2bq0cNov 11 19:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 30.48 KBNov 11 19:07
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA agents singled Meg McLain out for special treatment. They yelled at her, cuffed her to a chair, ripped up her ticket and cal on Vimeo .::. Size~: 53.05 KBNov 11 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: People happy to move to #libreffice http://ur.ly/stPi vote now http://ur.ly/sTeQ escaping #scoracleNov 11 19:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 30.48 KBNov 11 19:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 31.2 KBNov 11 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For Red Hat's Matthew Szulik a 'very humbling honor' http://ur.ly/t1Ol #redhatNov 11 19:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: For Red Hat's Matthew Szulik a 'very humbling honor' :: Editor’s Blog at Local Tech Wire .::. Size~: 23.4 KBNov 11 19:12
schestowitzFlamer: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372489,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03079TX1K0000584Nov 11 19:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle:         Google's Inevitable Ruin Begins | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com     .::. Size~: 80.6 KBNov 11 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reviewed: #Chakra 0.3 beta 3 (Ashoc) !KDE 4.5.3 Preview http://ur.ly/scV7Nov 11 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Big changes are afoot. A fact gone unnoticed by our brave podcasters in Season 2, Episode 21: http://bit.ly/9jP9geNov 11 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Henry Chesbrough: The El Bulli platform is changing taste sensations at the molecular level #food #oywfNov 11 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reviewed: Chakra 0.3 beta 3 (Ashoc) KDE 4.5.3 Preview | Linux Critic - Linux News, Reviews, Articles and More. .::. Size~: 55.59 KBNov 11 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Podcast Season 2 Episode 21 | TuxRadar Linux .::. Size~: 16.34 KBNov 11 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Fedora 13 KDE Snapshot 07.08.2010 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://www.flickr.com/photos/crysisgod/4868426156/Nov 11 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 13 KDE Snapshot 07.08.2010 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 78.97 KBNov 11 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Henry Chesbrough: Open services can be a source of new value creation @hackmanagement #oywfNov 11 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kno, a Linux-based Tablet Computer/Digital Textbook for Students http://ur.ly/sxu0 dual-head makes it tempting. !gnu !linux #knoNov 11 19:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kno, a Linux-based Tablet Computer/Digital Textbook for Students | TechSource .::. Size~: 94.01 KBNov 11 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Crunchbang Statler | Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://www.flickr.com/photos/36706201@N05/5001171403/Nov 11 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Firefox 4 gets much, much faster http://ur.ly/sO2r http://ur.ly/sf09Nov 11 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Adam Young: Announcing #FreeIPA v2 Server Alpha 5 Release. http://bit.ly/dyKKRINov 11 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Q&A with Henry Chesbrough on opensource.com webcast: How do I re-train my boss? @hackmanagement #innovation #oywfNov 11 19:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: People happy to move to #libreffice http://ur.ly/stPi vote now http://ur.ly/sTeQ escaping #scoracleNov 11 19:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozillanews: Making your add-on compatible with #Firefox 4 http://ff.im/-tzDKl #mozilla #ieNov 11 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #Firefox 4 gets much, much faster http://ur.ly/sO2r http://ur.ly/sf09Nov 11 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Files Sizzling Answer to Oracle's Amended Complaint and its Opposition to Motion to Dismiss - http://bit.ly/ba4yD0 go, #Google, goNov 11 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rockyourfirefox: How will you watch weather built into your browser? Check out another choice: http://bit.ly/FrCstFx #mozilla #ieNov 11 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Kudos to #redhat for making just #ogg versions available @ http://ur.ly/sUNB #playoggNov 11 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @android1nfo: Google Instant available on #Android and #iPhone http://bit.ly/aa7rMwNov 11 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @android1nfo: #Samsung drips #Froyo on #Galaxy S phones http://bit.ly/9Ixauy #androidNov 11 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @DeviceGuru: #Android phone solves #Rubik’s cube in 12.5 seconds: http://bit.ly/cxEksONov 11 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @lamm: Dear fellow citizens, supporting candidates who openly oppose war is a great way to thank me. Sincerely, a US army veteran.Nov 11 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Recap: Open Services Innovation webcast with Gary Hamel and Henry Chesbrough http://ow.ly/38m6RNov 11 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What a great webcast on Open Innovation Services today. We're working on the recap now. Thanks @hackmanagement for the great insight.Nov 11 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google releases open source data cleanser | Data Management (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/ddUkDDNov 11 19:41
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/58422670 "http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/from-stability-comes-stagnation-42458"Nov 11 19:50
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schestowitz"Looks cool. I've been pretty happy with my #Android ☛ !Linux ☛ based Entourage Edge http://www.entourageedge.com"Nov 11 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #PoliceState kidnaps child then takes 5 days to admit mistake over test saying Mother took heroin http://ur1.ca/2bqd2Nov 11 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 Your messages on here I don't tend to find boring.Nov 11 19:51
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schestowitz"is compilation the problem with !firefox on Gnu/Linux or is it code optimization?"http://identi.ca/conversation/57882411#notice-58423209Nov 11 19:53
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schestowitzDoes anyone know?Nov 11 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Lansarea #Windows Phone 7 a adus vânzări mult sub așteptări http://is.gd/gWGNU #microsoft #android #wp7 #romaniaNov 11 19:54
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schestowitzI can't recall now. It was debated about 2 years ago when someone showed that wine-ing firefox.exe was faster than firefox-binNov 11 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @sebsebseb: just you wait until I start with the Scotland v. New Zealand gameNov 11 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Home "printing" of tools & toys is coming; we should be prepared for opposition, notes @arstechnica & @publicknowledge https://eff.org/r.1udNov 11 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How to Add Google Calendar to Your iPad (Gils): http://bit.ly/a5fPlQNov 11 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Update: a donor just pledged to match new donations! Donate to EFF now through #Paypal to double your impact. https://eff.org/r.t9UNov 11 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/414924/rssNov 11 19:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality with 191 dents!Nov 11 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jonobacon you silly boy. wishing for a constructive criticism of one of the community's most visible prjects. have some milk and cookies :)Nov 11 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #identicurse0.2.1 crashes when i try to switch to input mode. !identicurseNov 11 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @rysiek LOL! wise words, my friend. :-)Nov 11 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff Home "printing" of tools & toys is coming; we should be prepared for opposition, notes @arstechnica & @publicknowledge eff.org/r.1udNov 11 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Update: a donor just pledged to match new donations! Donate to EFF now through #Paypal to double your impact. https://eff.org/r.t9UNov 11 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] "Supper" is a word that I'd banNov 11 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] TSA's new book for kids: "My First Cavity Search" http://ur1.ca/2bqigNov 11 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Why is "scallop" mis-spoke as "skollop"?Nov 11 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] ewww that thing installed Mono. I feel soiled.Nov 11 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hmm when will I replace my install of #fedora 14 with #pclos so that I can try it out properly before alpha 1's of #ubuntu 11.04 and #mageiaNov 11 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] if (is_null($this->getMeaning())) { echo "Oh, vienna!"; } ...// Geez, too much PHP methinks.Nov 11 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In Dialysis, Life-Saving Care at Great Risk and Cost - http://bit.ly/9Co9C1 fine, indepth #journalism from #propublica #dialysisNov 11 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @jezra what did?Nov 11 20:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Dialysis, Life-Saving Care at Great Risk and Cost - ProPublica .::. Size~: 171.86 KBNov 11 20:07
sebsebsebI wonder if thats the first message exactly the same, that I  then deleted, since was messing around a bit really,  or if its the re post I just didNov 11 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] most audio players tripping on my netbook. #moc rocking cool though. #sabayonNov 11 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @wildcard Ubuntu. Damn, this is really making me appreciate building up a system to my own personal specs.Nov 11 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] TSA's new book for kids: "My First Cavity Search" - http://bit.ly/dqnH7m too good, too good #tsaNov 11 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @sebsebseb: why must you replace #Fedora 14?Nov 11 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @jezra ah, yeah, whenever I install Ubuntu, aptitude purge libmono is one of the first commands I issueNov 11 20:11
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bruce89that would need to be apt-get install aptitude && aptitude purge libmono nowNov 11 20:11
MinceRlol @ new TSA bookNov 11 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The 'Top 10' Office Email That's Scandalizing Ireland (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/dueAyrNov 11 20:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The 'Top 10' Office Email That's Scandalizing Ireland .::. Size~: 83.61 KBNov 11 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @bdogg64: Exclusive : Linpus Multi Touch Edition Based On MeeGo Launching At MDC http://bit.ly/ctolyLNov 11 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FOSSmaniac Fedora 14 + KDE is way way better than Kubuntu #Fedora #laughlin #kubuntu #lovin'it > still evaluating it hereNov 11 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @wildcard performing the purge now. Wow, that's a lot of shit to install just for tomboy.Nov 11 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @jezra isn't it for that f-spot shit (among others) as well?Nov 11 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rsandu Shiny #open source software for the next generation in schools http://is.gd/gRkql #gnu #linuxNov 11 20:27
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schestowitzKno: "@edythemighty @schestowitz And 6hr battery life? That's less than a school day..."Nov 11 20:29
schestowitzMehNov 11 20:29
schestowitz;/Nov 11 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @richslxh Debian 6.0 Beta installer USB stick files !debian !linux #pendrive http://ur1.ca/2az3z > http://ur.ly/tmmkNov 11 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Wow "I use these (Almonds) to boost the almondiness", I never knew that #CrapCookingpProgrammesNov 11 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @wildcard Nope. 10.10 has Shotwell and not f-spot.Nov 11 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cameron does not agree with Bush that waterboarding saved lives, also says that torture is wrong and leads to unreliable information.Nov 11 20:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Studenten Net Twente - Index of /debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ .::. Size~: 3.2 KBNov 11 20:29
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schestowitzMore n Firfox speed in GNU LINUX; http://identi.ca/conversation/57882411#notice-58423745 "@edythemighty @schestowitz And 6hr battery life? That's less than a school day..."Nov 11 20:30
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schestowitz"anyway, !Firefox ☛ is really fast now and still the most versatile browser IMO. So I dont care for 1/100 seconds!"Nov 11 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @satipera: Cameron does not agree with Bush that waterboarding saved lives, also says that torture is wrong and leads to unreliable ...Nov 11 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 Not happy enough with #fedora since problems I have with it. A part of me wants to try out #pclos on real hardware not just a vm.Nov 11 20:34
schestowitz-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Best OS uses: !Linux, #Mac, #Win, !Android !comedian #geek #humour http://ur1.ca/2b0djNov 11 20:35
schestowitz:/Nov 11 20:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @jezra ah :) sooo... the entire libmono thingy for just one app, when gnote is readily available using a more common lib?Nov 11 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @sebsebseb: problems such as?Nov 11 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @lamm: HP pays millions to settle school bribery charges http://ur1.ca/2bqpaNov 11 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @jezra just makes me even more glad that I moved to #Arch :DNov 11 20:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Compiz Unity arrives in a PPA tomorrow - http://is.gd/gWKsY - bring it! #ubuntu #unityNov 11 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Daydreaming Diminishes Happiness (Scientific American): http://bit.ly/dntnIINov 11 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Chinese Content Bonanza!- http://bit.ly/cRtEMA interesting comment about "liberal copyright law enforcement" #china #copyrightNov 11 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @maloki: RT @kirschner #flattr or donate for #fsfe 's #pdfreaders.org so we get the 1600 EUR to stamp out the adds http://ur1.ca/1lsxr #fsNov 11 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Qt Mobility 1.1.0 Released http://ur.ly/tslh via @meegoportalNov 11 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Uh I told you about that already on IRC, but the kernel issues and errors when trying to install Virtualbox from the repos.Nov 11 20:42
bruce89sebsebseb: you forgot the @bruce89Nov 11 20:43
bruce89also, virtualbox is not in the repositoriesNov 11 20:43
sebsebsebbruce89: yep just put it inNov 11 20:43
bruce89that's what the reply button is dorNov 11 20:44
sebsebsebhmm will the bot show the other message or notNov 11 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 Uh I told you about that already on IRC, but the kernel issues and errors when trying to install Virtualbox from the repos.Nov 11 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @harishpillay Bell System Technical Journal from 1922-1983 now online with downloadable PDFs of all articles http://bstj.bell-labs.com/Nov 11 20:44
sebsebsebyep I useualy use the reply button I thinkNov 11 20:44
sebsebsebbruce89: anyway reply there I guess since doing it thereNov 11 20:44
bruce89anyway, what kernel issueNov 11 20:44
sebsebsebbruce89: or hereNov 11 20:45
sebsebsebI told you already the NividaNov 11 20:45
sebsebsebissuesNov 11 20:45
sebsebsebeffecting some of the kernels, after removing propritary Nivida driverNov 11 20:45
sebsebseband so now some of the kernels Fedora won't even boot up properly from GrubNov 11 20:45
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bruce89also, see https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1423Nov 11 20:46
sebsebsebwell I guess I meant rpmfusionNov 11 20:46
sebsebsebwhen I said reposNov 11 20:46
bruce89anyway, you should use virt-manager insteadNov 11 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Jon Stewart ripping the piss out of Liz Windsor :)Nov 11 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Hits the Streets http://bit.ly/bBBlH2 #linux #redhatNov 11 20:51
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sebsebsebbruce89: uhmmNov 11 20:53
sebsebsebbruce89: if I remember correctly thats the one for KVMNov 11 20:53
bruce89it is indeedNov 11 20:53
sebsebseband this computer can't do hardware virtulisationNov 11 20:53
sebsebsebso thats outNov 11 20:53
bruce89aha, sorrrytNov 11 20:54
bruce89to be honest, I don't do much virtualisationNov 11 20:54
sebsebsebyeah I knowNov 11 20:54
sebsebsebbruce89: also Fedora is more of a developers and such distro, and thats not meNov 11 20:54
bruce89I'm not a developerNov 11 20:55
bruce89they are moving its focus I believe these daysNov 11 20:55
sebsebsebin fact I read some article not that long ago, that basically said,  that they want people who contribute to use Fedora, and thats it basicallyNov 11 20:55
sebsebsebbruce89: hopefuly I can virtualbox Unity compiz okNov 11 20:56
sebsebsebsince don't really want that stuff installed for real :)Nov 11 20:56
bruce89eww, that's 3 words in a row I don't likeNov 11 20:56
sebsebsebbruce89: heh I guessNov 11 20:56
sebsebsebyeah hehNov 11 20:56
sebsebsebright well as I told you before I talked to some guy not that long ago on IRC, who said he was a compiz developer and that he used ArchLinux, and he didn't seem happy that Ubuntu would be using compiz instead for itNov 11 20:57
schestowitz[20:51] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Hits the StreetsNov 11 20:57
schestowitzWith the foreclosures and all "Hits the Streets" is not a good phrase to use..Nov 11 20:57
bruce89have you tried Arch, I liked itNov 11 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Alright, going to begin my day off now, at 12.55pm. Top Gear and dishes. It's a rock and roll lifestyle, I tell ya.Nov 11 20:57
sebsebsebbruce89: yeah nice one Compiz, now your being used so that Ubuntu can do more non standard stuff, congratulations, well doneNov 11 20:58
sebsebseband that was obviously sarcasm :)Nov 11 20:58
sebsebsebaltough its true, Compiz is being used so they can do non standard stuffNov 11 20:58
bruce89well, I don't really understand their reasoningNov 11 20:59
sebsebseband if it becomes most used desktop interface, that doesn't mean its a proper standard I guessNov 11 20:59
bruce89mind you, that applies to a lot of the stuff they have done over the last 2 yearsNov 11 20:59
sebsebsebbruce89: well we got someone in here at the moment, who can sort of explain itNov 11 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @osamak yes, @lessig calls the system "GNU/Linux" on many occasions. Power to him...Nov 11 20:59
bruce89stop highlighting meNov 11 20:59
bruce89to be honest, they can do what they like, but I don't understand itNov 11 21:00
schestowitzsebsebseb overhighlights ;-)Nov 11 21:00
bruce89used to being in #ubuntu I supposeNov 11 21:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: schestowitz schestowitz schestowitz  (ok it only works once to high light like this, but you get the idea, and I would be a bit silly to flood the channel with them per line)  over high lightsNov 11 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Mark Cox: Why RHEL6 has a new package signing key - http://is.gd/gWMluNov 11 21:01
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sebsebsebbruce89: who me?Nov 11 21:01
sebsebsebwell yeahNov 11 21:01
*bruce89 sighsNov 11 21:01
cubezzzhehNov 11 21:01
sebsebseband now I haven't been there since the 3rd or somethingNov 11 21:01
sebsebsebso far so good :)Nov 11 21:01
sebsebsebI don't want to be helping people with a distro, that well at least in the wider Linux community and such, is bound to be going even more down hill,  with this Unity by defaultNov 11 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink UCSF scientists - whole body scanner physics needs urgent research as dose is skin, not whole-body-delivered: http://n.pr/bHT3d8Nov 11 21:02
sebsebseband a distro that may lock people in to Unity as well ( altough according to ThistleWeb  vender lock in is file formats only )Nov 11 21:03
bruce89of course it isNov 11 21:03
sebsebsebvender lock in is only file formats?Nov 11 21:03
bruce89although I suppose UI lock in is a lesser evilNov 11 21:03
schestowitzhabitual lockin is a different thingNov 11 21:03
schestowitzLockin usually means dataNov 11 21:03
sebsebsebI belive the wikipedia page says its more than just file formats,   been quite a while since I went on that last timeNov 11 21:03
bruce89I mean, I'm GNOME locked by that logicNov 11 21:03
ThistleWebwell that's us toldNov 11 21:03
ThistleWebif wikipedia says it's so, then it must fucking be soNov 11 21:04
schestowitzlockin can also be comp. architectureNov 11 21:04
ThistleWeball hail the mighty all knowking wikiNov 11 21:04
sebsebsebThistleWeb: heh I know where your comimg from, since wikipedia is known to have bad info  quite a lot of the timeNov 11 21:04
schestowitzThistleWeb: yeahNov 11 21:04
bruce89it's just being used to a UI, not lockingNov 11 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Compiz-based Unity coming to PPA tomorrow http://ur1.ca/2bqyl !ubuntu #unity #compizNov 11 21:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Compiz-based Unity coming to PPA tomorrow .::. Size~: 45.21 KBNov 11 21:04
schestowitzThistleWeb: "give me 5 minutes... then check wikipedia"Nov 11 21:04
ThistleWebif someone put it on a wiki page it must be trueNov 11 21:04
schestowitzTruer than most thingsNov 11 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb .. plenty of peeps outside the UK value the "integrity" of the BBC and whatever it spews out as "public service broadcasting"Nov 11 21:06
ThistleWebschestowitz: I just got that, lolNov 11 21:06
sebsebsebbruce89: right, but if Unity becomes the number one most used Desktop Linux UI,  with well much more  users than Ubuntu currently has,  then aren't those users pretty much vender locked in to that UI, or whatever you want to call it?Nov 11 21:06
schestowitzOther sources may not be more reliableNov 11 21:06
sebsebsebpeopel trust the BBCNov 11 21:06
ThistleWebno, people often switched to linux from either windows or osxNov 11 21:06
sebsebsebThistleWeb: yep and so they are used to haveing OS features, something that Gnome Shell currently lacks compared to UnityNov 11 21:07
ThistleWebwhich means they already made the mental shift from one UI to anotherNov 11 21:07
cubezzzwhat about all my super-thick X manuals?Nov 11 21:07
schestowitzsebsebseb: peopel->penelope?Nov 11 21:07
ThistleWebso switching to a different one again is much less of an issueNov 11 21:07
cubezzzthey'll all be wastedNov 11 21:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: no it was a typo I wanted peopleNov 11 21:07
bruce89unity by definition can't be #1 UINov 11 21:07
sebsebsebbruce89: no?Nov 11 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] My #deposition today, regarding !Conservancy !GPL litigation, was shorter than I expected. I don't know if it's released publicly by Court.Nov 11 21:07
schestowitznew #1 bugNov 11 21:07
bruce89because it is Ubuntu onlyNov 11 21:07
bruce89and the other distros added together are much bigger than ubuntuNov 11 21:08
sebsebsebexcept other distros can probably repo itNov 11 21:08
bruce89not without massive patchingNov 11 21:08
cubezzzdo you know what percentage of Linux is Ubuntu?Nov 11 21:08
sebsebsebyeah you said about that before, but are you sure?Nov 11 21:08
sebsebsebthat it would require loads of patching?Nov 11 21:08
bruce89yes I amNov 11 21:08
bruce89did you read that bug I linked to?Nov 11 21:08
sebsebsebalso they would have to use or get rid of zeitgest for exampleNov 11 21:09
bruce89https://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/3685Nov 11 21:09
sebsebsebbruce89: no I didn't read the bugNov 11 21:09
bruce89to be exact, https://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/3685#comment:3Nov 11 21:09
sebsebsebwell if Unity is going to be Ubuntu onlyNov 11 21:09
sebsebsebeven more of a reason not to support it?Nov 11 21:09
schestowitz[21:08] <cubezzz> do you know what percentage of Linux is Ubuntu?Nov 11 21:09
schestowitzBfore or after unity? :-Nov 11 21:09
sebsebsebschestowitz: hehNov 11 21:10
cubezzzeither, bothNov 11 21:10
schestowitzLike 60% on desktop?Nov 11 21:10
sebsebsebthere are probably about three million Ubuntu users?Nov 11 21:10
bruce89those numbers may be differentNov 11 21:10
sebsebsebon desktop or netbooksNov 11 21:10
schestowitzBut GOOGLE will inherit a lot of itNov 11 21:10
schestowitzsebsebseb: and tabletsNov 11 21:10
schestowitzPhones have specs close to some old netbooksNov 11 21:11
ThistleWebsebsebseb: are you forgetting that if only ubuntu has unity, they need to maintain and develop it on their own, with their own resources?Nov 11 21:11
sebsebsebThistleWeb: of course, but they can do that, and still take the rest of Gnome 3 for the backendNov 11 21:11
schestowitzUbunityNov 11 21:11
bruce89thank you ThistleWebNov 11 21:11
sebsebsebThistleWeb: well the Gnome 3 stuff that they want I meanNov 11 21:11
ThistleWebso how fast or well does it develop? compared to most other gnome distros heading to gnome shell and sharing the loadNov 11 21:11
sebsebsebThistleWeb: also if the Canonical goal works out  gaining the masses, they will have enough money to,  fork the whole of Gnome if they really wantNov 11 21:12
ThistleWebmoney from where?Nov 11 21:12
sebsebsebUbuntu usersNov 11 21:12
ThistleWeb"the masses" are home users who wont payNov 11 21:12
sebsebsebexcept thats not quite trueNov 11 21:13
sebsebsebquite a few people will pay for some of the services in the distroNov 11 21:13
ThistleWebthose who do are corps with support contractsNov 11 21:13
sebsebsebmaybe more space for Ubuntu One for exampleNov 11 21:13
bruce89they have in a sense alreadyNov 11 21:13
sebsebsebor  something from the software centreNov 11 21:13
bruce89at the API levelNov 11 21:13
sebsebsebor  something from the music storeNov 11 21:13
ThistleWebubuntu is never gonna be a money treeNov 11 21:13
bruce89read that bug, seriouslyNov 11 21:13
bruce89it is an unbiased upstream getting annoyed about the whole situationNov 11 21:14
sebsebsebThistleWeb: I think they may gain their goal of Ubuntu going main strame,  I mean Firefox didNov 11 21:14
sebsebsebok sure Firefox is just a browserNov 11 21:14
sebsebseb,but stillNov 11 21:14
*bruce89 sighs againNov 11 21:14
sebsebsebThistleWeb: it might take  another five or ten years yet though, if they are still aroundNov 11 21:15
sebsebsebbruce89: yep ok reading bugNov 11 21:15
ThistleWebthe reason MS and Apple can afford to do things all internally is because they SELL a lot of stuffNov 11 21:15
ThistleWebgiving it away to most of your users won't make you rich fastNov 11 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @evan To my friends everywhere: data portability and federated social networks matter. End of line.Nov 11 21:16
sebsebsebbruce89: right yeah lets read that bugNov 11 21:16
bruce89I've read it 3 times already, thanksNov 11 21:16
sebsebsebThistleWeb: and the reason Ubuntu can do stuff like Unity is, because they got Shuttleworth funding itNov 11 21:16
ThistleWebfor how long?Nov 11 21:16
ThistleWebhe knows that nay buisness loses money for a while until it's establishedNov 11 21:17
sebsebsebI guess untill he thinks Canonical can survive more on their ownNov 11 21:17
bruce89might need to sell more certificates at this rateNov 11 21:17
ThistleWebhe planned for ubuntu to be self sustaining a couple of yrs back so he could stop bankrolling itNov 11 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @evan: To my friends everywhere: data portability and federated social networks matter. End of line.Nov 11 21:17
ThistleWebit wasn't so he had a choice, pull out and abandon it to hope....or keep funding longer than he planned, putting more money in than he plannedNov 11 21:18
bruce89the snag with the plan is all this patch maintance takes a lot of peopleNov 11 21:18
ThistleWebhe chose to carry on for another lil whileNov 11 21:18
schestowitz!Ubuntu ☛ has a new Bug #1 ☛: !GNOME ☛ has majority mind share. Nothing that Unity can't fix...Nov 11 21:18
bruce89hahNov 11 21:18
ThistleWebfor ubuntu to be self sustaining, it needs to have various revenue streams, and being open source / gpl etc, "selling" per install to home users is never gonna workNov 11 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @richslxh RT @ajnasz Every !vim user should read this: http://ur.ly/t8zvNov 11 21:19
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ThistleWebyes they are making some money from various sources, but it's not a river of cash, and as far as I know it's still not self sustainingNov 11 21:20
schestowitzThistleWeb: I think it might already be funding itselfNov 11 21:20
schestowitzAsay told me they make a lot of money from desktop support tooNov 11 21:20
schestowitzMaybe it's crocodile tears when they say they need to find ways to changeNov 11 21:20
ThistleWebpossibly breaking even now, it wasn't a couple of yrs back when shuttleworth had hoped to pull funingNov 11 21:20
ThistleWebif I remember correctly this was before ubuntuone etcNov 11 21:21
schestowitzYou never know..... like poor wealthy people... bail them out and sympathise..Nov 11 21:21
schestowitzUbuntu WHAN???Nov 11 21:21
bruce89plan B maybeNov 11 21:22
sebsebsebbruce89: ok readNov 11 21:22
ThistleWebas much as canonical may want to go it alone with unity, I reckon sheer ecconomics may force their handNov 11 21:23
schestowitzThistleWeb: in -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] nice to see the #BBC extortion tax is put to good use by the "journalists" - "heard instinct"? #spellcheck #fail http://bbc.in/cCk4ISNov 11 21:23
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schestowitzWHat's the matter?Nov 11 21:23
ThistleWebas it either costs too much in time and resources having to do everything themseleves while other distros overtake them by sharing a common goal, and workloadNov 11 21:24
sebsebsebyeah Unity might not matter that much, if  other distros refuse to use it, and Gnome Shell keeps on improving properly :)Nov 11 21:25
schestowitzOpenResPEC' Yo!Nov 11 21:25
schestowitz=don't criticise Canonica?Nov 11 21:26
schestowitz*calNov 11 21:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: heh I guessNov 11 21:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah jono_ has his site now openrespectNov 11 21:26
bruce89that's what I thoughtNov 11 21:26
schestowitzjono_ started openrespect.orgNov 11 21:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: yepNov 11 21:26
schestowitzAnd canonical devs put that upNov 11 21:26
schestowitzSome religious groups do that tooNov 11 21:27
ThistleWebI reckon they'll eventaully have to open unity up and appeal for other distros to use it and share the maintaining costs, or switch from that to gnome shell like the othersNov 11 21:27
schestowitzBlasphemy laws and all that...Nov 11 21:27
sebsebseband no Canonical won't get a lot of respect from many people in the wider  Linux community, because of Unity, its as simple as thatNov 11 21:27
bruce89well indeedNov 11 21:27
schestowitzYouUnityNov 11 21:27
bruce89hopefully not abuse thoughNov 11 21:27
schestowitzRight now it's (c)edNov 11 21:27
schestowitzCanonical(R)Nov 11 21:27
ThistleWebcanonical do seem to have a habit of making decisions without involving their own community which lose them trust abnd usersNov 11 21:27
schestowitzGNOME shell is notNov 11 21:28
bruce89have they announced Harmony yet?Nov 11 21:28
schestowitzgnome has policy re (c)Nov 11 21:28
sebsebsebThistleWeb: indeed, the buttons on the left appearing all of a sudden when 10.04 was in development is a prime example of thatNov 11 21:28
ThistleWebit may be that they try to open up unity and nobody else is interested because of the attitudeNov 11 21:28
bruce89and the Yahoo debaclNov 11 21:28
schestowitzbruce89: apache took the nameNov 11 21:28
ThistleWebthey make their bedNov 11 21:28
bruce89schestowitz: whoopsNov 11 21:28
sebsebsebThistleWeb: and other distros won't just want to do Unity when its got copyright assignmentsNov 11 21:28
sebsebseband even without,  many won't just want to do itNov 11 21:29
schestowitzyesNov 11 21:29
sebsebsebor not for quite a while anywayNov 11 21:29
bruce89I was concerned due to the name; due to the 1984 issueNov 11 21:29
sebsebsebschestowitz: @me I assume?Nov 11 21:29
ThistleWebas I said, they've made their bedNov 11 21:29
ThistleWebthey may think it looks comfy now, and it may well turn out to be comfy......it may not, and they may not like itNov 11 21:29
bruce89now they have to lie their way out of itNov 11 21:30
sebsebsebThistleWeb: and yeah like you were saying before,  the average Ubuntu user doesn't want to pay for stuff on the computer,  so I guess good luck Canonical trying to sell to them in a wayNov 11 21:30
bruce89sorry, bad jokeNov 11 21:30
ThistleWebthe people who pay are corpsNov 11 21:30
ThistleWebfor supportNov 11 21:30
bruce89RHElNov 11 21:30
ThistleWebhome users paying is a drop in the oceanNov 11 21:30
sebsebsebThistleWeb: yes, but  for the services like Ubuntu One and Ubuntu One Music Store, and buying apps from the software centre, that will be consumersNov 11 21:31
bruce89but not very muchNov 11 21:31
sebsebseband my yes, was before the drop in the ocean comment,  but yeah at thatNov 11 21:31
ThistleWebsure music sales, affiliate app sales, cloud storage will attract some home users who want to help ubuntu by paying for something they could get elsehwereNov 11 21:31
bruce89is Pino actually ever going to have 0.3?Nov 11 21:31
ThistleWebbut that's like pocket money compared to their needsNov 11 21:31
sebsebseband Ubuntu Server is quite good apparnetly, I haven't tried it, but yeah  Debian, CentOS, and even Redhat Enterprise Linux,  or even yep schestowitz  Novell Enterprise Linux,  are more likely to be used insteadNov 11 21:32
ThistleWebthey're never gonna have a hope of that sustaining ubuntuNov 11 21:32
schestowitzhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/linux-mint-no-to-unity-no-to-gnome-shell/Nov 11 21:32
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sebsebsebschestowitz: yep INov 11 21:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: put that on identica :)Nov 11 21:32
sebsebsebalso its makes sense for MintNov 11 21:32
sebsebsebGnome Shell or Unity would completly change the Mint look, and the Mint look is quite good as it is reallyNov 11 21:33
ThistleWebmint is one of those positioned to hoover up disgruntled ubuntu usersNov 11 21:33
sebsebsebThistleWeb: yepNov 11 21:33
sebsebseb,but then hopefuly in that case, mainly to the Debian version :)Nov 11 21:33
ThistleWebany change ubuntu enforce will lose some users, but gain others, as long as they gain more than they lose, it's seen as a successNov 11 21:33
jono_schestowitz openrespect.org has nothing to do with canonicalNov 11 21:34
ThistleWebwhy debianNov 11 21:34
jono_it was a spare time project of my ownNov 11 21:34
jono_irrespective of ubuntuNov 11 21:34
sebsebsebThistleWeb: since basing directly on Debian is apparnetly more stable, or whatever people say?Nov 11 21:34
ThistleWeblighter yesNov 11 21:34
bruce89it is less of a burden I'd thinkNov 11 21:34
ThistleWebmore stable? maybeNov 11 21:34
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ThistleWebbut it's a very early stage so a lot of the stuff that makes mint appeal is not compatible with the debian edition yetNov 11 21:35
bruce89ah, I seeNov 11 21:35
ThistleWebso lmde is not that much different from vanillla debianNov 11 21:35
sebsebsebwell I got someone using it recently, and he seemed quite happy with it :)Nov 11 21:35
ThistleWebuntil those mint tools start to get ported, which is plannedNov 11 21:35
sebsebsebhowever yeah LMDE is still quite early, so I am not so sure, about recommending that one to loads of peopleNov 11 21:36
sebsebsebI mean newbies to Desktop LinuxNov 11 21:36
ThistleWebubuntu people are used to a layer of user freindliness they'd get in the ubuntu mint, and much more, they won't get that in lmdeNov 11 21:36
sebsebsebUbuntu people would also get more user friendlyless in Mandriva,  Mageia when  an ISO comes out,  PC Linux OS, and that Unity Linux which I haven't tried yet a PLOS forkNov 11 21:37
sebsebsebwhy quite simple reallyNov 11 21:37
sebsebseba nice graphical control centre for a startNov 11 21:37
ThistleWeball the various PPAs, ubuntu .deb files on sites, wont work on lmde, but they will on mintNov 11 21:37
sebsebseboh yeah I missed OpenSUse, but I guess that ones is more user friendly than Ubuntu, well once people know how to use yast?Nov 11 21:38
sebsebsebThistleWeb: well yes Ubuntu and Debian have differences,  and not meant to use Ubuntu ppa's on Mint anyway reallyNov 11 21:38
schestowitz[21:34] <jono_> schestowitz openrespect.org has nothing to do with canonicalNov 11 21:39
schestowitzYes, I knowNov 11 21:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: he leftNov 11 21:39
schestowitzI think it was made in response to angry mailNov 11 21:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: actsaully I asked about that in his latest ustreamNov 11 21:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: and he explained why it was made quite nicely thereNov 11 21:39
schestowitzoops, he's goneNov 11 21:40
ThistleWebsebsebseb: why not? it's an ubuntu base, they're 100% compatible as long as you get the right versions and don't try to install a hardy deb on maverick etcNov 11 21:40
sebsebsebThistleWeb: ok well tell that to the people who run the Ubuntu channels maybe, and good luck,  they would still say  Mint support is not alloweed thereNov 11 21:40
ThistleWebof course they don't want mint support, they want users to run ubuntuNov 11 21:41
sebsebsebUbuntu is a junk distro these days, but  wellNov 11 21:41
sebsebsebI am the kind of person who tests out junk software sometimesNov 11 21:41
ThistleWebmost distros don't have a financial incentive to encourage people to use itNov 11 21:41
ThistleWebcanonical is a corp, who's duty is to make moneyNov 11 21:42
sebsebsebyeah be that Ubuntu,  or  even  well I still haven't tried out Internet Explorer 9,  maybe I won't botherNov 11 21:42
ThistleWebthe last thing they want is people realising mint is just ubuntu with added polishNov 11 21:42
sebsebsebUbuntu is very much so hyped up, I can think of quite a few distros, that would be much better for most of their new users really, and sure Mint is one of themNov 11 21:42
ThistleWebI reckon the reason they now allow you to install extra non-free codecs at install is to counter mintNov 11 21:43
sebsebsebwell its only the MP3  codec as far as I knowNov 11 21:43
ThistleWebthe appeal of being able to play dvds, mp3 etc all at first boot is powerfulNov 11 21:43
sebsebseband nothing elseNov 11 21:43
ThistleWebinstead of having to do that post installNov 11 21:43
sebsebsebyeah well Sabayon is like that as well for example, but not as popular by a long wayNov 11 21:43
sebsebsebas MintNov 11 21:44
sebsebsebor is it realy, just not  as known that it may beNov 11 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Planning for the new BUSC homepage is in full swing. With luck, we can launch it at the end of next week...Nov 11 21:44
ThistleWebI reckon theres a lot of ubuntu people who just think mint is a respin, like someone put a green theme on ubuntu and called it a distroNov 11 21:44
ThistleWebwithout seeing what makes mint, mintNov 11 21:44
sebsebsebThistleWeb:  most people want stuff to just work on their computer, and thats  where Ubuntu does fail, when it comes to how it does hardware support, a lot of the tiemNov 11 21:45
ThistleWebhardware support can hit anyone with any distroNov 11 21:45
sebsebseband yeah exactly,  peopel just think Mint is Ubuntu with some little changes here and there, or something like that, a lot of themNov 11 21:45
sebsebsebThistleWeb: we had this convo not that long ago, but  Ubuntu has bad hardware support compared to many of the other distros, I mean when it comes to wireless and such just workingNov 11 21:46
sebsebseborNov 11 21:46
sebsebsebbeing easy to have workingNov 11 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Getting CDs ready for the Severed Fifth show tomorrow night :-) #severedfifthNov 11 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Les chercheurs doivent-ils boycotter Elsevier? [fr] - http://bit.ly/aMuw8d > Elsevier has a recent series of corruption.. badNov 11 21:46
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bruce89I don't think that's trueNov 11 21:46
sebsebsebwell thats the impression I get, when for example wireless didn't just work in Ubuntu, but will a lot of the time, in  distros such as Mandriva or PC Linux OSNov 11 21:46
ThistleWebclosed drivers maybeNov 11 21:46
sebsebsebor have working their easierNov 11 21:46
ThistleWebor hardware that needs closed drivers evenNov 11 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jonobacon thanks for the openrespect site. The point I was trying to make earlier is that we should respect *all* opinions, & stay politeNov 11 21:47
sebsebsebalso apparently according to quite a few people,  PC Linux OS does hardware support better  than Ubuntu a lot of the time,  but others may have had issues so hmmNov 11 21:48
sebsebsebwell not all computers are the sameNov 11 21:48
sebsebsebnot all comptuers have the same hardware, and yes some distros work better  than others on a particular computerNov 11 21:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah maybe chat here got him to leaveNov 11 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @schestowitz oh totally, I agree! :-)Nov 11 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz shoulda been openrespec with Ali G on the logo "is it because I iz deb?" lolNov 11 21:49
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ThistleWebI know pclinux and mandriva 2007 (I think) found my speedtouch dsl modem where ubuntu and otrhers needed firmware fixes, but that kidna stuff, your mileage variesNov 11 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME Shell accessibility status http://goo.gl/XBz6UNov 11 21:51
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ThistleWebI'd doubt ubuntu are any better or worse overall than othersNov 11 21:51
bruce89indeedNov 11 21:51
sebsebsebThistleWeb: yeah I recommended Mandriva to some people with wireless issues in Ubuntu, and Mandriva worked out better for most/all of them  or whatever iircNov 11 21:52
bruce89I don't see how that can be the caseNov 11 21:52
ThistleWebI'd imagine most of the major distros kinda even themseleves outNov 11 21:52
sebsebsebthen theres pulseaudio as well, Ubuntu has had many issues with that since 8.04, but as far as I know other distros don't tend to have so many issues with that?Nov 11 21:52
ThistleWebubtuntu are not the only ones with pulse issues as far as I know, but the one who got pulse working right drom pretty much day 1 was fedoraNov 11 21:53
bruce89red hat conspiracy!Nov 11 21:55
ThistleWebyeah lolNov 11 21:57
ThistleWebas much as I bag fedora, RH do a lot for linux in generalNov 11 21:57
ThistleWeband on that note, I'm outa hereNov 11 21:58
ThistleWebcyasNov 11 21:58
bruce89byeNov 11 21:58
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sebsebsebbruce89: bag Fedora?Nov 11 21:58
sebsebsebbruce89: he doesnt like it?Nov 11 21:58
bruce89to be frank, I was perplexed by that toNov 11 21:59
bruce89tooNov 11 21:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IBM does PR, gets publicity: http://ur.ly/t5Yl the "We create jobs" spin, what about the effect on SMB (local competition)? #walmart #ibmNov 11 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Son is turning a turkey into a submarine for school. (It's complicated.) First material requirement he calls for? Yellow paper. GET IT?Nov 11 22:01
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schestowitz"@jonobacon @schestowitz *all* opinions are not deserving of respect.  Some opinions deserve a good roasting.  ;-)" http://identi.ca/conversation/57887894#notice-58428252Nov 11 22:02
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sebsebsebbruce89: so it seems the reason that Ubuntu are going to remove Gnome Dictioniary is, because it doesn't work with other languages, but English,  and it seems they think it doesn't get supported much or somethingNov 11 22:02
bruce89that's oddNov 11 22:03
bruce89but a fair pointNov 11 22:03
sebsebsebyeah I read a  comment in a blueprint earlierNov 11 22:03
sebsebseband thats the impression I gotNov 11 22:03
bruce89it should be rewritten to use wiktionary or somethingNov 11 22:04
sebsebsebnice littel program that oneNov 11 22:04
schestowitz"@qchapter when I said what I did (and c/f context) I was referring to some anti-free speech laws, like "blasphemy" law //cc @jonobacon"Nov 11 22:04
sebsebsebbruce89: on one hand its a lovely little app to have, on the other, people can look up words on Google or whatever anywayNov 11 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb yeah, I made this joke in IRC earlierNov 11 22:07
bruce89well, people can do anything online thoughNov 11 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Love #CC? Use CC licenses? Show you care. Give back to CC & Hindawi will double your gift! http://bit.ly/9BUJjnNov 11 22:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @linux_pro: My interview with The Document Foundation's Jacqueline Rahemipour: http://is.gd/gS4dy (via @rikkikite)Nov 11 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How I make sure my art doesn’t get ripped off on the Internet - http://bit.ly/9sV8a2 "An open source world is the one we’ve always lived in"Nov 11 22:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @tuxradar Should the !KDE and #Qt libraries merge? Have your say in our open ballot! http://tinyurl.com/2ucorrrNov 11 22:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] ActiveState announces the PyPM Index http://lwn.net/Articles/414991/rssNov 11 22:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. It was a long day.....Nov 11 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Woo, I can see Saturn out the windowNov 11 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bruce89 George W Bush to be waterboarded to see if he thinks it's tortureNov 11 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz it was kinda obvious wordplay lolNov 11 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Musings on Mount Meru http://buddhism.about.com/b/2010/11/08/musings-on-mount-meru.htm?nl=1Nov 11 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @bruce89 naked eye?Nov 11 22:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @schestowitz indeed, it's been cloudy all day, so it's niceNov 11 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ABC: Activism, Buddhism, Compassion http://buddhism.about.com/b/2010/11/10/abc-activism-buddhism-compassion.htm?nl=1Nov 11 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mono Picking Up F# Support For Linux, Mac OS X, Etc: Last week Microsoft decided to open-source their F# program... http://bit.ly/aoCm4KNov 11 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] JJ Hickson “Absolutely F$*&ed It” Dunk? http://ur1.ca/2brigNov 11 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 looks more like Dreamcast to meNov 11 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ABC: Activism, Buddhism, Compassion .::. Size~: 39.09 KBNov 11 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Mono Picking Up F# Support For Linux, Mac OS X, Etc .::. Size~: 16.97 KBNov 11 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: JJ Hickson "Absolutely Fucked It" Dunk Video with Audio | The Hoop Doctors .::. Size~: 41.5 KBNov 11 22:27
MinceRgnNov 11 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak I like the phrase "unfree software". #EbenMoglen says "software unfreedom". I wonder whether people will find it too weird. !fsNov 11 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lxoliva @webmink heh. permission to publish a press release headlined “Simon says Linux is not Open Core, it's proprietary”? :-P :-DNov 11 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @thistleweb that's a bit before my time I believeNov 11 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink @lxoliva Do I have your permission to say "Alexandre Olivia finally drops the GNU and calls it Linux"?Nov 11 22:31
schestowitz[phoronix/@phoronix] Mono Picking Up F# Support For Linux, Mac OS X, Etc: Last week Microsoft decided to open-source their F# program... http://bit.ly/aoCm4KNov 11 22:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Mono Picking Up F# Support For Linux, Mac OS X, Etc .::. Size~: 16.97 KBNov 11 22:31
schestowitzOh, lookie hereNov 11 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I've been adding art datasets to CKAN but we need more! Do you know of any good art data on the web? - http://ckan.net/tag/artNov 11 22:34
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schestowitz"@schestowitz @bruce89 if, as these criminal thugs think, #torture ☛ exposes truth--then it's the only way we'll stop GWB lying about #iraq ☛"Nov 11 22:36
bruce89incidentally, my dent was just a thought I had, not anything serious or indeed well thought outNov 11 22:37
bruce89however I wouldn't put it past him to do it to sell his bookNov 11 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rt @glynmoody Feds admit to storing tens of thousands of images from naked scanners - http://bit.ly/9Ril6iNov 11 22:41
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57888599#notice-58430086 "Fair enough. Microblogging and context are strange bedfellows. Especially for lazy denters like myself."Nov 11 22:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.86 KBNov 11 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody re naked scanners: RT @mmasnick that's an old story... and slightly misleading. machines at courthouses, not airports...Nov 11 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @schestowitz @glynmoody Feds admit to storing tens of thousands of images from naked scanners http://ur1.ca/2b4l1Nov 11 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera Forbes publicly laments its decision to deem Monsanto "company of the year." http://ur1.ca/2b4n8 #gmo #patents #monopopliesNov 11 22:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Monsanto's Fall: The End of GMO Seed Industry?   | Environment/Nature |Axisoflogic.com .::. Size~: 42.54 KBNov 11 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "And yet...Tories still hate human rights, and human rights applied to prisoners most of all!" http://ur1.ca/2brmxNov 11 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 'grats! ♻ @robynbergeron: It's official: I'll be a Red Hat employee on Monday. @johnpoelstra has left me some big shoes to fill, thoughNov 11 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @schestowitz: Rt @glynmoody Feds admit to storing tens of thousands of images from naked scanners - http://bit.ly/9Ril6iNov 11 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BEN'S PRISON BLOG: Tories and Human Rights .::. Size~: 107.06 KBNov 11 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Looks like they have had to put poppies on everyone in the audience on #bbcqtNov 11 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @robynbergeron: It's official: I'll be a Red Hat employee on Monday. @johnpoelstra has left me some big shoes to fill, thoughNov 11 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I was trying to trace back here how long ago I switched to !Fedora. Whenever it was, this is the day I've decided the switch is permanentNov 11 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz RT @satipera Forbes publicly laments its decision to deem Monsanto "company of the year." http://ur1.ca/2b4n8 #gmo #pate ...Nov 11 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz How is that misleading? Do u rly believe the #tsa won't store imgs in the same way? lulz Full Body 4Chan @mmasnick @glynmoodyNov 11 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Monsanto's Fall: The End of GMO Seed Industry?   | Environment/Nature |Axisoflogic.com .::. Size~: 42.54 KBNov 11 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram nice one on S5. I made over 100 presentations in it.Nov 11 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Oh dear, IDS has been described as courageous, that's him ruined #BBCqtNov 11 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Back to #Pino, #Gwibber was too yuckyNov 11 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @firusvg: "Two monologues do not make a dialogue." #qNov 11 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera The oil field that the BP rig blew up in was named after a cursed town in a Gabriel Garcia Marquez novel.Nov 11 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @webmink: GOP Energy Committee Chairman Candidate Says God Promised No More Catastrophic Climate Change After Noah: http://bit.ly/bjQVhzNov 11 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Microsoft not amused by open source Kinect drivers http://ur1.ca/2brtcNov 11 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz ♺ @webmink: GOP Energy Committee Chairman Candidate Says God Promised No More Catastrophic Climate Change After Noah: ht ...Nov 11 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Neo-conservative is another person I'd like to test waterboarding on #bbcqtNov 11 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Energy Committee Chairman Candidate Says God Promised no More Catastrophic Climate Change after Noah | Informed Comment .::. Size~: 189.95 KBNov 11 23:09
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schestowitzTRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ROFL! Conan the Musical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGOQ7SsJrw -- Crom! Shoaw me ze vizzard who killed my mudda!Nov 11 23:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Conan the Barbarian: The Musical (Arnold Schwarzenegger)   .::. Size~: 130.44 KBNov 11 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] WDTV Live Hub Is Like Methadone for Media Junkies | Product Reviews | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/2brtmNov 11 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Douglas is his name, he says waterboarding is not torture, and that it doesn't matter if saves livesNov 11 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WDTV Live Hub Is Like Methadone for Media Junkies  | Product Reviews | Wired.com .::. Size~: 60.33 KBNov 11 23:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: Unity OS XNov 11 23:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: they are even calling it a dock on that omgubuntu link in commetnsNov 11 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @seeds can't sell them at a loss nowNov 11 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @joabj Beware the black market rising for IP addresses (Network World Asia): http://bit.ly/9SlklxNov 11 23:12
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bruce89I thought it was sebsebsebNov 11 23:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Discussion (started at http://ur1.ca/2brtn ) on !BusyBox ML sadly got mildly heated. Hopefully new post ( http://ur1.ca/2brtr ) quells that.Nov 11 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE Bush memoires. UK Home Secretary repeats and underlines UK Government view on waterboarding "It is torture and we do not support it"Nov 11 23:14
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sebsebsebbruce89: no  before,  it wasn't called a dock,  since it was differnetNov 11 23:15
sebsebsebor whateverNov 11 23:15
bruce89the neo-conservative said it wasn't tortureNov 11 23:15
bruce89someone suggested he undergo itNov 11 23:15
sebsebsebanyway I guess Unity for those that want Mac OS X basically, and Gnome Shell for those of us who can see beyound all that :)Nov 11 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz wow cool, I have no use for presentation. But I should make a dummy one to see how it really is.Nov 11 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds lol I dint thinkt they would brNov 11 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @schestowitz yaNov 11 23:16
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sebsebsebhazzy: hiNov 11 23:16
bruce89Unity is not torture, waterboarding isNov 11 23:16
hazzyHiNov 11 23:16
sebsebsebhazzy: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/compiz-based-unity-coming-to-ppa-tomorrow/Nov 11 23:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Compiz-based Unity coming to PPA tomorrow .::. Size~: 62.37 KBNov 11 23:16
sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/compiz-based-unity-coming-to-ppa-tomorrow/Nov 11 23:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Compiz-based Unity coming to PPA tomorrow .::. Size~: 62.37 KBNov 11 23:16
sebsebsebhazzy:  have you tired UNity at all?Nov 11 23:16
bruce89I thought you stopped reading propaganda sebsebsebNov 11 23:16
hazzyI have notNov 11 23:17
sebsebsebhazzy: ok, but you know about it?Nov 11 23:17
hazzyYupNov 11 23:17
sebsebsebhazzy: was just talking about that here, and how they are even calling the thing on the side a dock now and suchNov 11 23:17
sebsebsebanyway Gnome Shell :)Nov 11 23:17
sebsebsebUnity hmmNov 11 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Half of the dents from the @eff recently are asking for money, like 10-20 times per day *sigh*Nov 11 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: LOL uni has a page of students who twitter, sans me maybe I shouldn't have pissed & moaned about the burritos ur1.ca/2brufNov 11 23:17
sebsebsebbruce89: Ubuntu the new Mac OS X?  will it be one day?Nov 11 23:18
sebsebsebor Mac OS X for those that can't afford it?Nov 11 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @bkuhn Why are companies reluctant to update to the latest version? I don't understand thatNov 11 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Labour politician on question time saying they did not collude with torture, the end of her nose is now in the audience.Nov 11 23:19
sebsebsebbruce89: anyway so you were calling omgubuntu propaganda?Nov 11 23:19
hazzyUsing Gnome-shell atm. Looks good.Nov 11 23:19
sebsebsebok nice hazzy :)Nov 11 23:19
sebsebsebwhich distro though?Nov 11 23:19
bruce89http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/2010/11/11/what-is-worse-than-leaflets-stirring-up-racial-tension/Nov 11 23:19
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hazzyMandrivaNov 11 23:20
sebsebsebok awesome :)Nov 11 23:20
sebsebseband yeah Gnome Shell is quite nice, lacks features a bit, but just a window manager on top of Gnome 2 at the moment and yeahNov 11 23:20
sebsebsebhazzy: Mageia alpha 1 next month by the way, the fork of Mandriva :) I look forwardNov 11 23:20
hazzyAs do INov 11 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #BBCqt http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/2010/11/11/what-is-worse-than-leaflets-stirring-up-racial-tension/Nov 11 23:21
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sebsebsebhazzy: However the plan is for me to get rid of Fedora soonish not quite sure whenNov 11 23:21
sebsebsebhazzy: run PC Linux OS for a while on this computer, and then maybe put on Ubuntu alpha 1, for a bit, and then soon after that comes out Mageia's alpha 1 should be coming out so :)Nov 11 23:22
hazzyFedora 14?Nov 11 23:22
sebsebsebyep Fedora 14Nov 11 23:22
sebsebsebanyway if I have a distro with Virtualbox working, so thats not FedoraNov 11 23:23
sebsebseband if I then set it up properly, I should be able to virtual machine Compiz, and so UnityNov 11 23:23
sebsebsebputting a pshyical install of Ubuntu on this computer again, would give me a bad feeling inside or whateverNov 11 23:24
sebsebsebhazzy: anyway you glad you left Ubuntu then?Nov 11 23:24
hazzyNow I amNov 11 23:25
sebsebsebyeah how come?Nov 11 23:25
hazzyAfter the planned switch to WaylandNov 11 23:25
sebsebsebalso didn't you start with like Ubuntu 10.04?Nov 11 23:25
sebsebsebyour first distro?Nov 11 23:25
hazzyNo, not meNov 11 23:25
bruce89was mine I'm afraidNov 11 23:25
hazzyI started on Ubuntu HardyNov 11 23:25
sebsebsebbruce89: well you mean 5.04Nov 11 23:25
bruce89no, 4.10Nov 11 23:25
Diablo-D3wow thats new shit.Nov 11 23:26
sebsebsebuh yeah, 4.10 for youNov 11 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @raphaelhertzog: #Debian #Squeeze artwork selected by the desktop team - http://bit.ly/a27X1ANov 11 23:26
sebsebseb5.04 for me, but not my first distro :)Nov 11 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian Squeeze artwork selected by the desktop team | apt-get install debian-wizard .::. Size~: 36.46 KBNov 11 23:26
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: what is?Nov 11 23:26
Diablo-D3ubuntuNov 11 23:26
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: oh you just seen Unity?Nov 11 23:26
sebsebsebthe link I gave?Nov 11 23:26
Diablo-D3no, I meant bruce89Nov 11 23:26
Diablo-D3he started with ubuntuNov 11 23:26
Diablo-D3I started with debian over a decade agoNov 11 23:26
bruce89hence the "I'm afraid"Nov 11 23:27
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: I sarted with Fedora Core 2 in 2004, and coudn't go online, since stupid wireless device and...Nov 11 23:27
*Diablo-D3 has been around too long.Nov 11 23:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @gustavojordan: !Debian Squeeze new artwork (wallpaper,GDM,splash screen and more) winner SpaceFun by @valessiobrito http://ur1.ca/2brvxNov 11 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @silner,various reasons,some discussed in that thread. IMO seems it's not premeditated: they got a version that worked one day & stuck w/ itNov 11 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian Squeeze artwork selected by the desktop team | apt-get install debian-wizard .::. Size~: 36.65 KBNov 11 23:27
sebsebsebhazzy: ok soNov 11 23:28
sebsebsebhazzy: Why you happy that you left Ubuntu?Nov 11 23:28
hazzyThe planned switch to WaylandNov 11 23:28
sebsebseboh yeah you saidNov 11 23:28
sebsebseband I was going to reply about thatNov 11 23:28
sebsebsebuhmm wayland won't be untill after 12.04 for UbuntuNov 11 23:28
bruce89och, it's not a plan; just one of NC's whimsNov 11 23:28
sebsebsebin fact someone said earlier, that it may be another four years yetNov 11 23:29
sebsebsebbruce89: NC ?Nov 11 23:29
bruce89Nut CaseNov 11 23:29
sebsebsebhazzy: wayland can even run xorg underneath it, so the propritary Nivida driver can workNov 11 23:29
sebsebsebWho you calling that?  Mark?Nov 11 23:29
Diablo-D3sebsebseb: no it cantNov 11 23:30
Diablo-D3there is no planned support for wayland-on-x that Im aware ofNov 11 23:30
bruce89yesNov 11 23:30
Diablo-D3its only x-on-waylandNov 11 23:30
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sebsebsebDiablo-D3: well it can according to well comments on the omgubuntu blog entry about Nivida not doing it, and then the links were to the wayland site or whateverNov 11 23:30
Diablo-D3omgubuntu is largely bullshit and trollsNov 11 23:30
bruce89Nut Case has said these sorts of things beforeNov 11 23:30
Diablo-D3and no one cares about nvidiaNov 11 23:30
Diablo-D3nvidia is going bankruptNov 11 23:30
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: to be fair or whatever,  and no offence, but your a bit of a troll here at timesNov 11 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] QT, I do not think Theresa May could look any more cheesed off, she really does not want to be there.Nov 11 23:31
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: when I was here, and you annoyeed ThistleWeb last time,  that was a good example of that,  in fact there was a chat him and cubezzz about that after wouldsNov 11 23:32
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Diablo-D3sebsebseb: I dont support Microsoft ventures.Nov 11 23:32
Diablo-D3that means I do not support Ubuntu.Nov 11 23:32
sebsebsebuhmm?Nov 11 23:33
Diablo-D3ubuntu ships mono on the install disc, and is trying to turn gnome into all mono shitNov 11 23:33
Diablo-D3screw themNov 11 23:33
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: yeah and zeitgest uses Mono and is part of UnityNov 11 23:34
*bruce89 sighs for the 4th timeNov 11 23:34
Diablo-D3sebsebseb: I dont know what zeitgest is, but I dont care.Nov 11 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ur1.ca/2brz1 Godwin's law.Nov 11 23:34
sebsebsebsome sort of search  program thats what it isNov 11 23:34
bruce89it's that thing that when rejected from GNOME, they ran off to UbuntuNov 11 23:34
bruce89sebsebseb: last I heard it was pythonNov 11 23:35
sebsebsebafaik its Mono, but I might be wrongNov 11 23:35
bruce89I think you areNov 11 23:35
sebsebsebI guess schestowitz knows about that one, and what it isNov 11 23:35
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbV55v0g0AYNov 11 23:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] QT camera has picked up on it and has been cutting to shots of Theresa May for last 5 mins or so.Nov 11 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @silner !Fedora effectively got me off of !slackware and !Ubuntu (almost simultaneously)Nov 11 23:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: Is Zeitgest Mono?Nov 11 23:36
bruce89it is pythonNov 11 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] "A million in forced labour camps" is that Tory Cameron's dream? #BBCqtNov 11 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] lawsuit from Microsoft aimed at Motorola is maddening hypocrisy. Claims that Motorola is seeking royalties based on retail price of…Nov 11 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] …products (Xbox, Win7, WinPh7) rather than based on price of component software and hardware that actually relates to the patents.Nov 11 23:39
bruce89http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~zeitgeist/zeitgeist/trunk/filesNov 11 23:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] …exactly what Microsoft has been shaking HTC, Samsung, Motorola (et al) down for wrt Android, royalties around Free software.Nov 11 23:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] This is #Microsoft showing what it does if you don’t ‘licence patents and pay fees’ around Android #mafia #protectionracket #motorolaNov 11 23:42
schestowitzsebsebseb: noNov 11 23:45
schestowitzLong answer, it dependsNov 11 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: 4 already! You could change the name from TB to the Today Programe :)Nov 11 23:46
sebsebsebhazzy: Why are you worried about Wayland?Nov 11 23:46
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hazzyBecause, Ubuntu is the most popular distro, if people choose Ubuntu as their first distro, they may not want to try any other because they are so differentNov 11 23:50
sebsebsebhazzy: exactly which is why I worry about UnityNov 11 23:51
bruce89from what I hear, wayland's likely to be used by a lot of distros about the same timeNov 11 23:51
sebsebsebhazzy: since that will be Ubuntu only for quite a while probablyNov 11 23:51
sebsebsebhazzy: however as for wayland uhmm see what bruce89 typedNov 11 23:52
bruce89I mean, X is a bit of a mess reallyNov 11 23:52
bruce89I believevNov 11 23:52
hazzyI've heard that tooNov 11 23:53
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57876866#notice-58423562 "I am sorry that I may have said something truthful about a glorified weblog. In the future, I will do my best to keep truth out of it."Nov 11 23:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.71 KBNov 11 23:53
schestowitz"At this point, I'd rather not, as I've been chewed out by several people for that darned tweet/dent."Nov 11 23:53
schestowitz"I can understand that. "glorified weblog"... why i'm thinking of Boycott Novell... er... Techrights?:P"Nov 11 23:53
bruce89I just wonder if they want to do it for the right reasonNov 11 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Case Study: The Center for Patient Partnerships @ UW Madison : http://bit.ly/cc3vcM #civicaseNov 11 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/11/2010: Qt 4.7.1 Released, Firefox 4 Much Faster http://ur.ly/toblNov 11 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bruce89 "A million in forced labour camps" is that Tory Cameron's dream? #BBCqtNov 11 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #ThisWeek is onNov 11 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera QT, I do not think Theresa May could look any more cheesed off, she really does not want to be there.Nov 11 23:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Center for Patient Partnerships - CiviCRM 3.3 Documentation - CiviCRM Wiki .::. Size~: 34.29 KBNov 11 23:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 11/11/2010: Qt 4.7.1 Released, Firefox 4 Much Faster | Techrights .::. Size~: 152.73 KBNov 11 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera I'd do !tb daily if @openbytes had more free timeNov 11 23:59
schestowitz"@schestowitz: right now you can increase your donation 3 fold using paypal & the group that is matching. I wouldn't shut up about it either" https://identi.ca/notice/58431728Nov 11 23:59
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