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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm PS started reading that book today, funny that the first part is all about communication :)Dec 18 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @WikiAdvocate Thanks, James! RT @JamesJohnsonCHR #AssangeBailHearing NO Twitter Ruling ILLEGAL! .. http://reut.rs/dSLb1SDec 18 00:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rysiek "Now Facebook is the bottle, and we're the genie. How small are we willing to make ourselves to fit inside?" !qDec 18 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera It's been a very long time since I've read Stranger. I can't get over the fact I've been reading same novel for MONTHS.Dec 18 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana According to Mark, Ubuntu 11.10 will be 'Obese Oyster'.Like it.Better than 'Puky Pig' for 12.04.Don't shout it around just nowDec 18 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @glynmoody That article is so rambling and strung together that it's very hard to believe. The Guardian calls this journalism? For shame!Dec 18 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @trondau European Interoperability Framework - a new beginning? http://bit.ly/dJlA83 #openstandards #interoperability #EIF // derailedDec 18 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm What have you been reading for months?Dec 18 00:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Alien Arena 2011 Game Released http://is.gd/iVtgC something for XmasDec 18 00:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Cryptonomicon. I'm enjoying it, but it's literally a half page here & there; unexpected humour. The author's a bit showy tho.Dec 18 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For those who missed it, SAP ('Microsoft of Europe') and Microsoft lobbyists worked to derail #EIF w/ #swpatsDec 18 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ karsten "formalised specifications" is new EU term for "standards". I'm impressed with Europe's innovative capacity here.Dec 18 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ jwildeboer #EIFv2 is out, Open Standards win. Open source wins. But FRAND still allowed w/o any definition.Dec 18 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer #EIFv2 is out, Open Standards win. Open source wins. But FRAND still allowed w/o any definition.Dec 18 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Lunar eclipse and Winter solstice coincide Monday night. http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/17dec_solsticeeclipse/Dec 18 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @karsten #EIFv2: patents in "open specifications" must be licensed so that spec can be implemented in Free Software, even if FRANDDec 18 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @glynmoody @fabsh @kevie Youhave no idea how worse elsewhere. I'll trade you the wretched Canadian Globe&Mail for The Guardian any day.Dec 18 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm Sounds like you chose a novel sponsored by bitcoin. Very topical.Dec 18 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @laurelrusswurm Well that article wasn't an article at all. They just stated some records. They pay their people for thsi crap???Dec 18 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana I don't see in #EIF a mandate to re-use existing open standards when available. Departure from good practice in spec setting.Dec 18 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Council text on web blocking - breaking the law to fight crime http://is.gd/iVuM3 learning from #china - this is progress?Dec 18 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz ♺ karsten "formalised specifications" is new EU term for "standards". I'm impressed with Europe's innovative capacity here.Dec 18 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer I am not 100% happy with #EIFv2, but BSA and other MSFT proxies seem to be really furious. So it must be good ;-) #bsa #swpatsDec 18 00:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ah, the old "you can of course change it" argument. Whenever I'm faced with that I wonder why we spend time designing stuff at all.Dec 18 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @webmink @jwildeboer On the contrary, FRAND has been defined implicitly as "FOSS compatible". That's a huge win. #eif #swpats #eu #eifv2Dec 18 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana If this was the #EIF we were making a big deal about, I fear that we have lost time on both sides.Dec 18 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The return on investment (RoI) in legalised corruption (lobbying) is huge & Microsoft has been trying to change words in #EIF via @actonlineDec 18 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin I wonder, if you really think that upstream wallpaper idea was a good one, why haven't we talked about this before? !fedoradesignDec 18 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh When you consider that every scrap of the tawdry tale is being mined for various agendas, it makes perfect sense though.Dec 18 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Scientic journalism: give people the facts and let them decide... even if the facts are "she said" "he said" "she said"Dec 18 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Courtroom sketches of Julian Assange http://is.gd/iVvON this is hilarious. No horns drawn, yet?Dec 18 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @laurelrusswurm No, it doesn't. If these people get payed for this shit, I ought to be a millionaire. It makes no sense at all!Dec 18 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @laurelrusswurm That isn't journalism. That is just writing down stuff. A 12 year old can do that...Dec 18 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad second meeting of the Beijing #MeeGo Network http://ur1.ca/2lq8oDec 18 00:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera What's bitcoin ? Actually it was a gift. It's a good thing to be reading now tho because drastically different from what I write.Dec 18 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz Courtroom sketches of Assange http://is.gd/iVvON this is hilarious. No horns drawn, yet? // I'm waiting 4 Hitler moustache...Dec 18 00:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm I looked up the name of the novel, wait I will find url for youDec 18 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh We're lucky to get the odd fact reported in our Canadian newspapers.Dec 18 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "It's the Guardian, it's gotta be journalism." My arse...Dec 18 00:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. To paraphrase Dr. Richmond: "England has long been mad."Dec 18 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh What would you suggest instead? For that particular story, anything less than every detail would lead to cries of bias.Dec 18 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm look here, in the novel there is a digital gold currency. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptonomicon also look up bitcoinDec 18 00:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Picked my son up from university today. It's like I never left, except for the part where I'm older, grayer & fatter...Dec 18 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ender2070: @_the_mad_hatter @schestowitz guess who claims I'm #sexist #racist and #homophobic ?Dec 18 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera With the financial slant so far I can imagine it'll get there eventually, but so far just gold bars and sunken nazi gold &tcDec 18 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 But we are all @sexist @racist and #homophobic by definition - we are alive.Dec 18 00:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] VIA Fails With KMS/3D, But Has Yet Another X Driver: One year ago VIA came out with their Linux TODO list, which... http://bit.ly/i9pN6GDec 18 00:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jwildeboer I am not 100% happy with #EIFv2, but BSA and other MSFT proxies seem to be furious. So it must be good ;-) #bsa #swpatsDec 18 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scandinavia and the World http://satwcomic.com/leaking best comic I've come across so far. !wikileaks #cablegate #sweden #uncleSamDec 18 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @fabsh See Ben Goldacre - he's the exceptionDec 18 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Leaking - Scandinavia and the World .::. Size~: 28.51 KBDec 18 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter tell me he's not with the National PostDec 18 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aztlek/@aztlek] #Photography: self-portraid in black. #BlackFace operation http://flic.kr/p/92Gxfj !photo !photography !wikileaksDec 18 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Prof Geoff Stone: proposed SHIELD Act would plainly violate First Amendment if applied to non-gov employees #wikileaks #WLhearingDec 18 00:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US senator: "First Amendment? Haha. Melaughs."Dec 18 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Abbe Lowell: headline news should not create new criminal law that will lead to decades of unintended consequences. #wikileaksDec 18 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Defend the US constitution."[F]our years of political power authorizing him to deviate from the Weimar Constitution." http://is.gd/iVzubDec 18 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Watching Lexx - glad I recorded it, fantastic Canadian TV show.Dec 18 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Wainstein: if every news organization in our country is in fear of prosecution, what happens to freedom of the press? #wikileaksDec 18 00:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Ben Goldacre writes for the Guardian. He has a fantastic book out (which I bought) called Bad ScienceDec 18 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm "The success of democracy depends on all parties involved being well-informed." http://is.gd/iVzIR #wikileaksDec 18 00:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aztlek/@aztlek] #Fotografía: Autorretrato en negro. Operación #BlackFace. http://ur1.ca/2m2xo !wikileaksDec 18 00:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] I stopped watching television 4 years ago and now I would want to watch it on my smartphone with current mobile internet in !Belgium? #yeloDec 18 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Reporters Without Borders shares concerns of US prosecuting WikiLeaks’ staff. http://bit.ly/hyT2bh !wlDec 18 01:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reporters Sans Frontières - Open letter to President Obama and General Attorney Holder regarding possible criminal prosecution against Julian Assange  .::. Size~: 45.62 KBDec 18 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Downfall parody http://is.gd/iVAn5 the video is all reversed. When correct, Hitler defends surveillance on people (FB), opposes uprise (WL)Dec 18 01:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Wikileaks Watch: Julian Assange is to be freed on bail (Plus bonus Downfall parody)  .::. Size~: 61.7 KBDec 18 01:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] We met @Tucows' $10k matching challenge! Feelin the love on our birthday week. Thank you! http://bit.ly/eyURfLDec 18 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz perhaps we should drop the faux democracy crap and see if there is a real participatory political index.Dec 18 01:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Gabriel Schoenfeld: prosecution of media outlets should be a last resort. #wikileaks //shutting down of media symptom of tyranniesDec 18 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera I think democracy is more of a model, its implementations so far were mixtures/hybrids of modelsDec 18 01:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Record Labels Blame Google For Piracy, Hint At Censorship http://bit.ly/dIsQ1m which would just drive dev of distributed SEsDec 18 01:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BPI bans vocal chords, RIAA bans ears, MPAA bans eyeglasses, and authors guild bans limbs. How far will they go? http://is.gd/iVBWyDec 18 01:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Vladeck: will Espionage Act as written interfere with federal whistleblower protections? #wikileaks / when laws /harbour/ crimeDec 18 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm "!WikiLeaks has many members and we have never all been in the same place." < like the Royal Family?Dec 18 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz It seems that however weak the implementation, call it "democracy" and it cures all ills.Dec 18 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Julian Assange said this afternoon that !WikiLeaks grew in terms of the number of core people involved. Terrorising them counter-productive.Dec 18 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] KEEP US STRONG – donate to the defence fund. http://bit.ly/gXJXK7 !wlDec 18 01:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Blanton: The government always overreacts to leaks by classifying more information. More openness makes us more secure !wikileaksDec 18 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm "I can't wait to see my son and hold him close," Julian's mother, Christine, said outside the court. http://ur1.ca/2lqkaDec 18 01:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange granted bail: as it happened | News | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 312.9 KBDec 18 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Blanton Let's use a little restraint and leave the Espionage Act in mothballs #wikileaks //they want to put Julian in jail w/ NEW lawDec 18 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm rt @forumwikileaks UPDATE FROM COURT: ███ █████ ████ ████ ████ ███ █ ██████ █████ ███ █████ ████ #wikileaksDec 18 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @rms: Obama administration suing BP http://ur1.ca/2m1m3Dec 18 01:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: ♺ @laurelrusswurm ♺ @forumwikileaks UPDATE FROM COURT: ███ █████ ████ ████ ████ ███ █ ██████ █████ ███ ████ ████ #wikileaksDec 18 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "Forgetting Bradley Manning" http://is.gd/iVDrTDec 18 01:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @GoldenScepter @jhameia Do you agree with Anna Ardin that it is "inspiring" to destroy a man with lies if he cheats on you? #mooreandmeDec 18 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "Angry Assange back online" http://is.gd/iVEhrDec 18 01:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Angry #Assange back online http://is.gd/iVEPJ "jail had only made him more determined to continue his secret-spilling work."Dec 18 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Menu tonight: Stone Smoked Porter BBQ Baked Tofu, Sauteed Jalapeno Corn, Roasted Sweet Potato Puree with Coconut, Collard GreensDec 18 01:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Forgetting Bradley Manning http://is.gd/iVEX4 via @hazzyDec 18 01:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @eff Nader: we should focus less on #wikileaks and more on abysmal info security situation // scapegoat called Julian?Dec 18 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @eff Nader: rushed or "stampeded" legislation always comes back to haunt its authors #wikileaks // how about #warcrime ?Dec 18 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @eff Nader: overreaction to #Wikileaks threatens future of open internet // nice of Nader to be there & voice opposition to anti- !wl BillDec 18 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Gr8, when will the wikileaks comics be released ? Some reminded me of X-Men and Kazuo Koike's Lone Wolf.Dec 18 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lnxwalt140 Sadly, I think the obsession with #wikileaks is keeping us from tracking things like #acta and the tsa's overzealous #nudescanDec 18 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux kernel and the C library as a single project http://bit.ly/hX9QSg now free to access.Dec 18 01:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @schestowitz that'd be a brilliant conspiracy, have bad stuff come rapid succession so that it gets forgotten soonerDec 18 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ laurelrusswurm Seems some people have been winding up poor @x11r5 ... careful or you're going to get the little guy bannedDec 18 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm Seems some people have been winding up poor @x11r5 ... careful or you're going to get the little guy bannedDec 18 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk Exactly.Dec 18 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz And every day, he(Julian) looks more and more like a manga character. So...Dec 18 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: Italian undercover cops encourage riots http://ur1.ca/2m31vDec 18 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Angry #Assange back online http://is.gd/iVEPJ "jail had only made him more determined to continue his secret-spilling work.Dec 18 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "Join 30,000 Others: Protect the First Amendment -- Don't let them outlaw WikiLeaks!" http://is.gd/iVH7lDec 18 01:58
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Angry Assange back online .::. Size~: 132.74 KBDec 18 01:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Join 30,000 Others: Protect the First Amendment -- Don't let them outlaw WikiLeaks! | Demand Progress .::. Size~: 8.9 KBDec 18 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @bkuhn !replicant new free software drivers for GPS and camera in AOSP 2.3 release http://ur1.ca/2m37oDec 18 02:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz @ovigia Angry Assange...? A new game for iPhone/Android ? Where one should toss secrets to take down govt's ?Dec 18 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] They charged Assange with sex without condom with 2 women. Wonder if it was at the same time. The guy's my hero, everyday more and more.Dec 18 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Humble Bundle #2 Breaches $900k, On Way To $1M USD: The Humble Indie Bundle #2 just came out three days ago with... http://bit.ly/hVPuw6Dec 18 02:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Humble Bundle #2 Breaches $900k, On Way To $1M USD .::. Size~: 17.77 KBDec 18 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Neil Young: I loved this video when I was a kid http://ur1.ca/2m39tDec 18 02:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Details of rape, sexual assault allegations against Wikileaks' Assange leaked to Guardian http://ur1.ca/2m3bc !wlDec 18 02:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Details of rape, sexual assault allegations against Wikileaks' Assange leaked to Guardian - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 31.82 KBDec 18 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cuba banned Michael Moore's "Sicko" for fear of public backlash http://ur1.ca/2m3bp !wlDec 18 02:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Stars and Stripes ombudsman defends right to WikiLeaks access http://ur1.ca/2m3bw !wlDec 18 02:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Game On 2010 – a Preview of my HTML 5 Web App, Pencilbox http://mzl.la/fQzmSHDec 18 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Spirit of Indiana (Jones) – syncing HTML5 Video with Maps http://mzl.la/eqKIFSDec 18 02:36
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Spirit of Indiana (Jones) – syncing HTML5 Video with Maps ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog  .::. Size~: 54.88 KBDec 18 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] !WikiLeaks Supporters Rally in San Francisco: http://is.gd/iVMc7 Great! @SFWeekly blogs about yesterday's protest in FiDi. cc:@RaineyReitmanDec 18 02:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz And watching your post with "V" reminded me of Assange again...Dec 18 02:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks Supporters Rally in San Francisco - San Francisco News - The Snitch .::. Size~: 126.01 KBDec 18 02:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] The @SFBG on yesterday's rally: !SF "activists denounce !WikiLeaks crackdown" http://is.gd/iVN9N Also mentions #FreeBrad. /cc @RaineyReitmanDec 18 02:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: San Francisco activists denounce WikiLeaks crackdown | San Francisco Bay Guardian .::. Size~: 43.34 KBDec 18 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Attended visitation of a great man: The Hon. George W. Vari. We came to Canada with nothing. Canada gave us everything.Dec 18 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Videos from !WikiLeaks support rally yesterday are @Indybay: http://ur1.ca/2m3fd Speeches by @RaineyReitman, Jeff Paterson, Martin MacKarel.Dec 18 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] ♺ @lnxwalt140 Sadly, I think the obsession with #wikileaks is keeping us from tracking things like #acta and the tsa's overzealous #nudescanDec 18 02:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks flashmob: San Francisco stands up for online free speech : Indybay .::. Size~: 23.14 KBDec 18 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hitler também está com Assange http://youtu.be/is0TQ64rjRcDec 18 03:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hitler is supporting Assange too http://youtu.be/is0TQ64rjRcDec 18 03:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  YouTube - Hitler discovers that Julian Assange lost out to Mark Zuckerberg  .::. Size~: 134.44 KBDec 18 03:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: ♻ @shwood: Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster Site open to Tourism Next Year: http://bit.ly/dTcjZLDec 18 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Oh, FUCK YOU Bank of America: "BofA cutting off !WikiLeaks payments" http://is.gd/iVQPW You just made me hope the bank leak is about you. :(Dec 18 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty ♻ @JPBarlow: I think it's just fine if the UN wants to pretend it's governing Cyberspace. They're truly harmless j.mp/fMo8TrDec 18 03:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ukraine Plans to Open Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster Site to Tourism Next Year | Popular Science .::. Size~: 98.4 KBDec 18 03:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BofA cutting off WikiLeaks payments - CharlotteObserver.com .::. Size~: 74.86 KBDec 18 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @maymaym Oh, FUCK YOU Bank of America: "BofA cutting off !WikiLeaks payments" http://is.gd/iVQPW You just made me hope the bank leak ...Dec 18 03:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US congressional hearing on Wikileaks (3h video) | http://is.gd/iVXa3 !wlDec 18 03:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Lawmakers Discuss Constitutional Issues Raised by WikiLeaks | C-SPAN  .::. Size~: 48.05 KBDec 18 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] I never understood Captain Beefheart's music, but he inspired Tom Waits to go weird, which is legacy enough for me. http://ur1.ca/2m3qfDec 18 04:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Captain Beefheart Dead At Age 69 | Rolling Stone Music .::. Size~: 30.65 KBDec 18 04:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US govts' talk the talk on privacy http://bit.ly/erWm6t #wikileaks #failDec 18 04:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Government Talks The Talk On Privacy & Civil Liberties, But Isn't Walking The Walk | Techdirt .::. Size~: 37.97 KBDec 18 04:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: US congressional hearing on Wikileaks (3h video) | http://is.gd/iVXa3 http://tinyurl.com/25x9eavDec 18 04:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: KEEP US STRONG – donate to the defence fund. http://bit.ly/gXJXK7 http://tinyurl.com/2f9qs4jDec 18 04:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bank of America bans ALL transactions to WikiLeaks http://is.gd/iW0Jl receive better interest: http://alturl.com/t6oj4 !wlDec 18 04:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Lazy night, watched first two episodes of Lexx, now doing a Thunderbirds marathon.Dec 18 04:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jkoblovsky: Auditor General's Report On Safe Schools: http://bit.ly/fk6rku #onpoli #ontpoliDec 18 04:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jason Koblovsky - Independent Journalist: Auditor General’s Report on Safe Schools .::. Size~: 67.38 KBDec 18 04:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US torture to get the "collusion" confession from Manning; cite "national security" to extradite #Assange http://bbc.in/goSJ4u #preditcionsDec 18 04:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Wikileaks: Barriers to possible US Assange prosecution .::. Size~: 65.14 KBDec 18 04:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] maybe the CIA should try a front vacation company and send #Assange "prize draw tickets, all expenses paid to Florida" as a lure #humourDec 18 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] site design tip: if you want to confuse your visitors, use a different title on the menu / front (or section) page to the title of the pieceDec 18 04:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] It's annoying to see a title on the menu worth reading, clicking it and thinking you've been redirected to a different placeDec 18 04:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We ask that all people who love freedom close out their accounts at Bank of America. !wlDec 18 04:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm looking at you #Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/Dec 18 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Slighty old !Linux news, but anyway: http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2010/12/at-blocks-linux-configuration.htmlDec 18 04:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: "Police misconduct must result in real punishment and compensation" SUN: http://bit.ly/e5xdtC #cdnpoli #G20Dec 18 04:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: G20 Summit just one of 2010's pressing legal issues | Alan Shanoff | Columnists | Comment | Toronto Sun .::. Size~: 56.28 KBDec 18 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Does your business do business with Bank of America? Our advise is to place your funds somewhere safer. !wlDec 18 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Oh #Altavista we had some good times together! http://ur1.ca/2m3vrDec 18 04:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] http://linuxgamingnews.org/2010/12/14/heroes-of-newerth-2-0-is-now-live/ !gamers !gamesDec 18 05:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Heroes Of Newerth 2.0 Is Now Live ! « Linux Gaming News .::. Size~: 67.9 KBDec 18 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Does your business do business with Bank of America? Our advise is to place your funds somewher... http://tinyurl.com/29hpe22Dec 18 05:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: We ask that all people who love freedom close out their accounts at Bank of America. http://tinyurl.com/2udpkrzDec 18 05:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] http://linuxgamingnews.org/2010/12/14/heroes-of-newerth-2-0-is-now-live/ !games !gameing !gamersDec 18 05:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Heroes Of Newerth 2.0 Is Now Live ! « Linux Gaming News .::. Size~: 67.9 KBDec 18 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I wrote a letter. Why doesn't anyone write back? http://www.jezra.net/blog/Letter_to_Augen #shamelessselfpromotionDec 18 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Wut http://imgur.com/LIvnLDec 18 05:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jezra.net: Letter to Augen .::. Size~: 25.65 KBDec 18 05:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] http://linuxgamingnews.org/2010/12/14/heroes-of-newerth-2-0-is-now-live/ !games !gaming !gamersDec 18 05:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Heroes Of Newerth 2.0 Is Now Live ! « Linux Gaming News .::. Size~: 67.9 KBDec 18 05:13
Ender2070kickass gameDec 18 05:13
Ender2070I beta tested 1.0Dec 18 05:13
sebsebsebI haven't even played itDec 18 05:14
sebsebseb,but I thought I would do a dent about it anywayDec 18 05:14
Ender2070it's a remake of a warcraft 3 modDec 18 05:14
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Ender2070standaloneDec 18 05:14
Ender2070it was so good they based a game around itDec 18 05:14
Ender2070see: DOTADec 18 05:14
sebsebsebDOTA ?Dec 18 05:14
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-YDec 18 05:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @fabsh @0x6d686b @psquid No No No !!! Just using the stock Gingerbread keyboard. Flashed it via custom recovery : http://ur1.ca/2m406Dec 18 05:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To: Install the Gingerbread (Android 2.3) Keyboard on Your Android Device | TheUnlockr .::. Size~: 60.52 KBDec 18 05:16
Ender2070defense of the ancientsDec 18 05:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Asher_Wolf ♺ @WikiLeaks Bank of America bans ALL transactions to WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/2m40l Better⇒ http://wikileaks.ch/support.htmlDec 18 05:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @seeds hackers and geeks need to protect the net from them big hungry bastard companies.Dec 18 05:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bank of America says it won't process payments intended for WikiLeaks - KansasCity.com .::. Size~: 63.09 KBDec 18 05:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Interview w/Bradley Manning's lawyer details reading lists that includes Zinn, Sun Tzu & George Bush's memoir: http://is.gd/iW93T !wikileaksDec 18 05:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @wikileaks ...Bank of America? Our advice is to place your funds somewhere safer >> I'd trust @x11r5 to tell me what to do over a bankDec 18 05:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @maymaym "If Manning is convicted it'll be cuz his individual dedication to human ethics…surpasses that of the US govt." http://is.gd ...Dec 18 05:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] As a result of #HumbleBundle 2 nearly One Million US Dollers! http://ur1.ca/2m442 !games !gaming !gamers !linuxDec 18 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @DemocracyCanada Did anybody else find the #G20 videos PARTICULARLY disturbing? Full public inquiry required ASAP. #freebyron !CanadaDec 18 06:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @wikileaks: It's Bradley Manning's birthday. Have the courage to resist - PLEASE SUPPORT. http://ur1.ca/1jyv8 #freebradleyDec 18 06:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @qu1j0t3 .@lensassaman foreign citizenship never saved anyone from US Gulag. Ask several Canadians. @GaeMar01 #cdnpoliDec 18 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Dear Government of Sweden ... by Michael Moore http://ur1.ca/2m47j << some very good points @MMFlintDec 18 06:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wltsunami/@wltsunami] RT @wikileaks: Does your business do business with Bank of America? Our advise is to place your funds somewhere safer. !wikileaks !cablegateDec 18 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Must Read -The Guardian: The Anonymous !WikiLeaks protests are a mass demo against control http://ur1.ca/2ly0c #DDoS !cablegateDec 18 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rms Bank of America: organized crime? http://ur1.ca/2m49hDec 18 06:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  The Anonymous WikiLeaks protests are a mass demo against control | Richard Stallman | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 251.7 KBDec 18 06:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2010: September - December Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 596.85 KBDec 18 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @wl_central 2010-12-17 Australian Federal Police: Assange Has Committed No Crime !WikiLeaks #Assange !Cablegate wlcentral.org/node/650Dec 18 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Thought-provoking article: "Who is behind !WikiLeaks"? http://is.gd/iWmm1 @NYTimes, others, implicated "from the outset." #media #propagandaDec 18 06:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jimsciuttoABC ⇒ #Assange re: cables exposed: "...that state department was not able to do their job is a matter for them” !Cablegate !wlDec 18 06:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz you realize that was an intentional hoax, do you? ;-)Dec 18 06:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] "corporate #media's use & interpretation of !Wikileaks cables serves to uphold…myths" about US foreign policy, #terrorism http://is.gd/iWmm1Dec 18 06:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Asher_Wolf ♺ @lensassaman ...why we need !WL: "unedited cables show serious factual errors in the original story" http://ur1.ca/2m4kqDec 18 06:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fairfax got its facts wrong reporting from WikiLeaks cable | The Australian .::. Size~: 64.67 KBDec 18 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jimsciuttoABC #Assange to ABC: "never a single report of any of our documents causing physical harm to any single person." !WikileaksDec 18 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Love how http://is.gd/iWmm1 makes an argument for #media's complicit US propaganda. But conclusion !WikiLeaks is PsyOp? Far-fetched at best.Dec 18 06:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jimsciuttoABC #Assange calls US charge release endangers lives "usual nonsense..trotted out..every time media reveals abuses' !CablegateDec 18 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @AlexiMostrous An amazing New Yorker piece on "soul-destroying loneliness" of solitary confinement http://ur1.ca/2llik !wl #freebradleyDec 18 07:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is long-term solitary confinement torture? : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 136.44 KBDec 18 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] http://Rally4Wikileaks.com is apparently a central directory of planned !Wikileaks protests. #Seattle tweeps, a rally in #Olympia is listed!Dec 18 07:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @newsbrooke ♺ @davidmhouse: Traveling to see Brad Manning in the hole. Hope recent media reduced harsh & punitive treatment #freebradleyDec 18 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] @laurelrusswurm tbh,given the way corporations behaved towards !wikileaks i would have been *shocked* had he made the cover of TIME.Dec 18 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] NES. That isDec 18 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] NES. That is all.Dec 18 07:16
cubezzzhrmmm, the critics sure didn't like Tron LegacyDec 18 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Reuters: "There's no such thing as 'secure' any more,"~ Debora Plunkett, National Security Agency !q http://ur1.ca/2m4yw !wikileaksDec 18 07:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. code-cracking agency works as if compromised | Reuters  .::. Size~: 78.52 KBDec 18 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The average Windows user is contributing $6.34 while the average Linux user is in at $13.63." http://is.gd/iWuLpDec 18 07:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] @laurelrusswurm yep. we're taking our world back,one leak at a time. !wikileaksDec 18 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: Reuters: "There's no such thing as 'secure' any more,"~ Debora Plunkett, National Security Agency !q http://ur1.ca/2m4ywDec 18 07:50
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oiaohmcubezzz: Critics did not like Tron either in the day.Dec 18 07:52
cubezzzyes, I'll reserve judgementDec 18 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana of course, but funny nonethelessDec 18 07:53
cubezzzI liked the original well enoughDec 18 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @maymaym Interview w/Bradley Manning's lawyer details reading lists that includes Zinn, Sun Tzu & George Bush's memoir: http://is.gd/iW93TDec 18 07:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bradley Manning: WikiLeaks Alleged Source’s Life in Prison - The Daily Beast  .::. Size~: 472.06 KBDec 18 07:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] !WikiLeaks Cables: Pfizer Targeted Nigerian Attorney General to Undermine Suit over Fatal Drug Tests http://is.gd/iWwFdDec 18 07:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks Cables: Pfizer Targeted Nigerian Attorney General to Undermine Suit over Fatal Drug Tests  .::. Size~: 63.85 KBDec 18 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] the world has become a very very dark place. but what do u expect from a world ruled by old,greedy, evil men? may God help us. !wikileaksDec 18 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lnxwalt140 Does "web 2.1 beta 7" seem a little bloated and slow to you?Dec 18 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff #WLhearing in brief recess for a vote. So far: witnesses defend free speech, attack overclassification, caution restraint. #wikileaksDec 18 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter I disagree. @rms doesn't push socialism. He pushes freedom, which is far more dangerous.Dec 18 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RD @fsfe: FSFE's PR on #EIFv2: Welcome, with some reservations http://ur1.ca/2lr1s #EUDec 18 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff We agree with Rep. Goodlatte when he says expansion of government secrecy is "out of control" and "illegitimate" #wikileaksDec 18 08:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @webmink @karsten I think you could have spun the FRAND win more strongly. EIF defines FRAND as FOSS-compatible :-)Dec 18 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Blanton: Congress should continue its long history of pushing back on Executive's overclassification #Wikileaks #WLhearingDec 18 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @karsten @webmink Key question is how EC will reconcile Free Software and FRAND, even if by deprecating stds w/ FRAND. Need to watch this.Dec 18 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Rep. Scott: Any new law must conform with 1st amendment precedent including Pentagon Papers case. #wikileaksDec 18 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Abbe Lowell: drawing line between !Wikileaks and other journalists impractical, slippery slope.Dec 18 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @cancivlib: Number of police in Canada on the rise: http://bit.ly/eGZxBZ - do we really need more cops?Dec 18 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Why does StatusNet Mobile open a browser for showing group messages? It would be better to see them in the client.Dec 18 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Police is sometimes the private army protecting those in power from the people. Without payments, they would have taken other side.Dec 18 08:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Number of police in Canada on the rise .::. Size~: 70.22 KBDec 18 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ...and what will I have for breakfast?Dec 18 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Good work by the police is preventing from one person from harming another. When rich harm poor, uniform obscures rationale. Then it's army.Dec 18 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When domestic police forces start carrying automatic firewarms, it's a signal that people of the country -- not foreign enemy -- are threatDec 18 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Submitting documents to our journalists is protected by law in better democracies." altered notice on !wikiLeaks siteDec 18 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If riot police starts wearing same hat as 'normal' police, this means that army personnel could soon become cops, too. #MartialLawDec 18 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter re "@rms tries to protect your rights to have access to the source." > it's more than that, he's not for "open source"Dec 18 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bradley Manning in jail is an example of the local population being treated like enemy.Dec 18 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @bpglobalpr The bad news- we're being sued by the United States. The good news- they sue in dollars, not pounds. / #satireDec 18 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer I already hear the shouts on the floors of the DoJ: "Yes, we can!" But a case against 'Assange &WL not the Change we hoped forDec 18 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I uninstalled Pocket Legends from my phone. It's a great game, but I don't want to spend the entire holidays with playingDec 18 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @russellmcormond: RT @p2pnet: Canada spends tax dollars promoting Apple. Reality Distortion factor http://is.gd/iWAliDec 18 08:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @trashbird1240 Every time I go soft on an enemy of freedom they pull sh*t like this: http://ur1.ca/2lri8 // #amazoff #censorshipDec 18 08:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon's latest Kindle deletion: erotic, incest-themed fiction .::. Size~: 34.22 KBDec 18 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald US officials view "persuading" Manning to testify against WikiLeaks as "crucial" to prosecuting Assange: http://is.gd/iVl8vDec 18 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @adammacisaac: Since all #G20 officers seemed to know isearches outside zone breaches of Charter Rights I'd say #BillBlair has to resign.Dec 18 08:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Freed on bail – but US steps up efforts to charge Assange with conspiracy - Americas, World - The Independent .::. Size~: 465.66 KBDec 18 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] And Now Presenting: Amazing Satellite Images Of The Ghost Cities Of China http://is.gd/iWBBy #china #collapseDec 18 08:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Prof Stone: Supreme Court says almost all speech causes some harm. If we fixate on harm, we give up the 1st Amendment. !wikileaksDec 18 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Johnson: we can't allow outrage to cloud our judgment about the rights of freedom of press. #WLHearing #wikileaksDec 18 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amazon is not only kicking out !wikileaks #cablegate (which is truth) but it also misuses its power over eBooks to 'burn' books it dislikesDec 18 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Freedom means permitting air time to views one disagrees with. Censorship is always against freedom.Dec 18 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Johnson: DOJ should think about the chilling effect an unwarranted prosecution would have on free expression. #WLHearing #wikileaksDec 18 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz That's why I distrust e-book readers.Dec 18 08:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter UK Court torturing @assange, says he has to live in @EastAnglia! >> what's wrong with East Anglia, Wayne?Dec 18 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if you torture me I tell you I am the Queen of England, does not mean I am female or Royal, it just means I tell you what you want me to sayDec 18 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm RT @haris US Is Apparently Torturing Bradley Manning, Despite No Trial And No Conviction - http://ur1.ca/2lodaDec 18 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Man is the missing link between Neanderthal man and civilised man. There is nothing civilised in torture.Dec 18 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] with torture, people say whatever makes the pain stop, not matter how bizarre, invented or obscure it isDec 18 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm "If justice is not always an outcome, at least it is not dead yet."~Julian #Assange on release http://ur1.ca/2lsbbDec 18 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] maybe Dubya should be "interrogated" into confessing about the lies over Iraq, then jailed over his "confession" #Manning #wikileaksDec 18 08:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  YouTube - WikiLeaks' Julian Assange Speaks After Being Freed From Jail  .::. Size~: 127.41 KBDec 18 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Openwall GNU/*/Linux 3.0 is out, marks 10 years of the project http://is.gd/iWFcl #OpenwallDec 18 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] That poor window. It didn't deserve to be owned by such an asswad.Dec 18 09:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: announce - [openwall-announce] Openwall GNU/*/Linux 3.0 is out, marks 10 years of the project .::. Size~: 8.16 KBDec 18 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Yahoo! buries Del.icio.us why won't Flickr be buried too one day? Got copies of your photos? #FogComputing #failDec 18 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz ♺ @jwildeboer I already hear the shouts on the floors of the DoJ: "Yes, we can!" But a case against 'Assange &WL not the ...Dec 18 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cory Doctorow talks about DOS-attacks, ! Wikileaks and the power of protest http://is.gd/iWGdu via @themadhatterDec 18 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz And Now Presenting: Amazing Satellite Images Of The Ghost Cities Of China http://is.gd/iWBBy #china #collapseDec 18 09:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: REC-festivals | Cory Doctorow talks about DOS-attacks, Wikileaks and the power of protest  .::. Size~: 22.22 KBDec 18 09:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @wikileaks: We ask that all people who love freedom close out their accounts at Bank of America.Dec 18 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Big win against copyright trolls! Judge orders porn companies to stop abusing the law when suing accused ... https://eff.org/r.1v4Dec 18 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Judge Blocks Copyright Trolls in Porn-Downloading Lawsuits | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 14.42 KBDec 18 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jkoblovsky: Yahoo poised to shut down AltaVista: http://bit.ly/gZu7vS - heck, thought they already had! > Hasta la AltaVistaDec 18 09:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yahoo to shut down old product lines - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 89.31 KBDec 18 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer RT @wikileaks: We ask that all people who love freedom close out their accounts at Bank of America.Dec 18 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How I’d Hack Your Weak Passwords http://is.gd/iWIJo I know people who used those passwordsDec 18 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody re "I'm amazed - and impressed - by the serious hatred building up for Yahoo" // Look who runs the company now. It's not Yahoo!Dec 18 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer RT @wikileaks: We ask that all people who love freedom close out their accounts at Bank of America.Dec 18 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I use MySQL/PHPMyAdmin to generate mine.Dec 18 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter @glynmoody Yahoo has gone downhill. They should have kept Jerry Yang in control. The new CEO is going to kill the company.Dec 18 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @jwildeboer RT @wikileaks: We ask that all people who love freedom close out their accounts at Bank of America.Dec 18 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @evan: Oh, hey, this del.icio.us export format looks pretty easy to import. I think we can get something going pretty quick on #StatusNet.Dec 18 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ovigia ♺ @ruiseabra: ♺ @evan: @evan Oh, there we go. http://is.gd/iWJF3 ; "Delicious replacements"Dec 18 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Delicious replacements - Autonomous .::. Size~: 17.16 KBDec 18 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bank of America now refusing to process payments believed to be for Wikileaks Bank of America won't fund Wikileaks - http://bit.ly/dFh4OlDec 18 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bank of America now refusing to process payments believed to be for Wikileaks .::. Size~: 96.86 KBDec 18 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Amazing Satellite Images Of The Ghost Cities Of China - http://read.bi/h8FedS incredible pix of deserted cities #chinaDec 18 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Well, Stevie B is F...king killing Yahoo. Not the company he intended, but...Dec 18 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Police Brutality in Frankfurt http://is.gd/iWKak "No charges, no reasons, no explanation. Just random act of violence."Dec 18 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Bullies #Spain into Proposed Website Blocking Law - http://bit.ly/f3M7as "serious concerns for Spanish citizens’ rights of due process"Dec 18 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police Brutality in Frankfurt « Beyond the Iron Sky  .::. Size~: 63.62 KBDec 18 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not-So-Gentle Persuasion: US Bullies Spain into Proposed Website Blocking Law | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 29.21 KBDec 18 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Oh internets, you vex meDec 18 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WordPress Accused Of #Copyright Infringement For Its Famed 'Hello Dolly' Sample Plugin - http://bit.ly/gEgxGN more madnessDec 18 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WordPress Accused Of Copyright Infringement For Its Famed 'Hello Dolly' Sample Plugin | Techdirt .::. Size~: 44.12 KBDec 18 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Should I publish Open Access? - http://bit.ly/fgjOjJ excellent post: "We are in a prisoner’s dilemma" #openaccessDec 18 09:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - Should I publish Open Access? « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 44.65 KBDec 18 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Yahoo Just Killed… Consumer Confidence In Them - http://tcrn.ch/e84UEk er, any *remaining* confidence in them #delicious #flickrDec 18 09:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Yahoo Just Killed… Consumer Confidence In Them  .::. Size~: 62.33 KBDec 18 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A rather neutral recap of the allegations in the #Assange case by the Guardian. #insightful http://j.mp/gDtHJmDec 18 09:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  10 days in Sweden: the full allegations against Julian Assange | Media | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 102.19 KBDec 18 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Precisión En !TechRightsDec 18 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Precisión En !TechRights http://is.gd/iWMrnDec 18 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] had to call my own mobile to find it, turns out that quilts are good sound mufflers, for some reason it was in my bed #confusedDec 18 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Gatekeepers is slowly taking shapeDec 18 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin To be honest, I am not sure what the Gnome Shell people are trying to achieve...Dec 18 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gotunandan Meh! I want ALL of Gingerbread!Dec 18 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Started reading Coriolanus. #KindleDec 18 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The state - employee of $BIGCORP? One could start to think that way. http://j.mp/i1Aw9QDec 18 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Homeland Security Presents 'Evidence' For Domain Seizures; Proves It Knows Little About The Internet - Or The Law | Techdirt .::. Size~: 223.56 KBDec 18 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] seems he's already showing the right traits "sneaky, deceptive, unethical, underhanded" perfect for a top govt post http://bit.ly/ea8YSJDec 18 10:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Student who conned his way into Harvard says sorry | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 210.38 KBDec 18 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[chriswaterguy/@chriswaterguy] ♻ @laurelrusswurm "Submitting documents to our journalists is protected by law in better democracies." altered notice on !wikiLeaks siteDec 18 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Wow. The most inane right-wing rant I ever read about !Wikileaks, #Manning: http://is.gd/iWQzH Exemplary of pathetic totalitarian adherents.Dec 18 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] RapNews6 !WikiLeaks' #Cablegate: The Truth is Out There http://youtu.be/hl4NlA97GeQ "Australia is part of the American empire." Oh man…owch!Dec 18 10:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  YouTube - Rap News 6 - Wikileaks' Cablegate: the truth is out there  .::. Size~: 142.89 KBDec 18 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wltsunami/@wltsunami] Can't wait to hear about this Bank of America thing. When's it coming out??? !wikileaks !cablegateDec 18 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Never said @rms pushed Socialism. I said he pushed Communityism. Big difference.Dec 18 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz I agree with #rms on that. Open sources is a distraction.Dec 18 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Same thing that's wrong with millions of other places. It isn't where Assange chooses to be, it's the courts choice.Dec 18 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: #WordPress Accused Of #Copyright Infringement For Its Famed 'Hello Dolly' Sample Plugin - http://bit.ly/gEgxGN more madnessDec 18 11:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WordPress Accused Of Copyright Infringement For Its Famed 'Hello Dolly' Sample Plugin | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.34 KBDec 18 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] BofA won't process payments if it "believes" it's for !WikiLeaks. So I can refuse ATM fees if I believe they're for corrupt bankers, yes? :)Dec 18 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: US Bullies #Spain into Proposed Website Blocking Law - http://bit.ly/f3M7asDec 18 11:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not-So-Gentle Persuasion: US Bullies Spain into Proposed Website Blocking Law | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 29.21 KBDec 18 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aztlek/@aztlek] Recuerden operación #BlackFace hoy http://ur1.ca/2m600 !wikileaksDec 18 11:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aztlek/@aztlek] Remember #Blackface operation TODAY http://ur1.ca/2m600 !WikileaksDec 18 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Funny. I thought that television was a medium from the early 90ies, but now that you can watch it on your ipay it's called innovation? #yeloDec 18 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mark Thompson: Britain needs a channel like Fox News - http://bit.ly/hVMiQT also needed: more rats, cholera and nuclear reactor accidentsDec 18 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rap News 6 - Wikileaks' Cablegate: the truth is out there - http://bit.ly/hmhve8 brilliant - do not miss #wikileaks (via @Asher_Wolf)Dec 18 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody Rap News 6 - Wikileaks' Cablegate: the truth is out there - http://bit.ly/hmhve8 brilliant - do not miss #wikileaks (via @ ...Dec 18 12:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Assange is back in tracks http://youtu.be/k63n3N5hJQ4Dec 18 12:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  YouTube - Julian Assange: WikiLeaks and the War on Journalism [Rap News Vs. NWO]  .::. Size~: 133.62 KBDec 18 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wonderful news from the #OpenVizsla project - http://bit.ly/g84MFZ "open-source USB sniffer and all-around hack gadget project"Dec 18 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 6 Flickr alternatives, in case its the next to die - http://bit.ly/hOnQym see what happens, #Yahoo? #flickr #deliciousDec 18 12:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wonderful news from the OpenVizsla project - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 23.55 KBDec 18 12:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: Rap News 6 - Wikileaks' Cablegate: the truth is out there - http://bit.ly/hmhve8 brilliant - do not miss #wikileaksDec 18 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wikileaks: Bank of America bans ALL transactions to #WikiLeaks http://is.gd/iW0Jl receive better interest: ur1.ca/2i2es #cablegateDec 18 13:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bank of America says it won't process payments intended for WikiLeaks - KansasCity.com .::. Size~: 63.21 KBDec 18 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtlehead!Dec 18 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zuargo/@zuargo] !Wikileaks y !Assange perseguidos por los #EEUU y los bancos. Nuevos informes podrían hacerlos quebrar http://bit.ly/g1VFfNDec 18 13:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] A real time kernel, what distro does have it ???Dec 18 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Kernel real time, qual distro será que tem ???Dec 18 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: 6 Flickr alternatives, in case its the next to die - http://bit.ly/hOnQym see what happens, #Yahoo? #flickr #deliciousDec 18 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @jwildeboer: A rather neutral recap of the allegations in the #Assange case by the Guardian. #insightful http://j.mp/gDtHJmDec 18 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 6 Flickr alternatives, in case its the next to die .::. Size~: 101.03 KBDec 18 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  10 days in Sweden: the full allegations against Julian Assange | Media | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 102.24 KBDec 18 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @rms Anti-austerity protests continue in Greece http://ur1.ca/2m6cuDec 18 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] FriendFeed CRAP.... i can't login... WTF???Dec 18 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter Oh, I see. I just remembered you had some family in the UK or something.Dec 18 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Bank of America now refusing to process payments believed to be for #Wikileaks" #crooks #BofA #flattrDec 18 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Bank of America now refusing to process payments believed to be for #Wikileaks" #crooks #BofA #flattr http://ur1.ca/2m6n3Dec 18 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "6 Solid Alternatives to #Delicious" http://thenextweb.com/apps/2010/12/16/the-5-best-alternatives-to-delicious/Dec 18 13:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 6 Solid Alternatives to Delicious .::. Size~: 110.52 KBDec 18 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "5 Smartphones To Look Out For In 2011" http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/12/17/5-smartphones-to-look-out-for-in-2011/Dec 18 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @mvalente: Socialist #USA at its best http://goo.gl/81FNQ ; #policestateDec 18 13:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Warner Brothers Won’t Fight ‘Yogi Bear’ Video Parody http://is.gd/iXlam 2 hours ago I saw a bush sculpted (cut) like Mickey Mouse...Dec 18 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Remember - US is not the pope, quite some #cablegate cables will carry false information. Do your research before jumping to conclusionsDec 18 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Warner Brothers Won't Fight 'Yogi Bear' Video Parody - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 72.21 KBDec 18 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Our culture is built upon characters whom we show to our kids and then we ban recreation of these same characters. It's a form of lockin.Dec 18 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] watching #pioneerone e02. *almost* as good as pilot; some sound issues, though. @pioneeronetv, great job, but please put more care in soundDec 18 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[chriswaterguy/@chriswaterguy] A confident society can ask questions of itself; when it is fragile, it fears them. ur1.ca/2m6p4 !q !wikileaksDec 18 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Disney: "You shall not make for yourself an idol"Dec 18 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi ♻ @chicagonpg: ♺ @seeds: The French Government Can Now Censor the Internet - Slashdot http://ur1.ca/2luft / another defeat to freedomDec 18 13:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The French Government Can Now Censor the Internet - Slashdot .::. Size~: 172.31 KBDec 18 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva !wikileaks threatens to reveal Secret Santa assignments before XmasDec 18 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva #theJulian will be extradited to the poll as punishmentDec 18 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva #theJulian will be extradited to the poll as punishmentDec 18 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Help Julian: “FSI - Julian Assange Defence Fund” Sort code 20-77-67, account number 93842452. Terms: http://ur1.ca/2lr9tDec 18 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @maymaym I went to a !Wikileaks support rally today. Here're some of my (unfortunately grainy) pictures http://is.gd/iXnx2 #FreeBradDec 18 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @maymaym The @SaveBradley folks hold a "Bradley Manning is a hero!" poster at today's !WikiLeaks rally: http://is.gd/iXnJvDec 18 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @freemjd #Idea for a #campaign: "We don't sell you". Web sites that pledge not to use ad networks or other user-mining "services".Dec 18 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ♺ @TomUsher It s/b illegal to prevent anyone exercising while in prison. Exercising is a human right/health issue #freebradleyDec 18 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I have some OLPC-related leaks that I've never been allowed 2 publish because the source is not protected.Defend the rights of truth-tellersDec 18 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Crime-doers hold people's career (and thus livelihood, family) hostage in order to ensure their bad behaviour is never publicly knownDec 18 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In a healthy society there needn't be a dilemma between torture (Bradley Manning) and truth or family vs justice.Truth-tellers discriminatedDec 18 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Please support #Cleanternet: http://www.cleanternet.org/ - for a better and safer Internet! #wikileaksDec 18 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Cross: India tortured detainees in Kashmir http://is.gd/iXpnn Bradley helped expose/prevent unjust torture, now he's tortured for itDec 18 14:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @teirdes Antarctica ban on #Wikileaks. http://goo.gl/t5yLg It feels so good when useful measures are undertaken... via @evgenymorozovDec 18 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @telecomix ICANN says to #UN "It is now time to design the New Internet Nation State." http://bit.ly/fo64qg #internets #Utnr /decentraliseDec 18 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] "the entire nation of Cuba was shown [Sicko] on national television on April 25, 2008!" - http://pnt.me/q2RNsl !wikileaks #msmDec 18 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] At a Loss for Words: Modern Lessons From a Lost Language - http://bit.ly/dIHNmW charming tale for a Saturday (via @LouWoodley @BoraZ)Dec 18 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 172 public institutions removed non-free advertisement http://is.gd/iXrQR PDF another bogus ISO 'standard'?Dec 18 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[demuxer/@demuxer] ♻ @aztlek Remember #Blackface operation TODAY http://ur1.ca/2m600 !WikileaksDec 18 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @thistleweb interesting choice of words by the #BBC "pro Wikileaks propaganda" http://bbc.in/glcYPF #establishment / propaganda *is* BBCDec 18 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm @thistleweb i thought "propaganda" is always used for government; the non governmental version is called advertisingDec 18 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @fabsh well then patience, my friend ;)Dec 18 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Ok so tomorrows chelsea-united game called off ! Now I am pissed. GrrrrDec 18 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] We just bought our very first Christmas tree. :D http://ur1.ca/2m6xuDec 18 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] We just bought our very first Christmas tree. :D http://ur1.ca/2m6ypDec 18 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Looks like I am completely snowed in.....Dec 18 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @openbytes in an unusual state of affairs, I have no snow at all, apart from the odd patch of old stuff from a few days agoDec 18 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @openbytes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBEGaCzOE9g << some Spanish Buzz Lightyear scenes to entertain yaDec 18 15:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] finished !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting. mostly troubled by connection issues. http://is.gd/iXz33Dec 18 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] " Welbeck " trending on twitter just now. Haha !mufcDec 18 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] French minister praises !WikiLeaks boss #Assange http://is.gd/iXzftDec 18 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lawmakers and Legal Experts Call For Restraint in Wikileaks Hearing http://is.gd/iXzky how the tune has changed over timeDec 18 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer How much money did MSFT et al save by using Android phones as HW basis for their WinMob7 devices?Dec 18 15:16
schestowitzLOL http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/17/eu-summit-twitter-wall-trial-goes-awry-as-berlusconi-bashers-flood-euco-stream/Dec 18 15:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] All your hard drives are [sic] belong to the MAFIAA http://is.gd/iXB9z the "you're already a criminal" taxDec 18 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The word "compensation" is the MAFIAA's euphemism of choice for "unjust fine". They abuse language. "Compensation" assumes harm was done.Dec 18 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @muppling why not tax children? Their memories are blank, and when they get old they'll be full of #copyrighted info.Dec 18 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] USTR's Request for Comments on ACTA - I really think we should give them what they ask: http://wmk.me/h13ujBDec 18 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody wow, look at this: #copyright vs. #patents, 1720-2008 - http://bit.ly/dIT9ve interesting, no? #trends #ngramDec 18 15:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward to going home! Been on the road for tooooo long! #fbDec 18 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sitting at the window, watching the snow outside. There are some cat footprints... I hope they will find a warm place for the night.Dec 18 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance" --Vint Cerf http://is.gd/iXFmIDec 18 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Excuse me? How come ? Is M$ pirating Android's hardware ?Dec 18 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Britain needs a channel like Fox News - http://bit.ly/hVMiQT also needed: more rats, cholera and nuclear reactor accidentsDec 18 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Looking forward to being in Parry Sound & Bracebridge for events today!Dec 18 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] FOSS User Magazine interviewed me some time ago before my #FAmSCo election. http://fossuser.lk/en/12/foss-user-with-braad-gerard/Dec 18 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Torontonamo: #G20 case studies: 400 official complaints, little satisfaction - Toronto Star http://bit.ly/f9CW0jDec 18 15:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @rcweir: RT @gnubyexample: Journal of Statistical Software - Statistical correctness Gnumeric vs OpenOffice vs Excel http://is.gd/iXvL5Dec 18 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody #trends #ngram won't handle synonyms too well, so it's not very useful. Consider how meanings change over time, too.Dec 18 15:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer "States seek to imprison the Anonymous protesters rather than official torturers and murderers." Stallman on #wikileaks ...Dec 18 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz eheh ... wait until I release the 's' one :-PDec 18 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Hell man, I got family everywhere. Argentina, Uruguay, Venezuala, Italy, England, France, Australia, U.S.. We're like weeds.Dec 18 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz There's no proof Bradly Manning was the leaker, or that he knew Julian Assange. Can't wait till this gets to court.Dec 18 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[chmod755/@chmod755] just made some #donations - feels good :) !wl !fsfe http://ur1.ca/2m7ccDec 18 16:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "If they want their money back, give it to them." LOL. #DS9Dec 18 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: ♺ @jwildeboer How much money did MSFT et al save by using Android phones as HW basis for their WinMob7 devices?Dec 18 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @chmod755 just made some #donations - feels good :) !wl !fsfe http://ur1.ca/2m7ccDec 18 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ♫ Strange Communion: I don’t think I’ll be able to get out to hear her performing live tomorrow evening in Winch... http://wmk.me/euIEIjDec 18 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The origins of many Superman villains done brilliantly http://ur1.ca/2m7dvDec 18 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: "Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance" --Vint Cerf http://is.gd/iXFmIDec 18 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: All your hard drives are [sic] belong to the MAFIAA http://is.gd/iXB9z the "you're already a criminal" taxDec 18 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Lawmakers and Legal Experts Call For Restraint in Wikileaks Hearing http://is.gd/iXzky how the tune has changed over timeDec 18 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BitTorrent Domain Exodus Continues As Torrentz Dumps .COM - http://bit.ly/ejW8V0 next up, alternative DNS servers... #bittorrentDec 18 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @PreemptDissent: Art project at YorkU involving remix of #G20 media seeking members. Ping community.inq@gmail.com by Dec 22. #G20reportDec 18 16:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jargon @laurelrusswurm yep. we're taking our world back,one leak at a time. !wikileaksDec 18 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] “A vida são deveres que nós trouxemos para fazer em casa." Mário QuintanaDec 18 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] NEW Rap News 6 - !Wikileaks' !Cablegate video - excellent parody rap (at least as good as SNL) http://ur1.ca/2m7kdDec 18 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] lDec 18 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @doctorow: I sold ~16.5k books thru Amazon link to BB readers in 2010; 6.8% were Kindle books; AMZN claims Kindle sales challenge print?Dec 18 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @doctorow: For clarity: the ~16,500 books sold last year were mostly not my books; they were books I review on Boing BoingDec 18 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ReporterVirtual: Confirmare Wikileaks: Marile bănci erau insolvente http://bit.ly/gLPkyYDec 18 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @chriswaterguy: A confident society can ask questions of itself; when it is fragile, it fears them. http://ur1.ca/2m6p4 #q #wikileaksDec 18 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] once again the moral authority of the Catholic Church is astounding http://bbc.in/f8KfUGDec 18 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] IBM joins the OpenJDK community, will help unify open source Java efforts http://is.gd/iXVbm #ibm #javaDec 18 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] People. Can’t Live With Them. Can’t Shoot Them. ARGH! - http://bit.ly/eQBTz7Dec 18 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] OS-Tans? This is a new one on me, but hey as long as it's from genuine fans, why not. Whatever floats yer boat http://bbc.in/fTpe6MDec 18 17:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @GaeMar01 It is Bradley #Manning 's Birthday - give him British citizenship. !wikileaks !cablegate <great idea #freebradleyDec 18 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @GaeMar01 @qu1j0t3 : British Nationality through mother & he lived in the UK under 21 = strong case. UK allows dual too. < #freebradleyDec 18 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Holiday Surprise: What's On My Linux Gaming Desktop?: It's now Christmas time at Phoronix with the appearance of... http://bit.ly/eLSkC3Dec 18 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I see the plan, encourage the extremists faux news channels, which glues in the role of the "impartial" #BBC #balance http://bit.ly/fk3EutDec 18 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: BitTorrent Domain Exodus Continues As Torrentz Dumps .COM - http://bit.ly/ejW8V0 next up, alternative DNS servers..#bittorrentDec 18 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @rysiek: Please support #Cleanternet: http://www.cleanternet.org/ - for a better and safer Internet! #wikileaksDec 18 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 @lensassaman @GaeMar01 Although Canada is part of the commonwealth and supposedly sovereign gov't but behaves like USA sockpuppetDec 18 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 @GaeMar01 I never thought I'd see the day but I miss PM Cretien ... with all his faults, only one with balls 2 say NO #freebradleyDec 18 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Script kiddies DDoS SpamHaus for correctly observing wikileaks-dot-info is actually run by a crime syndicate: http://wmk.me/dIeZKRDec 18 17:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @osamak agreed. I prefer to expand the FL as Free (Libre)Dec 18 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @iurie: Trisquel 4.5 STS Slaine beta release - http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-45-development-release-crowd-funding-and-holiday-presentsDec 18 17:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @webmink: Script kiddies DDoS SpamHaus for correctly observing wikileaks-dot-info is run by a crime syndicate: http://wmk.me/dIeZKRDec 18 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @@lstench Made me cry. http://youtu.be/_T_S4-Qyr50 >> me tooDec 18 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @webmink Script kiddies DDoS SpamHaus for correctly observing wikileaks-dot-info is actually run by a crime syndicate: http://wmk.me/ ...Dec 18 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @laurelrusswurm #Manning will have confessed that #Assange conspired, then tried & convicted in secret by the military #nationalsecurityDec 18 18:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: I just provided 1 vaccination via #ChromeForACause. Browse with Chromium to support a good cause: t.co/zuL2znh ur1.ca/2m84jDec 18 18:21
twitterSlashdot has published some disturbing spin lately.  Several detail free articles spin a recent Gawker hack as a "Linux" problem, and there are accusations of an FBI backdoor in OpenBSDDec 18 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell FOXNews to fire Bill Sammon and correct their reporting on global warming http://bit.ly/fqRLh9Dec 18 18:23
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twitterThe last OpenBSD story shamefully puts words into Theo DeRatt's mouth.Dec 18 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @evgenymorozov I wonder what would happen to banking industry if !WikiLeaks supporters start putting WL as the reason for every transferDec 18 18:30
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twitter=>"jfruhlinger writes "Theo de Raadt has made the shocking claim that OpenBSD includes a backdoor that the FBI paid coders to build. "Dec 18 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @thistleweb Ah. Just when you think you're paranoid enough....Dec 18 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Bozo move of the day: Brightkite ends checkins to go into group texting. http://lnk.gd/da5Dec 18 18:31
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twitterTheo did not make that claim, he published an email from someone else who made the claim.  Most observers on the thread thought it was BS.Dec 18 18:32
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twitter=>"The mail came in privately from a person I have not talked to forDec 18 18:34
twitternearly 10 years.  I refuse to become part of such a conspiracy, andDec 18 18:34
twitterwill not be talking to Gregory Perry about this.  Therefore I amDec 18 18:34
twittermaking it public"Dec 18 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Michael Moore: ¡Viva !Wikileaks! SICKO Was Not Banned in Cuba http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/viva-wikileaksDec 18 18:36
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twitterHP server array comes with back door.  http://www.securityweek.com/backdoor-vulnerability-discovered-hp-msa2000-storage-systemsDec 18 18:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Backdoor Vulnerability Discovered on HP MSA2000 Storage Systems | Information Security News, IT Security News & Expert Insights: SecurityWeek.Com .::. Size~: 36.18 KBDec 18 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] How To Compile The Kernel In Ubuntu, The Easy Way [Video] http://bit.ly/hlsCkmDec 18 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Amazon: from big river to Big Brother, over and over http://ur1.ca/2lri8Dec 18 18:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Compile The Kernel In Ubuntu, The Easy Way [Video] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 65.2 KBDec 18 18:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon's latest Kindle deletion: erotic, incest-themed fiction .::. Size~: 34.07 KBDec 18 18:38
twitterThe only solution to backdoors is to use free software but a lot of mud is being thrown at "Linux" instead.Dec 18 18:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @rateldajer US Senate just repealed #DADT to allow gays to serve openly - America, welcome to the 20th Century ... #democracyDec 18 18:48
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schestowitz[18:22] <twitter> Slashdot has published some disturbing spin lately.  Several detail free articles spin a recent Gawker hack as a "Linux" problem, and there are accusations of an FBI backdoor in OpenBSDDec 18 18:56
schestowitzI no longer read it since OctoberDec 18 18:56
schestowitztwitter: and yes, I posted something about that HP loopholeDec 18 18:57
schestowitz_Goblin: heyDec 18 18:57
schestowitzavailable today?Dec 18 18:57
_Goblinhi....one minute....brb....Dec 18 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] CADuntu (2D CAD Drawing Tool) Becomes LibreCAD, Gets Ubuntu PPA http://bit.ly/fQpeE0Dec 18 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana there's "crappy cow"Dec 18 19:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CADuntu (2D CAD Drawing Tool) Becomes LibreCAD, Gets Ubuntu PPA ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 65.66 KBDec 18 19:00
_Goblinsorry, having a conversation with FOSSpatents on Twitter.Dec 18 19:01
_Goblinback....Dec 18 19:01
_Goblinfor a few mins.....Dec 18 19:01
_Goblindinner shortly.Dec 18 19:01
schestowitzTroll fed :-( https://identi.ca/notice/60663522Dec 18 19:01
TechrightsBot-tr@Laurel Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-10 17:18:27 UTC - Identi.ca: @stonemirror @schestowitz @haris I'm aware US Military Justice is separate but it still falls under US government control.  #freebradleyDec 18 19:01
schestowitz_Goblin: he's lobbying for Microsoft patent agendaDec 18 19:01
_Goblinwe are not talking about that....Dec 18 19:01
_Goblinwe are talking in general about personal responsibility....Dec 18 19:02
_Goblinand my view of no Mono...Dec 18 19:02
schestowitzah, okDec 18 19:02
schestowitzhe's a .NET developerDec 18 19:02
schestowitzSo he defends MonoDec 18 19:02
_Goblin" Actually I never denied that I like the .NET framework. Even in 2004/05 during NoSwPat campaign I admitted that fact in speeches."Dec 18 19:03
_GoblinI don't mind as long as people disclose.....Dec 18 19:03
schestowitzhe doesn'tDec 18 19:04
schestowitzhe also pretended to be pro-FOSSDec 18 19:04
schestowitzWhile pushing for anti-FOSS policiesDec 18 19:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/16160412357623808Dec 18 19:05
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @schestowitz yes, you need to be careful about meaning shift, but I find it very useful for highlighting broad trendsDec 18 19:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/16162626828505088Dec 18 19:05
TechrightsBot-tr@aveeksen: @schestowitz patience pays. :)Dec 18 19:05
schestowitzI can't leak some stuffDec 18 19:05
schestowitzFear that my source will lose his/her job :-(Dec 18 19:05
gnufreexscheshowitz: Who is lobbying for MSFT?Dec 18 19:06
schestowitzACT, maybe Onion tooDec 18 19:07
schestowitzHe does lobbyDec 18 19:07
schestowitzFor themDec 18 19:07
schestowitzBut..Dec 18 19:07
schestowitzMaybe not for payDec 18 19:07
schestowitzMaybe they'll pay him later with a job or somethingDec 18 19:07
gnufreexOnion got publicity for CPTN newsDec 18 19:08
schestowitzLike they did with others like him...Dec 18 19:08
gnufreexI think VM_Guile may be in fact pupet accountDec 18 19:08
schestowitzFirst they shill, later they get the award... the TurboHercules/T3 way..Dec 18 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !q "Greed is the purest, most noble of emotions" ~ Quark, #DS9Dec 18 19:08
gnufreexI see MSFT is increasingly taking over all media. Shills everywhere.Dec 18 19:09
gnufreexEL reg have made pretty big turn... they are not anti MSFT now.Dec 18 19:10
gnufreexAnd they have been, for a long time.Dec 18 19:10
gnufreexCan't say they are pro-MSFT, but.. i don't knowDec 18 19:10
_Goblinschestowitz: yeah, we will throw out a show after my dinner if you want....Dec 18 19:15
schestowitzCool, _GoblinDec 18 19:16
schestowitzI'll check if gordon's around tooDec 18 19:16
schestowitzLast show was quick to releaseDec 18 19:16
schestowitzI need to link it to the show notesDec 18 19:16
schestowitzAlthough we needn't make any show notes reallyDec 18 19:17
_Goblinschestowitz: Yep....I should be back around 8pm.Dec 18 19:17
schestowitzOK, goodDec 18 19:17
schestowitzWe can dive right intoitDec 18 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb can you record tonight? !tbDec 18 19:18
gnufreexFunny that now onion denies involvment with THDec 18 19:19
schestowitzhttp://euobserver.com/22/31530Dec 18 19:19
schestowitzShe's greatDec 18 19:19
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gnufreexAnd he was shilling for them.Dec 18 19:19
schestowitzgnufreex: I mostly leave him nowDec 18 19:19
schestowitzHe's a waste of imeDec 18 19:19
schestowitz*timeDec 18 19:19
schestowitzAnd he lost DanaDec 18 19:19
schestowitzNow he might be briefing Jo Microsoft Mary insreadDec 18 19:19
gnufreexYeah, but EL reg and ARS are now linking him.Dec 18 19:19
gnufreexFor CPTN news.Dec 18 19:20
schestowitzNo big deal...Dec 18 19:20
schestowitzNot worth spending time onDec 18 19:20
schestowitzGroklaw and others covered it tooDec 18 19:20
schestowitzHe works hard to get linksDec 18 19:20
schestowitzMany personalised mailsDec 18 19:20
schestowitzSo he's inefficient IMHODec 18 19:21
gnufreexYeah, you are right, not worth time.Dec 18 19:21
schestowitzI keep an eye on it sometimesDec 18 19:23
schestowitzbut just for zeitgeistDec 18 19:23
schestowitzI have a wiki page about him and he finally admitted he's not pro-FOSSDec 18 19:23
schestowitzSo people know what a stinkn'  onion they deal withDec 18 19:23
gnufreexYeah, he now says he is "intelectual property... something"Dec 18 19:24
gnufreexI should have copied exactly what his info box on his blog said before.Dec 18 19:24
gnufreexFor comparison.Dec 18 19:25
gnufreexAlso, backuping his blog might be usefull, he might delete some stuff to remove all slur he trown or Red Hat and FSF... And FSFE...Dec 18 19:25
gnufreex*on instead orDec 18 19:26
schestowitzgnufreex: you can get it from cacheDec 18 19:26
schestowitzDo a comparisonDec 18 19:26
schestowitzgnufreex: his blog has no commentsDec 18 19:27
schestowitzHe just spits in someone else's poolDec 18 19:27
schestowitzLike I said...Forget itDec 18 19:27
schestowitzI have more than twice the # of twitter followers he has and another 530 in Identica... he's just some forgotten writwerDec 18 19:28
schestowitzAnd he works by sending mails behind scenes to people in publications/blogsDec 18 19:28
schestowitzHe sends quotes for people to embed in postsDec 18 19:28
schestowitzHe did this to me and at first i cooperatedDec 18 19:28
schestowitzThen he turned very nastyDec 18 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching #DS9.Dec 18 19:30
schestowitz_Goblin: we should do a special episode on mobbying and lobbyistsDec 18 19:30
schestowitzSince you spoke today to Microsoft FlorianDec 18 19:30
schestowitzWe need to do a show explaining how those people work, I've learned them for yearsDec 18 19:30
schestowitzAnd now they killed EIFv2Dec 18 19:30
schestowitzACTDec 18 19:30
schestowitzAnd FlorianDec 18 19:30
schestowitzWe need to warn people about themDec 18 19:30
gnufreexYeah, that would be interesting.Dec 18 19:30
schestowitzIt's related to trolls, _GoblinDec 18 19:31
schestowitzThistleweb is not aroundDec 18 19:31
schestowitzSo might be another understaffed showDec 18 19:31
schestowitzgnufreex: wanna be on the show?Dec 18 19:31
gnufreexcan'tDec 18 19:31
gnufreexNo microphoneDec 18 19:31
_Goblinweb cam....? you can hold up signs !! ;)Dec 18 19:32
gnufreexlolDec 18 19:32
schestowitzUse Hawking' speech proggyDec 18 19:33
schestowitzType in your thoughtsDec 18 19:33
_Goblinschestowitz: roy, let me find out when dinners arriving....I may be available now...Dec 18 19:33
schestowitz*g'sDec 18 19:33
gnufreexWhat's the point then, I can just type :-)Dec 18 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @qtbynokia Qt Labs Blog - Experimental packages for Symbian development on Linux http://ow.ly/1auWxkDec 18 19:33
schestowitz_Goblin: *now*?Dec 18 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Experimental packages for Symbian development on Linux .::. Size~: 54.63 KBDec 18 19:33
_GoblinI firmly standby my signs idea....... maybe a big tick if you agree...a big red cross if you don't.Dec 18 19:33
gnufreexWow, this is interesting. Can GCC compile symbian?Dec 18 19:34
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/16203478783234048Dec 18 19:35
TechrightsBot-tr@_Goblin: @FOSSpatents don't care if people use or not. I won't, and that labels me a "troll" as I don't love "the gift to the world" #boycottboyDec 18 19:35
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/16202719685509120Dec 18 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr@_Goblin: @FOSSpatents I am accused of being a #boycottboy by some, but whilst I disagree with Roy (on many topics) he is a very nice chap.Dec 18 19:36
schestowitzHe sank into the whole Mono bullying clubDec 18 19:36
_Goblinto be fair the Mono convo was very superficial.....it was merely a starting point.Dec 18 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "You know how much money and eye costs?" Quark is so ace. :)Dec 18 19:36
_GoblinI always go by how people act not what they believe.....in respect of politeness I can't fault FOSSpatents and I haven't read enough of his blog to form opinions on what he says...... I always maintain I am not qualified to have an informed opinion on patent issues.Dec 18 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: ♺ @qtbynokia Qt Labs Blog - Experimental packages for Symbian development on Linux http://ow.ly/1auWxkDec 18 19:38
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MinceRhayDec 18 19:38
sebsebsebMinceR: hayDec 18 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh: In about a month I'll be starting my own #ds9 marathon... all those quotes are bringing me tears of longing and joy.Dec 18 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @JesseBrown: RT @TVOyoutube: VIDEO: TVO's Public Digital Archive (Coming in February) - TVO Public Digital Archive (Coming in February)Dec 18 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: RT @aglawoffice: Quick note #G20 court proceedings - officer testimony coming soon: http://bit.ly/hW0tus. #Toronto #cdnpoliDec 18 19:40
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schestowitz_Goblin: and the mobbyist pretends he's knowAllDec 18 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @kirschner Solothurner parliament #Switzerland criticised the move away from !freesoftware http://ur1.ca/2lzs6 !fsfeDec 18 19:43
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txdv‰‰embrace open source or you will be eradicatedDec 18 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Valve's Alien Swarm Game For Linux? http://is.gd/iYi0n "...SDK is signalling that there may be support for this game coming to Linux."Dec 18 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @webmink who do you think should qualify for Anonymity as a privilege and how could that possibly work... 2 prove worthiness can't be anonDec 18 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Valve's Alien Swarm Game For Linux? .::. Size~: 18.11 KBDec 18 19:45
txdvi want steam for linuxDec 18 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gabe #openleaks misguided, can't trust news orgs to be responsible w/ important info. Leaks either reach everyone or get manipulatedDec 18 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I'm afraid only if Google flex its muscles, and 4 Chrome/Android only. PityDec 18 19:46
MinceRi'd rather have the games for gnu/linux without steamDec 18 19:47
gnufreexWhat's steam?Dec 18 19:47
Diablo-D3http://www.cnbc.com/id/40716872/Dec 18 19:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pornography & Technology: Microsoft Kinect Used For New Cybersex Game - CNBC .::. Size~: 133.28 KBDec 18 19:47
Diablo-D3cnbc reporting that kinect is pervertedDec 18 19:47
Diablo-D3_cnbc_Dec 18 19:47
Diablo-D3sister station of msnbcDec 18 19:48
MinceRgnufreex: DRM platformDec 18 19:48
*Diablo-D3 is just confusedDec 18 19:48
Diablo-D3and hurrrr, no, the function of steam isnt drmDec 18 19:48
Diablo-D3it doesnt even push oneDec 18 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Geek Time with Peter Brown http://is.gd/iYinq !fsf and Google gettogetherDec 18 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: When put all in one file, SPARROW HILL ROAD is almost 400 pages long.Dec 18 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek Time with Peter Brown - Google Open Source Blog .::. Size~: 34.78 KBDec 18 19:48
MinceRwell, it's also a scamDec 18 19:48
Diablo-D3"a scam"Dec 18 19:48
Diablo-D3yes, buying video games is a scam.Dec 18 19:48
MinceRit's a "pay and maybe we'll let you use some games for a while if we feel like"Dec 18 19:48
MinceRit's not "buying", it's more like rentingDec 18 19:48
Diablo-D3MinceR: noDec 18 19:48
Diablo-D3dont go blaming valve hereDec 18 19:48
MinceRDiablo-D3 hasn't read the agreementDec 18 19:49
Diablo-D3valve already said if steam ever dies, valve will remove the online drm for all the valve titlesDec 18 19:49
MinceRsureDec 18 19:49
MinceRanyone can say anythingDec 18 19:49
Diablo-D3they CANT do it on non-valve titles because they dont use valve's drmDec 18 19:49
MinceRthere's nothing binding about itDec 18 19:49
Diablo-D3and fuck non-valve titles because they're all shit about itDec 18 19:49
Diablo-D3the only good PC titles anymore is valve'sDec 18 19:50
Diablo-D3and steam is valve'sDec 18 19:50
Diablo-D3ergoDec 18 19:50
Diablo-D3stfuDec 18 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @mafraederscheid I don’t believe Santa Claus is a male heterosexual. All day women w/bags stroll through the shops & men stand outside…Dec 18 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @drdemento: Mark Zuckerberg's surname means "sugar mountain" in German. Neil Young had a song about that, didn't he?Dec 18 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: EXCESS COPYRIGHT: Recalling The Great Canadian Penny Perturbation of 2007 http://bit.ly/eBjD20Dec 18 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 @webmink @zooko@identi.ca Imagine holding an unpopular political or religious opinion. Without anonymous expression, sile ...Dec 18 19:50
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MinceRa lot of DRM systems went out of operation already, leaving people who "bought" stuff unable to access those thingsDec 18 19:50
MinceRDiablo-D3: you don't know what you're talking about so you stfuDec 18 19:50
schestowitz_Goblin: 10 minutes to go..Dec 18 19:50
txdvembrace open source or you will be eradicatedDec 18 19:50
Diablo-D3MinceR: yes, itunes _sure_ is going to fuck you over, isnt itDec 18 19:51
schestowitzhypeToons...Dec 18 19:51
txdvfrom all the companies valve is the one which actually doesnt suckDec 18 19:51
Diablo-D3and I dont know what Im talking about? name one PC game thats worth buying that isnt valve'sDec 18 19:51
Diablo-D3go aheadDec 18 19:51
Diablo-D3do itDec 18 19:51
MinceRDiablo-D3: i'm not talking about what game is worth buyingDec 18 19:51
Diablo-D3thats right MinceR, you cant do itDec 18 19:51
MinceRDiablo-D3: i'm talking about the steam subscriber's agreement which you signed without readingDec 18 19:51
Diablo-D3<MinceR> I won't admit I'm wrongDec 18 19:52
MinceRDiablo-D3: you're an idiot, but that isn't newDec 18 19:52
txdvim going to read it nowDec 18 19:52
Diablo-D3I'm an idiot because I don't go on RMS-esque rampages against closed source software?Dec 18 19:52
Diablo-D3txdv: the steam agreement hes talking about is how publishers on Steam can actually fuck youDec 18 19:52
Diablo-D3the problem is, most of Steam's business is Valve titlesDec 18 19:53
MinceRDiablo-D3: you don't even understand what the discussion is aboutDec 18 19:53
txdvmost of steam buissness is valve titles?Dec 18 19:54
MinceRyou also haven't read or understood the agreement yet you're telling me what it's about, that's interesting tooDec 18 19:54
Diablo-D3txdv: yesDec 18 19:54
txdvi dont think so, they have so that way more nonvavle games are soldDec 18 19:54
txdvim going to read it MinceRDec 18 19:54
MinceRthose two things aren't mutually exclusiveDec 18 19:54
MinceRthey could sell a lot of a few valve titles and few of a lot of non-valve titlesDec 18 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 158 dents!Dec 18 19:55
txdvand if you are not telling the truth, i will eat your bonesDec 18 19:55
Diablo-D3yes, MinceR is bitching that the steam agreement legally protects valve, and was written by valvesDec 18 19:55
Diablo-D3erDec 18 19:55
Diablo-D3yes, MinceR is bitching that the steam agreement legally protects valve, and was written by valve's lawyersDec 18 19:55
MinceRDiablo-D3: so it doesn't protect the customerDec 18 19:55
MinceRDiablo-D3: so the customer is paying money for nothing at allDec 18 19:55
_Goblinschestowitz: Just having dinner now.......you just can't get the staff.....Dec 18 19:55
Diablo-D3why would it?Dec 18 19:55
MinceRDiablo-D3: what is that if not a scam?Dec 18 19:55
Diablo-D3its called the state of US law is fucked up, MinceRDec 18 19:55
Diablo-D3the agreement also does not abridge the rights of the consumer, howeverDec 18 19:55
Diablo-D3no matter what it saysDec 18 19:56
Diablo-D3agreements, also, as a whole, do not actually mean anything if you don't trust the companyDec 18 19:56
MinceRthe law is another thing, that may or may not detemine that the agreement as such is null and void, or partially inapplicableDec 18 19:56
MinceRdoesn't change the fact that valve is trying to fuck over its customersDec 18 19:56
Diablo-D3I trust Valve... I don't trust, say, Microsoft.Dec 18 19:56
Diablo-D3I don't care what the EULA from Microsoft says, I don't trust them.Dec 18 19:56
MinceRand that you're going on a fanboyish rave about valve because you don't have a clueDec 18 19:56
schestowitz_Goblin: ok, let's see if GOrdon shows up in the mean timeDec 18 19:56
Diablo-D3I don't care if they send me fucking GPL'ed source codeDec 18 19:56
txdvdamn it, forgot to remove the old linuxDec 18 19:56
Diablo-D3Microsoft will still find a way to fuck me overDec 18 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sisko: "You think Quark had anything to do with it?" Odo: "I always investigate Quark." #DS9Dec 18 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald Lawyer writes abt conditions of Manning's detention, confirming facts I reported-and worse: http://ur1.ca/2m8mm #freeBradleyDec 18 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Temporal Directive? Fuck the Temporal Directive! :D #DS9Dec 18 19:56
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txdvubuntu i meanDec 18 19:56
Diablo-D3MinceR: yes, Valve is going to steal my $10 I paid for the Orange BoxDec 18 19:57
Diablo-D3boo hooDec 18 19:57
txdvyou just admited that you entire point of the discussion was an aboslute void, Diablo-D3Dec 18 19:57
MinceRlolDec 18 19:57
Diablo-D3txdv: MinceR had no point, reallyDec 18 19:58
MinceRDiablo-D3: are you saying that's the only thing you'll ever "buy" on steam?Dec 18 19:58
Diablo-D3"boo hoo lawyers suck"Dec 18 19:58
txdvcan't sell my account to anyoneDec 18 19:58
txdvthat sucksDec 18 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rickmercer: PMO communications and New conservative radio ads could be a drinking game. Every lie take a swig. #cdnpoliDec 18 19:58
Diablo-D3txdv: you can gift titles to others, howeverDec 18 19:58
MinceRit must be a great drm platform if its loudest fanboy won't "buy" more than one product on it, everDec 18 19:58
txdvmy own titles?Dec 18 19:58
Diablo-D3txdv: yes.Dec 18 19:58
txdvLike i give them away and dont own them anymore/Dec 18 19:58
Diablo-D3unless a third party prohibits it, which Valve can't controlDec 18 19:58
Diablo-D3txdv: yesDec 18 19:58
txdvhmmDec 18 19:59
txdvbut according to the agreement, i cant sell themDec 18 19:59
Diablo-D3txdv: not directly.Dec 18 19:59
Diablo-D3you don't have access to the license key to do soDec 18 19:59
MinceRtxdv: the more interesting part is about the one where they revoke your account and with it they take your subscriptions awayDec 18 19:59
Diablo-D3txdv: you can transfer licenses to other people, however.Dec 18 20:00
txdvi cant sell the account but maybe i can receive money from gifts, i have to read further onDec 18 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sisko: "Why didn't you tell me immediately?" Odo: "Sometimes I have to remind you just how good I am." #DS9Dec 18 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Commander, there is no easy way to question a Klingon." ~ Odo #DS9Dec 18 20:00
Diablo-D3what MinceR is bringing up is _stock license agreement fodder_Dec 18 20:00
Diablo-D3lets say you're doing shit on WoW Blizzard doesnt likeDec 18 20:00
Diablo-D3there goes your WoW accountDec 18 20:00
MinceRstrange, because boxed games used to work differently from thatDec 18 20:00
Diablo-D3MinceR: boxed games are basically deadDec 18 20:00
MinceRand even now most games can work offline without a ritualDec 18 20:00
Diablo-D3almost all of them belong to some sort of online license systemDec 18 20:01
MinceRDiablo-D3: that merely means that most distributors are trying to fuck you overDec 18 20:01
gnufreexso DRMDec 18 20:01
Diablo-D3it cuts down on piracyDec 18 20:01
MinceRi didn't say they weren'tDec 18 20:01
MinceRi said valve is doing itDec 18 20:01
Diablo-D3MinceR: but most people are trying to fuck over companiesDec 18 20:01
Diablo-D3I cant blame the companies hereDec 18 20:01
Diablo-D3the video game industry is rather unique hereDec 18 20:01
MinceRgo hand your soul over to them, thenDec 18 20:01
txdvi cant start games without steamDec 18 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Klingons have an intelligence agency? Muwhahahahahahahahahahaha!Dec 18 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Stupid computer user story. Woman who told me her mouse was dead, and wouldn't believe that a wireless mouse had batteries...Dec 18 20:01
Diablo-D3MinceR: soul? no.Dec 18 20:01
MinceRoh, and call everyone an idiot if they aren't so naive as you areDec 18 20:02
gnufreexI can blame companies for everything Diablo-D3 :-)Dec 18 20:02
txdvi think that you are both idiotsDec 18 20:02
Diablo-D3If Valve revokes my keys, then thats the end of them.Dec 18 20:02
Diablo-D3They no longer have the right to sell anyone gamesDec 18 20:02
Diablo-D3and most likely, they would go under because of thatDec 18 20:02
txdvif you cant have a normal discussion without arguingDec 18 20:02
Diablo-D3txdv: mincer likes to trollDec 18 20:03
Diablo-D3I'm not in the RMS camp where all closed source is bad.Dec 18 20:03
MinceRtxdv: Diablo-D3 likes to troll and then say others are trollingDec 18 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @pmoharper: #g20 police training course - pg 35: "feed of 500 screens". 500 camera feeds. http://bit.ly/i2AdII // like in the UK....Dec 18 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♺ @rickmercer: PMO communications and New conservative radio ads could be a drinking game. Every lie take a swig. #cdnpoliDec 18 20:03
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MinceRDiablo-D3: now you get to point where i said all closed source is bad.Dec 18 20:03
Diablo-D3There is a limited number of vendors I will do business withDec 18 20:03
txdvxDDec 18 20:03
Diablo-D3Valve is one of them.Dec 18 20:03
MinceR210126 < Diablo-D3> If Valve revokes my keys, then thats the end of them.Dec 18 20:03
MinceR210135 < Diablo-D3> They no longer have the right to sell anyone gamesDec 18 20:03
MinceRlolDec 18 20:03
txdvi like to troll about trollsDec 18 20:03
Diablo-D3Valve has proven trustworthy that they _don't_ fuck over people.Dec 18 20:03
Diablo-D3If they do, I will be happy to remove them from my list.Dec 18 20:04
MinceRDiablo-D3: protip: you don't get to control whom everyone trustsDec 18 20:04
txdvIBM has done exactly the sameDec 18 20:04
Diablo-D3The same happens with open source as well, so don't think we here don't have this problem.Dec 18 20:04
Diablo-D3I don't trust UbuntuDec 18 20:04
txdvuntil they sued an opensource project which invaded their core marketDec 18 20:04
txdv;DDec 18 20:04
Diablo-D3ergo, I don't use their distro.Dec 18 20:04
Diablo-D3txdv: IBM has... issues.Dec 18 20:04
MinceRreally? which open source program can be remotely killed by its authors or distributors?Dec 18 20:04
Diablo-D3MinceR: yes, swpats.Dec 18 20:04
Diablo-D3Ubuntu is pushing a pro-Mono agenda.Dec 18 20:05
txdvthere is no trustworthy company for the leadership doesn't consist of one opinionDec 18 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @pmoharper #g20 police training, pg49: baiting police includes "Having officers defend their actions to media" http://bit.ly/i2AdIIDec 18 20:05
gnufreextxdv: IBM didn't sue them. That's Microsoft propaganda.Dec 18 20:05
Diablo-D3Its a legal liability.Dec 18 20:05
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MinceRDiablo-D3: that's an entirely different issue.Dec 18 20:05
Diablo-D3MinceR: not at allDec 18 20:05
Diablo-D3I don't trust UbuntuDec 18 20:05
Diablo-D3ergo, I don't use their productsDec 18 20:05
txdvgnufreex: i read it on techrights, so schestowitz is promoting microsoft propaganda?Dec 18 20:05
Diablo-D3I don't care what the license agreement saysDec 18 20:05
Diablo-D3if I don't trust someone, then I don't use their stuff.Dec 18 20:05
Diablo-D3Period.Dec 18 20:05
MinceRyes, i can see you don't care about itDec 18 20:05
gnufreextxdv: And if they sue, they will sue TurboHercules (a propriatary company) not hercules (an open source project)Dec 18 20:05
Diablo-D3I don't care how they decide to do businessDec 18 20:06
Diablo-D3with Valve, I buy stuff online with their very light and almost pointless DRMDec 18 20:06
MinceRgnufreex: how did this affect the OS project?Dec 18 20:06
Diablo-D3with Ubuntu, I'd be donating (and sure as hell don't, fuck them)Dec 18 20:06
gnufreexNot slightly.Dec 18 20:06
gnufreexTH is just takingDec 18 20:06
Diablo-D3btw, IBM has _only_ ever bitched about FOSS projects stamping on swpat issuesDec 18 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @copiesofcopies @evan I'm a lawyer. I'm not here to make things more exciting. //more complicated? ;-)Dec 18 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Great post on the dangers of Facebook and a closed WEB http://bit.ly/hERmlNDec 18 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♺ @pmoharper #g20 police training, pg49: baiting police includes "Having officers defend their actions to media" http:// ...Dec 18 20:06
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Diablo-D3they havent suedDec 18 20:06
MinceRsometimes FUD can be effective enough, without a lawsuitDec 18 20:07
txdvAdditionally, Valve hereby grants, and you accept, a limited, terminable, non-exclusive license (the “Installer License ”) to reproduce and distribute an unlimited number of exact copies of the Steam client installation software ("Steam Installer") via online download; provided that the following conditions are met:Dec 18 20:07
txdvvalve can prohibit you from the usage of steamDec 18 20:07
gnufreexTurboHerucles is funded by Microsoft.Dec 18 20:07
txdvincluding all the games within an account?Dec 18 20:07
Diablo-D3txdv: yes, but its the _when_ that matters, not the _if_Dec 18 20:07
gnufreexThat is publicly knownDec 18 20:07
MinceRtxdv: i think the games and the account are discussed separatelyDec 18 20:07
Diablo-D3txdv: the only time theyve ever nuked entire accounts is when something illegal was going onDec 18 20:07
Diablo-D3txdv: Valve has a right to defend themselves.Dec 18 20:08
gnufreexAnd they just take from Hercules project and make propriatary version.Dec 18 20:08
MinceR"subscription" is used to refer to the games individually, iircDec 18 20:08
gnufreexThey don't hire devs.Dec 18 20:08
schestowitz[20:07] <gnufreex> TurboHerucles is funded by Microsoft.Dec 18 20:08
schestowitzPartly ownedDec 18 20:08
schestowitzLike T3Dec 18 20:08
gnufreexYeah.Dec 18 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !playogg [as ogg theora video] Peter Brown interviewed by Jeremy Allison http://is.gd/iYliRDec 18 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ótimo post sobre os perigos do Facebook e a WEB fechada http://bit.ly/hERmlNDec 18 20:08
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Diablo-D3txdv: if someone is doing illegal things using their account, or really going apeshit against other users or valve employees, they'll nuke accountsDec 18 20:08
gnufreexSo I don't care if IBM blast them to pieces.Dec 18 20:08
MinceRDiablo-D3: yes, the "nuke customer who's thought to be doing something illegal" trick is popular nowadaysDec 18 20:08
schestowitz_Goblin: ping me when you're backDec 18 20:08
gnufreexTH sued IBM to EU regulators.Dec 18 20:08
MinceRpaypal, mastercard and visa did it recently :>Dec 18 20:08
Diablo-D3MinceR: using stolen credit cards to buy games, or using chargebacks against valve will often end up with your account revokedDec 18 20:09
MinceRapparently the private sector would like to take over the job of enforcing lawDec 18 20:09
MinceRi don't know whyDec 18 20:09
Diablo-D3MinceR: and doing so, against ANY company, can end up you being in court.Dec 18 20:10
txdvwith power comes great evilDec 18 20:10
Diablo-D3So trying to blame Valve here is a dumb thing to doDec 18 20:10
Diablo-D3compare this to Microsoft, or even BlizzardDec 18 20:10
MinceRyes, blaming a company for formulating the agreement you're about to enter into with them is a dumb thing to doDec 18 20:11
MinceRblame the easter bunny for it insteadDec 18 20:11
Diablo-D3Blizzard nuked Battlenet accounts belonging to people who used software to help them play _single player games_Dec 18 20:11
MinceRlogicalDec 18 20:11
MinceRyes, blizzard are assholesDec 18 20:11
Diablo-D3Microsoft have removed Xbox 360s from their shit because of mod chips, or even suspected mod chipsDec 18 20:11
Diablo-D3Valve has not done things of this level.Dec 18 20:11
MinceRyour point?Dec 18 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Great turnout for #Muskoka Heritage Fdn annct last hour. Great to connect with some fantastic & dedicated Eco-volunteersDec 18 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @pmoharper: $1.2 billion, 500 camera screens, 20K security personnel, outnumbered protesters 2:1 & police still couldn't stop 99 people.Dec 18 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] O'Brien is really O'Brien from 5 hours in the future. LOL. :D #DS9Dec 18 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @ruiseabra Cool. :DDec 18 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @aseigo shoddy optimism without merit of fact vs. the unwillingness to risk positivity: both are pointless, result in bad decisions.Dec 18 20:11
MinceRvalve is not evil because there are other companies doing evil things as well?Dec 18 20:11
MinceRyou fail at logic again and againDec 18 20:12
Diablo-D3Valve is not evil because they don't do this shit.Dec 18 20:12
txdvMinceR: i guess he wants to say "guns dont kill people, people do"Dec 18 20:12
Diablo-D3Now, when they DO start doing this shit, then you can start saying Valve is evilDec 18 20:12
Diablo-D3and I'll be saying it right along with youDec 18 20:12
MinceRtxdv: that analogy doesn't even make sense.Dec 18 20:12
MinceRDiablo-D3: why reserve the right if they don't intend to do it?Dec 18 20:12
txdvif you dont obey the agreement, they can sue youDec 18 20:12
Diablo-D3but having the _ability_ to do it doesn't mean they _do_ do it (or abuse their power to do so)Dec 18 20:12
txdvbut valve doesnt do it as extensive as other companiesDec 18 20:13
txdv(not sue you but remove your account)Dec 18 20:13
Diablo-D3MinceR: because thats what lawyers do, reserve all the rights they canDec 18 20:13
MinceRDiablo-D3: and who tells the lawyers what to do?Dec 18 20:13
Diablo-D3past legal cases, MinceRDec 18 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I heard it said that Sweden's high rape rate has a lot to do with immigration yet nobody is allowed to point this out (taboo)Dec 18 20:13
Diablo-D3and their years of experience as a lawyer.Dec 18 20:13
txdvthey sure have a bad ass agreement, but they dont make usage of it everytimeDec 18 20:13
Diablo-D3Valve tries to resolve stuff with the minimal amount of painDec 18 20:14
MinceRto whom?Dec 18 20:14
Diablo-D3Microsoft, otoh, thinks everything looks like a planet, and all they have is nukes.Dec 18 20:14
Diablo-D3MinceR: to themselves, to the customer, to PR in generalDec 18 20:14
Diablo-D3Valve isn't stupid.Dec 18 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz From adventures of someone I follow on #twitter, I'm also aware that #Sweden's society has a fairly racist undercurrent.Dec 18 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter Katrin Axelsson: "There is a long tradition of the use of rape and sexual assault for political agendas that have nothing.."Dec 18 20:15
Diablo-D3MinceR: you somehow think just because its in the agreement, they use this for every single caseDec 18 20:16
Diablo-D3look at what Sun didDec 18 20:16
MinceRi somehow think it's not in the agreement just for funDec 18 20:16
Diablo-D3they had the "perfect" agreement, GPL'ed all their shitDec 18 20:16
MinceRor because it wouldn't be long without itDec 18 20:16
Diablo-D3Sunacle turns around and sues over swpatsDec 18 20:16
MinceRbut because it happens to have a purposeDec 18 20:16
Diablo-D3RMS was spooging in his pants over Sun GPL'ing shitDec 18 20:16
Diablo-D3look how good that did usDec 18 20:16
MinceRGPL'ed all their shit? like ZFS?Dec 18 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz That could only be a difference in cultural norms RE consent. Not "immigrants more likely to commit" at all.Dec 18 20:16
MinceRor like the java TCK?Dec 18 20:17
Diablo-D3Its how a company acts is how you trust themDec 18 20:17
Diablo-D3Valve doesn't act like a bunch of dicks, I do business when themDec 18 20:17
Diablo-D3Sunacle, Microsoft, Ubuntu, and whoever else DOES act like a bunch of dicks, they can fuck off.Dec 18 20:17
Diablo-D3I'm not sure why the hell you're having a fit about ValveDec 18 20:17
MinceRi'd say requiring an internet connection to install and use a single-player game one paid for is kind of acting like a dickDec 18 20:17
MinceRi'm not having a fit about valveDec 18 20:18
MinceRyou're having a rave about itDec 18 20:18
Diablo-D3No, you're trolling. I'm glad you agree with me.Dec 18 20:18
MinceRi'm trying to show you that it's not all sunshine and happinessDec 18 20:18
Diablo-D3This is a FUD free channel, take it elsewhere.Dec 18 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter Katrin Axelsson is a member of Women Against Rape in Sweden.Dec 18 20:18
MinceRthis is an idiocy-free channel, take it elsewhereDec 18 20:18
txdvhmmDec 18 20:18
txdvits not all sunshine, but its not all shit eitherDec 18 20:19
MinceRit's an ongoing agreement where the only reason you're not fucked in a given moment is that they happened to be gracious enough to not fuck you yetDec 18 20:19
MinceRi think that's a shitty state to be in, you think it's great.Dec 18 20:19
MinceR(you also like to ignore that it's in fact quite possible to buy games without getting into this sort of situation)Dec 18 20:20
Diablo-D3Sure, you CAN buy gamesDec 18 20:20
Diablo-D3but who says they're the games YOU want to play?Dec 18 20:20
Diablo-D3not all games are created equalDec 18 20:21
MinceRor at least it used to be possible until the publishers decided that it was too fair for the gamersDec 18 20:21
Diablo-D3the gaming industry, as a whole, produces hundreds of shit titles a yearDec 18 20:21
Diablo-D3AAA or notDec 18 20:21
Diablo-D3Valve happens to have a very good record here.Dec 18 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @pietercolpaert http://xkcd.com/835/ - I have a feeling !xkcd is totally back! I would totally queue for one of Randall's talksDec 18 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @jmcesteves: RT @netfreedom: Due to popular request, have just setup an Internet Freedom Mailing list. Join here http://bit.ly/dLlK5z ...Dec 18 20:21
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MinceRwhich is irrelevant to the discussionDec 18 20:22
MinceRonce again, you're pretending i said things i didn't sayDec 18 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I never realised how much I missed the #DS9 theme from my childhood.... Da-tatata--Da-ta-tata!Dec 18 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @agentsmith Great post on the dangers of Facebook and a closed WEB http://bit.ly/hERmlNDec 18 20:23
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txdvevery company in the game industry sucks by your definitions MinceRDec 18 20:23
MinceRmost likely they doDec 18 20:23
MinceRwell, publishers anywayDec 18 20:23
MinceRthe developer-only companies have a lot less control over these thingsDec 18 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @agentsmith Quite depressing though. Some days I think there are just too many windmills.Dec 18 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @graziano: http://is.gd/iYnvF Well we did tell you, didn't we? :)Dec 18 20:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb will politicians cynical use of "rape" against #Assange come back to haunt them when women come to vote? #wikileaksDec 18 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh: It is, for me, the best star trek series, and I never saw but some episodes due to crappy tv schedules.Dec 18 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody how about these? freeware, shareware, open source, free software trends - http://bit.ly/e2HqR6 (via @_the_mad_hatter) #ngramDec 18 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TSA misses enormous, loaded .40 calibre handgun in carry-on bag http://is.gd/iYo1q #tsa #airporn #securitytheatreDec 18 20:28
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txdvMinceR: but still everyone who buys games ends up with shitty agreementsDec 18 20:29
MinceRand then publishers wonder why there's so much privacyDec 18 20:29
MinceReven though gamers complain about DRM regularly on public forumsDec 18 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @wikileaks: why not just dumping the >25 year old cables as is? #cablegateDec 18 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Sitting here discussing the Black Company. If you haven't read 'The Silver Spike' by Glenn Cook, I recommend it.Dec 18 20:31
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txdvfucking gamersDec 18 20:33
txdvif they would stop complainingDec 18 20:33
txdvthe problem would be solvedDec 18 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz "Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance" --Vint Cerf http://is.gd/iXFmIDec 18 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @cesaraovivo RT @edkohler: The easiest way to shut down Wikileaks would be to have Yahoo! acquire it.Dec 18 20:33
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MinceRyes, if people would stop caring about their freedom, all the problems of the world would be solvedDec 18 20:34
MinceRwait, what?Dec 18 20:34
txdvwe got to kill stallmanDec 18 20:34
txdvand all the open source problems will endDec 18 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald @drjjoyner Michael Moore didn't offer "assertions." He offered verifiable evidence and facts which are easily reviewable !wlDec 18 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody gosh, it's Bradley Manning's birthday today - http://bit.ly/dSZxXV what could we possibly get him? // same date as mine (17/12)Dec 18 20:35
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MinceRor you could kill yourself and all your problems would endDec 18 20:35
MinceRforever!Dec 18 20:35
txdvthe ultimate invesment in the future of all problem solvingDec 18 20:36
txdvsure you've got to pay for your grave, but at least there is no subscription feeDec 18 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Happy b'day.Dec 18 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #linux #kernel 2.4.37.11 released http://bit.ly/dSVa7x "It fixes a number of minor security issues, mainly information leaks [..]"Dec 18 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith celebration over this morning, started yesterday. But thanks.Dec 18 20:38
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MinceRnot your problem at that pointDec 18 20:39
MinceRalso, s/privacy/piracy/Dec 18 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner @satipera I was reading story about how marketers were building strategies for making us watch ads on Twitter, Facebook, etcDec 18 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @joabj Ashlee Vance, Brad Stone leaving the NYT to go to Bloomberg (WWD): http://bit.ly/h7ffyB // Ashlee moving again /already/?Dec 18 20:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @EmergentCulture: Steve Biko : "The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed."Dec 18 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz You look older this month. Taller avatar no doubt :D Hippo birdie two ewe.Dec 18 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb ♺ @jrobertson: #browsing 'UK government to impose Orwellian-style surveillance' j--r.info/kg [wsws.org]Dec 18 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Oh, not saved a piece of the cake 4 the rest of us ? ;-DDec 18 20:41
twitterI'm not really following this but it looks bad http://admin.simplecdn.com/Dec 18 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some people whom I speak to insist that it would be *better* not to show people how corrupt the system is. Many beg to differ, though.Dec 18 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm heheDec 18 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I avoid cakes :-)Dec 18 20:43
txdvmy godDec 18 20:48
MinceRyes, mortal?Dec 18 20:49
txdvwhy do you keep posting so many newsDec 18 20:49
txdvwe mortals cannot read that muchDec 18 20:49
MinceRschestowitz knows the answer to that one :>Dec 18 20:49
txdvso you are not a godDec 18 20:50
txdvif you dont know the answerDec 18 20:50
MinceRi didn't say i didn't know the answerDec 18 20:50
MinceRno need to bother gods for questions mortals can answer.Dec 18 20:51
txdvgod bless wineDec 18 20:53
_Goblinschestowitz: Im on.Dec 18 20:54
_Goblinschestowitz: skype that is.Dec 18 20:54
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schestowitz_Goblin: OKDec 18 20:59
schestowitzI'm comingDec 18 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ok, going out to watch Tron 2.0. Wish me luck. / Saindo pra ver Tron 2.0. Me desejem boa sorte.Dec 18 21:01
twittersome good commentary on Comcast http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg15911.htmlDec 18 21:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] With #Brightkite leaving the location game, I now have #4sq and #gowalla on my !pre. I like that I can turn location-sharing on/off at will.Dec 18 21:13
schestowitztwitter: addedDec 18 21:17
schestowitzwe're recording shortlyDec 18 21:18
twittercool, what is you skype account anyway?Dec 18 21:20
twitterHere's another nasty little story about where ATT and others would like to take the internet.  http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/12/carriers-net-neutrality-tiers/Dec 18 21:20
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twitterand legislators looking to help them get there http://politics.slashdot.org/story/10/12/17/2045244/Republicans-Create-Rider-To-Stop-Net-Neutrality?from=rssDec 18 21:22
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twitterWorth quoting the summary =>"99BottlesOfBeerInMyF writes "Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.) submitted a rider yesterday to a bill on military and veterans' construction projects. The rider would, 'prohibit the FCC from using any appropriated funds to adopt, implement or otherwise litigate any network neutrality based rules, protocols or standards.' It is co-signed by six other Republican senators. We all knew this was coming after the laDec 18 21:23
twitterhttp://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2010/12/senator_kay_bailey_hutchison_r.htmlDec 18 21:23
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twitterhttp://news.slashdot.org/story/10/11/03/2110240/Net-Neutrality-Supporters-Hammered-In-ElectionsDec 18 21:23
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twitterAlso, several of the American Taliban have put out a fatwa on Wikileaks, saying that members should be hunted down and killed without trial.Dec 18 21:25
twitterPlain, Beck and several others have said this now.Dec 18 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Knowledge is Power: #Facebook's Exceptional Approach to Vulnerability Disclosure https://eff.org/r.v69Dec 18 21:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] WSJ report: app #privacy not just a Facebook problem, iPhone & Android phones leak data to apps too https://eff.org/r.v78Dec 18 21:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Diplomatic cables show US bullying behind Spain's proposed website disconnection law: https://eff.org/r.v67 #cablegateDec 18 22:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @mohanpram I think they're a distance behind 4sq and Gowalla. They think they'll be market leaders in group texting apps. Mistake, IMO.Dec 18 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Society for the Supression of Aunts - LOL! :DDec 18 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @ruiseabra Nah, I like it but TNG is still better....Dec 18 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[orphen/@orphen] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69NSfF5qm3E !wikileaksDec 18 22:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I am glad that we finally got some proper snow today! :)Dec 18 22:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @mohanpram I can't really see any advantage to group texts that I can't get from my !pre already. I think they're headed for the deadpool.Dec 18 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Typical Day for PFC Bradley Manning - http://bit.ly/gqpDCI by his lawyer. but why do they stop him exercising > 1 hour? (v @newsbrooke)Dec 18 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @glynmoody Presumably he went in fit. Fit body = clear mind ... 7+ months of non-exercise would leave muscles more like jello. #freebradleyDec 18 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stenographers to power: time 2 squeak up or be squashed - http://bit.ly/hnDm7f by the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comesDec 18 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Geek & Poke #Christmas tip of the year: Be precise with your wish list for Santa Claus - http://goo.gl/iImveDec 18 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @timbl Thank You for starting the World Wide Web, !W3C, and !WebStandards :)Dec 18 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @timbl Thank You! For starting the World Wide Web, !W3C, and !WebStanards :)Dec 18 22:36
schestowitz_Goblin: good showDec 18 22:37
schestowitzflowed all rightDec 18 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @timbl Thank You! For starting the World Wide Web, !W3C, and !WebStandards :)Dec 18 22:38
schestowitztwitter: did they really say that?Dec 18 22:38
schestowitzWL is an intl' teamDec 18 22:38
schestowitzSo their suggestion makes no senseDec 18 22:39
schestowitzThe new front men is from the island called Iceland :)Dec 18 22:39
schestowitzAnd IOError is the only US-based member of WL that I knowDec 18 22:39
schestowitzHe's being harassed by border control since August at leastDec 18 22:40
sebsebsebI don't like when I spell groups wrong and such ^Dec 18 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @eff: Diplomatic cables show US bullying behind Spain's proposed website disconnection law: https://eff.org/r.v67 #cablegateDec 18 22:40
sebsebsebtypos I meanDec 18 22:40
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schestowitzediting showDec 18 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @glynmoody Don't forget he signed away most of his rights when he joined the army. Any sadist can do whatever their rules allow now.Dec 18 22:48
_Goblinschestowitz: We'll record an extra bit tomorrow covering the lobbyists/trolls/etc tomorrow, then it can be either attached to the main show or offered as a separate extra.Dec 18 22:51
_Goblin*too many tomorrows.....Dec 18 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Things are getting silly. Watching a documentary about early Rome, someone suggested that the Romans should go to Ikea for their ships.Dec 18 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Anybody know of a plugin for WordPress that auto dents a blog post and links back to the dent on the WP side for commenting? !LODec 18 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @glynmoody @stonemirror As someone who once spent 2 months in a hospital bed, can say that Bradley has lost most muscle toneDec 18 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter @laurelrusswurm @glynmoody @stonemirror As someone who once spent 2 months in a hospital bed, can say that Bradley has ...Dec 18 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @webmink @glynmoody Don't forget he signed away most of his rights when he joined the army. Any sadist can do whatever their rules al ...Dec 18 23:00
schestowitz_Goblin: yesDec 18 23:01
schestowitz_Goblin: I'm uploding today's shortlyDec 18 23:01
schestowitz*oaDec 18 23:01
_Goblinschestowitz: have you got the track for my show notes?Dec 18 23:01
_Goblin*detailsDec 18 23:01
schestowitzyesDec 18 23:02
schestowitz"Today's show ends with "Paper Gown" by Caroline Herring (from SXSW 2009 Showcasing Artists)."Dec 18 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Show notes now out for !TechBytes Audiocast episode #19 – 16/12/10 http://is.gd/iYJ0j #20 out shortly, #21 tomorrowDec 18 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @webmink sure; but does America really want to avail itself of the sadist's clause with the world looking on...?Dec 18 23:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @buzzflash WikiLeaks Has the Goods on Bank of America, So Bank of America Helps to Try and Shut It Down http://bt.io/GTbJDec 18 23:06
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schestowitz_Goblin: show just over 1 hour longDec 18 23:07
schestowitz20 minutes till I start uploadDec 18 23:08
_Goblinexcellent!Dec 18 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We only released 2 !techbytes episodes this week, got nearly 10,000 non-cached downloads during the week. @laurelrusswurm hopefully a guest.Dec 18 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody @webmink sure; but does America really want to avail itself of the sadist's clause with the world looking on...?Dec 18 23:08
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schestowitz_Goblin: since you like Palin...Dec 18 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @glynmoody I suspect they still think no-one is looking.Dec 18 23:15
_Goblinlol...Dec 18 23:15
schestowitzMaybe you'll like O'Donnell too *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44mqiBrB0zIDec 18 23:15
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_Goblinthis better be good! ;)Dec 18 23:15
schestowitzhttp://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/cpu-frequency-scaling-appindicator.htmlDec 18 23:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Gr8 movie. 4 me, who watched the 1st one 28 years ago, very nice sequel #Tron2.0Dec 18 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody #Assange: Text messages show rape charges were 'set up' - http://bit.ly/dIJhAv "intercepted SMS messages between the women"Dec 18 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @webmink or that those of us who are don't count...Dec 18 23:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz ♺ @glynmoody #Assange: Text messages show rape charges were 'set up' - http://bit.ly/dIJhAv "intercepted SMS messages be ...Dec 18 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Encom became sorta Oracle and their new OS, developed with the community was going to be sold...(just like Open Solaris)Dec 18 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The girls #Assange slept with could do even worse; they could -- like Mark Zuckerberg -- call Assange "dump fuck" in IM http://is.gd/iYLH8Dec 18 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Then, Sam Flynn, our hero, hacks into Encom mainframes and leaks their Solaris-like OS to the net. Awesome sequence... :-DDec 18 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @glynmoody @stonemirror Tibetan Monks might be able to do that, but they have training that an American soldier does not.Dec 18 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @alina_mierlus: RT @codepo8: Petition @Yahoo to make Delicious open source http://act.ly/2ur RT to signDec 18 23:28
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jweyrichschestowitz: the journalist that interviewed assange in http://bit.ly/dIJhAv is like what... acephalous?Dec 18 23:29
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jweyrich"did you rape those women?" - "are you an anarchist?" lmao.Dec 18 23:30
schestowitzjweyrich: when did you stop beating up your wife? :-)Dec 18 23:30
jweyrichTV sucks.Dec 18 23:31
jweyrichlots of baseless allegations and misinformation.Dec 18 23:32
jweyrichand they don't even have the decency of formulating a good question.Dec 18 23:33
jweyrichschestowitz: do I need a lawyer to answer that? heh.Dec 18 23:34
twitterI'm back.  Yes, Sara Palin really said something along the lines of Wikileaks should be hunted down like Taliban.Dec 18 23:34
twitterOther members of the American Taliban have said similar things.Dec 18 23:34
Ender2070[18:14] <schestowitz> _Goblin: since you like Palin...Dec 18 23:34
Ender2070Palin is hot, I don`t blame himDec 18 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Julian #Assange furore deepens as new details emerge of sex crime allegations - http://bit.ly/hF7eEo what a circus #wikileaksDec 18 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US: give Liu Xiaobo a Nobel prize! Bradley? Give him a jolly waterboarding ride... #hypocrisy !wikileaksDec 18 23:35
_GoblinlolDec 18 23:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz It's easy to honor the dissidents who are a thorn in the side of the other guy's government.Dec 18 23:36
schestowitz_Goblin: uploading, shouldn't be long...Dec 18 23:37
_Goblinexcellent....Im ready to go with my shownotes.Dec 18 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 Ok, I'll be an admin of !identiverse :)Dec 18 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intel's Sandy Bridge processors have a remote kill switch - http://bit.ly/dI7Ulw in context of Web sites being shut, is this a good thing?Dec 18 23:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Julian #Assange furore deepens as new details emerge of sex crime allegations - http://bit.ly/hF7eEo what a circus #wikileaksDec 18 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] «So it's like we were rebooted?», «Yeah, I think we had kind of a Vista moment, there» #sanctuary #humour about #ms #fail :)Dec 18 23:40
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twitterAs part of the Assange smear job, someone published his "dating profile" which reads like a joke.  It is probably a forgery.Dec 18 23:40
schestowitz_Goblin: this show was recorded well audio-wiseDec 18 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Then, he says: What should be free to the people, must not be sold for one company. Gr8 Line!!!Dec 18 23:43
schestowitzI know how to replicate it, keep the same audio settingsDec 18 23:43
_GoblinPopey has issues with the sound qualityDec 18 23:43
schestowitzit should be uploaded fully in 30 minsDec 18 23:44
_Goblinand issues with content apparently....Ive taken his comments on board.Dec 18 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 I think the logo is ok for !identiverse, but it should probably say identiverse on it, rather than identi.caDec 18 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hilarious WikiLeaks Cablegate satire now live! http://bit.ly/hzmVGM !wlDec 18 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The Death Of Mono Or How To Annoy Thousands With Four Words - http://bit.ly/hLDFpQDec 18 23:46
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sebsebseb_Goblin: oh Popey is listening to techbytes now?Dec 18 23:47
sebsebsebhe has issues with content as well?Dec 18 23:47
_Goblinnot much of it apparently.....rather a rude tone...Dec 18 23:47
sebsebsebuh?Dec 18 23:47
_Goblinmind you his opinions are welcome.Dec 18 23:47
sebsebsebwhat did he say?Dec 18 23:48
_Goblinyou can read the twitter convo between us...Dec 18 23:48
sebsebseblink?Dec 18 23:48
_Goblinwhen I say rude....maybe more impolite....Dec 18 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Julian Assange furore deepens as new details emerge of sex crime allegations http://is.gd/iYOvT "Assange.. calling him "hero""Dec 18 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: Intel's Sandy Bridge processors have a remote kill switch - http://bit.ly/dI7UlwDec 18 23:48
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sebsebseb_Goblin: oh yeah got to be logged in to Twitter to see convos on it I think, well I do have an account as of quite a while ago nowDec 18 23:49
_Goblinto be fair, I didn't know much of who he was until I looked closer at his tweets.....I follow him because he was a Linux (Ubuntu) user who followed me.Dec 18 23:49
sebsebseb_Goblin: ohDec 18 23:49
sebsebsebwell yeah Ubuntu UK guyDec 18 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Hilarious WikiLeaks Cablegate satire now live! http://bit.ly/hzmVGM !wlDec 18 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Forget #OpenBSD alledged #fbi #backdoor. There's a #real one in Intel's Sandy Bridge processors! http://bit.ly/dI7Ulw (via @glynmoody)Dec 18 23:50
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sebsebseb_Goblin: really famous Ubuntu Community MemberDec 18 23:50
_GoblinIs he? Fair enough.Dec 18 23:50
sebsebseb_Goblin: Ubuntu the channels for IRC and forums though are meant to be well no swearing, and I have seen swearing and stuff like that, on identica from community members before, so that does not impress meDec 18 23:51
sebsebsebfrom one in particular and I am not going to mention the name,  I have seen what I thought, were quite silly dents reallyDec 18 23:51
_GoblinPopey didn't swear....he was merely less than friendly in his tweets....Dec 18 23:51
sebsebseband no the one I just mentioend, but not by name, not PopeyDec 18 23:51
_Goblinlike I say, I didn't know him so to me it seemed rather rude......he has the advantage since he seemed to know me.Dec 18 23:51
twitterfame is irrelevantDec 18 23:52
twitterwhat is the rudeness?Dec 18 23:52
_Goblinor tried to imply that the Techbytes show promoted TechRights.....which is insulting as I enjoy very much putting my own different viewpoint to it.Dec 18 23:52
sebsebsebI think swearing of any kind or anything like that is bad,  or useually I mean, when representing a communityDec 18 23:52
twitterTechbytes should promote Techrights and other software freedomDec 18 23:53
sebsebsebI mean jono does it a bit hear and there in his ustream for example, but I am ok with that :)Dec 18 23:53
_Goblintwitter: "fame is irrelevant" - agreedDec 18 23:53
sebsebsebJono is :)  shame in a way though, that he only represents Ubuntu, not  Desktop Linux as a wholeDec 18 23:53
sebsebsebJono the hype guy yeahDec 18 23:53
sebsebsebthe Ubuntu hype guy, yeahDec 18 23:54
_Goblinah.... Jono is a good bloke!Dec 18 23:54
_GoblinI have alot of time for him!Dec 18 23:54
twitterI'm not sure about that.Dec 18 23:54
sebsebseband paid to do it, what a great job?  altough there is much more to his job than just that, and it must be quite difficult for him at timesDec 18 23:54
sebsebseb_Goblin: Jono is professional thoughDec 18 23:55
sebsebsebI don't trust professional peopleDec 18 23:55
sebsebsebI meanDec 18 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff The Document Foundation and LibreOffice have their own group at XING: https://www.xing.com/net/documentfoundation/ !libo !tdfDec 18 23:55
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sebsebsebprofessional is an act yeahDec 18 23:55
twitteryou should not trust jono after his hatchet jobDec 18 23:55
MinceRi don't trust him since he works for canonical and canonical has become novell2.0Dec 18 23:55
sebsebsebif doing something with people,  and being paid for it as a job,  then can't really be sure how much they really care, they are getting paid at the end of the dayDec 18 23:55
twitterthere is nothing wrong with being paidDec 18 23:56
sebsebsebI mean Jono for example to an extent, but I also mean mental health services and so onDec 18 23:56
sebsebsebsupport services for people with problemsDec 18 23:56
_Goblintwitter: I take as I find.....everyone knows what Jono does for a living, it doesn't change my views on Ubuntu....In reference to hatchet job, I wonder - Why then did he give Roy 2 pages of the off the shelf magazine Linux Format?Dec 18 23:56
twitterthere is something wrong with some of the things jono has doneDec 18 23:56
sebsebseband also teachers and people like that as wellDec 18 23:56
_Goblintwitter: oh and a caption/quote on the front cover.Dec 18 23:57
sebsebsebI think the only way to be sure that someone really cares about us,  is if we are doing something with them, and well  they aren't being paid for thatDec 18 23:57
sebsebsebplus I bought up the mental health subject and so, something else for that subject,  a lot of people get a qualification in  pshycology or whatever, but still don't really properly understand whoever they are trying to help,  so hmmDec 18 23:58
twitterThe whole stated point of his hatchet job was to give Roy a chance to stand up for himself as they ruthlessly pounded him with bullshit.Dec 18 23:58
sebsebsebsome things will never learn from a course,  can only learn from expereince of having one self.Dec 18 23:59
sebsebsebanyway seems no one here is  following what I  am saying properly here, or understanding properly, so nevermind I guessDec 18 23:59
twitterwhy consider a magazine article "giving" something?Dec 18 23:59
twitterThe magazine exists to cover the gnu/linux world.Dec 18 23:59

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