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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I wonder if the public support for welfare reform is due to the fact that the press in this country basically controls opinionsNov 12 00:02
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sebsebsebbruce89: So spam type accounts that have subscribed to me on identica, should I do anything about that, or just ignore it?Nov 12 00:07
bruce89flag themNov 12 00:08
sebsebsebbruce89: hmm, but to do that, I would have to go on them again it seemsNov 12 00:08
bruce89don't subscribe to themNov 12 00:08
bruce89and that's a problem because?Nov 12 00:10
sebsebsebbruce89: uhmm yeah, but why not subsribe to them?  might get account details? or what?Nov 12 00:10
bruce89because you'd get spam in your timelineNov 12 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] downgraded to #identicurse-0.2 latest version crashed out on input mode..Nov 12 00:12
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oiaohmBoy it annoyes me There are people out there who some how think Garbage collection prevents memory leaks.Nov 12 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: I am sorry to say this because you have heard it from the 0st :) audiocast but your half of audio is painful, bug no.1 :(Nov 12 00:14
oiaohmGarbage collection prevent having a pointer going no where.Nov 12 00:14
oiaohmNot memory leaks.Nov 12 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !listening to #BIGK.R.I.T #hiphopNov 12 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #LibDems have decided to take the bullets the #Tories would have got if the #coalition hadn't happenedNov 12 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Another #CiviCRM Make It Happen will happen in 3.3.x. Auto-renew Memberships and Recurring Contributions via Auth.net: http://bit.ly/9IPtayNov 12 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Make it Happen! | CiviCRM Community Site .::. Size~: 22.07 KBNov 12 00:19
sebsebsebbruce89: On identica when it says remote underneath subscriptions and subscribers, whats that?Nov 12 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost where can i get #pydentica?Nov 12 00:27
sebsebsebschestowitz: or maybe you can answe that one ^Nov 12 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Kaiser report always entertaining, finished an interview about oil and wars with.. well anyway thanks to Afghan war USA has plenty of opiumNov 12 00:32
bruce89subcriptions is those you subscribe TO, subscribers are those that subscribe to YOUNov 12 00:34
sebsebsebbruce89: yesNov 12 00:34
sebsebsebbruce89: ,but underneath thatNov 12 00:34
sebsebsebit says RemoteNov 12 00:34
bruce89doesn't matterNov 12 00:35
sebsebseband I was wondering what that isNov 12 00:35
sebsebsebsome sort of button, but what is it ?Nov 12 00:35
bruce89that's for subscribing remotely to someoneNov 12 00:35
sebsebsebsubscribring remotely to someone???Nov 12 00:35
bruce89yesNov 12 00:35
sebsebsebmeaning?Nov 12 00:35
bruce89you can subscribe to someone remoteNov 12 00:35
sebsebsebremoe on another computer?Nov 12 00:35
bruce89another StatusNet instanceNov 12 00:36
sebsebsebor is that how to subscribe to the statusnet people or something, since they got another server or whatever?Nov 12 00:36
bruce89yesNov 12 00:36
sebsebsebohNov 12 00:37
sebsebsebalso why are some on that instead?Nov 12 00:37
bruce89because it's funNov 12 00:37
sebsebsebits pretty much the same thing isn't it?Nov 12 00:38
sebsebseband can be on both anyway, but not much point, since can send messages betwene the two?Nov 12 00:38
bruce89other sites have different limits sometimesNov 12 00:38
sebsebsebuser limits?  how many people can have an account?Nov 12 00:38
sebsebsebbruce89: ???????Nov 12 00:40
bruce89character limistsNov 12 00:47
sebsebsebbruce89: hmm ok I guessNov 12 00:49
sebsebsebbruce89: so can send a message to another  similar site, as long as can fit into the character limit of their site and such?Nov 12 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost k. good stuffNov 12 00:57
bruce89noNov 12 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Microsoft resorts to spam to push Zune - http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=1096 #microsoft #fsfNov 12 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Microsoft resorts to spam to push Zune - Pwnage.ca .::. Size~: 20.23 KBNov 12 01:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Boycott Nokia Siemens for Selling Anti-Dissident Tech to Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81jqFWkvxUNov 12 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - boycott nokia siemens   .::. Size~: 111.04 KBNov 12 01:16
Ender2070you guys see this: http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=1096Nov 12 01:17
Ender2070Microsoft is spamming people with Zune commentsNov 12 01:17
Ender2070on blogsNov 12 01:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 12 01:18
hazzyApparently, the page does not existNov 12 01:19
hazzyOh, waitNov 12 01:20
hazzyNvm, I got itNov 12 01:20
Ender2070lolNov 12 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] What’s new in Kitsune http://bit.ly/bNubnKNov 12 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost how long have you been denting from stonehenge?Nov 12 01:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SUMO Blog » Whats new in Kitsune .::. Size~: 19.88 KBNov 12 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I will not rest until I write DavidCamertronNov 12 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Gastric lavage now availableNov 12 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Hmm Google has a new phone the Nexus S based on the Samsung Galaxy S lineNov 12 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost aw, but that sounds fun, but I'm crapNov 12 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] note to self: when dismounting from a bicycle, try to get one or more feet off of the pedals and onto the groundNov 12 01:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Google employee axed over 10% raise leak http://ur1.ca/2bsu3Nov 12 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost that's work, that's against my religionNov 12 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] http://unitycoders.pastebin.com/tEmfHZfX is DC's big speech thingNov 12 01:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google employee axed over 10% raise leak - Computerworld .::. Size~: 86.95 KBNov 12 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] To me, a Markov chain sounds like an interesting russian anchorNov 12 01:54
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ml2mstGeekings, I'm late again. Guess everyboddy is sleeping already ;-)Nov 12 01:56
Will_My initial take on Kinect was that there was some interesting stuff in there, but with MS at the helm, it would never be more than a gimmick.  Looks like there's hope:Nov 12 01:56
Will_http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2010/11/10/we-have-a-winner-open-kinect-drivers-released-winner-will-use-3k-for-more-hacking-plus-an-additional-2k-goes-to-the-eff/Nov 12 01:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WE HAVE A WINNER  Open Kinect driver(s) released  Winner will use $3k for more hacking  PLUS an additional $2k goes to the EFF! «  adafruit industries blog .::. Size~: 95.03 KBNov 12 01:56
Will_What I love is that the person that wrote the driver doesn't even own an Xbox, and he did the development and testing on a Linux laptop.Nov 12 01:57
Ender2070ahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Nov 12 01:59
Ender2070god damn crackersNov 12 01:59
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ml2mstEnder2070: Brandon?Nov 12 02:00
Ender2070yoNov 12 02:00
Ender2070people want my site downNov 12 02:01
Ender2070lolNov 12 02:01
Ender2070www.pwnage.caNov 12 02:01
ml2mstEnder2070: nice to see you, everything allright?Nov 12 02:01
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Ender2070almost yeahNov 12 02:02
ml2mstEnder2070: LOL, osgeex.blogspot.com was already deleted :-(Nov 12 02:02
Ender2070looks like I got cracked againNov 12 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] AdaFruit Industries pays out bounty on open source drivers for Kinect https://eff.org/r.u6cNov 12 02:02
ml2mstmy gmail account was cracked and osgeex was deletedNov 12 02:02
hazzyhttp://cantbeunseen.com/what-has-been-seen/popular/16998-computers-are-like-air-condNov 12 02:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WE HAVE A WINNER  Open Kinect driver(s) released  Winner will use $3k for more hacking  PLUS an additional $2k goes to the EFF! «  adafruit industries blog .::. Size~: 94.96 KBNov 12 02:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Can't Be Unseen - Computers are like air conditioners... t .::. Size~: 46.07 KBNov 12 02:03
Ender2070ouchNov 12 02:03
Ender2070i just posted about microsoft spamming my blogNov 12 02:03
ml2msthttp://www.pwnage.ca prints: Error establishing a database connectionNov 12 02:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 500 Internal Server Error .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 12 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Dear Canonical, since you like to shake things up, could you call netflix and get instant watch for ubuntu? http://ur1.ca/2bszl #redditNov 12 02:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dear Canonical, since you like to shake things up, could you call netflix and get instant watch for ubuntu? : linux .::. Size~: 313.84 KBNov 12 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] A more correct version - http://unitycoders.pastebin.com/hKwXemxpNov 12 02:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 12 02:11
Ender2070its only wordpress though thats getting crackedNov 12 02:11
ml2mstObviously the Vole's Munchkins wants to "silence" the "Linux Taliban" LOL :-pNov 12 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @lamm: I didn't go to Afghanistan&Iraq to protect your freedom, I was there to protect political/financial interests of the super richNov 12 02:12
ml2msthttp://www.pwnage.ca is back up again! YajNov 12 02:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pwnage.ca - Home of a Hacker Blog .::. Size~: 51.34 KBNov 12 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @lamm: The exploitation of veterans for govt propaganda is only slightly less disgusting than sending us to war in the first place.Nov 12 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @eff: Update: a donor just pledged to match new donations! Donate to EFF now through Paypal to double your impact. https://eff.org/r.t9UNov 12 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito yeah man, I'm sure this will be the next !android developer phoneNov 12 02:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PayPal's Matching Challenge | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 18.06 KBNov 12 02:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101112 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 12 02:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Kernel Archives .::. Size~: 31.5 KBNov 12 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Pretty funny! I lol'ed: ♻ @ubuntutwo ENFORCEMENT: @bkuhn sues @gregkh for denting !Linux source code under GPL-incompatible CC-BY license.Nov 12 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @tr0n: :-D gracias CNTI RT @cnti Declaración de Caracas. Documento que proclama la "Libertad de Software" http://uuc.me/uHGNov 12 02:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @eff: Boycott Nokia Siemens for Selling Anti-Dissident Tech to Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81jqFWkvxUNov 12 02:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Meego Handset #chroot on !N900 http://is.gd/gXfBR http://is.gd/gXfBY http://is.gd/gXfC2Nov 12 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz @glynmoody I wonder what would happen if people started undressing before getting into the airporn scannersNov 12 02:36
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qole's Law: Thinly Sliced Cabbage: Running Meego Handset in an N900 chroot with Easy Debian: Part 2 .::. Size~: 41.92 KBNov 12 02:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qole's Law: Thinly Sliced Cabbage: N900 Meego chroot part 3: polishing the process .::. Size~: 22.88 KBNov 12 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @kronos: viene la peor época del año.. recuerdo que en lugar de renos queremos Gnu y en lugar de Madog queremos a RMSNov 12 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @lxoliva,I've considered taking trousers off voluntarily to make a point. Also,last time I traveled,TSA pat-down inspector touched my testesNov 12 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @bkuhn: Pretty funny! I lol'ed: ♻ @ubuntutwo @bkuhn sues @gregkh for denting Linux source code under GPL-incompatible CC-BY license.Nov 12 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I didn't know you had copyrights in #Linux cf. http://lwn.net/Articles/247872/Nov 12 02:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Relicensing: what's legal and what's right [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 120.44 KBNov 12 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn actually whether !CC-BY is !GPL incompatible is an interesting question; I think it probably isNov 12 02:46
Ender2070yeah its back upNov 12 02:50
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ZiomatrixKINpocalipse has returned! http://bit.ly/b0nicU I wonder how much MS. has dolled out on loan to pull this one off?Nov 12 02:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PPCGeeks.com » Q4 Road Map Leaked from Verizon!  .::. Size~: 33.97 KBNov 12 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, You do realize that @ubuntutwo was just making a joke, right? This is like debating viability of Onion headlines, you realize?Nov 12 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @bkuhn Pretty funny! I lol'ed: ♻ @ubuntutwo ENFORCEMENT: @bkuhn sues @gregkh for denting !Linux source code under GPL-incompatible CC ...Nov 12 02:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Can't upload #GPS traces in #Openstreetmap using my #Garmin #nuvi 760; no #Nutrack in #Fedora :( http://is.gd/gXiHt #gnu #linuxNov 12 03:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Fedora Plans For Wayland: In recent days we have been talking a lot about Ubuntu's plans to deploy the Wayla... http://bit.ly/9sLBgXNov 12 03:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn of course, but those are still legitimate issuesNov 12 03:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Fedora Plans For Wayland .::. Size~: 17.25 KBNov 12 03:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @ubuntutwo: INCEPTION: Hacker finds he can gain root privileges by opening a screen within a screen within a screen. #gnuscreenNov 12 03:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Notorious FIGNov 12 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] !NaNoWriMo day 11 word count 26102 - passed the halfway point today. http://baldynovel.blogspot.com/Nov 12 03:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] ...and so begins the bacon apple ciderNov 12 03:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Fedora Plans For Wayland: In recent days we have been talking a lot about Ubuntu's plans to deploy the Wayla... http://bit.ly/9sLBgXNov 12 03:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Fedora Plans For Wayland .::. Size~: 17.22 KBNov 12 03:39
ZiomatrixHas anyone tried Fedora 14?Nov 12 03:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @phoronix The Fedora Plans For Wayland: In recent days we have been talking a lot about Ubuntu's plans to deploy the Wayla... http:// ...Nov 12 03:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @shocm: Facebook's Eroding Privacy Policy: A Timeline | Electronic Frontier Foundation http://ow.ly/38ylFNov 12 03:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: AdaFruit Industries pays out bounty on open source drivers for Kinect https://eff.org/r.u6cNov 12 03:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Boycott Nokia Siemens for Selling Anti-Dissident Tech to Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81jqFWkvxUNov 12 03:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Facebook's Eroding Privacy Policy: A Timeline | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.6 KBNov 12 03:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WE HAVE A WINNER  Open Kinect driver(s) released  Winner will use $3k for more hacking  PLUS an additional $2k goes to the EFF! «  adafruit industries blog .::. Size~: 95 KBNov 12 03:44
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Ender2070I haveNov 12 03:51
Ender2070its amazingNov 12 03:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: RT @nettuts A Beginner’s Introduction to HTTP and REST http://bit.ly/a4XlxNNov 12 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks Ban or Global Secrecy Act? http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/111110c.htmlNov 12 03:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito wow I'm also surprisedNov 12 04:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @johnkoetsier: The Brutal Decline Of Yahoo Is Now An Infographic http://tcrn.ch/9Fi8MQNov 12 04:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching The Big Bang TheoryNov 12 04:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   The Brutal Decline Of Yahoo Is Now An Infographic  .::. Size~: 50.19 KBNov 12 04:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: Ubuntu 11.04 – Screenshots, Guides, Overview, What’s New, Features : http://ur1.ca/2brqfNov 12 04:06
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ZiomatrixEnder2070: which desktop did you use, was it KDE. Did it have Compiz?Nov 12 04:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #nikitaNov 12 04:22
Ender2070KDENov 12 04:28
Ender2070i can turn it on and offNov 12 04:28
Ender2070not compizNov 12 04:28
Ender2070kwinNov 12 04:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @wikileaks: EU Parliamentarian @MarietjeD66 demands answers on US behavior to WikiLeaks http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ipc33Jsb7-gNov 12 04:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Can't upload #GPS traces in #Openstreetmap using my #Garmin #nuvi 760; no #Nutrack in #Ubuntu :( http://is.gd/gXiHt #gnu #linuxNov 12 04:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy #Remembrance Day: A True !Canadian Hero's Life Story in Past Tense: “The King of the Waterfront” http://ur1.ca/2buav #cdnpoliNov 12 05:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The King of the Waterfront « Past Tense .::. Size~: 42.82 KBNov 12 05:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] trying out #pydentica. #cliNov 12 05:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost ok my bad.Nov 12 05:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost I get the same error as @psquidNov 12 05:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] “The more reasons you have for achieving your goal, the more determined you will become.” – Brian Tracy http://bit.ly/d5nqByNov 12 05:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chris Savarese Blog | Savarese News .::. Size~: 10.39 KBNov 12 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost am trying it out on #sabayon. let me try it on my debian box.Nov 12 05:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva I wonder what would happen if people started undressing before getting into the airporn scannersNov 12 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva at this stage, you won't be admitted into th scanner, but also expelled from the airport."Well, you were gonna see me naked ANYWAY"Nov 12 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost same error on #debianNov 12 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst re "I'll try again today, OK? Best wishes!" come to IRC, we'll do the recordingNov 12 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Just had an absolutely rocking Severed Fifth rehearsal - bring on the show tomorrow! Get ready, Livermore! #severedfifthNov 12 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #followfriday @gbraad @lnxwalt140 @normnz @laurelrusswurm @rsandu @jospoortvliet @qu1j0t3 @claudiomNov 12 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost k.Nov 12 05:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ubuntu 11.04 Developer Summit Proceedings Now Available - http://is.gd/gXwLk #ubuntuNov 12 06:12
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qu1j0t3haz fedora guru here?Nov 12 06:23
qu1j0t3Ender2070 maybe?Nov 12 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Time to Throw in the Towel on Zune, Which Becomes a Public Embarrassment http://ur.ly/tsS3 #zune #kinNov 12 06:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Security Problems in #iOS and #Windows http://ur.ly/tvJs #apple #microsoft #adobetrashNov 12 06:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security Problems in iOS and Windows | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.64 KBNov 12 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mono is for #Microsoft and #Microsoft F# Loves Miguel de Icaza http://ur.ly/t7xv looks like lots of love. #fsharpNov 12 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh I didn't mention the word 'trust'. Amazon controls Kindle users&they're helpless. Fedora doesn't control it users & they're empoweredNov 12 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh & tbh, that's a very new kind of FUD. Again, I couldn't find 1 example of antifeature in fs. Saying they're equal is clearly wrong.Nov 12 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Something really crazy happened yday. When I started #gnus, it cleared the whole spool file. I had #mutt and #fetchmail running then. !emacsNov 12 07:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #Security Problems in #iOS and #Windows http://ur.ly/tvJs #apple #microsoft #adobetrashNov 12 07:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Another sunny day, ready for some !identicurse-ing :)Nov 12 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #BUSC Richard III flyer !lo http://ur1.ca/2bva9Nov 12 07:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #BUSC Richard III flyer (Rückseite) http://ur1.ca/2bvajNov 12 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Hacker wins bounty for first Open Source M$ Kinekt driver: http://ur1.ca/2bfu4Nov 12 07:42
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: WE HAVE A WINNER  Open Kinect driver(s) released  Winner will use $3k for more hacking  PLUS an additional $2k goes to the EFF! «  adafruit industries blog .::. Size~: 97.17 KBNov 12 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yippie kay-yay! Just nuked @vssufbimkgr for spamming. Burn in hell!Nov 12 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I wonder if they asked @jonobacon for permission..... http://ur1.ca/2bvcr - "My First Bacon" plush toyNov 12 07:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EU Plan to Potentially Welcome Software Patents is Finally Defeated http://ur.ly/tiZd #swpats #eu #ffii #patents #epo #usptoNov 12 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] The !crunchbang !linux Decruftification Services tshirt http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/10186/decruftification-services-tshirt/ :-)Nov 12 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Time for Congressional Action to Abolish Software Patents http://ur.ly/torS #swpats #usptoNov 12 08:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, got some work to do. Either firewall, dns server, or apache is messing with a few domains.Nov 12 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Twitter message sentence upheld !lo !outlawstory http://bit.ly/au7dNvNov 12 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My delete button doesn't work with !identicurse, have to use backspace :(Nov 12 08:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Twitter joke trial: Paul Chambers loses appeal against conviction | UK news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 78.66 KBNov 12 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] i + dent + Enter mysteriously works again on !identicurse. No need for Ctrl + g :)Nov 12 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Would you trust facebook with your email? http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/11/facebook-gmail-titan/Nov 12 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Facebooks Gmail Killer, Project Titan, Is Coming On Monday  .::. Size~: 52.18 KBNov 12 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The 94-CD Arthur Rubinstein Collection on Spotify - http://bit.ly/clINyg fascinating set #spotify #rubinsteinNov 12 08:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spotify Classical Playlists: The 94-CD Arthur Rubinstein Collection on Spotify .::. Size~: 77.55 KBNov 12 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If Other Industries Were As Evil as the RIAA - http://bit.ly/cRIpe2 is this what #ACTA will bring?Nov 12 08:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Facebook’s Gmail Killer, Project Titan, Is Coming On Monday - http://tcrn.ch/9fFnqx let's hope its standards-based #facebook #emailNov 12 08:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Facebooks Gmail Killer, Project Titan, Is Coming On Monday  .::. Size~: 52.18 KBNov 12 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free society conference – my experience - http://bit.ly/b7EF7n useful roundup of very rich #fscons conference #freeswNov 12 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just received the greatest boxed set ever in the history of music! OoNov 12 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Fine Line Between Legitimate Think Tank And Industry Shills - http://bit.ly/9qZxev important point (& links to great post)Nov 12 08:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Fine Line Between Legitimate Think Tank And Industry Shills | Techdirt .::. Size~: 51.84 KBNov 12 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Testing...Nov 12 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Testing again...Nov 12 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] South Tyrol's Head of IT announces #pdfreaders bugfix live on state #SFScon #ftw !fsfeNov 12 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] South Tyrol's head of IT: "If it's paid by public funds, it needs to be available to the public" << couldn't agree more !fsfe #SFSconNov 12 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Metalcasting Breakthrough - http://bit.ly/c5M37l cool #3dprinting #castsNov 12 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Attacking my countryman Oliva now ? ZDnet is more and more outlandish.Nov 12 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fabbaloo - Fabbaloo Blog - Metalcasting Breakthrough .::. Size~: 45.12 KBNov 12 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Great Scott! Over 35 Hours of Video Uploaded Every Minute to YouTube - http://bit.ly/aq54Oq good luck monitoring *that* #youtubeNov 12 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Ha, MSO 2010 is simply a rehash. A pig they just have put a new lipstick on.Nov 12 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube UK Blog: Great Scott! Over 35 Hours of Video Uploaded Every Minute to YouTube .::. Size~: 72.25 KBNov 12 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @agentsmith the reference to the 40K winblow$ phones please.Nov 12 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Next two nicked from Boing Boing.Nov 12 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] If Other Industries Were As Evil as the RIAA - http://is.gd/gXLzsNov 12 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] HOWTO make art without getting "ripped off" online - http://is.gd/gXLEpNov 12 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New version of !Termlink out: http://ur1.ca/2bw3u - includes happy Vault Boy helper and all new code under the hood (wget fallback included)Nov 12 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Thanks to @thp for all his hard work on !Termlink :)Nov 12 09:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Commits in termlink/mainline:master - Gitorious .::. Size~: 19.04 KBNov 12 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] re #pdfreaders, s/state/stageNov 12 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @harishpillay Just a moment.Nov 12 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @harishpillay Here http://ur1.ca/2bw5yNov 12 09:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Sells 40K Windows 7 Phones - TheStreet .::. Size~: 83.07 KBNov 12 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Fedora devs on switching to #Wayland: it's likely to happen eventually because it's a serious win for a lot of things http://goo.gl/dvHoONov 12 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Baidu Won China - http://bit.ly/b3COBk excellent profile of Chinese search giant and its boss #china #baidu #googleNov 12 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Baidu Won China - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 54.58 KBNov 12 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog: !Debian Squeeze artwork selected by the desktop team http://goo.gl/8oei8Nov 12 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Indicator-headphones: making sound schemes symbolic http://goo.gl/g3EzRNov 12 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Small tool to change the login window appearance http://goo.gl/ydEYnNov 12 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jolibook – Jolicloud’s very own netbook http://goo.gl/lIo4VNov 12 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Small tool to change the login window appearance  .::. Size~: 33.49 KBNov 12 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jolibook  Joliclouds very own netbook .::. Size~: 38.1 KBNov 12 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ♻ @rogawa: RT @dump: RT @planetagnulinux: Kinect já foi hackeado, driver para Linux lançado: Ele levou apenas 3 horas http://bit.ly/9WRPocNov 12 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] #pdfreaders 3 German institutions have already removed the non-free advertisement from their website! http://ur1.ca/2bw9uNov 12 09:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Liste der gemeldeten Einrichtungen – Freie PDF-Betrachter – FSFE .::. Size~: 576.16 KBNov 12 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Miguel de Icaza: F# Goes Open Source http://goo.gl/Gtaiu are we happy or should I feel worried about it?Nov 12 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mobile phone viruses in China affecting well over 1 million phones - http://bit.ly/dibQjr anyone know what operating system this is? #chinaNov 12 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mobile phone viruses in China affecting well over 1 million phones .::. Size~: 101.65 KBNov 12 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @agentsmith thanks. it hilarious.Nov 12 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open source #Jolicloud’s netbook will launch first in the UK [Video] - http://bit.ly/9GA1Ax sounds good - but does it stand a chance?Nov 12 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://ur1.ca/2bwde - I uploaded a video to youtube: Screencast of BeTrains for the n900 (maemo) - Other Qt (eg Symbian) apps soon!Nov 12 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Exclusive: Joliclouds netbook will launch first in the UK [Video]  .::. Size~: 38.52 KBNov 12 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - BeTrains for Maemo   .::. Size~: 109.92 KBNov 12 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Death X.0 http://bit.ly/9qStys sorry, this one is a lil morbid, and it may also get you thinkingNov 12 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] distrowatch.com top ten 1 to 10 1Ubuntu2196Nov 12 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] nt1504Nov 12 09:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Death X.0 | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 24.93 KBNov 12 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] an1047Nov 12 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @harishpillay Indeed, a LOUSY company with LOUSY products. ;-DNov 12 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Inkaktus Prole - Nice Brazilian new band - http://youtu.be/F-hTOhnUC4M And you can download their songs...Nov 12 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to the newly remastered version of Darkness on the Edge of Town.Nov 12 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Got a Google App inventor beta-test invite. Awesome, but it requires me to install the oracle JDK instead of openjdk. #notGoingToHappenNov 12 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just downloaded !fedora, going for a vbox testdrive. Really like the new website. http://fedoraproject.org/Nov 12 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @agentsmith and they think that an ad like this will sell more of their stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHlN21ebeakNov 12 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Really: New Windows Phone 7 Official Ad   .::. Size~: 136.96 KBNov 12 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @harishpillay Actually, the opposite effect. Scare buyers away... LOLNov 12 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff TDF Public Steering Committee ConfCall in approx. 4 hours: http://ur1.ca/26ldc !libo !tdfNov 12 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @agentsmith exactly. when you have truckloads of cash, you don't have to think about value.Nov 12 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @harishpillay Man, i just feel sorry M$ still has enormous power. A company like that, should have gone years ago.Nov 12 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @harishpillay Gone bankrupt, that is.Nov 12 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #pydentica still tripping. installed it but it won't run. statusnet import module errorNov 12 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Are there any mockups or screenshots of your gtk-based tweet view for @Gwibber, @njpatel « Reading » http://ow.ly/38EVDNov 12 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qaiku | RT @njpatel: Working on a faster gtk-based tweet view for #Gwibber. It's actually working! Has accessibility and proper keynav too :) .::. Size~: 26.86 KBNov 12 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] US government has compiled a helpful list of the best piracy sites: http://ur1.ca/2atzx I'm sure it will deter piracy http://ow.ly/38F0UNov 12 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: World's most "notorious" piracy market: the Internet .::. Size~: 32.2 KBNov 12 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qaiku | US government has compiled a helpful list of the best piracy sites: http://ur1.ca/2atzx I'm sure it will deter piracy! OH WAIT... .::. Size~: 26.85 KBNov 12 10:34
oiaohmReally let be sporting lest define best as the most virus infected.Nov 12 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pickles squashes bid to charge for FOI requests - http://bit.ly/dAtv2p want to save money? make it all available as a matter of course #foiNov 12 10:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Freedom of Information Blog: Pickles squashes bid to charge for FOI requests .::. Size~: 50.88 KBNov 12 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Pickles squashes bid to charge for FOI requests - http://bit.ly/dAtv2p save money make it available as matter of course #foi /via @glynmoodyNov 12 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] finally I got #pydentica to work. sweet!Nov 12 10:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Freedom of Information Blog: Pickles squashes bid to charge for FOI requests .::. Size~: 50.88 KBNov 12 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost good stuff man.Nov 12 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The Oracle-Google litigation is warming up. This Groklaw analysis is well worth reading: http://icio.us/bmsbazNov 12 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Bowls a Googly - http://bit.ly/9o9v5B #Google gives us some hope that it hasn't done something really stupid with #AndroidNov 12 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Google Files Sizzling Answer to Oracle's Amended Complaint and its Opposition to Motion to Dismiss - updated .::. Size~: 169.95 KBNov 12 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Bowls a Googly - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 55.28 KBNov 12 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In Pictures: A New Bus For London - http://bit.ly/dkx4Md rather fetching, if somewhat expensive #bus #londonNov 12 10:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Pictures: A New Bus For London - Londonist .::. Size~: 34.78 KBNov 12 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @mmasnick Murdoch: "1st rule of monetizing content is that you should not give it away for free" Um: TV? Radio? >>just plain wrongNov 12 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Hm. Seems like app inventor works just fine with openjdk. Awesome stuff!Nov 12 10:54
MinceRr4wrNov 12 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Four Reasons To Pay Extra For Open Source - my slides from #SFSCON Bolzano this morning: http://icio.us/2rlybrNov 12 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Photos of the amazing Darkness box set that was released today: http://fabsh.smugmug.com/Music/Darkness-on-the-Edge-of-Town !BruceNov 12 11:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.26 KBNov 12 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Marketing ConfCall recording available from http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls#11-Nov-2011 !tdf !liboNov 12 11:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marketing/ConfCalls - The Document Foundation Wiki .::. Size~: 20.65 KBNov 12 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !listening to progressive #trance www.filtermusic.netNov 12 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus Christ..... "Badlands" has to be the best album opener in the history of Rock & Roll.....Nov 12 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] week flew right by me into another weekend #tgifNov 12 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @DaHammerstein #sccr21 Global South now supports Treaty for Blind + other copyright exceptions. Extremist France and US block agreement.Nov 12 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Kindness should become the natural way of life, not the exception.(Buddha)Nov 12 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @DaHammerstein #sccr21 Delpine Lida, French rep at WIPO on personal crusade against "the right to read" of blind persons >>shame on youNov 12 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rob Weir Argues TalkStandards.com is Fronting for Microsoft, Steve Mutkoski (Microsoft) to Lobby for Patented Standards http://ur.ly/tx2lNov 12 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Tale Of A Visually Impaired Reader - http://bit.ly/cFFgHl so France and US want to fight against people like him? unbelievable #sccr21Nov 12 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IBMs Rob Weir Argues TalkStandards.com is Fronting for Microsoft, Steve Mutkoski (Microsoft) to Lobby for Patented Standards at Transformational Government Workshop | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.05 KBNov 12 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Property Watch  » Blog Archive   » A Tale Of A Visually Impaired Reader .::. Size~: 48.56 KBNov 12 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @gbraad: #Meego Handset #chroot on #N900 http://is.gd/gXfBR http://is.gd/gXfBY http://is.gd/gXfC2Nov 12 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Interesting article on LibreOffice & OpenOffice (I'm in it): http://j.mp/dcJMGtNov 12 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qole's Law: Thinly Sliced Cabbage: Running Meego Handset in an N900 chroot with Easy Debian: Part 1 .::. Size~: 31.55 KBNov 12 11:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qole's Law: Thinly Sliced Cabbage: N900 Meego chroot part 3: polishing the process .::. Size~: 23.75 KBNov 12 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @erack: Cool, !Hamburg already reacted on #pdfreaders campaign http://is.gd/gXViK and on http://is.gd/gXW1B points to pdfreaders.orgNov 12 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @fsfe: #pdfreaders 3 German institutions have already removed the non-free advertisement from their website! http://ur1.ca/2bw9uNov 12 11:38
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: PDF - Umwandeln - freie Software - nutzen -Anbieterunabhängig      - Stadt Hamburg .::. Size~: 51.81 KBNov 12 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] MS Kinect hacked already lol ya have to laugh at MS's attempts to limit their customers http://bbc.in/cOIKP6Nov 12 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @bkuhn: lol'ed: ♻ @ubuntutwo ENFORCEMENT: @bkuhn sues @gregkh for denting !Linux source code under GPL-incompatible CC-BY license.Nov 12 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Kinect hacked days after release .::. Size~: 50.2 KBNov 12 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Pinguy OS 10.10 Has Been Released [Ubuntu Remaster] http://bit.ly/bFHEwENov 12 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Meta Backup Makes It Easy To Export All Installed Applications And PPAs To Another Computer http://bit.ly/c8PqmINov 12 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] 3 Beautiful Conky Configurations http://bit.ly/bgsXhhNov 12 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install Compiz 0.9.2.1 In Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat http://bit.ly/dm7IsINov 12 11:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Meta Backup Makes It Easy To Export All Installed Applications And PPAs To Another Computer ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.38 KBNov 12 11:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 3 Beautiful Conky Configurations ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.45 KBNov 12 11:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Install Compiz 0.9.2.1 In Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 69.53 KBNov 12 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've said it before and I'll say it again: Max Weinberg is the best fucking drummer of this 'verse!Nov 12 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] am really liking !pydentica. you can do a lot with this.Nov 12 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow..... Say what you want about him, but Uwe Boll gets his Nazi uniforms right. Can't be said about Tarantino....Nov 12 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fuck me.... The '78 version of Racing in the Street has a *violin* in it? OoNov 12 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This is very jazzy.... Amazing. !Bruce never fails to surprise me, even with material that's 30 years old....Nov 12 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to Bruce Springsteen's The Promise - released todayNov 12 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] So amazing that even the stuff Bruce cuts from his records is better than anything 99.9% of all other musicians could ever produce...Nov 12 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft XPS/Metro Appears to be Dead http://ur.ly/t71y #xps #metro #pdfNov 12 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @webmink Not necessarily. That's what AGPL is for, remember? ;)Nov 12 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] p2pnet news » Blog Archive » Due for release, Kareem Amer still in jail http://www.p2pnet.net/story/45674Nov 12 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] FREEDOM!!!!! .... in the CLOUD! :DNov 12 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fabsh AGPL does not ensure the key ingredient - operations know-how - is freely available.Nov 12 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] Pretty please! RT @techradar: Please help us reach 2,500 Facebook Likes: http://www.facebook.com/TechRadarNov 12 12:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @webmink Well, but it guarantees software feedom, doesn't it? I mean, I have no clue how the kernel works either...Nov 12 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] p2pnet news » Blog Archive » DIY 3D printing. The threat. http://www.p2pnet.net/story/45680Nov 12 12:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Frak me.... This version of Because the Night is teh shits!!!!Nov 12 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] The most amazing Matrix knock-off ever — co-starring Coolio! http://ur1.ca/2bxkxNov 12 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] They can't hurt us now........ :)Nov 12 12:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The most amazing Matrix knock-off ever &mdash; co-starring Coolio! .::. Size~: 85.06 KBNov 12 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: FastSVG Looks good. #SVG - ex 3D tag could in SVG - http://fastsvg.com/TagCloud.svg http://bit.ly/cle5SKNov 12 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] What killed Caprica? http://io9.com/5687723/what-killed-capricaNov 12 12:19
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Narendra Sisodiya: FastSVG Looks good. #SVG - ... .::. Size~: 12.58 KBNov 12 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @webmink, I don't necessarily agree that operations know-how is essential for software freedom. I agree it's good if it's publicly availableNov 12 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bkuhn: I don't necessarily agree that operations know-how is essential for software freedom. I agree it's good if it's publicly availableNov 12 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Heh.... Candy's Boy. Interesting take on Candy's Room.....Nov 12 12:31
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schestowitzAnyone around?Nov 12 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @arnebab, Mutual compatibility of different copylefts ( !GPL & #CC-By-SA) may actually be impossible. #CC-By is different matter, though.Nov 12 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New !termlink version. http://ur1.ca/2bxqb - Thanks to @jonkulp for a help functionNov 12 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @arnebab, I'm going to have to study #CC-By in detail, but the license feature that you describe is potentially compatible via !GPL v3§7(b).Nov 12 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] An identi.ca spammer just told me directly that he has "a #nervous #execrable for you #added to #chunky #major #glucose". Sounds disgusting!Nov 12 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @osamak, #IMAP backend of !Emacs !Gnus can do some *really* funky sometimes; I treat it like a delicate flower. Glad they're rewriting it.Nov 12 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn WTF!? OoNov 12 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Funky version of "Fire".... :)Nov 12 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] What Alcohol Actually Does to Your Brain and Body http://ur1.ca/2bxslNov 12 12:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What Alcohol Actually Does to Your Brain and Body .::. Size~: 99.57 KBNov 12 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, Wouldn't call having no #Linux © a "legitimate issue", but rather "something I wish I had skills to do". #CC-By issue is legit.Nov 12 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @bkuhn nnimap works great with (nnimap-stream ssl) in !emacs from #bzrNov 12 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It's unbelievable how many songs Bruce can write to one tune. He just keeps shuffling the lyrics. :DNov 12 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "There's a man on the radio says Elvis Presley died... Come on, let's go tonight." :(Nov 12 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Technology News: Tablets: Galaxy vs. iPad: Clash of the Tablet Titans http://ur1.ca/2bxw2Nov 12 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh sounds a bit like Status QuoNov 12 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Deutschland! Deutschland! http://ur1.ca/2bxwdNov 12 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh yep, I've successfully managed to spare myself that variant of hellNov 12 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] nice http://londonist.com/2010/11/in_pictures_a_new_bus_for_london.php?gallery0Pic=4#gallery looks like a prop from Judge Dredd thoughNov 12 12:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Pictures: A New Bus For London - Londonist .::. Size~: 34.79 KBNov 12 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @trashbird1240, years ago (in pre- !Emacs 21 days), I used to run out of CVS trunk. I don't know if I've the fortitude to do similar again.Nov 12 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Technology News: Home Tech: Can a Plain Old PC Beat Google TV and Apple TV? http://ur1.ca/2bxxjNov 12 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb You have no idea what you talk about. If you only know the stuff from the charts you have no clue at all what he's about...Nov 12 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @bkuhn It's remarkably stable: I've had no serious problems; any that I've had are far outweighed by new features (themes) and fixes (!gnus)Nov 12 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Technology News: Community: Deep Thoughts on Being a Geek http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Deep-Thoughts-on-Being-a-Geek-71215.htmlNov 12 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] No waaaaaay....... Oo Electric version of The Promise! Shit! This should've been on the album! Wanna see that live now!!!Nov 12 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @lamm I didn't go to #Afghanistan & #Iraq to protect your freedom, I was there to protect political/financial interests of the super ...Nov 12 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just saw that The Promise isn't even released in the US yet. That's weird.... OoNov 12 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "I won big once and I hit the coast / But somehow I paid the big cost"Nov 12 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @gavincarr: You #facebook junkies should be checking this out: http://isharedwhat.com/Nov 12 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Inside I felt like I was carryin' the broken spirits / Of all the other ones who lost / When the promise is broken you go on living"Nov 12 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @trashbird1240,I believe you,but I'm getting old, you see. Idea of running out of trunk/master is now #disturbing to me rather than excitingNov 12 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Linaro 10.11 released http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-announce/2010-November/000025.html Linux optimized for !ARMNov 12 13:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I Shared What?!? Login .::. Size~: 4.48 KBNov 12 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hahahahaha!!! Hidden bonus track! LOLNov 12 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] love Creative Commons, but whoever designed the search UI must have been on LCDNov 12 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @thistleweb,disparaging remarks about Bruce Springsteen is just too trivial a way to troll @fabsh. You should pick more challenging topics.☺Nov 12 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn LOL. You can say about him what you want. This is the one topic where I approach religion so I *know* I'm always right! :DNov 12 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, Reports that I'm a genetically engineering super human who's banished to a desert planet & seeks revenge on everyone are exaggeratedNov 12 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn lol yeah true, to me Bruce is just big stage 80's MOR PR-patriotic AmericanaNov 12 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Only slightly. You were banished to a flat in New York if I understand correctly. :DNov 12 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @thistleweb, even *I* can tell you you've misunderstood in that regard. e.g., "Born in USA" is scathing indictment of trickle-down economicsNov 12 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh jeez.... Whenever @bkuhn's face comes up now, I mentally put him in a Ricardo Montalban wig.... XxNov 12 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-11-12: Four Reasons To Pay Extra For Open Source My slides from today's presentation in Bolzano,... http://bit.ly/bc8z6VNov 12 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn I guess that happens when the music is bland enough that you don't pay attention to the lyricsNov 12 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] I love procmail. Thank you, procmail.Nov 12 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn And a strong anti-war anthem at that. Bruce said in an interview he gets pissed off by kids singing the first verse at Halloween.Nov 12 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @thistleweb ... in addition to being a poignant criticism of Cold War Containment theory. (there you go, @fabsh, I'm defending you. :)Nov 12 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Oh noes. My sister bought an apple. I asked her to videochat with me through gtalk, but apparently she couldn't get it to work. #fail #ichatNov 12 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn any music, ya have to like the voice of the singer, which me & Bruce have never seen eye to eye on, everything else stems from thatNov 12 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Kinect hacked - Working on Linux, 3 hours after launch. http://ur1.ca/2bfqvNov 12 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn ie not the one that starts "Got in a little hometown jam / So they put a rifle in my hand"Nov 12 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] My other sister: they were running linux on airplanes because when it crashed there was a black screen. Windows uses blue screens she saidNov 12 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Kinect hackeado - Funcionando no Linux 3 horas depois do lançamento. http://ur1.ca/2bfqvNov 12 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Standardized code and tools optimized for !ARM !Linaro 10.11 released #Linux http://is.gd/gY7wg http://is.gd/gY7wsNov 12 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Appreciated. :DNov 12 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @thistleweb, you & Ronald Reagan. He & George Will famously during the 1984 campaign misunderstood Springsteen's entirely in a PR failure.Nov 12 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Kinect open source driver demo   .::. Size~: 126.49 KBNov 12 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linaro releases first code, demos on Cortex-A9 SoCs - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.3 KBNov 12 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] now for them #podcasts #gpodderNov 12 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb You need to listen to "Nebraska". Seriously.Nov 12 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn The story how Jon Landau (his manager) told the Reagan campaign to "fuck off" is pretty funny...Nov 12 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, I'm not into Springsteen music like you, but IMO stealth political messaging he did during the really shitty 1980s here was awesome!Nov 12 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Note about last tweet: crashed → the tv-screen, not the plane | Told her I've never seen a stable linux kernel crash - Now explaining kernelNov 12 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @teirdes with terms like "nonderivative" and "noncommercial" the consumer CAN'T become a producer #ecommons #creativecommons #anticommonsNov 12 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds it was a good episodeNov 12 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, in fact, it was Springsteen who first convinced me that it was even possible non-punk mainstream music could actually be political.Nov 12 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb @bkuhn That was in the Velodrome in Berlin in 2002. Will never forget that night...Nov 12 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @pietercolpaert maybe you can have some #facetime with her. #IRL is so much better quality ;-)Nov 12 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Linux Mint 10 "Julia" Has Been Released http://goo.gl/maTnpNov 12 13:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 "Julia" Has Been Released ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.69 KBNov 12 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Many people were very surprised when he first endorsed a candidate for Vote of Change b/c they thought he "wasn't political". LOL....Nov 12 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cloud OS crowd readies own-brand netbook http://ur.ly/tAa4 fantastic. !gnu !linux on #netbooksNov 12 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cloud OS crowd readies own-brand netbook • reghardware .::. Size~: 18.94 KBNov 12 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @seeds Technology News: Tablets: Galaxy vs. iPad: Clash of the Tablet Titans http://ur1.ca/2bxw2Nov 12 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh,yeah,"banished" is definitely the right word there. OTOH, !NYC is probably the 4th place I'd pick to live from all the world's citiesNov 12 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Evaluating desktop !Linux systems mini review http://ur.ly/txyx something for everyone, explains Brian MasinickNov 12 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram yea it definitely was one of the better onesNov 12 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo Mauricio Piacentini: Last week in QtGStreamer – a recap (and an overview of GStreamer) http://dlvr.it/8R2pYNov 12 13:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brian Masinick Blog: Evaluating desktop Linux systems mini review .::. Size~: 29.11 KBNov 12 13:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last week in QtGStreamer  a recap (and an overview of GStreamer) | Code diary .::. Size~: 23.48 KBNov 12 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Ever been to Brisbane or Sidney?Nov 12 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !Mint 10 is out, get it while it's hotNov 12 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, yeah,1st & 3rd stanzas are where it subtly talks of 70s USA economics, while the main theme is Containment Theory. Well constructed!Nov 12 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn I couldn't live like that. I have soooo many memories attached to Bruce songs. To hear his voice instantly makes me feel at home...Nov 12 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When a blogger dresses up Tux as a devil, writes "Fail" on it, and then uses offensive language to provoke, is it a troll? http://ur.ly/tApXNov 12 13:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Short Tale Of One Bloggers Frustrations With Linux .::. Size~: 54.85 KBNov 12 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn The man might be a filthy rich business man but he knows how to write songs... :)Nov 12 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RockMelt is proprietary, so why would anyone even consider it competitive? We have Opera/Safari for proprietary... http://ur.ly/twweNov 12 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] :) http://is.gd/gY99QNov 12 13:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RockMelt: 5 reasons to love it and one big reason not to | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 107.31 KBNov 12 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Ugh, I've been "at work" for nearly 1.25 hours & all I've done is post on identi.ca. I need to perform a self-dentervention & get work done!Nov 12 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz and Opera is actually good.Nov 12 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh I thought cots were unisex, now we have boycotts, do we have girlcotts too?Nov 12 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Term of the day: "linux butt troll" - this is the troll who says "I like Linux, but {excuse}." The latter part is FUD, former 4 credibility.Nov 12 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] TV Execs: Social Media Influence Still Anecdotal (PCWorld): http://bit.ly/9O8ituNov 12 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Sorry.... My fault. :/Nov 12 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox 4 Beta 7: Moving Toward Completion, Updated Extensions http://ur.ly/t842 support browsers driven by code+web, not shareholdersNov 12 13:48
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Firefox 4 Beta 7: Moving Toward Completion, Updated Extensions On Deck  .::. Size~: 45.77 KBNov 12 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM's cloudy object vision stoked by EU (The Register): http://bit.ly/9J1cfbNov 12 13:49
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schestowitzThe Linux 2.6.37 Kernel With EXT4 & Btrfs http://ur.ly/tCeU !gnu ☛ !linux ☛ OSes have some of the best filesystems out thereNov 12 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Linux 2.6.37 Kernel With EXT4 & Btrfs .::. Size~: 18.79 KBNov 12 13:50
schestowitzWhy I love Ubuntu http://ur.ly/tCKy talks about !gnome ☛ !gnu ☛ and !linux ☛ and not just the !ubuntu ☛ software distributionNov 12 13:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, Not your fault at all. There's no one to blame for my lack of self-discipline this morning but myself. It's been fun chatting today.Nov 12 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NYT Editor Doesn't Understand Why People Buy His Paper (The New York Observer): http://bit.ly/anGaP0Nov 12 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram indeedNov 12 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For some reason, #twitfolk has been dropping some dents it's supposed to receive from #identica . Not sure where the problem lies. Just us?Nov 12 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Ha, the man wants proprietary drivers and stuff to "just work" on Linux as they do in winblow$/MacOSX.Nov 12 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Time for a "Turing/Berners-Lee" Day? - http://bit.ly/a2PRMX it's a doubly-special day today: let's celebrate #turing #timbl #webNov 12 13:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Time for a "Turing/Berners-Lee" Day? .::. Size~: 66.79 KBNov 12 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Listening to @Allison_Crowe's cover of @AnnieLennox/Eurythmics classic "Sweet Dreams" premiere via @covermesongs http://ur1.ca/2byc4Nov 12 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Night Elf Desk | Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://www.flickr.com/photos/meskarune/5137086660/Nov 12 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Perhaps, he should try Winblow$ on mission critic scenarios. And then, blog about it, with Clippy dressed as devilNov 12 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Trouble sticking to my !NaNoWriMo writing goals, so today I'll unplug... no blogs... no identica/twitter as I shoot for 10k #amwriting #nanoNov 12 13:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Allison Crowe Shows Us What Sweet Dreams Are Made Of (Cover Me Premiere) | Cover Me .::. Size~: 81.43 KBNov 12 13:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Night Elf Desk | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 83.7 KBNov 12 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @glynmoody Suggest we call it 2Tea day #turing #timbl #britishNov 12 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kosovo official indicted for organ trafficking - http://bit.ly/cMlQ0h very nasty, if confirmed #kosovo #organtraffickingNov 12 13:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kosovo official indicted for organ trafficking | EurActiv .::. Size~: 49.63 KBNov 12 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Launching Emitter.ca: Open Data, Pollution and Your Community - http://bit.ly/awm4IJ nice idea, needs rolling out everywhere #opendata #caNov 12 13:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Launching Emitter.ca: Open Data, Pollution and Your Community | eaves.ca .::. Size~: 34.2 KBNov 12 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Except for Jack Wallen, I don't think #TechRepublic has anyone who is /not/ baiting/provoking !Linux for hits http://ur.ly/toYA see imageNov 12 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Day 2 of introducing students to the world of open source. Next: Host your own? http://ow.ly/38K1fNov 12 14:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux vs. Windows: Suspending logic and reason for blind faith | TechRepublic Out Loud | TechRepublic.com .::. Size~: 72.57 KBNov 12 14:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Introducing students to the world of open source: Day 2 | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.11 KBNov 12 14:03
schestowitzPeople behind Debian: Joey Hess of debhelper fame http://ur.ly/tfBZ people behind the freedom OS. !debian ☛Nov 12 14:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Distro Developers Need Dollars! | Eye On Linux .::. Size~: 86.92 KBNov 12 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, I suppose @otter 'll add said wig to his site & put some fine Corinthian leather in background. From hell's heart, I stab at @otter!Nov 12 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] I'd like to make a public service announcement. @schendje is a GOLDEN GOD. Here endeth the announcement.Nov 12 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Oh, I can get @jezra on the case.... Muwhahahahaha! :DNov 12 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Perhaps, should dress Tux as devil too. Trollish posts...Nov 12 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Kinect Contest: $2000 in prizes - http://bit.ly/cS8EI1 no, this is another one: turning into a new business model for #hackers #kinectNov 12 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Kinect Contest: $2000 in prizes .::. Size~: 52.08 KBNov 12 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith these amuse me. I don't want to feed them, just draw attention to new FUD.Nov 12 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Theregister features !fedora's ban on 'sqlninja' http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/11/fedora_hacker_tool_ban/ #interesting :-)Nov 12 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @qole Third post about #N900 #Meego chroot in #Maemo: http://bit.ly/9gkPlM Free! New image file and scripts in the box!Nov 12 14:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora bars SQLNinja hack tool • The Register .::. Size~: 29.53 KBNov 12 14:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qole's Law: Thinly Sliced Cabbage: N900 Meego chroot part 3: polishing the process .::. Size~: 23.75 KBNov 12 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz These fud/troll's posts really annoy me. And everytime, they R the same. Just change some words. But all alike.Nov 12 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Primary userbase for each browser [Pic] http://bit.ly/a9m03pNov 12 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ♻ @kolabsys: Kolab Systems @OpenRheinRhur: Christoph Wickert to speak about the Kolab Groupware Solution: http://is.gd/gXWdM #DE #orr2010Nov 12 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jackofkent RT @TwJokeTrialFund: Huge congratulations to @christt for the #IAmSpartacus hashtag, well done. >>indeedNov 12 14:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenRheinRuhr: Kolab .::. Size~: 6.94 KBNov 12 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @glynmoody I guess #IAmBrianAndSoIsMyWife was kinda longNov 12 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] University Begins Reporting All P2P Users to the Police - http://bit.ly/ddeIlP despite fact P2P has many legitimate uses #p2pNov 12 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Linux Mint 10 "Julia" Has Been Released http://bit.ly/9RIJ9lNov 12 14:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    University Begins Reporting All P2P Users to the Police | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 37.15 KBNov 12 14:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 "Julia" Has Been Released ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.52 KBNov 12 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @mrspuck: I knew it ... Powerpoint is directly from hell ... http://is.gd/gYc9S #lolNov 12 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith best response is not to feed/comment. I always skip them, this time couldn't help it.Nov 12 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL ♺ @mrspuck: I knew it ... Powerpoint is directly from hell ... http://is.gd/gYc9S #lolNov 12 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Joy of Tech comic... Geek, we hope this isn't your life. .::. Size~: 25.25 KBNov 12 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Joy of Tech comic... Geek, we hope this isn't your life. .::. Size~: 25.25 KBNov 12 14:19
schestowitzSome troll in COLA chose a new nym to attack me with, I think: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/98ce2244ee51da0c/fe5dda4bddea7b83Nov 12 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Where or where is Ron Schestowitz gone? -  comp.os.linux.advocacy |  Google Groups   .::. Size~: 260.74 KBNov 12 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn you seem to be unfamiliar with music before ~1976 :-)Nov 12 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] http://is.gd/gYcLv <- I simply cannot relate to this cartoon in any way.Nov 12 14:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Love Yourself « Mimi and Eunice .::. Size~: 62.2 KBNov 12 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Koch Industries Facts: A new website about 2010’s dirtiest opponent of clean energy - http://bit.ly/9wd4uk they'll love that #kochNov 12 14:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Koch Industries Facts:  A new website about 2010s dirtiest opponent of clean energy «  Climate Progress .::. Size~: 42.3 KBNov 12 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Come one! The one time @bkuhn is defending me and you have to ruin it...... ;)Nov 12 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !listening to #lottalinuxlinks #podcastNov 12 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Fedora 14 review http://ur.ly/tf5D 15 coming along... http://ur.ly/t4WLNov 12 14:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 14 review   LinuxBSDos.com .::. Size~: 67.79 KBNov 12 14:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Fedora 15 Has A Release Schedule, But Will It Be Met? .::. Size~: 17.86 KBNov 12 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Saying "radical" and being ignorant of the reality of day jobs really doesn't cover the gaps - http://is.gd/gYd7vNov 12 14:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Masters of Media » Geert Lovink: Critique of the Free and Open Keynote  .::. Size~: 46.41 KBNov 12 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To see what #Canonical #unity is all about try http://ur.ly/t9mO http://ur.ly/tfC2 Latest #Compiz too: http://ur.ly/t8Ah !gnome !ubuntuNov 12 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the flame for the #AsiaGames2010 was just litNov 12 14:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Compiz-based Unity coming to PPA tomorrow .::. Size~: 86.01 KBNov 12 14:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Give Ubuntu Unity a Try (Install it in Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick) | Hack Your Life! .::. Size~: 100.87 KBNov 12 14:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PPA! | smspillaz blog .::. Size~: 43.53 KBNov 12 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PlayOnLinux Brings Windows Games & Programs To !Linux http://ur.ly/toYC another native one: http://ur.ly/tkOsNov 12 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Hey Brandon, How R U ??? Cheers!!!Nov 12 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Gonna need your help, btw ;-)Nov 12 14:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PlayOnLinux Brings Windows Games & Programs To Linux .::. Size~: 32.08 KBNov 12 14:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Learning with TuxMath  .::. Size~: 38.42 KBNov 12 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Enhanced Fedora Fusion Linux 14 Mere Weeks Away http://ur.ly/tfC3 we talked about #Fedora Fusion in !tb episode 1 http://ur.ly/twwkNov 12 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jonkulp: Memo to people who stick their fingers right on non-touch computer screens: stop doing that.Nov 12 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn It's an inhibitor to the ability to exercise. A freedom you are unable to exercise is almost the same as one you don't have.Nov 12 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Enhanced Fedora Fusion Linux 14 Mere Weeks Away  .::. Size~: 41.06 KBNov 12 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Brandon Lozza Special at TechBytes Episode 1 .::. Size~: 34.16 KBNov 12 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The VAR Guy: "Yes, Oracle is among the site’s sponsors, as disclosed in the blog. " http://ur.ly/tkyx eek!Nov 12 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] The Birth of Altermodern | Adbusters Culturejammer Headquarters http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/88/birth-of-altermodern.htmlNov 12 14:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle Linux, Linux Kernels And Why You Should Care | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 63.17 KBNov 12 14:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Birth of Altermodern | Adbusters Culturejammer Headquarters .::. Size~: 69.5 KBNov 12 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @webmink, you must show that there's *no* hope you can exercise sw freedom (ala crypto lock-down). You haven't proved that for op know-how.Nov 12 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] wait, what ‘Building the WebM ecosystem’ ‘Content protection • DRM in HTML5 • DRM support… possible at codec, wrapper or HW’ #webm #drmNov 12 14:39
schestowitzHmmmmmmmmm..... odd news about AppleNov 12 14:40
schestowitzhttp://techcrunch.com/2010/11/12/apple-joins-openjdk-to-open-source-mac-os-x-java-technology/ What's the motive?Nov 12 14:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Apple Joins OpenJDK To Open Source Mac OS X Java Technology   .::. Size~: 51.91 KBNov 12 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] … from http://www.streamingmedia.com/conferences/west2010/presentations/SMWest-2010-WebM.pdfNov 12 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think it was "soft Corinthian leather"Nov 12 14:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 12 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, no I'm not, actually. I was speaking there re: 1980s context; I actually longed at time for 60s/70s when pop music was political.Nov 12 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Firefox 4 regains speed mojo - Computerworld http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9196258/Firefox_4_regains_speed_mojoNov 12 14:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 4 regains speed mojo - Computerworld .::. Size~: 84.64 KBNov 12 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu Developer Summit proceedings http://lwn.net/Articles/415135/rssNov 12 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @pookito reading the web‣m update pdf, fear it will be delayed to Android 3 devices, ‘First VP8 ASIC chips expected from vendors in Q1 2011’Nov 12 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Life’s journey is not to… - Goodmorning & Goodnight http://www.goodmorningandgoodnight.com/?p=2928Nov 12 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I can't verify one way or the other b/c all the clips of that commercial on teh interents appear to be in FLV codec format. :-/Nov 12 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Magic SysRq key - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReisubNov 12 14:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Lifes journey is not to& - Goodmorning & Goodnight .::. Size~: 8.77 KBNov 12 14:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Magic SysRq key - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 43.75 KBNov 12 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @pookito also ‘semiconductor manufacturers working to support WebM… TI OMAP 4: 1080p30, low power’ so not current chipsets.Nov 12 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] probably best explains the ‘Android not ready for tablets’ approach, Google wants all tablets and phones next year with webm supportNov 12 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, have you seen the #Rifftrax of the #ST_TOS movies? They are *really* hard on Walter Koenig as a bit of a running gag.Nov 12 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Nope. But I like the guy. He totally rocked in B5. :DNov 12 14:51
Viper550internet brands vs. xenforo is getting ridiclousNov 12 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @webmink, I agree it's a concern worth considering, but I still don't think you've shown it's a reason to declare something's not !Faif.Nov 12 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] @fontana Nostalgia police! s/soft/rich/Nov 12 14:54
schestowitzhi Viper550 WHat's it about? Xenforo?Nov 12 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn That, sir, is the logic that is being exploited to game software freedom without formally breaching any "rules".Nov 12 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] @fontana Oh no! My badge is revoked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGbU2oNov 12 14:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - 1975 Chrysler Cordoba   .::. Size~: 122.17 KBNov 12 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Use Your !Linux PC to Teach Students Basic Science http://ur.ly/t3DV !linux makes you smarter. OS X/Windows make you... something elseNov 12 14:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Use Your Linux PC to Teach Students Basic Science - How-To Geek .::. Size~: 40.96 KBNov 12 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan I love that song! Especially the Waylon part! :)Nov 12 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ‘// Provide alternate content for browsers that do not support scripting // or for those that have scripting disabled’ www.editz.co.uk #failNov 12 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan @zach obviously rocks! :DNov 12 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Recap and recording of yesterday's Open Services Innovation webcast with Gary Hamel and Henry Chesbrough is available: http://ow.ly/38N4KNov 12 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] SUMO KB test day today http://bit.ly/aex8XaNov 12 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference: Seems like many are traveling to Dublin today. Don't forget the Early Bird sessions on Sat / Sun http://bit.ly/9CKy39Nov 12 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Best Linux Twitter Client http://bit.ly/cXXIewNov 12 15:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Recap: Open Your World webcast with Henry Chesbrough and Gary Hamel | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.24 KBNov 12 15:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SUMO Blog » SUMO KB test day today .::. Size~: 19.02 KBNov 12 15:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo Conference 2010/Early Bird Events - MeeGo wiki .::. Size~: 18.22 KBNov 12 15:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Best Linux Twitter Client ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 66.44 KBNov 12 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: #Linaro group advances Linux on ARM with 11.10 release http://goo.gl/iNN1DNov 12 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh AGPL doesn't solve the issue of SaaS. "It is impossible, as far as we know, to address this problem with a software license"-- @fsfNov 12 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Rumour: RT @meegoblog: Nokia MeeGo phones Nokia N10 & Nokia Ex5 |Tech News India http://nowskip.to/cd5KX8Nov 12 15:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linaro group advances Linux on ARM with 11.10 release .::. Size~: 29.97 KBNov 12 15:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia MeeGo phones Nokia N10 & Nokia E5x |Tech News India .::. Size~: 51.41 KBNov 12 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I haven't been interviewed today. I don't know what to do with myself.Nov 12 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think 'exurban' is more accurateNov 12 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn many people think I worked at !fsf which I never didNov 12 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn #Westford #MA office of #Red_Hat is considered its engineering HQNov 12 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn right, I recall @fabsh suggested a logo that I found rather #disturbingNov 12 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I don't think #CC-BY is even compatible with #CC-BY-SA although if official !CC view is otherwise I may soften that opinionNov 12 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn what's really #disturbing is that you can argue that #CC-0 isn't compatible with anything eitherNov 12 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The JooJoo Tablet is Officially Dead http://ur.ly/titl is that code/art all reusable at least?Nov 12 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn @arnebab Draft new !fedora contributor agmt has awkward provision dealing w/ !CC-BY-SA incompatibility w/ !GPL . #disturbingNov 12 15:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The JooJoo Tablet is Officially Dead | Maximum PC .::. Size~: 53.01 KBNov 12 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @fontana: Here's CC's compatibility wizard (tm) - http://is.gd/gYiNdNov 12 15:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creative Commons Licenses Compatibility Wizard .::. Size~: 16.65 KBNov 12 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn @arnebab I think problem lies elsewhere. General flaw in !CC licenses: elaborate legalese, unmatched by mainstream #FLOSS licensesNov 12 15:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] X.Org 7.6 Release Candidate 1 Is Finally Here: Alan Coopersmith has announced the first release candidate of X.O... http://bit.ly/dsKEoTNov 12 15:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] X.Org 7.6 Release Candidate 1 Is Finally Here .::. Size~: 16.94 KBNov 12 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @robmyers I'd like to know that highest levels of !CC are in accord with this chart before relying on itNov 12 15:38
schestowitz"Following that logic, does win keeps you stupid?"Nov 12 15:38
schestowitz@slurry no just something else. Different skillset.Nov 12 15:38
schestowitzre "!linux makes you smarter. OS X/Windows make you... something else"Nov 12 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @fontana: (looks at @mlinksva)Nov 12 15:39
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ZiomatrixWP7 already considered flop within the first few days of sales? http://bit.ly/aHyMy0Nov 12 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Mobile Story | Did the Windows Phone 7 Bomb In the US? .::. Size~: 171.75 KBNov 12 15:40
MinceRbomb? do they explode like hypePhones?Nov 12 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @stickster I actually cheated and looked at that one. My memory was actually "smooth" (I wonder if there were different versions though)Nov 12 15:41
ZiomatrixMinceR: well handsets haven't been out long enough to determine that yet.Nov 12 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @PeterPetrik: December #CiviCRM Meetup in Dallas http://meetu.ps/4ycyNov 12 15:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: December CiviCRM Meetup -  Dallas / Fort Worth CiviCRM Meetup (Dallas, TX) - Meetup .::. Size~: 45.52 KBNov 12 15:44
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57926376#notice-58470106 "You're very kind sir. Im a Linux convert. My only regret is having waited so long."Nov 12 15:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.5 KBNov 12 15:46
schestowitzThe old essay from GNU explains why free systems are required for education (not consumerism): http://www.gnu.org/education/Nov 12 15:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Software in Education - GNU Operating System .::. Size~: 18.77 KBNov 12 15:47
schestowitzZiomatrix: yeahNov 12 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] Kinect hacked days after release http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11742236 This is good news despite the tone of the article.Nov 12 15:48
schestowitzI knew it would be. Everyone knew.Nov 12 15:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Kinect hacked days after release .::. Size~: 50.33 KBNov 12 15:48
schestowitzAnd based on the silence I knew within days after launchNov 12 15:48
schestowitzMicrosoft shared no numbers publiclyNov 12 15:48
schestowitzSame with Bong and other Net endeavours.Nov 12 15:48
MinceRDongNov 12 15:49
Ziomatrixschestowitz: now there's rumours they're gonna try the KIN again and this time somehow got it off VZW's dataplan. Between that & patent suites they must be hemoraging capital.Nov 12 15:50
Ziomatrixschestowitz: has anyone here tried the latest Fedora with GNOME and KDE? Which is better in what way?Nov 12 15:51
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gnufreexHi.Nov 12 15:52
ZiomatrixI'm more looking for to how VZW will treat the Pre 2, hopefully not as a mom phone this time and not sidelining it for the KIN as well as Droid this time aroundNov 12 15:52
ZiomatrixheyNov 12 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] KINect might be flying off the shelves soon... but not because of Xbox. Microsoft claims to be subsiding (=losing money on) these Linux toysNov 12 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak I dunno. Seems to me like it solves it very well.Nov 12 15:53
MinceRit's not a mom phone, it's a spy phone! :>Nov 12 15:53
gnufreexI just saw that Microsoft got slapped by Motorola :-)Nov 12 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Disturbing? Ugly is OK, but I'm offended by disturbing! :ONov 12 15:54
ZiomatrixGoogle has been acting peculiar as well officially backing US Broadcasters and assuring them GoogleTV is not a threat to cable: http://bit.ly/aTS86T All the while letting their product become more crippled: http://bit.ly/bYjQx3Nov 12 15:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Sucks Up To Broadcasters Blocking GoogleTV - By joining them in pretending cable losses aren't real | DSLReports.com, ISP Information .::. Size~: 106.63 KBNov 12 15:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fox Also Now Ingeniously Blocking GoogleTV From Accessing...Ads - As Fox joins Google TV block, Hulu closes Fancast loophole | DSLReports.com, ISP Information .::. Size~: 42.45 KBNov 12 15:55
ZiomatrixMinceR: lol hopefully those tv spots does Palm (now HP's) WebOS some good.Nov 12 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] almost sounds like KIN next.....which it may well turn out to beNov 12 15:56
schestowitzZiomatrix: I downloaded both f14s, but only installed the kde one so farNov 12 15:57
schestowitzIt works well, I might try gnome too on someone else's boxNov 12 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Erk. I just saw an anonymous source accidentally outed on a mailing list. #noimnottellingyouNov 12 15:58
Ziomatrixschestowitz: KDE is lighter but I keep finding how limited applications and utilities that are optimized for it as apposed to GNOMENov 12 15:59
Ziomatrixschestowitz: are there any comprehensive repos dedicated to KDE?Nov 12 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/11/2010: The Linux 2.6.37 FS Benchmarks, MPlayer Turns Ten http://ur.ly/te3dNov 12 15:59
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schestowitzKIN is a good product...Nov 12 15:59
schestowitzDebutting after its timeNov 12 16:00
schestowitzThey should have released it in 2003Nov 12 16:00
schestowitzIt would have been a hit that wayNov 12 16:00
schestowitzZiomatrix: yesNov 12 16:00
Ziomatrixschestowitz: que? Well the KIN was supposed to be the Sidekick 2.0 whose time as an ultimate texting and simple email phone has passed.Nov 12 16:00
schestowitzand I don't know if gnome is havierNov 12 16:01
schestowitzand I don't know if gnome is heavierNov 12 16:01
schestowitzYou can run gtk apps on kdeNov 12 16:01
schestowitzQt has good gtk-based app handlingNov 12 16:01
schestowitzOr KDE ratherNov 12 16:01
schestowitzWhy is SideKick now dead yet?Nov 12 16:01
schestowitzDoes t-mobile still sell those?Nov 12 16:02
schestowitz(Does anyone?)Nov 12 16:02
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I find GNOME noticabley lagged YDL on the PS3, I also ran into some bugs when trying to change the toolbar that made it disapear entirely.Nov 12 16:02
schestowitzAh...Nov 12 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh you know,SaaS is letting someone processing my data that I can reasonably process.It can be: ok, bad or extremely stupid thing to do.Nov 12 16:03
schestowitzI'm gonna go install fedora 14 shortlyNov 12 16:03
schestowitzAnother PCNov 12 16:03
schestowitzI like it that I can just let it spin quicklyNov 12 16:03
schestowitz1 minute entering detailsNov 12 16:03
schestowitzNo serial #sNov 12 16:03
Ziomatrixschestowitz: T-mobile still sells it, but as a cheap texting dumbphone: http://bit.ly/8Ya7BYNov 12 16:03
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schestowitzOne CD makes many partitions on many machines... as it shouldNov 12 16:04
MinceRno activationNov 12 16:04
schestowitzActivation-yesNov 12 16:04
MinceRno trashing dual-bootNov 12 16:04
schestowitzIt's preactivatedNov 12 16:04
schestowitzIt has a bugNov 12 16:04
schestowitzSomeone killed -9 activation-monitorNov 12 16:04
schestowitzAnd then rm -f itNov 12 16:04
schestowitzI can't even find an activation app in the reposNov 12 16:05
schestowitzDamn FedoraNov 12 16:05
Ziomatrixschestowitz: however specialized hardware that is crippled by the hypervisor that already has relatively low RAM should be no indication how GNOME would run on a compitently speced PCNov 12 16:05
schestowitzSee, that's why Windows has more stuff... even anti-appsNov 12 16:05
schestowitzAPPLE BUG #AF373A77: user can play too many files, even those which the user is not supposed to playNov 12 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak That is a privacy issue, not a software freedom one...Nov 12 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♻ @robynbergeron Awesome! @BoxGrinder is being submitted as a feature for #Fedora 15. http://bit.ly/c7G4MnNov 12 16:06
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: now AV companies are pushing Mac users to install software.Nov 12 16:07
Ziomatrixschestowitz: what's your opinion about AV on Linux?Nov 12 16:07
ZiomatrixMinceR: your's too as well as gnufreeNov 12 16:07
schestowitz symantec says mac and linux av is just for compliance, according to itwireNov 12 16:08
schestowitzSo you can respond to pointy-haired Windows 'boss' with "yes, I have an AV installed"Nov 12 16:08
MinceRprobably unnecessary, except for scanning email that goes to winblows-infested clientsNov 12 16:08
schestowitz"I wrote my own" :-)Nov 12 16:09
MinceRcrapware from AV companies might help getting GNU/Linux preinstalled on PCs, thoughNov 12 16:09
schestowitz /s/"Hello World"/"No virsuses found. Enjoy your day"/Nov 12 16:09
ZiomatrixMinceR: well you think Apple's ego and publicity would create more Unix optimized malware that could inadvertently effect GNU/Linux?Nov 12 16:10
MinceRunlikelyNov 12 16:11
MinceRthen again, GNU/Linux malware would mostly have to exploit user stupidityNov 12 16:11
ZiomatrixMinceR: like if you constantly run on root or login an admin account?Nov 12 16:12
ZiomatrixMinceR: is that enough to compromise nix security?Nov 12 16:12
MinceRlike asking for password to sudo and hoping that the user will give itNov 12 16:12
MinceReven though he didn't ask for anythingNov 12 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Wish ElReg would use correct terminology when talking about #RHEL subscriptionsNov 12 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] hmm.Nov 12 16:13
gnufreexI think GNU/Linux malware can't succed even against stupid user.Nov 12 16:13
gnufreexYou need to target specific system.Nov 12 16:13
schestowitzUbuntu./Nov 12 16:14
schestowitzUbuntunityNov 12 16:14
gnufreexYou need to build kernel module for specfic version of specific distro, and you have to trick user to install it.Nov 12 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ACTA criminalises ordinary companies and individuals http://ur.ly/t71R via @ffii and @zoobab (#ff)Nov 12 16:14
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schestowitzgnufreex: they have reposNov 12 16:14
schestowitznewbies don't know how to install appsNov 12 16:14
MinceRubuntubuntubuntuNov 12 16:14
ZiomatrixMinceR: I know Ubuntu and Mint don't let people execute downloadables without sudo chmod x±Nov 12 16:15
schestowitzSome go to sites like spy-pe and install a deb/rpmNov 12 16:15
gnufreexInjecting in repoes require stupid Canonical employee. That is easier attack.Nov 12 16:15
MinceRZiomatrix: then the mail will come with an instruction to chmod +x :>Nov 12 16:15
schestowitzBut the rest they look for in repos, just make the repos audited and comprehensiveNov 12 16:15
gnufreexThat might workNov 12 16:15
schestowitzgnufreex: repos can use developer/project reputationNov 12 16:15
ZiomatrixMinceR: well yea but still there is no zero day exploit found in any Linux distro?Nov 12 16:16
gnufreexschestowitz: You mean PPA?Nov 12 16:16
schestowitzwho's yo ppa!!Nov 12 16:16
MinceRZiomatrix: dunnoNov 12 16:16
gnufreexPeople rarely use PPAsNov 12 16:16
gnufreexOnly main repoNov 12 16:16
schestowitzuniverseNov 12 16:17
MinceRZiomatrix: still, GNU/Linux is inherently much more secure than winblowsNov 12 16:17
gnufreexAnd main is maintained by Canonical. Universe is by community.Nov 12 16:17
MinceRor OSuXNov 12 16:17
schestowitzMarkS is the master of universeNov 12 16:17
schestowitzjono breed unity :-)Nov 12 16:17
schestowitzZimmerman is the ppaNov 12 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII "Parliament has to answer the question whether it wants to massively criminalise Europe's entrepreneurs, office workers and .."Nov 12 16:18
gnufreexBut I think Main is easier target since it is easier to find stupid canonical employee.Nov 12 16:18
schestowitzCanonical has no stupid employeesNov 12 16:18
schestowitzAnd MacA is pretty smartNov 12 16:18
gnufreexIt was joke.Nov 12 16:18
MinceRcan asay find his fingers without having to look at them?Nov 12 16:19
jonoMinceR, harshNov 12 16:19
ZiomatrixMinceR: true, so you're stating it would take a serious efforting to infect a community or ecspecially create a worm if it's possible in the way they're designed now. In a unsurprising bad way law enforcement, government and ecspecially espianage like thaNov 12 16:19
Ziomatrixt most PCs use an unsecure OS.Nov 12 16:19
jonoMatt is a good guyNov 12 16:19
MinceRjono: good for what?Nov 12 16:19
MinceRfor advertising crApple and open core?Nov 12 16:19
jonoMinceR, have you ever met him, talked to him, had a conversation with him?Nov 12 16:20
MinceRno, i've read his articlesNov 12 16:20
schestowitzMinceR: he's personally kind, I just don't agree with many of his opinions on FOSNov 12 16:20
MinceRthat was enoughNov 12 16:20
jonoMinceR, the man is different to his articlesNov 12 16:20
MinceRschestowitz: someone might be stupid enough to be a crApple cultist and yet be personally kind.Nov 12 16:20
jonoschestowitz thats a totally reasonable perspective to takeNov 12 16:20
schestowitzMinceR: separate issuesNov 12 16:20
schestowitzHe dismisses RMS for the yuppie-Nuremberg defenseNov 12 16:21
MinceRjono: btw, nice going advertising vista7 for the second time.Nov 12 16:21
schestowitzThe whole "need to pay the mortgage" thingNov 12 16:21
jonoMinceR, eh?Nov 12 16:21
schestowitzAs in, it's OK if I do it cause I need to make moneyNov 12 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Roy, re Monsanto VALGEN policy brief based on recent research: what happens to Canadian farmers who infringe patents? http://bit.ly/ddXpFvNov 12 16:21
MinceRhttp://www.jonobacon.org/2010/11/10/reasons-why-i-love-my-desktop/Nov 12 16:21
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jonoMinceR, what has that got to do with vista?Nov 12 16:21
MinceRnear the endNov 12 16:21
schestowitzI think it's misguided in general, but many married people fall into this inescapable trap (IMHO)Nov 12 16:21
jonoMinceR, I am saying it is better than Windows 7?Nov 12 16:21
MinceRjono: oh, tell me that "7" is brand newNov 12 16:21
schestowitz"Hey, sure this meal kills some farmer in India, but hey..!! It's delicious!"Nov 12 16:22
jonoI don't understand your point MinceRNov 12 16:22
MinceRno, you're saying that "oh, btw remember that my studio pc is _powered by_ vista7"Nov 12 16:22
jonoam I not allowed to reference Windows 7?Nov 12 16:22
MinceRjono: i'm sure you wouldn'tNov 12 16:22
jonoit is powered by WindowsNov 12 16:22
jonobig dealNov 12 16:22
MinceRi see you don't have an issue with m$ bribing the "community manager" of its "competitor" and getting a stream of ads in exchange for itNov 12 16:22
schestowitzjono: I think it gives them ammoNov 12 16:22
schestowitzNot that I entirely agree with MinceR on thisNov 12 16:23
schestowitzBut think, what if Ballmer said he uses a Mac at home for work and some Linux for recording at the office?Nov 12 16:23
jonoMinceR, lol, no one bribed meNov 12 16:23
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I know I'm culpable of aiding slave wage labor by the products I use and buy. But there are barely any alternatives..Nov 12 16:23
jonoif bribing is me asking for funding, then I guess I must have been bribedNov 12 16:23
MinceRjono: iirc you said they gave you a copy of vista7Nov 12 16:23
schestowitzYou're a symbol of Ubuntu, don't feed them ammo cause the trolls  *do* use it. I see it..Nov 12 16:23
jonoMinceR, yeah, I asked them for itNov 12 16:23
MinceReven worseNov 12 16:23
jonobecause I needed Win 7 to power hardware that doesnt work in LinuxNov 12 16:23
schestowitzZiomatrix: there are always other optionsNov 12 16:24
MinceRbecause you bought crap hardwareNov 12 16:24
schestowitzjust not as convenient as much as we're willing to consider them acceptableNov 12 16:24
jonoMinceR, well, we will have to agree to disagree, because frankly, I don't care if one of my machines in Win 7 when I do all other work in UbuntuNov 12 16:24
MinceRthe point is, they'll point at you because you're the "community manager" at canonicalNov 12 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Swindon trading estate, Oxford Road. Not one of the large stores selling phones had a single Windows Phone 7 in it or even an ad for themNov 12 16:24
MinceR"oh look, even that manager at the most popular distro uses vista7, so it must be great"Nov 12 16:24
jonoMinceR, MS are not going to point at meNov 12 16:25
schestowitzHehe @ satiperaNov 12 16:25
MinceRjono: then their fanboys willNov 12 16:25
jonoand if they suggest I advocate Win 7, I am not going to accept thatNov 12 16:25
MinceRthey still have an army of dronesNov 12 16:25
jonoMinceR, I couldn't give a crap about their fanboysNov 12 16:25
ThistleWebMinceR: what would be your ideal way for jono to do it? Given that you're obviously a specialist in studio equipmentNov 12 16:25
jonoI care about Open Source people, not MS fanboysNov 12 16:25
MinceRyou might not accept it but that won't keep them from doing thatNov 12 16:25
jonoMinceR, and I don't careNov 12 16:25
jonoMS fanboys can say what they like, whateverNov 12 16:25
MinceRThistleWeb: i would have researched studio equipment with proper driver supportNov 12 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opening up Knowledge - http://bit.ly/9Ygbse it's all about providing access, and removing barriers #a2k #copyright #patents #fsconsNov 12 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh I think it's both. s/w freedom is about empowerment, when you don't have your data you aren't empowered.Nov 12 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera Swindon trading estate,Oxford Road. Not one of the large stores selling phones had a single Windows Phone 7 in it or even an adNov 12 16:26
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MinceRThistleWeb: and even if i had to use some nonfree crap OS to drive it, if i was a PR person for a major distro i wouldn't advertise it thenNov 12 16:26
schestowitzjono: like I said, i don't entirely agree with MinceR on itNov 12 16:26
ZiomatrixMinceR: well what you're advocating is mudslinging, something which I feel no community should be assosciated with and trapped by.Nov 12 16:26
MinceRZiomatrix: i'm advocating it? interesting.Nov 12 16:26
ThistleWebahh so after getting a donation to help out he shouldn't say thanks for it?Nov 12 16:26
schestowitzI think it's unfortunate -the side effect (trolls). I also don't think you advocate itNov 12 16:26
schestowitzThat's a mischaracterisationNov 12 16:27
MinceRi wouldn't have asked for a donationNov 12 16:27
MinceRbesides, doesn't canonical emply driver developers?Nov 12 16:27
MinceRs/ply/plou/Nov 12 16:27
schestowitzI remember that the KIN man marketing guy used a BlackBerryNov 12 16:27
MinceRs/plou/ploy/Nov 12 16:27
schestowitzEven *he* would not touch a KINNov 12 16:27
ThistleWebhave you researched pro level recording equipment for linux support?Nov 12 16:27
MinceRlolNov 12 16:27
ThistleWebI'd imagine it's pretty thinNov 12 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @robmyers What do you think of China? ...... Cutlery?Nov 12 16:28
ZiomatrixMinceR: well you're making it further known. If you extrapolate a whole opinion or motus operandi of the author or others out of a single sentence you become a vehicle of such beyond what was produced.Nov 12 16:28
MinceRdepends on whether the AudioTrak Prodigy 7.1 HiFi is pro levelNov 12 16:28
MinceRZiomatrix: oh, so now i'm responsible for what jono does?Nov 12 16:28
schestowitzThistleWeb: I'd like to get answers about iktNov 12 16:28
schestowitzI - like you - can only speculateNov 12 16:28
schestowitzThere only needs to be _one_ good solution for itNov 12 16:28
schestowitzYou don't need a wide selection if one company has already targeted the Linux segmentNov 12 16:29
ThistleWebwhen you're building a home studio your choices for hardware are very limited, by your budgetNov 12 16:29
schestowitzAnd many operations of this kind move from win/unix to LinuxNov 12 16:29
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ThistleWebyou can easily sink a LOT of money in and get very little for itNov 12 16:29
schestowitzEven in the MRI scanners we have at the hospital... all Linux nowNov 12 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @osamak But I *do* have my data with cloud applications!Nov 12 16:29
schestowitzSome studios probably use equipment with embedded Linux sometimesNov 12 16:29
MinceRThistleWeb: yes, for example hardware with no drivers :>Nov 12 16:30
ThistleWebspecially when you're keeping an eye on second hand deals etc, and your main priority is the sound, does it get the sound you wantNov 12 16:30
schestowitzFor video/rendering it's usually Linux, ECT Says like 98% of the timeNov 12 16:30
ZiomatrixMinceR: yes someone who heads a department of product X shouldn't promote competitor Y. But by magnifying that single mention that they resort to using product Y because of exostential and puts effort into unbias reasons you're doing just as much to underNov 12 16:30
Ziomatrixmine the community as the perceived threat. It's a tactic short sellers use to exaderate bad news of a company and get it out to drive the shares down.Nov 12 16:30
schestowitzThistleWeb: fair pointNov 12 16:30
MinceRZiomatrix: we're at two mentions and counting.Nov 12 16:31
schestowitzBut I don't know if jono aimed for second-hand and checked Linux compat of what he boughtNov 12 16:31
schestowitzhe has used Linux for many, many yearsNov 12 16:31
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ThistleWebby the time you spot a good deal on something you may not have been able to afford, do you take time to reasearch linux support, and reject it if it wont support it? or miss out because you waited to research itNov 12 16:31
MinceRZiomatrix: and the second one was especially unnecessary.Nov 12 16:31
schestowitzThe issue we have is people who convert and already have some Linux-hostile h/w like webcams/winmodems (rare now)Nov 12 16:32
MinceRThistleWeb: generally i don't buy expensive hardware without researching itNov 12 16:32
ThistleWebit's not like he has wads of cash to go drop on some music storeNov 12 16:32
schestowitz[16:31] <ThistleWeb> by the time you spot a good deal on something you may not have been able to afford, do you take time to reasearch linux support, and reject it if it wont support it? or miss out because you waited to research itNov 12 16:32
MinceRi don't buy crap because "oh look, it seems to be cheap, who cares what the catch is?"Nov 12 16:32
schestowitzResearch if fastNov 12 16:32
schestowitzJust Google it :-)Nov 12 16:32
schestowitz"research"Nov 12 16:32
schestowitzR&D:Nov 12 16:32
schestowitz"GOOGLE LINUX GH-45"Nov 12 16:32
ThistleWebwhat catch? it's a musical aid, you buy it for THATNov 12 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruceperens/@bruceperens] Red Hat’s Secret Patent Deal and the Fate of JBoss Developers. http://ur1.ca/2bzlgNov 12 16:33
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: I can't seem to find drivers to support the internal mic for the laptop I installed Mint on :-(Nov 12 16:33
schestowitzMy brother had a similar issueNov 12 16:33
schestowitzin MandrivaNov 12 16:33
MinceRThistleWeb: such as "crap driver support"Nov 12 16:33
ThistleWebMinceR: when's your next album out?Nov 12 16:34
ThistleWebI;'m curiousNov 12 16:34
ThistleWebare you a musician?Nov 12 16:34
Ziomatrixschestowitz: what was his solution?Nov 12 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] System76 to begin shipping to the UK ‘end of this month’ http://ur1.ca/2bzm1Nov 12 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh In this case, I think no freedom problem exists.. if I actually had the input, the output and the processing app.That rarely happens.Nov 12 16:34
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ThistleWebI've played the guitar since I was 16, the studio and stage tech is VERY windows centricNov 12 16:35
ThistleWeband not cheap for the good stuffNov 12 16:35
MinceRThistleWeb: i'm not a musicianNov 12 16:35
ThistleWebI've spent a fortune over the yrs on that stuffNov 12 16:35
ThistleWebhad multiple guitars over the yrs, and a bass tooNov 12 16:36
ThistleWebit's not as clean cut as you'd like to imagineNov 12 16:36
ZiomatrixMinceR: sorry about the outburst I just think anyone in a position of authority should keep their options open for the sake of creativity and finding the best compromise for a situation. However, making random mentions of a competing product is kind of stNov 12 16:37
Ziomatrixrange and disconcerting. I suppose if business is war things would be different. ;-)Nov 12 16:37
ThistleWebstuff aimed at home or busienss users has a chance of being used in linux, there's a sniff of a market and possible awaerenessNov 12 16:37
MinceRZiomatrix: business is war, at least for competitors of m$Nov 12 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bruceperens Red Hat’s Secret Patent Deal and the Fate of JBoss Developers. http://ur1.ca/2bzlg #redhat #swpats #acacia #patenttrollNov 12 16:38
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ThistleWebbut musos and techniscans are mostly nowhere near as PC clued up as jono, they buy off the shelf windows and plug stuff inNov 12 16:38
MinceRThistleWeb: so, how many times have you plugged winblows?Nov 12 16:38
MinceRon your blog, i meanNov 12 16:38
ZiomatrixMinceR: point takenNov 12 16:38
ThistleWebthey don't know what an OS is, all they wanna know is how to work the knobs and dials on the mixer / keyboard, whatever to get the sound the way they wantNov 12 16:38
ThistleWebnever used that, I have used windows thoughNov 12 16:38
ThistleWebit's not plugging it, he got a donation, it's right that he recognises itNov 12 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @robmyers it got a chuckle out of me.Nov 12 16:39
ThistleWebI do agree that he heeded windows, so what? Where I do have an issue is him soliciting itNov 12 16:39
ThistleWebbut having to use windows? no problem, I know what the music tech is like first handNov 12 16:40
ThistleWebit's not like he's promoting itNov 12 16:40
ThistleWebhow many posts does he promote it?Nov 12 16:40
ThistleWebone mention, maybe 2 in passing, when in context with the music?Nov 12 16:41
ThistleWebwho cares?Nov 12 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT carlopiana@ "Patents on software are a bad idea." "Patents on software are a bad idea." Now repeat that to yourself one thousand times...Nov 12 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] India mandates "royalty-free" open standards - http://bit.ly/9CgrpD now the EU should follow suit #india #openstandards #eifNov 12 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody sickNov 12 16:41
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MinceRi doNov 12 16:41
ThistleWebgood for youNov 12 16:41
MinceRand you can bet that the trolls do tooNov 12 16:41
jonoMinceR, schestowitz, ThistleWeb it's as simple as this, I judge sound gear by how great it is at sound, not it's level of FLOSS support, if it supports FLOSS, great, but I want to write a great album, not a great case study for FLOSSNov 12 16:41
ZiomatrixThisleWeb: in all fairs his conclusion of mentioning Windows 7 was a comparison which he states that Ubuntu's desktop selection.Nov 12 16:42
jonoMinceR, if you don't like that, well you are entitled to your opinion, and I don't act like a petulant teenager and call you namesNov 12 16:42
jonolets just politely agree to see things differentlyNov 12 16:42
ThistleWebjono: I did remember you talk on lugradio about it, and it being separate from your FOSS stuff, I get it, as I said, I am a muso myselfNov 12 16:42
jonoThistleWeb, indeed :-)Nov 12 16:42
ThistleWebit's hard enough to get a professional sounding output from purely a musical stance, let alone adding another layer ontopNov 12 16:43
MinceRjono: i consider it a huge loss for ubuntu on PR grounds, though i'm not sure if it was deliberate.Nov 12 16:43
ThistleWebthen of course there's the actual playingNov 12 16:43
jonoMinceR, well it is a huge loss given that Ubuntu frankly doesn't serve my needsNov 12 16:44
jonoand I totally support people making the hardware support better, but I am not going to delay my music until it doesNov 12 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm I passed halfway last night. http://baldynovel.blogspot.com/Nov 12 16:44
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ThistleWebjono: as I said, my only point is that perhaps you could have gotten a donation in some way as to not be morally obliged to thank MSNov 12 16:45
jonoThistleWeb, I wasn't morally obligedNov 12 16:45
ThistleWebbut hey, these things happenNov 12 16:45
jonoI did it because it was the right thing to doNov 12 16:45
jonowhen someone gives me a gift, I say thankyouNov 12 16:45
ThistleWebthats what I meanNov 12 16:45
jonoand if some people don't like that, well that's their dealNov 12 16:46
ThistleWebit'd be wrong not to say thanksNov 12 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII US #ACTA negotiator: "I personally don’t think there are any problems with the patent system." http://bit.ly/cbN2SE #lol #patentsNov 12 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] "Impact" is an intransitive verb, "impact" is not a thing on its own, it is done to somethingNov 12 16:46
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ThistleWebnot sure why it's suddenly an issue today thoughNov 12 16:46
ThistleWebdid something change?Nov 12 16:46
ThistleWebor is it just a "ooh look jono's here, lets jump up his ass for something"Nov 12 16:47
jonoThistleWeb, I suspect the latterNov 12 16:47
jonobut whatever, this is how I envisaged spending my day offNov 12 16:47
jonololNov 12 16:47
MinceRit's not suddenly an issueNov 12 16:47
ThistleWebyou do seem to be a magnet for itNov 12 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody India mandates "royalty-free" open standards - http://bit.ly/9CgrpD now the EU should follow suit #india #openstandards #eifNov 12 16:48
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MinceRit's been an issue ever since it's happenedNov 12 16:48
Ziomatrixschestowitz: ACTA was made to preserve multi-national but mainly corporate interests of not only keeping but increasing enforcement and entitlement of copyright and patents in their favor that would benefit the Fed Reserve.Nov 12 16:48
ThistleWebhere I thought it was a day or so's "conversation topic" months back when it appeared, then we moved onNov 12 16:48
MinceRbut since we were talking about high-ranking canonical people doing GNU/Linux harm, i thought it was relevant.Nov 12 16:48
MinceRno, months back was the first mentionNov 12 16:49
MinceRthe second mention is relatively recent.Nov 12 16:49
jonoMinceR, and there's the point, it isn't an issueNov 12 16:49
jonoMinceR, I didn't do any harmNov 12 16:49
jonoI just used a non FLOSS productNov 12 16:49
MinceRi'm sure it didn't do any harm to canonicalNov 12 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The new Borg - http://bit.ly/9Jnkqy interesting point about #Google hiring *academics*Nov 12 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII @GreensEP Keep up the good work on #ACTA! Ska's 2nd question goes to the heart of it http://bit.ly/9PrvqQ #criminal #democracyNov 12 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Indeed, one can make a nice robotics guiding system with it(on Linux, of course)Nov 12 16:49
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jonothat's not doing harm, and I trust FLOSS users are bright enough to not suddenly start using Win 7 just because I mention itNov 12 16:49
ThistleWebthe way I see it, is that you have to use the best tool for the job, and hopefully that's a FOSS oneNov 12 16:50
MinceRyes, let's just ignore the users that don't use GNU/Linux yetNov 12 16:50
jonoMinceR,  I appreciate you see it as a problem, but we just see things differentNov 12 16:50
MinceRwhat, bug #1? what's that?Nov 12 16:50
jonoMinceR, how am I ignoring those users, my job is to help bring people to UbuntuNov 12 16:50
jonoMinceR, what are you doing to bring new users to Linux?Nov 12 16:50
MinceRand my point is that's not happeningNov 12 16:51
MinceRi'm helping friends switchNov 12 16:51
ThistleWebthere's others like the GNU crowd who'd happily cut themselves off from some of what the world offers just to stay pure to their principlesNov 12 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WIPO Copyright Committee In Fight To Overcome Differences On Exceptions, Limitations - http://bit.ly/9Uhdgd time for a schismNov 12 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Beat Maker - drum loop emulator: http://My-Maemo.com/go.php?p=6830 #N900 #MaemoNov 12 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Stellarium Mobile - N900 optimized planetarium: http://My-Maemo.com/go.php?p=6829 #N900 #MaemoNov 12 16:51
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jonoMinceR, so you are helping friends switchNov 12 16:51
jonowhy don't you work on a project to make Linux easier?Nov 12 16:51
jonoit will help more peopleNov 12 16:51
jonoand here is the difference - I am not tell you to do somethingNov 12 16:52
MinceRbecause i need a salary to survive and such jobs aren't available hereNov 12 16:52
jonoI am not telling you that your contributions are not validNov 12 16:52
MinceRyou aren't?Nov 12 16:52
jonobut you feel like you have the moral highground to tell me that I am doing things wrongNov 12 16:52
jonojust accept that we see things differentlyNov 12 16:52
jonoagree to disagreeNov 12 16:52
jonoyour work is validNov 12 16:52
jonomy work is validNov 12 16:52
ThistleWebplenty of FOSS advocates have no choice but to use windows at workNov 12 16:52
jonoschestowitz work is validNov 12 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Message Blocker - SMS and Chat message notification blocker: http://My-Maemo.com/go.php?p=6831 #N900 #MaemoNov 12 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: youtube-dl - command line based video downloader: http://My-Maemo.com/go.php?p=6832 #N900 #MaemoNov 12 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: XMP - command line based module player: http://My-Maemo.com/go.php?p=6833 #N900 #MaemoNov 12 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: EFF - Empty Frequency Finder: http://My-Maemo.com/go.php?p=6834 #N900 #MaemoNov 12 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Qt is the primary development framework for #MeeGo. Find details here: http://intel.ly/ciOhpw http://fb.me/J95hE3MtNov 12 16:53
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jonoThistleWeb's work is validNov 12 16:53
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ThistleWebbecause their employer is a windows shopNov 12 16:53
jonoMinceR, why waste time bickering about this?Nov 12 16:53
jonoI believe my contributions to Ubuntu far outweigh any possible user who reads a Win 7 reference and doesn't use UbuntuNov 12 16:53
jonowhich is such a rare possibility in itselfNov 12 16:53
ThistleWebspeaking of that, I found a handy virtual desktop app for windows to make it a little less painfulNov 12 16:53
ThistleWebworks tooNov 12 16:54
MinceRi disagreeNov 12 16:54
jonookNov 12 16:54
jonoand that's coolNov 12 16:54
ThistleWebvirtuawin.sourceforge.netNov 12 16:54
MinceRand i disagree regarding mac asay as wellNov 12 16:54
jonowe agree to disagreeNov 12 16:54
jonoso let's just shake hands and do our own work and agree to disagreeNov 12 16:54
jonodeal?Nov 12 16:54
MinceRit's not possible to shake hands on IRCNov 12 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] YouTube Mobile Use Exploding: 75% Report Mobile is Primary Way of Watching YouTube - http://rww.to/djtIgZ who needs a TV? #youtube #mobileNov 12 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz A paid article, unclear disclosure (only at the bottom did I see it) of its source. VAR Guy is going to be less trustworthy nowNov 12 16:54
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*jono shakes MinceR's handNov 12 16:54
schestowitzcodepope: "@schestowitz Oh come on http://bit.ly/93DraD they still haven't released their GPL'd code they used yet...."Nov 12 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Source Code Release Update «  good joojoo .::. Size~: 9.91 KBNov 12 16:55
ThistleWebsorry if promoting a windows app offends, but it does give the virtual desktops workflow option to windows, for those times when you've no choice but to use itNov 12 16:55
jonoMinceR, do we have a deal to agree to disagree?Nov 12 16:55
MinceRi guess we'll have toNov 12 16:55
jonook thenNov 12 16:55
jonogood dealNov 12 16:55
MinceRThistleWeb: well, it goes as far as it's possible on winblowsNov 12 16:55
jonoyou keep doing the awesome work helping your friends to move overNov 12 16:55
MinceRit's still a far cry from the real thingNov 12 16:55
ThistleWeb"and we will have peace" - Darth SidiousNov 12 16:55
jonothat is so valuable for helping people to use our platformNov 12 16:55
cubezzzdamn, no flame war thenNov 12 16:55
jonocubezzz, sorry due :-)Nov 12 16:56
jonodudeNov 12 16:56
MinceRfor example the windows of frozen apps will not be affectedNov 12 16:56
ThistleWebMinceR: yeah it's not perfectNov 12 16:56
jonoright, I am outNov 12 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith if many buy subsidised KINect for hacking, Microsoft will have to stop subsidies, which will kill KINect and hurt Xbox 360Nov 12 16:56
MinceRsince winblows event handling is braindeadNov 12 16:56
ThistleWebbut it does workNov 12 16:56
jonoI have a day off, and my wife has a list of chores as long as the great wall of china for me to doNov 12 16:56
jonothanks MinceR for the discussionNov 12 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ainda tem gente que use COREL DRAW ???Nov 12 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lnxwalt140 A paid article, unclear disclosure (only at the bottom did I see it) of its source.VARGuy is going to be less trustworthy nowNov 12 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Hehehehe, we win, one way or the other. ;-DNov 12 16:58
MinceRnpNov 12 16:58
jono:)Nov 12 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Is any poor soul still using COREL DRAW ???Nov 12 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @pookito if it does, battery performance wont be awful, just not impressive. compare Flash vs. native video.Nov 12 16:59
cubezzzI was all set to try MikeOS but then I realized it was like win 3.1Nov 12 17:00
cubezzzreal modeNov 12 17:00
schestowitzBrought to you by Open RESPEC!Nov 12 17:00
schestowitzcubezzz: old last update tooNov 12 17:01
ThistleWebaightNov 12 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @codepope great link. Thanks, I've added it to draft. schestowitz - 3 mins ago - Choqok - in reply to ☛ Nov 12 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @CodePope great link. Thanks, I've added it to draft.Nov 12 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Can Chaos Theory Predict Non-violent Political Moves? http://bit.ly/atLsnyNov 12 17:01
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cubezzzhmmm?Nov 12 17:01
cubezzzoh yeahNov 12 17:01
cubezzzI'm not sure what else to tryNov 12 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] We just released Linux Outlaws 175 - Clusterfork http://ur1.ca/2bzst -- your Linux and F/OSS news for the week, enjoy!Nov 12 17:03
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Ziomatrixcubezzz: have you tried AROS?Nov 12 17:03
cubezzzyupNov 12 17:03
Ziomatrixcubezzz: Haiku?Nov 12 17:04
cubezzzyesNov 12 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: Sarah Palin Adviser Bankrolled By George Soros. Srsly. http://bit.ly/bNIgljNov 12 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: We just released Linux Outlaws 175 - Clusterfork http://ur1.ca/2bzst -- your Linux and F/OSS news for the week, enjoy!Nov 12 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] New advocacy services GrassHopr: http://bit.ly/12BUeV PopVox: http://bit.ly/c0s0S8, Integration with #CiviCRM #CiviPetition would rock!Nov 12 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] " ACTA was made to preserve multi-national but mainly corporate interests of not only keeping but increasing enforcement ..."Nov 12 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...and entitlement of copyright and patents in their favor that would benefit the Fed Reserve." --ZiomatrixNov 12 17:04
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Ziomatrixcubezzz: I wonder if Anubis OS is released?Nov 12 17:05
schestowitz[16:54] <MinceR> it's not possible to shake hands on IRCNov 12 17:05
schestowitzWe need openhandshake.orgNov 12 17:05
cubezzzthere's MorphOS too but I'm not sure if that's FOSSNov 12 17:05
schestowitzWhere you do some html+scg fun stuffNov 12 17:05
MinceRor just TCPNov 12 17:05
schestowitz*svgNov 12 17:05
MinceRthat has a three-way handshakeNov 12 17:05
cubezzzZiomatrix, some day I'll write an OS, or at least a window managerNov 12 17:06
schestowitzImagine a handshake DDOSNov 12 17:06
schestowitzIt's like those "penis attacks" they had on Second life 2 years agoNov 12 17:06
cubezzzhmmm, I see Anubis OS coming soon on sourceforgeNov 12 17:06
Ziomatrixcubezzz: there's Linux based microkernel that starts with a J, but I always forget the name. :-P I think Anubis is DOA or just cut their funding and dev pace, no website anymore. :-/Nov 12 17:07
*Ziomatrix wonders if I'll be lambasted for using smilesNov 12 17:08
cubezzzcubeOS sounds goodNov 12 17:08
cubezzzback in 1/2 hourNov 12 17:08
ZiomatrixI'll bbl as wellNov 12 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ahmed talks about how to show of your Ubuntu desktop on the cloud - http://is.gd/gYsBC #ubuntu #cloudNov 12 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] "Is free software actually more expensive? Sometimes" #Alfresco argues for #Open_Core model http://ur1.ca/2bzwuNov 12 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir My feelings towards a man with a gun depend not so much on the qualities of the gun, but more on the qualities of the man.Nov 12 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rcweir the important thing is to check what that gun is doing in the man's hand in the first place. Burden of proof and all...Nov 12 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII #Kroes - "Competition is the open internet best friend". ##nnsummitNov 12 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII @NeelieKroesEU Without beans it's not coffee. With #Skype blocked it's not #Internet. #nnsummitNov 12 17:14
MinceRopen standards > skypeNov 12 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @FFII thanks for the summaries from #nnsummit (it's handy)Nov 12 17:18
schestowitzgtg bblNov 12 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @EUinnovation Commission launches public consultation on future funding to boost #EU competitiveness http://bit.ly/bkxEC7Nov 12 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Strange correlation http://ur1.ca/2c018Nov 12 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] India The Latest To Think About Kicking People Off The Internet Based On Accusations Of File Sharing - http://bit.ly/9GROTM #3strikes #indiaNov 12 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Inboxes Rejoice: Spam Volume Down 47% Since August - http://rww.to/bch8Rv I've noticed a 10% fall, personally... #spamNov 12 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] How to Save Money by Replacing Microsoft SharePoint with WordPress http://bit.ly/bjCQaONov 12 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] ♺ @throckmortonqdirktwister: gave !SeveredFifth a listen last night and was delighted!Nov 12 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Tonight, Pine St in Livermore, Severed Fifth play at Nicci D benefit - get there at 7.30pm, we open! http://is.gd/gYtZf #severedfifthNov 12 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @glynmoody Inboxes Rejoice: Spam Volume Down 47% Since August - http://rww.to/bch8Rv I've noticed a 10% fall, personally... #spamNov 12 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Salvadoran literacy campaign based on Cuban model. http://ur1.ca/2c02v !cubanews #americas #El SalvadorNov 12 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @glynmoody I think all the spammers are busy doing blog comment spam and microblog SEO-type spam.Nov 12 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the ideal name for a sexy support site? bra.comNov 12 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Warning: may contain humour" - http://bit.ly/9l9fD4 excellent post on #twitterjoketrial #iamspartacus et al.Nov 12 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Must have missed this podcast when it dropped: Jonathan Nadeau of Frostbite Media interviews me and @jsmith: http://ur1.ca/2c04hNov 12 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] That podcast interview is available directly through this site as well: http://ur1.ca/2c05eNov 12 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #listeningto heaven 17 lets all make a bomb #nptfailure #aggressionNov 12 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Corporate news management. http://ur1.ca/2c06qNov 12 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Musing re: my !GPL violation #deposition yesterday. I got to use these fun phrases: gnus,"the Internets", LaTeX, wildebeest, "canonical URL"Nov 12 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @glynmoody Inboxes Rejoice: Spam Volume Down 47% Since August - http://rww.to/bch8Rv I've noticed a 10% fall, personally... #spamNov 12 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A band of their time, but "We Are Going To Live For A very Long Time" by Heaven 17,a rare thing, a musical satire of Christianity. #atheismNov 12 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I wonder if there is *any* member of the so-called #Alfresco community who isn't affiliated with them or with their customers.Nov 12 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The Story of a Tweet - Oracle's Premium JVM (interesting case study, interesting comments): http://bit.ly/bGxhkuNov 12 17:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Save me from Tommy Sheridan's so called "news" #CrapNewsNov 12 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Hackerrrrs! #youllbefreeNov 12 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Tory cuts in NHS are labelled as "efficiency savings" to stop the bad pressNov 12 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] What's got 8 arms and it going to rock the hell out of Livermore tonight at 7.30pm? http://is.gd/gYtZf #severedfifthNov 12 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching Bruce and the band nailing Darkness 30 years after the fact and taking Asbury Park apart.......Nov 12 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Witnesses see visitor to Rikers Island jail roughed up by correction officer http://ur1.ca/2c0ej #policestateNov 12 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Alright people let's help out #wikipedia http://ur1.ca/2c0f0Nov 12 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] My brain is on holiday in preparation for the New Zealand gameNov 12 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody what's next? banishment for file sharing IRL?Nov 12 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Blogging while in prison in Britain is a real issue at the parole hearing. http://ur1.ca/2c0gc #freedomofspeechNov 12 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fontana #Open_Core is great cause it still allows vendor lockin & it gives lower quality code to the enterprise which they deserve. ~;-)Nov 12 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] A new !Unity package (3.1.3-0ubuntu2) has been uploaded to the Unity !PPA, the build is pending... !uNov 12 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Crap, there I go againNov 12 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Beta 2 Of The Enlightenment Foundation Libraries: A month ago there was the 1.0 beta release of the Enlightenmen... http://bit.ly/9Mv4e8Nov 12 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] But the British tech community had better wake up if it doesn't want software patents. http://ur1.ca/2c0i6 #swpatsNov 12 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Anyway, hod your whesshed, it's only 20 hours to kick offNov 12 18:21
gnufreexhaha.. some idiot thinks adobe will listen to him http://getsatisfaction.com/adobe/topics/produce_creative_suite_for_linuxNov 12 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Damn my lack of wit all the way to HadesNov 12 18:23
gnufreexThat is same company that makes Trash and has only one dev working on Linux version of Trash.Nov 12 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to The Boss. Out LOUD!!!Nov 12 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have decided never to use UK again, Britain will have to do. I do not support this anti democratic "constitutional monarchy" #RepublicanNov 12 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I love the non-regional #BBC, they go on for 10 minutes about something, then they say right at the end "this doesn't apply in Scotland"Nov 12 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 is that somewhere on the M1?Nov 12 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Unity has been successfully built for #natty in the Unity !PPA: http://goo.gl/XO6b0Nov 12 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] 70% voter turnout in Washington State -- every state should probably do mail-in ballots.Nov 12 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Tested !fedora 14 today at work in Vbox, downloading it at home now :)Nov 12 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @thistleweb no doubt, probably near SheffieldNov 12 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] my first dabble with web.py http://www.jezra.net/blog/a_webpy_introduction #shamelessselfpromotionNov 12 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] Running Linux doesn't automatically make your system impenetrable. But that easily fixed: http://www.linuxformat.com/archivesNov 12 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Can't be any news, they mentioned !rugby in the last bit of the Scottish headlines. Surely some football manager's cat is ill?Nov 12 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right!!!!! Back.....got the weekend off......great stuff!Nov 12 18:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ubunticle when two Ubuntu users' desktops are the same! They are #Ubunticle, where's my coin?!Nov 12 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @toros A new !Unity package (3.1.3-0ubuntu2) has been uploaded to the Unity !PPA, the build is pending... !uNov 12 18:36
Viper550someone pinged me? sorry I was away a bitNov 12 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Would "national security" be harmed if were told broadly how we were all being monitored? #lobyocracystasiiswatchingyouNov 12 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Mate said he couldn't burn an iso with Brasero, his problem was #Ubunticle to mine :)Nov 12 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Net Neutrality Summit - http://bit.ly/8XgNyF great summary with worrying message: "there is no problem, do not regulate" #netneutralityNov 12 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, !fedora finished downloading. Pizza+Beer+Install time :) Laters!Nov 12 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes: Could either you or Roy explain what the sound problems are? Two bright blokes like you must be able to sort it.Nov 12 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Still feeling unwell, could not work -- just urgent stuff. Yet two major assignments reached me. I am the rainmaker...Nov 12 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Success! We met Hindawi's matching giving challenge- thx all who donated. Still need your help reaching $550k goal! http://bit.ly/bTMxvpNov 12 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I'd put #New_York before #Boston (or #Cambridge) myself, but I agree about #San_FranciscoNov 12 18:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn isn't possibility of revealing your secret #Shadowman tattoo #problematic?Nov 12 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, San Francisco has issues, not too different from Boston/Cambridge, in that train transit goes to a very small part of metro area.Nov 12 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, Paris and NYC are the gold standards for how far trains go. I've heard Tokyo is good, but that'd be way too crowded for me.Nov 12 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, since I never worked for #Red_Hat, I've fortunately avoided needing to get the mandatory #Shadowman tattoo RHAT employees must getNov 12 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] My favourite biscuit is bourbon #MumsNetNov 12 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Friday http://lwn.net/Articles/415149/rssNov 12 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn you must have confused a lot of people. Did you spell out LaTeX for the record?Nov 12 19:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "Look out honey 'cause I'm using technology..."Nov 12 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Reviewing "A Computer In The Art Room" is really making me reconsider the relationship between digital art and academia. In a good way.Nov 12 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera My end or Roys?Nov 12 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @bkuhn:You defended USA infrastructure. There is no nice way to say it. Your government's model is heading for a game of squash heart attackNov 12 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera I hoping to take ownership of the remastering and fx editing over the weekend....Nov 12 19:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin  How do shortening urls work on identica?  it just does it, when it makes my message go over the 140  characters? or?Nov 12 19:11
_Goblinnot sure.....sometimes it shortens other times it doesn't.....Nov 12 19:12
_Goblinnot sure if it reduces only if you go over 140Nov 12 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] Awesome chat w/Kathi Fletcher (of @cnxorg) re:OER Publishing API http://www.drumbeat.org/project/roadmap-open-education-highway #drumbeatNov 12 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] There was a PICASO manual printout in the Computing In Design room when I arrived there in 1995. I was amused by the AFRICA command.Nov 12 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @mlinksva: RT @nyergler Idea: Innovate on the open web, instead of building a bigger silo and calling it a "community".Nov 12 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes: You have asked a question you know the answer to. I want the broadcast to go well. But why was Roy's sound so bad? Educate us.Nov 12 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] All graphics environments should have a command that draws an outline of the continent of Africa...Nov 12 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Kill 'em all http://ur1.ca/2c0zgNov 12 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New RedHat pricing - c0t0d0s0.org http://bit.ly/d7yt75Nov 12 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes: Even I gave up with the last audiocast. Take control and make it sound nice. I like the message but it must be at least so so.Nov 12 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Part II is ready for your reading pleasure: Introducing students to the world of open source: Day 2 |http://bit.ly/bR6e9WNov 12 19:31
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sebsebsebhmm I wonder why the message I just posted on identica hasn't appeared here yetNov 12 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fuck yeah! Fargo Prove It intro FTW! Holy crap!!!!Nov 12 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera I thought it improved, since the 1st one...Nov 12 19:33
schestowitz_Goblin: heyNov 12 19:34
schestowitzReady yet?Nov 12 19:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: hmm why is the message I just posted on identica not showing here?Nov 12 19:35
_GoblinHi!Nov 12 19:35
_Goblinand yes....but can we speak...I want you to hear something first...Nov 12 19:35
_Goblinremade the intro....I would like your opinion on it.Nov 12 19:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: if I send  something to a group, it doesn't show here  or?Nov 12 19:37
schestowitz_Goblin: cool. we can do it in the callNov 12 19:37
schestowitzLet me just get some stuff out of the way first... came back literally 3 minutes agoNov 12 19:38
_Goblinok....I'll just finish my dinnerNov 12 19:38
_Goblinand have a smokeNov 12 19:38
schestowitz[18:22] <gnufreex> haha.. some idiot thinks adobe will listen to him http://getsatisfaction.com/adobe/topics/produce_creative_suite_for_linuxNov 12 19:38
schestowitzGood newsNov 12 19:38
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schestowitzI got another convert to FedoraNov 12 19:38
schestowitzAfter some 'splainingNov 12 19:38
schestowitzPart of it was to do with how Microsoft does not litenNov 12 19:38
schestowitzI explained to him about kilpperNov 12 19:39
schestowitzAnd he -- being a programmer -- thought, "damn! That's what I always need"Nov 12 19:39
schestowitzThey use XPNov 12 19:39
schestowitzAnd he didn't know about virtual desktops eitherNov 12 19:39
schestowitzTomorrow I'll teach himNov 12 19:39
schestowitz[18:23] <gnufreex> That is same company that makes Trash and has only one dev working on Linux version of Trash.Nov 12 19:39
schestowitzDisgruntledNov 12 19:40
schestowitzAnd for 64-bit Trash he just change all the vars to double and compiled, I heardNov 12 19:40
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schestowitzI think  that's why they pulled it and reuploaded later something more decentNov 12 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Red Hat's Secret Patent Deal and the Fate of JBoss Developers (Gigaom) http://lwn.net/Articles/415193/rssNov 12 19:41
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schestowitzAIIA releases Vic election IT manifestoNov 12 19:42
schestowitzZDNet Australia (blog)Nov 12 19:42
schestowitz@schestowitz Attacking my countryman Oliva now ? ZDnet is more and more outlandish. Samsung Galaxy Tab: iPad Rival or Handheld Computer? ...Nov 12 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Drinking the last of @rodcjohnson's tsipouro.... :(Nov 12 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera I managed to do noise removal. Still, Tim's mic is better than mine.Nov 12 19:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/quadricode/status/3135602480390145Nov 12 19:43
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sebsebsebHmm this would be properly good news if only #system76 provided other !linux distros as well not just #ubuntu http://ur1.ca/2c10qNov 12 19:43
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schestowitzFUS du jourNov 12 19:43
schestowitz_Goblin: should we 'shoot' trolls?Nov 12 19:43
schestowitzI see some FUD pieces todayNov 12 19:43
schestowitzWe could have fun debunking thoseNov 12 19:43
schestowitz"I found that article poor. "if all you want to do is watch a movie, don't do Linux" he did much much more than "watch a movie""Nov 12 19:43
sebsebsebgomerx @sebsebseb Zareason ships internationally and will install may distros. Often have similar models. http://zareason.com !linuxNov 12 19:44
schestowitzthere's this dude telling canonical to buy s76Nov 12 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: It has, I put myself in the situation of the person who listens for the first time and is not committed they will not forgiveNov 12 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Fedora Scholarship Program to Proliferate Open Source Technology http://ur1.ca/2c0reNov 12 19:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @fedora Fedora Scholarship Program to Proliferate Open Source Technology http://ur1.ca/2c0reNov 12 19:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to rehearsals....Nov 12 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] An entire 8-bit computer in Minecraft http://ur1.ca/2c167Nov 12 19:53
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_Goblinschestowitz: that fits in quite nicely with some feedback i have....Nov 12 19:55
schestowitzShould we add the amiga trackNov 12 19:55
schestowitzYou can if you editNov 12 19:55
schestowitzAs well as put in the new demNov 12 19:56
schestowitzAs well as put in the new demo/introNov 12 19:56
_Goblinready for a call?Nov 12 19:56
schestowitzFor noise cancellation it's a simple two-step thingNov 12 19:56
schestowitzHighlight long segment of silent, "get profile", then run filterNov 12 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @harishpillay @fedora #Fedora Scholarship Program to Proliferate #OpenSource Technology http://ur1.ca/2c0reNov 12 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] if you think cider is fruity, you are definitely drinking the wrong stuff.Nov 12 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 90 dents!Nov 12 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: I will not mention this again, I wanted to help a little and came across as an absolute nit picking arse.Nov 12 19:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] thoughts welcome on proposed error message for missing Free firmware: http://lwn.net/Articles/415189/Nov 12 20:01
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sebsebsebSo I was thinking earlier, about how Ubuntu is Mac OS X like since 10.04, a bit more so with Unity I mean it even has a dock or something like a dock.  Right, but  what could happen in the future is that Ubuntu gets pretty popular,  much more than now, masses popular,  but  mainly with those who then use it that can't afford Mac OS X?  Is that really the type of people we want using   a Desktop Linux distro?  So Ubuntu would be like the poorNov 12 20:02
sebsebsebmans Mac OS X in this case, hmm.  Also Mac OS X would still be seen as the better one by many people,  in the kind of way that Microsoft Office is seen as better by most people that know about Open Office.   Open Office is just seen as playing catch up by most of these people compared to Microsoft Office.  So yeah in this case,  Ubuntu would be seen as playing catch up against Mac OS X,  and Apple could improve Mac OS X if they become similarNov 12 20:02
sebsebsebenough, and then most would get Mac OS X I guess, because they will think its the better one, well those that can afford it I mean hmm.  So any comments for all of this?Nov 12 20:02
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin MinceR gnufreex cubezzz hazzy ^^^^^^Nov 12 20:03
dyfetIt is the inevitable consequence when you try to look like something else you will be compared not for the things you do differently but for the things you do similar but more poorlyNov 12 20:04
dyfetHence I agree it is an abysmyl strategy to pursueNov 12 20:04
sebsebsebalso Ubuntu may just end up helping Mac OS X if it goes like I was sayingNov 12 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] /me is having a problem uploading an image through the identi.ca web interface. Is there a file size limit?Nov 12 20:04
sebsebseb,because then many people will be used to Mac OS X like stuff, and then many will want the real thing like I was sayingNov 12 20:04
gnufreexThat is reason i dislike canonical ltd.Nov 12 20:05
dyfetWell, they will always "compare" it against OS/X certainly, rather than understanding how or why it is differentNov 12 20:05
dyfetIt invites market rejectionNov 12 20:05
sebsebsebexactly and most Ubuntu users won't really understand about software freedom,  or understand it properly, or even know, so things are quite hmmNov 12 20:05
gnufreexThey will end up like Linspire...Nov 12 20:06
gnufreexLindowsNov 12 20:06
dyfetBut I am not sure it would particularly help Apple...unless one might say the same about Microsoft windows 7 helping os/x by trying to imitate it?Nov 12 20:06
sebsebsebat the moment most Ubuntu users,  compare to Windows, but if it continues like it is now, which it will, I guess many will start to mainly compare it against Mac OS X insteadNov 12 20:06
gnufreexAnd that is another reason i hate Mono. Patent threats aside, copying competitor and fighting battle you can't win is plain stupid.Nov 12 20:07
dyfetAnd that is my point too, every detail it does more poorly are the ones the users will notice and reviewers will compare, forgetting the differencesNov 12 20:07
sebsebsebdyfet: market rejection what did you mean by that by the way?Nov 12 20:08
dyfetWhen you create something that is somewhat like something else, but does those things people expect more poorly, you kill your own branding and the market will reject youNov 12 20:09
sebsebsebgnufreex: and yeah exactly, why are a lot of these  open source projects, playing catch up against propritary software?  Why not just be different and inovate?Nov 12 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I've heard a magpie's songNov 12 20:09
dyfetMuch interesting and original work is done in free softwareNov 12 20:09
ThistleWeb"be different and inovate" hmmm, maybe they should try something like unity and waylandNov 12 20:10
dyfetas to "open source" projects, that is a different movement, I cannot comment on their innovation ;)Nov 12 20:10
sebsebsebdyfet: well yes, but there is also a lot of playing catch upNov 12 20:10
MinceRsebsebseb: i hope OOo won't play catch up as far as the GUI goes, the ribbon is retarded :>Nov 12 20:10
MinceRsebsebseb: and yes, ubuntu seems to have adopted a "gratis os x" directionNov 12 20:10
gnufreexsebsebseb: there are not same. Some free copies of proprietary software and made deliberatly that way with plan of Embrace Extend Extinguish. That could be good strategy like Microsoft shownNov 12 20:11
dyfetwayland is a perfect example...nobody has truly created an enterprise X desktop that fully leverages the real benefits of separating computing from display, instead trying to clone the strangled and limited vision of things like Microsoft WindowsNov 12 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linaro group advances Linux on ARM with 11.10 release (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/415200/rssNov 12 20:11
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gnufreexBut some copicats are not out to compete against propritary software, but rather help it. Like Mono.Nov 12 20:11
dyfetThere is a "N" in GNOME, yet it never is truly shown :)Nov 12 20:11
sebsebsebdyfet: What do you mean?Nov 12 20:12
dyfetGNU Network Object Model Environment....Nov 12 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I was unable to boot the latest #natty daily-live ISO, so I installed #maverick and now I am upgrading it to natty. I hope it will work...Nov 12 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] This is how you write to get your point across http://ur1.ca/2c1b7Nov 12 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] KUUUUUHHHN! http://ur1.ca/2c1bfNov 12 20:13
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sebsebsebMinceR: yeah the Facebook and Macs are cool generation, thats who Ubuntu wants,  the computer ignorants in other words hmmNov 12 20:13
dyfetWhat happened to the N? :)Nov 12 20:13
MinceRsebsebseb: well, most computer users are ignorantsNov 12 20:13
sebsebsebMinceR: indeed and thats a problem really, but most people have no ideaNov 12 20:13
sebsebsebMinceR: that use computersNov 12 20:13
sebsebsebsure it is a problem for example, when many of these  peoples get taken over by cyber criminals for a start?Nov 12 20:14
MinceRindeedNov 12 20:14
dyfetImagine being able to log into any workstation in your environment, moving apps where you need them, or following you as you go...these are things that can be done with X...should be done with X...but often are not because a far more limited vision is usedNov 12 20:14
gnufreexdyfet: De Icaza planed GNOME to be copycat of Microsoft ole. But later when he become hard core Microsoft fanboy, he decided that Mono can do more damage to free software so he created that.Nov 12 20:14
sebsebsebin fact I was looking at my hotmail account the other night, where I get a lot of spam, and well  some people I  used to know,  there accounts had either  been taken over, or spammers were just pretending to send as themNov 12 20:14
sebsebsebMinceR: however I guess a lot of these people where, stuff like that happens to them,  in a way they deserve it,  their fault that they used computers, but didn't learn a bit more about themNov 12 20:15
gnufreexGNOME acronym should be GNU's Not Open to Microsoft EntrysmNov 12 20:15
dyfetWhy is it so hard to create a desktop shortcut to launch an x app on another machine and display locally?  That should be integrated and simplified.  That too is about the power of X that is lost in so called "modern" desktops...Nov 12 20:15
sebsebsebcould blame all these taken over computers on education if we want as well, because they teach Microsoft Office and such, rather than computer security as well, and I mean more than just an anti virus being installedNov 12 20:16
MinceRdyfet: X can't move clients from one server to anotherNov 12 20:16
sebsebsebblame most of them on that we could I meanNov 12 20:16
MinceRxpra as an intermediate layer can do something of the sortNov 12 20:16
MinceRbut i suspect there's an overheadNov 12 20:16
sebsebsebas extreame as this may sound, maybe there should be a like test in the future, before people are alloweed to use their own computer online, a security test, and a good oneNov 12 20:16
gnufreexGNOME: GNU's Not Open for Microsoft Entrysm. schestowitzNov 12 20:16
Diablo-D3I have discovered the best game everNov 12 20:16
dyfetgnufreex: I like that one :)Nov 12 20:17
Diablo-D3http://l33tlabs.com/pix_home.htmlNov 12 20:17
dyfetMincer: X means you can choose where the application displays though...Nov 12 20:17
Diablo-D3steve ballmer + xbox + the strogg == the guy on the leftNov 12 20:17
sebsebsebtwo tests, and so on before, people are alloweed to drive their own car out on the road, so maybe in the future, there should be a seucrity test before people are alloweed to go online?   or  OS's should be illegal for use online,  like Windows would be in this case, unless they are rather secure ?Nov 12 20:17
sebsebsebmost people that use computers, don't really care about them, and thats half of the problem, not just that they use Windows,   I mean the security and such problemsNov 12 20:18
MinceRdyfet: yes, but it can't move while it's runningNov 12 20:19
sebsebsebhowever when I get junk email to  my hotmail address, that says its from people I had on there,  then yeah I can useaully think, well I knew it, this person didn't really care about computersNov 12 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] @richslxh great! we hope it goes well for you! Glad to hear you're using it in both places!Nov 12 20:19
MinceRsebsebseb: the issue is that some authority would control these permitsNov 12 20:19
MinceRit would be abusedNov 12 20:19
sebsebsebMinceR: well yeah exactly thats the problem with thatNov 12 20:19
MinceRjust like all power wielded by authorities is abusedNov 12 20:19
dyfetMincer: my point is that there is a lot that could be done with desktops and X that cannot be done by these other things, and we should be developing those things that are distinct and advantageousNov 12 20:20
MinceRdyfet: but should it be done at the level of the windowing system?Nov 12 20:20
MinceRone issue is that local applications have a great advantage of bandwidth and reaction timeNov 12 20:20
MinceRafaikNov 12 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Michael #Meeks points out: dual-license/ #Open_Core companies prohibit proprietary licensees from supporting FLOSS forks http://ur1.ca/2c1deNov 12 20:21
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MinceRDiablo-D3: i wonder if it was intentional :>Nov 12 20:21
Diablo-D3it wasNov 12 20:21
dyfetand much has been done to optimize the local execution use case...but the other ones have been lost and ignoredNov 12 20:21
Diablo-D3the guy on the right is stalin + mbison + marioNov 12 20:21
Diablo-D3and the guy at the top is at least jack thompson with other shit mixed inNov 12 20:22
MinceR:)Nov 12 20:22
sebsebsebdyfet: Are you new here?Nov 12 20:22
Diablo-D3the guy whos part of the team whos making this is a regular in a channel Im inNov 12 20:22
dyfetNo, just gnu ;)Nov 12 20:22
MinceRdyfet: interfacing over the network is inherently more difficultNov 12 20:22
sebsebsebdyfet: yeah I think I might have seen you here before, but not sureNov 12 20:23
MinceRhe's been here beforeNov 12 20:23
dyfetthe network is also to me the more interesting problem and potential...Nov 12 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @jezra KUUUUUHHHN! http://ur1.ca/2c1bfNov 12 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Chrisette Michele Blast Rick Ross For Walking Out On The Soul Train Awards | Entertainment/Music | Peacefmonline.com http://ur1.ca/2c1eoNov 12 20:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Not much to say http://ur1.ca/2c1epNov 12 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Haggis is British? #BBCMastermindNov 12 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RedHat’s Secret Patent Deal and the Fate of JBoss Developers by Bruce Perens http://ping.fm/QpnBrNov 12 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @jezra @x1101,it doesn't look right at *all* w/ my headshot where I'm smiling. You need to find a CC-By-SA photo of me where I'm pissed off.Nov 12 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @jezra,you violated #CC-By-SA license on my headshot by combing it w/ proprietary Parmount ©'d work. OTOH,you'll win on parody &/or fair useNov 12 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @bkuhn just to take the fun out of things... would the license really matter? I would argue that this falls under FairUse due to parodyNov 12 20:31
hazzyLOLNov 12 20:32
hazzyDid anyone else read about the return of KIN?Nov 12 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, In fitting w/ our telegram communication discussion earlier this week, my reaction to @jezra's work is: "What hath @kaz wrought?"Nov 12 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @jezra section 2 of !CC-BY-SA 3.0 has explicit affirmation of fair use rights and the likeNov 12 20:33
dyfetreturn of the kin...yeah, while most people would associate Microsoft with sadism, I might suggest massochism in this case ;)Nov 12 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] #TheBigBangTheory [rox] :DNov 12 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, what?!?! Are you saying you're going to defend @jezra in the © law suit I'm going to file against him? (Kidding: I agree fair use)Nov 12 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !LibreOffice: the number of developers has risen to over 90, which is far more than !OpenOffice had http://ping.fm/MZtOrNov 12 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Aha! Now @otter is a downstream redistributor! Another person infringing my copyrigts. The defendant list grows. (I'm still kidding! :)Nov 12 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Murray losing, quelle surpriseNov 12 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I'd be more worried about Paramount (Viacom?) but would guess lawsuit is of minimal likelihoodNov 12 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hey folks, does Micro$oft finger scanner work on Linux ? What driver, if any ?Nov 12 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fontana @bkuhn henceforth, I will refer to "Fair Use: Parody" as "fun use"Nov 12 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Did Ubuntu disrespect Fedora Linux with openrespect? - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner http://ping.fm/qMK2RNov 12 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, so you think! But I also reported the © violation to Rick Berman at Paramount. They're going to be co-plaintiff. (Still kidding!)Nov 12 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn @otter is lucky @kaz opted for more liberal license for !faifcastNov 12 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Stephen Fry just mentioned the "word" #iPad, it was inevitable #QINov 12 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn Actually, I dunno if @kaz saying "KUUUUHN" is copyrightable; check with @copiesofcopiesNov 12 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[loophole87/@loophole87] Hushhhh... It's Drone Zone.. -_-Nov 12 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #GlennBeck hates Jews and considers Hitler a great guy http://ur1.ca/2c1jhNov 12 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Fedora criticised for hacker tool ban - SQLninja not going in the repository http://ping.fm/1Ci5SNov 12 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @silner: #LibreOffice: the number of developers has risen to over 90, which is far more than #OpenOffice had http://ping.fm/MZtOrNov 12 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @bkuhn it just dawned on me that the movie could be considered part of the original series. I always saw them as different entities.Nov 12 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, #IANAL but I'd bet as a performance it *is* ©able, since her way of expressing it was uniquely hers. But again, there's fair use.Nov 12 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn But I guess @kaz is making a derivative work of Paramount's via William #ShatnerNov 12 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, yeah, IMO @kaz's statement was derivative of Paramount's work, but she probably also had parody exception and fair use as well.Nov 12 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana needs more U'sNov 12 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @copiesofcopies, that gave me 1st lol in this thread. I'm reminded of discussion of how many "Alrights" on must sing to make it copyrighted.Nov 12 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @pranesh_prakash: Very exciting! India's new Open Standards policy's finalized: http://goo.gl/4YfeD [pdf] #openstdsNov 12 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @copiesofcopies, that gave me first lol in this thread. I'm reminded of discussion of how many "Alrights" one must sing to yield a ©ed work.Nov 12 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Bouncing Off of Menus http://bit.ly/9m28FqNov 12 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn http://ur1.ca/25jxo http://ur1.ca/2c1m7Nov 12 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Indian Open Standards policy finalized--major victory for the FOSS community http://ping.fm/d8OEENov 12 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn Alfresco is in process of removing LGPL licensed JBoss stuff from their product, only because they can't make it proprietary. LinksNov 12 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Scores were -17 and -16, Danny Baker says "You beat me by -1 points" #MathematicsNov 12 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I managed to start the new, compiz-based !Unity. This is a very early beta indeed. Screenshots coming soon...Nov 12 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tight race! EFF supporter hopes to put us on top; pledges $10K match. Donate by 5PM thru #PayPal! https://eff.org/r.t9U #doubledonateNov 12 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hey folks, Mac On Linux. Does it work ? How can I do it ?Nov 12 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @gnufreex, companies like #Alfresco are so transparently horrible: "We love #copyleft for our *own* ©, everything else must be permissive".Nov 12 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn Indeed, but they said they are moving everything to BSDlike. It would be fun to watch others stealing their code if they really moveNov 12 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @gnufreex, abandoning *all* proprietary relicensing business? That's good news, frankly, in sense it shows business model isn't worth it.Nov 12 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @gnufreex, IMO fully permissive is better than proprietary relicensing since at least all are on equal footing;Of course I prefer 100% !FaifNov 12 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "It's All Text!","ReloadEvery","Taboo","Greasemonkey","DownThemAll!","Tamper Data","Web Developer" are some !Firefox 4.0-incompatible addonsNov 12 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] RD @fontana needs more U's > #lol !faifcastNov 12 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Tight race! EFF supporter hopes to put us on top; pledges $10K match. Donate by 5PM thru #PayPal https://eff.org/r.t9U #doubledonateNov 12 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] RD @copiesofcopies: @fontana needs more U's > #lol !faifcastNov 12 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn No, I don't think they will go that far. BSD only for unsupported community v, EE will remain 100% proprietary as it was always beenNov 12 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] We're all related to a small fish which decided to jump out the waterNov 12 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Show what you think of Microsoft with ascii | ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^› | :D !debian !linux #funNov 12 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I am pissed offNov 12 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Skype for webOS 2.0 gets the hands-on treatment http://ur1.ca/2c23gNov 12 22:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] BURG Manager 1.0 Released With Option To Boot ISO From BURG, New Themes, More http://bit.ly/cQnnBkNov 12 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Biofuel proving silly http://ur1.ca/2c26cNov 12 22:28
sebsebsebNice RMS subscribed to me as well on identica :)Nov 12 22:29
schestowitz:-)Nov 12 22:30
sebsebsebI was giong to subscribe to him before, but something, whatever it wasNov 12 22:30
sebsebsebschestowitz: anyway I thinik he maybe subscribes to nearly everyone who subscribes to him, well it looks like that may be the caseNov 12 22:32
schestowitzStallman is EVERYWHERENov 12 22:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: looks like he is subscribed to spam accounts as well hmmNov 12 22:34
sebsebsebmaybe he does auto subscribeing to everyone that subscribes to him?Nov 12 22:34
sebsebsebalso identica is rather bad it seems, at dealing with these spam/fake accountsNov 12 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I best point out I know little of #Twitter having only tried it twice and both times thinking it was inferiorNov 12 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Incidentally, does anyone know what looks like a #Waxwing but sounds like a type of ThrushNov 12 22:39
schestowitz_Goblin: I need you to send me the track before I can export as oggNov 12 22:42
schestowitz[20:16] <gnufreex> GNOME: GNU's Not Open for Microsoft Entrysm. schestowitzNov 12 22:43
schestowitz s/Not/Now/?Nov 12 22:43
sebsebsebschestowitz: there we go I just messaged RMS on there :)Nov 12 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @rms I have never contacted you before: Thank You for starting the !GNU Project, !FSF, and #GPLNov 12 22:46
schestowitzHe doesn't read itNov 12 22:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh?Nov 12 22:46
schestowitzpaste it herNov 12 22:47
schestowitzpaste it herwNov 12 22:47
schestowitzpaste it hereNov 12 22:47
sebsebsebthe bot just picked up on itNov 12 22:47
sebsebsebas you can seeNov 12 22:47
schestowitzI think you didNov 12 22:47
cubezzzdoes Stallman ever use IRC?Nov 12 22:47
schestowitznot afaikNov 12 22:47
schestowitzemacs, the 'OS', supports it, right?Nov 12 22:47
schestowitzemacs can do identicaNov 12 22:47
MinceRyesNov 12 22:47
MinceRthere's ERCNov 12 22:47
cubezzzI'm not an emacs person :)Nov 12 22:48
sebsebseboh yeah I didn't say about emacs, but well I don't really use that, anyway emacs is part of the GNU project isn't it?Nov 12 22:48
schestowitzeMacNov 12 22:48
schestowitzhypePaNov 12 22:48
schestowitzhypeMacNov 12 22:48
cubezzzvi vi vi is the number of the beast! :)Nov 12 22:48
schestowitzGoes without saying...Nov 12 22:48
MinceRemacs is an interesting operating system, all it lacks is a decent editorNov 12 22:48
MinceR:>Nov 12 22:49
MinceRthough i hear VIPER is trying...Nov 12 22:49
schestowitztry emacsNov 12 22:49
amarsh04RMS, like Knuth seems to operate in "offline" mode - getting stuff when needed and convenient, but not one for staying connectNov 12 22:49
schestowitzdoes emacs run emacs?Nov 12 22:49
cubezzzhonestly I like vi/vimNov 12 22:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: RMS doesn't read idnetica? well we are getting messages from that account?Nov 12 22:49
cubezzzexcept I don't like the coloured vim stuffNov 12 22:49
schestowitzrecursive emacs.. gnu is not gnu is not getting jealous now...Nov 12 22:50
cubezzzcomments dark blue...Nov 12 22:50
cubezzzgngNov 12 22:50
schestowitzsebsebseb: bots or apprentice/protegeNov 12 22:50
cubezzzgingNov 12 22:50
amarsh04I mean that I think that rms would log the identica traffic and respond when convenient, but not be distracted by a constant flow of dentsNov 12 22:51
Balrog_amarsh04: that is true.Nov 12 22:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: so thats why it auto subscribes nearly everyone or well everyone the RMS account?Nov 12 22:51
Balrog_he downloads web pages, emails them to himself, and reads them off-lineNov 12 22:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: since its some sort of computer program doing the messages?Nov 12 22:51
MinceRi thought a program did the download/email partNov 12 22:52
Balrog_MinceR: probablyNov 12 22:53
Balrog_easy to scriptNov 12 22:53
MinceRi read about them back when i didn't even have dialup except the one run by freemail.hu (only for mail access)Nov 12 22:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: whats apprentice/protege ?Nov 12 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Unity Places Architecture http://goo.gl/vbm2S !uNov 12 22:54
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*sebsebseb wonders if he should maybe delete the message to @rms so doesn't look stupid on there? :dNov 12 22:55
Balrog_sebsebseb: is @rms on identi.ca real?Nov 12 22:56
Balrog_afaik the one on twitter is fake, account suspendedNov 12 22:56
sebsebsebBalrog_: well there are messages from the @rms  and  they appear in here even, but apparently schestowitz was saying its not himNov 12 22:56
Balrog_doesn't seem realNov 12 22:57
Balrog_then probably you should deleteNov 12 22:57
sebsebsebanyway I sent it to !GNU and !FSF as well and tagged  with #GPL even, so yeah,  I probably should delete reallyNov 12 22:58
sebsebseband why would the real Stallman if he was using the site, subscribe to well basically everyone or everyone,  including spam accounts?Nov 12 22:58
sebsebseband why is identica so bad at dealing with spam accounts and such?Nov 12 22:59
amarsh04the rms ones I've seen have been pointers to stallman.org postings - rms could be running a script to post them spread out in timeNov 12 22:59
sebsebsebok its like that omg accountNov 12 23:00
sebsebsebit links to stuff on the siteNov 12 23:00
amarsh04even though it's scripted, rms is the authorNov 12 23:00
schestowitzyeahNov 12 23:01
Balrog_sebsebseb: I don't knowNov 12 23:01
Balrog_do they have a robust reporting system?Nov 12 23:01
sebsebsebwell looking at the rms replies, there are some others, where people are replying to him, like a real personNov 12 23:01
schestowitzBalrog_: it's not an abusive accountNov 12 23:02
schestowitzrms at identica is widely subscribed toNov 12 23:02
Balrog_schestowitz: I meant for the other spammersNov 12 23:03
sebsebsebBalrog_: I flagged acocunts last night, ones that subscribed to me, and they all seem to still beNov 12 23:03
sebsebsebBalrog_: I read something some where about lack of volunters for the spam or something, so they want moreNov 12 23:04
Balrog_I see :(Nov 12 23:04
sebsebsebmaybe RMS  sees some of himself on thereNov 12 23:05
sebsebsebjust doesn't bother replying on there?Nov 12 23:05
amarsh04falsely claiming something as spam is worse to me than letting spam through - that kind of behaviour blocked me sending emails via my isp's mail server to state government addressesNov 12 23:05
Balrog_that's why it's not a good idea to use APEWSNov 12 23:06
sebsebsebwell at least Jono uses it for real, but thats Jono, so thats quite differnet really as wellNov 12 23:06
sebsebsebhe needs to use it as one of his ways to spread Ubuntu hypeNov 12 23:06
sebsebsebheh heh I guessNov 12 23:06
sebsebsebanyway I haven't read it yet, but whats this nonsense about openrespect  disrespecting FedoraNov 12 23:08
sebsebsebthey had tha on Linux Today as well, but not read the actsaul aritcle/blog entry yetNov 12 23:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Wine 1.3.7 Has Improved System Tray Support: There's a new Wine development release out this Friday afternoon th... http://bit.ly/dsUiK9Nov 12 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Quick Test Of OpenGL In Mac OS X 10.6.5: In August we reviewed Apple's Enhanced OpenGL Stack that was introduc... http://bit.ly/bcevuTNov 12 23:13
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sebsebsebthere we go another message on identica about that, and thats  sorted :)Nov 12 23:17
sebsebsebaltough I had to re do, so it would group and tag  properlyNov 12 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] So apparently @rms doesn't even read this stuff, ah well I guess. !gnu !fsf #gplNov 12 23:18
schestowitzrms is recursive acrnymNov 12 23:18
schestowitzrms missing siteNov 12 23:19
schestowitzacronymNov 12 23:19
schestowitzin absentiaNov 12 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost who, when, how?Nov 12 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @sebsebseb you can email him and he'll respond quickly. A few interesting notes about emailing him are available here: http://ur1.ca/2c2jwNov 12 23:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost aha, I seeNov 12 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Corporate Copyright Scofflaws 0008 - Agence France-Presse http://bit.ly/aHSSu4Nov 12 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Twitter joker loses appeal http://ur1.ca/2c2kvNov 12 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Yes, Tiririca Can!!!Nov 12 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Back to my teens: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXs93KbBCgY - much better times.... Todays music scene is a hopeless imitation of the past.Nov 12 23:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Can your programming language do this so easily? http://is.gd/gYYz9Nov 12 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just finished recording !Techbytes with Roy, great stuff....going to unwind ....maybe even a little Auteria!Nov 12 23:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @alexkorth Privacy protects us from abuses by those in power, even if we're doing nothing wrong at the time of surveillance.Nov 12 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Pior do que tá não ficaNov 12 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] It can't get any worse...Nov 12 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @pietercolpaert RT @alexkorth Privacy protects us from abuses by those in power, even if we're doing nothing wrong at the time of sur ...Nov 12 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost I may port pydentica to pygi if I canNov 12 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Microsoft Demonstrates why FRAND Licensing is a Sham - http://bit.ly/cZDf7J 'cos it isn't necessarily "fair" or "reasonabl...Nov 12 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera Not at all. Actually, we used your advice and tried to improve in today's recording.Nov 12 23:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @osamak Ok thanks for the link, but I expect Stallman has a very busy email account, so I am not sure about emailing him. @rmsNov 12 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Slight detourNov 12 23:58

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