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schestowitz[23:51] <gnufreex> That guy want no put Mono in GNOME. And he now works for ColaboraNov 24 00:00
schestowitzNot surprisingNov 24 00:00
schestowitzIt's not like it's Red Hat or the FSFNov 24 00:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @rysiek: I totally agree. It may even make me go back to #Ubuntu, or at least split my allegiance :)Nov 24 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @creativecommons Apply for the 2011 Google Policy Fellowship with Creative Commons - http://goo.gl/kCtyCNov 24 00:06
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gnubiegnufreex: I hope you are right, but somehow I doubt itNov 24 00:07
gnubiethey are scheming trollsNov 24 00:08
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gnufreexgnubie: At Red hat, they will either do FOSS way, or they can pack their bags. And RH employees can't run their mouth as they please.Nov 24 00:09
gnufreexThey could do more damage in small companies, where they can change the culture.Nov 24 00:10
gnubiethen lets hope canonical doesn't hire themNov 24 00:10
gnufreexThat's what I fear the most.Nov 24 00:10
gnubiethey don't seem opposed to hiring mono boosters eitherNov 24 00:11
gnubiepeople like that gnome-don't guyNov 24 00:11
gnubieand a few others that push bansheeNov 24 00:11
schestowitzand former MSFTerNov 24 00:12
gnubieexactlyNov 24 00:12
schestowitzVisual Studio dev IIRCNov 24 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 265 Project Day 10: Open DoorsNov 24 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 10: Open Doors http://ur1.ca/2f09mNov 24 00:13
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gnubielolNov 24 00:14
gnubielook at miguel icaza desperately try to push monodevelop even nowNov 24 00:14
gnubiehttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-22.htmlNov 24 00:14
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gnubieand moonlieNov 24 00:14
gnufreexWhat, canonical hired VS dev? How did I miss that :-/Nov 24 00:15
gnubiehttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-23.htmlNov 24 00:15
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gnubiedesperately trying to remain afloatNov 24 00:15
gnubiethe end is near mvp icazaNov 24 00:16
gnufreexThey are true Microsoft zealots. Wont give on dead tech... like those DECheads who are witting FreeVMS now.. just this is crappy tech compared to VMS.Nov 24 00:18
gnubieyepNov 24 00:19
gnufreexI don't get what this Van Hoof's short posts mean.Nov 24 00:20
gnubieprobably because w/o m$ tech they couldn't do anythingNov 24 00:21
gnubiethey are so dependent on drag&drop programmingNov 24 00:21
gnufreexSo now their fingers hurt from typing... lolNov 24 00:21
gnubie"how do I make a button? I can't just drag it and double-click it to write all the code for me??"Nov 24 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc3-git1 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernelNov 24 00:23
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gnubiereal programmers would never use mono or monodevelopNov 24 00:23
gnubieonly wannabe programmers with no skillsNov 24 00:23
gnufreexReal programmers use Emacs :-)Nov 24 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith Microsoft is a cancer that attachmates itself, in an extortion sense, to everything it touches.Nov 24 00:26
gnubieyepNov 24 00:27
gnubieand cNov 24 00:27
jonognubie, you think it is unreasonable that I congratulate someone on getting a new job?Nov 24 00:29
jonoseems perfectly reasonable to meNov 24 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Musical impulse | Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://www.flickr.com/photos/shankru85/5161871880/Nov 24 00:29
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schestowitzthis person called Tim a "cunt"Nov 24 00:29
schestowitzAnd he curse me tooNov 24 00:29
schestowitzTell me to "fuck ***"Nov 24 00:29
jonohe has always been fine with meNov 24 00:29
schestowitzThat's not the testNov 24 00:30
schestowitzYou'd say the same about the ACCESS trollNov 24 00:30
jonoI have no reason to have issues with directhexNov 24 00:30
schestowitz[00:29] <jono> he has always been fine with meNov 24 00:30
jonoand I have personally never seen any misconduct from himNov 24 00:30
schestowitzSaid WW2 Germans about their fuhrer tooNov 24 00:30
schestowitzThat's a false testNov 24 00:30
jonobit of a stretch roy, comparing directhex to the nazi regime in GermanyNov 24 00:31
schestowitzYou have to see if a person/govt mistreats othersNov 24 00:31
schestowitzjono: I know it's a stretch, couldn't think of another example quicklyNov 24 00:31
gnubiejono: all mono boosters mistreat othersNov 24 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #math exam in a bit. channeling my #chi with #ambientNov 24 00:31
gnubiethat is the way they areNov 24 00:31
gnubieif you don't see it then you are blindNov 24 00:31
jonoif you have a beef with him, so be it, I am not saying you are wrong, but I am not going to have issues with him unless I see this behaviourNov 24 00:31
schestowitzHe associated me with death wishes to Microsoft employeesNov 24 00:32
jonognubie, depends on your view, I don't have that much of a big deal with mono folks, but I understand you disagreeNov 24 00:32
schestowitzBy linking to anonymous commentsNov 24 00:32
schestowitzjono: good luck to Collabra with HR 101 disaster...Nov 24 00:32
jonoschestowitz again, I am not denying your experiences, but I until I see this kind of behaviour myself, I get on fine with himNov 24 00:32
schestowitzSureNov 24 00:32
schestowitzHe needs CanonicalNov 24 00:32
jonono one needs canonical, lolNov 24 00:33
schestowitzLike when he shoves .NET into itNov 24 00:33
schestowitzjono: sure he doesNov 24 00:33
jono"he" doesnt shove .net into canonicalNov 24 00:33
schestowitzHe's being displomaticNov 24 00:33
schestowitzHe didNov 24 00:33
jonothe TB make decisions about mono policy, you know thatNov 24 00:33
schestowitzIt's archives in the mailing listsNov 24 00:33
schestowitzI can give you URLsNov 24 00:33
schestowitzjono: you heard about Novell, right?Nov 24 00:33
jonoschestowitz no single person has "forced" Mono into ubuntuNov 24 00:33
schestowitzDo you still choose not to quite comment?Nov 24 00:34
schestowitzNovell owns Mono, Microsoft tooNov 24 00:34
jonothere are fans of Mono, sure, but no-one has "forced" it inNov 24 00:34
schestowitzMono 2.8 has Microsoft copyrights in itNov 24 00:34
schestowitzDid you know that?Nov 24 00:34
jonoI did hear about the Novell news, and we discussed this yesterdayNov 24 00:34
schestowitzMS-PLNov 24 00:34
schestowitzjono: we did notNov 24 00:34
jonoand my view hasn't changed - I will form an opinion when I see hard evidence to suggest there is a threatNov 24 00:34
schestowitzYou avoided discussing itNov 24 00:34
schestowitzAnd I respcted itNov 24 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Wrote a bit about !elmdentica on http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/ElmdenticaNov 24 00:34
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jonoI didn't aboid itNov 24 00:34
jonoavoidNov 24 00:34
jonoitNov 24 00:34
schestowitzYou can still choose not to talk about it, fair enoughNov 24 00:34
jonoI have nothing to sayNov 24 00:34
schestowitzWhat do you think of the patent sale?Nov 24 00:35
jono<jono> and my view hasn't changed - I will form an opinion when I see hard evidence to suggest there is a threatNov 24 00:35
jonoI think software patent ssuckNov 24 00:35
schestowitzI'm not probing, just  asking in a friendly fahiomnNov 24 00:35
jonoand the idea of selling them sucksNov 24 00:35
schestowitzNovell sold themNov 24 00:35
schestowitzIt has Microsoft folks in the boardNov 24 00:35
jonobut many companies have patents, not just Novell and MSNov 24 00:35
schestowitzNovell didn't mind giving Microsoft weaponsNov 24 00:35
jonohaving patents is one thing, using them is anotherNov 24 00:35
gnubienovell sold them so m$ could finish what they started w/ the m$-novell dealNov 24 00:35
gnubieso they can destroy linuxNov 24 00:35
schestowitzCanonical would not do this under MarkS' watchNov 24 00:35
gnubieor tryNov 24 00:35
jonognubie, I doubt itNov 24 00:36
schestowitzThey can agitateNov 24 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm guessing !Ubuntu will still have to put out CDs every year or so and maybe ISOs twice a year?Nov 24 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] B-b-b-b-bird, the bird is the word. And it's in my fridge.Nov 24 00:36
schestowitzjono: I'll explain more tomorrowNov 24 00:36
jonookNov 24 00:36
gnubiejono: only because you refuse to see the truthNov 24 00:36
schestowitzAnyway, Novell helped Microsoft againNov 24 00:36
schestowitzAgainst LinuxNov 24 00:36
schestowitzFor $$$Nov 24 00:36
jonognubie, not really, I just don't agree with youNov 24 00:36
jonoI don't see the level of risk you doNov 24 00:36
schestowitzAnd Novell's staff/board members give a clue as to whyNov 24 00:36
jonobut we can disagree, we are cool :-)Nov 24 00:37
gnubiehow can you disagree with the facts??Nov 24 00:37
jonognubie, so you have facts to say MS wants to "destroy Linux"?Nov 24 00:37
schestowitzIt doesNov 24 00:37
gnubieyes, the holloween documentsNov 24 00:37
schestowitzIt says soNov 24 00:37
jonothe halloween docs were *years* agoNov 24 00:37
schestowitzIt's its obligation to shareholdersNov 24 00:37
jonoschestowitz where is documented that it's obligation to it's shareholders is to "distroy Linux"Nov 24 00:38
schestowitzjono: don't like them schmooze youNov 24 00:38
cubezzznothing can destroy linux reallyNov 24 00:38
gnubiejono: also they attack android and tomtom with patentsNov 24 00:38
schestowitzThey send you freebie softwareNov 24 00:38
schestowitzWhich you then thank them for publiclyNov 24 00:38
jonoit's only obligiation is it's fiduciary duty to it's shareholdersNov 24 00:38
schestowitzAnd now you can't state the obvious about them?Nov 24 00:38
schestowitzThey do want to destroy Linux, they have toNov 24 00:38
jonognubie, don't get me wrong, MS make some *stupid* decisions, but I don't think they want to destroy LinuxNov 24 00:38
jonoif MS wanted to destroy anyone it is AppleNov 24 00:38
schestowitzWhat they do with you is a non-starterNov 24 00:38
cubezzzcan Microsoft "destroy" FreeDOS? Nope :)Nov 24 00:38
jonothey have more market share and competitive risk to MS than anything we doNov 24 00:39
cubezzzbut they destroyed DrDOSNov 24 00:39
schestowitz"We need to smile at Novell while we pull the trigger." -Former Microsoft VP James Allchin in a 09-9-91 e-mail (as revealed in Caldera v. Microsoft)Nov 24 00:39
jonoschestowitz of course they have ballsy internal mails about destroying competitors, all companies doNov 24 00:39
schestowitz[00:38] <jono> if MS wanted to destroy anyone it is AppleNov 24 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I give up #mkgmapNov 24 00:39
schestowitzRed HerringNov 24 00:39
cubezzzthey did kind of kill NovellNov 24 00:39
schestowitzThey bought itNov 24 00:39
schestowitzWhat's of use in itNov 24 00:40
schestowitzAnd can be legally acquired without antitrustNov 24 00:40
schestowitzAnd jono, I was right about NovellNov 24 00:40
cubezzzFreeDOS rules btwNov 24 00:40
jonoschestowitz okNov 24 00:40
cubezzzjust sayin' :)Nov 24 00:40
schestowitzAnd people who challenged me over it would have a VERY hard time now proving they were righgNov 24 00:40
jonowell, personally, I don't really like MS's tactics and strategy, but I don't think they are out to destroy LinuxNov 24 00:40
jonobut we will agree to disagreeNov 24 00:40
jonoI have to get onNov 24 00:40
jonotake care, folks!Nov 24 00:40
gnubiekeep hiding your head in the sand jonoNov 24 00:41
schestowitzjono: if Novell was not hindered, Microsoft could now capture a leading Linux distro or *the* leading oneNov 24 00:41
jonognubie, not really, just more important things to do than debating things I have no idea about :-)Nov 24 00:41
cubezzzbtw, what happens to Novell's Linux distro now?Nov 24 00:41
jonoI don't work for MS I have no idea of their intentionsNov 24 00:41
jonoand I am not a punditNov 24 00:41
schestowitzjono: it's a major topiNov 24 00:41
schestowitzRead articlesNov 24 00:41
schestowitzAllocated some timeNov 24 00:41
jonoso I am going to do something more useful and try and make Ubuntu betterNov 24 00:41
schestowitzGroklaw has an article tooNov 24 00:41
schestowitzInternalise theseNov 24 00:41
jonoschestowitz honestly, I don't really care that muchNov 24 00:42
schestowitz[00:41] <jono> so I am going to do something more useful and try and make Ubuntu betterNov 24 00:42
schestowitzSomeimes it's not enoughNov 24 00:42
schestowitzNot always will better products winNov 24 00:42
schestowitzNot when you rival bribes or breaks your stuffNov 24 00:42
jonoI care about risk to Linux, but I don't see this as signficant enough of a risk to care more than I do todayNov 24 00:42
schestowitzOr worse, when it sues you with 0 evidenceNov 24 00:42
schestowitzSo I know what you meanNov 24 00:42
gnubieI hope M$ sues canonical first, so jono can wake up and smell the coffeeNov 24 00:42
schestowitzBut realistically, you must pay attentionNov 24 00:43
jonognubie, well, thanksNov 24 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I *hate* working with C++Nov 24 00:43
schestowitz"Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone." -RMSNov 24 00:43
jonook guys, I am done, I have to get onNov 24 00:43
jonohave funNov 24 00:43
schestowitzwill doNov 24 00:43
gnubieyep, I willNov 24 00:43
schestowitzgnubie: Ballmer threatened CanonicalNov 24 00:43
schestowitzAsked them to sign a patent dealNov 24 00:43
gnubieI am not surprisedNov 24 00:43
schestowitzMArkS refusedNov 24 00:43
schestowitzBut Ballmer didn't sueNov 24 00:43
schestowitzNow they have something to sue withNov 24 00:43
gnubieyepNov 24 00:44
schestowitzSo Canonical will have to take the head out of the sandNov 24 00:44
gnubieyepNov 24 00:44
schestowitzFrantically remove mono traps and get its things together at the legal teamNov 24 00:44
schestowitzGroklaw criticised Canonical for itNov 24 00:44
schestowitzParticularly, the legal teamNov 24 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] The Intel Fortran compiler is called iFort #iGiveUpNov 24 00:44
gnubietoo bad Red Hat didn't buy up those Novell patentsNov 24 00:44
schestowitzSaying it would only respond when issue arises (=lawsuit)Nov 24 00:44
gnubieto kep them away from M$Nov 24 00:44
schestowitzYeahBNov 24 00:45
schestowitzBut Red Hat couldn't knowNov 24 00:45
schestowitzAnd the board of Novell was in Microsoft's pantsNov 24 00:45
gnubiewell, I kinda thought it was obvious M$ might try thisNov 24 00:45
schestowitzThey would befriend Microsoft, not Red HatNov 24 00:45
gnubiewe all thought M$ was behind ElliotNov 24 00:45
schestowitzgnubie: some said Microsoft was biddingNov 24 00:45
schestowitzI guess they realised they needed a vulture fund to avoid FTC visitNov 24 00:45
gnubieyepNov 24 00:46
schestowitzElliot is a Singer frontNov 24 00:46
schestowitzhe's one heck of a white-collar criminalNov 24 00:46
gnubiebut even if Novell were buddy-buddy with M$, they'd have to sell to the highest bidderNov 24 00:46
schestowitzShould be in prison for what he did in the underprivileged worldNov 24 00:46
schestowitzBut laws are written by rich men like him to keep their adversaries in prisonNov 24 00:46
schestowitzNot the other way aroundNov 24 00:46
gnubieschestowitz: ever notice a pattern with these Novell peeps?Nov 24 00:46
schestowitzWho?Nov 24 00:47
gnubieall unethical and immoralNov 24 00:47
gnubieNovell ,MS, Elliot, etcNov 24 00:47
gnubieand AttachmateNov 24 00:47
gnubieall rich criminalsNov 24 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 12 – 23/11/10 http://tinyurl.com/3yr3nnjNov 24 00:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell gave Microsoft anti-Linux weapon. & BTW, Hovsepian must have made like $25 million during his time @ Novell, for killing the companyNov 24 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes !TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 12 – 23/11/10 http://tinyurl.com/3yr3nnjNov 24 00:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When asked about #TSA procedures they sometimes refer to drug smuggling. So are we getting all naked for war on drugs or TERROR~1? #confusedNov 24 00:53
cubezzzwhat is with the 8.3 stuff? :)Nov 24 00:53
schestowitzcubezzz: where?Nov 24 00:54
cubezzzyou!Nov 24 00:54
gnubieI think he means TERROR~1Nov 24 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "War on drugs" in the #airporn is when they confiscate your bottle of vodka for buying duty-free over the permitted limit. #economicsNov 24 00:54
cubezzzactually I'm using FreeDOS a lot so mehNov 24 00:55
cubezzzI really really wanted true 320x200 mode backNov 24 00:55
gnubiewhy?Nov 24 00:55
cubezzzfor old dos games I still playNov 24 00:55
cubezzzplus I wrote a bunch of EGA stuffNov 24 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Call me naive, but I don't understand why large !opensource projects don't move to countries without software patents to protect themselves?Nov 24 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ron Paul: Why Sacrifice our Liberties for the Illusion of Perfect Safety? http://is.gd/hFEjZ !playogg #tsaNov 24 00:56
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cubezzzso 640x350 is nice to have tooNov 24 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz RT @GreeGreece Paulo Freire vs #Education by MegaRich http://bit.ly/ia8Znp #GatesNov 24 00:58
cubezzzit sucks for X though, being limited to 640x480Nov 24 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @ml2mst Hi! I'll send an email shortly in regards to the music you are kindly providing. I have a request! Kind regards Tim.Nov 24 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] That last video has the phrase "American people" used for government propaganda again, which reminded me of http://is.gd/hFFu4Nov 24 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Vandalizing Open-Source Drivers? http://tinyurl.com/2cc535s !radeon !fossNov 24 01:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Open-source Social Network Diaspora Goes Live http://tinyurl.com/39m3lvaNov 24 01:08
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sebsebsebgnubie: MinceR schestowitz hiNov 24 01:08
sebsebsebcubezzz: hiNov 24 01:08
sebsebsebWireWulf: hiNov 24 01:09
gnufreexHi sebsebsebNov 24 01:09
WireWulf'ello seb'sNov 24 01:09
sebsebsebDid you guys see my latest identica status in here?Nov 24 01:09
cubezzzhelloNov 24 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] REALLY?? FarmVille for Dummies is Real and Pre-order Ready http://ur1.ca/2f0poNov 24 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @schestowitz Novell gave Microsoft anti-Linux weapon & Hovsepian must have made like $25m during his time @ Novell, for killing the coyNov 24 01:09
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sebsebsebI might get trolled by Ubuntu fan boys as a result lolNov 24 01:09
cubezzzummm, no :)Nov 24 01:09
cubezzzdidn't see itNov 24 01:09
sebsebsebcubezzz: http://identi.ca/notice/59148184Nov 24 01:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Facebook royal rant bishop suspended http://tinyurl.com/338ux7g // Facebook more trouble than its worth? When will people learn?Nov 24 01:11
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sebsebsebAnyway it probably showed here earlier as a notice, just you guys missed itNov 24 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz: damn I want a sweet job where I can make $25 million to kill a company!Nov 24 01:13
cubezzzdid you folks know that Be offered to license BeOS for free to OEMs?Nov 24 01:13
sebsebsebnoNov 24 01:13
sebsebsebpeNov 24 01:13
cubezzzamazingly, no OEM seemed to take up Be's offerNov 24 01:13
WireWulfBeOS was coolNov 24 01:15
WireWulfI plaed with the mordern day or BeBABY OSsNov 24 01:15
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cubezzzI run Haiku now and thenNov 24 01:16
cubezzzplus I'm having fun with AROSNov 24 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Google lures Microsoft Officers with Docs plug-in http://tinyurl.com/3xt5df2 !microsoft !google !office !mvp !mvpbuzzNov 24 01:16
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cubezzzThe Inquirer seems strongly anti-MicrosoftNov 24 01:17
schestowitzalso AppleNov 24 01:17
schestowitzAnd LinuxNov 24 01:17
schestowitzIt's a link baiterNov 24 01:17
cubezzzanti everything thenNov 24 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 23/11/2010: New OS Benchmarks, Scientific Study Into Free Software in Finland http://is.gd/hFHALNov 24 01:18
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WireWulfanti computers fuck cISC bull shitNov 24 01:18
cubezzznot sure if you guys have seen this yet:Nov 24 01:19
cubezzzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/1899127/windowsNov 24 01:19
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schestowitzmehNov 24 01:19
WireWulfwindows is 25 damnedNov 24 01:19
*schestowitz sees straws blown by wind..Nov 24 01:20
WireWulfthought glass on the porthole of your house was a very old ideaNov 24 01:20
WireWulf'ello mr dr schestowitzNov 24 01:20
schestowitzI gotta say...Nov 24 01:20
schestowitzjono did admirable things back in lugradio daysNov 24 01:21
schestowitzNow he's all prNov 24 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @AmyPhetamine: Facebook is a hamster cage, "pretty and colorful and endlessly fun for you and your human owner"Nov 24 01:21
cubezzzhmmmNov 24 01:21
cubezzzI can't get excited about Ubuntu anywaysNov 24 01:21
schestowitzAnd pr means self-censorship, lack of opinionNov 24 01:21
bruce89computer owner surelyNov 24 01:21
schestowitzI want the old jono backNov 24 01:21
schestowitzI remember when he criticised groklawNov 24 01:22
schestowitzAfter groklaw said openoffice.org was being forkedNov 24 01:22
schestowitzWell, it is nowNov 24 01:22
schestowitzWireWulf: hiNov 24 01:22
WireWulfwell I am not much for bloggiing my thoughtsNov 24 01:23
WireWulfI profer useing my free student issues win7 disk as targets thoNov 24 01:23
schestowitzself-censorship is a terrible thing. I've just watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY2Z27Y-HJE againNov 24 01:23
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schestowitz"only 47 1/2 thousand views? And kittens doing funny things get a million. Shocking indictment of this media"Nov 24 01:23
cubezzz:-/Nov 24 01:23
cubezzzwell it shows that low brow stuff gets the hitsNov 24 01:24
cubezzzlike it or not, computers are mainstream nowNov 24 01:24
cubezzzno longer the domain of intelligentsiaNov 24 01:25
schestowitzit's not a journalNov 24 01:26
schestowitzTHe Internet was brough down a levelNov 24 01:26
schestowitz#2 site seems like facek00kNov 24 01:27
WireWulfinternet was awesome ideas booming aroudNov 24 01:28
cubezzzparts of it are still awesomeNov 24 01:28
WireWulfirc is about itNov 24 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] It is bloody freezing. California isn't all Baywatch and Outrun all the time.Nov 24 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] And there I go, gold (patched) finally built fuse (also patched)… 1-1, tie game.Nov 24 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Amused how "A personal appeal from Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales" is (a) not personal, it is a general ad, and (b) appears on every page.Nov 24 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Bollocks to cold weather, soup and tea it is.Nov 24 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ireland to get €85bn loan in deal that will nationalise its banks http://gu.com/p/2yazf/tfNov 24 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jonobacon Welcome to NorcalNov 24 01:39
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WireWulfthat makes me sickNov 24 01:46
sebsebsebWireWulf: yep Ireland are having problemsNov 24 01:49
bruce89just like everyone elseNov 24 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] It's Brian Cowen, not Brian Cowan #AnnoyedBecauseIHaveTheSameSecondNameNov 24 01:53
gnubieI see jono tweeting, thought he said he had to goNov 24 01:57
gnubiemore like he had to leave this discussion because he couldn't handle the truthNov 24 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I just hope that for the gold fix I'm not going to have to go through the @fsf assignment _once again_Nov 24 01:58
gnubieschestowitz: why do you syndicate flameeyes? he's pro mono / anti freesoftwareNov 24 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Moonlight Now Does GPU Acceleration: In the off-hours of XDS Toulouse a few of us were wondering what David Reve... http://bit.ly/hlAqGtNov 24 01:59
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gnubiehttp://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/09/15/mono-and-gentoo-integration-needs-more-workNov 24 02:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] This has got to be one of the best concept for a notebook (and it's not by Apple) - Acer Iconia http://engt.co/feAjw3Nov 24 02:03
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gnubieand photonix pushing moonlieNov 24 02:05
gnubiegood griefNov 24 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101124 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernelNov 24 02:23
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Viper550I got a Windows 7 banner. On the bottom. On Phoronix. WTFNov 24 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] LGP Is Partially Back Online; More Unforeseen Issues: It's been seven weeks since LGP's server disaster where th... http://bit.ly/hUs4LPNov 24 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] !unitycoders is NOT affiliated with #Unity3D or the amusingly named Unity shellNov 24 02:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @evan At the QWF gala. @majnoona got shortlisted for the Quebec Writing Competition. We're waiting for the announcement! http://ur1.c ...Nov 24 02:33
gnubieviper550: phoronix will shore itself to the highest bidderNov 24 02:33
gnubiewhoreNov 24 02:33
gnubieshore sounds funnyNov 24 02:33
Viper550stupid underline adsNov 24 02:33
gnubiethey are even doing free advertising for mono and moonlieNov 24 02:34
gnubiesee here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODgyMQNov 24 02:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Moonlight Now Does GPU Acceleration .::. Size~: 18.51 KBNov 24 02:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Congratulations on making the Quebec Writing Competition shortlist @majnoonaNov 24 02:36
Viper550gnubie, actually they do admit its badNov 24 02:38
gnubiewell, they don't in that articleNov 24 02:38
Viper550"Moonlight hasn't been a big-hit for Linux desktop users and even now on Microsoft's official Silverlight it seems its days are limited as they begin focusing more on HTML5"Nov 24 02:38
gnubiethey just go on about how great and wonderful it isNov 24 02:38
gnubieyes, but it is just a minor sentence in their articleNov 24 02:39
Viper550however, they bring up the valid argument that Flash on Linux doesn't have GPU accleration as a trade-offNov 24 02:39
gnubiethe rest of their article is glowingNov 24 02:39
gnubie"oh moonlight you are so wonderful with your GPU acceleration"Nov 24 02:40
gnubie"watch these videos of miguel icaza and this other novell sellout talk about how wonderful they are"Nov 24 02:40
gnubie(I assume it is miguel icaza talking, it sounds like his trator voice)Nov 24 02:41
gnubiewhy do they always get so much spotlight time?Nov 24 02:41
gnubiethey are traitorsNov 24 02:41
gnubiethey hate free softwareNov 24 02:42
gnubieand try to destroy itNov 24 02:42
gnubiefuck jono's "openrespect" bullshitNov 24 02:42
gnubienot everyone deserves respectNov 24 02:43
gnubieespecially not the likes of mono boostersNov 24 02:43
gnubiethis politically correctness is what gave mono trolls so much power in the first placeNov 24 02:43
gnufreexThat is why I decided not to mess with Ubunut.Nov 24 02:43
gnufreexThey seem to think they are above this worldNov 24 02:44
gnufreexLike they can be friends with anyone.Nov 24 02:44
gnubieyepNov 24 02:44
gnubieif jono wasn't so damned afraid of offending someoneNov 24 02:45
gnufreexThat attitude I find in every canonical employee.Nov 24 02:45
gnubie(and the people like him)Nov 24 02:45
gnubiethen the mono camp would be put in their place by nowNov 24 02:45
gnubiejono: are you listening?Nov 24 02:45
gnufreexIt is very self defeating.Nov 24 02:46
gnubiejono and the rest of ubuntu need to take a sideNov 24 02:46
gnufreexThey are open for takeover, which Microsoft shills are taking advantage off.Nov 24 02:46
gnubiejono & canonical are either with usNov 24 02:46
gnubieor they are against usNov 24 02:46
gnubiegnufreex: exactlyNov 24 02:46
gnubiewhich is turning them against usNov 24 02:47
gnubieI would rather have canonical be with usNov 24 02:47
gnubiebut they need to take a standNov 24 02:47
gnufreexMono shills and Linsux trolls already implanted their regime on Ubuntu Fourums.Nov 24 02:47
gnubieI knowNov 24 02:47
gnufreexThat will be core of Canonical's "commuity" from now on.Nov 24 02:48
gnubiejono: be careful of befriending mono shillsNov 24 02:48
gnufreexAntifreedom trollsNov 24 02:48
gnubiethey are not your friendsNov 24 02:48
gnubiethey will only try to destroy youNov 24 02:48
gnubieyep, good name for themNov 24 02:48
dyfet_when you fail to recognize your enemy, you have already been destroyedNov 24 02:48
gnubiebecause that is what they doNov 24 02:48
gnubieantifreedomNov 24 02:48
gnubiedyfet: yep, and canonical fail to recognize their enemiesNov 24 02:49
dyfet_yep, the problem is not about finding a way to play nice with sociopaths...Nov 24 02:49
gnufreexI think we must then recognize canonical as the enemy.Nov 24 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm Long term predictions are notoriously inaccurate. Let's look at one that flew under the radar earlier this year. http: ...Nov 24 02:51
dyfet_the more Asay's they hire, the more that indeed becomes trueNov 24 02:51
gnufreexAnti-freedomers are openly advertising their hate site in signatures.Nov 24 02:52
gnufreexOn UFNov 24 02:52
gnufreexOn the other sideNov 24 02:52
gnufreexPeople got flamed BY MODSNov 24 02:52
gnufreexFor linking to techrightsNov 24 02:52
gnufreexThey don't want people to see the truthNov 24 02:53
gnufreexNo wonder when Admin is Mac fanboy.Nov 24 02:53
gnubiethey've banned people for bringing up techrightsNov 24 02:53
gnufreexI know.Nov 24 02:53
gnubiethey banned someone from hereNov 24 02:53
dyfet_I have not paid much attention to their forums, so I am rather curious to hear thisNov 24 02:54
gnubieI read it on techrights (boycottnovell at the time) a year or so agoNov 24 02:55
gnubiemaybe a year and a half, it was during the summer I thinkNov 24 02:55
gnufreexThey banned a guy for responding to Admin's flame-bait. And he openly admitted that he "likes to troll zealots".Nov 24 02:55
gnubiebecause I was vacationing when I read itNov 24 02:55
gnufreexThat very well shows who run Ubuntu Forums. They ban people for linking to techrights, and in same time they let Linsux shills to link their hate sites in the signature. And when someone asks about that, they claim that they are open for everyone and that trolls are wellcome.Nov 24 03:00
gnufreexAnd at same time they are up in arms against some imaginary "zealots", which is code word for "people they don't like".Nov 24 03:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Send a free fax to your Senators: Make the DREAM Act a reality. http://bit.ly/h9ummxNov 24 03:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Diaspora now proprietary? https://joindiaspora.com/licensing.htmlNov 24 03:21
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sebsebsebhi dyfet_Nov 24 03:21
WireWulf'ello Diablo-D3Nov 24 03:22
Diablo-D3helloNov 24 03:23
*WireWulf is against the DREAM ACT :PNov 24 03:23
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: hmm I was just thinking about maybe subscring to you on identicaNov 24 03:25
Diablo-D3everyone shouldNov 24 03:26
Diablo-D3I have the best account on identicaNov 24 03:26
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: heh hehNov 24 03:27
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: yeah it seems to have quite a lot of stupid stuff in it,  haveing a bit of a look at the momentNov 24 03:28
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: yeah good dents really, just some are a bit hmmNov 24 03:29
sebsebsebby the looks of itNov 24 03:29
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: ok i'll subscribe I guess, but will you to me?Nov 24 03:29
dyfet_hi sebsebsebNov 24 03:30
sebsebsebdyfet_: I notice you subscribed to me on identica, so I did to you as well :dNov 24 03:30
dyfet_lolNov 24 03:31
sebsebsebplus I may have anyway to you probably, but yeah :)Nov 24 03:31
sebsebsebin fact I have subscribed to a few people, who I am not that sure who they are, but oh well :DNov 24 03:31
sebsebsebdyfet_: So you do stuff for FSF or GNU ?Nov 24 03:32
dyfet_Well, I maintain packages in GNUNov 24 03:32
dyfet_I have at times been a speaker for the FSF alsoNov 24 03:32
sebsebseboh such as?  altough that might actsually not mean much to meNov 24 03:33
dyfet_GNU Common C++, GNU SIP Witch, GNU ccrtp, GNU BayonneNov 24 03:33
sebsebsebyeah programs I haven't heard of, but okNov 24 03:33
Diablo-D3sebsebseb: url for yours?Nov 24 03:33
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: http://identi.ca/sebsebsebNov 24 03:34
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sebsebsebDiablo-D3: not subscribed to you just yet, but about toNov 24 03:34
sebsebsebdyfet_: So how come you subscribed to me? :)Nov 24 03:35
dyfet_Actually I think you subscribed me first....Nov 24 03:35
sebsebsebno I didn'tNov 24 03:35
sebsebsebyou subscribed to me first, and I did to you a little while ago :)Nov 24 03:36
dyfet_Maybe it was something I read on schestowitz feed then...Nov 24 03:36
Diablo-D3sebsebseb: dingNov 24 03:36
sebsebsebdyfet_: yeah I subscribed to someone, because of the feed  or whatever its called, but also repeated a message from himNov 24 03:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @askmeaks Via @opensourceway #Cooperative principles can be applied in #school settings http://bit.ly/f62oTf #OpenSourceNov 24 03:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @opensourceway "Open source theory-that many eyes see all bugs-is coming to pass in unexpected places." Incl. the Cooks Source madnes ...Nov 24 03:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @opensourceway Open standards policy in India: A long, but successful journey (by Venkatesh Hariharan) http://bit.ly/dcHit1Nov 24 03:38
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*sebsebseb will go to bed in a bit, its night, I am cold, been cold for hours, and its 2 degrees according to the Gnome weather featureNov 24 03:38
sebsebseboh winter sucks hereNov 24 03:38
sebsebsebeven jono has been getting some cold weather though,  according to identicaNov 24 03:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] SAP hit with $1.3 billion verdict in Oracle trial... I hate Oracle, but I hate SAP even more http://ur1.ca/2f1u8Nov 24 03:39
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sebsebsebdyfet_: so really on IRC, you could have one of  those FSF IRC cloaks or?Nov 24 03:40
dyfet_I never found need for a cloakNov 24 03:41
sebsebsebno why not?Nov 24 03:42
dyfet_what is the benefit?Nov 24 03:43
sebsebsebyeah some people can have a better cloak the standard Freenode one, but still don't wantNov 24 03:44
sebsebsebdyfet_: well it  hides the  ip address / host name, and looks good on IRC I guess, because shows people that contribute to that projectNov 24 03:45
dyfet_hmm...that is a valid point...I am not worried about hiding ip address because connectivity goes down so often that I constantly have new ones :)Nov 24 03:45
sebsebsebdyfet_: anyway I am looking forward to having a Mageia cloak, and should be getting one in  the future, beause of what I will  be doing,  but thats not why I will be doing what I wil be doing,  thats just something that should go with it :)Nov 24 03:46
dyfet_I look forward to mageiaNov 24 03:47
sebsebsebyeah same hereNov 24 03:47
sebsebsebwill be a great distroNov 24 03:47
WireWulfI look backward :P linspire XD j/kNov 24 03:47
sebsebseband I am taking the oppertunity to do some offical  community stuff, for what will be a great distro :)Nov 24 03:47
dyfet_I know Angelo, who is part of the Mageia teamNov 24 03:47
sebsebsebnot sure who that isNov 24 03:48
dyfet_Angelo Naselli (anaselli)Nov 24 03:48
sebsebsebdyfet_: well anyway I am doing UK Mageia Users Community :)  and  Swedish IRC channels operatorNov 24 03:48
sebsebseband I haven't even been to my not so local LUG for example or anything like that, but even so, yep :)Nov 24 03:48
sebsebseband there are some others interested in well UK, but also Swedish stuff for Mageia, so :dNov 24 03:49
sebsebsebhalf Swedish, so also helping with those IRC channelsNov 24 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Almost started playig minecraft. Konqueror crashed instead. My productivity thanks KonquerorNov 24 03:49
sebsebsebdyfet_: and its nice to be there, at the begining, of what will be a great distro :) that's what I thinkNov 24 03:50
dyfet_I remember when long ago I went from redhat to Mandrake...Nov 24 03:50
sebsebsebwell Mandriva aren't dieingNov 24 03:50
WireWulftis slowly tis slowlyNov 24 03:51
sebsebseba Mandriva 2010.2 will come out on  December 22nd unless they delay of course, and then  they will start doing one release per yearNov 24 03:51
sebsebsebdyfet_: however like Ubuntu,  Mandriva is commercial so hmmNov 24 03:51
sebsebsebyou know nice   100% community distros :)Nov 24 03:51
dyfet_I also used to package a lot of things for Mandrake back then.  So I am just happy to see Mageia emerge.Nov 24 03:51
sebsebsebwith non profit organisations behind them,  that's like true Linux I guess :)Nov 24 03:51
sebsebseband yep Mageia is 100% community, with a non profit organisation behind itNov 24 03:52
dyfet_And yes, this time, that will be betterNov 24 03:52
sebsebsebyeah and as long as they do two releases per  year as well :)  and maybe even turn it into a rolling release, when Ubuntu turns in to one, or whateverNov 24 03:52
sebsebsebdyfet_: as for Mandriva, well they mainly only seem to care about their big paid customers now,  so yeah to Mageia :)Nov 24 03:53
dyfet_I wonder if Fedora will turn to rawhide to also go the rolling release route...Nov 24 03:53
sebsebsebwell yeah Fedora would go rolling if Ubuntu does I expectNov 24 03:54
sebsebsebdyfet_: anyway Mandriva is a failure as a company now really, because of the issues in the past and all that, I mean they are rather unlikely to ever gain enough money again, to be able to compete against Canonical as a company for exampleNov 24 03:55
dyfet_yea I know Mandriva really failed...especially the users at this point, I thinkNov 24 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost Werent' you workin gon some project before that? ;)Nov 24 03:56
sebsebsebplus by the sounds of it, Powerpack is pintless for most users,  and the releaes of Mandriva can be a bit confussing for people, I mean if they should go for free or oneNov 24 03:56
dyfet_I looked at the mandriva site once.  Yes, it was very confusing as to what to download and why.Nov 24 03:57
sebsebsebwell the Mandriva distro is still great, but yes the company has ended up being a failure,  and these new investors haven't really helped much with that so far,  in fact getting rid of most of the Euroepan developers or whatever it was, and so yep MageiaNov 24 03:57
sebsebsebsure, plus  how free is a DVD 32bit and 64bit, but One is a Live CD and only 32bit,  and power pack is both,  and yeah its hmm.  anyway I went with one, but more recently in IRC I have basically been told in a way that I wasn't on a proper release, because One is basically free and then done like  a show case or whatever it was.  propritary Nivida driver just worked or whatever in One on two computers :)Nov 24 03:58
sebsebsebdyfet_: anyway Mageia  I think will only have one release at first so :d  and sure 32bit and 64bit,  or one release, but  both Gnome and KDE supported, however they will do itNov 24 03:59
sebsebsebshoudnät be as confussing as Mandriva though for new usersNov 24 03:59
sebsebsebas to which release to go forNov 24 03:59
dyfet_That is a good start right there :)Nov 24 03:59
sebsebsebwell I think they will do a 32bit and 64bitNov 24 04:00
sebsebsebseems they will be taking latest cooker, and doing their changes, and releasing MageiaNov 24 04:00
dyfet_I hope you get some opensuse people to migrate too...Nov 24 04:00
sebsebseband alpha 1  should come out around the 7th of next month :)Nov 24 04:00
sebsebsebyeah can't remember who, but they basically said on here,  that maybe OpenSuse developers  should go and develope Mageia, then I was like maybe, but  Mageia will want to use the Mandriva stuff, and OpenSuse will want to use YastNov 24 04:01
sebsebsebdyfet_: there was a poll actsaully,  that I voted in earlier, about OpenSuse and what should happenNov 24 04:01
sebsebseband the who cares option, had most votes :)Nov 24 04:01
dyfet_Well, also mandriva had rpm packaging policies different from opensuse (and fedora)...if some go to mageia and others maybe go to fedora, both would clearly benefitNov 24 04:02
sebsebseband if OpenSuse died,  sure users would be effected, but if  most of the developers went to distros such as Fedora and Mageia,  then that right there would be quite  the win  for Desktop Linux I guess :)Nov 24 04:03
sebsebsebdistro deaths can be a pretty good thing, dependsNov 24 04:03
dyfet_well, opensuse was being strangled by Novell "closed"suse ;)Nov 24 04:04
sebsebsebyeah OpenSuse was used to help Novell with Redhat Enterprise LinuxNov 24 04:04
sebsebseblike how Fedora is used to help Redhat with Redhat Enterprise LinuxNov 24 04:04
sebsebsebas a result, neither distro are proper community distros reallyNov 24 04:05
dyfet_The difference being that Novell was helping microsoft rather than the community in doing so...Nov 24 04:05
sebsebsebplus OpenSuse would have funding from Novell, and yep Fedora gets it from RedhatNov 24 04:05
sebsebseband yeah some of the Novell patents going to Microsoft, according to articlesNov 24 04:05
sebsebsebor IP whateverNov 24 04:05
dyfet_Fedora is not and a true community distro, but at least it is not one that does additional harms.  Mageia means there finally is a true community rpm distroNov 24 04:06
sebsebsebdyfet_: will be interesting to see how things work outNov 24 04:06
sebsebseboh we got a great Desktop Linux year next year I thinkNov 24 04:06
sebsebsebGnome 3, Mageia :)Nov 24 04:07
dyfet_So I do look forward to seeing what happensNov 24 04:07
sebsebsebUbuntu's Unity interface to an extent evenNov 24 04:07
sebsebsebI mean interesting to see how 11.04 goesNov 24 04:07
sebsebsebwith Unity on the desktop, by default, instead of Gnome Shell :(Nov 24 04:08
dyfet_well, as for ubuntu unity, I will withhold judgement until there is something that can be seen in it's desktop form...Nov 24 04:08
sebsebseband I am not sure whats going on with btrfs, but maybe more distros will start using by default next year?Nov 24 04:08
sebsebsebLibreOffice even, that will make things interesting to an extentNov 24 04:09
dyfet_When we can do rollbacks with btrfs and boot into snapshots for recovery in case of a failed update, that is when it will become very valuable.Nov 24 04:09
sebsebsebMint not using Shell or Unity by default for next version thats :)  and  their Debian version will get even better next year, and of course we get the usaul later  KDE and Linux and so onNov 24 04:09
sebsebsebindeed @ thatNov 24 04:10
sebsebsebwill be awesomeNov 24 04:10
sebsebsebusing jono 's word there :DNov 24 04:10
sebsebsebI think when the snapshots work properly, it will get rid of most of the software related support issues for distrosNov 24 04:10
sebsebseband when they are really easy to useNov 24 04:10
sebsebsebdyfet_: have you listended to techbytes at all?Nov 24 04:12
dyfet_No, I simply have been lazy about it and catching up on other things....I should, thoughNov 24 04:13
sebsebsebdyfet_: yeah its quite good, also I'll take part in it eventaully and talk about Mageia and Mandriva and such, but  need to be set up with Skype first :(Nov 24 04:13
sebsebsebincluding maybe buying hardware to speak through, unless can find something that should work with it hmmNov 24 04:14
dyfet_hmm...that sounds like a problem we should try to solveNov 24 04:14
sebsebsebdyfet_: what gettring rid of the need for SKype?Nov 24 04:14
dyfet_yesNov 24 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Understanding the Internet's insecure routing infrastructure http://ur1.ca/2f21zNov 24 04:14
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sebsebsebwell there is some other way,  I told schestowitz about something, but I don't know, didnt even look a thatNov 24 04:14
sebsebsebdyfet_: however yes they want to do it in a more open wayNov 24 04:15
dyfet_I recall he even had a post about that problem.  I just had been focused elsewhere at the momentNov 24 04:15
sebsebsebor uhmm free software like way, even aboveNov 24 04:15
sebsebsebdyfet_: also  they want guest speakers, well you do some interesting stuff by the sounds of it when it comes to free software, so maybe you can talk on it as a guest speaker some time :)Nov 24 04:16
dyfet_I would love to do that alsoNov 24 04:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[debian/@debian] Debian Security Announce 2125 openssl - buffer overflow - #dsa - http://www.debian.org/security/2010/dsa-2125Nov 24 04:16
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dyfet_I am currently trying to get a nsf grant proposal togetherNov 24 04:17
sebsebsebaway schestowitz ^Nov 24 04:17
sebsebsebaboveNov 24 04:17
sebsebsebdyfet_: anyway asterisk and sip, or whatever people were saying, but if using that stuff, to talk, what kind of hardware need, just a micro phone or?Nov 24 04:18
sebsebsebwhats nsf?Nov 24 04:18
sebsebsebdyfet_: oh yes whilst talking about audio casts as they say here, since something about Apple and podcastNov 24 04:18
sebsebsebI listended to a very good interview the other dayNov 24 04:19
sebsebsebSunday I guess it was, anyway,  from   the end of October, with one of the Mageia founders :)Nov 24 04:19
dyfet_A microphone and sound card is all that is needed.  I might suggest twinkle, because it can handle multiple calls at the ua side....Nov 24 04:19
dyfet_nsf = national science foundationNov 24 04:20
dyfet_it's a part of us gov...Nov 24 04:20
sebsebsebdyfet_: ohNov 24 04:20
sebsebsebby the way on identica you should probably join the mageia group really, and even subscribe to the mageia user, whoever that isNov 24 04:20
sebsebsebI have already sent some messages to !mageia :)Nov 24 04:20
dyfet_Maybe I should.  I do wish to see how it evolves.Nov 24 04:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] so #DuckDuckGo gets it results from Bing. #failNov 24 04:21
sebsebsebdyfet_: well Fedora is going bye bye from  my computer soon, had some issues and yeahNov 24 04:22
sebsebseband want to give PC Linux OS a try on real hardware downloaded the ISO for Gnome earlier, but will install in the day / afternoon  / evening I guessNov 24 04:22
sebsebsebor whenever it will beNov 24 04:23
sebsebsebdyfet_: I was running Mandriva rather happily on here, but then wanted to try Unity on my desktop,  Ubuntu's unity, so did that for a bit, then Fedora,  and went away a week even, and yeah still Fedora,  but next PCLOS, and then Mageia hopefuly,  unless I end up putting  Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 1 desktop on, because of Compiz unity, which if set up right I should be able to virtual machine anywayNov 24 04:24
sebsebseband Mandriva has stayed on the other computer since I put on,  and uhmmm yeah,  also I will go to bed soon like I said earlierNov 24 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Florida's special foreclosure courts http://ur1.ca/2f23sNov 24 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Search Insurgents Pair Up Against Spam … and Google | Epicenter | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/2f246Nov 24 04:24
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dyfet_Well, there is always also mother debian, and a few fully libre distros out there also.  People should find what they are happy with.Nov 24 04:25
sebsebsebdyfet_: well sure, but thats the thing right thereNov 24 04:25
sebsebsebUbuntu has been hyped up since 2004, so many people just use it, because they were told to use it, and they may never look at another distro,  and they may never pick their own as a resultNov 24 04:26
dyfet_that is in a way unfortunateNov 24 04:26
sebsebsebplus if Ubuntu messes up,  they think Linux is bad, and yep back to Windows or Mac OS XNov 24 04:26
sebsebsebyep Ubuntu is the face of Desktop Linux and it really isn't a good one quite a bit of the time, wireless issues are quite common for example, and I  think more so than many of the other distrosNov 24 04:27
dyfet_The issue I have seen over multiple releases is that different video card support goes bad.  Some releases it is intel that is bad, some it is nvidia, some it is amd :)Nov 24 04:28
sebsebsebdyfet_: plus they could be more free as in freedom like they were before, before 9.10, but no,  now Canonical want to make money by putting services into the distro itself and such so hmmNov 24 04:28
sebsebseband yes thats something else, something that worked in a previous version, may stop working in a later version of Ubuntu, or just well after an upgradeNov 24 04:28
sebsebsebdyfet_: plus 10.04  refused to let anyone log in on our other computer eventaully, and I don't know why, so yep  soon after that it was time to remove Ubuntu, and put on a more relible distro on that one as well, yep Mandriva, where yep  like on here, Plymouth worked fine,  even with propriary Nivdia driver, where as Fedora and Ubuntu would mess up so hmmNov 24 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Installing #Slackware out of curiosityNov 24 04:29
sebsebsebdyfet_: way to much hype sourrunding Ubuntu, there realy is way to much these days,  espesailly now that the distro isn't  really as good as it used to be.Nov 24 04:31
sebsebsebplus there are these other fine distros, that would love to have mroe market  share, but no Ubuntu messes that up for themNov 24 04:31
dyfet_I think that may be more a consequence of the snapshot of sid approach and 6 month schedule, it means if something is incomplete or not well integrated in sid, and the issue not well identified, it propogates the problem.Nov 24 04:31
sebsebsebwell sure they wil get some of the Debain issues or many of themNov 24 04:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] . I used that shit like two years ago. Digital Weapons Help Dissidents Punch Holes in China's Great Firewall | Magazine http://ur1.ca/2f25wNov 24 04:33
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sebsebsebdyfet_: well yeah Ubuntu don't base on Debian StableNov 24 04:33
dyfet_or testing...Nov 24 04:33
sebsebsebwell whatever the reason,  distros such as Mandriva and PC Linux OS seem to do hardware support better in general it seems compared to UbuntuNov 24 04:34
sebsebsebdyfet_: altough someone using the other computer was going to print with Mandriva, and he said,  it didn't work, well I haven't looked yet, but probably easy to sort that outNov 24 04:34
sebsebsebthat printer worked fine with Ubuntu though hmmNov 24 04:34
dyfet_they also do less frequent releases and hence have longer pre-release cyclesNov 24 04:34
sebsebsebthey do six month releaes, which some people think is to muchNov 24 04:34
sebsebsebdyfet_: PC Linux OS is meant to be pretty good though,  and its a rolling releaseNov 24 04:35
dyfet_Also, Ubuntu is two steps removed from upstream, while some of these distros use and package upstream stuff directlyNov 24 04:36
sebsebseba few or so distros that were Ubuntu based,  such as Crunchbang directly base on Debian nowNov 24 04:36
sebsebseband Unity and  Ubuntu One and Simple Scan and such is Canonical now becoming an upsream them selvesNov 24 04:37
dyfet_so is gnewsense now...and mint has it's new debian rolling release...Nov 24 04:37
sebsebsebyep  Mint has LMDENov 24 04:37
sebsebseband oh gnewsesne is based on Debian,  hmm I think I may have read something to do with thatNov 24 04:37
sebsebsebI remember I like virtual machiend tried it twice or something,  quite a whiel agoNov 24 04:38
sebsebsebhmm time and so on, but as the saying goes, all things have to come to an end, and well  its been a good chat, but  I want to stop now reallyNov 24 04:38
dyfet_I do not think it is bad for ubuntu to become an upstream for certain packages, so long as the packages are licensed in freedom.  The ubuntu-one stuff however depends on an unfree backend, but is easy enough to remove.Nov 24 04:38
sebsebsebsure and there is the copyright assignements issueNov 24 04:39
dyfet_I had meant to write an article about copyright assignment in general...Nov 24 04:39
sebsebsebwell Stallman did a good one :)Nov 24 04:39
dyfet_I am sure he did :)Nov 24 04:40
sebsebsebI assume you have meet himNov 24 04:40
sebsebsebwhats he like?Nov 24 04:40
dyfet_But he is a copyright deist...believing there should be "no more than" one copyright holder.  I am a dualist ;).  I think having copyright assignment split between a trustworthy org like the FSF for contributors, and the primary author, keeps both honest and gives the packages community a voice...Nov 24 04:41
sebsebsebwell sure, for many  Canoncal can't be trusted properly, but they can trust the FSF :)Nov 24 04:42
sebsebsebI am one of those by the wayNov 24 04:42
dyfet_Richard is great to discuss problems and always interesting at dinner, largely because you never know who else will have dinner with him :)Nov 24 04:42
sebsebsebI won't trust any company properly anymoreNov 24 04:43
sebsebsebcompanies mess stuff up and so onNov 24 04:43
dyfet_companies have motives that are not the same as communities...Nov 24 04:43
sebsebsebwell yeahNov 24 04:43
sebsebsebanyway Canonical is now about becoming more like a Mac, and gaining the masses and making money whilst doing so, thats their goalNov 24 04:44
dyfet_So long as one does not have a majority or exclusive copyright interest, and the total number of holders are small (say two ;)...then I think the harm is containedNov 24 04:44
dyfet_If Canonical accepted contributor copyright assignment done through the FSF for example, then the problem would be solvableNov 24 04:45
sebsebsebalso another issue for UbuntuNov 24 04:46
sebsebsebis there are quite a few people in its community whoNov 24 04:46
sebsebsebwell are quite ignorant reallyNov 24 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Apple Story | When Your Company Remote-Wipes Your Personal Phone http://ur1.ca/2f28lNov 24 04:46
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sebsebsebthey as a resultNov 24 04:46
dyfet_lolNov 24 04:46
sebsebsebmay go like anti GnomeNov 24 04:46
sebsebsebor  anti tech rightsNov 24 04:46
sebsebsebor  anti StallmanNov 24 04:46
sebsebsebthink Gnome are extreameNov 24 04:47
WireWulfanti gay marriageNov 24 04:47
sebsebsebthink tech rights can't really be listended to properly, because of yeahNov 24 04:47
dyfet_well, I do not think one has to pick on ubuntu exclusively in that regard.  Indeed, each distro has its issues...Nov 24 04:47
sebsebseband joke about Stallman,  because thats what these kind of  people doNov 24 04:47
WireWulfo wait we are talk about weird anti free software ppl :P not stuff I am againstNov 24 04:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF urges Supreme Court to not yet address constitutional questions about the state secrets privilege https://eff.org/r.4u3Nov 24 04:48
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sebsebsebdyfet_:  I am not quite wording myself properly at the moment,  but I mean like they get opinions and think they are correct about certain stuff like this, but not really understand what things are properly aboutNov 24 04:48
sebsebsebanother example would be Mono actsualleyNov 24 04:48
sebsebsebhow loads would think its fine, becasue how its open really,  and then not understand how certain  people are quite anti Mono and whyNov 24 04:49
sebsebsebor not undersatnd how it helps Microsoft, and how that may be a bad thing, for exampleNov 24 04:49
sebsebsebaltough sure its not just Ubuntu peopleNov 24 04:49
WireWulfMono = .net framework for linuxNov 24 04:50
dyfet_There are monoids in debian too...and a few other places...Nov 24 04:50
sebsebsebas a whole, there is a lot of ignorance in the whole Linux community,  when it comes to how it like all began,  and why stuff matters like software freedom, why it really matters, and so onNov 24 04:50
dyfet_but yes, the ignorance point is most importantNov 24 04:51
sebsebseband a lot of Ubuntu users woudn't really understand, why many people from other distros, don't really like Ubuntu at all or not that much, for exampleNov 24 04:51
dyfet_if they do not know what freedom is they will not know how to retain itNov 24 04:51
WireWulfsabayon :PNov 24 04:52
sebsebsebdyfet_: and something that personally gets me at times, is when peopel who use Desktop Linux,  joke about Stallman,  like its an ok thing to do, when really they should be quite loyal to him, because no GNU project and well  most Linux distros woudn't be like they are todayNov 24 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Slackware still uses #LILO ? How retroNov 24 04:53
dyfet_and yes, some distros choose to do a much better job of educating usersNov 24 04:53
sebsebsebUbuntu does a rather bad job at doing thatNov 24 04:53
dyfet_they would be bsd or bsd-like with linux kernel...probably mostly proprietary, too, and not very good as a result if that happened...Nov 24 04:54
WireWulfyupNov 24 04:54
sebsebsebdyfet_: also something ideally more users should reolise is that,  Linux distros were never meant to replace Windows, its just they happen to be good enough in the past few years or so,  to replace Windows  for the majority of average computer  tasksNov 24 04:55
dyfet_Well, GNU/Linux systems have been usable for most user tasks for a long time actuallyNov 24 04:56
WireWulflinux was ment to be a kernel and you can do what you wish with it reallyNov 24 04:56
sebsebsebdyfet_: I used to do it every now and again,  help people out with Ubuntu, but also give them an idea about the history (probably not quite correct, but correct enough)  that there was Unix, and  then Stallman wanted his free software alternative the GNU project, but  the kernel Hurd wasn't good enough, but then Linux  came along and got released under the GPL, and was compatible, and so on from thereNov 24 04:56
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WireWulfHurd is newer then LinuxNov 24 04:57
sebsebsebWireWulf: noNov 24 04:57
sebsebsebWireWulf: Hurd was firstNov 24 04:57
sebsebsebas far as I knowNov 24 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @fontana ya i saw that in #salix. am running it in #vboxNov 24 04:58
dyfet_Hurd was derived from Mach...odly enough the only mach related systems in widespread use is OS/X, which is a kind of mashup of mach, freebsd and other odd things...Nov 24 04:58
WireWulfdyfet_: os x is mainly darwin and XNUNov 24 04:59
sebsebsebI will have the computer on for a bit longer, or a lot longer, depends, but  I am going to stop chatting in this convo nowNov 24 05:00
dyfet_There is mach in there, and mach headers.  I recall their drivers used the mach stuff most...Nov 24 05:00
sebsebsebaltough anything that wants to be said before I properly do that?  no?Nov 24 05:00
sebsebsebI mean to meNov 24 05:00
sebsebsebWireWulf: have fun chatting  to this guy, he works on the GNU project :)Nov 24 05:01
WireWulfdyfet_:  if i remember correctly darwin was a atempt at a micro kernel BSD and XNU was based on machNov 24 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @roccityny: Sad news for NZ miners. http://is.gd/hGd0ANov 24 05:03
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WireWulfboth sorta failedNov 24 05:03
dyfet_WireWulf: I suspect you are correct.  In that sense, like Hurd originally was, XNU is mach derived...I am not sure where Hurd/L4 and other hurd things are going nowadays thoughNov 24 05:03
WireWulfhave never messed with hurdNov 24 05:04
WireWulfplayed with solaris alot thoNov 24 05:04
WireWulfunrelated but Unix either wayNov 24 05:05
dyfet_I went to a number of the same conferences as Marcus Brinkman in 2002-2003, so I heard a lot about Hurd development then...Nov 24 05:06
WireWulfI was still in jr high XDNov 24 05:06
dyfet_Well, I hope hurd is finished before your kids are in jr high ;).  It is now a long project that has had difficulties.Nov 24 05:09
dyfet_But I also do think it retains some excellent ideasNov 24 05:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] TSA routinely humiliates http://ur1.ca/2f2hzNov 24 05:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] okay I hate to say it but #Slackware is basically #FAILNov 24 05:44
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MinceRi don't think that rolling release is a "nice" or "user friendly" featureNov 24 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] TSA going after Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/2f2vqNov 24 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] To me, the most valuable thing mentioned in !faifcast, is #WHENCE. Didn't know such documentation existed.Nov 24 06:28
schestowitz[01:58] <gnubie> schestowitz: why do you syndicate flameeyes? he's pro mono / anti freesoftwareNov 24 06:36
schestowitzYeah ;-(Nov 24 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... Looks like Larry kicked SAP's arse! Couldn't tell whose more evil in this case but probably SAP...Nov 24 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @ravenonline Der erquickende Duft eines frischen Kaffees. Herrlich!Nov 24 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost exactly.Nov 24 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @laurelrusswurm nah. writing is easy. it's writing *well* that's hard ;-)Nov 24 06:43
schestowitzgnufreex: I doubt UF would ban over someone linking to a siteNov 24 06:51
schestowitzUnless those linking did something elseNov 24 06:51
schestowitzBut if you have proof to the contrary, I'd need to see itNov 24 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TSA's Nude Scanners, Former Homeland Security Head Chertoff, and How Our Government Works http://is.gd/hGt8u #tsa still stripping millions/dNov 24 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Will I spend the day tracking down and fixing a bug in _glibc_ today? =_=Nov 24 06:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ... MediaWiki's API sends password over http in the URL? the fuck?Nov 24 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Commissioner issues first Data Protection Act fines http://is.gd/hGudANov 24 07:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ubuntu-ready netbook moves to dual-core Atom http://is.gd/hGuKd #ubuntu #gnu #linux #atom #intelNov 24 07:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Update on the Severed Fifth Recording Campaign - $500 raised, but we need more help! http://is.gd/hGv7Q #severedfifthNov 24 07:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Victory declared in Brazil over Windows XP http://is.gd/hGvki #microsoft #windows #xpNov 24 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jonobacon Update on the Severed Fifth Recording Campaign - $500 raised, but we need more help! http://is.gd/hGv7Q #severedfifthNov 24 07:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Support artists who wants their work to spread, not artists whoNov 24 07:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Support artists who want their work to spread, not artists who(se labels) want to put people in jail/debt for spreading their workNov 24 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oops. Some #Vista7 ads in @phoronix - gotta watch out what IDG injects into these pages.Nov 24 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jonobacon you don't need to say anything about Novell, but you need to at least read about it. It would help.Nov 24 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The most important updates in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 http://is.gd/hGw79 #redhat #rhel #rhel6 #gnu #linuxNov 24 07:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxkernel Linux kernel next-20101123 has been released ...Nov 24 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't #TSA me, bro: Boing Boing open thread, and new rules for those who refuse patdown http://is.gd/hGwm0 pay attention to democracy crisisNov 24 07:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Well, I told you in 2006 that Novell had sold out, did I not? The Microsoft patent deal was a big hint." --Groklaw http://is.gd/hGwESNov 24 07:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Boycott Novell's goal was to ensure that the least number of people end up in Novell's (Microsoft's) 'IP prison'. http://is.gd/hGwSJ #swpatsNov 24 07:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] hearing from people who have been sceptical of Boycott Novell and now realise they ought to have paid attention earlierNov 24 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Miguel de Icaza tweets that Mono goes to Attachmate. Watch out, y'all. We warned you and warned you about Mono" http://is.gd/hGwESNov 24 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @aseigo science is the poetry of reality ... here's the music to prove it: http://is.gd/hGxFLNov 24 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak Hmm, am I the only one who assigned copyright to #FSF in #Saudi_Arabia? http://is.gd/hFsZONov 24 07:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Preupgrade kills Fedora 13-to-14 system; starting over with fresh Fedora 13 install http://ht.ly/1a8uy5Nov 24 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rrix In other news: Reuters is on the scene of the N Korea bombing of S Korea http://imgur.com/7bo4t (now with imagetacularity!)Nov 24 07:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell sold to Microsoft-sponsored vulture capitalists http://is.gd/hGyPn Do you still like Novell? Should we defend them? #swpatsNov 24 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @greve RT @aseigo awesome new word for the day: "fudback" -> FUD disguised as constructive feedback. ;)Nov 24 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] if( property=="fuckxmlsucks" ) call HandleSuckAssProperties();Nov 24 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Twitter Joke Trial carries on http://is.gd/hGzsb if everyone in the public is on Paul's side, why bother punishing him? #powertothepeopleNov 24 07:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Today’s Lesson: Make Facebook Angry, And They’ll Censor You Into Oblivion http://is.gd/hGzKa not the first time. Facebook uses Free softwareNov 24 07:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost niceNov 24 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Malicious companies are companies which are run by malicious managers. People who know nothing about Facebook's genesis will be hurt.Nov 24 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb again the "quality" #BBC journos do a Windows only story without mentioning "Windows" or "Microsoft" http://bbc.in/eWKvgBNov 24 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost wurd.Nov 24 07:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hahahaha... Somebody modded a lot of the yellow lights in !Bonn into radiation symbols. :DNov 24 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink @glynmoody I was always surprised people thought the Tories were actually interested in FOSS. LibDem marketing, Tory policies.Nov 24 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Handing out Ubuntu CDs http://is.gd/hGBwg #inspirational via @torosNov 24 07:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does anyone know what happens to Ron Hovsepian now that Novell is sold? The southern pacific islands are nice this time of the year.Nov 24 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lnxwalt280 [re Novell] It will take a year or so before the lawsuits start flying, and only then will some admit they were wrong.Nov 24 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] It seems that identi.ca community didn't care much about #Miley_Cyrus's 18th Birthday. :-) Twitter is going crazy.Nov 24 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gomerx Microsoft has pwned Unix, North Korea has attacked South Korea and Sarah Palin could be president in a couple years. It can't ...Nov 24 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @osamak in twitter, people talk about people. In Facebook, people talk about events. In identi.ca, people discuss ideas. In 4chan -- images.Nov 24 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Sarkozy calls journalists paedophiles - http://bit.ly/gyx8Dj Oh, Sarko, you are such a one... #france #sarkozyNov 24 08:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mairin why is there no such thing as a laundromat for washing dishes?Nov 24 08:09
schestowitzDustin Harper, whose twitter profile says "Avid Microsoft Fan" has been trolling us on twitter and now creates new account called techpigsNov 24 08:12
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/MSTechPages http://twitter.com/#!/techpigsNov 24 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Digital vaccine needed to fight botnets - http://bbc.in/fyQSq9 another pathetic #BBC piece failing to mention Windows (via @schestowitz)Nov 24 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Open Source Monetisation Essay Posted: My essay asserting that open source projects aren’t about giving stuff aw... http://bit.ly/hnc9hpNov 24 08:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] "If I came out against eccentricity, people would call me a hypocrite" Michael Gove on @R4Today :-)Nov 24 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I guess this will be a good weekend project - hosting your own diaspora server - http://ur1.ca/2f3rt #fbNov 24 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Installing and running diaspora - diaspora - GitHub .::. Size~: 34.87 KBNov 24 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Number of free-school-meals children going to Oxbridge dropped under last government - #GoveNov 24 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @fabsh hear! hear! my #nexusone rocks!Nov 24 08:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] TSA and terrorism http://ur1.ca/2f3soNov 24 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Sorry, Folks, We'd Rather Be Body-Scanned Than Blown Up In Mid-Air - http://read.bi/hWmKnq </false dichotomy alert>Nov 24 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Why does BBC not mention M$ windoze in this story? It is all about M$ windows' solid security anyway! http://ur1.ca/2f3t8 #fbNov 24 08:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sorry, Folks, We'd Rather Be Body-Scanned Than Blown Up In Mid-Air .::. Size~: 452.29 KBNov 24 08:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Digital vaccine needed to fight botnets .::. Size~: 52.48 KBNov 24 08:28
schestowitzhttp://gabriellacoleman.org/blog/?p=2071Nov 24 08:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interprete » An unlikely story about a pit bull attack, free software, and a New York Times reporter .::. Size~: 33.6 KBNov 24 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst pls dent your expriences with #Fedora 14 KDE (glad you moved to it)Nov 24 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If there's any indication that Novell became very unpopular it's the decrease in visits to Boycott Novell pages under !techrights Monday-TueNov 24 08:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/7343621988687872 "There was some mention that South Korea may have fired first..."Nov 24 08:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oops. Last dent should say increase, not decrease.Nov 24 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If there's any indication that Novell became very unpopular it's the increase in visits to Boycott Novell pages under !techrights Monday-TueNov 24 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @laurelrusswurm American sf writer named .. Kornbluth wrote a wonderful story called "The Marching Morons" in 1951... seems he was right.Nov 24 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TSA apologists typically use bogus arguments spoon-fed to them by spinmeistersNov 24 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "People get the government their behavior deserves. People deserve better than that." --Richard StallmanNov 24 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @schestowitz @osamak in twitter, people talk about people. In Facebook, people talk about events. In identi.ca, people discuss ide ...Nov 24 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @seeds RT @glynmoody: A general public license for seeds? - http://bit.ly/hvh39r sounds like the start of a, er, seminal idea... #gplNov 24 08:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: P2P Foundation  » Blog Archive   » A general public license for seeds? .::. Size~: 53.64 KBNov 24 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fsfe Fellowship interview: GNU hacker Brian Gough discusses Free Documentation, Emacs Org-Mode, and ... http://l.fsfe.org/BZU49ENov 24 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fellowship Interview with Brian Gough «  Fellowship Interviews .::. Size~: 21.41 KBNov 24 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera @laurelrusswurm re "Oh btw openuniverse (menn) seems to be back but denting infrequently" >I hope so, I love his dentsNov 24 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I reckon the West will take SKorea's side because it needs all those e-exports, not because of communism. #economicsNov 24 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @dontcallmedom: Android version of W3C Cheatsheet upgrade with minor fixes to HTML5/XPath. http://ping.fm/CELZMNov 24 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer @mairin "The freedom to swing your arms ends one inch in front of my nose", #RMS IIRC ;-)Nov 24 08:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C Cheat Sheet on Android — documentation .::. Size~: 3.27 KBNov 24 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb how many MS employees are on the #BBC payroll? 2 Windows stories in one day that don't mention "Windows" http://bbc.in/fN8bzXNov 24 08:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - E-mail computer hacker jailed after international scam .::. Size~: 53.61 KBNov 24 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft to Novell (UNIX) and SCO is like an angry dad who says to son: "Give me that bat. I'll show you how to hit a homerun" -appallingNov 24 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wolf on the "closing down of democracy." http://is.gd/hGKhR #tsa the next stop?Nov 24 09:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Interview - Naomi Wolf - The End of America   .::. Size~: 129.33 KBNov 24 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lnxwalt140 Of The #TSA and the 4th Amendment http://bit.ly/gIcR98Nov 24 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Of The #TSA and the 4th Amendment - Six Bananas! .::. Size~: 31.68 KBNov 24 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @robmyers ♺ @cwebber: ♻ @candrews: Wow, spot on: http://min.us/iNdg0.jpgNov 24 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Adam Savage: TSA saw my junk, missed 12" razor blades - http://bit.ly/f8KKbq sublime *and* ridiculous #tsaNov 24 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adam Savage: TSA saw my junk, missed 12" razor blades .::. Size~: 30.01 KBNov 24 09:06
schestowitzTRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenStreetMap founder Steve Coast joins Bing - http://bit.ly/gN7VDb "Microsoft is donating their global aerial imagery to OpenStreetMap"Nov 24 09:07
schestowitzWhat an idiotNov 24 09:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle:         OpenStreetMap founder Steve Coast joins Bing - OpenGeoData     .::. Size~: 29.78 KBNov 24 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@nocturn re "@glynmoody @schestowitz Could we point them out that GNU/Linux is the vaccin?" I think they already know, due to complaintsNov 24 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Good Is Wall Street? - http://nyr.kr/eD5Uu1 “It is like a cancer that is growing to infinite size"; 1st-class journalism #financeNov 24 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wall Street, investment bankers, and social good : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 168.83 KBNov 24 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bkuhn bad when proprietary sw company buys one dabbling in !FaiF. #Oracle:Sun as Attachmate: #Novell. #swpats to #Microsoft makes worse!Nov 24 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @laurelrusswurm !Canada's TSA? no need 4 Parliament approval? ... http://ur1.ca/2ew8d #Cdnpoli > see? It spreads. Exported from WA.Nov 24 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canadian airport, port workers soon may have to take it all off .::. Size~: 206.25 KBNov 24 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Add-ons Review Update – Week of 2010/11/23 http://bit.ly/fYfDgZNov 24 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How predictable. Based on the mainstream press, cancer-causing x-ray scanners are now marketed as weapon against 'drugs' (exc. alcohol)Nov 24 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Mozilla Labs Night “Gaming Special” – Scrabb.ly Presentation http://mzl.la/i08H6gNov 24 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Miramar (Thunderbird 3.3) Alpha 1 available for testing http://mzl.la/fh5pTXNov 24 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] State of Mozilla, Processing.js, Jetpack, Mozmill, games, Input 2.0, Prospector, SUMO, and more… http://bit.ly/dNBCKKNov 24 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Add-ons Review Update – Week of 2010/11/23 «  Mozilla Add-ons Blog .::. Size~: 13 KBNov 24 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] What’s up with SUMO – Nov. 23 http://bit.ly/h6xzkWNov 24 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Labs » Gaming  » Blog Archive   »   Mozilla Labs Night Gaming Special  Scrabb.ly Presentation .::. Size~: 17.3 KBNov 24 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Developer News  » Blog Archive   » Miramar (Thunderbird 3.3) Alpha 1 available for testing .::. Size~: 21 KBNov 24 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: about:mozilla » State of Mozilla, Processing.js, Jetpack, Mozmill, games, Input 2.0, Prospector, SUMO, and more& .::. Size~: 24.58 KBNov 24 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SUMO Blog » Whats up with SUMO  Nov. 23 .::. Size~: 20.94 KBNov 24 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Does Not Need "Monetising" - http://bit.ly/hHqFgM important point from @webmink #opensourceNov 24 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The prohibition of alcohol commenced in Finland in 1919 and in the United States in 1920" http://is.gd/hGMw0 now they want to strip 4 drugsNov 24 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Does Not Need "Monetising" - Simon Says... .::. Size~: 54.15 KBNov 24 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Prohibition (drugs) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 179.59 KBNov 24 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hidden Michael Gielen Recordings on Spotify - http://bit.ly/ficDHg #spotify's search function is not of the bestNov 24 09:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spotify Classical Playlists: Hidden Michael Gielen Recordings on Spotify .::. Size~: 78.1 KBNov 24 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To paraphrase/twist/rebut the BusinessInsider silliness, should we strip 2 million people every day to prevent some kids from tkg drugs?Nov 24 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To discredit critics, Bush said "either you're with us of you are with the terrorists". Ppl imply drugs apologists take drugs. I never did.Nov 24 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sky.com goes open source - http://bit.ly/fNFHai rather amazing vote of confidence here #opensourceNov 24 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: opensourcesoftware .::. Size~: 6.73 KBNov 24 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Elected Republican Official stalks women he met online, carried a gun with him while doing it http://ur1.ca/2f49kNov 24 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Armed lawmaker stopped by police in Highland Park | StarTribune.com .::. Size~: 70.17 KBNov 24 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mass media finally realizes what I've been saying for years: investment bankers DO NOTHING USEFUL AT ALL http://ur1.ca/2f49tNov 24 09:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wall Street, investment bankers, and social good : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 168.83 KBNov 24 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody US alien tort law - A sword of international law blunted - http://bit.ly/e5RHhi so corps get best of both worldsNov 24 09:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Analysis: US alien tort law - A sword of international law blunted - Ethical Corporation .::. Size~: 30.88 KBNov 24 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm ♻ @maturano "Light is much faster than sound. That's why people appear to be smart, until you hear them speak." !qNov 24 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA behavior detection officer kidnaps, rapes woman before attempting suicide http://ur1.ca/2f4agNov 24 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hartsfield TSA worker allegedly abducts, assaults woman  | ajc.com .::. Size~: 50.79 KBNov 24 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] KDE Experts Needed for EU Research Project - http://bit.ly/dVRKMf "to assist research on free & open source software collaboration" #kdeNov 24 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] 'we' laugh at the wikipedia funding campaign ... because it works. we should mock success less often, even if it means less elitism.Nov 24 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Animal Liberation Front (fucking Tea Party) threatens UCLA neuroscientist http://ur1.ca/2f4amNov 24 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pornoscanner CEO flew with Obama to India http://ur1.ca/2f4b6 #douchebagsNov 24 09:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE Experts Needed for EU Research Project | KDE.news .::. Size~: 8.49 KBNov 24 09:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HIV attack on neuroscientist raises eyebrows - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 183.68 KBNov 24 09:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pornoscanner CEO flew with Obama to India - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 39.86 KBNov 24 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] but it works, not because it's wrong but because it is simple and directed to its audience. learn, not mock.Nov 24 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Racist Republican Judge going after falsely accused blacks in Texas even when Texas DA won't prosecute http://ur1.ca/2f4brNov 24 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Civil Rights, Judicial Bias Surround Texas Drug Case : NPR .::. Size~: 77.69 KBNov 24 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @psychemedia Martha Lane Fox's DirectGov 2010 report, and its response, in commentable form http://bit.ly/fBaJNv >>handyNov 24 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Spent an hour debugging, only to learn that KIO requires an KApplication. #themoreyouknowNov 24 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo +1 +1Nov 24 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  DirectGov 2010 and Beyond .::. Size~: 6.23 KBNov 24 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @gijs City of Poznan (in Poland) uses #Ogg vorbis to stream city council meetings http://tinyurl.com/38s3pkcNov 24 09:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PL: Poznań city's e-Government platform built on open source components &mdash;  .::. Size~: 28.91 KBNov 24 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Viewsonic and the GPL: Viewsonic is shipping Android devices without providing any source. http://goo.gl/6gnifNov 24 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Uto-Aztecan.org - http://bit.ly/dS8T7z "website devoted to the comparative study of the Uto-Aztecan (UA) language family"; cool #aztecNov 24 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Advogato: Blog for mjg59 .::. Size~: 14.88 KBNov 24 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Uto-Aztecan | A website for Uto-Aztecan Studies .::. Size~: 12.76 KBNov 24 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, finally decided to change my Wordpress blog to Joomla. The multilingual plugin on my company's site is cool.Nov 24 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Catching Up http://bit.ly/gKXthn #TechBytesNov 24 09:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Catching Up | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 20.32 KBNov 24 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apply for the 2011 Google Policy Fellowship with Creative Commons - http://bit.ly/eWgH1i dosh for doing good #google #ccNov 24 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] speaking of which, why do i only have a german wp page? ;)Nov 24 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HTC inks patent pact with Myhrvold's Intellectual Ventures - http://bit.ly/e69qU1 hey, please don't feed the troll #patentsNov 24 09:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Apply for the 2011 Google Policy Fellowship with Creative Commons - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 14.93 KBNov 24 09:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HTC inks patent pact with Myhrvold's Intellectual Ventures • The Register .::. Size~: 19.07 KBNov 24 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA agents don't even change their fucking gloves... the end of days will come from a biological contaminant via this http://ur1.ca/2f4fnNov 24 09:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Instapundit  » Blog Archive   » SEVERAL READERS ASK THE SAME QUESTION:Id suggest that anyone thinking of opting for the pat do& .::. Size~: 82.27 KBNov 24 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 1st #CC Salon in Montréal, Dec. 21. @celinecelines @msurman @rejon @christopheradam & YOU! http://bit.ly/g2p620 #ccmtlNov 24 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Al Fraken asks Justice Department to Investigate NBC/Comcast fail-train express http://ur1.ca/2f4fuNov 24 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I am a Self-Made » CC Salon Montreal .::. Size~: 10.56 KBNov 24 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Al Franken Asks Justice Dept. To Investigate Comcast - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 53.69 KBNov 24 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo You have a WP page? :oNov 24 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] MP in clueless-about-the-internet shocker http://bbc.in/gK3Gxd "opt-in for porn to protect children"Nov 24 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - MP calls for pornography 'opt-in' to protect children .::. Size~: 46.52 KBNov 24 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: RT @sehof: I'm curious whether we'll see more things like Google's 6 mil gift to keep a female engineer [...]Nov 24 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @rrix yes, but only in a language i don't speak or read fluently. the word is "irony"Nov 24 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nomalab: Body scans and genital fondlings would save more lives if our Government was paying to have them done in hospitals bit.ly/i7nnCRNov 24 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Excellent point from @jasonmustian - people in hospital compete for scanner time, life at stake & millions of deaths, no #airporn waste.Nov 24 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo [[Aaron Seigo]] => #REDIRECT[[Irony]]Nov 24 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dear #TSA - send us some more scanners to the hospital - multiple lives saved every week - guaranteedNov 24 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Scrap that, Just found a Wordpress translator plugin http://www.n2h.it/2006/08/20/wordpress-global-translator-plugin/Nov 24 10:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wordpress Global Translator Plugin | Nothing2Hide .::. Size~: 85.22 KBNov 24 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @fabsh @stav "That type of blatant gouging is one of the reasons I hate giving any of my money to Apple"~Debra Shinder http://ur1.ca/2ems2Nov 24 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Prakash Advani: A replacement for X finally! http://goo.gl/4tmCyNov 24 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 reasons I'm dumping my iPad for a Galaxy Tab | 10 Things | TechRepublic.com .::. Size~: 83.34 KBNov 24 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A replacement for X finally! | Prakash Advani's Blog .::. Size~: 58 KBNov 24 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @sebsebseb Awesome #Sky are now using #opensource #software for their #HD boxes: http://is.gd/hGULF #bskybNov 24 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Sky.com Open Source Software .::. Size~: 78.26 KBNov 24 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Launchpad edge site deprecated. http://goo.gl/mrwAn "The edge site is now running exactly the same code as the main Launchpad cluster."Nov 24 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Karsk: Make Finding Software/Driver Optimizations Easier: When publishing ATI Gallium3D benchmarks this week th... http://bit.ly/g9FvjMNov 24 10:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Launchpad Blog .::. Size~: 7.4 KBNov 24 10:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Karsk: Make Finding Software/Driver Optimizations Easier .::. Size~: 26.18 KBNov 24 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] So far, this week has encompassed #Python, #Clojure & #PHP - my brain can no longer switch gears, & just wants a rest :-/Nov 24 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] ♻ @schestowitz: #Android dethrones Symbian as the most popular smartphone OS in Asia http://is.gd/hGTVx #LinuxNov 24 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Android dethrones Symbian as the most popular smartphone OS in Asia  » Unwired View .::. Size~: 28.22 KBNov 24 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] RT @hook @royhugo You'd be better fitted with the Tron 1.5 "OST" ;) http://tron15.bandcamp.comNov 24 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Android Is - http://bit.ly/gLZ2mj v. handy intro (via @harishpillay @caostheory) #androidNov 24 10:18
schestowitz"Are tou sure you're talking to the right sebsebseb ?" https://twitter.com/#!/sebsebseb/status/7376227048357889 Heh.Nov 24 10:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tron 1.5 .::. Size~: 59.7 KBNov 24 10:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ongoing by Tim Bray · What Android Is .::. Size~: 17.94 KBNov 24 10:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/7374452580941824 "What would a hospital do with a scanner which shows you the surface of the body when they can just ask you to undress?"Nov 24 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 42.81 KBNov 24 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope they can build/assemble the scanners differentlyNov 24 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @popey When tomboy notes sync with U1 triggers conflict, I am all set to kill a puppy. This ruins my day, frequently.Nov 24 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lnxwalt140 Screening a total failure: http://is.gd/hGWoU #TSANov 24 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Waste of Money and Time - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 34.46 KBNov 24 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #techrepublic comment system is very annoying CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLOSENov 24 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "When people understand what Microsoft is up to, they're outraged." - Tim O'Reilly, now apparently paid by MicrosoftNov 24 10:29
ThistleWebschestowitz: we should do special shows on stuff like DRM, what it is and how it affects peopleNov 24 10:30
ThistleWebor DMCANov 24 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @webmink !Google apparently wants to donate #Wave to Apache: http://icio.us/scsehlNov 24 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @bkuhn] #RedHat folks point out #disturbing problems w/ #Diaspora: ur1.ca/2eynp . Let's focus on working distributed social network ...Nov 24 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WaveProposal - Incubator Wiki .::. Size~: 32.65 KBNov 24 10:31
schestowitzThistleWeb: sureNov 24 10:32
schestowitzSo we have next one on patentsNov 24 10:32
schestowitzThen DRM too at some stageNov 24 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Acer previews Android-, Windows-based tablets http://is.gd/hGXVG "...three Android-based devices and one that runs Windows."Nov 24 10:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Update: Acer previews Android-, Windows-based tablets - Computerworld .::. Size~: 82.31 KBNov 24 10:33
ThistleWebyepNov 24 10:33
schestowitzBut we need to also cover newsNov 24 10:33
ThistleWebmaybe would plan for roughly 2 eps per week, one special and one newsNov 24 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://goo.gl/VdaKD Community updates for November are out #iRailNov 24 10:41
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schestowitzThistleWeb: I could do one almost any timeNov 24 10:42
schestowitzQuestion is, who's on?Nov 24 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @agentsmith @dandart I fear for the future of our beloved GNU/Linux. Once you get to know it, you fall in love with it.Nov 24 10:43
schestowitz"Right. So what you really mean is "Spend the money on medical scanners which are nothing like security scanners"..." https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/7378278553747456Nov 24 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] ♻ @togetherworks Thanks 2 everyone from Greater Mcr #socent for turning up @madlabuk 4 #TogetherWorks 2010 + AGM, great event, great turnoutNov 24 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope you could make nice devices at all that costNov 24 10:44
ThistleWebor, we could have a format of news then discussion topic, where we stick to one suject, be it DMCA or whateverNov 24 10:44
ThistleWebone discussion topic*Nov 24 10:45
schestowitzyes, we need separationNov 24 10:45
schestowitznews, then topic of choice, something else...Nov 24 10:45
ThistleWebthat may work better than special epsNov 24 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] .@purpleoptic It can't be colder than my office :^)Nov 24 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @seeds ♺ @techglance: Baby's Birth Caught On Google Street View http://bit.ly/gDU6lJNov 24 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @SusanneUre: Woman jailed for getting pregnant in Pennsylvania dies from medical neglect. http://bit.ly/hxBUmc #US #fem2 !badNov 24 10:49
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schestowitzRT @silner If !Ubuntu ☛ really is moving to a rolling cycle that will be the first thing they've done, for a few months now, I've really likedNov 24 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Have your say in our next podcast's Open Ballot: Is a lack of games holding Linux adoption back? http://bit.ly/fcN8uaNov 24 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] All the big money seems to be going into "defence" (mostly euphemism for weapons), too little into health (pensions are too expensive!!11)Nov 24 10:51
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schestowitz!Ubuntu ☛ Becoming A Rolling Release Distro?!? http://is.gd/hGZNkNov 24 10:52
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schestowitz:-oNov 24 10:52
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Diablo-D3ubuntu is deadNov 24 11:00
Diablo-D3hurray!Nov 24 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Pacman Cemetary !comedian #retrogame #humour http://ur1.ca/2f4xvNov 24 11:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 'Squid worm' emerges from the deep - http://bit.ly/fyUzQi rather spectacular #natureNov 24 11:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I can buy online a free-pass card w/ annual subscription, ask a new card, but not recharge an existing one? #WTF ATM !milano #failNov 24 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @gnufreex @agentsmith Microsoft is a cancer that attachmates itself, in an extortion sense, to everything it touches.Nov 24 11:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Ireland subservient to business http://ur1.ca/2f54wNov 24 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @Act_on_Acta: Parliament vote on #ACTA joint resolution http://bit.ly/fjrKm5 starts at 12:00. Live at http://bit.ly/oaBYfNov 24 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] In this episode our hero learns how to use QJsonNov 24 11:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Hmm new cushions for my headphones are €20+€10 of shipment… it is bothering me not to be able to listen to music while working at 2am…Nov 24 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Good Night, Ingrid Pitt - http://is.gd/hH8ZjNov 24 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The world would be a much better place if people stopped top replying.Nov 24 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "The House That Dripped Blood" wasn't a Hammer film. I'm looking at you. NME...Nov 24 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Oh, we do talk about development releases once in a while, but *we* decide which. @methoddanNov 24 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @rms Ireland subservient to business http://ur1.ca/2f54wNov 24 11:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jerezim Joint #ACTA resolution rejected (we'll check the role of ALDE there!), terrible EPP resolution adopted.>>what a disaster #euNov 24 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Commerzbank analyst confuses copyright with patents. #FAIL #Oracle #SAP http://is.gd/hHcdkNov 24 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @rms http://www.stallman.org/harry-potter.html The Barry Trotter books are better: http://www.barrytrotter.com/Nov 24 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @craigelder @PBAge Amazing - http://www.mapnificent.net/london/ finds your best "halfway point" for meeting friends in town>>cleverNov 24 12:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://www.opendataday.org/wiki/City_Events - Open data day - Not 1 Belgian city in the list. Maybe a good idea for #0x20? #opendataNov 24 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @methoddan Oh I know you do and that's your prerogative :)Nov 24 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Damn. That Alpha of Diaspora seems to be what I missed in all other social networks. I like the aspects feature! A lot! @joindiasporaNov 24 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] I got 5 invites for the diaspora alpha left. Someone wants one?Nov 24 12:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Bailout justice http://ur1.ca/2f5mxNov 24 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] 5 minutes and I'm out of diaspora invites. Don't ask any more ;-) !diasporaNov 24 12:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] tinyvid just got a donation of 0.50 #bitcoin :)Nov 24 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Open-source social network Diaspora goes live - Computerworld http://ur1.ca/2f5quNov 24 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Cool! I subscribed to myself on identica to !diaspora: pieter@joindiaspora.comNov 24 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Microsoft supporting OpenStreetMap - http://is.gd/hHjvONov 24 12:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I’m working at Microsoft and we’re donating imagery to OpenStreetMap! - SteveC .::. Size~: 41.83 KBNov 24 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Open Data Day: 2010-12-04 - http://www.opendataday.org/ (via @pietercolpaert)Nov 24 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Unless I get the legal right to prevent other people from arranging their rooms the same as mine, I'm not tidying it up.Nov 24 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-11-24: Before the Junk Jokes: Airport Security Cartoons in The New Yorker Great selection that j... http://bit.ly/gLlD4rNov 24 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner I try to get a good mix in. So far, we haven't had many people complain about the news & releases selection on !LO. :)Nov 24 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "CEO of AttachMSFT, was sentenced to 10 days in jail for authorizing the 2008 slaughter of 32 of his neighbor's bison" http://is.gd/hHneGNov 24 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva Not so sure about that. When it comes to 50,000 words, even writing poorly can be tough. !nanowrimoNov 24 13:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @schestowitz "CEO of AttachMSFT, was sentenced to 10 days in jail for authorizing the 2008 slaughter of 32 of his neighbor's bison" h ...Nov 24 13:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/7383882437496832 "but you shouldn't promote a false equivalence that a tsa scanner is the same as a medical scanner, which you have been doing"Nov 24 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope I was not suggesting this, I think it's nitpicking. It's like me saying that as you use #hypePhone your opinions don't count much.Nov 24 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fontana but I can give an exclusive 2 you for region A and another exclusive 2 Jay for region B. Or 2 you for movies and 2 Ann for stage.Nov 24 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh. My. God......... Oo http://kuuuhn.nathansmith.me @bkuhn !loNov 24 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Meet the new head of Novell http://is.gd/hHphW http://is.gd/hHpkZNov 24 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attachmate CEO Jeff Hawn faces sentencing in bison slaying case .::. Size~: 52.82 KBNov 24 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attachmate CEO Jeff Hawn Pleads Guilty To Animal Cruelty « Meet John Song .::. Size~: 60.69 KBNov 24 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Petition to preserve the European Citizens' Initiative - http://bit.ly/h71gZ0 important new tool they are trying to weaken already #euNov 24 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Art magazines: stop covering popular music. Popular music magazines: stop covering films. Film magazines: computer games. Game magazines:artNov 24 13:28
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schestowitz*Sigh* "But you did - http://bit.ly/eLuC3n - The TSA have only one kind of scanner which is not of medical spec or useful." https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/7423469608239104Nov 24 13:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/7423469608239104 "And I answer on the device that shows a message first. The iPhone is beating my Nexus One and Galaxy Tab."Nov 24 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @robmyers MTV: Please show us some music videos ... ;-)Nov 24 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope I didn't specify what type of scannerNov 24 13:29
schestowitzHe uses an iPhone... power//hype before freedomNov 24 13:29
schestowitzAnyway, he seems only to ever try to heckle meNov 24 13:30
oiaohmIts the same drum beating apple.Nov 24 13:30
oiaohmMS DOS vs the MACNov 24 13:30
oiaohmintead its now.Nov 24 13:30
schestowitziPhone is not even betterNov 24 13:30
oiaohmAndroid vs MacNov 24 13:30
schestowitzHe oughtn't have bough oneNov 24 13:31
oiaohmOppsNov 24 13:31
schestowitzHe edits The HNov 24 13:31
oiaohmAndroid vs iPhoneNov 24 13:31
schestowitzAnd only ever nitpicks me postingsNov 24 13:31
oiaohmWho said it bought one.Nov 24 13:31
oiaohmand did not just get given one for free to review.Nov 24 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm Ah yes that is mine. I was looking for other lyric writers to promote and to get us all recorded too. that bombed.Nov 24 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Still Looking For Paradise? Maldives - absolutely ... - justpaste.it http://justpaste.it/5koNov 24 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "I concur with all Ruth's points here; open source projects don't have "private alphas" @webmink is spot on #diaspora http://is.gd/hHquBNov 24 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @jwildeboer video killed the radio... but © killed the video star?Nov 24 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Virtual Shackles - Expert Mode http://www.virtualshackles.com/163Nov 24 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “It just makes it even harder for people to even approach the (open source).. having to worry about ... public humiliation.” -Linus TorvaldsNov 24 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slayer Christmas Lights: this holiday house decoration totally shreds - Boing Boing http://ur1.ca/2f64uNov 24 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva Sometimes *just writing* is hard... have flu & kept falling asleep mid-sentence so opted out of last 200 words needed to hit 45kNov 24 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] wanting to stab web site developers at Amazon. First for Flash. Second for not testing with touch interface. 8 of 10 presses hit wrong linkNov 24 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Bill wrote it ...Bill was the jerk who wrote this brain-dead piece of shit.” --Microsoft employee Eller about Gates' codingNov 24 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Talk is cheap. Show me the code." -Linus TorvaldsNov 24 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I did realize that. I am trying to tell you that I thought *your* lyrics are good... i want to hear them as songs. They ARE musicalNov 24 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] well my long ass weekend unofficially begins.Nov 24 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thanks to the jobs I chose over the years I never had to write proprietary software, all my code is free(as in freedom). Reward breeds meritNov 24 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tiny Core Linux 3.3 released http://is.gd/hHrW4 light, powerful, truly modern kernelNov 24 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Gareth Halfacree takes a look at the final release of Fedora 14.... takes to conquer the desktop market… " http://is.gd/hHsd8Nov 24 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Salesforce.com Appoints Tech Heavyweight JP Rangaswami As Chief Scientist - http://tcrn.ch/ejrPKj let's hope the open source love continuesNov 24 13:44
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Salesforce.com Appoints Tech Heavyweight JP Rangaswami As Chief Scientist  .::. Size~: 55.72 KBNov 24 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "There’s a lot to recommend Fedora 14, from its well thought out security features..." http://is.gd/hHssD bravo, #Fedora team!Nov 24 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @penberg (on twitter) Linux Radio - Broadcasting the Linux kernel! http://bit.ly/fq30K4Nov 24 13:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Radio - Broadcasting the Linux kernel! .::. Size~: 5.39 KBNov 24 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm thanks then... hopefully someday soon... after *november* !nanowrimoNov 24 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick Look: #Pinguy OS 10.10 http://is.gd/hHsQu "Pinguy OS 10.10 falls somewhere between !Linux Mint 10 and Ultimate Edition 2.8"Nov 24 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Parliament fails citizens over ACTA - http://bit.ly/fPqzdC obviously forgotten who votes for them #acta #epNov 24 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] I thinks I should brush onmy C++ again, don't want to forget it or become rusty! ;-)Nov 24 13:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unarmed Royal Navy T45 destroyer breaks down mid-Atlantic - http://bit.ly/eJhZbd purely coincidental it runs Windows, of course #rnNov 24 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds I like that web comic seriesNov 24 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unarmed Royal Navy T45 destroyer breaks down mid-Atlantic - http://bit.ly/eJhZbd purely coincidental it runs Windows, of course #rnNov 24 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds I like that web comic seriesNov 24 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Wave to become Apache project - http://bit.ly/ej2gOB not drowning, but waving #google #apacheNov 24 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Amazing to see MSM not able to distinguish copyright vs patent infrigement in SAP vs Oracle feud - http://ur1.ca/2f6ai #fbNov 24 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram looks funNov 24 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @schestowitz Of all 4 companies that signed Novell-type !Linux deals with Microsoft (Turbolinux, Linspire, Xandros, Novell) none real ...Nov 24 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Trun gedit into C++ Compiler ! http://tinyurl.com/25mmxyf #blog http://bit.ly/gaxhJINov 24 13:58
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/7425221250260992 "And you accuse me of nitpicking :)"Nov 24 13:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #google needs search options like latest for image searchNov 24 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Freedesktop.org shenanigans http://lwn.net/Articles/416982/rssNov 24 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open source database new engine of France's social security - http://bit.ly/gbFXOH big win for #Postgresql #frNov 24 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android overtakes Symbian in Q3 as the war of the mobile operating systems continues in #Asia - http://bit.ly/dUnFDV the key marketNov 24 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] Now using #links as main browser on my XO. How nice the web is without all the active crap.Nov 24 14:03
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: GfK RT Global | Smartphone Value Share Reaches Nearly 50 percent in Third Quarter at USD 1.48 billion .::. Size~: 22.68 KBNov 24 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] HTTPS Everywhere gets Firefox "Firesheep" protection http://ur1.ca/2f6cz #security #httsNov 24 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @mohanpram: HTTPS Everywhere gets Firefox "Firesheep" protection http://ur1.ca/2f6cz #security #httsNov 24 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Poll: Fav Distro (Nov '10) http://is.gd/hHw1UNov 24 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @glynmoody: Open source database new engine of France's social security - http://bit.ly/gbFXOH big win for #Postgresql #frNov 24 14:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FR: Open source database new engine of France's social security &mdash;  .::. Size~: 28.24 KBNov 24 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody "According to the IT company, the Postgresql RDBMS at CNAF is run on servers using Red Hat Linux." Also #win for Red Hat :-)Nov 24 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hurt Locker Makers Sue Lawyer Who Helped ‘BitTorrent’ Defendants - http://bit.ly/gbs4if a new low... #bittorrent #hurtlockerNov 24 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay fixed #git to build with #gold…Nov 24 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @czajkowski: Students face police in tuition fee protest - http://is.gd/hHwUJNov 24 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] There's A Whole Lot Of People Coming Out http://bit.ly/hwwkZyNov 24 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] have #links on my N800 now. so nice all the information. none of the noiseNov 24 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Well done, Ajay, on passing your NPCC drill tests! We are all proud of you! http://npccsji.blogspot.com/ #fbNov 24 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz A Point That Deserves Illuminating: !GNU !Linux Is Not "I-Cant-Believe-Its-Not-Windows!" http://is.gd/hHwuJNov 24 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SJI NPCC .::. Size~: 73.15 KBNov 24 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] this is pure #awesome. I love it. I will start using it at work at some point prolly. ur1.ca/2f6i7Nov 24 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @schestowitz very true. :)Nov 24 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @freemor thanksNov 24 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] *IMPORTANT* Please RT! Time for People-Powered DEmocracy in #EU ur1.ca/2f6k5Nov 24 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "students caught with pencils after Nov. 15 would face disciplinary action for having materials 'to build weapons.'" - http://is.gd/hHAbfNov 24 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Insanity! Teacher Bans Students From Bringing Pencils To School .::. Size~: 32.87 KBNov 24 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Open source database new engine of France's social security - http://bit.ly/gbFXOH big win for #Postgresql #frNov 24 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Via @glynmoody: http://bit.ly/gbs4if lawyer asked damages for helping individuals protecting their constitutional right of fair trial #WTFNov 24 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus. Stop sending me "Cyber Monday" sale announcements! This is EUROPE! "Cyber Monday" sounds like a weird online sex event to me...Nov 24 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FR: Open source database new engine of France's social security &mdash;  .::. Size~: 28.24 KBNov 24 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Just tried !elmdentica with 1000 statuses visible and it worked ok :) huzzah! !identica !statusnetNov 24 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @carlopiana my first thought, too...Nov 24 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Open-source social network Diaspora goes live - (Computerworld) http://bit.ly/eCyaKmNov 24 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Is Diaspora too late | ZDNet http://zd.net/eESNlsNov 24 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OpenStreetMap founder joins Microsoft's Bing Maps team (H): http://bit.ly/fHuwxFNov 24 14:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenStreetMap founder joins Microsoft's Bing Maps team - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 36.85 KBNov 24 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @schestowitz no, that's only speculation, and we don't know the details yet. There is no official announcement either.Nov 24 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Google Wave looks set to be rescued by Apache http://ur1.ca/2f6onNov 24 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] @schestowitz: More than just Avatar, I'm lead to believe most of the higher end cgi and special effects movies use GNU/Linux.Nov 24 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SimplyMepis Celebrates 8th Anniversary with Release http://is.gd/hHCqV #mepis !gnu !linuxNov 24 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @OLPC: Philippines XO-1.5 Program Pre-Launch, on the island of Lubang #OLPC Photos: http://j.mp/evEcVuNov 24 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Understanding the Necessity of #Wayland http://is.gd/hHD2fNov 24 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Charity in the modern age: How do I give without getting got? http://ow.ly/3eSRpNov 24 14:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Tipps & More: Understanding the Necessity of Wayland .::. Size~: 99.09 KBNov 24 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] The !gwibber version that comes with !ubuntu 10.10 has a default refresh rate of once every 15 min? Who decided on THAT one?Nov 24 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Ubuntu To Turn Into A Rolling-Release Distribution?: There's been a lot of Ubuntu announcements coming down the ... http://bit.ly/goMWgONov 24 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @schestowitz Understanding the Necessity of #Wayland http://is.gd/hHD2fNov 24 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @pmctechblog: This would make some sense: ♺ @schestowitz: !Ubuntu to Become a Rolling Release http://is.gd/hHyzf is this for sure yet?Nov 24 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pmctechblog one person tells me it's confirm, another says the oppositeNov 24 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Anybody know how I can give a user the right to change bug importance for my project in !Laucnhpad....?Nov 24 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Anybody know how I can give a user the right to change bug importance for my project in !Launchpad....?Nov 24 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pmctechblog s/confirm/confirmed/Nov 24 14:54
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/PMCTechBlog/status/7446605120667648 "Chances are it's still in the bureaucracy stage. My only question is how well will they manage major changes users don't want." https://twitter.com/#!/PMCTechBlog/status/7446722049478656 "well that answers one question then."Nov 24 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Codepope [re Rolling Release #Ubuntu] ".. lot of work into in the next five years" says it ain't happening next year or the year afterNov 24 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Microsoft helping OpenStreetMap http://lwn.net/Articles/416994/rssNov 24 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Open Source Report: Attachmate says openSUSE is safe (Network World): http://bit.ly/egnrx6Nov 24 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nitrofurano we still have no powerful computers for running #Wayland - it's for 2020, not for nowNov 24 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good review that "Intellectual Property" is a total misnomer! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html #fbNov 24 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Foreign Transparency Policies the US Government Could Learn From - http://bit.ly/g6QheV nice to see UK doing something right for a changeNov 24 15:04
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Foreign Transparency Policies the US Government Could Learn From   Sunlight Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 32.37 KBNov 24 15:04
schestowitzhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/8143874/Rage-developer-interview-John-Carmack.htmlNov 24 15:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rage developer interview: John Carmack - Telegraph .::. Size~: 77.04 KBNov 24 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Enlightenment... Now Running On Refrigerators http://is.gd/hHHAm Anther !linux use case, shame it's #ballnuxNov 24 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Drastic cost cuts on the back of the citizens while the wildcatters get more and more bonus. Something is wrong.Nov 24 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is there not law violation in the fact that former Microsoft employees who run Amazon now pay Microsoft for another company's product (RHEL)Nov 24 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Dear LibDems.Wealth transfer can be a good investment when it's to the less well off as well as when it's to the super rich.More so in factNov 24 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Microsoft is not the next SCO, what was this whole thing with Seattle-based company buying Novell and Seattle-based MS taking the #swpatsNov 24 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free/Open source feats to be proud of http://is.gd/hHJht #freesoftwareNov 24 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Help review #CC Portugal's BY-NC-SA 3.0 license draft adapted to Portuguese law http://wiki.creativecommons.org/PortugalNov 24 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sky preaches benefits of open source http://is.gd/hHJlA #murdoch !linux !gplNov 24 15:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RedHatNov 24 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat must throw away its software patents or arrange a legal mechanism for killing them in case #Red_Hat gets bought. #swpats #oinNov 24 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @gnome Check out the latest !GNOME news; Design contest and new LWN subscription for Friends of GNOME!: http://blogs.gnome.org/found ...Nov 24 15:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tbilisi: tearing down the past - http://bit.ly/hJkRMp #Georgia commits cultural suicide by destroying its architectural pastNov 24 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tbilisi: tearing down the past | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 59.53 KBNov 24 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] @schestowitz: What do you mean by 'give up'? Is there legal assurance that no one else can 'pick up' said patents?Nov 24 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] TIL Stencil 2 http://pics.livejournal.com/gomyo/pic/0001ey59/g57Nov 24 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Parallel worlds: how connected Russians now live without the state - http://bit.ly/h1gmee "Russian authorities are like an analogue monster"Nov 24 15:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Parallel worlds: how connected Russians now live without the state | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 78 KBNov 24 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Parallel worlds: how connected Russians now live without the state - http://bit.ly/h1gmee "Russian authorities are like an ...Nov 24 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @FHM_RO: Monica Bellucci topless http://bit.ly/fmGghoNov 24 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @beginlinux: #Backtrack has got to be one of the coolest distros around. BackTrack 4 R2 was released yesterday http://bit.ly/hrmbru #linuxNov 24 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Government meddling is a danger to the Internet - http://bit.ly/fVr6Th maybe it should pass a law against itselfNov 24 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] ZFS For Linux Is Now Available To The Public!: For those with some extra time this holiday week in the United St... http://bit.ly/foiXIMNov 24 15:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] ZFS For Linux Is Now Available To The Public! .::. Size~: 19.03 KBNov 24 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RuiSeabra: RT @glynmoody Open source database new engine of France's social security - http://bit.ly/gbFXOH big win for #Postgresql #frNov 24 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is "penetration testing" just a euphemism for being on the pull? ;PNov 24 15:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pmctechblog no, that's the pointNov 24 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't try this at home: 5 minutes of 'fame'... in the dryer: http://is.gd/hHOO8Nov 24 15:54
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schestowitz"Doesn't GPL code deals with patents? It is only a matter of all code being covered by GPL." https://identi.ca/notice/59183292Nov 24 15:55
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schestowitzGPLv3 - yesNov 24 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @techmeerkat: First Monetary Penalties issued by ICO for serious Data Breaches read more at my blog http://bit.ly/fWOJWWNov 24 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] night of hacking is done. Hoping to finish all the awesome I worked on last night in a whileNov 24 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: SmartQ tablet support Ubuntu ! http://www.newpad.cn/archives/295.html http://bit.ly/fyPpXZNov 24 15:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 智器V3 迷你平板评测 | 创新平板电脑网 .::. Size~: 20.21 KBNov 24 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @phoronix ZFS For Linux Is Now Available To The Public!: For those with some extra time this holiday week in the United St... http:// ...Nov 24 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh not quite the Monty Python sketch with "Raymond Luxury Yaught, pronounced "Throatwarbler Mangrow" then lolNov 24 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb Barmy Fotheringhay Phipps.Nov 24 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Avatar: Made with #GNU #Linux http://is.gd/hHBbhNov 24 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] The microfinance fallacy - http://is.gd/hHRuPNov 24 16:09
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/59183902 "In GPLv2 there are some implicit clauses that brings (some) safety from patents."Nov 24 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @glynmoody interesting... Sky links to the FSD to define OSS. sadly, Sky didn't go FS (yet?), only 3rd-party repackaged sw is FreeNov 24 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 24/11/2010: #Avatar Reveals Reliance on GNU/Linux, Acer Distributes More #Android http://is.gd/hHSGUNov 24 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @glynmoody also, no word (AFAICT) about how to install modified versions of the Free Software on the Sky HD boxNov 24 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] #rpcbind build system rewrote… and it cross-compiles!Nov 24 16:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 24/11/2010: Avatar Reveals Reliance on GNU/Linux, Acer Distributes More Android | Techrights .::. Size~: 157.79 KBNov 24 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] So how exactly does foursquare and/or gowalla work ? !loNov 24 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat : Cowen Says Hold; A Buyout’s Unlikely http://is.gd/hHSBCNov 24 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] G'morning people! How are we hanging today? I am kicking off with my weekly call with the horsemen.Nov 24 16:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Red Hat: Cowen Says Hold; A Buyouts Unlikely - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com .::. Size~: 62.9 KBNov 24 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Filmul „Avatar”, produs în GNU/Linux http://is.gd/hHUj6 #gnu #linux #free #software #movieNov 24 16:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Avatar: behind the scenes at Weta Digital - Software - Insight .::. Size~: 99.15 KBNov 24 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Franța utilizează PostgreSQL pentru sistemul de asigurări sociale http://is.gd/hHUGo #fr #postgresql #sql #france #egovtNov 24 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #RedHat : Cowen Says Hold; A Buyout’s Unlikely http://is.gd/hHSBCNov 24 16:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Red Hat: Cowen Says Hold; A Buyouts Unlikely - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com .::. Size~: 63.03 KBNov 24 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Government meddling is a danger to the Internet - http://bit.ly/fVr6Th maybe it should pass a law against itselfNov 24 16:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                     Government meddling is a danger to the internet - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 57.22 KBNov 24 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The OpenAM finally started a mailing list independent from OpenSSO on Monday - already well-subscribed and busy: http://bit.ly/htC2TUNov 24 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Zece motive pentru care să renunți la iPad în favoarea Samsung Galaxy Tab http://is.gd/hHVTl #galaxy #ipad #samsung #apple #gadgetNov 24 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @glynmoody Good for Sky, but IMHO not anywhere as cool as !FS on .br Electrolux&ProFUSION's I-Kitchen fridge http://ur1.ca/2f4ytNov 24 16:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Microfinancing does smell of mafia-like methods sometimes. #godfather http://is.gd/hHWWiNov 24 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @jonobacon Apocalypse now?Nov 24 16:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: P2P Foundation  » Blog Archive   » The Microfinance Fallacy .::. Size~: 59.55 KBNov 24 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] F♥ck: #glibc does not compile the sunrpc crap if cross-compiling?!Nov 24 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @marcelobranco: LIVE NOW 1st time! President Lula da Silva from Brazil is interviewed by bloggers. http://ur1.ca/2f5ajNov 24 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ufa: Lula fala contra o AI-5 Digital \o/ - via @crisprodriguesNov 24 16:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Acompanhe aqui e comente a entrevista de Blogueiros com o Presidente Lula - OndaVermelha - #dilmanarede .::. Size~: 30.79 KBNov 24 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Is EtherPad packaged for RHEL/CentOS yet?Nov 24 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @rbanffy: ♺ @Tamosauskas: A primeira regra do clube da tautologia é a regra número 1 do clube da tautologia.Nov 24 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Testing my Comcast small business service connection: 23.15 Mbps down, 4.84 Mbps upNov 24 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Crosbie RT@RonPaulNews Stay Away From Airports http://ur1.ca/2f7z23 | LRC BlogNov 24 16:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Crosbie 'Domestic Extremist' state's label 4 thought criminals awaiting suspicion of terrorism #TSA = Totalitarian State AdministrationNov 24 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Downloading via torrent (legally!) "SXSW_2010_Showcasing_Artists". 3mb done, 5.5gb to go. This could take a while.Nov 24 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Control Points and Steering Mechanisms in Open Source Software Projects - http://bit.ly/gONcMU handy categorisations (via @caostheory)Nov 24 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Crosbie ResistTyranny Believe in the Constitution? Obama #TSA memo calls you "domestic extremist."http://ur1.ca/2f7zy #optout !privacyNov 24 16:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big Music attacks PC Mag, ignores RIAA, MPAA - http://bit.ly/i8kFQu oh, well played, sir... #hypocrisy #piracyNov 24 16:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: p2pnet news  » Blog Archive   » Big Music attacks PC Mag, ignores RIAA, MPAA .::. Size~: 46.83 KBNov 24 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Crosbie Idiocracy http://ur1.ca/2f81m depicts USA after all domestic extremists and other dissidents have been eliminated by the #TSA.Nov 24 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Italian Parliament Migration Plan goes on - http://bit.ly/f0JzI3 che bello #italy #opensourceNov 24 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @osamak I agree, but I have pretty much stopped making any effort to combat the problemNov 24 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @robmyers: Unless I get the legal right to prevent other people from arranging their rooms the same as mine, I'm not tidying it up.Nov 24 17:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Idiocracy (2006) - IMDb .::. Size~: 95.43 KBNov 24 17:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Italian Parliament Migration Plan goes on .::. Size~: 25.91 KBNov 24 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Big Music attacks PC Mag, ignores RIAA, MPAA - http://bit.ly/i8kFQu oh, well played, sir... #hypocrisy #piracyNov 24 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @p2pnet Big Music attacks PC Mag, ignores RIAA, MPAA. Limewire saga http://www.p2pnet.net/story/46026Nov 24 17:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: p2pnet news  » Blog Archive   » Big Music attacks PC Mag, ignores RIAA, MPAA .::. Size~: 46.83 KBNov 24 17:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: p2pnet news  » Blog Archive   » Big Music attacks PC Mag, ignores RIAA, MPAA .::. Size~: 46.83 KBNov 24 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Italian Parliament Migration Plan goes on - http://bit.ly/f0JzI3 che bello #italy #opensourceNov 24 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Harvard Divinity School Faculty Votes for Open Access Policy - http://bit.ly/hqLN1m insert obvious puns <here> #oaNov 24 17:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Italian Parliament Migration Plan goes on .::. Size~: 25.91 KBNov 24 17:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HDS - Press Release - Harvard Divinity School Faculty Votes for Open Access Policy .::. Size~: 11.11 KBNov 24 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz I'm not a claustrophobe, but I found the first few moments of video disturbing... I suppose they have to sedate ppl sometimesNov 24 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz (i didn't actually watch the whole thing, either)Nov 24 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz nah, there are mechanical text generators that generate perfectly fine nonsenseNov 24 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @lxoliva @glynmoody Good for Sky, but IMHO not anywhere as cool as !FS on .br Electrolux&ProFUSION's I-Kitchen fridge http://ur1.ca/2f4ytNov 24 17:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Page not found | ProFUSION .::. Size~: 4.93 KBNov 24 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @laurelrusswurm I guess you're just modest about how well you write ;-) sorry about flu, get better soon!Nov 24 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jonobacon *whooosh*. well played, sir, well played!Nov 24 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: European Parliament fails citizens over ACTA - http://bit.ly/fPqzdC obviously forgotten who votes for themNov 24 17:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Parliament fails citizens over ACTA - IpTegrity.com .::. Size~: 39.54 KBNov 24 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @lxoliva ♻ @glynmoody: European Parliament fails citizens over ACTA - http://bit.ly/fPqzdC obviously forgotten who votes for themNov 24 17:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Parliament fails citizens over ACTA - IpTegrity.com .::. Size~: 39.54 KBNov 24 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @harishpillay the article is full of such “inabilities”: IP, patents = copyrights, theft, liability for downloading: all pure nonsenseNov 24 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] ♻ @lxoliva ♻ @glynmoody: European Parliament fails citizens over ACTA - http://bit.ly/fPqzdC obviously forgotten who votes for themNov 24 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Parliament fails citizens over ACTA - IpTegrity.com .::. Size~: 39.54 KBNov 24 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft cuts a major feature (Drive Extender) in Windows Home Server (The Inquirer): http://bit.ly/gLuziVNov 24 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Wrote a long email in OSI Review, but realized it was too #controversial and flame-prone. So please thank me all subscribers, to have #STFUNov 24 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Wednesday http://lwn.net/Articles/417036/rssNov 24 17:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security updates for Wednesday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.67 KBNov 24 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #learningtips quality beats quantity. Take good rest, avoid long hours, 6hrs/day top. Distribute efforts over time, let info settle downNov 24 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is a pommiegranite either a) a fruit or b) an English imported stone that Aussies look down on as being inferior to their own granite?Nov 24 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: Red Hat must throw away its software patents or arrange a legal mechanism for killing them in case Red Hat gets boughtNov 24 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #learningtips the goal to study is to learn, not to appease one's conscience. The metric: what is retained, not how I deserve for hardworkNov 24 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jerezim RT @FelixTreguer: La Commission européenne doit agir pour protéger la #NetNeutrality http://ur1.ca/2f8da @laquadratureNov 24 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Heading to the east bay for a few hours of hacking code and squashing bugs. What's for lunch?Nov 24 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: La Commission européenne doit agir pour protéger la Neutralité du Net | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 30.23 KBNov 24 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] wishing Happy Thanksgiving to my American Friends & Family: new Oh !Canada blog post: Human Rights and the #TSA http://ur1.ca/2f8gj #cdnpoliNov 24 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #learningtips don't take learningtips from peers. A drowning swimmer is seldom help to another swimmer. My students are mostly drownersNov 24 17:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Human Rights and the TSA «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 47.47 KBNov 24 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Media Guardian Innovation Awards include open source category - pity the entry fee excludes non-commercial stuff: http://icio.us/qtuj4kNov 24 17:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Megas 2011: Technology Innovation categories | Megas | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 48.75 KBNov 24 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Have you seen our awesome superhero t-shirts? Yours w/ $75 donation, plus your gift will be doubled by Miraverse! http://bit.ly/9BUJjnNov 24 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @lxoliva /me = proud brother of Electrolux employee and friend of ProFUSION owners involved in this project :-)Nov 24 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Moral of the last two day - Do not use rsync for ext3 to fat32 backup. always use ext3 partition. http://bit.ly/gDST6NNov 24 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to rehearsals. First time in the theatre tonight....Nov 24 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @agentsmith tipo, ladrão que rouba ladrão? :-)Nov 24 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] magic 8 ball says "stop fucking shaking me, I have a hangover and am very likely to throw up"Nov 24 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @lxoliva Tipo banqueiro é mais gatuno que batedores de carteira... ;-DNov 24 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Italian Left Leader signs Berlusconi-like deal with Microsoft - http://bit.ly/eGOSGr for "Vendola", read "vergogna" #italyNov 24 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Get ready for my Ubuntu and community live videocast in an hour at http://is.gd/hixHX - bring your questions! #ubuntu #locoteamsNov 24 18:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Italian Left Leader signs Berlusconi-like deal with Microsoft | Stop .::. Size~: 28.87 KBNov 24 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Novell to retain UNIX copyrights - http://bit.ly/excnrY well, that's something at least #novell #unixNov 24 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] listen, #identica, I am *not* posting duplicate messages - just trying to get you to post it once...grip up, pleaseNov 24 18:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novell to retain UNIX copyrights - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.5 KBNov 24 18:14
cubezzzhey that's good newsNov 24 18:15
cubezzzI thinkNov 24 18:15
MinceRnovell as in attachmate?Nov 24 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] watched http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1167638/ real hardcore movie. loved itNov 24 18:16
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cubezzzummmNov 24 18:16
cubezzzyeahNov 24 18:17
cubezzzweird, I've never heard of Attachmate before thisNov 24 18:18
MinceRneither have iNov 24 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Seattle is only the 23rd largest city in the US.Nov 24 18:19
cubezzzbased in Seattle, hmmmNov 24 18:20
MinceRcloser to redmondNov 24 18:20
MinceRmakes senseNov 24 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am sure there are good arguments for and against, but I love the idea of a rolling !Ubuntu release.Nov 24 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] But we have the 4th worst rush hour traffic.Nov 24 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva fine and I wrote a program to do that years ago. but trying to do it yourself even while not shooting for quality can be tough.Nov 24 18:24
schestowitzMinceR: attached to MATENov 24 18:25
MinceRewNov 24 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva I have tried for a number of years now and can say from first hand experience that it can be difficult. !nanowrimo.Nov 24 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Amazon #1 Bestseller, “Machine of Death,” goes Creative Commons: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/25117Nov 24 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Amazon #1 Bestseller, Machine of Death, goes Creative Commons - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 14.67 KBNov 24 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva getting this quality can be difficult: http://baldynovel.blogspot.com/ do you consider that high quality?Nov 24 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I guess the point of the joke didn't come across :-( I'm not devaluing writing, I'm valuing writing wellNov 24 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody IMHO #AttachMSFT will offer SUSE+UNIX as a package soonish to $BUYER.Nov 24 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz heck, you know even monkeys at typewriters can write fast, and occasionally come up with something really goodNov 24 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz it's doing so consistently that takes great skill and effortNov 24 18:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva no, i get the point and to a point, i agree, but writing poorly can be difficult too. just going for that qty can gum things up.Nov 24 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera rolling as in "did you see that tumbleweed?" it could happen if they piss off more people than they gainNov 24 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #avidemux is one heck of a handy tool for avi2jpg/other, unlike all the Windows shareware that might be malware (avidemux is in repos)Nov 24 18:31
schestowitz"Probably because the torrent was most busy back in May; I got part 1 (3.6GB) of it back then." https://twitter.com/Codepope/status/7477915998494721Nov 24 18:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 fair enough. I was *very* unsure about posting it, but then I thought, "what the 'ek, go for it!"Nov 24 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer @glynmoody IMHO #AttachMSFT will offer SUSE+UNIX as a package soonish to $BUYER.Nov 24 18:33
schestowitzwow. oliva rt's his own employer's need to dump swpatsNov 24 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope there are still many seedersNov 24 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Smarter Integration of Web and Broadcasting: Second Workshop on Web and TV Scheduled http://ow.ly/1a90EMNov 24 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb: Would it be a choice or a forced migration?Nov 24 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz oh, no problem here, I'm adult enough to not watch a video i don't want to watch. :)Nov 24 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google Wave may become an Apache project (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/huRYpPNov 24 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] SAP fined 1.3 Billion US Dollars in Oracle case.Nov 24 18:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Wave may become an Apache project - Computerworld .::. Size~: 83.69 KBNov 24 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Another batch of #Honey&Mustard sauceNov 24 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] SAP fined 1.3 Billion US Dollars in Oracle case. http://ur1.ca/2f6ai #swpatsNov 24 18:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: REFILE-UPDATE 1-Oracle ruling tarnishes SAP's U.S. reputation| Reuters .::. Size~: 74.39 KBNov 24 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Best Video of the Year: Presenting… Sing Along With Airport Security! http://ur1.ca/2f8tf -- Thanks robomonkey! #TSANov 24 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: Have you seen our awesome superhero t-shirts? Yours w/ $75 donation, + your gift will be 2x by Miraverse! bit.ly/9BUJjnNov 24 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost a real shuttlecock would be an interesting "head"Nov 24 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] getting #openshot for video stuffs #debianNov 24 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] "The fire there might set you on fire" #CrapTheFamilySaysNov 24 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera choice of course lolNov 24 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] The verdict is clear. I don't need #failberry a/more. I use it only for voice. W/ only drawback of virt keyboard, HTC #Desire wins e/whereNov 24 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Novell to retain UNIX copyrights due to SCO case. http://ur1.ca/2f8v8Nov 24 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Alan Turing's papers fail to sell http://ur1.ca/2f8x1Nov 24 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Starting my Ubuntu and community live video Q+A now at http://is.gd/hixHX - join us and bring questions! #ubuntu #locoteamsNov 24 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ARM-Intel and the future of computing. http://ur1.ca/2f8z5 !fsNov 24 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At Home With Jono Bacon on USTREAM: Ramblings on community, Linux and technology from Jono Bacon..  .::. Size~: 47.84 KBNov 24 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intel Is Dead on the Desktop, Says ARM Co-Founder - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 68.07 KBNov 24 19:03
cubezzzhmmmNov 24 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Poll: Do you do any yearly charitable gift-giving? If so, how much? | Vote now at http://bit.ly/iceprbNov 24 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost interesting point, hadn't thought of thatNov 24 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] 37 minutes until 48 hour uptime on the server \o/Nov 24 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fontana yeah, I remember @bkuhn saying something like you're one of 3 leading lawyers who didn't do it. Kudos! :)Nov 24 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb: I had rather hoped that would be the case :)Nov 24 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes are you available today?Nov 24 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why the Euro Will Survive the Crisis. http://ur1.ca/2f93a #economicsNov 24 19:16
sebsebsebHiNov 24 19:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Europe's Robust Common Currency: Why the Euro Will Survive the Crisis - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International .::. Size~: 39.62 KBNov 24 19:16
MinceRhayNov 24 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jerezim European Parliament on its Way to Accept ACTA? http://ur1.ca/2f5mh (EPP resolution adopted) !ACTANov 24 19:18
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sebsebsebQUESTION:  Do you use Konqueror at all?Nov 24 19:19
sebsebsebwhoops wrong channelNov 24 19:19
sebsebsebplus wrong networkNov 24 19:19
MinceRi doNov 24 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Miracle cures. Surely that includes homoeopathyNov 24 19:19
sebsebsebMinceR: I am taking part in another jono ustream :)Nov 24 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch Artist Unions Call Government to Legalize File-Sharing - http://bit.ly/h9vltK but in "exchange", there would be a levy on MP3 devicesNov 24 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Dutch Artist Unions Call Government to Legalize File-Sharing | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 39.24 KBNov 24 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] My lost Cobol years: Integrating legacy management • The Register http://bit.ly/ejQyosNov 24 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Wonders if ICANN should consider a .sex domain rather than .xxx one ...Nov 24 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I think you're confused. I've not *been* a sysadmin since around 1999. Or maybe you mean I was being *treated* like one in 2006?Nov 24 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost if you have nothing actually wrong, and you're impressionableNov 24 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @bkuhn: It's not confusion.Nov 24 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] A brief message from Novell http://lwn.net/Articles/417061/rssNov 24 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A brief message from Novell [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.76 KBNov 24 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu is ‘not changing to a rolling release’ http://goo.gl/wjWdFNov 24 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Understanding the Novell Deal - ConsortiumInfo.org - http://ur1.ca/2f980 - excellent review of the 8k filing re #attachmsNov 24 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Cleaned house this morning, oddly relaxing. Then made brine for the turkey: saltwater with o.j., garlic, rosemary, a little thyme.Nov 24 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When the #BBC Talks About Computers It Means #Microsoft #Windows http://is.gd/hIsD9 #bias #msbbc #n00bbcNov 24 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] do dentist trainers do the "Tooth? You can't handle the tooth!" line on their trainees?Nov 24 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AttachMSFT, based in Seattle, to own UNIX. Now, does that make you comfortable?Nov 24 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @carlopiana Understanding the Novell Deal - ConsortiumInfo.org - http://ur1.ca/2f980 - excellent review of the 8k filing re #attachmsNov 24 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Understanding the Novell Deal (and when we'll learn more) - ConsortiumInfo.org .::. Size~: 74.34 KBNov 24 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Netflix turns from Oracle, IBM to Amazon to save cash - Computerworld http://bit.ly/g9jHC2Nov 24 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost I'd certainly agree that's the case. However, I don't like the state funding of waterNov 24 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Script To Automatically Apply the "200 Lines Kernel Patch" Alternative In Ubuntu http://bit.ly/eB4s5rNov 24 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu Becoming A Rolling Release Distro?!? http://bit.ly/fnPlT9Nov 24 19:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Script To Automatically Apply the "200 Lines Kernel Patch" Alternative In Ubuntu ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 66.74 KBNov 24 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] just looked at the dudalibre percentages. come on fedora, 2% We know you guys can do way better than that, DEBIAN is beating youNov 24 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] in fact, GENTOO apparently has more users, according to dudalibre, come on !fedora, get in thereNov 24 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why the iPad Newspaper is Doomed (Valleywag): http://gaw.kr/gkJvTvNov 24 19:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: #LibreOffice Beta 3 released http://goo.gl/91CnINov 24 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libre Office Beta 3 released .::. Size~: 37.39 KBNov 24 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @bkuhn: Is Nook also #drm defective? !dbdNov 24 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.36.1-libre, 2.6.35.9-libre2, 2.6.32.26-libre1, 2.6.27.56-libre4 binaries for !gnewsense / !yeelong now availableNov 24 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana @osamak what bugs me now is when someone writes "Comments inline!" at the top like they've invented sliced bread by merely DTRT'ingNov 24 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The GUI on the Star Trek computers looks to be badly designed and wasting a lot of space #itsajobforBDFL :)Nov 24 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Cage Against The Machine! 4'33" for Christmas Number One! http://icio.us/kkf5lsNov 24 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm with 73 dents!Nov 24 20:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cage Against The Machine! 4'33" for Christmas Number One! .::. Size~: 3.68 KBNov 24 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Now starting the live Severed Fifth update videocast Come and join us! http://is.gd/hiFT6 #severedfifthNov 24 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Attachmate to retain Novell Unix copyrights - (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/hHyyIsNov 24 20:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Severed Fifth: Live In The Studio on USTREAM: Tune in to watch the second Severed Fifth album as it is written, recorded and produced..  .::. Size~: 49.26 KBNov 24 20:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attachmate to retain Novell Unix copyrights - Computerworld .::. Size~: 80.22 KBNov 24 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I *always* forget Signed-off-by when sending git patches around… I wonder if it's just me…Nov 24 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Uhm finding a bug with #git send-email when sending an email for a patch to #git…Nov 24 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] if Linus accepts even GPL-incompatible, non-Free licenses in Linux, what's blocking the inclusion of ZFS?? http://ur1.ca/2f7y5Nov 24 20:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] ZFS For Linux Is Now Available To The Public! .::. Size~: 19 KBNov 24 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Realised talking to @laurelrusswurm that it was a long time since I had listened to The Decemberists, putting that right now #listeningtoNov 24 20:18
sebsebsebwhy did  the bot not show my message here hmmNov 24 20:18
schestowitzServices don't pipe it wellNov 24 20:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: what do you mean by that?Nov 24 20:18
sebsebseb!ubuntu 's @jonobacon says in his ustream that #ubuntu will not be going rolling release: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11063422Nov 24 20:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At Home With Jono Bacon - 24 Nov 2010, Q+A jonobacon on USTREAM. Computers .::. Size~: 29.08 KBNov 24 20:19
schestowitzIt's annoying to me too, like Russian roulette sometimesNov 24 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @hgfernan: O império contra‑ataca http://bit.ly/f4Yu4P <= Windows OEM customizado é Windows original? casada venda, enganoso reclame!Nov 24 20:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: O império contra‑ataca « Tecnologias sem Fio .::. Size~: 35.54 KBNov 24 20:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: shameNov 24 20:21
sebsebsebIt's nice when they appear here as well from bot :)Nov 24 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Truth about the #TSA http://ur1.ca/2f9l7Nov 24 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Ideology, I believe.Nov 24 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] EU passes bill supporting economic terrorism http://ur1.ca/2f9ia #douchebags #policestateNov 24 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tom the Dancing Bug: A Security Issue at the Office - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 18.56 KBNov 24 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Parliament approves once-secret ACTA copyright treaty | ITworld .::. Size~: 89.69 KBNov 24 20:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: good someone repeated that message as well, and I just noticed you repeated the Sky message :)Nov 24 20:27
sebsebsebI was just looking at repliesNov 24 20:27
Diablo-D3[01:46:33] <-- Toadyonps3 has quit (Quit: "If a tree falls in a forest, and it lands on Bill Gates, who wouldn't celebrate?)Nov 24 20:29
Diablo-D3best quit message everNov 24 20:29
MinceR:)Nov 24 20:29
MinceRthe TSA comic is good tooNov 24 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink huh? you mean, per his ideology, non-Free Software is preferable over Free drivers??Nov 24 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I see your show as entertainment and it is very entertaining. You succeed on your own terms. Otherwise you'd just be Distrowatch 2 :)Nov 24 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BlackDuck (Proprietary) Gets More #Microsoft Employees, Anti-FOSS Coalitions Forming http://is.gd/hIClP #swpats #oin #spikesourceNov 24 20:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Black Duck (Proprietary) Gets More Microsoft Employees, Anti-FOSS Coalitions Forming | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.53 KBNov 24 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How the #TSA is thinking [cartoon] http://is.gd/hICGS (Tom the Dancing Bug: A Security Issue at the Office)Nov 24 20:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tom the Dancing Bug: A Security Issue at the Office - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 19.86 KBNov 24 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @ruiseabra,I've been told: doesn't yet exist an eBookReader that is not #Defective_By_Design. I'm sure Nook is too;But that's orthognal hereNov 24 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz there is an article on TSA thinking and management at axis of logic lost link for the minuteNov 24 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] vyiopihfrdgbjjjg cfuihhv vxthNov 24 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA can only be defeated by angry white guys http://ur1.ca/2f9p6 #douchebags #chucknorrisNov 24 20:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA outrage critical mass: Angry White Guy Syndrome - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 25.12 KBNov 24 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: Sorry it is at foreign policy journal "TSA Gestapo Empire" http://ur1.ca/2f9qlNov 24 20:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA Gestapo Empire | FPJ .::. Size~: 76.05 KBNov 24 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva No, I just mean that the people in control of what gets included had an axe to grind against Sun but not the graphics chip makers.Nov 24 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #TSA's whole body scanners: the ugly facts. https://eff.org/r.3u4Nov 24 20:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Common Sense and Security:  Body Scanners, Accountability, and $2.4 Billion Worth of Security Theater | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 27.17 KBNov 24 20:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Xen Dom0 Support May Come Back To Fedora: With Xen Domain 0 support finally going into the mainline Linux kernel... http://bit.ly/giaBL6Nov 24 20:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Xen Dom0 Support May Come Back To Fedora .::. Size~: 18.2 KBNov 24 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I'm on fire today. Bugs, reviews, book covers, bring 'em on. ;-)Nov 24 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @schestowitz How the #TSA is thinking [cartoon] http://is.gd/hICGS (Tom the Dancing Bug: A Security Issue at the Office)<excellent!Nov 24 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tom the Dancing Bug: A Security Issue at the Office - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 22.8 KBNov 24 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera thanksNov 24 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Palin: 'Obviously, We've Got To Stand With Our North Korean Allies' http://is.gd/hIFHu #teaparty #ftw no?Nov 24 21:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Palin: 'Obviously, We've Got To Stand With Our North Korean Allies'   .::. Size~: 122.06 KBNov 24 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @glynmoody, but it is meaningless if #Novell is a wholly owned subsidary. Parent company can order them to do whatever they want anyway.Nov 24 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hmm @ #identica and it's tags I could have tagged my previous message as #ustreamNov 24 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @schestowitz: Palin: 'Obviously, We've Got To Stand With Our North Korean Allies' http://is.gd/hIFHu #teaparty #ftw no?Nov 24 21:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Palin: 'Obviously, We've Got To Stand With Our North Korean Allies'   .::. Size~: 120.22 KBNov 24 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @bkuhn of course...but that's a second-order problem: I was worried about the first-order stuff (I'm now worried about the 2nd order...)Nov 24 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @lxoliva, I've been urging #RedHat to do this for some time but it has been difficult to convince the their #swpats promise is inadequate.Nov 24 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @lxoliva OK, you win....Nov 24 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] yet another Microsoft only story with no mention of Microsoft or Windows from the #BBC http://bbc.in/hJAcdV it's getting patheticNov 24 21:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Facebook news feeds beset with malware .::. Size~: 49.5 KBNov 24 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink I don't recall any graphics firmware in Linux under non-Free licenses. the ones that are non-Free are missing sourcesNov 24 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink IIRC the first pieces of non-Free firmware to go into Linux were for SCSI and wired network controllersNov 24 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn same here :-(Nov 24 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @sebas #KDE release team newsflash: 4.6 Beta1 will be out tomorrow, expect some kick-ass new stuff :-)Nov 24 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Novell is dead and Microsoft has eaten its heart: The rise and long fall of Novell (ITworld): http://bit.ly/gGSi6iNov 24 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @glynmoody, yeah as @carlopiana points out, the #swpats situation w/ #Novell is the first order problem we really need to be worried about.Nov 24 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Foobnix 0.2.2 Comes With Lots Of Changes, Ubuntu PPA http://bit.ly/gLha9tNov 24 21:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novell is dead and Microsoft has eaten its heart | ITworld .::. Size~: 86.76 KBNov 24 21:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Foobnix 0.2.2 Comes With Lots Of Changes, Ubuntu PPA ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.07 KBNov 24 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @bkuhn agreed - I'll be writing about this soon.Nov 24 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] "Mandy, you came & you gave without taking" Matt Norman's bold idea to save @Ed_Miliband's leadership http://ur1.ca/2fa10Nov 24 21:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                 Matthew Norman: Bring back Westminster's Barbra Streisand -                    Matthew Norman, Commentators - The Independent .::. Size~: 113.62 KBNov 24 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How do #Novell employees like Michael Meeks feel about their software patents that they applied for becoming Microsoft's? #swpatsNov 24 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Seif continues his awesome work on a Unity people place! http://is.gd/hIJPQ #ubuntu #unityNov 24 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seilo @ Geeky Ogre  » Blog Archive   » Unity Place People  Day 3 .::. Size~: 16.31 KBNov 24 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #Inception is a nice !movie. So complex, but deserves being the fifth top movie in IMDB's list! http://www.imdb.com/chart/topNov 24 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IMDb Top 250 .::. Size~: 145.01 KBNov 24 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell employees turned the other way when I told them that with #swpats they were digging their own graves for paycheck. #RedHat listens?Nov 24 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "First time anybody scored since 1883!" ROFL! :DNov 24 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft Nabs OpenStreetMap Founder (PCWorld): http://bit.ly/ezo1JNNov 24 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @leinir There is so much shiny going on! ♻ @sebas: #KDE release team newsflash: 4.6 Beta1 will be out tomorrow, expect some kick-ass ...Nov 24 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Nabs OpenStreetMap Founder - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 64.96 KBNov 24 21:39
schestowitzblechNov 24 21:40
schestowitzNo susprisedNov 24 21:40
schestowitzThey have sucked up to them for a whileNov 24 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "downloading movies and music for personal use has been allowed under Dutch law", wait, what?! http://ur1.ca/2fa56 !fc !ccNov 24 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Collapse Increasingly Acknowledged by Mainstream Media While Microsoft Becomes #Patent Troll http://is.gd/hILgwNov 24 21:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Dutch Artist Unions Call Government to Legalize File-Sharing | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 47.2 KBNov 24 21:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Collapse Increasingly Acknowledged by Mainstream Media While Microsoft Becomes Patent Troll | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.59 KBNov 24 21:41
gnufreexWhen will Florian Mueller stop lying? He wrote another post claiming that Java is FRAND.Nov 24 21:44
gnufreexAnd hence" you can be GPL and FRAND"Nov 24 21:44
gnufreexHe says: "Speakers from US corporations (Oracle and HP) attacked FRAND from different angles and received support for this from the FSFE, a lobby group whose primary partners are IBM, Oracle, Google and Red Hat."Nov 24 21:45
schestowitzHe's an ****Nov 24 21:46
gnufreexThis is so crazy..Nov 24 21:46
schestowitzI don't want to even spend time on him, so I blocked his siteNov 24 21:46
schestowitzgnufreex: don't worry, he's ignored in FOSSNov 24 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Moodle 2.0 is now available! http://is.gd/hILM5 #moodle #gnu #linux #freeNov 24 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Sachs Investor Buffett Thanks "Uncle Sam" for Bailout http://is.gd/hILzl don't worry, Warren has a massive #PR operation run w/ BillNov 24 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Maybe Buffett will even pay tax one day, just like the 'normal people'. Meanwhile he has legalised tax evasion with Bill Gates. #loopholesNov 24 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Laura is an idiot #TheApprenticeNov 24 21:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moodle.org: Moodle 2.0 is now available! .::. Size~: 33.76 KBNov 24 21:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Flesh and Stone - Goldman Sachs Investor Buffett Thanks "Uncle Sam" for Bailout .::. Size~: 33.43 KBNov 24 21:46
schestowitzIt's just journos he spams (and Dana) who help spread his junk sometimesNov 24 21:46
gnufreexschestowitz: Yeah, but EU politicians listen to himNov 24 21:46
gnufreexAnd he is lying them.Nov 24 21:47
schestowitzRAND compatible with GPL, LOL!Nov 24 21:47
gnufreexHe went past spin, and now openly lying.Nov 24 21:47
schestowitzSo does Microsoft and BSANov 24 21:47
schestowitzA lone mobbyist won't do enoughNov 24 21:47
gnufreexYeah, but he presents him self as "FOSS"Nov 24 21:47
gnufreexAnd some beleive.Nov 24 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy Opt-Out Thanksgiving http://ur1.ca/2fa72 #thanksgiving #humanrights #boingboing #TSANov 24 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] New blog post: Exploring Art Data 4 - http://is.gd/hIMoG (with lots of lovely graphy goodness and R code!)Nov 24 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Happy Opt-Out Thanksgiving «  Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 56.04 KBNov 24 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exploring Art Data 4 - robmyers .::. Size~: 28.04 KBNov 24 21:49
schestowitzgnufreex: LOLNov 24 21:50
schestowitzVista 7 boy ain't no foss manNov 24 21:50
schestowitzHe never wasNov 24 21:50
schestowitzJust a liar like ACT]Nov 24 21:50
schestowitzIf FOESPatents is pro-FOSS, then I have a crush on Steve BallmerNov 24 21:50
MinceRlolNov 24 21:50
gnufreexHe lobbies against patents because he was MySQL AB shareholder.Nov 24 21:50
gnufreexNow he is probably MSFT shareholder.Nov 24 21:51
schestowitzhttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=long-live-the-webNov 24 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Thanks. :)Nov 24 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IPR and innovation: Evidence from the human genome - http://bit.ly/gJqV8A "Celera’s IP led to reductions in research" (via @wilbanks)Nov 24 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidmarsden I will always be able to say that I was at home on the night that Dimitar Berbatov tracked back to his own 18 yard box ...Nov 24 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Long Live the Web: A Call for Continued Open Standards and Neutrality: Scientific American .::. Size~: 84.92 KBNov 24 21:51
schestowitz^top manNov 24 21:51
schestowitzgnufreex: poor himNov 24 21:51
schestowitzNo wonder he hangs out with Dana :-/Nov 24 21:51
gnufreexDanna is apologizing for Microsoft now.Nov 24 21:52
schestowitzSelling MSFT share @ penny to the dollaNov 24 21:52
schestowitzgnufreex: yesNov 24 21:52
schestowitzCause it gets him comments=$$$Nov 24 21:52
gnufreexHe claims that Microsoft is buying patents from Novell for defensive purposes.Nov 24 21:52
schestowitzThat's how writers in ZDNet workNov 24 21:52
schestowitzANd that's why they provoke with oppositesNov 24 21:52
schestowitzLike that Don Reisinger trollNov 24 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: !Unity Place People – Day 3 http://goo.gl/lFXdcNov 24 21:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seilo @ Geeky Ogre  » Blog Archive   » Unity Place People  Day 3 .::. Size~: 17.48 KBNov 24 21:53
schestowitzgnufreex: noNov 24 21:53
schestowitzThat's PaulaNov 24 21:53
schestowitzShe wrote 3 posts about itNov 24 21:53
gnufreexYes.Nov 24 21:53
gnufreexAnd dana backed in commentsNov 24 21:53
gnufreexWith completely crazy argument.Nov 24 21:53
schestowitzTBH, I can't be bother writing about Novell ATMNov 24 21:54
gnufreex"To defend against trolls"Nov 24 21:54
schestowitzEVERYONE writes about themNov 24 21:54
schestowitzPeople got over-fedNov 24 21:54
gnufreexlike patents help against trolls.Nov 24 21:54
schestowitzDuhNa is just playing for provocationNov 24 21:54
schestowitzHe admitted this beforeNov 24 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] OMG who we have as parliamentary representatives! Hellzapoppin' foreverNov 24 21:54
schestowitzWith me -- I'm consistentNov 24 21:55
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/6756756969488384 "Received multiple requests for comment on Novell. But I don't see enough information out there to take a position now. Also, I'm traveling."Nov 24 21:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Florian Mueller: Received multiple requests ... .::. Size~: 9.42 KBNov 24 21:55
schestowitztravellobbyingNov 24 21:55
schestowitzthe travelling salesman... selling FUD to idiots who sign lawsNov 24 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I do not listen to classical music very often but LVB's 6th is a favourite, exquisite,powerful, and sometimes fat and bassy #listeningtoNov 24 21:56
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/6768808723218432 " Long day at IPR/standards conference I was interested in due to competition aspects. Will blog about it, too. Last panel was on FOSS  "Nov 24 21:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Florian Mueller: Long day at IPR/standards  ... .::. Size~: 9.42 KBNov 24 21:57
schestowitzTranslation: many hours on my timesheet due to need to increase anticompetive advantage of "My Client". Will spread lies soon. Last panel I had to pretend.Nov 24 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @MarietjeD66: Negotiating joint text among all political groups on ACTA on behalf of Euro Parl, difficult to find compromiseNov 24 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] New blog post: Art Freedom of Information Requests - http://is.gd/hIO2QNov 24 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @mjasay HBR: Did Google Arm Its Own Enemies With Android? http://bit.ly/huy6uu <good analysis, unsure about conclusions.Nov 24 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz RT @MarietjeD66: Negotiating joint text among all political groups on ACTA on behalf of Euro Parl, difficult to find com ...Nov 24 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Art Freedom Of Information Requests - robmyers .::. Size~: 26.6 KBNov 24 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Did Google Arm Its Own Enemies With Android? - James Allworth - The Conversation - Harvard Business Review .::. Size~: 47.19 KBNov 24 22:01
schestowitz"Reality seems like an #ecis stimulus and #FFII fundraising effort http://www.ffii.org/Donations " http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/6836169727807488Nov 24 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Donations - FFII .::. Size~: 16.1 KBNov 24 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / FFII e.V.: @jwildeboer Reality seems  ... .::. Size~: 12.7 KBNov 24 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Understanding the Novell Deal - ConsortiumInfo.org - http://ur1.ca/2f980 - excellent review of the 8k filing re #attachms /via @carlopianaNov 24 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Rather unusual firing in #TheApprenticveNov 24 22:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Understanding the Novell Deal (and when we'll learn more) - ConsortiumInfo.org .::. Size~: 79.65 KBNov 24 22:03
schestowitzhttp://acta.ffii.org/wordpress/?p=234Nov 24 22:03
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/6841455444234240 "Top FFII.org search: Pokemon Misty ?! http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ffii.org #japan"Nov 24 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Student demos in Twitter age: no leaders, only chatter - http://bit.ly/gcXLux "hard to identify 'ringleaders'" (via @calixte)Nov 24 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jwildeboer: Understanding the Novell Deal - ConsortiumInfo.org - http://ur1.ca/2f980 - excellent review of the 8k filing re #attachmsNov 24 22:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 24 22:05
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/7120256069804033 "During this evening EP question would the Commission admit that #ACTA changes the ACQUIS?"Nov 24 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII Where is the #ACTA tweetmob when we need it?Nov 24 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EU Parliament approves once-secret #ACTA copyright treaty http://is.gd/hIOUD see the comments. Disgraceful. The #TSAofCopyright (pats & tms)Nov 24 22:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / FFII e.V.: During this evening EP que ... .::. Size~: 12.42 KBNov 24 22:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Parliament approves once-secret ACTA copyright treaty | ITworld .::. Size~: 86.51 KBNov 24 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] My !LO ad for our program for the Richard play. !Sixgun #RichardIII #BUSC http://ur1.ca/2fadkNov 24 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Jury gives Oracle $1.3 billion in copyright damages from SAP http://ur1.ca/2fadnNov 24 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] time to get creative with #linux before the day diesNov 24 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] A racist twat has been removed from the European Parliament after shouting a nazi slogan. Not surprisingly, he was a UKIP MEPNov 24 22:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/fabsh-20101124T220400-wgvalp2.png - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.02 KBNov 24 22:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jury gives Oracle $1.3 billion in copyright damages from SAP .::. Size~: 30.84 KBNov 24 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @glynmoody @calixte: Student demos in Twitter age: no leaders, only chatter http://bit.ly/gcXLux hard to identify 'ringleaders'Nov 24 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Student demos in Twitter age: no leaders, only chatter | Education | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 84.39 KBNov 24 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] To Europe, from Britain: These racist twats in the #UKIP party do not speak for usNov 24 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for November 25, 2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/416077/rssNov 24 22:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII #ACTA means more #SAP #Oracle insanity. #Copyright infringement.Nov 24 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII #EP clowns obstruct the European Parliament business and insult Martin SchulzNov 24 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII What is going on in the European Parliament? The UKIP shouts. Great Parliament chair!Nov 24 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII Daul defends the democratic dignity of the house against the #UKIP #Bloom offences, 5 minutes suspension. #epp > could be #BNP :-/Nov 24 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Xen Ready For Fedora 15? http://ping.fm/vq8cnNov 24 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] So if this patents arms race and early border wars (especially in phones) becomes much worse can we expect a legislative backlash? #swpatsNov 24 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #Linux is the only animal in the crowd. windows is a house part and apple is a fruit.Nov 24 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Xen Ready For Fedora 15? | 若有所思&&若有所想 .::. Size~: 36.18 KBNov 24 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII Video of the #UKIP #Bloom misconduct http://is.gd/hIQoN #anarchy #epNov 24 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Lifehacker: How to Triple Boot Your Hackintosh with Windows and Linux http://ping.fm/eYMncNov 24 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I feel sick, my BP seems to be through the roof…Nov 24 22:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom ejected over Nazi jibe  .::. Size~: 56.13 KBNov 24 22:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to Triple Boot Your Hackintosh with Windows and Linux .::. Size~: 94.19 KBNov 24 22:16
schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11828319Nov 24 22:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom ejected over Nazi jibe  .::. Size~: 56.06 KBNov 24 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @carlopiana what concerns most of us is what will happen of the #swpats. Unix copyright is largely irrelevant these days ( #SCO docet)Nov 24 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #KelvinMcKensie got a bigger boo for saying #StuartBaggs is good than for saying #torture is good #ThisIsDepressingNov 24 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @osamak no © license required to e.g. visit a web page that commands *download* and private *performance* of movie or songNov 24 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @osamak not to be confused with *distributing* or *transmitting* the video or tune. © has a say on that, but that's *up*loadingNov 24 22:24
MinceR(flash) (video) (audio) http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ac0caf1f34/your-my-documents-from-back-of-the-classNov 24 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Your My Documents from Back of the Class .::. Size~: 252.75 KBNov 24 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Jolicloud beats Chrome OS http://ur1.ca/2fajfNov 24 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz EU Parliament approves once-secret #ACTA copyright treaty http://is.gd/hIOUD see the comments. Disgraceful. The #TSAofCo ...Nov 24 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Pirate Party's North American Debut http://ur1.ca/2fajv (via @slashdot)Nov 24 22:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jolicloud beats Chrome OS .::. Size~: 39.26 KBNov 24 22:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Parliament approves once-secret ACTA copyright treaty | ITworld .::. Size~: 87.26 KBNov 24 22:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pirate Party's North American Debut - Slashdot .::. Size~: 48.91 KBNov 24 22:28
gnufreexschestowitz: lol, (on FM translation)Nov 24 22:29
gnufreexso trueNov 24 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Tutorials and Tips - Ubuntu: Now I can forget about Logmein! http://ping.fm/XOs7PNov 24 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tutorials and Tips - Ubuntu: Now I can forget about Logmein! .::. Size~: 65.23 KBNov 24 22:29
gnufreexschestowitz: btw, how your work on GNU octave goes? Are you contributing something?Nov 24 22:30
schestowitzbug reportsNov 24 22:31
schestowitzSee my blog for exampleNov 24 22:31
schestowitzI also use scilab a littleNov 24 22:31
schestowitzhttp://blogs.computerworld.com/17416/who_really_bought_novell_microsoftNov 24 22:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who really bought Novell? Microsoft. - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 77.88 KBNov 24 22:32
gnufreexReading your blog now.Nov 24 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ODF usergroup started http://is.gd/hISVr viaNov 24 22:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ODF usergroup started | Open Document .::. Size~: 13.01 KBNov 24 22:34
schestowitzoctave's image stuff seems to leak tons of memoryNov 24 22:36
schestowitzIt's annoyingNov 24 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Travel safely during the holidays! Here's EFF's guide to protecting your electronics and data at the U.S. border. https://eff.org/r.1u5Nov 24 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The latest update (3) to Apple's Java causes problems with the Mac OS X version of OOo 3.x." http://is.gd/hIT3l !loNov 24 22:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF's Guide to Protecting Electronic Devices and Data at the U.S. Border  | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31.33 KBNov 24 22:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ooo-speak: Apple's Java and OOo 3.... .::. Size~: 16.45 KBNov 24 22:36
schestowitzMy session is very slow after using itNov 24 22:36
gnufreexWell, is Octave leaking or something else? If it is octave, leak should go away after exiting the program.Nov 24 22:37
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schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/11/rovios-angry-birds-wont-fly-on-slow-android-devices.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssNov 24 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rovio's Angry Birds won't fly on slow Android devices .::. Size~: 31.36 KBNov 24 22:45
schestowitzCrap gameNov 24 22:45
schestowitz_Goblin:Nov 24 22:45
schestowitzLet's do a fast recordingNov 24 22:45
_Goblinhello mateNov 24 22:45
schestowitzmaybe half an hour?Nov 24 22:45
schestowitzgnufreex: imagemagickk I thinkNov 24 22:45
schestowitzWhen I close image windows they stay in RAM or somethingNov 24 22:46
_Goblincan't sorry....skype me and you'll hear why...Nov 24 22:46
schestowitzI can imagine...Nov 24 22:47
sebsebsebhi _GoblinNov 24 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Re UKIP bad behaviour, they are on the whole boorish, nasty, arrogant public schoolboy bankers. http://ur1.ca/2fap2Nov 24 22:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Nigel Farage harangues EU President Herman van Rompuy   .::. Size~: 156.2 KBNov 24 22:48
schestowitzI see...Nov 24 22:48
_Goblin:)Nov 24 22:49
_Goblinsorry mate...Nov 24 22:49
_Goblinshould be sorted in a day.Nov 24 22:49
_Goblinhi sebsebsebNov 24 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Seems auto-load doesn't work on Identi.Ca via https (using HTTPS Everywhere) - is that right, @support, or am I missing something?Nov 24 22:51
cubezzzthinking about doing an audio blog on control mechanismsNov 24 22:51
_Goblin:)Nov 24 22:53
_Goblinaudio is the new blogging!Nov 24 22:53
_Goblinto be fair its probably a far better way to convey more information and more belief than textNov 24 22:54
cubezzzsure, tone of voice for one thingNov 24 22:54
schestowitz_Goblin: yes, speedNov 24 22:54
schestowitzNo proofreading neededNov 24 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] RT @MadMenTweets RT @EmerMcCourt 'Well, I gotta go learn a bunch of people's names before I fire them' #MadMenNov 24 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera UKIP have always been the facist end of the Tories, when the Tories don't go far enough right, there's UKIPNov 24 22:54
cubezzz I like to do 2 or 3 takes thoughNov 24 22:55
_Goblincubezzz: if you are think of doing just small bites of "audio blog" look at Audioboo its a good service and is sort of like a Twitter for short audiocasts.Nov 24 22:55
cubezzz_Goblin, lately I've been using audacityNov 24 22:56
cubezzzbut I'll check audiobooNov 24 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera then right next door to them, if that isn't far enough to the right, there's the BNPNov 24 22:56
cubezzzmy stuff is mosty 1/2 hour or less at a timeNov 24 22:56
_Goblinhttp://audioboo.fm/Nov 24 22:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Audioboo .::. Size~: 9.59 KBNov 24 22:57
_GoblinI think though there is a 5 min time limit....Nov 24 22:57
cubezzzwell I own my own host so... :)Nov 24 22:57
ThistleWeb5min limit? sheesh, there goes the introNov 24 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] What an overconfident git http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10689682 !rugbyNov 24 22:58
cubezzzbandwidth isn't that much either, my blog doesn't get many hitsNov 24 22:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chris Rattue: Grand Slam more like a Grand Snore - Sport - NZ Herald News .::. Size~: 78.96 KBNov 24 22:58
_Goblinyeah and pretty much everything else!Nov 24 22:58
cubezzzexcept for episode #2 for some reasonNov 24 22:58
_Goblinschestowitz: Are you still running with a show tonight?Nov 24 22:58
ThistleWeb_Goblin: recording tomorrow?Nov 24 22:58
schestowitz_Goblin: without you it's hardNov 24 22:59
schestowitzit's up to ThistleWebNov 24 22:59
_GoblinGordon, would you mind switching into our show channel a minute?Nov 24 22:59
schestowitzI can do a quick oneNov 24 22:59
ThistleWebsureNov 24 22:59
cubezzzlsNov 24 22:59
schestowitzDIR/WNov 24 23:00
cubezzzyeah wrong keyboard, I have keyboards all over the placeNov 24 23:00
MinceRgnNov 24 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OooOOooooOoh so tired. Sleep.......Nov 24 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] "Students and freelance placard wavers" - classic casual scorn from Paxman on @BBCNewsnightNov 24 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb Those people really love their tribalism.Nov 24 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft may have bought out a lawsuit for its offences http://is.gd/hIXzQ #whitecollar #antitrust #abuse #crimeNov 24 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @nhandler: LWN: State of the Debian-Ubuntu Relationship: http://is.gd/hIX7iNov 24 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft May Get WordPerfect Patents From Novell | eWEEK Europe UK .::. Size~: 34.88 KBNov 24 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: State of the Debian-Ubuntu relationship [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 20.79 KBNov 24 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] There such a thing as being a bad loser, not that #Scotland can really be called that due to not winninNov 24 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] "The Synod of the Church of England spent another day gazing at its navel today"- Paxman continues the good-humoured bileNov 24 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] I didn't know ther were 1.5 million deployments of OLPC - http://is.gd/hIXG8Nov 24 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The desktop market share | What Will We Use on June 30, 2011? .::. Size~: 52.25 KBNov 24 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Asus announces [Linux-based] eReader-notepad hybrid http://is.gd/hIYbw still can't leave !Linux alone (yet FUDing it for Microsoft)Nov 24 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Ubuntu is ‘not changing to a rolling release’ http://is.gd/hIYlh #rumourNov 24 23:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Asus announces eReader-notepad hybrid - DriversHQ.com .::. Size~: 30.02 KBNov 24 23:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu is not changing to a rolling release .::. Size~: 51.61 KBNov 24 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] The @BBCNewsnight debate on what to do w church buildings reminds me of the destruction on Catherine St, Lpl, & community wishes confoundedNov 24 23:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] UserFriendly.org seems to have returned since early Aug. No more 'This toon is a repeat' http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20100802Nov 24 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] XHTML 1.1, XHTML Basic 1.1, XHTML Print Recommendations Revised http://ow.ly/1a9eYbNov 24 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle:         W3C News Archive: 2010      W3C   .::. Size~: 217.96 KBNov 24 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] We met the Miraverse's matching challenge! Thanks to all who donated over past week & had your gift doubled http://bit.ly/hNPexdNov 24 23:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   We met The Miraverses matching giving challenge! Thank you! - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 13.53 KBNov 24 23:32
gnufreexWow, I just now saw on DanaNov 24 23:40
gnufreexblogNov 24 23:40
gnufreexFlorian mUeller convinced him to bash GroklawNov 24 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Oh no..Ive just been asked the loaded question from the wife "Do you know whats special about this friday".......help.....Nov 24 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Not had time for a proper blog of #TogetherWorks at @MadLabUK - just jotted a couple of points at http://goodgnus.org/Nov 24 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] F1: sharing links even faster and easier http://mzl.la/f0chCxNov 24 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] A lower level: Making jsGB http://mzl.la/fjZraMNov 24 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes LMAO you are your own :)Nov 24 23:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GoodGNUs   .::. Size~: 115.21 KBNov 24 23:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Labs » Messaging Add-ons  » Blog Archive   » F1: sharing links even faster and easier .::. Size~: 17.69 KBNov 24 23:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Labs » Gaming  » Blog Archive   » A lower level: Making jsGB .::. Size~: 19.79 KBNov 24 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I've run through the list of things: Birthdays, wedding day.....I think Im going to have to come clean and admit I don't know.Nov 24 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] You know !lca2011 will be an amazing collection of linux.conf.au magic in Beautiful Brisbane! Tell everyone! Grab you registration now!Nov 24 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So what is so special (According to my wife) about Friday....stay tuned to find out..and why is it that wives are so good at remembering?Nov 24 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @openbytes the anniversary of the day you caught me out with the same question?, coinciding with the anniversary of me sleeping on the couchNov 24 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] AH...Its the day we first met...Friday Nov 26th....Nov 24 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @thistleweb lol...actually Ive got away with it.....she seems quite forgiving...Nov 24 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I was just listening to the !lo Kindle special @fabsh and the deal breaker for me is the restriction on lending. How can students use that?Nov 24 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] TalkingNov 24 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes Women remember very well because they view it as ammunition, never leave a loaded gun in the house.Nov 24 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !lo Students clearly need to lend books for longer than 14 days and have always been able to up to now. This restriction is new to ebooksNov 24 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera aka "remember your browser has porn mode"Nov 24 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !lo Add to that the fact you can't presumably resell text books and you have two serious inconveniences. This is why print will surviceNov 24 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @thistleweb @openbytes You could always try "there are no teleological markers in life it's just a random stream" :)Nov 24 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @silner just don't cross 'em, ya have seen the training video called Ghostbusters right? ;PNov 24 23:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb There's porn on the net?Nov 24 23:59

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