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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm huh? | Nov 17 00:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I've seen two jobs requesting skills related to ForgeRock products advertised this week. Very exciting. http://bit.ly/boiwGO | Nov 17 00:02 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=bill+gates+on+linux | Nov 17 00:03 |
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schestowitz | Hmmm... top results both us | Nov 17 00:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Vint Cerf, !lca2011 keynote calls for action on migration to IPv6 http://cli.gs/83ehR0 | Regular regos now available after EBs sold out! | Nov 17 00:03 | |
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bruce89 | just seems rather amusing | Nov 17 00:14 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc2-git1 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 17 00:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @sebsebseb maybe, I'm not sure | Nov 17 00:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] whoa! !nanowrimo just surpassed 200,000 participants | Nov 17 00:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Thx to CC licenses @PrathamBooks got Braille & audio books to print-impaired kids across the world. Read how & support CC bit.ly/9Ecz5m | Nov 17 00:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Speaks for itself: http://ur1.ca/2d4do "the SD card in your phone can't be used in other Windows Phones, PCs, or other devices." !fsf !dbd | Nov 17 00:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hey @pinheirokde I want to use some(3) icons from Oxygen iconset in a bootsplash image for a liveCD I'm building. Do I need to do something? | Nov 17 00:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 3: Pushing My Buttons http://f.ast.ly/PewLC | Nov 17 00:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Intel pares 45nm Cores to prep for Sandy Bridge - News - Linux for Devices http://ur1.ca/2d4il | Nov 17 01:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] i hope this class speeds out of orbit so i can hustle to my crib | Nov 17 01:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Do you know where you're going? http://ur1.ca/2d4jn Very cool link between the calendar/maps app on #WebOS | Nov 17 01:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ark74: RD @hound: #gnu http://ur1.ca/2d38l | Reconoce tu Libertad, es tu Derecho Natural# - Usa Software Libre! | Nov 17 01:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Testando o Google Chrome!!! | Nov 17 01:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @lxoliva É, estamos vivendo a ditadura do PC e da patrulha. 1984 perde... | Nov 17 01:33 | |
WireWulf | now in english :P | Nov 17 01:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Cha cha cha changes in my getting-things-done habits http://f.ast.ly/PQHRn | Nov 17 01:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] ET-XreaL Continues Moving Towards Better Graphics: A few days ago I wrote about major changes coming to the Urba... http://bit.ly/ar874H | Nov 17 01:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] i don't understand. hulu plus appears to be hulu minus, as hulu plus is missing the episodes i see on the free website. | Nov 17 01:47 | |
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gnubie | hey guys | Nov 17 01:47 |
gnubie | would it be possible to have a techrights room at FOSDEM? :) | Nov 17 01:47 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: hmm | Nov 17 01:48 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: as far as I know no one from techrights is going to FOSDEM | Nov 17 01:49 |
gnubie | oh | Nov 17 01:49 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: however maybe some are, and you would want to talk to schestowitz about that, but I think he is away right now | Nov 17 01:49 |
gnubie | I think techrights needs to have more of a presence at tech events | Nov 17 01:50 |
gnubie | to help spread the word | Nov 17 01:50 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: What is FOSDEM exactly anyway, I mean I have heard of it, but thats about it really | Nov 17 01:50 |
sebsebseb | not so sure what it is and such | Nov 17 01:50 |
sebsebseb | ,but I know Mageia are going there :D | Nov 17 01:50 |
gnubie | Mageia? | Nov 17 01:50 |
sebsebseb | going to do the board vote their or whatever | Nov 17 01:50 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: A Mandriva fork | Nov 17 01:51 |
sebsebseb | alpha 1 next month, I look forward :) | Nov 17 01:51 |
gnubie | oh, right | Nov 17 01:51 |
gnubie | I forgot the name | Nov 17 01:51 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: also I am going to be something proper community stuff for it so uhmm | Nov 17 01:51 |
gnubie | FOSDEM is a FLOSS developer conference | Nov 17 01:51 |
sebsebseb | yeah I guess i'll end up going to tech events in the future | Nov 17 01:51 |
sebsebseb | open source stuff I mean | Nov 17 01:52 |
gnubie | yea | Nov 17 01:52 |
sebsebseb | as well as have our events for what I have started, if we get enough people interested | Nov 17 01:52 |
sebsebseb | however need an actsual stable final version of the distro, before stuff like that | Nov 17 01:53 |
sebsebseb | and enough of a users community | Nov 17 01:53 |
sebsebseb | and specificially from this country, because its for this country | Nov 17 01:53 |
sebsebseb | what I am doing officalley for the distro :) | Nov 17 01:53 |
gnubie | what are you doing? | Nov 17 01:54 |
bruce89 | hello | Nov 17 01:54 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: well it doesn't really exist properly yet, since the lack of well any ISO, but it wil be a UK Users Community :) | Nov 17 01:54 |
gnubie | ok | Nov 17 01:54 |
sebsebseb | where you from by the way? | Nov 17 01:55 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: yes hello | Nov 17 01:55 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: where you from? | Nov 17 01:56 |
gnubie | I'm from the US | Nov 17 01:56 |
gnubie | been a red hat user since 4.0 | Nov 17 01:57 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: oh right so what year was that? | Nov 17 01:58 |
gnubie | like 96 I think? | Nov 17 01:58 |
sebsebseb | oh ok :) | Nov 17 01:59 |
gnubie | or 97 | Nov 17 01:59 |
gnubie | so long ago | Nov 17 01:59 |
gnubie | when did you start using linux? | Nov 17 02:01 |
WireWulf | I was born into a world of unix with BSD and slackware | Nov 17 02:02 |
WireWulf | tho yes linux is not unix it is unix like so don;t start | Nov 17 02:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] netflix > hulu plus. seriously. netflix has had its outages, but wow hulu kind of tricked me into paying for a month and has horrible lag | Nov 17 02:03 | |
sebsebseb | gnubie: Desktop Linux since 2004 for me | Nov 17 02:06 |
sebsebseb | however at first coudn't use it online since stupid wireless device, because..... | Nov 17 02:06 |
sebsebseb | gnubie: Fedora Core 2 my first distro, did 4 as well | Nov 17 02:07 |
sebsebseb | long time to install on that old computer | Nov 17 02:07 |
sebsebseb | four hours or so | Nov 17 02:07 |
sebsebseb | four CD's or whatever as well | Nov 17 02:07 |
gnubie | ah, by the time I switched to fc, I had a dvd drive | Nov 17 02:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @pookito if you care about Freedom, it matters. If not, perhaps not. Thoughts? | Nov 17 02:10 | |
gnubie | off to watch a movie | Nov 17 02:11 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I have to say #Minecraft looks rather odd | Nov 17 02:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] This week is flying by, and day-long meetings = not getting a lot of communication done. Unhelpful since I'm on PTO all next week. | Nov 17 02:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] NJ, ID legislators ready to ban airport pornoscanners - your help needed! http://ur1.ca/2d55z | Nov 17 03:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @biella I just got home from a late night appointment with the dentist and I am elated. Really, not being ironic. I do like my dentist! | Nov 17 03:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @biella The TSA blogs, how handy http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/11/opting-out-of-advanced-imaging.html | Nov 17 03:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Can this fine for aborting screening be legal? There's no way your average person is informed about prior agreement to complete the process. | Nov 17 03:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101117 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 17 03:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz if i download music from @jamendo onto my computer, i don't necessarily know what the !cc license is. Some jamendo music is NC ND | Nov 17 03:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @laurelrusswurm Similarly when purchasing CDs from indie artists (usually post performance) you don't know what the license is 'til you look | Nov 17 03:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn Even though I disagree w/ charter of #OpenRespect, IMO, much of the commentary has been unfair to @jonobacon: My blog at http: ... | Nov 17 03:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] seems like a storm stomped #brooklyn while i was in class. mad leaves on the ground and water everywhere | Nov 17 03:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] The Internet blacklist is back! Act before Thursday: http://ur1.ca/2d5d2 | Nov 17 03:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mairin @fabsh: freedom of speech is fine, but not all speech is journalism! | Nov 17 03:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I am done with today. Grabbing a beer and parking myself in front of the box for a bit. | Nov 17 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @glynmoody I understand #Cage lived off royalties, but © maximalism is really inconsistent with the anti-authorship theme of his work | Nov 17 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn good blog post! | Nov 17 04:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm interesting. The file says #BYSA? and the page says #BYNCSA? I have seen such a mismatch in reverse before. | Nov 17 04:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] ET-XreaL Continues Moving Towards Better Graphics: A few days ago I wrote about major changes coming to the Urba... http://bit.ly/ar874H | Nov 17 04:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @TSAagent: The #TSA screening is entirely voluntary. The $10k fine is only for people who don't consent to it. | Nov 17 04:48 | |
oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/windows-8-to-showcase-desktop-as-a-service Hmm where is this going. | Nov 17 04:58 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz sorry, i'm crosseyed tired... I should be sleeping so i suspect i've said it badly. If the DL file indicates license i don't know... | Nov 17 05:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Y PPA Manager: Easily Search, Add, Remove Or Purge PPAs In Ubuntu http://bit.ly/coM5Q7 | Nov 17 05:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] H.264 Essay Posted: My essay unpacking the meaning of ‘free’ H.264 licensing is now available in the Essays section. http://bit.ly/b9ltzA | Nov 17 05:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM #Wordpress CiviCRM <-> WordPress Contact Form Thanx mlandauer http://bit.ly/a0o1p4 | Nov 17 05:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mairin What's up with the recent Microsoft obsession with kin? it makes me think of Dunkin' Donuts. "You kin do it!" http://ur1.ca/2cw01 | Nov 17 06:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @webmink H.264 Essay Posted: My essay unpacking the meaning of ‘free’ H.264 licensing is now available in the Essays section. http:// ... | Nov 17 06:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Big tip of the hat to community member Stuart from Korlon: http://bit.ly/c9M3Zl doing a big QA cycle on #CiviCRM v3.3 : http://bit.ly/d51nqk | Nov 17 06:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] APNIC chief scientist & !lca2011 keynote Geoff Huston says global migration to IPv6 is "a textbook market failure" http://cli.gs/dRHRpS | Nov 17 06:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Writing an epic blog entry. Make some cocoa, this will take a while to read when it is done.... | Nov 17 06:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram I can’t see myself on Google Earth!!!!!? http://ur1.ca/2cwbs // fake or joke? | Nov 17 06:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Booki Mobile takes to the road : http://bit.ly/a33Fsb #CiviCRM is proud of the work done by friends at FLOSS Manuals: http://bit.ly/jaINw | Nov 17 06:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @eff New @Facebook Messages #Privacy Fail: you can't delete individual messages, only all messages between you and a particular friend. | Nov 17 06:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to work... | Nov 17 06:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @civicrm Booki Mobile takes to the road : http://bit.ly/a33Fsb #CiviCRM is proud of the work done by friends at FLOSS Manuals: http: ... | Nov 17 06:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #detroit187 | Nov 17 06:35 | |
schestowitz | http://matadornetwork.com/nights/21-of-the-worlds-sexiest-rooftop-pools/ | Nov 17 06:38 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: LUGIITD mailing list has 10,000+ discussion and 1,000+ members in it. http://tinyurl.com/2wad7tx #blog http://bit.ly/d2K2jW | Nov 17 06:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @kernellogauthor #linux #kernel 2.6.37-rc2 is out http://bit.ly/9pepVn #2637 | Nov 17 06:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Genode OS Now Has A LiveCD Demo With Gallium3D: Back in July we reported that Gallium3D and Intel's GEM were por... http://bit.ly/c8ndju | Nov 17 06:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] DlbD2.jpg (580×1101) http://i.imgur.com/DlbD2.jpg | Nov 17 06:47 | |
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schestowitz | Hey, Balzac | Nov 17 07:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody John Suffolk to leave as Government CIO - a blow to G-Cloud, innovation and radical reform? - http://bit.ly/cl3xzP | Nov 17 07:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] What’s up with SUMO – Nov. 16 http://bit.ly/bCLfHU | Nov 17 07:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How freedom of speech really works. http://dilbert.com/1992-01-12/ | Nov 17 07:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] StarHub's illegal code injection screenshots - http://ur1.ca/2d6iy #fb | Nov 17 07:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Should we rejoice that H.164 is "free"? Probably not. http://webmink.com/essays/h-264/ /via @webmink | Nov 17 07:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @johnsu01: The Internet blacklist is back! Act before Thursday: http://ur1.ca/2d5d2 #fsf #gnu | Nov 17 07:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @patrickDurusau: LOD gets closer to TMRM, http://tm.durusau.net/?p=4159 | Nov 17 07:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Make it really easy to fix bugs on #Ubuntu http://is.gd/hgH32 #gnu #linux | Nov 17 07:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Is this the worst miss ever ? http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/article/24271/ !football | Nov 17 07:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The current American airport scanning is so offensive. | Nov 17 07:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] 100 Million Adblock Plus Downloads http://bit.ly/dBP8QQ | Nov 17 07:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Está Hablando "Por"las Pequeñas y Medianas Empresas (PYMES) En la UE para Promover las Patentes de Software http://is.gd/hgIPu | Nov 17 07:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @themadhatteron Conor Lenihan, Irish Politician Admits That He Is Bought And Paid For http://bit.ly/96rtIb | Nov 17 07:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @robmyers Rally for Paul Chambers in Sheffield at noon on Saturday - http://bit.ly/jokesontrial #twitter #joke #policestate #censorship | Nov 17 07:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @trashbird1240 Microsoft continues to "innovate" by doing something a GNU computer did almost 3 years ago http://is.gd/hgK8K | Nov 17 07:55 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODc4OQ | Nov 17 07:56 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft motto: we're ahead, just hold on and wait for us, show us what to do | Nov 17 07:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[loophole87/@loophole87] I am not using #Choqok. It's awesome! | Nov 17 08:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I don't have any agenda - that's what all your FOSS people don't understand. I'm merely stating my point of view." http://is.gd/hgLq5 #pov | Nov 17 08:02 | |
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schestowitz | jono: Sam's output is controversial because he touches controversial subjects | Nov 17 08:02 |
schestowitz | Sometimes he goes too far for me, but to paint all his work negatively is not fair IMHO. He does some dirty laundry sometimes, touching subjects others would not | Nov 17 08:03 |
schestowitz | I can sometimes relate to the position he's in, which may also bring LUG Radio to mind | Nov 17 08:03 |
schestowitz | Just because people may not find it /comfortable/ to hear something does not always make it untrue (sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't) | Nov 17 08:04 |
schestowitz | You said: "I appreciate your column in an opinion column, but surely the best opinion columns present the full story?" | Nov 17 08:05 |
schestowitz | OK, perfectly ok | Nov 17 08:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jonobacon Wondering if I need to hire a plane to draw "OpenRespect is not an Ubuntu/Canonical project" in the sky | Nov 17 08:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Case Against COICA - http://bit.ly/9tU3cg amongst other bad things, this will split the Net #censorship #copyright | Nov 17 08:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @loophole87 "not" or "now"? I am using it right now and love the program. | Nov 17 08:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @nhi Sick of the TSA's nude scanners? Ask your state legislators to join the movement to stop them: http://bit.ly/9h9tt2 | Nov 17 08:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Reflections On Respect - some thoughts on OpenRespect, it's reaction, and some apologies: http://is.gd/hgN9P #openrespect #community | Nov 17 08:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mairin @fabsh: freedom of speech is fine, but not all speech is journalism! > @mairin, what do you define journalism to be? | Nov 17 08:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bruce89 7 minutes of real news #RepublicNow | Nov 17 08:13 | |
jono | schestowitz I don't respect his journalistic work a all | Nov 17 08:14 |
jono | at all | Nov 17 08:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rahulsundaram !Fedora Welcomes in New Management http://ur1.ca/2d6to | Nov 17 08:15 | |
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jono | I think people such as Steven Vaughan-Nichols and Bruce Byfield are much better inspirations - always fair, and not afraid to say it as it is, but always fair and balanced | Nov 17 08:16 |
schestowitz | jono: all of it? I mean, sometimes the targets are differen | Nov 17 08:16 |
jono | schestowitz everything I have read from him | Nov 17 08:16 |
jono | maybe it is just the content I have read | Nov 17 08:16 |
schestowitz | jono: fair and balanced may mean other things | Nov 17 08:16 |
schestowitz | Fair and balanced may mean that one does not deviate much from the consensus | Nov 17 08:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] http://images.4chan.org/ is blocked in Saudi Arabia. #stupidcensorship | Nov 17 08:17 | |
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jono | I believe as a journalist it is your job to provide the full story, and I feel Sam slants it unfairly in most cases | Nov 17 08:17 |
schestowitz | jono: he has some better ones | Nov 17 08:17 |
jono | again, just my experience, he may have excellent other work | Nov 17 08:17 |
schestowitz | This one about openrespect I don't agree with him on | Nov 17 08:17 |
schestowitz | Or his anti-MarkS tirades | Nov 17 08:17 |
schestowitz | jono: "full story" is vague term | Nov 17 08:17 |
schestowitz | All news is biased | Nov 17 08:18 |
schestowitz | New York Times, Groklaw, you name it... | Nov 17 08:18 |
schestowitz | There are more than 2 sides to every coin | Nov 17 08:18 |
jono | schestowitz btw, I just posted some reflections on openrespect | Nov 17 08:18 |
schestowitz | Reading many sources and listing them is probably the best one can do | Nov 17 08:18 |
jono | might be of interest | Nov 17 08:18 |
schestowitz | Like NYT vs Wikileaks | Nov 17 08:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Righthaven's Retreat On 'Partial Copying' Cases Shows Firm's Vulnerability - http://bit.ly/bYhbTT haha, getting cold feet #copyright | Nov 17 08:18 | |
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schestowitz | jono: I saw that and already added that to next bundle of links | Nov 17 08:19 |
schestowitz | You're in my reading list | Nov 17 08:19 |
schestowitz | I didn't mention techrights in a post, just daily links | Nov 17 08:19 |
jono | schestowitz no worries, no pressure to link if you don't feel it is appropriate | Nov 17 08:19 |
schestowitz | People turn any Ubuntu signal into a fight | Nov 17 08:19 |
jono | yeah it seems so sometimes | Nov 17 08:19 |
schestowitz | And I'm tired of it cause it's productivity sink | Nov 17 08:20 |
jono | agreed | Nov 17 08:20 |
schestowitz | Mint and Fedora are the news | Nov 17 08:20 |
schestowitz | Not Wayland or Unity, IMHO | Nov 17 08:20 |
oiaohm | Wayland is news. | Nov 17 08:20 |
schestowitz | And the European Patent, which no bloody Linux sites seems to be covering | Nov 17 08:20 |
schestowitz | These are the main issues | Nov 17 08:20 |
jono | ok, I am going to bed | Nov 17 08:20 |
jono | night schestowitz | Nov 17 08:21 |
jono | take care, pal | Nov 17 08:21 |
schestowitz | Perens at least got the message out that it's our #1 issue | Nov 17 08:21 |
oiaohm | Meego Fedora lot of parties interested in wayland. | Nov 17 08:21 |
oiaohm | And as predictable Nvidia not supporting it. | Nov 17 08:21 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, but not the controversy over it coming to Ubuntu | Nov 17 08:21 |
oiaohm | Unity is contronversal. | Nov 17 08:21 |
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schestowitz | Fedora/Red Hat have worked about it for ages and Phoronix covered it | Nov 17 08:21 |
schestowitz | This just wasn't news until Ubuntu/MarkS mentioned it | Nov 17 08:22 |
schestowitz | So when Phoronix covers it, it's dull | Nov 17 08:22 |
oiaohm | Also Ubuntu willing ness not to work with upstreams has been a on going problem. | Nov 17 08:22 |
oiaohm | So unity forming was not unpredictable. | Nov 17 08:22 |
schestowitz | Then when SteveofLinux mentions it, a fight breaks out | Nov 17 08:22 |
schestowitz | true | Nov 17 08:23 |
oiaohm | Unity wm is to a lot of people a sign of Ubuntu unwillingness to work with upstreams. | Nov 17 08:23 |
oiaohm | We had tones of different wm why do we need another one. | Nov 17 08:23 |
schestowitz | But we put a lot into Ubuntu hate | Nov 17 08:23 |
schestowitz | The issue is patent hate.. SHOULD be | Nov 17 08:23 |
schestowitz | Patents! swpats! | Nov 17 08:23 |
schestowitz | Not this stuff: | Nov 17 08:23 |
schestowitz | http://slated.org/jono_bacon_prefers_windows | Nov 17 08:23 |
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schestowitz | Drama Drama Drama! | Nov 17 08:23 |
oiaohm | Some of the Ubuntu hate is Ubuntu own fault. | Nov 17 08:23 |
schestowitz | Who cares! | Nov 17 08:23 |
oiaohm | Redhat use to be hated by upstream as well when they were young. | Nov 17 08:24 |
schestowitz | ^about the post | Nov 17 08:24 |
oiaohm | For doing the same things. | Nov 17 08:24 |
schestowitz | Not about your message :-) | Nov 17 08:24 |
schestowitz | Got messages about Red Hat? | Nov 17 08:24 |
oiaohm | That is the other thing Ubuntu seams to like hugging up to windows and other other Linuxs. | Nov 17 08:24 |
oiaohm | 1996-1998 when redhat tried desktop. | Nov 17 08:25 |
schestowitz | Well, at least Red Hat has been writing lots of code which seems to be used in mainline. What about copyrights? | Nov 17 08:25 |
oiaohm | They had redhat kde and redhat gnome | Nov 17 08:25 |
schestowitz | The copyright assignment is the major sticking point | Nov 17 08:25 |
oiaohm | That were heavy patched to upstream. | Nov 17 08:25 |
oiaohm | And the upstreams hated redhat then as well. | Nov 17 08:25 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: gnome in 96-98?? | Nov 17 08:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cory Ondrejka, ex-CTO of Linden Labs, joins Facebook - http://bit.ly/9jLX5Y intriguing move #facebook #sl | Nov 17 08:27 | |
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oiaohm | At the start of gnome and kde schestowitz | Nov 17 08:27 |
oiaohm | redhat forked off there own versions to complete on the desktop. | Nov 17 08:27 |
oiaohm | Yes the same logic ubuntu is using today. | Nov 17 08:27 |
oiaohm | And by doing that Redhat got themselves hated. | Nov 17 08:27 |
oiaohm | In 2000 Redhat had worked out that working with upstreams made people friendly with them. | Nov 17 08:28 |
schestowitz | I see... | Nov 17 08:28 |
oiaohm | So yes Ubuntu is a history repeat. | Nov 17 08:28 |
oiaohm | And its making all the same mistakes. | Nov 17 08:29 |
oiaohm | Like pushing unstable parts on users too soon. | Nov 17 08:29 |
oiaohm | Even the copyright assignement bit redhat was doing in there early days as well. | Nov 17 08:30 |
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oiaohm | Until they learned like libreoffice has found. No copyright assigment more coders. | Nov 17 08:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bruce89 #OpenRespect is the thing that you'd imagine would cause the least amount of contravercy | Nov 17 08:30 | |
oiaohm | Basically Ubuntu own copyright assignment policy is cutting there own hands off. | Nov 17 08:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fontana yes, it doesn't really seem, er, consonant with his ideas... | Nov 17 08:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning identiverse from !identicurse :) | Nov 17 08:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One Hundred Naked Citizens: One Hundred Leaked Body Scans http://gizmodo.com/5690749/ //didn't they say the machine can't save images? #tsa | Nov 17 08:35 | |
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schestowitz | Hmmm... | Nov 17 08:35 |
schestowitz | Jono left, maybe didn't like where this was going | Nov 17 08:35 |
schestowitz | gtg | Nov 17 08:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Yes! My company now number 1 on !google for #barcelona #informatica #linux All your server am ours :) | Nov 17 08:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reflections On Respect - http://bit.ly/cTy6tG good post explaining background and current kerfuffle #opensource | Nov 17 08:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AFP Still Not Giving Up On Its Bizarre Claim That Twitpic Images Are Freely Licensed To Anyone - http://bit.ly/bRJUHW AFP's lack of clue | Nov 17 08:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jonobacon Reflections On Respect - some thoughts on OpenRespect, it's reaction, and some apologies: http://is.gd/hgN9P #openrespect ... | Nov 17 09:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Students rally near the office. Christ, many things *exactly* as when I was kid. Nothing changed then, nothing now. Yet we had better music | Nov 17 09:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nuking and rebuilding a Rembo server. In other news: The new #BUSC website is nearly done... | Nov 17 09:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @rahulsundaram: #Wayland package for !Fedora at http://ur1.ca/2d75l | Nov 17 09:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Welcome to My World, Mr Zuckerberg - http://bit.ly/9eaS5A from co-creator of MIME protocol, who is sceptical... #email #facebook | Nov 17 09:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica - #MeeGo conference: momentum intact despite lack of hardware http://goo.gl/Qa6FP | Nov 17 09:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !GNOME Shell Overview-Relayout Branch Gets Polished http://goo.gl/bkeCm | Nov 17 09:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] tglx and mingo: "We are pleased to announce a new tracing tool called 'trace'. This tool follows up on Linus's [...]" http://bit.ly/biizwD | Nov 17 09:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Feedly v4.x visual tutorial http://goo.gl/u3z1J | Nov 17 09:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon's reflections on respect http://goo.gl/xabS0 | Nov 17 09:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Europe Reimagines Orwell’s Memory Hole http://is.gd/hh1Nc !fsfe | Nov 17 09:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @glynmoody: Welcome to My World, Mr Zuckerberg - http://bit.ly/9eaS5A from co-creator of MIME protocol, who is sceptical... | Nov 17 09:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nonesuch Explorer Series on Spotify - http://bit.ly/bxpeZv double helping of gamelans - javanese and balinese - & more #gamelan #spotify | Nov 17 09:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Do 3D Printers Bypass Customs? - http://bit.ly/9OcuMp oh my word, yes: think about the implications... #3dprinters #fabbers #geography | Nov 17 09:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Lucas Rocha: Context Toolbars in The Board http://goo.gl/PfA59 More about the Board Project: http://goo.gl/O5u97 !gnome | Nov 17 09:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[loophole87/@loophole87] #Hotot client is awesome! | Nov 17 09:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[loophole87/@loophole87] @schestowitz Yeah, it's "now". Thanks. But now I am trying #Hotot alpha version. It's amazing! | Nov 17 09:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @loophole87 yeah, I heard it's great too | Nov 17 09:58 | |
MinceR | lol @ the notion of byfield being always fair | Nov 17 09:59 |
*schestowitz off to work | Nov 17 09:59 | |
*MinceR wonders when will jono join the ranks of the anti-rms trolls (where byfield already is) | Nov 17 09:59 | |
schestowitz | MinceR: byfield is the fountain of truith | Nov 17 09:59 |
schestowitz | "for journalists like me..." | Nov 17 09:59 |
schestowitz | That's how byfield writes | Nov 17 10:00 |
schestowitz | bbl | Nov 17 10:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] @carlopiana if you also list AC/DC there…yes you had better music :P | Nov 17 10:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Value of ₹500 (Rupees) for different people in India... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UkhxexiBbA | Nov 17 10:00 | |
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MinceR | lol | Nov 17 10:01 |
MinceR | also, i think the significance of ubuntu moving to wayland is that this might show that wayland is or is becoming a mature product already | Nov 17 10:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I've never understood why FITs object to surveillance. It's what they do - http://is.gd/hh5Qu | Nov 17 10:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reclaim our Scientific Scholarship (Beyond the PDF) - http://bit.ly/arW6Fr more pugnacious stuff; wonderful #science | Nov 17 10:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Artists NOT on iTunes http://is.gd/hh61c (#hint : moustache) | Nov 17 10:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @flameeyes you bet. And they still kick a/body else's ass, barring a very few. | Nov 17 10:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Feeling an urgency to listen some of my AC/DC records. Not advisable in a conference call, I am entering into one. | Nov 17 10:03 | |
MinceR | geekings | Nov 17 10:08 |
amarsh04 | hi MinceR | Nov 17 10:10 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I was going for the triple meaning: the food, Francis #Bacon, & @jonobacon. Back when I still ate meat, I did like bacon a lot. | Nov 17 10:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Should I upgrade to Fedora 14? http://ht.ly/1a177L | Nov 17 10:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @mairin if you haven't noticed that yet, they're kidding. hence the context. | Nov 17 10:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] I would swear this comic is about someone I know: http://is.gd/hhd0V | Nov 17 10:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @manovich: new york times: the next big idea in humanities is data: [...] http://bit.ly/b8v2IC | Nov 17 10:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Does anybody know how I might get a tag cloud working in Drupal 7? I'm kinda stuck on that one... | Nov 17 10:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @glynmoody: Do 3D Printers Bypass Customs? - http://bit.ly/9OcuMp oh my word, yes: think about the implications... | Nov 17 10:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @glynmoody: Don't worry, ACTA II will take care of that. ;-) | Nov 17 10:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Is it just me, or is #Identica's use of skimlinks.com kinda sleazy? (Thanks, ghostery.com for the heads-up.) | Nov 17 11:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo MeeGo conference: momentum intact despite lack of hardware - Ars Technica http://dlvr.it/8fyCm | Nov 17 11:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: My_Maemo Simple VU Meter for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=6846 | Nov 17 11:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo Nokia to promote MeeGo OS at European conference - infocera http://dlvr.it/8gVpQ | Nov 17 11:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] New aspect to stuxnet. http://ur1.ca/2d7wf #windows #security #aggression #Iran | Nov 17 11:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference: Presenters: Please upload your #MeeGoConf materials to your session page this week http://bit.ly/bbm4b8 | Nov 17 11:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference: Did you miss a talk? Not able to attend #MeeGoConf? Videos are being posted now & rest of week: http://bit.ly/bbm4b8 | Nov 17 11:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Notebooks for Attendees will be distributed in the presidents suite from 11:00 to 14:30 #meegoconf | Nov 17 11:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #OpenData that is not made available using #OpenStandards simply isn't #Opendata. | Nov 17 11:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm ah, this quote: "dances awesome rhythm !CC #by-sa http://ur1.ca/2d3fo " confused me. note the #by-sa you included. | Nov 17 11:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @robmyers yup | Nov 17 11:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Extreme weather forecasts: web users unite to power climate change project - http://bit.ly/atl5ZR great except for the CO2 they will produce | Nov 17 11:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thounds - http://bit.ly/9angcB "users can share music ideas by recording their inspiration". nice idea; not sure about name... | Nov 17 12:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Unity Daily builds !PPA has been created on Launchpad: http://goo.gl/af2mc no packages yet. !u | Nov 17 12:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Techcrunch confuses excuses with reasons - http://is.gd/hhrq4 | Nov 17 12:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] ♺ @jwildeboer: #OpenData that is not made available using #OpenStandards simply isn't #Opendata. | Nov 17 12:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Catastrophe beckons, but it's not as newsworthy as a poorly worded email - http://is.gd/hhsgb | Nov 17 12:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blogger faces terror charges for 'naming MPs' - http://bit.ly/cMSyoW "Don't tell 'em about Hansard or TheyWorkForYou"; quite | Nov 17 12:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Are the public of the USA beginning to tire of unconditional support for Israel? http://ur1.ca/2d89g #occupation !Palestine | Nov 17 12:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL..... Jimmy Fallon doing a Neil Young impression and singing "Whip My Hair" is pretty awesome.... :D | Nov 17 12:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ROFL Bruce dressed up as himself from the 70s.... LOL | Nov 17 12:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc2-git2 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 17 12:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] wow, there's an Open Data Euskadi - http://bit.ly/d1Htws how cool is that? (via @alorza @jdelacueva) #opendata #euskadi | Nov 17 12:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Palm Chief: By Birthright, Palm Should Have Owned the #Smartphone Market - http://bit.ly/awEm9f 'cos everyone knows it's a "right" #palm | Nov 17 12:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody Objects of questionable legality could spontaneously appear within a country's borders. been happening with recipes for ages. | Nov 17 12:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Healthcare for profit welcomes the demise of Britain's National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence. http://ur1.ca/2d8e5 #lobbyists | Nov 17 12:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] gThumb fixes a bug in 2.12.1 (and have I mentioned lately how much I love gThumb?) http://ht.ly/1a1dms | Nov 17 12:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Berlin blocks deal to save jungle paradise [de] - http://bit.ly/9j1PUC what is he thinking? #ecuador #germany | Nov 17 12:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hehe.... Jimmy has it right. "You gotta see this guy in concert!" !Bruce | Nov 17 12:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bruce's finally admits he can't distinguish between people shouting "Boooo!" or "Bruuuuuuuce!" LOL :D | Nov 17 12:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sad to hear Ben Gunn diagnosed with cancer, glad to hear he is recommended for open prison. http://ur1.ca/2d8gv | Nov 17 12:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Our 京P plate for the #Lancer http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbraad/5184403192/ | Nov 17 12:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] The photo on the vehicle registration license http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbraad/5183837507/ #Lancer | Nov 17 12:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "I allowed the band to vote on the songs on the album. Didn't listen to them of course, but I allowed them to vote." He's The Boss afterall. | Nov 17 12:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The Apache v ORCL discussion on #TCK shows again how good #openstandards and (F)RAND combine - not at all. http://is.gd/hhB82 | Nov 17 12:58 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Java crisis: what are Oracle, IBM, Google and Apache fighting over? | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 126.53 KB | Nov 17 12:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] @fabsh WeTab only runs the MeeGo core, not the UI layers. | Nov 17 13:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh for the next crapple session - http://is.gd/hhC3K - have fun :-) | Nov 17 13:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer That site is blocked here. Will look at it when I get home, thanks! :) | Nov 17 13:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Stevie on Jimmy Fallon too! Ace! :D | Nov 17 13:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @codepope Wow..... That makes sense..... *sarcasm* | Nov 17 13:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] @fabsh Thats the least of the WeTab's issues… (I had a play at Qt Dev Days in Munich), my fave is the fan which is also loud | Nov 17 13:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Hehe, many years afterwards, there are still traces of the November 17 virus I remember from my DOS years: http://is.gd/hhGPQ | Nov 17 13:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @codepope It has a FAN???? Oo | Nov 17 13:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ireland: the good stuff - http://bit.ly/d4ZvGE interesting use of Twitter-sourcing (via @Glinner) #twitter #crowdsourcing | Nov 17 13:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Hardware-Befreier" - welch schönes Wort im #SPIEGEL -http://is.gd/hhI1r | Nov 17 13:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.K. Government to Snub BBC, Google Over Web Access - http://bit.ly/d9zbG3 yeah, good idea, kill net neutrality (via @tom_watson) | Nov 17 13:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] That stuff from Jimmy Fallon was nice. One can tell the guy is a bona fide Bruce fan. Good taste, I like that... :) | Nov 17 13:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ancient road uncovered in Luxor - http://bit.ly/bPdsXD but how did they miss the 12 sphinxes before? buried so deep? #egyptology | Nov 17 13:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This is bad news » UK.gov ignores 'net neutrality' campaigners » http://ping.fm/BH0Ig | Nov 17 13:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jono Bacon's "Reflections On Respect" is actually a pretty good apology http://ping.fm/PE162 | Nov 17 13:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Me want! ♺ @dickturpin: @fabsh here's the perfect ranting chair for you http://ping.fm/h7CHE | Nov 17 13:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !RedHat warns of hole in #OpenSSL http://ping.fm/32XBv | Nov 17 13:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz but for material objects in general, it's new | Nov 17 13:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @slashdot: Internet Explorer 9 Caught Cheating In SunSpider http://bit.ly/a2uIWN | #oopsIE http://is.gd/hhLZ5 | Nov 17 13:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RAND: Not So Reasonable: Fair, Reasonable, Non-Discriminatory – surely that all has to be good stuff? RAND sou... http://bit.ly/9seR2K | Nov 17 13:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Three unspoken blockers that prevent professors from teaching open source community participation http://bit.ly/amzlo1 | Nov 17 14:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RAND: Not So Reasonable? - http://bit.ly/9WJO5K @webmink expresses his doubts #licensing #opensource #frand | Nov 17 14:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Save my Love" is a really nice song despite the cheesy title.... Can't wait to hear that live in concert with E Street backing. :) | Nov 17 14:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: RAND: Not So Reasonable? - http://bit.ly/9WJO5K @webmink expresses his doubts <yep, that's why we speak "open standards" !FSFE | Nov 17 14:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Whoaahh! I've got fifteen updates. That's the most I've had since moving to !Fedora | Nov 17 14:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @carlopiana Want to make any bets on how long it will be before I get a troll comment? | Nov 17 14:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] AMD Already Has Open-Source Fusion Drivers: There's good news for those of you wanting to quickly go out and pic... http://bit.ly/9WDq2q | Nov 17 14:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @webmink I was surprised you did not have one yet. I bet 15:18 UTC+1 | Nov 17 14:13 | |
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Ender2070 | does java work on arm ? | Nov 17 14:16 |
Ender2070 | and does c# | Nov 17 14:16 |
gnufreex | Ender2070: Depends on the OS. C# does not. | Nov 17 14:16 |
gnufreex | But Mono might work | Nov 17 14:16 |
gnufreex | On some. | Nov 17 14:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] the goodbye shirt http://www.threadless.com/submission/308022/the_goodbye_shirt | Nov 17 14:17 | |
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gnufreex | OpenJDK works on MeGoo, I think. | Nov 17 14:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vetting and Barring Scheme: the chaos continues - http://bit.ly/bI81NA what a fiasco (via @raycorrigan) #uk | Nov 17 14:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] The Man From Hollywood http://tylergaw.com/www/lab/themanfromhollywood/ | Nov 17 14:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... Long day at work. At least I can listen to music.... | Nov 17 14:27 | |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Lol... craze just keeps on coming from Florian Mueller: "Linux is all about proprietary extensions..." | Nov 17 14:29 |
Ender2070 | ql4ith5 | Nov 17 14:30 |
Ender2070 | alright | Nov 17 14:30 |
Ender2070 | LOL | Nov 17 14:30 |
Ender2070 | Google's Go programming language works on ARM | Nov 17 14:30 |
Ender2070 | perhaps Go is a better alternative | Nov 17 14:31 |
Ender2070 | over Java and C# | Nov 17 14:31 |
Ender2070 | for easier to write code | Nov 17 14:31 |
gnufreex | Go is Google's replacement for C | Nov 17 14:31 |
Ender2070 | not just C | Nov 17 14:31 |
gnufreex | I like Java better. | Nov 17 14:31 |
Ender2070 | it uses a lot of python ideas too | Nov 17 14:31 |
Ender2070 | and java | Nov 17 14:31 |
Ender2070 | yeah but with Java we have the oracle overlords | Nov 17 14:32 |
Ender2070 | if you dont do java their way they'll sue you #freedomourway | Nov 17 14:32 |
gnufreex | That is overblown. Java is GPL, only Apache is unhappy about that. | Nov 17 14:32 |
gnufreex | And Google. | Nov 17 14:32 |
Ender2070 | if I made my own Java that didn't pass oracles test i'd see their lawyers soon enough | Nov 17 14:33 |
MinceR | and IBM jumped ship | Nov 17 14:33 |
Ender2070 | IBM isnt dumb | Nov 17 14:33 |
Ender2070 | they have to follow oracle or get sued | Nov 17 14:33 |
MinceR | Ender2070: also, they don't let you have their tests as free software | Nov 17 14:33 |
gnufreex | You don't need any tests if your Java is GPL | Nov 17 14:33 |
Ender2070 | like Google | Nov 17 14:33 |
gnufreex | Google's "Java" is not GPL | Nov 17 14:33 |
Ender2070 | no | Nov 17 14:33 |
Ender2070 | you dont need any tests if its openjdk | Nov 17 14:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Background on the Icelandic Constitutional Assembly - http://bit.ly/9Ycfal go, @smarimc , go (via @mbauwens) #iceland | Nov 17 14:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, time to tie this crap up.... When I get home I have a podcast to edit.... | Nov 17 14:33 | |
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Ender2070 | only openjdk is free software | Nov 17 14:33 |
Ender2070 | and only if you play by oracles rules | Nov 17 14:34 |
Ender2070 | you cant put it on mobile | Nov 17 14:34 |
gnufreex | So, just take some OpenJDK code (class library for example) and you are fine. | Nov 17 14:34 |
gnufreex | You can put OpenJDK on mobile as long as you obey GPL. | Nov 17 14:34 |
gnufreex | No Oracle | Nov 17 14:34 |
gnufreex | Or anything. | Nov 17 14:34 |
Ender2070 | cant dude | Nov 17 14:34 |
gnufreex | Whoever said otherwise is lying. | Nov 17 14:34 |
Ender2070 | oracle doesnt want it on mobile and the tck won't pass it | Nov 17 14:35 |
gnufreex | Florian Mueller is lying. | Nov 17 14:35 |
gnufreex | He said that. | Nov 17 14:35 |
Ender2070 | javafx | Nov 17 14:35 |
Ender2070 | thats for mobile | Nov 17 14:35 |
gnufreex | JavaFX is dead | Nov 17 14:35 |
gnufreex | Nokia already shipps OpenJDK on N900 | Nov 17 14:35 |
Ender2070 | to us it is yes | Nov 17 14:35 |
Ender2070 | who was saying it wouldnt legally work on mobile? | Nov 17 14:36 |
gnufreex | Mobile restriction you talk about apply only on non-OpenJDK | Nov 17 14:36 |
gnufreex | Like Dalvik | Nov 17 14:36 |
Ender2070 | but you see right there | Nov 17 14:36 |
Ender2070 | "everything but openjdk" | Nov 17 14:36 |
Ender2070 | only openjdk gets the exception | Nov 17 14:36 |
gnufreex | Not everything. | Nov 17 14:36 |
gnufreex | Only things that don't derive from OpenJDK. | Nov 17 14:37 |
Ender2070 | it seems that if your java isn't sourced by oracle, you'll get sued | Nov 17 14:37 |
Ender2070 | if it didnt come from openjdk you'll get sued, and if it did, oracle will call copyright infringement when they sue ;) | Nov 17 14:37 |
gnufreex | Do you have any idea how hard is to make Java by yourself? Why not use OpenJDK as base? | Nov 17 14:37 |
Ender2070 | because it sucks? | Nov 17 14:38 |
oiaohm | Not exactly true Ender2070 | Nov 17 14:38 |
oiaohm | There is gnu classpath | Nov 17 14:38 |
Ender2070 | gnu classpath != openjdk | Nov 17 14:38 |
gnufreex | That is giberish ender2070 | Nov 17 14:38 |
oiaohm | openjdk and gnu classpath have the same licences Ender2070 | Nov 17 14:39 |
Ender2070 | but look at Go | Nov 17 14:39 |
Ender2070 | BSD | Nov 17 14:39 |
gnufreex | Oracle can't sue you for copyrights | Nov 17 14:39 |
gnufreex | If you obey GPL | Nov 17 14:39 |
gnufreex | It is easy. | Nov 17 14:39 |
Ender2070 | they're suing google | Nov 17 14:39 |
oiaohm | Also gnu classpath has been using the TCK | Nov 17 14:39 |
gnufreex | GOOGLE DOESN | Nov 17 14:39 |
Ender2070 | they even made up a bunch of lies against google | Nov 17 14:39 |
gnufreex | GOOGLE DOESNT USE OPEN JDK | Nov 17 14:39 |
oiaohm | Ender2070: Google did admit a mistake. | Nov 17 14:39 |
Ender2070 | they shouldn't have to | Nov 17 14:39 |
gnufreex | It doesn't obey GPL | Nov 17 14:39 |
oiaohm | javadoc to extract docs from sun libs. | Nov 17 14:40 |
gnufreex | They shouldn | Nov 17 14:40 |
Ender2070 | if java was really an open standard it wouldn't have so much risk around it when you deviate from oracle | Nov 17 14:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] STEM education: Live chat at noon with Al Gore, Dean Kamen, Sally Ride, and the Mythbusters http://ow.ly/3bdYp | Nov 17 14:40 | |
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Ender2070 | imo, google should tell oracle to fuck off and get dalvik to use Go syntax instead | Nov 17 14:41 |
oiaohm | Really sticking to GPL with classpath allowance Oracle will allow you to go long way from spec. | Nov 17 14:41 |
gnufreex | Google coopted Java to created propriatary Android. | Nov 17 14:41 |
oiaohm | Redhat has made custom versions of java before Google even attempted it Ender2070 | Nov 17 14:41 |
gnufreex | I am with Google on all other Android lawsuits, but I am not suporting Google at destroying Java. | Nov 17 14:41 |
Ender2070 | ahhh you're just being google haters | Nov 17 14:41 |
oiaohm | No Ender2070 | Nov 17 14:41 |
Ender2070 | google isnt destroying java | Nov 17 14:42 |
Ender2070 | they dont even say dalvik is java | Nov 17 14:42 |
oiaohm | Google failed todo there homework. | Nov 17 14:42 |
Ender2070 | we'll see | Nov 17 14:42 |
oiaohm | There as been a ongoing dispute between apache and sun now orcale | Nov 17 14:42 |
Ender2070 | of course | Nov 17 14:42 |
oiaohm | Sun never wanted Java under Apache licence. | Nov 17 14:42 |
Ender2070 | but imo, java is tainted with lawsuits | Nov 17 14:42 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: Just started listening to the techbytes pilot | Nov 17 14:42 |
oiaohm | So is .net Ender2070 | Nov 17 14:43 |
Ender2070 | which is why i started this conversation with a suggestion to use Google Go | Nov 17 14:43 |
Ender2070 | instead of Java and C# | Nov 17 14:43 |
gnufreex | Ender2070: Will you be fine with Microsoft taking Linux and puting it under BSD license? | Nov 17 14:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Listening to Einstein on the Beach on vinyl | Nov 17 14:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] What do you think about the lack of tags or categories in this blog? http://ht.ly/1a1j6R | Nov 17 14:43 | |
sebsebseb | hmm so that is what Tim sounds like | Nov 17 14:43 |
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oiaohm | Android also has legal problems. Ender2070 | Nov 17 14:43 |
sebsebseb | and thats you schestowitz | Nov 17 14:44 |
Ender2070 | gnufreex Google isn't taking Oracle code | Nov 17 14:44 |
gnufreex | Oracle beggs to differ | Nov 17 14:44 |
Ender2070 | well ill take googles word over oracles | Nov 17 14:44 |
gnufreex | Look at evidence | Nov 17 14:44 |
Ender2070 | oracle is in the same league as apple in the lies department | Nov 17 14:44 |
gnufreex | I don't take anyone's word | Nov 17 14:44 |
Ender2070 | SCO had some evidence too, didnt mean it was valid | Nov 17 14:44 |
Ender2070 | im sure google will be copying oracles whitespace | Nov 17 14:45 |
gnufreex | SCO had no evidence | Nov 17 14:45 |
gnufreex | Only crack | Nov 17 14:45 |
gnufreex | And pipe | Nov 17 14:45 |
Ender2070 | SCO had lines of code they were showing people, only it turned out to be lies | Nov 17 14:45 |
Ender2070 | they made people sign an NDA to see it | Nov 17 14:45 |
oiaohm | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html Ender2070 its a major one. Lot of makers of android phones fail to include a directions to the source code of the Linux kernel they are using. | Nov 17 14:46 |
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Ender2070 | if googles lines of code are the same its because there was no other way of doing the same thing | Nov 17 14:46 |
oiaohm | Basically android is legally screwed up from the base up. | Nov 17 14:46 |
oiaohm | Forget the java issue. | Nov 17 14:46 |
Ender2070 | according to you | Nov 17 14:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Should #CiviCRM support distributed events (house parties, global days like 350.org?) R u willing to help make-this-happen? #npdev #npptech | Nov 17 14:47 | |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm is trolling again? | Nov 17 14:47 |
Ender2070 | yes | Nov 17 14:47 |
oiaohm | That is not trolling. | Nov 17 14:47 |
gnufreex | No, sorry, code was decompiled. Google thought it can go around GPL by decompiling. | Nov 17 14:47 |
Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: ... open source... decompiled... | Nov 17 14:47 |
Ender2070 | yeah cause google goes around reverse engineering peoples software | Nov 17 14:47 |
*Diablo-D3 's head explodes | Nov 17 14:47 | |
MinceR | lol | Nov 17 14:47 |
MinceR | gnufreex: url? | Nov 17 14:47 |
Diablo-D3 | 99.9% of java in the sense of what java is can only be done one way | Nov 17 14:48 |
MinceR | i was told dalvik was based on harmony, not a decompiled openjdk | Nov 17 14:48 |
Diablo-D3 | the fact dalvik even exists means that .1% is pretty fucking huge | Nov 17 14:48 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: it is | Nov 17 14:48 |
oiaohm | Funny thing is the reason google says lgpl cannot be include is android the same clauses cover the kernel. | Nov 17 14:48 |
Ender2070 | dalvik did come from harmony for one | Nov 17 14:48 |
gnufreex | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/12/google_accuses_oracle_of_code_doctoring_in_android_case/ | Nov 17 14:48 |
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Diablo-D3 | the base class libraries come from harmony | Nov 17 14:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody a new wrinkle perhaps but in my teens (a long time ago) a friend an I built a boat from plans... no transporter here yet. | Nov 17 14:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Pirate Bay, One Year After The Tracker Shut Down - http://bit.ly/cWIT1v let's play Whack-a-Tracker #torrents #piracy | Nov 17 14:48 | |
Diablo-D3 | the dalvik jvm itself didnt | Nov 17 14:48 |
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Diablo-D3 | the dalvik jvm works 120% differently | Nov 17 14:48 |
Ender2070 | the stuff claimed to be copied can only be done one way | Nov 17 14:48 |
MinceR | ic | Nov 17 14:48 |
Diablo-D3 | they wrote a register vm | Nov 17 14:49 |
Diablo-D3 | which should be impossible for java | Nov 17 14:49 |
Ender2070 | oracle is smoking crack | Nov 17 14:49 |
Diablo-D3 | which, also, completely fucks over oracle's patent claims | Nov 17 14:49 |
Diablo-D3 | since almost all of them arent java related, but vm related | Nov 17 14:49 |
Diablo-D3 | (ie, they could sue perl or python or whoever) | Nov 17 14:49 |
Ender2070 | and .NET | Nov 17 14:50 |
oiaohm | Those patents have been used to sue MS over .net | Nov 17 14:50 |
oiaohm | And MS pays. | Nov 17 14:50 |
Diablo-D3 | well | Nov 17 14:50 |
Diablo-D3 | .net is a special case | Nov 17 14:50 |
Diablo-D3 | c# is fucking java | Nov 17 14:50 |
Diablo-D3 | its java | Nov 17 14:50 |
Diablo-D3 | its not a real language | Nov 17 14:50 |
Diablo-D3 | its java | Nov 17 14:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz that hacker/maker urge | Nov 17 14:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Should #CiviCRM support distributed events? (house parties, 10/10/10 events from 350.org?) R u willing to make-it-happen? #nptech #npdev | Nov 17 14:50 | |
Diablo-D3 | its like java five and a half | Nov 17 14:50 |
Ender2070 | J++ | Nov 17 14:50 |
Diablo-D3 | its not quite 5, its not quite 6, it doesnt have features 5 does, and it has features that just got into 7 | Nov 17 14:50 |
Diablo-D3 | and all the classes are named wrong | Nov 17 14:50 |
MinceR | c# is the bastard child of java and visual basic | Nov 17 14:51 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: no | Nov 17 14:51 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: thats vb.net | Nov 17 14:51 |
MinceR | the class library is very vb-ish, imo | Nov 17 14:51 |
Diablo-D3 | no | Nov 17 14:51 |
Diablo-D3 | its very win32ish | Nov 17 14:51 |
MinceR | especially the capitalized methods and fields | Nov 17 14:51 |
gnufreex | Google could use OpenJDK class library, and make Dalvik GPL... and Oracle lawsuit goes puff. | Nov 17 14:51 |
Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: nope | Nov 17 14:51 |
Diablo-D3 | because dalvik was still written from scratch | Nov 17 14:51 |
gnufreex | And OpenJDK class library is more compliant. | Nov 17 14:51 |
Diablo-D3 | we dont know if its more complaint | Nov 17 14:52 |
Diablo-D3 | harmony has never publically ran the jdk compliance test | Nov 17 14:52 |
gnufreex | It is real thing. | Nov 17 14:52 |
gnufreex | It must be more compliant | Nov 17 14:52 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 14:52 |
Ender2070 | again | Nov 17 14:52 |
Diablo-D3 | its obviously very compliant | Nov 17 14:52 |
Diablo-D3 | it runs normal shit | Nov 17 14:52 |
Ender2070 | Oracle defines the terms of compliance | Nov 17 14:52 |
Diablo-D3 | I can run eclipse on harmony, for example | Nov 17 14:53 |
Diablo-D3 | and eclipse is ffffffff java | Nov 17 14:53 |
Diablo-D3 | its not bad java, but holy fucking shit, a full osgi container? REALLY? | Nov 17 14:53 |
MinceR | that's 32 ones! | Nov 17 14:53 |
gnufreex | Compliance doesn't matter if it is derivative of OpenJDK. I just said "more compliant" as a bonus. | Nov 17 14:53 |
oiaohm | eclipse runs on classpath as well that has holes that you could drive a freight train threw. | Nov 17 14:53 |
MinceR | (2^32)-1 | Nov 17 14:53 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: gcj is not a java impl | Nov 17 14:54 |
Diablo-D3 | I dont care what gcc claims | Nov 17 14:54 |
Diablo-D3 | no vm, no java | Nov 17 14:54 |
gnufreex | GCJ is ahead of time compiler | Nov 17 14:54 |
oiaohm | classpath does not have to be used with gcj | Nov 17 14:54 |
gnufreex | It doesn't use JVM | Nov 17 14:54 |
Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: exactlyu | Nov 17 14:54 |
oiaohm | There is the old ibm jvm engine that will operate classpath. | Nov 17 14:54 |
oiaohm | Yes I am talking old suspect and nasty and eclipse runs. | Nov 17 14:54 |
Diablo-D3 | how do you expect to introspect classes, or on the fly write method signatures and call them, or runtime load classes, etc | Nov 17 14:55 |
Diablo-D3 | or garbage collect | Nov 17 14:55 |
Diablo-D3 | or runtime optimize | Nov 17 14:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Idiot by design: can file pleadings via Internet AP but not grant reading access to identified collagues, need paper application #fail | Nov 17 14:57 | |
MinceR | with a dynamic object system | Nov 17 14:57 |
MinceR | afaik that doesn't need a VM | Nov 17 14:57 |
MinceR | garbage collection doesn't even need that, you can do it in C++ | Nov 17 14:57 |
MinceR | runtime optimization does need a VM, though | Nov 17 14:57 |
Ender2070 | http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/browse_thread/thread/1335ed99ad981787/8b3548a9377513f6?lnk=raot#8b3548a9377513f6 | Nov 17 14:57 |
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MinceR | but it's not so essential :> | Nov 17 14:57 |
oiaohm | http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/stories.html Really just because I say classpath I never said I was talking about using gcj. Diablo-D3 | Nov 17 14:58 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Konqueror in !KDE 4.5: Huge Step Forward http://is.gd/hhYcw | Nov 17 14:58 | |
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gnufreex | Classpath is library, GCJ is compiler. It can be used separately. | Nov 17 14:59 |
gnufreex | I think GCJ might be Google's path out of this mess. | Nov 17 15:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Happy Smoke Someone Out Day, !Subgenius !! | Nov 17 15:00 | |
MinceR | didn't the android devs whine about the difficulty of supporting properly compiled code on their platform? | Nov 17 15:00 |
oiaohm | No google wants to avoid no matter what using GPL stuff gnufreex | Nov 17 15:01 |
MinceR | iirc there were problems even with dynamic linking | Nov 17 15:01 |
oiaohm | Because they say it placing to much burnd on device makers. | Nov 17 15:01 |
MinceR | time for google to change their position, then | Nov 17 15:01 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: Yeah, even if they all get sued and extorted. | Nov 17 15:01 |
gnufreex | That is very smart of Google | Nov 17 15:01 |
gnufreex | They will never learn. | Nov 17 15:01 |
gnufreex | Microsoft will extort money until device makers give up on Android | Nov 17 15:02 |
gnufreex | GPL forbids that. | Nov 17 15:02 |
gnufreex | So they are shoting their foot | Nov 17 15:02 |
Ender2070 | same with oraclesoft | Nov 17 15:02 |
MinceR | i wonder when will they discover MeeGo | Nov 17 15:02 |
MinceR | if ever | Nov 17 15:02 |
Ender2070 | whos only doing this now to help Apple | Nov 17 15:02 |
gnufreex | Oracle is at least direct. Goes at google | Nov 17 15:02 |
gnufreex | But Apple is like Microsoft. | Nov 17 15:03 |
oiaohm | http://jikesrvm.org/ The ibm experment. | Nov 17 15:03 |
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MinceR | and SCOracle is like SCO | Nov 17 15:03 |
oiaohm | Yes java implemented fully in java | Nov 17 15:03 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 15:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #AMD Fusion has ‘open-source drivers ready’ http://goo.gl/aYvqp | Nov 17 15:03 | |
MinceR | yo dawg, i heard you like java VMs... | Nov 17 15:03 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "Sorry, [Google] Calendar is temporarily unavailable. Please try again in a few minutes." | Nov 17 15:05 | |
Ender2070 | lol AMD promoting face tracking/tagging as a feature | Nov 17 15:06 |
Ender2070 | for authorities perhaps | Nov 17 15:06 |
MinceR | or to choose where to autofocus in cameras | Nov 17 15:06 |
gnufreex | If Android is GPLv3 then Apple and Microsoft would have to sue unti they destroy it, and face regulators for destroying competitive technology. This way, they can extort it and make money off of it. | Nov 17 15:06 |
MinceR | afaik that's what it was for | Nov 17 15:06 |
MinceR | or maybe triggering exposition with smiles | Nov 17 15:06 |
MinceR | (which is kind of silly) | Nov 17 15:06 |
gnufreex | And then device makers give up | Nov 17 15:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh @gomerx Any of you remember GWAR? Now THAT was cheesy :) (the fancy dres anyway). | Nov 17 15:07 | |
gnufreex | And Android dies anyways. | Nov 17 15:07 |
Ender2070 | no it says its to tag photos with the identity of the user | Nov 17 15:07 |
MinceR | oh. | Nov 17 15:07 |
MinceR | sounds like new stuff | Nov 17 15:07 |
Ender2070 | one of the examples is searching through a db of people for yourself | Nov 17 15:07 |
Ender2070 | supercomputers used to do that | Nov 17 15:07 |
MinceR | a benign use would be not having to tag photos for people on them manually | Nov 17 15:07 |
MinceR | in personal photo collections | Nov 17 15:08 |
Ender2070 | yes i know | Nov 17 15:08 |
Ender2070 | thats the public reason | Nov 17 15:08 |
Ender2070 | theres always a hidden reason for doing something like this | Nov 17 15:08 |
Ender2070 | the convenience reason, and the totalitarian reason | Nov 17 15:08 |
MinceR | :> | Nov 17 15:10 |
Ender2070 | people working at the fusion centers are probably salivating | Nov 17 15:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gentle Background and Introduction to MRI Tagging http://is.gd/hi0Gu quick notes on algos we invent these days | Nov 17 15:10 | |
oiaohm | Speed could be fast enough to connect to building secuirty cams. | Nov 17 15:10 |
MinceR | often the convenience reason is obviously contrived, though | Nov 17 15:10 |
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Ender2070 | it is contrived | Nov 17 15:10 |
Ender2070 | why do people need to buy a whole new cpu just to tag their facebook friends faster | Nov 17 15:11 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 15:11 |
MinceR | it does seem contrived, unless its targeted at mobile devices | Nov 17 15:11 |
MinceR | but it seem it isn't | Nov 17 15:11 |
MinceR | s/its/it's/ | Nov 17 15:11 |
gnufreex | Ender2070: We were talking about Go before bickering about Java :-) | Nov 17 15:11 |
Ender2070 | AMD Fusion was supposed to be for mobile | Nov 17 15:11 |
MinceR | s/seem/&s/ | Nov 17 15:11 |
gnufreex | No, Go have nothing with Python | Nov 17 15:12 |
gnufreex | It is native language, no VM or interpreter. | Nov 17 15:12 |
Ender2070 | now your trolling me over GO? | Nov 17 15:12 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 15:12 |
oiaohm | Fusion is not only mobile targeted. | Nov 17 15:12 |
Ender2070 | I said they used ideas from python and java too | Nov 17 15:12 |
Ender2070 | easy coding, the power of C | Nov 17 15:13 |
MinceR | the lack of OOP from C | Nov 17 15:13 |
Ender2070 | C already had a lack of OOP | Nov 17 15:13 |
MinceR | that's why Go got it from there. | Nov 17 15:13 |
gnufreex | Well... Wikipedia says influenced by C, Limbo, Modula, Newsqeak, Oberon and Pascal | Nov 17 15:14 |
Ender2070 | Wikipedia is wrong then because R Cox mentioned python | Nov 17 15:14 |
gnufreex | Maybe... | Nov 17 15:14 |
Ender2070 | I'll take the inventors word for it | Nov 17 15:15 |
Ender2070 | wikipedia suffers broken telephone sometimes | Nov 17 15:15 |
gnufreex | Yeah, that for sure. | Nov 17 15:15 |
Ender2070 | the problem with go is that it hasnt hit a 1.0 yet | Nov 17 15:16 |
gnufreex | Yep | Nov 17 15:16 |
MinceR | and that it aims to do too little | Nov 17 15:16 |
oiaohm | Ender2070: AMD Fusion targeted at 1U server cases needing todo some opencl. | Nov 17 15:16 |
oiaohm | as well. | Nov 17 15:16 |
Ender2070 | its C with garbage collection and concurrency | Nov 17 15:16 |
gnufreex | I think Go aims excatly what it shouldc. | Nov 17 15:16 |
gnufreex | C++ is convoluted, It can never replace C | Nov 17 15:17 |
gnufreex | Go can | Nov 17 15:17 |
Ender2070 | someone is even building an OS with Go | Nov 17 15:17 |
gnufreex | But I maybe nothing can replace C. | Nov 17 15:17 |
gnufreex | C is great. | Nov 17 15:17 |
MinceR | C++ can replace C, since it can compile C code with a few modifications | Nov 17 15:17 |
Ender2070 | the same people wanted to maintain the Go fedora packages | Nov 17 15:17 |
Ender2070 | which is how I found out | Nov 17 15:17 |
cubezzz | yeah I think I'll stick with C | Nov 17 15:17 |
Ender2070 | a Go based OS would be interesting | Nov 17 15:17 |
MinceR | i'll stick with C++ and Python for the most part | Nov 17 15:18 |
gnufreex | MinceR: I was talking about funcionality, when you convert C to C++ project will hit a roadblock. | Nov 17 15:18 |
gnufreex | C++ is to easy to screw up. | Nov 17 15:18 |
oiaohm | MinceR: C++ still gets messy if you are using the most recent C standard. | Nov 17 15:18 |
Ender2070 | What if Go starts to catch on like wildfire | Nov 17 15:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dustin Kirkland: !Byobu positive press (including one from #Fedora) http://goo.gl/CJ4P4 | Nov 17 15:18 | |
MinceR | C++ has all the functionality C has, and more. | Nov 17 15:18 |
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Ender2070 | its funny some people even disable the garbage collection in Go | Nov 17 15:19 |
gnufreex | MinceR: That is the problem. | Nov 17 15:19 |
Ender2070 | to plug in their own or just not use one | Nov 17 15:19 |
gnufreex | It is bloated. | Nov 17 15:19 |
MinceR | i don't see any problem with it | Nov 17 15:19 |
Ender2070 | Go is pretty modular | Nov 17 15:19 |
MinceR | no, it isn't bloated, the programmer's knowledge of it is insufficient. | Nov 17 15:19 |
Ender2070 | the docs are open too | Nov 17 15:19 |
Ender2070 | GCC-Go is on its way | Nov 17 15:19 |
gnufreex | Inelegant, complicated... that is C++ | Nov 17 15:20 |
MinceR | the "C++ is bloated" thinking leads to disasters like java 4 and earlier and c# | Nov 17 15:20 |
gnufreex | Read Linus Torvalds rants on C++ | Nov 17 15:20 |
MinceR | i don't care about linus' rants on c++ | Nov 17 15:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram Fox is fair and balanced http://i.imgur.com/779Vw.jpg (via @reddit) | Nov 17 15:20 | |
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Ender2070 | nothing wrong with C++ though | Nov 17 15:20 |
Ender2070 | I like it still | Nov 17 15:20 |
Ender2070 | im just thinking Go has potential and im keeping my eye on it. | Nov 17 15:20 |
Ender2070 | GCC moved to C++ didn't it? | Nov 17 15:20 |
oiaohm | Internally GCC is still C | Nov 17 15:21 |
gnufreex | Ender2070: Hell no | Nov 17 15:21 |
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gnufreex | They only alowed to write plugins in C++ | Nov 17 15:21 |
oiaohm | Yet plugins can be done in C just as simply. | Nov 17 15:21 |
Ender2070 | I thought a migration was underway | Nov 17 15:21 |
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gnufreex | So LLVM fans can have their draggon eggs. | Nov 17 15:21 |
oiaohm | Thinking it a C interface explosed. | Nov 17 15:21 |
oiaohm | Ender2070: The core engine of gcc has more support for C++ structs yes. But the engine is still C | Nov 17 15:23 |
Ender2070 | interesting | Nov 17 15:23 |
oiaohm | Heck the core engine now support directly brewing C++ C Java and other languages at once. | Nov 17 15:23 |
oiaohm | Since after the frount end of a language is finished to the middle processing everything is basically the same. | Nov 17 15:24 |
gnufreex | I would like to see Ada used more. It is exact opposite of C++ | Nov 17 15:24 |
MinceR | yes, with pascalisms | Nov 17 15:25 |
MinceR | ew | Nov 17 15:25 |
gnufreex | It is also compicated, but you can't write wrong code in Ada. | Nov 17 15:25 |
cubezzz | apl ftw :) | Nov 17 15:25 |
MinceR | i'm glad i'm rid of pascal | Nov 17 15:25 |
MinceR | gnufreex: i don't think so | Nov 17 15:25 |
MinceR | i can write wrong code anywhere. | Nov 17 15:26 |
gnufreex | Ada is not so much like Pascal. | Nov 17 15:26 |
MinceR | it's too much like pascal | Nov 17 15:26 |
gnufreex | MinceR: Ada is designed for making mision critical stuff. | Nov 17 15:26 |
gnufreex | It is harder to writte bad code | Nov 17 15:26 |
cubezzz | hmmm | Nov 17 15:26 |
oiaohm | Ada is one of the oldest languages still in use. | Nov 17 15:27 |
Ender2070 | mission critical stuff is written in every language | Nov 17 15:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram This shirt really is a good one! http://ur1.ca/2d2qc #donttouchmyjunk // context: http://is.gd/hbSym | Nov 17 15:27 | |
Ender2070 | it depends on the goal | Nov 17 15:27 |
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cubezzz | ada isn't that old | Nov 17 15:27 |
gnufreex | It is younger than C, I think | Nov 17 15:27 |
cubezzz | yes | Nov 17 15:27 |
gnufreex | It is standardzed on GNAT in 1995 | Nov 17 15:27 |
MinceR | gnufreex: it still has all the bondage-and-discipline approach, afaik | Nov 17 15:27 |
Ender2070 | porno scanners | Nov 17 15:27 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 15:27 |
cubezzz | I see mostly C and C++ really | Nov 17 15:28 |
Ender2070 | yet another reason im never flying | Nov 17 15:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody HBase is proprietary | Nov 17 15:28 | |
oiaohm | Age of ada is not 100 percent exactly known. | Nov 17 15:29 |
cubezzz | I think most of the LGP stuff was C++ | Nov 17 15:29 |
oiaohm | We know it become fully formal in 1983 | Nov 17 15:29 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: wut? | Nov 17 15:29 |
gnufreex | Ada was mandated by US DoD | Nov 17 15:30 |
gnufreex | It has to be known | Nov 17 15:30 |
gnufreex | It was used in friken tanks | Nov 17 15:30 |
oiaohm | But its one out of a batch of 450 langs USA mil developed from 1975 | Nov 17 15:30 |
MinceR | and yet it's still based on pascal | Nov 17 15:30 |
oiaohm | Ie ada was developed somewhere between 1975 and 1983 | Nov 17 15:30 |
cubezzz | most old C code without graphics will still work... e.g. stuff from the early 1990s | Nov 17 15:30 |
gnufreex | No, mandate was in 1990s | Nov 17 15:30 |
MinceR | which was not designed for practical use | Nov 17 15:30 |
cubezzz | C with some flex | Nov 17 15:30 |
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cubezzz | once you start getting into gui's and fonts and stuff all bets are off | Nov 17 15:31 |
cubezzz | sometimes I get the feeling oiaohm is IRCing from work :) | Nov 17 15:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @schestowitz don't think so: http://bit.ly/cvanJH | Nov 17 15:32 | |
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Ender2070 | I start work next monday | Nov 17 15:32 |
schestowitz | "There is more -- much more -- to Scribus then I have indicated here." --Byfield /s/then/than/ | Nov 17 15:32 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: gratz | Nov 17 15:32 |
Ender2070 | ty | Nov 17 15:32 |
MinceR | i care about byfield much less than i have indicated here | Nov 17 15:33 |
Ender2070 | my new job, my salary is higher than the boss of my old job | Nov 17 15:33 |
Ender2070 | :D | Nov 17 15:33 |
schestowitz | he is a "journalist" | Nov 17 15:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] US Scientists Significantly More Likely to Publish Fake Research, Study Finds http://is.gd/hi4Uh | Nov 17 15:33 | |
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schestowitz | So his opinions weight much more than yours | Nov 17 15:33 |
schestowitz | *weigh | Nov 17 15:34 |
cubezzz | not really | Nov 17 15:34 |
schestowitz | I am being sarcastic | Nov 17 15:34 |
cubezzz | ah :) | Nov 17 15:34 |
Ender2070 | i could tell ;) | Nov 17 15:34 |
Ender2070 | my new job is going to be giving me a blackberry | Nov 17 15:35 |
cubezzz | anyway opinions are just that... opinions | Nov 17 15:36 |
cubezzz | so whoever has the biggest megaphone "wins" | Nov 17 15:36 |
Ender2070 | anyone know some decent blackberry apps | Nov 17 15:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody aha! Thanks | Nov 17 15:37 | |
cubezzz | mainstream news is very bad for tech news | Nov 17 15:37 |
cubezzz | on local news they will actually push Mac | Nov 17 15:37 |
Ender2070 | my school used to push mac and windows | Nov 17 15:38 |
Ender2070 | my teacher was an ms fanboy, and an iphone fanboy | Nov 17 15:38 |
Ender2070 | so anyway, having this new job is going to be a benefit to my site | Nov 17 15:39 |
Ender2070 | ill have money to put into a few side projects | Nov 17 15:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Installing KDE. Because I need Krita. I'm onto the "bargaining" stage... | Nov 17 15:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody it has some Microsoft connections now, just like #fb http://is.gd/hi6sE #powerset | Nov 17 15:40 | |
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Ender2070 | at the same time, less time | Nov 17 15:40 |
Ender2070 | we'll see how it goes | Nov 17 15:40 |
Ender2070 | im still doing a podcast soon though | Nov 17 15:40 |
Ender2070 | I need to draw more users to my site | Nov 17 15:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Internet Society Reconfirms Support for W3C Open Web Platform with Donation http://ow.ly/1a1nLs | Nov 17 15:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @schestowitz yes, but as you know, the MS tentacles are everywhere these days; main thing is is free software | Nov 17 15:42 | |
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Ender2070 | I got noise cancelation to work | Nov 17 15:42 |
Ender2070 | with audacity | Nov 17 15:42 |
Ender2070 | youtube has videos on i t | Nov 17 15:43 |
Ender2070 | it was easy | Nov 17 15:43 |
schestowitz | Debian Women IRC Training Sessions begins http://is.gd/hi5Qh | Nov 17 15:43 |
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Ender2070 | cubezzz i listened to your podcast | Nov 17 15:43 |
Ender2070 | i have recommendations for you | Nov 17 15:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @schestowitz I noticed that you RT'd @jonobacon 's plane message, I find it great, and I nearly RT'd it before you. #openrespect | Nov 17 15:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Aha, finally booked tickets of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part1 for friday evening :) Bah, #chromium fails to print the ticket :P | Nov 17 15:43 | |
Ender2070 | rss, podcastalley and podcast pickle | Nov 17 15:43 |
schestowitz | cubezzz's cast is brilliant | Nov 17 15:44 |
schestowitz | Packed with info | Nov 17 15:44 |
Ender2070 | if you want to save space, go mono, and go 22 Khz | Nov 17 15:44 |
gnufreex | What? Mono? | Nov 17 15:44 |
Ender2070 | mono sound | Nov 17 15:44 |
gnufreex | Aha | Nov 17 15:44 |
Ender2070 | not mono language | Nov 17 15:44 |
gnufreex | Go on | Nov 17 15:44 |
gnufreex | Sorry. | Nov 17 15:44 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 15:44 |
cubezzz | hmmm? oh thanks very much :) | Nov 17 15:44 |
cubezzz | I wasn't sure anyone was listening | Nov 17 15:45 |
Ender2070 | your mic is awesome quality | Nov 17 15:45 |
Ender2070 | I heard the guy on podcastanswerman talk about that one | Nov 17 15:45 |
gnufreex | I didn't know that de Icaza is making sounds now :-) | Nov 17 15:45 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 15:46 |
*schestowitz links to pwnage and maxhost eps when they come out | Nov 17 15:46 | |
Ender2070 | if a bunch of us do podcasts, it might be worth making a dedicated foss podcast site | Nov 17 15:46 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: he does | Nov 17 15:46 |
schestowitz | But after eating stuf | Nov 17 15:46 |
gnufreex | lol | Nov 17 15:47 |
Ender2070 | he only makes monkey noises too | Nov 17 15:47 |
schestowitz | Animals do too | Nov 17 15:47 |
Ender2070 | actually | Nov 17 15:47 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiY6OguolJo | Nov 17 15:48 |
Ender2070 | i might plan out my next few episodes this week while I have time | Nov 17 15:48 |
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Ender2070 | schestowitz - did you figure out noise removal? i did | Nov 17 15:48 |
gnufreex | lol | Nov 17 15:48 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: yeah | Nov 17 15:48 |
gnufreex | That video is funny | Nov 17 15:48 |
schestowitz | http://www.linkedlistcorruption.com/audio-kbase/?p=243 | Nov 17 15:49 |
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schestowitz | new link | Nov 17 15:49 |
gnufreex | It is like SUSE lizzard | Nov 17 15:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://illegal-art.net/shop/#news50 - New #girltalk album is too awesome! !cc - Buy the album or just download it now | Nov 17 15:50 | |
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Ender2070 | good article | Nov 17 15:51 |
Ender2070 | anything fedora 14 is +1 | Nov 17 15:51 |
Ender2070 | did you get my message about Fusion Linux though? | Nov 17 15:51 |
Ender2070 | turns out its running mono | Nov 17 15:51 |
Ender2070 | however, a lot of people asked him for his kickstart file | Nov 17 15:52 |
Ender2070 | you can use the kickstart file to automate your own version and just remove software from the kickstart file | Nov 17 15:52 |
Ender2070 | its as simple as putting a minus sign in front of tomboy and f-spot in the list | Nov 17 15:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody speaking of tentacles, watch http://is.gd/hi8Vl under 6C: "Jonathan Zuck" #microsoft #lobbyists from @actonline | Nov 17 15:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] A "clarification" from Fedora on the SQLNinja decision http://lwn.net/Articles/415853/rss | Nov 17 15:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: The Qt Blog - KDAB and Partners Build KDE-based Mobile App Suite Using Qt 4.7 http://ow.ly/1a193C | Nov 17 15:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] !NaNoWriMo wordcount at 36,300 http://baldynovel.blogspot.com/ | Nov 17 15:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I am listening to the !techbytes pilot :) | Nov 17 15:57 | |
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Ender2070 | totally forgot what today is | Nov 17 15:57 |
Ender2070 | its my birthday | Nov 17 15:57 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: Ok Happy Birthday, how old? | Nov 17 15:59 |
Ender2070 | 26 | Nov 17 15:59 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Gnome Shell Overview-Relayout Branch Gets Polished http://bit.ly/cZi8Wv | Nov 17 16:00 | |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: How long is the pilt meant to be, the OGG on site seems to cut off the end | Nov 17 16:01 |
sebsebseb | pilot above | Nov 17 16:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz why are TR's blogs so anti-GPL? random example http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1901 | Nov 17 16:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith You probably can't. Grab the source rpm and go from there instead. | Nov 17 16:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 No lucky, could never compile anything by hand. Always something is missing. But, there should be a way. | Nov 17 16:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] trying out #hotot. UI is real nice | Nov 17 16:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @sebsebseb why the pilot? Best ep so far was the last one!! | Nov 17 16:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith If something is missing it's usually an obscure library that needs to be installed. Hints are in the .spec file. | Nov 17 16:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 To convert between RPM's. The libs R the same, just the name changes (I hate this with passion) Deb's convert fine though | Nov 17 16:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith Look at the dependencies for what is missing | Nov 17 16:05 | |
Ender2070 | sebsebseb vlc ? | Nov 17 16:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith Debs convert fine because all the deb distros came from debian. RPM distros dont have the same source. | Nov 17 16:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♻ @jwildeboer #OpenData that is not made available using #OpenStandards simply isn't #Opendata. | Nov 17 16:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] We added #flattr micropayments as a way to support #validators http://ping.fm/1NHxh #flattr us so we can do more! | Nov 17 16:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 It's disappoint when one gets to rpm.pbone and pass the dependency tests and the package doesn't install. (...) | Nov 17 16:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith - if !Fedora has the package, why not just use Fedora? It's a great distro. Lots of support and packages. | Nov 17 16:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 You know you have all the libs and stuff, yet, the names R different, so, it doesn't advance, and, you can't get the program | Nov 17 16:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] got labs to complete and quizzes to take online. better get to it | Nov 17 16:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @charlesschulz: ♻ @jwildeboer #OpenData that is not made available using #OpenStandards simply isn't #Opendata.<reasonable generalization | Nov 17 16:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 To run in your system. | Nov 17 16:13 | |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: I can't remember how long it was, does the page not say? | Nov 17 16:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What's Going On With Iveland & OpenBenchmarking.org: Last month I said what OpenBenchmarking.org is and how it s... http://bit.ly/9BR4xs | Nov 17 16:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Actually I'm considering Fedora or Arch Linux. Got fed up with absent packages and dependencies | Nov 17 16:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 wow! I saw that exact same anti-GPL sentence yesterday; didn't think others would see it. http://is.gd/hidiY | Nov 17 16:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @royhugo: US Scientists Significantly More Likely to Publish Fake Research, Study Finds http://is.gd/hi4Uh <and the study is also fake ;-) | Nov 17 16:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith You should consider Fedora. At least you know it has the package you want. | Nov 17 16:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 @schestowitz why are TR's blogs so anti-GPL? random example http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1901 !fsf !gpl #gplv3 | Nov 17 16:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Yup, and the uid and gid of my /home would work nice(in debian, they would not work) | Nov 17 16:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Did I mention the Mimi and Eunice book? - http://is.gd/hieiE | Nov 17 16:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] "fakes were > likely to appear in [pubs] with a high impact factor" http://ur1.ca/2d9yn or is it "are >likely to be exposed" there? | Nov 17 16:22 | |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh you'll see what I am on about, why I ask that, soon on identica :D | Nov 17 16:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] UK Government still doesn't understand the Internet, wants to close down innovation in favour of monopolies - http://is.gd/hif2H | Nov 17 16:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] My old presentation from 1997 about the future of the Internet. 13 yrs later, some of it is quite accurate :) http://tinyurl.com/35q25g4 #fb | Nov 17 16:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] #lazyweb I seem to remember a licence/eula update comparison (diff) site, anyone got a link? | Nov 17 16:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] On way home from work......busy day. | Nov 17 16:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @mathias Did IE9 cheat in the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark? http://mths.be/aoo | Nov 17 16:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rich people (who own the country) make new rules to dehumanise http://is.gd/hifwZ #sharing #guiltybydefault #mafiaa | Nov 17 16:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes got half an hour to record? | Nov 17 16:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Is Pirate Bay going to the movies too ? The real social network. http://ur1.ca/2da1m | Nov 17 16:30 | |
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schestowitz | "Their points on screen are largely valid, though..." http://identi.ca/conversation/58237613#notice-58789701 | Nov 17 16:32 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] "Cloud and Virtualization Features Set Fedora 14 Apart" - @pcworld http://ur1.ca/2cd7o | Nov 17 16:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] fair play to Sony ‐ http://us.playstation.com/support/useragreements/PSN-termsofservice-changes/index.htm #psn #tos #diff | Nov 17 16:33 | |
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schestowitz | [14:17] <gnufreex> OpenJDK works on MeGoo, I think. | Nov 17 16:33 |
schestowitz | /me goo gle | Nov 17 16:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "'Jesuit priest' forger has fooled US museums for more than 20 years" - http://is.gd/hihbU | Nov 17 16:35 | |
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gnufreex | schestowitz: I have seen it working on Maemo and N900. Not sure if it is ported on MeeGo yet. | Nov 17 16:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 It was not only that post. Other [TechRepublic] posts had anti-GPL stuff too. //not surprising. Editors pro-Windows/ZDNet | Nov 17 16:37 | |
cubezzz | at least academia isn't anti-GPL (I think) | Nov 17 16:39 |
cubezzz | mostly people share knowledge | Nov 17 16:39 |
schestowitz | works better | Nov 17 16:39 |
schestowitz | [14:47] * Diablo-D3 's head explodes | Nov 17 16:41 |
schestowitz | Stand steady, we'll get you another one | Nov 17 16:41 |
schestowitz | Is it a Philips one? | Nov 17 16:42 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @openbytes That one, because I hadn't listened to any before. I found it ok. Cuts off on @schestowitz website so had to download for end. | Nov 17 16:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @techmeerkat: Google strikes deal to scan French books http://bit.ly/bdaY3Y #copyright #law #France | Nov 17 16:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] An OpenSSL race condition http://lwn.net/Articles/415866/rss | Nov 17 16:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I have such an awesome team. Horsemen: you rock. :-) #ubuntu | Nov 17 16:48 | |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: the server does not support RESUME | Nov 17 16:51 |
schestowitz | so you can't download from middle of file, e.g. if it streams under turbulence. oiaohm warned about this. THe cache makes it hard to get past | Nov 17 16:52 |
schestowitz | In non-cached requests we had over 6000 in the past 3 days \0/ | Nov 17 16:53 |
schestowitz | Twice last week's pace | Nov 17 16:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Great to see @ubuntul10n starting to tweet about awesome translations work - do follow him! #ubuntu #locoteams | Nov 17 16:53 | |
gnufreex | I just now seeing how much Jono got blasted over OpenRespect.org | Nov 17 16:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mgeist RT @jamie_love The "final" ACTA text not really final text. US says substantive review underway. Signing "could be months away" | Nov 17 16:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] RT @jonobacon Wondering if I need to hire a plane to draw "OpenRespect is not an Ubuntu/Canonical project" in the sky | Nov 17 16:57 | |
schestowitz | me: '[C]raze just keeps on coming from Florian Mueller: "Linux is all about proprietary extensions..."' -- @gnufreex - #mobbyists ☛ hate !linux ☛ | Nov 17 16:57 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh right yeah, I did pause it whenever it was, is that what your on about? | Nov 17 16:57 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: I don't think jono deserves this treatment | Nov 17 16:57 |
schestowitz | But he got his behind handed to him by complaining about others, better would be to avoid it | Nov 17 16:58 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: same here, jono didn't really deserve most of that | Nov 17 16:58 |
schestowitz | Sometimes it's better to be passive, e.g. when trolled | Nov 17 16:58 |
schestowitz | jono: also, in COLA, I don't think you should have responded to a troll thread | Nov 17 16:58 |
Ender2070 | Jesus said something about that | Nov 17 16:59 |
schestowitz | You think you'll correct it, but trolls have bigger numbers than you | Nov 17 16:59 |
gnufreex | I think jono probably didn't deserve. But Canonical did. | Nov 17 16:59 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: Jesus existed for sure? | Nov 17 16:59 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Nov 17 17:00 |
Ender2070 | shroud of turin | Nov 17 17:00 |
gnufreex | What Jesus said about open source? | Nov 17 17:00 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: Why do you think that? | Nov 17 17:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can You Feel the Tension? - http://bit.ly/b0Qwca EC & EPO want to explore "tensions" between ICT standards and patents: isn't it decided? | Nov 17 17:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] No website blacklists, no Internet censorship! https://eff.org/r.4uq #COICA | Nov 17 17:00 | |
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schestowitz | gnufreex: Jesus would download Ubuntu CE :_) | Nov 17 17:00 |
schestowitz | WhatOSJesusWouldUse... | Nov 17 17:00 |
jono | schestowitz yeah I am not participating in COLA again - it is a shame, I used to love that group | Nov 17 17:01 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: whats COLA? | Nov 17 17:01 |
Ender2070 | its a type of soda pop | Nov 17 17:01 |
sebsebseb | other than COCA COLA of course :D | Nov 17 17:01 |
schestowitz | http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/57358 | Nov 17 17:01 |
gnufreex | sebsebseb: They have been pretty disrespectful from the start. | Nov 17 17:01 |
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schestowitz | Preloaded with adaware | Nov 17 17:01 |
schestowitz | adware | Nov 17 17:01 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: Why do you think that? | Nov 17 17:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Anyone who says other people are wrong is wrong. #apparently | Nov 17 17:02 | |
schestowitz | http://digg.com/news/technology/Jesus_Linux_Ubuntu_Christian_Edition | Nov 17 17:02 |
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sebsebseb | on the subject of COCA COLA and well junk food, the latest Panorama was quite good really | Nov 17 17:02 |
schestowitz | Not *that* cola | Nov 17 17:03 |
gnufreex | sebsebseb: Read Shuttlewort blog sometimes. He knows how to shame others, but never admits mistake. | Nov 17 17:03 |
schestowitz | Comp.OS.Linux.ADVOCACY | Nov 17 17:03 |
Ender2070 | alex jones live | Nov 17 17:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] google doesn't work without your data. if movie stars and music artists get royalties, why don't we? | Nov 17 17:03 | |
Ender2070 | lololol | Nov 17 17:03 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes I know, you mean cola as in something tech | Nov 17 17:03 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: some kind of group of some sort of indeitca or twtter or something | Nov 17 17:04 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aygXdCsYO5s&feature=related | Nov 17 17:04 |
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gnufreex | Also, Ubuntu is growing more hostile to software freedom, with attracting anti-Freedom trolls by distributing mono, and giving them platform on UF. | Nov 17 17:04 |
schestowitz | Here's Jones going nuts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APTn1EPg9E&feature=related | Nov 17 17:05 |
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sebsebseb | gnufreex: platform on Ubuntu Forums? What do you mean? | Nov 17 17:05 |
Ender2070 | AJ always goes nuts | Nov 17 17:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Excited to announce that the Miraverse is doubling all gifts to CC of $5-500! No amount is too small http://bit.ly/bgwvre | Nov 17 17:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @mairin: google doesn't work without your data. if movie stars and music artists get royalties, why don't we? | Nov 17 17:05 | |
schestowitz | He doesn't go nuts | Nov 17 17:05 |
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schestowitz | he *is* nuts | Nov 17 17:05 |
gnufreex | Platform for trolling and shilling. sebsebseb | Nov 17 17:05 |
schestowitz | he harms his message with his attitude | Nov 17 17:05 |
schestowitz | He could take a lesson from RMS, which is calm | Nov 17 17:05 |
Ender2070 | hes from texas though | Nov 17 17:06 |
schestowitz | It's not an excuse :-) | Nov 17 17:06 |
schestowitz | It doesn't make him disabled | Nov 17 17:06 |
Ender2070 | texans have a piping hot attitude | Nov 17 17:06 |
schestowitz | WordPress creator Matt Mullenwegis from Texas | Nov 17 17:06 |
Ender2070 | plus he is a bit of a cristian | Nov 17 17:07 |
Ender2070 | christian* | Nov 17 17:07 |
schestowitz | Als no excuse | Nov 17 17:07 |
schestowitz | To be angry | Nov 17 17:07 |
Ender2070 | theres plenty of reason to be angry | Nov 17 17:07 |
schestowitz | I am super calm | Nov 17 17:07 |
schestowitz | Never shouting or raising voice, never crying | Nov 17 17:07 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Nov 17 17:08 |
Ender2070 | you're well medicated | Nov 17 17:08 |
Ender2070 | :P | Nov 17 17:08 |
schestowitz | I just spoke about it with someone a few days ago | Nov 17 17:08 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: tea is not medicine :-) | Nov 17 17:08 |
Ender2070 | you're in the UK? | Nov 17 17:08 |
schestowitz | That's nothing to do with geo | Nov 17 17:08 |
schestowitz | But polite people are in central Europe | Nov 17 17:09 |
schestowitz | Like Germans even | Nov 17 17:09 |
Ender2070 | you're in one of the countries that poisons people | Nov 17 17:09 |
schestowitz | Brits shout sometimes | Nov 17 17:09 |
Ender2070 | do you guys use flouride yet? | Nov 17 17:09 |
schestowitz | in water? | Nov 17 17:09 |
Ender2070 | yes | Nov 17 17:09 |
schestowitz | do *you*? | Nov 17 17:09 |
Ender2070 | yes | Nov 17 17:09 |
schestowitz | We have cyanide | Nov 17 17:09 |
schestowitz | So do you | Nov 17 17:09 |
schestowitz | and chlorine | Nov 17 17:09 |
Ender2070 | chlorine | Nov 17 17:09 |
schestowitz | Global issue | Nov 17 17:09 |
Ender2070 | theres also the geoengineering | Nov 17 17:10 |
schestowitz | gets worse over time with more water cycles | Nov 17 17:10 |
schestowitz | BP gave us some dispersements too now | Nov 17 17:10 |
Ender2070 | in each glass of water here, is a drop of toothpaste | Nov 17 17:10 |
schestowitz | It's airborne they say.... goes with rain | Nov 17 17:10 |
Ender2070 | airborne aluminum is from geoengineering | Nov 17 17:11 |
Ender2070 | its not flouride | Nov 17 17:11 |
Ender2070 | actually theres both im assuming | Nov 17 17:11 |
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schestowitz | dispersents I meant | Nov 17 17:11 |
Ender2070 | never thought about flouride in the rain | Nov 17 17:11 |
sebsebseb | welcome back abeNd-org | Nov 17 17:11 |
schestowitz | The spellchecker changed it | Nov 17 17:11 |
Ender2070 | i dont think a metal would evaporate back into the clouds with water | Nov 17 17:11 |
schestowitz | how is flouride processed? | Nov 17 17:12 |
*schestowitz hits the wiki | Nov 17 17:12 | |
Ender2070 | but the geoengineering projects are putting aluminum and barium aerosols into the atmosphere | Nov 17 17:12 |
schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USDA_Mineral_Flourite_93c3962.jpg | Nov 17 17:12 |
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Ender2070 | david keith from the U of Calgary suggested putting 10-20 megatonnes of aluminum in the atmosphere for global warming | Nov 17 17:13 |
Ender2070 | seems its already being done | Nov 17 17:13 |
schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Halothane2.png | Nov 17 17:13 |
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schestowitz | It's just a F element! | Nov 17 17:13 |
Ender2070 | aluminum oxides can clog arteries too | Nov 17 17:13 |
schestowitz | Ender2070:dimming? | Nov 17 17:13 |
schestowitz | good for insurance companies then | Nov 17 17:14 |
schestowitz | Less pension to pay | Nov 17 17:14 |
schestowitz | NI | Nov 17 17:14 |
Ender2070 | yeah but the particles are supposed to block some of the sun | Nov 17 17:14 |
Ender2070 | however the stuff falls down from the sky too | Nov 17 17:14 |
Ender2070 | now that the evidence is coming out, they spin it for global warming protection | Nov 17 17:15 |
Ender2070 | flouride in the water increases your absorbtion of aluminum | Nov 17 17:16 |
Ender2070 | alzheimers has skyrocketted | Nov 17 17:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #redhatrocks for a lot of reasons. | Nov 17 17:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bsookman: The Canadian government appeals the Amazon.com decision regarding the patentability of business methods. | Nov 17 17:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mairin google doesn't work without your data. if movie stars and music artists get royalties, why don't we? | Nov 17 17:17 | |
Ender2070 | monsanto is making aluminum resistent seeds now | Nov 17 17:17 |
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schestowitz | Ender2070: dimming leads to warming, over time | Nov 17 17:18 |
schestowitz | We mess up with lots of stuff | Nov 17 17:18 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Nov 17 17:18 |
schestowitz | also health issues | Nov 17 17:19 |
schestowitz | Not just water levek | Nov 17 17:19 |
Ender2070 | well theres too many people | Nov 17 17:19 |
schestowitz | But our medical knowledge improves | Nov 17 17:19 |
schestowitz | Now we can provide and make money from poison we also put everywhere | Nov 17 17:19 |
Ender2070 | if theres too many people it doesnt matter if your methods are harmful | Nov 17 17:19 |
Ender2070 | plus they have seed vaults for humanity, a backup | Nov 17 17:19 |
schestowitz | You anti babies man!! | Nov 17 17:20 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin I don't use skype personally here, but other people here have, maybe I can do something for Mageia Alpha 1 for Tech Bytes | Nov 17 17:20 |
Ender2070 | you could nuke the entire planet and still be able to rebuild humanity | Nov 17 17:20 |
schestowitz | the Alex Jones idiocy... | Nov 17 17:20 |
Ender2070 | and all the animals | Nov 17 17:20 |
Ender2070 | and plants | Nov 17 17:20 |
schestowitz | And anti-abortion drones | Nov 17 17:20 |
schestowitz | Who are manipulated by people who pretend they speak to SKYDaddy(); | Nov 17 17:20 |
schestowitz | They label populists as some sort of Hitlers, for saying there's too many of us and energy runs out | Nov 17 17:21 |
Ender2070 | AJ just tries to make lots of money | Nov 17 17:21 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: of course! | Nov 17 17:21 |
Ender2070 | scaring people into buying all his movies, full of public info you can find for free | Nov 17 17:21 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: promoting quacks in the sidebar | Nov 17 17:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @mairin google doesn't work without your data. if movie stars and music artists get royalties, why don't we? | we should ask RIAA :-) | Nov 17 17:22 | |
schestowitz | all that water filter junk and other such placeboware | Nov 17 17:22 |
Ender2070 | thats what I mean yeah | Nov 17 17:22 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: really got to use Skype though, we have a good thing for VOIP here :) | Nov 17 17:22 |
Ender2070 | scare into buying products | Nov 17 17:22 |
Ender2070 | actually all you need is ANY water filter | Nov 17 17:22 |
Ender2070 | you dont need some tinfoil hat wearing one | Nov 17 17:22 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: don't know how else to record | Nov 17 17:22 |
Ender2070 | almost all of them filter out flouride | Nov 17 17:23 |
schestowitz | Our phone lines don't do in/out rec, not with wiring... just hanging mics | Nov 17 17:23 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: depends where | Nov 17 17:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] IMO most established !FaiF programs have excellent UIs,but I agree they're tuned for type of user I am. Reply to @tieguy blog: ur1.ca/2dads | Nov 17 17:23 | |
schestowitz | Canada must have good water | Nov 17 17:23 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: well the plan is to go PC Linux OS soon, uhmm Skype can be a pain to set up in Linux distros, my Vista install sound doesn't work right now, unless I can find the driver, but got another computer with XP here anyyway, that I could do Skype with, and thats also got Mandriva | Nov 17 17:23 |
Ender2070 | nah the water sucks unless you filter out the toxins | Nov 17 17:24 |
schestowitz | Lots of mountains with snow+thawing | Nov 17 17:24 |
Ender2070 | ROFL | Nov 17 17:24 |
schestowitz | None of that nearby factories and underground burial of junk | Nov 17 17:24 |
Ender2070 | maybe in BC | Nov 17 17:24 |
schestowitz | When I was in Turkey we were told in advance only to drink bottled water | Nov 17 17:24 |
Ender2070 | not too much mountain water in ontario | Nov 17 17:24 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: we can phone any land line, in UK or pretty much, and quite a lot of other counteries, for free with the VOIP thing thats used here | Nov 17 17:25 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: maybe it rises from junk yards in Detroit | Nov 17 17:25 |
Ender2070 | only bottled water I drink is dasani | Nov 17 17:25 |
Ender2070 | its reverse osmosis | Nov 17 17:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @jonobacon Wondering if I need to hire a plane to draw "OpenRespect is not an Ubuntu/Canonical project" in the sky | Nov 17 17:25 | |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: you done it now as well :D ^ | Nov 17 17:25 |
Ender2070 | they have to remineralize it, and theres no flouride | Nov 17 17:26 |
Ender2070 | i do all these things and as a result my memory is intact | Nov 17 17:26 |
Ender2070 | plus i'm healthy | Nov 17 17:26 |
Ender2070 | the only thing I can't do anything about is the air | Nov 17 17:27 |
Ender2070 | unless I go darth vader | Nov 17 17:27 |
Ender2070 | use the force luke.... | Nov 17 17:27 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin Then again maybe not really a good idea, since I currently tend to suck at phone calls | Nov 17 17:28 |
*sebsebseb is a text person :D | Nov 17 17:28 | |
_Goblin | :) | Nov 17 17:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Simple user-space tracing http://lwn.net/Articles/415878/rss | Nov 17 17:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] this lab is mad long man. | Nov 17 17:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink Open Response from Oracle to Apache: http://bit.ly/dgwNIn [Note the invocation of FRAND] | Nov 17 17:28 | |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin and can probably get someone proper from the Mageia community anyway, if asking them about that | Nov 17 17:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Fire up your clients for tonight's !FSFE jabber meeting on #FreeSoftware in #education http://ur1.ca/2daeu starting 8pm UTC+1 | Nov 17 17:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft open sources Open data .NET, Silverlight, and Windows Phone 7 client libraries (MSDN Blogs) http://bit.ly/d8J6KI | Nov 17 17:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Wonderful tea just makes up for dark, cold, wet, dirty hour of unscheduled car repair: improvised part failed, will have to order proper one | Nov 17 17:32 | |
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sebsebseb | _Goblin: schestowitz Its quite fun listening to the voices in a way, altough schestowitz doesn't sound so good on there :D | Nov 17 17:32 |
sebsebseb | and _Goblin you sound very British :D | Nov 17 17:32 |
_Goblin | its a mic issue | Nov 17 17:33 |
_Goblin | lol | Nov 17 17:33 |
Ender2070 | _Goblin - how come you wear a cowboy hat | Nov 17 17:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vaizey's speech dumping Net neutrality - http://bit.ly/b90XO5 nice he says "open" so often; pity he doesn't mean it #netneutrality #uk | Nov 17 17:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CDOs: How Self-Dealing Banks Destroyed the Economy [IMG] http://is.gd/hisj0 | Nov 17 17:33 | |
_Goblin | I'll mention that in the next show! | Nov 17 17:33 |
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_Goblin | hides my identity. | Nov 17 17:34 |
Ender2070 | even from CCTV? | Nov 17 17:34 |
Ender2070 | Now I know why you're not worried :) | Nov 17 17:34 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 17:34 |
_Goblin | lol | Nov 17 17:34 |
_Goblin | :) | Nov 17 17:34 |
Ender2070 | "Hey it's that Texan again" "Hes no threat" | Nov 17 17:34 |
sebsebseb | Episode 1 sounds a bit boring or maybe thats just since I am listening to this soon after the pilot | Nov 17 17:35 |
Ender2070 | sebsebseb :( | Nov 17 17:35 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: yeah your in that one aren't you? | Nov 17 17:35 |
Ender2070 | im in that one | Nov 17 17:35 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: well I haven't got to that yet | Nov 17 17:35 |
Ender2070 | ahh ok | Nov 17 17:35 |
_Goblin | yeah...go for the latest ep.... | Nov 17 17:35 |
_Goblin | you have to remember its a learning process for both of us.... | Nov 17 17:36 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: nah I am catching up | Nov 17 17:36 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: i'll listen to them all, even though I don't tend to like stuff like this | Nov 17 17:36 |
sebsebseb | I would rather listen to music on my computer than these kind of things :) | Nov 17 17:36 |
_Goblin | I thought he was listening to the pilot | Nov 17 17:36 |
Ender2070 | nah episode 1 | Nov 17 17:36 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: I was, but that finnished a while ago | Nov 17 17:36 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: then a brake, and doing episode 1 | Nov 17 17:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] How do I feel about Unity and Wayland in Ubuntu? http://ht.ly/1a1uzh | Nov 17 17:37 | |
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_Goblin | ah | Nov 17 17:37 |
Ender2070 | im behind in the show | Nov 17 17:38 |
Ender2070 | so many episodes now | Nov 17 17:39 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: I am behind and I am doing in order as well | Nov 17 17:39 |
Ender2070 | i think its more often than once a week | Nov 17 17:39 |
sebsebseb | I am behind on UDS videos as well, I mean I have like had Shuttleworths keynote open, but still not watched it properly | Nov 17 17:39 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: yes I think they are doing pretty much daily now | Nov 17 17:40 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: Im going to have some dinner, do some stuff and I'll be back in a bit......got some topics...including some great little gems of software..... | Nov 17 17:41 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: in episode 6 onwards we do noise cancellation better | Nov 17 17:41 |
schestowitz | The sound should be better. Pilot was a mess recording-wise | Nov 17 17:41 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: got 6300 downloads (non-caches) since Sunday | Nov 17 17:42 |
schestowitz | *ched | Nov 17 17:42 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: how does it work, is it a three way phone call on Skype or something, so when its time for someone else to chat such as guest speaker, they just do or what? | Nov 17 17:42 |
schestowitz | Not sure how many get cached or downloaded from your site's mirror, but the number doubled wrt last week and it shows we don't drive people away :-o | Nov 17 17:43 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: we can do a show with you tonight | Nov 17 17:43 |
schestowitz | if Tim agrees | Nov 17 17:43 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm I am not set up with SKype like I said | Nov 17 17:43 |
schestowitz | It would be a good time cause of Mageia news | Nov 17 17:44 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: should take you minutes | Nov 17 17:44 |
schestowitz | The recorder is not compatible with ekiga (yet) | Nov 17 17:44 |
schestowitz | I'm not sure ekiga can do >2 people in call, either | Nov 17 17:45 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: need a phone to chat in and such, or microphone, not sure where that voip phone has gone and such, but there are other computers here with Skype, that will hardly get used, but those aren't mine, however I could still use one for Skype if neassarey | Nov 17 17:45 |
sebsebseb | I know it can be a pain to set up | Nov 17 17:45 |
schestowitz | http://practical-tech.com/network/facebook%e2%80%99s-e-mail-flop/ | Nov 17 17:45 |
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sebsebseb | anyway doing one of these podcasts on Skype, costs for everyone doing it? | Nov 17 17:45 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, can use on any account | Nov 17 17:46 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: no, it's free | Nov 17 17:46 |
sebsebseb | yeah, but Skype costs, its not like our other voip thing | Nov 17 17:46 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway isn't it best to wait for alpha 1 really for Mageia stuff on there? | Nov 17 17:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] i get frustrated when i can't have a conversation without the end result being more work piled on my plate. | Nov 17 17:47 | |
sebsebseb | right now all I could really do is why, I want to contribute more properly to that project, community | Nov 17 17:47 |
sebsebseb | and stuff like that | Nov 17 17:47 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: the audiocast is free for those doing it? or only one person pays? | Nov 17 17:48 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: I don't even know for sure how to pronounce the distro's anme | Nov 17 17:48 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: it's free | Nov 17 17:49 |
schestowitz | Our admin also gives us bandwidth :-) | Nov 17 17:49 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: it's good to give the project publicity | Nov 17 17:49 |
schestowitz | many don't know it exists yet | Nov 17 17:49 |
schestowitz | find someone with a skype account | Nov 17 17:49 |
schestowitz | we'll hook it up with mine or tim's | Nov 17 17:50 |
schestowitz | and then start | Nov 17 17:50 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah same here, I am not sure what is the 100% correct way to pronounce it either | Nov 17 17:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux desktop may soon be a lot faster http://is.gd/hivsD "it's almost like getting a new computer," says @sjvn | Nov 17 17:50 | |
Ender2070 | you won't interview rms then ;) | Nov 17 17:50 |
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schestowitz | Ender2070: I can use ekiga or landline | Nov 17 17:50 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: theres also this :D | Nov 17 17:51 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: ned a land line for it though | Nov 17 17:51 |
schestowitz | need to put mic on phone | Nov 17 17:51 |
sebsebseb | it seems | Nov 17 17:51 |
sebsebseb | http://www.voipcheap.com | Nov 17 17:51 |
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sebsebseb | http://www.voipcheap.com :) | Nov 17 17:51 |
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sebsebseb | their software is only for Windows last time I looked at site, but can use it with ekiga even | Nov 17 17:51 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: I interviewed RMS before | Nov 17 17:51 |
sebsebseb | and theres a way to use it, without needing to use the actsaul program | Nov 17 17:51 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: no, it's another one | Nov 17 17:51 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: need to put mic on phone? | Nov 17 17:53 |
*sebsebseb has thought about buying an actsual microphone a few times before, but hasn't | Nov 17 17:53 | |
sebsebseb | a main reason I wanted that, was becuse of Paltalk, and I remember how, there would be like rooms, and then if permission to talk, someone would chat to the whole room :D | Nov 17 17:54 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: schestowitz What kind of kit you got for this? | Nov 17 17:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Presenting at INET Singapore 2010, Nov 18 2010 - http://www.scribd.com/doc/42970464/INET-Singapore-November-18-2010 #fb #inet | Nov 17 17:55 | |
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sebsebseb | Ender2070: So when you did it, did you just listen to everything they said, and then just said something when it was your turn, or? | Nov 17 17:56 |
schestowitz | Meh: http://opensource.com/life/10/11/good-design-hard-all-us | Nov 17 17:56 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ARGH!!! http://is.gd/hiwM2 Windows is easy. | Nov 17 17:57 | |
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schestowitz | sebsebseb: you don't need a mic of your own | Nov 17 17:57 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh? | Nov 17 17:57 |
schestowitz | Not if you can borrow someone's account/pc for half an hour | Nov 17 17:57 |
schestowitz | Might be easiest | Nov 17 17:57 |
sebsebseb | yeah there are voip phones here or whatever, that can be used with Skype | Nov 17 17:57 |
schestowitz | System76 ☛ and the World http://is.gd/hiwwH expansion a sign that !gnu ☛ !linux ☛ does sell... and well | Nov 17 17:58 |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: however I have actsauly thought about buying a mic, since what I just said | Nov 17 17:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz I agree, but gov't agencies helped them do it. #InfluencePeddling is the real problem. | Nov 17 17:58 | |
cubezzz | I coudn't find the older style mics at staples | Nov 17 17:58 |
cubezzz | I ended up using a shure dynamic mic | Nov 17 17:59 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: Free to use Skpe for this really? | Nov 17 18:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz: ARGH!!! http://is.gd/hiwM2 #Windows is easy. // that's a strange way of spelling 'junk' | Nov 17 18:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 that too | Nov 17 18:00 | |
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Ender2070 | yes sebsebseb | Nov 17 18:00 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: I thought Skype was well pay for most phone calls? | Nov 17 18:00 |
sebsebseb | or all phone calls even | Nov 17 18:01 |
Ender2070 | skype to skype is free | Nov 17 18:01 |
sebsebseb | ok :) | Nov 17 18:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] In one hour, join me for a live Ubuntu and community video Q+A at http://is.gd/hixHX 11am Pac / 2pm Eas / 7pm UTC/GMT #ubuntu #community | Nov 17 18:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Folks, have you helped Severed Fifth hit the studio and record a Free Culture album? http://is.gd/hbI6k #severedfifth | Nov 17 18:03 | |
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schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, just get a computer/account to use, tell me what it is, I'll ring up | Nov 17 18:06 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: right ok I guess | Nov 17 18:06 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah I am on the Ender2070 interview now | Nov 17 18:07 |
sebsebseb | so the interviews get added to the audiocast? | Nov 17 18:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] for once, maybe the #BBC just happened to save the public a fortune with that Panorama expose http://bbc.in/dsFDwQ #corruption #fifa | Nov 17 18:08 | |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah? | Nov 17 18:08 |
Ender2070 | they add it to the audiocast | Nov 17 18:09 |
Ender2070 | editing | Nov 17 18:09 |
sebsebseb | ok :) | Nov 17 18:09 |
schestowitz | uncle brucie says "To judge from these comments, TDF is apparently using the break with OpenOffice.org to reconsider priorities." http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3913286 | Nov 17 18:09 |
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schestowitz | So far his article seems fair | Nov 17 18:09 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: uncle brucie ? | Nov 17 18:10 |
sebsebseb | oh the one who wrote article | Nov 17 18:10 |
schestowitz | I joke | Nov 17 18:10 |
schestowitz | Like some call Schneier | Nov 17 18:10 |
schestowitz | Byfield annoys some people | Nov 17 18:10 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok so yeah, get set up or whatever, say I am ready, and do it, and thats it? interview? | Nov 17 18:11 |
schestowitz | yes | Nov 17 18:14 |
schestowitz | tim will be on too | Nov 17 18:14 |
schestowitz | we figures out how to do conference call | Nov 17 18:14 |
schestowitz | *red | Nov 17 18:14 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: well not today for this | Nov 17 18:14 |
schestowitz | and to rexord it properly | Nov 17 18:14 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: however what kind of qustions would you ask? | Nov 17 18:14 |
schestowitz | Took me time messing around and testing 2 nights ago | Nov 17 18:14 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: did you figure out how to replace Skype? | Nov 17 18:14 |
gnufreex | :-) | Nov 17 18:15 |
schestowitz | I have ekiga, but it has no recoder | Nov 17 18:15 |
schestowitz | I am still trying to find one] | Nov 17 18:15 |
schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ which ekiga | Nov 17 18:16 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: If I am going to do it, I want to have some questions idealy, that I can answer properly :) | Nov 17 18:16 |
schestowitz | /usr/bin/ekiga | Nov 17 18:16 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: it's up for you to lead | Nov 17 18:16 |
schestowitz | We just provide cushion and guidance | Nov 17 18:16 |
schestowitz | And it's not just about this distros | Nov 17 18:16 |
schestowitz | We don't write down questions/content | Nov 17 18:16 |
schestowitz | Only at the end as afterthought | Nov 17 18:17 |
sebsebseb | ok your saying its up to me, what I say basically? and yeah you'll ask some questions when doing it | Nov 17 18:17 |
schestowitz | it'll be easy | Nov 17 18:17 |
schestowitz | I know enough to fill in and ensure we have no awkward silences | Nov 17 18:18 |
sebsebseb | ok :) | Nov 17 18:18 |
gnufreex | Empathy can't record? (have no idea, didn't try) | Nov 17 18:18 |
schestowitz | We never had awkward silence in over 10 hours of recording | Nov 17 18:18 |
schestowitz | And it's easier when 3 people are on | Nov 17 18:18 |
cubezzz | wow, 10 hours already :) | Nov 17 18:18 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: three you mean, so Tim can say stuff as well? | Nov 17 18:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] New Ubuntu Translators resources: Facebook Page: http://is.gd/hiACx Twitter/identi.ca: @ubuntul10n - join them! #ubuntu #locoteams | Nov 17 18:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Should HP/Plam look into suing RIM? http://ur1.ca/2dasp #webos | Nov 17 18:18 | |
sebsebseb | _Goblin ^ | Nov 17 18:18 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: I'm "schestowitz" (SIP) | Nov 17 18:18 |
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schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes | Nov 17 18:19 |
sebsebseb | ok :) | Nov 17 18:19 |
schestowitz | Everyone can be connected at once, maybe even 5 people | Nov 17 18:19 |
schestowitz | Although it's too much | Nov 17 18:19 |
schestowitz | No visual cues | Nov 17 18:19 |
sebsebseb | well i'll find out about the computer/skype and then maybe this week | Nov 17 18:19 |
schestowitz | for last call we needed to create irc channel | Nov 17 18:20 |
schestowitz | to pass signs | Nov 17 18:20 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Did I make a typo? | Nov 17 18:20 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh? | Nov 17 18:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz my mistake then... i most certainly should have included the license restriction... I'm still trying to get my head round !CC | Nov 17 18:20 | |
schestowitz | I make typos all the time | Nov 17 18:20 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: and I was thinking about this the other day or something ilke it, I mean the Ubuntu UK podcast, and like how I woudn't want to run one for Mageia UK probably | Nov 17 18:21 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: ,but yeah could chat on techrights sometimes :D | Nov 17 18:21 |
sebsebseb | uh techbytes I mean | Nov 17 18:21 |
schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1898365/microsoft-dumped-linux-avaya | Nov 17 18:22 |
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gnufreex | No, I am asking why you say "I am schestowitz". I thought you are implying I spelled your name wrong. | Nov 17 18:22 |
*sebsebseb has a plan this week, to go and see some sort of artwork made with Linux or something, not sure what it is yet | Nov 17 18:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New !StopUBB post: "Number Crunching UBB Bandwidth" (how much bandwidth is in the cap?) http://ur1.ca/2dat5 #CRTC #Cdnpoli | Nov 17 18:23 | |
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schestowitz | http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=1947 | Nov 17 18:24 |
schestowitz | "Robert McCormick, former CEO of IT services company Savvis, resigned in 2005 after he and several associates ran up a $241,000 tab on his company credit card during a single visit to Scores topless bar in New York." | Nov 17 18:24 |
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schestowitz | gnufreex: no, I put the username there | Nov 17 18:24 |
schestowitz | For SIP clients | Nov 17 18:24 |
schestowitz | In case people contact me | Nov 17 18:24 |
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gnufreex | Where? (I lost you completely now) | Nov 17 18:25 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I would also mention a bit about Mandriva and their latest plans and what I think of that, I guess | Nov 17 18:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Transcribing an interview with my director. #BUSC | Nov 17 18:27 | |
gnufreex | It looks Mandriva will do one release per year now. | Nov 17 18:27 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: yes | Nov 17 18:27 |
sebsebseb | and a 2010.2 is coming out on 22nd December unless delayed | Nov 17 18:27 |
gnufreex | I always thought they should do that. | Nov 17 18:27 |
sebsebseb | well it seems to fit in with their OEM stuff and what not, from what I been told | Nov 17 18:27 |
schestowitz | Is it not Russian now? | Nov 17 18:28 |
gnufreex | There is no big distro that goes 1 year schedule. | Nov 17 18:28 |
sebsebseb | and they have quite a lot of older users, who won't like upgradng their distro version much, I talked to one online not that long ago in fact | Nov 17 18:28 |
schestowitz | IIRC some Russian company bought it from those French/Brazilian roots (Mandrake/Connectiva) | Nov 17 18:28 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: right, but Mandriva won't be so big anymore | Nov 17 18:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 10 review http://is.gd/hiChW "Linux Mint has always been a good desktop distribution." | Nov 17 18:28 | |
gnufreex | Yeah, that sucks. | Nov 17 18:28 |
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sebsebseb | gnufreex: I was asking Mageia developers I think it was yesterday in IRC, about Mageia and if it will do two releases | Nov 17 18:29 |
sebsebseb | and it seems probably, but there aren't realy any proper plans yet, for the second stable release, if any realy | Nov 17 18:29 |
gnufreex | I think they should do one per year, but do it right. Lot of people are bashing Ubuntu because bugginess. | Nov 17 18:29 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: and I was explaining how I think its important for any distro that wants to gain a more proper market share to have two releases a year, because thats what Ubuntu and Fedora do | Nov 17 18:29 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: thats Ubuntu though, they don't tend to fix stuff on the backend much | Nov 17 18:30 |
sebsebseb | and they go and use newer versiosn of programs like Grub 2, because Debian do, when most other distros seem to still be on Grub 1 :) | Nov 17 18:30 |
sebsebseb | Grub 0.97 | Nov 17 18:30 |
gnufreex | Fedora is doing that because they are bleeding edge distro. | Nov 17 18:30 |
sebsebseb | Grub 2 :( | Nov 17 18:30 |
sebsebseb | Grub 0.97 :) | Nov 17 18:30 |
sebsebseb | and even Fedora is using the old version of Grub | Nov 17 18:30 |
gnufreex | Ubuntu on the other hand does also, but I think they should use older kernel and low level stuff. | Nov 17 18:31 |
gnufreex | And Ubuntu have Debian base and lots of devs. | Nov 17 18:31 |
gnufreex | I don't think Mandriva can match that. | Nov 17 18:32 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: Ubuntu isn't a very good distro anymore and its been like that since 9.04 | Nov 17 18:32 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: 9.04 was the last properly good version though, even though there was that feature by default that really got at me, yes the patched FUSA, removng shut down and log out from system menu, when that is enabled | Nov 17 18:32 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: altough from what I have seen of Unity, its interesting | Nov 17 18:32 |
sebsebseb | and ok | Nov 17 18:32 |
sebsebseb | well for end users I mean, technically hmm, since yep the copy right assignments and all that | Nov 17 18:33 |
gnufreex | If Mandrive dumps cooker and start importing things from Fedora (Like Ubuntu does with Debian), they could match Ubuntu's release schedule. Otherwise, it is too much work. | Nov 17 18:33 |
sebsebseb | as far as I know now that with these new investors, Mandriva is mainly about their big paid customers now | Nov 17 18:34 |
sebsebseb | and if thats the case, then yes it really makes sense for them to only do one release per year | Nov 17 18:34 |
sebsebseb | and this Ender2070 Fedora interview is quite long | Nov 17 18:34 |
Ender2070 | Mandriva is going to Fedora? | Nov 17 18:35 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 18:35 |
gnufreex | I think Mandriva company wouldn't break in the first place if they toned down to one release. | Nov 17 18:35 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: nope | Nov 17 18:35 |
Ender2070 | why not just use Fedora | Nov 17 18:35 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: they aren't | Nov 17 18:35 |
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sebsebseb | also Mandriva and other distros in its family, so PC Linux OS, and this Unity Linux I haven't tried yet, and of cousre Mageia when its made, are quite differnet to Fedora | Nov 17 18:35 |
gnufreex | PClinuxOS does to few releases. | Nov 17 18:36 |
sebsebseb | Fedora lacks stuff like control centre for a start, but so does Ubuntu | Nov 17 18:36 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: uhmm its a rolling release PCLOS | Nov 17 18:36 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: so that could be why your saying that :D | Nov 17 18:36 |
*schestowitz spilled water all over the table.. | Nov 17 18:36 | |
gnufreex | Yeah, it is roling but it rolls to slow. | Nov 17 18:36 |
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gnufreex | They have same packages like Debian | Nov 17 18:37 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: well I am planning on putting it on here soonish, no quite sure when, I can't just virtualbox in Fedora, plus still got a kernel issue with some of them, because I did stuff with the Nivida driver | Nov 17 18:37 |
sebsebseb | really Fedora is hyped up lke Ubuntu as well, but not as badly and not as much to the extent | Nov 17 18:37 |
sebsebseb | come on other distros :D | Nov 17 18:37 |
sebsebseb | good ones I mean, Mandriva, PC Linux OS, Mageia when its made, those kind of distros :D | Nov 17 18:38 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: Fedora even has Canonica's Simple Scan as part of it | Nov 17 18:38 |
gnufreex | also PCliuxOS is not really rolling, since it only rolls packages. 200x Releases only use one kernel and KDE 3.xx | Nov 17 18:38 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm episode 1 is two hours or something daft wasn't it? | Nov 17 18:38 |
gnufreex | They don't update kernel and DE | Nov 17 18:38 |
gnufreex | Only packages. | Nov 17 18:39 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: no PCLOS has been using KDE 4 for quite a long time now | Nov 17 18:39 |
gnufreex | like programs and such. | Nov 17 18:39 |
gnufreex | Hmm... I used it last year. | Nov 17 18:39 |
gnufreex | It was KDE3 | Nov 17 18:39 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: uh thats last year | Nov 17 18:39 |
gnufreex | They probably updated by now | Nov 17 18:39 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: most of 2010 has been now as well | Nov 17 18:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Create a foggy window http://is.gd/hiEqd #blender3d #freesoftware | Nov 17 18:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana @glynmoody, @webmink misses key point: #RAND *does* discriminate against certain FLOSS licenses:e.g., !GPL. RAND is bad *per se* | Nov 17 18:40 | |
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gnufreex | But my point is that KDE came in new release (2010), and not as an update. | Nov 17 18:40 |
gnufreex | That is not so rolling release. | Nov 17 18:40 |
gnufreex | Arch Linux is rolling. | Nov 17 18:41 |
gnufreex | They give new kernel and new KDE as an update. | Nov 17 18:41 |
gnufreex | Just pacman -U | Nov 17 18:41 |
gnufreex | And you get everything new. | Nov 17 18:41 |
Ender2070 | fedora does too | Nov 17 18:41 |
Ender2070 | yum update | Nov 17 18:41 |
gnufreex | Ender2070: No, it does not give new kernel as update to F14 | Nov 17 18:42 |
Ender2070 | it will | Nov 17 18:42 |
gnufreex | As in 2.6.35 to .36 | Nov 17 18:42 |
gnufreex | It goes 2.6.35-xx | Nov 17 18:43 |
Ender2070 | it will when it passes | Nov 17 18:43 |
gnufreex | 2.6.37 is now out, I didn't get it | Nov 17 18:43 |
gnufreex | I have been using Fedora for some time, it doesn't give new kernels. You have to install F15 | Nov 17 18:44 |
gnufreex | Or so | Nov 17 18:44 |
gnufreex | You can add new kernel manualy | Nov 17 18:44 |
Ender2070 | it does give new kernels | Nov 17 18:44 |
gnufreex | You are mixing Fedora releases with Rawhide. | Nov 17 18:44 |
Ender2070 | f13 got .34 | Nov 17 18:45 |
gnufreex | As an option? | Nov 17 18:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @PegNorthPirate UK Culture Minister Backs 'Two-Speed' Internet: http://ur1.ca/2day1 (administers culture death blow) #NetNeutrality #FAIL | Nov 17 18:45 | |
Ender2070 | as default | Nov 17 18:45 |
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Ender2070 | after an update | Nov 17 18:45 |
gnufreex | Did it get new gnome? Did will F14 get GNOME 3 as an update? Roling release does all that. | Nov 17 18:46 |
gnufreex | Like Arch. | Nov 17 18:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn Bzzt, wrong. RAND describes a superset of behaviours. Some RAND requirements lead to RF terms. [1/2] | Nov 17 18:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @inkorrupt Life is too Short to be Controlled - Part 2 http://t.co/HI0uERc #ppi #tpn #piracy #piraten #surveillance via @one2teach1 | Nov 17 18:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn The existence of trivial counterexamples where RAND standards have GPL implementations allows trolls to thus discredit this position. | Nov 17 18:47 | |
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gnufreex | I am not saying that Rolling releases are better. | Nov 17 18:47 |
gnufreex | Just saying that Fedora is not. | Nov 17 18:47 |
gnufreex | Rolling releases distros don't have real releases. Just snapshots one in a while | Nov 17 18:48 |
gnufreex | So you don't start with packages from 2005 and update. | Nov 17 18:48 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @tioduke Cracking SHA1 passwords on Amazon's new "Cluster GPU Instances" for only 2.10$ http://bit.ly/988tgq | Nov 17 18:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] working with small, family-run businesses in wedding planning has absolutely paid off | Nov 17 18:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @carlopiana It took much longer. | Nov 17 18:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Wow... When's the big day? | Nov 17 18:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @webmink @bkuhn which is why we must be careful with our phrasing if we are to be 100% correct - as we must or they will jump on it... | Nov 17 18:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I have just finished listening to !techbytes Episode 1, and to be honest I don't like the music that much. | Nov 17 18:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Kicking off in ten mins with my community and Ubuntu videocast - on us and bring questions to http://is.gd/hixHX #ubuntu #community | Nov 17 18:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Megafon Siberia implements Linux-based video call-centre' http://is.gd/hiHhO "...based entirely on open source software: OS Ubuntu Linux" | Nov 17 18:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Woohoo, new Orange Caramel video \o/ http://goo.gl/w9k6M :) | Nov 17 18:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me now for my live Ubuntu and Community Q+A videocast! http://is.gd/hixHX #ubuntu #community | Nov 17 19:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/415893/rss | Nov 17 19:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @sjsf #Cholera spreads from #Haiti to the #DominicanRepublic. CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/11/17/haiti.cholera/ | Nov 17 19:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @nhi Sick of [airporn] scanners? Ask your US state legislators to join the movement to stop them: http://bit.ly/9h9tt2 | Nov 17 19:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ufa: ♻ @alexcastrolll: Devemos aumentar a idade da aposentadoria? Esse é o melhor contra-argumento que já ouvi. http://bit.ly/d5GuUh | Nov 17 19:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Benchmarking ARM Tablets, Smart-Phones: When writing this morning about what's going on with Iveland and OpenBen... http://bit.ly/9XQUNQ | Nov 17 19:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Has airport security gone too far? http://on.wsj.com/cwfh4J #TSA | Nov 17 19:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Facebook Is Banning 'Fake' Women for Life http://gawker.com/5692443/ | Nov 17 19:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @rateldajer More on #c311 - Tory senators kill climate bill passed by House http://t.co/XZho4f9 #cdnpoli #astoundinghypocrisy | Nov 17 19:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @webmink I see. How much I owe you? ;-) | Nov 17 19:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn RAND is not bad per se, it's bad because "non discriminatory" is devoid of content and meaning, need precise rules: #Openstandard | Nov 17 19:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SecurityThreatre(R) is supposed to make ppl *feel* safer when boarding planes. Does having stranger grope junk really improve that feeling? | Nov 17 19:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Maybe it's time to generally challenge all sorts of 'security' mechanisms that are easy to circumvent & just offer goodfeel security. #cctv | Nov 17 19:33 | |
schestowitz | "@schestowitz @glynmoody ""HBase is proprietary" | Completely untrue: http://hbase.apache.org/ . Can't be more open. [...] Note @saintstack has been project lead from Powerset through MSFT to Stumble, so truly MSFT had HBase briefly [...] has been project lead from Powerset through MSFT to Stumble, so truly MSFT had HBase briefly" https://twitter.com/#!/akpurtell/status/4975133890449408 | Nov 17 19:34 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i am APPALLED that @CIRANEWS is promoting an "online census" to Canadians that doesn't reveal who is asking questions !Privacy !Canada | Nov 17 19:35 | |
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_Goblin | # | Nov 17 19:40 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: just getting little un off to sleep...then I'll be availabls | Nov 17 19:40 |
schestowitz | ok, cool | Nov 17 19:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Amazon Wants to Change the Way Movies Get Made - http://on.mash.to/cGYvUv changing the scale #films #amazon | Nov 17 19:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Drug companies 'exploiting rules to make exorbitant profits from NHS' http://ur1.ca/2dbc7 #bigpharma | Nov 17 19:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @webmink FSF already blacklisted RAND as confusing word: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#RAND | Nov 17 19:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Libre Graphics Magazine 1.1 http://lwn.net/Articles/415936/rss | Nov 17 19:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The !fsf is where proprietary software comes to be buried http://is.gd/hiRwI | Nov 17 19:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @quaid: Finally got around to making an #Epub version of #TOSW: ur1.ca/2dbgi | Nov 17 19:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ark74: RD @hound: ¿serías felíz en una prisión con todos los lujos imaginables? | Sabiendo que los tuyos estarán igual de "presos" :S | Nov 17 19:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @webmink @carlopiana, I've never seen #RAND terms that didn't leave open possibility of !GPL -incompatible on #swpats not yet licensed. | Nov 17 19:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: lol :) | Nov 17 20:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] People generally buy TVs that are to big. Must be a penis envy thing.... | Nov 17 20:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jargon with 172 dents! | Nov 17 20:00 | |
cubezzz | wow, there's over 350 billionaires now | Nov 17 20:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @coltem: Linux o GNU/Linux: non sono solo cavilli http://ur1.ca/2d9nm | Nov 17 20:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] A #q related to my motivations to work on sw freedom: ♻ @spot: "All that's necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." | Nov 17 20:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A few years ago Microsoft bragged about a research project that would record a person's every move. Misguided. Life's too short for reruns. | Nov 17 20:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me now for a live Severed Fifth videocast, update and more at http://is.gd/hiFT6 #severedfifth | Nov 17 20:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Now running 2.6.35.8-59.xsched1.fc14.x86_64 on my !F13 it is a little strange :-) | Nov 17 20:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Enough work. Now watching "The Promise: Making of Darkness on the Edge of Town". !Bruce | Nov 17 20:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn yes, similarly, you have never seen the oxygen fill just half of the room. You are right, that's the ubiquitous experience. | Nov 17 20:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @bkuhn A #q related to my motivations to work on sw freedom: ♻ @spot: "All that's necessary for the triumph of evil is that good m ... | Nov 17 20:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Craziest Guy on the Internets! http://is.gd/hiTxN hilarious! And he's serious. | Nov 17 20:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn A #q related to my motivations to work on sw freedom: ♻ @spot: "All that's necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ... | Nov 17 20:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ricardopontes: 2º GNUteco em Campinas http://miud.in/i1M Compareça! | Nov 17 20:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz if only Linux didn't work so hard to keep this statement true... :-( | Nov 17 20:10 | |
gnufreex | sebsebseb:QUESTION: How many of your questions Jono answered? (lol) | Nov 17 20:11 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: on identica you mean? | Nov 17 20:11 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: oh the ustream? | Nov 17 20:12 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: anyway I might not be that keen on Ubuntu anymore, but those are fun :) | Nov 17 20:12 |
gnufreex | I mean on those question show. | Nov 17 20:13 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: were yiou there taking part this time? | Nov 17 20:13 |
gnufreex | I watched. But didn't ask any. | Nov 17 20:13 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: I done them all except one since 30th June | Nov 17 20:13 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: or maybe two if there was one the UDS week, but no I don't think there was | Nov 17 20:13 |
gnufreex | I didn't comment anything. (nor asked) | Nov 17 20:14 |
gnufreex | Just watched. | Nov 17 20:14 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: turns out one of the guys asking questions, was a community memeber, but with another name there | Nov 17 20:14 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: hes doing his music one now, I just joined the room, and got it open in browser, but I don't care that much about that | Nov 17 20:14 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: only like 3rd time I am seeing one of those live or whatever | Nov 17 20:15 |
sebsebseb | anyway a dose of Ubuntu fan boys and such :D | Nov 17 20:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Your Guide to Navigating Airport Security With Ease http://gawker.com/5692346/ | Nov 17 20:15 | |
sebsebseb | ,but in a better way than say the big Ubuntu channel heh heh | Nov 17 20:15 |
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sebsebseb | gnufreex: yeah those that love Ubuntu | Nov 17 20:16 |
sebsebseb | and such | Nov 17 20:16 |
gnufreex | We are talking about the show that eded just half of hour ago | Nov 17 20:16 |
gnufreex | (don't know other one) | Nov 17 20:16 |
sebsebseb | I haven't listended to that yet | Nov 17 20:16 |
sebsebseb | oh | Nov 17 20:16 |
sebsebseb | yeah yeah | Nov 17 20:16 |
gnufreex | I just clicked on link on identica | Nov 17 20:16 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: yes theres a techbytes show now | Nov 17 20:16 |
gnufreex | But no live questions. | Nov 17 20:17 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: ,but jono does his weekly session on ustream q and a | Nov 17 20:17 |
sebsebseb | except when he is ill or whatever of course | Nov 17 20:17 |
gnufreex | Was this ustream? I didn't catch name. | Nov 17 20:17 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: yep he does his q and a on ustream | Nov 17 20:18 |
sebsebseb | gnufreex: also it wasn't half an hour ago when it ended :D ,but nearly | Nov 17 20:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 17/11/2010: Chrome OS and Android Explained, Linux 2.6.37-rc2 http://techrights.org/?p=42015 | Nov 17 20:18 | |
schestowitz | "Ah so thats what Exeter is doing these days http://bit.ly/9dk3au - I knew he didn't die in the crash http://imdb.to/doCHXU " https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/4987671277477888 | Nov 17 20:19 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope *LOL* | Nov 17 20:20 | |
Ender2070 | I grabbed scientific linux 6 alpha | Nov 17 20:20 |
Ender2070 | i still like fedora better | Nov 17 20:20 |
sebsebseb | Magea :D whe an ISO to test :D next month yay :) | Nov 17 20:21 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: didn't jono stop the usteam sessions or make them less frequent | Nov 17 20:21 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: nope | Nov 17 20:21 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: except for his band | Nov 17 20:22 |
schestowitz | I must have confused it with FLOSS Weekly and Shot of JAAAAAAACK | Nov 17 20:22 |
sebsebseb | this is the first band one for a little while now | Nov 17 20:22 |
schestowitz | OpenRespect.... what a gentleman :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAWAyJd9xD4 | Nov 17 20:23 |
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Ender2070 | Magea lol | Nov 17 20:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz heh. having private parts fondled == goodfeel security? :-) :-( | Nov 17 20:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] A friend told me I said something offensive a long time ago, but can't say what it was. I apologized, but it now all seems irreparable. :-/ | Nov 17 20:23 | |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: Mageia :) | Nov 17 20:24 |
sebsebseb | and also Fedora isn't only for eliteist people these days by the way :D | Nov 17 20:24 |
Ender2070 | I know | Nov 17 20:24 |
Ender2070 | Everyone should use Fedora | Nov 17 20:24 |
sebsebseb | altough I don't think it was when I did it as my first distro in 2004, but I coudn't go online with it since... ,but you know what I mean | Nov 17 20:24 |
sebsebseb | I think | Nov 17 20:24 |
MinceR | i think that distro developers and maintainers should use the distro they're working on | Nov 17 20:25 |
MinceR | at least some of the time :> | Nov 17 20:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh I hear Samsung has TVs that come with their own copies of the GPL on the manual ;-) | Nov 17 20:25 | |
sebsebseb | MinceR: yes is Fedora that? | Nov 17 20:25 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: I mean Ender2070 that? | Nov 17 20:25 |
MinceR | i don't understand but it was a reply to what Ender2070 said | Nov 17 20:25 |
sebsebseb | I think the people who are going to be doing offical community stuff for a distro or development, should be using it, quite a lot of the time | Nov 17 20:25 |
sebsebseb | so yeah I got to use Mageia now :) | Nov 17 20:26 |
sebsebseb | even if I find Mandriva better or something | Nov 17 20:26 |
sebsebseb | and yeah I mean after an ISO, I also think people like me should be testing development, so yep alpha 1 next month for me :) | Nov 17 20:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] TSA pats down 3 year old http://ur1.ca/2dbmv #pedophiles | Nov 17 20:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congressman John Mica, one of the authors of the TSA bill, hates the TSA in this post-9/11 world http://ur1.ca/2d4a9 | Nov 17 20:27 | |
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sebsebseb | anyway really I just use whatever distro I want to use at the time :) | Nov 17 20:27 |
sebsebseb | pretty much | Nov 17 20:27 |
Ender2070 | for me thats Fedora | Nov 17 20:27 |
sebsebseb | for me Fedora is meant to be going bye bye soon, since certain things | Nov 17 20:27 |
Ender2070 | it does exactly what I need it to do | Nov 17 20:27 |
sebsebseb | and to try out PC Linux OS on real hardware | Nov 17 20:27 |
Ender2070 | Fedoras not going anywhere | Nov 17 20:28 |
Ender2070 | what do you mean | Nov 17 20:28 |
Ender2070 | bye bye? | Nov 17 20:28 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: yes as in removing from this PC | Nov 17 20:28 |
Ender2070 | ohhh | Nov 17 20:28 |
Ender2070 | why | Nov 17 20:28 |
sebsebseb | well PCLOS is meant to be pretty good, from brief vm trying I wasn't that impressed | Nov 17 20:28 |
sebsebseb | ,but technically its meant to be very good, and won't really know for sure, unless I use it properly for a while | Nov 17 20:28 |
sebsebseb | and Fedora well | Nov 17 20:29 |
Ender2070 | its based on mandriva isnt it | Nov 17 20:29 |
sebsebseb | some of my kernels won't boot anymore, after doing Nivida, I told you about that already | Nov 17 20:29 |
sebsebseb | and Virtualbox uhmm can't just install that or whatever | Nov 17 20:29 |
sebsebseb | yes, but now days PCLOS is rather well differnet | Nov 17 20:29 |
Ender2070 | ohh strange | Nov 17 20:29 |
Ender2070 | i had to manually configure my xorg to fix my issues | Nov 17 20:29 |
sebsebseb | yeah removing the propritary Nivida driver, messed up some of my kernels from booting from Grub :( | Nov 17 20:30 |
Ender2070 | got it working though | Nov 17 20:30 |
Ender2070 | all it does to grub is add rdblacklist=nouveau | Nov 17 20:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] nesta sexta, 19/11, Dia do Software Livre na UNESP de Ilha Solteira http://ur1.ca/2dbnge | Nov 17 20:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman became famous 4 his work on the GPL, the most widely used software licence. But his political blog is good 2. stallman.org | Nov 17 20:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bill Nye collapsed during speech, I hope hes okay http://ur1.ca/2dbnx | Nov 17 20:30 | |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: and yes I may have to do something like that, I mean if I want to fix, but if I am going to replace with PCLOS soon anyway, not that much point I guess | Nov 17 20:30 |
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Ender2070 | I was talking with someone today who was complaining about PCLOS | Nov 17 20:31 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: right, I can call | Nov 17 20:31 |
Ender2070 | not always having packages he wanted | Nov 17 20:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] pondering an epic ep for !HPR, last nights ep didn't have the end right, this take is now 45min, which screams "too long" to me | Nov 17 20:32 | |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: from vm trying I don't like the theme of Gnome or KDE, and the branding, stuff can be changed ,but hmm | Nov 17 20:32 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: I mean I want to use Windows in a virtual machince on here soon, because of a stupid program on a DVD I got and its stupid anti piracy causing issues with Wine, even though its perfectly legal it was bought | Nov 17 20:32 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: and yeah I probably won't be that keen on PCLOS on real hardware, and I know it, so maybe well very near the end of November I do that, if I bother, I don't know | Nov 17 20:33 |
sebsebseb | I mean if I can fix my problems with Fedora :D | Nov 17 20:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Antimatter atoms produced and trapped at CERN http://ur1.ca/2dbo1 !science | Nov 17 20:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Very interesting stuff about the music industry and recording contracts in this movie... | Nov 17 20:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @lxoliva @fabsh I hear Samsung has TVs that come with their own copies of the GPL on the manual ;-) | Nov 17 20:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] MT @schestowitz Richard Stallman (@rms) became famous4 defining #GPL, most widely used software licence. But his blog is good 2 stallman.org | Nov 17 20:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle submits specs for Java 7 and 8 (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/9GTIfi | Nov 17 20:33 | |
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sebsebseb | Ender2070: I don't reall want to mess around quite a bit more with distros, I want to use my computer soon, for something proper, something I should have sorted out years ago realy | Nov 17 20:34 |
sebsebseb | I think all distros are a bit sucky at the moment, because big important changes are coming | Nov 17 20:35 |
sebsebseb | Gnome 3, Unity even, uhmm btrfs in more distros by default? | Nov 17 20:35 |
lightpriest | so much time of good developers is wasted on whether MS cheated on the SunSpider test or not, such a stupid debate could have been saved if the code was simply open... | Nov 17 20:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. Bruce definitely pulled that one off... | Nov 17 20:37 | |
Ender2070 | Fedora | Nov 17 20:37 |
sebsebseb | fan boy | Nov 17 20:38 |
sebsebseb | = | Nov 17 20:38 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: | Nov 17 20:38 |
sebsebseb | :D | Nov 17 20:38 |
Ender2070 | I finally migrated my server to it | Nov 17 20:38 |
Ender2070 | used to run ubuntu server | Nov 17 20:38 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: uh really? | Nov 17 20:38 |
sebsebseb | I thought you were anti Ubuntu? | Nov 17 20:38 |
Ender2070 | yeah I am | Nov 17 20:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] He was millions in debt? Jesus. No wonder there's a feeling of last record ever... | Nov 17 20:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh spinach? ack ack ack, I have had alls I cans stands, I just can't stands no more | Nov 17 20:38 | |
Ender2070 | I used to like it | Nov 17 20:38 |
sebsebseb | why not Debian or CentOS or something for the server then? | Nov 17 20:38 |
Ender2070 | thats when I made the server | Nov 17 20:38 |
sebsebseb | I mean instead of Ubuntu | Nov 17 20:39 |
Ender2070 | I used to like Ubuntu | Nov 17 20:39 |
sebsebseb | ok why not anymore? | Nov 17 20:39 |
Ender2070 | they added mono | Nov 17 20:39 |
Ender2070 | i've had this server for years | Nov 17 20:39 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: ok, but other than Mono | Nov 17 20:39 |
sebsebseb | and also a lot of the other distros do Mono by default as well | Nov 17 20:39 |
Ender2070 | i started liking Fedora more | Nov 17 20:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Case of point: "[T]here has been a world-wide move towards US-style expensive education." -- @rms http://is.gd/hiYlH | Nov 17 20:40 | |
schestowitz | _Goblin: cool | Nov 17 20:40 |
Ender2070 | its superior in every way | Nov 17 20:40 |
schestowitz | Hold ojn | Nov 17 20:40 |
Ender2070 | especially security | Nov 17 20:40 |
Ender2070 | SELinux owns crackers | Nov 17 20:41 |
schestowitz | just catching up w/ IRC | Nov 17 20:41 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin lacks Fedora expereince according to techbytes :D | Nov 17 20:41 |
_Goblin | yep | Nov 17 20:41 |
_Goblin | Im too happy with Sabayon to consider moving to a new distro for my main rig. | Nov 17 20:42 |
sebsebseb | oh Ender2070 oh my, how could you, I mean knowing _Goblin for all this time on IRC, but not converting him to Fedora :D | Nov 17 20:42 |
_Goblin | :) | Nov 17 20:42 |
Ender2070 | after being on fedora for years I got annoyed when I had to log in to my server and use ubuntu | Nov 17 20:42 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: yeah Sabayon is mean to be pretty good | Nov 17 20:42 |
_Goblin | I think if I had used it for a period of time, I'd probably be a user now (many people tell me how good it is) | Nov 17 20:42 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: its not quite how I remember it | Nov 17 20:43 |
sebsebseb | it was my first distro :) | Nov 17 20:43 |
sebsebseb | when it still used the Redhat logo :) | Nov 17 20:43 |
sebsebseb | and was called Fedora Core | Nov 17 20:43 |
Ender2070 | I've distro hopped for years | Nov 17 20:43 |
sebsebseb | its more like Ubuntu really, Fedora 13 and 14, even has Simple Scan as part of it, on the Fedora logo screensaver which is like the Ubuntu logo screensaver | Nov 17 20:43 |
Ender2070 | never stayed with one this long | Nov 17 20:44 |
sebsebseb | yep like Ubuntu | Nov 17 20:44 |
sebsebseb | except | Nov 17 20:44 |
sebsebseb | well theres more stuff in it for developers and such as well | Nov 17 20:44 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: however yeah Fedora = hype like Ubuntu, it really does | Nov 17 20:44 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: just not as much of it, and not the same kind | Nov 17 20:44 |
_Goblin | nothing wrong with hype if the product lives up to it. | Nov 17 20:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !UbuntuOne Blog: Ask Ubuntu http://goo.gl/ZcnOr | Nov 17 20:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Nye of 'The Science Guy' fame collapses during speech at USC [Updated] http://is.gd/hiZ8l "Nye was eventually removed from the stage." | Nov 17 20:45 | |
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MinceR | i rarely see products that live up to their hype | Nov 17 20:45 |
MinceR | if ever | Nov 17 20:45 |
*sebsebseb will be doing Mageia hype here and there it seems :D | Nov 17 20:45 | |
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sebsebseb | MinceR: indeed | Nov 17 20:45 |
_Goblin | and I think its about time Linux as a whole worked out that hype, PR is what propels Microsoft. If the Linux desktop does not engage in the same practices to an extent, then the voice of alternative never gets heard and people continue to suffer Windows. | Nov 17 20:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Nobody went to his aid [...] "Instead, I saw students texting and updating their Twitter statuses. | Nov 17 20:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Nobody went to his aid [...] "Instead, I saw students texting and updating their Twitter statuses." http://is.gd/hiZ8l generation Y | Nov 17 20:47 | |
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MinceR | not just m$, also crApple | Nov 17 20:47 |
_Goblin | I could create the best car in the world....if I don't market it, nobody will buy.... | Nov 17 20:47 |
MinceR | word-of-mouth would still work, but only on a small scale | Nov 17 20:47 |
_Goblin | MinceR: agreed, although I think word of mouth is a far stronger "advert" for a product than mere advertising....probably why Microsoft has advocates to try to create some. | Nov 17 20:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "It didn't have the words... I think I had 'Badlands'....." LOL | Nov 17 20:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @glynmoody @webmink @carlopiana, IMO & experience, nothing yet indicates http://ur1.ca/2dbr7 isn't still a correct characterization of #RAND | Nov 17 20:48 | |
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sebsebseb | _Goblin: uhmm really Linux distrso are meant to be Unix alternatives with software freedom :) it just happens though that in these past few years, many of them, are worth people using instead of Windows a lot of the time, most computer users even | Nov 17 20:49 |
MinceR | unix is what should have always been on PCs | Nov 17 20:49 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: of course most don't know that, but my point is, many people that use a Linux distro don't really understand what they are about | Nov 17 20:49 |
MinceR | ever since they were powerful enough to run it | Nov 17 20:49 |
MinceR | m$ managed to derail the market, and we need to correct that | Nov 17 20:49 |
cubezzz | even Microsoft had a Unix | Nov 17 20:50 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: and that ethos did no harm for Windows, since many of its users don't have a PC to learn how it works, they have a PC to use facebook et al | Nov 17 20:50 |
MinceR | i doubt m$ ever wanted Xenix to succeed | Nov 17 20:50 |
cubezzz | interestingly they stopped using it quite a long time ago | Nov 17 20:50 |
MinceR | afaik they didn't even really own it | Nov 17 20:50 |
*cubezzz nods | Nov 17 20:50 | |
MinceR | (never mind that they didn't really own DOS either, since it was stolen property) | Nov 17 20:50 |
sebsebseb | anyway I was in a channel uhmm yesterday evening / last night | Nov 17 20:50 |
cubezzz | I wonder how much they paid AT&T for a license | Nov 17 20:51 |
sebsebseb | and there was some girl or whatever, going on about anti virus, asking what a good one would be for her Mum | Nov 17 20:51 |
sebsebseb | and I started talking Linux to some guys there :) and I was basicaly told not to talk OS, but when we mentioned a way to keep WIndows more secure without that, then this person was more interested | Nov 17 20:51 |
cubezzz | bah | Nov 17 20:51 |
MinceR | :> | Nov 17 20:51 |
cubezzz | many other OSes to try | Nov 17 20:51 |
sebsebseb | ,but they had to leave or whatever, before I nearly gave a link to a program, however sandboxing is a bit pointless, if the OS is already taken over by the bad guys | Nov 17 20:52 |
sebsebseb | of course | Nov 17 20:52 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This movie is amazing! @methoddan has to see this!! | Nov 17 20:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] AMD Catalyst 10.11 Linux Driver Released: As was pointed out in our forums, the AMD Catalyst 10.11 Linux driver ... http://bit.ly/aoskel | Nov 17 20:52 | |
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schestowitz | [20:39] <Ender2070> they added mono | Nov 17 20:52 |
sebsebseb | ,but yeah some people, its like I don't really care about computers, whats a good anti virus, whats a good anti vrus, and then if you say there something better than anti virus, then they might suddenly be kind of interested hmm | Nov 17 20:52 |
schestowitz | I don't think that's true | Nov 17 20:52 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: thas a big part of the problem right there, most computer users don't care enough about their computer, to make sure its rather secure, and they also think anti virus is enough, when it really isn't | Nov 17 20:53 |
schestowitz | They put it there like many others. If they add Banshee (not final), then it's bad, sure... but they tossed fspot | Nov 17 20:53 |
cubezzz | anti-virus is good for warming up cpu | Nov 17 20:53 |
MinceR | schestowitz: they also added bìng in disguise | Nov 17 20:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] recording another !tb episode shortly. We get well over 2000 ogg requests per day now | Nov 17 20:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @webmink, IMO responding to a respectful policy debate as if the debater lost on a game show isn't most (shall we say?) "human" way to act. | Nov 17 20:53 | |
MinceR | (or at least they tried hard) | Nov 17 20:54 |
schestowitz | [20:45] <_Goblin> nothing wrong with hype if the product lives up to it. | Nov 17 20:54 |
schestowitz | Does that quialify as "Hype" then? | Nov 17 20:54 |
sebsebseb | cubezzz: heh yeah exactly, anti virus is rather pointless, it doesn't stop the bad programs getting on their in the first place, and the correct malware on there, and thats it, cyber criminals use the computer as well, and it will still be the case, when the virus is removed. anyway I been trying to explain this every now and again to someone online, this year, but he still doesn't get it :( | Nov 17 20:54 |
Ender2070 | theres alot of reasons I dislike ubuntu though | Nov 17 20:55 |
Ender2070 | I find it inferior | Nov 17 20:55 |
Ender2070 | lots of software shipped is older | Nov 17 20:55 |
MinceR | "if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it." | Nov 17 20:55 |
Ender2070 | its easier for me to audit when its fedora because i've learned it | Nov 17 20:55 |
sebsebseb | Newer is not always better, but yeah I know what you mean | Nov 17 20:55 |
cubezzz | exactly so | Nov 17 20:55 |
sebsebseb | cubezzz: @ me or? | Nov 17 20:56 |
cubezzz | generally speaking OSes of all types are getting more and more bloated | Nov 17 20:56 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: cubezzz loves his Fedora Core 1 or whatever he is using | Nov 17 20:56 |
Ender2070 | :D | Nov 17 20:56 |
Ender2070 | lol | Nov 17 20:56 |
MinceR | or they're getting more featureful | Nov 17 20:56 |
MinceR | and they're finding ways to use the growing power of the hardware | Nov 17 20:56 |
Ender2070 | fedora is getting the official go compiler soon | Nov 17 20:56 |
MinceR | (then again, usually they end up wasting it instead) | Nov 17 20:56 |
Ender2070 | someone is working on it | Nov 17 20:56 |
Ender2070 | :D | Nov 17 20:56 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: seriously he is using an old version of Fedora, with his own updates or whatever | Nov 17 20:56 |
Ender2070 | yeah he is | Nov 17 20:56 |
Ender2070 | he rebuilds a lot of the code | Nov 17 20:57 |
*MinceR gives Ender2070 a chess compiler | Nov 17 20:57 | |
_Goblin | schestowitz: I read anything positive as "hype" until I experience it myself. | Nov 17 20:57 |
MinceR | ^_^ | Nov 17 20:57 |
Ender2070 | no, a Google Go compiler | Nov 17 20:57 |
Ender2070 | not the game | Nov 17 20:57 |
Ender2070 | the language | Nov 17 20:57 |
*sebsebseb when am I going to see some sort of art work from a LUG this week, if I bother hmm | Nov 17 20:57 | |
*MinceR was playing with words | Nov 17 20:58 | |
cubezzz | I'm not even the most extreme in using old OS, I know people who swear by Linux 2.0 kernel | Nov 17 20:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !q "Like pulling parts off one car to build another." - Bruce Springsteen on songwriting | Nov 17 20:58 | |
sebsebseb | oh yeah Wednesday | Nov 17 20:59 |
sebsebseb | its about to be the Apprentice | Nov 17 20:59 |
cubezzz | Paul Allen has an ancient computer he uses | Nov 17 20:59 |
cubezzz | sebsebseb I also use BL3 which is based on Slack 4, roughly 1999 era | Nov 17 21:01 |
cubezzz | Allen had... PDP-10 I think | Nov 17 21:02 |
cubezzz | http://www.pdpplanet.com | Nov 17 21:02 |
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Ender2070 | later | Nov 17 21:11 |
Ender2070 | i gtg | Nov 17 21:11 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I have been playing #Minecraft all day. It may look 8 bit, it is bloody good | Nov 17 21:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EDRi_org: EDRi-gram 8.22: ENDitorial: Net neutrality - wait and see the end of the open Internet http://bit.ly/cWjZmP | Nov 17 21:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @johnkoetsier: Now You Can Edit Google Docs on iPad, iPhone and Android http://gizmo.do/9UkQ0k | Nov 17 21:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: TeamViewer Beta 6 is now out, remote control freaks rejoice http://bit.ly/9dhp8I | Nov 17 21:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mapopa: RT @fiiliber Carcalaci Pac-Man cu Inkscape pe #fiiliber http://ur1.ca/2dax8 | Nov 17 21:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] DefectiveByDesign.org is a anti-DRM campaign that is targeting Big Media, unhelpful manufacturers and DRM distributors. - http://is.gd/gSrdB | Nov 17 21:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @novitro: Pe blog: Solutii de virtualizare pentru consolidarea serviciilor http://bit.ly/9fMnNB | Nov 17 21:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 'Megafon Siberia implements Linux-based video call-centre' http://is.gd/hiHhO "...based entirely on open source software: OS Ubuntu Linux" | Nov 17 21:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x11r5 Man it has acquired sentience | Nov 17 21:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "It was unheard of not putting a song that great on a record." | Nov 17 21:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] You can make two changes at once and see the outcome if you fold the 5th dimension through the 6th. But not everyone wants to. | Nov 17 21:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn are you sure this friend said it was #offensive ? | Nov 17 21:35 | |
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hello comrads | Nov 17 21:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,maybe #offensive was my assumption. I've a hard time on boundaries btw "poor word choice", #inappropriate, #offensive & #disturbing | Nov 17 21:37 | |
there's some serious but sneaky FUD in this PCPro article http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/11/17/the-best-netbook-os-xp-windows-7-or-ubuntu/ | Nov 17 21:37 | |
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It gets demolished in comments. | Nov 17 21:37 | |
First off, they compare Ubuntu's brand new netbook interface rather than a more mature offering. | Nov 17 21:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows powering one in ten HPC clusters--but not top supercomputers (Network World): http://bit.ly/bYPNZM | Nov 17 21:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Nvidia chief scientist: CPUs slowed by legacy design (Network World): http://bit.ly/aKh1kK | Nov 17 21:38 | |
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They then compare strictly Windows workloads and nasty non free software, but ignore many known Windows 7 annoyances like poor battery life. | Nov 17 21:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft may turn to Windows Phone 7 for its tablet operating system http://is.gd/hjaBc #microsoft #wp7 | Nov 17 21:40 | |
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Given all of those advantages, the best they can do is make Windows 7 look like Ubuntu's equal, ha ha. | Nov 17 21:40 | |
A more fair comparison would be to use a netbook that comes with Ubuntu on it out of the box and compare that to the Windows 7 starter edition that also comes out of the box, then compare something like ODF performance. | Nov 17 21:42 | |
David Staples Says: | Nov 17 21:43 | |
November 17th, 2010 at 12:24 pm | Nov 17 21:43 | |
Ubuntu runs like an Olympic sprinter on my Samsung Q33 when compared to the doddery, half-dead Windows XP that came with it. | Nov 17 21:43 | |
You must have screwed up the installation somehow. | Nov 17 21:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] How does CC alter collaboration&sharing? http://bit.ly/dnDV5e part of series on CC #economics social welfare impact | Nov 17 21:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: RT @TechJournalist: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Aims For Government-Ready Security - LinuxPlanet http://bit.ly/9sKjgC | Nov 17 21:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The Linux desktop may soon be a lot faster http://is.gd/hjbUP #gnu #linux | Nov 17 21:45 | |
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I have to agree with David because I'm using an older laptop that's basically a netbook daily. What's more is that Xandros, for all of its faults, is even faster and does the non free Flash and other Trash PCPro craves. | Nov 17 21:46 | |
W. Anderson Says: | Nov 17 21:47 | |
November 17th, 2010 at 3:07 pm | Nov 17 21:47 | |
I have made timing test on Asus eeePC with Ubuntu 10.10 netbook version against pre-installed Windows XP. | Nov 17 21:47 | |
My results were different, resulting in Ubuntu boot times significantly faster, and applications startup equally faster on Ubuntu. | Nov 17 21:47 | |
I used AbiWord instead of OpenOffice, and Google Chrome for browser, both of which are more suited to low power computer. | Nov 17 21:47 | |
What does this mean for these small, individual test? Everyone consumer tester I used concluded that Ubuntu was aesthetically cleaner, and “appeared” to them to be more responsive. | Nov 17 21:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Virtual Users And Domains With Postfix, Courier, MySQL And SquirrelMail (Ubuntu 10.10) http://is.gd/hjc9U | Nov 17 21:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How to draw the little Pac-Man guys in Inkscape http://is.gd/hjcD4 #inkscape #gnu #linux | Nov 17 21:48 | |
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W. Anderson Says: I have made timing test on Asus eeePC with Ubuntu 10.10 netbook version against pre-installed Windows XP. | Nov 17 21:49 | |
My results were different, resulting in Ubuntu boot times significantly faster, and applications startup equally faster on Ubuntu. | Nov 17 21:49 | |
I used AbiWord instead of OpenOffice, and Google Chrome for browser, both of which are more suited to low power computer. | Nov 17 21:49 | |
What does this mean for these small, individual test? Everyone consumer tester I used concluded that Ubuntu was aesthetically cleaner, and “appeared” to them to be more responsive. | Nov 17 21:49 | |
It seems that Anderson saw about the same thing too... | Nov 17 21:49 | |
MalFal Says: It’ll be interesting how Ubuntu fares after the new scheduling patch is in. It’s supposed to give an incredible performance boost. I hope testing is redone with the updated kernel when it’s available. | Nov 17 21:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I feel privileged to live alongside such a great musician. I wish I would've been born to see the Darkness tour. What wonderful music... | Nov 17 21:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bruce wrote the soundtrack to my life. That is all... | Nov 17 21:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] RT @pietercolpaert «You can freely distribute this package as I do not believe in imaginary property.» #q Hanno Rein | Nov 17 21:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @webmink: Would you agree that rand terms leading to rf are so scarce that it's existance, though acknowledgeable, isn't representative? | Nov 17 21:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Where can I find a list of yet unmerged !linux patches? I wanna get the cool stuff that didn't make it for .37. | Nov 17 21:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @fontana RT @x11r5 Man it has acquired sentience | Nov 17 21:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] "I'm going to have to let you go" #TheApprentice | Nov 17 22:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Oh, I hope he's ok. I loved his show. | Nov 17 22:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] Having fun with #cryptcat !crypto !cypherpunk | Nov 17 22:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @mairin @jonobacon #Ubuntu isn't interested in users of other ( #GNU ) #Linux distros? | Nov 17 22:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] 12 Open Source Android Applications Worth Checking Out http://ur1.ca/2dc9e !android | Nov 17 22:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 And I always have been a RPM guy... ;-) | Nov 17 22:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @bkuhn: I don't believe you really lost a friend there... | Nov 17 22:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The history of Version Control (SCM blog): http://bit.ly/cFtzCk | Nov 17 22:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: PC World: "3 More Reasons Not to Use Facebook Messages" http://bit.ly/ahCHUU #microsoft #office | Nov 17 22:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install Gnome2 Globalmenu In Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat http://bit.ly/cORe7U | Nov 17 22:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: RT @arnaud_thurudev: TGV : l’accès à Internet à 320 Km/h, par Wifi et sans coupure http://bit.ly/bvm3ld | Nov 17 22:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] if only snark could be used as fuel, we could solve this global energy crisis.... | Nov 17 22:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @HPLinux: HP+#Linux+ #AMDOCS set new benchmark for BHCA http://bit.ly/cpSL59 | Nov 17 22:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] iPad's business use soars as HP backpedals on Slate's fit (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/chIWv9 | Nov 17 22:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NY youth makes $130k selling real(-ish) white iPhone 4s (El Reg): http://bit.ly/a8Kh5l | Nov 17 22:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] for the record, this is the first time i've ever booted ubuntu | Nov 17 22:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] QMLSaver Is A Nice Clock Screensaver For Ubuntu http://bit.ly/9DxyPy | Nov 17 22:57 | |
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MinceR | gn | Nov 17 23:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] The next Ubuntu Global Jam is 1st - 3rd April 2011 - http://is.gd/hju2o - let's make this rock! #ubuntu #locoteams #ugj Please RT | Nov 17 23:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn Come off it, Bradley. This is not a formal venue and that was what's called "humour" in these parts. Leave the PC for others. | Nov 17 23:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @ruiseabra No, I don't think so. RAND terms are ubiquitous in standards yet they still get implemented as FOSS. | Nov 17 23:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Mozilla Labs Night “Gaming Special” comes to London http://mzl.la/bvolVa | Nov 17 23:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Fascinated I posted a rant against RAND and still have people here behave like I am defending it. | Nov 17 23:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn Isn't that essentially what I said in my article though? | Nov 17 23:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @bkuhn generally, yes, but it can be crafted in abnormal ways to be compatible - http://bit.ly/cqfvPc | Nov 17 23:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @webmink, I may have misread. My take-away was: "sometimes, #RAND works out for FLOSS, but usually doesn't." I don't agree w/ nuance. | Nov 17 23:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @glynmoody, It's tough to get FLOSS hackers to follow patent licensing nuances, so simplifications help, ala "#RAND = #problematic" | Nov 17 23:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @glynmoody @webmink, my 1st yr CS teacher said: "We must lie a little here" b/c the nuances required prereqs we didn't have. Similar here. | Nov 17 23:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I have to disclose that @davidmarsden and @andyc are among my favorite identica denters | Nov 17 23:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] back in the crib. proverbial early wednesday | Nov 17 23:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn No. I assert RAND is the genetic marker for the opportunity for malpractice even if it does sometimes work out OK. | Nov 17 23:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @webmink: Yes, but so are many strongly patent encumbered formats and protocols implemented as !fs... just look at mono or moonlight | Nov 17 23:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn However, I believe a straight attack on "RAND" is easily refuted and sadly enemies of software freedom are now doing so. | Nov 17 23:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn RAND=Problematic is the correct flagging. "RAND is incompatible with GPL" is not. | Nov 17 23:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @webmink: I don't think you defend rand, quite the opposite :) | Nov 17 23:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @ruiseabra Just saying the problem is not RAND per se but what it permits, so our drive to eliminate RAND should focus on that & not RAND. | Nov 17 23:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @hook: The biggest threat to creative artists is not #piracy, but #obscurity: http://ur1.ca/2dcqy ; that's true! | Nov 17 23:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Basketball Prodigy Brings Hoop Dreams to India | Playbook http://ur1.ca/2dctd | Nov 17 23:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @webmink: focus on upstream problem, no software patents equals no rand issues ;) | Nov 17 23:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Căsătoria şi alternativele posibile. Pe calea împlinirii şi sfinţeniei http://is.gd/hjCyD | Nov 17 23:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gtktoolkit: WIP Porting guide to migrate from GTK+2 to GTK+3: http://ur1.ca/1xbzs #gnu #linux | Nov 17 23:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @ruiseabra Let's do both. Making them useless is second best to stopping them existing... | Nov 17 23:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @fcouchet: Des appels d'offres informatiques excluent explicitement le Logiciel Libre http://ur1.ca/2dcsy l'April et le CNLL réagissent | Nov 17 23:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Warner Bros. vows to prosecute Deathly Hallows leaker http://ur1.ca/2dcva | Nov 17 23:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] LibreOffice: "It is wrong to blame Oracle" http://is.gd/hjEYh #libreoffice #ooo | Nov 17 23:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Debian 6.0 Squeeze Release Update | Debian News" from http://news.debian.net/2010/11/17/debian-6-0-squeeze-release-update/ | Nov 17 23:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Slashdot Science Story | Bacteria Used To Fix Cracked Concrete" from http://ur1.ca/2dcwn | Nov 17 23:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "BBC News - Minister Ed Vaizey backs 'two-speed' internet" from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11773574 #sucks | Nov 17 23:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Debt collectors utilize Facebook to embarrass those who owe http://www.wtsp.com/news/mostpop/story.aspx?storyid=156762 | Nov 17 23:55 | |
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